1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,080 Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angelus. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,040 And I'm Brandon Elder and we're here to talk to you about 3 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:13,400 everything pertaining to cannabis from Vait Flower 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,800 edibles, strains and everything in between. 5 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:24,760 Well, hey guys, welcome back. We are super excited to be able 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,760 to introduce an amazing company and their background is 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:44,280 absolutely killer. Which is really interesting 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,480 because HHC is a compound that until we tried these windy 9 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Janes, yeah. They've got such a long story 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,440 and we're going to be focusing on mainly on a product that they 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,640 create. Yeah. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:52,600 And that's in the HHC. I hadn't actually broken into 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,520 HHC. Have you? 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,200 No, no. I popped my cherry with this 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:55,920 one. Definitely. 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,160 This was it was really good. So we want to be able to 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,160 introduce, I want you guys to introduce yourselves actually 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,000 so. Yeah, I'm Abalash Abalash 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Sharma, a chemical engineer. Our company's PME by design, 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,200 We're an engineering consulting service company. 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,760 We kind of have been in the cannabis space, at least Mark 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,400 and I have for about almost 10 years at least, in and out of 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,800 all the different states where it's legal, illegal, kind of 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,160 playing all the different spaces. 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,950 And we're. Just kind of trying to push the 26 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:28,590 industry forward with a cleaner, better product and bring it into 27 00:01:28,590 --> 00:01:31,110 a more professional world, which you guys definitely understand 28 00:01:31,110 --> 00:01:34,590 needs to happen, yeah. Yeah, I'm Mark Jolly. 29 00:01:34,710 --> 00:01:37,230 I tell everybody I'm a farm boy from Idaho. 30 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:41,910 I did grow up just South of Pocatello, up there in Idaho and 31 00:01:42,270 --> 00:01:46,710 join the military the young age and spent my life in engineering 32 00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:50,790 and getting an MBA and. Building factories all over the 33 00:01:50,790 --> 00:01:53,910 world, so. Does Idaho know you're out here 34 00:01:53,910 --> 00:01:56,310 telling people that you helped A pretty legal there. 35 00:01:57,750 --> 00:01:59,510 I think by proxy they're gonna arrest you. 36 00:01:59,630 --> 00:02:02,470 Yeah. Well, I haven't applied for the 37 00:02:02,470 --> 00:02:05,870 application yet, but I got 700 acres that's taken for it. 38 00:02:05,870 --> 00:02:08,430 So yeah, well, it is. So. 39 00:02:08,870 --> 00:02:11,470 They finally opened it up for grow Up there in Idaho, and 40 00:02:11,470 --> 00:02:13,110 they're trying to figure it out. For him. 41 00:02:13,450 --> 00:02:16,210 For him? I didn't want to make it. 42 00:02:13,770 --> 00:02:19,290 Oh, okay, very. Well, Idaho's a little slower 43 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:23,090 behind that, but I mean that's I think maybe because of the, the 44 00:02:23,090 --> 00:02:26,650 recent boom of growth there that would definitely be appealing to 45 00:02:26,650 --> 00:02:28,850 them. Yeah, their infrastructure can't 46 00:02:28,850 --> 00:02:30,650 handle that. There's no infrastructure. 47 00:02:30,650 --> 00:02:35,490 I mean the the hemp side of this, this industry has 48 00:02:35,490 --> 00:02:39,010 struggled because you know so many farmers got into it. 49 00:02:39,050 --> 00:02:41,480 The. The yields were huge and then a 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,880 lot of guys didn't know what they were doing and then it 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,320 crashed and you guys have seen it. 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,560 I mean so. Many hundreds of millions of 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,200 dollars wasted on trying to get into something that people 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,400 didn't understand and they didn't know because we, you 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,760 know, as Americans, we have such a short memory, we quit studying 56 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,510 it in the 60s and. Look where it's got, it's you 57 00:03:02,510 --> 00:03:05,750 know we're behind the 8 ball as far as science and Oh yeah. 58 00:03:05,870 --> 00:03:08,790 Well, because before then it was required like hemp's been grown 59 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:11,790 anyway and when we first founded the country it was required to 60 00:03:11,790 --> 00:03:14,950 grow hemp like. So it's ridiculous that we are 61 00:03:14,950 --> 00:03:18,470 so behind the times with such a like there's a lot to this 62 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:21,870 plant, let's be honest. But at the same time, it is such 63 00:03:21,870 --> 00:03:25,230 simple, basic things that it's, you know, we we should know 64 00:03:25,230 --> 00:03:27,950 better. It's an amazing plant on all 65 00:03:27,950 --> 00:03:29,390 sides, right? Yeah. 66 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:31,310 And and we're scratching the surface. 67 00:03:31,790 --> 00:03:36,670 Whether you're talking, you know, the the good stuff or the 68 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:39,430 hemp stuff, both of it, we're still just scratching the 69 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:41,910 surface. Yeah, well, how many compounds 70 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:43,270 have we discovered at this point? 71 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:46,510 Several hundred? Yeah, not that many. 72 00:03:46,510 --> 00:03:51,350 And what got you guys to choose HHC as your compound? 73 00:03:52,030 --> 00:03:54,910 It's very scientific was actually our founding because we 74 00:03:54,910 --> 00:03:58,070 started off with a delta, a well we started off with CBD and we 75 00:03:58,070 --> 00:04:01,590 were both very focused on kind of bringing this industry into a 76 00:04:01,590 --> 00:04:04,390 place where it can help people with the opioid crisis and with 77 00:04:04,390 --> 00:04:07,290 their pain management and. I mean, we all know cannabis is 78 00:04:07,290 --> 00:04:10,690 the best for pain management and CBD is not as good as THC, but 79 00:04:10,730 --> 00:04:12,570 people don't really wanna get high all the time. 80 00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:15,290 You wanna kind of wake up in the morning, take something and go 81 00:04:15,290 --> 00:04:17,410 to work and a lot. I don't know about that, Yeah. 82 00:04:18,329 --> 00:04:21,089 Yeah, I mean, well, this guy. I'm not high. 83 00:04:21,370 --> 00:04:23,570 I wake up and I have chronic pain. 84 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:26,250 But for me, I wake up and I puff in a pen. 85 00:04:26,250 --> 00:04:29,080 I. Set up the Zenko. 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:30,840 I completely understand that. I'm like taking a dab or I go 87 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,080 smoke a bowl, but then I sit down and work like that's how I 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,880 function. It's, and that's why we're kind 89 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,920 of looking at the other side of the spectrum where it's kind of 90 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,680 soccer moms and people with like, you know, to have to take 91 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,120 their kids from. Everyone else who doesn't have 92 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,480 chronic pain and still wants to function, yeah. 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,600 Or the people that are scared to death. 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,680 I mean, I, you know, when when I got into it down in California, 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,680 these huge facilities, I mean there were so many. 96 00:04:57,060 --> 00:05:00,540 People that I knew that had pain but would never walk into a 97 00:05:00,540 --> 00:05:02,540 dispensary because they're scared. 98 00:05:02,540 --> 00:05:04,660 They're like, what do I do? What do I buy? 99 00:05:04,660 --> 00:05:05,100 What? What? 100 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:08,020 What's good? What is, you know, Yeah. 101 00:05:08,020 --> 00:05:13,140 And the education is pathetic. And then, you know the 102 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:18,500 professionalism of our industry was lacking and probably still 103 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:22,620 is lacking in the science and in the engineering and in the 104 00:05:22,620 --> 00:05:26,100 development of taking it to that level where. 105 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Where Windy the gal that we named this brand after would 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,240 actually go in she she would never go into a store never go 107 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,680 into a place because that was just taboo and now she takes one 108 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,160 every day because she sleeps amazing you know because she 109 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,480 does that and you know that and and the opioid crisis was a big 110 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:50,760 deal yeah so many kids lives got destroyed and and we we were on 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,120 the on the THC side right. We've built a lot of THC. 112 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,320 Equipment and facilities for people. 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,360 And we just said, you know, can we do this better? 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Can we give people pain relief and maybe give them more of a 115 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,760 body high than a head high. And so we started to look at, 116 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,640 you know, more of more and more of the science, which he's 117 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,120 amazing at. This kid can make, we can make 118 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,040 any of them, we can do all of them, but he's really good at 119 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,000 making it very, very, very clean so. 120 00:06:23,130 --> 00:06:27,250 I will say that in the flavor in that I don't taste any. 121 00:06:27,370 --> 00:06:29,650 Yeah, that's one of the things I wanted to say because that at 122 00:06:29,770 --> 00:06:34,570 all, you know, my wife is, she's very judgmental on anything 123 00:06:34,570 --> 00:06:36,450 that. Very sensitive with the flavors. 124 00:06:36,450 --> 00:06:39,730 Yeah, flavors, I mean it, you know, we understand it's plant 125 00:06:39,730 --> 00:06:42,410 and plant medicine. There was this one CBD that we 126 00:06:42,410 --> 00:06:47,270 took and it's like super potent, very organic, it's awesome. 127 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:50,150 It's a made one of the best Cbd's I've ever tried, but it 128 00:06:50,150 --> 00:06:51,470 tastes like ass. It's. 129 00:06:51,750 --> 00:06:55,270 So tastes like medicine. It's not A and they mix some 130 00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:57,230 stuff in there to try and make it taste better, but it just 131 00:06:57,230 --> 00:06:59,990 made it worse. And you're like, oh oh, and it's 132 00:06:59,990 --> 00:07:04,870 like waves of awfulness. But this I tell you I when I ate 133 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:10,230 it, I was like that's surprisingly really good and and 134 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:14,110 I judge these really hard like there's there's one brand that I 135 00:07:14,110 --> 00:07:19,630 really enjoy they make a really strong THC edible and they're 136 00:07:19,630 --> 00:07:21,990 based out of Oregon great company wild. 137 00:07:22,910 --> 00:07:24,950 Yeah, I know them well, yeah, we actually know their founder, 138 00:07:24,990 --> 00:07:28,830 Christopher Joseph and and I I met him that that's actually 139 00:07:28,830 --> 00:07:31,950 kind of how this got started was I was a partner with the 140 00:07:31,950 --> 00:07:35,750 podcasting agency and they're like, we need to get a cannabis 141 00:07:35,750 --> 00:07:38,370 podcast. And I reached out to every and 142 00:07:38,450 --> 00:07:40,930 they're like, yeah, it sounds cool, but it's not really for my 143 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:42,450 brand. And it couldn't be. 144 00:07:42,970 --> 00:07:45,210 So we were sitting after a couple of years and we're like, 145 00:07:45,210 --> 00:07:48,290 you know, let's just take this idea that we came up with and 146 00:07:48,290 --> 00:07:50,130 then let's craft it, let's make it better. 147 00:07:50,650 --> 00:07:53,770 Made more sense for us, Yeah, but not for. 148 00:07:54,490 --> 00:07:59,290 Them a brand because to go, hey, this is for end user and user 149 00:07:59,290 --> 00:08:01,650 focus. No brand is going to focus on 150 00:08:01,650 --> 00:08:05,060 anything. Fairly well, and you're just 151 00:08:05,060 --> 00:08:06,380 talking about yourself the whole time. 152 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:09,580 Being their brand and so and. That's not education. 153 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:11,060 We need objective. Kind of. 154 00:08:11,060 --> 00:08:13,260 Fruits about this industry, which now going, this is 155 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:15,580 wonderful. Like I love their flavors, 156 00:08:15,820 --> 00:08:17,180 right? I really do. 157 00:08:17,180 --> 00:08:21,540 And I have yet to try and find a flavor that is just as good. 158 00:08:21,860 --> 00:08:24,140 And these ones are even better because there's our, I mean, 159 00:08:24,340 --> 00:08:26,020 yeah, it's made out of fruit pulp. 160 00:08:26,060 --> 00:08:28,700 And, you know, the shelf life has got to be really short on 161 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:30,980 those. And they're, they're very tasty. 162 00:08:30,980 --> 00:08:36,179 But these ones were so, so good. My wife had them. 163 00:08:36,620 --> 00:08:40,460 And I'll tell you what she had. So she felt it in her back for a 164 00:08:40,460 --> 00:08:42,620 while, but she was kind of relaxed and went to sleep. 165 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:44,020 So I'm thinking, oh, it's super mild. 166 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:46,380 Brandon, you ate how many the first time? 167 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:52,820 22 But I also had a lot of other cannabinoids in me and my dose. 168 00:08:52,860 --> 00:08:55,500 I I honestly wasn't sure if I felt it so. 169 00:08:55,580 --> 00:08:59,880 So for me though, we, my wife and I was last Saturday and we 170 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,520 went, we went shopping. It was date night, you know, we 171 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,560 went, we went food shopping because that's what we do with 172 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:07,680 five kids. And so we get out there and I I 173 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:10,440 pop this, I'm like, I'm going to see what happens because I just 174 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,280 got done smoking earlier in the day. 175 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,040 And I was like, I'm pretty mellowed out, took a bunch of 176 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,640 CBD. And I'm like, I'm going to level 177 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,040 this out to base and I'm going to go out and experience this. 178 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,680 And I remember you saying, like, you're going to feel it in the 179 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:26,920 body. I felt it all over my entire 180 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,320 body, my head, my, my toes. And it progressively got 181 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,000 stronger, but not in the sense of unmanageable. 182 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,360 It was waves of happiness. That's the best way to be able 183 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,760 because I might have arthritis in my hands. 