I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse we're.
Cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations.
With everyday people. Cannabis companies.
Celebrities. And your mom?
Welcome to the Sash. Honestly, you know, the role is
to make sure that people feel welcomed.
And this guy's like, oh, yeah. And I'm like, well, what
verticals do you go after? And he goes verticals.
And his CEO looked over at him like, yeah, like, kind of
surprised. Was that the VP of sales or
something? Yeah, it was the VP of Sales and
I'm like, and he just went on about, well, we work with this
type of company and then like, no, no, that's great.
What type of verticals are we talking about here?
Like, do you have a direct audience or are you just
shooting it everywhere? Like a lot of companies,
everyone's our customer, so. Anybody with a dollar is my
customer. It's a very Grant Cardone.
Like if they got a dollar, they're a customer.
You just bring them on board. You're.
Selling to everybody, You're selling to nobody.
Yeah, exactly right. And that's, that's the thing
that a lot of these old salespeople have this idea of
its grind, grind, grind. And that's why salespeople are
loathed, loathed, loathed. Because they're pushy and.
You know, it's like the door to door one who came over to my
house for Windows and rang my door.
He didn't ring my doorbell. He knocked on the door, but he
did it twice and Penny kept barking.
I was like, what the fuck? So I, I look on the ring app and
I'm like, who are these two dudes?
Like what? Like they didn't look like they
were wearing it until I open the door and I see it right on his
hat. And I just, I'm like, what, you
guys? I was like out here selling shit
and they're like, ohh, no, no, no, we're we're with the
marketing team. And I was like.
OK 'cause. I've knocked doors.
That would be fucking hilarious if you did that.
Exactly what they started talking.
No, I literally I just, I literally I'd went OK and then
they kept talking and they're like, so we're we're doing this
stuff and I'm like so this home I'm actually just house sitting.
They're on like. A.
Mormon mission or something. So he's like, oh, so they're,
they're gone for a while. I'm like, yeah, like 6, maybe
seven months, I think so I don't know.
Old, old fucking windows, though.
They could totally use it. Wish they could have done
something. It'd be great.
Good day though. And turn around and walk back
inside. And it was like the shortest
sales interaction I have ever had with a salesman of going,
yeah, I know what you're here for and I know your whole story.
But like, at the end of the day, I know you don't really give a
fuck. And the last person who came
here to show me that and tell me, look at this great deal.
My dad's a general contractor. I grew up doing this shit.
You just like 3 times marked it up.
I'm just going to go buy him this other place and install him
myself. Yeah.
See, and that's the thing, like I, I, I've loved about cannabis.
And I mean, I've told that to door to door salespeople.
I'm like, you smoke weed and I'm like, I smoke weed.
They go bull. I mean I've tried it a few
times. I'm like, you should smoke more
weed. Matter of fact, you should smoke
it before you go out and sell. And the guy's like why?
And I'm like, because dude, when you shit like this last guy,
like I, I ruined his day. I took a full 40 minutes of his
time. I didn't buy either.
I just took his time because he was trying to take my time.
And I'm like. You're like, fuck it.
I'm just like. Oh dude, I was, I was on an
edible and I've been puffing up my pen and I was playing.
I redownloaded Insurgency because I needed some popcorn.
Yeah. And so I was playing that and I
was bad. I was really bad.
I was like at the bottom of the. But it took me like about an
hour, and then I was at the top again.
I was like, it was all like. Younger me totally would have
done that to the salespeople and just fuck with them for hours
like because I love doing that shit to people who are like they
have the dumbest stuff like. When I throw a pattern like this
guy, he's like, he's like, hey, how's it going?
He's like, my name is blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, I don't fucking care. Like you just get to the point
and he just goes right into it. But I am feeling very good.
So I'm just smiling and I'm, I am so chink eyed that I can't
even see. Like I am smiling.
Like right now I'm smiling and everything's like blurry.
Yeah, that's how much I was smiling.
I barely could make out this guy's face.
And he's like, oh, yeah, you know, we go around, we're
working with your neighbors. Gay.
Yeah. And I just said I was like, gay.
And he goes and I'm like, what else you got?
He goes and I'm like, no, dude, look, I I said, look, I'm a, I'm
a communication and behavioral expert.
