Welcome to cannabis school. I'm your host Jessie Angeles and
I'm Brandon Elder and we're here to talk to you about everything
pertaining to cannabis from bait, flower Edibles, strains
and everything in between. Oh, we're visiting with Dustin
Hawksworth from fat nugs magazine tested.
Thank you so much for being here.
We're very excited to have you on dude, let's get right into
it. How did you come up with nugs,
what pushed you to that point where you're like, I'm going to
release a publication about cannabis.
That's a great question. So my history with the plant
dates back to when I was born basically, I have 22 family
members that are either current or former military.
So as they were coming back from Vietnam, we had a ton of issues
in my family, right. PTSD issues is what we would
refer to it. Now we didn't know it was PTSD
back then, but that's what we know it is now.
So we'd let's call it. What it was was always consumed
in my family was always smoked in my family.
So it was always normalized. Yeah.
So my earliest childhood memories are of my aunts and
uncles and my dad and everybody just consuming.
That's just what it was. I also With an indigenous
stepfather for nine years in st. Louis.
Missouri. And he was a consumer and let's
just say, I saw a plant or two around the house.
Haha, I ended up putting myself through college by running
pounds from Atlanta, Georgia Down to Georgia, Southern
University as well. So the plant has always sort of
been in my life from my earliest childhood moments of seeing my
family, consume to putting myself through getting my
education putting Myself through college and then I became a
daily smoker in 95 or daily consumer in 95.
So again, it's been a long time that I've been around this
plant, I ended up after school after graduating college,
surprisingly enough and actually played college volleyball as
well. So even though I'm a daily
consumer, I'm still extremely active.
And it's one of the things that I like to focus on in this, with
this magazine is sort of punching people in the face,
with that term Stone. And anybody that thinks there's
a negative connotation to it. Because I can tell you right now
that I am a fucking Stoner, but I graduated from college, I am,
extremely active, I played college sports, I am, you know,
very creative, you know, that kind of stuff.
So, I've done things in my life. So that's one of those things
with this magazine. That's very important to me.
So anyway, after my grafter, graduating college ended up
doing 14 years in the corporate world, Lee living that good life
living that dual life, that a lot of us live, we put on our
nice clothes during the day and so that we can, you know, come
home and rip the bong at night and fucking day ourselves for
wants, you know, that's kind of how I lived for a very long
time. And I think a lot of us do, I
think a lot of us that have been around cannabis most of our
lives or since our childhood, or teenage years?
We realized that we're probably going to have to get like normal
jobs and not be able to smoke, you know, all the time or at all
or will have to go through. Tests and all that kind of shit.
So yeah, I experienced all that stuff over 14 years.
I did fail. A drug test.
I passed drug test. All kinds of stuff.
The corporate world was definitely not for me, even
though I had to do it. I also learned a lot of stuff, I
focused on CX, customer data consumer insights, that kind of
stuff, so customer experience. I ran a lot of really big
programs for companies like apple Abercrombie, & Fitch, Home
Depot, low CenturyLink, and the list goes on and on.
On dude. I finally got shit cans of the
last time in 2018 from my last real job, right?
And I ended up going into the film industry.
My here in Atlanta. The film industry is huge.
Yeah, your you did, like the banker and what women want.
Yeah. What women want.
Banker Godzilla vs. Kong?
Dude. That's cool.
We did a lot of. I did a lot of cool stuff over
the four years that I was there. I am very, very lucky.
And extremely privileged to have my best friend is one of the
greatest filmmakers in the world.
So I owe a big gratitude of debt to him for taking care of me for
four years. Basically is what he did was
kind of show me the ins and outs of what he does.
And the things that are important within the industry
and being a part of the film Union and all of that kind of
stuff, it was a really cool place to be because I was
surrounded by a bunch of really fucking creative people on a
daily. Basis.
It was rad to be in that in those settings with a lot of
people that just created things from scratch all day long.
So what that did was really kind of cement a lot of the creative
things that I've always done in my life.
It really cemented it in place, and it told me that I need to
make sure that I'm being creative on a daily basis.
I've written and released three albums on my own.
I've played in bands, I do some painting blah blah blah.
So I'm always looking King for some sort of creative Outlet.
Creative dump is what I like to call it.
So, when the pandemic kid, I was like, what the hell do I do now?
So I thought to myself. Well, I've been around the plant
my entire life. I consume this fucking thing.
I know a lot about the plant. I have grown in my life.
There's nothing that I haven't done touched talked about
discussed consumed, when it comes to the plant period
through. Throughout my entire life.
So I said, why don't I take my knowledge into the legal side?
Instead of always having my toes dipped into the Legacy or
traditional side of things and I thought it was kind of a perfect
time to do it. So really over the past I guess
it's about nine months now. Eight or nine months you know
after I've been in the industry for a little while, I started to
want to build up this network in connecting and Linkedin is a
huge part of that, right? LinkedIn is the number one
platform that I know of that allows cannabis to exist in its
purest form. We can talk about smoking, we
can show smoking. We can you know, whatever we got
to do, we can soak, we can show consumption.
