1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,800 I'm Brandon. And I'm. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,880 Jesse we're cannabis school having cannabis infused 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,200 conversations with everyday people, cannabis companies, 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,280 celebrities and your mom. Welcome to the sesh. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Some weird person hit me up on Facebook and they're like, hey, 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,680 how are you? And it sounded like some Asian 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,480 lady who's trying to scam me. Yeah, I love those. 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,760 Like, I had this one. Really funny. 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,080 You remember that one I told you about with the gold razor? 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,080 So I had this guy. He was trying to be, he had 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,479 hacked somebody that I was connected to on Facebook. 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,920 And some of these people are people that I knew in high 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,840 school, which I don't know in high school, I don't know. 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,960 I don't know these people. They're just kids in passing, 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,320 but they Remember Me, apparently. 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,440 So one of them reaches out to me one day and says, hey, I really 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,800 need help. Like I don't even remember this 18 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,280 person level. I'm like, what do you need? 19 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,120 I can't get my prescriptions. I'm like, OK, it's because I 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,560 just need some money and I'm like, all right, where's the 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,160 place? Like I'll go in, I'll pay for 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,840 them, I'll meet you there. And they're like, no, no, no, 23 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,280 just send me the money. And I'm like, this sounds 'cause 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,560 I have a sister recovering. Well, she's not a recovering 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,120 act. She's been an addict for, I'd 26 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:17,480 say about about 28 years, heroin, Xanax type. 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,400 That's her flavor. And, and I was like, yeah, this 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,840 sounds like somebody just trying to get money from me because 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 I've known this, these conversations with my sister all 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,040 the time. So I was just like, I don't know 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,120 about that. I was like, you know, what do 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,400 you need? And go, well, I just need to go 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,240 over there. I, I, I just need to get my 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,160 prescription. I'm like, OK, well, and she go, 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,680 but do you have any, can you send me like an Amazon gift 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,680 card? And I said, oh, I didn't know 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,280 pharmacies takes Amazon. They go, yeah, yeah, they take 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,640 them now. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. 39 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,760 So what do you need? They go, well, I need a gold 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,560 Razor Amazon gift card and I'm like, OK, so I look up a gold 41 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Razor, those scooters and I'm like, and I send a picture to 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,720 him. I said Kay, ordered it on the 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,920 way. Where do you want me to send it? 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,400 And they go no, no, I need a gold razor card. 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,400 I'm like, well, what am I going to do with this gold razor? 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,800 I don't need this. This is ridiculous. 47 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,120 I just spent all this money and they're like no, no, no, no, no. 48 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Like to return it and get me a gift card. 49 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,520 All right. What kind of gift card from 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,160 target? So your pharmacies at Target? 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,240 No, no, no, no, no. But I can use a target gift 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,320 card. I'm like, you can buy in Target, 53 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,080 you can buy that. That's crazy. 54 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,600 I got to tell my brother about this because he's got lots of 55 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,920 Target gift cards and he could be buying all of his 56 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:31,360 pharmaceuticals there. It's just like, no, just look, 57 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,920 just send me this. I'm like, all right, hold on. 58 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:37,160 Let me get this straight. And I went all the way back to I 59 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,640 pissed them off for so long and I screenshot of the whole thing 60 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:42,400 and I gave it to my kids and they were dying. 61 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,680 So now they love messing with anybody like that. 62 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,640 And I'm like, hey, somebody's trying to get a hold. 63 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:49,560 You guys want to talk to them and my daughter's like messaging 64 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,120 them and. Well, I mean, that's, you know, 65 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,400 when you when you mention that and this is going to be weird, 66 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,160 like this voice thing. Yeah, dude, no, it's weird. 67 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,480 I, I I try to like me too. They get used to, I'm sure. 68 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,720 You guys been, it took us years to, I mean, it's been yours. 69 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,960 Hearing everything in this room, like, Oh my gosh, it's Neko. 70 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,960 Like that's the one that's inside my head all the time. 71 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,320 You know. What I'm saying? 72 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:17,000 No, you did hit a like a couple of key points I think where you 73 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,960 know, the world, OK, is looking through a certain type of a 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:28,080 lens, right, that that that is all manipulation. 75 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,560 Yeah, right. Totally. 76 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,680 Are we not being manipulated 100%? 77 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,000 You know what I mean? You did mention there a little 78 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,840 bit about family members that might have been on, you know, 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,600 certain things and and people acting that same way. 80 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,200 That's The thing is that that vibration is real. 81 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Yeah, right. It is plaguing the earth that 82 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,360 we're we're walking on, right. Yeah. 83 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,200 I think those are the things, though, myself having a son, I 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,560 think we talked a little bit there. 85 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:06,480 You know, Logan. Logan went through a period of 86 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:12,040 his life where where he, you know, did some, you know, some 87 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,440 things, made some choices. And as a parent, we had to come 88 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:20,200 back and make that choice. I ended up in a situation where 89 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,960 when, you know, with him, where he was crying out to me asking 90 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:31,760 for for, you know, asking for money, asking for things that he 91 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,520 needed. And I had to boil it down to 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,760 this point of like, well, hey, if you need gas in your car and 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,480 you need food. Let me get that. 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Let me get that for you, you know, but you're not going to 95 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,120 take anything else from me and that boundary like you have to 96 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,960 put up. Is that really hard to to set? 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,640 That's a hard one. I mean, you're especially when, 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,240 you know, like if you come in and say, you know, that's my 99 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,400 child. Yeah. 100 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,280 And half of the trauma that he's dealing with right now might be 101 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,360 because of you. Yeah, and that's a hard 102 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,720 realization too, of like, crap. Am I like, is this because of 103 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,520 me? Am I helping or hindering? 104 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Like am I enabling this or am I you know? 105 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,760 Well, exactly. And you stop and you look at 106 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,960 like, you know, the scams that even go on with the elderly. 107 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,040 Oh, big time. Right. 108 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,320 And how even families take care of, I mean, taking advantage of 109 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,400 their own, you know, just the elderly in different things, 110 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,480 right. So it this same thing is 111 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,280 happening in all kinds of circles. 112 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,080 You. Know all kinds of things and we 113 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:40,040 do have family you know that that that we'd have to sit back 114 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,120 and watch. Are we learning lessons? 115 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,120 Of course we are, right. And we learned, we tried, we 116 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,960 know, we got to set up our boundaries, we got to put our 117 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,800 place in it. And so that's what you're doing. 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,240 And, and, and to be able to have, you know, at least the 119 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:54,360 insight to be able to see into that and that that there is a 120 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,120 scam and there is somebody trying to, you know, and to try 121 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,320 to work that, you know, that thing like, sorry, you, you just 122 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,920 can't con me here. You know, that's the funny part. 123 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Well, and that's the thing too, like you know, when in talking 124 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,960 about your boy and talking about my sister, you know, the the 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,720 difficulty is I, I used to get really mad like this is you 126 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,240 against them. But the only thing is, is that 127 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,480 we we all have the opportunity to be able to obtain vices, 128 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,520 right? We obtain them. 129 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,920 We don't seek them out. We just get them. 130 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,840 We pick them up like like with the keys or, you know, dog shit 131 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:31,000 on your shoe. It's not, it's not saying that 132 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 one's less than the other. We just pick these things up and 133 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,480 sometimes they stick and sometimes they don't. 134 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,880 And I've known a lot of people like, you know, throughout my 135 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,480 time after my service in the Navy, I got out, I went crazy, 136 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,160 was just hanging out doing, I mean, if somebody handed me a 137 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,920 drug, I would do it. The only, only place I was like, 138 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,000 here's the line is heroin. I'm like, I don't touch it just 139 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,280 because I've seen too much. But everything else, bring it 140 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:57,560 on. And throughout that process, 141 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,720 like knowing that I don't need that. 142 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,400 I don't want that, I don't want that. 143 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,640 I mean I hurt my shoulder a long time ago and dude it was during 144 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,840 the big opiate push with lots of surgeons and I have not had 145 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,440 that. Orthopedic surgeon did. 146 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,400 I had a script of 30 lower tabs 7 point fives every Friday 147 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,560 filled every week. Every week I had it filled and I 148 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,320 was in, I thought it was like, it was awesome. 149 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,320 Like I come home from work and I'm I'm going to pop a few pills 150 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,440 and I'm going to clean my apartment with my buddy. 151 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Like that's all we would do. I just get high and do that. 152 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,840 But it was just this feeling. I'm like, I don't like this. 153 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,160 And then what pushed it was I just like, you know, I should 154 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,800 ask him to see if I can get more. 155 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,640 So I said, hey, these seven fives aren't doing anything. 156 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,600 He's like all up at the 10. So I'm getting thirty 10s every 157 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,080 Friday. But my body was just like, it's 158 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,480 like eating like lots of fast food. 159 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,280 You're just like, I really need a home cooked meal. 160 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,080 This is just not good. And I just stopped. 161 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,600 But I kept picking up the scripts and I would put them in 162 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,760 a box and I'm like, maybe I can use them someday, but I don't 163 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,240 need them. And then somebody broke in our 164 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,360 apartment, one of our friends, and he stole it and left me a 165 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,800 check for $1500. He's like, hey, man, thanks a 166 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,920 lot. And I'm like, I'm not talking to 167 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,000 you ever. You stole it from me. 168 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,280 You could have just asked me and I and I would have told you, I 169 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,000 don't want you to do that. But there's a lot of people out 170 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,600 there that all they need to do is try it a few times. 171 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,200 And they're just like, I like this feeling because I can 172 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,760 escape who I am. And that's the hard thing to to 173 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,799 think about to realize because I don't feel that way on cannabis. 174 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,559 It's not usually trying to escape yourself with cannabis. 175 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,000 No, you, you're more Hans. Perspective, you're more 176 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,880 focused, you're more like analytical of or hyper 177 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,520 analytical of yourself and versus like, you know, most of 178 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,920 the other drugs where you like I said, it's numbing and 179 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,840 disassociative and you're like, oh cool. 180 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,440 Well, it's way different feeling than connecting. 181 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,920 No. And and then that's, I mean, I 182 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,200 think that, you know, on, on we're all on a journey. 183 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,680 He'll he'll, he'll me say that, probably. 184 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:10,840 A lot, yeah. No, we're on a journey. 185 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,200 You know, you touched on, I touched on having family members 186 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,520 that that tried harder drugs, right? 187 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:24,600 And I think that's that reality, You know, for myself especially, 188 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,840 you know, coming from the culture that we live in, from, 189 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,960 you know, the, you know, growing up in Salt Lake, you know, the 190 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:39,680 LDS church, we can put, you know, so many different things 191 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,360 in, in, in, in just where we live. 192 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,200 And the hurdles that we had to jump out, you know, jump through 193 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:52,320 of just the families and the and and and the disconnection that 194 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,000 is really kind of, you know, going kind of rapid everywhere, 195 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,240 you know, rampant, I guess I'd say. 196 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did the same thing like, 197 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,040 you know, my, my father was an alcoholic, OK, my mother 198 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,520 medicated with cannabis. It, you know, I mean, a a lot 199 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,560 pretty good 16 or whatever. It kind of started this journey, 200 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,040 right? And, you know, she would drink, 201 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,960 she would do other things, but she was just a cannabis girl. 202 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,880 And I mean, even to this day, that's that. 203 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,680 I mean, that's mom. She's still medication. 204 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,320 That's awesome. You know, so do you guys have 205 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,440 sessions together? You know, we have not. 206 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,040 So here's kind of that. I mean, here's kind of this 207 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,120 thing. It's been this sounds. 208 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,240 You have to. And before we get into that, 209 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,880 today's session is actually brought to you by Beehive 210 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Gardens, Beehive Brands. Yeah, what's strange? 211 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,320 Jeremy brought us this beautiful. 212 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,440 So nice. So in this is what I've I've got 213 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,720 to figure out, it says Buzz, lemon sherbert and Chemdog. 214 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,040 So I'm wondering if it's like a hybrid of all of those or if 215 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,920 it's just lemon sherbert and Chemdog and Buzz is just what 216 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,400 their label beginning. Is their buzz, is their label. 217 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,000 I think yeah, OK, cool. It's the beehive. 218 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,880 It says Buzz right on the other. Side dude, that's awesome. 219 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,040 I like that. That's pretty cool. 220 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 And you know, this is cool 'cause this is like, we haven't 221 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,400 tried a lot of other Utah strings because we've been so 222 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,800 partial to Dragonfly one. It's because their quality is 223 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,960 super high. And then two, I've just, we just 224 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,320 haven't had a relationship with any of the other ones, so. 225 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,400 I mean, but I will, I will say this lemon Sherburton chem dog 226 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,120 smells delicious. Yeah, it smells great. 227 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,160 It looks. Well, it's really frosty to me. 228 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,760 Look at that. Like whole. 229 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Green, you guys need to understand like for me with when 230 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,560 it comes to flower, I'm just been kind of a vape car guy. 231 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,360 Yeah, it's so much easier. For yeah, I mean, but that's but 232 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,600 that's the smell. I mean, there's a things that 233 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,240 kind of come with this where and I do. 234 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,240 That's the best part right there, just smelling it. 235 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,320 Right. Isn't it though? 236 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,320 I mean just to smell the flower. Yeah, so, well, that's so we had 237 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,680 a guy on back before the sash ever it happened. 238 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:02,600 A guy called, his thing was the gentleman Toker or Joe Turney, 239 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,880 and he always said the nose, nose. 240 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,200 And we talked about that like if you you have a bunch of strains 241 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,840 or you're going and can actually check them out, like smell it, 242 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,360 your body will tell you it'll go, yeah, this really smells 243 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,760 good to you. It's like pheromones, like the 244 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,240 right strain is going to be attracted to you, right? 245 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:20,800 Right. Oh. 246 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,320 Dude that's so good. What's? 247 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,200 It smells delicious. Sorry, I closed that. 248 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,960 No thanks a lot. Yeah, I was like, that's what I 249 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,520 always do, is just like push it against it sideways. 250 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,040 So I mean, I do have to like back in the back in my early 251 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,440 days, back in my 20s and even before that I, I did, I did 252 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,840 partake of a lot of cannabis flour. 253 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,840 I used to dabble in in distribution of it at one point 254 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,920 in my life. That's right. 255 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,240 You told us about that. Actually, I wanted to go into 256 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,800 that because it's such a cool pass to get you up to where you 257 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,120 are right now. And, and one of the things that 258 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,560 I really want to be able to give. 259 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,320 Well, one of the things we want to give that our audience is 260 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,320 that you, we have the crazy story of how this happened. 261 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:14,360 This is nuts. And how Jesse met Jeremy. 262 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,080 Yeah, and, and I'm going to tell the first part and I want Jenny 263 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Jeremy to finish the last part 'cause that was the coolest 264 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,080 part. So we have a, a mutual friend 265 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,520 and, and you guys have heard me talk about 12 Shapes. 12 Shapes 266 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,280 has changed my life. And you know, we were, we had a, 267 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,480 we had a pop tire. I was meeting up with this lady, 268 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,800 her name is Kim Giles, the founder of 12 Shapes. 269 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,680 We're meeting up in the morning for breakfast and some business 270 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:45,280 stuff. Her tire pops and she's like, I 271 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,080 got to pull over. She pulls into a parking lot, 272 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,680 parks, there she goes. I know where it is. 273 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,600 Gets an Uber, meets us for breakfast, 'cause I was 274 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,680 introducing this woman, We're going to build a fundraiser for 275 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:59,280 this nonprofit that she has. And she's like, hey, look like, 276 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,680 you know, they go, we're going to split it into three checks 277 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:10,080 and I forgot my debit card. So I'm like, hey, why don't you 278 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,280 give me my breakfast and, and I'll get you back. 279 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,040 And she goes, no, no, no, actually, why don't you drive me 280 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,520 over to my car and that will cover it. 281 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,400 And I'm like, all right, fair enough. 282 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:20,320 Right. So that's the first sign. 283 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Like things are supposed to go this way. 284 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,680 And then we drive there and as we're driving there, she goes, 285 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,680 oh, off on 33rd. So I get off on on 33rd South up 286 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,280 in Salt Lake City. And then we pull and she goes, 287 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,360 oh, it's at this golf course. I'm like, oh, OK, get out, go 288 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,960 over there. And I'm thinking, OK, well, 289 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,560 let's I'll help you change your tires. 290 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,960 She's like, no, you probably have somewhere to be. 291 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,160 And I always say like, doesn't matter what's going on. 292 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,960 I'm like, you know, I'm supposed to be where I'm supposed to be. 293 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,440 And right now I'm supposed to be here. 294 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,680 So whatever's going to happen is going to happen. 295 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,440 She goes, but you probably got meetings and stuff. 296 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,680 I'm like, doesn't matter. I'm supposed to be here, so I'm 297 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:55,840 trying to help figure out the tire. 298 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,600 That tire was fucked. It was driving me nuts. 299 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,160 It's a Jeep. If you own a Jeep, fuck Jeep. 300 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Because I'll tell you why these weird assholes are like, they're 301 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,680 like Saab and and Volkswagen. The lug nuts are not they're 302 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,000 they're not lug nuts. They're lug bolts. 303 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Oh, and they go right. In they go right into the rotor 304 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,720 and it's just a pain in the ass and nothing's fitting it and I'm 305 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,240 trying to get it off and all I find is this like and I I come 306 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,200 back and there's this there's a guy in the back and he's in this 307 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,120 like mechanic shop for golf carts and and he's pushing the 308 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,520 broom around and and you know he's just sweeping it up and I'm 309 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,520 like this guy's going to think I'm a Jag off, but I'm going to 310 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,640 come up and say hi to him anyways. 311 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Hey man, how's it going? I said look, I need a little bit 312 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,040 of help. Do you have like a like a? 313 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Ratchet or a? Wrench, I need to get this 314 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,400 little bolt off because I thought this little bolt was 315 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,560 holding the spare tire. Yeah, but it turns out, and 316 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Jeremy came over and confirmed it. 317 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,000 He's like lever. No, they just put a pump in 318 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,440 there. What? 319 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,440 The all the new cars and you, you're listening and you're 320 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,160 like, yeah, my car has got one of those too. 321 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,000 But a pump, it's just an it's an electric. 322 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Pump and I'm just having to confirm this 100% because I just 323 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,040 my my daughter has the same car. Yeah, yeah, he was telling us 324 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,360 about. That it does not have a spare 325 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,720 tire. And so we go back to the 326 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,840 dealership of like, hey, I don't have a spare tire. 327 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,240 They literally hand her like a pump and said, here it is. 328 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,800 And so an air pump. Yeah, an air pump, right? 329 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,280 Oh, just to pump up your tire, but. 330 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,480 Hundred, 100%. So you're sitting there going, 331 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,680 OK, well, this is simple if you're anywhere else, right? 332 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,000 If you're anywhere else, this might work. 333 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,400 Except where we were, right? Oh my. 334 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:47,760 Gosh, The the the tire had what did what did? 335 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:54,200 Yeah, got him the the tire. It was we all I thought was this 336 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,920 is what I had in my internal monologue. 337 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,520 I'm like, well fuck me now I'm just going to have depression 338 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,520 when I'm trying to pump up my tire and it just keeps leaking 339 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,480 air. I'm like, this is like an insult 340 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,040 to injury. Oh, so it was a really big hole. 341 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,160 Oh dude, there was a big gash in there. 342 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,760 It was like a Jeremy found. Cause Jeremy's like, oh, I've 343 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,880 got a, I've got a pump and I'll bring it over. 344 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,319 There's a little teeny compressor. 345 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:20,000 He starts filling up it's and he's like, yeah, that you're 346 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,000 going to have to get that replaced. 347 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,680 Going out as fast as it's going in, yeah. 348 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,240 He tells us this little tire place in Salt Lake and they were 349 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,120 the coolest. Nobody's there. 350 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,280 It was like travelling back in time. 351 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,680 We never showed you, but you just push that white part down. 352 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Oh yeah, dude, yeah, we didn't. See that leather? 353 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,960 The white part just pushes down. Push on it Told you guys I'm a 354 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,120 rookie. No, no, no, no. 355 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:42,680 You're good. We're a rookie. 356 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,000 So this is. How you clear it? 357 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,080 You don't have to pull the ball out though. 358 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. 359 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,440 It like kind of cool. This is like high tech. 360 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,560 Yeah, it's a indestructible bong, this is. 361 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,760 I love that it's water. I mean back in the day that was 362 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,280 like water. Bong was the way, dude. 363 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,680 This way here real quick, we're going to put a pause on the 364 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,040 story. I want you to take a hit and I 365 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,120 want you to go when you when you clear it, it's the smoothest hit 366 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:06,880 from any bong we've ever tried. This was sent to us and it sat 367 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,880 in my closet for six. Months we didn't even touch it 368 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,480 because we were like, oh we got a ton of shit. 369 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,000 This isn't our favorite looking one. 370 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,360 And then we tried it out one episode and it was like, Oh my 371 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:16,960 God, this is the best piece ever. 372 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,920 This is the only one we use on the show, yeah. 373 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,240 OK, well let's give this. A yeah, yeah, yeah. 374 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,800 So light it, but. Yeah. 375 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,040 Start pulling and then when you clear it, that's that's the cool 376 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,160 part that was cool we. Didn't even tell you. 377 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:35,000 I was like, yeah, but you don't have to pull the top. 378 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,280 Like pull the bowl out or? Anything. 379 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,240 No, dude. And it's so clean. 380 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,520 Plus you got yeah, yeah, no, let it fill a little bit like, well, 381 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,480 everybody on who's listening saying. 382 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,720 Go, go, go, go. No, don't pull. 383 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,120 Don't pull the carb yet. Pull it to fill it. 384 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,160 Oh, after you fill it. So let it fill and then push the 385 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,400 carb down and it'll. It'll just clear. 386 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:58,480 Sorry, now it's loading it. Up a little, there you go. 387 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,840 Now, now go go ahead and and start pulling and then push it 388 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,120 down. I guess you could let your 389 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,960 breath out if there you. Go. 390 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,960 There you go. Yeah. 391 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,920 For. Everybody, it's a smooth hit 392 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,720 that. Is nice. 393 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,720 Isn't it these this? You can taste everything. 394 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,280 It's a it's a it's pretty, it's a super small company. 395 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,720 Yeah, it's like a one man band almost. 396 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,760 But this is the best bong. And he's like, yeah, I'll send 397 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,880 you guys out another one. And then that never happened 398 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,040 because? He's super busy. 399 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,640 So busy. But the cool thing is, is that 400 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,880 people been going and getting it. 401 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,520 Like that's cool 'cause it is. It's heavy. 402 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:44,000 And this is their smallest one. That's the, that's the extra 403 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,080 small. The other ones are massive. 