Welcome to cannabis school. I'm your host Jessie Angeles and
I'm Brandon Elder and we're here to talk to you about everything
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and everything in between. Okay.
Hey everybody. Welcome back to Tuesday.
We're super excited to be able to see you guys again.
Hope your week has been well Brandon.
Ah yeah, it's been a great week. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Very chill.
It's been pretty chill. I'd say for the most part.
Yeah, it's I'm sure everybody is been feeling pretty good about
not having smoke going over their state right now.
So, can I mean, I am right now, it's been rough and gross the
lat Last. Yeah several like weeks.
Yeah. But you know thank goodness.
You know hope everybody's okay out there and Northern
California our hearts. Go out to those people out there
who've been affected by it, as far as their horrible.
So talking about too much, smoke too much, smoke, too much smoke.
Okay, we're going to be talking today about a topic that I
think, almost every single person has experienced being on
cannabis for a while and for those who are looking into So
good, cautionary, tale for you. What are we talking about today?
Brandon too much too much? Is there such a thing?
Mme, yes, yeah, I would say. So I think there is too much and
it's dosing, you know, right? And and especially today, I
would say, for the last 10 years as and it could have been longer
than that. Definitely.
But as concentrates have been more and more prevalent within,
I don't want to say in our society because it sounds so
freaking sociologist, but it's just really the Cannabis that
you're able to get now. Now, compared to what the flower
child of the 70s in the 60s, even they the 80s.
Yeah. Even then they didn't have the
high potency of cannabis as they do today, even then I'd say when
I first tried smoking back and 2006 2000.
Yeah, 2006. So it's been stronger.
Oh yeah, it's a lot stronger now than it was back then, even the
good stuff back then was nothing compared to what But there is
now. Yeah it's so strong today and
you get concentrated extracts and those are sixty seventy
eighty ninety, nine percent. You know reminds me of that.
Did you ever hear that one? 911 call from a police officer
who took a pot brownie from when they did a bust was a long time
ago and super funny because he him and his wife ate these two
brownies and then they're calling 911 saying I can't feel
my body, I think I'm dying. Oh my God.
He's come help us, funniest thing but you know, in that
moment and I can share some personal experiences here and
Brandon can definitely share some as well.
But for me I've had a few instances where I've had too
much and so kind of got to go through the stages of having too
much. You don't realize it at first
that you've had too much, sometimes you do right away.
And one of the things that can come from, it is a feeling of
panic. Panic.
Yeah, a lot of confusion anxiety.
Paranoia Panic, fast. Heart rate delusions or
supposedly hallucinations, increased blood pressure.
Sometimes severe nausea vomiting but that's in prayer.
Oh my goodness you know cases I told you about that long time
ago, right? It was one of my first
experiences with having that much cannabis so I had
experimented with cannabis Not when I was young but oh well, I
would say you lot younger over 20 years ago when I was in the
Navy. I was about to get out and
smoked a big fat blunt with a couple of guys and I don't even
like we didn't do anything. We played cards and fell asleep
on a couch at somebody random strangers house tens about
right? Yeah.
I mean it was bad but I remember one time it was a friend she's
like hey come over and let's hang out and we started smoking
and she's loading up this little pipe.
In we smoked that bowl and after it, I was like, okay I'm feeling
really good. I'm cracking jokes having a good
time and then she loads up another bowl and the voice in my
head says don't do that dude. Don't you are so high right now
and I said she's like hey you want to smoke somewhere?
I'm like heck yeah shit. So I ended up smoking it in.
My laughter went from laughter to slight laughter to know
talking to I just need to hold perfectly still and she said,
what's your problem and pushed me and I got up and ran down the
hallway. Had my hand over my mouth and
I'm puking and it's squirting through my fingers and I get to
the I open up the door and I just Yak into the toilet, and I
just laid on the floor. It was so cold.
It felt so good and I passed out.
She left me on the floor there, dude.
What Hell, I don't like I'm so sorry.
So yeah, the nausea part can happen.
Yeah, I have a buddy that when we first were smoking together,
I remember a time that he was smoking and apparently got too
high and I just thought I needed to have an exorcism because he
just was sitting on the couch projectile, vomiting for just
like a minute or two and me and my My body were just in shock.
And I just, I walked to the closet.
Grab two or three towels is he's puking and laid it in front of
him. On the puke.
Is he just kept puking, was like all right, kind of wait for a
minute and then he finished didn't.
He was fine? Maybe I'm not laughing because
it's it is horrible. But I'm laughing because I I
know what that feels like when you're there because it's so
hard and we can go into other stories of About having too
much. And when is it that a person
should kind of slow it down. Is it, is it their tolerance
because some people just have a natural tolerance.