I said I, I just really don't like, you're trying to create
this relationship with me right now.
I don't know who the fuck you are.
And the kid goes, oh, fair enough, fair enough.
I'm like, don't, don't say fair enough.
You haven't offered me anything. So there's no fair, I said just
can I help you out here? I'm so high and I'm like, I am
in like one of one of the one of the traits where I am out of
balance is giving unsolicited advice.
So I'm really, really, really careful on it now.
So I I don't give advice right away and I try to listen more
instead of just because of my ADHD.
I go like, that's why I talk over sometimes.
It's very easy to do. Oh yeah.
I actually had to think about that yesterday and I working
with my dad and intentionally in the morning.
I was like I told myself I was like, Brandon, you need to
remember the pause today, pause in my responses, pause in my
fight because but I, I didn't I didn't respond like it got
heated for a second and I said things that I didn't have that
pause. And so you know I but at the
same time. It's hard dude, because it's.
Like hard working with my dad sometimes.
But it's hard working with your parent.
Period. Yeah, even talking to him.
But it's it's we have because it's four days a week, most
days, most weeks. And for five to 9 hours a day,
we have lots of conversations and.
I think it kind of is it exhausting sometimes?
Sometimes we have because we have very different beliefs on
of course, on almost everything, but at the same time a lot of
similarities. And I liked that because, and
that was what I tried to find was instead of retaliating or
going saying this, it was like I would my response was like my
dad went because I told him that I wasn't proud to be American.
I wasn't proud to be here. He was like, you sound like you
hate your country. I'm like, I sound like I'm
disappointed in my country. And I think if our founding
fathers woke up, they'd roll over in their grave and go, what
the fuck? And so, and I'm like, and that's
not just Trump. That's everything getting here.
I think everything they'd go, what the fuck?
And so and he's like, well, if your generation was running, I
don't think I'd want to live in this country.
And I'm like, well, your your generation is and I don't think
I do. And and I'm like, and what do
you think is so bad or wrong about my or different about my
beliefs and yours? And I was like, and he's like,
what's your belief on freedom? And I told him and he told me
his and I'm like we have the exact same fucking belief.
Give your answer. And everything he kept saying
everything he mentioned, I'm like dad, we share the same
belief. Every position he brought up,
I'm like, we share that belief. I don't argue with that.
I think that's correct. Like and so everything that he
was thinking like, whoa, that. And I'm like, so here you are
accusing, not you, but him accusing of like, Hey, we, you
know, you would be such a terrible your generation would
fuck things up, do this. But yet you also told me we have
almost the exact same beliefs and things that we value and
respect and look for. So what the fuck?
Well, and a lot of it is just because of, of programming that
they have built themselves. It's not necessarily what was
forced on them, it's what they accepted.
And the reason why I believe that is that your dad grew up
during an era of a lot of free thinking.
And that actually meant either you followed a very strict
guideline, which is the culture he grew up in.
If we think about it, the the culture your dad grew up in Utah
in was predominantly white racist middle America.
Oh yeah. But The thing is.
And I, well, I don't know. I don't know if did the racism
come out of hatred. Or no, it's just it came out of
different. That's all it.
It was like even Grandpa, remember when Grandpa, like, I
mean, before he died, he was talking about like he saw a
black guy in Provo or something. He goes and then I saw one of
them Negroes and and it's just like, you know, I could tell if
if I said something like that completely in that context of
just saying, oh, I saw a black guy over there.
Yeah, that would be. It's seen as hateful because
it's been built as hateful. But for them it the kids learned
it not because it was hateful. It's just what you said.
Yeah, well, and that's what I thought about because my dad was
like, you think I'm racist? You think I'm this?
I'm like, I've never stated that once, actually.
Where are you getting that? I've actually never said that to
you. Ever.
No, you have beliefs and your beliefs are are I, I, what was
it? There was a really beautiful
way. I heard somebody say it.
I, it was Simon Sinek. That was such a great episode.
You got to, I got to send that to you.
It actually inspired me to create behavioral fusion like
'cause he was talking about what's the one thing right now
we have, we have coaches for everything, business coaches,
life coaches, talent coaches, like anything you can think of
sports to interpersonal relationships, right?