404 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,320 They're so cool but so clean. Yeah, my cousin bought like 405 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,160 their large one. It's about that tall, I think. 406 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:56,080 The bowls are just perfect, you can't clean it with anything 407 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,440 except ISO. Back in the back in the good old 408 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,880 days we had a A4 foot bong. Oh yeah. 409 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,720 And. It's name was King Louie. 410 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,120 Oh, that's beautiful. King Louie had a buddy. 411 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,840 Jeff Stillman had this big old, I mean, it was King Louie and it 412 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,920 man. So let me ask you, because 413 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,400 you've been in the cannabis, around cannabis, it sounds like 414 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,880 your entire life, yes. What do you notice in the 415 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,000 difference of quality between when you first entered into 416 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,040 cannabis? Oh yeah. 417 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:27,880 'Cause I mean you. You. 418 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,480 Notice a difference? Yeah, you're an old. 419 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,320 You're an OGI AM. I am an OG but it sounds like 420 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,840 you. Ran in some good solid. 421 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:37,360 The thing was is I mean. Kush was kush then though. 422 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,280 Kush was kush, but see you know when it when it get back into 423 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:46,080 the roots like I and I, I used like my father was my father was 424 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,160 he was very big into cannabis through the 90s. 425 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:59,880 He ran a distribution ring out of Juarez, Mexico for the 426 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:06,600 Aguirre organization that trafficked cannabis throughout 427 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,480 the United States. My father was instrumental in in 428 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,720 building the illegal compartments in. 429 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:22,080 Transportation. Transportation, yeah. 430 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,120 He had an opportunity that came before him and he, he did his 431 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,560 best at it. And so through, you know, my 432 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,400 teenage years, it was kind of a, a big part of our lives. 433 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,360 It kind of controlled, you know, a lot of our life. 434 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:40,880 Dude, let's go into that actually. 435 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,040 So we're going to put a pin in my story because that's actually 436 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,240 going to go really well towards the end, and I'm glad we're 437 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,680 pausing it. Jeremy's story is so cool and 438 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,800 unique. Let's start with that. 439 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,680 Like, talk about how early was that in your life? 440 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,240 Your dad's doing this. What what was that like? 441 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,160 What was life like during that time for you and your family? 442 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,120 And what did you know? And then what did you realize 443 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,360 later on? Well, the big thing was is like 444 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:14,000 cannabis in my world was, you know, I having all the wake 100% 445 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,160 confirmed it with mom, but it could have been used in the in 446 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,720 the womb. OK, maybe that's a conversation 447 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,560 we have to. Have so you're imprinted early. 448 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,440 So I'm imprinted early in my DNA strand, OK. 449 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,840 You already knew from the start. I was I I already came out of 450 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,240 the womb like needing a Jones and just like, right, I mean, 451 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,960 that's. That's just going sideways. 452 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,040 And I hope and I hope mom don't like, like, Take Me Out like 453 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,560 that, but that's OK. That's awesome. 454 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,120 She was still a cool mom. I mean, of course she would grow 455 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:47,440 cannabis in the backyard amongst the tomato plants. 456 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,160 And where was this? This is in Sandy, UT. 457 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,520 Dude right here in Sandy. Utah Coca-Cola. 458 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,200 I grew up in the same house my whole life. 459 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:06,200 Yeah, went to Mid Valley Elementary School, went to Union 460 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,520 Middle School and I should have been, I should have attended 461 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,880 Hillcrest High School. Kind. 462 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,800 Of had to either Hillcrest or Jordan but was more the 463 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Hillcrest side. But at this little point in 464 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:27,120 time, I ended up 9th grade year down in a small town in southern 465 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,600 Utah called Enterprise, UT. Yeah, we're aware of that one, 466 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,720 OK. How was that making that change 467 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,840 as like a freshman? As a freshman, it was so it was 468 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,960 so hard because I'm coming out. Oh yeah. 469 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,800 I mean, and I mean, I'm getting, I'm getting pulled out of a 470 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,160 lifestyle because my, my parents are getting a divorce is 471 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,200 happening right here. They're splitting the weed. 472 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,480 They're splitting the weed. And dad is no, they are. 473 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,640 I mean, they're literally said and he's down and out. 474 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,880 I mean, there's some things happening and he gets this 475 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,320 cannabis company handed to him, right? 476 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,000 So. Here some Walter White. 477 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,480 On a silver platter on. A on a silver, literally on a 478 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,280 silver platter. So you run it here. 479 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,920 You run it and you do it because you're the white guy, right? 480 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,880 And I, I don't mean to throw that in there, but this is. 481 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,920 'Cause it was a bunch of panic. Well. 482 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:17,760 I'm not we. I'm not we. 483 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,600 We understand, We understand. Yeah, don't worry, I. 484 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,120 I was not that. There's no racial nothing. 485 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,800 Here not rather one of my hey. I just had to give you and I 486 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,280 see. That though? 487 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,080 Come on. If you listen to no, no, he's 488 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,320 just fucking with me. And, and the whole thing is 489 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,880 like, know that like I, I literally am color blind. 490 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,640 I only see people's behaviors. Yeah, and, and their behaviors 491 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,800 are language and that's all I want to speak. 492 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,320 I don't give a fuck where they're from or what you look 493 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,960 like. Like here's an example. 494 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,080 My brother-in-law, he's from, he's from Nigeria, right? 495 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:54,200 And he is black. Like, you know, like the two 496 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,280 blackest guys back in the day in the 90s in Hollywood, Eddie 497 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,280 Murphy and Wesley Snipes, right? Nobody was blacker. 498 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,360 Except for this. Guy. 499 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:03,080 Yeah. And this guy's really bite. 500 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,280 And so we go to Lava Hot Springs for a family vacation and he's 501 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,920 new. He he married in, he married my 502 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,080 sister-in-law, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. 503 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,600 Well, actually it was like in February. 504 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Yeah, it was good. Yeah. 505 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,040 About five. Yeah, a little bit a little 506 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,040 while ago. And he's just not really social 507 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,800 and he's a little, I'm leaning towards he's on the spectrum 508 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,320 because I, I'm, I know a lot about the spectrum. 509 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,320 I've been dealing with it for 14, not dealing with it, but 510 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,640 learning about it and living with it for 14 years with my 511 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,720 son. And I just wanted to mess with 512 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,640 him because he never laughs. So he get up there and he's 513 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,760 like, and I said, oh, hey, I didn't think you were because he 514 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,440 surprised his wife. He said he wasn't coming. 515 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,880 Then he came up OK, very unlike him. 516 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,920 But he gets up there and I'm like, I really was looking 517 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,320 forward to not being here. And he's like, what do you mean 518 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,360 by that? And I'm like, well, because, I 519 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,920 mean, I came up here to work on my tan and how am I supposed to 520 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,920 compete with you? And he starts laughing and he 521 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720 goes, I do not have a tan. I'm like, yeah, you do. 522 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,920 I was like, I was going to come over here going, what's your 523 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,880 secret, Crisco? Like you just rub that shit all 524 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,160 over your skin. He goes, why would I put Crisco 525 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,240 on my skin? I'm like, I love this. 526 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,160 I love that autism side of it. And I'm just like, of course I 527 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,320 was like, Nah, Nah. But he was laughing. 528 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,840 He's like, and he kept laughing. And the reason why I was 529 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,480 laughing, it was illogical to him. 530 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,720 He's like, but I am from Africa and I'm black and, and it was 531 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,520 just so funny. And he and I said, do you care 532 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,200 about this? He goes your arm. 533 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,960 I was like, yes. He's like, I mean, I don't know 534 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,520 what you mean. I said, 'cause I don't see your 535 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,720 colour, dude. I'm not, I'm not trying to 536 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,920 change to be like you. I don't need to. 537 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,960 And I said it's just people. Amen. 538 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,240 And he's just like, yeah, So I, I will frequently say a lot of 539 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,280 racist shit. And it's all in fun because I 540 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,640 grew up with racism. I, I didn't know it was racism. 541 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,840 I just thought people like picking fights with me. 542 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,600 And I was training in martial arts. 543 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,440 So I'm like, well, OK, kind of makes sense, right? 544 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,400 Maybe God's doing this right. Right, right. 545 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,640 God's like. You will learn how to fight to 546 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,680 hurt these, these other people. And like, all right, I mean, God 547 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,880 said so. But going through all that whole 548 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,440 process, I didn't understand racism. 549 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,880 I really didn't like, I just thought it was cool. 550 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720 There was one black kid in my school. 551 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,560 I went to Mountain View High. Like we're close to the same 552 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,080 age. How? 553 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,000 How old are you? I'll be 50 this year. 554 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,400 Yeah, so I'm five years younger. I would not have guessed, no. 555 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,960 He knows. So what would you say though? 556 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,000 I would say you're about my age or younger and you're, yeah, I'm 557 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,640 40. Five. 558 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Yeah, I was like 4445, maybe I. Get 43 a a lot and maybe 2 to 40 559 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,560 and I'm like oh sweet. No, it's I'm like. 560 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,160 I've got grandkids, guys. I've got grandkids that's. 561 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,360 How old is your? How old's your youngest? 562 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,560 My youngest is 22. Holy. 563 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:52,960 Cow. Wow. 564 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,480 I mean, I'm just on the verge of empty nesting. 565 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Yeah, that's wild. Wow, is how is that? 566 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,560 That's wild. Like going from you said you had 567 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,960 three kids. I've got three boys, six 568 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,480 children. 06 children just in the conversation. 569 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,000 I only have five that I know of. Well, because that's. 570 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,520 What we got to the story? Yeah, that's where we're at in 571 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,640 the story. So, yeah, Crazy, man. 572 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Six kids. It just it this is the cool. 573 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,120 This is the cool source. OK, I'm going to stop it there, 574 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:19,320 but rewind. Yeah, see, this is really good. 575 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,400 I was going to say. It's not. 576 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,520 I mean this is like the calming. Yeah, it's super calm. 577 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,280 It's relaxed. I mean, if I have to cook, I 578 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,560 mean like like vibrationally it's good. 579 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,400 Like it's just a. Good. 580 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,640 Yeah. You give us your review. 581 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Seriously. Give us your review. 582 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,960 This is awesome. What do you what do you like 583 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,400 about it? Where are you feeling it 'cause 584 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,240 I feel it all over. I've got it in my my elbows, in 585 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,840 my arms, my toes. I think I mean, am I? 586 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,720 Yeah. That he mentions. 587 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,480 It I mean, is that not like the part though, when you finally, I 588 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,600 mean, how long did it take you to be able to feel your toes 589 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800 though in line? I mean think about it like to. 590 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,720 I mean to. Are we talking about when I was 591 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,080 in Inception or I don't know. I'm saying, you know, like to be 592 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,400 able. To I was in the womb, I was 593 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,040 doing. I can feel my toes. 594 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,680 I can feel my toes. I don't know. 595 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,840 No no seriously because I have I have diabetic neuropathy and the 596 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,920 medicine has been taking away but it still tingles a little 597 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,200 bit but I know exactly what you mean. 598 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Like it literally makes my feet feel warm. 599 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,280 It wasn't until I did meditations with cannabis that I 600 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,040 started to notice because I would do meditating like a 601 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,360 little bit before I really got back into cannabis. 602 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,720 And then I just like when I noticed, when I would meditate, 603 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840 that's what I would notice all throughout my body more. 604 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,640 But that's because I was finally becoming present, yes. 605 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040 And a lot of my other times I was way too anxious and stuck in 606 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,720 my head and all this other stuff. 607 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,280 So I wasn't allowing myself to just be present, didn't feel 608 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,280 everything. So. 609 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,240 Well, and I so, so, so that's the part like people like, oh, 610 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,720 you're, you know, you're 50 or whatever. 611 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,120 I'm going, there's a little, it's hard to be able to tell the 612 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,800 people of like what cannabis really, you know, can do for 613 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,520 you, right. And when you do slow down to 614 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,760 those states, I've been able to get into a few little 615 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880 mindfulness where I'm trying to heal my body, right? 616 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,160 But the only way that I can heal my body is to heal the internal 617 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,560 self, right? And once you are mindful of 618 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,520 that, then you can start healing your body, yeah. 619 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,720 Right, because like there's all these things that talk about 620 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,160 like the body keep the score or, you know, it hangs. 621 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,680 On to your memories. And all these other things and. 622 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,840 Those books are amazing. I mean, I and, and you come and 623 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,920 go, OK, when you finally learn that and say, OK, I'm going to, 624 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640 I'm going to start doing this right. 625 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,440 I'm going to start taking care of myself. 626 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,680 I was 305 lbs. What? 627 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,320 I was 305 lbs. I would never have guessed. 628 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,120 You look fantastic, 100. And 85 now, right? 629 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,200 But again, a journey that you can have, but until you love 630 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,240 yourself enough, you can't reverse anything. 631 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,000 You can't even manifest that you want to be. 632 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,920 Healed. You want to be healed. 633 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,480 Right, you don't even know. You don't even know. 634 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160 Yeah, but if you don't know how to feel your toes. 635 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,520 Yeah, right. How can you heal your feet? 636 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,360 Well, or or if you can see them. Yeah, but I mean it's. 637 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,360 Right. Right, that's a struggle too. 638 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,760 Yeah, You know, like, I mean, that's the thing like nobody 639 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,960 thinks about, like a good friend of ours, Bennett Maxwell. 640 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,440 Do you know Bennett? I do not. 641 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,720 OK, but that's got to happen because you guys will get along 642 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,600 great. Bennett owns Dirty Dough Cookie. 643 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,840 OK. And you know, Bennett was around 644 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,280 about that, but he he he's no, he was, he was 310 lbs. 645 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040 And now he's 200 lbs. He's he's a. 646 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,520 Big guy. He's a pretty muscular guy. 647 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:49,400 He's solid, 200, maybe 195, but I was around 2/25, 2:30 at my 648 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,720 heaviest. But at for me it was, I didn't 649 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,360 think I was heavy. You'd like when you were heavy. 650 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,960 You don't. It's just you. 651 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,000 It, it was just me and I think that's the, that's the part 652 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,200 where, you know, I pushed myself all the way to, to type 2 653 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,760 diabetes. I'm there. 654 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:16,240 High blood pressure Yep. I mean I was taken ever like 655 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480 having to take everything. I mean I, I, I did not know who 656 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,400 I was. What was that switch? 657 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,960 What changed? Suffering, right? 658 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:33,480 I mean, cool, because there was a point where I did, you know, 659 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,160 and then this is the crazy part when you're like trying to put 660 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,200 loving yourself a little bit. And you know, I ended up, you 661 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,160 know, at my doctor, you know, like they trusted, right. 662 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880 And we got down because I had somebody tell me, Hey, you might 663 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,880 be ADHD, right? And I'm working at a pretty high 664 00:32:52,880 --> 00:33:00,280 level volume job. I'm general manager of Multi 665 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360 $1,000,000. Basic. 666 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,120 Fabrication company, OK oil field and gas and then and 667 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,160 mining a lot of stuff in gold mines. 668 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,160 That's cool, we have a lot of mines here surprisingly. 669 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,800 Oh, yes, since I've worked in quite a few of them, did a lot 670 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,000 up in in Kennicott, a lot of the salt mines, different things, 671 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,120 but kind of doing that stuff, yeah. 672 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,000 That's really. Cool, but along that journey, is 673 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,880 that that part of, you know, loving yourself enough? 674 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,560 I had was trying to listen to individuals that were actually, 675 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,080 you know, trying to, I guess to get me to be better, right, 676 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,760 because I wasn't producing enough, you know, I'd, I'd, I'd 677 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,920 kind of, but man, I was, you know, very heavy. 678 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,560 You know, they were even trying to get me to the CrossFit gym, 679 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,880 you know, as we going to the CrossFit gym, you know, they 680 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,760 were trying but said, Hey, you might be ADHD. 681 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,040 Go, go check it out. You know, and I didn't 682 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,440 understand, you know, OK, maybe I will. 683 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,080 And so, you know, made a point with my doctor. 684 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,760 We went in, we sat down, I said, hey, the couple of people are 685 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,560 telling you might be ADHD. And I took his test. 686 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,480 He ran through the model and this is a guy I trusted. 687 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,080 I mean, he's like, he's like state president the guy latest. 688 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:20,800 I mean, there's a bunch of things, you know, just growing 689 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,480 up here in Utah, I mean, there's certain things without that 690 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,679 relationship where you think that, you know, you're trusted. 691 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,159 And I trusted the guy and I'm like, hey, I even trusted the 692 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,480 guy that told me, hey, you might be ADHD, right? 693 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,760 Yeah. So I go, I get the medication, 694 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,800 right. And I, I remember like the first 695 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,360 time I'm sitting in the, in the in Birch family Pharmacy, out in 696 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,880 the, out in the, the pharmacy there, dude. 697 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,440 And I'm like opening up this bag going, OK, what's what's this 698 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,880 going to do to me right now? Right. 699 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,080 And not knowing and, and, and, and I am, I'm, I'm fat. 700 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,360 I'm I'm at my wit's end, like and and here I am getting having 701 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,600 a boss telling me I'm not producing when we just, you 702 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,800 know. Yeah, make you feel like. 703 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,560 That we, we just told and we just sold, you know, $30 million 704 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600 worth of mining equipment, right? 705 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040 And like, it's still not enough, right? 706 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,720 And I'm trying and his only thing is, hey, go get on some 707 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,520 ADHD medication. And so I think, well, Dang, OK, 708 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,680 I'll go do that, right? Let me go see my trusted Dr. 709 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,240 tells me here, this is what you need. 710 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,760 So I'm sitting in that farming pharmacy parking lot and I open 711 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,840 it up and I-10 milligram pill, right? 712 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,600 And I'm like, I don't think I need that much. 713 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,480 Maybe I because I didn't even know what Adderall did, to be 714 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,840 honest, to the honest engine stuff. 715 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,800 Like my kids had one son that was on some at one time and I 716 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,000 didn't know what it did, right. And so I'm like, OK, well, maybe 717 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,840 it's good. And here I am, like 40 years old 718 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,680 and finally realizing that I might be ADHD. 719 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Like, OK, I've ran some pretty, pretty successful businesses 720 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,840 that I've done, you know, stuff and I've travelled the world. 721 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,040 But like, but yeah, maybe that had something to do with it. 722 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,440 I don't know, but I finally like, OK, let me take this 723 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,760 medicine. So I talk and I and I and I pop 724 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,040 it and I'm like, OK, it's not working. 725 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,120 And wait there about 10 more minutes and OK, and I put the 726 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,480 car in reverse and I go to leave the parking lot and it kicks in 727 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,640 as I'm driving down the road, like right. 728 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,960 And I'm like, holy shit. This is like what it used to 729 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,760 feel like when I was on Wii. Really. 730 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:31,640 It literally lit me up. It literally hit some neutrons. 731 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,880 It hit whatever the ping and the dopamine that it opened up was 732 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,120 the right receptor because I at this time I was also on Zoloft, 733 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,200 OK, I'm like 100 milligrams of Zoloft, 30 milligrams, whatever 734 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,560 it was at the time. And I've tried everyone in the 735 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,880 book in this 20 year period, right? 736 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,040 Because I'm trying to you know that hard thing. 737 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:55,280 It was because of my faith, OK, along this journey because you 738 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,440 know, you had to fit in the kind of a box a little bit of what I 739 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,920 was doing. Who you are? 740 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,640 Who I am or? Present to be. 741 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,840 And present to be. And I had to keep it in this 742 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,680 little box. And that was kind of like my 743 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,400 reality of like, well, I'm doing it and I'm, I'm checking all the 744 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,040 boxes, right? I'm checking them all. 745 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,800 And you know, what kind of came to this, you know, realization 746 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,000 of like, well, as long as I'm doing it by the book, it's OK. 747 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,760 Yeah. And so 5 milligrams turned into 748 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:33,440 10 milligrams, 10 milligrams turned into 20 milligrams, 749 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,960 right. My shit started getting in 750 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,320 check. I ended up at the CrossFit gym. 751 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,040 I ended up starting to lose weight. 752 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,600 My house was Immaculate. My garage was perfect. 753 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,520 I did not have a flower that was out of place in the garden. 754 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,200 I had all of my stuff was so in check and I was booming, 755 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,960 booming. And I was chasing for more. 756 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,400 I was chasing. I was going to OK, but is it got 757 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,120 to be like 4050 milligrams a day? 758 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,480 Yep. And I'm hiding all this, though, 759 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,800 from even my wife. I, I mean, at least, you know, I 760 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,480 had the prescription. She didn't know I'm taking as 761 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,400 much as I was. And I've gone back to the doctor 762 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,840 a couple of times and up the dose. 763 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,560 Just saying, hey, you know what, I'd kind of found a way just 764 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,720 around it. And he, we just had such a trust 765 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:19,080 factor with each other that it didn't, it didn't matter. 766 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,040 Yeah, it didn't affect. It dude, everything you're 767 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:27,800 saying right now, like down to the moment you took that pill, I 768 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,960 know 'cause I was on Adderall a long time ago. 769 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,200 And what you're describing like everything, dude, I went through 770 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,280 all of that. I, I don't really, I mean, I 771 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,080 kind of remember the first time I smoke weed, but I remember the 772 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,160 day I took that pill. I remember how it made me feel, 773 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,760 what I accomplished. I was it was amazing. 774 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,440 And the weight started just like people were really concerned. 775 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,960 I was like down to 140 lbs. I didn't look like that since I 776 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,400 was a teeny shit. Right. 777 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,000 And I was just like, whoa. But I thought it was amazing. 778 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,080 And it just like you said, I started on five greens, right? 779 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,000 The little 5 milligram. Yeah, yeah, the blue. 780 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,360 Yeah, greenish blue. And you take, see, that's pretty 781 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,920 fucked up, bro. And then you take that and 782 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,040 you're like, whoa, but it wasn't an extended release. 783 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,920 And then you get the extended release going, no, I don't like 784 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,480 that because then it takes longer. 785 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,160 I need it now. And then you find yourself 786 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,000 crushing them by chewing them. And then you start snorting them 787 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,720 because you want to go faster and you want to feel that way. 788 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,640 And it goes from 5:00 to 10:00 to 20 to 40 is exactly that. 789 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,160 Dude, I that whole thing, I just. 790 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,240 Have a flashback You resonated. The whole time, and you know 791 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:49,200 what I was thinking? I'm like, yeah, I missed that 792 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,560 feeling of you just feel accomplished, like all your mind 793 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,560 does is like that. And it makes sense what you just 794 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,840 said about it feels like weed because it slows everything 795 00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,720 down. But what? 796 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,880 But what I had to realize of what it triggered on the other 797 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,520 side of that was this very intense ego. 798 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Yep. OK, this is like ego on 799 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,520 steroids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 800 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,760 OK. I know exactly what you're 801 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,000 talking. About and at the time, at the 802 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,880 time in my life, I was actually like doing some growth hormone 803 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,280 of different things because I'd lost the weight. 