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Welcome to cannabis school. 
I'm your host Jessie Angeles and

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I'm Brandon Elder and we're here
to talk to you about everything 

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pertaining to cannabis from 
bait, flower Edibles, strains 

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and everything in between. 
Welcome back, everybody, thanks 

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for joining us this week. 
We're actually going to be 

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meeting with Frank and Alex from
Moxie and we're just going to 

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jump right in. 
I've heard good things about 

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logic. 
Yeah, I just haven't used it 

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pretty much at Full Sail, like, 
everyone just went to school, 

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there to learn how to make 
dubstep. 

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That was pretty metal everyone 
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If it was 100 people in class, 
there was a hundred people where

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I'm like Beats by Dre. 
Making dubstep beats in that 

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cloud. 
That party was ten years before 

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that. 
It was all wrap. 

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Everybody wanted to be a replica
2003. 

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Yeah, putting myself. 
Yeah. 

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So, do you do you still have 
some of your Beats? 

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Then, yeah, just make music now.
Like produce fire. 

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Yeah, well thanks, nice. 
Iced. 

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I like used to rap. 
I did it for 15 years. 

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I was trying to actually 
seriously make it and I just 

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wasn't making money. 
I wasn't happy started working 

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for Moxie and I made a decision 
to focus on that, right? 

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Instead of performing on stage 
every night making 50 bucks. 

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So let's go into that, you know.
So so if you kind of left 

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steered me in a different 
direction, so what will one of 

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those opportunities were just 
kind of presented yourself and 

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you're like, hey, they're hiring
and I'm going to get into there,

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or you had interest. 
No, so, I knew the people that 

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were running Moxie but they 
lived in another state. 

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Eight and I was in Vegas. 
So just kind of like my divine 

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intervention. 
I met somebody that worked at 

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the Moxie Vegas location, he 
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I was like yeah you know, 
started packaging labeling, $12 

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an hour, learn from the ground 
up, moved his extraction, 

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distillation marketing and then 
sells the journey? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Started off as a rapper and now 

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you're like us. 
Be cool. 

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Now, I'm selling started from 
the bottom. 

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Now we're here, I'm just doing 
it because I was also a rapper 

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at Full Sail. 
Wait, wait works. 

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I have a, what were your wrapper
names, Go? 

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I mean, you can still find me 
Anglo-Saxon angle of sack 

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Anglo-Saxon. 
Yeah, it's a play on words. 

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You can pull it up right now. 
All right. 

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Well, not, you know, that's all 
that, but yeah. 

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You know, it is what it is. 
No no I mean I mean I'm just 

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going to put it over there in my
playlist. 

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I mean I'm not going to play 
right now. 

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We'll probably have to put a 
sample in there and show notes. 

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Oh yeah. 
Well throw down some sure. 

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I mean, only if you down with 
anyone if it brings into that 

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will see ya, I'll say I'll text 
you over, you know. 

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The website. 
Yeah, there we go. 

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Yeah, throw that in there and I 
was in a group. 

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I'm gonna I'm going to refrain 
from saying the name of this 

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group that good. 
Huh? 

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That, well, I'm not afraid of 
the music. 

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It's just, I was in it. 
It's like, you know, when 

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you're, you have like a 
friendship and it's like, then 

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that friendship separates. 
So it's like that group was like

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me and a friend who I'm no 
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So by choice, you know? 
Yeah. 

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And so it's like, Yeah. 
No, look up that if you want to 

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look up some music, I did check 
out Recon because when I was 

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even younger before College, I 
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straight edge hardcore band that
and we toured all around the 

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u.s. all around Europe Canada. 
So that was fun for real. 

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That's awesome. 
So I went from being a lead 

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singer of a straight edge band. 
Every night just preaching the 

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good word of don't do drugs, 
don't smoke, don't you know, all

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this stuff and then a few 
cannabis cups, later this is 

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known for something else, you 
know, he was there. 

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Holy cow. 
I saw you were you had like your

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first tour that you did around 
the u.s. when back in? 

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Was it before 2014? 
Yeah, for sure? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Because in 14. 
I would have been in California 

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and so when I was in Recon, that
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Maybe and that's when, you know,
I was 20 years old in a van 

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touring around the country. 
Just screaming at people for 30 

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minutes a night. 
Does that feel like a whole 

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nother lifetime ago? 
Absolutely. 

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Absolutely. 
So I'm totally here so you 

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straight edge and I'm very 
familiar straight edge. 

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Yeah. 
I mean pretty intense people? 

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Yeah. 
But What was that? 

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What brought you over to to the 
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breaking Edge right, big deal. 
Like I had a but I have a bunch 

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of straight edge tattoos, you 
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weird but I when you're like 
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that's the age when I kind of 
made this decision. 

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It's like everyone, you know, is
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people are doing. 
So it's being straight edge. 

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Socially is like Terrible 
decision because you essentially

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are going. 
I want no friends. 

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I'd like to have none. 
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And the ones that I'd like to 
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I'll be the DD wish terrible, 
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Like you're always that guy and 
it's like No And so you know, I 

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was almost 22 and I was like, I 
was like this just isn't seeming

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like a good decision for social 
life and all this stuff and so I

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was like screw it. 
Like I'm gonna start drinking so

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I started going out, drinking at
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I'm drunk one night. 
Someone pulls out a bowl and 

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they're like passing it around. 
And it was like the one thing 

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that I was like, really nervous 
about it was like drinking is no

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big deal, everybody drinks. 
But the weed thing I do know and

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then trying lead for the first 
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Didn't really get it. 
You know, I was like, oh, 

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whatever. 
I didn't even know if I felt 

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anything and then the first time
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trying weed. 
Later, I smoked out of a bong 

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and then we went for a drive. 
And I was just out and Main 

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driving on these roads. 
Next to these Farms, with these 

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cows, laughing my ass off. 
And I was like, I get it, 

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finally, I get it. 
And then from then on, it was 

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like, it was right before my 
21st, or 22nd birthday, and I 

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was like, for my birthday. 
I'm going to buy a big old bag 

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of weed. 
This shit's awesome. 

