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Welcome to cannabis school. 
I'm your host Jessie Angeles and

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I'm Brandon Elder and we're here
to talk to you about everything 

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pertaining to cannabis from 
debate flower Edibles strains 

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and everything in between. 
So, Brandon the flower does the 

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Indica flower purple swish it, 
what's it going to look like? 

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Is it going to be really dense 
looking like really small, cause

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you're talking about it like a 
little miniature Christmas tree,

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which is great waited for me to 
visualize it. 

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If we look at it as a going to 
be really big puffy, is it going

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to be really small and density? 
Or what is it going to look 

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like? 
Yeah, so flower can range from 

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like, said tight little Dent 
snugs to Big flowery Bush nut 

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and this is a lot. 
More bushy area nuggets, not 

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super dense, but it does have a 
lot going on between the colors 

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sparkly. 
Crystals of the trichomes 

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trichomes. 
Well, let's we can get into that

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one later on, but you know, when
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what does it mean? 
Ugh. 

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Another is basically just a 
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does that term nug? 
Is it like a nugget? 

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Yeah. 
Start for a nugget nugget like a

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gold nugget. 
Definitely some people would say

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this is just like gold okay? 
Yeah absolutely. 

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I mean you look at the market 
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So that so we've got a nugget 
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when we see that one that you 
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tight. 
It's not really puffy so it's a 

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little in between. 
Yeah, I would say it's a good 

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middle ground looking flower 
you're not super small but 

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you're not the biggest largest 
nugs either, it's just a good 

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middle range flower so I know 
there's a lot of different ways 

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to being able to consume 
cannabis, right? 

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But today we're going to be 
focusing. 

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I'm more on the inhalation of 
cannabis over there that can be 

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through smoking it when I talk 
about inhalation and especially 

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this particular flower, what are
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Yeah some of the most popular 
ways to inhale you know people 

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use bongs and water pipes 
regular pipes joints are also 

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common for those people who like
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There's also vaporizers which 
basically just bakes the flour 

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instead of lightning on Fire. 
So you get less of the chemicals

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that come through there. 
A lot more of the flavor and 

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also use an inhaler, which is 
less common, but still many ways

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to inhale. 
It kind of sounds like that the 

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evolution of cannabis and make 
definitely go back to the 1960s,

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70s. 
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cannabis was used, it was 
primarily smoked, it wasn't the 

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different ways that we have it 
today, but it's very unique to 

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be able to see in our time that 
Thomas can be ingested and 

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smoked and so many different 
ways to take in and we'll 

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definitely go throughout the 
through his entirety of his 

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podcast. 
When we talk about this 

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particular strain over here, got
this feeling in there, I want to

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know, what am I going to feel in
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And they're kind of like an 
overall sense of how I could 

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feel. 
This is something that I need to

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be worried about my going to be 
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There's a lot of things that 
people have misconceptions with 

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cannabis. 
Yeah, definitely. 

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So this And common feelings, or 
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Happy sleepy relaxed. 
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that people use it for is 
actually depression, really, 

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that's crazy. 
Looking through all the research

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at your been able to find you, 
you're finding that that helps 

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with depression. 
Why would that be? 

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Just from the simple fact alone 
that it releases serotonin and 

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endorphins through the brain can
help with someone who is in a 

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depressive State. 
Okay, so there's studies done on

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this one. 
I guarantee that That especially

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as wide use of it now. 
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So people who are got a little 
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are looking for something to be 
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Have you ever experienced that 
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Yes. 
Oh definitely. 

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Yeah, has cannabis been a part 
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certain times, I have no longer 
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six years now, huh? 
So it's been fantastic. 

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Yeah, just like everyone. 
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depressive feelings, correct? 
But cannabis has definitely been

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able to help mitigate that. 
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Oh, I would, I would only, I 
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I I took antidepressants 
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If you can call it that, 
whatever it was, there was a lot

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of horrible side effects. 
I have with that one and if it 

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wasn't for cannabis and you 
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because for me, cannabis in my 
youth was, hey, let's go get 

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high and the feeling you got was
definitely euphoric but the 

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intent was to like drinking 
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When you drink alcohol, you 
either there is specific feeling

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that you're going to get an 
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Pretty much everybody feels 
that, but with indica and you 

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introduced me to this world with
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But all cannabis, there is 
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that you get from it. 
So, I mean, it with, you 

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introduced me to that and giving
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essence of what it's about. 
And try this strain. 

