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Welcome to Cannabis School. 
I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. 

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And I'm Brandon Elder. 
And we're here to talk to you 

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about everything pertaining to 
cannabis from vape, flower, 

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edibles, strains, and everything
in between. 

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Hey everybody, we are here. 
Yeah, we're. 

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Excited. 
And for you guys, it's the same 

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like we were here the last week,
but for us it's actually been 

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like a month and a half 
probably. 

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Yeah, we record these episodes 
in bulk for you to make sure 

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that you never miss an episode. 
And what the misnomers of 

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podcasting is that the 
podcasters who are recording 

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every week, multiple times 
throughout the week. 

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That's incredibly some do. 
It's a pain. 

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It is way too much stress to. 
Do that. 

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So we we have figured out, you 
know, as long as we've been 

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doing this, we figured out a 
great way. 

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But that's not what you're here 
for today. 

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Today we're here to talk about a
very cool strain that honestly, 

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the name always reminds me of 
cars. 

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Yeah, same. 
I was like you, getting it all 

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tricked out, swapping out parts,
making it lighter and you. 

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Remember that this thing used to
be super expensive. 

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Oh yeah, like there was this, 
this Lexus, the LFA, you know, 

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their only supercar they made 
that never sold, but they had 

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these pedals that were made out 
of this material and at the time

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it was $10,000 per pedal. 
That's how expensive this 

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product. 
Was that's insane. 

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Now you can buy this in sheets. 
Yeah, super cheap. 

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I mean, I had friends back in 
the early 2000s that were, you 

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know, swapping out a hood for 
that or swapping out mirrors for

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that just because that carbon 
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He just dropped it. 
Was what everyone was wanting. 

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You know, it's like skunking out
your car, getting that skunk top

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or something if it was bite and 
they're like. 

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Oh, I gotta have it. 
That looked cool. 

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Yeah, so just today we're 
talking about carbon fiber. 

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Carbon fiber. 
Not the material you use on your

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cars though, but the delicious 
euphoric cannabis strain. 

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Yeah. 
And and it's kind of unique with

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the names that come out 'cause 
it the and you got to remember 

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that there are so many of these 
strains to come up with a new 

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name. 
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like the slight difference in 
cross genetic breeding. 

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They're like, Oh well it's it's 
not this one. 

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So now we have to come up with a
new name because we just 

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slightly tweaked it. 
Exact. 

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And that's exactly what you know
to lean on that for new cannabis

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listener, new cannabis users, it
it's very difficult for you. 

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I I imagine by going into there 
because I used to feel like 

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bunch of Serial boxes like 
Saturday morning cartoon names 

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like you're like, what the. 
But I will say recently went to 

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Vegas for Mgbizcon. 
We made the rookie mistake of 

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getting there a day early, but 
we had the opportunity to check 

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out Planet 13. 
Yeah, Planet 13 was amazing. 

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That butt tender, oh was the 
most educated one as far as 

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terpenes experience, like, hey, 
this one has this prevalent 

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terpene. 
You're going to have more of 

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this type of experience. 
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prevalent in this terpene, 
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of experience. 
And this one here has this 

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terpene. 
You're going to lean more 

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towards this type of experience.
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And that was better than what 
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Well, and and you know, I'd 
asked a question of him, I said,

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Are you a common educated bud 
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And he said, unfortunately, no. 
Most bud tenders have a very 

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minimal understanding of most of
the cannabis that are out there.

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They don't pay attention to the 
terpenes, they only pay 

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attention to the THC content 
because that's what typical 

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consumers of cannabis go towards
are like, hey, what's the most 

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THC? 
And looking at a report not too 

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long ago, they talked about in 
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content and there was around 3%.
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60s. 
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I thought it was up to like 5 or
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It was around 3%. 
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study went over there and what 
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and this was a peer reviewed 
study talking about 3% could 

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have been around 5% but the 
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Is not very high, yeah. 
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And that's why, you know, when 
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up during that time and smoked 
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like today's weed is nothing 
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It causes them anxiety, stress, 
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the THC content is incredibly 
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Well, now it's around 100%. 
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increase, it's gone out over 
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Over 100% increase in THC. 
So that's why when you look at 

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some of the strains, like when 
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there was a guy talking about 
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In the 40s, in the. 40s. 
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that so this is roughly about 
24% THC. 

