Welcome to cannabis school. I'm your host Jessie Angeles and
I'm Brandon Elder and we're here to talk to you about everything
pertaining to cannabis from debate flower Edibles strains
and everything in between. This week actually has been
fantastic. This month's pure roll on.
Has been saving my life. How many of you right now?
Have used your mom's payroll on today?
I have, I have. Absolutely.
Yeah. Where did you rub it?
I put mine on my neck and my shoulders, like, right before
hopping on, because I know that before recording, I'm always
sore and I just want to move around more so it definitely
helps. Yeah.
Are you rubbing? I have bad tennis elbow for
years. I've had bad tennis elbow due to
being that kid where somebody says, don't do that because
you'll regret it when you're older, like shut up old man.
And now I'm the old man. And I'm like, man, this hurts
all the time. But seriously, when I put it on
there, for my tennis elbow by left, elbow is the worst within
minutes. I'm feeling complete relief,
it's a cooling sensation and then it'll heat and cool.
It's amazing Mark where you put it on brother so I put on my
neck, Every day and not that I have neck pain or neck soreness,
but I've had multiple neck surgeries and I find it really
helps my range of motion. So for me, I'm doing it to
maintain that range of motion and flexibility so that I don't
end up being stiff. Who you just heard from is the
founder of mons Pura Brandon who we talking to today?
We're talking to Mark, Mark's an awesome guy, he's six generation
farmer and also in a Attorney and a boat.
Captain a wide variety of things here.
Mark, what did you guys Farm before you were farming him?
We were actually about the time. We started farming and we were
raising about 10,000 acres of alfalfa.
We've been raising Alfalfa and other specialty crops that we
actually process and Export internationally for about three
decades. Now, three decades with farming,
did you farm the whole I mean you were in law school though.
Nope, actually my father when I was growing up told me don't be
a poor farmer and so did. I went to school, get an
education separate from. So I actually went and got a
finance and accounting degree and then I went to law school
and so I practiced law for about 10 years.
After I graduated school and then I became a commercial
fisherman for almost two decades went out and I was a brine
shrimp captain and And I did International exploration for
our company and so I worked abroad quite often shrimp.
Crafton. Yep.
I we had a branch from Fleet so
I was a shrimp boat captain. Bubba Gump, Shrimp.
There you go. Yes.
I love me some Bubba. Gump's, I actually have a shirt
so so I want to go back just a little bit Mark.
So you talked about you or an attorney, what type of internee,
where you? Well, I started out actually the
prosecutor's office so on the West Coast by went to law school
up there in Seattle. So I got a job in the
prosecutor's office and I was assigned to the drug and gang
task force. So we prosecuted drug offenses
actually and I'm sure during that time it was a lot of
cannabis offenses as well. The other was a lot of cannabis
offenses. The drug of the time was cocaine
that was you know oh yeah in 80's and but cannabis was
regular almost every day. What were your thoughts on
cannabis back then? I hated it to be honest with you
hyah I really, really didn't like cannabis and And I actually
had a, pretty myopic view, you know, I was, I was indoctrinated
in the war on drugs and and not that they didn't have some good
premises, but rightly, it was, it was, it was overbroad,
overreaching. And it was misguided with, with,
especially with regard to cannabis.
Anyway, my opinion now definitely seems like you've
come a long way. You were what was that
conversation first? Like when your kids came to you
about cannabis hemp? Well, that was kind of it was
Honest with you was kind of intense as things went on back
back in about 2017. Before the, the current Farm
Bill had passed. My son was farming with me and
he asked me if I would consider raising cannabis, I pretty
abruptly told him. No, we're not doing it about a
year later actually came to me and said, dad, you really need
to open your mind a little bit and he had done a bunch of
research and so he handed me a stack of articles, some Returns
research and some scientific, you know, articles and so I read
them, he said, now how do you feel?
I said, heck no we're still not doing it took me, it did take me
a few years. Actually, it really did to
actually see, I had to look at both sides, but what was
interesting is during that whole process, I really, really,
really became convinced that cannabis was had a potential to
do yours. Great things, really great
things and I had no no preconceived notions of what
might or might not happen. I literally it was kind of like
a young person, learning something for the first time.
