1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,800 I'm Brandon. And I'm. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,880 Jesse we're cannabis school having cannabis infused 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,200 conversations with everyday people, cannabis companies, 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,200 celebrities and your mom. Welcome to the Sash. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,080 Let. Me ask you something, when you 6 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:23,080 were growing up, did your parents have a good relationship 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:33,280 with money? No, a lot of the reasons why is 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,280 my father was an immigrant, didn't speak the language, so it 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,800 was kind of hard for him to get a job. 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,120 He would only have like basic, you go first, you go first. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,040 He'd have like just a lot of Labor jobs, didn't require a 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,800 whole lot, janitorial jobs, things like that, while he was 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,560 learning the English, but from a young age. 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,480 Cut that out or you leave. It by the base, can't grab it by 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,840 the tip on. That oh you have to hold the 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,720 button. Or, you know, just push it once 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,760 and let go, and once it turns green then it's good. 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,800 There you go. And as soon as it changes from 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,560 green then it's no longer heating. 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:22,520 There you go. Nah, no worries. 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,600 But my dad, he, he would save. He would save, OK. 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,640 And my mom. She's fear of not having money. 23 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:34,560 She would spend well because she grew up with money. 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,480 You know, her dad did really well. 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Her mom worked at a college. Like they never really needed 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,640 anything. She grew up with her dad, like 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,920 having boats and stuff like that. 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,240 He was a really good sales guy, apparently, but he wasn't the 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,200 nicest person. And at a young age, 18, she ran 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,720 away from home and came to Utah. And that's where she met my dad. 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,960 And my dad didn't speak very much English and he was just 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,080 visiting because he had served an LDS mission, which is like. 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,640 He was just visiting and they met. 34 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,560 Well, he was just checking it out because he wanted to know 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,040 what what he was what's up with Utah? 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,840 And then when he came here, he was just like, it's OK, you 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,760 know, go back home. He was going to go back and be a 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,080 lawyer. And instead he met my mom. 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,600 And my mom was like, she wanted to be with him. 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,400 And so she let him know and and they got married a little after 41 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,400 that. And then they had a miscarriage. 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,760 And then they had me. But the problem was, is that we 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,200 grew up in poverty. We didn't know what to do. 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,520 And my dad, like they would tell him, like, just get an education 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,840 and you'll climb up the ranks. And my dad. 46 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:39,080 That's what was told was valuable. 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,640 In what way? Yeah. 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,640 It's still propagated today and I don't, I don't, I really don't 49 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:45,200 agree with that, depending on what you're doing. 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,960 Yeah, and there can be value. Totally. 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,160 There's a lot of I enjoyed college, I loved college. 52 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,600 I had a great time, yeah, but my dad trying to. 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,840 Stayed here instead of going to be an attorney. 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,440 Yeah, he got a degree in like hotel management. 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,040 There was actually a degree, Yeah, when UVU was UVSC, That's 56 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,040 funny, when it was just that tiny little building. 57 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,680 My dad went there too, yeah. And my dad went there and got 58 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,720 this degree, this completely, utterly worthless degree. 59 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,080 But back then being a hotel manager was it meant something. 60 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,480 It was a position, it was a, it was a career. 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,760 And it was just disheartening because my dad never made a lot 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,080 of money, but he never went without because my dad would 63 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,840 work like two or three jobs because that's what he did. 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,360 He learned that from a very young age. 65 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,040 He got kicked out of of school, elementary school, because he 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,000 was messing around and down there, school is a privilege, 67 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,240 not a right. And he didn't. 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,680 So they just kicked him out, send him home. 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,080 And then his mom's like, well, if you're not going to school, 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,200 you're working, so go get a job. So we got a job at like 11 or 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,640 12. That's crazy. 72 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,120 And then worked, he, he got all of his clothes tailored, made to 73 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,760 him. He really liked clothes. 74 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,400 And that's all he did. He'd do clothes, go hang out 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,800 with his friends, get in trouble, go right around on the 76 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,200 subway. Like after, after that, like my 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,800 dad just never made any money and my mom was always home with 78 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,200 us. So we really didn't make any 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,240 money. And then my mom got a job, my 80 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,920 dad got a job. And then they started to do kind 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,760 of better, but they never really had any money until my 82 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,839 grandfather died, left my mom everything. 83 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:22,520 Yeah. Got the money. 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,880 They build a house, buy a bunch of shit. 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,040 My mom gets a great job with a tech company at the time, which 86 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,320 was one of the few that are around here. 87 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,160 Novell. Yeah. 88 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,800 And she was doing really good there in the IT department. 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,840 Oh, it was massive. Novell was a massive company. 90 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,040 Oh yeah. I mean it still is a good size, 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,520 but like not in. Nowhere near what it used. 92 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,000 To tech companies now. Right. 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,760 But. And so she she had was starting 94 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,360 to make like real money, like even back then in the 90s, like 95 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,480 my mom was making probably I don't, I'm not sure, but it was 96 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,600 quite a bit more than what people make today, right? 