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Hey, so we were having a really good discussion and we decided
this needs to be an episode. Yeah, totally needs to be up.
So, what are we talking about today?
Today, we're talking about carts because everyone in their dog
uses. I'm nowadays, they are
everywhere. There's really cool cards out
there too. We're at a conference not too
long ago. Those little pods that just kind
of clip on for extra security. Yeah and there's reasons why
they do that now we may be seeing the next iteration of
carts out there. A lot of the cards that we use
today, my go away because of these new types of cards.
Yeah, there's some new ones that are security-based that requires
a subscription to actually activate and use the Pod.
Yeah, as well as like, you, Do you use your whole phone in that
in order to set it up? So yeah, uses like a little
light. Yeah, to be able to activate it
so you can put it in there, really cool stuff.
It seems like an annoyance but it's actually there to be able
to protect you. But with that, I mean, let's
start at the first side. Yeah.
What the hell is in that thing? Yeah, so carts are full of all
sorts of stuff. Mostly, they're filled with like
a distillate. What's a distillate?
Okay. So a distillate is a distilled
concentrate of a cannabinoid, usually just pure THC oil.
That's been distilled down all the way to just plain THC, oil,
mmm. So you remove the terpenes, you
remove the flavonoids, you remove any other cannabinoids,
and it's usually just THC oil. That's usually what a distillate
is, and then they add back in chirping.
Flavors in order to create the flavor up a stray.
Hmm. So that's what distil it is.
There's also CO2 live resin full spectrum cut or uncut oil and
terpene Infused. Wow.
So there are a ton of different oils that are in carts,
different sizes of carts, a lot of armor either half gram or
full G cards. Usually like a half gram lasts
about two hundred Puffs and a full G about 400.
So they yeah with carts what got you I guess into carts first you
did I guess that's a stupid question.
No no no. I mean it was actually carts
were away for me to get back into the Cannabis world you know
where I live. Lived.
I didn't necessarily want my neighbor's to know that I was
consuming cannabis and I really just had no idea.
And the idea of cards at least back in the day was very
discreet. It even had like a stylus on the
end of it. It was like a little black one
and it was a half gram and it was really nice because you're
able to just just take a poll just take a puff on it and you
didn't have to push any buttons which was great but at the same
time it was once you Done with it, the battery and all you
threw it away because it didn't have anything.
So as its evolved, the carts have gotten cooler for me
because it's able to take the experience.
You normally get with flour and put it in a very concentrated
form. There are a lot of differences
between flower and extracts that are inside of a vape form.
But I, I enjoy it because of one.
It's, it's versatility to it sees and three.
If I want to try another strain, I got a load up another Bowl.
I'm gonna go this whole thing, I unscrew and then I screw it back
on and then I warm it up and it goes and it feel it instantly.
So Vapes are like, top list for me, like, even though flour
first. If it's way better, I
understand. But you know what?
Artisan Pizza tastes way better than Papa John's.
Sometimes Papa John's just hit the spot, that's what I need.
It's true. No, no.
Take the time to go and wait for an artisan pizza.
So know it's sometimes, I mean, you know smoking you know
straight flower, there's a process with it which is okay.
I mean it's not saying it's bad enough chains forever, but
sometimes I just want to puff and go, these are convenient.
Yeah. So that's why I mean percent.
That's why I got into it. Of course, you know, there's
things always in the back of my head.
I'm like, I wonder. I wonder right?
Like, you know, long-term safe use like hazard.
I know that there's been issues such as the Black Market carts,
that go out there and those are fake cartridges that you can
get. There are some bad stuff there.
A lot of the reason why the fake cards that came out, where even
an issue was some of it wasn't even cannabis oil in there.
It was hydrogen cyanide vitamin E, things like that, as well as.
Wow, I can think straight pesticides and that that were
transferring over and being used in these cards, which means it's
usually like an illegal extraction process, or, or grow
process. That's not necessarily on the
up-and-up. And they don't know how to be
able to properly clean those because they don't have the
equipment. Yeah.
Or it's just someone cutting product.
Trying to make a quick Buck from either a different country or
from just some cheap person so Those were something to look out
for one of the things we talked about before getting on.
Here is the couple different ways to tell if you have a fake
cart one of those is the bubble test, which if your oil is super
thin shouldn't be no. So if you tip your card upside
down and you see your bubble moving Tres tracking across your
cart, that's probably a fake cart.
If it goes pretty quick because it's thin, I would, I would
compare Are to like olive oil just very thin not thick at all.