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So this one is is what carbon 
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So even if you were at 3% your 
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now I know right? 
Like 800% increase in THC is a 

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massive jump. 
That's a huge jump, yeah. 

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And for people, that's why, you 
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lot with and especially with 
adolescents, unfortunately and 

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and you know for anybody that's 
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you're going to do, that's 
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But I've heard a lot of many 
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that's cool, they can smoke bud 
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Their kid? 
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Yeah. 
What? 

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What's their reasoning? 
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alcohol, but yes and no, you 
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Both of them. 
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super hesitant on. 
That Not that it's good for 

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them, but it is probably safer. 
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chances of drunk driving. 
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accident That versus if they're 
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miles an hour like the chances 
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So I would say the ES Yeah, 
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Not because there are still 
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mean. 
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be the more dangerous of the two
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statistically set them side by 
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Look at everything surrounding 
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I would wager that alcohol is 
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Well, I mean, that's a. 
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allowing my child. 
It's just yeah, if I'm picking 

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apples and oranges, they're ones
worse than the other in my eyes.

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Well, and and here's the thing, 
like if we had the bud from back

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in the day, if I was getting 3, 
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that. 
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it. 
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hot hemp. 
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familiar with that term, that's 
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point 3% THC. 
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cannabinoids and terpenes and 
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value. 
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bad for a kid to like an 
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what their parents are allowing.
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And I I don't know. 
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and forth on that. 
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I'm not really comfortable with 
it because it's there's just too

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many misnomers. 
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like neither of us are wanting 
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this point. 
We're not going. 

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Hey, where can we fit this into 
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You know, lives. 
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know the positives and I also 
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I've experienced both and you 
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of our dyed in the wool super 
fans and he recently was talking

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to you about it and saying that 
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if not altogether. 
From well for a while THC side 

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he'll be leaning more on CBD 
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a month and he realized because 
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year and heavily got into 
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Not on heavy dosing, but into 
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sitting with each experience and
going hey, what am I feeling, 

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how am I feeling? 
Where am I? 

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Feeling like he he spent that 
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And give it a chance, yeah. 
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system with cannabis. 
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year is that THC doesn't always 
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It's about 50% of the time that 
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experience from that And if 
that's half the time, that might

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not be the best substance for 
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But he noticed, hey, I still 
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I have a lot of aches, but CBD 
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And so he can still use and 
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that and not have to worry as 
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It's good. 
I noticed that over the years my

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THC intake has gone down 
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I used to be to the point that I
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ounce a week. 
I am nowhere near that. 

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That's good. 
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that because one cannabis is can
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Oh yeah, it definitely is. 
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substance that you invest into, 
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I mean, a lot of people invest 
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scotches you like. 
You know, high end Scotch. 

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You're not a avid you're not 
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enjoy a nice Scotch. 
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Scotch once, maybe twice a 
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I don't drink at all. 
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I'm just like, hey, that's cool.
It's all for you. 

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Like I'll have myself a seltzer 
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Used to drink, but then diabetes
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that and it was like, I can't. 
That's when you get older. 

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Alcohol. 
I can't. 

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Like, that became a big shift 
because it was like, OK, we were

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getting into hanging out more 
and I was drinking and we had 

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talked about it because you used
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But then it was like, oh crap, 
diabetes is going to kick my ass

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if I keep drinking and doing 
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And so it was like, it's 
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It didn't make any sense for you
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And so, you know, I mean that's 
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alcohol is not good for me. 
I don't usually enjoy the the 

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feeling. 
I just like the flavor of it. 

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And so that's why I don't ever 
drink beer cat like that's why I

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have usually one drink because 
I'm not there to get drunk or 

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buzzed or anything. 
It's like you're out grilling. 