184 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,400 And and you know, congratulations for my dad, 185 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,200 right? Thanks for pressing that, Gene. 186 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,640 But I didn't get any of the pain. 187 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,400 And I've got a bad ACL. It's all torn. 188 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 And meniscus is just junk and it hurts all the time. 189 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:57,140 I didn't feel that either after one. 190 00:09:57,220 --> 00:10:00,340 And The thing is, I'm, I'm a pretty consistent user. 191 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:05,100 Yeah, yeah, I use every day. And whether it's flour or 192 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:08,660 concentrate, I use that. And you were saying like, hey, 193 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:11,740 you might need to take two. So I tell Brandon, hey, you may 194 00:10:11,740 --> 00:10:16,340 need to take 5 because. Oh, you're the same way. 195 00:10:16,900 --> 00:10:18,820 Nice. We actually have a 25 milligram 196 00:10:18,820 --> 00:10:21,220 version as well for people, yeah, that's what the higher 197 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:22,420 dosage limit. Yeah. 198 00:10:22,420 --> 00:10:25,060 Well, I took six. I took three about an hour 199 00:10:25,060 --> 00:10:27,660 before we started recording and then it took the remaining three 200 00:10:27,660 --> 00:10:29,980 that we're in the package just, you know, at the beginning. 201 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:34,540 So, yeah, but it's so I I love the consistency in the feel and 202 00:10:34,540 --> 00:10:37,340 that's kind of what I really wanted to talk to you guys about 203 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:42,100 is take us through that because synthetics we were not very. 204 00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:44,740 Well, I'm not a big fan of synthetics. 205 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:47,900 I'm not to be. Honest, because most of it came 206 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:51,260 from our Delta 8 experiences. Yeah, we got some really shitty 207 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:54,500 Delta 8. As everyone knows, is like just 208 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:58,420 degrading or trying to alter the CBD compound and turn it into 209 00:10:58,420 --> 00:11:00,540 the Delta 9. Yeah, it's cannabis light. 210 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:03,780 And they're getting, yeah, to D8 now. 211 00:11:04,260 --> 00:11:06,940 Isn't HHS part of the? Problem, right Part The part of 212 00:11:06,940 --> 00:11:08,980 the problem is some of these companies. 213 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:13,790 Have zero science, right? We've we really, what we do is 214 00:11:13,790 --> 00:11:16,150 build factories. That's really what we've done. 215 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:19,510 That's all I've done on my life. I've built factories in China 216 00:11:19,510 --> 00:11:23,750 and Vietnam and Mexico. In Portugal I spent four years 217 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:26,670 and I build these factories for different products. 218 00:11:26,670 --> 00:11:29,670 But it's all science based. You know engineering is very 219 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:32,710 black and white. Chemical engineering is very 220 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:36,590 black and white. This industry has suffered from 221 00:11:36,590 --> 00:11:39,320 the lack thereof. And I can't tell you how many 222 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,640 factories we go in. And we say, where's your 223 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,240 engineer? Where's your lead scientist? 224 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,040 And the guy's got a high school degree. 225 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,280 He's been smoking his whole life. 226 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,280 You know, he worked on a, you know, a distillation column some 227 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,960 place. And we're like. 228 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,640 You don't even understand what the temperature range is. 229 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,680 You don't understand anything about vacuum. 230 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:01,560 You don't understand anything about purity. 231 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,040 And you know, to be clear, like that's fine in a small lab, but 232 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,360 these guys are running like $50 million facilities. 233 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,600 Like it's not. That's disappointing. 234 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:14,480 We went to a huge one over in Florida and I I literally was 235 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,800 scared because the safety factor of walking through that factory 236 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,680 was sketchy. Are there companies that you 237 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:25,030 can? Stare us away from in that 238 00:12:25,190 --> 00:12:27,710 range. Personally, like for my parents 239 00:12:27,710 --> 00:12:30,070 for example, all these alternative cannabinoids my mom 240 00:12:30,070 --> 00:12:32,070 suffers from from guy I guess insomnia. 241 00:12:32,070 --> 00:12:34,790 She has a lot of issues sleeping and I told her try some delta, 242 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:38,070 try some HHC and we weren't producing it at that point. 243 00:12:38,070 --> 00:12:40,870 And I honestly told her, why don't you wait until we make it? 244 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:43,510 Because I don't feel comfortable with her going to a gas station. 245 00:12:43,710 --> 00:12:45,110 And something random. Yeah. 246 00:12:45,110 --> 00:12:47,510 And I don't know about any online company because. 247 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:50,490 As I'm sure you guys know, the COA is not representative of the 248 00:12:50,490 --> 00:12:53,010 stuff you're buying, no. It's a batch from two years ago 249 00:12:53,010 --> 00:12:55,330 and there's no way it's in the car and it smells different, it 250 00:12:55,330 --> 00:12:57,530 tastes different. It's just madness and. 251 00:12:57,610 --> 00:12:59,410 It's terrible. I mean, I wouldn't say nobody 252 00:12:59,410 --> 00:13:02,330 else is doing it right, but I'm very hesitant about the people I 253 00:13:02,330 --> 00:13:04,930 care about that how them just take it easy, maybe go to a 254 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:07,410 dispensary or let me get something to you. 255 00:13:07,410 --> 00:13:10,250 Something that one of your podcasts, the guy was, I can't 256 00:13:10,250 --> 00:13:12,250 remember, maybe it was Chris, one of them. 257 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:15,530 He's like, well, if you smell it and it smells good or you know. 258 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:18,910 Trust your instincts. Well when you take that gummy or 259 00:13:18,910 --> 00:13:21,950 that edible and it tastes like ass, something's wrong. 260 00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:27,950 You know some scientists or didn't know what he was doing 261 00:13:28,270 --> 00:13:31,670 you know at all and this industry is completely packed 262 00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:33,990 full of them. You know some of them are 263 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:38,390 awesome companies and a couple here in Utah are absolutely 264 00:13:38,390 --> 00:13:42,590 amazing and and they're you know, but we need to go to CGMP. 265 00:13:42,590 --> 00:13:45,510 We need to have standards and requirements and. 266 00:13:45,770 --> 00:13:49,210 Yeah, very high bar if we ever want to see this go to the next 267 00:13:49,210 --> 00:13:51,690 level, you know? Well, it's how you get consumer 268 00:13:51,690 --> 00:13:55,410 level quality, right and like actually make sure that your 269 00:13:55,410 --> 00:13:59,490 products are good for your consumer versus just going, hey, 270 00:13:59,490 --> 00:14:02,570 we're people who have used cannabis our whole life and. 271 00:14:02,900 --> 00:14:06,700 I've made Inedible and I got my friends high and so it's like, 272 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:09,740 yeah, I can do this and it's. A huge safety concern. 273 00:14:09,740 --> 00:14:11,780 I'm sure you guys remember the Vitamin E acetator show that 274 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:13,860 came out in. California, there's going to be 275 00:14:13,860 --> 00:14:15,900 another. One, we still have signs here 276 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:18,940 all over, and it'll say, like, they're all over the stores. 277 00:14:18,940 --> 00:14:20,300 You'll see them on the doors as you go in. 278 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:22,980 It'll be like vaping. Unregulated THC is bad for your 279 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:24,940 help. Yeah, because of that vitamin E 280 00:14:24,940 --> 00:14:27,340 stuff that they hadn't. And it was like, how many of 281 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:30,660 those or heavy metals or other things are you finding across 282 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:31,180 that? Because. 283 00:14:31,550 --> 00:14:33,110 There isn't the standard regulation. 284 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:37,990 There's not this like across the board level of quality that we 285 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:41,030 have. And a lot of the guys jump into 286 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:44,550 the industry, both sides, right, and say, well, it's a good 287 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:46,990 business opportunity, so we're going to throw money at it. 288 00:14:47,270 --> 00:14:51,830 We've seen factories that were $150 million, they couldn't 289 00:14:51,830 --> 00:14:54,270 produce a Ding thing. So they call us and say come 290 00:14:54,270 --> 00:14:56,950 help us, we go look at it. We're like, where's your 291 00:14:56,950 --> 00:14:58,070 science? Where's your? 292 00:14:58,550 --> 00:15:01,150 You know, you show us the nothing. 293 00:15:01,190 --> 00:15:04,790 They don't have these. These are these are big, big 294 00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:08,230 companies here in the US. We see it all the time. 295 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:10,310 Product. It's because people come in and 296 00:15:10,310 --> 00:15:13,550 they think, well, cannabis is a money market. 297 00:15:13,830 --> 00:15:18,150 You just have to have the money and make it and you'll make tons 298 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:20,430 of money. But yet you go into it and it's 299 00:15:20,430 --> 00:15:23,990 like, OK, but you don't realize how much science goes into it. 300 00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:27,080 I invested in a grow. And brought Jesse in to be the 301 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,200 CEO because the founder was he didn't know I mean. 302 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,800 It doesn't say he didn't know most of these cannabis companies 303 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,560 from what I've understood. Because before I had that kind 304 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,200 of illusion that the cannabis industry was so regulated 305 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,720 because from when I was growing up, it was like, hey, I got a 306 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,200 guy who's going to contact to when it starts becoming more 307 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,600 mainstream and he picked me up a pen and I'm thinking like, cool. 308 00:15:53,070 --> 00:15:56,230 I mean, I had not used cannabis for like 10 years before he 309 00:15:56,230 --> 00:15:59,350 brought it back into my life. And I'm like, OK, well, this 310 00:15:59,350 --> 00:16:01,710 must be super regulated. This is cool. 311 00:16:01,710 --> 00:16:04,830 It's in a it's an actual device. This looks cool. 312 00:16:04,830 --> 00:16:07,350 This is neat. What I find out is labels. 313 00:16:07,510 --> 00:16:09,110 Right. I mean, it came from a farm. 314 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:12,270 It's like an actual dispensary. It came a dispensary, but even. 315 00:16:12,270 --> 00:16:14,470 Then still the level of qualities that you see across 316 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:17,990 there, well, it's if you take it from there and it goes to where 317 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:21,510 it's being run by individuals who have no idea how to run a 318 00:16:21,510 --> 00:16:23,350 business, right. And so it's. 319 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:25,470 Business people who know absolutely nothing about 320 00:16:25,470 --> 00:16:27,710 cannabis. Manufacturing, yeah. 321 00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:30,270 And really a lot of the issue comes in the the. 322 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,400 I mean, the lack of regulations is an issue on manufacturing, 323 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,720 but the testing is also kind of atrocious. 324 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,760 Yeah, you can't trust the OAS I I worked. 325 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,720 In a lot of the testing companies that provided the guy. 326 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Yeah. It's terrible. 327 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,160 And so they're like. They change the numbers for. 328 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,080 Yeah. And they're like, hey, or we'll 329 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,320 just send it out to another one because we know they'll test it 330 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,120 and get like. Test it for what they want, 331 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:50,840 right? Yeah. 332 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,560 And then the cannabis, we call it the cannabis tax. 333 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,080 We laugh out all the time. Yeah, I mean the plant that 334 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,730 just. Evaporated over in Oregon, $150 335 00:16:59,730 --> 00:17:04,089 million, right. And you, you see these guys go 336 00:17:04,089 --> 00:17:07,369 down to Vegas to the show and they walk in and they just start 337 00:17:07,369 --> 00:17:09,530 buying equipment. Oh, we'll take one of those and 338 00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:10,930 one of those. They have no idea what they're 339 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,329 buying. They go spend 150. 340 00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:16,930 We've built, I don't know three or four facilities that could 341 00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:22,170 outproduce that facility, $150 million facility, you know 342 00:17:22,170 --> 00:17:26,369 produce less than 2000 kilos a month, we can do. 3000 kilos a 343 00:17:26,369 --> 00:17:28,210 month for less than 5,000,000 bucks. 344 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:31,410 Because you. Know because we understand that 345 00:17:31,610 --> 00:17:35,890 this column is used in the Pharmaceutical industry and if 346 00:17:35,890 --> 00:17:38,210 you buy it over here in the Pharmaceutical industry, it 347 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:40,410 works better. It's the exact same thing. 348 00:17:40,650 --> 00:17:43,490 But it doesn't come with that cannabis tax of three times the 349 00:17:43,490 --> 00:17:46,050 amount of money. I mean some of these equipment 350 00:17:46,050 --> 00:17:51,690 guys are just Oh my gosh, it's it's it's multifaceted, right. 351 00:17:51,690 --> 00:17:54,010 We have people that don't understand these machines. 352 00:17:54,010 --> 00:17:57,890 They look at them and go. So the synthetics where we 353 00:17:57,890 --> 00:18:00,130 started, you saying you kind of got a bad rap? 354 00:18:00,450 --> 00:18:04,770 Of course you do, because the synthetic is based on the basic 355 00:18:04,770 --> 00:18:08,330 gradient. If I can't get good CBD, how can 356 00:18:08,330 --> 00:18:12,410 I make anything good out of it? You know, if the plant sucks and 357 00:18:12,410 --> 00:18:15,970 it smells like dog, it's going to suck on the other end. 358 00:18:16,170 --> 00:18:17,690 Oh yeah. You know, so there's a massive 359 00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:21,650 difference even in quality of grows here that I've seen just 360 00:18:21,650 --> 00:18:24,300 on him. Makes a huge difference. 