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Welcome to Cannabis School. 
I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. 

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And I'm Brandon Elder. 
And we're here to talk to you 

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about everything pertaining to 
cannabis, from vape, flower, 

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edibles, strains and everything 
in between. 

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Well, welcome back to another 
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We're going to talk about 
something that's pretty 

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personal. 
And really important. 

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I think so. 
It's something that some 

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cannabis users may feel, and 
this is might sound strange, but

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they may feel embarrassed to 
talk about because they've got 

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such a strong affinity to it 
that they don't want to look 

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like a pussy. 
You know what I mean? 

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Cause we've talked to people, 
they're like, no, you should 

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just ride it out. 
Ride out the uncomfortable 

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feeling. 
Yeah, just just go through it. 

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Just go. 
Through it anyway. 

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Yeah, that's and that kind of 
reminds me of kind of how you 

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were when you were first really 
getting into cannabis. 

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Like that kind of was pressed on
you. 

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Well, I also didn't know any 
better. 

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There wasn't like, hey, I didn't
have the understanding of take 

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nine part CBD to one part THC, 
utilize lemon juice or these 

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other things that can really 
help manage that. 

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Experience. 
Yeah. 

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Offset it. 
And. 

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And today what we're talking 
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reconsidering your relationship 
with cannabis. 

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Re evaluating what that 
relationship looks like. 

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And it's not necessarily saying,
you know, you should stop or you

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should increase, But and and 
we've talked about tea breaks, 

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and I'm gonna go into a tea 
break that I just recently did 

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and and it wasn't, you know, 
we've talked about this on the 

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podcast before. 
It's actually when we started 

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this podcast, I had come off of 
a real bad episode of Panic 

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Attacks for almost a solid 
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Oh yeah, you remember? 
And that was Bubba Kush. 

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That kind of ignited it. 
But there was other other. 

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Factors, Lying factors. 
Right. 

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And now I just came through. 
I've been seven days off of 

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cannabis. 
This is gonna be my first time 

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using cannabis. 
I'm using the Air Vapes Legacy 

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Pro Steampunk Edition. 
It's pretty cool. 

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It's like Copper Levi and some, 
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Like a piece of leather. 
Yeah, leather on it too, but. 

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It's. 
Really cool. 

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Like, see how it opens, right? 
It just kind of opens like a 

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coffin clicks. 
Really cool style it. 

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Heats up super. 
Fast, and you get the full 

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temperature control on there as 
well, so you can control degree 

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by degree. 
And that was my first puff off 

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cannabis in a week. 
And the reason why is, is that I

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got sick. 
And then after I was sick, I 

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started to feel a little bit 
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anxious. 
And then it got really bad. 

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And then I started having 
debilitating panic attacks. 

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And during that time I tried 
cannabis, Like when I was having

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the panic attacks, I tried it 
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It wasn't doing what it normally
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Do No, it was it was really 
affecting me. 

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And so that's kind of what we 
want to talk about today is that

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there are times when you are 
using cannabis that maybe taking

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a little bit of break from it 
will allow you to be able to 

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reset 'cause this is something I
don't want to get out of my. 

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Maybe it's not the at that 
moment in life. 

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Maybe it's not the right tool 
for what it is that you're 

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needing to address at the 
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And even though it can be a 
amazing tool for so many moments

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and so many people, it might not
always be the perfect tool for 

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every situation, for every 
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It's where I think that people 
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'cause I hear some people are 
like, I'm going to get on 

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cannabis to help with my 
anxiety, and I believe it can 

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help with anxiety, but there are
times where it is so strong that

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taking this could actually make 
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It could perpetuate or push out 
anxiety over the edge and cause 

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panic attacks 'cause these 
experiences that are so horrible

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that it really freaks you out. 
Now The thing is, is I've had 

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real bad panic attacks taking 
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There was a time where I had 
taking cannabis and remember 

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that time we talked about where 
I drove home, where I had way 

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too much here and on the road I 
was in straight panic mode, Got 

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home, called you and you're 
like, dude put a bunch of CBD 

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underneath your tongue. 
You should be good in about 1/2 

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hour hour and I did that and it 
helped a lot. 

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However, this was way different 
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life. 
I am a type 2 diabetic and I've 

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been working really hard to get 
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You probably seen on the podcast
I've been a little heavier and 

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slowly losing weight and that 
has been really good for me. 

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My blood sugars are extremely 
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To tell you what high is, it's a
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hundreds. 
Some are listening going. 

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I'd be in the ER. 
It gave me a headache. 

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That's it. 
It didn't do much as far as that

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was concerned. 
Then then I'm getting down into 

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the high one, hundreds into the 
mid one, hundreds down to like 

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90 where it's normal and my body
had this big fluctuation in that

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and it changes like my heart 
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stress. 
And because of that, I've been 

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having pretty frequent panicky 
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sugar change. 
And it's such a drastic 

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fluctuation for, Oh yeah, 
anything you're. 

