1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,000 I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse we're. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,040 Cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations with 3 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:09,880 everyday. People. 4 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:12,080 Cannabis companies. Celebrities. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,280 And your mom? Welcome to the Sash. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,320 Hey, welcome to the Sash. You know, we got, I think lately 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,800 we've been getting more comments, more just responses 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,400 and stuff and like real engagement and we love you guys. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,160 We truly appreciate that. You know, every day when we 10 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:35,640 record, when we show up, it's for you guys. 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,920 And sometimes it definitely doesn't feel like that because 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,400 we kind of get overwhelmed in life sometimes and didn't have 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,280 the plan for that week ahead of time. 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,480 So we have been working on creating a much better structure 15 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:52,960 so that you guys don't get that. And so today we kind of have, I 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,880 don't know, I, I liked where we were just talking before. 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,080 It made me laugh because I was remembering, you know, that our 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,800 show has kind of grown through our comments and change because 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,360 like we started with, we had background music throughout our 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,400 entire show. Tripping everybody out. 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,160 Because we're like, Oh my God, I was just really chill vibes. 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,960 Like it's just like a chill hangout sesh. 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,280 And then just so many of the comments were like, am I am I 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,360 high? Is is there? 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,760 You think about it, dude, like if you went and hung out with 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,640 this one guy and he's always smoking weed and you're like, 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,200 yeah, but he only has one song playing the entire. 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,600 Time. God, it would be so. 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Bad. That's going to be fucking 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:29,400 weird. Yeah. 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,760 And so it was just like, oh, man, we didn't realize that at 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,840 first because it was this, oh, this sounds cool. 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,440 We like it. It's a it's a vibe. 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,520 And some people are like, oh, that's chill. 35 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,680 And other people are like, I can't understand what you're 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,000 saying. And our mic audio wasn't the 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,160 best. And you know a. 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,960 Lot's changed, a lot has changed, but it's been good. 39 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:50,120 And, and Speaking of, I, I'm excited about today's 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,200 conversation because you know, brand, we, we do, we do 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,200 research, we think about things that, you know, possibly would 42 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,040 incite some type of thought provocating, you know, 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,360 conversations possibly amongst you guys. 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,040 So Brandon had this idea and I was like, man, you, you need to 45 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,440 introduce it, man. So we're going to talk today. 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,840 It's called TikTok therapy, or I guess you could say social media 47 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,000 therapy, but I would guess more leaning TikTok therapy and how 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,240 how it's gone. Like is it more helpful or is it 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,200 more misguided? Because we've seen a really 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,640 large emerging trend of like mental health and mental mental 51 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,600 Wellness. Like everyone's speaking on all 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,640 of these things. And like there's a broad 53 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:35,400 emergence of that versus, well, I mean go back how many years 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,160 and it was probably only expert panels or you know, specific 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,440 experts in that field that would talk at conferences or. 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,440 Or perceived experts. You know. 57 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,840 If you could, if you could be intelligent in your speech, 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,800 persuasive with your language and charismatic with your 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 actions, people would would gravitate towards you. 60 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,200 That's why Tony Robbins and stuff, but not even life 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,680 coaches. And I want to get into those 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,520 too, because you know, I, I, I'm and, and before we get in there, 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,200 like what, what is your opinion on that like overall right now 64 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,960 before we get started? Life coaches. 65 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,600 No on on TikTok therapy the concept. 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,680 I think that that's in a world that we live in where I feel 67 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,840 there's so much disconnect and like from humans and there is a 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,600 lot of need for like real therapy, finding people to talk 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,240 to, stuff like that. I think there is great benefit, 70 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,440 but I think there's a lot of misdirection, a lot of 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,840 misguidance, a lot of, hey, well, your algorithm just pushes 72 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,280 this because you watch this. So yes, is there insight? 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,400 It's it's like chat, you know, can you gain tools or insights 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,400 or use it as a tool? 100% Could it be a piece of shit 75 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,320 and spit out garbage in that all day long? 76 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:52,040 Absolutely. 100% so it's, you know, for someone where maybe 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,040 they've never considered therapy or maybe they've never even 78 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,360 thought about some of these issues, maybe it sparks a 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,960 curiosity or conversation in their head or with a friend or a 80 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,240 loved one or even that interest of, hey, maybe I should talk to 81 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,800 someone or maybe I do need to get help. 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,360 Or like, I think there's so much value in that. 83 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,920 And maybe there, there are, of course there are, there's always 84 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,880 the good and the bad. So that there's going to be a 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,160 few people out there who are brilliant people who are great 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,680 therapists, who have amazing insights and maybe they take 87 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,640 some of their time and they put it on Tiktok. 88 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:28,960 Is that going to be every single person? 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,040 Is that going to be every single video? 90 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:35,480 I would be really highly doubtful because even in the 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,640 stuff that it was looking at, it said, the one that kind of threw 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,280 me out, it said a study of 500 Tiktok mental health videos 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,920 found that 83.7% of those were misleading and only 9% of the 94 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,960 videos were from qualified medical or professionals in that 95 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,880 field or area of expertise. Now, I mean, would I be a 96 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,440 qualified professional in a cannabis field? 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,400 I, I don't consider myself that. I don't know if any real person 98 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,040 in that field would either. So in that form where we put out 99 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,080 cannabis content, would we be considered in that same 100 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,280 classification or like what you know, so I'm there is a form of 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,600 infotainment that can be valuable? 102 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Which is what this is. Yeah. 103 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,320 And that that might even lead within the therapy or mental 104 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,960 health realms, you know, that there is a form of infotainment 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,840 that is valuable, but it's the how much of our stuff do we 106 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,880 check? You know, how much, how much of 107 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,240 the videos or things that we watch or hear or the data we 108 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,720 learn? Do we do we check? 109 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,600 Do we try and go even at all go? Is this credible? 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,640 Is this a source? Is there is there another 111 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,560 source? Is there? 112 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,560 You know, what's the what's the second click down on Google? 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,800 What's the third click down? What's the fourth click down? 114 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,480 What what is second page row 3 give you? 115 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Like how much do we go into it on our curiosity is versus just 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,280 like, well, I heard this in the statistic and then we perpetuate 117 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:06,400 that or share it and, you know, then it's, it's this whole thing 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,040 of TikTok mental health, you know, and what is the algorithm 119 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,720 showing you? Because what was the last thing 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,120 that you saw? Yeah, I agree. 121 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,520 I agree. What is your perspective on? 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,560 I appreciate you sharing that because I you know, I feel that 123 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,040 very much this very, very similar to what you had just 124 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,800 stated. On top of that, what I see it 125 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,560 being useful for is hacks tips. Those are good. 126 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Those are great. When going into self diagnosis, 127 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,000 that can be a big issue for me. Anything like one of the things 128 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,240 that pops up in my mind that makes me very hesitant on 129 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,600 anybody seek it. It should be the first point of 130 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,120 contact, but unfortunately, there's multiple contact points. 