804 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,880 I'm fine. I mean, it's coming off like 805 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,120 gangbusters. And we're at the CrossFit gym 806 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,200 and you know, you're just doing it. 807 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,680 It's just the guys you're with and just everything that's going 808 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560 and, you know, everything's clicking right. 809 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,640 And I think that's that period where egos took over so much, 810 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,720 right? But it was not going to let me 811 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,000 and, and, and, and I'm very grateful at this point in my 812 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,920 life. OK, This is probably one of the 813 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,120 most humbling experiences that I had to go through. 814 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,720 OK. But that's the part of the story 815 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:56,640 where we've gotten to a couple of times where, you know, I 816 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:03,400 ended up with my daughter in Colorado at a softball 817 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,480 tournament. She's he's my kid. 818 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,040 We travelled along a lot trying to fulfill her dream of being a 819 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,200 a collegiate softball player. She was able to fulfill that 820 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,280 dream. Awesome. 821 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,080 That's cool. She is now in Nebraska, starting 822 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:30,520 her first year as a high school teacher, teaching gym and the 823 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:37,840 high school weight class, and she's coaching softball in 824 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,560 Nebraska City, NE. Wow. 825 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,920 We just moved him out there two weeks ago, so. 826 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,600 That's. Hard. 827 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,400 She was with me in this journey too. 828 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,000 Like they've all been right, but I'm literally had got on to 829 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,480 wit's end and I'm like freaking pop and alga seltzer roll aids 830 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,480 at different times 'cause my gut's just getting eaten up. 831 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,320 I'm just, life is so high stress, right, with everything, 832 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,320 even taking the stuff and you're having to take more to get you 833 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,760 where you are. And I woke up in the middle of 834 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,040 the night and I'm just, I mean, I'm, I'm tapped out. 835 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,160 I mean, we've been traveling. You look at the life and how 836 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:22,040 crazy we were going, how crazy I was going, but we had to keep it 837 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,240 going. That's the part. 838 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,760 It was like, this is for my kid. I mean, like, so it's like part 839 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,000 of the story too, right? So you're like, OK, what 840 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,600 happened here? But we're sitting in a hotel and 841 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,440 I'd gotten up and didn't have any Rolaids and I've got like 842 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,360 heartburn like so freaking bad. And I'm gut problems. 843 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,360 You know, I've been, I've just ulcers, I've suffered from 844 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,120 ulcers. I suffered from this time 845 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,400 distress ulcers, right? But also ibuprofen added on it 846 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,680 too, though, like through this journey and they've like getting 847 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,040 some gut stuff when you're taking like 800 milligrams a 848 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,440 day, but all the time. But those things that we did to 849 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640 ourselves to make it suffer or whatever, I suffered to my wit's 850 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,200 end, I guess. I mean, that's the only thing I 851 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,320 could put into play. And I needed some Alka seltzer, 852 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,480 needed some Tums. I jumped in the car, left to 853 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,280 lock the door, went out, jumped to the car, drove down the road. 854 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,560 It's kind of crazy stand up at a Maverick station, right? 855 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,680 Like go Maverick or whatever, but yeah, right. 856 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,640 I I I dude, I won money from Maverick. 857 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,360 No. What? 858 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,840 OK, Wait, wait, wait. Keep going where you're at. 859 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,360 I want to go back to the cause. We've got all the time in the 860 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,160 world, dude. So tell us at all. 861 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,400 Tell us at all. So we're here. 862 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,920 OK, we're here. We'll bring this back. 863 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,400 Sorry, no worries. Drive into the Maverick and 864 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,360 literally I'm just hurting. I'm just, you know, you got that 865 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,160 whole just give me the freaking stuff. 866 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,360 This is what I need. And I'm literally get out of the 867 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,640 car and whatever, however I was talking to myself or whatever 868 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,560 was whispering into my ear says to me like, Hey, you need to go 869 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,240 talk to that homeless guy over there. 870 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,680 And I'm like, what freaking homeless guy? 871 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,840 I I this is honest engine stuff. You guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 872 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,440 No, no, I hear you. I've experienced this a lot. 873 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,000 I'm like, no, I don't like. I've got to get. 874 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,240 The stuff. The stuff in me right now, in me 875 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,320 right now literally walk into the Maverick. 876 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,360 I go over and grab a water because I know I need the water 877 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,280 to wash it down right. Come back around. 878 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,800 I'm looking for the Tums and I'm here and there and finally find 879 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,360 him. Get up to the the check stand 880 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,400 and again I set it down and it comes to me again. 881 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,800 I'm like, you got to talk to the homeless guy sitting out front 882 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,520 and I'm like, I can't do it like the I. 883 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640 Taking care of me here. So I'm fighting it. 884 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,920 I'm fighting this, this, this thing. 885 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,040 I get outside the door. I don't even get them open, 886 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,960 right? I'm like, at least give this 887 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,600 thing. And I, I don't, I finally have 888 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,600 to surrender to this crap, right? 889 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,880 And I set them down in the car. I shut the door. 890 00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:59,120 I walk back over like I don't have time for this. 891 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,080 I'm saying these things to myself as I'm walking up to a 892 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,720 homeless man sitting by the garbage can, literally by the 893 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:10,840 garbage can. And I'm like, hey, like, my name 894 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,160 is Jeremy Frischnick. You're OK. 895 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,200 And, and, and this badge that I wore, I might have even said, 896 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,320 like, I'm a missionary from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter 897 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,920 Day Saints. Like, how can I help you or 898 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,880 whatever? Because that's the badge I was 899 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,520 wearing. And I didn't know why I was 900 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,280 there or whatever, right? And I like, sat there. 901 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,800 And he like, looks up at me and he's like, hey, dude, like how 902 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,280 you doing? And I'm like, I'm doing good. 903 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,280 Like, can I help you with anything, right? 904 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,120 Can I help you? And he turns, he looks up and he 905 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:42,000 says, no, I'm here to help you. I'm like what? 906 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,200 This fucking trippy. Yeah, I'm like. 907 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,560 What, like you're here to help me? 908 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,800 I'm like, you're here to help me. 909 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,640 And he's like, yeah, I'm here to help you. 910 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,800 I said, OK, how are you going to help me? 911 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,480 And he opens up his bag. Opens up his bag. 912 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,560 And it had dude, there was like this big bag of change in there 913 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:04,240 to like coins. Like he might have robbed a 914 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:09,160 freaking like, like like robbed a, a place, a place or like, you 915 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,120 know, like a, a coin dispensing place. 916 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,840 And that's kind of what I was visually like, you know, just 917 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,040 came out of the armored car. Right, that's right. 918 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,960 I'm like, so that's. Kind of weird, like I, I don't 919 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,600 need your, I don't need your money, you know? 920 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,320 Yeah, I look over there and they're like, there's a, an 921 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,480 angel's hat, like from the angels is inside the bag. 922 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,880 And then off to the little corner, there was this little 923 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,000 container of Chiba chews, chocolate. 924 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,880 Chiba chews is what it was called, OK. 925 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,440 And at this time in my life, like, I knew that like, cannabis 926 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,760 was in Colorado. I mean, there was this time that 927 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,240 I was kind of like, maybe hoping to experience, or at least 928 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:49,760 before I died, you know, again, I'll be at this present time in 929 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,320 my thoughts and where life was because there was a part where I 930 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,440 thought cannabis at one time was pretty evil. 931 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,160 Yeah, me too. I got to be honest. 932 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:58,920 Totally. Me too. 933 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,280 Got to there was evil, right? Even though that played a big 934 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,880 part of my life, it was kind of evil. 935 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,320 It was kind of dark, right? So I didn't know how to take 936 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:14,640 that. But I went ahead and accepted an 937 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,320 offering from him when he pulled it out of the bag OK and offered 938 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,760 me the Chiba chews and said I was supposed to take them with 939 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,560 me. Yeah. 940 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,960 OK, he wanted to give me the angels hat because he kept 941 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,920 telling me I was an Angel, OK, But I decided to let him keep 942 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,200 that that hat. And The thing is, is along this 943 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,280 journey of this thing of meeting this guy and after these 944 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,880 transactions happened, he was trying to get back home to I 945 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,160 believe what was West Virginia. And I ended up helping him 946 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:52,920 purchase a, a ticket to take a Greyhound bus to get home to see 947 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,760 his grandmother. And I was in contact with her 948 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,880 kind of through the process of getting, getting him there. 949 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,760 And it found out that he was suffering from schizophrenia and 950 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,200 a few things, but he was able to find his way back home. 951 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,640 And like, so those little paradigms of things coming 952 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,200 together, like it was just, you know, people helping people. 953 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,920 Because at the time, I didn't realize what a blessing he'd 954 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,240 actually kind of given me. And when I finally humbled 955 00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:26,320 myself down enough to say that it was OK to eat the Chiba chew, 956 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,000 let me tell you that Adderall and cannabis probably might not 957 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,560 be the best mix for right out of the gates, right? 958 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,000 Especially when it's a Chiba chew and you don't know how much 959 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,920 to take dose you don't. Even know what the dose. 960 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,600 Is I like everybody? Does they go like? 961 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,280 I'll eat this and I'll eat the whole thing because it's like, 962 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,920 oh, it's chocolate. Or whatever right? 963 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,240 Did you eat? The whole thing. 964 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,280 I ate the whole thing, geez. OK. 965 00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:54,640 So let's say that my daughter, I mean, it kind of happened in the 966 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,880 weirded. We ended up on it. 967 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,280 Nothing weird happened, but she noticed a different in her 968 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,440 father. Yeah. 969 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,560 OK, Now what's going on? Right. 970 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,280 But that was part of the realization in it. 971 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,160 And it got bad again for a minute. 972 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,760 OK. Because you know, when the 973 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,520 culture that we live in and when my wife finally found out that 974 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,400 some things weren't, you know, when I'm lying, I mean, I mean, 975 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,040 let's say you're, you're hiding it. 976 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,440 I mean, you're doing some things and even in a marriage that 977 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,560 aren't cool, right? Because you're trying to be who 978 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,400 you are though, right? You're trying to like. 979 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,720 I know this is good for me. I'm seeing the benefits and the 980 00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:35,360 values, but I don't know how to. Submit this Yeah, I don't know 981 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,920 how to do that because it's evil. 982 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,480 In yeah, in what we've grown up or known, it's demonized. 983 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,280 And so it's like, how do I have that communication on this? 984 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,120 Oh yeah. 100% like, I mean these are those like you almost feel 985 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,720 like you're a pioneer, right? I mean, we're. 986 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:52,160 Just yeah. Totally right. 987 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,680 So it's a covered wagon. How do we have this? 988 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,960 Conversation. Guys. 989 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,240 Yeah. Like, like guys, are you like 990 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,800 you like, I don't know, you know? 991 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,200 Like you guys seen this shit? Are your wives? 992 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,440 Doing the same thing. I mean, this is like it's like 993 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,120 right. And so there's that reality and 994 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,360 you're like, Dang, this is and and I might have got a little 995 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,240 bit weird, a little like hyperetic because I didn't know 996 00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:14,760 the dose yet. I mean, that's the thing I'm 997 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,560 trying to figure out just your dosing, dosing, but. 998 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,040 Isn't that crazy though? Because I, I mean, what you're 999 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,000 talking about is the same thing Brandon brought to me. 1000 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,000 He he got me a cart from from Colorado. 1001 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,040 OK, I will never forget that cart because it was this little 1002 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,120 black one that had this little nub on the end. 1003 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,160 So it was like a stylus for your phone. 1004 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,160 I'm like, brilliant, you're going to get stoned and fuck 1005 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,000 around on your phone. That sounds awesome. 1006 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,000 Like I never used it for that though, right? 1007 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,720 But that's what you I mean that's. 1008 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,040 What you that's what they think. You go, oh, that's cool and 1009 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,360 useful. And then you're like, that's so 1010 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,040 not useful. But I remember where I hid it in 1011 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,040 my house and I would keep it there. 1012 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,720 And it was my little secret. And my wife never knew. 1013 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:58,840 My wife's, she knows. I mean, if she didn't know, she 1014 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,480 knows right now and I don't know why I've never told her the 1015 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,440 reason why I really liked enjoying mowing the lawn. 1016 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,480 It was I get I I didn't know the dose. 1017 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,680 He's just like. Just here's a pen take. 1018 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,440 Here's a pen and I'm like cool. Oh. 1019 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,640 I didn't know dosing. At that time, I still figured 1020 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,920 out no clue and I just, I was taking like three or four hits 1021 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,080 and I'm sensitive. I'm, I'm still sensitive to 1022 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,160 cannabis and Oh my gosh, I was so high. 1023 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,480 I thought the I was tilting with the earth as it was rotating and 1024 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,040 I'm trying to push a lawn mower and I'm like, oh, and my wife's 1025 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,680 and the lawn was not big. You remember my old lawn, it's 1026 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,920 small and it would take Me 2 1/2 hours to cut that damn lawn. 1027 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,480 And my my wife is like, but it was would you go? 1028 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,680 Over that. Well, I wanted to make sure it 1029 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,080 was all level. Oh, yeah. 1030 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,560 But it was just. But it is exactly what you're 1031 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,720 talking about. Like when you're on Adderall, 1032 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,640 it's really cool at first because it's you put on these 1033 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,320 lenses that you can now see the world in. 1034 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,440 Oh, please. And when you're able to do that, 1035 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,000 that's the one thing that I try to explain to people, like why 1036 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,080 do I use cannabis at the level that I do? 1037 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,880 Because my brain is going way too fast. 1038 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,240 Same, it helps it slow down to where I can actually like. 1039 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,920 I can pick out just normal stuff. 1040 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,800 Yeah, yeah. And I and I know and and I can 1041 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,000 listen more like, you know, where it's guided me to this 1042 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,080 point. It's like where you're talking 1043 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,080 with like the Chiba choos. Like, dude, for me, when I heard 1044 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:32,080 that story, when the day that we met, I was just blown away. 1045 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,880 Oh, I'll, I'll take some. Oh, I'll clear it. 1046 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,120 Clear that for me, please. I'm just still a rookie. 1047 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,440 This, I mean, honestly, this is amazingly like. 1048 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,640 You're good to. Taste all of that. 1049 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,760 I mean all of those things and I and I do like them. 1050 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,640 There's there's, I've done a lot of research in the different 1051 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,280 cannabinoids and what they're doing. 1052 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,920 And I mean, I've been down that that path, especially trying to 1053 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,040 find like we're talking dose. Yes. 1054 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,560 Right. And trying to find what dose I 1055 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,120 need, what is you know, what is how. 1056 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,120 Do you figure that out more now? Oh, 100% like that's, I mean 1057 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,280 that's so you find, especially when you know, half the battle 1058 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,840 is deciding if you're sativa or indica, right? 1059 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,480 Or what hybrid I'm supposed to find? 1060 00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:12,680 Which are the best? For you, for my profile and, you 1061 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:18,520 know, on the on the journey of it all, like, like finding the 1062 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:25,880 right, I don't know the right the right way. 1063 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,960 Well, experience to go about like, you know, deciding that, 1064 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,800 you know, to try to be, you know, open, you know, as, as we 1065 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,760 go through the, the process of even having to be honest with 1066 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,080 ourselves, right? Because there is the point 1067 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,800 where, where you are mowing the lawn and it's going sideways and 1068 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,880 your sideways. And, and that journey you went 1069 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,680 through though, was part of the process that you had to go 1070 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:58,280 through to decide when and how and what you felt like of when 1071 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,840 you needed a little something and what that something was. 1072 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,720 Yeah, it's, it's like that what we were talking about earlier 1073 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:13,880 with Joe, the nose, nose and I I truly feel like the everything 1074 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,680 that comes apart of this plant, it's pulling you towards it. 1075 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,240 And the first thing to rely upon is your your senses. 1076 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,600 Yes, and it's when you're touching it like, you know, 1077 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,880 like, OK, cool. Like like last night the dude my 1078 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,840 grinder like stuck together like it was glue like. 1079 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,920 The bottom of this one where the Keith is 'cause. 1080 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,320 I yeah, we can't even open that up. 1081 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,560 I'm like I have to use pliers or something on this one cause I 1082 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,120 think there's too much key from the bottom. 1083 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,760 Just like Jesse tried, I tried. We were like, do we get a pipe 1084 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,920 wrench for this like? Serious. 1085 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,320 But it's just like the you. You know that. 1086 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,760 You want me to open it then? Yeah. 1087 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,600 Oh, can you? I don't know. 1088 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,120 All right, Yeah, dude, right on. I mean, if you guys are just 1089 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,560 saying you're not, we're just. Going to do that for all guests. 1090 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,520 Now you have to try and open. It Who can open the bottom of 1091 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,280 this grinder? We'll have a prize or something. 1092 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,040 So what? So how do you decide what's the 1093 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,000 top and the bottom? Because I would not even know 1094 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,680 what I've never I've never used a grinder. 1095 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,680 So what are you? Maybe. 1096 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,720 No, dude, I'm. Just oh, because you mostly use 1097 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,240 pens. I just use a pen and then I mean 1098 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:17,720 I just do add edible moxie. Moxie. 1099 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,480 Oh, OK. I do some moxie. 1100 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,640 The good stuff. I mean, they've got. 1101 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,480 Some do you do concentrates. I do just a live resin. 1102 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,360 A live resin. Do you do a dab rig then? 1103 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,360 I've never done dab to never. Really. 1104 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,600 So when you're live resin, you're just getting the pens 1105 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,000 then through Mox, yes, just. Through Moxy, they just have a 1106 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,480 disposable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1107 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,520 I mean, you know, to to get at least my live stuff and then my 1108 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,520 gummies at night usually I'll do you know, have a good little OK 1109 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,880 bit especially kind of mixed up for, you know, sleep. 1110 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,600 Could try to get in that good. It's a rim. 1111 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,400 You know it, it is. All of them are great. 1112 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,200 The one thing I will say, though, this is yeah, that we 1113 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,240 always talk about like, you know, vaping is vaping is like 1114 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:02,760 fast food. It's good for a purpose, but 1115 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,040 it's not the best. But live resin is the best 1116 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,360 experience for rosin Rosin. But I feel like it's really hard 1117 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,360 to find. Do we have many live rosins 1118 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,080 here? I don't think we. 1119 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,840 We have it like in concentrates, like pure plan has a dab, they 1120 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:26,640 have black amber but dude for like half a gram it's 50 bucks. 1121 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,160 Yeah, it's crazy. It's so expensive. 1122 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,320 Dab. That's it That That's not a. 1123 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,480 Lot No 1/2 an 1/2 a gram of dab. Not at. 1124 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,000 All that'll go in like, I could use that easily in a day, Yeah, 1125 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,080 like. That's not worth it to me. 1126 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,880 But it's, you know, dab in general, it's really like, I was 1127 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,800 really nervous about doing dab. And the big thing for me was is 1128 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,840 because I didn't want to look like a crackhead because this 1129 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,040 guy had this dab rig where he would hit it with this blowtorch 1130 00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:01,120 until the glass was red. And, and while it was cooling 1131 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,920 down, he would say, and I'm not going to say it because it's 1132 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,240 around here. But I just set a timer on my 1133 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,000 little smart device for like, yeah, 90 seconds or whatever, 1134 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,440 let it cool down to like the perfect temperature and then put 1135 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,120 the dab in and. Then he put it in there and then 1136 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:18,160 I was just like, all I had was the 1980s crack epidemic going 1137 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,480 through my mind and I just because of the glass. 1138 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,920 And he's like, you really should try it. 1139 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,680 And then the first time I tried it I was like. 1140 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,840 Well, and then it's also like thinking, oh crap, dabs are 1141 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,760 going to be really high concentratements, but that's the 1142 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,680 same thing that's in your pen. So all you have to do is take 1143 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,560 the tiniest of little pieces. It could be like the size of a 1144 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,600 pin head. Yeah. 1145 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,480 Right, because it's the same thing as a pen. 1146 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,280 You just take a tiny hit and even if you take that 1147 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,120 concentrate through the dab rig, you don't have to take the 1148 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,760 entire hit. You just take whatever you need 1149 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,400 from it. But sometimes that flavor is 1150 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,920 better, the experience is better, the concentrate is 1151 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,320 better. And so getting through that, you 1152 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,760 know, and realizing, hey, this is the same thing that's in the 1153 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,080 pen, it's just a different method of consumption for it. 1154 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,720 So if you can just it's just dosing again, you know? 1155 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,960 Figuring well and I and I think I'm more like you know you said 1156 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,160 what it truly looks like you're this weird yeah like weird 1157 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,560 Wizards and dreams back in the. Day yeah, you're like that's. 1158 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,640 The thing I don't know about that, and that's the part where 1159 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:22,040 it's like for me it because I think it is in my eyes is my 1160 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,680 medicine. Oh yeah. 1161 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,840 Exactly. And that's. 1162 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,880 And I'm not and I'm not trying to say that it, you know, 1163 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,520 because we there is total ways of doing it. 1164 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,480 And it's not that it's not that we're not hanging out because 1165 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,920 we're here hanging out, right? I mean, I made the choice to, 1166 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,000 you know, this is something I normally don't do, right? 1167 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,640 But the experience. And here we are. 1168 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,400 Like, that's where I can say like, no, like I'm going to 1169 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,840 accept that. And that's OK. 1170 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,200 You know, it's like asking me if I'm going to drink a cup of 1171 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,440 coffee, remember? And I've still, I've still got 1172 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,440 like, yeah, that was, you know, there's still, I've still got 1173 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,680 this, this standard of things where I'm, I'm in my life. 1174 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,600 I'm still trying to work through, you know what I mean? 1175 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,800 Of like this level of well, of things, you know what I mean? 1176 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,360 And I just, I mean, and it's like even the smell like, you 1177 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:11,080 know, I, I remember back in the day like, like I when I became 1178 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:18,680 an active Mormon in the church, I was a single dad, OK, living 1179 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:26,160 in West Valley City, OK. And I mean, I was selling 1180 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,440 cannabis at the time. So you were the cool white guy 1181 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,600 around? I was the cool white guy, OK? 1182 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:38,360 I was living there. My my ex, my ex-wife had moved 1183 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:44,440 out OK, and we divorced. Bunch of weird stuff happened. 1184 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:51,320 And I had the boys, my these three boys, Everett, Montana and 1185 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,600 Logan were we were the brothers. That's what we called ourselves, 1186 00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:01,440 the brothers, OK, And we hung out a lot, OK? 1187 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,040 They were my buddies, all right? And their mom left. 1188 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,760 And that's who I had. And I had to say, OK, this is 1189 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,640 what we're going to do. The boys are going to hang out. 1190 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:16,520 We're going to do our thing. And as I started putting a few 1191 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,720 puzzle pieces of life, because, you know, along this journey, I 1192 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,440 myself ended up in a pretty dark place. 1193 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:31,560 Ended up loading up a LED, loading up a gun and stuck it to 1194 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,480 my head and I pulled the trigger. 1195 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:42,520 OK, I pulled the trigger and it didn't go off. 1196 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,760 It didn't. It didn't go off because, I 1197 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,080 mean, I'm here, obviously, right? 