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Used to. 
And on top of that, like I had a

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close friend of mine who tell me
he just suffered a major heart 

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attack. 
He suffered a major heart 

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attack. 
Like, I don't understand that. 

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Like it. 
He's, he's a little older than 

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me and he's having a heart 
attack like I was like, fuck. 

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So that really got me. 
So today I am smoking on a 

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strain that we'll review later 
on cereal milk. 

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And he's he's been reevaluating 
his relationship with cannabis 

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over the last little bit I'd say
not even necessarily just last 

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week but like looking at because
it's been a discussion of the 

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last I feel month probably of 
constantly looking at it going 

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man am I using too much am I 
using too often am I doing this 

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like. 
So it's it's a constant 

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reevaluation and sometimes like 
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before this like that's probably
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evaluate your relationship with 
cannabis every 30 days. 

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Doesn't mean that's a tea break 
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changing dosing but it's looking
at what your consumption is has 

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it changed why has it changed 
You know is it situational is it

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stress, anxiety whatever. 
Is it pain? 

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Is it, you know, a flare up in 
whatever condition that you 

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have? 
Or, you know, is it the increase

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in the amount of times you use a
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Is it an increase in dose that 
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going, do I need that? 
Can can I do less? 

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But at the same time, for 
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medication, You'd go cold 
Turkey, and so it would make 

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sense to taper down to use 
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That's kind of something one I 
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And I told you because I thought
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able to kind of get rid of 
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But I I kind of feel like it's 
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Because The thing is, is I 
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feelings whatsoever. 
And and to be very clear, I am a

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habitual user of cannabis. 
I was smoking four to six times 

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a day, whether it's a vaporizer,
a bong or a pipe. 

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I was smoking frequently and it 
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And that's exactly what Brandon 
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I'm wondering, like, if I'm 
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there's something else going on.
And that was some of the 

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precursors of telling my body 
like, hey, you're you're doing a

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lot more than you normally do 
and it's starting to catch up 

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now. 
Even though I just smoked this, 

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I'm feeling OK it. 
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It's such a great hybrid. 
It is a good experience. 

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And and we'll talk more about it
on a on a review but to be 

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honest it was just it it wasn't 
like I was worried like I'm ever

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gonna be able to use cannabis 
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What I was thinking was is maybe
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I need to be a little bit more 
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I'm bored or I just need 
something to feel anything other

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than I'm feeling right now. 
And that's that's kind of what I

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wonder too. 
And I look at that and these 

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last couple days with some of 
the discussions we had, that's 

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really been a thought in my 
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use, why am I using it? 
Am I using it because I'm in 

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pain and I'm like, hey, I need 
to like, I'm trying to take some

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of that edge of the pain off. 
Am I feeling stressed? 

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And if I am like what's causing 
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Is it something that I can 
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or like, you know, looking at it
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But I've not been perfect with 
that, but it's been something 

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I've been trying to incorporate 
more because, you know, what is 

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the purpose of it? 
It's the intent behind it. 

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Well, and you shouldn't beat 
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You know, if you are using more,
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in one pain. 
You're in a lot of pain. 

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And it absolutely like when I'm 
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that. 
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have intestinal problems, I will
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It's way better than anything 
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It truly is. 
It's and that's one thing. 

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But like we said, like you know,
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Hell yeah. 
We're having fun when we play. 

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You know, we play video games if
we do disc golf, Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Absolutely. 

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But I was finding myself using 
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grocery store and load up a bowl
and take it with me, and I'm 

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going to bring enough for me to 
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I'll go to work. 
I wouldn't do it before work. 

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After work, I'll be driving 
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I'll be token on my little 
vaporizer, right? 

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Or on a pen. 
Or I would stop by the dispo to 

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pick up a pen because I just had
to have something on me. 

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I had my pen in my pocket all 
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I mean, I do. 
I always. 

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I know cannabis with me. 
But The thing is is like if it's

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with me, I'm. 
I'm just using it constantly. 

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Like I don't stop using it. 
And we've talked about pens are 

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candy if it's in your. 
Pocket. 

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Easy to do? 
Oh. 

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Yeah, I. 
Feel like if I bring a vaporizer

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instead and a little thing of 
flour, I'm way less likely to 

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just pull it out. 
It's more way more intentional 

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when I'm carrying my vaporizer. 
And usually those are I'm 

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hurting and this is a yeah, I 
know I need, I need this because

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I hurt really bad and this is 
just going to help take that 

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edge out. 
But otherwise, like, I realize 

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with pens, pens are just that 
habitual candy. 

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It's in my pocket. 
When you were talking this 

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morning, you're like, yeah, 
mentioned something about a pen.

