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Welcome to cannabis school. 
I'm your host Jessie Angeles and

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I'm Brandon Elder and we're here
to talk to you about everything 

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pertaining to cannabis from 
debate flowering Edibles strains

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and everything in between. 
Okay. 

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Hey everybody. 
Welcome back to Tuesday. 

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We're super excited to be able 
to see you guys again. 

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Hope your week has been well 
Brandon. 

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Ah yeah, it's been a great week.
Yeah. 

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Oh yeah. 
Very chill. 

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It's been pretty chill. 
I'd say for the most part. 

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Yeah, it's I'm sure everybody is
been feeling pretty good about 

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not having smoke going over 
their state right now. 

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So, can I mean, I am right now, 
it's been rough and gross the 

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lat Last. 
Yeah several like weeks. 

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Yeah. 
But you know thank goodness. 

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You know hope everybody's okay 
out there and Northern 

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California our hearts. 
Go out to those people out there

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who've been affected by it, as 
far as their horrible. 

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So talking about too much, smoke
too much, smoke, too much smoke.

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Okay, we're going to be talking 
today about a topic that I 

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think, almost every single 
person has experienced being on 

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cannabis for a while and for 
those who are looking into So 

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good, cautionary, tale for you. 
What are we talking about today?

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Brandon too much too much? 
Is there such a thing? 

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Mme, yes, yeah, I would say. 
So I think there is too much and

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it's dosing, you know, right? 
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would say, for the last 10 years
as and it could have been longer

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than that. 
Definitely. 

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But as concentrates have been 
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I don't want to say in our 
society because it sounds so 

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freaking sociologist, but it's 
just really the Cannabis that 

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you're able to get now. 
Now, compared to what the flower

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child of the 70s in the 60s, 
even they the 80s. 

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Yeah. 
Even then they didn't have the 

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high potency of cannabis as they
do today, even then I'd say when

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I first tried smoking back and 
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Yeah, 2006. 
So it's been stronger. 

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Oh yeah, it's a lot stronger now
than it was back then, even the 

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good stuff back then was nothing
compared to what But there is 

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now. 
Yeah it's so strong today and 

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you get concentrated extracts 
and those are sixty seventy 

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eighty ninety, nine percent. 
You know reminds me of that. 

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Did you ever hear that one? 
911 call from a police officer 

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who took a pot brownie from when
they did a bust was a long time 

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ago and super funny because he 
him and his wife ate these two 

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brownies and then they're 
calling 911 saying I can't feel 

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my body, I think I'm dying. 
Oh my God. 

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He's come help us, funniest 
thing but you know, in that 

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moment and I can share some 
personal experiences here and 

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Brandon can definitely share 
some as well. 

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But for me I've had a few 
instances where I've had too 

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much and so kind of got to go 
through the stages of having too

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much. 
You don't realize it at first 

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that you've had too much, 
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And one of the things that can 
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panic. 
Panic. 

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Yeah, a lot of confusion 
anxiety. 

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Paranoia Panic, fast. 
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supposedly hallucinations, 
increased blood pressure. 

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Sometimes severe nausea vomiting
but that's in prayer. 

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Oh my goodness you know cases I 
told you about that long time 

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ago, right? 
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experiences with having that 
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experimented with cannabis Not 
when I was young but oh well, I 

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would say you lot younger over 
20 years ago when I was in the 

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Navy. 
I was about to get out and 

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smoked a big fat blunt with a 
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like we didn't do anything. 
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on a couch at somebody random 
strangers house tens about 

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right? 
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I mean it was bad but I remember
one time it was a friend she's 

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like hey come over and let's 
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and she's loading up this little
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In we smoked that bowl and after
it, I was like, okay I'm feeling

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really good. 
I'm cracking jokes having a good

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time and then she loads up 
another bowl and the voice in my

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head says don't do that dude. 
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and I said she's like hey you 
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I'm like heck yeah shit. 
So I ended up smoking it in. 

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My laughter went from laughter 
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talking to I just need to hold 
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what's your problem and pushed 
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hallway. 
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I'm puking and it's squirting 
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the I open up the door and I 
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just laid on the floor. 
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It felt so good and I passed 
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She left me on the floor there, 
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What Hell, I don't like I'm so 
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So yeah, the nausea part can 
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Yeah, I have a buddy that when 
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I remember a time that he was 
smoking and apparently got too 

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high and I just thought I needed
to have an exorcism because he 

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just was sitting on the couch 
projectile, vomiting for just 

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like a minute or two and me and 
my My body were just in shock. 

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And I just, I walked to the 
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Grab two or three towels is he's
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him. 
On the puke. 