We can talk about all the things that cannabis can do.
So it was a really important thing for me to realize that
LinkedIn was going to be key to me building this magazine
because that's where are a lot of the decision-makers live.
That's where a lot of the sort of influencers.
I hate to use that word in the industry live.
And I don't mean that by just an influencer, I mean, people that
have been around this plant for a long time, that are part of
this culture that have been the part of this culture that have
been respectful to the people that got us here.
Maybe you're one of the people that got us here.
You know, some of these people actually live on LinkedIn.
That's where they operate. So I I had to use LinkedIn first
and foremost. And when I did that it helped me
to develop my voice even more so in the industry itself.
So about eight or nine months ago, I started looking for a new
creative dump. I'm stoned sitting on my couch
at night just like most of us are you know watching a TV you
know watching TV wasting time, whatever it is I'm doing playing
with my fucking cat and I just started to create these covers
so to speak. Yeah.
And It was a way for me to really communicate on a larger
scale to it. Might to my wider Network to all
of my connections at once because one that allowed me to
be creative as hell. I could just put a bunch of cool
cannabis stuff on a cover and start to create, maybe some
titles of things of articles that I would want to talk about.
And I released it on a Friday and it just got huge a huge
response. And I was like, what?
I was not expecting this. This was this kind of cool, you
know, as cool in the response to it was so big that I couldn't
catch up to the DMS and on LinkedIn.
I was like, holy shit. What the fuck is going on?
And people were asking me, how do I get this?
Where do I read these articles? This is fucking dope as hell.
All of that. Kind of, can you send me the
magazine? And I'm like, wait, this doesn't
exist. You have some real hard?
Yeah for sure. Thank you.
You know, and I had to tell
people when I first Started this, I was like, this isn't
real. This isn't a magazine, this is
just a creative dump, a creative outlet for me.
And so I realized after about the third Friday, I call it fat
nugs Friday. I've been I started.
Papa was like okay, that was cool.
So I'm going to do it again on next Friday.
Friday came posted, another one, blew up again next Friday came.
Plus it posted another one and it got such a large purse Ponce
that I had a couple of cannabis media companies approach me
know. Shit and they were like we would
like to possibly talk to you about bringing this tin house
and I was like, bringing what in-house.
This doesn't fucking exist. You realize that this is this is
not a real magazine yet. Now, this is only the third week
that I had, you know, posted something about it.
So people weren't cool, really familiar with what it was yet
and through some conversations, I ended up realizing very
quickly that I needed to make this thing.
NG be real because it fills an enormous Gap that we have in
this industry. And that enormous Gap is
something that people were telling me about and it was
really something I hadn't realized it's we don't have or
and I please excuse me, I don't mean to bash or belittle
anyone's work in this industry at all.
I would never do that. But from what I have been told a
lot of people believe and feel that they don't have a voice in
this industry that being culture side of things, small farmers
Equity, applicants mom-and-pop shops, women-owned businesses
Legacy and traditional owned businesses.
They don't have a voice in this industry.
A lot of it is run by very large companies and people that can
donate to politicians to control the game.
Right. I think we all know that.
Yeah. So I said okay well this is
perfect because my grandparents owned a farm.
I came from a military family background.
I've always been fucking poor always been around a plant like
this is my community right? This is right fucking Community.
These are the people that I connect with I smoke with, I
hike with I play sports with these.
This is my community. So I said, okay, let's do this
and starting to build the magazine from scratch right
there. And there.
So it took me probably from the time that I first posted
something and I could be totally wrong.
I think this was back in late March early April, the very
first real digital publication of fat.
Nugs magazine was released on May 6th, so, that's how quickly
it came about. That's how it came about.
Now, the name itself. It's sort of our our stoner
vernacular, right? It's that's a fat sack.
Those are fat joints, that's a pets, fat blood, those are fat
nugs, that's a fat blunt, you know.
So it just kind of came naturally.
There is actual there's a magazine called nugs.
I knew that but there's not a magazine called fat nugs, but
there is that there is now, where is he?
Exactly there is now. So that's basically how it came
about guys. And, you know, some of the
things that we really focus on. Obviously, what I said before is
much of the culture as possible and uplifting people voices and
businesses that are doing really good things in this industry and
for people, and they're focused on education and Science and
understanding and all of that kind of stuff.
So it's trying to spread uplifting positive messages
about the plant. The people that are in this
culture and really taking cannabis and Stoner culture to
the rest of the world, being that bridge and Having people
understand that even if you're not in the know or understand
cannabis and Stoner culture or what the fuck that is when you
read, what is in this magazine and the things that we release,
even though they might be a little educational or
scientific. There's always a personal spin
to those things. It's a way that we connect.