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And I was like, and I went and I
took my pen out of my pocket 

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because it had been in my pocket
all morning long and I had 

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puffed on it several times 
around the house. 

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And I'm like, I wouldn't have 
done that if, like if it was my 

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vaporizer, I wouldn't have gone 
and loaded it up and done that 

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several times. 
It would have been way more. 

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But my because my pen was there 
and it's convenient and it's 

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accessible. 
I just pull it out and it's 

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like, OK, cool, take a puff. 
Well, why? 

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Well, I'm just doing stuff, so 
it's OK. 

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But I could do stuff without 
puffing on that. 

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Yeah, and and also to kind of 
think about the pens, like when 

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you're dealing with distes 
compared to a live rosin or live

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resin pen, I find that the 
distes make me more panicky. 

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They get my, and I mean even 
though they feel really good 

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too. 
You're gonna be wrong. 

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That's what I got into cannabis 
really with was. 

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But these were like so the 
biggest common one at the time. 

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Well, and and they it was cool. 
Yeah, like it was convenient. 

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Seriously, For like every for 
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into it where your spouse 
doesn't know or your partner 

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doesn't know or your parents 
don't know, It was the easiest 

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way and it was like, OK, well 
you can try and do this, figure 

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out, see if it works. 
Because sometimes it's really 

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hard to have that discussion 
before you even know if it does 

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anything for you. 
Totally. 

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And. 
And you don't realize the smell 

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of how strong it is too. 
Because like even my wife had 

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said sometimes she's like, you 
know, we we'd had a discussion 

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kind of a a semi argument about 
my usage. 

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And she's like, I don't like it.
Did you come in smelling like 

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like burnt flour all the time, 
'cause I'd always duck out to 

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the garage and and get my pipe 
or get my little NJ Arsenal 

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bong. 
Yeah. 

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And then, you know, load the 
ball and be like, oh man, did I 

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just smoke that whole bowl by 
myself and I go, that's not that

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bad. 
And then, but I I mean I usually

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do a smaller amount like the 
bowl you have now it was flush 

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with the top. 
And for me, I I typically don't 

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smoke that much but I was and 
some of the things that I I 

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wanted to talk about that you 
know we, you may notice that 

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you're having is that I enjoy 
more flour to to flame to flour.

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I know Brandon does. 
We talked about it, the 

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experience. 
It sucks, but it's it's the best

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experience that you get. 
Yeah, it's. 

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Way better than the vaporizers. 
It's better than the edibles. 

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Better than distis, better than 
droppers, better than anything, 

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so. 
And I was thinking about this 

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yesterday because so I rolled a 
big fat joint and then I talked 

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to you about it the other day 
that I was going to roll into 

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the end of those joints, those 
carbon filters. 

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How'd that go? 
It was amazing. 

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It was a smooth, crazy joint and
didn't even feel like I was 

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smoking a joint. 
Those are the same filters used 

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off of the happy camper pipes, 
Happy campers. 

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And I was like, holy cow, but it
was still filling with flower 

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removes a ton of the carcinogens
because of that. 

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And it was a really smooth 
experience. 

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I'm like, OK, but there's other 
other things like that you can 

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buy for your bongs. 
They're like Moose Labs is a 

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company that makes these filters
that go over all of these 

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devices and help filter out a 
lot of the carcinogens. 

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So you still get the best 
experience, the best like and 

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it's instant when you do flame 
to flower like I feel sometimes 

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with a vaporizer it can be 1530 
minutes to get the full ride up.

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I mean, yeah. 
Like right now I'm feeling. 

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It some flowers do that too. 
They settle in over time, but 

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it's for the most part the 
you're there. 

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The experience is like, cool, 
you're here. 

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You might get a little bit of a 
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you're where you're gonna be, I 
feel like. 

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Oh yeah, And it it just honestly
like it's the best connection 

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because you're getting all the 
terps, all that stuff into there

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and I know you're getting in a 
vaporizer too. 

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It just feels different. 
It's a slower onset it the 

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flavors are either more 
pronounced or kind of muted and 

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they kind of just taste like 
like we used to say with the 

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packs they taste like. 
Like roasted peanuts? 

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Which? 
Roasted peanuts is fine, but 

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when I'm using cannabis it's 
it's different. 

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There's a connection. 
This is something that our 

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ancestor did for a long time, is
being able to put flame to flour

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and enjoy that. 
But it was either. 

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It was an enjoyment, whether it 
was pain meds, whether it was 

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just a spiritual journey, 
whatever it is, he was able to 

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experience it. 
And even right now being a week 

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off. 
And This is why I kind of think 

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that tea breaks are bullshit 
because I feel the same as I did

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before. 
I know that cereal milk is a 

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very chill strain. 
I won't go further than that 

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because we'll talk about that 
more in a in a more dedicated 

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episode. 
But you know, I I am quite 

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relieved to be honest. 
Because cannabis, it it's not 

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something that has to be in my 
life. 