97 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:01,280 Both my parents are making money and yet I never saw them do 98 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,280 really well with it. They had a four O 1K and all 99 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:07,600 that other stuff, but they never really taught us how to be smart 100 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:14,040 with money. And I'm kind of glad because I 101 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,840 never found value in money even as a kid, other than it gets me 102 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,920 things. But it really inherently is not 103 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,840 valuable. And I'd learned early on because 104 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:27,720 I grew up poor, that my friends were more important than the 105 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,120 things that I own. They didn't judge me because I 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,120 didn't have like a completely put together Optimus Prime 107 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,440 that's not missing its left hand, right? 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,560 Or all the same cool toys and things that they had, right? 109 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,120 And yeah, that doesn't matter. And yours was similar in a way, 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,320 but it was like more forced on like, Nope, we're staying in 111 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,960 this budget. This is what we have. 112 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,560 We I never knew we had any money. 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:57,920 So when we had we didn't take my first trip out of the state till 114 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:03,680 I was 14. And then we took a road trip and 115 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,800 we drove down to Tijuana and then up into California. 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,880 And that was the first time I had seen the beach. 117 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,840 That was the first time I had left the state. 118 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,600 We went, that was the first time I'd left the country. 119 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,760 So we went down to Mexico and that was the very first time 120 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,120 that we had taken any trip. And it was always just different 121 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,720 because, you know, we grew up. I grew up in the same 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,920 neighborhood with all the kids at school and that a buddy he 123 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,240 his family every year they would go to Disneyland and he'd gone 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:46,360 to Hawaii like 7 times and it was 6th grade and my dad had 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,560 finally been doing his own business. 126 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,080 You know, cuz he, when I was young, he worked at Stouffer's 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,400 like he was on a assembly line and that he was a manager there 128 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,440 and then he helped his dad do construction and build apartment 129 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,840 complexes and homes and things. And then after Stouffer's, he 130 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:08,440 was a mailman. Like he was a mailman for years. 131 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,960 And it wasn't until he, they thought that he was actually 132 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:20,440 like doing something wrong because he was working and 133 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,520 getting his route that was like double other people's route done 134 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,520 way sooner than these other people are getting done just 135 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,760 with their normal route. And they end up having him. 136 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:39,320 He was paid for however long while they had other people try 137 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,760 and do his routes. And it took two people to do his 138 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,680 route that he was doing on his own because he was just, he's a 139 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,200 hard worker and he would always go, go, go. 140 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,560 But we never, I never grew up thinking we had money, you know, 141 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,560 we didn't have nice cars. We didn't have like fancy 142 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,120 clothes. We lived in a in a decent 143 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,040 neighborhood, you know, but it wasn't the nicest home in the 144 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,040 neighborhood. Like it was just, we were 145 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,800 normal, I thought. But then it was like we didn't 146 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,480 have all of the same foods, all the same snacks, all the things. 147 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:21,800 My mom ground flour, she grind weed up to make flour and would 148 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,440 hand make bread every week. Like every meal was basically 149 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,680 homemade because it's cheaper. And you know, my parents didn't 150 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,640 go out a lot because that cost. We didn't go out because of that 151 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,240 cost. You know, everything was done in 152 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,159 a very frugal way. You know what we bought? 153 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,240 My mom would buy us school shoes that were three like they were 154 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,680 big and she'd be like cool, this is 2 years of school shoes now. 155 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,440 Like, you know, she was just so frugal because her parents were 156 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,800 incredibly frugal. Oh. 157 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,680 Yeah. And so my dad, his side, I 158 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:04,600 guess, my grand, my grandpa on my dad's side, he worked his ass 159 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,200 off. He worked really hard and 160 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,920 everything. Like he tried to build something 161 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,880 up and it would get ripped out from under them. 162 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Like they lost millions of dollars upon millions of 163 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,320 dollars. And that was back then. 164 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,960 And hearing their struggle and their story, it's just, it's 165 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,600 crazy. But I understand, like my dad's 166 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,440 drive and need to make money and work really hard because that's 167 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,840 how he knew. And seeing his dad work really 168 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,080 hard, like, even through everything, it was like, yeah, 169 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,560 they were able to do stuff. But my dad, I've learned more as 170 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,200 I've gotten older because I've connected more with my dad. 171 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,520 And we've had real conversations about what his childhood was 172 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,240 like, what his dad was actually like. 173 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,200 Because the grandpa I knew was, you know, Grumpy didn't want us 174 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,040 around. You know, it was like, I already 175 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,800 saw you this week or I saw you last week. 176 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Like, you know, very different. But his side, like I feel like 177 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,240 they always in my eyes, it seemed like they had money, 178 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,360 seemed like they were super well to do because, you know, they 179 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,760 lived in this home by the river, they had a pool. 180 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,080 They, you know, had a big boat and stuff. 181 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,480 But I didn't know any of the things that actually went on in 182 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,960 their life. My mom, when we started earning 183 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,720 money, it was like, Hey, you get 10% goes to God because you pay 184 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,400 tithing and then 50% goes to savings. 185 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:38,880 She didn't teach us what that was for what anything did. 186 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,600 It was just like, no, you just save it because it like her 187 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,560 parents, she was afraid of not having money. 188 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,880 So she saved and saved and saved and saved. 189 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,000 She was really smart. I learned she paid off their 190 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,320 first house in 10 years. Like that's a big feat. 191 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:03,520 But I, you know, they never really passed that understanding 192 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,720 down to me. And then as I've gotten older 193 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,960 and I've done more study and research on things on my own 194 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,040 and, and businesses and trusts and just like the entity 195 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,080 structure and how taxes and like all of that forms and flows. 