131 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,880 And it's really hard, especially for a mind that is in pain, a 132 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,640 mind that is confused. You are having difficulties with 133 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,720 identity. That's going to be something 134 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,920 that needs to go in difficult. Now, am I saying that all 135 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,640 therapists are created equal? Hell, no. 136 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,600 Not all doctors are created equal. 137 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Not all doctors are hacks. Not all doctors feel like they 138 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,960 work for big Pharma. Like the last one I saw where 139 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,640 I'm like, hey, take my blood instead of the blood pressure 140 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,120 medication because I know this because I've learned this from 141 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,680 other doctors. And he goes, no, we're going to 142 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,160 give you these meds. And I'm like, yeah, but when you 143 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,640 see things, that's really easy to be manipulated over there or 144 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,320 to get advice that is completely wrong. 145 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,480 I would say above mental health is just health in general. 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Dietary stuff. Like people are like, oh, you 147 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,120 could live off of nothing but potatoes. 148 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Yeah, that guy's system could live off of nothing but 149 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,560 potatoes. Not just mental health, but 150 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,840 there's like, but there's a. Correlation. 151 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,400 Health or specialist that is not an actual specialist. 152 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,960 Now that we've got TikTok, the TikTok mental health or Tik. 153 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,840 T.O.K well, I I guarantee this we're like coffee enemas started 154 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,560 like people are like addicted to coffee enemas like they like to. 155 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,840 There's nothing like a coffee enema like what roast are you 156 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,520 using 'cause I this is like you know what's up my ass, but I 157 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,920 could totally taste it in my mouth. 158 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,080 I'd only heard that from my uncle who's like when my wife 159 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,360 had cancer and it was too, you'd use a coffee enema to help 160 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,679 remove the toxins 'cause I guess it was supposed to be really 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,440 good at helping cancer patients remove toxins or something. 162 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,280 So. But again, I mean, it's it. 163 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,640 That was the only, but I can't imagine using it even in that 164 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,559 sense. It's felt weird. 165 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,200 But I'm like, I guess if you've got cancer and you're dying and 166 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,080 you've tried everything, like, yeah, you're probably gonna 167 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,720 squirt some coffee up your asshole. 168 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Like at that point, what won't you try, you know? 169 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Brandon didn't even need to have cancer. 170 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,200 Nope, just thinking like that. Why do you think I started 171 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,040 roasting my own beans, taking it to the next level? 172 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,600 Like stringing them together, I'm like, what are you doing? 173 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,520 But anyways, no to, to pull back to. 174 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,000 But yeah, I, I feel that those things are helpful. 175 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,960 But when I start seeing that the one thing is mimicry and 176 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,720 depression, especially where I remember you had somebody close 177 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,560 to you, they had suicidal ideations and they were on 178 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:29,480 TikTok and other places with other people that weren't 179 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,040 helping, but they were actually making it worse. 180 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,600 They are feeding into it and it is. 181 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,200 That's part of the side effect of being constantly connected. 182 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Is this unconfirmed bias like you will just go well, yeah, but 183 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,840 they. And if the algorithm shows it, 184 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,280 well then. It's gonna keep pushing it. 185 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,760 You know it's well your your field gets an error or an error 186 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,680 cause your comments become this we're. 187 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:57,160 Guaranteed after this conversation, go on to Facebook 188 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,200 and you'll be seeing ads for mental health things and then 189 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,320 your videos will be more guided towards it. 190 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,360 And that's understandable. That's the thing why AI has been 191 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,800 such a good useful tool in this way, because now AI is starting 192 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,520 to scrub it. So if you find it not enjoyable, 193 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,640 I use that vote feature and report it constantly. 194 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,240 If I see something, I'm like, Nope, misinformation, sexually 195 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,040 inappropriate. Like the YouTube stuff where 196 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,800 people are constant, like the only fans girls are constantly 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,120 on there. Like, yeah, dude, they'll use it 198 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,240 where they're, they're getting away with showing partial 199 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,600 nudity, but it's just a link to get to their own page. 200 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,360 And so when they're doing that, I mean, I've got my kids on 201 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,440 there. I just want my kids to focus on 202 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,080 kids shit, that's all. But I see it now where I worry 203 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,160 about my children and their mental health. 204 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,800 Would I seek those out? No, I, I will say like in one 205 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,480 area and and then I'll pass it back to you. 206 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,960 ADHD. It's not necessarily that what I 207 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,080 put the best content I've seen on that one. 208 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:12,880 It's been acknowledging symptoms and behaviors that ADHD people 209 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:18,160 have, and that has been interesting because it's not 210 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,080 prescribing. It's like, hey, you feel like 211 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,880 this because I feel like this, yeah. 212 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,880 And you go, it becomes a lot of self diagnosis and there's, you 213 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,200 know, hypochondriac is. Which is funny because of that. 214 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:33,240 Unless this and. I don't do that anymore. 215 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,400 But you've gone more to chat where you're like, hey. 216 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,800 No, I don't even do that anymore. 217 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,640 I try not to because the. I was going to say that kind of 218 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,560 helped you through it some. Yeah, because it was hey, here's 219 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:45,800 what I'm feeling and and this is what I was thinking. 220 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Do I need to do this? And it's like, oh, no, you're 221 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,880 you're good. This is your side effects of 222 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,960 your medications, like try this. Oh, OK. 223 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Yeah, that's why I've gone less and less. 224 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,320 To and so then it's that realization in your head of 225 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,800 like, hey, maybe some of those things my my paranoia or fears 226 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,920 that were coming out yeah, they're like justified. 227 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,680 But maybe it's not necessary because this is 99.9% of the 228 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:08,400 time. Is is maybe this? 229 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,360 Yeah, because if you look at the cited information, if I see Wall 230 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,320 Street Journal or Newsweek, it's all fucking hyperbole. 231 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Yeah, every single bit of it. If it's in a major publication, 232 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,400 I don't trust it one bit. Who, Which major person is 233 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,200 funding that? Yeah. 234 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,880 If there's an actual study behind it, I'm like, OK, cool, I 235 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,600 want to follow that doctor. Yeah. 236 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:27,920 And then I'll find out what else they'll. 237 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,440 Get this study because often times. 238 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,040 That's a dry read, yeah. OK, it is dry, but it's, it's 239 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,280 just to go, what did they pull from this? 240 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,000 Because a lot of that data that the, the claim states are there 241 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,280 like the newsletter states, I'm like, this is not what your data 242 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,120 said. So you're pulling this really 243 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,040 skewed stuff. And then I look at that and I'm 244 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,120 like it. It is a very dry read, but it 245 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,560 really helps me understand that like. 246 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:52,880 Well, I take. This is a very skewed article. 247 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,600 Exactly what I do is I take it and I I draw, I download the 248 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,760 whole study and drop it into chat saying I need you to give 249 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,280 me the top points in simplistic form. 250 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,280 And I don't want to go through all the data sets. 251 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,400 I just want to know where do they start? 252 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,600 What was the middle? That sounds brilliant. 