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You know, like so from then on 
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That was it. 
So then you started to I mean I 

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can imagine the evolution of 
your personality. 

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Over that period of time. 
Because yeah it's like when I 

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when I was another podcast we're
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before. 
Cannabis is typically one of a 

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lot of anger. 
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A lot of just trying to make 
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you're not. 
You're not a punk. 

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Yeah, you know you got something
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the East Coast, right? 
Frank can relate. 

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Oh, for sure, being up in New 
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going to, you know, being in the
hardcore scene, like, I went to 

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a lot of shows in Massachusetts.
Boston and stuff like that. 

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And then, the band I was in was 
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So that's a very rough place as 
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And yeah, going from that to 
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Now, the personality change was 
huge, huge like, people who knew

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that version of me who see me 
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Now are like, dude, you're like 
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totally different and even just 
from like because then you go to

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La and all that Fades away. 
And you turn an asshole again, 

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believe isn't enough to buffer. 
What l.a. does to people, right?

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So that's where shrooms comes. 
Yeah, that's where she was 

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coming for. 
Sure, for sure. 

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Because we just isn't enough 
anymore. 

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But yeah, I mean it's the 
personality changes canvas 

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alone. 
I mean it was, it was huge. 

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Yeah. 
It's a similar story for you. 

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Frank, what do you mean like I 
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cannabis? 
Oh yeah for real when you start,

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how Probably 14. 
What got you into cannabis and 

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14, just being shared a blunt or
do we? 

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I don't know. 
I just I remember that far back.

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We're getting like, it was 10 
bucks and then I remember like I

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couldn't control it. 
I don't know how to smoke is. 

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So the guy actually rolled it 
for me, you know. 

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Pause, cool, right? 
He was a couple years older than

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me. 
Yea, same block. 

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So I was like alright, cool, so 
and then I got one of my 

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friends. 
No, We snuck into this, this 

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like this kids baseball field 
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went to a Dugout right on 
defense were like we're gonna 

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smoke this shit. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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We're smoking in red clay pitch 
black, right and both of us, 

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Like nothing, you know, and then
all of a sudden I look at him 

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and I'm like, hey, can you feel 
your legs like know? 

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So then you know, we freaked out
after that. 

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Right course. 
And I think I went to my house 

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later that night, I was so 
stoned, and my mother looked at 

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me and jokingly. 
She's like, did you smoke a lot 

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of weed tonight? 
Yeah, I'm super high. 

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I'm going upstairs. 
God, my mom. 

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So chill. 
You know, I tell her that's what

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this day. 
I remember that day. 

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She's like, no, no, like, little
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As I remember, she was probably 
high to, I know, right? 

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It's funny for you though. 
That is a moment. 

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You never going to forget in 
your life never and nobody else 

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will. 
I know that honey is it she's 

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giving me the out, right? 
Yeah, but she just joking 

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around. 
She's joking, right? 

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That's hilarious. 
Right. 

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What are the odds that sauce is 
so from, then on your You just 

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seem like just consuming because
it just. 

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Yeah. 
What is it had to? 

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Well, I mean, at first, it's 
like a skate but what else? 

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Yeah, I was just experimenting, 
right? 

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Yeah, like and then what you got
to understand? 

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I went to high school in South 
Carolina, the weed options and 

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like 99 it was like pretty 
minimal brick weeds seeds and 

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sticks and not you know. 
No, I got some of that once. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Can the day? 
Yeah, it's big headache. 

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It wasn't till Florida. 
For the college where I started 

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seeing like different types of 
strains like you know, kind bud 

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or creating, you know they used 
to call it that right. 

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What will be stirs, bro, these 
days yesterday in the Northeast 

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dude, if you had the good weed 
as be stirs route, every time. 

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Funny? 
Yeah we've all come like small 

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yeas and one way or another it 
going. 

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Yeah. 
Hmm. 

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What's that? 
I mean yeah, picking up notes of

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Seth's that cherries were made. 
So funny now because we're so 

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spoiled, we really are. 
I mean I love this world. 

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It covid-19 ask though, because 
going to a dispensary, you go to

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all these ones before where you 
could smell it and yes and then 

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covid hit and you're like six 
feet behind the counter and 

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they're like well wafted it, you
will tell you what it smells 

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like because they're like a 
little fan but this one's. 

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Yeah, that would have been a 
better idea. 

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I literally would go to shopping
Denver. 

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And they would hold the jar open
and then with like a piece of 

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paper that was laminated, they 
would like waft towards you. 

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It's like this isn't there? 
I don't know. 

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He's okay. 
It was a scary time covid in 

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Vegas in the Cannabis industry. 
Real mm. 

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Yeah, so what I used to do for 
Moxie's kind of like Marketing 

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sales where I would just do 
pop-ups, right? 

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Yeah, let's go to place to place
every day and just do that. 

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But I remember when they shut 
down, literally a dispensary 

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like shut down while I was 
working removed. 

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All the customers bills like a 
major freakout moment. 

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It was lines of people at every 
dispensary trying to get weed. 

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When nobody knew? 
Yeah, it was I was stocking up. 

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I mean, I was buying shit that I
would never. 

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I thought it was considered one 
of the essentials that was, uh, 

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yeah. 
Okay, yes. 

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Steamed afterwards though 
afterwards, right? 

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So then place is open back up 
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a bit of those, like, a good, 
like two, three days where I was

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like, oh, I'm not gonna smoke 
weed for a while. 

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Like I was getting worried, you 
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Really Gonna my worrying about 
like a little cranky but it's 

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still nice to have 100%. 
So Man, where else would we be 

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able to find Moxie? 
What states are Moxie in 

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California? 
That's where it all started. 

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West Coast West Coast right? 
I mean California here 

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obviously. 
Pennsylvania and Missouri really

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weirdly in Missouri. 
Yeah cool. 

