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I'm Brandon. 
And I'm Jesse we're. 

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Cannabis school having cannabis 
infused conversations with 

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everyday. 
People. 

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Cannabis companies. 
Celebrities. 

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And your mom? 
Welcome to the sesh. 

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Well that's fine. 
I could put in effort or energy,

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but that is effort and energy. 
This took me 0 effort. 

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And energy, that's a great 
perspective. 

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How often do people want to do 
the work versus like, no, like 

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it's work, but yet when we do 
the work, that's where change 

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happens. 
That's where money, like that's 

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where everything happens. 
As with the work, going to the 

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gym, that's where we see, you 
know, it's in doing the work. 

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But how many people want to do 
the work versus just talk about 

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the work, you know? 
Because it's difficult, man. 

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You know, it's, it's a lot of 
ego shit that gets in the way. 

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Man. 
I got to tell you, I, I, I'm 

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doing a new training. 
It's level 1 through 12 shapes. 

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And what's really cool is that 
in no way shape or form has she 

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tried to tell us that we were 
wrong or that we need to think 

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differently. 
But she will give you a 

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different perspective. 
And dude, I fucking found a a 

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point of trauma in my life that 
went back to why I don't trust 

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others. 
Fucking crazy dude. 

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I was 5 kid wanted to write. 
I had this bucket seat big wheel

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and it was metal had a metal 
frame had this cool like 

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rubberized front wheel. 
My parents were poor and 

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somebody gave this to us brand 
new. 

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The wheels were. 
Oh fuck yeah dude, it had one of

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those E brake. 
Things. 

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And it wasn't plastic by any 
means, but I was a nice little 

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kid and we were living in this 
Section 8 housing area. 

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And this kid asked me if he 
could ride it. 

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Sure. 
And he goes, you can ride mine 

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because I trusted him. 
I got on this tricycle and I 

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start pedaling. 
It didn't have a back wheel on 

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the left side and it fell over. 
I fell forward curb check 

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myself. 
These two front teeth went this 

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way. 
The other side ones went that 

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way. 
So I knocked all the teeth out 

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and the teeth sliced my lip 
open. 

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Oh. 
Yeah. 

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And I come and suck like this 
because blood was just pouring 

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out. 
I mean, I was like, Oh my gosh, 

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yeah. 
I cover my mouth. 

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I'm not crying. 
I come inside and my mom is on 

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the phone. 
She's got 70s curly hair. 

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I swear to God she's wearing a 
moo moo. 

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She's probably going to kill me.
No, she could have been wearing 

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like some pastel looking fucking
pants and like some old school 

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like 70s cowboy looking shirt 
where people used to wear all 

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the time. 
Anyways, she's standing there on

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the phone and what's the one 
thing you're told when you're a 

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kid? 
Don't bother your parent when 

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they're on the phone. 
Yep, don't talk to me, I'm on 

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the phone. 
Leave me alone, I'm on the 

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phone. 
Trying to get my mom's attention

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and she's what? 
Splash? 

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My entire child mouth was full 
of blood and it came out like 

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that. 
My mom dropped the phone, picked

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me up and took me to the sink. 
And from that day on, dude, I 

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just didn't trust people. 
But I didn't know that until she

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took me through my first 
session. 

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Fuck. 
That's crazy. 

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And I was like, oh, and she 
goes, now you can let it go. 

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And I'm like, and this guy, 
another coach, he's he's in 

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Arizona. 
He started crying because he was

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working with her with him and 
telling him he's like, when I 

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was a kid, I got tickets to the 
circus and I'm so excited about 

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him. 
And then I put him away. 

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But I, I think my, my mom put 
him somewhere else. 

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And the day that the scout 
leader who gave me these tickets

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was like, OK, let's go bring 
your tickets. 

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Couldn't find my tickets. 
Didn't get to go. 

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And then this is what he said. 
He goes, I prayed and you 

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remember this thing that the 
constant thing with Christians 

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is believing that if I pray it 
will become and he prayed to 

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find his tickets and he didn't 
find his tickets. 

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Oh yeah. 
And you know what he did? 

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He's like, right then and there,
my relationship with God 

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changed. 
Yeah. 

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And you know what? 
It reminded me of Grandpa's 

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story about the nickel. 
Yeah, 'cause it was like, oh, I 

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prayed and I found it. 
And that changed his 

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relationship with God, but 100%.
Right. 

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And it was. 
But see, I think that's why I 

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never felt like I believed in 
it, because that's what my 

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parents would tell me. 
Oh, you lost something? 

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Go pray for it. 
OK, cool. 

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Well, I did. 
And I searched for hours and I 

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prayed for it and nothing 
changed. 

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Nothing happened. 
OK, well, that's like the same 

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thing in my mind of realizing, 
well, that's like all these kids

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who get molested or abused or 
people who are raped and beaten,

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praying to God, help me save me,
and nothing happens. 

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Because if God really were to 
come down and go, here's your 

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keys, here's the thing you lost 
here, you're free. 

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Like everyone's prayers would be
like changing in reality. 

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Exactly. 
And that's why I don't believe 

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in praying. 
But they've done studies on that

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too. 
And it's like, it's great 

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because it makes people feel 
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But the science at the end of 
the day shows that it doesn't 

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change what the outcome is. 
I I think it's something that's 

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more philosophical than it is 
anything else. 

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A. 100% and. 
That's where I think it gets 

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the. 
Lines people feel better. 

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Well, it is. 
I mean, it is. 

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Which is OK. 
Like it's OK that it helps them 

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feel better, but is looking at 
it as like this? 

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Is really good by the way. 
You know, but like, if you 

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taught your kids, hey, if you 
lose something, you pray to God 

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and it'll help you find it 
versus like, you know, you're 

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probably going to keep looking 
and you're going to find it 

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eventually because you're going 
to go, what was the last place I

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did? 
Like, you're going to think 

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about it. 
And eventually it's like, well, 

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I've looked everywhere. 
Yeah, you've looked everywhere 

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except where it was, obviously. 
It did. 

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The best line that I've ever 
heard about that was in the 

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movie Pulp Fiction, and there's 
a scene where this guy comes 

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out, shoots at John Travolta and
Samuel Jackson, and he doesn't 

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hit him once. 
And they look at themselves and 

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then they look at the guy and 
he's got this giant 357 long 

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barrel magnum and dude, those 
bullets would have ripped off 

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limbs. 
And they're like and they kill 

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him, but when they turn around, 
all the bullets are right where 

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they are. 
OK. 

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So after that, Samuel Jackson's 
guy's like God did that and John

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Travolta's like, no dude, that 
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just happened. 
And he goes, no, he goes, that 

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was divine intervention. 
And he goes, Jesus Christ, he 

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goes, don't say that bad. 
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like, you can't curse, right? 
You you can't say a word because

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that means something that can 
hurt and offend the creator or 

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whatever. 
And so he says he goes, he's 

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like, he goes, that's not, he 
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the same as if God, you know, 
change Coke to Pepsi. 

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Found your fucking car keys. 
I mean, he's like, and that's 

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the thing that I, I associated 
like when I was a kid going to 

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LDS church and I would hear 
somebody, they, they will have a

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fast testimony meeting where 
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typical church in different wing
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where they go up and they, they 
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Any other one? 
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I've seen it a few and where, 
you know, people come up or they

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can say something about, you 
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And that's where these the 
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do this. 
But I would hear stories like I 

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couldn't find my pet turtle and 
then I prayed and I've had the 

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turtle or something like that. 
And I, I, I don't believe that, 

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you know, you should limit your 
prayer to anything. 

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You pray wherever you want. 
But The thing is, is I use it 

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for a different reason. 
And it really helps me where I'm

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just like, I need you to slow 
down and I need you to focus on 

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being relaxed and being OK 
because being mad doesn't get 

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you there. 
So for me, prayer helps me to 

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get me down to a space or it 
make if I feel so grateful and I

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have no one to tell it to, I'll 
just pray. 

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Yeah, see for. 
Me, it was different because 

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after I left Christianity, 
because I did. 

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Yeah, you did a bunch of stuff. 
Yeah, well, I left Mormonism 

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because I studied that and 
nothing actually felt right. 

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I did what they told me to. 
Or it was like, you pray about 

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this after you study it, you 
know, read the Book of Mormon, 

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pray about it. 
And I read the original print of

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the Book of Mormon and I prayed 
about it. 

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And I got this overwhelming 
feeling of gross disgust that I 

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have been lied to and that this 
was a bunch of shit. 

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And I was like, cool. 
Well, so I did what the church 

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taught me. 
I did what my entire life had 

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taught me. 
And the feeling came out of it 

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was, this is a bunch of shit. 
And I was like, cool. 

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So I did what you told me to. 
And what I've learned through 

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doing what that is, is we base 
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And the feeling I got was this 
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So I can either follow a lie 
according to my feelings, 'cause

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that's what we follow, or I can 
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And I went to something 
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idea that God wasn't real or 
Jesus wasn't real, that couldn't

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like that never crossed my mind.
And then I did LSD and it was 

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like, yeah, I know that concept 
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That doesn't make any sense. 
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of praying was like, I don't 
even when it's been really hard,

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like, OK, I was worried about my
dad dying or, you know, grandpa 

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died. 
All these moments where usually 

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I think as a human, I might have
turned to prayer. 