196 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,440 It's, it's been interesting because I've learned cool. 197 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,680 Well, my parents have trusts and business like all these things 198 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:29,960 set up that they never taught me, all of these values that 199 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,320 really could have benefited me, especially in so much I've done 200 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,440 in life or wanted to do in life or could have done, you know, So 201 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,320 it's just looking at our understanding of money, our 202 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,320 relationship with money, our understanding of how to budget 203 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,840 even, you know, and. Well, staying within a 204 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,480 parameter, I like the the budgeting like I've tried to do 205 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,960 budgets. It never works for me. 206 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,440 And it's not that I spend money on frivolous things, like I, I 207 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,120 rarely will spend money on myself. 208 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,320 I don't care about it. I really don't care about it. 209 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,240 I I just get it because I know I need it in order for me to be 210 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,320 able to survive in this world. Because it could be like fucking 211 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,320 bottle caps tomorrow. And then I'll be like, yeah, I 212 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,840 just need bottle caps. Like, because that's going to be 213 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,520 able to unless I'm living off the land on my own, which will 214 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,520 take a long time to be able to accomplish that. 215 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,720 So I'll still need money for anyways to be able to get goods 216 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,000 until I'm self sustainable because it's not instantaneous. 217 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,800 No, but even that I think about it and it's like it would be a 218 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,080 fantastic to be self sustainable, self reliant, but 219 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:39,280 what does that look like? And and my thing I'm like the 220 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,520 biggest thing is food. Like it's great. 221 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,640 Yeah, I can you know, I can do so many things, but I still use 222 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:48,960 rice. I don't, I don't know how to 223 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,520 grow rice. I don't want to try and learn or 224 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,600 have rice fields to do that. You know, same with like certain 225 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,240 things that I'm like, all right, meat sparingly. 226 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,880 If you're doing that, maybe you go hunt or maybe you have a cow 227 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,320 or two. Like there's smart ways to do 228 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,840 that. But there's other things like, 229 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:10,240 OK, well, all of the conveniences and things in life. 230 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:13,040 Well, maybe you're not getting chocolate then, because if 231 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,920 you're self reliant and are you growing your own cocoa beans 232 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,160 like your own cow? Like because I imagine that's 233 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,920 climate specific maybe or region specific or even just, but I 234 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,440 don't know. I've not looked into that. 235 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Could I move out to 100%? Well, I still need Internet for 236 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,640 things because I have to upload the show. 237 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,360 I have to, you know, there's things that require data, you 238 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,960 know, specific things that I'm like, all right, well, how would 239 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,920 I incorporate or do these things? 240 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,240 And yeah, there's ways to navigate that now, thankfully, 241 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,760 but it does, it does require money in order to do a lot of 242 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,080 that stuff. Like you said, budgeting. 243 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,600 I've never actually sat down and budgeted out. 244 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,560 See, my wife does, though. My wife is very good at it. 245 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:04,560 And that's kind of what I was was wanting to, you know, when 246 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,280 you brought the subject, I was like, oh, you know, this is a 247 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,680 perspective that I've learned because as we all have different 248 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:15,320 behaviors, we also do things differently and should not be 249 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,200 wanting to learn something else. If you think back like a long 250 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,720 time ago where they used to make swords, that blacksmith didn't 251 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,720 also make pottery. And that pottery maybe if you 252 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,360 didn't do black in his like, yeah, hobby time, but I don't 253 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:32,720 know. How? 254 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,240 I don't think they had hobbies. You know, because this, that was 255 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,920 their life and that's what they did. 256 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,960 But it's they were the best at it. 257 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,880 Like when you'd get like when. Oh, yeah. 258 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,960 You know, the only thing I really know about, like, a 259 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,880 blacksmith, like in anything else, is going to be from 260 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,120 fantasy. Right? 261 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,000 Yeah. Games and that, yeah, it's like, 262 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,440 oh, it's the blacksmith, go there. 263 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,320 But then watching a blacksmith actually work like to use it. 264 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Like back then you put in countless amount of time into 265 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,400 doing this. This is what you did day in and 266 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,440 day out and you provided this really great service and then 267 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,880 you were able to start deciding what you what they do and then 268 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,760 they consider you more valuable, the more artistry you could put 269 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,240 into. It because it's a skill. 270 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,480 Yeah. How many of us have lost skills? 271 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Well, through technology. Let's talk about that like. 272 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,840 100%. How many of them are, you know, 273 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,480 like, I know how to do quite a bit of mechanic work now on my 274 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,600 own, and it's hilarious how many people I meet that don't even 275 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,160 know how to be like. How to change a tire? 276 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,080 How to even? Put oil in their car. 277 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,440 Yeah, how to? That's a little surprising. 278 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Right. And it's just kind of like, wow. 279 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,960 But all the things that I know how to do now, I know my kids 280 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,840 don't know how to do. And so one of the things like a 281 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,280 great way you talked about it already, a great way to be able 282 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,640 to start finding ways to cut costs, to start planning out 283 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,880 these meals and seeing what you can actually create with very 284 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,080 little. Now, I was fortunate enough to 285 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,680 grow up poor during the 80s and 90s. 286 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,200 So that was awesome because I learned that I don't have to 287 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,640 have the best things in order for me to be happy. 288 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,440 And a matter of fact, the bless that we had, I wasn't as 289 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,520 gluttonous. Now I'm not gluttonous at all. 290 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,120 Need to truly be happy. You don't need a lot. 291 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,160 No. We just live in the world of 292 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,080 desires and wants that it's like, totally, But I'm used to 293 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,480 having what I want. It's like that friend I was 294 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,960 telling you about, you know, where they really wanted to be 295 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,240 making a certain amount of money that they were making before. 