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So that's that's pretty fresh 
yeah. 

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Just like here freshest to be 
okay. 

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Cool. 
He has been about two years in, 

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Missouri them. 
No years, not like two months. 

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Oh shoot. 
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, bring it

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so knowing where we're at and 
the different. 

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Contrast what's been the? 
Let's start with the Positive. 

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What's been the positive of 
being in Utah with a cannabis 

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company leading the way 
instantly? 

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Because there were no like when 
I moved here in February, I was 

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told. 
So I asked, what do you have for

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concentrates on the shelf right 
now and they go? 

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Well, we have XYZ things and I 
was like well no, no like dho 

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and they're like oh nothing And 
it's like, that's what I heard 

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everywhere. 
And I was like, wait, this is no

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one and Utah. 
Smoke boil like no one's making 

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BHO and all these people have 
licenses to do it and just note 

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that no one's chosen to do it. 
Let's go. 

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So, the second we got here and 
put products on the Shelf, it 

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was like, I guarantee you people
that have had a card that hadn't

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used it and we're just driving 
across the border to buy oil. 

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I have for the first time in who
knows how long renewed their med

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card and Utah to By jove here 
and it's like now you're seeing 

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a little bit more BHO. 
But it's, I mean, if you go on 

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the Shelf, like we were saying 
before we started recording like

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even a lot like we're white 
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So a lot of the stuff that's not
in a Moxie box is still made it.

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Our lab says right on the box 
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that's bad ass, you know, even 
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you know what? 
You have to understand, Alex, 

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right? 
He's one of the co-founders and 

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he He he's like, the originator 
of cannabis oil, funny story, my

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first dab was something that he 
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him right across state lines. 
And that's how I fell in love 

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with cannabis even more some 
concentrates. 

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Yeah, so when did you first 
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So I started making console. 
It was funny story, like I was 

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growing, so are one of the 
founders, fill his company 

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before Moxie was called HGH, and
it was him as other dude. 

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I was working for them growing. 
In this other dude, Terry who's 

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one of the other Moxie Founders 
was doing the extracts and also 

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handle the bunch of the grow 
houses like away from LA area. 

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And so one day me and him were 
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He's doing the extraction, I was
handling some gross stuff and he

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was just like, man, this sucks 
and I was like what and he was 

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like, I don't want to do 
extract, he's like I just want 

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to grow, he's like I hate all 
this stuff and I was like Teach 

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me how to do it. 
Like, I've never had tea will 

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trade growing for me. 
I'm like you prefer. 

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Yeah, traction, put me in the 
lab, dude. 

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You know what I mean? 
It seems like way more my speed 

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of things. 
And so, he essentially just over

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the couple weeks, couple months,
like taught me everything, he 

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knew, and we were still doing 
extraction and like, we had the 

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pot, the vacuum pot, you know, 
we didn't have across 

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International vacuum ovens or 
anything like that. 

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And then everything was open 
blasting in a garage. 

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You know it's like it was 
sketchy and so we move from that

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to where we have this facility 
and our CEO Jordan just buys a 

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used Precision px1 brings it to 
the lab one day and he's like 

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set it up dope and I'm like okay
and like we go to Vegas and we 

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visit some someone else had 
bought a px 1 and they were 

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setting it up and they were 
getting taught how to use it and

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I like watched from a distance 
and then went back to LA. 

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Two together started doing 
closed-loop extraction. 

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And that's, that's when 
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Like, as soon as we started 
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like it went from being top 10, 
it all the Cannabis cups to 

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being top three every time. 
Like, every time we answered 

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something, it was going to be on
the podium for sure. 

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Yeah, I saw you were taking 
first place or really top back 

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since 2014. 
Yeah. 

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Before that. 
Yeah. 

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I think 14 was maybe the first 
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Like I think we got third. 
Place with lemon cookies which 

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is just I mean that oil was so 
greasy. 

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It was so delicious. 
How you wanna first place at the

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first ever hit man, chalice? 
Yeah California. 

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Yeah, that was an interesting 
night. 

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It just being like, yeah, this 
is great. 

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I think I know where I am. 
Like, was it a person who was 

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hand presenting the award or was
it that point? 

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Well, massive. 
So, some other type of creature.

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Well, no, it was a person, but 
imagine chalice like it was a 

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music festival. 
So we get on stage and it's like

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thousands of people can imagine 
what the light. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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That's just like, and so I just 
have the sunglasses on with this

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big grin. 
Like, all right, you know, But 

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that was an interesting night, 
man. 

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It's great being able to win 
those things, but it's about 

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more people using your product. 
Yes. 

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And loving your problem. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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That's his focus is to give like
a safe and renewable cannabis 

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Source. 
Yo, what have you guys found? 

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That creates such a safe product
for moxie? 

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Well, I can just say one word, 
terpenes go into that, I'm here,

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Jim. 
Just that's, we are known for 

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tariffs and testing and showing 
what's in there. 

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And that's, you know, like you 
were saying earlier before, like

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you would totally against 
smoking anything that doesn't 

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have reliable test results and 
stuff like that like on the same

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way. 
And like when we got here to 

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like we noticed almost no one's 
testing for what terpenes are in

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the products of the right. 
And it's like that's so 

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ridiculous because Like in 
California, you going to a shop 

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and I guarantee you they're 
going to have Gorilla Glue, 

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they're going to have blue 
dream. 

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They're going to have all these 
things. 

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That doesn't mean it's those 
things. 

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That just means they called some
weed that stuff. 

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And if they're not testing the 
terpenes and you can't see 

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what's in there. 
They can go ahead and do that. 

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They can call it whatever. 
And, and like, we were saying 

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box, he likes to call you, we 
use a lot of crazy names. 

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We're not using these like, you 
know, strains that have been 

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around for forever. 
Like because one know, Once that

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stuff anyway and two it's more 
fun to just make something like 

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just like a fun brand like a 
brand looks nice and it looks 

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like something you want to be a 
part of. 