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You have a beer like. 
Yeah, I used to make this Jack 

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Daniels orange glaze, and you'd 
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That sounds tasty. 
It was it was really tasty. 

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I remember the first time making
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to long time ago and shit. 
This was over 20 years ago and 

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we were making that in his house
and I was like, hey, I brought 

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this over. 
I could only get 1/5 of Jack for

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that. 
So we're gonna make this glaze. 

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This is really awesome for 
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And he's like, oh cool. 
And we're making it. 

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And he's like some for the 
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Some for me, Some. 
For me and and we just went back

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and forth. 
We were so drunk before the end 

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of it and I was just like 
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And I always think like now with
cannabis, I'm like, I don't 

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know, man. 
I feel like I just don't need 

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that. 
I don't want it. 

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I just don't like the feeling I 
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After. 
And I mean, I haven't I I'll 

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admit I haven't had a drink 
probably since I was 30, 435, 

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that's. 
Been a long time now. 

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It's been a long time. 
And yeah, it's been that long. 

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Yeah, about as long as I've been
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The, the moment that I got onto 
cannabis, I just knew I never 

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wanted to have another drink 
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I love the taste of beer. 
I'll still have like, you know, 

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duels or something like that, 
just for the flavor and some of 

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it. 
I mean, I don't get, like the 

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pilsner stuff where it tastes 
like piss, but like, I like an 

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Amber Bach or, you know, 
something a little bit more 

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hoppy. 
Yeah, I like an IPA. 

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I'm one of those basic white 
boys. 

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I can't. 
That stuff grosses me out. 

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I mean, unless that shit's 
fucking ice cold. 

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There's one that's like hazy 
nosh ipai fucking love that one.

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But yeah, it's it's just how it 
is. 

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But. 
But this strain, I got to say. 

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So we experienced this strain on
the way to Vegas and while we 

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were in Vegas. 
And I got to tell you one of the

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great things about this strain, 
I loved the way it made me feel,

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even if it was midday or late 
afternoon. 

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This was calming and relaxing, 
yet at the same time more aware.

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Yeah, and we've talked a lot 
about those. 

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What type of strain is this? 
A Is this sativa is an indica. 

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So this one I Let's actually go 
and see. 

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It's a hybrid. 
That's right, it's. 

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Pretty mean in hybrid? 
It's with grape pie, biscotti 

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and cookies and cream. 
Oh. 

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Bake Biscotti is a great I love.
Biscotti. 

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Yeah, that was a haven't tried 
cookies and cream or grape pie, 

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actually. 
Well, a lot of the grape strains

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from what I understand, I love 
very similar in there. 

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But like, when you take, like, 
grape bait, that's pretty. 

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Got like caraophiline is the 
most prevalent terpene and then 

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lemonine and pining. 
Yeah, I get the caraophiline, 

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'cause I I can taste that 
Pepperus. 

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It's it's nice. 
The lemonine, it's got to be in 

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the small amounts. 
I'm not getting that kind of 

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flavor. 
It is, kind of. 

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It's got kind of a a gap like a 
decily. 

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I'm not really getting pining 
either, so it's those are just 

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more on the like smaller terpene
profiles that they have in it. 

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Which is nice, especially for 
those who are prone to anxiety. 

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Pining is something that you 
really want to avoid. 

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Which we learned I'm going down 
to MJ Bizcon. 

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That was the most Jesse and I 
had hung out in person in God, I

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don't know ages or ever, ever. 
And Jesse realized that I I'm an

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incredibly anxious person. 
Yeah, I'm glad. 

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That's actually when I don't use
cannabis like regular. 

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Yeah because we were in a hotel 
and and and while we were there 

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I mean we'd had to go outside 
and and be able to do that. 

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We're in the car and I'll tell 
you man I just, you know for 

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those of you that suffer from 
really acute anxiety like you 

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just you got to do something. 
This is cannabis is such a a a 

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godsend I would say, because it 
it really can mellow you out. 