296 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,320 Yeah, but that was then, This is now. 297 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,960 And the amount that they asked for was really high. 298 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,840 And they were like, yeah, that's high. 299 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,320 Yeah, I don't know if we could do that, but all right. 300 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,320 And it, it just turned in to be, it didn't work out. 301 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,320 And it's these expectations we have. 302 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,640 So looking at things, you know, and it's, it's not necessarily 303 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,359 cutting everything out, right? So like. 304 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,079 Not everything. Costco is a great resource. 305 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,760 Oh yeah. You know, however you feel about 306 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,160 big corporations, all that. It's a great resource, 307 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,680 especially when you're on a budget because then you can be 308 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,800 able to find the things like big ass bags of rice, which used to 309 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,040 be super cheap. Now it's like what, 27 dollars? 310 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,640 I just bought one at Costco the other day. 311 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:30,160 It's like Jasmine rice was like 20 I think. 312 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Sushi rice is usually 18, brown rice is about 12, so it's not 313 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,520 too bad. I usually eat sushi rice it. 314 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,200 Is more than it used to be. Yeah, it used to be like 12 315 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,280 bucks for, yeah, 1213 bucks. Yeah, I was like, cool. 316 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,520 But it is just ways to look at and go, do I need like we used 317 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,920 to have 3-4 different streaming services and it was like, we 318 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,680 don't, we don't need these. We don't actually use. 319 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,880 Yeah, many of them. I'm at the point now with 320 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Netflix where I just want to cancel that because I don't 321 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,280 watch it ever. Yeah, randomly. 322 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,480 Will I watch it? But it goes, I feel like it goes 323 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,720 in that way and you, you get one because there's some new show or 324 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,880 new shows that you're like, I want to watch that. 325 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,920 So you get it and you watch the shows and it's like, all right, 326 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,800 well, I, I could be good now. And then honestly, I think that 327 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,920 would be fine. You know, it's like every few 328 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,600 months you get it for a couple months and then you just stop 329 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,880 using it for a few months because there's nothing good out 330 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,200 and you've watched what you've watched and why keep spending 331 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,600 the money on it just because it's like you could? 332 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Well, the streaming services are doing exactly what they used to 333 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,200 do before. I mean, they just don't provide 334 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,160 as much value anymore. Like, you know, all the shows 335 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,040 that you can see there, you could see pretty much anywhere 336 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,880 now. And because they don't have a 337 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,040 tight. And it just it they they become 338 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,240 HBO. You remember HBO back in the 339 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,280 day? Yeah. 340 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,640 Like you get up for one month and you're like all these movies 341 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,800 are great, and then you saw all the movies and they keep 342 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,560 replaying that movie. You're not doing any new movies. 343 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,120 We've already seen them. So then it's like, all right, I 344 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:08,440 don't need to keep paying for that. 345 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,680 It's and it's. Expensive as fuck now dude. 346 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Yeah, well, Even so, like PSN, we play online and that's gone 347 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,960 up this year. So now it's. 348 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Like $82.00 with tax 8585. Mine just renewed and I was like 349 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,240 what the hell so. Yeah, I was pretty frustrated. 350 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Mine renewed on its own too. I was like damn. 351 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,600 It, I was at dinner with my family and I was talking to my 352 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,920 brothers about it and like it's just, I feel like it's not that 353 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,240 valuable anymore. And it sucks because back in the 354 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,760 day we could play for free and the games, it didn't need 355 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,320 updates and stuff. When they developed it, it was 356 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,560 on a disk. You put it in your thing and it 357 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,760 worked and you played it. That was it, and it was like 358 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,880 there wasn't all this added shit. 359 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,520 Yeah, you know why though, right? 360 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,680 Because that's how you make money. 361 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Yeah, this. I mean, they got corporatized. 362 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:00,760 Yeah. That the people who are making 363 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,000 the decisions to make games now, like, and even that too, like 364 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,600 thinking about video games, is it, is it more of a hobby or is 365 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,840 it something that you need? And a lot of times we'll say we 366 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,600 need that, but we don't. And that's why I don't feel like 367 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,840 I have a problem with video games. 368 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,200 I enjoy them, but they don't. They don't need to be on my list 369 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,960 of things I get done today. Oh no, and there's there's quite 370 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,000 a few days I don't have it ever on the list at all. 371 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,560 So they can be fun and there's moments that I really enjoy. 372 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,120 I love when we played a game, like play games together. 373 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,000 You know, that's a lot of fun. Every once in a while I can 374 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,040 really get into a game, but for the most part, like it's not my 375 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,520 like, hey, I need to do this kind of like we talked before, 376 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,160 finding enjoyment in life, like what it is you're doing in life 377 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,520 that you're not needing to get pulled off because like, hey, 378 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,640 today was work was hard. Isn't work normally hard? 379 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,160 What's the difference between that and every other day at 380 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,760 work? Is it any different? 381 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,240 Or is this just now the coping mechanism or the thing that we 382 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,120 have given ourselves as like this is how we're choosing to 383 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:13,000 decompress, you know, And and that's that's fine. 384 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Everyone has their, their coping mechanism, their vice, their 385 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,120 whatever makes them happy or whatever helps clear their mind 386 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:24,400 At the end of the day, for everyone that's different. 