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So constrain names and the way 
that the way that, you know, it 

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is what you want and it is going
to do the things you want is 

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with that terpene test because 
you know, okay. 

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It's got x amount of Mercy, an x
amount of this x amount of that.

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Those are exactly the things I'm
looking for not, hey, I'm 

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looking for Gorilla Glue. 
Yeah. 

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Like, that doesn't do anything. 
Because from called hard, To 

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cultivar, that's going to be 
different total, you know, even 

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from location to location. 
Totally. 

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So, from sea to Sea. 
Yeah, well, everyone out here is

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growing Autos so it's like we'll
get a whole Harvest of the same 

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strain and every batch terpene 
test is wildly different. 

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Yeah completely it's really. 
I'm seeing serves I've never 

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seen before. 
Yeah. 

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In this state interesting. 
Yeah. 

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What are the some of the 
terpenes that you found coming? 

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And you tell one of them like 
the big one is signing so we're 

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getting sighs I mean right as a 
terp to in hide amount decent 

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amounts, right? 
So I'm like what is I mean? 

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Right? 
That's testing for it. 

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So I started researching it 
right and I find out has all 

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these good properties, you know?
I mean just like another 

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turquoise, right? 
But this one is specific. 

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For what was about cancer. 
Yeah, it was like like brain 

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cancer specific like Auntie 
brain tumor type of her. 

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It was is very weird at all 
these really weird. 

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I'm sure he's looking it up 
right now and yeah, haha smoke 

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quite a lot in the last hour so 
I can't remember everything. 

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There's so much information that
you consume that. 

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Sometimes it's just hard to 
recall it instantaneously 

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because this is exactly what 
that is. 

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Especially, we're looking to see
These test results all day every

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day. 
Oh yeah. 

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But that, that really does 
separate. 

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I mean we've, you know, brand 
and I have had our fair share of

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legal and black market cards. 
Sure. 

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And the funny thing is that, you
know, some of the black market 

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carts, we've had have been so 
consistent. 

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Yeah, flavor Terps. 
Well, they're made by people who

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smoke cannabis, right? 
But then you'll get another, 

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you'll get another one. 
Where they all taste the same 

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and you're like hmm. 
Yeah Seasons just plant plant 

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derived Harps from whatever yep 
not necessarily directly from 

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that plant and that for me it's 
just like you. 

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Yeah sure you're going to get 
maybe a little light-headed. 

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Maybe you're going to feel a 
little energized but the 

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consistency and just like you 
saying like having your own name

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she's just saying look I we 
don't we can't necessarily Call 

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It Whatever you write because it
doesn't have the same 

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properties. 
Like One of my favorite strains 

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you know Pineapple Express and I
will have it somewhere and I'll 

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feel like amazing sativa and the
next time it's more hybrid into 

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cleaning dominant and I'm like 
yeah whoa this is totally 

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different because that's a super
popular name for people to just 

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throw on right. 
Whatever you know what I mean. 

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Oh wow Blue Dream biggest 
culprit on that right this guy 

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loves blue green. 
Oh I do too dude I think I've 

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posted to memes in my life. 
Both of them were Eating on Blue

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Dream, I hate blue, Jerry, Lee, 
blue dream and green crack. 

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If those trains for some reason 
just disappeared disappeared 

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from existence we'd be in a just
a way better world. 

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That's some strong words. 
Why they're just terrible. 

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Like you could be Like what's 
the lowest recorded IQ ever? 

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Because you could be one of the 
Jenners, isn't it? 

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You could be that guy here. 
I think maybe probably you could

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be that guy. 
You could have the lowest 

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recorded IQ in human history and
grow three pounds of light, 

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green crack and blue dream. 
He's 0 for 200, but nobody in 

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recorded history is found that. 
So then give me the answer of 

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what's actually been found. 
I bet it's probably a six, some 

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dues Lori's overlooked 75%, this
has Picture of some of Caitlyn 

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Jenner. 
My cat just did this film tell 

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he's walking around with his 
mouth, open smoking, Blue Dream.

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Just going yeah this is awesome.
That's hilarious. 

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This is pretty terrible, I don't
know either but I'm telling you 

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it's just those things. 
It's like really like basic 

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beginner stuff where it's like, 
I gave that that number six, 

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some form cookies and said grow 
this he'd never he could. 

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Could possibly he'd be getting 
like a quarter pound of light, 

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you know. 
And it's like there's just 

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levels to certain strains and 
like your ability to like 

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control them and grow them 
properly. 

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So you're still getting crazy 
yields whereas like just you 

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could not try and get 3 pounds 
of light off those strains. 

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So people get like have this 
crazy idea that they're great 

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girl or something. 
So it's one of the like highest 

448
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:08,200
yielding ones out there. 
Yeah. 

449
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,400
That's why people grow it too. 
Because then it's like, okay, I 

450
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,100
know I'm going to get my money's
worth out of this girl where Get

451
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:16,400
form, cookies and go even if I 
do a perfect job, maybe I get a 

452
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,100
pound and a half for light like 
I don't want that because they 

453
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,700
want to get the numbers. 
But the thing is some of that 

454
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:24,300
pound and a half of that. 
Could be really dangerous. 

455
00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:25,200
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

456
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,000
Some of the top shelf stuff, 
this has amazing terpene 

457
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,300
profiles, that's what kind of 
Moxie's is really known for its 

458
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:33,700
small batches. 
Yep. 

459
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,100
That's what really makes us and 
will bite. 

460
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,900
The bullet will grow some Tangi.
That's only going to yield 

461
00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:42,000
garbage on the flower side. 
Garbage on the oil side and will

462
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,800
still grow it. 
Because it's fire. 

463
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,900
Yo usee Angie is fire that, 
don't love Tangi. 

464
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:50,500
Yeah, shut up. 
You had a lot of challenges if I

465
00:25:50,508 --> 00:25:52,200
don't say shout out the enemy 
gets super. 