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But it's so hard, especially 
today's day and age where I 

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always kind of feel more anxious
about it, you know, No wonder 

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why so many are being pulled to 
this. 

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Think of the alternatives that 
we used to have, which is more 

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on the side of Xanax and Ativan.
Alec, my brother, he is pretty 

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conservative. 
He's never used. 

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I take that back. 
He was not alcohol once when he 

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was like 15 by some dude, but 
aside from that he's never used 

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a substance in his life, mid 30s
and he is anxious all the time 

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now. 
Mostly when he flies or 

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something like that comes up, 
he's gotten anxious, which is 

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weird because he never was 
younger. 

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But he's very like skeptical to 
try cannabis stuff just because 

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of, well, the perception. 
Yeah, But at the same time, he 

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will go to his doctor and get a 
prescription of Xanax because 

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he's going to fly. 
And I'm like, bro, just take CBD

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or take this microdose, like 
this microdose one would be just

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fine for you. 
I bet it would help calm your 

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nerves and you're not having to 
take this other crap, but you 

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know, it's that that state. 
Prescription, It's got a white. 

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It's got the white coat, It's 
got a white. 

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Script pad that got your, you 
know, well they don't do that 

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anymore. 
I mean they just text it or 

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e-mail it, but you know it's 
it's really difficult to see 

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that because the. 
Comfort of the white coat. 

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Well, and and exactly. 
But even then with white coat 

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comes poison because they, you 
know, I have a family member 

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that struggled with addiction 
bad and you know, they had tried

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heroin. 
They had really got into heroin,

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but heroin didn't even take hold
a candle to Xanax. 

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Xanax was way more it. 
It was more potent, longer 

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lasting. 
Because heroin, it depends on 

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where you're getting it. 
From what I understand, I've 

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never tried heroin. 
But no interest. 

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It's it. 
It just takes a hold of you. 

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And you know what this I mean? 
A a lot of people have used 

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cannabis to overcome certain 
other addictions, such as 

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alcoholism or even getting off 
of opiates. 

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Perbituates. 
Yeah, so benzos a good. 

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Replacement for that. 
To to wean off, yeah. 

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And you know we're not saying 
that this is the thing you need 

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to rely upon. 
But when it comes to carbon 

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fiber, carbon fiber is it. 
It can be considered a waken big

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strain, but only for those that 
have got if you're really wound 

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tight. 
I would suggest this because of 

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their for me I'm not always 
wound tight and I am feeling 

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very relaxed my this. 
Is like really? 

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It's in my head. 
I feel like not as in like the 

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feeling of what I'm, you know, 
where where we're feeling it 

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within our body, but like this 
strain makes me feel like I have

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a weighted blanket. 
Yeah, it's not a that's a good 

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assumption. 
Not, as in, like I said, where 

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I'm feeling it or how I'm 
feeling it, but as in the 

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experience of comfort, the 
experience of less anxiety, the 

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feeling of like, someone almost 
just giving you a hug and you're

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like, I'm OK. 
I don't feel anxious, I don't 

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feel stressed, I don't like. 
And this one's known for, like, 

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talkative arousal, euphoria. 
Like, it's just it's a good 

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strain, but it's not like seeing
you in the couch. 

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No, it's not. 
Lots of pressure in your head. 

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I I feel really I don't. 
One of the the craziest things 

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I'm feeling with this is I'm not
feeling it like really strong in

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my body or my head. 
It's very neutral, which is 

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strange because normally you can
start feeling at certain places,

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like I feel tiny bit of pressure
in my back, in my upper back, 

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middle. 
I feel it in my calves. 

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That's weird. 
Yeah, not, but not a lot. 

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It's not like over really 
relaxed. 

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I just. 
I feel it down there. 

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Yeah. 
No, I I don't. 

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I don't. 
I don't feel it. 

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I feel it in my head. 
It's like a. 