And so for me, it was a big journey and you know to see me
jump in and and be where we are today.
Was it's a big change for those who knew me.
So you say young person. Would you mind sharing how old
you are? I'm 62.
So 60 made that jump. Jump.
So you were a lawyer for a while.
What made you leave that to go into brine shrimp?
Well, I I actually really love the adventure of Brian shrimping
and I was doing it more and more and more I was being gone more
and more and so I really didn't feel it was fair to the law firm
my clients to be gone so much. I retired from law and went full
time into the commercial fishing.
In the international exploration, I want to hit on
something critical. You had talked At about you
being a shrimp boat captain, and you wasn't just one.
You were, you were helping command a whole Fleet from my
understanding. Yeah, at the end, we had 40
vessels or so. When I retired Say about you
talked about something that people may not think about.
But when you're doing extremely dangerous jobs, hard job such as
that and and I was former Navy and you're talking about, I
mean, just the area between Washington and California, that
San Diego area caught. I mean, it's rough Waters, it's
Rough Waters. And just thinking about the
swells that you must have seen must have just at first then
what am I doing here? But then after a while, I would
imagine Imagine you still miss that, I do love it and I people
ask me all the time, you know, I would not have stopped doing it.
It, I loved it a lot. My partner's had two partners
and they were, they wanted to move on to something different.
And so, since we were Partners, I agreed to that.
Did you get a lot of injuries and not going fishing?
Yeah. You know, I, I have lived, a
fairly active life and so I've had a lot of injuries you know,
broken bones and and a few She is along the way and some I have
a few replacement parts and so I don't know, I'll ask out it was
over 30, broken bones. I think that I remember that's
impressive. Tim and Jackie Chan.
Most broken. I don't know if it's impressive
or stupid, but, you know, my opinion was always set it and
get back to work. See, I've never broke a bone.
I've sprained ankles and I've had lots of stitches, but I've
never broken a bone. So to me up in the 30s is like,
wow. God, I've only Broken.
A few bones. I broke my collarbone in and I
can only imagine what you feel mark, because whenever there is
a change in barometric pressure, I feel it right here.
I know when a storm is coming, your body must light up like a
Christmas tree. Yeah, you know, it does.
And, you know, one of the, one of the things that that was kind
of surprising is when I was in my 40s, you know, I was a shrimp
boat captain. I thought I was invincible and I
was diagnosed with arthritis, I couldn't believe it.
You know, I thought I was invincible.
I was, I was a Captain Canada. So that arthritis has, you know,
really impact at all those injury areas over the years,
they it heightens them. I know where they're at, I can
draw the the fractures, Going to say Mark you have brought you
told us about the medications you're on, would you mind Sharin
how many medications you were on over those years?
I took, you know, a fairly wide array of arthritis, medications.
Probably some of you heard of the Celebrex.
I took the early large dose of Celebrex for, you know, the
better part of a couple decades. I took, you know, Advil on a
daily basis most days it was if I could get by with 12 Advil to
be a good day but most days it was 16 and I did that every day
to keep my body going. Keep the inflammation down, you
know, and paint pain was important but if the
inflammation got strong enough it would it would limit me and I
wouldn't be able to you know, lift and jump and run and stand
and do all the things that I was used to doing.
And so I did I had, you know, lots of visits to doctors and
lots of different medications and I had multiple different
prescriptions. You know, I took Tramadol I've
had, you know, use those over the years and I think that it
kind of worked until it didn't, you know, and unfortunately the
toll it took on my body was fairly severe and so, you know,
eventually I ended up in the hospital bleeding ulcers.
And so, from that day on which, by the way, is for years, next
month that day on. I didn't take a baby aspirin.
An aspirin and Advil or Celebrex, I'm taken one since
that day, but I had to stop taking those.
In order that you know, save my life.
It was important. If I remember the day you might
find this amusing. But I was at the hospital there
and and I said doc, I'm not dying here.
He said, well actually you are, I'm a techie and call your wife
tell her you're not coming home and so, you know, from that day
on, that's when I made that choice that no matter what, I
would do what I needed to do to get my health strong enough.
So I could at least Live. So I quit taking all of the
things that kept me moving, you know.