466
00:25:52,200 --> 00:26:01,200
Oh he's a few errands. 
Going from flower we talking 

467
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,200
about your guys is extraction 
process and that the amount of 

468
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,500
attention that you give to it. 
Yeah. 

469
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,800
Why do you feel that? 
Why do you feel that? 

470
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,700
It's not being. 
Given the proper attention to by

471
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:19,400
other two, other extractions. 
I mean, it could be a million 

472
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600
different things. 
If I just had to like randomly, 

473
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,000
go on a rant and guess, right 
now, I would say that like, I 

474
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,900
just come from a generation that
pays more attention to the small

475
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:32,000
things and especially like I 
come from East Coast. 

476
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,700
Like I'm not from California and
like a lot of the people I saw 

477
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:38,200
doing stuff they were just 
interested in it for the 

478
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,700
lifestyle and not really like 
they were making good stuff. 

479
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,400
They knew what they were doing 
but it was really about the 

480
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,300
lifestyle of like I'm an 
extractor in California and 

481
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:52,600
that's why they were doing it. 
Whereas for me like I knew being

482
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,400
in Moxie we were going to enter 
cups and if we were going to do 

483
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,200
that I wanted to win. 
So I was like what is the 

484
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,500
fourth? 
Like, because we were getting 

485
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:02,300
the same flowers. 
Everybody else, we're getting 

486
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:04,100
Crockett stuff. 
We're getting the strawberry 

487
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:07,800
banana, the lemon skunk and so 
was Nature's lab. 

488
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,100
So was everybody else in 
California? 

489
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,300
And so it was like, Because 
there was a lot of times we'd 

490
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,500
enter and didn't win and so it 
was just figuring out like okay,

491
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:19,700
what are the variables? 
What are the tiny little 

492
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,300
adjustments? 
I have to make to be better than

493
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:26,000
them with the same shit and then
once I figured that out like how

494
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,400
to make all these small tiny 
little adjustments and it was 

495
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,300
everything from like watching, 
like cooking shows and like 

496
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:35,700
seeing how they control the 
temperature of like I would like

497
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:40,300
an egg yolk is cooking and I'd 
like okay I can use that like I 

498
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:42,700
can take that back and bring it 
to the lab and I can make this 

499
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Batter batter, you know what I 
mean? 

500
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,200
And so it's just like, it's 
doing stuff like that over and 

501
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,900
over and over again. 
And then you go from like top 

502
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:52,700
10, top 5 and then it's like, 
okay, I'm finally like going 

503
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:55,600
home with metals and cups, you 
know, that's awesome. 

504
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,700
Yeah. 
But it's like are in that like 

505
00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:00,700
fine-tuning. 
Yeah, you know, and then it's 

506
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:04,900
that Pursuit for that dumb 
little cup that translates into 

507
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:10,100
like okay, now all our patients 
have the most fire stuff because

508
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,700
I want on this wild pursuit to 
make sure I won. 

509
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:16,900
This friggin Gold Cup. 
So what's your next Wild Pursuit

510
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:21,900
for Moxie? 
I mean being here at my in Utah 

511
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,300
for me, it's perfect. 
So I want to make sure that we 

512
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:28,600
are name brand. 
Like when people like you know 

513
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,700
how like people say Q-tips but 
that's a brand that's not what 

514
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:34,500
that thing is, right? 
That's what I want people to 

515
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:38,400
refer to oil as I want you know 
the Moxie stuff and they don't 

516
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,700
even mean the brand they just 
mean yeah this is how ya like 

517
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,300
Some trade. 
That's the goal. 

518
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:46,100
Yeah. 
That's fucking cool. 

519
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,700
I'll Google it's a term. 
Yeah, I'm gonna go batty. 

520
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:51,500
Rocks, anoxia. 
Alright. 

521
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:52,400
That's what it's gonna look 
like. 

522
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,100
I've literally want people to 
walk into a shop. 

523
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,700
Be like, I want one of these 
Moxie's and they've just talking

524
00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:01,100
about oil, you know, it's funny.
The that used to happen in Vegas

525
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,100
all of the time when they would 
be a general thing, you know, 

526
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,900
like you say Kleenex. 
Yeah. 

527
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Yeah. 
I was just thinking Kleenex, 

528
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,200
right. 
Yeah. 

529
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,900
It just goes in and that's 
awesome to hear that because Any

530
00:29:12,908 --> 00:29:15,400
of the brands are just like I 
just want to sell as much as I 

531
00:29:15,408 --> 00:29:16,600
don't give a shit with the name 
is. 

532
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,400
I don't care what the Yeah that 
doesn't matter and it's so does 

533
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,300
matter to the consumer, you 
know? 

534
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:24,900
I mean like one of the cool 
things and for all those 

535
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:28,100
listening and we were fortunate 
to be able to protect of these 

536
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:33,100
amazing carts, cool design by 
the way that's fresh with these 

537
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,000
people. 
So we know they consume they're 

538
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,300
like actually artificially 
people and man, I got to tell 

539
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,600
you, I mean, just going into you
know. 

540
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,300
People talk about the batteries 
in the cards that aren't really 

541
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:48,500
important, but there's only a 
few Brands out there that I go. 

542
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:51,800
Oh yeah, you there's an 
experience with it. 

543
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,000
Yes, like that. 
That just so nice. 

544
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:56,300
Yeah, I mean, but the the duck? 
No. 

545
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:58,800
But, I mean, just thinking about
the design everything like that.

546
00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:02,300
This wasn't done on just 
whatever's available. 

547
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,500
Yeah, so I mean with this the 
dart this thing is sick. 

548
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,800
It's literally like the Cadillac
of batteries and yeah, I know 

549
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,200
these aren't out yet, aren't 
they? 

550
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,900
No, no. 
There used to be. 

551
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:17,200
Yes. 
I mean in Cali. 

552
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,500
Yes. 
In cap. 

553
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:20,500
So they're available in Kauai 
yet believe so. 