361 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:26,900 And you're like OK, down to soil and everything else that they're 362 00:18:26,900 --> 00:18:29,540 doing. And you can see a massive 363 00:18:29,540 --> 00:18:31,540 difference in the like the end crop. 364 00:18:31,940 --> 00:18:35,500 And then you kind of look at it like I, I look at and and there 365 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:36,940 are going to be people who are listening to this. 366 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:39,180 They're going to go like, dude, you're shitting on my industry, 367 00:18:39,220 --> 00:18:43,140 and I totally am, because the cannabis industry resembles a 368 00:18:43,140 --> 00:18:46,220 lot of the solar industry they're taking they. 369 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:49,820 Think they're just Vivint Bros? Well, I mean, not by that 370 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:53,660 meaning that they're taking advantage of a system to be able 371 00:18:53,660 --> 00:18:56,980 to produce money for themselves, but not by being able to produce 372 00:18:56,980 --> 00:18:58,140 a high quality product. Yeah. 373 00:18:58,740 --> 00:19:01,580 And when they're putting it out there with the misconception 374 00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:05,100 that it's going to be better, it's going to be healthier, it's 375 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:08,780 going to be more in a line with you, with your moral standards 376 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:12,720 when we're talking about any synthetics compared to a THC, 377 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,080 because that's where a lot of there's a Gray area. 378 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,280 For those who are hyperreligious or or whatever it may be, 379 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,440 they're like, hey, though, I can't take that, you know? 380 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,760 I can't smoke the devil's lettuce. 381 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,960 Cool. How about this gummy? 382 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,760 What does it do? As it helps with pain. 383 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,240 OK, because. It Why do you think that we went 384 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,920 that directly? Because it it is and we love 385 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,320 this industry, OK? We love it on all aspects. 386 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,200 We also hate it because. We need more engineers and 387 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,120 scientists. We need more education and we 388 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:45,920 need higher standards. You know if you build great 389 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,000 products it'll come and and and we. 390 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,040 We do a lot of building for other people because we're not a 391 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,480 big company, but we end up helping all the big companies 392 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,240 we. We fly all over the place to go 393 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,440 solve these problems because we want the industry to be picked. 394 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Yeah, we want them to be consistent because there's not 395 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,600 enough consistent cannabis brands that are out there that 396 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,120 you can say is a brand, right. It's not even the different 397 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:12,560 brands, but within the brand itself. 398 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,920 Well, how often has aspirin changed in their form? 399 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,360 Exactly these companies you can't go and buy the same gummy 400 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,120 two months later and get the same effect from. 401 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:19,800 Nope, and that's a problem when you're using it for medicine 402 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,480 like you don't. You expect to take two 403 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,440 multivitamins a day, not one and a half one. 404 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,400 Right. Like if you're going. 405 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Do it for medication. Why the fuck is the formula 406 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,240 changing? Keep your same formula. 407 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,240 Yeah, the molecule is the molecule. 408 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,400 Yeah, change it to another one if you're like, cool. 409 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,200 Well, this one's for this. OK, cool. 410 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Keep this formula for this. Find a different formula for 411 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,440 something else and go for that for that. 412 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,840 And it is very nuanced. With cannabis, as you guys know, 413 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,800 because of the terpenes and the entourage effect, yeah, there's 414 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,920 a it's almost impossible to replicate it. 415 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,360 But that's kind of why we took the step back and rather than 416 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,920 saying let's make a great cannabis product that we can use 417 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,700 to help people. We're gonna take a compound 418 00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:59,900 which we know works like Advil, like ibuprofen, and put that in 419 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:02,220 a delivery mechanism that people are comfortable using. 420 00:21:02,580 --> 00:21:04,820 So we found found the best compound, really. 421 00:21:04,820 --> 00:21:07,980 It's not HHC, it's a it's one of the compounds at the Israeli 422 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:10,820 university that studies built. So take us through that, like 423 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:12,660 take us through your compound. What, what? 424 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:17,500 How do you guys, what is HHC? So let's kind of, let's educate 425 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:19,580 our audience on that one. What is HHC? 426 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:21,820 And take us through the compound of why? 427 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:24,340 But you felt that you guys have been able to create something 428 00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:26,620 that's quite remarkable. Yeah, absolutely. 429 00:21:26,620 --> 00:21:32,140 So HHC is Hexa Hydro Cannabino. It's just another cannabinoid 430 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:35,620 like D8D9D10, all the ones you guys have heard about. 431 00:21:36,580 --> 00:21:39,100 It's made from CBD. So it's one of these semi 432 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:41,540 synthetic or synthetic cannabinoids like D8. 433 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,800 But it's kind of further down the process line. 434 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,440 So from a production standpoint, you isomerize CBD to turn it 435 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,840 into Delta 8 and then you hydrogenate D8 to turn it into 436 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,880 HHC. So it's a similar process that 437 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,760 they do and it's actually how you make margarine. 438 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,560 It's a part of the process for making diesel. 439 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,680 It's very common chemical processing. 440 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,560 But getting it to that high purity and high scale of course 441 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,000 takes a lot of kind of meticulous R&D, process design, 442 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,440 equipment design and that's what we focused on in the past year. 443 00:22:10,790 --> 00:22:12,470 So we knew the compound exists, right? 444 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:15,670 This was isolated in the 70s. It's nothing magical here, but 445 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:18,790 getting it out of the comp, out of the plant, out of super high 446 00:22:18,790 --> 00:22:21,910 purity where we wouldn't say it's pharma grade, but it's 447 00:22:21,950 --> 00:22:24,510 almost at the level where you can trust it to be exactly that 448 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:28,030 compound and nothing else. It's 99% HHC that we put in 449 00:22:28,030 --> 00:22:30,110 there. Getting it to that level and 450 00:22:30,110 --> 00:22:32,710 getting that kind of confidence just took a lot of R&D. 451 00:22:33,030 --> 00:22:36,030 So we have an in house lab, We have kind of our own HBLC bench 452 00:22:36,030 --> 00:22:39,310 top systems and I've done a lot of academic research in the 453 00:22:39,310 --> 00:22:41,790 past, so I feel super comfortable just kind of diving 454 00:22:41,790 --> 00:22:44,310 in and figuring that out. And then once we got to the 455 00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:47,470 point where we got our 99%, figured out our formula, did all 456 00:22:47,470 --> 00:22:51,430 of the testing, we went to an NMR lab and identified all the 457 00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:53,630 compounds we didn't know, figured out getting all the 458 00:22:53,630 --> 00:22:57,270 heavy metals out. It was very, very methodological 459 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:59,630 to be sure the final product is pure and safe. 460 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:02,070 And then I turned the mark and kind of say, hey, we got to 461 00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:03,990 scale this up. We got to start producing keys 462 00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:06,350 instead of grams. And we kind of brainstormed 463 00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:09,110 together and got to a point where we took this to market. 464 00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:11,750 And we just gave it to friends and families and said we think 465 00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:14,430 this compound is great for pain management and you won't get 466 00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:16,950 high. And so that's really the, you 467 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:19,750 know, because my parents are afraid of cannabis, they don't 468 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:21,070 want that high. They've always grown up. 469 00:23:21,070 --> 00:23:23,230 They told me in high school when they caught me smoking pot like 470 00:23:23,230 --> 00:23:24,900 you're going to. You're going to drop out, you're 471 00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:27,060 going to do this and that, and that's just the way they grew 472 00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:28,620 up. But they'll take these gummies 473 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:30,940 because they know it's not going to get them that high. 474 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:33,900 My dad's a goal. My dad's a high school principal 475 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:36,300 from the 80s. Ronald Reagan. 476 00:23:36,620 --> 00:23:39,820 Say no to drugs. Oh yeah, I mean he is Mr. Anti 477 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:44,060 drug his entire life. 3 fused vertebraes in his back, takes a 478 00:23:44,060 --> 00:23:47,180 half of 1 twice a day and lives his life. 479 00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:51,660 And we have had hundreds of people say, man, I got a bad hip 480 00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:54,510 and I don't, I can. Do it, I can live or I can take 481 00:23:54,510 --> 00:23:57,710 it and go to bed and sleep. But it's it's kind of the 482 00:23:57,710 --> 00:24:01,510 combination of both of us that make it magic and it's not just 483 00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:06,070 our product like every factory we go in we try to automate it 484 00:24:06,550 --> 00:24:11,750 so that you can eliminate that human factor and and you know I 485 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:17,630 mean we, we really want to build a CBD facility from end to end. 486 00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:22,610 That no one's done yet because we need consistent CBD to take 487 00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:26,690 it to the next level. We need great isolate phenomenon 488 00:24:26,770 --> 00:24:31,530 and it can't be made in a batch, can't be made in, you know half 489 00:24:31,530 --> 00:24:36,210 of these scary places and some of them are amazing places and 490 00:24:36,290 --> 00:24:38,570 and some of them here in Utah are amazing places. 491 00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:43,810 But the industry needs a new standard and it needs a CGMP 492 00:24:43,810 --> 00:24:48,600 facility from end to end. For Delta 9, for for every 493 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,640 single one of these, we need to take it to the next level and 494 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,680 and we'll do it. Somebody will come to us and 495 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,000 say, hey we want to, we want to be the big isolation guys. 496 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,840 There's such a void in the market. 497 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:03,000 I I mean we probably know five guys right now that would buy 3 498 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,360 to 5000 kilos a month if the facility existed. 499 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800 We all and we were looking forward to the one in Oregon be 500 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,640 in that facility. And we bought a lot of product 501 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280 from them and some of it was great, some of it was crap 502 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,840 because the inconsistency. Of the starting quality. 503 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,320 People, right? Yeah. 504 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:24,200 Well, because they didn't automate their systems. 505 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Well, it sounds like they don't. Inconsistent and different? 506 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,360 Well, they have no standard operating procedures. 507 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,120 Well, even if that's that's in the, that's the lowest level 508 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,040 requirement and a lot of them don't have that, no, I mean just 509 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,840 like. Pharma, yeah. 510 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,600 Well, even if they do right, like Advil isn't made in a 511 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,240 continuous process, it's made in batches and that's totally fine. 512 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,760 Time. You can make super high quality 513 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,240 stuff in batches, but you need meticulous, formal level 514 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,520 controls. If you're doing that, you need 515 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,480 QA and QC. That's unparalleled. 516 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,040 And that's of course not evident. 517 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,440 We don't have that, Yeah. If you'd apply that, great. 518 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,360 Do batches. But there's other ways to do it, 519 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,080 like what the nutraceuticals do, what the people do. 520 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,680 That's totally fine. You can do it this way and not 521 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,480 be that anal about it and still be safe, still be continuous, 522 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,640 still be consistent. And that's the most important 523 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,640 thing and kind of going back to what you were saying. 524 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,610 That is why we chose HHC cuz. It's not magic. 525 00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:13,690 We saw people doing V8. We kind of looked at each other 526 00:26:13,690 --> 00:26:16,250 and said this is, you know, we bought 2 keys and one's clear, 527 00:26:16,250 --> 00:26:18,210 one's not like this is crazy. We can. 528 00:26:18,370 --> 00:26:21,050 We can fix this problem very easily between the two of us. 529 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,120 But we're engineers. We're not salespeople. 530 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,240 So we're not gonna go out and say, hey, buy our DA. 531 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,560 We'll say we'll make sure your DA is safe. 532 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,360 We'll make sure your consumers get stuff they can trust and 533 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:31,640 it'll be the same thing each time. 534 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680 Well, it's exactly what you're talking about before, cuz I mean 535 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,440 when we're thinking about the individuals there. 536 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,800 Rd. is. Hey, I made this shit in my 537 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,160 garage. What do you guys think? 