1198 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:52,920 Yeah, but I had to sit in it. I had to sit in it and start 1199 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,480 putting the puzzle pieces together as I cried out right 1200 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,000 before I said, what is my purpose? 1201 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,720 I said, what's my purpose? And as these little things 1202 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,360 played out, like all of a sudden I started getting these, these 1203 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,120 photos like these shop them like my children, man, they're 1204 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,600 running. Then they're playing and they're 1205 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,480 running. They're playing. 1206 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:18,440 And I was told that's what you're here to do. 1207 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,440 And so when I'm sitting in this situation where it's me and 1208 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,760 these three boys or mom, I'd come and ransacked the house and 1209 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,800 like tears it all down, tears it all down. 1210 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,280 And I'm trying to put the puzzle pieces back together. 1211 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,800 And each night I'm coming and doing a room and I ended up in 1212 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,400 the hall closet this night, this particular night and end up at 1213 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,960 the hall closet. Boys were in bed. 1214 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,640 I went out and smoked a bowl, come back in the house because 1215 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,520 this is my next task I started. I mean, it was the hall closet 1216 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,800 and I'm just picking shit up. Like, OK, I want this. 1217 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,760 I'm throwing it away. And I'm sitting in the bunch of 1218 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,520 stuff, 'cause this is like, you know, eight years of marriage 1219 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,440 and like a bunch of shit, you know, all of these things. 1220 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,000 And I'm just sitting in it, you know, I got to sort my crap out. 1221 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,440 I might have went out and smoked another bowl, probably to come 1222 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,400 back in, to be honest. Yeah, right. 1223 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,440 And just to where I was. Yeah, you start figuring out 1224 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,200 that your body needs more. But kids are kids are in bed. 1225 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,600 I mean, things are happening, right? 1226 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,400 And I'm not knowing what the heck to do. 1227 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:26,680 And as I'm picking up these books, I pick up this one and I 1228 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,560 look at it and it says Teachings by Gordon B Hinckley. 1229 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,400 I'm like, unless it's kind of weird, you know, this is really 1230 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,040 weird. Open up the book. 1231 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,760 And it says to my grandson Jeremy, OK, may this book, like, 1232 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,640 guide you in your life or whatever. 1233 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,040 And I'm like, holy shit, this is weird shit going on right now, 1234 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,400 right? And I set it aside and as I'm 1235 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,600 digging a little deeper and I'm putting more stuff, all of a 1236 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,400 sudden I end up with this set of scriptures. 1237 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,960 They were just freaking sitting there like in my hands. 1238 01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,120 And they were the ones, my scriptures that I actually used 1239 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,280 in high school. I was a seminary president back 1240 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,320 in the day of my crazy story at a little private school called 1241 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,800 Mount Vernon Academy. That's funny, I also went to a 1242 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,120 private school in high school. That's kind of. 1243 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:16,800 Cool and LDS based private school. 1244 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,760 Well mine was LDS based too. What? 1245 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,600 Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like I was 1246 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,160 like that. That matches dude. 1247 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,360 Oh my gosh. What school did you go to? 1248 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,560 Leona Academy. OK, Yeah. 1249 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,160 Yeah. So anyway, so but I was. 1250 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,160 That's hilarious. I was not the seminary president 1251 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,800 and I was the kid sleeping through cemeteries. 1252 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,440 So. I was the seminary and I do not 1253 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,400 still to this day. The my seminary teacher just 1254 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,520 happened to be the mayor of West Valley at the time. 1255 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,440 It's like dude. Oh wow, I can't remember his 1256 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,160 name right. That's one hell of a thing to 1257 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,360 do. Run seminary and be the mayor of 1258 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,200 the city. Was that simultaneously? 1259 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,600 Well, we were a small school dude. 1260 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,040 My graduating class was 10. Oh yeah, that makes sense. 1261 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,480 That was like mine. OK, we were a bunch of hoodlums 1262 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,440 from all over, all over Utah. I mean, it was, yeah, I was a 1263 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,360 senior class president too, of Dan. 1264 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,600 That's kidding anyway. I was asked to speak at 1265 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,760 graduation. Surprisingly, so did I, and I 1266 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,800 was like, what the crap? Like do you guys even know? 1267 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,800 Why are you asking me this? Right. 1268 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,120 It was weird, but that's cool. That would have been awesome. 1269 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,120 That that serious. That's so funny. 1270 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,800 That's hilarious. OK. 1271 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,360 OK, so where did we? That was just felt good. 1272 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,960 Sorry. No, that was no, I mean, hey 1273 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,680 there, we we let this flow. That's why it's a sesh. 1274 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:30,560 But. Where were we? 1275 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,480 Where were we at? Seriously, what was I saying? 1276 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,000 You were talking about being a kid going to school in private 1277 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,280 school. And we ended up there in Mount 1278 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:44,120 Vernon Academy, but before that. Jesus. 1279 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,840 No, You were in the I mean, it was right after where you'd 1280 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,800 pulled the trigger and you found out your purpose. 1281 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,760 You found these scripts. Kids scriptures. 1282 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,720 So I'm sitting in this the scriptures come up lit and I so 1283 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,880 I literally took these two components that I was given and 1284 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,280 not quite sure and I set them in their own little pile. 1285 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,600 OK because like, OK, is the world starting to tell me 1286 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:09,440 something because this process that is happening, right because 1287 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,800 I got to refrain back after this. 1288 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,440 I tried to attempt suicide. Yeah, I did end up in the psych 1289 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:23,160 ward at the LDS hospital, OK, and spent 2 1/2 weeks there. 1290 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:29,240 I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, stage two bipolar, 1291 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,960 manic depressive, seeing spiritual thoughts. 1292 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:39,360 Because what I saw right in that when the kids and all that came 1293 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,680 was kind of like this, like a light that I'd never seen before 1294 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,440 in my whole life, right? And like, nobody, like, really 1295 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,920 believed me. Yeah. 1296 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,840 OK. And so they stuffed me in this 1297 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,240 another this other box and this was a whole nother type of 1298 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,000 medication at this time. Oh, yeah. 1299 01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,520 OK. Because I was cannabis. 1300 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,600 And hey, I know you guys have a pill that'll just help me feel 1301 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,680 like I am like when I'm on cannabis. 1302 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,720 So it's a good thing I'm not telling you guys cannabis is 1303 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,200 bad. That's the good part of all of 1304 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,760 this. Yeah, I'm, I was telling the 1305 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,440 doctors at this point, like I'm just, you guys have something, 1306 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,880 right? I mean, it's just give me 1307 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,600 something to feel like I'm on cannabis. 1308 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,360 They just stretch in their head like this guy's a wack. 1309 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:27,560 Dude, I worked 10 years in psych, so I, I ran several 1310 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,800 different units at the Utah State Hospital for many years. 1311 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,800 And yeah, everything you're talking about, like, yeah, I 1312 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,480 know exactly what you're doing. I know I've met those patients. 1313 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,720 I'm like, well, what are you here for? 1314 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,080 This isn't. We're not helping. 1315 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,400 You please understand this was with, this was early 2000s. 1316 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,760 Yeah, Nope, early 2000s. That's when I was. 1317 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,320 There wasn't a lot that was going on and it was just. 1318 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,120 Nobody knew. Here you are. 1319 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,720 But I mean, I I, I racked up a a $50,000 bill. 1320 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,440 In 2 1/2 weeks. Yeah, 2 1/2 weeks of, of 1321 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,960 everything there and like as lucky as I was like I ended up 1322 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,600 with a guy that was in there that it was was the craziest 1323 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,680 thing because I'm just like didn't have anything at the 1324 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,040 time. I was like forever. 1325 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,840 And I end up in there with these guys and we came best friends 1326 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,320 and he paid my whole bill before I left. 1327 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,040 I never got to thank the guy. I never got to thank the guy. 1328 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,520 Like I can't, I mean, we were such buddies in there, right? 1329 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,680 And I started asking and I like never knew. 1330 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,840 And then somebody told him. I mean, the, I remember telling 1331 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,760 him like he owns sport court or something, but I don't, I've, 1332 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,600 I've never like what the journey to put it all the back together. 1333 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,440 But this was a blessing in my life that came. 1334 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,600 It was like the craziest thing ever. 1335 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,280 And so that's that part. But I, you know, you come out of 1336 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,280 it, you're on six different medications again, right? 1337 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,760 And I just wasn't feeling it at the time in my life and had a 1338 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,160 beat out of that box. And at that time I did pick up 1339 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:51,840 cannabis again, OK, And that part was like the healing part 1340 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,800 that finally opened. And that's when I was able to 1341 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,600 put God into my life. Yep. 1342 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,800 So this happened 1st and then the LDS church crap, right? 1343 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,520 I mean it, LDS church had been my whole life, but this is when 1344 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,720 I finally, and then my kids. OK, I'm asking the questions 1345 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,800 though. If you don't freaking throw the 1346 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,280 questions into the universe, right, then how are they ever 1347 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,680 going to come back? And so is that prayer? 1348 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,760 I mean, we could meditation is that I mean, we can all, we all 1349 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,920 have our way, right? We've all been trained to do 1350 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,080 certain things, right. But if you don't throw it into 1351 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,120 the world, it can't come back. So this was kind of that 1352 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,680 starting point of like saying like, OK, I'm going to trust the 1353 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,399 universe a little bit, you know? But it is. 1354 01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:31,760 And when you learn that it is the it's, it's the, it's the 1355 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,840 plant. It's the, the plant giving you 1356 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,479 the experience that you need, exactly what you need. 1357 01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,000 And when you use and when and when you need it, OK, it's going 1358 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,240 to tell you what you need to do. It's good at it. 1359 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,760 It's good to tell you, make you feel how you're supposed to 1360 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,399 feel. We all know it intensifies it 1361 01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,240 just a hair, right? Just to make us freaking see it, 1362 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,200 right? Be present with it. 1363 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,640 And sometimes it's because we try and avoid it. 1364 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,760 Yes. So then instead, you know, and 1365 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,160 then it really just presents itself. 1366 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,760 And sometimes I feel like that can be one of the hardest things 1367 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,960 for people, especially with cannabis is when you, I think 1368 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,960 about this with certain people and they're dosing at the 1369 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,000 beginning because I noticed in their experiences, they're like, 1370 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,439 oh, I have this horrible experience. 1371 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,120 And I was going through this and I was like thinking of myself 1372 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,920 like how they appear, like how they show up. 1373 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,479 And I was like, probably you're working through trauma, They're 1374 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,640 working through self stuff like cannabis usually is super 1375 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,279 introspective. And if you are really high, you 1376 01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:35,160 become incredibly introspective and you look at like all of 1377 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,399 these things. And that can be really hard 1378 01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:41,000 because there's things that we're not ready to accept or 1379 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,920 look at or that. And so even cannabis, it becomes 1380 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,520 a thing of like, I will not touch that because I saw this 1381 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,080 thing or I, I was faced with this stuff and I'm not ready for 1382 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,120 that. I can't like, I don't want to 1383 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,600 deal with this or face this at all. 1384 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,520 Yeah. I just want to like, pretend 1385 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,600 like it never happened, right? Dude, that makes so much sense 1386 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,440 because I always think about your brother, you know, your 1387 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,680 brother tried it one time and it was really hard. 1388 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:13,640 But now what you just stated makes so much more sense. 1389 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,840 It's the same thing. Like people talking about they 1390 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,520 have a bad trip on mushrooms. Like I've never had a bad trip. 1391 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,080 I've only had positive. But I mean, yeah, but I've been 1392 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,440 putting a mild hallucinogen into my body for almost a decade now 1393 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,040 and it in a constant state every day. 1394 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,360 And maybe that's prepare me, but it's it really is that what you 1395 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,920 just stated? When you slow down and you have 1396 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:48,120 cannabis in your system, you get to see you and sometimes that's 1397 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,720 really hard to see because you're like, I don't. 1398 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,200 It's because we don't love ourselves. 1399 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,200 No, you're 100% No 100. Percent and it's it's 1400 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,280 understanding who you are to love yourself right on that's 1401 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,880 the. Deepest level they take seeing 1402 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,680 the real you. That's that's why I keep saying 1403 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,560 that's why I'm so evangelical about about 12 shapes because it 1404 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,240 it finally, it was that part. But the craziest thing is that 1405 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,800 cannabis has been this nucleus of being able to connect me to 1406 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,680 those people because Brandon knew for unknown reasons why he 1407 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,520 even gave it to me. He's like, hey, have you ever 1408 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,400 thought about this? I'm like, no, and he gets it for 1409 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,240 me. And I'm like, hey, whatever, he 1410 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,240 goes, don't even worry about it, it's yours. 1411 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,360 And it was the greatest blessing. 1412 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,480 So long I don't even remember. I remember it was just it was 1413 01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:37,560 1/2 gram cart. What it was going on in your 1414 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,920 life or like if you just. Just it was just supposed to be 1415 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,680 man, because we became good friends, you know, after his 1416 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,200 divorce, we became closer and I used to be good friends with his 1417 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,160 brother. That makes a lot of sense, yeah. 1418 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,360 Because, you know, after his divorce, because he had a lot of 1419 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,280 judgement coming from the family. 1420 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,080 But I don't judge, you know, there were certain type of 1421 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,080 people that I was really judge mental in and it's not their 1422 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,600 skin color. So we'll get into that in 1423 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,960 another episode, but. Oh. 1424 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,200 No. It really is, man. 1425 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,760 It was like this great time. It was supposed to come into my 1426 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,640 life and it changed me. And all the stuff you're talking 1427 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,440 about, like hiding it from your wife and all that and trying to 1428 01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:23,280 make sure your kids don't recognize it because it's this 1429 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,880 thing. It's supposed to be bad. 1430 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,480 But you know, it's, if you put it in a biblical sense, it's 1431 01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:32,320 almost why Eve had to eat from the fruit, the forbidden fruit. 1432 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,080 Yeah. Because so it's something there. 1433 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,760 So this is, I mean, this is actually part of the story. 1434 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,800 That was the part when I found that, like I found the the 1435 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,280 scriptures and I had the teachings by Gordon B Hinckley. 1436 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:53,080 OK, my night that I prepared because I've prepared that time 1437 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,240 for me. Kids are in bed, everything's in 1438 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,320 check. Dishes are done, laundry's done. 1439 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,160 The freaking the the the clothes are set out for them to get 1440 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,360 ready in the morning because these are all prep things that 1441 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,040 I've got to do to get my butt in time to work. 1442 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,240 There's nobody else Co parenting like I'm having to learn these 1443 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,520 lessons, right? Being the dad, being the 1444 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,160 caregiver, being trying to do all those things and I'm not 1445 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,320 trying to tote my thing. No, no. 1446 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,120 You mean you got a single dad over to it? 1447 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,360 Too. I'm sorry, I've just. 1448 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,480 No, no, just. To keep just to keep things and 1449 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:27,880 I and so there's that part where I have to come in and go, OK, I 1450 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,800 went down and I sat down and I like, I, I'd opened up the 1451 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,000 scriptures guys. Like I opened up the scriptures 1452 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,720 and I and I had this little concept in my thing of like when 1453 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,600 I do, it's going to be exactly what I'm supposed to read. 1454 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,160 Like I already had that much insight of what I was supposed 1455 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:44,440 to do. Yeah. 1456 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,080 So I set it down next to the bong. 1457 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,120 OK, It was a 2 footer. Nice. 1458 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,400 Loaded her up right and I just did you have a name what's that 1459 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,480 at this point I didn't she did this was this was one that. 1460 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,520 Yeah, I don't name my phone. This is only the one that the 1461 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,400 ex-wife didn't take. Yeah. 1462 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,360 So should just be named after her. 1463 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,400 OK, we could probably do that. I I remember breaking it. 1464 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:08,520 I do remember. Breaking it. 1465 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,200 Well, there you go. That's probably why. 1466 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,200 Yeah, it was. It was. 1467 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,120 Cathartic, but it it did exactly what it needed to do at the 1468 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,280 time. OK, right. 1469 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,600 So I put teachings by Gordon B Hinckley over here on this side 1470 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,080 of it and I put the whole quad over here on this side. 1471 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:28,120 OK, And then partake, OK. And then I opened up the book 1472 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,640 and I ended up in Genesis and ended up and started reading. 1473 01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:37,040 And as I started reading about the forbidden fruit, it was told 1474 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,600 to me that that, that what you have right there is the 1475 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:46,720 forbidden fruit, OK, the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, 1476 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,720 the virtue and vice of everything that is there. 1477 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,440 And I literally sat in it going like, no way. 1478 01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:54,040 Like this is really weird, right? 1479 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,160 Like, whoa. And I'm just in this dimension 1480 01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,040 that is like, holy cow, right? Well, I come out of this, right? 1481 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,120 And that's where, like, I got to get my kids to church. 1482 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,160 I've got to get like all of these things. 1483 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,320 Got it. Like, I've got to make this 1484 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,440 happen. The next Sunday, we're at the 1485 01:15:10,440 --> 01:15:14,400 Valley Assembly of God Church, OK, in West Valley on 45th 1486 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,400 South, OK. We've gone over the Bible. 1487 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,080 Baptist Church, Pastor Warnicki was his name. 1488 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:22,840 OK? I went to school with his son, 1489 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,880 private school. So I knew like, kind of where I 1490 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,360 was going, but it just didn't fit. 1491 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,800 They tried to stick me in a corner in there and say, hey, 1492 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:29,880 these are all the people that aren't. 1493 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,400 They used to be Mormons, right? I didn't know I wanted to be a 1494 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,200 Mormon yet all the way, right. But. 1495 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,960 Yeah, yeah, but you were looking for a fit. 1496 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:39,760 Looking for a fit. I went in through a similar 1497 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:40,520 journey. Right. 1498 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,080 And so the Valley Assembly of God Church on the other corner 1499 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,320 that we went to the next week they came doing cartwheels down 1500 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,200 the point and the boys are looking at me like that. 1501 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,320 This is not the place like it's not the place right. 1502 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,840 So I literally like we we go back to the house and I've got 1503 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,520 another week to think about it, right? 1504 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,000 Had my own little sash, whatever, doing my journey, 1505 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,840 right. And I finally said, I've got to 1506 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,600 get you guys some new clothes, like to go to this, like to take 1507 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,680 you guys to this church because I really had to come to Jesus. 1508 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,680 And I'm like, where am I from? Why am I here? 1509 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,200 Like, why am I in West Valley City at this point? 1510 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,720 And when you ask yourself that, and then you say yourself like, 1511 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,320 well, I'm a fresh neck. And then you ask yourself, well, 1512 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,480 where did that come from? Why, Why? 1513 01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:22,920 You know, I'm really searching for these things. 1514 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,440 And then you're like, why, why, why, why? 1515 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:27,000 And I'm like finding the answers. 1516 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,960 You know, it was like, OK, this is the church you got to go to, 1517 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:31,920 right? I'm just thinking it's just what 1518 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,360 it was. And I literally like like, like 1519 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,320 had this, this paradigm where, OK, we got to go get the 1520 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,720 clothes. And so we had a ADI because I'm 1521 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,120 just at the time just kind of scrimping and doing the best 1522 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,800 that I can to keep things floating. 1523 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,160 And I go over and we got him an outfit. 1524 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:53,840 We got everything. We got everybody ready. 1525 01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:00,440 I can't express to you this day when we finally showed up to the 1526 01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:06,800 Jordan N 4th Ward, OK, because it was a journey getting there. 1527 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,720 But when we showed up, I walked through the door and as I walked 1528 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,800 through the freaking door, guys, like this is totally like this. 1529 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,040 I mean, and I'm on cannabis, I'm smoking weed, guys. 1530 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,840 I'm smoking weed like before I go to you're like. 1531 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,640 No, no, no. I mean, everybody should know 1532 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,600 right now. And if you're in my ward and you 1533 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,160 listen to this every Sunday, if you see me there. 1534 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,200 He's high. I'm high, yeah. 1535 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,440 That's why I'm so great conversations. 1536 01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:35,320 I'm I'm really like coming. This is good stuff to get out. 1537 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,840 Good. So you know, I I used to hide 1538 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,720 behind the house and I would get a a toilet paper roll. 1539 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:43,720 Oh, OK. And you'd put dryer sheets, 1540 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:44,880 dryer sheets in there. Yeah, you're. 1541 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,920 Making your own smoke. Buddy, smoke buddy, Right, 1542 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,120 you're doing it. Yeah, yeah. 1543 01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,160 So I'm doing that out in the backyard and I'm just like, and 1544 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,880 then I'd find that like oranges were really good with the citrus 1545 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,200 could take sorry, take the cannabis smell off real good. 1546 01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:57,720 So I've got my whole routine I'm right. 1547 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,080 And I'm even cooking stuff in the in the back, making my own 1548 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,280 pills out of butter, butter pills, so I could have, you 1549 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,200 know, butter peels during the day while I'm having it. 1550 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,680 So I'm, I'm doing this on the other kids. 1551 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,400 Like they can't smell it, right? Yeah. 1552 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,240 But anyway, we roll into church. And so I'm on a good high 1553 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,240 vibrational level. We roll in, but it was exactly 1554 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,000 where I was supposed to be. I mean, you're just like, oh, 1555 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:19,960 like, like freaking do they open the pillar gates? 1556 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,360 Like with the doors open? I was like. 1557 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,960 Oh. Like holy shit, I made it like 1558 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,760 I've been going this whole time. This is like like I was like 1559 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,800 hitting it relatives like hands or whatever. 1560 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,360 Like we did this, my boys, they folded their arms, they walked 1561 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,320 down the hall, they sat down in those pews and it was like they 1562 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,280 were exactly where they were supposed to be. 1563 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,840 And I'm like, visually watching this crap, right? 1564 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:44,880 I'm seeing and I'm able to go, OK, Well, you know, like I've 1565 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,480 hit everything. It's all I'm it's all hidden and 1566 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:49,280 I'm here. But guess what? 1567 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,200 I showed up and I showed up the next week and I showed up the 1568 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,600 next week. And the thing was is this weird 1569 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,320 paradigms, I end up meeting the Bishop. 1570 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,520 I finally decide it's time to quit selling cannabis. 1571 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,880 OK? Because in that vision I had, it 1572 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,360 was kind of like, if anything happened to me right now in 1573 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,800 life, who would be there for my kids? 1574 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,040 And here you're selling a illegal substance, right? 1575 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,400 Like, that's probably not the best thing, but it's what my dad 1576 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,440 taught me how to do. Or I mean, it was one of the 1577 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,160 hundreds of 1000 things he taught me, OK. 1578 01:19:22,440 --> 01:19:23,880 But you knew it. But I knew it. 1579 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,080 It was just familiar. It was valuable. 1580 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,680 And I was doing it better than he was, than he did when in my 1581 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,600 own world. You were helping people, but as 1582 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,480 helping it's. Medicating it was. 1583 01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:35,680 Medicating it was. Yeah, it wasn't it. 1584 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,840 That's how I saw it, and I always did because even my mom, 1585 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,440 I mean, there were just things that I looked at it differently, 1586 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:43,840 right? But the world didn't. 1587 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,720 But that was that part where I had to break because I was going 1588 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:51,520 into a whole new religious world, right, that I always 1589 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,400 wanted to play in like I always like I always wanted to be a 1590 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,720 Mormon, you know, like I'd I'd I'd like I was the kid that 1591 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,440 would sit there in Jones that and what would it be like to 1592 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:04,240 have family home evening. You know what I mean? 1593 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,640 Like what would it be like to be able to have a mom and dad that 1594 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,040 freaking, you know, like sat down and even made me do 1595 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,080 homework. Man if I like if I would have 1596 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:17,200 had a parent that even gave half a rat's ass about me doing my 1597 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,480 homework and they always told me it was my fault. 