554
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:22,600
Yeah honey. 
When you toss to put a picture 

555
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,000
up there on the I don't show no 
but I'm thinking you guys know. 

556
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Is it months? 
How weeks out if this month this

557
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,300
month, you're releasing the 
darpa's this month. 

558
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:36,100
And the best thing about it is 
is any Utah patients listening. 

559
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,700
The battery is going to be free,
we're not going to charge 

560
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:40,000
anybody for the battery. 
Yeah. 

561
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
We literally have enough for 
every single patient and state. 

562
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,800
So if we can hook every single 
patient of just got to go buy a 

563
00:30:46,808 --> 00:30:49,800
van which is you buy a pod. 
Yeah, battery there have 

564
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,900
Grandpa's. 
That's you know yeah so a price 

565
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:56,000
points will be a little cheaper 
because it's less you know but 

566
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,100
we have four different flavors 
initially launching so also the 

567
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,800
ones that we've tried tonight. 
Have been. 

568
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Oh amazing. 
But the cool part is is just 

569
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,900
there's a lot of care and love 
that goes into designing 

570
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:13,300
something such as this and then 
being bold enough to Say, like, 

571
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,700
look just by the Pod, get the 
battery. 

572
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,600
Yeah, I don't know. 
I mean, I don't know any more 

573
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,500
about batteries out of time. 
Yeah, same. 

574
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,900
I agree to try. 
Nobody wants another battery. 

575
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:28,300
Yeah, so many but you guys, 
maybe not don't realize what you

576
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:30,200
thought isn't realize. 
There's not that many compared 

577
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,200
to the no. 
There isn't. 

578
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,700
Right. 
There's only how many pots 

579
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:37,000
systems are here in Utah, or 
probably. 

580
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,300
Yeah many. 
But, regardless, it's still 

581
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:42,600
another proprietary thing that 
you gotta buy and you got to 

582
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:45,900
Subscribe to but no one's giving
it to you except Moxie. 

583
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
That's what the weight in it. 

584
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,200
I mean, I've tried other ones, 
I'm not a fan. 

585
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,200
I mean I am. 
It was okay. 

586
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,800
I had stood Izzy and and this is
a review show so it doesn't 

587
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,200
really matter. 
They can get pissed. 

588
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,500
They like but there's no weight 
to it. 

589
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:02,000
Yeah. 
And I found myself. 

590
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Receding it all the time and I 
did it wouldn't. 

591
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,100
Yeah, it wouldn't work and but 
this is like a good weight to 

592
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,300
it. 
This is something that you're 

593
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:14,100
just going to Drop on the 
ground. 

594
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:15,700
Yeah. 
And be like oh that's cool. 

595
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:17,300
Let's get another one. 
Like this. 

596
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:20,500
Is some exactly like oh man. 
Don't ruin my Moxie. 

597
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,700
Yeah, right. 
Yeah, I like it. 

598
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:25,400
I love it because don't teach 
her to say that he are above 

599
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,800
oxy. 
If This falls and over there I'm

600
00:32:28,808 --> 00:32:33,400
going to be upset yo because I 
can't I can't I can't enjoy this

601
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,000
with anything else. 
Yeah so that it gives so much 

602
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,700
exclusivity to that to that 
customer going. 

603
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:43,400
Yeah. 
I mean I I'm in the hole in it 

604
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,000
right now, my hand out. 
Just like, I just like it there.

605
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,800
It's just like, it's a fidget 
spinner, it's everything there. 

606
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,400
But it's just like, I know 
exactly what this gives me is 

607
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,600
the experience. 
It's not. 

608
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,100
Yeah, I'm just going to get 
high. 

609
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,100
Yep, you know, I want an 
experience and being able to 

610
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,000
look at the design, the features
of that one. 

611
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,900
The boldness of being able to 
give that said a lot about the 

612
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:05,200
brand and they're really about 
the consumer and that's just 

613
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,000
V10. 
I know. 

614
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,400
I get this kind of so Frank, you
seem like you puff all day. 

615
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,100
Like I do have you figured out 
How long the battery on this 

616
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:17,000
last year? 
That battery can last a good 

617
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,900
three, four days. 
Yeah, to be honest, I still go 

618
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:22,400
through the Pod before the 
battery dies for no shit. 

619
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,000
Yeah, yeah I'm impressed because
that never happened Jimmy. 

620
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,400
Yeah, I will 100% burn through 
my battery before. 

621
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,000
My card has ever gone really. 
Oh yeah, I have yeah this will 

622
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,600
change you. 
Yeah, I'm excited. 

623
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,800
Charge It Up full and then I 
guarantee you'll finish the Pod 

624
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,600
way but you'll finish two pods 
before. 

625
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:45,700
That sounds like you smoke more 
than I do and I'm sure you can 

626
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,300
finish this whole pot in a day I
could. 

627
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:52,600
But I don't I limit myself and 
that's why I also use flour and 

628
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:55,800
tinctures and other stuff 
because yeah, if I do I'll just 

629
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,300
blow through one in the day and 
Omer only limiting myself right 

630
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,600
now because I just had surgery 
but otherwise I would be smoking

631
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,800
way more. 
II, am I am absolutely impressed

632
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,300
and just, you know, for those 
that are listening and I mean, 

633
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:14,800
we have big areas out there, you
know, our Cali people, would 

634
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:20,199
love you, we talking about this,
get out there. 

635
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,800
Get these, get these new darts. 
If you guys got the darts, man, 

636
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,600
you guys are lucky for those 
Utah. 

637
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,400
People that listen to us. 
It's kind of this, this is for 

638
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,199
you guys launching these in 
Pennsylvania and Missouri's. 

639
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,800
Well, I mean others day. 
Besides Missouri has gotten 

640
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,800
these darts. 
Oh hello. 

641
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,100
Right now long before us. 
Yeah. 

642
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:44,000
Utah for we're a little slow. 
Well we just launched two months

643
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,699
ago. 
No, I meant you tons. 