387 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,280 Sometimes what people need and, and everyone's hobbies are 388 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,240 different. So for some people it might be a 389 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,200 story and they're really into stories. 390 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,160 And so for them it's like, like I read a book and sometimes they 391 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,760 do, or sometimes they play a fantasy game and get really into 392 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,760 this story. You know, maybe to them that is 393 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,440 that same thing, because don't yuck someone's yams. 394 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,880 Yeah, well, I mean, and I want to go back to what you'd said 395 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,800 before too about PSM, because, you know, thinking about being 396 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,120 able to save money. 8085, is it 85? 397 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,360 You said? Yeah, $85 for that one. 398 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:00,640 But if you think about it like that's where I, I see the value 399 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,760 in it is that, well, every month I'm going to get three games and 400 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,400 I also get to be able to play online and, and I get it now 401 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,920 because of so many people being on the servers. 402 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,760 They have to be able to support. It and it takes a ton like you 403 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,000 know, you ever play game where it's failing is mean that they 404 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,720 didn't prepare that because they just start failing. 405 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,320 There's just not enough space. There's not enough memory, 406 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,280 there's not enough. RAM or they get a lot of new 407 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,480 player influx and that causes server overload because they're 408 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,080 not meant to support that many because they never expected that 409 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,000 many. No so, and they're big. 410 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,720 Power draw, There's some sorts of stuff, yeah. 411 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,760 But it's. And it's just like everything 412 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,440 with that. So the whole point of that 413 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,120 tangent was I gone to dinner and was talking to my brothers about 414 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:48,400 it. And Curtis buys every game he 415 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,360 pays for the highest level of PSN. 416 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:54,280 That's $185. Yeah, it's got like tons of free 417 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,920 games and weird shit. Doesn't play a single one. 418 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,440 No, he doesn't even play his PlayStation. 419 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Wife doesn't play. The only one is his like 8 year 420 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,960 old son. That's the only one. 421 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,920 And he pays for that every month. 422 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,720 And then he was like, oh, and I have two Xboxes that aren't even 423 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,160 plugged in. I don't think they've been 424 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,280 plugged in in a year. And he still pays for the 425 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,400 monthly Xbox pass as well. And I'm like, you're literally 426 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,960 just throwing money out the window. 427 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,880 He's a digital hoarder. Yes, 100%. 428 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,280 He's a digital hoarder, like he gets everything, like 429 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,200 subscriptions and all sorts of stuff. 430 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:29,880 Like you don't, you don't play any of these. 431 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,760 No, my, my other brother was like, oh, this game's coming out 432 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,720 or this one, Curtis is like, Oh yeah, I'll probably get that. 433 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,080 And times like you won't ever play it though so. 434 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,800 Yeah, he's, he's compulsive with it. 435 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,880 Like even when when I was younger and I was like a rock 436 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,960 Mason. Yeah. 437 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,640 And I lived all the way up in the mountains and Curtis and I 438 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,760 would play like Gran Turismo online on our PS threes. 439 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:01,680 That's funny. And yeah, it was so bad. 440 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,680 I had like Blue Net and it was so we paid for. 441 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,080 Like the top one? $120.00 a month and I'm getting 442 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,480 like a total of like 500 Meg a month of download I could get. 443 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,880 Oh, limited per month. Limited per month and it sucked 444 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,280 and it was really frustrating, but at the time it wasn't like 445 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,160 now now it would be beyond frustrating. 446 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,000 You couldn't do anything. Yeah, you. 447 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,920 And that's why I don't find value in living all the way out 448 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,400 there because I I do things there now if it was forced to 449 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,600 hey, that's a different thing. But yeah, dude, I I feel that 450 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,720 way about everything. I'm just like thinking like 451 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,520 what? What am I doing right now to try 452 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,280 and be able to go look? I don't need that and I can find 453 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,920 enjoyment somewhere else. Sometimes it's not even I don't 454 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,360 need that. Sometimes it's even looking at 455 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,240 it and going how can I adjust this? 456 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,600 Like for me I don't drink tons of coffee but I do have a cup 457 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,880 everyday and I found that. Ordering bulk and roasting your 458 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,600 own. Ended up being cheaper and I 459 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:12,360 save money doing that and I'd end up finding out that that is 460 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:16,040 such better coffee anyway than anything I can get from the 461 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,320 store and Bennett. Now Bennett text me this 462 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,400 morning. I was going to text him the 463 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,400 other day and see if he had found any better espresso beans. 464 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,280 Emily was looking for some to see if she could find some local 465 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,320 because every bean that we've tried since I started roasting. 466 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,400 It just doesn't. Taste as good, doesn't it? 467 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,200 Tastes burnt. It tastes like grow. 468 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,960 It doesn't taste. Well, they do them in such large 469 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,040 batches, it's really hard to be able to temperature control and. 470 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,240 So did you ever have Highlander grog down? 471 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,040 At one of my favorites, yeah. Used to be 1 of mine I thought 472 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,440 too. But what? 473 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,440 What happened? What changed it? 474 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,360 Well, it has hazelnut notes. Yeah. 475 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,080 All I could taste and smell was hazelnut. 476 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,280 Yeah, since. Since roasting mine, that is it. 477 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,160 It literally just Emily has some inside and we tried it. 478 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,280 That was the first cup of coffee that I have. 479 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,120 I took like 2-3 sips and I was like I I can't, I can't drink 480 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,520 this. I have drank Starbucks coffee, 481 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,080 which I think is gross and I hate. 482 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:22,320 I've drank McDonald's coffee and that Highlander grog through a 483 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,880 French press, just black, nothing in it. 484 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,400 I couldn't drink. It was like, this is super 485 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,560 gross. The hazelnut tasted artificial. 