And as you can imagine, you know, I got fairly stoved up
after that. My arthritis, you know, came
back with a, with a Vengeance. So I was, I was, you know, my
ankles wouldn't work shoulders elbows.
My fingers were. I couldn't make a fist.
There was a period of several years.
I couldn't Snap My Fingers. I literally can't Snap My
Fingers. So you know and sleep was course
impacted by that because, you know, I had a lot of pain and
discomfort. So it wakes you from your sleep?
Yeah, sleeps kind of essential and so I I was you know, I was
experiencing what it was like not to be able to mask those
injuries and symptoms. How long after that was that?
That your son's brought you into cannabis?
See it was probably about six to nine months that well.
So me back up. Growing cannabis.
It was literally right at that time, is when we were doing it,
right? When all this happened was
literally at the end of our first harvest.
So we've been working on that first year, you know, 70 to 100
hours a week and you know, and I was on my feet every day, you
know, 16 hours and so I had been taken quite a bit of, you know,
anti-inflammatories and and that's probably what finally
didn't lie. My, my stomach, and that's when
I ended up in the hospital, right?
At the end of that Harvest, literally within days of the end
of that arm. I guess that's perfect timing
tab. Yeah, were you using CBD before
that? Time at all, I had tried it.
I had tried multiple different brands.
I tasted Manny. I don't know, maybe dozen
different brands, and I was kind of like a lot of people, if you
had asked me, I would say, CBDs good but it doesn't work for me.
And it was clearly. Now I know that it was based on
what what I was taking and how I was taking it, but I didn't know
that then. And so my opinion was that CBD,
worked for people who need to be calm down.
Or I need a little rest but it clearly wasn't something that
would help with my, my symptoms. That was my opinion.
I'm thinking about like, what you had said before, when when
you started taking it in your son's, they experimented with
multiple different flavors and different methods are there.
What do you remember from like, your first Interactions when
taking a teacher. What was it tastes like for you?
And did you tell them, boys, you can make this better.
Well, I'll tell you what. What happened was, you know, we
had decided that we would we would build a processing
facility. And the boys came to me and
said, hey Dad, we want to use you for guinea pig on our on our
on these cannabis formulas because you know, anything in
your blood. So so basically what they had
done is they've devised that they would.
They would give me the CBD and then they would do uptake
studies, you know. So I got I think I drug-tested
50 times that first year, right? So so they would be the product.
I don't think I'd ever been drug tested in my life by the way.
Just so you know, the first times, but it was a weekly
basis. And so in those days, you know,
we didn't have flavors and like we have today, and in fact,
those days, we were working on our refinement, we had the
extraction, and in the processing fee, Up it.
But they were, you know, they were developing.
And so literally in the first days they would come with a
syringe and put it in a spoon, and I would take that Spoonful.
It wasn't flavored at first at all.
It was pure natural and I didn't like it.
I didn't like the flavor, but I was willing to do it.
And, and I actually had no expectations about what would
happen to me, really, we were focusing on the the studies the
drug up takes and so, you know, over the next several months.
We tried a lot of different flavors because boys would
formulate, you know, try this mint, try this Citrus, they had
some flavors that were pretty, I thought would be great but we're
terrible. I thought root beer would taste
great, but it didn't work very good and so and and I will tell
you at the same time, they were developing flavors for the
animals. And so I I tasted all the Is the
bacon and the fish and being a butter and they weren't bad.
What was the worst one? I didn't like the fish at all,
that's not to say that's a salmon.
But that salmon flavored CBD. Was not good in my opinion but
the cats like it, I started the bacon one when we did a review
on one of them on the episode, a Triton was like oh yeah it
tastes like bacon bits. Like does it was my choice?
I like it. I think it smells and tastes
good. I think it's pretty darn close.
Duh, go. So actually at the beginning,
Inning, I really, you know, was just doing it for the for the
study impact. I really didn't have any
expectations of any personal benefits.
You had, you asked me, do you have problems sleeping?
I would have said, no, I don't sleep because I wake up from
pain but I don't have problems sleeping in my mind.
When head, you start me feel a difference within about
probably, 10 to 14 days. I started filled pretty for me.
They were significant differences.
I felt like I was waking up. Much more rested.