How do you connect with people with cannabis, on a personal
level? It's not science and education
and I'm sorry to tell people that But are you can talk
science and education to your next-door neighbor till you're
blue in the fucking face. But until you say my mom was
here yesterday. She 75 and smoked a joint
because she has back pain, they don't know, one really gives a
shit you have to be able to connect with people on a
personal level. You really do storytelling is
huge. You have to have those elements
when you are releasing content in cannabis, in my view because
that's how we bring people in. And that's how we win over
hearts and Minds, all of that positive stuff.
So those are the things we focus on and we do that by being a
global perspective of cannabis culture, we have Riders from all
over the world. Kenya Ireland, Scotland,
Bermuda, Spain, Canada. He's naming up a list of all of
our where our listeners Heredia you go.
There you go. So you know, we do our best to
be as inclusive as possible. You have lgbtq+ Riders, black,
white, red pink, whatever fucking color you can pick.
We are a part of that and we like to have it that way and we
like to uplift the voices that really, we believe people should
be here and in this space. Yeah.
You know, when you talk about exactly what this, the voice of
the Cannabis Community, one of the things that is done so much
for those people that are like sitting right on the fence.
I mean, we create Our content 100% for consumers of cannabis.
Not the many other ones out there.
I mean, hey, I like being a starter, but I am a functional
stone or just like you, like, I get shit done.
I'm a creative. I mean, just like when you're
talking about creative dumps, I've got to have constant just
stimulation because if I stay still, I literally start getting
depressed because I have nothing to do.
I'm like II can create something right now.
Yeah, when you when you are talking about being able to be
Publication for the Cannabis Community, it goes those for the
consumers because those new people getting involved the
sometimes that you know that part of their mind where they're
just like, I know. But Society, you know, the War
on Drugs. We just have this interview
yesterday with this awesome, professional retired, rugby
player this woman out of she lives.
She never went away. Yeah, but she was from Northeast
and I mean, come on, just dude, like breaking down those
barriers. Like I mean she was a
Professional athlete using cannabis on the regular and it's
so cool. Yeah, it's absolutely necessary
to be able to do that these days right at.
You have to be able to break down barriers even though and I
know a lot of people that have been smoking weed for a long
time, sort of hate to have these conversations because it feels
so uncool right but to have an ability to bring people in to
the plan, Welcome them here, make them feel comfortable, you
know, breakdown stigmas, or doors or anything else are any
hurdles or anything else that's in the way of people.
Just understanding that the plant is just a, it's just a
fucking plant. It's just like a, it's just like
broccoli, it's just like a tomato.
It's just like anything. You can grow.
It's not going to kill you. It's never killed anyone, unless
a big plant falls on you and you die out.
It cold, there was the first part of me.
There is the first death from Cannabis that and it's hang on,
let me finish. That's because when I read it I
was like the hell that's not a thing.
But it was from a lady in a joint rolling company and there
was so much Keith in the air that the masks or whatever,
like, it coated her lungs and she died from like, basically
being suffocated but not from that.
Good anymore. Anything that wasn't you?
Connected. It should be regulated by the
business. It's but the first like actual
death from Cannabis, but it's not like, you're not.
It's not from consumption. No, no, no, right.
So, and that's the worry, that's the fear.
That's the, the fear-mongering that it's that's, that's the
Reefer Madness part of this is if you write Sumit, oh my God,
you turn into whatever. But I think we're, I think, for
the most part, most of our country, in a lot of the world.
You know, as individual people. We understand again, for the
most part, right? Plant is not harmful smoking
weed, isn't going to kill you. It's not going to turn you into
anything stupid. It's not good.
You know it we mostly understand that it becomes this group thing
when it's used in political ways or when it's used basically in
political and in I guess law enforcement circles, right?
At that When it's used the most to sort of manipulate and
mindful of people. But it's only on the story.
That's being told because behind the closed doors, there's tons
of those officials. And police officers who are
using cannabis all the fucking time.
And it's, I know those people firsthand.
I know, cops firsthand, who do blow who smoke weed get fucking
wasted and bust people for doing the same exact thing that they
do. So, I know the I have family
that, you know, are sort of in that law enforcement realm that,
you know, say some stupid shit. And I think we all know that
judges lawyers doctors and everyone else that you can think
of down to the guy who's cutting Lawns, and digging holes and
ditches on the side of the road. We're all cannabis consumers,
period. Cannabis culture, welcomes us
all. But we need people to be willing
to, I guess, Step Up and Scream a little louder because even
though again it's not always that cool.
You know for people like us who have been consuming the plant
for a long time. I am assuming, by the way that
at least a week or not. Oh yeah, a couple of days.
You know, it's not always fun or cool to have those conversations
but they Our fucking necessary, you know, we have to be able to
remind people that, you know, your next-door neighbor.
Who is a judge, just got through rolling me a big fatty.