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I didn't have that. 
But it was like, I didn't feel 

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like I was alone in that because
I didn't have someone to pray 

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to. 
It was more like it's just 

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changed because before it was 
like, OK, I prayed, you know, 

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when I was really struggling 
with divorce or something else 

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like, oh, God, help me with 
this, I'll do this. 

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Like, you know, making promises,
justification, like all these 

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shit with God, you know, that 
I'm thinking. 

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And it's like, how many times do
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We bargain with God, we try and 
do these things. 

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Oh, yeah. 
OK. 

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And how many times have I prayed
for change or this or that And 

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it like that didn't come. 
And it was like, all right, 

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well, and then the realization 
of like, well, I could pray for 

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my keys or these people could 
pray for this. 

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But really, does that? 
Does he come down and change 

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that? 
No. 

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OK, so like, what is this? 
And if I'm not believing in this

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concept of this, what in the 
hell am I talking to? 

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You know, I, I totally get that 
and. 

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But for others like there's that
connection, it's that piece. 

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They get something from that and
that's that's fine. 

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They get their value that they 
need, but. 

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Well, I mean, even though. 
That wasn't there. 

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Going back to and and that's 
exactly what it is, man. 

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I mean, it's it's for it's for 
you, right? 

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I don't believe in a right or 
wrong when it comes to 

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somebody's faith. 
It's just the way that they. 

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Express it, they feel a 
connection of what that but it's

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total. 
It's not right or wrong for 

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them. 
It's just when everyone else is 

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like this is right or wrong. 
No, this is totally. 

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What truth versus you know 
which. 

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Is funny because you know, 
Christianity goes into agency. 

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It's not just a Mormon aspect, 
it's a Christian aspect. 

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But it's like, but this is The 
funny thing that you're exactly 

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right. 
It's agency. 

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Agency. 
No, it's their perceived agency.

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It's a buzzword for them because
here's what they do with it. 

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They did exactly what you said. 
They bargain with God, and I 

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don't bargain with God. 
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just like, hey, I'm I'm trying 
to understand me. 

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I don't I can't do anything 
about that. 

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And it helps me to slow down. 
There's been instances in my 

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life you. 
Always prayed like that. 

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No, it's gotten better over 
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I I have more thoughtfulness in 
it, but I invest into my faith 

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and my faith isn't a book or 
somebody else's that's. 

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What you believe because that's 
what you feel. 

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Yeah, I actually, I mean, for 
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completely honest, it wouldn't 
matter if I was in like Tibet 

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and there wasn't a Mormon church
around. 

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I would probably be more 
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right? 
Or Taoism? 

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It's like, OK, so the movie 
Heretic Man, that just came out 

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recently. 
Yeah, totally. 

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They brought a very, the very 
introduction brought a very good

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point up. 
And it was the two Mormon 

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missionaries out there and they 
were talking and the 1 turned to

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the other. 
And she's like, you know, it's 

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interesting that we believe this
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any other religion or any other 
situation, we would have grown 

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up knowing or learning that this
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Yet in this one, it's real. 
But it's the same with every 

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other religion in that it's 
like, you grow up in this one 

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and this is the truth because 
this is what we're taught from a

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young age. 
So it's just what we know. 

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So we believe it because it's 
what is familiar. 

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It's what's around. 
It's what. 

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And so, you know, any reality is
going to be tied to that and the

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things that we feel or that will
be tied to these things we're 

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taught and learn and, you know, 
because that's what's around. 

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And the thing that I, I find 
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those who are gravitated to 
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propelled by religion, are they 
just are like, either I was lied

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to or something like that. 
But again, that's, that's the 

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hypocrisy that I see a lot in 
faith with people is that 

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they're just like, this is true.
And then when somebody questions

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it and they question themselves,
they get angry when I know 

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something, if somebody came to 
me and said, you don't love your

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wife and you cheat on her all 
the time, I would laugh. 

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I'd be be like, no, I don't, 
that's ridiculous. 

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And they would be like, yeah, I 
saw you and I'm like, clearly 

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you're disturbed and I'm OK with
that. 

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I'm so sorry. 
Would you like to smoke some of 

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this lovely bud with me? 
I would be more like that 

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because I don't. 
I know that for me, that's my 

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belief and that's what I hold 
true. 

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And I've never done anything to 
be able to do that. 

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So I know my own character, so I
can go, look, it's OK if I 

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believe in something and 
somebody else doesn't. 

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And if somebody else comes to me
and says that's not true and let

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me tell you why, well then I 
feel bad for them because they 

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just want to prove that they're 
right and I'm wrong and I don't 

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care. 
Most of those, well, because the

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only ones who do it are those 
who have left the religion. 

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And so when they look at it, 
it's like, I mean, it boggled my

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mind, especially when we had 
discussions and it was like, 

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wait, you've read these same 
things and you still believe it.

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It was a a weird way of like my 
brain doesn't really comprehend 

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because with me understanding 
that, my brain cannot believe 

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that. 
Yeah, your brain can believe it 

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when it sees those same things. 
So from for me or for someone in

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that instance, it's really hard 
to look at it and go, my mind 

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can't comprehend how your mind 
works in that process. 

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I'm sure it's the same way with 
vice versa, but it's like, yeah,

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like I, I don't fully, you know.
Well, again, it's it's the idea 

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of absolute fallacy. 
The absolute fallacy is that you

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have more information than the 
other person, but the reality 

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is, is that their reality is not
your reality. 

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So you can't say that they're 
wrong. 

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What I have a problem with is 
when other people such as well. 

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It's when they come of like, so 
I think the issue with people 

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who have left the church is they
come in and it's like most 

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Mormons say, this is the true 
church. 

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Most. 
Most Mormons. 

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So for most people on the other 
side, it's going well, you're 

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exactly. 
So then it's going, you're 

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telling me that you're right and
I'm going, well, I've seen the 

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other side of the coin and 
you're telling me you're right. 

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But yeah, you haven't looked at 
the other side of the coin. 

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So. 
Look at both sides before you 

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tell me you're right. 
Well, exactly and. 

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Until you've looked at both 
sides, you can't tell me 

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anything 'cause you haven't even
looked at the other side. 

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There's very few things in this 
world that are like true. 

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Yeah, but that's that's the hard
part with most religious ones is

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like even having discussions 
with my dad, there's so much of 

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the other side of the coin that 
I'm like, you've not you can't 

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have a discussion on this 
because you one have never 

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researched it, haven't studied, 
know absolutely nothing about 

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this side of the coin. 
So how can you have an educated 

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discussion on something you know
nothing about? 

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But The thing is, is that on 
their side, what they're seeing 

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is from their belief, and a lot 
of it can be where the. 

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Belief says don't look at the 
other side of. 

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The no, I know and it's funny, 
right? 

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It's, it's exactly that there. 
The, it's a contradiction right 

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there in front of them. 
When you try to challenge it, 

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they go, no, no, no. 
Let me tell you why I'm I'm 

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right instead of saying, hey, 
look, I don't understand why 

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it's so important for you to be 
concerned about my faith and my 

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beliefs. 
Well, it's like your politics 

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with your brother. 
Yeah. 

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He was like, you had to explain 
to him, well, maybe there's 

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these things that you don't 
understand or didn't know. 

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And he was like, oh, 'cause he 
didn't research, didn't look, he

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didn't look at the other side of
that coin. 

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Of course. 
And that's it. 

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You know, it's how many of us 
look at one side of a coin and 

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then try and make a 
determination, a a, you know, 

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well, it's a decision off of 
this is what's right. 

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It's like what W ignorance said,
right? 

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If I hold this up, you're only 
seeing 1 angle. 

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And your perception of what this
thing is is different than my 

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perception. 
You, you see one, I see two, I 

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see three sides, you see one 
side, maybe 2. 

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So you know, that's. 
Then it's like the color, the 

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shape, what I might see is I see
a sun, I see that you see a box 

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with words on it. 
Like there's these different 

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things that it's 100% perception
and you know, reality even like 

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the talking about how much of 
perception of reality we 

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actually even view in that, you 
know, And so, but that's the 

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thing I don't like, I, I like 
discussions where it's like 

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people can see both sides and 
look at it 'cause it's like the 

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hardest part I have with most. 
I don't like talking religion 

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unless someone else brings it 
up. 

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If they want to discuss it. 
Most of the time, sure, let's 

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get into that. 
But most of the time because I 

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feel like. 
A lot of times it's 

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argumentative though. 
Yes, but I've looked at so many 

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sides of the coin, of lots of 
coins, and then I get in these 

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conversations with some and 
they've only looked at one coin 

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from one side. 
And I'm like, I don't, I don't 

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appreciate these conversations 
usually because they have a hard

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time eating. 
Tell them that no. 

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I I don't know, 'cause I don't 
want to be an asshole. 

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No, you're not being an asshole.
It's like, you know it, it it 

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truly is this does this dress 
make me look fat? 

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If you lie to them and they go 
out and some people are like. 

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But I'm not lying to them. 
I'm just not going, no. 

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No, no, no, I'm not saying 
you're lying to him, but by not 

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telling him that you have an 
issue with that, 'cause I get 

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that. 
Like my brother just cuts on me 

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and my and I was like, Hey, I 
know what you're trying to do 

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and I don't appreciate it. 
I don't care that you're have an

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opinion about it, but it's like 
you're trying to convince me and

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the dude it's it's not, It's 
not. 

