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Welcome to the sesh. I'm saying recent release over
there, stuff that they've been talking about the CIA studying
the pyramid, studying the Gobekli Tepe not too long ago,
all these different things that they're studying.
What was released in it? Like what was the studying or
what did they find? No, just that they were even
looking into it. But the craziest thing was they
brought up multiple declassified documents that came up about
what is it called? Amber says that she can do
astral projection. OK.
Oh, that's been old. They came out with that like a
while back about the CIA. No, no.
Recently where they said that they this the CIA and so
whatever it is, but it this sounds like just ridiculousness,
but this is where they're at. They're saying that they found
the Ark of the Covenant and that it's below ground of this
certain area. And this CIA document goes
through everything that they did to be able to locate this.
They don't know exactly where, but they know that it's real.
They were able to describe the box, everything around it, what
was around it and it that it's underground, it's near water and
that they can hear voices. And and I was just like, that's
funny as shit because I know a lot of these like guys.
They, they made him a whole movie about it.
If you ever want to watch it, it's pretty funny.
It's called Mini Starek. I was going to ask if that was
the one. Yeah, you remember that one?
I've not seen it but my so funny my uncle who was in another
state and said he was going to build an energy bubble to
protect the community. He told me I should watch that.
Yeah, well, dude. And it just goes to show, man,
like this is where I, I feel like one of the coolest things
that I have learned from learning more about what's
inside me as far as what what faith really means to me and
what I've seen real faith be. And it's it is magical in its
own sense. But there are people on this
planet that have done amazing things that defy what we
considered logic because we consider everything like, dude,
if if we think about like my whole thing about like and this
is what cook dude, I got Linda to to like freak out and she
just stopped talking to me and then wanted to go to the Bible
and read and I was like, she's I was like pre flood.
Think about all of the major flora and fauna, short faced
bear, Saber toothed tigers, all this shit.
Plus around the world they talked about crazy ass of the
creatures like Dragons, giants. I.
Was like, and she's like, yeah, the the world was corrupt and
the God destroyed it. And I'm like, that's pretty lame
explanation. I said how about this, your kid
or kids are destructive, evil, vile creatures and you've tried
to get a hold of them, but the more that you tried to, the
further away they push. I believe it like super
religious parents who have all their kids leave a religion like
your family. A lot of families around here
mass exodus of younger kids that have left because of the parents
who pushed this. Very oppressive.
It's not even the parents, it's the whole community.
It wasn't even just the parents, because the problem was, it was.
But no, no, I, I get that. But The thing is, is that if you
truly love your kids, you're not going to allow that to happen.
And I'm not saying nobody loves their kids, but they are so
indoctrinated that they believe what they're doing is love.
And it's not, it's, it's oppressive, it's, it's evil.
I believe it's evil because you're, you're making another
human being feel bad about themselves because they didn't
do a thing right. That's theoretical.
Well, that's even the worst. Part the it's right for you and
so we're placing this this weight of this weight of
judgement of like hey you you were wrong you did something
wrong well why because I determined it was wrong I
determined you did something wrong so now you need to feel
guilty because. And that's where that community
comes from, because it's worse because now everybody in that
community goes, yeah, you're doing the right thing and
you're. You as a parent, you're doing
right. That's what you should do.
You should bring them back to the light.
And, and here's the thing, dude, that's why I think like, like my
sister, her family, like all these people are leaving faith
and well, not faith, a church faith is different.
They're leaving the church or their churches.
And the reason why is that it's a biological response.
It's almost innate in US when you are telling us something is
true but we obviously have questions and you say don't ask
questions. That's the first scary thing.
Or the questions you ask give you answers that you're like
this actually didn't answer this question.
If you pull that too far, I might disconnect you.
No, I just pulled it up. I'm making here.
I just I'm like, I'm like yanking.
So no, no, exactly and, and and to kind of finish this up and
then we'll go into our review. And I just forget this is a
sash. Well, no, no, I mean, I really
appreciate, like I appreciate one of the things, and this may
sound weird, but I really appreciate your discernment of
religion because of what you have felt in your life.
And I feel lucky that I didn't have religious parents because
if I did, I might have been one of those fucking weirdos.
And when I say a weirdo, because when you look at them, they're
fucking, I could see that. I could see that, yeah.
You get very intertwined into things you get very into and if
it was religion when you were young because your family was, I
would have seen you being. I would have been like McClain.
Yes. I would have been like McClain
for sure. And because, but the thing was,
is that I was. So I'm so glad that I didn't get
that because, and I'm not saying anything bad about anybody's
parents, including yours. But when I hear back to that,
when I hear Auschwitz, I hear no childhood.
I hear control. Well, most of them are.
Most of them are controlling because it's you need to do
this, you need to do this. It's the your wife's struggle.
Hey, I've really wanted my kids to go to church.
How? How come we can't make them?
And you're like, oh, honey, you have to give them.
You know this crazy thing they teach about all the time, free
agency. You should have the decision
sometimes to not choose to go to church.
That should be OK. And and that's the thing, it's
hard for them to awaken. But when you point it out, and
that's why I, I truly do believe that biblical Canon is just,
these are conversations of spiritual strife.
That's it. They're not the way.
The teaching of the way was how Christ acted, and Christ didn't
have a church. He didn't have a process, He
didn't have special seances. He.
Didn't have a special handshake to be his.
Friend. Nope, no, none of that.
And that's the thing, Like I, I laughed because I mean, you
know, they go, well, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, you take
this like in a modern era or during any era, some guy says
that I speak to God and then and then he gets instructions for
certain things. And then he's like, OK, I did
all that. Now what?
And then just silence and just saying, well, I gave you a very
clear instruction. Just just be good.
Just just do follow these. OK, so you want me to build a
structure around it. I'm not going to tell you what
to do. I already gave it to you.
And that's the thing that when all of these religions that
follow Christ or say they follow Christ, they encapsulate not
what his works were, but just the words and the meanings.
They they are confused by his parables and he spoke in
parables to confuse them on purpose because he wanted you to
dig past the meaning and going, what is this?
Like he legit was the Riddler. Like he like.
Riddle me this. So as you've kind of come to a
keen observation of like members that you sit around and that and
going, oh, like this person was incredibly pious.
This person like they're only here because they're checking
their box. They're doing this.
I think maybe why there has been such a mass exodus probably of
every religion is because people in my generation, they're OK
having faith, they're OK having this.
But when they look at what is this business is built around,
it's not faith. The people you see there aren't
faith there. Most of them are checking their
boxes. So you come and you sit in there
and you go this, this thing that I thought I didn't know because
I didn't really look at it and analyze it, You know, pre COVID
or whatever, so many people didn't actually look at their
faith. It was just a religion.
I am religious, I go to church, I do this.
Once they did and you know, they started looking at that.
I think so many people started trying to find faith and what
they found was their faith. That faith wasn't their faith
was not in this business. It wasn't in this checking the
boxes. It wasn't in going to this build
building with a whole bunch of other people checking their
boxes. There was not faith there.