1598 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,000 Right know I was freaking had ADHD and like I was had some 1599 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,440 weird shit but you guys didn't care enough to freaking and I 1600 01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:26,920 love my parents don't get me wrong. 1601 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,640 Like no, no, I mean. Right, but that's just it's a 1602 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,280 reality and they turned me, got me to this point. 1603 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,120 So we're good, right? Like I've forgiven them, 1604 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,000 forgiven them, but I was the guy doing the opposite of all these 1605 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,720 Mormons that were hating it. I'm the kid going I want more 1606 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,960 like like give me a family that I can. 1607 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,760 So so I wanted it. I wanted it for my kids, right? 1608 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:54,200 So I'm on this little journey. The the Bishop calls me into it. 1609 01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,760 All right, I got an appointment with the Bishop. 1610 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,160 We go into his office and we sit. 1611 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,640 I sit down and I'm just fully loaded, just ready just to 1612 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,160 unleash my whole freaking life. Like I got all this stuff. 1613 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,800 And the poor guy comes in and he sits on his brother. 1614 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,400 Downey was the guy that was in the room and I didn't I didn't 1615 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,560 know who the Bishop was, you guys. 1616 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,080 Like I really didn't know to put the name. 1617 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,720 I was just showing up. Yeah, I freaking sit down in the 1618 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,000 seat and I just freaking. He didn't have the. 1619 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,320 We shook hands. He sits down and I just 1620 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:21,960 unloaded. Dude. 1621 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,520 I didn't give the guy the time of day. 1622 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,440 I'm just like, I did this and this and this and blah, blah, 1623 01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:28,200 blah. And I like dude, dude, I sold 1624 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,000 weed and I'm just unleash and everything and the poor guy sits 1625 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,760 there and I mean, I was probably 20-30 minutes that I'm just 1626 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,120 because I didn't know any different. 1627 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:37,160 I'm just like. You just had. 1628 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:38,800 It I've got all this Guild in me, dude. 1629 01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,360 Like, let me let it out. I mean, this is what you're 1630 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,600 supposed to do, right? I don't know. 1631 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,720 Like passing to my priest. Passing to my priest or 1632 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,560 whatever, I'm just letting it out there, right? 1633 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:46,840 And this poor guy looks at me and he's. 1634 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,960 Like do 7 hallelujahs. Yeah, well, I. 1635 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:50,840 Didn't know what to expect all the way. 1636 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,280 I mean, you know, I passed sacrament, you know, as a kid, 1637 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,360 but like from 14 to the to where I'm to 24 at this time in life, 1638 01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,120 like I'm not. In that realm. 1639 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,120 Nothing. Not even the close, right? 1640 01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:03,520 So I don't know. But I'm sitting there and I'm 1641 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,040 like, OK, well, I lay it all out on this guy and the poor guy 1642 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,320 gets up and he says, Brother Frischnick, like, I'm really, 1643 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,160 really sorry to, to tell you this, but I'm just the first 1644 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,440 counsellor. And I'm like, holy shit, like I 1645 01:22:18,440 --> 01:22:21,120 got to do this over again, right? 1646 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,800 I mean, I don't know, I'm just, I'm just learning. 1647 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,360 Like I'm just learning, right? So this little process kind of 1648 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,640 rolls us into, you know, I finally meet the real Bishop. 1649 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,080 But this brother Downey, like him and I became best buddies. 1650 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,720 Like he like came to a bunch of stuff and like that we we could 1651 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,360 see each other on a level that I didn't feel like I was being 1652 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,880 guilted or shamed or. You felt seen. 1653 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,200 I felt seen. I felt like, you know, it was 1654 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,000 whatever and it was a good experience, right? 1655 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,120 Yeah. So when it rolls back into the 1656 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:55,960 point where where where the Bishop finally meet him, he 1657 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,840 comes in and offers some assistance. 1658 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,080 OK, because I quit the weed business. 1659 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,640 OK, money's not coming in. Got a little bit of savings, but 1660 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:08,080 not enough to to sustain right. And I just gotten laid off from 1661 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,920 my daytime job. I was a maintenance, maintenance 1662 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,760 manager at a composites manufacturing place. 1663 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,000 And I quit my date, my, my, I got laid off from my day job. 1664 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,200 And so I had to sit in this thing of what am I going to 1665 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,080 freaking do now? Like what? 1666 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,560 Whatever. Like, I had to be humbled, 1667 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,040 right? So I go to the Bishop. 1668 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,280 Here's this whole situation this man like this offers me like, 1669 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,120 you know, the world, let me get you a food order. 1670 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,680 I'm like, OK, what's a food order, you know? 1671 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,640 And he starts filling it out and I'm like, OK, cool. 1672 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,680 And he's like, let me help you with, you know, what else do the 1673 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,120 kids need? And I'm like, well, I've got him 1674 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,480 on the floor right now. We're just because my their mom 1675 01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:47,760 would come and take in all their stuff and we made a nice little 1676 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,520 cozy bed, you know. But the guys like then here I'm 1677 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,000 writing this order for you. You take this down to DI and 1678 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,800 then they for beds for my boys and like all this stuff. 1679 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,040 And I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm not like I've got this pride thing 1680 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,080 going on where? It's hard to accept I. 1681 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,920 Can't ask family. I can't like it's just the realm 1682 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,040 that I'm not in. It's just like, but what do I 1683 01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,800 do? Like I don't even have support 1684 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,400 of a wife. I'm doing this by myself, like, 1685 01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:15,600 you know, and, and, and that's the thing of like, here's this 1686 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:21,000 guy just OK, we're doing this. And so I'm like sweet, like, how 1687 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,880 can I help you? Like how can I serve? 1688 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,520 How can I whatever. And and like 3 weeks later I'm 1689 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,240 called as a scout master, right? Which was probably one of the 1690 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,240 most craziest experiences of my whole life. 1691 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,720 How long were you a scout master? 1692 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,320 For dude, like until my boys got older, you know, that's kind of 1693 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,200 my calling. But my dad did that. 1694 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,400 This is that growing up and that's that piss, but that. 1695 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,000 But do you have memories? Were you a scout? 1696 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,840 Oh yeah, all of my brothers were all Eagle Scouts. 1697 01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:51,480 We went on every camp out, we did everything like, yeah, well, 1698 01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:54,160 I loved it though. My father was an Eagle Scout, 1699 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,560 right? And so it was kind of that 1700 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,680 thing. My dad wasn't, his dad was, but 1701 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,080 my dad had done like, so he'd gotten his Eagle project 1702 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,920 approved. He did his project, he did his 1703 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,280 paperwork and then submitted it and they turned it down after 1704 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:08,920 and we're like, that's not going to count. 1705 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,480 And he was basically almost 18 and he was like, well, I'm done. 1706 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:15,440 I don't care then. But then he was scout master for 1707 01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:18,280 like 15 years. Well. 1708 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:19,880 But see that? See, I was. 1709 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,520 All of his boys were Eagle Scouts. 1710 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,800 I was, I was a life scout and the same thing right to the end. 1711 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,480 And so it was something like, and so my oldest son getting his 1712 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,600 Eagle Scout, I felt was like I got mine. 1713 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,760 I mean, we did. But it's like this was my final 1714 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,440 like, thing to say, Hey, we we conquered this one, right? 1715 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,440 Yeah, but that little paradigm of, of thing and me having to 1716 01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:41,920 humble myself cause here I've got a food order, guys. 1717 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,320 Like it's like real. And he said to me, all you got 1718 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,360 to do is take that to the release society president's 1719 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,600 house and and she'll sign it. And he gave me your address, you 1720 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:51,920 know, and whatever. And I'm like, cool. 1721 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,080 But that pride set in, guys. And like I sit sat on my counter 1722 01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,520 for almost two weeks, right? And I'm just sitting there like, 1723 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,000 OK, there's nothing. And then Logie, little little 1724 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,840 Logie, he opens up the, the fridge door and he's like da, 1725 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,080 because he had a kind of like his speech and pet him at the 1726 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,240 time. It's like, da, there's no food. 1727 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:24,320 There's a little bit of milk. And I had to go, like I had to 1728 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,960 make that journey to get that food order signed. 1729 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:36,200 And it was real. Now, the bank account was not 1730 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,480 like I I pushed it all like I was trying so hard to find a job 1731 01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:50,480 and I picked it up and I took that paper. 1732 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,280 I went over to her house and freaking got out of my truck and 1733 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,600 I knocked on the door. One of the most humblest ladies 1734 01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,400 on the planet, like comes to the door. 1735 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,160 We never really quite met all the way. 1736 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,880 She opens up the door and she invites me into her home and we 1737 01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,080 sit down and we're talking. Brother fresh neck. 1738 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,280 Tell me I want to know everything. 1739 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,600 How can I help you? Do I need to come over and clean 1740 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,360 your house? Do you need people to help watch 1741 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,760 your kids? Like, what do you need? 1742 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,600 I'm like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know how to accept 1743 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,520 charity. I don't know how to, I don't 1744 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,640 know. It was, it was my freaking 1745 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,640 fridge happened to be bare before I could come here today. 1746 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,640 And I sat and like just had to go for the ride. 1747 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,400 And you're just like, humble your ass, Jeremy. 1748 01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,320 Like just humble. Your shit bro like. 1749 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,920 There's no turn in any way right now. 1750 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,760 It wasn't. We're sitting there and she says 1751 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,600 we're talking and her husband come in, old brother Bowen, and 1752 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,240 you want a piece of candy. He always trying to give you 1753 01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,480 candy, and they were the old candies, you know. 1754 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,680 Yeah, been zipping there for months or years. 1755 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,480 Grandma, Grandpa, Grandpa. Grandpa's candy, right? 1756 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,560 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's always like three different 1757 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,640 times and I'm just like, dude, I'll take a strawberry one, 1758 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:09,880 right? Like they were always OK. 1759 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,560 Right, that's the safest 1. That's the safest one in the 1760 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:14,520 bowl. Always. 1761 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,800 Wait, wait. So Brandon and I, we my, my 1762 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:26,080 wife's, his cousin and, and so grandma, grandpa, grandpa Ivan, 1763 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:31,960 he passed just not too long ago and he lived up till 93 and he 1764 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,320 was a great guy. But that, that was the funniest 1765 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,200 shit he would do whenever he would come by when, when he was 1766 01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:42,440 still able to drive, OK, he would, he would go drive to your 1767 01:28:42,440 --> 01:28:45,040 house randomly. You would just show up, and he 1768 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:50,080 would always bring the oldest candy in existence. 1769 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,120 But then he would bring like, they were like, Ed Rocks. 1770 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,800 Yeah. Ed Rocks, Literally. 1771 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,480 Rocks counter for like his whole life grew up. 1772 01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,200 Here, so he's always. Giving you rocks. 1773 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:04,680 And and it was so funny because he would bring like, what are 1774 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,880 they called? Why can't I think of it right 1775 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,120 now? This is really good strain by 1776 01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:13,440 the way, those gummy candies. What are they beehive? 1777 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,000 Fruit. Fruit. 1778 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,520 The fruit, gum the fruit. Oh. 1779 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:18,840 Wow, you know what I'm talking about? 1780 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:23,200 Fruit snacks, Yeah. The flavored package, yeah. 1781 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:27,640 They were so hard. And you look at what it expired 1782 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,600 and they're like five years old. And he brings over this big bag 1783 01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:36,080 and all I could say to him was thank you so much. 1784 01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,480 And he goes, yeah, you know, it's at my house and there's 1785 01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:44,440 like 1/2 package of Oreos who know, God knows how long that's 1786 01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:47,560 been there. And it's like the kids are all 1787 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,680 this is all stale. Like my youngest. 1788 01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,120 He goes and I'm like, it's good. Right. 1789 01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:55,200 Because he's trying to do something. 1790 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,480 And I mean time, when you get older, time goes faster. 1791 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:01,600 So you, you, you cherish it more, right? 1792 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:03,440 Right. When you're younger, it's going 1793 01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:07,440 so slow. But, but, but The thing is, is 1794 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:12,200 we just got to experience it. We got to experience the old man 1795 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:16,480 with the candy right now. We got to live that experience 1796 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,440 right now because of an old. I'm an old person, right? 1797 01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:21,440 Just kind of, yeah. I mean, I mean, like, and it's 1798 01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:22,840 old candy. It's from the old days. 1799 01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,480 I'd be accepted. It might be a 50s candy, but you 1800 01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:26,840 know, like, yeah. We were expected. 1801 01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,080 We were little, little kids. We're like, Oh yeah. 1802 01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,320 Candy. Oh my gosh, this is better. 1803 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,360 Sweet. You know, I felt like, I felt 1804 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,760 like it's never give me this. Yeah. 1805 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,160 It's like those guys who go out to like Africa, OK, And they got 1806 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,600 those like tribesmen and they're giving them Twizzlers and stuff. 1807 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,560 I do not like this very much. But. 1808 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,000 It is like this. Is too sweet, too sweet, but 1809 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,840 it's. No, it's exactly that. 1810 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,600 I know, I, I, I was really resonating with you because man, 1811 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,080 I, I had to do that not too long ago, actually very recent. 1812 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,960 And I know what you're feeling. You know, I've I've had to do 1813 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:03,040 that several times with my family and had to go there and 1814 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,200 fill up that food order. And then you show up and you 1815 01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:13,600 have this sense of just disappointment and that you're a 1816 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:18,040 failure and that will kind of father you to get to this point. 1817 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,160 You don't even deserve this. And that's just a lot of 1818 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,280 bullshit in your head because honestly, dude, like, you know 1819 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,560 where, where I really got spirits. 1820 01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,800 It was really not too long ago, like I became Brandon knows, 1821 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,800 because then I started getting a little bit more into it. 1822 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,680 And it was this book I heard on a podcast. 1823 01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,360 It's called imagine the God of heaven. 1824 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,120 And I was like, oh, what is this? 1825 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,440 So like, I'm, I'm, I'm not big into the religious books. 1826 01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:45,080 I'm not going to read any of this stuff because it's all one 1827 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,520 sided. And I was like, no, there's a 1828 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,480 guy who was investigating near death experiences and all these 1829 01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:53,560 stories of what they saw, what they came back from. 1830 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,320 And it was all different cultures all over the world. 1831 01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,520 And the only thing I got from it was that every single time one 1832 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,640 of these people went over there, whether you believe in God or 1833 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,160 not, whether you believe in Christ or not, it doesn't 1834 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,000 matter. But for those that do they, they 1835 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,920 want to be a part, they get this affirmation, they get this, that 1836 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,280 understanding that it's real, right. 1837 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:19,560 And so once I understood that, you know, the love that I, I 1838 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,600 should be sharing is the love that we should understand what 1839 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,240 we're getting out of it. This is my understanding, of 1840 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,080 course. And my understanding is, is that 1841 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,280 God, Jesus, whatever you believe, but I believe in, and 1842 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:39,200 then that and that they love me no matter what, literally. 1843 01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:42,840 But the way that I was taught and then the way the Brandon 1844 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,480 experienced a lot of the LDS church was in a very negative 1845 01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:48,280 light. And God was this judge mental 1846 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,200 asshole, yeah, who sat in the sky and looked down on every 1847 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:56,000 little sin that you did, every little mistake of being a human 1848 01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,080 and. Yeah, it was really hard to be 1849 01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,880 he was, I mean, his, his parents are great people. 1850 01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,440 They are, they're really great people. 1851 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:06,800 And, and our family members that we shared, they're all really 1852 01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,320 great people. Devout, many of them are. 1853 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,200 But at the same time, it, it was just, it's keeping up with the 1854 01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,280 Joneses. It's like the, the assholes I 1855 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:19,600 would go golfing with when I was in the IT world and they would 1856 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,640 make a putt and they go, that's why I pay 12%. 1857 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,040 And I'm like, wow, that's not even funny to me. 1858 01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:27,760 Like, you know, it's, that's offering to help other people. 1859 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,040 That's, that's what I finally came to understand. 1860 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,360 That's what it's for. It's to help other people. 1861 01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,200 And if it doesn't go to it, then you're in the wrong place. 1862 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:40,240 But what I got from that book and, and recently I had to fill 1863 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:44,480 out another food order. And when I when I got that book 1864 01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:49,480 after that one, I was so excited to go there because it was so 1865 01:33:49,480 --> 01:33:54,800 excited to tell this person who has dedicated months of their 1866 01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:59,600 life to just be there every day and just serve people. 1867 01:34:00,440 --> 01:34:03,520 And they're like, and I and I wanted to thank about my Hey, 1868 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,840 thanks for being here. I'm so glad you're here. 1869 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,480 And I say that to everybody now, like anybody that I've been 1870 01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:12,720 doing it for a while, but now I make it a very strong point if 1871 01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,800 I'm at Wendy's and that girl looks pretty pissed off. 1872 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,240 We just took my card, which I rarely visit now, but I used to 1873 01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,520 right. But when I did, like, I was 1874 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,920 like, Hey, thank you so much for being here today. 1875 01:34:25,480 --> 01:34:28,840 And they're like this girl, literally she goes is a fucking 1876 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,680 hamburger. And I'm like, Yep, but it was 1877 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:33,240 magical because you gave it to me. 1878 01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:36,800 Have a great day. And I drive off because I want 1879 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:42,800 them to know that that that's how I see my God as a person 1880 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,880 that that loves me no matter what fucked up thing I do. 1881 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:50,680 My life is not a stain, right? And no matter what I've done, I 1882 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:51,680 can't. I mean, I don't even. 1883 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:52,840 Care. You're not trying to wash out a 1884 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:53,600 stain? Yeah. 1885 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,640 Exactly. You don't have sin doesn't make 1886 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,840 you dirty. Yeah, it's just you. 1887 01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,640 It's. Just you, and that's why I, you 1888 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:04,600 know, when I, I just feel like a lot of, a lot of Christians in 1889 01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,200 general and a lot of LDS people, they just had this thing like, 1890 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,560 well, I'm doing all the right things, but they're not 1891 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:12,880 listening. No, they're check. 1892 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:14,320 Yeah, they're checking the box. Just check the box. 1893 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:19,080 They're they're, they're not getting totally into who they 1894 01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:20,280 are. They don't know. 1895 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,960 I mean, the programs being ran is like you don't know who you 1896 01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:25,480 are. You're because you've been LED. 1897 01:35:25,480 --> 01:35:28,640 This is what you have to do. But when it's in that dark time 1898 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:33,280 when they're laying down in bed, that husband and he rolls over 1899 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,800 and he's reflecting on all this shit that he is dealing with, 1900 01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,960 but he can't look like that, right? 1901 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:45,560 He's got to do all that stuff. Well, I'm like, I, I want to get 1902 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,800 back to like that, that point of, of what you're saying of 1903 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,160 being true to yourself, because there's, you know, there was a 1904 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,120 point in, in that journey of when you are just showing up, 1905 01:35:55,440 --> 01:35:58,960 right? And you don't know, when you ask 1906 01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:03,960 yourself, why am I here? You know, why am I here, right? 1907 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:05,880 You know what I mean? And you're, you are depressed, 1908 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:10,800 but you are because what you're living is not all the way, you 1909 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,360 know, telling the truth. Sorry, guys, I was smoking weed 1910 01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,400 and you didn't know it, like, right. 1911 01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,600 But if I, you would have known, you would have judged me. 1912 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,280 Like I, I've been judged so much by that. 1913 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,360 And I think that that's that thing of like where my world is 1914 01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:28,840 and like me to, to kind of, you know, discern the way I had to 1915 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,480 discern to be righteous to myself. 1916 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,800 Yeah, right. I had to put me first and say, 1917 01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:38,200 no, this is me. And then I can work on this and 1918 01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,320 then my community, right? And trying to serve my 1919 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:42,760 community. You wanted me to go serve, 1920 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:43,880 serve, serve. But guess what? 1921 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,800 My whole internal shit is totally messed up. 1922 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,280 But you're wanting me to serve, serve, serve. 1923 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,520 I can't, I finally had to say I give up. 1924 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,960 Like I can't do this. Like I've got to do me first. 1925 01:36:55,480 --> 01:36:58,120 And, and you know, and I had this complex of like wanting to 1926 01:36:58,120 --> 01:36:59,840 help, help, help. But The thing is like, no, we 1927 01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,280 got to do you first. You got to do you first and then 1928 01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,320 we do the then you can do, you know, you and your wife like 1929 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:10,040 let's work on that one first before I can't go yet. 1930 01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,040 But but but but we're going and helping the neighbor down the 1931 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,400 road move. But my shit like who, what? 1932 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,320 My shit's out of check. Like I can't like I'm still 1933 01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,040 struggling here. But so it's like, wait a minute, 1934 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,360 this to me. I I had to break out of that 1935 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:23,760 very like this is just messed up. 1936 01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:27,320 Like I, I got to take care of me first and, and, and that's what 1937 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:32,440 cannabis brought. 100%. But sitting at the point of 1938 01:37:32,440 --> 01:37:37,120 where Sister Bowen fills the food order out and finally signs 1939 01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,120 it right, And she says, Brother Frischnik, I'm going to go get 1940 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:41,640 it for you. Wow. 1941 01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,520 And I'm like, no, and exactly what you spent. 1942 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:49,600 I want to experience it myself, right? 1943 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,680 If I'm going to go do this And then multiple times I went back 1944 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,840 in life. And less shame. 1945 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,720 Unless it but to be able to pay it, to try to pay it forward was 1946 01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,920 a beautiful thing too. Right to serve. 1947 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,600 But in these places, yeah, yeah. Right to be able to serve and, 1948 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,880 and, and and see that at at another level. 1949 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,840 But the one thing, the one jam that I found in all of this, 1950 01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,480 right when we're hunting for rocks or hunting for things like 1951 01:38:13,480 --> 01:38:17,960 I'm a rock hound too. Sorry to say, I'm just. 1952 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,880 Saying no, that's all I love. My rocks, dude, The jam, but the 1953 01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,800 jam. But the jam that I found in all 1954 01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,920 of this is when I was sitting there and this humbling comes 1955 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:31,600 over and I've accepted the food order and this lady turns to me 1956 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,240 and says I would like to introduce you to my 1957 01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:38,080 granddaughter. And I don't want anything to do 1958 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,600 with women in this point in my life. 1959 01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,800 I'm like when my kids are freaking old enough. 1960 01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,240 I'll take care of me. I'll take care of me after that 1961 01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:45,560 when they're graduated from high school. 1962 01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,600 That was my, that was my, my thinking. 1963 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,360 And I was like, I was, I mean, I was poker faced at that. 1964 01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:51,880 That wasn't going to freaking change. 1965 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,320 When I walk out back to the truck with that food order and I 1966 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,520 jump up in the truck and I'm like going to start it. 1967 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,240 And I get that little thing that drinks me out of the truck, 1968 01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,200 pulls me up to the bore and sits me there and says, Sister Bone, 1969 01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:08,320 I'd love to meet your granddaughter, OK? 1970 01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,040 And I'm sitting there like, OK, I just went like Sister Bone. 1971 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,120 I don't even got a job. Yeah. 1972 01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,560 I don't even have like. What do you mean you want to 1973 01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,360 like? Introduce me to your. 1974 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,720 Grand, you know, like this is this is weird stuff right now or 1975 01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:20,800 whatever. Right, that's kind of funny. 1976 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,600 Hey, I'd like to set you up for failure, so I'm going to 1977 01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:28,480 introduce you to my granddaughter and but but take 1978 01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:30,120 us there, man. OK, so. 1979 01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:33,160 I'm sitting in this situation, go back home, probably smoked 1980 01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,920 another bowl. OK because I got to sit and 1981 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,680 figure this shit out. This is some weird shit. 1982 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,000 Like I just agreed that I'm going to meet a woman when I 1983 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,680 like, wrote it in a freaking contract for myself and signed 1984 01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:44,360 for my boys. That I'm not going to do. 1985 01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,600 This that I'm not going to do this right, Right. 