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Usually my family we don't 
discuss religion. 

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No, they don't. 
Because. 

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My family. 
Thomas is religious, his wife is

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religious, Stacy's religious and
my parents are religious. 

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But now I've got half of my 
other siblings who aren't really

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religious. 
And so, you know, it's just we 

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all have varying beliefs and 
that's OK, but most of the time 

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because there is such a drastic 
difference in that. 

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It's like your concept of 
church, dude. 

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Like, you know what? 
The idea of churches, it's not 

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confined. 
Yeah, it's exactly that. 

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The word church is a it's like 
the word scuttlebutt. 

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You know what scuttlebutt means?
No, it's a rumor. 

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What? 
Why don't you just say rumor? 

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It was an old word, right, That 
was used in the military that 

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they got from somebody here. 
So when somebody would have a 

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scuttlebutt, it was a rumor. 
Also, it's a water fountain. 

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Yep. 
Like a drinking. 

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Fountain. 
Yeah. 

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Drinking fountain, Right. 
You know what the bright works 

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are? 
All the shiny stuff in the 

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bathroom. 
They call it bright works. 

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Not, not the faucets. 
The bright works. 

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Floors, a deck, ceilings, 
overhead walls are bulkheads. 

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And whatever the names are, it's
just a different lexicon of 

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words. 
That's all it is. 

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And then when people start 
getting so like, Nope, this is 

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it. 
I find that there's a lot of 

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fear in that person when 
somebody gets defensive about 

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their faith and wants to argue 
about it about their right. 

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I typically find those people 
have a lot of questions about 

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their own faith and they should 
explore that because that's why 

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I'm still like that. 
When you ask that, you're like, 

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hey, you know, I still like 
everything that I've researched 

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and all that. 
But then you've told me it's the

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community. 
It is the community and it's the

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experiences I've had in that 
community. 

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And that's like that's 
understandable. 

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And I feel bad that a lot of 
people have not had that same 

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experience. 
Oh yeah, like I never, I didn't 

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have a good experience. 
Like church was fine. 

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Yeah, you just. 
Had a a a it was like a a 

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experience. 
It wasn't I loved. 

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Scouts. 
I loved Scouts. 

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Yeah. 
You camping? 

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I did Outdoors but. 
You were in the times of like 

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when when scouts was awesome it.
Was huge, yeah. 

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And I never got diddled so it 
wasn't like good for you. 

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Fucking awkward and I know 
they're like that, but that 

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happens everywhere. 
I know it's not scouts. 

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It's like it happens in 
everything there's. 

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Yeah, everyone. 
A bunch of fucking degenerates. 

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Yeah, so I'm like it. 
I loved that aspect of it. 

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I loved going to Young Men's 
'cause it was hanging out with 

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friends. 
It's a community. 

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But past that, the religious 
side, I never, I never felt it. 

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I never like, I prayed. 
We did all this stuff. 

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I went to church. 
I did everything I was supposed 

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to. 
And then it was like, I never 

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felt that connection until I 
left Mormonism. 

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Yeah. 
Totally. 

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And that's the and. 
Then I found it in Christianity 

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and it was like this, that thing
that like overwhelming feeling 

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of like you, God, spirit, 
whatever the like, totally feel.

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I felt that there. 
And it was like this 

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overwhelming feeling of like 
feeling accepted, feeling loved.

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Yeah. 
And it was. 

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And I I didn't stop going 
because I didn't like the church

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or the community. 
No you just your beliefs 

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changed. 
I was like, I don't like, I 

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loved my pastors. 
I loved the people there. 

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Truly, it felt like a community.
Yeah, they loved you. 

448
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,640
And it was amazing. 
And I mixed church for them 

449
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,920
every week. 
Like it was fantastic. 

450
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:22,600
But then when my belief around 
God changed, I was like, I, I 

451
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,120
can't go to this and. 
Which is honorable that you say 

452
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:29,120
that because, I mean, you know, 
I worked with this one guy 

453
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,760
'cause you made me think about 
this guy. 

454
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,880
And, and I apologize if I cut 
you off. 

455
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:39,200
But this guy, Trevor, he we work
together and because he looked 

456
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,280
very LDSI thought I had to act 
very LDS because it was in an 

457
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,680
office. 
So I'm like, yeah, I can't be. 

458
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,200
Totally. 
Understandable. 

459
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,680
And the guy who had hired me to 
this company, he had the 

460
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,440
appearance that he was very LDS,
but he wasn't. 

461
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,520
And this guy was over there and 
I was like, oh, yeah. 

462
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,000
And I was like, I was just 
trying to bond with him. 

463
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000
And he just seemed kind of like,
uptight. 

464
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,760
Yeah. 
And I say, sitting on a stick. 

465
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,320
Hey, did you ever hear about 
this talk? 

466
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,680
It was a really good one. 
And I actually liked this talk. 

467
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,960
And I said, do you ever hear of 
that? 

468
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,400
He goes, let me be honest with 
you. 

469
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,560
I'm an atheist, and I only go to
church to keep my wife happy 

470
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,680
because I don't want to lose 
her. 

471
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,000
And it means a lot to her. 
He's like. 

472
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,520
And if that means I get to go to
church every week for three 

473
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,800
hours, maybe even do a calling, 
you know what? 

474
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,680
They're all nice to me and I'm 
nice to them, but I don't 

475
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240
believe in it. 
And I was like, wow. 

476
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,280
And you know, I think a lot of 
people are like that. 

477
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,320
They just go because. 
They do, but I see that in lots 

478
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,120
of them. 
And you know, exactly and a lot.

479
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,120
That's that's when you see them 
there and I'm like, it's all the

480
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,520
people with their heads down on 
the pews, all on their phone. 

481
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520
They're there to check the box. 
They're there not because they 

482
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,040
really want to be or because 
they believe. 

483
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,800
They're just there. 
And that's what I noticed so 

484
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,080
much of church was. 
But then the Christian Church, 

485
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,640
everyone was there because they 
wanted to be. 

486
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,680
No one was there because it was 
like, I'm going to feel guilty. 

487
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,040
My neighbor, where were you? 
We missed like, why weren't you 

488
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960
at church? 
None of that. 

489
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,680
Ever. 
But this is so funny, dude. 

490
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,760
Like it's the indoctrination 
that the earlier church members 

491
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,000
like. 
And I'm saying earlier, like you

492
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,360
really started to see that when 
more, I mean, it became a state 

493
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,720
and then more people started to 
move out here and there was more

494
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,080
diversity. 
There was people there that 

495
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,880
weren't LDS and in order for 
them to insulate and protect 

496
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,400
themselves because they had 
protected themselves from 

497
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,160
everybody else, they were in a 
territory. 

498
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,520
All of a sudden now they're 
like, they became like hyper 

499
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,440
evangelical. 
And that thing that you said 

500
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,600
that reminded me of my buddy 
growing up in Mapleton, and this

501
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,680
is Mapleton in the 80s. 
So there is nothing out there. 

502
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,000
Yeah, right. 
Going to town was Springville. 

503
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,560
And if anybody lives in Utah and
you go down to town in 

504
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320
Springfield State, Springville, 
Maine. 

505
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,160
Oh, in Maine. 
Yeah, like all the teeny little 

506
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,720
shops and stuff like that. 
Yeah, that was going to town. 

507
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,680
And for him, like they just they
anyways, there was a new family 

508
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,320
that moved into their 
neighborhood and this is when 

509
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,640
his family left the church. 
There was a new family in there.

510
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,800
They were bat. 
They were Baptist. 

511
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,120
How did that go? 
Everybody on Sunday would make 

512
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:29,360
it a point to walk in front of 
their house to show them that 

513
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,160
this is where we're going. 
Follow. 

514
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,000
Us. 
And I thought that was he, he 

515
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,200
said. 
I thought that was the most 

516
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,040
disingenuous thing. 
He's like, I was 13. 

517
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,600
I was active in the church. 
My dad saw that his dad was so 

518
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,000
inferior to he was a professor 
at a university here in Utah for

519
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,400
many years. 
And literally after that, he 

520
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,960
they didn't go to church. 
And then weeks later he burned 

521
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,440
all of his garments. 
He's like, I don't force people 

522
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,440
to do that and I don't course 
people into it. 

523
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,800
He goes, I came into the faith 
because I wanted to. 

524
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,920
This is not what I signed up 
for. 

525
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,680
And because of that action, they
parted. 

526
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,840
Now, weird thing. 
He married an LDS woman, a very 

527
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,880
LDS woman, very active in the 
church. 

528
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,280
All of his kids baptized him. 
He has never been a part of the 

529
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,160
church, ever. 
It's so that's. 

530
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,360
And that's his. 
Thing I think that's kind of 

531
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,840
hard. 
So like my my brother's still 

532
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040
married to his wife and they 
they're great. 

533
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,400
I love his wife dearly. 
Yeah, she's great. 

534
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,760
She is. 
She's actually. 

535
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,720
She's so fun. 
I'm. 

536
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,680
Not going to say this. 
Yeah, I love her to death. 

537
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,720
I was like, I'm going to say 
she's my favorite in law because

538
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,920
she is, but I'm going to cut 
that out. 