So they don't know how far they can go.
I mean, most people who are new to it, to don't know how far
they can go. Now are what they can handle or
what is a good dose for them and that's, that's always different
for each person. So test it.
Doubt. Start, slow and increase it from
there. Now most of the to high doesn't
typically come from smoking most of the time it comes from
Edibles. Yeah.
Edibles is unfortunate Edibles and teachers with smoke, you're
getting a small amount by mg into your system and you can, I
mean you'd have to smoke Stan. Yeah, it's instantaneous you
feel it. You okay.
But with an edible remember, Can take shortest half-hour.
I've seen that 20-25 minutes on the shortest ones, I've started
feel hours upwards to three hours.
Yeah. And then it finally kicks in,
and, unfortunately, kicks in all at once, and so typically
people, they'll take like, if they've tab too much, they'll
have an edible and then they'll smoke a little bit and realizing
that they feel that high right away.
Then later on, that edible kicks in and you've already got THC in
your system. Boom.
Yeah. So with Edibles people, often
take one not feel it within an hour, take a second one, not
feel it. Take a third one and all of a
sudden all three of them kick in and they are way higher than
they ever thought they would be. Yeah, my brother actually, he's
terrified of Edibles. He's like, I can't do them.
He's like and even then because his body has that kind of like
PTSD from it. Yeah.
Like if he has one of them he's going to be like crying and
throwing. The shower, like he's just like
I can't handle it. And so remember that Edibles are
they processed way different in the body than do an inhalation
because it goes straight into your bloodstream.
But when an edible goes into your system, it processes.
I believe through your liver. Yeah.
And it creates a different chemical, which it absolutely
intensifies it and it can last for hours.
Yeah. Some of the best edibles I've
had last six. I mean, When I say last, I mean
probably high for two to three of those.
You feel it coming up. So you fill and then a calm down
of it's decreasing. So yeah, yeah.
I felt the same thing. I felt four hours six to eight
hours. I felt from an edible or
tincture. Remember that by putting it in
your mouth, it takes a little bit longer, but and it typically
depends upon the I would say even who makes it and how they
make it. Yeah.
A lot of factors from your metabolism to your body to if
you've eaten or not, as well as how its manufactured who makes
it. And I think what they make it
with because it ranges drastically.
Yeah I would say that as far as Edibles go one of the best, paid
for Edibles the most tasty and I would say, even the most potent
have been from the company called wild wild progress.
Yes. So, they just make edibles or
that they make CBD. They make THC products, but
they're th see products there indica and sativa you
pre-medicated it. Each piece is like 20 mg and so,
you mean, they tell you to half it but it's definitely very,
very strong by far. One of the most potent, but it
doesn't last longer I would say than six hours.
I wonder if the make Brandon sized Edibles.
I think it's the whole package for you.
Usually, but I think it's like, I think, in every single what
it's like to to 400 milligrams per pack.
They're not pricey. Yeah, they're really good.
But, you know, even the homemade Edibles when you're like
chocolates, baked goods, I'm not a big fan of baked goods there.
Okay, yeah, I'm not a big fan anyway of cakes and cookies and
stuff all the time, right? Chocolates.
Pretty good. Like we typically like dark
chocolate. Dark chocolate.
Yeah, I like dark chocolate. It.
Just go see if you're making homemade Edibles.
It kind of takes the weedy taste out covers a lot of that flower.
And I mean, it's really good. But to go back into too much.
I've had instances where I forgot to breathe.
I know that sounds silly, but I had an instant where I was about
to be home and I probably had only five miles left to get home
and it all kicked in at once. And I had to remind myself to
breathe because I became extremely paranoid and Scared.
Now I wasn't inebriated to the point where I couldn't move
anything but it was really scary.
And so when they say, you know, don't be driving over there,
it's definitely got to be careful on this doing anything.
Even hiking. If you're doing too much, you
could fall down, get hurt, really bad.
You've got to watch that and Edibles by far is the hardest on
the system because it's a long ride.
Yeah, everything else comes down much.
Quicker except for really large dabs as well.
But that's high doses of concentrate your body up and
it's really hard to get that level of.
Yeah I've noticed that with pens, it's extremely difficult.
Like you just keep it like it. There's like a bar that's like
nope. You can't get any more medicated
in this stage but you know. Okay.
So Brandon were too high. Do we just have to write it out?
I mean yeah you can't make it go any faster than Well you can
introduce CBD high doses of CBD. Usually 921 12:50, can't hurt to
even do 12:40 to bring that way down.
So 20 milligrams of CBD to 1 milligram of THC.
And that will drastically bring down the high.