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I want it to be in my life and 
when it's not there, certain 

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things I'm not as sharp on. 
And that's funny because we 

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talked about that, right? 
They're like, oh, short term 

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memory loss. 
Like, yeah, But I think it's 

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just a bullshit filter, 'cause 
there's just certain things that

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just don't care to know when 
I'm. 

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Well, and it's it's really 
interesting because I see that 

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so many people that I know who I
know have never taken any 

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prescription medications has 
that exact same thing where they

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forget their train of thought, 
what it was they were talking 

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about all of these things all 
the time. 

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So it really isn't something 
that I'm truly associating with.

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Utilizing cannabis, going, hey, 
this makes me forget these 

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things. 
No, I noticed that's a trait 

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that happens in people all the 
time. 

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But that that also to kind of go
off that now we use cannabis 

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specifically for with intent we 
we have for a very long time we 

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both. 
Used to just. 

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Yeah, but I mean even then 
though, I mean no, but I mean 

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you try to, but even even when 
you're using it, you don't get 

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to the point of inebriation. 
You're. 

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Elevated but not inebriated. 
And I think that like earlier on

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when I was using cannabis, like,
especially that pen like dude, I

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would get fucking stoned out of 
my mind to go mow my lawn. 

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Because at the beginning, and 
this is, this is what happens. 

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And I think about I thought 
about this the other day. 

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I was just on someone else's 
show and we were talking about 

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this because I had watched some 
PhD talking about it and it 

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reminded me of when you take a 
tolerance break. 

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So the more you use cannabis, if
you use it every day, the CB, 

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like the receptors in your 
brain, there are less and less 

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of them over time. 
Correct. 

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So when you take a tea break, 
those actually come back. 

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You can get those receptors 
back. 

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So if it's a longer tea break, 
you can experience like some of 

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those initial crazy highs. 
But. 

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Yeah, but again, it's 
moderation. 

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I mean, I I've never, I I, oh, I
wouldn't say never. 

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I now use cannabis with intent 
and I have even when I was doing

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it all the time during the day, 
it were smaller amounts. 

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I didn't try to take too much. 
But again, it was 'cause you 

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were feeling anxious, you were 
feeling stressed. 

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You were there was still 
something, you know, most of the

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time when you're like, oh shoot,
I'm bored. 

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It's this anxiousness of, like, 
I don't know what to do. 

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I need to be doing something, 
but I don't know what that is. 

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But I don't want to do this. 
I don't want to do this. 

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Yeah, and it's really hard to 
step outside of that and go 

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chill. 
Fuck out. 

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Just chill like you're OK Like, 
look at where you are right now.

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Oh, man, I'm just, I'm sitting 
here. 

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I got like a tree. 
I got like, yeah, all right. 

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Yeah, right, right now is is OK.
But it's really hard to be 

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right. 
Here, yeah, to be here. 

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Now. 
And so it's like when their life

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is tough and there's all of this
crap, it's we're not here, we're

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here. 
And being here is where all of 

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the stress and the anxiety and 
the depression. 

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Comes from. 
Yeah. 

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And it it was that point for me,
man. 

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Like I had broken down just last
Saturday, and this is, if you're

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listening to us now. 
It was almost May and I I was a 

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Saturday morning and I woke up 
feeling it, but I was like, 

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that's OK. 
I'm gonna go make myself some 

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breakfast. 
And I make myself some 

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breakfast. 
And before I could even eat it, 

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it hit me. 
Hit me so hard. 

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And this fear of having a heart 
attack was right there. 

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And I've had this unreasonable 
fear that I was gonna die 

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literally, 'cause I had a friend
who had a heart attack. 

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It really hurt him, changed his 
life, and he told me all about 

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it. 
And for me, at that time, I was 

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thinking, fuck, I'm gonna die 
and I don't wanna die. 

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I I've got too much 
responsibility, too many things 

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that I need to take care of. 
And it got to the point where 

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that Saturday I was, I was 
bawling. 

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I couldn't, I couldn't handle it
and I didn't know what was going

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to happen. 
And I I had to call a doctor, 

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'cause I'm just like, I don't, I
don't know what to fucking do, 

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right? 
And I cannabis definitely wasn't

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helping me at the time And and 
So what I did is I was able to 

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get on certain medications to 
help with anxiety and and 

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depression. 
And it's not necessarily. 

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Depression is the anxiety of 
life. 

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Do I want to die? 
Hell no. 

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Do I feel like I'm worthless? 
No. 

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Do I feel that everything is 
overwhelming? 

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Yeah, sometimes. 
And it became more frequent. 

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And my cannabis use was leading 
up to that. 

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It wasn't the cause of it. 
It was leading up to it. 