And I felt like I was getting a more sound sleep, which was odd
to me, because I still had a little pain.
You know, I did start to see you though within a couple of weeks,
dramatic differences in my range of motion.
You know, I started to feel like my shoulders had a lot better
range of motion within about the first month, my granddaughter
came, and I was showing her how to click your fingers and it
also not occurred to us all my goodness.
He's Clicking his fingers and then that forever.
And I'll and So within about a month I started to feel Pretty
significant reduction in my pain in my joints and I was pretty
convinced that it was demonstrable.
I could feel it and I you know in the boys were starting to to
be pretty excited about. Wow I mean we're seeing this,
you know, this is a guy that couldn't get on his horse.
You know I told my partner don't put shoes on my horse cuz I
can't get on. Hmm, I was back on the horse and
back climbing in a tractor again and and I was back on my
surfboard which you No, for me was important and I hadn't been
able to do it. I was I was stoked up enough.
I could not get on a board and you know, within a month or two
I was back on a board. Every Saturday as long as I
wanted and that made a big difference I could we could see
it. Yeah.
Was it is it true that your boys pulled a fast one on you with
the placebo? Yes they did about about four or
five months into taken the products by then we'd come up
with some pretty good flavors and I will tell you just Within
about two months, I told them we are going to produce this
product. I'll stroke the check.
This is, we have to do this. We need to make this, let's get
the research done. Let's make this because for me,
it was impactful. I it was a nine-day different.
So I was, you know, I was going to be the poster boy.
This is so great. I love this, you know, and I was
sharing with family members who had had significant, you know,
changes then about four or five months into it.
All of a sudden, I started to not quite fill the sky.
And it was fairly quick, like an within a week, my hand was
starting to ache a little bit and my shoulder was hurting one
night. I woke up to in the morning,
staring at the ceiling thinking. Oh my gosh, I knew this was too
good to be true. I just, oh my gosh, I was so
disappointed because I felt great.
Then all sudden I was disappointed and but I, you
know, it's kind of a bear. I don't tell the boys.
Alright, so go ahead. So I'm like, I was keeping it to
myself and just doing over it, right?
Then about the third night. You know, the attorney in me
came out, I was negotiating with myself right laying their wide
awake. So finally, I decide that's it.
I'm going to go tell the boys, I figured it out.
So I remember the morning I went in the lab and and both my boys,
Richard and Aaron were in the lab.
I said, hey, do you guys think maybe that, you know, you've
just given me so many different CBD?
So many different things over the last several months at my
body. Got used to it and they're like,
what are you talking about? I said, well, you know, for the
last maybe 10. Days to two weeks, I just have
been feeling worse and worse and worse.
And I'm getting worse range of motion and I'm not sleeping.
They're like, well, so when did it start?
And I told them and then they both just started laughing, you
know, and I'll be honest with you, I like was a little
clueless, then I didn't think it was that funny.
And and then they said, well, you know, Aaron said, well, you
know, Richard in his mind, he Placebo Jack and they totally
fooled me because In those days. Remember, they would give me the
oil and I would take it each morning then they would record
it. What I was, you know, whatever
test we were doing. I totally didn't realize it,
Richard took the CBD out of the oil and was just giving me, you
know, because in his scientific mind, he was like, oh my gosh,
this is too much. This guy's got, he wants to feel
better, you know. And so so they did, they Placebo
with me and and, and it had been exactly, by the way, two weeks
before I want to talk to that. They have done is funny.
So We learn here in a couple things right to real important.
Things one is you know cvd is not a cure just helps our body
help itself. And the other thing is, you can
write your kids out of the will with a stroke of the pen.
I want to go into a little bit with Richard and Aaron tell us,
you know why, I mean they're not just a bunch of guys that read
some cool stuff online and said let's try and make it like tell
us a little bit more about your boys and why it's so important
that we Stand who they are in the process of mons, Pura, sure.
So, you know, the guys grew up around us, all right.
So I've I've had processing facilities, you know, for 30
years and so when for instance, Richard was a young boy, he's to
come and he would like hanging out around the lab.
We had a wet lab with, you know, half a dozen eight, guys,
working in there and we had a dry lab before five guys working
in there. We, when we were producing, you
know, feed Rose remains and And also additives vitamins.