The euphoria that you feel. You can also chew a couple black
pepper, pepper corns. Oh, really the terpenes and not
will help. You can also drink lemon juice
and water, the lemon terpenes and that in there, as well as
water helps. So that's really interesting.
I remember that one time I called you and I was like, hey
man, I am it just started to intensify more and more and more
and he says, hey do you still have that teacher of CBD oil?
And it's yeah. And he goes, go take some of
that. So I took two droppers of that
in about a half hour. My body calm down.
I wasn't I wasn't you as euphoric, I wasn't.
Anxious and I definitely wasn't paranoid anymore but panic
attacks can come from this and I had that happen before and so
you really got to just take it easy.
Oh yeah, yeah. With high-dose out of bowls, are
any dose of edible that is too high for you is something to
look out for. I had a buddy who hadn't had a
bowl of that, it was a surprise brownie that someone made.
And they said, hey, I'll give you this brownie, but you have
to eat the whole thing. A thing and I'll tell you how
much is in it after it's gone dick and he didn't think that,
you know, there would be that much in it.
So he's sitting there eating it a little bit at a time going.
Tell me how much is in and he's like, nah, I don't tell you
finishes the whole Brownie and tells him, there's a hundred and
fifteen milligrams in it. So he's dividing 115 mg by the
entire tray of brownies there and I was like, no, that's
that's 115 in the Brownie and And he did not have a high
tolerance. He passed out on the couch for a
while. Middle of the night.
Got up finally went outside. It was Christmas morning.
He laid down in the snow next to his car for a couple minutes
because he was just so hot from being that high.
Hmm. And he was high for think he
said, 36 hours straight. That's horrible.
Yeah, and so that's not an experience, a lot of people are
looking for So you want to definitely make sure that your
dosing is proper for you. And at that time, I wish I had
had CBD. Yeah, that would have helped a
lot. It's a live and learn
definitely. And one thing to look out for is
that we've talked about tolerance breaks, when you've
come back from a tolerance break, you have a higher
likeability of taking too much, because you'll still remember
that. You'll just puff a little bit
more you'll have Of a full piece of an edible and thinking that
that's totally fine. You know, my tolerance is always
there, but you really need to be careful after our tolerance
break because even a short one, even after three days.
Oh yeah, you're going to feel it.
I recently went on the tolerance break for I would say 12 days
and it was you know, coming back to it definitely.
Just you know, I will just say this it's quite economical now
for me. Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. I've looked at that so many
times going and imagine how much cheaper it would be if I had a
lower tolerance and I try and take a tolerance break and I
come back and I take 100 mg edible and I just it's fine.
Geez. That would tend 5, I would feel
that. So I feel for you and I feel for
those out there who are having those same experiences, because
it's not It's just not fun. Just not fun now.
So definitely watch your house. I know, I have actually had an
experience of too much. This is this is crazy.
Okay yeah, I know. So I made my own butter and
usually I dose everything of mine because I like to know
exactly my experience of what I'm looking for and I know
exactly where I can get that. How what my levels are?
What my dosing is. I know exactly how to get that
and this I hadn't dosed out yet and I made some tea and I just
put a tablespoon in this entire French Press of T and I drank
the whole French press and hours later.
You know, it was fine. Crap bedtime, didn't feel really
high went to bed woke up in the middle of the night to be.
I never do that. Got up went to the bathroom.
And I saw tracers like fractal pattern tracers from this edible
that was kicked in and I sat in there and then I App and I
blacked out for a split second I blacked out and I'm laying there
in the bathroom floor, trying to get up, trying to be really
quiet because my girlfriend's asleep in the other room and so
I'm sitting there trying to get up and of course you heard the
thud. So as I'm trying to quietly get
up, she opens the doors on the other side.
Are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, I'm good.
I just blacked out for half a second.
Like, I don't know what happened before.
That is the weirdest thing because I never really
experienced too much. Then I got backup went to bed.
Woke up three, four hours later, they'll just fine.
So my body processes th see very quickly so usually my Edibles
don't last as long. It takes Alexander something in
the butter that made it stay longer when you make edible that
has stayed here too fat. The THC molecule has to adhere
to fat, and that's the way it's going to be able to work in the
system. That's why it takes so long.
That's why when you eat your food, you don't immediately get
everything from it. It takes time to digest.
So you have to be very careful with it.
Yeah, again, going back to, you know, if you're smoking it's a
little bit easier. I think, when you smoke too
much, you just get really tired. Yeah.
Most of the time when people smoke too much, they fall asleep
on the couch and then they wake up an hour or two later.
Yeah, typically even with Vape, I think you just go Go.
Okay, I've had enough but they caution anything you put in your
mouth edible teacher. Just be very careful.
Yeah, definitely. All right, be safe out there.
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