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You know what I mean? 
Yeah, When it's because that you

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weren't still addressing it 
either and that it's still 

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there. 
And so it was just something 

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that was constant and that 
cannabis just, you know, 

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probably hyper fixated at in 
those moments and that just 

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makes it worse. 
Well, and it's exactly, you just

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said it, you know, I wasn't 
addressing it. 

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I was addressing the underlying 
issue, what was going on. 

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And I can say yes, it was you 
know, my diabetes, which was a 

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part of it, but it was a lot of 
everything going on in my life. 

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And you know, to be honest, 
things have been going a lot 

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better and things are are doing 
well. 

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And you know what I'm involved 
in now? 

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It's been really rewarding and 
I've been seeing a lot of good 

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from it. 
But at the same time, it's 

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always in the back of my head 
that I'm not doing enough, that 

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I'm not good enough, that I 
gotta do more. 

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And and you know this and and 
many of you know this 'cause 

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you're dealing with the same. 
Struggle of feeling valued or 

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like that you bring the value or
all of this stuff. 

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And yeah, it's it's the constant
struggle. 

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But it's been hard. 
Like seeing you struggle with 

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that the last couple weeks, like
the last week has been fucking 

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tough for you. 
But yeah, that is bad. 

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We were playing video games 
couple nights ago and I didn't 

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tell him, 'cause I didn't, you 
know, wanna worry him. 

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But while we were playing this 
game, I am having a full blown 

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panic attack. 
I was holding the controller and

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my hands were like this. 
Is that why I beat you? 

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Holy shit, man. 
It never happens. 

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I was like, Oh my God, this 
fucking sucks. 

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And I was just like, I couldn't.
And you were like, yeah man, 

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well, hey, I'm good. 
I was like, alright, cool. 

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And I just laid in my wife's lap
just like fuck. 

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And I'm shaking, dude. 
My my teeth would chatter and my

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hands would would vibrate all 
day long. 

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And you know, today and I and I,
I was nervous about smoking 

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today. 
I really was nervous because I'm

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thinking fuck if this I. 
Was nervous for you. 

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I've been like, it's been the 
weirdest week because we we're 

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best friends and we usually talk
all the fucking time and I'm 

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not. 
And this week it's like, I know 

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you've been so crazy stressed 
and not that I'm like, yeah, I I

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can't, like I don't want to 
stress him out. 

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And he didn't. 
It just, it was just everything 

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in life. 
And so now, like, even, you 

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know, puffing on this was great,
I feel good. 

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I don't feel, I mean, do I feel 
a little bit in my chest? 

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Yeah, because it's cannabis. 
Like your blood pressure drops. 

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It's reverse tachycardias. 
What happens to you when you 

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first smoke? 
And so when your body notices 

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this drop, and noticing that 
there's nothing really wrong, 

441
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yeah, it increases your heart 
rate and then your heart rate 

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pumps the THC through your cyst.
Body real fast and. 

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Then about 10-15 minutes it 
starts to level out and feel 

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fine. 
They're strains that you don't 

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feel it at all in the chest, 
like that new one that we got to

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experiment with, with one day we
will give a name to. 

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And it was amazing because it it
literally took all of my panic 

448
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,280
and anxiety away. 
Yeah, high CBG, but like. 

449
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,480
It was incredible. 
Experience. 

450
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:27,040
So and it lasted hours one bull 
listen out I was it was 

451
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,720
absolutely amazing and and but 
at the same time like you know 

452
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,080
it's an enjoyable thing to me. 
Cannabis unites so many people 

453
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,360
it helps so many people whether 
it you know I would rather 

454
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:42,200
somebody saying you know I had 
some liquid courage saying I 

455
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,600
went out in the parking lot 
puffed a little bit and got out 

456
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,080
of myself saying why am I so 
fucking stressed about meeting 

457
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,000
new people. 
Yeah, and a lot of people do 

458
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,480
that shit. 
Oh. 

459
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,280
Yeah, I do all the time. 
The show yesterday that I came 

460
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,880
on, I actually, I puffed a 
little bit before but I actually

461
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,960
took a micro dose of psilocybin 
because I was like yeah, I just 

462
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,440
no, I it's been a weird month. 
It's been a hard. 

463
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,400
Yeah, it's been a hard month for
you too. 

464
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,640
And. 
But things are good. 

465
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,800
Things are good, things are 
great, so. 

466
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,360
Yeah, everything that happened 
with you and all that, I know 

467
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,560
we're all talking cryptically. 
If he wants to share, you can. 

468
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,280
My my dad had a crazy surgery 
and it was he had a really high 

469
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,520
risk thing. 
But he couldn't have made it 

470
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,160
through. 
And it scared the shit out of 

471
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,560
everyone. 
And the doctor didn't want to do

472
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,760
the surgery. 
And I basically rewrote his will

473
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,920
for him, went over and added 
like, trust addendums and stuff 

474
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,560
for the family and like, tried 
to spend as much time with him 

475
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,280
as I could. 
And then he, he made it out. 