253 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,200 Save me so much time in reading. Because I need to know like. 254 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:16,520 I do too, that's why I read the data set 'cause I'm like that's. 255 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,760 What's helped me with it? That would save so much time in 256 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,200 the streamline of the work process, because then I don't 257 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,800 have to read all the data sets and go, all right, what does 258 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,960 this actually say? It can go. 259 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,480 This is what was concluded from here and here's what the data 260 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,080 sets showed versus what their conclusion showed versus what 261 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,120 their can. You break it down in the graph, 262 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,760 can you put it into a grid? And it'll do all that. 263 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,480 And that's understanding and wielding it in a way that it's 264 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,400 productive. But when you look at mental 265 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,920 health, like the ADHD thing I was talking about, there's a 266 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,160 content creator. I don't know her name, but she 267 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,720 said something on one of I just came across it and I was like, I 268 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,800 watched it again and I thought about it and I'm like, yeah, 269 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,120 that's pretty good. It talked about how dopamine 270 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,720 deficient ADHD, which is done by studies. 271 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,400 So it's not hyperbole, but the cool part about it was denying 272 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,560 yourself gratification. So people with who 273 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,680 neurodivergence, you could say we typically have lower 274 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:19,240 dopamine. So we're constantly doing 275 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,640 things, we constantly have projects, we do tons of stuff. 276 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,640 We're extremely physical because it's the only way to get all 277 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,640 that, that constant go, go, go, go, go mentality. 278 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,280 But the one thing that we do is we seek out behavior such as 279 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,800 scrolling on your phone, playing video games for a long period of 280 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,880 time, smoking way too much cannabis and, and not for 281 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,680 medical reasons. You're just like, because I've 282 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:49,000 got 5 minutes, you find yourself trying to just get dopamine 283 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,440 hits. That's where you see people who 284 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,360 are severely addicted to porn. Where I used to laugh about this 285 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,200 guy at this church where he showed up to talk about the the 286 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,200 dangers of porn and that he lost his job for it and his wife was 287 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,000 there too. And all I'm thinking is like, 288 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,240 this poor son of a bitch is having to pour his heart out and 289 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,840 do it in front of his wife when she gets home. 290 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,600 I'm, I'm all I'm thinking, 'cause I'm always thinking like 291 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,480 comedian or she gets home. She's like, yeah, phone. 292 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,840 Right. Fuck yeah. 293 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,520 I told you I just spoke to a bunch of people. 294 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,280 I don't do that anymore. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. 295 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,960 I've got the phone and the guy lost his job and I'm thinking 296 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,320 this poor bastard is beaten off like five times a day. 297 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,680 His Dick is raw his his right forearm is dragging behind him 298 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,640 'cause his massive that. Quagmire, Yeah. 299 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,320 Yeah, exactly. Twice the size what we're we 300 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,120 haven't seen you in a week. There's fat. 301 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Why man, watching that Internet? But it, it did totally. 302 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,520 But but now I understand that these behaviors and so I started 303 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,080 to do research from there and trying to find it. 304 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,880 And So what I, what I think of those is that if you see 305 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,840 something social media, it's a great starting point to start to 306 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,920 investigate, to look, to search beyond this thing. 307 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,760 It triggers in your mind because when I see something now that 308 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,320 seems too good to be true, I copy paste and I drop it into 309 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,440 chat and I said, hey, what's the validity of this claim? 310 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,360 And then it goes down like I've applied to jobs and then looked 311 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,600 at the company. Oh yeah. 312 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,720 And then they go, hey, you want to schedule an interview? 313 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,480 Said no, I changed my mind. Yeah. 314 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Because I find, I mean, it's, it's doing a little bit more and 315 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,800 but the, the mental health side, man, it's, it's a tricky, it's 316 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,000 tricky. It is. 317 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,280 That was the thing that it brought up. 318 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Like looking into it is a lot of like that symptom lists where 319 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,000 they give people this and then they're like, oh, or creating 320 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,120 things or you know, like, hey, there's no introversion. 321 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,600 It's just depression. Or social anxiety. 322 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,920 Yeah, so putting these labels on you of like, hey, you're not 323 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,920 this, you're this or maybe I am that. 324 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,080 OK, well, now you know, and then they're creating these labels or 325 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,800 then creating these patterns or that because, well, now I'm 326 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,400 this, so I got to be this way and. 327 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Yeah. And then you see it negatively. 328 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,079 Yeah. And then you see it starts to 329 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,200 materialize. Here's one that's really weird. 330 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,480 I don't know if you looked at it Trets. 331 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:11,240 So do you know what Trets is right? 332 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,680 We we know. That definition. 333 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,800 Hollywood version, You know where I'm sitting there and I'm 334 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,720 talking to you and go you. Swear. 335 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,640 Yeah. Freak out or yell or you know. 336 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,920 So there's a lot of Tourette syndrome content creators where 337 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,920 they share what? Living with is like, yeah. 338 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:34,480 And then oddly enough, through mimicry and kids being kids, 339 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,080 they have caused damage to themselves by developing ticks 340 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,000 because they do repetitive actions. 341 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,080 They're becoming ingrained into your Physiology and your 342 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,160 behaviors. So it's not, it's not psychosis. 343 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,360 No, it's, it's mimicry that turns into like, there's, 344 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,440 there's things that I do all the time. 345 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,040 These are not because it's a, it's a tick. 346 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,800 It's a subconscious thing at this point because it's been so 347 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,680 much of you for. So they've had a bunch of 348 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,240 teenagers not only have these weird ticks all the sudden 349 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,800 because it was more play, but then all the sudden, dude, 350 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,440 they're being hospitalized because they can't stop these 351 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,040 ticks. And now medications are being 352 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,040 brought in because you got to re reprogram the mind. 353 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,960 So mental illness isn't something you can catch, but you 354 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,040 can also develop certain types of behaviors that take over that 355 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,720 are negative. And I don't see that as a mental 356 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,800 health thing. I think it is a learned behavior 357 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,920 that goes over it. It's a lot like growing up in a 358 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,520 crime ridden area, Like we know nothing about that. 359 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,400 We grew up in in a very and I'm I love that people go, oh man, 360 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,640 you don't know hard. Yeah. 361 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,200 Thank you. Yeah, I'm very thankful for 362 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:47,760 that. Right. 363 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,960 Like I mean, I grew up in a ghetto of orb. 364 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,320 I didn't have to worry about my house getting shot up or someone 365 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,760 breaking in. Like yeah, we had a security 366 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,960 system, but I always. Find security. 367 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:00,920 Yeah. It's like it's gonna be really 368 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,680 loud while they beat you to death. 369 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,160 I'm like, it's great that it calls the people who call the 370 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,360 cops, but like. I wanted to like shoot like 371 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:12,400 trapping foam that instantly hard. 372 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,960 It just sprays them. They get it, you're over, you're 373 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,680 going. Intruder caught my front door. 374 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Right. I quit in the world and then I 375 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,640 went and sold security later. But my parents like we got ours 376 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,720 installed in the 90s. Yeah, but you know, the thing 377 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,320 too is that. Who wasn't getting There was no 378 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,800 going. On but that's that's another son 379 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,720 like earlier. So you can see like mass, mass 380 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:41,440 mass hysteria compared to localized hysteria like people 381 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,280 like your parents, like here in Utah, rarely there were 382 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,360 burglaries. I know well my dad's parents 383 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,240 never locked to their doors to their house, never locked their 384 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,320 cars, and their keys were always left in the ignition. 385 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,720 My dad grew up that way. I grew up going down there and 386 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,520 their home was always unlocked. Their keys were always in their 387 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,920 ignition until my grandparents died. 388 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Like that was just always how it was. 389 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,960 It's like security companies conspired to be able to get you 390 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,040 to buy shit from a fear that's not. 391 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,960 Real. It's fear mongering and going oh 392 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,800 shit. And there are some areas that 393 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,760 are more rundown and totally ghetto. 