And that's why they left, because you don't find it there.
And if you find that there's no faith there, there's no
community. It's just people are there for
fear, they're there for guilt, they're there to check a box.
Or they're there because they, they, it's.
But it's it's not because they truly have that faith of because
they don't even know. They don't know the words.
They they read the words, but they don't, they don't follow.
Them so they have. No fucking clue.
And the people finally awaken to that and go, there's no faith
here. This is not God.
God is not surrounded by this. God is surrounded by love by by,
but this, and that's what they're finding is not there.
And they're going, where can I find this?
It's not here. So where can I?
Instead of going, I can bring it to these people who are dumb and
blind and like asleep. I can wake them up.
No, no, no, no. They want to find it.
They want to go where does it exist?
Because it's not here. I didn't find it here.
I'm finding it in these people who are also awakening and
they're finding a faith. But where?
Where is that? Where do I find this community,
this that exists already because they're wanting to go.
Well, I had this community that I was told was this until I
realize we're checking boxes. People are reading words, but no
one's following and doing. No one lives Jesus.
No one is in embodies Jesus in this community.
Yeah, maybe I get one or two, but those are the people I'm
friends with and they're the ones having the same questions
as I am. And so they leave going, well,
why are we here? Well, we're here for community.
Well, our community, we're realizing is this couple of few
groups of people that we're having these conversations with,
that we're having true faith, that we're finding connection
deeper than just, hey, why aren't you at church?
Well, and and and the thing. That's what sucks, but that's
why they in every religion is leaving, because they're
realizing God isn't here. God is in not this checking
lists, checking boxes, these people who are reading words and
not following it. God is in all these other like
the people who are asleep and living life on just this
monotonous schedule of like this is what I do.
I'm checking my boxes. They're not awake.
They're not ones you really get real connection with.
Truly and, and, and I kind of take it back to consumerism
because you know, you look at entrepreneurship and employees,
right? I, I, I really simple, but like,
I like some of Robert Kawasaki's ideas, but you know, the method
of having the entrepreneur and the employee and where I
separate that is then an entrepreneur is going to go out
and risk regardless. They have what truly could be
called faith. They have faith they're going to
do it and and they have a. Dream their ideas right,
whatever it is. And they hope that they're going
to make. It and everything goes into
that. Their blood, their sweat, and
it's hard. Oh yeah, got it.
Now, now you take that right, doing an entrepreneurial ship, a
lot of people say it's not for everyone.
And then you get the other side, which is you're an employee.
You do as you told. You show up when you show up.
You will be rewarded every week or every other week.
And if you ever want to take a break, just let us know.
We just need to know beforehand. How does that not sound like
organized religion? Yeah, right.
It's. And again it's.
Or bad parenting, I know, but you?
Have to take it in this way. Most people, I would say the
majority of people, do not want to take the hard route.
No, because it's we're not raised, I think to to do that.
We're not raised with the confidence, the like.
But most haven't. No, exactly.
That's what I'm saying. Like they're not raised so that
we're not raised. We can't raise someone else that
way. Like it's kind of a passed down
thing of well, what was their like life like?
Did they learn or succeed in these things?
Did they pass down knowledge and skills?
That was like, hey, as a child, this will drastically impact the
quality of life that you will have 30 years, 40-50 years down
the road, well, you're 3. Well, and the, and the really
funny thing too, man, like if you, when you're I was listening
to the to the New Testament finishing up John and there's
this talk with the Samaritan. And what's really cool in there
is that during that time with all these people going around,
they were taught these old ways of Moses, right?
They follow the Mosaic Law and it was pretty harsh.
Yeah, it was extremely hard. It was like an eye for an eye.
Yeah, you know, Yeah, very. Which is still stands.
And then when Christ came, all he did was just saying, hey,
look, it like if you want to go hyper like and we can we can
completely go the hypothetical because we weren't there.
All right, so everything's working out.
Got this world going. People are awesome.
OOP, two of them killed each other.
OK, whoa. All right, guys, we need to
chill out. And you, you get out of here,
angry parent. Right?
It's a it's a great way of looking at it.
Angry parent. Kane, you're out of here.
The fuck you do? You are out of our family.
So Kane leaves. And what does he do?
He's resentful. He's angry, he's hurt.
So he's everything against them. And what do parents today deal
with? With any faith and their kids
leave, You know, the LDS Church, some of them will disown them.
Some of them won't speak to him anymore.
Some of them will speak to him, but in a way of looking down to
him. Oh yeah.
And then I definitely get tacked down upon because of that.
And there's been many a moment where my dad's told me I'm not
Mormon because it's too high of a standard for me to live.
Yeah, yeah, I know. So, but it's just so funny
because that's the best time to be able to quote John or
Matthew, because then it's just like, oh, really?
No, I, I give him a real slap in the face with reality of that
moment of like, actually, this is not why.
This is why. Let me clarify this for you.
I'll give you some some Book of Mormon scriptures that will
actually go against that. And it's great.
And when I throw that in other LDS people's face, I'm like, now
you can't deny it because it's the book that you say is above
all. But it was never said.
It was above all. It never was said that way.
The people began to put it on a pedestal.
It has become their golden calf. It is.
It's fucking weird. That's what I it sucks, but I
realized just the more you step away from like religion and that
the the more that you realize a lot of religions have many
golden calves. Many. 100%.
People or idols of Joseph Smith oh, worshipping and making him
almost a God and I'm like but this isn't but it's created.
It's man has created this deity and this thing, it's like, say,
for Jesus Christ himself. Joseph Smith has done more for
the salvation of man than anyone else.
Yeah, I've heard that. Deep by balls, yeah.
No, no, no, no get. Out of here.
That's the funniest thing. This isn't the Church of Joseph
Smith. This is the Church of Jesus
Christ. That's what they state, right?
And according. To the name.
According to the name, but the I I think it it, you know, again
it's. It's reading the words versus
following the teachings and the words.
It's exactly. There's a big difference.
Well, and I believe that we are religious people today are most
of them, I would say, if not the 98% of religious people today.
No, no, no, no, no, no way that I'm gonna say Christians.
I'm going to go with Christians. I'm not going to go with Muslims
because those guys are devout and they're scary sometimes.
But. But do you think it's the same
thing? Do you think it's because they
kind of grew up in that whole society, kind of similar to us?
No, I mean, I don't know because I've not grown up out there or.
No, no, I mean my talking to my brother.
As far as those people, dude, I don't know one Christian that
will willingly die for their faith.
I haven't I I would say there. Might be I very rare personally,
I don't know them, but you know I.
I've never like There are a few. People probably will claim that
they'll be like, oh, I'd die for my faith, but, you know, put a
gun to their head at the end of the day.
They would say no and don't. Yeah.
And and you know, The thing is, is that even within the Bible,
God says that too. I think it's Peter.