It's. Just a way to get better.
You know, we don't have a coaches for how do I up your ass
how to make friends and you know, one of the biggest
requests that he would hear when he would go speaking and he was
talking to this other guy runs a diary of CEO podcast and a
Bartlett, Stephen Bartlett and Stephen Bartlett young guy.
He got he became a millionaire by 25 and beat when he was 20.
He wasn't anywhere close to that.
So he just, he just had this work ethic and and figured out a
niche and it worked really well. And now his business is diary of
CEO podcast. And it's cool.
But when Simon Sinek was on there, he pointed out a lot of
different things that we do and is that we have focused on
efficiency, we have focused on clarity of message and we're
getting into story. But the one thing that we're not
doing is connecting. We are not connecting.
We are, we are trying to automate everything, including
our interactions relationally, Yeah.
So when that happens, we don't know how to make a genuine
friend. And he has gone through this
process of he has a lot of friends in the Special Forces
community you talked about. And one of the things which he
talked about, which he was like, oh, it's this moment.
And he's like, it's, it's almost like he's revealing it as
prophetic, which is funny because I know a lot of people,
including myself, used to think this because this is when I
started doing it. He's like, he's like everything
changed. You ever hear his voice?
It's really weird. He's from, he's been born and
raised here in the United States, has English accent every
once in a while. Like it's very strange.
I used to, oddly, it would come out and people would go, where
are you from? And I'm like Provo.
Yeah, dude. Well, I because I did so many
accents and I used to do it a lot.
It would I. Think that's what it is?
It is. It's just fucking around with it
and it kind of gets into your verbiage and.
I think that's the problem is like it's so much in mind
because it's been something I did so much because I liked how
it sounded. I love accents.
They're so but at the same time like it's been something I've
done for so long that like I will say something, I'm like,
fuck, I hope that didn't sound racist.
Like it wasn't intended as it. It's just like it comes out and
I'm like, like, even sometimes when we play games and I say
something in like a Hispanic accent, I'm like, shit, I hope
Jesse doesn't. Oh, I don't care about that.
And I never have because I mean, you know, my wife has has
pointed it out. They're like, you know, I, I
grew up with this like weird pride in being Mexican because
my dad's Mexican. No, like this is the thing.
I, I, I see things very much like that, where I love what you
said earlier and I'll get back to Simon Sinek, but what you
said earlier was awesome, dude. And, and if anything, your
father should have been proud of you if he truly knew what it was
to be an American. And it's the fact that you said
what you said, I'm not proud to be an American.
Good for you because you don't have to go along with everything
because your idea of being an American is different from other
people And, and you have a, a, a, a lot of similar thinking
people going. I, I don't like it either
anymore. My idea of what America should
be is not what it should be. And that's what the beauty is,
is that now I look at it not as one against another.
It's just ways to be able to learn a perspective.
I, I try to look at, at interactions like that as I want
to learn your perspective. I get excited if I've learned a
lot and I, I wanna, you know, I've learned a lot from both
sides and I know how they're both trying to manipulate and
it's, it's, it's funny. That's why you.
There was a picture of a senator who had I guess covered her face
and 'cause it wasn't supposed to be a photo op, it was just
supposed to be like a Senate meeting or something.
And she covered her face when someone tried to take a photo.
And then it was all the comments from both sides, left and right
of just like shitting all over her and that.
And it was like, she literally just, and it's like, this is the
extremism of what we share versus like, did you want your
picture taken maybe that day? Like, is there a time that
you're like, fuck, I don't want this camera in my face, Get out
of here. Like fuck off you.
You know, one of the funniest conspiracy theories I love is
that China, China. China's been purposely
corrupting our youth. They're getting into social
media. They are purposely trying to
destroy society. No, dude, we were.
We're Americans. We'll fuck it up on our own.
Yeah, but I mean, even that whistleblower, you found out
from Facebook where it was allowed, they put in and.
I know, but The thing is, is like people.
But yeah, no, we will fuck it up all on.
Our oh dude, well you think about the popular.
I mean, yes, if you introduce that, but it is a valid point.
It shows how soft minded many of us can be because a our own
opinion, we just accept opinions of others.
And that's kind of like dovetails right back into what I
was saying with Simon Sinek. He's like when this Navy SEAL
friend of his told him one day he goes, I love you, man.