539
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,760
But yeah, basically like so 
their their young youngest just 

540
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,600
got baptized, but that's 
something that like I know he 

541
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,320
still struggles with and like 
it's something that I don't 

542
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,120
like. 
My ex-wife got her kids baptized

543
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,640
but that's because she told me, 
well, it only needs one parent's

544
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,600
signature and I'm getting them 
baptized anyway. 

545
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,560
So since we were divorced and 
she lived in another state, 

546
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,560
didn't really matter what I 
wanted or said. 

547
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,880
And she told me the kids were 
too scared to talk to me about 

548
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,560
it when the kids told me later 
that she just told them that. 

549
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,280
This is what we're doing. 
And they probably shouldn't talk

550
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,360
to me about it. 
And yet none of my kids have any

551
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,840
desire to be religious. 
Well, and and you know, again, 

552
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,840
it's it's this perception, 
right? 

553
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,480
She wanted the perception like 
I'm doing the right thing. 

554
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,760
But honestly, baptism needs to 
be look at like, you know, if 

555
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,440
somebody does that, I look at 
the same way of getting 

556
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680
piercing, like that's your 
choice. 

557
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,400
It's your choice. 
And even if somebody's coursing 

558
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,600
into it, it's your choice. 
But you know what? 

559
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,920
It's not permanent. 
If you don't want it to be, it 

560
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,720
really isn't. 
That's what I'm like, you know, 

561
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,760
with him, as the kids get older,
you know, they can have more 

562
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,280
conversations. 
And if they choose that they 

563
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,320
want to stay or go, that is 
their choice. 

564
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,120
You know, and, and we can honor 
any way they want to, Yeah. 

565
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,880
And that's OK, you know, and 
that's what I like to do. 

566
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,040
That's why I like our 
relationship so much. 

567
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,120
And is because one I I don't 
yuck your yums dude. 

568
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,320
I think it's great how you think
and how you are. 

569
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,640
And I don't think that I am 
right and that you're wrong. 

570
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,880
I I just know this makes me 
happy. 

571
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Well, and I know that at the end
of the day, both of us just 

572
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,640
really care about people and 
treat them good, and that's 

573
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,720
really what I think is 
important. 

574
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,800
There are a lot of people out 
there that that idolize certain 

575
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,200
people. 
Like, remember when I was in the

576
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,080
Navy and guys were like 
idolizing Scottie Pippen and 

577
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,720
Michael? 
Jordan. 

578
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,400
Oh yeah, I fucking love. 
I love Michael Jordan, right? 

579
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,280
I used to idolize him. 
Right. 

580
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,920
They were like, oh, they're my 
heroes. 

581
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,920
And somebody had asked me they'd
go, who's your hero? 

582
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,640
And I'm like my dad. 
He immigrated to this country. 

583
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,960
He didn't swim or climb over a 
fence. 

584
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920
He came here legally. 
He worked his ass off to learn 

585
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,400
the language and everybody gave 
me shit because I didn't speak 

586
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,040
Spanish. 
Do you? 

587
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Want to be like your dad when 
you were growing up? 

588
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,040
No. 
OK. 

589
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,360
Not at all. 
I always wanted to be like my 

590
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520
dad. 
No, it was because we were 

591
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520
completely different people. 
My dad's a quiet guy. 

592
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,440
I am not a quiet person. 
Never have been. 

593
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,400
I don't you. 
Know not like that. 

594
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,520
I don't even, I don't think I 
gave it that much thought on 

595
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,560
like I want to be the type of 
person he is. 

596
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,480
But it was always like when my 
dad was a mailman and I was 

597
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,600
super little. 
I wanted to be mailman. 

598
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,040
Oh dude, when I was a little 
kid. 

599
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,120
When I was like 1011 and he 
worked at RC Willey, I wanted to

600
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,640
work at RC Willey. 
And then he was a handyman and 

601
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,640
did his own business. 
I wanted to do that. 

602
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,440
And then he was a contractor. 
And they're like, oh, I want to 

603
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,040
do that. 
Wasn't until I was like a 

604
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,360
freshman in high school and I 
was decently good at arguing. 

605
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,120
And I was good at arguing even 
with my parents. 

606
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,840
And my parents were like, oh, 
yeah, you should be an attorney.

607
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680
And I was like, I might be like,
I would like that. 

608
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,720
I would enjoy arguing with 
people potentially for a living.

609
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080
And then I was like when I 
learned that most of it was 

610
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,520
actually studying like all of 
that, not the actual arguing 

611
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,640
time. 
And then the more I studied law 

612
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:05,120
after, the more I hate law. 
It would have a zero desire to 

613
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,520
ever be a fucking attorney. 
But but most of my childhood, I 

614
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,480
wanted to be like my dad. 
You know, what he was doing was 

615
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,040
like, Oh, this is this is who I 
want to be when I grow. 

616
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,320
Up seeing your dad must have 
shown some type of of excitement

617
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880
doing it. 
You know, my dad, my dad worked 

618
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,400
hard at all the jobs that he 
did, but he never enjoyed his 

619
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,360
jobs. 
So I think that's a big reason 

620
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,280
why, like when when you mention 
that when you're like a little 

621
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,400
kid, like it brought me back to 
a moment where my dad, it wasn't

622
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480
what he was doing to provide for
the family. 

623
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,920
It was this like the smell of 
gasoline and oil. 

624
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,920
The nostalgia stuff that like. 
He he worked on a car until like

625
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,360
2:00 in the morning with his 
friend and I stayed on the couch

626
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,320
waiting up for him as a little. 
I was like 5. 

627
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,840
Yeah, see my. 
And he picked me up and he took 

628
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,880
me in my bed. 
And I remember his hints and. 

629
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,000
The smell, yeah. 
Yeah, and, and I have almost 

630
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,400
identical to my dad's hands. 
I mean, his hands are a lot 

631
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,480
smaller than mine, but in that 
dude, he is just like, there was

632
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,440
something about that that I 
wanted to be a a strong worker. 

633
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,360
So that's a lot of the reasons 
why I enjoy mechanic work, 

634
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,840
because it reminds me that my 
dad taught me a lot of these 

635
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,960
things and then your brother 
taught me a shit. 

636
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,920
Load. 
Oh my God, cars right? 

637
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Yeah, he's so fucking smart. 
And now that's why I'm able to 

638
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,640
fix my cars. 
You know, like when somebody 

639
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,720
goes, dude, you got to get a new
car and I'm like, no, I don't 

640
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,360
like a $16.00 part and some 
fucking elbow grease. 

641
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880
So let's get this shit done. 
Like fucking fix it. 

642
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,920
It's not going to. 
Fix it myself. 

643
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,680
Yeah, for real. 
Right, I'll watch YouTube but. 

644
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,680
I think I don't know if it was 
like my dad taught me hard work 

645
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,800
from when I was really little 
and it was like I remember being

646
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:54,520
5 and wedding the not wedding 
they'd just we'd just built the 

647
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,640
home we were putting in the 
garden that year and they had 

648
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,920
roaded tilt the entire thing. 
But Grandview had tons of rocks.

649
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,080
Oh yeah, dude. 
And he was like, all right, 

650
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,880
horrible. 
We had to carry these 5 gallon 

651
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,640
buckets all the way up and down 
the garden and pick up rocks and

652
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,480
we had to do the entire garden. 
Now it the garden was literally 

653
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,560
the entire length of the whole 
backyard. 

654
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,040
Jesus, which was the house next 
door to my parents and other 

655
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,560
house. 
And that was a long ass garden 

656
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,560
and it was ours. 
And I remember being like 5, 

657
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,480
maybe even 4 because it was 
probably 4. 

658
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,360
And my parents going, yeah, no, 
you don't get dinner unless you 

659
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800
do this. 
And we don't get dinner until 

660
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,200
it's done. 
And if you don't do this, you 

661
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,880
don't eat. 
And but you worked hard. 

662
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,440
You worked fast. 
Like we laid, like we laid our 

663
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,000
whole backyard with grass. 
Like I was. 

664
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240
I've been working on shit since 
I was since I could. 

665
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,200
Walk, you know. 
And so it was like, my dad has 

666
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,400
crackhead speed that just is 
like constant. 

667
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,600
Yeah, he's always been like. 
That from like 6:00 in the 

668
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,880
morning till long past it's 
dark. 

669
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240
It's like Curtis, dude. 
Curtis can go forever. 

670
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,200
But that it's elder energy. 
Like my sister's the same way. 

671
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,080
She, she's a nurse, she works 12
hour shifts. 

672
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,040
And then after that, outside of 
that, she calls patients back 

673
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,639
for patient verification 'cause 
she was like, well I have time. 

674
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:13,679
I don't know what else I'm 
doing. 

675
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,239
She crochets constantly, 
blankets characters for friends.

676
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,679
Like she's been doing this for 
years. 

677
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,880
So her crocheting is incredible.
Like she's always. 

678
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,080
She's a busy body. 
But that's where I'm like most 

679
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,880
elders are. 
When I look at my uncle's, when 

680
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,560
I look like they have built. 
One of my uncles has the largest

681
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,199
architecture firm here in Utah. 
He builds like they do all the 

682
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,880
temples, they do everything. 
So when my dad went down to 

683
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,880
build a home in Springville and 
it was on a lot on the hill, 

684
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,960
they're like, oh, you can't 
build there. 

685
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,040
And he's like, Bob told me I 
could. 