486 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840 It tasted guaranteed. There was artificial hazelnut 487 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,200 flavouring in there, and I'm like you. 488 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,480 Ever touched the beans? They're almost sticky so they 489 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,640 put shit in that. Yeah, so I, I just, and I 490 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800 thought about it and I was like, man, I swear I used to love 491 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,920 Highlander Croc. I thought years ago that it was 492 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,000 a good coffee. I I could have sworn. 493 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,680 So I don't know if they changed. Probably because you were 494 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,800 drinking a lot more than and so. Well, in different coffees I 495 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,640 wasn't as particular on the bean. 496 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,680 I was still getting beans and grinding them, but it wasn't 497 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,920 until I went to Sprouts that they had better beans. 498 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,640 And then after that I didn't get any beans from anywhere else 499 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,160 because I never met except for like farmers markets. 500 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,960 I get specialty beans from ones, but I find that those are like 501 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,240 $20 a pound, $20.00 for half a pound. 502 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,280 Yeah, it's used sparingly. And then the, and then the roast 503 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,480 is hit or miss. It's like they could be as good 504 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,520 as the one it sprouts. They could be just as like 505 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,080 Highlander grog or something else. 506 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,800 And then I'm spending $20 on the pound. 507 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,040 And so yeah, Bennett this morning text me because he's 508 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,320 going to get into roasting his own. 509 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,080 Oh, nice. So he asked about a roaster. 510 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,640 I sent him the one that I get. And then he was saying that 511 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,080 Amazon offers green beans. And I was like, Oh no, I sent 512 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,000 him the place that I go to because everywhere that I had 513 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,520 read, I went to Reddit forums, I went to other places, everywhere 514 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,120 that I was reading, all the roasters who are roasting is 515 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,920 like, no, you like home roasting another. 516 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:05,120 I go here like Sweet Maria's has way better beans and I have. 517 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,080 Not wanting to go back. I can't it is like it is so hard 518 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:15,120 to enjoy any other coffee because they just they don't 519 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,160 taste anywhere near the same. I taste like the sourness, the 520 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,000 burntness, all the other like defects. 521 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,680 Basically it tastes like with their coffee and it just turned 522 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,760 me into like quite the snob with it. 523 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,120 No, dude, you know what you like. 524 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,440 You know it's a that's a way. But that's a great way to be 525 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,000 able to save money, get lots of flavor, lots of taste, enjoy 526 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,280 your coffee. So invest into like a coffee 527 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,800 roaster. What's a coffee roaster going to 528 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,040 go for? That depends on how much you do. 529 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,600 Like there's one that's about 200 bucks. 530 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,920 You could get one like that. There's another one. 531 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,600 The one I have honestly was like 75 bucks from Sweet Marie's and 532 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,480 that's a great way to start. And if you just, it does maybe 533 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,400 1/3, 1/5 of a pound at a time. So it's not very, they're really 534 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,400 small roasts. Yeah, but that's kind of good 535 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,000 though, because it keeps your. Well, then you can really play 536 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,160 with it and adjust. So you go, hey, this one I did 537 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640 exactly this time, this time like do all of that. 538 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560 To manipulate the flavor. And then you go, OK, this is the 539 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,840 one I really liked or hey, this one developed really good at day 540 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:26,160 2 because usually it's like once they have 24 hours to let off 541 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,880 things like carbon dioxide and that from it, once they Degas, 542 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,720 that next 10 days is the best time to drink them. 543 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,800 And so when Bennett was after I gave him my beans and he was 544 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,760 asking where to find the others, where to find their roast dates. 545 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,480 And like, I've not seen anyone out here have a roast date 546 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,640 unless you go to a farmers market or something. 547 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,840 You might find it there like, but most of the others, you're 548 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,280 lucky if you even if it even gets to the store in that first 549 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,640 ten days. I'd be surprised. 550 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,480 And doesn't take a lot of time to be able to invest into 551 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,720 learning how to do it, does it? No, no, I spent so on Sweet 552 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Maria's. They had a a video and then they 553 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,920 just had this like one page blog about that's roaster, 554 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,920 specifically their little tips and tricks, things to watch for. 555 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,600 And then I've probably done 100 roasts at least through there 556 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,760 now. That's cool. 557 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,400 That's. Awesome. 558 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,600 It's things like that or like how you know more home cooked 559 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,280 meals instead of like the instant shit and that because 560 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,880 usually when you do it from scratch and make it, it ends up 561 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,240 being cheaper. Well, I do. 562 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,320 I mean not. Well, it depends. 563 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,640 It really depends you. Can make an elegant extravagant 564 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,000 meals from home. Well, it depends on how many 565 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,960 people are there, but when you're counting by head, that's 566 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,520 it's. Actually, a lot you think about 567 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,200 that versus even going to Wendy's. 568 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,400 Oh Wendy's is insane. And you're like. 569 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,600 I pay $6070 for my entire family. 570 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,080 But you go to a real restaurant and you're 122 hundred 300. 571 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,240 Bucks. Oh, I don't take my gets to 572 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,880 those. Ones, yeah. 573 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,600 So, you know, you do that and you can make a nice meal at home 574 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,960 for less than that. Way less than that, yeah. 575 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,640 Well, and even thinking about like, you know, with video 576 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,560 games, you can go to GameStop or you can go to pawn shops. 577 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,320 But one thing that people could be doing, and I've seen it and 578 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,880 I've done it myself, is going on Marketplace on Facebook and then 579 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,160 offering up to trade games. Oh yeah, so I stopped playing 580 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,160 this. Yeah. 581 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,160 Anybody want to play it? Like or even seeing other ones 582 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600 and going, yeah, it's the same dollar value. 