He's like, you'll deny me thrice, you'll deny me thrice
before the crow crows twice. And so he's just like, no, I
would never do that. And and that's another thing to
say. It's like, it's OK, like you're
trying to save yourself. Like you don't need to die
because of that one. But at the same time, he said
that and then all of them were horribly executed throughout
many years after. And and that's the cool thing
is, is that what's cool about that is that he told them, hey,
you don't have to. And they said, no, I will.
And that's not because they were like, I need to show you how how
valid I am or how pure I am or how worthy I am, but is that I
believe you so much that I'm willing to follow you the same
way. And that's OK.
Those you get from extreme military leaders.
There's Marine Corps, you know, sergeants right now that have
been platoons over in Iraq. And people will follow that guy
like Jesus Christ. And the reason why because he
has saved them. He has helped them overcome
obstacles and they continue to live of underneath his guidance,
not very much different. And so, but The thing is gets
confused is that people get caught up in this again, their
systems. We have to follow a system.
I won't know what the end is if I don't know the steps to get
there. And then when you go to the
teachings of that. Because there has to be a step.
That's the problem. You feel like there there has to
be a step. I have to do something in order
to gain equal, earn, qualify, achieve.
But yet if truly like there's and this is the weird like it's
that Ellen Watts story or you know, talking about if you are
God or like everything, you are the source that you basically
would dream every single thing. You would live a life that was
like entire pleasure for like millions of lifetimes.
You would finally go through every single lifetime and you
get bored of it and go, I'm going to choose to live a life
where I don't know what happens. I'm going to do this.
And and as God or whatever, you would wake up and you would be
in this exact moment right here. And it's like so.
I love that. So, but in that moment like so
if you were God or could be God, you are God that already exists.
So the same concept of like religions of like, well, you can
earn godhood. Well, your other scriptures
claim that God always was and always will be.
So either you always were, or you never were.
Well, and here's The funny thing with about that.
And this is where I I go a full stop on it.
Nobody knows what comes next. No, nobody comes next.
You can hypothesize, theorize. You can feel something deeply
within your bones that you know what comes next.
You can try DMT and try and experience the same thing that
happens when you die and see what happens next.
But truly at the end of the day, we don't know if that's the end,
you know, thing of what happens or if past that is also another.
No, I mean like DMT, any kind of psychedelic, like I honestly
believe that they, they help you to push past this real, this
realm of what is perceived reality.
And it is to me. I, I, I love the theory of multi
dimensional. The multiverse is a strong
theory that they're trying to prove.
I mean it. Is a very interesting theory.
It is because like every idea or theory or whatever exists
simultaneously and right now, the moment that we're perceiving
is just this perception of the moment of this multiverse.
Like there are a million other instantaneous like
simultaneously perceptions of like in this moment, we're
actually getting in a fight. There's a moment in this section
where you're stabbing me. There's a weird moment we're
having, you know, it's the rule 34 or 42 or whatever it is.
You know, I think of that with the multiverse of like there's a
million different circumstances in this moment happening
simultaneously. Yeah.
And this is just that one that we're in this very perception of
viewing at this moment. But that could change or direct
or like, yeah, depending on what the viewing of that.
And that's the. That's the beauty of it.
Like you know, we can hypothesize because we do not
know. No idea.
And, and that's one of the things like whenever I talk to
very, very hyper religious Christians, any kind of
Christian, when I talk to them, their belief in heaven is vastly
different from the next. But the thing that's really
funny is they, they talk as if they were there, right?
You know, like. Like they know so well, like the
every spot on the back of their head, they're like, I've been
there. I this moment.
Then when I was there, I was in this room and like God came in
and he was like, bro, do you see this painting over here?
Michelangelo, motherfucker, Michelangelo.
And you were just like, I was so in awe.
And the color like, no, you weren't there.
You don't know what happens. You're all just hypothesizing
going, I hope this is what happens and claiming I know and
I my dad doesn't all the time. I'm like, Dad, I think it's
great that you believe something, but you can't tell me
that you know something when it's based off a feeling.
It's not even. No, no.
You mean you like it? It can't be known.
You can go for you. This might feel like that's
true, but again, it's based off of a feeling.
There is no knowledge of 100% that you can share with me that
this is a shared thing. I I will challenge that in a
sense of that perceived knowledge and then above that
one is faith and that is the unknown.
But I will do it anyways. But that's not knowledge.
No, it's not knowledge, it's faith.
And faith is different than feeling.
Because of feeling I can adjust but if I have faith I'm going to
go forward and do without like but.
There's no knowledge, so you can't tell me for him where he's
saying I. Know, I know.
I'm trying to put it you know. Sense of knowing here.
I'm trying to put it in a context of the the logic is
flawed and the reason why, you know, let's go to D-Day,
Normandy. OK?
You got these soldiers that are getting off on amphibious
crafts, and they tell them that a high percentage of you will
die. Oh, yeah.
But they charge anyways, not because they're terrified.
Many of the ones who made it up there had faith that they were
going to get up to the top, like they just knew they were.
It's like there was a soldier. Private Dobbs, you ever seen the
movie? Saving Private Ryan.
No, no, no. It's a different one.
It was about this. He's a real, real guy and Saving
Private Ryan's all fiction. But there was a real guy and he
joined the army, but he was a pacifist.
And he says I will not kill, no. You told me about that one,
right? And he saved 75 guys, but he did
it with his faith and it was cool because what he would say
every single time he's been over and tell.
There's no, there's no knowing. It's just he.
Did it anyways. Yes, but it's when people go, I
know. And I'm like, well.
That's a bold. Claim and that's I know.
And I'm like, well, no, you don't.
You base your faith on a feeling and you go, this felt right.
And I believe this is true. And that's wonderful for you.
I think that's wonderful. But the claim that there is a
knowledge behind it and that you can share that knowledge is
false. And so you do claim that this is
true or I know this. You can't.
And I love that you believe it. I love it and I hope for you.
Yeah, believe, but like, that's a good word, but.
That is all. It can be anything past that you
can't know there's no, no truth. No, you can't have that.
So anyone who goes, I know this, I look at it and go, well,
you're full of shit. I instantly can't trust anything
you say because you know things that can't be known.
Well, you know, things that can't be known.
It's, it's really funny because it's, it's that idea like one of
my favorite people to go and, and it's not favorite people.
Like I think they're a great person.
It's just a great example that I like to go to because they
contradict themselves consistently under the logic
fallacy, and that's Neil deGrasse Tyson.
I can see. I can see that Neil deGrasse
Tyson will be like, this is so and then they launched James
Webb and then the I saw this really cool thing about James
Webb. It's really freaking him out
because of what they're finding and they're like we find
galaxies going in a different direction counterclockwise.
There's a lady, Emily sends me her video.
I've seen her all the time and she post there was this one.
Yeah, she got. Brown hair and long yeah.
She's a beautiful woman, yeah, but I love her stuff.
And she did one recently and it was like, oh, our universe is in
a black hole. Yeah.