686
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,520
And they're like, oh, if Bob 
said it's OK, that's fine 

687
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:57,120
because Bob does everything for 
Utah and his whole company. 

688
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,240
Like he's the one who it's his 
company. 

689
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,240
That's pretty cool, dude. 
And yet I have like my other 

690
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:06,800
uncle, I have two uncles that 
have been like really high at Nu

691
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,160
Skin for 30 plus years, like sea
level and stuff. 

692
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Like they're crazy and they've 
been or like one of them's the 

693
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,760
VP of like their warehouse side 
and the other ones on the sea 

694
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,880
level on the front end, no. 
That's cool, dude. 

695
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:22,480
Like everyone is just crazy 
energy crazy. 

696
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,360
Like go, go, go do this. 
And like, you know, so they 

697
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,040
always have crazy big dreams. 
They're always doing tons of 

698
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,720
shit and you know. 
Yeah, the one thing that I 

699
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:36,320
picked up from my dad was I 
didn't put up with anybody shit 

700
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,680
because I did. 
I mean, my dad worked, but my 

701
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,440
dad and never enjoyed his work 
ever in his life. 

702
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,640
Never 'cause he just did the 
job. 

703
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,760
I mean, he he was disadvantaged 
in some ways. 

704
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,040
I mean, he had the grit to be 
able to put the work in, but 

705
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,320
education was hard. 
I. 

706
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,600
Mean he got from a whole 
different country. 

707
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,960
Well, and and he just a 
different idea. 

708
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,640
So this whole episode wasn't 
even supposed to be about this 

709
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,000
no Thanksgiving one. 
But this is good. 

710
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,240
We're just flowing with. 
It great because I really wanted

711
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:12,080
to ask about that. 
So with your dad growing up in 

712
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:18,960
Mexico and you said like that. 
So Thanksgiving, it's today they

713
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,480
did. 
Your dad, they didn't celebrate 

714
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,760
Thanksgiving. 
No, that was an American 

715
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,880
holiday. 
Did you grow up like when you 

716
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,400
were young because your mom was 
from? 

717
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,920
Oh, no, we did. 
We did all the holidays. 

718
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,400
My parents got married on 
Christmas Eve and yeah, that's 

719
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,960
terrible. 
Yeah, they really fucked that 

720
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,360
up. 
Yeah, but I don't understand 

721
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,880
that. 
Get married on a holiday. 

722
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,160
That just makes it more 
complicated and people are not 

723
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,000
going to be able to. 
I mean, if you want them to be 

724
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,840
there, it's even more fucking 
difficult. 

725
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,840
Like I'm going to get 
inconvenient you. 

726
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,920
I got married close to a holiday
but it never falls on the 

727
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,960
holiday and. 
That's leap year. 

728
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,800
No, it was like it was in 
November, but it was after 

729
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Thanksgiving and it just. 
Yeah. 

730
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960
That would have been hard. 
But the thing, dude, like 

731
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:11,440
growing up, the culture that my 
dad brought was not a lot. 

732
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,280
My dad is not like when people 
would think like Mexican, when I

733
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,960
would tell him I'm like Mexican.
They're like, well, you're not 

734
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,080
wearing a cowboy hat and you 
don't listen to Banda music all 

735
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,480
the time and you don't dance 
around all the time. 

736
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,400
Like, well, that's a very narrow
idea, who Mexicans are. 

737
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,000
My dad grew up in Mexico City is
one of the largest cities in the

738
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,480
world. 
It's so densely populated and it

739
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,560
was super busy. 
My dad grew up in the streets in

740
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,920
the in the 50s and 60s in the 
streets of Mexico when it was 

741
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,600
barely becoming modernized and 
new things started coming in 

742
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,120
court, including organized 
crime. 

743
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,840
My dad was in lots of street 
fights. 

744
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,800
He'd been in fights in the 
subway. 

745
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,000
He beat up a an actual like 
adult when he was a kid because 

746
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,960
the guy was starting shit with 
him and his friends. 

747
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,880
Like, there's all this crazy 
stuff that he grew up with, but 

748
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,000
my dad never really had 
direction. 

749
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,520
And it reminds me of me. 
I mean, at the age of 14, he was

750
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,760
kicked out of school because he 
was flirting with girls and not 

751
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,920
paying attention. 
In Mexico at that time, school 

752
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,680
was a privilege, not a right. 
The state didn't go, Your kid 

753
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,760
needs to be in school. 
It's like either you want to be 

754
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,440
in school or you're not. 
So he started working at 14 

755
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,080
instead. 
Came home and and my grandmother

756
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,320
said. 
Well that definitely made it 

757
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,160
harder for education then 
because his education stopped at

758
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,400
14 until he. 
Yep. 

759
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,040
Until he he went. 
To relearn later. 

760
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,040
Well, what had happened is he 
had met some LDS missionaries 

761
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,080
that came to his home. 
What convinced him was that his 

762
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:51,600
stepfather, who had smoked for 
decades like a chimney, they 

763
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,400
came to visit and he believed in
what they said. 

764
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,080
He quit smoking that day, never 
smoked another time again. 

765
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,120
Ever. 
So because he believed you, your

766
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,160
dad was like, oh, that's a huge 
crazy thing. 

767
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,120
He didn't like him. 
I thought that guy was an 

768
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,360
asshole. 
But that's when he converted. 

769
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,560
The whole family saw that as a 
crazy sign and they all 

770
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,160
converted. 
Yeah, that's like my my elder 

771
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,320
family. 
I think they converted after the

772
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,760
great great something 
grandfather on that side sold 

773
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,920
the silver mine deed in park. 
City. 

774
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,480
For like 2 pints of whiskey and 
they're like, we could have 

775
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,840
owned Park City. 
Like that's why my grandma's 

776
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,800
always like, elders are never 
meant to be rich, because no 

777
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,240
one's ever made. 
Yeah, they always lose. 

778
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:41,960
What they've made, yeah, I have 
people like they're all 

779
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,560
millionaires. 
Almost every single one of them 

780
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,960
is a millionaire. 
Like they all do really fucking 

781
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,760
well for themselves, but they're
just not disgustingly rich. 

782
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,120
They're just not like, you know.
They're, yeah, they're. 

783
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,520
They're they're well to do. 
They're well to do. 

784
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,280
That's it. 
They're well off and they 

785
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,600
they'll be OK for their life and
you know, that's it. 

786
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,920
And it's cool because they chose
something that they could be 

787
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,680
passionate about. 
And, and that's the one thing I 

788
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:12,320
will say, like I, I do admire 
during a certain generation of 

789
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,080
kids that would go on LDS 
missions and come back and they 

790
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,640
were hard working, they were 
dedicated, they. 

791
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,520
Because you take a kid who just 
gets out of high school has. 

792
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,720
Well, it used to not be that. 
It used to be 19. 

793
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,840
Yeah, now it's. 
Now it's 18 and and I don't, I, 

794
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,640
I think that's somewhat good 
because yeah, all I knew was 

795
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,920
kids getting pregnant and 
fucking around a lot, right? 

796
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,720
Like that's how I figured. 
Bro, because they're like, well,

797
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,240
if we get them at 18, they're 
less likely to be getting 

798
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,560
married to get pregnant. 
They're just out of high school 

799
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,480
so they're less likely to be 
already on any other trajectory.

800
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,760
So this is the youngest time we 
and get them, yeah, but they're 

801
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,960
also adults. 
So it's. 

802
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,240
But you don't see the same way. 
I mean, you know, there's a big 

803
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,760
reason why that a lot of 
government organizations would 

804
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,000
come to places like BYU and 
recruit. 

805
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,440
My dad went to BYU for a time 
and he was being recruited. 

806
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,080
He got recruited to the CIA and 
he also got recruited to an 

807
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,600
attachment to the Army for their
interrogation division because 

808
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,880
he's and they wanted to use him 
in South America. 

809
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,920
So they're like, we'll pay for 
the rest of your college. 

810
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,800
You'll get this degree and then 
we'll bring you in as a 

811
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,440
translator negotiator. 
And if you don't do well there, 

812
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,160
then we'll put you as an 
interrogator. 

813
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,360
And they were like moving to 
Bogota and stuff like that, like

814
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,840
this is and that was crazy shit.
It's. 

815
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Even like, so all the door to 
door sales, they all stem from 

816
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,600
Utah. 
There are so many like 

817
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,400
missionaries that yeah, because 
it's like, oh, hey, you guys are

818
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,400
great at this. 
You're great at going and 

819
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,920
pulling someone into either 
sales because it's like not 

820
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,800
anymore. 
Not anymore, but it's totally 

821
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,520
different. 
Back in the day now it's like 

822
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,840
you're going to learn how to use
social media, post a TikTok or 

823
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,720
some shit and then go respond to
someone who wants you to come to

824
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:03,480
their house. 
Yeah, it's you don't really 

825
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,600
learn any hard skills. 
You're not breaking out of your 

826
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,440
shell in your comfort zone. 
It's like, OK, like what do you 

827
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,840
do? 
It's like a guy I told you about

828
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,720
Taylor that I worked with in 
sales. 

829
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:17,480
Like he, he had this missionary 
leader that would tell him like 

830
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,120
he was doing like a prep course,
I guess. 

831
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:22,560
I don't know. 
I didn't go on one of those. 