394 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,360 But The thing is most people who break into your home know you. 395 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,480 They know what you have. No one's just going wandering 396 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,560 house to house, usually looking in the windows going shit, what 397 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,400 do they have? Do you think they have more than 398 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,080 like $1000 somewhere? Do you think I could break in 399 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,400 and hunt their whole home like? Yeah, people don't keep loose 400 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,720 cash. They don't do those things. 401 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,320 But no, it's it's the mimicry that you see on there that can 402 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,760 be harmful. But I know that there's other 403 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,880 things like what? What are some good things that 404 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,560 you think you've been able to find through there? 405 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,160 Because I don't play on TikTok. I don't do a ton of it, 406 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,040 honestly. There is like there are some 407 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,320 licensed professionals. There's one doctor, Sasha 408 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Hamdani, the psych Dr. MD, he uses TikTok to educate, 409 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,720 normalize symptoms and direct people to proper care. 410 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,200 A lot of them do like breathing exercises, grounding techniques 411 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,880 or explaining symptoms to just help people identify potential 412 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,680 concerns and stuff. So like those can be good if 413 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,040 they point you in the right direction or that, but like it's 414 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,000 a bittersweet, you know, it's like the Internet, there's the 415 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000 good, there's the bad. It's it's YouTube, it's 416 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,480 anywhere. There's there's missed 417 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,320 information, misdirection, and then there's other information. 418 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,400 And it can be hard to differentiate for you what what 419 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,800 the best is like, Hey, what is actually real? 420 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,960 What what am I supposed to follow here? 421 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,800 You know, because you see one video that says this and then 422 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,680 Fox News says this, and then, you know, this other one says 423 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,200 this. You know, what do I do? 424 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,320 You know, and sometimes we. Just And now it's even harder 425 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,800 because then you go, well, I don't trust the mainstream 426 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,480 media, but I trust Sasha 6942. Yeah. 427 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,760 And you know what? I. 428 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,560 Or cannabis school. Yeah, yeah, I get all my 429 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,440 information from there. This any, any information you 430 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,360 find should be just the tip of where you start. 431 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:06,280 Curiosity. Yeah. 432 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,080 And then explore deeper to be able to fully understand it. 433 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,040 Like that's what we have done with cannabis school. 434 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,640 We want to know as much as we can about the plant. 435 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,680 And you know, I I'm not arrogant by any means. 436 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,880 I don't think anybody in the cannabis world should be 437 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,560 arrogant about their knowledge of cannabis. 438 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,680 But you realize how much you know, after so much time when 439 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,640 you're talking to somebody and they ask you a question. 440 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,880 Oh, yeah. And they're going well. 441 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,840 I don't take it because I get tired. 442 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:33,880 What kind are you taking? What? 443 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,560 What way are you taking like? Oh, I've tried them all. 444 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Yeah, I've tried all the gummies at the counter. 445 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,360 You. Tell me you've tried them all. 446 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,160 We've been running a cannabis show for four years and we've 447 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,080 not even scratched the surface. Like don't give me that crap, 448 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,680 dude. It was like this one guy I 449 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,120 bought AI bought a bag of gummies for him because he's 450 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:52,880 like, oh, I don't know if I want to get a medical Corp, could you 451 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,280 give me some gummies? I'm like, yeah, dude, meet me 452 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,600 over at Kira and I went got him that and he left it in his. 453 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,280 Car and it melted into a gelatinous mess. 454 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:03,880 Yep. And I'm like, well, good luck 455 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,680 with that. So then he just spit off pieces. 456 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,920 That's Yep, that's what happens. That's. 5 milligrams one time, 457 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:13,480 65 next time, right? I mean, he doesn't, he's not 458 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,000 smart, but you know, that's the thing it's it's being able to 459 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,800 take a lot of this advice and that's what it is advice. 460 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:24,000 But I, I've seen the, the most helpful content when it comes to 461 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,680 that is not necessarily telling me what to do, but kind of 462 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,120 getting like an understanding of like I, I've felt like this or 463 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:35,200 I've seen these things and you may notice. 464 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,040 And the, the reason, the reason why I got so behind 12 shapes is 465 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:44,480 it's been the first behavioral system that doesn't make you 466 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,640 feel like you're bad at something. 467 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:52,120 The disk model, strength, Finder, color code, all these 468 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:55,080 ones, Myers Briggs, all of those they go about. 469 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,080 Here's what you're great at, here's where you suck at. 470 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,520 I don't know if it's necessarily that we suck at them. 471 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,480 We're just not good at them because sometimes it's not been 472 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,840 our focus. It's not been. 473 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,920 But that's the thing. The best strong suit is but. 474 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,000 I think that what it does is it's misguiding because the 475 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,480 misguiding is it's telling you like, hey, it's like, you know, 476 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,160 yeah, yeah. Is there going to be a Spud Webb 477 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,560 in the NBA anytime soon? Probably not. 478 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,080 And for those who don't know, Spud Webb was 59 and played in 479 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,240 the NBA and could dunk. He could dunk. 480 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,200 That's a mad hops he's. Short. 481 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,560 Yeah, 'cause I was 510 3/4 because, you know, every little 482 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,440 bit mattered and I could barely, like I could nick the rim, but I 483 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,160 could never dunk. It was. 484 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,560 I could dunk. I would spend hours trying to, 485 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,560 but just practice. He is A1 in billions of 486 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,720 percentile who has that? And so it's it's this misleading 487 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,040 thing where somebody would be like, I really want to be the 488 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,440 CEO of a company and where life coaches come in and business 489 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,360 coaches come in. And this is part of a good. 490 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,600 This is a big area that I feel kind of molds right into the 491 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,720 same thing because it sets up false expectations and false 492 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,040 beliefs where somebody's going to be like, yeah, you'll be ACEO 493 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,200 of a company, but maybe you're not built for that. 494 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,400 Maybe it's you're wired different and let's see where 495 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,040 you fit in that company. Like I was having a discussion 496 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,000 with a guy yesterday and I said, you know, I'm a real good #2 I 497 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520 don't like being number one in a company. 498 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,640 And he goes, really why? And I'm like, because I'm the 499 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,680 idea guy, I'm the get engaged with the people side. 500 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,480 I'm a good president of a company. 501 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,360 I would never be a good CEO because I know that if I was the 502 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:41,240 CEO, then the day-to-day decisions have to come down to 503 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,200 me. And I don't want to do that. 504 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,440 I just don't want to do that. What I want to do is the ideas. 505 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,000 I want to drive it, want to grow it, but I don't want to be 506 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,680 responsible for it, if that makes sense. 507 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,120 But there's too many of them, like Grant Cardone, Tony 508 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,640 Robbins, you know, what's his name? 509 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,720 The guy, the blue eyed British Indian dude who says he was a 510 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,720 monk and he really wasn't Jay Shetty. 511 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,720 Like there's Jay Shetty who has grown in this space of life 512 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,040 coaching and all that stuff. And he, he did it all off of a 513 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320 lie. He said, Oh, I was a monk. 514 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,680 He he went past their problem. It's it's like, you know, saying 515 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,800 like I work for Microsoft because I have AI, was a 516 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,400 contractor. Class and you know. 517 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,040 Oh, no, there's a lot. I mean, and it was before those 518 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,680 and that's those things like master. 519 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,200 Oh, what, what are they called masterminds? 520 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,120 What was his nuts? Which one? 521 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:34,400 That one guy. Oh, the master. 