And he was like, wow. And he he treats the word
brother as sacred as the word is love.
He's like, he's like a lot of people say, you know, they'll
call him brother. Yeah.
I truly, I truly feel that towards people.
If I have a connection, I'll call him brother.
If I don't like him, I was like a your name.
Yeah. Oh, Steve.
OK. You're all about the business
fuck head. And then I'm like, I don't want
to talk to that guy anymore. He's just got a bad vibe.
But it is, it's this thing that we have forgotten.
He's like nobody knows how to make friends anymore.
Stephen Bartle will be there talking in front of 50,000
people and in the front row is a bunch of young entrepreneurs and
they come up to him. They don't ask him how did I
make money? But what did you do first in
your business? They go, how do I make a friend?
How do I make friends? And he goes and that's just not
sometimes. That's all the time because they
see that I'm charismatic and I'm on stage and I'm talking to them
because I'm trying to inspire them to do more because I have
done a lot. He's like, so I know that I'm
going to hit one of those guys and they're going to be
inspired, but. Do you think it's a learn trait
that those kids and all of our kids have just learned to be so
disconnected because instead of truly connecting with them, we
just stuck them in front of something?
I don't think it was even. We stuck them in front of
something. You got to think about it on the
on the smallest scale. They were born with this in
their hands when we barely got it into ours.
Yeah. So we didn't know what it was
going to be like. Everything else we had no idea.
And and like I'm. Just asking if you not that it
was intentional. No, just if you think that's
truly what caused this massive disconnect.
Well, we, we've learned to be able to communicate with symbols
and with dry tone and when we interact with voice and with a
lot of our interactions are voice and tone and the words we
use. That's the like there's my
theory on it is that the communication pie, it's a lot
of, it's physical and then a lot.
Of it's tonality and yeah. But then it's like 7% is words.
Yeah, my idea is actually on the reverse now.
Because our world is so digitally connected now, I can't
read your body language now. I can't understand what you may
be communicating with the words you're using in the.
Tone definitely can't. No, but they're not taught
right. That's it.
They're just. Not taught well because it's
forgot. Because why these kids grew up
with this in their hands? Is it our fault?
I feel like I'm about to piss. Myself Oh go go go dude, you can
always put just. Yeah, that makes.
Sense I'm surprised I don't have to go.
My medications rock. I put a bunch of those in there.
You're gonna have a good time. Oh, dude, he's got some other
ones too. He he does one from what's it
called? Oh, why can't I remember?
I all of a sudden I wanted to say Jamericoi and I'm like,
nobody listens to Jamericoi. Jamericoi doesn't listen to
Jamericoi. I listen to Jameric.
Oh my gosh, this is hilarious. I haven't liked songs.
Oh no, no, I mean, I don't. I like the one song where he had
that music video where the floor is moving.
I've never seen their music videos.
Dude I grew up on music videos, that's what's sad I did.
Too, but in like early 2000s so most of those weren't on.
I, I was watching that as soon as my parents were, they bought
cable and I was like 9. Oh, damn.
And so it was so cool, man, because that was, my mom was
really into music. So it was my dad.
And so it was great, dude. I mean, I, that was the one
thing I'd love about my childhood.
I got a very rich music library from both of my parents.
Like stuff that I appreciate that a lot of kids love now.
Like they just had a really wide variety of it, OK.
Yeah, my dad was like into it was called New Age music, right?
Like Kataro. And so the guys in the IT is
this Japanese dude before it was all synthesized, it was like he
had to create those instruments to make those sounds.
And he, all he had was like keyboards, you know?
And he would create that. I mean, even back in the day,
like the complex music that you hear from artists today can be
all mixed with software. But back then, they had, like,
layers of keyboards that all had different settings.
Yeah. And then they started getting
better. And they're like, all in one.
But honestly, it would be better to have more.
Yeah. Because then you don't have to
push a button. You're just going Samba.
Right. Right.
And the Canon, whatever. My my parents had this Klava
Nova one by Yamaha that had it could do so much that Steph's
dad used to come over and compose on it because it would
write into the computer for you. Oh, I remember.
And like get all the notes of what you're playing and stuff so
you could transpose it, not have to worry about any shit.