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Is he just kept puking, was like
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minute and then he finished 
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He was fine? 
Maybe I'm not laughing because 

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it's it is horrible. 
But I'm laughing because I I 

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know what that feels like when 
you're there because it's so 

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hard and we can go into other 
stories of About having too 

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much. 
And when is it that a person 

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should kind of slow it down. 
Is it, is it their tolerance 

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because some people just have a 
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So they don't know how far they 
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I mean, most people who are new 
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they can go. 
Now are what they can handle or 

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what is a good dose for them and
that's, that's always different 

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for each person. 
So test it. 

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Doubt. 
Start, slow and increase it from

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there. 
Now most of the to high doesn't 

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typically come from smoking most
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Edibles. 
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Edibles is unfortunate Edibles 
and teachers with smoke, you're 

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getting a small amount by mg 
into your system and you can, I 

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mean you'd have to smoke Stan. 
Yeah, it's instantaneous you 

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feel it. 
You okay. 

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But with an edible remember, Can
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I've seen that 20-25 minutes on 
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feel hours upwards to three 
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Yeah. 
And then it finally kicks in, 

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and, unfortunately, kicks in all
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people, they'll take like, if 
they've tab too much, they'll 

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have an edible and then they'll 
smoke a little bit and realizing

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that they feel that high right 
away. 

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Then later on, that edible kicks
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your system. 
Boom. 

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Yeah. 
So with Edibles people, often 

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take one not feel it within an 
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feel it. 
Take a third one and all of a 

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sudden all three of them kick in
and they are way higher than 

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they ever thought they would be.
Yeah, my brother actually, he's 

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terrified of Edibles. 
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He's like and even then because 
his body has that kind of like 

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PTSD from it. 
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Like if he has one of them he's 
going to be like crying and 

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throwing. 
The shower, like he's just like 

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I can't handle it. 
And so remember that Edibles are

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they processed way different in 
the body than do an inhalation 

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because it goes straight into 
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But when an edible goes into 
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I believe through your liver. 
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And it creates a different 
chemical, which it absolutely 

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intensifies it and it can last 
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Yeah. 
Some of the best edibles I've 

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had last six. 
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probably high for two to three 
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You feel it coming up. 
So you fill and then a calm down

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of it's decreasing. 
So yeah, yeah. 

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I felt the same thing. 
I felt four hours six to eight 

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hours. 
I felt from an edible or 

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tincture. 
Remember that by putting it in 

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your mouth, it takes a little 
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depends upon the I would say 
even who makes it and how they 

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make it. 
Yeah. 

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A lot of factors from your 
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you've eaten or not, as well as 
how its manufactured who makes 

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it. 
And I think what they make it 

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with because it ranges 
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Yeah I would say that as far as 
Edibles go one of the best, paid

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for Edibles the most tasty and I
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have been from the company 
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Yes. 
So, they just make edibles or 

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that they make CBD. 
They make THC products, but 

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they're th see products there 
indica and sativa you 

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pre-medicated it. 
Each piece is like 20 mg and so,

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you mean, they tell you to half 
it but it's definitely very, 

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very strong by far. 
One of the most potent, but it 

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doesn't last longer I would say 
than six hours. 

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I wonder if the make Brandon 
sized Edibles. 

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I think it's the whole package 
for you. 

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Usually, but I think it's like, 
I think, in every single what 

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it's like to to 400 milligrams 
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They're not pricey. 
Yeah, they're really good. 

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But, you know, even the homemade
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chocolates, baked goods, I'm not
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Okay, yeah, I'm not a big fan 
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stuff all the time, right? 
Chocolates. 

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Pretty good. 
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chocolate. 
Dark chocolate. 

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Yeah, I like dark chocolate. 
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Just go see if you're making 
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It kind of takes the weedy taste
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And I mean, it's really good. 
But to go back into too much. 

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I've had instances where I 
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I know that sounds silly, but I 
had an instant where I was about

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to be home and I probably had 
only five miles left to get home

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and it all kicked in at once. 
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breathe because I became 
extremely paranoid and Scared. 

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Now I wasn't inebriated to the 
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anything but it was really 
scary. 

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And so when they say, you know, 
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it's definitely got to be 
careful on this doing anything. 

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Even hiking. 
If you're doing too much, you 

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could fall down, get hurt, 
really bad. 

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You've got to watch that and 
Edibles by far is the hardest on

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the system because it's a long 
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Yeah, everything else comes down
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Quicker except for really large 
dabs as well. 

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But that's high doses of 
concentrate your body up and 

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it's really hard to get that 
level of. 

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Yeah I've noticed that with 
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Like you just keep it like it. 
There's like a bar that's like 

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nope. 
You can't get any more medicated

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in this stage but you know. 
Okay. 

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So Brandon were too high. 
Do we just have to write it out?