476
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,480
Yeah, they pushed the surgery up
like a week early. 

477
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,200
And that was fucking scary. 
Scared the shit out of me, 

478
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,040
'cause I was like, wait, no, 
like I. 

479
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,280
Haven't had enough time like 
you. 

480
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,000
Just took a week from me maybe 
and then it went great and he 

481
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,640
came out and he's off being his 
normal crazy self walking and 

482
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,920
working and doing crap and crazy
bastard. 

483
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,200
I know so, but it's been crazy, 
stressful and so. 

484
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,840
So during that stress, did you 
find that you were using more 

485
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,600
cannabis or less cannabis? 
Both, yeah. 

486
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080
Depended on I actually. 
If you remembered. 

487
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,400
Yeah, I well, I used more in 
certain moments because I also 

488
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,760
stepped off my longboard funny 
and twisted my knee and my. 

489
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,400
Wrinkle. 
So I was using like high doses. 

490
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,880
Yeah, I was walking with a cane 
for three weeks and my it still 

491
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,920
is sore. 
Like it still feels really weird

492
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280
down my leg. 
But it's not, it doesn't hurt. 

493
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,800
It's just like a weird twingy, 
achy feeling now. 

494
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,920
But it's been crazy. 
So I I've just, I used more 

495
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,480
microdoses because I thought 
it'll help clear my headspace. 

496
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,840
And I am thankful for that 
because I have no idea what it 

497
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,080
would have been like if I 
didn't. 

498
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,120
But I definitely have utilized 
like more cannabis at times, but

499
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,840
then less at others because I'm 
like I'm spending more time with

500
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,520
my dad. 
So I'm not using as much 

501
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,520
cannabis because I'm hanging out
with my dad. 

502
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,640
But at the same time, I brought 
along my vaporizer and my dad 

503
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,360
saw me use it more than I. 
You know he's ever seen me 

504
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:24,720
consume. 
Well, and then, but 

505
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,760
understandably so. 
And that's another thing I'll 

506
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,640
be, you know, re evaluating it. 
Sometimes I feel that more use 

507
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,240
is not necessarily a bad thing 
because you are trying to be 

508
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,360
able to help your body. 
Now one of the things you'd 

509
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,120
brought up before, even with 
medications you don't just cut 

510
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,840
cold Turkey. 
I will say this. 

511
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,120
I feel bad for those who have a 
hardcore dependency on this, 

512
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,520
where if they go without, they 
feel it. 

513
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,880
I did not. 
Now I was more preoccupied with 

514
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,720
being fucking panicky all the 
time. 

515
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,600
I think it depends on what it 
is, 'cause I don't know if I 

516
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,080
would feel, I mean, I would feel
weird because it is always in my

517
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320
system and I would feel a lot 
more pain. 

518
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,840
But I don't know if I would 
honor, like, I don't feel a need

519
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,440
to take it. 
It's never like I need cannabis.

520
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,680
It's like, man, I'm hurting, 
man, I'm stressed, man. 

521
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,280
I'm whatever. 
And I've got something. 

522
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,720
I have a tool that I know will 
help with that because I know it

523
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,120
helps me with that. 
And so for me, I look at it and 

524
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,600
go man, am I stupid if I don't 
go use this tool I have that 

525
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,640
helps me and that's how I see it
sometimes. 

526
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,920
But then I also look at it and 
go man am I using this tool too 

527
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,920
much? 
Like. 

528
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,400
Do I need this tool this often? 
And so it's just looking at it 

529
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,280
differently? 
Like I actually through this 

530
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,200
month, I end up making my own 
THC infused lotion and I've been

531
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440
rubbing it on my leg every 
single day. 

532
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,360
And everywhere else. 
Yeah, everywhere else. 

533
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,320
Because I'm like, I want to be 
soft, Daddy. 

534
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,440
No, it's it's been good. 
But I think in that I've used 

535
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,680
less like smokables. 
I've also been thinking about 

536
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,480
making a tincture again, kind of
like we've been talking and 

537
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,840
going, hey, would that help? 
Just take like the For those who

538
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,680
use it for stress, would a 
tincture be great for that mild 

539
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,160
just taking the edge off through
the day? 

540
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,760
Oh yeah. 
Or, you know, like we had talked

541
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,880
about too. 
Like, I've been noticing that 

542
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,360
I've been coughing a lot more 
and wheezing sometimes. 

543
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,720
Like after I smoke like like, 
you know, I hear something like 

544
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,040
that and I'm like, what the? 
Fuck. 