It was so fantastic. Yeah, I never got why he didn't,
but it's kind of like the same with your brother Curtis.
Oh. He was amazing.
He's amazing and he does not play in front of anybody ever.
No, and he's got. He can't even ask him he.
Has that one. And I asked him, I was like, oh,
do you use it? Like, can I borrow it?
And he he was like, oh, yeah, I play it all the time.
I've never heard you or seen you play in 20 years.
Yeah, it it to me, it's like the same with with my father-in-law,
man. It's there's some pain attached
to that and it's their own secret little hell.
Oh yeah, I mean I have a love hate relationship with piano
still. Like, because there was 10 years
of my life that I had to take well.
Well, I gotta say I wanted. To take lessons at the beginning
right then. But you didn't want to play what
you were told to play. No, no I didn't.
I always transposed everything to a sharp or minor, like I was
always changing the keys, the tunes.
Like I was always like, Oh yeah, I'm going to play this in F#,
let's play it down here. I'm going to play this one.
And I would play it in every different key because I just
like the different sound. Oh yeah, you get loud music.
Yeah. And I get bored real fast.
Did your parents, did your mom like you to play hymns?
Oh, yeah, all the time. And as we got older in church,
it was like, oh, well, you can play in priesthood every week.
Oh, you can do this. And it's like, fuck, I don't
want to learn more hymns. I don't want to play more of
this. I want to play like I'd rather
play other types of music. And so I loved finally, when it
was like we moved across town and we knew no one up there,
they didn't want to drive me across town.
So I got to get out of piano lessons at like 14.
So you're still good, right? You can learn.
Oh, I can learn. I can read like, it takes me a
bit. Can you do tabs?
I've never done tabs with piano, I've only done sheet music.
The coolest thing that like that we never created.
I almost thought you said 10 years of therapy.
I'm like, you probably need. Oh, God, I wish.
But you know, it's it. I I I feel the same way.
That's one of the things like it was really hard for me because
I've been a martial artist since I was just a kid, little kid.
And it is a big part of my identity because it's something
that I've it's now effortless and it's there.
I've got a wealth of knowledge and I poured out a lot of the
bullshit and it it just feels whole to me.
Yeah. But I really wanted that for my
kids and we tried it once. I'm like, no, I'm not going to
train them because they've seen how I train other people and I'm
not nice. Well, I at least I wasn't nice.
I I was trained hard. I didn't have pads.
Yeah, pads were get tougher, but it was like old school karate
and Kung Fu dudes. Like they just beat the shit out
of you. Mainly I think it's because they
like beating kids. Probably.
Well, it's it was a different era.
It was like the IT was the era of like, slap the shit out of
your kids. Well, and that's why the parents
were like, yeah, yeah, you're a little shit.
Fucking go over there to let somebody else beat you.
And I don't get in trouble for it.
Like, I mean, you know, my parents, I cut, I come home and
bruises everywhere, bruises all over my body and my mom's like,
this is what you like. I'm like, I love it.
And she's like, cool. But it, it was I wanted that for
my kids and because we started them in Taekwondo and my wife
goes, I don't want them learning how to fucking dance.
Like I love her so much. And I'm like, you're right.
And we pulled them right out and they hated it.
And after that, like, every once in a while, like, I'll have
people from back in the day that I used to train.
It's been a long time since I coached and trained.
And I'll have people from back in the day going, hey, man, it's
awesome to see you and go, can we get together?
And I've got some ideas. I'm still training.
And it all comes back and I'm playing with them.
Yeah. And I'm like, and my kids see it
and they go, wow, I want to learn that.
Do you have other hobbies from 20-30 years ago that you still
do? No, man, because that's another
thing too. Like I, I was, I mean, as much
as I'm grateful for learning martial arts at a young age and,
and being as fluent as I am in, in that type of stuff and
confident, I didn't really get to do anything else other than
like my parents said, yeah, play sport, play Little League.
And I hated it because I wasn't good.
Did you not do any other one or just Little League?
I did soccer. I sucked at soccer because
again, the thing was is I had parents trying to tell me how to
do better at it. My dad grew up playing soccer.