So, yeah, it's important. Well, even my mom, so we had a
conversation over Sunday dinner the other day and it started by
my brother and sister going, hey, you know, their dogs like
eight and she's getting seizures and I just was like, you know,
you should give her CPD because high-dose CBD is actually one of
the biggest things that helps with Zap, electives epileptic
seizures, and she was like, really and Mike.
Yeah, every and my brothers, like, dogs can take CBD, you
know, my, every single mammal has an endocannabinoid system.
That means that every single mammal has that system that
helps their body returned to homeostasis and if they're
stressed or depressed or have this pain in their it's hurting,
that they're not going to return to that.
And so if you give me a CD, yeah, if you can give them that
CBD. I can help with these epileptic
seizures, and they were like, what that's crazy.
And so I sent an out of that conversation.
My mom was like, well, one of the, this family friend that we
have, her son can't work. He has so many epileptic,
seizures that the medications and side effects, he can't work
and she was like, can you send me something on this?
And I'm like, yeah, I pulled it up in like two seconds.
It's produced by the Epilepsy Foundation going into Ow, CPD
helps. I sent it over and I'm a if they
have questions, let me know. And it's as simple as like a
basic conversation. It's not hard.
No, it it's not hard to find the documentation you need these
days we have 30 to 40,000 documented documented, studies
articles are studies Korean the last 20, 30 years alone.
Yeah, yeah. Actually so it's been one of the
most studied things that we consume these days.
Yeah, it's not hard to have those really simple
conversations. It's always nice when you can
put personal face-to-face, this is my experience with it.
Here is an article that will tell you about it.
Yeah. It's it's important that we have
those conversations these days. Speaking of CBD, I consume CBD
on a daily basis as well. It's helped me tremendously in
my life. It's taken.
So I was on Oh my goodness. I was on.
Let's see, Xanax for probably 10 plus years and the moment well
within about I would say about four to six weeks of me, taking
a, an extremely high quality. Broad-spectrum, CBD, CBD, CBN
product that I take every day, I came off of Xanax immediately
it, which is something you're not supposed to do at all
because it can cause seizures and all kinds of stuff.
Yeah. So anecdotally CBD has CBD has
really changed my life as well. That's fantastic.
It really does. I take it several times a day
for the inflammation in the pain in my back because while THC is
a great pain management system like it still doesn't hit those
sharp pains and that That I have in the middle of my back.
And so using CBD multiple times a day, it allows me to still
like, hit both sides or multiple sides of that pain.
Help me function on a much better level.
Yeah, you just explain why it's so important to consume full
spectrum product, right? So or or even a cultivar like
Harlequin where it's a one-to-one.
So, you know, and that way I wouldn't have to always My DVD
and regular weed together, you know.
Yeah. But yeah, it's important.
I think for people to realize that CBD and other minor
cannabinoids are just as important to consume and to
consume them on a regular basis, you're constantly feeding your
ECS to keep you from being sick and to feeling off or to have
back pains or any of that kind of stuff, it's important to get
on a regiment. People need to be using it on a
daily basis, consuming it on a daily Basis.
Yeah. Almost as like, I mean, I think
about it a little bit more. Now, like we talked about it all
the time. If you get your stomach hurts,
you get a headache or you got some random pain like just come
out of nowhere. Achiness you smoke, the plant.
It goes away. It's so incredible.
When you start getting. I mean, just like you, you know,
your entire life. You've tried so many different
strains and I know the idea that said, you know, stranger kind of
bullshit. But at the same time, it's a way
for us to identify I certain things to us as individuals
going, because as much as we would like it to be just like,
yeah, it's awesome. It's a great plant.
We're going back in time now. Now with all these different
strains, we actually started thinking about the terpenes and
and what are the cannabinoids in each one that really start to be
able to create what you're looking for.
So it's not necessarily one way or the other with this, when
people say that strains are varieties or cultivars the
names, their, don't necessarily mean anything.
It's a yes and a no and it depends on what it is that
you're referring to what you're talking about.
All that kind of stuff. But the most important this is
what I usually tell people, regardless of the name that you
have on your back or your bottle or your jar or whatever, you're
consuming that day you you need to know or what is great to know
is the actual profile of the cannabinoid and terpene profile.
And then the way because you know, one And Mac may be
completely different than another person's Macon that
cannabinoid in terpene profile scale.
Right. So that Mac is this person's
back, could completely put you to sleep and this one could you
know make you stay up all night doing whatever it is you need to
do so yeah it's all about the profile the names.
Yes. They don't mean necessarily
everything that we wish they did, right?
So at the same time they do mean some things so you know it's A
complicated thing every once in a while the way that we talk
about the planner of the refer to the plant but I think overall
as long as we all kind of know that we're all talking about
sort of the same thing which is the cannabinoid and terpene
profile that's basically what it comes down to no matter what
strain variety or cultivar you're consuming its that
profile that's going to make you as a person feel particular way.