583 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,320 I want to play that one just going, hey, I'd trade you for 584 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,120 that for this game and just see because you never know unless 585 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,000 you ask. Yeah. 586 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,320 And that that actually works out a lot. 587 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Plus, you make a new connection with somebody else. 588 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,040 So instead of spending money on that one. 589 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,560 That's why I think that the PSN is a great value add because it 590 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240 gives you these games. Yeah, they may not be the brand 591 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,000 new games, but if you like gaming and you're on a budget 592 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,160 and you can't afford the latest $85 game, then why not get that? 593 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,200 There's a lot of gems out there. Also looking on PS4 games you 594 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,520 can go to like stores and they're like super super cheap. 595 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,120 Oh yeah, go get the CD, the desk version, pop it in, go find the 596 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,440 ones. And especially if you have like 597 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,680 the PS5 and you're trying to do that, go find the ones that have 598 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,240 the PS5 upgrade and you go. Get this. 599 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,680 For disc version, let it do the upgrade and play the PS5 600 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,760 version. Yeah, I got the. 601 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,760 It was super funny because you'll have both of them beside 602 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,560 each other. Yeah. 603 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,160 So I I traded in a bunch of my games that I had at GameStop and 604 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 they gave me quite a bit and I was like, sweet, I got some 605 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,960 games. I did a bunch of digital 606 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,280 downloads and then oh man, what was it? 607 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Oh yeah. And then over there I was like, 608 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,120 I was going to get Sonic for my kid. 609 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:53,960 PS4 version was like $18.00. PS Vibe version used was like 610 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,400 26. That's not bad. 611 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,040 I got the PS4 one. Yeah, go over there and it says 612 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,440 free upgrade. Yep. 613 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,680 So I save a bunch of money by being able to. 614 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 I think it's dumb. A lot of games do a visual 615 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,320 upgrade like Ghost Recon. We we played that for a while. 616 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Now we're deep into No Man's Sky and that's super cool. 617 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,160 I think it's I. Just like getting like elevated 618 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,320 and going through space. Yeah, yeah. 619 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,440 Mining and finding cool shit, trying to find a new ship. 620 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,040 I I played that the other night and have you ever gotten a 621 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,560 settlement before in that game? What do you mean? 622 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880 If you follow the missions, apparently takes you to a 623 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,840 mission and you go to a planet and there's a settlement like a 624 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,240 little town and that town is being attacked by robot things. 625 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,400 And if you save it then you can become the like the main leader 626 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,520 of that town, build it, it can generate money overtime. 627 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,800 You can do make decisions for the town, settle arguments like 628 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,200 all sorts of weird shit. So you just follow the story. 629 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,800 Yeah, so do that, but then you still can go off to other 630 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,159 planets and see things. But it helps you continue to get 631 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:17,480 way more 'cause doing that now I have like 16,000,000 in my units 632 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,000 plus. Probably only have like one, 633 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,639 maybe two, maybe just a couple. 100,000 just 'cause I spent it 634 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,080 so quickly on shit. Yeah. 635 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:31,320 So I don't know, it's random side tangent there, but yeah, I 636 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,440 think there's so much to do because, and this is something 637 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,080 that I've, I've looked at as the years have gone past and there's 638 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,520 been moments that have been really tough financially and 639 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,840 I've looked at my spending and it's like, oh, I really want. 640 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,239 Well, I don't, I don't actually need that though. 641 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,199 Do I just want that because that's what I'm used to? 642 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Because like, is it craving? Am I bored like, and often times 643 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,080 I'm looking at it, I'm like even just something simple like I go 644 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:08,800 to the store and I'm buying candy and I know it's stupid 645 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,560 because I don't feel like I eat a shit ton, but most of the time 646 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,400 that's not the best decision I could make. 647 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,240 It's just the one that sometimes I'm choosing to make. 648 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,240 Yeah. And that's OK. 649 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,520 That's your decision. 100% but sometimes if I'm trying to be 650 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:28,360 more eco conscious, you know, budget friendly, that might not 651 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,840 be the best thing either because it's always like, well, I really 652 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960 want this because this makes me feel good and that's why we 653 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,920 choose to get it. And sometimes that's needed. 654 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,760 But maybe it just depends on the budget that they're looking at. 655 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,400 Same with like, you know, buying a bottle of whiskey. 656 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,880 Sometimes it's nice to have a really nice bottle of Scotch, 657 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,520 but then other times I'm like, I don't when was the last time I 658 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,520 actually drank a Scotch? I don't I don't need to buy a 659 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,080 bottle right now because, you know, it's it's maybe it might 660 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,880 be a want at some point that would be there, but do I 661 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,560 honestly need it? It's not like it's that hard or 662 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,720 far at some point to go to a liquor store, if that's 663 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,520 something that is, you know, But it's not something that right 664 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,000 now I actually need, you know? Yeah, I don't need a whole lot. 665 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,480 I'm I'm pretty good. I can keep pretty simple and 666 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,920 I'll be totally fine. Like, I mean, even there was 667 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,560 like a funny meme like what men can live off of and it's 668 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,640 literally like a bed mattress on a box bringing on the floor, 669 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,720 ATVA, PlayStation, a fridge and a microwave. 670 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,160 And he's like, yeah, I'm set. Like how little? 671 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,840 Many people more than a microwave, but yeah, 100% like 672 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,560 that is. You can't exist on that though. 673 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,520 Totally you could. You could totally exist on that 674 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,360 and many people do, but it's, it's being able to go outside of 675 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,600 that and that's hard because you want to be able to do things. 