1986 01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:51,800 So I come back and I sit in it and, you know, one of the books 1987 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,880 I found along with those other two was a journal that I had 1988 01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:56,840 when I was in 9th grade living in enterprise. 1989 01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,800 And I journaled the whole experience in Enterprise, like 1990 01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,960 the whole freaking experience. And I was a hellion in 1991 01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,640 enterprise. If you got family members, they 1992 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:09,720 will probably know Jeremy. Yeah. 1993 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:14,200 Anyway, as I'm sitting there and I'm contemplating this choice 1994 01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,280 that I made that I would tell a lady this like this 1995 01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:21,640 overwhelming. Feelings that I can't explain 1996 01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:26,520 for a human came over me and I woke up that night and wrote in 1997 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,560 the giant, the journal, that this was somebody special. 1998 01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:36,520 This was something, and I had feelings for this person before 1999 01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,480 I ever even met him. I was just that weird kind of 2000 01:40:39,480 --> 01:40:45,400 paradigm of something, right? And we planned the time to meet 2001 01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:48,800 and she called me and says, Hey, I want to invite you to our 2002 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,160 family Christmas party. Right to me like blind date, 2003 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,720 like we hadn't even, but I had done these little things because 2004 01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:56,280 I'm like, I don't know the freaking world. 2005 01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:56,800 I mean I. Don't. 2006 01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:58,040 Yeah, just follow it. King Louie? 2007 01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:59,000 I don't know. Yeah, yeah. 2008 01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,320 It was just. King Louie, talk to you. 2009 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,160 Talking to me right there bro. Just go. 2010 01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:04,400 Just go dude. Just do it just. 2011 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:05,880 Do it. Just show up and everything will 2012 01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,400 be doing. Well, King Louie do, man. 2013 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,160 Yeah, like, you know, just follow it. 2014 01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,000 And so, you know, I do. I'd show up, walk through the 2015 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,920 doors of this thing. I'm going to a family, like a 2016 01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,640 ward house even I'm going to a family Christmas, big ward, big 2017 01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:21,240 family. So I walk through the doors, I 2018 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,120 can hear some giggling and a bunch of kids running around and 2019 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,280 somebody yelled and this girl comes down. 2020 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,720 I'm hearing this voice of like somebody that I know, you know, 2021 01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,960 I'm like, whoa, this is weird. And look over and it just 2022 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,760 happened to be this girl named Shay that used to do a lot of 2023 01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,000 partying out of the sand dunes back in the day and writing. 2024 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,280 I. Think everyone knows a woman 2025 01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:42,080 named Shay that parties at the sand dunes? 2026 01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:42,920 Right. Maybe. 2027 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,760 So anyway, we start and I'm like, hey, like, you know how 2028 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:47,640 you doing? Whatever. 2029 01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,760 I'd. We'd known each other. 2030 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:50,520 Yeah. So just put all of these little 2031 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,600 paradigms together. But Jade showed up. 2032 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:55,920 That was her name. Jade. 2033 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,120 She was my Jim. She was the rock I was looking 2034 01:41:58,120 --> 01:41:58,720 for. See. 2035 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,120 And she showed up. That's crazy. 2036 01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:05,360 OK. And she walked through the door 2037 01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,480 and it was an embracing of this big hug. 2038 01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:15,400 And we kind of started from there and went on a date the 2039 01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:18,480 next night. And then I asked her to marry me 2040 01:42:18,480 --> 01:42:23,440 the night after that. Damn, what Mormon boys move 2041 01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:24,960 fast. Dude, they do that's. 2042 01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:28,280 Awesome, Can you believe that? Yes, totally. 2043 01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:32,280 And, and so all of a sudden, it kicked off this thing where we 2044 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,840 blended two families. She had a son. 2045 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,320 So I asked her to marry me on New Year's Day. 2046 01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,800 I even like stood out in front of the temple, like right by the 2047 01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,920 Joseph Smith Memorial and like did the whole thing. 2048 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:47,800 Right. Did that whole thing, but we 2049 01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,200 only known each other a week, you know, So it's like, you 2050 01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:51,680 know, you had to go quick or whatever. 2051 01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:57,880 But along that journey, we ended up getting married about 90 days 2052 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:02,200 later because, you know, like a couple of people that have 2053 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,240 married and things, you know, it's hard to keep that. 2054 01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,400 But we wanted to be married in the temple. 2055 01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:08,240 Yeah. And so you can't sleep with them 2056 01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:09,680 before you get married. You can't sleep with them before 2057 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:11,000 you get married because it's a sin. 2058 01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:12,760 Right within that marriage. Yeah. 2059 01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:16,680 And so, you know, Jeremy, I mean, we tried the best that we 2060 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,560 could, and it just wasn't happening. 2061 01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,200 You know, it's hard to happen. Yeah. 2062 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:24,200 So being two grown adults, right? 2063 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:26,840 Right. Dude, you're saying all these 2064 01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,960 things that all I want to do is like, yeah, that's what she 2065 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:29,960 said. That's what. 2066 01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,720 She said right grown adult. It was so hard. 2067 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:39,800 So like I was trying my hardest, but along that, but along that 2068 01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,680 process, like obviously we didn't get the the marriage that 2069 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,160 we set out to have, yeah. But the marriage that you 2070 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:48,920 needed? But the marriage we needed, it 2071 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:50,240 happened, right? Yeah. 2072 01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:54,640 And then a year later, we were able to be sealed in the temple. 2073 01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:01,120 We had two daughters. So we have mine yours and ours 2074 01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:03,400 I. Remember that movie? 2075 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,240 Yeah, it was a good one. So that little part just kind of 2076 01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:11,880 leads, you know, I kind of had a little bit of a thing that I 2077 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,320 never told her about the cannabis side of me at that 2078 01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,760 time. And I was still partaking along 2079 01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,800 the process like, you know, because I needed my medication 2080 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,600 and I wasn't quite sure how I was going to function without 2081 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:24,800 function. But we're married. 2082 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,880 We're like all on, right. And things got a little bit, you 2083 01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,760 know, weird and crazy and she found out about the cannabis at 2084 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:37,360 the time and I wasn't, you know, the right guy. 2085 01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:41,560 And we ended up separating for a few months, right. 2086 01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,440 But like anybody else would look at on this of like, what in the 2087 01:44:44,440 --> 01:44:45,800 heck? Of course, it's because you got 2088 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:49,080 married so fast, all of these things, right? 2089 01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,280 But we held it all together. I mean, we held it together and 2090 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:57,400 we, you know, like work through it all. 2091 01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,920 And I mean it, we struggled, we struggled. 2092 01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:02,120 We had a very, I mean, we had a minivan. 2093 01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:06,000 I mean I I was an entrepreneur my you know myself along the 2094 01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:10,800 journey still am right, just like me, but but. 2095 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,320 I got both of us right now, fucker. 2096 01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:18,560 But The thing is, what that started was I got a wife and I 2097 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:22,720 got a situation where I became a scout master and I was building 2098 01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:27,920 this little scout troop together that had four boys in it. 2099 01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:30,760 And three of the four about boys didn't have a dad. 2100 01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,800 We were in West Valley, so four of them didn't have a dad. 2101 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,360 And so it kind of opened up this opportunity. 2102 01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,960 I wanted to instill those things that I learned about camping and 2103 01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,480 scouts and things and changed some lives and. 2104 01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:56,120 Oh, I like, I like this. This is so man, you know, I've 2105 01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,600 been laughing over here and pointing because I'm just like, 2106 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:02,720 I'm, I'm just thinking of how crazy this is, Brandon. 2107 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,520 There's a million synchronicities. 2108 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,520 Even when he was mentioning his ward name. 2109 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:11,720 I grew up in the Provo N 4th ward and like just so many 2110 01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,640 similarities just and shit that I'm like it's Oh my gosh. 2111 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,200 What this is meant to be, man. I mean, you know, and and I'm 2112 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:19,320 gonna, I'm not. What am I not doing, you guys? 2113 01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:26,800 It just it's filling up a lot. Because it's big, okay, yeah, 2114 01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,280 that's you're good, I'm good. I'm just yeah, a total okay. 2115 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,600 It doesn't matter. True cannabis community, man, 2116 01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,520 nobody cares. Nobody cares if you came in 2117 01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:36,720 there brand new or you're super advanced. 2118 01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:40,360 Nobody's been like pussy or rookie. 2119 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,160 Take the hitch. You want Take the hitch. 2120 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,720 You need and. Yeah, and you know, it's always 2121 01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,280 open. I mean, you do, you're already a 2122 01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:48,360 part. I mean, you understand the 2123 01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,240 culture completely. But that's the one thing that 2124 01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:53,160 I've loved about cannabis is that it's the great uniter. 2125 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,000 And if you just slow down, you can see that. 2126 01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,840 But. Take us back through it now 2127 01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,360 because you, you're, I'm guessing you're with your wife 2128 01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:02,280 still. So. 2129 01:47:02,440 --> 01:47:07,760 So, yeah, so we went ahead and honestly, I, I, you know, I back 2130 01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:09,640 that up, Scout Master real quick. 2131 01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Four boys, four boys. 2132 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:14,720 We wanted to get our camping award, right. 2133 01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,840 And so if you camped every month of the year, like, and so I for 2134 01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,800 a, a guy or like, we're going to do this 'cause these boys don't 2135 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:22,600 have dads. And if we can get out every 2136 01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,120 month with these boys, it'll be that. 2137 01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,160 Would be. Great and experience and. 2138 01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:27,880 Impact their lives. Impact their lives. 2139 01:47:28,440 --> 01:47:30,680 And, you know, I took on the calling. 2140 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,240 Jeremy's got a tattoo. Oh, sorry. 2141 01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,400 Jeremy's got a tattoo. OK along the way. 2142 01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:42,400 And my first little like little experience with that was, you 2143 01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,880 know, I'd taken the boys. I told you it was three and a 2144 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:48,440 four. The fourth boy come from an 2145 01:47:48,440 --> 01:47:51,920 active family and stuff. And you know, here I'm being the 2146 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,680 scout master, taking him out. And the first time that I had 2147 01:47:55,680 --> 01:48:00,720 this experience was the boy had gone home and told his mom that 2148 01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,120 I had a tattoo. OK. 2149 01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,960 I got one of those too. And so then the mom. 2150 01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:10,000 So then the mom goes and tells ask the well, ask the Bishop. 2151 01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,800 OK, this was the weird. But to think if she felt that I 2152 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,200 was the right guy. OK, yeah. 2153 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:18,480 To be. To be. 2154 01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:21,560 Teaching your kids. Scout master or whatever because 2155 01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,320 of the tattoo. And it really was this humbling 2156 01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:28,640 thing of me of like, oh gosh, I got to like re evaluate and it 2157 01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:32,320 was kind of eye opening for young Jeremy and the ward that 2158 01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,360 there were people that were actually, you know, like that 2159 01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,040 because when my story, I mean, I was put on kind of a pedestal. 2160 01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:42,360 I mean, they put you on this, you know, this kind of a thing 2161 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,680 where you feel good and it's amazing feeling, right. 2162 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,120 I mean, we are we're getting into the roots, we're finding 2163 01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:51,160 Christ, we're finding this vibration of just this 2164 01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,360 resonates. I mean, you know what I mean? 2165 01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,560 And then you're like, when you just put on the thing that it 2166 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:59,840 like all it's touted up to be, right? 2167 01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:02,760 And that's that part where you're like, OK, this is this is 2168 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,560 this is me being me, right? But I got to be real with it, 2169 01:49:08,440 --> 01:49:11,200 right? And I really had to sit in that. 2170 01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,360 And it was like, no, it's for the kids. 2171 01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,680 And I learned to let it fall off of me, right? 2172 01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,920 And we just kept on hunkering down and just kind of just doing 2173 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:24,360 it right, because I knew that the boys, it wasn't the, the IT 2174 01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:26,520 wasn't the parent. It was, you know, because I, I'd 2175 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,200 seen the boy, like I knew who he was. 2176 01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,320 He was just making an observation of like, Hey, my dad 2177 01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,280 don't have one. I mean, like too many people 2178 01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,280 running around in his family that have them, right? 2179 01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,560 Or even the community or even the community, right. 2180 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,440 So that's that part of like, OK, well, this is, this is OK. 2181 01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:43,720 So I, I, I got to experience it first hand right through the 2182 01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:46,320 gates. It didn't stop me, right? 2183 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:52,440 I still kept it, kept it going, but I wanted to get us a little 2184 01:49:52,440 --> 01:49:55,240 camping trailer that we could put all of our gear in. 2185 01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,440 So we just roll up to it and we roll out of there. 2186 01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,600 I was driving down Redwood Road and I'm sitting there and all of 2187 01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,520 a sudden this guy is pulling this trailer out to the out to 2188 01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:08,720 the edge of Redwood Road way, NN Redwood. 2189 01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,000 And I just freaking pull off the side of the road. 2190 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,160 That's got to be my trailer. I mean, I'm looking at it, 2191 01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:16,120 right? This is this is it. 2192 01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:19,080 I roll back around. It needs work, man. 2193 01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,800 It, it needs to be painted. It needs a floor put in it. 2194 01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,760 It needs freaking lights put on it. 2195 01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:25,400 It needs all of these. I mean, it needs every. 2196 01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,480 I'm like, perfect. This is a project for Wednesday 2197 01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:29,160 night. We're gonna freaking teach them 2198 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,680 some crap. Bartered with the guy. 2199 01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,320 We get it for 200 bucks. I feel like I'm in heaven. 2200 01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,280 And we, I roll out of there, I'm just stoked. 2201 01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,560 Like, this is going to be the best thing ever, right? 2202 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,040 Oh, yeah. We get at home, we get the kids, 2203 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,920 we learn how to paint, we learn how to wire the trailer. 2204 01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:45,760 You know what we're doing? All because it's stuff my dad 2205 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,520 taught me, right? So you just want to, and then 2206 01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:49,640 we're going to use it. It's we use the heck out of that 2207 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:53,000 trailer. I mean, we, we literally did and 2208 01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,920 it kind of got to this point where the next fall would come 2209 01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,760 around and I was like, you know what, I don't want to park it in 2210 01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,800 my yard this this last year. I just don't want to store it. 2211 01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,080 And so I'm just going to sell it because that's just Jeremy, like 2212 01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,400 everything just repurposes or whatever. 2213 01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:11,680 And I thought another one will come and we'll do this again 2214 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,200 next year with the new scouts, right? 2215 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:16,360 And we'll have our own trailer that we just do. 2216 01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:19,640 This was the vision. So back in the day we had the 2217 01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,640 KSL, we didn't have KSL classifieds. 2218 01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:27,480 We had the Thrifty Nickel and we had the the Thrifty the Thrifty 2219 01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:29,360 want ads. Yeah, you get over there like 2220 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,400 like in front of Albertson's, like when you're going out the 2221 01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,040 checkout line. All those little, yeah, those 2222 01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:36,400 little things and everything. So it's like, like it was cheap 2223 01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,360 advertising, you know, like for cheap you could run a weekend ad 2224 01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,240 for, you know, like 5 bucks or whatever. 2225 01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:44,200 So it was kind of cool, right? So I decide, well, I'm just 2226 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:45,800 going to throw it in there and see what happens. 2227 01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:52,360 And I'd had 160 phone calls on the one trailer. 2228 01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:55,680 Jeez, OK. And I had the first person that 2229 01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:59,560 came bought it. And so this was like, holy cow. 2230 01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:03,760 Like if I would have had this piece of junk 160 times, I could 2231 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,520 have sold it. I got to do something here. 2232 01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:08,760 Like something's like, how can I? 2233 01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:11,320 My father owned a welding and fabrication business, right? 2234 01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:15,120 But him and I were too much alike and didn't see eye to eye. 2235 01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,680 And so it was kind of like, hey, I finally was humbled and like, 2236 01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,000 hey, can I come try to make a trailer? 2237 01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:21,800 Yeah. Can I come try to do this? 2238 01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,080 Like we, we let me do it. We teach me how to do it. 2239 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,840 Like just we're going to have a father, some project. 2240 01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,240 Yeah, we're not going to throw the. 2241 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:29,800 Ball, but we're going to Weld. Right. 2242 01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,280 We're going to sit here and this is. 2243 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:32,640 That's what we're. Going to do right? 2244 01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:34,800 Yeah. So Jeremy goes, gets all the 2245 01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:36,560 materials, you know, it all comes up. 2246 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,920 It was 200 bucks, like for all the materials to build it. 2247 01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:42,680 OK, wow. I go to his house. 2248 01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,960 I, I cut it all up and the one it was 400 bucks and I, you 2249 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,640 know, I bought it for 200, sold it for for that concept, right. 2250 01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:50,920 So can I make this for 200 bucks? 2251 01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,360 I don't know if my dad teaches me, you know, yeah, gosh, it 2252 01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,280 took 2 1/2 weeks to build the first one. 2253 01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:58,200 And I mean, I was because he was wanting to teach me his way, 2254 01:52:58,200 --> 01:52:59,600 right? He was driving me freaking 2255 01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,160 bonkers because like, yeah, this. 2256 01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:02,480 Is easy math. Let's get this. 2257 01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:04,080 Shit going. I got to sell this shit, like, 2258 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,560 what the hell. But my dad's trying to be the 2259 01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:08,880 mentor, teach me a lesson, and I had to go through all his 2260 01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:12,360 hurdles and hoops, right? So as this time comes and we 2261 01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:15,280 explode, and I'm like, to hell with you, and I've got enough 2262 01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,360 money to buy my own damn welder, Yeah. 2263 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,000 All right, I'm going to go build this trailer in my freaking 2264 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,520 garage. I just saw you pop off like 2265 01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,160 that. I was, I was imagining like a 2266 01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,720 like a little kid, like I'll show you. 2267 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,640 Well, in a way. Survive on my own. 2268 01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:30,920 Well, in a way, I was probably listening to Snoop Dogg and I 2269 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,520 was like. OK, Yeah, he was. 2270 01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:34,160 Probably more gangster at that time. 2271 01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:35,840 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean there was some. 2272 01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:37,960 There was. I have a real question. 2273 01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:40,440 Did you think you were black at 1:00 one point in your life? 2274 01:53:40,440 --> 01:53:41,640 I did. Oh my God. 2275 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,440 That's so funny. Sort of branded. 2276 01:53:44,440 --> 01:53:46,360 That's so nuts. I was in a gang. 2277 01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,680 I was in a gang. I mean, like they, they, they 2278 01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:53,120 called me J Ball, the white boy with the letterman's jacket. 2279 01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:54,120 That's. Hilarious. 2280 01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,040 That's hilarious dude. That's. 2281 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:57,680 That's really funny, man. Crazy. 2282 01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:58,680 Like, really? Funny. 2283 01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:01,120 It's supposed to happen. Yeah, well, it's supposed to 2284 01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:01,840 happen. I'm just saying. 2285 01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:03,840 I mean, Snoop still is dear to my heart. 2286 01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:05,080 We're going to give him a putter, too. 2287 01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:06,200 We're going to throw that out there. 2288 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:07,800 Oh, real quick, we need to talk about that. 2289 01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,920 Oh, that's I figured that would come into play when we finished 2290 01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:13,440 how the story of how you met. OK, I'm. 2291 01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:16,520 Just gonna you guys can see. That all right. 2292 01:54:17,440 --> 01:54:21,440 And this, yeah, and the. Key, we'll get all of this. 2293 01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:23,080 We'll get to hear all about this. 2294 01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:23,920 Anyways. Continue. 2295 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:25,960 Continue. Where were we though? 2296 01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,200 Depends on where we're jumping. We were. 2297 01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,000 Where do you want to hear from? Because we had a couple. 2298 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,080 Of what we were talking about the tattoo. 2299 01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:35,000 Tattoo bringing that back around. 2300 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,240 Yeah, the kids and the kids saw the trailer trailer. 2301 01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:39,720 So you're building that out. I've. 2302 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,560 Learned that stuff, now I'm at my own garage. 2303 01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,160 Right, because you don't need him anymore. 2304 01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:46,520 Don't need him anymore. I've totally obsoleted that. 2305 01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:48,560 Burned the bridge. I mean, I was peeling out 2306 01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:50,720 probably when I left. Probably literally Jerry 2307 01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:51,680 Springer stuff. Probably. 2308 01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:55,600 Just kidding. Dude, that's funny you brought 2309 01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:57,440 that up. No, just kidding, just kidding. 2310 01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:01,320 Anyway, so as this little journey goes on, I started 2311 01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:04,120 manufacturing these little trailers in the garage of my 2312 01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:08,320 house. The first one took 16 hours, but 2313 01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,920 I just had to figure out how to make them faster because I knew 2314 01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:15,000 I could sell them for $400.00. So I was able to get the concept 2315 01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:17,400 all the way down and I could build them in 2 1/2 hours. 2316 01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:21,400 So I was paying myself 75 bucks an hour in a part time job in 2317 01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:22,760 the garage of my house after work. 2318 01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:26,160 Yeah, and I would put the ad in and sell four of them every 2319 01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,320 weekend because I could do one every night when I came home. 2320 01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,320 That's fantastic. Though my son got old enough he 2321 01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,520 was cutting the material when he got home from school because we 2322 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:35,480 had a cut list, right? So we were oh, that's beautiful, 2323 01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:36,360 doing this little. Process. 2324 01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,200 I mean these parts just kept these. 2325 01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:39,840 But was it we were making the same one? 2326 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,880 Yep, right. Was just like boom boom boom 2327 01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:42,720 boom. Boom, it's just. 2328 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:43,680 It's just. Common, right? 2329 01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,080 That's beautiful. So we're sitting there and this 2330 01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:49,320 little concept is happening and we're building trailers and 2331 01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,720 everybody's coming and saying like hey, could you do this to 2332 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,640 it or could you do that? And I'm like, OK, so this is 2333 01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:56,680 where the trailer guy was born. Cool. 2334 01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:58,200 You sent an e-mail to the trailer guy at. 2335 01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right so this is where the 2336 01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:03,800 trailer guy was born. So all from me being in a scout 2337 01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:07,160 master given a little love turned into this little side 2338 01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:11,000 hustle I had going. OK, well then the side hustle 2339 01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,600 ended up turning into US moving to Tooele County, Utah. 2340 01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:17,480 OK, I went kicking and streaming. 2341 01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:21,280 Never thought in the world that I would ever be a twillabilly 2342 01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:22,440 and live there and whatever else. 2343 01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:24,320 And I'm not saying that like. Twillabilly. 2344 01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,000 Twillabilly. Dude, that's the first for me 2345 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,640 that I grew up in here. That's awesome. 2346 01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:31,520 Twillabilly. OK, I love that. 2347 01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:34,320 Perfect. If anybody listening, I didn't 2348 01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,960 mean that in a bad way. No, no, I mean, but during that 2349 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,400 time, but during. The time and the period and, 2350 01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:41,960 and, and my wife and I when we were deciding to move out, there 2351 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:45,000 was literally like, let's go to the Walmart and like just check 2352 01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,960 it out and see how it is because you're not. 2353 01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:50,640 Quite at Walmart there. That's cool, but it was where do 2354 01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:52,240 you find a house for the cheapest? 2355 01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,960 And this particular house we found like had a six car garage 2356 01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,000 in it and I'm working and produce some serious trailers 2357 01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:58,600 out of there, right? It's a lot of work, babe. 2358 01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:01,120 We're moving. We're moving, right? 2359 01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,280 So we move out there. I'm still working a job at the 2360 01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:06,280 time at the Dannon Yogurt Factory. 2361 01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:07,960 I know you're talking. About RAM packaging. 2362 01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,440 So I'm driving around the mountain every day, right? 2363 01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:13,200 That's why I've got a lot of headspace, a lot of time. 2364 01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,200 Yeah, I'm not cannabis at this time. 2365 01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:19,560 I'm just so often and just keeping life going and different 2366 01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:24,640 things and and so this is kind of happening and and you know, 2367 01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:28,040 it's just it's it was a good time of our life. 2368 01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,440 I I started this good side hustle. 2369 01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,960 We were doing good. Ended up with a, a gentleman in 2370 01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:37,800 in my ward out there right that end up saying, Hey, you're a 2371 01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:41,640 trailer guy, you're building trailers like our, our company 2372 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:45,120 is, is hiring for somebody out at Dugway proving grounds for 2373 01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:48,560 ITT advanced engineering and sciences for mechanical 2374 01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,840 engineer. Would you like to, would you 2375 01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:54,560 like to come and fill the role? And I'm like, what, like, how's 2376 01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,240 that possible? I don't know, like we need 2377 01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,040 somebody that knows how to build trailers. 2378 01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,960 I'm like, I've been doing out of the garage of my house and now 2379 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:04,000 we're already going to freaking this level or whatever. 