538 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,360 Yeah, got me pretty high. Get you high. 539 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,560 And we're going past that. Like I haven't been high in 540 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,200 years. Yeah, that's a lie. 541 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,480 I got high a couple days ago. You lucky. 542 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,680 But thanks for having today. But but the thing was, is that 543 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,160 typically when I use cannabis, it's not to get high, it's to 544 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,200 elevate either pain relief or creativity, right? 545 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,360 Right. Those are the things that I use 546 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,200 it for. So I'm like okay, I know exactly 547 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,440 what I use my cannabis for. So I'm not getting to that point 548 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,640 where I'm so far gone. Like, I've just done a ton of 549 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,280 dab. No. 550 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:13,920 No offense. Oh. 551 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,720 None. He's big dad guy. 552 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,200 But you know, I I mean I just I. Don't get so far, guys. 553 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,160 Yeah, you don't. I mean, because you have such 554 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,240 extremely high tolerance, but it's even for me, like, you 555 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,800 know, for years of using cannabis And now, like, I mean, 556 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,360 I took one of these and I felt really good and it just 557 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:33,120 continued. It went for such a long time, I 558 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:37,520 would say around. 8 hours, yeah. Well, that's the thing I've read 559 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,600 is that HHC can last for up to 12 hours on the experience. 560 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,280 And the Well, yes, it can. The and one of the better 561 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,640 features that I really enjoy is the shelf life. 562 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,120 We can get three to five years. So HHC. 563 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,240 So on your delta. 9 Delta 9 itself is super unstable as 564 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,880 yeah, we made 90% Delta 9. We pull it out of the oven and 565 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,760 it turns purple, just oxidizes instantly. 566 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,000 But the process. That's why margarine has such a 567 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,360 great shelf life that. Geogenation process is the 568 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,680 chemical process that gives things a better shelf life. 569 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,160 And so the HHC, the gummies, everything in there. 570 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,240 It stays as HHC. It's not like about a weed where 571 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,200 if you leave it out for four years, you come back, it's all 572 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,240 CBN. Yeah, that. 573 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,600 Won't happen. Well, that's what I read is how 574 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,840 HHC naturally occurs. Is in the oxidation from THC 575 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,040 over to CBN is that you will find HHC obviously like very 576 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,080 tiny. Yeah, yeah. 577 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,000 So that's really cool then. And D nine well THC you see. 578 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,560 All the time you go into the store and it's you got some 579 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,880 beautiful colors and then you got these dark ones and then you 580 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,560 got some skinky ones and it's like, I mean it's a science 581 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,640 problem and manufacturing issue, but it's also wants to degrade, 582 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,520 right. It wants to just kind of 583 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,520 naturally. So this one's this one and and. 584 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,120 Yeah. Have you guys vaporized or like 585 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,000 done HHC as I? Have it doesn't hit quite as 586 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560 hard with vaporizing. I found it's a it's it's almost 587 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,320 gone within 30 minutes from what I've seen these experience. 588 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,680 Yeah, I was. It was really surprising. 589 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,560 Yeah. And I don't like the taste 590 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,800 personally, so we don't put any terpenes or anything in there. 591 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,120 It's just pure. I was gonna say you don't even 592 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,360 taste any of that, so we can. I mean, we've we, we've done all 593 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,960 of. These if you taste it Rod. 594 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,520 Does it have a flavor? Profile then is just the. 595 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,400 It does. I mean honestly it. 596 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,320 I would say it tastes kind of chemically in a sense, cuz I've 597 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,520 had pure delta, a pure delta 9, pure CBD. 598 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,560 I'd say it's closest to CBD CBD when I've vaped it before. 599 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680 It's almost tastes like plastic, like it doesn't taste very good 600 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,600 to me. And this is closer to that than 601 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,920 the sweet taste that you get from delta A to delta 9. 602 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,760 OK, huh. But you, you know if somebody, 603 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,480 you know if somebody wanted to add Terps, it's obviously. 604 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,310 Does. Wow. 605 00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:53,630 I might. So does it change to obviously 606 00:29:53,630 --> 00:29:58,630 when you take normal THC it changes to or 11 hydroxy. 607 00:29:59,150 --> 00:30:03,910 Does HHC change to a obviously maybe a different compound as 608 00:30:03,910 --> 00:30:06,710 well when digested versus? No actual science about around 609 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:09,870 it right now, but it does seem like it does change to just 610 00:30:09,870 --> 00:30:12,910 follow the same metabolic pathway as Delta as D9 does, but 611 00:30:12,910 --> 00:30:14,910 the rate of metabolism is different. 612 00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:18,550 It is also like a five times stronger potency when it's 613 00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:20,230 digested through your. Like. 614 00:30:20,550 --> 00:30:22,110 I mean, I I'm an engineer, right? 615 00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:23,630 So I'll never. Come out and say I know. 616 00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:28,390 Is there like guesstimated of what they're hypothesizing? 617 00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:30,590 For not enough science around HHC to know. 618 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:32,990 And that's OK, part of the problem here, because I I can 619 00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:35,230 tell you what I've seen, what our people have told us, what 620 00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:36,070 they've done. Yeah. 621 00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:38,510 In the end, it's all anecdote. Yeah, we we hate that. 622 00:30:38,510 --> 00:30:41,350 When somebody says, oh, it's great because I tried it, OK, 623 00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:42,590 where's your science? You know? 624 00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:44,390 But yeah, that's the consistency. 625 00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:46,270 Everyone's end of cannabinoid systems. 626 00:30:46,430 --> 00:30:48,950 We'll do it blind. We'll do a double-blind study. 627 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:50,750 We'll tell you exactly. See what it does? 628 00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:51,790 I mean, we would. We want to. 629 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:54,870 We want to, yeah. I mean, we love the Israelis 630 00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:58,430 because they've studied it so much and we've got a great 631 00:30:58,430 --> 00:31:00,310 friend over there that's amazing and. 632 00:31:00,770 --> 00:31:03,850 Whenever we run into a bind, we call him and say, man, what is 633 00:31:03,850 --> 00:31:09,810 going on? I love how much research they 634 00:31:09,810 --> 00:31:06,010 have on it. It's just like, I learned that 635 00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:08,250 in the 70s and I know of course he's got it. 636 00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:13,370 It's amazing it. Is it's sad that we're so far 637 00:31:13,370 --> 00:31:15,890 behind, right? Well, we are, but we're not. 638 00:31:15,890 --> 00:31:19,530 We funded a lot of it since 98. Yeah, just not stateside. 639 00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:23,290 Yeah, so it's like, so it's still we still have the data, 640 00:31:23,290 --> 00:31:26,250 we're just too dumb to read it. Like, I don't know. 641 00:31:26,670 --> 00:31:29,470 Well, I mean it's that and then you know, I mean got China over 642 00:31:29,470 --> 00:31:31,190 there with Wuhan. So we funded both of them. 643 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:33,030 OK. Well, China so. 644 00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:34,590 That's a rabbit hole. We don't. 645 00:31:37,580 --> 00:31:41,100 But but yeah, it just, it really does come down to that. 646 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,220 What is your consistency? What's your science? 647 00:31:43,220 --> 00:31:45,540 And a big part of this, you'll notice it's 10 milligrams as you 648 00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:47,260 mentioned. Yeah, you won't find another 10 649 00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:48,940 milligram HHC product on the market. 650 00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:51,180 The lowest we found is 25 milligrams. 651 00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:54,380 And that's because from what I mean, I've done a blind to test 652 00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:55,860 myself. We haven't, you know, done it 653 00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:58,620 officially or anything, but these gummies for me hit more 654 00:31:59,060 --> 00:32:01,820 more potent than the other brands. 25 milligrams. 655 00:32:02,180 --> 00:32:05,100 And from what I understand, that's just because we don't put 656 00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:08,460 any adulterants in there. It's 100% HHC. 657 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:10,580 No other cannabinoids, no terpenes, nothing. 658 00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:13,780 And a lot of these other companies, they go out and wipe 659 00:32:13,820 --> 00:32:15,700 and outsource their HHC production. 660 00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:17,300 Just bring in something, read a COA. 661 00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,220 And as you know, white label, who knows what's in there? 662 00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:21,580 It's all white labeled. Yeah, and this is we control 663 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:23,260 everything. You gotta have quality. 664 00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:24,900 You gotta have quality. Start. 665 00:32:24,940 --> 00:32:27,340 Yeah, you know, it's you gotta have a good plant. 666 00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:30,860 It's no different than the, you know, the D9. 667 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:33,340 Or a THC. You've got to have quality from 668 00:32:33,340 --> 00:32:35,620 the very beginner, You got to have a grower that knows what 669 00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:38,740 the heck he's doing and and we got to work up the chain. 670 00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:42,340 And not a lot of companies, you know, a lot of companies tell 671 00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:45,460 that they're great at it, but where's your science? 672 00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:47,300 You know, where's the people? Show us? 673 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:51,940 But the industry is just so nascent still, right? 674 00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:56,460 We've still got a long ways to go, and it's exciting in that 675 00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:58,900 realm. And the other side is it's 676 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:02,960 looking at, like, that's why when we talk to people, like, we 677 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,640 get local people around here and I've got family. 678 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,240 And they're like, hey, you want to try this? 679 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,720 Like, yeah, what is it? And they go, I don't know, I got 680 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,240 it from a friend that I'm not touching it. 681 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,160 And they're like, oh, come on. And like, dude, I I treat this 682 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,520 more bougie than I would for chocolate or food because you 683 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,280 don't know what you don't know about it. 684 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,120 And that's a big problem. And where we're talking like 685 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,160 where Brandon invested into it and I came out of CEO, you got 686 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,370 this. I mean, he's he's a country 687 00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:33,970 bumpkin potato farmer. Yeah, he's like, oh, we've been 688 00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:36,650 potato farmers. No, dude, my dad, I know how to 689 00:33:36,650 --> 00:33:38,810 grow everything. Not could do it all. 690 00:33:38,890 --> 00:33:40,850 And then he's just like, OK, and then I like well. 691 00:33:40,970 --> 00:33:43,810 But he didn't even grow it. He had a grower come in to grow 692 00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:46,130 it, yeah. And that grow did and I went to. 693 00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:49,650 One of the Hells Angels. Yeah, it well, he knew. 694 00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:51,370 We've heard this story before, right? 695 00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:54,450 Yeah, it this day, there was numbering, there was number 696 00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:56,530 consistency. Nobody knew it was going on. 697 00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:59,070 And especially when I started asking because I came from the 698 00:33:59,070 --> 00:34:01,030 supply chain logistics world at that time. 699 00:34:01,550 --> 00:34:05,030 And I was like, OK, cool, What's your cost per plant? 700 00:34:05,030 --> 00:34:07,190 How much water are you using? What's your electricity over 701 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:08,710 there? What's in the soil? 702 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:10,989 Are you testing everything? And he's like, Yep, Yep, Yep. 703 00:34:10,989 --> 00:34:12,230 I'm like, cool, can you send me that? 704 00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:15,270 I need to see that to be able to understand that so we can look 705 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:16,710 at profitability margins over here. 706 00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:18,590 And he's like, well, don't worry about it. 707 00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:21,790 We got it all under control. We'll figure it out. 708 00:34:21,989 --> 00:34:25,940 And the more I started digging, the more I understood that he 709 00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:28,500 didn't know what he was doing. It was literally like how you 710 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:31,980 would see construction guys picking up Hispanic dudes over 711 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,340 there at a Lowe's or a Home Depot at 5:00 in the morning 712 00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:35,739 saying, do you guys want work? Cool. 713 00:34:35,780 --> 00:34:37,420 Yeah, it's the same thing, what they're doing. 