832
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,280
I didn't either. 
I served in the military. 

833
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,400
I enjoyed that and. 
I started having sex and then 

834
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,200
got married so I didn't even. 
Work. 

835
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,880
No, I was doing that too, but I 
didn't get married. 

836
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,000
I was dodging babies in STD's 
like Neo in the Matrix. 

837
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,720
Yeah, but dude it. 
She wouldn't trade my kids for 

838
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,640
anything. 
No, no, no, no of course not 

839
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,760
dude. 
No, I I have 5 of them. 

840
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Oh no, no, that I know. 
You're still married, Yeah. 

841
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,520
No, but I mean no, but it's 
dude, everything, everything. 

842
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,000
It like all comes full circle 
and that's what I love about 

843
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,320
like the differences that we 
have. 

844
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,520
I see that same thing for other 
people. 

845
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,760
You know, there was a one of our
fans, the guy who sent us out 

846
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,000
the books, Wesley. 
Yeah, love you, Sir. 

847
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,040
You know, he posted something 
pretty cool. 

848
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,640
He's like, you know, when I went
around, he's in, he's in New 

849
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,440
Jersey. 
OK, primarily a blue state. 

850
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,320
Yeah. 
He said, you know, I went around

851
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,000
to those I know who voted for 
Trump. 

852
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,480
And I just said, hey, look, even
though we have differences, we, 

853
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,800
we have to still be friends. 
We don't need to let this divide

854
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,320
us. 
Yeah. 

855
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,880
And the comments that were in 
there were like, fuck that. 

856
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,120
No way. 
Fuck that. 

857
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,840
They're the enemy. 
And I was just like, wow. 

858
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,320
And that's. 
What I hate? 

859
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,680
About all those people needed to
get high. 

860
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,720
Yeah, it's smoked some weed. 
It's been since the Hillary 

861
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:42,600
Trump campaign, I feel like that
there's been this polarized 

862
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,640
hatred. 
Yeah. 

863
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,720
Of like everyone. 
I'm like. 

864
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,360
But this has happened before in 
U.S. history, so. 

865
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,600
Probably you know what history 
repeats itself, so it wouldn't 

866
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,560
be surprise. 
It's just the fact that when 

867
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,360
it's in this divide, looking at 
everyone else of like, hey, how 

868
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,120
many friendships truly dissolve 
over some stupid political 

869
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,200
support of like, well, I, I 
voted this because everything in

870
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,520
my life led me to choose this 
decision just the same way as 

871
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,200
everything in your life LED you 
to choose that decision. 

872
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,280
Like, you know, I, I can't 
understand your decisions fully 

873
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,400
because I've never lived every 
moment of your life just the 

874
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,520
same as you never lived every 
moment of mine, right? 

875
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,840
You know, and, and it would be 
ludicrous to think that we would

876
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,480
be able to fully understand that
we just, we can look at and go, 

877
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,040
Hey, I can try and understand 
this the best I can and see them

878
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,960
as a human and go at the end of 
the day, like, are you hurting 

879
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,680
me? 
Am I hurting you? 

880
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,960
Are you hurting someone I love? 
Like physically, are you hurting

881
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,080
someone I love? 
But it was like, like the 

882
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,000
discussion at first you were 
saying, you know, where someone 

883
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,160
was a little intoxicated and was
like, fuck you and getting 

884
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,520
frustrated and you're like, 
wait, wait a second, like what's

885
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,520
going on? 
And it's literally over like a 

886
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560
political decision. 
You're like, wait, well, you 

887
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,800
know, and it was over like 
something that they're 

888
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,320
frustrated and not even 
realizing something of like you 

889
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,560
might be in that same boat and 
they might not even realize 

890
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,960
that. 
And that that was the thing, I 

891
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,200
think what was so, and, and I'm 
glad that I didn't drink at that

892
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,640
time. 
I was like, and I told you I was

893
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,600
like, you know, I told you about
it and you're like, oh, dude, 

894
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,920
that sucks. 
I'm like, no, no, no. 

895
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,480
What was cool about it is that 
all I reaffirmed me is, is that 

896
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,920
I don't ever want to drink again
because I watched somebody who 

897
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,400
is normally just a sweet person 
and maybe they secretly think 

898
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,920
I'm a fucker. 
I don't care. 

899
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,720
They never say it to my face. 
But they're kind. 

900
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,760
Usually they're cordial. 
You don't have to deal with 

901
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,400
that. 
But because of what they 

902
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,280
perceived and they were drunk, 
they decided to be able to 

903
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,360
attack me out of nowhere. 
And I was like, whoa. 

904
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,400
And I didn't, it didn't 
register. 

905
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,200
Like it's like getting punched 
in the face by somebody that you

906
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,320
know, and you're like, wait a 
minute, what's going on? 

907
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:00,800
And I was like, And then she 
said it again. 

908
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,880
The assumptions, it's when we 
make assumptions and Oh, well, I

909
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,400
thought you were, you know. 
Yeah. 

910
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,120
Yeah, exactly. 
But maybe that's not how it was.

911
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,360
And instead of like, assuming 
it, you know, allow them to show

912
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,520
up just how they are and see 
what that is instead of going. 

913
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,120
People to have different 
perspective, you know, I mean 

914
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,680
that's all it was when somebody 
went to the ballot box, it was a

915
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,600
perspective that they have They 
said this is my belief and if 

916
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,640
they didn't and they just said, 
you know what I'm just going to 

917
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:29,840
vote for whoever the people that
I'm around what that one cool. 

918
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,280
That was still their choice. 
So what? 

919
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,400
Who cares? 
And I? 

920
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,320
Think it was a very hard, I know
it was a very hard election for 

921
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,040
a lot of people. 
It was this and. 

922
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,840
I've seen that. 
This goes the same with like 

923
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,720
when Reagan came in, it was 
almost the exact. 

924
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,800
It was very similar because. 
Who is he? 

925
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,880
Carter. 
So he was Carter and a couple of

926
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,480
the guy, but Carter had done 
something very similar to what 

927
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,280
had happened during Biden, 
except it was far worse. 

928
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,360
Fell asleep and did nothing. 
Gas prices were so incredibly 

929
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,520
high. 
You remember these stories. 

930
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,240
You had to wait in line my. 
Yeah, I didn't. 

931
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:10,920
Even my grandma was telling me 
about it. 

932
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,200
And then she was like, we had to
go get gas rations. 

933
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,280
We had to go get food rations. 
And you would go pick them up 

934
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,640
and wait in line to get gas. 
And my grandpa had traded some 

935
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,240
other, I don't know what it was,
products that they had or 

936
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,040
something for some other gas 
rations. 

937
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,800
They took a trip to California 
as a family. 

938
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:33,640
Yeah, but they had to like trade
and bargain dude to do that. 

939
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,680
And I was like, what in the hell
is this time? 

940
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,040
That was their COVID time. 
What did we have? 

941
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:43,600
Toilet paper. 
Yeah, hand sanitizer, like $5 a 

942
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,520
roll or something. 
Oh my God dude that was the 

943
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,200
funniest fucking people. 
Hoarding it and selling it on 

944
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,400
Facebook marketplace. 
It was like everywhere was 

945
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,960
bought out. 
And then they're like oh look, 

946
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,120
my entire garage is stuck pile. 
Do you want a $50 roll of toilet

947
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,960
paper? 
Oh, dude, remember masks, M-95 

948
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:03,320
masks and then now and now 
knowing everything they know, 

949
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,440
they're all jokes, jokes, just 
jokes, people. 

950
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,280
It, it's just, and it was almost
identical. 

951
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,720
But what he had done is he had 
completely gutted the military. 

952
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:18,680
He had turned us into a very 
weak position, unfortunately. 

953
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,720
A flaccid position. 
I would say very limp, leaning 

954
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,320
to the left in a cold state. 
Yeah, so a little shriveled up, 

955
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,680
yeah. 
One hanging lower than the 

956
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,840
other, the ball right but. 
As one does. 

957
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,520
As one does you know which one 
in the comments which one it is 

958
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:42,080
right or left, but you know you 
get but dude, Oh my God, there 

959
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,280
was this thing, man, this this 
thing happened. 

960
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,240
It's very similar to this man. 
It's very similar to this in 

961
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:52,280
Iran. 
There were this time hijackings 

962
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,800
were like all the craze, right? 
There was K Pop, there was 

963
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,200
Backstreet Boys and hijackings, 
and then there was hijackings in

964
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,000
the. 
Late set in hijackings, Yeah. 

965
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,840
OK, Yeah. 
So they would take them and then

966
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,160
they would land. 
And these are the things like 

967
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,480
Dave Chappelle used to joke 
around about it because that's 

968
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,160
what they used to do to be like,
we're going to tell you right 

969
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,320
now we want 500,000 U.S. 
dollars, a way of kill people, 

970
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,800
right? 
Something like that, right? 

971
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,920
And the Dave Chappelle says, and
the guy was Asian and I didn't 

972
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,440
understand why he was talking 
like that. 

973
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,200
This is like, this is funny 
shit, right? 

974
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,840
But you know, it, it, during 
this time there was a lot of 

975
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,400
hostages being taken and there 
was a bunch of Jewish American 

976
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,640
hostages taken. 
And they were in Lebanon, right?

977
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,640
I think it was Lebanon OR Iran. 
I, I can't be 100% sure. 