644
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,100
Yeah. 
Slow on the pickup but I mean 

645
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,699
there's amount of time. 
Yeah. 

646
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:53,000
It is right. 
Just like you gotta count for 

647
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,199
jet lag. 
Yeah. 

648
00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Yeah, this has been amazing. 
You know, one of the things that

649
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,000
guys, I mean, we got to know 
each other a little bit 

650
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,900
personally before we got into 
this and I just appreciate the 

651
00:35:05,908 --> 00:35:09,100
hell you guys really, really, 
really care about the product 

652
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:13,000
because you are the product and 
to really cannabis companies 

653
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,600
that have we've seen, come and 
go. 

654
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,200
They're all about that. 
Just chasing the coin. 

655
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,200
But man, it says something to us
as consumers. 

656
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,200
We have a real good connection 
with the products. 

657
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,100
We have just like we were 
talking about Kleenex, you know.

658
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:29,200
Yep. 
It becomes that. 

659
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000
And this This is got that 
amazing feel. 

660
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:33,400
Oh yeah. 
Well thank you, man. 

661
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,400
Yeah. 
Sweet with Moxie. 

662
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:41,200
Obviously you like creating 
doing your own strains? 

663
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,100
Everything like that. 
Do you have a favorite 

664
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,200
concoction? 
Yeah. 

665
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:52,100
So back in the day, when I lived
on Jordans couch, he's our CEO. 

666
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,100
This all started just like a 
seed company that we had in one 

667
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,300
of the extra bedrooms in our 
house in North Hollywood. 

668
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,800
And so in that seed, Vroom that 
we had, it was like a for 

669
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,200
lighter. 
I I made a strain. 

670
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:12,100
It was, it was our vipre city OG
mixed with tanji and amazing 

671
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,800
strain. 
I called it golden Cobra and 

672
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,300
that's to this day, one of my 
all-time favorites, we have it 

673
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:22,500
growing up in WoW, wherever in 
the mountains right now. 

674
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,100
Yeah, and harvesting soon. 
And so that'll be one of the 

675
00:36:26,107 --> 00:36:29,900
ones that the Utah people will 
be able to enjoy man. 

676
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
You got it Frank. 

677
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,000
Oh yeah. 
I had all the old stuff that 

678
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,200
Moxie made from the beginning. 
Yeah. 

679
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,300
Like literally the begins with 
the first stuff ever dad. 

680
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:48,100
So yes I'm very excited for all 
the new new new that's growing 

681
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,700
right now that will be coming 
down soon. 

682
00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:54,700
So it won't just be all the you 
Todd, typical stuff that you see

683
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,000
ya. 
We're going to have new flavors.

684
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,800
That's exciting. 
You terms. 

685
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,900
So we're your first day. 
Dabs on like two, hot knives or 

686
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,300
were they with like, an actual 
rigs? 

687
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,700
Very small rig? 
I had no idea what I was doing. 

688
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,200
Did you know about the 
temperature? 

689
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:14,300
No, no. 
See, I caught your lungs out. 

690
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,900
I mean, really hard. 
No, yeah, yeah. 

691
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:23,700
I was it was way too hot. 
I was not doing it right. 

692
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,100
It's all that just pees 
everywhere like oh my God it 

693
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:38,500
Like These are nice floors. 
Yeah luckily it was no damage. 

694
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:40,100
I was able to get it all off 
mic. 

695
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,700
That's how high that shit made 
me. 

696
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:44,600
I was just not paying attention 
to my surroundings. 

697
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,600
Wow. 
So when you guys started 

698
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,200
dabbing, was it Glow? 
He's on a titanium nail or what 

699
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,200
were you doing, Nas? 
I mean, my first was in on a rig

700
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,200
from him because I was always 
like that shit. 

701
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Look like a crack pipe to me all
the time because problem, right?

702
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:01,900
Yeah, I don't like that. 
I didn't like that feel but you 

703
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:05,700
know, using what was like? 
One of the first ones you just 

704
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,400
had your like, little Rigsby 
come. 

705
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:08,900
Yeah. 
The puff Coke I had the puff 

706
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,400
Coke Peak Pro. 
Oh man, that's like the perfect 

707
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,000
first dab experience. 
Yeah, that's what everything 

708
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,500
actually, I prefer this one. 
This is the dr. 

709
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:20,100
Diver switch. 
And it has a bigger water, 

710
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:23,600
chamber itself cleaning. 
It also is so much easier to 

711
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,900
clean the pub Co because the one
problem with the puff Co is the 

712
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:29,900
air chamber that goes between, 
it gets clogged really. 

713
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,800
Indiana, and then starts failing
just like our friends like after

714
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,700
a little bit, he's just like 
this sucks. 

715
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:38,500
And that sucks. 
I know that, I don't know, no 

716
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,700
one but I mean, I was, I was 
fortunate enough. 

717
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:43,400
I mean, he probably had it on to
hot knives. 

718
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,800
As first time know, my first one
was trying to think. 

719
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,900
I think it was actually just a 
fad, a Brig but with like a 

720
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:53,500
blowtorch. 
Yeah, yeah. 

721
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:56,400
You know, obviously it was way 
too hot. 

722
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Sure it wasn't until she 
finished the whole thing. 

723
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,900
Yeah. 
Exactly, it wasn't until months 

724
00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:05,000
and months in that I finally 
realized. 

725
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:10,800
I am just like charring the shit
out of this and it hurts going 

726
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,500
down. 
So finally, I started I got to 

727
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:18,200
the point that I found the 
perfect timer and I would set 

728
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,500
Alexa to set a time round or 
it's a noun and I go hey Alexa 

729
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:25,600
set a like 90 second timer and 
I'd wait 90 seconds for it to 

730
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,400
cool and then I'd put my dad in,
put my top on and I what is 

731
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,300
this? 
A banger? 

732
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:35,400
Or we talked about animating her
back in the day, it was. 