My dad was always like, he was always at my games, but I swear
he was always the coach, like coaching from the side, like,
hey, do that. And like, I mean, I always
looked up to my dad. You.
Know, but that's good. Just I I don't think that is a
bad thing because it was like you were you were learning
something about it. The difference was is that my
parents put me in it because they just felt like I needed to
do something. I think mine did too, because we
had such a list of everything to do.
And then I did basketball for a while.
I did. I was always doing something.
What I, I mean, in part of it, I made friends that I still talk
to to this day playing baseball. Like I sucked when I, when I was
in 7th grade, I played, I sucked.
They stick me in right field. They're like, yeah, but that
kid, nobody hits the ball out there.
Fucking put them out there. And then when I came up to bat,
everybody was pissed and I'd fucking strike out or I wouldn't
swing. And I started trying to learn
how to bunt because I couldn't hit the fucking ball.
Well, I got into Kung Fu at the end of the baseball season and I
had this great teacher that he had created this audio tapes and
cassette tapes. And you take this cassette tape
and he had all of this composed music that he had done through
instruments and synthesizers and it was really cool.
But he put in there like he was ahead of his time.
He put in subliminal messages in both of them.
One was called internal power and one was called fighting
power and I'm so mad. I found it recently that there
is available. It's 40 bucks for the audio
file. So I'm like, I'm I'm saving up
for that on the site. I mean that's hard to convince
my I mean, hey, it's a music thing and it's 40 bucks and she
go, what is it for? It's for Kung Fu.
She get the fuck out of here, right.
But I mean, I'm, I'm gonna put like Venmo money, little dollars
on the side. We'll get it.
Right. I'm gonna get it later.
But it it was so incredible. Like after you would do Kung Fu,
they would always play it in their internal power.
And if you listen to it with your cassette tape and I would
put it high volume at night and I'd push it there because it had
this like leaflet inside and it had a bulleted list of all of
the sayings. It was going to tell you.
There was 98 sayings in there to help you with inner calm, all
that and it's subliminal. And truly it would put you in a
meditative state while you were training and it it dulled the
pain. It was weird.
It was that. But then fighting power.
He's like only listen to it once a week so don't tell ADDHD kids
that. And so when do I listen to it
all the time, non-stop. That's in my cassette player all
the time. And you can hear the subliminal
messages more clearly. And it's talking about
attacking, looking for the angles, like all of these things
that he wants you thinking about when you're fighting somebody.
And I used to play at baseball. So 8th grade comes around and
I'm like, I'm getting better. 9th grade shit, dude, I was
crushing that ball. I was taking the cover off that
thing. I was running faster.
I was catching faster. I see you played it for years
then. Oh, yeah, I love baseball at
that point, but my parents, like, that was the only thing.
And then after that, like, I mean, we didn't have a lot of
money at the time. And they're like, oh, do we want
you to play for the All Stars and da, da, da, that's 'cause
they like my name. Angeles.
That's dope. They were like, oh, that's a
gust, that's a gust. That's a big dude.
Truly. Like you got Jesse Angeles
coming up #13 Right. I mean, that sounds like a
baseball player name. But my parents are like, no, no,
no, we're going to put all the money into.
And this is the way I felt. I'm sure that's not the way it
was. But they put everything into my
sister. She played accelerated softball,
but she didn't, she couldn't even play for the the high
school because she was way higher level.
She's like those girls that that you see on ESPN, yeah, where
they do that super fast under pitch, like you're a slap and
that ball. Holy shit.
And she was a catcher and she did so well, dude.
Like she, she ruined her hand for the rest of her life.
She was catching fast balls like that.
There ain't no fucking like company softball pitch shit.
This is like, yeah, this is terrifying.
Crazy. You watch these girls play like
I was like at a young age, I'm like, I have to take
testosterone just. Yeah, you're like, I feel like
my balls are smaller just watching this.
Totally. I'm I'm going backwards in time
and you know, why is the hair going away like it's going in
I'm. Still there, right?
But but dude, like, they put everything into that.
And the only thing I could do, my dad was like, well, you've
always done martial arts. So when I asked to go back into
martial arts again after leaving it for a couple of years, he's
like, absolutely. And they put me in there and but
it's got to be cheap. So I had to learn, negotiate
with my Kung Fu teacher telling him what I can do and clean the
place if if needs be I will do whatever it need to.