714 00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:38,940 There's more. Research I did, and I'm like, 715 00:34:39,219 --> 00:34:41,139 what about this? What are we doing at this? 716 00:34:41,139 --> 00:34:43,540 What's these levels tested at? Are we testing this? 717 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:46,980 What's this done just like? Well, we'll find out. 718 00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:51,130 And the guy would just be like, oh, he danced around, I'll get 719 00:34:51,130 --> 00:34:52,290 that. And I'm like, cool, no, we need 720 00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:53,570 to know this. Plants are growing. 721 00:34:53,570 --> 00:34:56,010 How are we supposed to gauge this and gauge, like, all of 722 00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:58,850 this if we can't track this, this, that like, well, it turns 723 00:34:58,890 --> 00:35:00,090 it out, yeah. To be the. 724 00:35:00,090 --> 00:35:02,290 Guys that are doing great, I mean, Oregon, Washington. 725 00:35:02,290 --> 00:35:04,490 Totally. You know, some of these grows 726 00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:07,850 are phenomenal and they do the science, but. 727 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,360 Yeah, There's just not enough regulation for these newer 728 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,200 companies coming out regulation because they're thinking that I 729 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,560 can just make quick cash. So that goes back to what you 730 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,520 were saying, the signs that say smoking unregulated THC is bad 731 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,320 for your health. I would love to smoke regulated 732 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,200 THC, but where the hell? Yeah, exactly. 733 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,760 Who the hell is making these regulations? 734 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,800 And where's your bar? Yeah, cuz stop setting it so 735 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,560 fucking low, obviously. And that is a problem for us, 736 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,480 because this one is not legal in Utah, right? 737 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,840 I noticed that. You have 11 states that have 738 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,770 said. They don't understand it. 739 00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:41,970 They don't know how to tax it because it's on the hemp side so 740 00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:44,570 well, Utah's pretty bad on the taxation side. 741 00:35:44,570 --> 00:35:46,730 There's they need to pull their head out. 742 00:35:46,810 --> 00:35:49,890 They don't understand it enough and they need to bring in other 743 00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:51,930 states that have been able to conquer that one. 744 00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:55,650 Because, I mean, it's a great way to be able to for to 745 00:35:55,650 --> 00:35:59,250 subsidize the the government, right, A great way. 746 00:35:59,250 --> 00:36:02,090 I mean, look at Colorado, amazing things that they did. 747 00:36:02,090 --> 00:36:03,410 They don't even have really great weed. 748 00:36:04,450 --> 00:36:05,570 It's fine. It's fine. 749 00:36:05,810 --> 00:36:07,210 It's okay. There's some good ones in there. 750 00:36:07,330 --> 00:36:09,690 I think Oregon's done it the best, especially with HHC. 751 00:36:09,690 --> 00:36:11,090 They've been all these cannabinoids. 752 00:36:11,090 --> 00:36:13,330 They created a whole new kind of column. 753 00:36:13,330 --> 00:36:16,490 So they have recreational and medical cannabis, they have hemp 754 00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:18,970 products, and then they have adult use cannabinoids now. 755 00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:20,570 Wow. They just did this this past 756 00:36:20,570 --> 00:36:23,210 year, and they're making a whole board for it, a whole regulating 757 00:36:23,210 --> 00:36:25,500 agency. And that way now they can tax 758 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:26,860 it. It's not a cannabis product. 759 00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:29,780 It's not a hemp product. It's an adult regulated product. 760 00:36:29,780 --> 00:36:32,460 The idea is to get it away from children, but because children 761 00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:35,300 might need CBD and that's available for some children, but 762 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:37,340 these other ones, Hemp derived, can't be. 763 00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:38,740 Right. Yeah, that makes sense. 764 00:36:38,740 --> 00:36:42,340 You could have cannabinoid profiles that are designed 765 00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:46,420 specifically for children with specific ailments or needs that 766 00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:49,700 aren't, I mean, and maybe they're, yeah, maybe there are. 767 00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:52,770 And that's what I'm hoping for. Like I've talked about with this 768 00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:56,210 with Jesse for years, as like, the future of cannabis should be 769 00:36:56,490 --> 00:36:57,530 Okay. Let's look at your 770 00:36:57,530 --> 00:37:00,250 endocannabinoid profile. You have deficiencies here, 771 00:37:00,250 --> 00:37:01,370 here, here, Okay. Cool. 772 00:37:01,650 --> 00:37:04,730 Well, these cannabinoids and terpene profiles will help with 773 00:37:04,730 --> 00:37:07,250 this. So we can build you a gummy, a 774 00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:11,530 strain, a tincture, whatever that's crafted and designed for. 775 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,680 Your ailments, Your endo. Cannabinoid. 776 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,560 Sounds like some Star Trek shit. It does, but like that's what it 777 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,760 should. Be like, yeah. 778 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,400 But I mean it's so it really is and that's, you know talking 779 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,360 about what you just said, Mark. And they're just so behind the 780 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,120 times and the only reason why is because they don't treat it 781 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,000 seriously. Honestly, the the government 782 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,200 doesn't treat it as serious as they should be. 783 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,280 And I mean we could say you know, it's big pharma trying to 784 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,140 suppress it is in some sense, but it's more on the side of 785 00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:42,500 well, the consumers aren't educated enough because if you 786 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:47,900 can, if it if a consumer is more empowered, they have the actual 787 00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:50,740 science. But it's been put into layman's 788 00:37:50,740 --> 00:37:54,780 terms and it understands towards their daytoday interaction if 789 00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:58,340 you did a double-blind study of taking an Advil as opposed to a 790 00:37:58,340 --> 00:38:02,060 cannabinoid and they took care of that pain and that problem 791 00:38:02,060 --> 00:38:07,210 like I rarely will use ibuprofen, rarely now and I 792 00:38:07,210 --> 00:38:10,010 won't take pain I haven't I haven't touched an opioid and 793 00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:13,530 and I was during that time I had shoulder surgery knee surgery 794 00:38:13,850 --> 00:38:17,010 and my doc was giving me lower tab 10s filled for 30 of them 795 00:38:17,050 --> 00:38:20,450 every Friday. Like the my the doctor's office 796 00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:24,930 saying hey you've got a a whole script and I had a shoebox full 797 00:38:24,930 --> 00:38:27,210 of them and I just couldn't. I after a little while I 798 00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:29,450 couldn't take them. Then Fast forward a bunch of 799 00:38:29,450 --> 00:38:31,810 years later I get a tooth reconstruct. 800 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:36,300 I broke off a piece of my tooth and they're like, yeah, come on 801 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:39,100 in do like you want the gas. I'm like, no thank you They're 802 00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,660 like, why not. And I'm like so I just smoked a 803 00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:44,300 joint out in the in the driveway and I'm feeling pretty good here 804 00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:47,180 and I was like let's do this And he's like you're going to feel 805 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:48,820 pain. I'm like do you understand 806 00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:49,660 cannabis? He goes, no. 807 00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:51,940 And I'm like, take it easy you. Smoke another joint. 808 00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:55,420 Like, oh, hold on, it's going to be painful. 809 00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,620 No problem, I'll just get that. But it really did. 810 00:38:57,620 --> 00:38:59,700 It took care of the pain. I didn't feel anything. 811 00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:04,320 And even after, like, I went towards a, a teacher after that 812 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,880 one, just because you know, you don't want to inhale, suck in or 813 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,520 anything like that when you have certain type of dental work but 814 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,160 still no pain. And that dentist was absolutely 815 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,440 shocked. He's like, so it took care of 816 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,880 all that. And like, yeah, I don't need to 817 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,680 take all these other things that are going to constipate me or 818 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,080 put tons of chemicals like my. Grandma, who's had the had those 819 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,120 chronic migraines. Yeah, yeah, you told me she. 820 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,580 Got onto fentanyl before. Before we got her off and I 821 00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:33,500 started making her edibles because unfortunately it was 822 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:38,020 like, yeah, you can't get anything legally here and you're 823 00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:40,300 not going to go out and I don't know what you're going to find. 824 00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:43,100 And I don't know if you're going to find a good quality or dosing 825 00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:46,220 or anything. So I dosed her for a year and a 826 00:39:46,220 --> 00:39:49,380 half, did all of it my own, because I'm like, no, I need to 827 00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:50,820 make sure that you're taken care of. 828 00:39:51,260 --> 00:39:54,820 And then finally, so she hadn't used it for maybe a year, year 829 00:39:54,820 --> 00:39:57,340 and a half, hadn't touched any cannabis because it went away. 830 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,800 And she just started getting those again. 831 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:07,120 And she just used this, that one super delicious flavor CBD, the 832 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,160 one that's. Yeah, that stuff is rough. 833 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,560 Yeah, so good. But I gave her the capsules so 834 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,600 she doesn't taste. It. 835 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,520 But she just took one of those, and one of those in a day would 836 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:21,000 make it go away. One point that we should say is 837 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,160 we don't just limit ourselves to in our company, we only make 838 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,860 HHC. We build complete systems for D9 839 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:32,460 and for T because we want to help those guys be consistent 840 00:40:32,460 --> 00:40:35,060 too, you know. So if there's companies out 841 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:38,580 there struggling on their extraction system or how to 842 00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:42,140 make, you know, get it clean and get it consistent, we'd love to 843 00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:44,940 help those guys. We don't do it for free, but we 844 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:47,740 love to help them because we want to raise the whole industry 845 00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:49,460 up, you know, to build a. Better industry? 846 00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:51,900 Yeah. If everybody gets consistent, 847 00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:54,550 then it can be. You know what you're buying. 848 00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:58,070 You know the difference between ibuprofen and Tylenol. 849 00:40:58,350 --> 00:41:02,550 You know the difference between, you know, material grown in 850 00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:04,670 Oregon and material grown in Colorado. 851 00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:06,670 And it's consistent all the time. 852 00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:09,670 We need consistency. We need automation. 853 00:41:10,110 --> 00:41:13,710 I would love to have 20 great chemical engineers with nothing 854 00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:16,070 to do because I could stick them in plants right now. 855 00:41:16,590 --> 00:41:17,550 Right? Get. 856 00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:22,730 Educated engineers in there helping the guys like you that 857 00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:24,410 learned it on your own. You know. 858 00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:27,370 You know it well enough that you sit down with us. 859 00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:30,170 We could build you an automated line that you dump it in one in 860 00:41:30,170 --> 00:41:32,450 and out the other. In comes a perfect product every 861 00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:34,170 time we. Need that. 862 00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:38,330 Across the industry we're doing it with HHC, but we need it 863 00:41:38,330 --> 00:41:41,550 across the industry, so. You know those guys that need 864 00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:42,710 help. We will help them. 865 00:41:42,830 --> 00:41:45,990 We're we're we'll put that information down below anyway we 866 00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:48,230 can be able to get in contact with you guys to be able to help 867 00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:50,150 out because we have a lot of cannabis brands that listen to 868 00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:53,390 us not just here in the States but all over the world. 869 00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:57,550 So we we know that that is something that is definitely 870 00:41:57,550 --> 00:42:00,910 needed and and more so for the consumer side because it's 871 00:42:00,910 --> 00:42:05,190 exactly once you become more educated in cannabis you start 872 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:07,270 becoming a little bit more bougie about it right. 873 00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:11,670 It's not buying the box wine on the end cap it's you know I want 874 00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:16,590 to know exactly what am I buying whose feet smash this and how 875 00:42:16,590 --> 00:42:17,790 good is this going to taste right. 876 00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:21,150 That's that's the way the cannabis needs to be seen as and 877 00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:24,270 and you know we get we get shit. I get shit from my family like, 878 00:42:24,270 --> 00:42:28,230 oh, it was a cannabis snob. Yes I am, because I want to know 879 00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:31,190 what I'm consuming. I want to know what I'm feeling 880 00:42:31,740 --> 00:42:34,380 and and that goes to full, I mean especially when we're 881 00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:37,260 talking about that where we got our audience listening, we'll 882 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,540 put down in the show notes how to be able to get this Wendy, 883 00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:43,900 Jane and what it could be for a definite just a change. 