And if you know what that profile is you can start to hone
in On those particular varieties that tend to lean that way,
right? And then you can hone in on
those and really get your profile that you're looking for
over and over again. So on find the cultivar that
matches, what it is you're looking for because like you
said from cultivar to cultivar, it's not necessarily the same,
it's very similar but you might have different terpenes and
cannabinoids that are present. Yeah.
Just depending on the grow and it's like looking at the
medicine part 2. I mean it.
It is, it's a medicine. Wouldn't it be wonderful for
most people who consider you like Western medicine pills, all
those things? Like that's what I have to take
because that's what I've been told for years but where you can
match each of these. I mean just like you're talking
with the full profile of the plant, can be able to match your
ECS and figuring that out land along the way.
It's like it's designer Pharmaceuticals if you will.
Yeah. And which is the pharmaceutical
company fucking hates because you can actually grow your own
medicine in your house to the Zack specifications right here.
If you know what that is you can you can grow it that way.
It's a really cool thing to be a part of and to steer this plant
kind of develop and grow as much as it has over the past few
years I guess since it became. What is about 2014?
I think Colorado was the the full legalization buddy.
Come on, get off me, probably sorry, that that's awesome.
Then over the years because with how long you've been using
cannabis since. I mean I think you had said your
first use was around nine. Ten years old with the very
first time you're handed a joint.
Yeah, so I think the first time that I really smoked was
probably 12 years old. The first time that I was handed
a joint as a kid and my brother is six years older than I am.
So of course, when he's in high school, he would have parties.
I can remember this particular instance, I was getting passed
up the stairs. My parents were out of town that
I was getting passed up the stairs along with my buddy, we
had just come home from the skating rink, you know, back in
st. Louis, we did the whole skating
ring thing and And so crowded, as they're passing me up the
stairs there, like here, kid hit this, you know, and I'm like,
oh, what the hell is this? I don't think I ever really
smoke it at 9 years old, but I know at 12 years old, I did
whether it did anything to me, I don't think so, but that's sort
of how we'd works, right? Very first time start to smoke.
You're like, I don't know if I'm up, I'll know if this does
anything and sometimes it doesn't do anything and it takes
your ECS a minute to kind of Kick in, you know, sometimes you
need it two or three times for your ECS to realize.
Oh, okay. This is the fuel that I'm
supposed to be using. And then, so you get that those
feelings and, and get the medicated part that you're
supposed to get. So, I have seen the different
ways that people consume or I guess the The View on
consumption change since being a little kid.
Really kind of in a few different ways and some weird
ways that I never thought I would.
So when I was young, it was very normal, right?
It was everywhere for me, it was not.
It was not it. Yeah, it was not a problem
because of my family, my, you know, my military background
family, and being sort of, I guess poorer in st.
Louis the city that, you know, we were just smokers.
That's what we did not. I say we not me.
I was a kid, but it, my family. And so it was always normalized
and kind of not a big deal. Then as you get into the high
school years, you're fed the, you know, dare bullshit, and all
of that stuff. So, obviously, the look on
consumption is a lot different. From the time I was up until I
was 11 years old, and then from 11 to 16, it was like, oh my
God, it's the devil's lettuce, right?
That's kind of, when they start pumping you.
All of that shit or at least that's when I realized it and
maybe it was because I moved from st.
Louis down to Atlanta, Georgia. And maybe that was sort of much
more of the focus here in the deeper.
South was that dare program in all of that crap?
Yeah. Same here.
The Utah. Very much pushing even into.
Yes, the 90s. And yeah, yeah, no doubt and
Utah. I'm surprised you guys could do
anything in Utah. You know, they have shackles
around their legs, you just can't see him right now, you
know what, it's a big surprise for most people they come here.
Like, oh, it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be just,
it's like, yeah, not everybody is wearing Bonnets and blue
dresses. Yeah, exactly.
Mine's in the closet. That's like weekend.
It's a hell. Yeah, for real.
So, in a dude, it's not much different than the South here
there. People think when you come here
it's you know, the KKK is running around still.
The I still get those kind of like Are still half ass
backwards but teeth or no teeth kind of like no we're all from
some Atlanta is is sort of the New York of the South, it that
it's where the it's the Melting Pot of melting, pot of the
South, you know, everybody is from everywhere.
So anyway, I saw it, you know, normalized as a very young child
and then in high school, it kind of went away until I was about
six. 18 or 17 years old and, of course, you're sneaking around
with your friends and stuff, but it's still very much quiet.
You don't know if your parents are smoking, you don't know if
your parents friends are smoking for the most part, you know what
I mean? So it was hidden.
And then of course, in college in the 90s, I went to school in
93. That's when it really blew up
where we had much more of the cultures in your face, with
hip-hop coming on board and Snoop Dogg, and yeah, We had to
park Dr. Dre all we're talking about like smoking weed.
Yeah. Lutely Wu-Tang.
You know? So Outcast and you so you had
hip-hop sort of, really push the culture forward in the 90s I
believe and that kind of made this the snowball start I think,
is how it really began in the 90s.