I got a paper route to pay for it.
I remember having a paper route. Dude, kids.
Need papers dude. That's the one thing I missed
too, is that there's something about the commitment of.
Getting up at the butt crack of dawn wrapping and getting like
these stacks. Of in the fall time where it's
fucking frosty. Outside winter time and you're
like, it's fucking cold. Did you get one of those cool
bags? God, we did have those, and we,
my dad made them. Oh my God, that's cool.
You know that old? Oh no, Oh no, no, no.
Great. They were 'cause those bags you
had, they were like canvas. Yeah, they were sturdy as fuck.
You can put them on your bike and I.
Had these cotton bags that were stitched together like fucking
Frankenstein and then they'd sling him over my shoulders and
I'm holding him and dude, it's like pulling me forward.
Like I'm like running just to keep myself.
From the weight on it and throwing at the same time like.
Oh dude, my dad used to get mad when we 'cause we used to do it
as a family, 'cause we were, we were really poor at the time.
And we did. Too, we did a paper route and we
did so many paper. Route waking up at 5:00 AM.
In the van, we took the van because it was like, well, and
they would just drive and we would be running down both sides
and we'd have kids just throwing up.
And I'm like, Oh my God. Like I I forgot that was a
thing. Oh, dude, my parents were like,
after we get paid, they give us like $5.
Is it We didn't make a lot of money and you don't.
But that's the thing I miss is that we don't have those
opportunities for kids to be able to interact and make
friends. My, I have, I, I, I wrote this
little book about men trying to be able to interact.
I, I hear that all the time. Men say, I don't know what to
say to other people. I don't know how to make
friends. I don't know how to talk to
women. And they make it more
complicated because, well, we don't have examples anymore.
We grew up with sitcoms and, and funny movies and they kind of
helped you out in some ways. You, you learned how to read
facial expressions and tone and, but it was subconscious, but you
were learning it. Now what do we get?
We get filtered shit to buy more stuff, not to fit an agenda.
It's to buy more stuff. Yeah, and not just, it's just.
Consumerism. Yeah.
And I'm like, it's terrible because like we have less
interaction everywhere we go, even stores.
How many times do we choose to go through the self checkout
versus the person who has no one, no one waiting?
Because it's like, Hey, I would rather not have to talk to some
other person and say, how's it like, 'cause they're like, well,
I, I don't give a shit. I don't care about that person.
Well, why? Why couldn't you just make a
real conversation for like a couple minutes?
No, I have no. It's it's hard because they
don't know how. They don't know how and.
They're not comfortable doing it.
So it's like, well, I'd rather go through this robot and beep,
beep, beep versus having conversation I don't know how to
have and feeling uncomfortable this whole time.
Well, and I get it because I mean, you know, there are so
many different things that we judge ourselves before we go
over and interact with somebody instead of just going over there
and just, you know, like, honestly, like a great movie to
be able to break the ice and not give a shit about people.
Go watch Dumb and Dumber and you know, it's like skis, huh?
Are they yours? Yeah, both of them, you know, or
big gulps, huh? Yeah, All right.
Like or the best part when he's leaving the bar and he sees that
thing about the mood landing, he goes no way and then he runs
out. Hey everybody, we lighted on the
moon, right? That is so funny, dude.
Like, you know, to have that kind of like mind numbing
confidence is is needed because you start seeing it like like
that, that weird interviews you see those young guys doing.
They're not good looking by any means.
They're not like these stunning looking kids that are built and
stuff that we grew up learning that women want brawny and
muscular and Oh yeah and bare chested.
That gave me this great confidence, being this twink of
a guy. He's really small.
And I'm like, yeah. And it made me obsessed about
getting bigger because that's what I thought it was supposed
to be. But when you see people in like
take like Mel Gibson, he's not a big dude, but women loved him
because it went in the early years, you know, because he he
fit a character in their mind. And that's what women would
learn about. What do I want?
Do I want that kind of relationship?
Do I want that kind of person? Because these things were
written as a perspective of seeing a life outside of our
own. Now it sounds like, well, we
also want to kind of change your opinion to buy more of our shit.
Like it's all corporatized even though it feels like it's
supposed to be like, hey, that's not right.