The way that I would look at cannabis oil is it's an and I
don't want this to be taken wrong, but it's like a really
thick motor oil. Like the way it moves the
viscosity of, it is quite a bit thicker.
If you put it onto your finger, it would be sticky.
Yeah. But honey.
Yeah, like very much like, honey and it, but when you're in, a
lot of the older carts, you could unscrew the top.
Yeah, you know pull it out now and they're all sealed a lot.
Are there are some that are not, they still unscrew but a lot.
Now are fully sealed that has back in the day.
We would just you know you get a little refill sin syringe.
Yeah. And you just were down in there.
Yeah. But now you don't you don't see
that as much. Now a lot of them are, I don't
know if they're just fully contained systems to prevent
tampering or what. But I I'd say I'm pretty happy
that they've I'm seeing more companies switch to that.
Yeah. Just the only thing that kind of
sucks from it. Is that your your sock drawer
may be full of empty carts. I just throw mine in the
garbage. Yeah.
But sometimes I just like, I switch it out and I forget and
then I go and then I'll eat reach into my sock drawer.
I'm like holy shit. There's a lot of fellows away.
Yeah. See my girlfriend collects carts
to because she let go On a new cart and I'll give her a new
cart and she pops really slowly. Hmm.
And so that cart will last probably a good two years if she
just were two Puffs on that cart by itself but then every couple
months she wants a new cart so she has a collection of ones and
you know she'll get a carton it's like when is this cart
from? And she's like I don't know and
I'm like I'm pretty sure we got this over a year ago.
Why what? How How is this even around?
So you know I understand people keep their cards and they just
chill a little longer. So yeah.
No. I mean I in and talking about
the deaths that happened from the bad cards it was a lot to do
with the vitamin E and that was put in there and it was to be
able to create that thick peel to individuals who are looking
to be able to use that cannabis. Okay.
If you stick with good, Wind you won't run into any of that.
There is a same issue with regular vaping though that same
vitamin E or whatever can be found in specific flavors that
they use. And so if you vape it past a
certain temperature, it can basically in balm over time the
insides of your body, which arrive is the same thing, but
that's once again just proper temperature and you know, but
it's one of those things that regulations aren't fully.
A out there. We don't have stuff in place
everywhere and you noticed a lot of that dispensaries started
changing and pulling carts off after that takes care, because
they didn't know it was in there.
They didn't know the quality, they didn't know it products.
And so there was a big shift and now dispensary quality products
have drastically increased. I would say as far as carts go
over the last couple of years for sure.
And one of the coolest carts that I think I have actually
experienced is one that I purchased from a Madman
dispensary out in California and it was a specific dose pain.
So it was all like a one type, not one time use, but all
enclosed battery, everything all in one.
So once it was done, once you are done using it battery's dead
you. Chuck the whole piece but you
would pull and it would actually vibrate when it was done, so it
would let you know what else is one dose.
One dose is equivalent to 15 mg and so you would buy each
specific pain, or whatever, for whatever thing they had it for.
You know, this one's for pain. This one's for sleep, this one's
for well, that's cool. Active.
Yeah, so they had each different thing and you knew You just pull
until it vibrates. That's one dose.
So is really, really cool. Just to see how they've broken
that one down. Yeah, it is pretty cool.
I mean even in to speak I mean I'm going to play Devil's
Advocate on this side for not necessarily pro-poor even though
that I use Vape probably predominantly but we still don't
understand or know what the long-term effects are going to
be on that. We could see just Kind of like
within the the 50s and 60s with cigarettes in there, trying to
tell everybody that they were bad but they weren't good for
you at all. It was years later when we saw.
So, I mean, even though that Vapes are relatively safe, we
still don't know the long-term side effect on that one.
So it's true. It's just a introducing.
Any other chemical or flavonoid or that into your cart or just
increases the chance of. Yeah.
Any risk. So the Our quality.
If you were to get like a live resin one, you're less likely to
get any of the other additives that come.
Right. And those are our higher quality
they're going to cost a little bit more but they're well worth
it. Not only on the flavor but in
the experience you have well our it's super way, way different.
I got a tan G1 and Northern California loved it.
It was by far one of my favorite next.
To a few other ones. But it mean it's such a it was
it was really good in that sense of you can actually taste the
difference and you feel the difference.
It's very clean. Yeah.
It's like the closest thing to flower that I have ever
experienced in a, like a concentrate.
So yeah, it's super cool. Carts are really convenient like
we were talking about earlier with distillates distal.