522 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,480 Oh, which one? Dolan Circle or fucking don't 523 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,200 remember his name. Yeah, John. 524 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,760 And then the other one. Yeah, John Kovac. 525 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,520 And I thought he bounced off of another mastermind that was 526 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,400 before that. Yeah, 'cause he used to claim 527 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,000 like, oh, I'm the youngest guy to be able to ever lead 528 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,960 masterminds. I'm like. 529 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,240 But when I, when we went to the mastermind group, I was really 530 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,840 surprised that it was just a bunch of people who were trying 531 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,600 to start a business that had never been in business before. 532 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280 And we're attempting for the first time and we're still 533 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,840 pretty new. And I'm like, this just feels 534 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,640 like a networking event where people are paying to try and 535 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,600 learn. But you're still pretty new to 536 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,560 business too, so. Or the ones I would go to, where 537 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,040 they were, they were all like, what's his name? 538 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,040 Napoleon Hill. Like groupies? 539 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,480 Eat or grow? Eat. 540 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,200 Think and grow rich. Yeah, I, I think there is value 541 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,440 in stuff, but it's the problem with some of the life coaches or 542 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,920 ones like that is when they tell people that, I mean, you can be 543 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,920 anything you can now, will you be the best version of that? 544 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:41,360 Not necessarily, because I think we do each have our strong suits 545 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,920 and our areas of expertise that we're more more fitted for that 546 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,080 We're like, hey, yeah, you probably could be everything. 547 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,360 You could be an NBA, whatever. If you spend a lot of time and 548 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,480 that you might not be the best. You might be like bottom string. 549 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,880 You might barely scrape in there somehow. 550 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:00,800 If you spent 40 hours a week practicing, if you did this, you 551 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,840 might be able to do that. Yeah, you might be able to be 552 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,760 the CEO, but your company isn't going to be big and it's 553 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,120 successful. It's not going to be this large 554 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,600 thing. And instead of going, hey, yes, 555 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,560 let's help you do this. Go what is it that you're trying 556 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,160 to accomplish or gain from that? What is it that you're looking 557 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,480 to achieve from being ACEO or gain or get from that? 558 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,360 You know, is it the title? What are you wanting from that 559 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:25,440 title? Is it respect? 560 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,520 Is it like, what is it that you're trying to get from that 561 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,840 title? Is there another way to help you 562 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,040 achieve this without going, maybe this isn't your best 563 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,640 strong suit, but you could do this and maybe still achieve 564 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,960 those things you're looking for and feel that value, that 565 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,480 respect that whatever you're trying to achieve and accomplish 566 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,800 without necessarily having to do it in the route that you're 567 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,640 thinking. Because that might not be your 568 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,840 best strong suit. You're really fucking strong 569 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,160 here. And you could do this here and 570 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,640 see that like see those skills and that value without having 571 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360 to, because wouldn't that be what a life coach is, is 572 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,080 coaching you how to be successful in life? 573 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,240 And that might not necessarily be the CEO or the like the dream 574 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880 that we've built in our mind. It might be something totally 575 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,000 different. Yeah, and that's the hard thing 576 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,120 too. It's, you know, before what life 577 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,200 coaching was was being able to systematize your life, to put 578 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,640 yourself on a schedule, checks and balances, which are all very 579 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,800 good, you know, but the side of like, can anybody be anything? 580 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,640 I disagree. I don't think you should. 581 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,040 I don't know that. You should. 582 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,760 I don't even think you should explore it. 583 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,560 I think that this is this is the reason reason why I would say 584 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,680 something like that. We've got a massive amount of 585 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,840 student debt in this world for people who have that exact same 586 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,360 idea. Yeah, like I'm gonna do this. 587 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,240 That's. What I'm saying? 588 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760 So what do they say? It's like. 76% of people who 589 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960 graduate do not use their degree, 76%. 590 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,840 I would wait for that, yeah. Because most of like most people 591 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,040 that I know, unless they are a medical professional, like a 592 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,240 doctor or an attorney or an accountant, an accountant or 593 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,640 like an architect or an engineer, or if you go into like 594 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,680 some bioengineering or something, those specifics. 595 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,800 But even then, I found quite a few of them that don't even 596 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720 utilize their degree still and are in a whole different field 597 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,640 or area. And so even those that you would 598 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,040 figure more would be you still find it. 599 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,200 So I would wager, yeah, 100% you would see 76 or more of people 600 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,480 who don't utilize their degree because it's not valuable in or, 601 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,520 or they don't find the purpose that they were hoping from it. 602 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,640 Like, Hey, I really, I was trying to be this basketball 603 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,320 player, this CEO or this thing or yeah. 604 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,640 And, and I didn't feel 6 like I didn't find value and I didn't 605 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,400 find purpose. I woke up and I hated my life 606 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,520 every day. Like how many people do that? 607 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,560 And they're like, oh, you're having a middle life crisis. 608 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,080 Well, maybe you just tried to live someone else's dream Going, 609 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,840 I need to do this for so long and woke up one day going fuck. 610 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,320 You know, I really like just putting together bikes and 611 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,840 selling them. Or I just like making coffee or 612 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,600 I like, I like working with my hands. 613 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480 I'm going to go be a plumber. Well. 614 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,720 You know, whatever it is, because it was the realization 615 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,080 of like all these things that we were told you had to do, it 616 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,440 didn't necessarily equate to your happiness. 617 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040 Well, and that's the thing too, It's always keeping up with the 618 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,680 Joneses and that's where I find that a lot of these social media 619 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,560 life coaches, business coaches or any of that or mental health 620 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,280 coaches, because that's what you are when you. 621 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,520 Subscribe to my course. Yeah, subscribe to my course. 622 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,360 Like, like the ADHD girl, like, I like some of her, her content. 623 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,640 It's kind of funny. And then she goes. 624 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,760 I'm also an ADHD coach and I'm like, there's, there's the, 625 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,440 there's the rub, right? And it's instead like I would 626 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,200 see these content creators, the content creators that do really, 627 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,800 really well are the ones who are not asking for anything. 628 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,880 They're putting out content. They just put out the content 629 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,960 that can be helpful. One of the most favorite ones I 630 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320 ever saw. And I don't even have anything 631 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,960 wrong with this part other than I'm getting older and I have 632 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,200 diabetes. An optometrist. 633 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,920 Hilarious, content, hilarious. Like this one where he talks to 634 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,240 himself and he's like, yeah, I'm going to help out my patient, 635 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,400 but I got to put it into the insurance to make sure you're 636 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,120 doing that. He goes, wait a minute. 637 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,080 I thought you're. I thought you're practicing 638 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,920 medicine. Yeah, but the insurance has to 639 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400 sign off on it. So let me get this right. 640 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,240 You have to wait on the insurance to be able to make 641 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,360 sure that this medical claim can actually be taken care of. 642 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,880 And he goes, yeah, so that would be practicing medicine. 