733
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,900
Yeah. 
Oh damn, okay. 

734
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:40,900
Because I remember like just 
titanium nails and then they 

735
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:43,500
came out that company. 
Whoever I forget what the 

736
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,800
compiler educated they were 
making all the titanium stuff 

737
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,900
and then they came out with a 
carb cap and it was like we were

738
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:54,100
all like, what the fuck change 
that for and then you realize 

739
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,500
like oh you can it's creating a 
vacuum in there so you can 

740
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,600
vaporize shit at a lower 
temperature and it's like then 

741
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,700
it Like I can taste dabs. 
Like this is great. 

742
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,300
Ha ha, ha damn, is even better 
than I thought it was like crazy

743
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:10,200
and not being has 26 different 
temperature. 

744
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,100
Ranges. 
I think of crazy that you can do

745
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:15,800
and you can do a flower or a 
concentrate section and so you 

746
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,700
can do really low Terps and that
it's nice. 

747
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:23,300
It's get so much more flavorful.
Yeah, changes the game. 

748
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,500
Do you know these things? 
Man? 

749
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:27,600
Dude, it was best lucky for 
starts moving dabs. 

750
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,300
Now can't gas anymore. 
Right. 

751
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,400
Still have a torch, I do for 
sure. 

752
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,900
Yeah, on the road dabs dude. 
No, no. 

753
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:45,900
I just had I don't have one of 
these things so it's like, I 

754
00:40:45,908 --> 00:40:48,400
gotta go old school. 
He's old school really, I got a 

755
00:40:48,408 --> 00:40:50,900
little teeny little rig, I put 
it in a shoe. 

756
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:54,500
It's tucked under my feet. 
Probably, you never seen the 

757
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:58,400
little dab straws. 
No, I have seen that like a hose

758
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,100
or no. 
No, no, no, no. 

759
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:02,700
I mean you can Those their 
automatic I had 12. 

760
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,000
That was, who is it? 
I don't remember. 

761
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,600
But it was just electric and it 
was like you carry that super 

762
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,200
easy around. 
That was electric. 

763
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,500
But no, it's an actual just like
silicone tube with a glass tip. 

764
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:18,600
All right, titanium tip. 
Yeah you heat up that then you 

765
00:41:18,607 --> 00:41:22,700
just touch it in your Puck and 
it's super easy. 

766
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:24,900
Yeah that would be that would 
probably better than one and you

767
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:27,500
can carry around just one of the
tiny little butane torch has and

768
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:29,200
you don't need one of the 
massive things. 

769
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,900
Yeah that the Blazer are you? 
Go old school, right? 

770
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,300
Laser torch in baby, that's 
wild. 

771
00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:39,900
That's so funny, man. 
I am feeling amazing on this 

772
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:43,900
Dart and so do you do a lot of 
carts or what your favorite way 

773
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:45,400
to partake? 
I dab. 

774
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,200
Yeah, a lot. 
Yeah. 

775
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:50,500
Especially because like Frank 
and I are essentially also 

776
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:53,200
quality assurance for Moxie you 
course you know. 

777
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,500
So it's like everything that 
comes out of the lab. 

778
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,100
We gotta make sure yesterday so 
hard. 

779
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,100
Yeah it was rough day. 
I got to start the morning down 

780
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,300
by another damn when we got our 
Edibles are. 

781
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:10,700
Right? 
I'm Callie like the samples, 

782
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:11,100
right? 
Yeah. 

783
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,300
The already ones that and it was
a lot of them. 

784
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,800
Probably over 10 flavors. 
Right? 

785
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,600
Yeah. 
For sure. 

786
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Yeah. 
And I tried every single one 

787
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,300
that's like there's some good. 
I'm just going to keep you know,

788
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,500
keep I gotta you know you know 
obviously we wanted to like open

789
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:28,700
for operations yet. 
So I went home and by the time I

790
00:42:28,707 --> 00:42:32,600
got home, I was Sleeping for 
like four hours in the middle of

791
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,800
the day. 
It was horrible. 

792
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,200
They just took too much and and 
who took the whole you took 100.

793
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:39,600
Yeah. 
I popped a hundred before we 

794
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,400
started. 
We are you feeling now feeling 

795
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,800
it? 
No, no. 

796
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,300
Do you know how long they take 
to kick in pretty quick for me? 

797
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,500
Yeah. 
Usually my 3040 that's usually 

798
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:51,400
about, I have start tutorial it 
like a little cord. 

799
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,800
Like I feel like I'm feeling but
it also, I don't know. 

800
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,400
Yeah, I'm feeling good. 
I mean with the dart, let me 

801
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,300
know if I think about it. 
I might have a Slight. 

802
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:03,700
Tingle this guy. 
How must I say on my core? 

803
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,200
Yeah. 
Yeah like little Terminator of 

804
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,700
taking uh see over here going I 
don't feel every single throwing

805
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:13,500
at me. 
I'm impervious to pain, right? 

806
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:16,400
This is like, he's like 
impervious to your teenage son. 

807
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,300
He lat. 
He would have something and I 

808
00:43:19,308 --> 00:43:22,200
would sit there going. 
I would put me in like into 

809
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,500
full-on cerebral. 
Palsy mode where I'm like 

810
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:28,000
drooling at the left side of my 
face and only my right side is 

811
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,700
actually usable the other ones 
completely Frozen do. 

812
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,200
Garnet is a weird thing, dude. 
So weird thing. 

813
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,300
All right, sorry to cut this one
short we have about another 30 

814
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:41,700
minutes left, but to respect 
your time, we want to keep it in

815
00:43:41,707 --> 00:43:45,100
the same time frame as the rest 
of our episodes. 

816
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,200
If you'd like to hear the rest, 
go ahead and head over to our 

817
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,100
patreon. 
That'll be in the show notes, 

818
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,600
and you can hear the rest of the
episode. 

819
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:56,900
And once again, thanks for 
tuning in, we'll catch y'all 

820
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:57,600
next week.