It's a lot of the time with the clear ones.
They put in terpene flavors but not cannabis.
Derived terpene flavors, right? Just regular tipping flavors
which come from plants fruits, all these things that are found
in everyday life normally but when you use a just a regular
flavor chirping that's found in all of these other.
It actually is harsher and doesn't hit the same or have the
same effect or if they use cannabis to ripe terpenes, So
when you do get a cart, you can also look in the packaging.
A lot of the time look at that and see if it's just natural
flavor terpenes or if it's cannabis derived terpenes right
and that will make a big difference in the experience
that you have to. So always something to look for
better quality. Keep that in mind, look for
cannabis derive terpenes, if you do go with a distillate, So now,
and lastly, I would like to bring up that.
If you're new to carts, make sure that they're vertical.
When you lay them down, or if they're in your pocket, they go
upside down. It will have a tendency to that
that oil is going to get into your.
I would say the port, the the place where you're going to be
able to take a poll from and it will clog it and you're going to
have to heat it up for a while and then be able to pull it.
You'll have this like Like you're trying to drink a
McDonald's milkshake like it's so thick and then finally you
get it. You're like okay just pulse
through all of a sudden. Yeah can I hit the mic on that
one? But yeah I just just keep that
in mind that you know there are the downsides of of The Vape.
It's that one. You only get so much in there
too depending on the strain and everything you have in there
with the terpene profiles. Some we're going to make you
cough a lot more. In other ones is necessarily
mean it's something bad. It's It's a lot of has to do
with the terpenes but yeah, as you're being able to use it just
just keep vertical, get a really good battery that and that's the
thing that you'll use to be able to heat up your cart but invest
into a decent one. I would say anywhere from like
40 to 60 dollars is a good price point to having a long lasting
one. You will be tempted to buy like
a cheap twenty dollar one, but you'll be charging that all the
time. Yeah, I mean, I've gone through,
we've gone through tons of different matters, And I would
say the best I think, at Square One still is one of my favorites
to this day and that was about $30.
I think the one that I got at the the convention, we went to,
that's a new one and that I gave my wife.
That one is pretty sweet. I literally just tap for a
second and I am pulling off of it.
Perfect clouds, huh rate? And that mean it's at a lower
volume. It that 3.2 To a point three on
the temperature and it's great. That one, I'll have to get that
name of it and I'll send it to you so you can put in the show
notes just to kind of check it out because it was a really,
really good experience for one of those carts of magnetized
bottom, just like the square ones.
We used to. Yeah.
And I like the square ones but I tend to find that the square one
eye because it's so thin and small.
It goes, upside down all the time in my pocket.
It what I also dropped There and broke two or three carts in the
same day. I was outside.
Yeah, that was the worst that's frustrating it landed on the
cart and it broke one and it was like, halfway through the
curtains, like, yeah, whatever. I have enough like, damn it, Jim
it. Yeah.
Get another cart brand-new. Take it out, probably 10-15
minutes later, same thing. Yeah.
Shatters the curtains, are you shitting me?
That one was a brand new one, so that I was a little frustrated
but yeah, that's the cat was my own.
They are brittle there, you know, like all of them but make
sure that you are just using good help.
But by far, that's the easiest one.
If you're getting into the Cannabis world, we always say
flour, first, totally great. But I think this is by far the
easiest way to be able to experience cannabis quickly, and
you'll actually appreciate flower that much more when you
try it. Yeah, so they have that twisty
thread on 510 thread carts, they also have dark Hearts, which are
like the little clip in kinds that clip into, like battery are
that. And then, they have just pack
spots for, like the pack Sarah, which are just already
concentrates. You just buy it specifically for
that popped into but only for the packs.
So, yeah, carts are great, way to get into it is super easy,
super convenient, discreet. And, you know, if you're not
wanting to have a lot of, a lot of things that you need or a lot
of things that you Have to carry around or clean.
This is one of the simplest easiest ways to use.
So yeah. Yeah.
Go into your local dispensary. Bring our podcast with you on
your whatever platform you're listening on, to use it as a
great shopping list and ask your local budtender saying.
Have you heard of this one? Yeah.
And while you're at it, let that but under no better podcast and
they can use that to be able to help others just like you.
It's true. We've actually had some bud
tenders reach out and say, hey thanks, you know, we just
started being a budtender. We don't know that much and your
podcast is helping us a lot. So, you know, if you renew even
in a dispensary check us out. Absolutely.
Okay. Hear from you next week?
Thanks so much guys. Take care.