2380 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:07,160 Like sweet. OK, so I ended up saying sure, 2381 01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:11,680 I'll fill out an application and got the job and ended up 2382 01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:15,240 designing like these trailers for the Department of Defense to 2383 01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:19,480 build biochem systems for detecting, you know, different 2384 01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:20,640 stuff. So that's crazy. 2385 01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:25,800 I spent three years doing that was in Alexandria, VA, like kind 2386 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:29,280 of that's doing lob hobbing and doing all that good stuff, just 2387 01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:33,560 spending buckets of money. But it started where the trailer 2388 01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,600 business came. And when that contract came to 2389 01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:42,760 an end, I was not able to, they got rid of the program and so I 2390 01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:46,760 wasn't hired on for another program, but I took that 2391 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:51,000 contract that we had and was able to get another contract. 2392 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:55,680 And so we started making these systems and then when that all 2393 01:58:55,680 --> 01:59:00,720 went went bad, we kind of rolled into oil, filled in gas. 2394 01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:04,400 My brother showed up needing a trailer to go to North Dakota to 2395 01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:08,360 haul frack water. And craziest thing ever happened 2396 01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:12,600 again just to all these stories. But I became the trailer guy and 2397 01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:18,480 spent the next 10 years building trailers and did a bunch of 2398 01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:22,280 cryogenic tanks and things for. Yeah, that's right, cryogenic. 2399 01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,080 Tanks. Which is crazy. 2400 01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:28,560 Where is that used? Well, that's for LNG, liquid 2401 01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:30,680 natural gas. So it was a kind of a period in, 2402 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:34,280 in kind of during Mitt Romney's little run of things where we 2403 01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:37,320 were doing clean energy and trying to transfer everything to 2404 01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:40,920 LNG. And so I was instrumental with 2405 01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:45,080 some tankers because there was Chart Industries was the only 2406 01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:46,840 company in the US that made them at the time. 2407 01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:50,440 And I'd partnered up with a company out of China called 2408 01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:54,560 CINCIN Rick, and they were the world's largest. 2409 01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:58,520 But we were there, US dealer, we were sold. 2410 01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,920 So it was their dealer supplier. Yeah, we were dealer a bunch of 2411 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:03,640 times. Yeah, it's a lots of dealing. 2412 02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:05,880 Yeah, lots of dealing. Baby, that's all we're doing is 2413 02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:07,400 always just Wheeling and dealing. 2414 02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:10,800 So so anyway, so so so that little thing, the humble 2415 02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:15,560 beginnings of a trailer company did end up in a a very a very 2416 02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,760 good sized organization building. 2417 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:25,360 My biggest trophy I, I call trailers as my trophies was a 2418 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:30,200 propane transport trailer. There's only three manufacturers 2419 02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:32,640 in the United States. And Jeremy decided he wanted to 2420 02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:39,560 be #4 And so we, we did it all the way down to just burning it 2421 02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:42,240 down. It just, I had one little piece 2422 02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:45,560 of metal in the tanks that were, that were bad. 2423 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:49,040 And it just, all just opened a new chapter of life. 2424 02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:53,880 And so the trailer guy just kind of that big scale, just kind of 2425 02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:56,560 just got to figure your life out after that. 2426 02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:01,800 What do you do now? I'm a greens keeper at a golf 2427 02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:05,000 course in Salt Lake City, UT. I mow the greens and make sure 2428 02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,200 the grass stays growing perfectly. 2429 02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:12,280 Sounds like a really chill life. It's not too bad. 2430 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,920 It's not too bad at all. It just kind of take it easy. 2431 02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:17,200 I just, you know, help out humans. 2432 02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:19,720 That's just all I do. It's helping humans. 2433 02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:24,600 Just doing it everyday. Just seeing that dovetails 2434 02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:30,240 really good to finishing what I had started earlier, how we met. 2435 02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:35,400 He came to help us with the tire and we got the tire replaced at 2436 02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:39,240 a place that he told us to go. It's like out of the 1990s small 2437 02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:41,240 place. I was so happy that we got that. 2438 02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:45,960 You recommended it because they really appreciate the business 2439 02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:50,080 and there's these two young kids and they straight up, they've 2440 02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:54,480 got oil marks on their face and it's all over their arms and 2441 02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:57,720 their hands. And it, it was cool to see 2442 02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:00,960 because they don't see that with youth a lot where they're going 2443 02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:05,400 to be doing hard work and it's hot as balls in this little 2444 02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:08,080 place. And they're like, oh, we have a 2445 02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:10,760 waiting room and you go in this waiting room and it's a small 2446 02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:15,200 waiting room and it is so cold in there and there is tons of 2447 02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:17,880 drinks. Like you see the other one. 2448 02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,960 You're like, this thing is you that the waiting room is going 2449 02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,800 to be awful. Like there's going to be a smell 2450 02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:24,920 in there. I know it, right? 2451 02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:26,400 That's that's what you would think. 2452 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:29,400 But then when you go around the corner and they're, it was just 2453 02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:32,640 nice. I think they care so much about 2454 02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:36,120 taking care of the customer. It's the newer generation that 2455 02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:37,920 younger one's really about people. 2456 02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:40,960 Yeah, they and they are. No, they really are. 2457 02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:43,440 And that's, you know, and I get to see it everyday because I, I 2458 02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:47,880 do hire, you know, college kids, you know, a lot of times coming 2459 02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:49,480 in. And so you do get a, a bunch of 2460 02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:51,960 personalities. You do get, you know, younger 2461 02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:56,000 ones coming from the, you know, I've been employing a couple of 2462 02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:59,480 swimmers from the University of Utah swim team, right? 2463 02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:02,040 And trying to get into, you know, helping them out, like 2464 02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:04,200 doing things and just seeing this life. 2465 02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:08,600 But these, they are so full of, you know, they want to help. 2466 02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:11,000 They really do. It's you know, and it's an 2467 02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:14,160 awesome change, but when you see this, I was just like, wow, this 2468 02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:17,000 is so cool. And Kim and I were just, you 2469 02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:18,200 know, we're like, oh, this is great. 2470 02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:21,800 And then we get back and we're putting the tire back on and 2471 02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:23,640 it's a pain in the ass. Fuck cheap. 2472 02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:27,520 And so when we're doing it, I was screwing on the the bolt 2473 02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:30,920 and, and we're talking we're and he's tightening them up over 2474 02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:33,800 here with his drill and the thing just keeps getting stuck 2475 02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:35,920 on the bit so that it was so bad you. 2476 02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:38,600 Have to like hammer him off and. And it's hot. 2477 02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:40,360 I mean, I, I'm, I'm, I mean, when you're sitting here, you 2478 02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:42,440 know, you're like, OK, I've, I've signed up to do this. 2479 02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:44,280 Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was no. 2480 02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:46,800 Because he's even signed up too. So like, and it's like you, you 2481 02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:49,440 can't turn back. When I saw him walking down, 2482 02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:51,480 like, I see this. I'm like, OK, who's this guy? 2483 02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:52,680 You know, I'm like, OK, this is cool. 2484 02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:56,360 And he calls it, hey, do you have a 15 or a 14mm socket? 2485 02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:58,520 He knew, he knew what he wanted, right? 2486 02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:01,320 You hear you go, go try him. And it came over me that 2487 02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:04,240 briefing of like, why are you, you already know that the car, 2488 02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,720 because my daughter's back. I, I, so I literally was like, 2489 02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:10,600 just grab the Jack and throw it in the thing and just go out 2490 02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:14,160 there and like, it's only going to take a minute, right? 2491 02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:16,640 But those lug nuts. And here's the thing, when they 2492 02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:19,400 got back with it and I was sitting there and I'm like, I 2493 02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,520 don't want to put those freaking lug nuts back on. 2494 02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:23,440 Like I didn't want to try to tighten them on, right? 2495 02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:28,120 And, and, and, and Kim came to find me just like, hey, we're 2496 02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:30,400 trying to, she's looking all over and I finally come out of 2497 02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:31,840 the office. OK, let me come help you. 2498 02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:34,960 You know, and I was dreading putting those freaking lug nuts 2499 02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:37,640 on just to get them started. I'm telling you, like when 2500 02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:40,200 you're given service like that and like you show up and like 2501 02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:42,160 the guy that's there has already got him back on. 2502 02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:46,120 And I'm sitting there going like, dude, this this guy's kind 2503 02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,680 of cool. Like he freaking like put those 2504 02:04:48,680 --> 02:04:53,320 lug nuts on, right? And like you take it from. 2505 02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:58,200 There, so we're putting on, but Kim and I are talking so 12 2506 02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:02,480 shapes again. I mean, I met Kim and and I'll 2507 02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:07,640 and I'll, I'll rewind to really be able to, to be able to kind 2508 02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:10,040 of deliver that impact because of what it was crazy was Kim and 2509 02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:12,680 I are talking about the business of of 12 shapes. 2510 02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:15,960 She's grown up for so long. She's been doing this for 25 2511 02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:18,320 years. She has people that have gone 2512 02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:21,680 through her program 20 years ago and say I still use it to this 2513 02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:23,680 day. My marriage is awesome. 2514 02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:25,520 My relationship with my kids is awesome. 2515 02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:27,600 My relationship with me is awesome. 2516 02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:31,280 It's so cool. And so we are talking and and 2517 02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:36,120 we're going to grow this even bigger and get more people what 2518 02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:38,800 I'm experiencing. Look, we need the whole world to 2519 02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:40,320 that. And we're talking about 12 2520 02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:45,160 shapes all morning. And I and she says something 2521 02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:49,040 about 12 shapes and Jeremy's like, you guys know about 12 2522 02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:53,200 shapes and we're both like, how do you know about 12 shapes? 2523 02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:56,440 He's like, well, this guy on this podcast. 2524 02:05:56,440 --> 02:05:59,080 The very morning, the very morning, like I'm out mowing 2525 02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:02,680 greens because I mow the greens, the greens every day, right? 2526 02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:04,400 It's part of my meditation. Yeah, right. 2527 02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:06,680 So I put on the set. It was a new, it was Friday 2528 02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:07,800 morning. This was Thursday. 2529 02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:10,800 So I'm waking up in the morning putting the session on right. 2530 02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:13,960 And so I'm listening just I do it every morning on Fridays. 2531 02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:17,160 OK, You guys are my my go to. Yeah, right. 2532 02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:20,760 Or yeah, Friday mornings. That still seems really weird 2533 02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:22,040 to. Me and so I'm sitting there and 2534 02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:24,040 so I'm hearing it that morning. I'm hearing it and I'm like 2535 02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:26,240 hearing it and just the wow, that's cool stuff. 2536 02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:28,320 I gotta look into that. I mean I'm cuz that's where I am 2537 02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:33,280 in in this this growth, this growth pattern that I'm in too, 2538 02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:35,480 right. And so that's when she says it, 2539 02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:37,600 and I'm just like, well, that's really, I mean it like. 2540 02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:40,440 I just barely heard that, yeah. Well, that's really cool. 2541 02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:41,920 Like and it was so fresh in my mind. 2542 02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,040 I'm like, well, where did she's like, where did you hear that? 2543 02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:46,560 And I said, well, on the podcast I listened to, she's like, well, 2544 02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:49,400 what podcast? You know, like what this well, 2545 02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:52,280 cannabis school, She freaking dropped to her knees, dude. 2546 02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:54,760 She's like, Oh my. Oh my God. 2547 02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:56,440 Like. And I turn around. 2548 02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,000 Like and she's like, do you know who that is? 2549 02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,880 And I'm like. Who like and I took and this is 2550 02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:04,440 the funny part because it's this is what happens so this hat I I 2551 02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:06,360 got into these like paperboy hats. 2552 02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:07,600 I don't know why I just got into it you. 2553 02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:11,200 Really like Newsies. Yeah, or that, or I'm 45 and I'm 2554 02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:14,080 just like, well, just lean into it, brother. 2555 02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:16,440 I mean, it's all fucking white anyway. 2556 02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:19,160 So. But I, I, I wear that and people 2557 02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:23,400 don't recognize me like I was at a farewell for my buddy's 2558 02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:25,880 daughters going on the on the LDS mission. 2559 02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:30,400 And this woman, I have been friends with her husband for 2560 02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:34,240 years. I wear a kilt going to I'm the 2561 02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:38,360 deputy commissioner for a clan Campbell in Utah and it's 2562 02:07:38,360 --> 02:07:43,240 through bloodline on my wife's side and I'm in a kill. 2563 02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:46,120 I go to go to church with a kilt on because it starts a 2564 02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:50,440 conversation. I got tattoos, I smoke pot and I 2565 02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:53,120 got to kill. Like we got a lot to talk about. 2566 02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:58,400 But she looks me up and down like I'm some transvestite or 2567 02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:00,800 something, like because this is Utah. 2568 02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:02,560 And then she's an old school woman. 2569 02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,800 So she looks me up and down and I laugh in my head. 2570 02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:09,240 I go, she doesn't Remember Me. Oh, this is awesome. 2571 02:08:10,120 --> 02:08:12,880 And then she looked in the mall. We'll see you later, Mike. 2572 02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:14,520 That's what I said you. Did yeah. 2573 02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:18,520 And she just like us. And I'm like, I am going over to 2574 02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:21,840 see her husband. He's he's in his 70s and good 2575 02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:23,200 friend of mine. And I was just like, I'm going 2576 02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:24,160 to go over there wearing the kilns. 2577 02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:27,880 Like, Sir, you like you like judging people, do you? 2578 02:08:29,320 --> 02:08:32,320 No way I'm going here in your dress. 2579 02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:34,280 Don't. Worry about that? 2580 02:08:34,280 --> 02:08:36,720 Look at this someone. Lifted up, you'll not be able to 2581 02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:42,120 get on you a good peek at me. But it it was just crazy because 2582 02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:44,600 when I wear this hat, nobody recognized me when I took off my 2583 02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:50,480 hat. He just he goes, oh, Oh my gosh, 2584 02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:53,440 And he just gets like he gets tears in his eyes and then he 2585 02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:58,120 gets goosebumps on his arm and I'm like, oh, and he picks me up 2586 02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:00,800 off the ground. Just give me the biggest hug. 2587 02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:02,920 I got one of those this morning. It was. 2588 02:09:02,920 --> 02:09:05,960 Fantastic. It's just me, guys, it's me. 2589 02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:08,120 I fucking loved. Him and he's like, there's no 2590 02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:12,600 way you are here right now. And if you think about that, 2591 02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:19,120 like that morning, Kim's tire pops, it pulls over at this golf 2592 02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:25,040 course and I didn't have my debit card with me. 2593 02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:28,520 So she would pay for it for me to go with her 'cause she was 2594 02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:30,120 like, no, I'm going to take an Uber. 2595 02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:33,680 I'll I'll call the insurance and like, no, I'll go with you. 2596 02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:37,400 I'll do it and this whole purpose of like I am where I'm 2597 02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:40,360 supposed to be. I don't I don't go away from it. 2598 02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:43,240 And for me, it's always like for me and maybe for you or some of 2599 02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:45,880 the people that like it's universe, but I truly believe 2600 02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:50,200 God's talking to me going do this like talk to that homeless 2601 02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:52,240 guy. Like that voice comes in. 2602 02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:56,360 And and that's that recognizing that voice and having faith in 2603 02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:58,520 what you're hearing. Yeah, just do it. 2604 02:09:58,520 --> 02:09:59,920 Just do it. Just act on it. 2605 02:09:59,920 --> 02:10:02,080 Just act on it. Like don't don't think about it. 2606 02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:03,840 Just do it because that's where you kind of. 2607 02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:11,880 But The thing is, is like in in my world, without cannabis, OK, 2608 02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:13,720 Like it's a little bit different. 2609 02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:15,360 Yeah. OK. 2610 02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:18,640 And I'm not trying to say that that's, you know, good or bad or 2611 02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:20,040 ugly. I don't know, like, but I'm 2612 02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:24,200 sitting here saying like, it's like my way of life the last 2613 02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:28,880 five years. And I mean, even the last three 2614 02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:32,960 years of just coming clean to my wife about my cannabis use, 2615 02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:36,120 right? Of what that freed up to free up 2616 02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:39,760 conversations for my wife to finally say, like, Oh my gosh, 2617 02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:43,760 it's not all as bad as actually you are a better human with it. 2618 02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:47,240 Like, I wish we would have had it, you know, earlier on in 2619 02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:50,400 life, you know what I mean? Like or whatever like right And 2620 02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:51,560 so. 'Cause they can see that. 2621 02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:54,520 Because they see the change and, and I mean, and I think this is 2622 02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:58,760 the ones like, like to turn around and like, you know, I 2623 02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:01,800 kind of mentioned a little bit before, like I, I had I in this 2624 02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:05,160 journey, had to go to jail guys for, you know, 25 days, I told 2625 02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:07,200 you or whatever the 30 day sentence, right. 2626 02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:10,200 And so when you're, when you're coming out of that and you're 2627 02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:13,480 like half and did you know when your daughters are sitting with 2628 02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:16,000 you, when you're being sentenced, you know, and, and 2629 02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:19,400 you're leaving and you're like looking inward on that kind of 2630 02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:23,440 situation of like, what, what got you? 2631 02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:26,760 I mean, what got you here? What, what are you learning from 2632 02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:28,280 this? You know, what are these things, 2633 02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:30,320 right? And so they could sit and blame 2634 02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:32,600 it on 10,000 different things, right? 2635 02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:36,520 So putting that puzzle piece together that I got a chance to 2636 02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:41,400 do it again, right? And we'd be able to prove that 2637 02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:43,280 through this process. What is the one thing that 2638 02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:47,560 changed? I I put cannabis into my life. 2639 02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:51,520 That's the one thing of all of this that changed. 2640 02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:55,560 And I looked inward because it talked to me and it gave me that 2641 02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:57,280 ability to do that. Yeah. 2642 02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:03,760 OK, to know who I am, right? The primary song, right? 2643 02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:05,880 I mean, yeah, that's it. Just opens up that gate for that 2644 02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:08,480 to work, right? Yeah, no. 2645 02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:10,720 And that's and I mean, and that's where I just had to come 2646 02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:14,480 to that, to that real, you know, reality of it is good. 2647 02:12:14,600 --> 02:12:17,320 Like it's not bad. And when your wife finally jumps 2648 02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:21,240 on board, like it now lifts you to a whole nother level of being 2649 02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:24,160 able to accomplish things that, you know, what's the, you know, 2650 02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:26,360 what's the unknown. Yeah, right. 2651 02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:29,040 And then when they accept it and they're like, OK, well, maybe 2652 02:12:29,080 --> 02:12:30,760 I'll even try a little bit. You know what I mean? 2653 02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:32,120 Let me try a little bit and maybe we'll. 2654 02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:35,040 Because they see how it impacts you and what it does for you. 2655 02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:38,480 The thing is, I did the situation where going through 2656 02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:41,280 the line, I ended up with D8 because you couldn't quite get 2657 02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:43,520 cards yet, you know what I mean? And so I'm trying to do it as 2658 02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:46,360 legal as I and buy the book as I possibly can, right. 2659 02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:50,720 And my wife had, I mean, she just seeing this change in me 2660 02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:55,520 and I'd lost more weight and I'd putting meditation in and we'd 2661 02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:57,960 even started doing a bit of meditation and I still hadn't 2662 02:12:57,960 --> 02:13:01,240 told her that I was, you know, I said I'm using CBD. 2663 02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:03,840 Yeah, you know what I mean? Cuz that's really what it is. 2664 02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:06,240 It's in it, right? So I'm not lying, right. 2665 02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:07,160 Cuz there's. CBD. 2666 02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:08,280 In it right, right, right because. 2667 02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:10,840 It's in it, right? And so I'm sitting there and I 2668 02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:15,920 anyway, so I have it in my top drawer of my and she knows where 2669 02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:16,880 it is. I mean, we were keeping 2670 02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:18,600 everything open. I'm not hiding shit. 2671 02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:20,120 It's not. This is my life, right? 2672 02:13:20,120 --> 02:13:21,280 Yeah, but it's a book. Yeah. 2673 02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:25,600 So I leave for and she's like, you know what, like that's been 2674 02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:28,480 helping him with his weight. You know, he's been doing so 2675 02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:31,680 good, like he's I think, you know, maybe I might just need to 2676 02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:36,680 try some. OK, and so she gets in the bag. 2677 02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:39,400 It was, I don't know what the time to D8 stuff, but it's they 2678 02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:43,960 were 50 milligrams on the gum. She ate that whole thing. 2679 02:13:44,120 --> 02:13:45,680 And she didn't know dosing either. 2680 02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:49,760 She didn't know whatever and freaking took that gummy and 2681 02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:53,560 ended up at work. Oh, Oh no. 2682 02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:55,480 How? How did that go? 2683 02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:59,480 Yeah, she got she. Oh, I got what did you what is 2684 02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:00,760 in here? I'm like, oh, shit. 2685 02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:02,920 Like I mean this is. What do you said? 2686 02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:05,400 This was just CBD. No, you should be taking more 2687 02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:08,120 CBD. What, like like get back home 2688 02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:09,480 and she's in. She won't do nothing. 2689 02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:11,840 She's hiding in the bed, like covering her head. 2690 02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:14,120 I was the devil at this. Point right, Yeah. 2691 02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:15,240 Why did you get this? Why did? 2692 02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:17,040 You get this? You told me it was just CBD. 2693 02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:19,520 So it's another level of like, OK, now we got to have the hard 2694 02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:21,000 conversation again. Yeah. 2695 02:14:21,600 --> 02:14:23,600 Yeah. Right, 'cause that trust. 2696 02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:27,320 That trust is now broken again. And so you're like, OK, but, but 2697 02:14:27,320 --> 02:14:30,480 I promise it wasn't. But that's the process you got 2698 02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:32,400 to. I mean, at least mine. 2699 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:33,800 I'm telling the story to be honest. 2700 02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:36,040 About it, yeah. Right, if there's any other guys 2701 02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:38,640 out there that are struggling with the same thing, like, you 2702 02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:41,440 know, like we'll help you out. I mean, I don't I don't know 2703 02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:43,360 what to say about that. It's, but it's a thing where you 2704 02:14:43,360 --> 02:14:44,880 got to be true and honest with yourself. 2705 02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:47,160 And if you're not, you're not going to be able to get to the 2706 02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:51,000 elevation of where you can be to be your best self and help the 2707 02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:53,960 all the people that are around you, right? 2708 02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:57,280 Like, yeah, you got to own it. You got to own it. 2709 02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:59,560 Be true to yourself 1st and everything else will fall into 2710 02:14:59,560 --> 02:15:02,240 place. Yeah, and truly, man, I mean, I 2711 02:15:02,240 --> 02:15:05,440 feel like that and and you know, it's like, you know, and Brandon 2712 02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:07,680 knows I've said this to him in time, but you know, I truly 2713 02:15:07,680 --> 02:15:11,440 believe that, you know, God placed Brandon in my life the 2714 02:15:11,440 --> 02:15:13,440 right time because he brought me into it. 2715 02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:16,720 If I would have done anything different, you know, that's why 2716 02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:19,720 I don't look at any type of anything I've ever done in my 2717 02:15:19,720 --> 02:15:23,320 life with regret. Like I would be the worst person 2718 02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:27,280 to contend with in a political campaign because be like, oh, 2719 02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:29,280 well, you did this shit when you were 21. 2720 02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:30,760 I'm like, yeah, it was pretty awesome. 2721 02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:34,200 Anyways, next question, right? Because I would be like, I don't 2722 02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:36,240 care. I'll lean into it like, oh, you 2723 02:15:36,240 --> 02:15:38,280 were, you were a bigot and kind of a racist. 2724 02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:41,960 Yep, both of those guilty charge next question, what would you 2725 02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:44,040 like to ask? Because it doesn't matter to me. 2726 02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:46,880 It's it's gone. It's not real anymore. 2727 02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:52,200 And you know, I, I, I try to live with that all the time, 2728 02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:56,360 every day. And it's just, it's just amazing 2729 02:15:56,360 --> 02:15:59,800 that you can get to this point where you just go, look, I'm 2730 02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:02,520 going to accept these things and, and I'm, I'm going to feel 2731 02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:04,520 it. And God brought Brandon in my 2732 02:16:04,520 --> 02:16:06,240 life. Brought, he brought cannabis 2733 02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:08,520 into my life through Brandon, right? 2734 02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:10,640 I mean, Brandon was being a missionary and he would never 2735 02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:14,320 admit that, but well, he was being a missionary and his, he, 2736 02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:17,960 he, he was, why did he bring it to me? 2737 02:16:18,520 --> 02:16:20,520 Why? Well, and that's, I mean, that's 2738 02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:23,120 that point of like when I finally came to the thing, like 2739 02:16:23,120 --> 02:16:27,600 I during this, this journey, my, my, when I had the boys and was 2740 02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:31,560 a single dad, my, my, my mom would take the kids usually like 2741 02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:35,040 once a month for me so I could have boys time right or 2742 02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:36,760 whatever. And then there was a little bar 2743 02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:39,160 down on State Street called the three alarm Saloon. 2744 02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:40,400 Oh, I've. Been there. 2745 02:16:40,400 --> 02:16:41,320 Yep. OK. 2746 02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:42,480 I was a bouncer there. Yeah. 2747 02:16:42,680 --> 02:16:44,480 OK, so three the three alarm saloon. 2748 02:16:44,480 --> 02:16:46,600 I mean, this is the could tell stories and this is weird 2749 02:16:46,799 --> 02:16:50,160 because that's the part of like, it was a pretty hit place. 2750 02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:52,480 I mean, it was whatever, right? But I had buddies that like to 2751 02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:54,200 go there. Yeah, but they would drink. 2752 02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:55,520 But guess what? Jeremy didn't drink. 2753 02:16:55,520 --> 02:16:56,920 I just smoked weed. Yeah. 2754 02:16:57,200 --> 02:16:59,240 OK. So I was always given the keys 2755 02:16:59,240 --> 02:17:02,360 and was the sober driver. OK, sober driver. 2756 02:17:02,639 --> 02:17:06,480 Well, yeah, sober driver I was. I mean, that's I was, I'm just 2757 02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:08,080 super calm when I drive, so yeah. 2758 02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:11,480 Yeah, well, anyway, the point of that part was like when it came 2759 02:17:11,480 --> 02:17:14,840 time to go, we'd go back to certain places and you'd get all 2760 02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:16,600 these people. We'd have an after party. 2761 02:17:17,160 --> 02:17:18,920 I'd drive them to the after party. 2762 02:17:19,480 --> 02:17:22,639 They'd get, we'd now get them high, OK, because there's no 2763 02:17:22,639 --> 02:17:25,080 more booze. We'd now get them high. 2764 02:17:25,799 --> 02:17:28,120 And then I would sit there and freaking preach the gospel to 2765 02:17:28,120 --> 02:17:31,080 them, dude. Like OK, and like tell them some 2766 02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:34,240 shit like because and they would sit there, dude. 2767 02:17:34,240 --> 02:17:36,360 And this is where I was like they like, dude, you're the 2768 02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:39,480 marijuana Mormon. And that's where I got deemed 2769 02:17:39,480 --> 02:17:41,160 that freaking that freaking thing. 