676 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,400 You want to be able to have a little bit more money so I can 677 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,280 buy some really good cannabis. And you know, thinking of that 678 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,520 like with, I mean, if you live in an area where you know, where 679 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,600 Winco is, then that's awesome. But some people don't know that. 680 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,560 They don't. They're just like, oh, I 681 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,440 wouldn't shop at Winco, but Winco is a great place to get a 682 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,440 lot of bulk stuff, which is awesome. 683 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,240 Also start looking at things like if you got T-Mobile, they 684 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,840 got like the T-Mobile Tuesdays and they give like little treats 685 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,240 and stuff like that you can go get. 686 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,480 That's kind of cool. If you're down with that, that 687 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,880 that's a good thing to look into. 688 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,520 We're like even out here they have what's called the starving 689 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,360 students card and I think it's like 30 bucks for the year, but 690 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,200 then you get tons of discounts. There's all sorts of free shit 691 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,160 and, you know, discounted shit that you can get in there. 692 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,200 And for people who are trying to live, that's a really great way 693 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,880 to do it too. For real. 694 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,640 You know, I, I yeah, I like that. 695 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,160 So if you are looking like living on a budget, how do you 696 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,400 spend on your cannabis? Do you spend looking for like 697 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,680 the highest quality so the experience is going to be the 698 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,520 best so it lasts the longest and you have to use the least amount 699 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,920 of product? Or do you go in for the, you 700 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,480 know, bottom barrel of like, what is the cheapest product 701 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,440 here? What am I going to get a full 702 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,760 gram for $20? Where am I going to get, you 703 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,240 know, whatever it is? What's my bottom that I can get? 704 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,440 What's going to get me the most high? 705 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,880 And most people look at that THC percentage and go, well, if 706 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,360 it's, you know, mid high 20s or 30s, then that's going to get me 707 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,760 the highest. Well, and it's, it's great. 708 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,280 I mean, if you're in a state like ours, you know, you're 709 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,920 fairly limited on how many dispensaries or pharmacies that 710 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,880 they are located around you. And that way it keeps the prices 711 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,560 high because there's not enough competition. 712 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,720 And with that, it kind of sucks. But one of the things that we've 713 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,760 been recently doing is instead of being able to commit to a 714 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,520 whole, you know, 3.5 oz, right? If you're committing to an 715 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,720 eighth, then what you should do is start looking for samplers. 716 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,880 1G samplers around here in Utah, they're 20 bucks. 717 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,800 I'm sure they're even cheaper other places. 718 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,920 Yeah, well, it depends on the strain or if you're just trying 719 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,880 a new one, like, hey, you know, I really don't know how I feel 720 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,120 about this one. I don't want to invest a lot 721 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,040 because maybe you are really particular with cannabis. 722 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,640 There are people who are hyper particular. 723 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,640 It's very like cannabinoid terpene grower specific, you 724 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,120 know, that it's like, hey, this really works well with me. 725 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,120 I had it over here and it didn't and I had this and it didn't. 726 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,640 And that, you know, or, and maybe it's their mindset, maybe 727 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,560 it's what's going on in their life that they just cannabis 728 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,240 doesn't work always very well with what's going on. 729 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,640 Yeah. That's OK too. 730 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,200 You know, sometimes then maybe it's just a realization of 731 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,840 what's going on. Am I trying to numb something? 732 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,120 Am I trying to run from something? 733 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,640 Am I like hurting? You know what is it that is? 734 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,960 Is it escapism? Like what, what is it that's 735 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,280 going on? You know, and, and sometimes we 736 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,440 all need that because the human experience is tough. 737 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,280 I don't think it's easy for anyone. 738 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,080 We all view someone else and we go, oh man, they've got it so 739 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,000 good. They've got it so easy, but we 740 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 have no idea. Every like thing that goes on in 741 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,600 their mind, everything that goes on in their life, all their 742 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,440 personal struggles and that, you know, and I'm sure they're 743 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,320 thinking the same thing about someone else, like, oh, they've 744 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,280 got it so good, so easy. So this and behind closed doors, 745 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,960 who knows what that person's struggle is? 746 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,200 Yeah, but don't yuck someone's yums. 747 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,040 Yeah. Oh, yuck. 748 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,760 Not like, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. 749 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,760 I'm feeling it, dude. I believe it. 750 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,360 It's been a. It's been a high day. 751 00:40:53,400 --> 00:41:02,160 A nice combination of quite a few strains and I still think 752 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,200 spitball here. I think the first strain of the 753 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,080 day was my favorite one so far today. 754 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,240 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. 755 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,080 I I really. The BlackBerry that yeah, yeah, 756 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,920 it was really good. BlackBerry spice #7 that one was 757 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,040 awesome. That one's like, I don't fucking 758 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,520 care. But I was like relaxed but 759 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,480 pretty clear headed. There was a slight haze just at 760 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,920 the end, but like. That's cool. 761 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,760 It was. Fantastic. 762 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,240 I don't know. That's weird. 763 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,680 Yeah, man. Well, it's been a good episode. 764 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,200 You guys give us some ideas. There's some topics you want us 765 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,000 to go into because we struggle sometimes to come up with 766 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,480 something. Sometimes for the sesh, like I 767 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,720 know we'll have a million interviews and a bunch of other 768 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:56,920 people on, but just like one-on-one sesh, there's so many 769 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,520 avenues to go down and. Maybe we should just think about 770 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,800 the conversations that we have during the week. 771 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,720 Yeah, or sit down, get a little high and chat with chat. 772 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,120 Or just just get high. See what we come up with and 773 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,200 create a whole playlist for the year. 774 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,840 So structure.