And I was like, what? And then there was another one
and it showed like the way the light from the universe like
goes through and like bends. And I was like, whoa, this the
way that it travels to us. I'm like, there's so much
unknown that even the stuff that I go, hey, I know this.
This is only what I think I know based on the information that I
have found at the time. That doesn't mean that I've read
everything of information. And nor do you, no.
And so it's like this is what my mind has found at this time and
I'm always willing to go well. If something new comes out, I'm
not going to go well. I can change my mind.
The universe is one example of what reality is not.
And reality is the construct that man has created to help him
not lose his mind because he's thinking if, if this shifts.
And that's The funny thing, like why?
This is the this is the conundrum I have with science,
because a lot of science will say, well, this is true.
And again, it's it's going on that the same that Christian.
Until it's disproven, yeah. And something, now it comes in
and well, now this is true, but I think the problem and this is
yeah, it's, it's all based on hypothesis.
And they test something and then they go, well, this is true
because this happened. Well, maybe that's not true.
Maybe that's the outcome that happened.
But maybe something else along the way is the causation is, you
know, something that happened in there.
But it's only our observation of the time.
And that's all we can go off of is our, you know, our
observations of like, well, a + b = C.
Well now we found out A+B equals like MC squared -2 + 4 plus like
your mom's like you have no idea because the equation
continuously changes as we observe something new that we
had no fucking clue you. Know when you said I'm your mom?
I didn't finish where it was. No, no, no, no, no.
This is perfect because last night I found a meme.
I haven't sent it to you and it has this like has this like
music in the background. It's funny as shit, but it's a
deli. This guy's like slicing up hand
and then it goes, they go, they touch so much meat and once one
day at a deli and then all of a sudden it goes Wham, just like
your mom. I was laughing.
I was like, my God, I showed Steph that and she goes.
Serious. She started laughing.
I'm like, I got to say this to Brandon.
Yeah. And that whole story about like,
I don't like to do your mom jokes because your mom.
But I'm like now I'm like, fuck it, I'm going to say them
anyways because we have a good time laughing.
But yeah, dude, I, I honestly, it's this crazy thing where.
Science is flawed to. No, no, but that's The thing is
that the idea of truth or true faith or following Christ in
exact way and where this kind of kind of stem from, right?
The way I look at it is that, and this is just been my my
perception as of late by going through this is that there was
nobody telling you to do something this way.
The only thing they were doing is like, hey, there was a, there
wasn't a correction. It was just like, this is going
to lead you down a path where you are not going to be what you
want to be. And when people do that in
today's world, whether it's an ideology, whether it's a
religion, whether it's a a political faction that all of a
sudden you identify with, you start to segregate yourself from
being a human to now being a commodity.
Instead of a wee and a. And the thing and, and, and to
answer your question on why, why I like to stay within, I love
this. I really do.
They have been wonderful to me. They have helped me.
They have, I mean, they have helped me the the examples that
they've been helped me to be able to get to where I am
spiritually now. And it's not through their
teachings, it's through their examples of not necessarily what
not to be. But I wanted to question why are
they that way instead of just being upset because it's doing
exactly what they say not to do, but they do all the time, which
is judge others. And so through that process,
what I've learned, dude, is getting closer to this.
I understand things through a lens that I don't need to know,
like science. I find science fascinating.
And I think it's so cool. All that shit that they're
pulling up underneath the Temple of Giza and everybody trying to
say this guy that is wrong. And I'm like.
I just think it's all interesting.
I think it's interesting, but at the same time you don't know
until you know, and when people say that you can't find out.
Makes me want to do more. And Egypt has kept people from
doing anything there. But that would be amazing.
Yeah. I would love to actually learn
what is there. Wouldn't that be?
Crazy all hypothesis or like claims and stuff.
Hey, we did a scan and someone's going.
That scan can't reach and someone's like, yes, it can.
And you know, this is what it looks like and.
Which one was it? So there's all that and you're
like, well, I just, I don't know, maybe none of it is true.
Maybe they can't actually see anything down there.
But again, like we talked about last week, what potentially is
down there and it's. Well, and we don't know, but
like you know, Mr. Mythos, I've introduced you to him.
He did one Inner Earth conspiracy theories #9 Did you
watch #9 about the. One of them recently.
About them finding that subterranean area and they went
down there because the Native Americans would talk about it.
So there was the story started with this one guy, he's a Native
American prospector, and he accidentally stumbled on this
cave system. And what ended up happening is
he got lost in it and it was gone for three years.
Everybody said he said he was dead and then he came back after
three years. It's a long time to be in caves.
And what his story was told to his children because they
thought he was dead. None of them believed him.
The only one who would listen to him was his grandson.
And he would listen to his stories all the time.
And he told him that he had found a ancient complex of
marble and light and all sorts of stuff down below in the
subterranean area. And as he went down there, he
actually met some person just and got lost and didn't know
what was going on. They spoke a language he didn't
understand. He kind of got to learn it and
know it. And when he did, he begged them
to let him go out. And they were like, no, we
don't. We don't go up to the top.
We only go up there when we really, really need to.
But we usually don't. We we have everything we could
ever need down here. And you know, some of it people
go like, Oh yeah, that's bullshit.
Well, there's a cave in China or Vietnam that goes for six miles
deep, has its own forests, cloud systems, its own weather.
It has running freshwater constantly.
Fine. Oh, they've gone through and
documented Also, I'll send you a video.
Yeah, love to see. Crazy.
They have no idea the sense of time, but it is.
It's ancient. And the things that they find
down there, they're just like, Oh my gosh, to believe that
there couldn't be a subterranean.
When we go to Turkey, when we go to all these other places and
they found subterranean, like, why not?
Why not believe that? Even grandpa had gone to that
massive. There's a massive temple
underground carved in salt, Yeah, back in I think Europe or
Asia or something. And he's, he's been in there and
like crazy. These things exist.
Well, and and this is thing, dude, like when people like
that's why when I go like pre flood where I I believe it was
real. Absolutely.
But and the reason why I think about that is that if it was
wiped out, there's a reason why we don't know.
There's just a reason why you don't know.
Even if it wasn't religious or whatever, say that it was a.
Time wiping things away. Like we've seen, you know,
floods or, you know, ice ages and stuff that even if that was
true and that I mean we've seen it, we see seashells and the
water levels that have existed crazy high going, OK, if that
was the case, anything that was there like would be washed away
or buried through sand and stuff.
Over time, the things that were heavy enough would be buried and
the things that weren't would just be swept away and
destroyed. So even like you think about,
OK, well, could there be carvings, carvings on stone if
the stone wasn't eroded or, you know, that could exist really
large things like the pyramids or the, the Sphinx, those could
exist and, and really large megaliths and stuff.
But like outside of that, almost everything would be destroyed.
Records, technology, you know, humanity, all of that stuff,
art, whatever creations we had done would just all be
destroyed. Well, and you think back to man
like Teno Teachlan and and then you get even older going
Sacsaywaman and then you're Machu Picchu and your mom.