It's all corporatized. Nobody gives a fuck about your
race, your gender in the corporate world.
All they care about is are you going to keep spending money
with me? How do I appeal to that part
that makes you want to spend more?
How do I turn you into a raving fan?
How do I turn you into a lunatic?
How do I get you on this subscription where you're here
every single month? Yeah.
How do I take money from you every month?
Like there's a funny commercial where.
Like Amazon, How many times can I get you to come to Amazon and
go like, oh, I need this, I need this, I need this?
Well not only that but like Amazon on prime now dude you
have to pay more even though this is in your contract.
You have to pay more to get no ads.
Now Hulu you have to pay more to get no ads.
Every single one of these mother fuckers.
Because before dude, even early when I I saw this thing about
Netflix, they used to tell you to share your password.
Because they wanted more people on their platform.
Yeah, yeah, Yep. And then they're so big, they're
like, no, fuck you guys come. On dude, we need that.
And not only that, we're going to increase our our price
because it's so hard to be us. So hard.
It's really rough. I can't get my gold plated, you
know. Bentley of this color because
the other 36 of them are like. You're, you know you know when
you've arrived, Brandon, when you can have a custom made
handmade platinum with a 28 carat diamond right in the
middle of it butt plug, that's when you know you've arrived.
I've not arrived, have you? I haven't, I even got into the
butt plug part, but I know if I get to a certain income they
have to start looking into it, Yeah.
What is the income for entering that butt plug ratio?
Let us. Know and then if you get to
there, you also have the one that lights up.
Yeah, of course. Have you ever seen those videos
of those girls walking around and the and their butts like,
oh, there was. Emily sent me something that was
a dude and he was made like doing some.
Weird. Yeah.
And then he jumps. And it like glows like oh wow.
Like I don't under I I mean, I guess in the moment, but if that
I don't know. That's not a fashion thing.
I'm like shoes watch butt plug. All right, I'm ready to go,
honey. Right.
Oh, it's not in like, all right, we're good to go.
Got to spit on it. Oh, man, I, I don't know, I, I
love your, your question like that.
And I've thought about it a lot. You know, you've said it a lot
and it's like, you know, it's because we, we, we babysit these
kids with these devices. But I've looked at it going,
well, they were raised with it. So it's not necessarily it's
and, and a lot of people have tried to keep it out of their
kids hands. Like, you know, Gab wireless, a
company here in Utah, they're known a lot of places.
They have a really dumbed down phone that your kid will use for
about two months and then get mad at you and leave it in the
drawer because it's super limited.
You can't do anything on it. And they go, why don't we just
get a flip phone? Well, Brandon said that with his
I'm just going to get a flip phone and then you're going to
get a really nice camera and then you're going to get an MP3
player if they sell those. Or you'll just have like an old
iPhone or something you bring with you to do stuff anyway.
And then you're like, well, you know, this is for my music and
my camera. OK, well then you're carrying
two phones around. Like I don't want to carry more
shit around. Yeah, I always thought that was
weird, like when somebody in business would have like, I also
got 3 phones. Jeez.
I'm like, what's that for? Well, that's my wife, that's for
the business, and this is my side business.
Oh my gosh. Hello I don't want to have.
To deal with that shit. Hello.
Yeah, it's, it's dumb. It's so dumb.
I don't know, just get one phone guys, One phone and TuneIn next
week. Yeah, and sign up for the
special T-Mobile plan. Just put cannabis.
Just kidding me. Funny as shit.
Somebody's over there. Check out going this is not
working. This code is not working.
What the hell? What's wrong with your code?
Dude we should do that. We should create this last
thing. We should create a fake
advertisement like this other other guy does.
He likes to spoof somebody and then put like, he's that company
talking for. Them.
So he's done that for like KFC and stuff like that and he'll
defend it and somebody goes, KFC is fucking trash.
And he'd be like, hey, that's my family business.
And it says official KFC. It's so funny, dude.
He's got so much shit because I'll take.
It down. Probably, but that's exactly
what it's like. Dude, that would be fun to do.
We should do that. Just get online and act like
that. I don't appreciate you saying
that about Hershey's. Right, it doesn't give you the
squirts. Alright guys, take care.