978
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,000
So this was around the first 
time the Delta Force, the 

979
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,120
special forces team that was 
completely blacklisted, like you

980
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,000
didn't know it existed. 
If you got invited to it, it was

981
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,320
just a different type of army. 
I've read a lot of stuff about 

982
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,120
this, especially when I was 
younger when the books weren't 

983
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,480
as sanitized as they are now. 
And what they did is they sent 

984
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,600
this, No, they've never deployed
these type of people, but they 

985
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,040
were primarily built for hostage
rescue. 

986
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,440
They were modeled after the 
British SAS, and that's one of 

987
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:18,760
their specialties was hostage 
rescue, and that's who saved 

988
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,600
those. 
They got rid of these terrorists

989
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,080
in Berlin during the Games. 
I think it was in the 80s or 

990
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,160
something like that, the SAS 
went in and killed the guys like

991
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,840
they just went through. 
They're damn fucking they're 

992
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,040
they're wow. 
Anyways, so that all happens. 

993
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,520
They sent Delta Force out there.
Guess what happens? 

994
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,880
Massive issues. 
Ill prepared. 

995
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,880
You sent the most highly trained
up to this point, specialist in 

996
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,440
hostage rescue. 
Not special forces at this time,

997
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,560
but in hostage rescue. 
Both helicopters. 

998
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,640
They weren't ready for that, and
they ended up colliding and 

999
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,240
crashing. 
Bunch of Delta guys died in the 

1000
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,840
fire. 
A book that was written was one 

1001
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,480
of the guys who was in that 
crash who survived and lived out

1002
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,360
a really good, cool career. 
But the thing that happened was 

1003
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,120
there was all of that and then 
the plane crashed and then they 

1004
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,080
had nothing. 
So they also didn't get the 

1005
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:20,640
hostages, but they also died. 
They failed. 

1006
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:26,960
It looked ridiculous and so the 
US was seen as extremely weak. 

1007
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,600
Little proxy wars start popping 
up everywhere. 

1008
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,800
Ronald Reagan starts going in 
there. 

1009
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:39,560
He takes the pulpit for every 
hostage you kill is a city I 

1010
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,000
will bomb. 
He gets into office. 

1011
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:47,080
Hostages released. 
Trump takes. 

1012
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:53,240
He is president-elect. 
Hamas will stop will like to go 

1013
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:57,120
into peace talks now China Oh, 
we're cool. 

1014
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,480
We we're we're we respect 
America Putin, hey, we're 

1015
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,480
willing to go to peace talks 
right now. 

1016
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,160
And the reason why is because he
didn't push before. 

1017
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,320
They're worried he will now 
because he's crazy like most 

1018
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,680
president, the last president, 
instead of trying to carry on 

1019
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,720
because that's all Trump had to 
do. 

1020
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:20,440
He had to carry on from what 
Obama had to carry on from what 

1021
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,120
the Bush administration started,
right? 

1022
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,760
Wasn't that what most of them 
are, just continuing? 

1023
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,480
Yeah. 
Previous and sometimes they just

1024
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,280
can't get out. 
And that was the big issue. 

1025
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,120
They could get out of 
Afghanistan without without 

1026
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,920
massive casualties. 
It turned into Vietnam. 

1027
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,880
That's what we knew is leaving 
Afghanistan would be. 

1028
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,080
It needs to be a slow process. 
To be a trickle. 

1029
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,560
And they did exactly what 
happened to Saigon in that one. 

1030
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,800
Do you watch the videos in 
Saigon? 

1031
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,280
Afghanistan was was horrible and
knowing what that one. 

1032
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,880
But when you see the video 
footage of what they had during 

1033
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Vietnam, they were pushing heat 
Huey helicopters off of aircraft

1034
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,920
carriers because there were 
people all over the deck, all 

1035
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,040
inside the ship, just to save 
all these South Vietnamese, 

1036
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,880
because the North Vietnamese 
were kicking ass and they were 

1037
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,120
coming. 
Oh wow. 

1038
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,320
And you could see like when they
were attacking the, the, I think

1039
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,200
it's Hanoi, when they were 
attacking it, dude, like 

1040
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,800
reporters were recording it. 
And it's fucking insane. 

1041
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,280
They were getting on helicopters
too, right? 

1042
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,160
Because they were coming in 
killing everybody. 

1043
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,560
If you helped out the US, you're
dead. 

1044
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,000
It's same thing that the Taliban
did, the same thing that ISIS 

1045
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,920
did as soon as we left. 
If you worked with the US during

1046
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,720
their coalition, you're fucking 
dead, your family fucking dead. 

1047
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,400
And it, it's so sad. 
It just keeps repeating. 

1048
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,360
But this shit didn't happen so 
long ago and it's almost 

1049
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,160
identical. 
It's hilarious. 

1050
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:52,800
And that's the thing that I 
don't understand is that the 

1051
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,840
differences that we see around 
the world with so much war, so 

1052
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,720
much hate, and I hate saying it.
Dude just smoke more weed and 

1053
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:03,360
figure your shit out. 
I honestly like, we talk about 

1054
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:08,520
it all the time, but you know, 
it's like it's Thanksgiving and 

1055
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,160
maybe you don't have a lot of 
commonalities with some people 

1056
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,960
at your family, or maybe you 
just butt heads and don't get 

1057
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,040
along and Thanksgiving isn't the
best time. 

1058
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,840
Or maybe Thanksgiving you 
fucking hate because you're 

1059
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,560
alone. 
And honestly, that can be really

1060
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,320
hard too. 
Yeah, that's, that's horrible. 

1061
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,760
And like, you know, if you are, 
get some super Booth, smoke some

1062
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,880
of that, you will have a 
fantastic Thanksgiving and 

1063
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
listen to some cannabis school 
and we'll hang out with you. 

1064
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,680
Yeah, absolutely. 
But like, it's, it's that hatred

1065
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,840
that like, like you said, if you
could go and smoke a bowl, just 

1066
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,720
listen to these other things. 
I don't I don't think we would 

1067
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:49,040
have so much hatred. 
We would have so much war. 

1068
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,480
We would have so much like us 
and them because it's like you 

1069
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,080
can. 
Have difficult to care about. 

1070
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,520
That it It's the realization of 
like is not what's important. 

1071
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,720
Do you, do you realize that now 
with all the things that we have

1072
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:05,360
in our life and how busy we are,
it almost seems like time is 

1073
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,960
going away faster, but when 
you're in nature and you're like

1074
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,640
camping for like 5 days? 
Slows down again. 

1075
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,680
It doesn't even exist anymore. 
Yeah, it's fantastic and I wish 

1076
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,400
I need to go camping more often 
because I didn't go at all this.

1077
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,680
Year do we need to go this? 
Next year, yeah, 100%. 

1078
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,640
But that's I'm like, you're 
right, time does it stops, it 

1079
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,360
slows back down. 
It's like you can disconnect 

1080
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,960
from all the rush of like. 
Dude, even if you're with people

1081
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,760
out there that you may not get 
along with all the time, when 

1082
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,760
you're camping, you tolerate 
them and then eventually you'll 

1083
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,840
depend upon them. 
And that's the thing. 

1084
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,040
That's why, why my family and I,
we don't do campers. 

1085
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,240
We don't do any of that shit. 
We camp on the ground. 

1086
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,840
Yeah, we'll have a blow up 
mattress because you know, 

1087
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,960
that's going to be the yeah, 
yeah. 

1088
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,800
But we don't have our, we don't 
have cell service. 

1089
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,840
I love no cell service that. 
Is my I just keep camping now I 

1090
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,640
love Spotify for the reason that
I will save my playlist. 

1091
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,080
Oh yeah to my phone and that's 
what I'll listen to when I go 

1092
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,400
for walks. 
That's when I do mushrooms, 

1093
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,760
probably the entire time. 
I mean a lot of cannabis 

1094
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,120
camping. 
Because I'm in. 

1095
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,080
Nature. 
But it's like a lot of our 

1096
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,880
audience, like a lot of you guys
do the same thing where you use 

1097
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,400
cannabis and like to be in 
nature. 

1098
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,360
Oh yeah. 
There's just something about 

1099
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,000
connecting and reconnecting or 
disconnecting. 

1100
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:28,240
And that's what I'm thinking 
that Thanksgiving should be, is 

1101
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:32,320
just fucking let that shit go 
and just be there, you know? 

1102
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,520
And if you don't have anybody, 
get a community of you people 

1103
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,480
together and go meet up at a 
Village inn. 

1104
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,920
You know, Village Inn is cool 
for that. 

1105
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,920
You won't go to Denny's. 
I mean that's your choice, but 

1106
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,400
did village? 
Inn. 

1107
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,800
Yeah, find something there, 
right, A Shoney's or something 

1108
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,720
like that. 
Go there with a group of people,

1109
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:56,200
smoke, bowl out in the parking 
lot, and then you go in and 

1110
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,000
enjoy each other's company 
because that's ultimately what's

1111
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,840
in the I love you Brandon I. 
Love you too bro. 

1112
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,280
And this has been a crazy, 
fucked up year. 

1113
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,560
But you know what? 
I'm glad that we spent it 

1114
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,760
together, and I'm glad that 
everybody else got to spend this

1115
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,240
with us. 
It's been a cool evolution. 