And now you go to Egypt, and then you go to.
Have you gone to any ruins yet in another country?
Just Mexico. OK.
Did you go to Machu Picchu or Mazatlán or do you know where
you went? No, I went to Teno Teachlan,
where the three great pyramids are.
So they're the sun and the Moon Temple, what the Aztecs called
that one. So I was at the time, I was one
of the first, the last ones that actually got to climb to the
top. Pete went on one of them, but
they never got to go on the big one.
I went to the big one on top. But the cool thing was when I
was there at that time, and I remember very distinctly as a
kid, because they had areas that were fenced off and guarded.
Yeah, but you can't go in. You can't see anything and but
the the local people know more about the history of it than
anybody else because it just gets passed down.
And on top of these pyramids, there were black type of
substance they think was like plastic type stuff.
And it was all taken off and it's underground and they go.
And there was places at the time where you could not get access
to. It was like old gated off places
that were locked and they had guards around there.
They. Build it into the stone.
You can't go in this section. And yeah, it's crazy.
I've seen that in almost every place like that that I've gone
to. Any old ancient place is crazy
like that. Oh dude, yeah, like that one
story? Two different pyramids somewhere
in Mexico, but it's been, it's been a long time.
And we went, we went like 6 different times to Mexico.
I wish we could flatten that Catholic Church on top of
Cholula, Mount Cholula, because there is one of the largest
temples underneath that. If you look in look up what is
it? It's it's one of the Russia
countries or one of the break off countries, but it may be
Yugoslavia or something. Like that or?
Czechoslovakia, you heard about those pyramids out there.
So here's here's what's happened.
Did they he this one guy had seen this mountain, but it
looked too perfect. So he's was like, what is this?
And so he actually started to go down towards the base and
started to dig and he found rocks, blocks, stones, pathways
and stuff like that and he was like, holy shit.
It's way bigger than the Giza one.
Way bigger. But here's the crazy thing, they
have pyramids all over this planet.
Oh, yeah. Mexico, Russia, China.
Yeah, they're. Australia all over.
They're everywhere, dude. And that is the thing, like when
I was telling you about that subterranean thing that's under
Death Valley. Really.
Yeah. And then.
But the crazy thing was it sounds like a fantasy thing.
There was a guy in the early 1900s that accidentally found
the same place. He used dynamite and shovels
with this other doctor because he was like, fascinated with it.
And he'd heard these stories and he's like, I'm going to try and
find it. He gets access to one of the
places. He brings another scientist with
him down there and they're freaked out.
They spend weeks, months exploring.
They said that they estimated it was hundreds of miles into the
earth all over. It went underneath from Death
Valley, all the way over by the Colorado, underneath the
Colorado River. Like, all these things, right?
And they got out and they were like, well, and their goal was
to make money. They're like, well, I want to
make money from this, Like. And he tried to get other
scientists to do it, and they didn't believe his stories.
Well, he figured out the only other way because he tried to
get science to go with it. Well, so did you go with
religion? Nope.
He went with investors. So we got private investors
saying, hey, we do exploration and we do caves and stuff like
that. If we find it, we're going to
make money from it by being able to show it to the world because
we can charge. So this is what we're going to
do. And they're like, cool, they
took investors out to this place.
They went down. These investors saw things, they
brought back gold and things like that to show them that we
have these things and the investors were super excited and
they said we need more evidence to bring back here.
They found all of these like 100 hundred, 100 plus giant giants,
9 feet or taller, mummies everywhere in this hallway.
That's what he said, right? I don't know any, but it sounds
really cool, right? But the crazy thing is that he
went back to go get some evidence and then never came
back. Days later, they found his car
near the Death Valley. The radiator had blown.
But he was he just was never found.
And so he was the one that knew the location like because it was
his plot and claim of land he had bought to do that because he
surveyed it and listened to say and he's like.
OK, hard to find if it's truly because he would own it and it
would be held under his name. Exactly.
And what happened was there was a flash flood in the area and
changed the entire landscape. So now all of the markers to
tell them where The Cave was can't find it.
And the investors who saw it, we're all trying to do it too,
because they were there and they were like, we got to find this.
Never could find it again. It had completely changed the
landscape. There was a thing that they
talked about. These things can happen out in
the middle of the desert. It looks like a it looks like a
tornado, but it's hard rain and like hail and stuff that is
concentrated into one area due to a mix of warm and cold air
hitting each other right away. Over water that would cause a
hurricane. Over a desert, it would cause
something else. And so it caused this crazy
torrential downpour in one air, like, like what happened when?
Remember when Grand, when Grandpa's basement got flooded?
Yeah, like when I told you, me and Curtis were there.
We were driving home in the streets on my Yukon.
It went up to the middle of my engine.
Yeah, that's insane. I got water in my intake.
So much water that time, but. We were on a hill.
Yep. Like that shouldn't have
happened. Well, the side of the hills left
off on both sides. I know, like it destroyed those
businesses down there, right? But the, but when I, that's what
I thought of when the guy talked about it, I'm like, yeah, that
and this went, it changed the entire and they said this is
common, that happens out there. And the reason why they call it
Death Valley is, is that there's been massive extinction events
that have happened in that area multiple times over history, and
they've seen it completely change the whole landscape.
Like it'll go through weird floods all the sudden.
I just thought it was because it's always so fucking hot.
No, no. Like it was one of the places
where they found a lot of gold, but it was really hard to mine
it because it was so fucking hot and so dead.
But yeah, underground, there's geothermal pools, there's fresh
water pools. But it does go down deep.
That's why it's just like all these subterranean things.
And it kind of goes back to this whole thing of of like religions
and stuff. Religions have kind of taken
away what was what we knew as our reality, and then a reality
was conformed around it to make sure that we just follow this
way. Wasn't that interesting.
There was used to be such a bigger belief in like magic and.
I believe that's true. These different creatures and
things that existed and then now we like.
Nah, that's the real. Fantasy, that's that's what it's
written as is. This is fantasy.
Well but our all the religious texts talk about like fantasy
type of shit. No, I don't.
I don't believe it's fantasy. I believe it's what they
observe. Do they actually believe, like,
do you believe that? Because if so, it's the same as
like the fantasy books, you know?
Well, the thing too, dude, like I think it's funny 'cause though
people will immediately go like, like evolution, like looking at
the planet and the way it's gone, like there's just so many
vast amounts of animals and creatures and plants that there
is no way to know if one dies off and another one takes its
place. It's just so many.
Like that cave I was telling you about.
They have found all sorts of new species of insects, animals,
plants never seen before. The one in China?
Yeah, and this cave, dude, it's so you can in the middle of it,
you can put a skyscraper in the middle of it.
That sounds insane. And it's so beautiful.
Green, untouched, pure. I mean, when we were in China,
it was some of the most gorgeous mountains and like places I'd
been. They have crazy pyramids there
too. Yeah, but aren't they covered?