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Try that. 
Sprain tried this deliverable 

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method and whatever else you 
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I was definitely able to help 
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what has it been like, two 
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Two years? 
Three years almost. 

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I have not taken an anti-anxiety
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So you're exactly right when we 
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and we're not doctors, were not 
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Because what, we've been able to
feel on our own is, this has 

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definitely been able to help and
purpose, which sounds like a 

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great alternative to being able 
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such as that. 
Oh, definitely. 

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Purple swishes So one of my 
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ever, so you talked about taste 
earlier over there, you know for

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some people that are listen to 
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I don't want the misconception 
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something grapey because it 
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great flame. 
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I feel if you're smoking it to 
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Okay, kind of like drinking a 
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taste it, when you're first 
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It doesn't taste. 
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anything. 
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Take your tasting alcohol and it
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When you're using cannabis. 
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first getting into it, you taste
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You don't have the palette to 
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No, I've got these flavors. 
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too. 
That, the very first part of 

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that bowl, that joint is going 
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Okay? 
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I mean, I used to be a smoker 
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cannabis in that in that smoke 
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My first interactions with that 
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just awful. 
And I had no idea that there was

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such a wide varying ranges of 
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I thought they were all dried 
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cool literally like is the 
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lawn? 
Yeah it was terrible. 

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My first time. 
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A lung. 
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you talk about it now I can see 
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I mean even though I've been 
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years now and frequently it now 
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I can start to taste a 
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there yet so with somebody new 
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they be more thinking along the 
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connoisseur like you know, like 
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Yeah, you know, tasting wines 
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That can would they be able to 
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that not be a big concern for 
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I think that depends on your 
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And, and your delivery method, 
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you can do what's activating 
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Because cannabis, when you take 
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concentrates, usually, you have 
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whether it's baking it in the 
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Certain temperature, you have to
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okay? 
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And and so I mean, you're 
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things over there and I'll 
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one with you and throughout this
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really amazing. 
There's so many different ways 

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as people may have this 
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only one way you can smoke it, 
right or brownies, that's 

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comment. 
Cuckoos some brownies you hear 

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that quite often but there's so 
many different types of products

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and we'll be able The go through
them deep in this podcast and 

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being able to help individuals, 
such as where I was at, you 

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know, I didn't know a whole lot,
you had a lot of things leading 

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up to when you first started 
being able to use it and I do 

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notice that there is a 
difference in everything that I 

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do by being able to consume 
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different from it. 
So you were talking about purple

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Swish and within purple squares,
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Can I just grow this anywhere? 
Is this common throughout the 

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United States? 
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Is that a real big concern about
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where was it grown? 
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which surely before we got on 
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Purple. 
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Colorado. 
Mostly in Denver Aurora, that 

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area. 
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And would it be that the climate
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I mean, it's in the west, 
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throughout the west, but it 
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very dry and very humid even if 
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different because it's a 
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opposed to the Northwest and 
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between, right. 
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Every environment that it's 
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things from everything in the 
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So, any strain, grown in a 
different state will have 

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slightly different effects. 
Feeling smells just because of 

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the Atmosphere that it's 
groaning. 

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Okay, cool. 
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense 

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it and so depending on where 
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this is kind of a Hail Mary, I'm
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if you say you've got a place 
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that going to make it a 
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elevation? 
What what are we talking about 

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here? 
Introducing a greenhouse or an 

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indoor grow definitely can be 
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You also run into different 
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indoor versus outdoor know, just
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inside versus a plant outside. 
Okay, that makes sense. 

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I mean, I'm going to get the 
same plant but it's just going 

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to be different. 
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control 100% of the environment,
so you can create a much 

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cleaner, specialized product 
outdoor. 

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You have the elements that you 
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Even with a greenhouse still 
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things that unless you introduce
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your left to Mother Nature. 
Okay, alright, so I'm going to 

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go into the fun part over here. 
The smell. 