I think Hip-hop kind of pushed us forward as far as As
consumption and normalizing it more and more as sort of went.
So really it kind of went from our Farmers to our hippie
culture to, you know, more or less hip hop culture and that
pushed us forward. And really since the 2000s, I
think you've seen a really large concerted effort from a lot of
different, you know, special groups to help cannabis, you
know, further, help push it into And Norms of consumption.
So, you know that it's been a rollercoaster.
So to speak. As far as the differences from
really, from decade to decade when it comes to consumption and
it's, we're now in a place where I see, you know, super
conservative people here in this state where it's not legal.
By the way, we don't have legal cannabis in Georgia, it is
decriminalized in the city where I live Atlanta But we have
extremely conservative, people who are consuming, they do it
much more, discreetly wouldn't be one to sit here and smoke a
joint with me, right? Like I have been with you all,
but they would be one that maybe after their work.
They go to the kitchen, they grab their gummy, or they grab
their, their beverage, or their beverage enhancer or whatever,
and it's one of those things and that's another thing.
It's my consumption. The middle of the modalities
over the last few years have changed significantly for me.
So even though I smoke a lot still, I'm now at a place where
I have access to water soluble THC drops basically and really
it's more of a full-spectrum product than that, but that's
kind of what it is. Yeah, so I'm able to make any
drink water. A tea liquor beer, I don't give
a shit what and to infuse dude into an infused, exactly into an
infused cannabis, drink. Excuse me, which is it's sort of
game changing because I don't necessarily need to walk around
or take a break from whatever. I'm doing to go smoke somewhere.
If in fact, I have to do that if I'm in a place where I can't
consume. Yeah, I just have a very
discreet bottle where I'm like, okay, all you guys are out here
drinking Don't really want any liquor today.
So I'm gonna have this water and I'm going to infuse it myself.
So it changes the game a little bit and so my modalities have
changed a little bit. You know, I'm always still a
smoker so bong, rips and joints and stuff like that kind of
please my heart. It's hard.
Not to love that method of like combustion and flower.
Like I agree. It's hard to piece the cleanest
flavor, man. I mean, it's I mean, we talk
about all the time. You know, like if you if you
puff on carts regularly and there's a ceiling you hit, ya
can't go past it. It's like nope, it's like a
little governor on your engine filling.
Yeah, dude, I mean it's awesome. It's close, but not its to
maintain right to maintain travel and it's it's for the
convenience of it. So they're sitting at a bar or
whatever, you can rip your fuckin pain and no one gives a
shit. You sure as hell, can't light up
a joint but no one really cares. If you have a pen, they I don't
know if it's what it is. Anyway, you know, they don't
know if it's tobacco or THC or whatever the hell it is.
So that's more of what pens do for me, where cartridges do for
me. So, I tend to not, I don't have
a single cartridge. I haven't had a cartridge in
probably six months in this house.
That's also most of mostly, what I do is consume flower period
and then I have my drops for my drinks.
That's kind of what A I do it was gonna ask you about that
what's the what's the name of the product?
And where do you mean, you get it over there locally or know?
So I have a buddy, let's just say that he we you might know
him you might be connected to his name's Blake, Vila, he is on
LinkedIn. Quick liquids is the company.
This with they make quick drops. I met him in person for the
first. I've been connected to him for
probably about a year or so maybe a little more.
I met him for the first, First time at MJ Biz super fucking
rad, dude, really supportive? He's really nice.
What Villa VI L LA. I'm going to save that for
later. Cool, very cool.
Dude. And we are currently working
with him to figure out some possible business opportunities
with his product because it's fucking bad-ass.
You guys, it kicks in and it, and I mean, kicks in, within
like, 10 minutes. It's or so that's bent.
Yeah, that's fast. It's not like it's not a regular
cannabis beverage it's where you're waiting.
Twenty Thirty you know the dosing is it / like is it enough
like a 30 ml dropper bottle or is though it's in it here I'll
grab the container for you real quick.
Or is it more like a powder? Yeah, I've seen those okay as
like I've seen some really cool sugars and that I've actually
made infused sugar before. Yeah, and that's really easy to
do and I actually have a thing of infused sugar this point.
So what it is? This water soluble they have the
tech that makes this stuff and when I say water-soluble I mean
it I mean you can stir it into anything, it's fantastic and
it's this is the bottle itself. Oh yeah, that's not that big.
So, no, it's about a to wait about two ounces or so, okay.
And and the dropper itself, you can control the amount of drops
its, you know, build in dropper. It's there's 1,000 milligrams of
THC in this little tiny bottle 1,000.
That's fantastic. So he'll need is a drink doing
her drop. One drop is one milligram, okay,
to so it's fantastic. It's phenomenal, it's perfect.
What am I? Anchor dosing to for people who
want to get like exact dosing, dude.
It's perfect for medication like medical application.
It's perfect for people in the hospital.
It's perfect for people in an old folks home or whatever you
call those things these days. I'm sorry if this is living
centers. I have Assisted Living.