Some of them were covered with dirt and trees, but they talked
about during World War 2, some of these bombers that would go
over there when they were protecting China from Japan.
Yeah, when they were going over they there were reports of
bright white pyramids out in the middle of the landscape and it
it just goes to show like that's why I talk about the pre flood
is that believe it. There was a completely different
human during that time in a different world where we would
consider a monsters, but that was just what they had.
Like it's very possible. I mean, we look at dinosaurs and
mammoths and like you said, short faced bears, all these
other things and going yeah, couldn't have had like a giant
or some half man thing like, you know.
Bigfoot, like you know, people like I've, I don't know if
you've seen these videos, I'll have to show you, but these
people claiming to see giants on the tops of mountains, one of
them in Mexico, dude, it's pretty compelling.
Where this it they they judged it by 20 feet tall because it
was way up on the mountain side and they could clearly see it
moving. That's crazy arms.
Swinging. And stuff.
That's insane. And the guy was like, yeah.
And then they talked to the locals and the locals are like,
good, we see this all the time. Like we don't go up there.
We're terrified of that. We're not going up there.
And it's the same thing. Like if if there was like a
dragon that hung out in a cave. Oh yeah.
But it was only happy if you gave it gold.
Give that motherfucker gold and then let us take pictures,
right? I'm gonna hang out with it like
some plexiglass. Like at.
First, let me take a selfie. Yeah, like the dragon comes over
just like poses with. You $20.00 for a selfie with a
dragon. Dude, this is totally random.
Have you ever I've seen these funny ass?
Like I, I love animal movies 'cause I mean videos 'cause
they're so cute and funny. But like one of them where
they'll be like smile and then they get the camera out and the
dog goes, it's like it, it lure it, you know, dude, it's like
your dog. Like the more you talk to your
dog and you talk to it like a human, like it really
understands you. Yeah.
Very clear, like Scout last night, dude, my dog loves
apples. That's her favorite treat.
OK. And Steph's in my favorite treat
too. And last night I cut them up.
It's like 2 AMI cut them up. I go in my room real quiet.
We're eating. And then all of a sudden you
hear? So I open the door, it's my dog.
And I'm like, oh, did you need to go outside?
And when you say that she walks and goes to the door, she just
sits there and stares at me. And I said, do you need to go
outside? And then it looks at my wife and
she's a stared at Steph. And I told her and I said she
probably smells the apples and she's like, no.
And I was like, and she was, I said, what did you want?
Did you want some? Did you want a tree?
And it goes right. She goes right past me and it's
like, oh, her butt's going nuts and she's looking at my wife.
And Steph gives her some of the apples, and that's all she
wanted. It was so funny, dude.
But it's like that, dude. It's just so cool.
Like, I think of creatures, I think of people.
And I think we're all like that. All of us just just want to be
treated really, really well because it makes us feel safe.
And we want to do the same for others.
Like, honestly, it doesn't it? It's not that it makes sense to
be angry or evil or mean. That's all human.
That's just human. Even a you know, and I hate you
always keep going back. But even Christ said that he's
like the devil camp didn't make you do anything.
That's in you. Yeah.
The the evil, the hate, That's part of your choice.
That's that's why I thought it was so funny after I left
religion at all. And one of my friends, she sent
me, she was like, you should watch the show Lucifer and I and
I started it and instantly that concept or idea of Satan or this
son of God who was cast down and now make you do bad things.
It was like so ludicrous to me that it became hilarious and
like the concept of like Satan or Lucifer being this bad
person. I just, it became so funny and
then all of my friends started calling me Satan and my
girlfriend called me Satan because it was it was stupid.
The idea of Satan just became stupid.
Like it was the scapegoat we made of.
Like he made me do it. Oh, no, no, no, I don't.
I well, that's a scapegoat that many of them do.
But I mean, I truly believe in evil and evil entities and
things like that, but. Not as in this person made me do
it, no. No one can make you do anything.
No, that, that's just stupid. That was your choice, your
decision. You just chose to make that
decision and now you're not having the accountability to go,
hey, I made this choice. Majority of it's from government
funding. And what I mean by that is FAFSA
and student loans. These all go through the
government. And so when people go into there
you are, you're just going into a government organization,
That's all you're doing. The building may say your
university, but in the asterisks it says owned by the US
government. And so you aren't really getting
us a very well-rounded education.
And because of that, just like you stated, they will penalize
it because they don't make money off of individuals coming.
Because if you go back to the 70s and even the 80s, school
didn't cost anywhere near what it cost today.
And you can get a. Doctorate for the equivalent of
a of a of getting a bachelor's today.
You know, it was interesting. Apparently the cost of a home
during the Great Depression was so nuts.
It was like, gosh, what was it, 16% of your income?
But now it's 32% of your income. So in this moment, the
percentage of the American or the person's income, it's almost
double the cost to buy a home now than it was during the Great
Depression. Well dude, you think back to it.
So do you know where income tax came from?
I wonder if that was in all the law stuff that I read through.
So the income tax came in as a momentary ask of the American
people during World War One. Yeah.
And then they stopped it and it was a very small percentage.
Yeah, because it was only supposed to help fund the war
and do other. Things and then it stopped and
then World War 2 came and they implemented it and then the
government just said well let's just let it keep going and
apparent people were fine. Do you know the highest that got
around that time was like 3 to like 5% was the Max and now how
much were charged is almost 30%? Well.
On the front end, but then at least in the state sales.
Tax you pay sales. Tax and food.
So in Utah, and this is what I hate, is many other states you
don't have an income tax or you don't have a sales tax or you
don't have a sales tax on like food.
Utah, you pay for your food, you get taxed on that.
You can't live. You're taxed on your sales tax,
your income tax, everything. Plus, you know what percentage
of people here also donate another 10%?
And so even then I'm like by the time we add our seven 8% tax,
our sales tax, our income tax, we're probably close to almost
50%, oh, 100% tax in just what the income from Utah is.
Well, it's and the the thing that people, they think that the
value of their homes is just going up.
No, no, no. That is a clear sign of
inflation. If inflation goes up, then
everything goes up not because of the see value, but the
devaluation of the value of that dollar.
And so now like people are like dude, I know a guy out in
Florida is trying to sell his home for 1.54 bedroom 3 bath.
Are you fucking kidding me? No idea.
And I don't know the value of homes, but.
No, no, no, but that's the thing.
Like it's, it's all over the place and it's a it's, it's the
real estate agents and and real estate agents listen to they go,
no, it's not like that. Like the majority of real estate
agents are fucks because they don't understand they're they're
slimy salespeople that come under the guise of helping
people. They are not most of them don't
know what the fuck they're talking about.
They're not a loan officer. They're not they don't build the
home. They just show it and by showing
it, they show up in this saying, hey, what do you think?
And you go, yeah, I like it good, cool.
That'll be 10% of everything. Not anymore.
I love that too, but it it is just it's so crazy, dude.