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Now cannabis has a very 
particular smell and as before 

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we got on we were, we were 
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different flowers right over 
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To sounded like other bouquet of
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Like, what's this? 
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and typically cannabis to me, I 
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you smell something different. 
There I smelt a very strong a 

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little bit of the skunky but a 
very strong mint but maybe I'm 

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wrong here. 
What am I going to smell with 

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purple? 
Swish with purple, swish purple 

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swish is different than what we 
were smelling before. 

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Purple swish has grapes Barry 
and then Woody flavors when you 

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smoke it, okay? 
Very earthy. 

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Most of the people listening, 
they actually know in. 

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You talked about it quite a bit 
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cannabis to be able to go into 
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And so if I take this nug and I 
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experience of what I would do if
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Anything. 
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will take in the Cannabis 
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there. 
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feel any of that, euphoria, that
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or smoking something. 
That's activated. 

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Okay. 
I'm just thinking, like, you 

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know, people have this, this 
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and they're going to get the 
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for. 
Oh yeah. 

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You'd have to be consumed an 
obscene amount. 

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Even then though, I know that 
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in flower that before you 
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Once you activate it, it drops 
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that gets you high or causes 
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I don't know if there is really 
an amount that you could eat or 

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just be like, really expensive 
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Ranch because that maybe that'll
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I don't know maybe the blue 
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skankiest. 
Okay, so we talked about what 

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the strain is, you know, where 
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going to feel and that misnomer 
right there, right for anybody 

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who's being introduced to 
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Of course those of us who have 
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while we're probably thinking 
that that was a dumb question 

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but you know that's what my goal
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Is here is in and I know that 
with Brandon you're an expert in

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this field, you've put so much 
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and I leaned on to you quite a 
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cannabis and so as we are going 
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be that that Gateway for people 
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educated in that sense of 
knowing exactly what they can 

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and cannot do with this. 
It's going to give them the 

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desired effect. 
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right? 
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blunt, whatever, right? 
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If for the the layperson, what 
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explain the devices over there? 
So you'd said bong or water pipe

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pipe so avoiding the. 
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Take me into that one. 
Let's go into bong. 

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What, what is the bong going to 
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Why is it different to smoke out
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So a bong is it looks like a big
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Okay, almost you put flowers in 
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with flowers and with that it's 
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introduces water. 
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it runs the smoke through water 
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and some of the carcinogens that
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that causes it to cool it down. 
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You can take really big hits 
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take really little ones. 
Okay so you can smoke in a 

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little bit smoking a lot and in 
that affects the the temperature

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of it so it doesn't hurt your 
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Yeah the water helps bring it 
down bonds. 

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Also have what's called ice 
catchers on? 

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Some of them which is just a 
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cools it down, even more as it 
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I've never experienced a nice 
one, but At sensation, you know,

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based upon your experience. 
Are you actually feeling that 

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little bit of cool air and 
they're kind of like a like if 

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you had minty gum. 
Yeah you can it can be a little 

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bit cooler as it runs through 
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And interesting thing to try is 
to also put really hot water in 

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there because then it's like 
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inhale. 
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capillaries inside your lungs. 
That's totally different. 

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I don't even know if capillaries
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but let's just say Long's. 
Yeah, let's go with that camera.

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These are throughout yeah. 
Anyways, collects /. 

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Yeah, marketing, get into that. 
So, you're being able to smoke a

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bong that you talked about a 
water pipe is that the same as a

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bong. 
It is. 

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But you sometimes they're also a
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handheld version of a bong, or a
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Okay. 
Just introduces a little bit of 

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water so you can do smaller hits
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for the most part, it's just the
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That's pretty cool. 
Well, this is awesome. 

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Brandon gray. 
Yeah I can't wait to be able to 

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go a deeper into that for those 
listening, you know, give us a 

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little bit of feedback on what 
they're, you know, what else, 

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what did you learn? 
What was the great takeaway over

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here? 
Did you learn something new 

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today? 
For those of us who you know who

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have old hat for them you know 
it was there something that you 

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learned was something else that 
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Thank you so much for being on 
the show and Kathy, It's for 

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joining. 
Yeah, man. 

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I this is really cool. 
I can't wait to be able to get 

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this out there to more people 
and all right, everybody take 

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care.