884 00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:48,260 I will say so, so far it's been how many of you had six OK 885 00:42:49,060 --> 00:42:50,820 today. Yes, OK. 886 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,500 This morning Roger that. Yeah. 887 00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:57,500 So I would say I feel really clear at it like this has been, 888 00:42:57,940 --> 00:43:00,700 do you feel your body? Yeah, but I have a lot of 889 00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:03,860 chronic pain. I still feel my body, but it is 890 00:43:03,860 --> 00:43:07,940 more relaxed and the sharpness in it isn't quite there. 891 00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:10,900 But it's still only a little bit in. 892 00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:13,220 I would wait your give it another hour and it might be a 893 00:43:13,220 --> 00:43:16,460 little bit less pain. Your tolerance is so high, 894 00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:19,820 you're probably like people with low tolerance. 895 00:43:19,860 --> 00:43:22,540 Get it in 1520 minutes. You're probably more an hour 896 00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:25,220 now. Oh yeah, 100% I felt it. 897 00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:27,060 Blown away on how long that lasts. 898 00:43:27,250 --> 00:43:28,770 You'll be amazed that you'll be going. 899 00:43:28,810 --> 00:43:32,490 Oh, my gosh, This is, you know, it's 3:00 in the afternoon. 900 00:43:32,650 --> 00:43:34,930 Wow. Yeah, well, in see, I always 901 00:43:34,930 --> 00:43:40,290 gauge for me like a product is how often I feel like I need to 902 00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:42,050 use it. How often do I feel like you 903 00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:45,370 need to go back? Like if I use a pen if I'm 904 00:43:45,370 --> 00:43:49,360 puffing on a cart. That it's every 30-40 minutes. 905 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,040 I feel like I'm taking a hit on my pad because those are candy. 906 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,320 Well, and I don't actually get into a lot of the actual stuff, 907 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,200 because it doesn't. It's not enough for that. 908 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,560 You know, I also thought about because those there are 909 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,320 instances where people have those anxiety inducing moments 910 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,760 where they took too much cannabis or they were stupid and 911 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,440 ate a whole brownie. Yeah, from their buddy that was 912 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,320 like 200, three, 100 milligrams, right? 913 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,040 Or that guy who ate a whole nerve rope. 914 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,840 Like what the fuck is wrong with? 915 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,800 But this would be a really great way. 916 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,880 Say you've gone through a decent long tea break and you want to 917 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,360 ease back into cannabis and you don't want to jump right in to 918 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,960 go and like what's the percentage on that that cart 919 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:31,200 8792? Cool, I'll smoke that and go 920 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,680 right back into panic mode. Like this is a great alternative 921 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,120 to being able to slowly get back into cannabis. 922 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:42,210 I would say this is a great almost like a I I I always use 923 00:44:42,210 --> 00:44:43,970 that term. It's almost like a prophylactic 924 00:44:44,010 --> 00:44:46,970 of being able to protect yourself while you're going back 925 00:44:46,970 --> 00:44:50,330 into it, to be able to allow your system to accept more 926 00:44:50,330 --> 00:44:54,770 cannabinoids on a very, very low level and then get back up to 927 00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:56,970 your peak. I mean if Bren never did a tee 928 00:44:56,970 --> 00:45:00,290 break. I have for like 2448 hours and 929 00:45:00,290 --> 00:45:02,450 I've done. I've done 30 days. 930 00:45:02,650 --> 00:45:05,410 And I've never run out. That's hard. 931 00:45:05,570 --> 00:45:09,010 So Wendy went to, I think you guys had Brooke on your on one 932 00:45:09,010 --> 00:45:11,090 of your Yeah. Wendy. 933 00:45:11,090 --> 00:45:14,930 Wendy went to her one of her things down in Vegas and Wendy 934 00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:18,330 never knew the marijuana nickname was Mary Jane. 935 00:45:18,930 --> 00:45:22,450 And so we just started laughing our butts off and then we're 936 00:45:22,450 --> 00:45:25,170 like, well, let's try Wendy Jane, a little better 937 00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:29,650 alternative for these people that just you know, or to the IT 938 00:45:29,970 --> 00:45:32,890 HAC is amazing at helping you come off. 939 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,840 And take a break. It kind of is on the other side 940 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,440 of what you're saying rather than when you're going back into 941 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,680 it. From what I've seen, one of my 942 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,560 good friends from college, you know, we just dab all the time. 943 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,680 He was always kind of just floating around and then he kind 944 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,560 of hit, caught, hit the real world, and you got to stop doing 945 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,000 that. Basically, I have a job, he's a 946 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,000 girlfriend, getting a wife soon, and now he kind of is weaning 947 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,160 off. But there's all those withdrawal 948 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,040 symptoms where you have, yeah, crazy nights of sleep, you get 949 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,360 you're not hungry anymore, you get you're sleeping at odd 950 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,640 hours. It's all all these terrible 951 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,630 things. These gummies help a lot with 952 00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:05,230 that kind of stuff, because you still get. 953 00:46:05,230 --> 00:46:07,630 The very. Kind of kind of intake, but 954 00:46:07,630 --> 00:46:08,990 you're not getting the high and you? 955 00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:10,950 Can live your life stress and everything else. 956 00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:16,230 So obviously with like THC in that and really small doses it 957 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:18,110 can help with anxiety and stuff like that. 958 00:46:18,510 --> 00:46:21,590 Is this something that you have seen even anecdotally that 959 00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:24,670 people get anxiety and higher doses at all? 960 00:46:26,110 --> 00:46:27,950 I haven't. I haven't seen it, We haven't. 961 00:46:28,110 --> 00:46:31,390 We haven't had that as feedback. And we've had people like that 962 00:46:31,390 --> 00:46:34,030 Lady at the show. She took one or two and didn't 963 00:46:34,030 --> 00:46:35,270 know it, so she ate the whole bag. 964 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:35,590 Yeah. Yeah. 965 00:46:36,830 --> 00:46:39,270 It still wasn't extreme. Classic had one. 966 00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:41,150 Didn't feel it this anymore, yeah. 967 00:46:41,790 --> 00:46:44,990 Dosing's a big deal to us and we want to see better dosing 968 00:46:45,310 --> 00:46:46,990 across. Yeah, we we talked about that a 969 00:46:46,990 --> 00:46:48,390 whole time. Dose it get it? 970 00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:49,790 That's. The other thing is it's. 971 00:46:50,090 --> 00:46:53,290 It's incredibly hard to find a dose because everyone's 972 00:46:53,290 --> 00:46:55,770 tolerance is different, like, I feel like. 973 00:46:56,250 --> 00:47:00,610 There needs to be a better starting dose for most products 974 00:47:00,610 --> 00:47:03,770 because I feel like that 10 milligrams is not a good 975 00:47:03,770 --> 00:47:04,850 starting. Yeah, we're thinking about 976 00:47:04,850 --> 00:47:08,170 making a. 5 milligram come in. This might be, but as far as 977 00:47:08,170 --> 00:47:11,210 like THC where people get anxious and that and you're 978 00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:14,450 like, OK, so they've never taken a cannabinoid. 979 00:47:14,890 --> 00:47:17,210 And 10 milligrams is your starting dose, yeah. 980 00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:19,450 But there is no. Gives them a bad experience. 981 00:47:19,730 --> 00:47:22,050 And then they're like, oh, this is terrible. 982 00:47:22,050 --> 00:47:23,890 This is a scary drug I don't want. 983 00:47:23,890 --> 00:47:26,210 You're like, it's dosing. You're not going to take the 984 00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:29,050 whole bottle of Advil. It's the same thing like. 985 00:47:29,690 --> 00:47:32,490 I think that this could because those that markets very niche, 986 00:47:32,530 --> 00:47:33,770 right. Most of the people that go to 987 00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:36,130 dispensaries have been smoking and now it's finally legal. 988 00:47:36,130 --> 00:47:37,450 So they're going to continue smoking. 989 00:47:37,530 --> 00:47:38,530 Yeah. It's not people that are 990 00:47:38,530 --> 00:47:40,930 starting to consider getting into it, trying to find some 991 00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:43,110 info and details. And most of those people, the 992 00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:45,590 only reason they would do it is if their buddy hands them a pen. 993 00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:52,030 Yeah, now they're afraid to cuz it's overwhelming and you have 994 00:47:52,030 --> 00:47:46,590 no idea. They're not going to go to the 995 00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:48,590 dispensary for the first time they ever want to try. 996 00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:57,430 Yeah, and this is our target market in reality is the soccer 997 00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:59,990 mom, right? The one that just got five kids 998 00:47:59,990 --> 00:48:02,910 running around going crazy and just needs to take a little edge 999 00:48:02,910 --> 00:48:06,350 off, you know, needs to be able to go shopping without going 1000 00:48:06,350 --> 00:48:09,780 crazy. You know, or or running around. 1001 00:48:09,780 --> 00:48:15,060 It's it's it's it is an amazing. He has made an amazing product 1002 00:48:15,060 --> 00:48:17,940 in and of itself. Not to brag about it, but no 1003 00:48:17,980 --> 00:48:18,740 brag. It is. 1004 00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:21,340 That's cool. To your heart, yeah, you 1005 00:48:21,340 --> 00:48:23,100 definitely should. Because if you're going to be 1006 00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:26,380 able to put into this on the very scientific level, to have a 1007 00:48:26,380 --> 00:48:28,620 consistency on, it absolutely should be bragged about. 1008 00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:33,660 Because the in a world where we are all consuming, unregulated 1009 00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:36,890 and very inconsistent because we've we've tried so many 1010 00:48:36,890 --> 00:48:40,370 different types of carts and flour and it's always just all 1011 00:48:40,370 --> 00:48:44,530 over the board and so the legality side where is this not 1012 00:48:44,530 --> 00:48:49,490 legal? So state by state, some states 1013 00:48:49,490 --> 00:48:52,290 are regulating D8. Very few states are regulating 1014 00:48:52,290 --> 00:48:54,610 HHC because it's not very big out there. 1015 00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:57,690 But the way that they're regulating D8 is by creating a 1016 00:48:57,690 --> 00:49:01,090 classification of regulations. Basically, they're either 1017 00:49:01,090 --> 00:49:03,850 lumping it with cannabis or they're saying it's not a hemp 1018 00:49:03,850 --> 00:49:05,850 product, it's not a cannabis product, you can't do it. 1019 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:07,880 And that's what they're saying for Delta 8. 1020 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,840 But because HHC is kind of in the same category, the 1021 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,440 assumption is HHC falls under that too and. 1022 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,280 So but isn't as an assumption right now? 1023 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,640 Or is it actually like it's? Not written in law. 1024 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,800 OK, so good the. Federal law is that it's 1025 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,080 compliant. It's product that of 2018 Farm 1026 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,000 Bill very clearly states. And cannabis sativa less than 1027 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,280 0.3% THC is considered very clearly awesome, So. 1028 00:49:30,660 --> 00:49:34,380 And we're still not allowed to sell into like 1011 states I 1029 00:49:34,380 --> 00:49:36,420 think I saw. So those states have regulated 1030 00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:39,620 the D8 side of it. Utah is actually one of the only 1031 00:49:39,620 --> 00:49:42,300 ones that if you go on the cannabis board at List State 1032 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:44,300 Station, it's. Says it out there, but. 1033 00:49:44,420 --> 00:49:46,900 Most of them are basically just saying these synthetic or semi 1034 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:48,580 synthetic cannabinoids are a no go. 1035 00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:51,100 Maybe we could put down the show notes like all the states that 1036 00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,900 we know that those are already legal in right now. 1037 00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:55,820 It's on their site. I'll just pull it and we'll 1038 00:49:55,820 --> 00:49:58,020 throw it on the show. If you order it from that state, 1039 00:49:58,020 --> 00:50:00,220 it's gonna say sorry, we can't ship the OK. 1040 00:50:00,860 --> 00:50:03,220 And it is really tough for the consumer because you can Google 1041 00:50:03,220 --> 00:50:05,740 is HHC legal in my state and you'll get different answers 1042 00:50:05,740 --> 00:50:08,020 from different websites. Well, and there's other brands 1043 00:50:08,020 --> 00:50:09,820 out there. There's one brand particular and 1044 00:50:09,820 --> 00:50:12,100 I don't think I'll drop their names, like literally can't 1045 00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:15,180 remember it right now. But they advertise a ton on 1046 00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:17,940 there. And the way that I, I don't like 1047 00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:20,460 about it is the way they talk about gummies. 1048 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:21,940 I don't know the name, but I know who you're talking. 1049 00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:24,540 You know I'm talking about and and they'll say, oh, is smoking 1050 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,860 weed too harsh on you? Well, then eat these edibles. 1051 00:50:27,460 --> 00:50:32,510 And people who don't understand edibles really need to be able 1052 00:50:32,510 --> 00:50:34,350 to do their, their research on that one. 1053 00:50:34,350 --> 00:50:37,750 Because yeah, smoking. Yeah, exactly. 1054 00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:40,470 And for a very long time. And that's and if you don't know 1055 00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:43,680 how to counteract that, that's a horrible ride for somebody who 1056 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,080 is not understanding. Which we're finding 90% of 1057 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,360 cannabis users don't know how to counterbalance their high. 1058 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,360 Yeah, they're like, oh, you just have to buckle up and you're in 1059 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,280 for the ride. And it's like, have you ever 1060 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,640 heard of, like, CBD? Yeah. 1061 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,400 Have you ever heard of, like cooking lemon juice or trying 1062 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,720 peppercorns or anything else we try to make? 1063 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,720 Can bring down your high you. Sit in the couch in their head, 1064 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,560 shaking, Yeah. And I'm like, why? 1065 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,360 Why experience that? You can change that experience 1066 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,840 and make it better. Educate. 