All this taxation that happens went because it was a.
Little one ahead of time. Man, the government does some
gangster shit every year. They always show up going, all
right, we need some taxes and then they tax that and they tax
everything else like that's some gangster shit.
Like I need a little bit more money.
Well, what do you need it for? The White House needs a paint
job and. That's we need some new rims.
But you know what's funny is that we what we're learning now
is that it has been a funnel to be able to help politicians
become wealthy millionaires. Yeah, I mean, have you seen?
Politicians, and you know, the ones I like, like there's one
politician, I always hear him during like Senate committee
hearings and when they're they're going over some type of
judicial thing or some government oversight committee.
And this one guy, dude, he gets the money he gets and that's all
he gets. He doesn't talk to anybody
outside. He's like, I'm here for my state
and for my country. That's it.
I'm not here to make money. He doesn't make a lot of money.
And he gets he's he's the one that goes over saying if you
join Senate or Congress, you shouldn't be allowed to own a
part of a large company that makes money.
Yeah, you shouldn't be able to do any.
Of this sorry you make a good six figure salary.
You shouldn't need that honestly.
And what do they do? They make millions.
They make millions and they go in a short.
Period of time. That's insane dude.
Even presidents weren't like the presidents weren't multi million
dude. George Bush was.
George Bush senior and junior were millionaires because they
were a part of a family of a large oil family.
All different. Carter wasn't like that dude.
Carter was like after he left being president, he was just a
philanthropist. He didn't make a lot of money.
He just had a little home. Like that's the thing I don't
it's because we're so caught up in well, it's it's easier now to
say I'm right. It goes back to that whole
thing, right? I'm right.
Just listen to me because I'm right.
How well I'm on TVI wear. I wear slick looking suits.
I have a podcast. I say big things like the
government people, you know, and and that's the thing that that
it's so funny. Hey, exactly right.
I have a podcast. You should listen to me.
And it's just become so skewed. It's just become so skewed.
So I like now where the it's being burnt, it's being burnt
right now. And it doesn't mean that won't
be corrupt, for it's going to be corrupt regardless, but I think
it could be a little less that. I feel like corruption is
unfortunately always existed and I don't know if it will.
Happens in nature. Absolutely corrupts absolutely
though, and I don't know. But sometimes, like cancer, you
don't even know that you're doing it.
Yeah, I could see that, right. I think most.
Like overly religious? Overly religious.
People they feel and think that what they are doing is right and
true, even in the judgment of their neighbor, their sibling,
their friend, their whatever you know, it's it's always done from
the perception of well, I'm right.
This is this is right? It's like the Civil War when
that happened, what would that have felt like, dude?
Like put yourself in that position and don't answer.
Just kind of like feel it, but say like Alec was of the North
and you were of the South, not because of, you know, political
affiliations, how you feel. We're just we're just dividing a
line. You believe in one thing was it
wasn't all about slavery. It was about there's.
A lot of different things. Yeah, it was a lot about like
economics and stuff like that. The South was doing very well
compared to the North on money wise but they still held power.
So when they started to fight like could you fight your
brother? Could you kill your brother?
Like the amount of people that died in the civil war we have no
idea what death looks like not in this country.
You could take all of our wars that we fought in and died in
since then it still doesn't add up to how many died and that's
just US people against AUS person.
So it's it, it just goes that's. What I think like, you know, I
it sucks because I see so much of the disruption right now and
so much of the animosity on both sides of like it feels it feels
like there's an uprising that's coming from one side or the
other. And it feels like that civil war
time of like brothers and sisters butting heads, fighting
each other, going no, fuck you like this is.
And that's more of what it feels like this tension that's rising
and building across the country of just no longer a we but a US
and a them and very much a my side is right and your side is
wrong. I.
I feel that that is 100% a product of of the media
landscape that has run rampant for too long unfettered.
And and you can tell that because we're people are are
starting to wake up on both sides saying I was lied to
constantly and now I'm not OK with it.
And that's where you know it. It's so funny to watch it.
And that that's just not here in the United States, dude.
That's everywhere. In France, the woman who is
running against the president, she's now in prison.
Fraud, something, it just came out of nowhere.
I mean, Marcone is how many political figures probably have
been caught up or would be caught up in fraud or, you know,
things that they really shouldn't be.
All of their dirty laundry came out.
The The thing is. Is I think we'd have many
politicians. Well, no, no, no.
It had nothing to do with that. Marcon wants absolute power.
He doesn't want to relinquish it and he's had a lot of questions
about how he's run France. And the US has come after France
quite a bit saying we're done paying for you.
Did you hear that, this new initiative about Europe?
JD Vance, vice president, went over to Economic Forum to talk
to all the nations and stuff like that.
And he said he welcomed him. He talked to him, The great
good, We all love each other, OK?
the US is sick and tired of picking up the bill defending
you. You need to start defending
yourselves. We're done spending our money
defending your countries, so we need you to ramp up and start.
Your spending did see that and then I saw.
There and the. Response from what was it
Denmark or Sweden, whichever one that he called out because it
was done in a very asshole Y way.
So, and so the, the guy of Denmark or Sweden was like, oh,
we are totally OK having conversations.
In fact, the truths that we have or this thing that's in place
actually allows for you to increase this.
We just request that you ask to have the conversation.
And we also request that because we're allies.
You just talk to us like you would an ally.
Because. As far as we consider ourselves,
we still consider ourselves US, and this an ally.
So that, we think, just seems like some level of decent human
respect. Anyway, I mean, and I think it
was blanketed in that and Denmark took it personally, but
Denmark compared to the United States, Denmark is this and the
US is this couch. So when they do it
comparatively, the reason why they said Europe in general, not
necessarily individual countries, mainly Germany,
France and the UK. Yeah, but as the countries who
are still addressed in that, it is still for them a very
personal attack of like, hey, we, we're your allies or are.
And to come in and you're, it's like, hey, we're your friend and
you came in and your approach was like really assholely.
Well, and and. I can, but I thought we were
friends, right? In a way because they're
frustrated because when you take the defense spending compared to
the well, let me give this. But like if you and me came in
and different. Dick.
That was, I was a Dick. Yeah.
And it was like, bro, why are you ducking like this?
I thought we were friends. Like why are you treating me
like this? All right, take this.
That's my perception. No, I totally get you're going
from the I'm going to go from a business perspective.
So business partners. Yeah, let's.
No, not even business partners. Let's take it like you've got.
But they're allies. So what would you call that as
far as business? How would that?
Ally, okay. What I would consider an ally is
somebody that can be able to join forces with you and
partnership in an equal partnership, equal is not even
close. Because if you look at that, the
US to spending as far as defense, it's not in the
homeland, it's abroad. And I know because of Rome, it
is a Rome thing. This is the way for them to get
territories. And we are much larger.
Right. But at the same time, now we do
that to be able to go on the offensive. after World War 2,
the US agreed to be able to help out Europe and get them rebuilt
and they did that. They did it with Japan, they did
it with the Philippines. They did a lot of places the US
went in there to try and help them after the war.