Yep. Absolutely.
It, this is something you can take with you anywhere have an
anything. It's in I said it kicks in,
within 10 to 15 minutes at the most, dude, it is in its strong.
So I've been sort of dosing myself, so to speak for the past
since I've had it for the past couple of weeks to really get a
gauge on the product test the product out.
Make sure it's exactly what I want it to be and what it should
be. And what it says it is and it is
man. It's it's pretty badass.
I'm have been impressed with it to be honest with you and then
like we'll have that in the show notes will put that link for
that. Awesome.
Have you ever have you ever seen the Heavy Hitters tincture?
No. No.
What is that? So that's this is 1000 mg
teacher, looks like liquor. Okay, and it's really, really
good. I know you can't see inside the
bottle or anything but looks like it's like a liquor bottle.
It's who doesn't so Kick-Ass. Good, it smells amazing.
It tastes amazing. It has like a citrusy earthy.
Flavored. Oh wow, send us the link will
throw that, it's dope. So, Heavy Hitters is what it's
called, they're on their archive, they're everywhere,
they're everywhere. They're all Linked In, they're
on Instagram, they're all. They're all over the place and
then around for a minute from what I've been told.
So Blake was nice enough to I've been looking for a Heavy Hitters
bottle for a while. Blake was nice enough to give me
one as well. So that was really cool of him.
But from what I've been told because California is changing
some of their laws for the new year.
This will no longer be available.
I'm not quite sure why. I don't know if it's because of
the amount of THC, the thousand milligrams or whatever, the in
such a sized bottle, or whatever the case may be.
I don't know what it is, what those new regs are that are
making this particular. This specific bottle.
I believe, go away, but that's what I've been told.
I could be wrong about that, but that's what I've been told.
So if you can get your hands on a heavy, otters bottle, get it
as soon as possible. Yeah.
Dad, those are. Okay, so now we got a.
So what's some of the coolest things that you've seen lately
within? Not only just the products, but
in maybe even the cultivar area. Hmm.
So those are great question. That's a great question.
And I have a couple of answers actually.
So that's really cool Shango, I went to Shango in Phoenix.
If you aren't familiar with Shango, they are a fully
integrated company. If they would be an MS.
Oh really? They have operations in five
states. I believe they are growing some
things that I've never in my life thought were possible.
The smell the nose on some of the cultivars that they are
currently growing insane. No, not insane.
Papaya, insane plantain, Oh, stuck.
I stuck my head in a bag of five pound bag of this stuff to get a
good whiff of it when I was there and I've never smelled
something that made my mouth water like that, and it was this
really earthy edible. It make me want to like, pick it
up and eat it. Kind of, it wasn't really
citrusy. It's hard to put my it's hard to
put words to what I was experiencing but that I think
it's called Same plantain. They also have something called
modified banana which I had never seen before, which was
really cool. Extremely flavorful really
bright notes, does it smell a lot like bananas not necessarily
again it's more of that earthy have this earthy thing stuck in
my head since I went there last was it last week of the week
before? So not Well, I tell you what did
smell like bananas so I lie. Oh they were they were making
live rosin bag. Fuck what they were making live
rosin with it and delicious. I was like holy it was so
concentrated. Yeah.
Oh dude the Turks were so concentrated.
It was sick. So those are a couple of cool
cultivars that I've run into and I'm actually smoking one along
with this Georgia pie that came from them called Sour garlic,
cookies. And again, it was I keep it and
I think that were this aligned with in GMO somehow.
I honestly don't know exactly the lineage of it, to be honest
with you. That would be one for Daniel
Crawford to answer. I don't know if you know who
Daniel Crawford is. So he's one of the three Good
Buds. So I also run a company, our own
a company called three good buds on the CEO of Daniel.
Crawford has to see 00. And Aaron Wiese is the CMO and
that's what we were doing in. Phoenix was we went down there
as a company to tour Shango and you know talk business and stuff
like that. So that's cool.
Yeah, three Good. Buds is like seems like a very
good cannabis Community. Tell us a little bit more kind
of about that. Yeah, absolutely.
That's exactly what it is. So you nailed it.
It's we've built this company as a community.
First, it was too. B, a space for people to look.
All of us have been sort of isolated for over the past few
years, right things changed. Let's just be honest, it's not
any secret and we also have a lot of not so much outgoing
people, introverted folks, right?
Introverted people need to have a space to connect with people
in ways that sometimes are More comfortable for them.
So really the company came about back in May of this year because
May is mental, May is mental health month and we thought I
thought of the saying, sesh with friends, it's important because
I was checking up on some of my friends.
I was talking to a couple of friends that were going through
some hard times and it all kind of coincided and I was like, you
know, I need to, I need to go see my friends.
I need to go check up on my friends and Messing with my
friends. It's important.
Kind of kind of came about so we created three Good Buds because
the three of us got on the initial platform together to
smoke. So we were smoking together.