643 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,040 It goes. So the insurance companies 644 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,320 practice medicine. They do. 645 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Doctors give suggestions. Yep, I learned that with my 646 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,080 dad's last procedure on his back because he was like, cool, well, 647 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,040 they've submitted this to the insurance and they're waiting to 648 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,880 hear back on and what will be approved or not. 649 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,920 And we'll see whether they allow this procedure to be done or if 650 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,920 they try and make us do this other one that isn't 651 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,880 recommended. But for the insurance, it's 652 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840 cheaper. So that's what they would 653 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,680 recommend because it might not be the best for the body, but in 654 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,960 the long run it's going to cost the insurance less. 655 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,360 So it's not about what's best for the human body, it's about 656 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,280 what's going to keep more money in your insurance company's 657 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,920 pocket. And that brings me right back to 658 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,760 the TikTok stuff. Sorry, things like a little I'm 659 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,640 chasing it. It is the unconfirmed bias. 660 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,080 You know when you you should get multiple if you're going to be 661 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,000 looking at content on there. If they say five ways to make 662 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,440 your ADHD more livable, maybe skirt away from it. 663 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,640 The ones that are just talking more about, hey, this is what 664 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,520 it's like there. Here's some things that have 665 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,560 worked for me. Yeah, and making statements of I 666 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,560 instead of this. Well there that's what I've 667 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,520 liked because my youngest was always told by doctors and 668 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,720 everyone else that she has ADHD and the first thing was OK well 669 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,200 we should put her on caffeine pills because caffeine has the 670 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,080 opposite effect on her the other. 671 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,400 So she was on caffeine pills and it was amazing. 672 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,640 She worked just fine and then her mom moved her out of the 673 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,760 state which of course allowed her to go well I don't need your 674 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,880 approval. So now methadone is, are the, 675 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,639 you know, pharmaceutical meth is now going to be provided. 676 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:16,000 So yeah, so then she was on that, but there was still hyper 677 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,320 outbursts, all these things and no difference in focus or 678 00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:24,520 personality or all she did was lose her appetite, feel less 679 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,280 like herself and didn't gain anything from it. 680 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,679 Now she's been back with me for over 2 years. 681 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,639 She's not had any of that for over 2 years and yet she's had 682 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960 great grades in school. Her teachers love her. 683 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,840 No complaints, never outbursts or this or that. 684 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,400 It's no, she's quiet. She's like fantastic. 685 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,000 She learns, she's like she's a very good student. 686 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,440 And yet for when she was young and that and that was not what 687 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,440 was, you know, the doctors were, oh, you need to put this or do 688 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,160 this. And and then her mom wanted to 689 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,760 get her on that. And it's looking at it going, 690 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,480 but Emily's where we're going. TikTok that Emily had sent me 691 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,800 videos that were like people with ADHD. 692 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,080 And the lady was like, oh, things for me that are really 693 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,880 hard is like picking out my outfit, making sure like doing 694 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,360 this things. And she's like, so for me, I 695 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,920 just have these clear bins for me that makes it easier because 696 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,320 I can just like kind of go, oh, OK, versus just feeling 697 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,360 overwhelmed because I can't see everything or do that. 698 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120 And I was like, Oh, well, that might be a really simple change 699 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,760 or something that I could do that might make an easier effect 700 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,880 for Addison. And just maybe with how her 701 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,400 brain works, like there might not be a need for medication. 702 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,120 Maybe I just have to help work with how her brain works. 703 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680 Totally going. Well, what works for you? 704 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,360 Do you work this way? Well, if I can make these things 705 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,240 visible for you, does that make it easier? 706 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,280 OK, well, if it's easier, then who cares? 707 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,520 Like, what theme, what tool, what you know, like you said, 708 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,960 skills or tools that they can use or provide going This has 709 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,160 really helped me. OK, well, shit. 710 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,680 Yeah. I kind of struggle with that. 711 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,720 Would that tool or that little simple change help me? 712 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,680 Could I impact my life by by doing this really simple thing? 713 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,240 You know, I, I like that aspect of it going and I've pulled that 714 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:12,920 from a lot of things, even on TikTok or other books, you know, 715 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,000 everywhere where it's like, oh shit. 716 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,360 But that's good. It what it is, is a perspective 717 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,400 and it doesn't have a motive. And that's where I see those who 718 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,680 are saying five ways to do this or 1010 things that you're doing 719 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,600 wrong with ADHD and how to fix them. 720 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,440 Like anybody giving you a solid claim of this works. 721 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,760 Be very wary of that, especially when it comes to ADHD. 722 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,360 But depression? And they say it's a spectrum on 723 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,360 all these things. So 100% then it's looking at it 724 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,320 going, well, where on this spectrum am I supposedly? 725 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,320 And where on that spectrum are they versus like if it was 726 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,320 videos going, here's 5 things I struggle with and here's how I 727 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,360 deal with them. Cool. 728 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,000 I really struggle with this and I found when I do this, it's 729 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,600 kind of helped me and I don't know. 730 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,320 And then you're going, I struggle with that, not self 731 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,440 diagnosing, but like, damn, I know that I struggle with this 732 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,560 issue. I I see this issue or this 733 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,280 reoccurrence often in my life and I know that for me, I struck 734 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,040 like, that's hard. Damn, I've never thought about 735 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,720 this approach. I've never even thought about 736 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,680 trying that thing. And then you'd be more inclined 737 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,240 to look into the creator. Yes. 738 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,440 And then if you found the creator had a course and you'd 739 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,760 be like, oh, that's cool. Yeah, I take that. 740 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,600 I like how they approached these things or how they worked with 741 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,560 their struggles. Not man they were diagnosed by a 742 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,760 doctor or self diagnosed through TikTok and a checklist of hey 743 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,960 I've got this. But like man I really struggle 744 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,800 with this because all growing up apparently doctors told my 745 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,920 parents that we had ADHD, that I had ADHD, that I should be on 746 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,880 meds. And that was apparently what my 747 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,600 dad was told and his family was told. 748 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,120 And then I look at it and I go, OK, well, if instead it was, 749 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,800 hey, I'm diagnosed with this. And this is what I, you know, 750 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,280 well, it's not this is ADHD, it's this is how I struggle. 751 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,520 And this is what I'm struggling with. 752 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,640 And this is what I found helps me sometimes because this is 753 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,400 really fucking hard for me to do. 754 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,640 Maybe you guys have struggles with this. 755 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,280 Have you found something that works good for you? 756 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,040 Because maybe there's a better way than what I'm doing, like 757 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,880 how many of us do at that approach versus going, man, I'm 758 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,800 diagnosed with this and this means this, this, this, this, 759 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,520 this. Because clinically this 760 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,720 checklist says I've got this. Well it's it's like people who 761 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:25,680 will use the DSM 5 as their like standpoint of like absolute 762 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,480 surety. Like this was said by this 763 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,160 therapeutic board. I don't care. 764 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,080 I have a hard time with actual therapists. 765 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,280 I think that they are few and far between. 766 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,080 Because it's all individual based. 767 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,360 Yeah, 100%. And if you are a person who is 768 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,400 extremely empathetic and has a great time and connecting with 769 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,880 people, go towards therapy, something towards that, because 770 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,840 you have a gift. When I see somebody who's cold 771 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,640 and methodical and treating it like they're an eye surgeon to 772 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,000 somebody over there, like you can't, you can't DSM your five 773 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,880 your way out of this, then it becomes this weird like biblical 774 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,680 standard. Well, we're, we're putting the 775 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,240 human on the other side and we're taking away the humanity 776 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,600 and we're putting him in this checklist or a box and going 777 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,400 here is how I fix this. Prescribe this, do 10 Hail Marys 778 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,800 and touch your toes three times and spin in a circle and you'll 779 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,080 be healed. Well, it's not even the heal 780 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,880 part. It's just like the the idea of 781 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,800 that you aren't OK. Like there are things about you, 782 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,600 there's quirks and personality traits and behaviors. 