And so he would be hanging out there, right?
So when he, when he grew up, he went to college and became a
scientist. That's what he went to school
for was to become a scientist and and it just it always rang
true to him. He loved to figure things out
and he loved, you know, being on the farm and all the boys, you
know, grew up driving tractors and they were on the farm and
they grew up, you know, riding around on the boats and flying
the airplanes and things that we did.
But in the heart, Richard He was a scientist.
And so he went on to become a scientist.
And after that, he decided that he would also go to law school.
So he went on to law school and he wanted to learn a little more
about intellectual properties, patents, and formulas and
recipes. And so he continued his
education, Aaron had always loved the farming, and growing
and, and Manufacturing aspects. And so, after he'd gone to
school and economics, he came and landed.
And management. He came and was farming with me
at the ruin, our big plant, and he was running the and helping
with the production facility that we had.
So they they have that background in in science,
Agriculture, and Manufacturing foods, and food items, so, yeah.
They, they kind of had the background to do the research,
but I will tell you, Aaron was the first one, he figured it out
and he came to us. And, and once I was sold on it,
I told him let's Do this, but I'll only do it if you can talk
Richard into it. And so he had to start the
process all over again and talked his big brother into
doing it because because him and his law background, he was a
little against cannabis also. And so I told him I'll only do
it if we have Richards background because we need it.
We really do rely on his scientific background a lot.
Yeah, it seems like you guys have created one of the cleanest
products that we found today. So, yeah, we she ate that
appreciate, that's been our goal from the beginning.
I have yet to meet Richard. But the rest of the team has
been fantastic. So I'm at Richard and I'll tell
you it's to get on the same level of him as far as
scientific explanation especially about cannabinoids
and everything else like that. Like it was it was it was very
refreshing to be able to talk to somebody within these types of
facilities because Brandon see a bunch of them, I've seen a bunch
of them and a lot of times it's a bunch of Bro Science and I
don't want to be cruel to anybody who may be developing.
That type of product of cvd within teachers gummies, Etc.
But quite honestly, Brandon and I have tried dozens and dozens
of different types and one of the things that really got us
was the scientific approach that you guys take and I actually
want to touch on that one on the testing.
Can you share with us the testing that you do and why?
It's vital? When those when you've got
consumers out there looking for a viable strong And very well
put together CPD product. Like why is it important to have
the testing? Well, that's a great question.
Well, look, cannabinoids are there small, right and, and when
we start talking about things, like our endocannabinoid system,
those are really molecular things.
And you need to have a fairly specific laboratory to actually
analyze and look what was going on within those things.
And so when we first started, Richard said, look, I have one
Fireman, I want one instrument, I want a laboratory, but his
want one instruments called the gas chromatography machine.
He said, I want one that pairs up really good with the one, the
state of Utah uses and they use up at the University.
So that when I run that instrument my test results can
be compared to theirs. And so that was really huge for
us. You know, the turnaround on most
of these profiles is 7 to 10 days.
Richard can run 150 of those a day through his laugh.
So, weird, and development, and we're doing research.
We can we can do a lot of that. Just right there and house don't
give us names but you've done testing on a lot of other CBD
Brands. What have been the results that
you guys have found? So we have done a lot of
testing, I'll tell you that we've tested so I'll start with
some of the interesting things we have found and we set up
pretty strong guidelines from the things that we knew to watch
for were lead. Mercury arsenic cadmium for his
far as metals and most of the pesticides.
Mostly not so much herbicide. But a lot of pesticides like
promethium. So we started watching for those
things in the first tan. They came in and we tested at
our facility. All 10 failed we found in those
10 lead Mercury, arsenic cadmium promethium, not not everything
in all of them, although some did have everything in it.
And but but, you know, then beyond that we started seeing a
lot of products on the shelves. And so we would buy it and run
it tested or maybe a friend would give it to us.
And and and so We've seen a lot of interesting.
Things that don't quite match up with the labels.
One of the probably most pervasive things that we saw was
that many of the labels didn't represent what was really in the
product, really? So yeah it would say something
like I won't say her name but there's a particular company
that was advertising 45 hundred milligrams of CBD in their
product and when I first saw it, I will I'll tell you and I
thought well, that's awesome. Oh my gosh.