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Interesting. 
Like if a washing machine was 

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left with water in it and you 
were picking it up and you hear 

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it sloshing. 
My head kind of feels a little 

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sloshy, but not in a way where 
it like this is really OK, so 

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like. 
Foggy or just? 

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Slightly foggy, but more on the 
side of just very relaxed, but 

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almost to that point. 
This is really strange. 

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So it's relaxed, but it's at the
precipice or the gait of anxiety

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because I'm feeling it build up 
in my chest, but nothing like 

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Banana Kush on the yeah. 
Does that count? 

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Like and if you haven't seen 
that episode, go check out Jesse

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Getting Really High. 
But I wasn't even I I thought I 

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was freaking out, but I really 
wasn't. 

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I was just like. 
Internally. 

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Internally I was not feeling. 
Good. 

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But I will say that is what I 
noticed most people have with 

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cannabis is the freak out is not
externally, it's usually an 

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internal freak out and depending
on who they're around and if 

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they're comfortable, they will 
open up about that internal 

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freak out to the people that 
they're with. 

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Because usually if you see 
someone and they're really high,

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they're sitting there and you're
like, bro, are you OK? 

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And and they're off in this 
world in their head. 

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And that's common. 
Like everyone experiences that. 

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And like, I've had so many 
friends that when I had friends 

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that would just be like, here, 
smoke this, smoke this, smoke 

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this, smoke this, that people 
would be off in a whole nother 

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world. 
And I'm like, hey, are you OK? 

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And they're like, yeah, sorry, 
I'm, I'm just off in this whole 

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other place. 
And I'm like, that's OK. 

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But are you OK? 
Like, it's OK to zone off or go 

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out in another place, but as 
long as you feel OK, like 

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because all of us, everyone 
who's done like, used cannabis 

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to a decent extent, has 
experienced that, everyone 

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understands what that moment is 
that you're going through. 

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And if you can be there for that
moment and really go, you're OK,

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Like, and it's OK to because 
they're oh, I'm freaking out. 

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I understand. 
But you're OK Everything here is

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OK. 
You are safe because I feel 

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like, and it sucks a lot of 
dress with cannabis is your 

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partner. 
The legality of it your, you 

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know, whatever your work, your 
friend who knows. 

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How open are you with your 
relationship with cannabis. 

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Like how much of it is fear 
about getting caught getting in 

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trouble? 
You know, someone judging you 

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for using it. 
How many posts do you see online

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of, you know, why can't Mommy 
needs a joint be as acceptable 

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as Mommy needs a glass of wine 
or Mommy needs to go have a a 

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doctor pepper or a candy bar or 
something to take that mind off 

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of it. 
That is their personal way to 

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reset. 
Just take some time for them. 

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Like it's just normalizing it. 
But there's there is. 

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There's all of that fear. 
Yeah. 

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And I don't know, I I think of 
it like, especially when when I 

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personally use cannabis, I'm not
ashamed of it anymore. 

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You know, my kids, Oh yeah, you 
know, they, my kids just came 

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back from school. 
They're doing this whole, like, 

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drug week with teaching them 
about everything out there, 

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which is pretty cool. 
It's in depth, like, he's like, 

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yeah, tomorrow we're going into 
heroin and cocaine. 

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And I was like, really? 
And he goes, yeah. 

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And I said, what do you know 
about cocaine? 

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And he goes, oh, that it comes 
from South America. 

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I'm like, he, he really, it 
wasn't just like, bad drugs bad.

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It was like teaching him about 
it and then what was done with 

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it and then the damage that was 
done with it. 

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And he's like, yeah, tomorrow 
we're going to learn about 

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marijuana. 
And I was like, that's going to 

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be a fun one. 
And he's like, yeah. 

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And I said you have to let me 
know what they say. 

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And he's like, yeah, he's like, 
I already told him my dad uses 

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it. 
And they were like, cool. 

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And to be honest, like, I'm sure
that a lot of the teachers there

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do, I guarantee a lot of them do
the thing that really frustrates

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me on the side where people have
that stigma or those that really

419
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could utilize it or at least try
it to see if it's something 

420
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that's going to be able to help 
you. 