1116
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:17,800
Last Thanksgiving, it was a 
little post, and now we're 

1117
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,840
giving you a full show. 
So I hope you're baked while 

1118
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,040
you're baking, and I hope you 
roast while you're roasting. 

1119
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,040
Yeah. 
And let me ask you, how are you 

1120
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,800
doing your Turkey this year? 
I do it traditional man, I just 

1121
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,600
put it in the oven for a long 
slow roast. 

1122
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:39,040
I do, I just do like a basic 
poultry blend of thyme and, and 

1123
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,480
sage and, and then I, I take a 
shit load of butter and garlic 

1124
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,920
powder and a lemon inside, a 
couple lemons inside and, and 

1125
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,000
then a bunch of fucking stuffing
that my mother-in-law makes. 

1126
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,800
She makes the best stuffing. 
She makes the best stuffing, 

1127
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,600
probably the best stuffing I've 
ever had in the world. 

1128
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,840
But she's so good at that. 
And it's, it's awesome. 

1129
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,560
It is a time where this year's 
going to suck because of my 

1130
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,960
diet. 
I can't. 

1131
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,760
Do. 
I can't do a bunch of fucking 

1132
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:15,280
sweets. 
I'm making a sugar free pumpkin 

1133
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,800
cheesecake for myself. 
You're like. 

1134
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:24,240
Double throw up, but. 
The reason why is just, I know 

1135
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,440
that now I have to be more of a 
keto type of there. 

1136
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,080
If I, if I had the money, I 
would really try to be a 

1137
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:37,000
carnivore diet just because I I 
did one week where I had like a 

1138
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:42,680
bunch of frozen meat and I ate 
it every day that avocados, eggs

1139
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,880
and protein shakes. 
I didn't have any carbs one day 

1140
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,240
and I felt fucking fantastic. 
I felt great. 

1141
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,520
I had lots of energy, no pain. 
I felt great. 

1142
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,920
That's wild. 
Yeah. 

1143
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,080
Just a strict carnivore diet. 
But you know what? 

1144
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,480
I, I, I have to have variety. 
I, I was going to tell you this,

1145
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,160
and this is in passing, and this
is a warning for you guys out 

1146
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,560
there. 
If you ever try almond flour, 

1147
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,080
don't make waffles. 
I made waffles this morning. 

1148
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:15,160
I made a pumpkin protein waffle 
with almond flour. 

1149
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,640
You know what it tasted like? 
It tasted like I've been, I had 

1150
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,880
a mouthful of almonds and it's 
just the, it's not the hard 

1151
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,920
almonds. 
It's just that part where you're

1152
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,400
like, I could keep chewing this 
or I could swallow it. 

1153
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,160
It's that gritty powder. 
Yeah, because that's what almond

1154
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,120
flour is. 
It's just browned up almonds. 

1155
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,960
Oh dude, it was so gross. 
It was so it felt like play DoH 

1156
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,600
being heated up and impressed. 
I was like Nope. 

1157
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,560
So what flour's out there guys? 
What? 

1158
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,840
What's the best flour to cook 
with that's close to actual 

1159
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:50,760
ground wheat? 
I can't. 

1160
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,160
So the one that we've used that 
I've really liked for Emily's, 

1161
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,320
is it coconut? 
No, it's Bob's Mill or 

1162
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,400
something. 
It's like it's a gluten free one

1163
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,600
and it's Bob's and it's mixed 
usually in like a a pre mixed 

1164
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,360
mix of like. 
Xanthan gum and all the stuff in

1165
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,160
there to make their flour mix. 
It's pretty good. 

1166
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,720
It's fantastic. 
I've used it for waffles, for 

1167
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:16,000
her, for pancakes, for like, Oh 
yeah, it's way better than done 

1168
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,280
any other, at least so far that 
I have found. 

1169
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,160
And then King Arthur's, if 
you're ever looking at like 

1170
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:27,120
brownie mixes or stuff that's 
been the best, best brand as far

1171
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,440
as flavor, texture, like 
everything King Arthur's, at 

1172
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,520
least that we've found so far. 
Or Prince Albert. 

1173
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,880
Oh my God. 
Speaking of that, yesterday we 

1174
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:41,560
were sitting in the car and, oh,
Emily had taken out all of her 

1175
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,000
earrings, 'cause she got surgery
and she had to take out all her 

1176
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,720
rings. 
And she was like, oh, are they 

1177
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:47,880
all out? 
And I was like, yeah, they look 

1178
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,600
like they're all out. 
I was like, did you get your 

1179
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,080
nipple rings? 
Did you get, you know, 'cause 

1180
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,240
I'm were? 
You say that in front of the 

1181
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,400
nurse. 
No, we were in the car. 

1182
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,840
Stuff that would be. 
Funny. 

1183
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,760
And I was like, and did you get 
your I was like, what's the 

1184
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,400
female version of a Prince 
Albert? 

1185
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,680
And I was like. 
Oh, it's a clip. 

1186
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,920
Here Princess Albert and and so 
we googled it and it's a 

1187
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,600
Princess Albertina. 
Albertina I was like, Oh my. 

1188
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,320
She's like, oh, you're really 
close, 'cause I was like 

1189
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,240
Princess Albert, but oh I dude, 
I knew someone who had got that 

1190
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,720
done. 
I'm like, that just sounds 

1191
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,320
insanely painful. 
OK, so here's what who we need 

1192
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,200
to bring on to our our as a 
guest. 

1193
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,880
You, you know Gentry. 
Why does that sound familiar my.

1194
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,640
Tattoo. 
Artist. 

1195
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,280
Oh yeah, OK. 
So the reason why is dude the 

1196
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,960
funniest fucking stories are the
piercings and how. 

1197
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,880
Gross. 
Oh, probably. 

1198
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,840
Like some chick coming over here
and going I need you to Pierce 

1199
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,600
this and that girl doesn't even 
know what soap is. 

1200
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,120
Could you imagine you're doing 
this and maybe it's a bunch of 

1201
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:46,960
folds? 
No. 

1202
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,040
And you're doing that. 
Thank God they have gloves. 

1203
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,040
I know, but even then, dude, you
got to get close enough. 

1204
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,840
You can't just do this, OK? 
Like no. 

1205
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,360
Back up and stab. 
But I was just like, he told me 

1206
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,760
some stories, dude. 
That both made me laugh and 

1207
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,120
shiver in fear. 
Yeah. 

1208
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,920
I'm cringing just thinking about
it and you haven't even. 

1209
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,840
Told me. 
But the tattoo stories are funny

1210
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,480
too. 
Like there was one chick we'll 

1211
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,400
have to talk. 
She got this thing that's 

1212
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,000
supposed to look like a feather.
And she got it. 

1213
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:15,480
Yeah. 
She. 

1214
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,040
It was supposed to come out of 
her hair and it looks like a 

1215
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,960
feather, like almost like a 
Native American. 

1216
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:20,640
Yeah. 
Theme. 

1217
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:21,840
Yeah. 
Like, I don't. 

1218
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,400
We don't even know if Native 
Americans did that. 

1219
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,880
But anyways, she had this and it
was supposed to look like a 

1220
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,360
feather. 
And she showed us the picture. 

1221
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,320
Of what it looks like or what it
should. 

1222
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,360
What it looks, what it's 
supposed to look like. 

1223
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,360
Yeah, OK. 
And then she went to one of the 

1224
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,160
other artists in there, and 
Gentry rammed the place at the 

1225
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,520
time. 
And the girl comes over, she 

1226
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,160
goes, this doesn't look right. 
And it looked like a pine tree 

1227
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,360
sticking out upside down. 
Oh, it was so bad. 

1228
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,320
And Gentry's like, come in here.
And he's like, oh, Jesus, can 

1229
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,000
you wait for 1/2 hour to the 
other person? 

1230
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,720
They're like, yeah. 
And they were getting like, a, 

1231
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,920
like, 1/2 sleeve. 
They were starting out, like, 

1232
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,440
outline and shit. 
And he's just like, oh fuck so. 

1233
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,440
Had to fix that big mess. 
Dude, he's got so many funny 

1234
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,760
stories and so many tattoo 
artists are. 

1235
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,400
Hey, if you're a tattoo artist 
and you've got some crazy ass 

1236
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,640
stories and you like to partake,
let us know. 

1237
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,000
Gentry doesn't partake. 
What? 

1238
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,640
No he got he did it. 
He did way too much when he was 

1239
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,480
younger. 
Got super super paranoid. 

1240
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,760
It has freaked him out ever 
since. 

1241
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,360
He gets anxiety even thinking 
about it. 

1242
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,240
Interesting. 
I know, I told him. 

1243
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,600
Dude, you need to smoke a little
bit and see where it goes. 

1244
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,240
Yeah, or take a micro dose at a 
bowl or like or just something. 

1245
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,000
Take some psilocybin, I don't 
know. 

1246
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,040
Yeah, I don't know. 
But yeah. 

1247
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,160
Hey guys, love you guys. 
Thanks so much for sticking 

1248
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,280
around. 
Happy Thanksgiving. 

1249
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,960
Happy Thanksgiving. 
Thank you, guys. 

1250
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,080
Yeah. 
Tip your waiter. 

1251
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,720
Tip your waiter, catch you next 
week. 

1252
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,200
And make sure you. 
Yeah, wash your balls.