1067 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,800 Right. We got to educate it is and and 1068 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,960 and bring them in a lot slower, you know, with something little 1069 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,520 mellower because we're D8 or just go slow, you know, take it 1070 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,320 easy, you know well and that's what I really like about what 1071 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,920 you guys have created. But more than that, I really 1072 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,440 like what you guys are doing on the regulation side of being 1073 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,280 able to not necessarily like, look, we're in a world where 1074 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,000 there's no regulations pretty much. 1075 00:51:37,380 --> 00:51:39,300 So what? What's the best way to be able 1076 00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:41,420 to beat that? Have higher standards, have 1077 00:51:41,420 --> 00:51:43,980 higher standards of productivity, 100 standard, 1078 00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:48,340 higher standards of of product and not productivity of of being 1079 00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:50,420 able to create a better product, right. 1080 00:51:50,860 --> 00:51:55,340 Across the board, Yeah, exactly. And and when it does go legal 1081 00:51:55,340 --> 00:51:58,340 nationwide, it'll be better products across the board. 1082 00:51:58,460 --> 00:52:00,460 Yeah. And so, you know, these guys 1083 00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:03,380 that want to build facilities or want to get in the industry, 1084 00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:06,420 hopefully they'll build to a better standard because it's. 1085 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,400 The technologies here, we can do it. 1086 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,200 We can do it right now. You know, we could go in any 1087 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,680 building in the city and build you a end to end automated line 1088 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,640 to make whichever product you want, but you got to build it at 1089 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,880 that high standard. You don't have to spend $100 1090 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,480 million like half of these guys do because you're going to go 1091 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,360 out of business. You're you're going to lose your 1092 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,400 shirt, you know, spend $5,000,000 on somebody that 1093 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,640 knows what they're doing. And if not us, somebody else, 1094 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,800 there are great engineers out there that know how to build 1095 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,400 these systems. It's just we all kind of got 1096 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,320 trapped into, oh, it's cannabis, so it's got to be expensive or 1097 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,920 it's, you know, a German made machine. 1098 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,200 So it's worth four times the amount of money, no? 1099 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,680 Like, it's not BMW, it's just, yeah, you know. 1100 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,480 Yeah. Yeah, that kind of ties back 1101 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,760 into the CBD plan that Mark mentioned we're trying to make. 1102 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,440 It's it really just comes down to that quality control because 1103 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,120 you, I mean Cocacola for example, they go to the sugar 1104 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,560 farms and they train their farmers on how to how to make 1105 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,560 their product. They're not paying them, they're 1106 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,000 there. It's their own cost that they 1107 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,760 know that quality goes into their product and it's very 1108 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,920 important. We actually don't want to build 1109 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,440 the facility for ourselves. We will if nobody else does. 1110 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,720 We want someone to step up and build a facility. 1111 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,120 The amazing thing is the pricing too. 1112 00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:25,450 Like CBD. You know what was it $8000? 1113 00:53:25,450 --> 00:53:31,090 And now it went to one $75175 and back and forth and you go 1114 00:53:31,090 --> 00:53:35,570 build $150.00, A $150 million plan you will never break even 1115 00:53:35,570 --> 00:53:37,010 at $200.00. A key the. 1116 00:53:37,050 --> 00:53:39,130 Business thought it worked when it was $10,000 a key. 1117 00:53:39,330 --> 00:53:42,690 But guess what? If you use the same equipment 1118 00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:46,810 from other industries and you build an automated system, you 1119 00:53:46,810 --> 00:53:50,290 can make a very healthy profit margin at $200. 1120 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,240 Very healthy, a very successful business and have consistent 1121 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:57,120 product all the way through and the grows are the same way. 1122 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,400 That hydroponic facility in Arizona was amazing and the cost 1123 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,880 was 1/5 of what these guys are building it for because you 1124 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,440 know, they go buy grow lights from. 1125 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,480 Yeah, it's ridiculous. And you're like you can get 1126 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,790 these same. Like basically almost the exact 1127 00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:17,950 same lumens and the same quality. $0.20 on the. 1128 00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:20,190 Yeah. And you're like, why pay that? 1129 00:54:20,350 --> 00:54:22,390 Yeah. Why are you spending 510 times 1130 00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:25,030 as much to start your business when it's not needed, right? 1131 00:54:25,490 --> 00:54:27,890 And then that hurts. Yeah, the rest of the your. 1132 00:54:27,970 --> 00:54:29,810 Overhead, your margins, everything. 1133 00:54:29,810 --> 00:54:31,810 And everyone else is like, oh shit, well, we gotta be in the 1134 00:54:31,810 --> 00:54:33,770 same market. And the biggest part there that 1135 00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:36,210 we've seen and it's really why the industry is the stated is 1136 00:54:36,210 --> 00:54:39,130 now all this low quality crappy D8, all this kind of stuff is 1137 00:54:39,130 --> 00:54:41,890 because you don't have money leftover after that to maintain 1138 00:54:41,890 --> 00:54:42,970 quality. So you. 1139 00:54:43,690 --> 00:54:45,450 Shuttle all the. Money there and the consumer 1140 00:54:45,450 --> 00:54:47,970 gets shunted away. They good luck to them well and 1141 00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:50,130 that's why we have such inconsistency of brands. 1142 00:54:50,130 --> 00:54:52,330 I mean that's that's what companies want when you bring up 1143 00:54:52,330 --> 00:54:54,500 Cocacola. Like, you know, I was thinking 1144 00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,940 about McDonald's. McDonald's actually put so much 1145 00:54:56,940 --> 00:55:00,260 into the only buy Russet potatoes from Idaho. 1146 00:55:00,620 --> 00:55:02,860 And they have to be a certain length and if they have any 1147 00:55:02,860 --> 00:55:05,620 blemishes, they're completely just jettison, even though 1148 00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:09,060 they're good potatoes, like no high quality, high standard. 1149 00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:11,340 There has to be a consistency, which is hilarious. 1150 00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:14,380 The McDonald's is going to have such a high quality and high 1151 00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:19,400 standard for a consistency of a French fry that is cooked to 1152 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,000 perfection for you. And sold less than a dollar. 1153 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,800 Yeah, but it's the same French fry here as it is in India as it 1154 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,640 is in Antarctica. It doesn't matter which is. 1155 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,920 CBD Because I. Will say my French fries for 1156 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,720 McDonald's and London tasted like cabbage. 1157 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:34,720 Hmm, what? Well, it is. 1158 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,120 It could have been what you smoked before you went in. 1159 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,280 I didn't. Smoke, anything. 1160 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,920 I was at an age that I didn't partake of anything, so it was 1161 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,080 that. It was that impact, but it goes 1162 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,240 back to the to the cannabis industry. 1163 00:55:48,130 --> 00:55:51,450 If you have that same type of consistency for your products, 1164 00:55:51,730 --> 00:55:55,210 you will have that same consistency of consumers they're 1165 00:55:55,210 --> 00:55:58,210 going to keep coming back to. Now you're being able to lower 1166 00:55:58,490 --> 00:56:03,010 your cost per unit over time by being able to have the right 1167 00:56:03,010 --> 00:56:06,290 systems in place like you guys are able to help provide. 1168 00:56:06,610 --> 00:56:10,490 Then also giving them the right guidance on products that they 1169 00:56:10,490 --> 00:56:12,330 can buy. Just it doesn't have to be name 1170 00:56:12,330 --> 00:56:15,370 brand, it can be the brands that are actually going to last the 1171 00:56:15,370 --> 00:56:17,770 best based upon what you guys have experienced. 1172 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:21,100 There's just a consistency. You're going to build a longterm 1173 00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:22,900 market. When we look at it, what how 1174 00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:25,700 many billion dollars are they estimating the cannabis industry 1175 00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:28,780 by 2030? No, CBD is 29 1/2 I think and 1176 00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:30,740 that's. Just CBD, just CBD. 1177 00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:35,100 Imagine that right now I'm calling out to those 1178 00:56:35,420 --> 00:56:38,340 manufacturers of any type of cannabis brand. 1179 00:56:38,620 --> 00:56:41,860 What if you had that same consistency for your products? 1180 00:56:42,180 --> 00:56:44,100 What if you were able to develop that one? 1181 00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:45,380 What are you going to do for that? 1182 00:56:45,380 --> 00:56:48,130 Because for me, like this is one of my favorite ones. 1183 00:56:48,130 --> 00:56:50,690 It was a long time ago and I was talking to my wife and she says, 1184 00:56:50,690 --> 00:56:55,010 you know, Advil is better than the Kirkland brand of ibuprofen. 1185 00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:57,290 And I was like, no, that this exact same thing. 1186 00:56:57,290 --> 00:57:00,690 She goes, no, I swear by it. And so that goes back to it. 1187 00:57:00,690 --> 00:57:02,530 You know, I'm, I'm a marketing individual. 1188 00:57:02,530 --> 00:57:05,130 I'm always thinking about that. What is going to convince the 1189 00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:07,770 consumer? Well, the consumer convinces the 1190 00:57:07,770 --> 00:57:09,970 consumer. So if they believe it's the best 1191 00:57:09,970 --> 00:57:11,770 product, it will always be the best product. 1192 00:57:11,890 --> 00:57:15,770 We have cart brands that we absolutely love and we're like, 1193 00:57:16,130 --> 00:57:18,650 never ever do. They give us an inconsistent 1194 00:57:18,650 --> 00:57:19,690 feel. Awesome. 1195 00:57:19,690 --> 00:57:20,490 I will. I will. 1196 00:57:20,530 --> 00:57:22,650 If anything else, I will buy that car. 1197 00:57:22,890 --> 00:57:25,970 Is it more expensive? That's fine, because I know what 1198 00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:29,370 I'm going to get from that. I wish that that was the exact 1199 00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:31,970 same way. And you know, if if you're 1200 00:57:31,970 --> 00:57:35,450 listening to this or you're watching this, you need to go 1201 00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:38,250 check out Wendy Jane. We'll have the link down there 1202 00:57:38,250 --> 00:57:43,110 below and you guys need to go, not just check this out, buy it. 1203 00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:45,910 Help out with those images. They're amazing. 1204 00:57:46,070 --> 00:57:48,670 Honestly, I think it's worth checking out. 1205 00:57:48,670 --> 00:57:51,270 If you wanna function or you're stay at home mom, stay at home 1206 00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:54,270 dad, whatever. These things would be great. 1207 00:57:54,430 --> 00:57:56,670 They're dope. Or even if you're at work this 1208 00:57:56,670 --> 00:58:00,870 is so clear headed and just relax takes that edge off. 1209 00:58:01,610 --> 00:58:02,770 You could still get everything done. 1210 00:58:02,890 --> 00:58:05,290 I think the only negative part was when I was playing a video 1211 00:58:05,290 --> 00:58:06,970 game, I just didn't want to play it anymore. 1212 00:58:08,290 --> 00:58:10,250 I was like, dude, I'm just, so I'm just going to go do 1213 00:58:10,250 --> 00:58:11,530 something else. Makes you lazy. 1214 00:58:14,050 --> 00:58:17,610 Yeah, Or you got to do a little better at the video game, you 1215 00:58:17,610 --> 00:58:20,930 know, It was just, I was, I just felt really happy on it. 1216 00:58:20,930 --> 00:58:23,170 Like my wife's like, hey, you want to go shopping? 1217 00:58:23,570 --> 00:58:25,330 I mean, I know it sounds stupid. It's like, no, it sounds like a 1218 00:58:25,330 --> 00:58:26,370 great date. Let's go. 1219 00:58:27,010 --> 00:58:28,890 She's like, you're OK. And I'm like, yeah, I eat one of 1220 00:58:28,890 --> 00:58:30,360 these. She goes, do you see half? 1221 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,040 And I'm like, no, I just popped the whole thing. 1222 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,600 And she goes, oh, you know, you're a little sensitive to 1223 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,400 that as a. Man, that wants to go shopping. 1224 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,680 That is a whole new level of food shopping. 1225 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,520 That is like, the best, it's the best recommendation we've ever 1226 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,400 got. Yeah, because my wife, she knows 1227 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,000 I don't like going. But I hate shopping. 1228 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,600 I absolutely hate. But I was just like, yeah, she's 1229 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,640 like, what do you think about this? 1230 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,800 I'm like, we haven't tried that before. 1231 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,280 Let's try that out. Let's try that out. 1232 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,070 She goes, I like you on this. So like, Oh yeah, it's it's just 1233 00:58:58,070 --> 00:59:00,710 a really consistent and I and I've done it twice and I felt 1234 00:59:00,710 --> 00:59:03,670 great on it both times. And if I wanted the ride to be 1235 00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:07,110 over, I just took a large dose of CBD, high quality CBD, and I 1236 00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:10,950 within about 10-15 minutes I felt a little less and I was 1237 00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:13,230 like, ah, cool, but it didn't go away completely. 1238 00:59:13,230 --> 00:59:16,550 It's just less relaxed, No, just for me. 1239 00:59:16,550 --> 00:59:20,390 What happened is, is that it it started to get more and more and 1240 00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:22,630 I was like literally too relaxed. 1241 00:59:23,110 --> 00:59:25,590 And for me, I don't like being too relaxed. 