783 00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:37,480 Oh, because of the diagnosis you're not OK. 784 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,960 Yeah, you're not OK. Like a lot of them start to be 785 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,840 Well, like, because then you get the other part where you going? 786 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,160 Well, did you get diagnosed? I mean, most people are 787 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,680 undiagnosed ADHD, whatever. And, and honestly, it's just a 788 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,760 way for us to put labels on things so we can make sense of 789 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,320 it. Because if it's just happening. 790 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,360 It's different and we don't people don't like different. 791 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,560 And this world really loves labels. 792 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,880 We like to have a label to attach to something. 793 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,200 It's what do you identify as? What's your political thing? 794 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,000 What's your religious thing? It's what do you label yourself 795 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,280 as so I can identify you and feel where you fit into my list 796 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,520 of people. Like what are your labels? 797 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,640 Tell me. And it's not understanding. 798 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,120 Hey, like what are your struggles? 799 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,400 Who are you as a person? It's. 800 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,080 Well, and that's where it comes down to it's connection. 801 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,840 That's where the the part of where I was saying that I, I 802 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,200 don't like a lot of mental health professionals. 803 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,680 Yeah, is because I've, I've seen a lot of them. 804 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,320 I've got over 10 years of working in psych You've seen. 805 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,760 A lot of health stuff. Working with children to adults 806 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:44,440 and I'll tell you man like I, it is a turn style of individuals 807 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,440 that come through that. Yeah. 808 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,800 They may be nice people, yeah, but they're not built for that. 809 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,360 This was something. Yeah. 810 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,600 Yeah, this was pointed to them towards from some college 811 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,360 counsellor who was just like, yeah, what do you. 812 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,600 Want to be and how how many of us when we're that young truly 813 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,160 understand who we are and how we like what our strong suits and 814 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,720 our skill sets are and and how we connect with people and and 815 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,640 like I love connecting with people and talking with people 816 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,520 but I think therapy would be really hard to take on 817 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,800 everyone's. Shit and and that's where you 818 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,320 get a lot of these like red, I mean, does red light therapy 819 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,040 help? Probably, maybe do cold plunges 820 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,760 work? I guess you know all this. 821 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,000 It's trendy shit that got started. 822 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,320 Like honestly like people are were making a bundle of cash 823 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,320 making these cold tubs. Yeah, well, honestly, it I 824 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,600 thought it just came from the Wim Hof thing, but the thing 825 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,280 they missed, No, it came from before. 826 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,920 It's way before. That I thought the the big 827 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,440 massive trend of the newest came from women off because. 828 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,000 No, that was more like the breathing and all that stuff, 829 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,320 and that's died down too. Because his was more breathing 830 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,840 focused when I watched all his stuff. 831 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,120 It was the stunt. He's in the cold and yeah, it's 832 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,760 getting this illness out of my bloodstream or whatever, like 833 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,680 these things. But it was breathing. 834 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,760 So that's why I was very curious because. 835 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,440 Which is funny. Because I don't know what he is. 836 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,560 Kind of commercialized himself where to the point where it 837 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,320 killed. And that's the part that's hard 838 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,080 too, man. It's does it live in it? 839 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:20,200 It does it live in infamy or does it does it just fizzle? 840 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,440 And most of them fizzle like because it's just something 841 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,960 especially in our our day and age. 842 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,680 And that's where I see the dangers of TikTok therapy. 843 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,000 Is it, you know, you'll be in this constant loop of looking 844 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,600 for your advice through that or going straight to ChatGPT when 845 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,720 you haven't trained it to be able to actually engage with you 846 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,960 on that level and it's just going to pull whatever it can 847 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,760 find? It'll do whatever you ask. 848 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,640 Given parameters and stuff like you will get all sorts of 849 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,320 suggestions. And that, yeah, you got to guide 850 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,480 it. And we don't have a world of 851 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,400 connection. And that's where I see it's been 852 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,680 the most needed. And that's why people gravitate 853 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,360 towards it because it's not a dopamine high. 854 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,920 It's a quick fix of hope. You're smoking opium now and 855 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,680 you're like, OK, good. And hope is good. 856 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,280 Don't be wrong. Hope is good. 857 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,400 It gives you a little bit of stability underneath you to keep 858 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,720 going. But when you find people that 859 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:20,160 are like, so biased that they get all their info, all of their 860 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,400 medical, political, religious ideations from TikTok, you are 861 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,440 getting a soup of different ideas and you need to be 862 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,720 consistent. It's like, you know, like 863 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,240 there's two different ways of working out. 864 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,960 Either you can just work out your whole body and you'll get 865 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,960 some stuff done, or you can isolate and see improvement over 866 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,120 a period of time. Both of them serve the same 867 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,400 purpose. It just depends on which path 868 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,360 you're going to go down, what you want to do. 869 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,560 Do you just want to be healthy? This is a good idea. 870 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,680 If you really want to wreck your body and see crazy changes, do 871 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,240 this. But there is no right way. 872 00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:58,560 And that's where I see a lot of these. 873 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,400 It's hard for minds that are not really discerning to be able to 874 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,120 go through it going, OK, yeah, that would apply like how you 875 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,120 were talking about. Yeah. 876 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,240 That's unique. I would do that. 877 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,680 It's like I could see one TikTok about diabetes management where 878 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,960 they're talking about low carbs, high fat protein and then the 879 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,560 next one going, I totally got rid of my type 2 diabetes eating 880 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,640 nothing but watermelon. And if they said that that's 881 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,320 dangerous because watermelon will absolutely spike your blood 882 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,160 sugar. So it's like, where are they 883 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,160 getting? And, and The thing is, they 884 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,120 somebody heard something. This is the funniest one, and 885 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,880 I'll have to send you the video, but it was about this girl who 886 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:45,360 went to BYU and I think she was studying geology and her 887 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,480 professor said the dinosaurs, right? 888 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:54,800 This is a weird Mormon belief. The dinosaurs actually were put 889 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,160 here from another planet together by God, and that's why 890 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,360 we find them, right? That was taught at BYU. 891 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,120 No, it was taught by this professor. 892 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,360 At BYU. Yeah. 893 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,720 And then, but this is the thing, you we go BYU and then we go to 894 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,320 any university, any university. You're gonna have a. 895 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,080 Fringe Professor. Taught over a pulpit or a thing 896 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,720 to students, it's. And they pay money for this, 897 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:22,520 yes, And that's. Yeah, and they're graded on it. 898 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:23,760 Yep. And they're not. 899 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,160 Graded on. That, you know, for people who 900 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,600 are going into that. So that's the thing. 901 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,840 It's like, where is the information? 902 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,280 Is it, do you know, be there based on experience or do you 903 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,920 know, based upon research, not getting a bunch of things. 904 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,120 That's why life coaches, even in Utah, and there's a lot of other 905 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,720 states too, Utah now has a law stating that life coaches are 906 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:50,160 not allowed to do therapeutic things such as EMDR. 907 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:54,680 And there was a big case here in Utah where there was a woman who 908 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,000 was a licensed therapist but went under life coaching. 