Yeah. You know, we tested there was
246 in there and the whole bottle.
Yeah, so you have to read the fine print there using smoke and
mirrors. So basically what they're saying
is we have this proprietary micro encapsulating process that
makes our CBD mysteriously more powerful.
So we can 9x are our product and, and so I know.
So, we see some that we saw that quite often probably, well, I
will tell you. You this that first year, when
we first got the machine up, we brought in 9 or 10 different
products and 9, or 10 of those products all failed.
They, they didn't have what they said they had in them, and
that's, that's a big issue, you know, is how much is really in
there? I will say the probably, the one
of the most common things we find is residual, alcohols.
I thought we find that a lot just from their extraction
methods or their poor extraction methods.
Yeah. Yeah.
The after they distract, you
know, Not finish in the refining.
So we see that often I will say that that there are some
products that are good. They, I mean, as far as what
they say they have they have and you know, sometimes we say we
would like a little more in there because, you know, we
think the the efficacy of small doses is pretty diminished.
But and that's probably the most common thing we see is that, you
know, they're just not very much actual CBD in there.
The other thing that we find a lot is, is isolate since Stead
of Fuller broad spectrum. We see a lot of, but that's
becoming less, and less, by the way, less and less, and less eye
slits when you have contaminated biomass like, like I talked
about what we saw, if you'll run it through a chemical badge and
burn it down and burn everything off, but that isolate, you can
probably burn off some of those heavy metals and pesticides and
insecticides that were in the test.
But then you'll just end up with with the actual Heist little,
there's something you were talking about previously.
We talked and you were mentioning that there's
scientists that told you there's something you guys couldn't do
with your product. What was that thing?
You can't do? Gummy's have become pretty
popular but one of our whole bags for gummies all along has
been that the bioavailability the efficacy of it's not you
know it's high because your stomach is going to deteriorate
that and you lose so much through eating it it won't be
absorbed. And so we've always Richards had
this goal. That what if we could make a
gummy that that's absorbable? Well, the problem is to do that,
how are you going to do that in something that will stay firm or
in a molded in a molded? So basically he's come up with a
proprietary blend that it's based on MCT oil.
So so our gummies are actually not water-based or MCT oil based
and so literally the gummy is the same exact dose that you're
taking in a, in a standard team, sure offer.
But it's, it's it's based on Well, so that our bodies can
absorb it and we get, you know, substantially higher absorption
rates. It's really it's amazing.
And so, the key was right to build something like that, that
didn't taste really like some kind of cleaning fluid or most
of them. Do they taste like some kind of
alcohol or list or yeah, you know and and therefore coated in
Sugar of some sort. Yep, they caught him and sugar
because that's all they can keep sticking together because
they're using, you know, a gelatin base.
So the scientists were talking about, You know when he saw he's
like I can't believe. Did I told Richard?
He couldn't do that. Do you know the comparison of
bioavailability from the MCT gummies?
Versus like a standard water-soluble yet varies.
So each gummies, a little different but generally we think
about 45 to 65 percent. When we think of something you
chew it up and swallow. As far as the mineral value, we
think of about 45 to 65% in these in these gummies, we think
it's about 85 to 90%, which is so much Higher than you get with
any other bioavailability of Edibles, anything?
Yeah, it's almost as good as a tincture.
It's really close to. I mean, the taste, you know, we
use the was a pink lemonade and it's absolutely delicious.
But the one thing I will say about this gummy is that it is
completely different and Beyond any of the other ones I've ever
tried, just like Brandon said, like we've tried CD ones where
it tastes like a tire. And you're like, oh and it's got
some sugar in it and they're like, oh, but it's lemon
flavored know, like that's nothing like lemon it.
If those are lemons than they must hate you, you're like, this
is like lemon cleaner. But like, I'm not sure what
you're tasting here. It's fabuloso.
Underneath my sink where I clean my floors with right?
And like you said, I mean, 10 to 14 days, you starting to feel a
difference, you are. I mean, I've seen your knuckles,
you know, you you inspire me to get this for my dad, because my
dad has horrible arthritis. He's almost 70.