Not that they started anything. Matter of fact, they were late
to the to the game. So when they came in, their
defense budget was only like, like the income tax was only for
supposed to be a momentary time. But those corrupt people in our
government go war makes us a fuck ton of money.
We went from being like basic as like we were decent with
everybody else and then war World War 2 and then we became
massively rich. I mean more rich than any other
country could ever be. And so we're like fuck.
And we got a large land space with varying degrees of
differences. OK, it's fine, but I mean it.
You know that the I'll finish this up.
But you know, The thing is, is that when you see, and I, I
appreciate what you're talking like that, but I'm thinking from
a business standpoint, if my business is spending X to
support your company and Y is what you're asking for.
But we want you to do more. And we've asked Europe to do
this as a, as a whole body, not an individual country.
And so when he came there, he addressed them all.
Some of them got really upset. I totally understand that.
I take your percept because Denmark has never been somebody
that has been against the US. However, Denmark really doesn't
contribute to being able to help out with the defense of the
world, so they're not truly an ally.
They're being protected. If the US pulled out of Germany,
that would be fine, but they would also be left to Russia.
So because they aren't, we are a much larger power and they're
small. They're not an ally because
they're protected. Yes, interesting the reason why
it's different it's a different relationship if you're no This
is just my perspective I know, but the an ally is no no, but an
ally is working alongside you to be able to help with the greater
exactly but when I. Don't think the size of the army
or donation necessarily contributes to the ally.
If you're having, well, their communities only 10 people,
well, they can't donate 100 people when they only have 10.
So it doesn't matter if you're totally if it's a million.
And that's why I still see that as an ally.
And that's what the US is asking.
They're not asking individual allies.
Europe is more of like a conglomeration.
But these were the the direct thing was more directed, and
this was so he. Said it directly to.
I'd have to. Pull up a video.
OK, we'll go through that later on, but I'm saying like, you
know, the The thing is. That's just me.
I don't like JD Vance. Oh, I don't care.
So I'm just saying like what I appreciated was going over there
because the US government, if you take it from there, the US
government funds a lot of other governments.
Yes, S South Africa, for one, was being funded by the US for a
lot of different things and they cut them off because they were
they have. Been cut off lots of our funding
because it's not always justified or needed and most of
it is taxable funds so it's. And and this is where you need
to start being able and and he went about it in a very rough
way. I agree with you.
Are they allies? Kind of.
Because here's the thing. Order.
That putting wedges in there puts a little bit more of a why
are we allies? Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Why are we alleys that that's a
great, great, great way to go and.
Understand why Denmark would look at it and go, I thought we
were allies. We even have a contract that
states you can change things, we just have to have conversations.
So yeah, I could see. And I think what it was is that
it's a frustration with the larger European countries that
have been more pushing against it.
Like when they certain things that have happened, a lot of it
is to protect them from Russia. The all of Europe could not
survive if Russia decided to come and fight them.
Everybody goes. Oh yeah.
But is that a reality that we're looking at right now?
Not at the moment. And the reason why we know that
because they won't go after Russia, because they're still
dependent upon their fuel 100%. They closed down their power
plants. They closed down all these other
things, Russia. Who were you talking about?
Germany went all electric, wind farms, all this shit, and they
weren't able to produce for their people.
Same with you. Same with the UK.
You know, there's parts of Europe during winter time that
they told them they couldn't use their heat, that they had to go
out and issue coal because they couldn't provide enough, because
they were cut off. Because during the war of
Ukraine, Russia's like, this is our fight with Ukraine.
This is our fight, right? And they go in there and they do
their thing. And he said, hey, if I'm giving
you fuel, you can't get involved.
And so not one of their countries got involved.
But then everybody came to the US going, well, what are you
going to do? You've already been starting
this shit for a while. You've been giving them missiles
to put on their border. You go fucking help out with it.
And so it's it's come to this, like, honestly, it's just been,
it's, it's like if it's like if your little brother Thomas, you
protected him his entire life and you were just kind of done
doing that. You're just like, dude, you need
to be stronger. And you say, hey, I'm, I'm kind
of done with protecting you all the time.
I need you to start picking up your own weight and doing a
little bit more to defend this. And they go, oh, we kind of like
it like this. I mean, we don't spend a lot of
money on defense. And that's where the bigger
European countries came from. So what he did, absolutely, I
agree with you. It was a Dick move because as
you stated, Denmark had a contract.
Not all of them do, but Denmark had a contract with them and
they should have gone individually instead of gone out
there. It was an emotional move.
That's. What I feel like most of the
ones that I see are done is an emotional move.
These are humans interacting with each other.
There's no logic. We come from a very like this is
AI think in these types of situations.
If you're going to be presenting publicly in such a large form,
you need to figure your shit out enough to go, hey, I know this
is an emotional subject. I know I'm going to be
emotional. How can I try and remove that
from this? Because I'm sorry, it's not like
a little tiny meeting with some friends.
This is a worldwide thing. So there's a certain level of
class that I think should come with that level that just I have
seen less and less of. Well, and and this is all I'll
leave last with and and you can you could finish that from the
thought. I think we've been too nice to
each other for too fucking long. I think we've been coddling each
other to believe that's because our world is falling apart.
That's true. We are.
Waiting to talk with every people's beliefs.
But instead of going, I'm sorry, you're an asshole, you treat
people like shit and your stuff's garbage.
Like, yeah, I think we should have more blatant hard
conversations. It was with my dad.
I told him the other day like, oh, you know, because he was
like, oh, if my if I died, I'd like to have this type of thing.
I was like, you know, if you died, I think I would be honest.
I think I would just say these things because you kind of
pussyfoot around it too much and don't want to talk about it.
And I think at that point I would just rather get it over
with because I'm sick and tired of just pussyfooting around
conversations going, yeah, I'd rather just not have it because
I don't want to hurt someone's feelings.
And I'm like, fuck it, no, I don't care about your feelings
because we'll either get over it or we won't.
Well, and The thing is, dude, I, I love that.
I, I'm so glad that you said it like that because you know what
it's, it's just calling it out. It's letting off that soft,
fluffy layer that we keep surrounding ourselves with and
just being real with it and just saying, you know what, it is
what it is, But I need to figure out a way to be able to get
along with you cuz I live here with you.
And that honestly, is that and it dude, you know, I'm glad we
we, we talked. This is just a good
conversation, guys. We're just chatting away the.
Fucking place. And and I'm glad you were guys
able to do that. I know you guys, a lot of you
guys like that. Don't worry, we got guests
coming real soon. We've got more guests.
We've got but crazy guests. We got the great Roth, the great
prophet Ruth coming soon. Yeah.
So we're really excited about. That we had one for today, but
he was late. He started trying to call in the
middle of recording. I was like.
Yeah, shit happens. Oh well.
But no, we, we, we hear you. But we love you guys.
Take care.