909 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,920 OK, why? Well to see their methods or cuz 910 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,000 you saw a. License Therapist has 911 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,880 malpractice insurance. So they didn't need that. 912 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,760 Life coaches don't. Yeah. 913 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,400 So they got sued because this person got really depressed. 914 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,640 You also see BIG in the news. Do you know about that woman? 915 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:20,080 What was her name like? I got the info she was the one 916 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,840 that had all these kids trapped in the basement and shit. 917 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,640 Oh, in Utah, Yeah, I swear I read about that, but it's been a 918 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,840 while. Frankie something. 919 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,520 Frankie Munez. Frankie Nunez. 920 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,800 I swear that was on like TV when I was a kid at some point. 921 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,320 I have no idea that name. Yeah, there was this. 922 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,600 Oh, but they were all foster kids, weren't they? 923 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,520 No. No, this woman, Ruby Frankie, 924 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,880 Ruby Frankie had a very successful YouTube channel based 925 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,040 out of here in Utah, OK. And it was her extreme 926 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,000 parenting. Extreme. 927 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,720 Yeah, extreme. Like she was very like, like her 928 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,760 daughter called her one time there was a video and her 929 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,040 daughter calls her and she's doing the video and she goes, 930 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,680 she called me and I told her if you don't get your lunch, then 931 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,120 you can't have your lunch. So you got to make sure you're 932 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,160 being responsible for your lunch. 933 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,160 And I'm not taking her lunch. So we're kids doesn't have lunch 934 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,520 that day, which I don't know why you're doing that to a child. 935 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,280 Yeah. You know, if they're a teenager, 936 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,640 Yeah, you, whatever, you know, go, go. 937 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,720 Tons of years figuring this out like. 938 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,560 But she actually went to prison, plead guilty for four counts of 939 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,600 child abuse and aggravated child abuse. 940 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,560 But the thing was, is this woman was a life coach. 941 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,200 That kind of started to twist her around and this woman was 942 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,840 the one that she had told her about this extreme parent who 943 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,360 they created a business. Her kids were trapped in the 944 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,120 house. One of the kids escaped, ran to 945 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,480 a man and he had duct tape around his arms and he's like, 946 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,920 you can help me? Yeah. 947 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,920 Yeah, the kid and the guy called the cops and they found all the 948 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,720 other kids have been abused for years, malnourished, chained up, 949 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,200 taped up for for going against it. 950 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,600 And this the the dangers of a soft mind, you know. 951 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,800 And even, you know, holding therapies and stuff, there's 952 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,200 things that that's what I was saying. 953 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,120 Like when you were saying that, it just made me think of all the 954 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,360 things that certain parents did and it's. 955 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,960 That's the dangers of TikTok too, because somebody could 956 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,280 reintroduce that yeah, going hey, this is a really good 957 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,320 thing. This is fringe, but this is 958 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,480 it's. Like then how many parents are 959 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,600 like, Oh yeah, I I'd do that. I'd try that it. 960 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,080 Was like this one, one lady, she had this funny content and I was 961 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,560 like, does she have content for it? 962 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,480 She says she's a sex therapist, but she does yoga poses on 963 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,920 social media. Yeah. 964 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,040 Tell you how to have sex better. It's like what? 965 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,040 It's all about positions. It's not about connection, like, 966 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,160 and I'm already having questions about you. 967 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,680 Yeah, because you get some thirsty dudes like, well, I 968 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,160 wanna do all those things. Yeah. 969 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,160 And the woman's like, I don't want him to do any of those 970 00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,320 things. Yeah, I don't want any of those 971 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,880 positions. I don't want that. 972 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,040 He doesn't understand me. So it's looking at both sides. 973 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,680 It's a double edged sword, but there's it's like content that 974 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,760 you create for evolution of me, you know, later on. 975 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,880 And when you put that out, you're doing it in a way of more 976 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,920 of here's a journey, here's a perspective, not here's the way. 977 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,760 No, it might be, hey, here's a thing that might work for you. 978 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,360 It might like. There's never. 979 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,160 Yeah, that's awesome. No, because that's awesome. 980 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,920 I am not an expert in any sort of fucking way. 981 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,680 But but you're you're, you're an engaged learner and that's more 982 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,560 important for other people, right? 983 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:41,000 It's, it's like where I'm at now with like one of the things I've 984 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,560 toyed around with because of how many people I've talked to is, 985 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,000 is doing more of connection coaching, not life coaching, 986 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,600 connection coaching, teaching you how to. 987 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,520 How to connect with? Humans build friends and and to 988 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,080 start relationships because I've had so many people that I've 989 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,320 worked with not unintentionally giving them advice because 990 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,320 they've asked and it's worked out well for him. 991 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,160 So I'm like, OK, cool. Is it based off of a lot of 992 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,400 experience? Yeah. 993 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,800 A lot of the behavior science. Yeah. 994 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,640 But I'm always in growth and I'm not thinking that I have all the 995 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,200 answers. And then when I meet people like 996 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,400 that in the life coaching industry, they go, I have all of 997 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,320 them. Anyone who tells you they have 998 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,600 all the answers, run. Yeah, like, and that's why like 999 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,520 what I'm creating called behavioral fusion, it's these 1000 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,760 things can be updated, they can be changed. 1001 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,240 These are tools. They're not the way. 1002 00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,920 It's just a tool. It's just like any other tool 1003 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,000 that you see in a tool chest. Like going, I could use some of 1004 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,880 that tool. That's what I want to create. 1005 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,480 And I started coming to it because that's been the hardest 1006 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,720 thing for me. It's like what you, you're, 1007 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:51,640 you're not a life coach, but you want life experiences and by 1008 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,120 learning from those and being honest with people and honest 1009 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,160 with yourself and what you can be able to achieve from that I 1010 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,880 think is exponentially better. So what I would suggest on that 1011 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,760 side, instead of going to TikTok or anything like that, start 1012 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,680 looking for podcasts that have these open dialogues. 1013 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,720 That's true, yeah, you might find, because there are quite a 1014 00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:12,120 few experts actually, who do have shows too. 1015 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,600 Oh, dude, so many, so many. And a lot of them are missed 1016 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,120 because people just, it's lost in the sea of like, well, if 1017 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,360 it's not on call her daddy. I don't know what it is. 1018 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,520 And it's just like, you know, I, I, I'm not gonna be OK with 1019 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,120 this. So a lot of our audience 1020 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,720 struggles with mental health or have talked to even sent us 1021 00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:33,840 messages about their journeys and stuff. 1022 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,280 And even with you guys, what have you guys found? 1023 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,160 Like has there been a, a doctor, a podcast, a like a book, you 1024 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,960 know, something that you have gone to that has really just 1025 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,600 given you a tool or a skill or something to go, hey, maybe you 1026 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,520 haven't thought of this and this might really help. 1027 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,600 And then also, if you guys have come across some like real shady 1028 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,360 looking Tik tokers, why don't you go and send over to us 1029 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,200 because we'd like good laugh, be able to look at it, maybe ponder 1030 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,840 it, maybe even have some dialogue with you. 1031 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,600 Also would love the comments. Keep them coming and the honesty 1032 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,040 in the comments. Dude, seriously right there on 1033 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,160 Spotify. We think it's so cool that you 1034 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,640 can engage with it. Get better. 1035 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,120 Yeah. So as always, guys love you. 1036 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,560 Catch you next week. Take care.