And he's got one knuckle that is just like used into place and
he's like, he's shoveling as many ibuprofen like you talked
about it, like you're not standard, you know, civilian
dosing, you're going military dosing there you know least 1600
milligrams in one day of ibuprofen.
That's most doctors would say that's going to cause really
hard problems. You're like I can't move without
it. Yeah that's it.
Just taking that amount a long so actually I wanted to ask on
that. So can you kind of give us a
quick rundown as far as the products that you guys have
developed so far that are available?
Yep. So, of course, our base are the
the 2000 mg tinctures and they come in multiple flavors, we
have natural flavor, which is really quite popular.
And I, I've become quite accustomed to it.
I kind of like it, but we have mint explosion, and we have
citrus burst. We also Make a product though,
for those people who can't have any THC and we know a little
THC, is great, for the Entourage effect is real.
We don't have to even speculate anymore.
Now, there's tons of great research, that shows it's real.
So a little little Tac is good for us, we know that.
But some people can't have that most because their employment,
right? And so, we make a product, we
call broad spectrum and THC free.
So it has the full spectrum of cannabinoids in there, which is
really, really, really important.
That's a topic for a whole other.
Long discussion, we're able to eliminate, just the THC.
So that product really become popular for those who want to
benefit from cannabinoids, but have to be careful about
testing. Then we also have topicals
because, you know, ingesting is a great way and it does regulate
with our endocannabinoid system, but topicals are Great to focus
like you say, with the roll-on on your neck, or your elbow,
your back. So we have, we have the pain
cream roll on which is as, you know, pretty pretty magical.
We Also, have a healing cream. The healing cream is in a lotion
form and it is used for a right kind of a variety of purposes,
but the most important thing is it really is a healing cream.
It's a Wonderful lotion. If you want to have soft hands,
I think I have the softest Farmers hands around because I I
do I put it on every day but I find benefits even, you know,
for me and I actually applied to my Knuckles every day because I
want that concentrated CBD there on my Knuckles, but it's
wonderful for healing and and for scar reduction Shinto, we do
have a pet product, you know, animals have an endocannabinoid
system just like us the subset people to.
And so we decided to build a really potent full spectrum
product for our animal friends. And so we, we've had huge, huge
success with that people. Love that we've seen a lot of
really great success stories with what paths, - he takes it
every day. Yep, Yoshi lat.
Why are cannabinoid so important in your seat?
Products. That's a great question.
Um, you know, sometimes I know it's not exact but I love to use
the example of a multivitamin, you know, vitamin E is important
but it isn't the whole shebang. And when people say CBD we
understand that it's a term that generally means all of the
cannabinoids, but that actual cannabidiol, you know,
cannabinoid is important but it's not the whole shebang and
we know that if you want to get real benefit, going to need to
have the rest of that Spectrum. You want some tea.
BN + CB G CV. You're going to want a little
THC because those cannabinoids also interact with our
endocannabinoid system. And if you want a good night's
rest, don't just take CBD. If you want relief.
Your arthritis don't just take somebody.
That's like saying if you want to if you want to be healthy
don't just take Vitamin C. So all of our products are all
natural and you know, that's something that we've really
special with those ingestible 's and make them taste.
Good with all natural ingredients is has been a Jake.
But I think we made it. We're there.
Yeah, I remember you had said something about and it just goes
to test like how unique this product is.
So you talked about the pain roll on and you had said, you
know what I do? I put it on my feet and I
thought that was strange as could be but Brandon was like,
I'm going to try it out and I tried out the exact same time.
Brandon what was your experience been?
So that day I had been hanging as a day.
I was working with my dad. Oh was Was so he was randomly
doing sprinklers in his Park and was like, hey I need to do this,
I thought I was done at like noon.
So I'm hosing off my feet with my shoes on my socks because
they're covered in mud. And right after that, he
realizes, hey, there's no electrical running under.
My driveway, from this side to this side.
So where I think I'm done at noon.
Add six more hours of working on my feet doing stuff with wet
socks and wet shoes. So, I got home and my feet were
just killing me. And I rolled it on my feet and I
took like two droppers of the tincture.
And obviously, it's me. So I went and smoked a whole
bunch and my feet just were so relaxed.