545
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,960
And I clear my throat real 
quick, thinking that that's 

546
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,800
going to take care of it. 
Taking that time off, I already 

547
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,000
noticed a difference. 
And I'm I'm wondering if because

548
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,320
we talked about it a little too 
and I think the next tincture I 

549
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,920
make, I want to actually 
incorporate Mullen into the 

550
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,160
tincture. 
Just to kind of see how it 

551
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,080
affects to. 
See how it will help with like 

552
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,960
any congestion or that that does
come from consuming cannabis. 

553
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Nice. 
I like that. 

554
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,280
I like that because, I mean, 
it's something that'll help out.

555
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,200
I mean, even right now, like I 
feel it. 

556
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,960
I definitely feel in my head. 
I feel great. 

557
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,760
Like, I just feel so chill. 
And I'll tell you right now, it 

558
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,240
it has made it more intense. 
Did it make me regret going on a

559
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320
tea break? 
It was unintentional. 

560
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,800
But I thought, you know, 
sometimes maybe I don't need to 

561
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,000
use it every day. 
And that sounds strange to me 

562
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,240
because I use it every day. 
And so I'm just like, you know, 

563
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,680
I'm not gonna give myself a hard
time anymore for using it every 

564
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,480
day if I do. 
And if I wanna take a break, I 

565
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,560
wanna take a break. 
Yeah. 

566
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,520
It's just what what feels right 
for you and you know, don't 

567
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,560
shame yourself whether it's 
taking a break or not. 

568
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Like it's it's OK to take a 
break. 

569
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,640
Yeah, Or don't shame yourself 
because you know you've got a a 

570
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:56,120
significant other that is not 
really cool about you using. 

571
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,440
Like I met this kid at the gym, 
you know, weeks before this 

572
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,800
happened and he was like, you 
know, what do you do? 

573
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,040
And I joke around, of course, 
you know, I smoke pot for a 

574
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,640
living. 
And he was like, man, that's 

575
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,440
where it's at. 
And he's got like this Brigham 

576
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,320
Young University shirt, like the
Mormon of Mormon churches and 

577
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320
this kids wearing it. 
And I was like, well, that's 

578
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,520
awesome. 
Do you partake? 

579
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,320
And he goes, yeah, but I can't. 
I've got a fiance now and I'm 

580
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,680
like, what does that have 
anything to do with? 

581
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,920
And he goes, well, she'd be 
really upset with it. 

582
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,640
And I'm like, oh, so you lied to
her. 

583
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,960
And the girl was like their 
friend. 

584
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,720
She's like, yeah. 
And they're like, look, if 

585
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,720
you're not going to be honest 
with yourself or her, then dude,

586
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,160
what's the point? 
Like if you using it just to 

587
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,760
have fun. 
I totally get it. 

588
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,600
I totally. 
Get it if you're If you can't be

589
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,320
honest with yourself or your 
partner, that's hard. 

590
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,920
And then you need to re 
evaluate. 

591
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Do I need to continue doing 
this? 

592
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,600
Do I want to continue to do it? 
Do I enjoy the feeling or do I 

593
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,760
just do I do. 
I see. 

594
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Is there benefit and value that 
I'm actually getting from this, 

595
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,760
right? 
And then, yeah, it might be 

596
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,720
several conversations over many 
months or years with your 

597
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,760
partner going because like every
one of us, this stigma has been 

598
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,880
perpetuated through everything. 
Oh yeah. 

599
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240
And so it's even we've talked 
about it. 

600
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,560
Oh, hey, am I consuming too much
over the years? 

601
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,800
All the time? 
Yeah. 

602
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,280
Because it's like, oh, maybe I 
should take a tea break, because

603
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,480
I feel like. 
Maybe I'm using it too much, 

604
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,360
maybe I'm too dependent upon it.
Yeah. 

605
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,240
And versus just seeing it like 
anything else, I'm just. 

606
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Gonna take a break? 
Yeah. 

607
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,480
And that. 
And that's OK. 

608
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Like, it's it's like a diet. 
It really is a diet. 

609
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400
And there's certain things like 
we get our greens every day, 

610
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280
right? 
And we like our greens. 

611
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,520
No big deal. 
But at the same time, am I doing

612
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,280
too much? 
Maybe. 

613
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,040
But that's it for me to decide, 
not anybody else. 

614
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120
And so it's like, you know, kind
of concluding all this is that 

615
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,720
it's OK for me to take time off 
with it, with feeling out. 

616
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,600
I have to have it. 
If you struggle with pain, if if

617
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,080
this actually helps with your 
anxiety, then I wouldn't stop 

618
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,000
and I wouldn't. 
I wouldn't feel bad about it. 

619
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,480
I don't need to tell anybody. 
I'm sorry for using more. 

620
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,180
But it's always good. 
Just maybe it's good to re 

621
00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:14,520
evaluate what your consumption 
looks like. 

622
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,600
Or what you're consuming, right?
Maybe it's maybe too much flour,

623
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,080
Maybe you're smoking way too 
much flame to flour and you 

624
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,760
start to develop a smell around 
you, dude. 