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Where a lot of people who are 
first responders still won't get

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it because they're worried that 
maybe they'll change something 

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or maybe where they live that 
they don't allow first 

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responders to be able to have. 
It it's true. 

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And government workers. 
I thought what was the one that 

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changed federally recently or 
maybe it was just in Utah, there

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was one that changed and I think
it's first responders 

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specifically. 
As Utah. 

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That they allowed it because it 
it is. 

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We had Ivy League botanicals on 
over a year ago, and he was a 

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first responder, yeah, And he 
had realized that, like, he was 

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super skeptical against it, 
didn't use it, And he had 

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massive, massive piece PTSD from
the things he had experienced. 

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And like so many people around 
the country and around the world

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have PTSD from just really 
shitty things happening and 

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seeing really shitty things. 
And like how many of us still 

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struggle with those things on a 
day-to-day basis. 

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And yet he found cannabis was 
able to help him. 

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And maybe that's not for 
everyone, but maybe it is 

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something for you. 
Maybe it's something for your. 

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Friend to be explored. 
Yeah, it should be explored. 

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I mean, you know, it's the same 
that you need to be looking at 

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it as if you went to see a 
doctor and they're like, hey, 

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look, I know you're having a 
hard time. 

445
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,560
Like, you know, when when I had,
I've had multiple instances of 

446
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,440
anxiety and cannabis helps out 
for the most part. 

447
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,320
But there are times where it 
doesn't. 

448
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,000
And you know, I went to the doc,
I'm like, I need something, but 

449
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,280
I can't take all this other 
stuff. 

450
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,880
And he gave me like the closest 
thing to like Benadryl and it 

451
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,680
knocked me on my ass, but it 
chilled me the fuck out. 

452
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,240
And there are strains and that's
why there's so many strains out 

453
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,720
there, such as like carbon 
fiber. 

454
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,520
For me personally this needs to 
be handled in a low dose. 

455
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,480
For me, I think I I mean, even 
smoking that full bowl, I feel 

456
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,880
slight anxiety right in the 
middle of my chest. 

457
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,800
But the rest of my body is very 
relaxed. 

458
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,000
The crazy thing is I'm aware of 
this, the I'm, I'm, I'm 

459
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,120
conscious of that anxiety. 
But the anxiety doesn't. 

460
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,880
And and you gotta remember that 
anxiety doesn't live like in 

461
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,920
your brain. 
It lives in you and it can 

462
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,520
manifest in different places. 
And right now I'm feeling it 

463
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,920
right in the middle of my chest.
Is it a freak out moment? 

464
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,800
Absolutely not. 
It is a very relaxed high with 

465
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,520
the possibility of being a 
little on the anxious side, 

466
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,840
yeah. 
So take CBD before or during or 

467
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,480
even after to help mitigate and 
reduce any of that anxiety you 

468
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,760
might feel like Jesse takes him 
after. 

469
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,160
Yeah, yeah. 
And it's a little bit of a 

470
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,120
lubricant to be able to get you 
to. 

471
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,200
And we stress that so much CBD 
is so great to be able to take 

472
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760
with your sessions, after your 
sessions or just whenever in 

473
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000
general that you feel like you 
need it. 

474
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,800
It is essential in being able to
balance out all those 

475
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,280
cannabinoids that are going 
through your entire body. 

476
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,080
Now if you are higher tolerance,
have a lot of pain, a lot of 

477
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,400
anxiety, you found those strains
of what works with you, you 

478
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,880
should be leaning into that. 
There is no right dose for you. 

479
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,560
It has to be figured out by you 
and your body. 

480
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,480
Yeah, no one will, no one else 
will know that dose and 

481
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,000
everyone's is so drastically 
different that it's like you 

482
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,560
truly have to be the one to 
experiment with that and figure 

483
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,960
it out. 
And like we always say, go low 

484
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,280
and go slow like you can't go. 
There's never going to be a a 

485
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,040
bad thing that happens from 
taking too small of a dose, so. 