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I mean yeah you can't make it go
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introduce CBD high doses of CBD.
Usually 921 12:50, can't hurt to

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even do 12:40 to bring that way 
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So 20 milligrams of CBD to 1 
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And that will drastically bring 
down the high. 

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The euphoria that you feel. 
You can also chew a couple black

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pepper, pepper corns. 
Oh, really the terpenes and not 

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will help. 
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and water, the lemon terpenes 
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water helps. 
So that's really interesting. 

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I remember that one time I 
called you and I was like, hey 

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man, I am it just started to 
intensify more and more and more

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and he says, hey do you still 
have that teacher of CBD oil? 

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And it's yeah. 
And he goes, go take some of 

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that. 
So I took two droppers of that 

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in about a half hour. 
My body calm down. 

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I wasn't I wasn't you as 
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attacks can come from this and I
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you really got to just take it 
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Oh yeah, yeah. 
With high-dose out of bowls, are

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any dose of edible that is too 
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bowl of that, it was a surprise 
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to eat the whole thing. 
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much is in it after it's gone 
dick and he didn't think that, 

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you know, there would be that 
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Tell me how much is in and he's 
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finishes the whole Brownie and 
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fifteen milligrams in it. 
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entire tray of brownies there 
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that's 115 in the Brownie and 
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tolerance. 
He passed out on the couch for a

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He laid down in the snow next to
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because he was just so hot from 
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said, 36 hours straight. 
That's horrible. 

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looking for So you want to 
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dosing is proper for you. 
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had CBD. 
Yeah, that would have helped a 

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lot. 
It's a live and learn 

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definitely. 
And one thing to look out for is

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that we've talked about 
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come back from a tolerance 
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likeability of taking too much, 
because you'll still remember 

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that. 
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more you'll have Of a full piece
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that's totally fine. 
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there, but you really need to be
careful after our tolerance 

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break because even a short one, 
even after three days. 

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Oh yeah, you're going to feel 
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and it was you know, coming back
to it definitely. 

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Just you know, I will just say 
this it's quite economical now 

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for me. 
Oh yeah. 

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Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. 
I've looked at that so many 

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times going and imagine how much
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lower tolerance and I try and 
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come back and I take 100 mg 
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Geez. 
That would tend 5, I would feel 

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that. 
So I feel for you and I feel for

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those out there who are having 
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it's not It's just not fun. 
Just not fun now. 

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So definitely watch your house. 
I know, I have actually had an 

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experience of too much. 
This is this is crazy. 

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Okay yeah, I know. 
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usually I dose everything of 
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exactly my experience of what 
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exactly where I can get that. 
How what my levels are? 

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What my dosing is. 
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and this I hadn't dosed out yet 
and I made some tea and I just 

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put a tablespoon in this entire 
French Press of T and I drank 

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the whole French press and hours
later. 

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You know, it was fine. 
Crap bedtime, didn't feel really

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high went to bed woke up in the 
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I never do that. 
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And I saw tracers like fractal 
pattern tracers from this edible

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that was kicked in and I sat in 
there and then I App and I 

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blacked out for a split second I
blacked out and I'm laying there

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in the bathroom floor, trying to
get up, trying to be really 

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quiet because my girlfriend's 
asleep in the other room and so 

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I'm sitting there trying to get 
up and of course you heard the 

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thud. 
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up, she opens the doors on the 
other side. 

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Are you okay? 
And I'm like, yeah, I'm good. 

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I just blacked out for half a 
second. 

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Like, I don't know what happened
before. 

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That is the weirdest thing 
because I never really 

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experienced too much. 
Then I got backup went to bed. 

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Woke up three, four hours later,
they'll just fine. 

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So my body processes th see very
quickly so usually my Edibles 

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don't last as long. 
It takes Alexander something in 

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the butter that made it stay 
longer when you make edible that

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has stayed here too fat. 
The THC molecule has to adhere 

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to fat, and that's the way it's 
going to be able to work in the 

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system. 
That's why it takes so long. 

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That's why when you eat your 
food, you don't immediately get 

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everything from it. 
It takes time to digest. 

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So you have to be very careful 
with it. 

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Yeah, again, going back to, you 
know, if you're smoking it's a 

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little bit easier. 
I think, when you smoke too 

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much, you just get really tired.
Yeah. 

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Most of the time when people 
smoke too much, they fall asleep

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on the couch and then they wake 
up an hour or two later. 

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Yeah, typically even with Vape, 
I think you just go Go. 

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Okay, I've had enough but they 
caution anything you put in your

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mouth edible teacher. 
Just be very careful. 

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Yeah, definitely. 
All right, be safe out there. 

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Everybody now your dose know 
your dose low and slow. 

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