We were creating a small community was just three of us
session together. He's in one of them's in
Arizona, the other ones in in Virginia and I'm in Atlanta,
Georgia. So we connected that way and we
were like, well, why don't we just do this?
And we created three, goodbye. Odds since then it sounds kind
of ridiculous. Since then we've created a
community and hold these live sessions where tons of people
come on they smoke with us. We introduced really cool people
to them that are doing cool things in the industry like
Kristen Yoder talked about for blood.
Yeah, we had David Tran on talk about what he was doing with
Fairchild. We always have so to really
bring value to just your normal average.
Everyday consumer, like you and I or a person in the industry,
excuse me, that might be looking for a job or something new to do
trying to grow their Network or connections or whatever.
We always have special guests, that list will always contain
recruiters because recruiters having a recruiter that you can
see face to face while you're smoking and you're comfortable,
right. Breaks down the barrier.
Yeah, it breaks down, those barriers, that that a lot of us
when we're looking for work, or were looking for someone to help
us find work, or our next gig or whatever.
When you see that person on the other side of your screen and
everybody around them as fucking smoking, we're talking cannabis
and it creates this Comfort level for a job Seeker.
That just doesn't exist anywhere else and I thought dude that is
so fucking important. Let's continue to do that so we
continue to do that. As it evolved.
We've created a community where people are very uplifting
trusting and helpful and supportive of each other.
We have a channel. We have a couple of channels on
telegram, where people come in. We share videos photos, talk
back and forth. Tell everybody, good morning.
Say what's up? We have a job channel on
telegram as well, where we shared jobs, pretty much every
single day, so people have joined that telegram channel so
they can see all sorts of jobs. Abs from all kinds of different
companies within the industry, and it's us kind of stealing as
much as we can from online and posting it in one place.
And being like, here you go check this fucking job.
Out your New York, here's five right here.
So doing trying to help bring some help and bring value to the
community. So, to the Cannabis community.
So that's what we did with three Good Buds and in doing so, we
have now created partners that have brought us in and they are
trusting Us to help build out training.
SOS basically. So we're going into, we've
partnered up with a company called black thumb, they're out
of Australia. They are doing some really cool
stuff with their software for both grow and post-production
and getting it in a way that is in one place, it can do
everything you need track. Everything that needs to be
tracked. It's really a sort of this one.
Stop shop for what is it from like seed to sale or is it?
Bingo. Okay, so it's basically your
one-stop-shop for everything that you're growing.
Your production, your post production needs, so they've
partnered with us or we partnered with them to be their
training arm. Here in the US, there's also
another company that's joining them called weaves there in New
Mexico, but basically three Good Buds is going to be doing most
of the us and we're going to be training grow and
post-production businesses companies.
To use this software so they can improve what it is that they're
doing. So it's developed three.
Good Buzz has developed because we came in here with the idea to
help period. We just wanted to fucking help.
I just wanted to smoke with cool people.
Connect with cool people and just talk about cannabis and
it's developed into something to where we now get your introduce
people to really cool stuff that's going on in the industry
like Bud for blood like Fairchild.
There's other things that are going on as well.
So, So it's it's been a really cool opportunity to build with
those two and it's turning into something much more than I
thought. I thought it would and becoming
sort of referral partners, and actual training arms for a
companies because we have the understanding of cannabis Daniel
working with Shango. There a fully integrated, he's
in that facility all day long. Understands its needs where it
has its Pain points and having him sort of being able to plug
in the software and completely understand how it can help is
everything. So you know we're going to be
able to make a big difference in this industry by helping with
that portion with some technology and stock lower
portions. So we're pretty excited to do
that, man. That's way.
Cool. That's how often do you do the
three? Good Buds, smoke sessions, once
a month. We did.
Once our last one was, at MJ B. Is it was relatively huge.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was actually really cool. We had a ton of people show up,
it ended up being all over LinkedIn and all over social
media and it was a really big kind of like family get-together
to be honest with you guys. I just realized it's 4:00 and I
have a hard stop. You're a good man good.
We is there anywhere that you need or any where people can
find your stuff anywhere? That you want to plug real fast?
Yeah, absolutely. So of course, Dustin Hawksworth
on LinkedIn, fat, nugs Magazine on LinkedIn.
Fat mugs. Mag.com is our website.
Instagram is, is fat underscore, nugs underscore mag.
So, yeah, Instagram that'll be in the show notes.
Awesome, definitely, appreciate it.
That's pretty much, that's pretty much everywhere.
And I'm I try to make myself available to as many people as
possible. So feel free to reach out.
You can always do DM me on LinkedIn.
I'm I kind of live there times. So yeah, I love to connect with
folks. So if anybody wants to connect,
I'm always open badass. Thank you so much.
Dustin for joining us, everybody, again, you'll get all
the show notes over there brother.
Thank you for doing what you're doing.
Appreciate your time and thank you guys.
Y'all have a great afternoon talk as well.