486
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,400
No, no, I mean it's it's this is
just a, I don't know it's a mid 

487
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,400
Rd. 
I'm feeling it like like if 

488
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,000
there was, like if there was a 
counter headband strain where it

489
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,400
goes underneath your jaw. 
Around. 

490
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,480
Interesting. 
OK, that's. 

491
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,320
What it feels like now, I'm 
feeling it's a very slow onset. 

492
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,880
Yeah. 
And it I feel very mild on like 

493
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,080
it's not a very heavy experience
in any way. 

494
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,560
Like it's it's pretty medium 
across the board. 

495
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Like I'd say, this is like a 7 
out of 10 strain for me. 

496
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,320
Yeah, I'd agree. 
I mean, this is something where 

497
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:35,760
I'm relaxed enough that I could 
think I want to go to sleep but 

498
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,560
not really. 
And I could drive a car, I'd be 

499
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,800
fine. 
Yeah, I could be very focused 

500
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,240
because this is not very in my 
head at all, but like just 

501
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,960
really relaxed. 
Yeah, it's just very. 

502
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,120
Strange. 
I feel like this is a good 

503
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,600
daytime strain. 
It's it's name properly. 

504
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,560
It's strange. 
Carbon pile? 

505
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:59,080
Yeah, it is a strange strain. 
It is it's very weird it's all 

506
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,800
over the place like but at the 
same time it's it's not bad it. 

507
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,120
I mean it's known for being dry 
mouth, dry eye I. 

508
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,880
Feel it more in my arms now. 
I still don't really feel it in 

509
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,120
my head. 
I feel it. 

510
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,160
I feel it in my in my calves. 
I feel it in my arms. 

511
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Yeah, I know. 
I. 

512
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,800
Like I feel relaxed, but like, I
don't. 

513
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,160
This is, they said, you guys get
a chance, try out carbon fiber 

514
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,040
and and let us know what you 
feel on it, 'cause it's it's 

515
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,160
really different. 
It's a very different feel for 

516
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,760
me from anything I've had in a 
really long time. 

517
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,760
And maybe it's doing, it's due 
to my life circumstances at this

518
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,640
moment, You know, a lot of 
stress, but at the same time, 

519
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,720
like when we smoked this in 
Vegas, it was just chill. 

520
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,120
But I do remember the panic a 
little bit, but it went away 

521
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,520
pretty quickly, like an hour and
it was gone on its own. 

522
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Now of course, I mean I'll have 
some lemon juice after this and 

523
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,760
it'll just disappear. 
And you have to know that the 

524
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,640
lemonine is if you are more 
prone to anxiety, look for a 

525
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,120
strain that's a little higher in
lemonade, your kind of fruitier 

526
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,240
strains that you get into from 
strawberry, strawberry. 

527
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,080
Or pine pining. 
Yeah, and pining as well. 

528
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,240
Pining will be able to help out.
Sometimes it's the opposite. 

529
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Pining for me makes me more 
anxious. 

530
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,320
Yeah, well, like we said, 
everyone's endocannabinoid 

531
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,240
system is different. 
So you you have to play around 

532
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,480
right down. 
If you try specific strains and 

533
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,600
you go, hey, this one felt like 
this, write it down right down 

534
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,960
the turpenes, right down the 
cannabinoids that you have in 

535
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,560
there so you can go next time 
going in cheer dispensary. 

536
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,360
Hey, I really enjoyed this 
experience. 

537
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,120
It had these terpenes and this 
cannabinoids. 

538
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360
Do you have anything else that's
similar to that? 

539
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,120
You know, I'm curious about 
this, you know, while we're 

540
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360
wrapping this up, Sorry about 
that guys. 

541
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,080
I want to look at a review about
this strain because I think that

542
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:04,400
would be very fitting right now 
especially how I'm feeling right

543
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,920
now. 
I'm wondering if others have 

544
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,240
felt the exact same way or maybe
a little bit different. 