It took all of the pain away and within like a couple minutes it
just yeah it is amazing. Yeah.
I Had one. I mean I tried it multiple times
on my feet. I have slight pain in my feet.
I have a little bit of diabetic neuropathy in my feet.
I'm not a heavy guy by any sense but unfortunately through the
wonderment of genetics I've got our I've got type 2 diabetes and
you know, I've used it there but the time that was the most
impactful for me with this. So there's a water park near
where we live and we went there with the family and my
six-year-old son wanted. Go on the slide, you got to go
up and you carry this. Like, I don't know, like a
little like a look at the bogging thing.
I don't know what the hell to call, but you get on it and then
you go down the slide and you go straight down, but walking up
and down. This thing was killing my feet.
And by the end of that day, I couldn't even walk very well.
And when I got home, I rub this on was sitting in my room.
Just kind of thumbing through my phone, 15 minutes later.
I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go downstairs are
going to get myself some food and No pain.
I hear the stories all the time and I'll tell you, it took me a
little bit to do it. Finally took my wife, saying we
had done an event and I was standing in the booth for like
16 hours in my dress shoes and I came back to the hotel.
And I said, I don't think I can stand there tomorrow for 16
hours. She said, put it on your feet.
I'm like I'm not putting roll on on the bottom of my feet.
So she said, I'm telling you do it, I did the next day, it just
dawned on me. My goodness, my feet don't hurt.
I was able to do it. Well it taught me.
A lesson since then you know? And so you know, if I work out
even if I serve my feet get sore but it all night and I'll feel
better. It really does work.
I think almost everybody I have put it on thousands and
thousands of people. Everyone feels it, you'll feel
it. Oh yeah, I put it on before I go
work on something every day because I start I wake up
hurting and so but it on takes out a way.
I can still have like a normal range of motion without having
the quick crazy. On my back and yeah, it's just
like a simple roll on. I carry this thing with me.
I have a little goodie bag of medicine and it's got my
teacher, my pens, like my role on basically, I'm like, alright,
some ground-up flower. My packs.
This bad boy comes with me everywhere.
It's awesome. I keep one in my boat, in my
truck and in my tractor, I do because you don't know when
you'll need it and it's nice to have it there.
Oh yeah, yeah, I have been very impressed.
Mark, with with the company that you have helped create with your
boys and I say with your boys because they're a there are
really the reason why we have this wonderful product and then
being able to bring you into the fold Aaron trying to.
I mean, let's just real big round of applause for Aaron
everybody. Because Aaron was able to push
this. Because seriously, I mean we we
love the monster of product so much that we came to him said,
hey look, you know, how can we partner with you?
To be able to get this out to our audience because our
audience has to solve the time like what are the strains that
you guys recommend? What are the products?
What are the brands? And when it comes to CD honestly
we had a lot of them like gifted to us like here try it out and
Yeah CBD company we go to is like Hey try our stuff.
Yeah. And it's at the same point now
where, you know, when somebody asked me like, hey, do you want
to try this strength? They hand me a joint pipe,
whatever, I'll ask them, what is it?
And they, if they can't tell me, I won't touch it.
And I have gotten to that same point with CBD.
Because if something goes, hey, man, just have a CD gummy, like
it's supposed to be good for me. Like, I would rather take one of
those Gatorade gummies, to be honest, because at least I know
that what's in it, and it's going to be sugar, gelatin and
whatever random stuff they put in there and sodium.
But with these products, I mean, honestly, for me, and I'm
speaking for Brandon, Brandon will say to, it has literally
changed the way. I have felt about high-quality
CD. And it has really taken it up.
Another level to the bar is set high with this really hide it.
You know, when we started, you know, we said, look, we have the
chance to build it from the beginning, we built it with the
end in mind, we weren't under the gun to do anything other
than to make the product we wanted.
And we started with a real simple.
Simple principle. We said, if we wouldn't give it
to our own family, we won't give it to yours.
And we just kind of live by that if we anything that we sell to
the Public. It would be something we would
give to our own family first. Wow, that's very like to hear.
That's why we give it to our family here.
So, yeah, absolutely with you guys.
Thanks for tuning in this week guys.
Yeah again, thank you guys for listening mark.
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