1242 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:30,350 I'm an edgy guy and I'm always constantly like, I need that 1243 00:59:30,350 --> 00:59:32,670 edge. But if I'm at home, if I'm 1244 00:59:32,670 --> 00:59:35,470 chilling, this is great on a movie, especially if you don't 1245 00:59:35,470 --> 00:59:37,430 want to watch a movie with the family because you're just like, 1246 00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:39,790 I don't want to do that. Hey, go eat one of these and 1247 00:59:39,790 --> 00:59:41,390 you're gonna feel great, because it did. 1248 00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:46,390 A lot of people say that sleeping like Wendy the That was 1249 00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:49,550 my wife, my wife. Wendy takes one every night, and 1250 00:59:49,550 --> 00:59:52,070 she slips. I can turn on the TV and turn on 1251 00:59:52,070 --> 00:59:53,830 the radio. I can play video game. 1252 00:59:53,830 --> 00:59:55,670 She. Out all night long. 1253 00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:59,230 She loves it. And you know we we never make 1254 00:59:59,230 --> 01:00:01,910 claims like take it for sleep or anything like that. 1255 01:00:01,910 --> 01:00:04,630 We say give it a try see what it does for you. 1256 01:00:05,350 --> 01:00:08,670 Take a small dose, take it a little more, take you know, ease 1257 01:00:08,670 --> 01:00:11,230 yourself into this thing and. Give it I started two different 1258 01:00:11,230 --> 01:00:14,990 times of 20 milligrams before I jump to 60, so yeah. 1259 01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:17,710 Well, and and the great thing, what we learned today, if you 1260 01:00:17,710 --> 01:00:20,390 are going on a tea break, this is a great product to be able to 1261 01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:21,870 try out. Yeah, that's. 1262 01:00:22,030 --> 01:00:25,540 If you want to get off alcohol. For opioids, that's true. 1263 01:00:25,580 --> 01:00:29,740 It's a great way to do it. And you know. 1264 01:00:30,020 --> 01:00:31,460 Yeah, I helped the family with that. 1265 01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:34,740 Much cleaner. So if you're trying to quit, you 1266 01:00:34,740 --> 01:00:36,700 know, maybe check out some of these. 1267 01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:38,180 There's too many changes. Something lighter? 1268 01:00:38,180 --> 01:00:40,500 I wouldn't quite say it's weed light because that's D8, right? 1269 01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:41,780 You guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, from that. 1270 01:00:42,140 --> 01:00:43,100 No, there's something a bit more. 1271 01:00:43,660 --> 01:00:45,340 Just mellow, Yeah. Mellow is good. 1272 01:00:45,340 --> 01:00:48,060 It's very mellow. It's it's not, it's not too 1273 01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:49,700 intense. It doesn't get to that point 1274 01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:52,420 where it's too intense. Yeah, if you ate the whole bag. 1275 01:00:52,420 --> 01:00:54,740 I mean one. You hit yourself with a hammer 1276 01:00:55,340 --> 01:00:57,940 because you're an idiot. Yeah, like, I don't understand 1277 01:00:57,940 --> 01:01:00,420 people doing that because the loser, what? 1278 01:01:00,540 --> 01:01:01,740 I would have eaten the whole bag. 1279 01:01:01,820 --> 01:01:04,740 I you can eat the whole bag. But I'm saying, you know, it's 1280 01:01:04,740 --> 01:01:07,900 it's just typical with with new. I just didn't know how the. 1281 01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:11,260 Canada, the bigger me 25 milligram once and then you can 1282 01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:13,580 take the whole bag. If I had known what the 1283 01:01:13,580 --> 01:01:17,140 experience was like and that I would have taken all 100 1284 01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:20,700 milligrams, but because I'm not familiar with the compound, your 1285 01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:23,920 products or anything, I might yeah, I'm gonna start with 20 1286 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:24,880 and see how it feels. That's the. 1287 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,360 Best way to do it? I mean, that's kind of what we 1288 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,400 tell people too. If you're a brand new user, take 1289 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,600 half a gummy chancellor. You won't feel it, but that's 1290 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:31,760 fine. Just do it again tomorrow. 1291 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,600 Exactly. It's like, it's so much better 1292 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,120 for you to not feel it than it is for you to go, man, I was it 1293 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,920 was way too much, right? And then you're like, OK, well, 1294 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,480 I didn't feel that. So now I can take a little bit 1295 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,440 more next time. And that goes back to what you 1296 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,720 mentioned earlier, where a lot of people think edibles is the 1297 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,160 best way to start. Really, it's vaping or dabbing 1298 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,440 or something Because you can maybe not dabbing, but you can 1299 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,320 control the dosage. You can have .1 gram, like .1 1300 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,320 micrograms at a time. Yeah, it's very, it's much more 1301 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,160 maintainable, I would say. And you can kind of wait. 1302 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,240 And the experience comes down faster than it does with 1303 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,920 edibles. So you know you're not in it for 1304 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,460 3 to 8 hours, you're in it for 30 minutes to 2 hours. 1305 01:02:12,460 --> 01:02:13,740 Depends. But your grandma's scared of 1306 01:02:13,740 --> 01:02:14,900 that, right? Your grandma? 1307 01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:16,820 No. Or my dad is scared of death, of 1308 01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:18,180 smoking, right? She won't. 1309 01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:20,940 Yeah, my grandma won't smoke. So I'm from Utah. 1310 01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:24,580 We're like fifth generation religious people from here. 1311 01:02:24,940 --> 01:02:27,220 And so of course it's very taboo. 1312 01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:29,700 My parents, they won't ever smoke. 1313 01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:33,020 They won't do any of that. But I now have gotten both my 1314 01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:38,420 mom, my dad, my grandma to take cannabinoids in edibles or 1315 01:02:38,420 --> 01:02:41,690 tinctures or something like that for pain. 1316 01:02:41,890 --> 01:02:44,850 Chronic pain's been the only thing that's been their thing 1317 01:02:44,850 --> 01:02:47,930 for that because they don't take medicine for anything. 1318 01:02:48,010 --> 01:02:50,250 It sucks to get old too. Yeah, yeah. 1319 01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:53,490 Yeah, it does get. Those pains and a little bit of 1320 01:02:53,490 --> 01:02:55,930 relief. Well, you don't want to admit it 1321 01:02:55,930 --> 01:02:58,130 either, but once you look in the mirror and you're like, that's a 1322 01:02:58,130 --> 01:03:04,010 lot of Gray shit. Yeah, but I agree. 1323 01:03:04,090 --> 01:03:09,610 I always tell people, especially within the the the common faith 1324 01:03:09,610 --> 01:03:12,780 in here in Utah. I mean, I'm, I'm involved in 1325 01:03:12,780 --> 01:03:14,740 that one. And I actually get more people 1326 01:03:14,740 --> 01:03:16,060 converted over there. They're like, oh, I'm going to 1327 01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:17,220 try edible. I'm like, no, you're not. 1328 01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:19,500 No, you're not. You're going to go buy a half 1329 01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:22,260 cram cart and you're going to meet up with me and we'll go 1330 01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:26,220 through this and you're going to get over this, feel that you're 1331 01:03:26,220 --> 01:03:29,220 doing something wrong because it doesn't say Marlboro on the end 1332 01:03:29,220 --> 01:03:31,500 of that. And so, you know, I was a former 1333 01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:33,940 smoker for years, especially in the military. 1334 01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:36,090 Military goes hand in hand. Right. 1335 01:03:36,090 --> 01:03:38,730 Is this like, especially during, you know, different times? 1336 01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:40,970 You served in the military during the 80s and I served it 1337 01:03:40,970 --> 01:03:44,370 in the late 90s. It's it was so common. 1338 01:03:44,370 --> 01:03:46,210 I don't know what it's like now. It's probably just all vape 1339 01:03:46,210 --> 01:03:48,690 pens, yeah? And I wish we would have had 1340 01:03:48,690 --> 01:03:53,410 these because I was in school and they we, I mean packs and 1341 01:03:53,410 --> 01:03:55,170 packs a day. If you got them, smoke them. 1342 01:03:55,570 --> 01:03:58,290 And they passed a law. I think Clinton passed the law 1343 01:03:58,290 --> 01:04:01,530 that they eliminated it in training and they came down the 1344 01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:03,050 barracks and dragging trash cans. 1345 01:04:03,050 --> 01:04:05,330 Everybody had to throw their cartons of cigarettes in. 1346 01:04:05,740 --> 01:04:07,660 Holy cow. That was a rough two weeks 1347 01:04:08,260 --> 01:04:11,180 because you got 100 guys that all of a sudden stop smoking. 1348 01:04:11,420 --> 01:04:14,580 It would have been great to have anything in there to give him 1349 01:04:14,620 --> 01:04:16,180 some really. It would have probably done me 1350 01:04:16,180 --> 01:04:17,660 better. I remember after boot camp, I 1351 01:04:17,660 --> 01:04:18,860 mean, you couldn't have any smokes. 1352 01:04:18,860 --> 01:04:22,060 And then all of a sudden we get over there to a school over 1353 01:04:22,060 --> 01:04:24,700 there in Great Lakes, Michigan, or Great Mistakes Michigan, if 1354 01:04:24,700 --> 01:04:25,980 you guys know what I'm talking about. 1355 01:04:26,460 --> 01:04:31,980 And I got a pack and the first hit, I was like spinning and 1356 01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:34,380 felt sick. And I'm like I should stop doing 1357 01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:36,060 this. And the other guy goes don't be 1358 01:04:36,060 --> 01:04:40,340 a pussy, get another 1. So it's like it's so weird. 1359 01:04:40,340 --> 01:04:43,460 But it it's because of those negative connotations from 1360 01:04:43,460 --> 01:04:47,660 smoking cigarettes for so long that people are like, I'm, I'm 1361 01:04:47,660 --> 01:04:49,700 very adverse to it that that that's bad. 1362 01:04:50,260 --> 01:04:52,900 Nancy Reagan's in their head don't use it. 1363 01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:56,260 They just say no but it's it's so much better. 1364 01:04:56,740 --> 01:05:00,580 But again, using something like this, extremely mild. 1365 01:05:01,030 --> 01:05:03,710 Helps you to feel that one and it's just a great gate, but 1366 01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:07,430 there's just so many different ways to look at any type of 1367 01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:08,990 cannabis product, especially this. 1368 01:05:09,350 --> 01:05:12,190 Keep it into your your like little pharmacy cabinet that you 1369 01:05:12,190 --> 01:05:14,310 have. Like I have my bag where I know 1370 01:05:14,310 --> 01:05:16,510 everything is for. That's for headaches, that's for 1371 01:05:16,510 --> 01:05:20,550 nausea, that's, that's for energy, that's for sleep, right. 1372 01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:23,590 So it's for a little bit of fun. Yeah, exactly right. 1373 01:05:23,590 --> 01:05:27,310 This is for me to chill out. This is right there at the 1374 01:05:27,310 --> 01:05:30,030 bottom of it. By going look, I I've got stuff 1375 01:05:30,030 --> 01:05:33,230 to do today. But I've got pain or I'm just 1376 01:05:33,230 --> 01:05:37,030 not feeling amazing right now. I need a little bit of an edge 1377 01:05:37,030 --> 01:05:38,350 off. This would be a fantastic 1378 01:05:38,350 --> 01:05:41,190 program for that, yeah. Yeah, recommend it. 1379 01:05:41,310 --> 01:05:43,710 And if your guys need help on the other side, we're we're 1380 01:05:43,710 --> 01:05:46,150 always available to help. We we love helping people. 1381 01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:48,950 We talk to anybody. I mean, it's it's an education 1382 01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:50,790 game. That's all this this whole thing 1383 01:05:50,790 --> 01:05:53,150 we're doing is because these things have always been around, 1384 01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:55,750 but nobody knows what they are. And now we got to tell people 1385 01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:57,310 they're available, they're safe, they're. 1386 01:05:57,700 --> 01:06:00,340 There something you can use to deal with the issues that you're 1387 01:06:00,340 --> 01:06:03,100 having every single day and you didn't even know it was there? 1388 01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:05,820 Yeah, you just have to trust that what it is is safe. 1389 01:06:06,140 --> 01:06:08,300 And I'm not saying trust anyone. You gotta find someone. 1390 01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:11,460 Trustworthy and then go forward. And keep doing building the 1391 01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:15,060 science so we have that data so we can't reach your dream of. 1392 01:06:15,870 --> 01:06:20,030 I think that would be amazing. But it's you know it's sky 1393 01:06:20,030 --> 01:06:21,070 dreams. That's where I. 1394 01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:22,430 Want it to get? That's pretty cool, though. 1395 01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:25,190 You step into a booth and they go OK, and you come out of it 1396 01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:27,230 and they've got a cart and a gummy made for you. 1397 01:06:27,350 --> 01:06:29,230 Guess the booth and you walk out nice and toasted. 1398 01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:33,590 I could like that. I'll be down with that. 1399 01:06:33,790 --> 01:06:36,150 It would. Be so cool. 1400 01:06:36,430 --> 01:06:38,390 OK, well so check out the show notes. 1401 01:06:39,230 --> 01:06:41,350 You want to be able to get in touch with these guys to be able 1402 01:06:41,350 --> 01:06:43,750 to help out your facility. Fantastic. 1403 01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:45,950 Go over there, check them out. Well worth it. 1404 01:06:46,070 --> 01:06:48,870 Second part, check out the edibles. 1405 01:06:49,150 --> 01:06:50,830 Yeah, we'll have the link over there. 1406 01:06:50,830 --> 01:06:52,910 Go there, buy them, check them out. 1407 01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:55,350 Especially for those family members who are just a little 1408 01:06:55,350 --> 01:06:57,990 bit more skittish about trying it, but they're like, hey, you 1409 01:06:58,070 --> 01:06:59,310 seem like you're having a good time. 1410 01:06:59,350 --> 01:07:01,990 Actually, if you're super anxious, this is probably the 1411 01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:03,870 best thing for you. Yeah, I would check it out 1412 01:07:03,870 --> 01:07:06,310 because you don't get the anxiety that can't come from an 1413 01:07:06,310 --> 01:07:08,990 edible. This is like none in your head, 1414 01:07:09,070 --> 01:07:10,990 so you're very clear you don't have. 1415 01:07:11,110 --> 01:07:13,310 I can kind of tell like you can feel a little bit. 1416 01:07:13,310 --> 01:07:18,430 I also puffed on He had that D8D9 pen and that one puff. 1417 01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:21,190 I mean, it's not a puff, it's. Oh yeah, You had it in the 1418 01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:22,230 Zenko. Yeah, definitely. 1419 01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:24,830 But that, like, I can already fill the difference. 1420 01:07:24,830 --> 01:07:26,350 And it was like, oh man, that's really. 1421 01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:29,910 Well, the combination so clean. Consistent products. 1422 01:07:30,350 --> 01:07:33,350 Make great products. Yeah, because I am. 1423 01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:36,750 I've been a hard no on Delta 8 since. 1424 01:07:37,420 --> 01:07:39,420 Nope. Since we tried the last and 1425 01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:42,900 because the last ones, we went to the last cannabis event here 1426 01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:44,700 in Utah. Yeah, to a year and a half ago, 1427 01:07:44,780 --> 01:07:46,940 something like that. And there was a bunch of 1428 01:07:46,940 --> 01:07:48,980 companies giving samples and stuff. 1429 01:07:49,660 --> 01:07:52,780 Tried a bunch of them. And I'm like, yeah, no, I don't 1430 01:07:52,780 --> 01:07:55,420 like this at all. This is a horrible experience. 1431 01:07:55,580 --> 01:07:57,540 I don't think I would recommend this to someone. 1432 01:07:57,780 --> 01:07:59,340 Just filled in. And then all all these other 1433 01:07:59,340 --> 01:08:01,540 people like, oh, I love it. I'm like, that might be your 1434 01:08:01,540 --> 01:08:03,060 jam. It is not mine. 1435 01:08:04,180 --> 01:08:05,190 Yeah. All right. 1436 01:08:05,350 --> 01:08:08,870 Needs to be clean and consistent no matter what it is, right? 1437 01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:10,670 Clean and consistent. All right. 1438 01:08:10,670 --> 01:08:14,110 When you guys heard it here, check it out and we'll see you 1439 01:08:14,110 --> 01:08:15,590 guys next week. Awesome.