625
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Like after a while, like, I I 
just was not sensitive to the 

626
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,440
smell of cannabis. 
My wife's like our closet reeks 

627
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,720
and I'm like what? 
I'm like it's in a it's it's in 

628
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,560
a box. 
It's just like it's still reek 

629
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,880
and then Roz like and then days 
after like going in I'm like Oh 

630
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,960
my God it fucking stinks in 
here. 

631
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,120
So then I got a new smell proof 
bag and took it all away. 

632
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,520
So it's just like, you know, OK 
yeah, I'm, I was way more 

633
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440
sensitive. 
I'm actually looking forward to 

634
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,680
enjoying it differently now 
because I think I'll be a little

635
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,880
bit more sensitive and the 
flavors are more pronounced. 

636
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,040
It's just good every once in a 
while, just good. 

637
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,440
Declare the palate maybe a few 
days, maybe a week. 

638
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,960
Yeah. 
Some people go like a whole 

639
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,440
month or a year and they're 
like, yeah, I'm just taking it 

640
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,080
off. 
Well, if you really want to 

641
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,719
experience that same euphoria 
the first times you're mowing 

642
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,400
the lawn got really high, you 
can. 

643
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000
You can take that tolerance 
break, let those receptors come 

644
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,480
back and go, experience some 
really fun new highs again, but 

645
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,520
at the same time, be cautious 
because that also comes with all

646
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,000
the new fun experiences that you
might have started with the 

647
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,040
first time. 
Yeah. 

648
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,880
And also on top of that, like 
thinking that your tolerance 

649
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,360
will just magically go lower 
because of that. 

650
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,199
That's a misconception. 
Yeah, it doesn't necessarily 

651
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:42,719
mean that your tolerance like 
that. 

652
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,320
You can't handle the high doses.
My buddy took a year off of 

653
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,639
cannabis and he came back and 
could smoke just as much or take

654
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,159
as many edibles and yeah, not 
worry about getting crazy high 

655
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,000
to the moon. 
And it was. 

656
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,440
Even now, like I mean I I smoke 
this and I feel fine. 

657
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,240
Oh yeah, I believe that. 
Totally fine. 

658
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:07,520
And it's just part of it. 
But I I just you know, 

659
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680
concluding on it. 
I really, you know, I want to 

660
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,120
stress it do not feel bad about 
your cannabis shoes. 

661
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Don't feel like others judging. 
You need to weigh on your 

662
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,320
decision. 
That's your decision alone. 

663
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,600
If it becomes a problem, if 
that's getting in the way of 

664
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,360
your work or your relationships 
or even your own productivity, 

665
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,720
yeah, re evaluate it going shit,
am I turning into a fucking 

666
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,680
Stoner because I there's a Gen. 
I function do I like? 

667
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,280
Am I still the human or? 
Am IA I'm a Stoner? 

668
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,320
Or am IA functional Stoner? 
And I'm a functional Stoner. 

669
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,440
I can do a lot of things. 
I can complete a lot of tasks, 

670
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,520
but if I was just staying home, 
getting high all the time, man, 

671
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I even thought about that. 
If I was rich, fuck. 

672
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,000
What would I do? 
I'd be bored, I couldn't do. 

673
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,560
That I would. 
I would build A room on my house

674
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that had ventilation to just 
pull it out of that room all the

675
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time so nobody would know. 
Well, my neighbors would 

676
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,200
definitely know, right? 
But but you know, I would don't 

677
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,800
get rid of the house like his 
dad smoking in here. 

678
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,480
Like, fuck, no. 
Like, yeah, 'cause I built this 

679
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fucking room. 
All right. 

680
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,920
But even that, like, yes, I 
might smoke, but I would still 

681
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,400
do so much because it's it's not
something that I can never just 

682
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,400
sit there all day. 
Right. 

683
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,480
But it's, I don't know, just 
just re evaluating it let. 

684
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Us know if you guys are re 
evaluating your relationship 

685
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,640
with cannabis or like want to 
help with that? 

686
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,720
Let us know Reach out. 
Yeah, yeah. 

687
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,280
And thanks all the Patreon 
members. 

688
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,840
You know, we love you guys. 
We've really been, you know, we 

689
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,480
get more and more support. 
It's not tons and it's really 

690
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,280
helping us out. 
You know, we're actually trying 

691
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,160
to raise money up to get new 
cameras. 

692
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,360
Our cameras are getting a little
older. 

693
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,960
So we want to make sure that we 
got decent cameras to be able to

694
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continue making good content 
like we do out here. 

695
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,360
And also remember that on 
Thursdays the sesh drops every 

696
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Thursday. 
Now being able to see full 

697
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,080
interviews, see some discussions
between Brandon and I. 

698
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,640
Some cool cannabis infused 
conversations. 

699
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:09,760
So TuneIn.