545
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,920
So the one thing I'm I'm just 
reading up one of your you know 

546
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,920
that you have aroused creative 
giggly happy yeah I think taking

547
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,200
in the right dose this would 
definite this is not you don't 

548
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,400
need to have a lot of this 
strain to really go far for 

549
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,680
somebody like me I'm a a low to 
mid level. 

550
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,080
Well, you had one bowl in yours.
Yeah, and I just had two. 

551
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,240
And. 
And I still feel just right, 

552
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:38,760
Like I still yes, I could use a 
ton more, but I would also be OK

553
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,040
just being where I'm at. 
Yeah, the OK, so this review 

554
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,080
says my dispensary says this is 
a 5050, but I think it's very 

555
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200
sativa dominant. 
It's a unique but familiar see 

556
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680
so that's that thing. 
It's like it's strange to place 

557
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,040
unique and familiar so it's 
different but the same. 

558
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,640
Yeah, I know that it is. 
It's so weird. 

559
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,880
I don't feel, I don't feel hazy 
or foggy mentally when I smoke 

560
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200
this, which is very important to
me. 

561
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720
I have ADHD and PTSD. 
All right? 

562
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,920
And why it gets five stars from 
me. 

563
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,920
No anxiety or heart 
palpitations. 

564
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,520
No paranoia. 
It tastes so good. 

565
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,360
One of the best I've ever tasted
and burns very well, even in a 

566
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,000
bowl. 
Can't wait for more info about 

567
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440
this unique yet classic feeling 
strain. 

568
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,120
I would agree. 
I think that what I'm feeling is

569
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,640
probably due to a lot of the 
stressors in my life right now. 

570
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,480
There's a lot of shit going on 
and probably in your guys's 

571
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,000
life, it's the holiday times and
maybe for some of you people out

572
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880
there, it's not the best time, 
it's not your favorite time of 

573
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,520
the year. 
Yeah, you barely got enough to 

574
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920
be able to get your cart, maybe 
a bowl. 

575
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Your, you know, you got an 
eighth and you're you're trying 

576
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,200
to stretch that out as long as 
you can. 

577
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Our hearts go out to you on 
that. 

578
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,400
Or maybe you're scraping Resin 
and that sucks too. 

579
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Yeah. 
Or or you're scraping your your 

580
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,120
concentrate glass just just to 
get another another banger 

581
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,120
follow. 
I mean it's you, there's tough 

582
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960
times right now we know that you
know the economy the way it is. 

583
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,640
But the one thing that I do know
is, is that don't allow yourself

584
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,200
to get kind of pulled down into 
that one, into the deep end of 

585
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,360
it and start going towards 
substances that are just going 

586
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,960
to going to cause you to do a 
lot of really bad things. 

587
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,000
You know, when in doubt, smoke. 
Yeah, it's a holiday time, you 

588
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,880
know, put the alcohol back and 
take a toke. 

589
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Yeah, absolutely. 
Well, guys, this was like you 

590
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,440
said, this is a very strange 
strain. 

591
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,680
I hope you got something out of 
this. 

592
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,200
We both hope you got something 
out of this. 

593
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,240
But our Patreon supporters, 
guys, you guys been coming out 

594
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,800
for us. 
We so appreciate that. 

595
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640
You have no idea that helped us 
to get to Vegas. 

596
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,760
And you know we no matter how 
much was we, we're just so 

597
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,560
grateful for that and you're 
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598
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,680
So if you're listening right 
now, new time user or long time 

599
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,880
user of cannabis school, I 
should call it that you're a 

600
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,720
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So when you're you're using this

601
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,480
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602
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,800
Go down the links and below go 
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603
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,040
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604
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,040
We appreciate it and. 
For those of you who haven't 

605
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,000
heard, we're starting monthly 
smoke sessions as well. 

606
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,880
Yeah, they'll be live. 
So stay tuned. 

607
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,560
We'll drop deets and we'll have 
to take a toke with you guys. 

608
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Yeah, so here's to look into 
that day and have yourself a 

609
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,920
good one.