2770 02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:45,200 When you got started? Well, I got started. 2771 02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:47,120 You called. The marijuana Mormon. 2772 02:17:47,320 --> 02:17:50,440 Yeah, 22, that was what that was through this process because 2773 02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:54,160 there was no better place because I because remember it's 2774 02:17:54,160 --> 02:17:55,760 forbidden fruit. I knew it was the forbidden 2775 02:17:55,760 --> 02:17:58,320 fruit. So all cannabis to me was the 2776 02:17:58,320 --> 02:18:00,080 forbidden fruit. So I'd start telling them the 2777 02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:04,040 whole story in my while they were high and coming off of 2778 02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:06,680 being drunk and half of them would they'd all be members and 2779 02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:08,520 wanted. You always end up with, well, my 2780 02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:10,639 dad's a state president and he didn't say it like that. 2781 02:18:10,639 --> 02:18:12,760 And I said I know because like, he didn't know. 2782 02:18:12,959 --> 02:18:14,280 That's hilarious. Yeah, he didn't know. 2783 02:18:14,559 --> 02:18:15,680 He didn't know. You're right. 2784 02:18:15,680 --> 02:18:17,600 But he didn't know. Yeah, right. 2785 02:18:17,879 --> 02:18:19,600 So that's the thing that's coming in is you're just a 2786 02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:22,600 marijuana Mormon too, right? We're all just marijuana. 2787 02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:24,959 Mormons he used to be. So he's no longer. 2788 02:18:24,959 --> 02:18:27,360 No longer OK. Yeah, he's been, he's been out 2789 02:18:27,360 --> 02:18:30,680 of the church for a long time. I laughed and I went Christian 2790 02:18:30,680 --> 02:18:34,400 for a bit and then I, I, I don't know what my relationship is 2791 02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:36,000 now. Yeah, but he's on the journey. 2792 02:18:36,360 --> 02:18:39,520 Well, and the only part, the reason that I'm going to say 2793 02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:43,520 that that that you can still fit in that classification is even 2794 02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:45,920 if it's saying, you know, it's just part of even your DNA. 2795 02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:48,440 True. Oh, it's all of my family. 2796 02:18:48,440 --> 02:18:52,480 Like it's. 5 generations, well see, see, and, and it's, I'm 65 2797 02:18:52,480 --> 02:18:54,879 to six on me. So that's that part of like, 2798 02:18:55,719 --> 02:18:58,240 it's like I've evolved to a point where we can have a lot of 2799 02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:02,920 conversations because I've, you know, like I still, it's still 2800 02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:08,400 a, a realm for me. I mean, I, I still embrace the 2801 02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:10,360 church. I still embrace a lot of the 2802 02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:14,240 things because it's, it's who I am, right? 2803 02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:18,520 It's a journey that I've, I've, I've, I've, I've been on to just 2804 02:19:18,520 --> 02:19:23,559 try to do good, right, To try to do good, but I'll never be able 2805 02:19:23,559 --> 02:19:29,040 to walk away from who I am and who my DNA is, right? 2806 02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:31,000 You know? Right, right. 100%. 2807 02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:34,320 And so that's that part where it's like I just, I, I, I owned 2808 02:19:34,320 --> 02:19:37,879 it and that's the part of like, it's just, it just fit, right? 2809 02:19:38,040 --> 02:19:40,160 Yeah. That's what brought us together 2810 02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:43,240 here at this point, Like this story, the whole thing, it just 2811 02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:47,080 comes to to the cannabis and. Beautiful synchronicity. 2812 02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:49,160 The synchronicity. Of all of it and and here's the 2813 02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:51,800 really cool part guys and then I'm going to have Jeremy explain 2814 02:19:51,800 --> 02:19:54,160 all of it because this is really cool. 2815 02:19:54,560 --> 02:19:57,960 So when he's saying like, you know we get introduced, he gives 2816 02:19:57,960 --> 02:20:01,400 me a hug he goes I have something for you and I'm like 2817 02:20:01,400 --> 02:20:07,280 what the hell and he takes us back into his office and he 2818 02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:10,000 shows us this putter. Well, he he was talking about a 2819 02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:11,240 putter. He had a different putter, but 2820 02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:14,720 he's he was explaining it because he had made these for 2821 02:20:14,720 --> 02:20:17,680 us. But he the whole story, dude, 2822 02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:19,240 you're you're better at explaining it. 2823 02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:21,280 Explain it for. Me well. 2824 02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:26,680 Because it will go to the keys. The keys is the coolest part of 2825 02:20:26,680 --> 02:20:29,440 this story dude. So start back like you used to 2826 02:20:29,440 --> 02:20:32,320 collect keys. And just, I mean, all through 2827 02:20:32,320 --> 02:20:34,640 your life, all through my life, I mean, I've just, if you go and 2828 02:20:34,640 --> 02:20:37,600 look in my drawers, anywhere that you're gonna find, you're 2829 02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:40,760 gonna find keys. I have keys on my key chain. 2830 02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:43,280 Just to have them. That I don't even know what they 2831 02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:46,120 go to right so this has just been that thing you're just like 2832 02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:49,480 OK, what is this what is this thing to keys. 2833 02:20:49,800 --> 02:20:53,240 I can go in and you're like, we'd sit and we can even we can 2834 02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:56,400 even activate AI in this and say, OK on my social media, like 2835 02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:58,160 what's been found? I mean, I I can show you guys 2836 02:20:58,320 --> 02:21:02,280 crazy things that have even manifested with that of it 2837 02:21:02,280 --> 02:21:05,240 knowing me pretty well and sending me even stuff that has 2838 02:21:05,240 --> 02:21:07,720 to do with keys. And so it's, and it's not like 2839 02:21:07,720 --> 02:21:10,320 this OCD thing or anything or whatever, but it's just. 2840 02:21:10,880 --> 02:21:13,040 Just. Something that pulls me into 2841 02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:15,080 something that like catches my mind, right. 2842 02:21:15,880 --> 02:21:19,840 And along this journey, like I ended up, you know, like I said, 2843 02:21:19,840 --> 02:21:23,880 I, I went to jail. One of my sentencing things that 2844 02:21:23,880 --> 02:21:28,040 I was sentenced to was I needed to be evaluated and, and have a, 2845 02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:31,960 have a therapist in place to be able to, you know, see what I 2846 02:21:31,960 --> 02:21:35,680 needed to do. And so I had to seek finding 2847 02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:37,480 those things. And I just wanted, I'd, I wanted 2848 02:21:37,480 --> 02:21:40,840 to be able to protect, protect that, that I used cannabis, 2849 02:21:41,440 --> 02:21:43,000 right? I didn't want that with the law 2850 02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:46,080 to like border anything and just wanted to stay strong with that 2851 02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:49,240 a little bit. And so I was choice about who I, 2852 02:21:49,400 --> 02:21:53,680 you know, who I found and I just happened to find Cliff Aukerman 2853 02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:58,160 at outpatient be able Behavioral Health in Salt Lake City. 2854 02:21:59,960 --> 02:22:03,400 That happened to bring me in and was able to introduce me a 2855 02:22:03,400 --> 02:22:08,280 little bit more to what cannabis therapy is and how to use it in 2856 02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:10,120 a therapeutics, you know, setting. 2857 02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:14,640 And just gave me some tools to be able to work with through 2858 02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:17,360 that process. Which kind of led me down the 2859 02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:20,920 path of, you know, really trying to get into some deep meditation 2860 02:22:20,920 --> 02:22:25,440 and get into finding who I am and kind of using the cannabis 2861 02:22:25,440 --> 02:22:28,360 tool to kind of get rid of old trauma. 2862 02:22:28,360 --> 02:22:31,000 And you know, it's gave me those tools to work down that path. 2863 02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:35,280 And so I started putting that all together and, you know, as I 2864 02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:38,880 started learning about vibration and energy and what, you know, 2865 02:22:38,960 --> 02:22:42,880 that as they're classified, you know, in a number scheme, it 2866 02:22:42,880 --> 02:22:46,280 kind of made sense to me of like, you know, fear, guilt, 2867 02:22:46,280 --> 02:22:49,240 shame or all low vibrational, you know, vibrations. 2868 02:22:49,720 --> 02:22:53,120 And so as I started like saying, OK, like applying the cannabis 2869 02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:57,360 with the therapy against the little word things that we sit 2870 02:22:57,360 --> 02:22:59,880 and draw through all the time, like part of our, you know, it's 2871 02:22:59,880 --> 02:23:01,280 part of the this is just therapy. 2872 02:23:01,840 --> 02:23:05,240 So I started doing a meditation and just do it like therapeutic. 2873 02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:08,480 Like this is what I want things to look like or this is how I'm 2874 02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:12,600 going to orchestrate things. And I was able to tie into those 2875 02:23:12,600 --> 02:23:14,840 traumas. And I kind of learned that like 2876 02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:20,320 through creativity that that you can shed those, those things 2877 02:23:20,320 --> 02:23:24,400 like layers of of onion, I like to call it like just shedding 2878 02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:26,760 that onion, you know. And so as I was doing this, like 2879 02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:29,760 I was getting results, I was getting tons of results. 2880 02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:31,560 And I'm like, this is just awesome. 2881 02:23:32,320 --> 02:23:35,840 And I had this vision where I've always worked with my hands. 2882 02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:40,360 I've always just been very, you know, and I kind of realized in 2883 02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:43,880 life, I'd kind of forgot how to do that, right? 2884 02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:46,400 And so I was like, no, I got to tap back into that because 2885 02:23:46,400 --> 02:23:48,200 that's going to bring something good. 2886 02:23:49,360 --> 02:23:51,320 And so I sat down and I'm like, you know what? 2887 02:23:51,320 --> 02:23:54,880 Like, what are you going to do? And I just happened to have this 2888 02:23:54,880 --> 02:23:56,760 experience where I'm not a golfer. 2889 02:23:56,760 --> 02:24:00,080 I work at a golf course, but I do not know anything about golf. 2890 02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:01,920 It was always too kind of frustrating for me. 2891 02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:05,840 But there was a gentleman at the first tee, Paul Pugmeyer. 2892 02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:09,680 He's a he runs the first, the First Tee of Utah, which they do 2893 02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:13,000 veterans golf and things. And he'd said, hey, I want to 2894 02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:16,920 get your first set of clubs. And he took me over to the to 2895 02:24:16,920 --> 02:24:19,400 the warehouse where they got all these clubs and was came time to 2896 02:24:19,400 --> 02:24:21,880 pick a putter. And he's like, well, you know, 2897 02:24:21,880 --> 02:24:26,720 picking a putter's kind of like picking like Harry, like a wand. 2898 02:24:26,880 --> 02:24:29,440 It's like Harry Potter's wand. It's going to like, it's just 2899 02:24:29,440 --> 02:24:31,920 going to call out to you. And they like have this whole 2900 02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:34,040 freaking thing of putters. And I'm just like, dude, that's 2901 02:24:34,040 --> 02:24:35,760 a lot of putters. Like this is crazy. 2902 02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:37,040 Like, and you just want me to choose one. 2903 02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:38,800 He's like, no, it'll choose you, you know, and I'm just like, 2904 02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:40,440 hey, I kind of believe in this shit. 2905 02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:41,800 So that's OK. Like, we'll see. 2906 02:24:42,520 --> 02:24:44,760 So I reached up on the thing and I kind of pulled this one putter 2907 02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:46,360 out and I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. 2908 02:24:46,360 --> 02:24:48,560 And pulled another one out and he's like, well, yeah, you 2909 02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:49,800 better. You better take two. 2910 02:24:49,800 --> 02:24:51,440 You know, you'll figure out which one you'll like. 2911 02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:55,040 Well, that second one I pulled out, it said the Cadillac on it. 2912 02:24:56,200 --> 02:24:58,480 OK. And I'm like the Cadillac, a 2913 02:24:58,480 --> 02:25:02,280 Cadillac freaking putter. That's pretty freaking who like 2914 02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:05,120 if, but if Cadillac can make a putter, why can't I? 2915 02:25:06,440 --> 02:25:09,520 Right, right, Why can't I? So I kind of started those 2916 02:25:09,520 --> 02:25:13,120 things and it wasn't until a point when they, they got this, 2917 02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:19,560 a donation to the first tee of these, of these clubs and, and, 2918 02:25:19,560 --> 02:25:23,520 and stuff that had come in, got this big old box and we'd gone 2919 02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:26,880 down and, and Brent started they, we started tearing them 2920 02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:30,120 apart and I pulled one out And as I pulled the, the, the club 2921 02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:33,280 out and the shaft, it sat on it, the key. 2922 02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:39,280 And that was the exact moment that I knew like, because I 2923 02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:42,840 served just fine, fine keys right in life that it was like, 2924 02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:44,840 wait a minute, that's it, that's it. 2925 02:25:44,840 --> 02:25:48,560 Like between if Cadillac can make a putter, why can't you? 2926 02:25:48,560 --> 02:25:50,760 And now you have some shafts and it says the key on it. 2927 02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:54,920 You better do something with it. So again, trial and error. 2928 02:25:54,920 --> 02:25:57,440 What are you going to do? I first wrote it down on paper 2929 02:25:57,440 --> 02:26:01,200 and then I, I've got a whole like, each stage that it went 2930 02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:04,920 through of, and it was heartfelt, like, OK, who's this 2931 02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:08,120 supposed to go to? And when I finally got down to 2932 02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:11,760 the last, I mean, I had ten of them that I handmade each one of 2933 02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:16,440 them blood, sweat and tears. I mean, I even ended up at my 2934 02:26:16,440 --> 02:26:20,520 father's home where he passed away two years ago. 2935 02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:23,560 And, you know, we had a kind of a tough relationship. 2936 02:26:23,880 --> 02:26:26,120 You know, we never saw. We're just too much alike. 2937 02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,480 But I ended up at his house because I was kind of in again, 2938 02:26:29,480 --> 02:26:31,240 I'm in humble stages again in life. 2939 02:26:32,200 --> 02:26:34,360 Being at the golf course has been very humble. 2940 02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:37,560 OK. And so that thing of, like, the 2941 02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:39,320 old Jeremy would have went out and just bought all the 2942 02:26:39,320 --> 02:26:41,480 machinery I needed to make the stuff, you know? 2943 02:26:41,480 --> 02:26:43,360 But like, I'm not on that budget anymore. 2944 02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:45,320 Yeah. So I had to be resourceful, 2945 02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:46,760 right? And I'm like, you know, and 2946 02:26:46,880 --> 02:26:49,280 almost at times, you think, like, maybe Dad was talking to 2947 02:26:49,280 --> 02:26:52,200 me, saying, hey, run over to my house and, like, grab this 2948 02:26:52,200 --> 02:26:54,000 stuff. It's there and you can use it. 2949 02:26:54,800 --> 02:26:56,640 I did that, man. Went and got it from a dad's 2950 02:26:56,640 --> 02:26:59,360 house, brought it, you know, to the back of the golf course and 2951 02:26:59,360 --> 02:27:02,360 started my journey. Because the time, like each one 2952 02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:08,720 I think took me about almost probably 6 hours, you know, to 2953 02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:11,600 sit and sand and do all the things 'cause I wanted to make 2954 02:27:11,600 --> 02:27:14,280 them just perfect. And then I had to figure out 2955 02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:15,640 that I can't make them all perfect. 2956 02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:18,120 Each one of them are just going to be however the hell they show 2957 02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:20,560 up because I don't have control of that, which is another 2958 02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:23,160 efficiency that I blew. I had to learn what I'm doing 2959 02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:30,120 right, But as I did that, I had to sit and like I started like 2960 02:27:30,120 --> 02:27:32,680 have this thing like who would I give one to or who would I 2961 02:27:33,160 --> 02:27:34,520 write? And it was like, no, it doesn't 2962 02:27:34,520 --> 02:27:36,760 matter. It it'll just, it'll manifest 2963 02:27:36,760 --> 02:27:38,360 itself whenever it's supposed to come. 2964 02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:45,600 And I've been going on my normal routine, you know, home on and 2965 02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:48,200 listening to you guys for a long time. 2966 02:27:48,880 --> 02:27:55,280 And I had done a meditation and, and I came in and this was what 2967 02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:58,840 I wrote after the meditation. And it's just all of these 2968 02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:01,280 things in life that I needed to do and there's a bunch of check 2969 02:28:01,280 --> 02:28:05,320 marks on them. And down here in the bottom, I 2970 02:28:05,320 --> 02:28:08,680 had this idea of like, I'd be really cool that it be a do a 2971 02:28:08,680 --> 02:28:10,960 podcast. The more the marijuana Mormon 2972 02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:14,520 and I wrote right below it contact cannabis school. 2973 02:28:15,400 --> 02:28:17,440 OK, because always at the end of your thing, you guys have the 2974 02:28:17,440 --> 02:28:20,240 thing about Spotify or whatever. It is really easy and all this 2975 02:28:20,240 --> 02:28:21,800 other stuff. And so I'm just, it was like, Oh 2976 02:28:21,880 --> 02:28:24,680 gosh, I got to, you know, but I got to get them first. 2977 02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:28,320 And so I like had this thing of these care packages you got 2978 02:28:28,320 --> 02:28:30,720 today. We're like already sitting in 2979 02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:33,360 the PGA building. Like all of my guys, they're 2980 02:28:33,360 --> 02:28:37,440 like blown away because like they, we've had this discussion, 2981 02:28:37,440 --> 02:28:40,440 they've listened to the sad, like there's all these things, 2982 02:28:40,480 --> 02:28:42,760 right? And so like when all of these 2983 02:28:42,880 --> 02:28:47,520 things came together and it just was like, like, how did how did 2984 02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:49,360 we make this? How do we make? 2985 02:28:49,360 --> 02:28:51,600 This matter like how did all this just happen? 2986 02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:55,080 And like, I'm really like freaking here and just like 2987 02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:58,200 hanging out with you guys and just, you know, just doing this 2988 02:28:58,200 --> 02:29:01,760 thing and that's I don't know that I it's just weird. 2989 02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:05,160 I I it's AI mean goosebumps. It's just a paradigm of, of 2990 02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:08,120 weirdness. You know, to go back to, to the 2991 02:29:08,120 --> 02:29:10,600 shapes. You know, one of the big things 2992 02:29:10,600 --> 02:29:13,000 that Jesse did right out of the, you know, the gates there was 2993 02:29:13,840 --> 02:29:15,520 made me feel loved, made me feel loved. 2994 02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:20,520 He reciprocated the love that that I threw out to him and was 2995 02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:24,720 automatically already knew what he had to do, right. 2996 02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:26,520 And he sends me he sends me here. 2997 02:29:26,520 --> 02:29:29,480 Take the shape, Squiz, you know, And so when you first get pushed 2998 02:29:29,480 --> 02:29:31,320 on something like, oh God, he's just trying to sell. 2999 02:29:31,320 --> 02:29:33,280 Something right? He's just trying to sell. 3000 02:29:33,320 --> 02:29:36,160 No, I'm just, let me tell you A. Story No, I'm just sitting here. 3001 02:29:36,160 --> 02:29:38,080 But that's where you come out and you're like, OK, well, maybe 3002 02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:41,720 I'll open it up, you know? And again, because when you're 3003 02:29:41,920 --> 02:29:44,880 self checking, the universe does not bring you things like like 3004 02:29:44,880 --> 02:29:48,520 you better, you better freaking do what's happening, right? 3005 02:29:48,520 --> 02:29:50,440 And then you get to the point you're like, shit, he wants me 3006 02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:53,800 to put my e-mail in. Good gosh, like OK, well, I 3007 02:29:53,800 --> 02:29:56,480 guess I can, I can do that, right? 3008 02:29:57,040 --> 02:29:59,720 But what it unlocked because this just happened to be a date 3009 02:29:59,720 --> 02:30:04,560 weekend for me and my wife. OK, so I process it and I did 3010 02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:06,560 this and I'm telling her all about, I mean, this is just, you 3011 02:30:06,560 --> 02:30:08,240 know, you just like this just happened. 3012 02:30:08,240 --> 02:30:12,560 And you know, my wife's she's she, she's an Oval, OK, she's an 3013 02:30:12,560 --> 02:30:15,200 Oval. And so, you know, Jesse's, I 3014 02:30:15,200 --> 02:30:17,000 mean, like, damn, my wife, he wants to know my wife. 3015 02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:19,600 He sends me the stuff, you know, And so we just happen to be up 3016 02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:22,600 in Wyoming and we're having our date and reading this stuff. 3017 02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:27,800 And we, I cannot explain to you what it opened up just by two 3018 02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:33,560 humans having this little thing to say, Oh my gosh, that's how I 3019 02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:35,200 am. And Oh my gosh, that's, and 3020 02:30:35,200 --> 02:30:39,200 you're not trying to do this to me and you're not like we had 3021 02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:42,360 this new realization of like, Oh my gosh, this is a whole new 3022 02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:45,120 level of friendship that I didn't know could exist. 3023 02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:47,720 Now we've been working through that the last few days. 3024 02:30:47,720 --> 02:30:49,080 It's a work in progress. Right. 3025 02:30:49,080 --> 02:30:52,560 Oh, totally. But to have that blueprint? 3026 02:30:53,240 --> 02:30:55,320 It's a CHEAT SHEET. To know that. 3027 02:30:55,600 --> 02:30:57,680 This is how they act. This is who they are. 3028 02:30:57,720 --> 02:30:59,520 That's how they're. Wired and they're not doing it 3029 02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:01,720 to try to hurt me like you. Can just see when they're in 3030 02:31:01,720 --> 02:31:03,280 their positive state or their negative. 3031 02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:05,720 State, well, even if they're in a negative state, you can go, 3032 02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:09,080 well, they're just saying this out of a place of love because 3033 02:31:09,080 --> 02:31:13,160 they want these things for me. Oh, OK, so you don't go in with 3034 02:31:13,760 --> 02:31:15,520 I got to be right. Exactly. 3035 02:31:15,560 --> 02:31:19,280 Yeah, because, but that's that part of like all the tools in my 3036 02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:20,880 toolbox that I've got up to this point. 3037 02:31:20,880 --> 02:31:23,360 I thought I was like pinging, right? 3038 02:31:23,440 --> 02:31:28,160 And this like opened up a new like a new toolbox of like, OK, 3039 02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:30,600 well this. Is dude, it's the funniest thing 3040 02:31:30,600 --> 02:31:32,720 that like that, like you're like, oh, he's trying to sell 3041 02:31:32,720 --> 02:31:34,480 me. Like I have been purposeful on 3042 02:31:34,480 --> 02:31:37,080 that because I, I know what it's done for me. 3043 02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:42,480 And I just, I have all the shapes and stuff like that, the 3044 02:31:42,480 --> 02:31:45,560 full reports. And I'll always tell somebody is 3045 02:31:45,560 --> 02:31:47,600 like, take it, put my name in there. 3046 02:31:47,800 --> 02:31:52,040 So the e-mail campaign doesn't go to you because if you don't 3047 02:31:52,040 --> 02:31:54,720 put my name in there, you don't select me as a coach. 3048 02:31:55,520 --> 02:31:58,640 It will send you into this e-mail campaign. 3049 02:31:58,920 --> 02:32:02,680 And it's not good right now, but it's great. 3050 02:32:02,840 --> 02:32:05,000 I say that and they go, oh, you want my e-mail? 3051 02:32:05,000 --> 02:32:07,440 No, no, no. So the emails don't come to you. 3052 02:32:07,680 --> 02:32:09,320 The only thing you're going to get is the shape. 3053 02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:13,360 And I go take it, have fun. And then always people go, well, 3054 02:32:13,360 --> 02:32:15,000 how much does this cost? I'm like, no, no, no. 3055 02:32:15,000 --> 02:32:16,960 Something has changed my life. And there's two things. 3056 02:32:16,960 --> 02:32:19,960 It's not. It's not an MLM and it's not a 3057 02:32:19,960 --> 02:32:21,640 supplement. And they go. 3058 02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:23,360 OK, well what do I got to do for it? 3059 02:32:23,560 --> 02:32:25,480 Take it and I'll give it to you then. 3060 02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:27,600 What do we do with that threat? You have any questions, let me 3061 02:32:27,600 --> 02:32:29,720 know. It's it like? 3062 02:32:29,720 --> 02:32:31,800 Speaks for itself. It really does it. 3063 02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:35,200 Does I and I and I I think that's that part and that's 3064 02:32:35,200 --> 02:32:39,400 where I come to this, you know, being able to be so blessed to 3065 02:32:39,400 --> 02:32:44,560 be able to meet Kim and Jesse in all of that right in in in that 3066 02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:49,040 journey of just putting it together like is mind blowing. 3067 02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:55,360 I mean, to have this experience in my life to, you know, to, to 3068 02:32:55,360 --> 02:32:57,280 share truth. I mean, that's, that's what it 3069 02:32:57,280 --> 02:33:00,520 freaking boils down to is just being honest. 3070 02:33:00,800 --> 02:33:02,920 Yeah, and being, I mean, that's being true. 3071 02:33:03,240 --> 02:33:05,080 And that's one of the things I've loved about that. 3072 02:33:05,400 --> 02:33:07,960 You know, Brandon, I always say that because, you know, I 3073 02:33:07,960 --> 02:33:10,520 wouldn't have, it wouldn't have worked out the way it did, man. 3074 02:33:10,680 --> 02:33:12,040 It wouldn't have worked out the way it did. 3075 02:33:12,680 --> 02:33:18,480 And I had to meet his, his cousin, marry her, not really be 3076 02:33:18,480 --> 02:33:19,920 friends. He used to hang out with his 3077 02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:24,640 brother and then this just happened, like I was in a bad 3078 02:33:24,640 --> 02:33:27,720 spot in my life. And he's like, dude, you need a 3079 02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:29,520 job. Well, the call center, I 3080 02:33:29,520 --> 02:33:31,480 workouts higher and you should get it over there. 3081 02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:34,960 And he was so awesome to me. Like he showed me how to do it 3082 02:33:34,960 --> 02:33:38,640 this like my first sales job. And he's like, this is how you 3083 02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:40,320 do it. And he gives me a quick win and 3084 02:33:40,320 --> 02:33:43,160 gave me the sale. And I see a pop up on the board. 3085 02:33:43,160 --> 02:33:46,440 I'm like, this guy's all right. And yeah, yeah, he is. 3086 02:33:46,440 --> 02:33:50,240 He's he's brought me into this and I I always been doing the 3087 02:33:50,240 --> 02:33:52,400 same, like we're always looking out for each other. 3088 02:33:52,760 --> 02:33:55,960 I but cannabis will do that with almost anybody. 3089 02:33:55,960 --> 02:33:59,760 If if you know like the fact that you had cannabis and I that 3090 02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:03,360 we both use cannabis and we met each other when they did instant 3091 02:34:03,360 --> 02:34:06,880 Bon, yes, instant bon. Instant. 3092 02:34:07,200 --> 02:34:09,320 And it's just. And, and it's like that in every 3093 02:34:09,320 --> 02:34:11,600 situation, anytime it comes. Yeah, anywhere. 3094 02:34:11,600 --> 02:34:12,520 Onto it. Doesn't it? 3095 02:34:13,160 --> 02:34:16,880 Though anywhere, anywhere. So it's there's no mistakes in 3096 02:34:16,920 --> 02:34:20,240 it and it was so awesome because it would, it just feels so 3097 02:34:20,240 --> 02:34:23,680 amazing to be able to do that and you're going to be making 3098 02:34:23,680 --> 02:34:26,440 all these putters. Well, that's the I mean, that's 3099 02:34:26,440 --> 02:34:30,960 The thing is we've, we've, I've handmade the tan. 3100 02:34:33,640 --> 02:34:39,080 I've still got two left to, to give away the the first one that 3101 02:34:39,080 --> 02:34:46,640 we, that we, that I presented, created a a very, you know, 3102 02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:52,040 generous situation to be able to make it grow a little bit more 3103 02:34:52,040 --> 02:34:54,920 and to make it more, you know, more more profitable. 3104 02:34:54,920 --> 02:34:58,080 We had and then, you know, like these little things came into to 3105 02:34:58,080 --> 02:35:00,400 push us to building kind of like a political putter. 3106 02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:06,720 But my, I'm all for trying to help with PTSD. 3107 02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:11,560 Then in a situation where, you know, trying to to to not quite 3108 02:35:11,560 --> 02:35:14,320 sure what all that looks like right now, like the framework of 3109 02:35:14,320 --> 02:35:19,920 it all, but, you know, to helping, you know, convicts or, 3110 02:35:19,960 --> 02:35:23,800 you know, felons getting out of jail, wanting to change their 3111 02:35:23,800 --> 02:35:27,360 life like they do with with the Tribal House of Utah. 3112 02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:31,280 They're helping, helping guys and using cannabis to be able 3113 02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:35,680 to, you know, help them further their lives, giving them a new 3114 02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:40,240 start, right, new direction. So there's things that are out 3115 02:35:40,240 --> 02:35:44,320 there, but I think it, it, it comes down to the awareness 3116 02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:48,600 though, to hear a little bit more of the good stories that 3117 02:35:48,600 --> 02:35:50,320 are out there surrounding cannabis. 3118 02:35:50,320 --> 02:35:53,440 And I think that's what this has done has been able to open up 3119 02:35:53,440 --> 02:35:56,840 that opportunity, you know, to be able to do it. 3120 02:35:56,840 --> 02:36:01,040 And that's what I'm so grateful for is just, you know, to be 3121 02:36:01,040 --> 02:36:06,200 able to, to experience it, to be able to, to be a part of what's 3122 02:36:06,200 --> 02:36:09,640 happening because consciousness is it, it, it's common guys. 3123 02:36:09,640 --> 02:36:12,320 Like it's come, like we got it. We got to learn about, like we 3124 02:36:12,320 --> 02:36:15,560 got to learn about it. It's just a phase of, of, of, 3125 02:36:16,040 --> 02:36:18,640 you know, this life that we're, that we're in and, and we've 3126 02:36:18,640 --> 02:36:21,600 just got to accept it. And The thing is, is, you know, 3127 02:36:21,600 --> 02:36:25,440 we're reaping the, the rewards by being able to do it. 3128 02:36:25,440 --> 02:36:28,040 It's unlike anything that's, you know, that's out there. 3129 02:36:28,040 --> 02:36:29,640 I mean, it's just, it's just beautiful. 3130 02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:32,760 Yeah, it is beautiful. And you have this organization. 3131 02:36:32,760 --> 02:36:36,000 Tell us about this organization. It's not it's or what it is this 3132 02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:40,640 this is a little situation where I have a ADJ. 3133 02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:47,720 It was one of my employees and he has an amazing life that he's 3134 02:36:47,720 --> 02:36:49,320 kind of lived. He ended up becoming an 3135 02:36:49,320 --> 02:36:52,920 employee, like I said, and just kind of through, you know, 3136 02:36:52,920 --> 02:36:55,680 cannabis and just talking and just being real. 3137 02:36:57,240 --> 02:36:59,200 He came up with the greenskeepers. 3138 02:37:00,080 --> 02:37:04,920 I was the greenskeeper OK of the place and I started making these 3139 02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:06,920 putters because my first one was a can. 3140 02:37:07,000 --> 02:37:08,640 It's a big freaking cannabis leaf. 3141 02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:11,640 It was just it looks so gaudy and ugly, but it served the 3142 02:37:11,640 --> 02:37:14,280 purpose because I had to it had to start somewhere, right? 3143 02:37:14,840 --> 02:37:19,440 And so as that came on and just kept collaborating and he I kind 3144 02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:21,360 of pushed him OK, we got to get the website going. 3145 02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:24,480 We're going to find somebody like, and he did his due 3146 02:37:24,480 --> 02:37:27,280 diligence, but I was just there as, as the probe, you know, just 3147 02:37:27,280 --> 02:37:29,520 kind of like, hey, we're going to do this, do this and he'd be 3148 02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:30,920 on me. Are we getting the putter done 3149 02:37:30,920 --> 02:37:34,600 or you doing your, you know, as little help and as the kind of 3150 02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:39,720 two came together, it just, you know, it was kind of a golf, a 3151 02:37:39,720 --> 02:37:44,200 Golf Club kind of a thing. We we both have different, you 3152 02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:48,880 know, purposes of it, but he's got a dream of, you know, trying 3153 02:37:48,880 --> 02:37:54,880 to promote, you know, cannabis golf tournaments that, you know, 3154 02:37:54,880 --> 02:37:58,400 was a place where we can come together with cannabis on a golf 3155 02:37:58,400 --> 02:37:59,800 course and really. Fantastic. 3156 02:38:00,520 --> 02:38:04,240 We have tents in key places and you can. 3157 02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:07,160 Stop and yeah, sash at. Or whatever logs you got. 3158 02:38:07,160 --> 02:38:08,720 I mean, however we can make that work. 3159 02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:12,840 But if we could bring the but bringing the bringing the well, 3160 02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:16,360 bringing the cannabis, you know, world somewhere and bringing it 3161 02:38:16,360 --> 02:38:18,840 together, whatever that looks like, I don't know. 3162 02:38:18,840 --> 02:38:20,360 I mean, there's. A Well, but I mean, I think 3163 02:38:20,360 --> 02:38:23,160 that's a great thing with the starting with the putter because 3164 02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:27,120 the reason I mean that the whole story with it and knowing that 3165 02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:29,200 you can be a part of it, you're going to you're going to 3166 02:38:29,200 --> 02:38:31,000 eventually sell these, right? Well, yeah. 3167 02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:34,040 So they're, they're this next week we'll have the we're just, 3168 02:38:34,720 --> 02:38:36,960 we've ordered, well we're starting with 100. 3169 02:38:36,960 --> 02:38:39,200 So we've ordered a hundred of them, right? 3170 02:38:39,200 --> 02:38:40,880 So they'll be, they'll be coming in. 3171 02:38:41,640 --> 02:38:43,760 No, wait, the first one we've done was just 50. 3172 02:38:43,760 --> 02:38:47,040 So I've just done A50 of this model of this type of one. 3173 02:38:48,880 --> 02:38:50,840 We're going to split it up as you know, as the cannabis 3174 02:38:50,840 --> 02:38:52,840 putter. We are going to put it on eBay 3175 02:38:53,920 --> 02:38:56,960 and just see how many greenskeepers are out there and 3176 02:38:56,960 --> 02:38:59,560 want to be a part of this. And like I said, we're going to 3177 02:38:59,560 --> 02:39:01,840 set it up to where it's coming back to help, you know, with 3178 02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:06,280 PTSD felons, you know, working through things or even veterans. 3179 02:39:07,200 --> 02:39:10,720 We get a lot of veterans out to our golf course and, you know, 3180 02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:13,880 they're suffering from PTSD. Two, we've had a lot come around 3181 02:39:13,880 --> 02:39:17,240 that are using cannabis to be able to, you know, cope with 3182 02:39:17,240 --> 02:39:18,880 those things. And so it's just kind of that 3183 02:39:18,880 --> 02:39:22,840 thing where we feel like we want to, you know, give back at the 3184 02:39:22,840 --> 02:39:24,600 same time. Yeah, so. 3185 02:39:24,760 --> 02:39:26,600 I think there's a lot of beautiful things that could be 3186 02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:28,160 done around that. Yeah. 3187 02:39:28,720 --> 02:39:30,520 And we want to help out with that for sure. 3188 02:39:31,160 --> 02:39:35,760 So you know, one we'll, we'll figure out way to be able to 3189 02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:37,760 help you get that website up even faster. 3190 02:39:38,960 --> 02:39:41,240 I've got a lot of friends and contacts within the marketing 3191 02:39:41,240 --> 02:39:43,680 community. So that would be really cool for 3192 02:39:43,680 --> 02:39:46,480 them to be a part of it. And then, you know, for those 3193 02:39:46,480 --> 02:39:51,040 that are listening or watching, if you get to watch it, Spotify. 3194 02:39:52,520 --> 02:39:57,360 For those last week, we actually had our Tuesday episode aired 3195 02:39:57,400 --> 02:40:00,280 everywhere but Spotify. Yeah, something happened with 3196 02:40:00,280 --> 02:40:02,480 the video and they didn't pick like. 3197 02:40:03,160 --> 02:40:05,880 I was dealing with them all yesterday, so I still have to go 3198 02:40:05,880 --> 02:40:10,440 fix that, get that one back up. But yeah, for everyone else on 3199 02:40:10,480 --> 02:40:12,760 Spotify watching. Yeah, if you're if you're 3200 02:40:12,760 --> 02:40:17,720 watching, message us if you're if you're interested in getting 3201 02:40:17,720 --> 02:40:19,600 one of those, we'll get you in touch with Jeremy. 3202 02:40:20,080 --> 02:40:21,520 So the. Links will be below. 3203 02:40:21,520 --> 02:40:22,960 Yeah. All of them will be down there. 3204 02:40:23,080 --> 02:40:24,920 Well, all of you are going to be greenskeepers, that's the thing. 3205 02:40:24,920 --> 02:40:27,160 Just bring you into the club. I mean, you might be all over 3206 02:40:27,160 --> 02:40:29,960 the United States, but at some point we might have a big golf 3207 02:40:29,960 --> 02:40:33,280 course and everybody can. Oh, yeah, No, our our Utah 3208 02:40:33,280 --> 02:40:35,960 audience is growing. I've I've been meeting a lot of 3209 02:40:35,960 --> 02:40:38,800 people. Now every time I go by the 3210 02:40:38,800 --> 02:40:41,840 dispo, people will recognize my voice. 3211 02:40:42,800 --> 02:40:44,320 Yeah, that's a weird. Thing to get recognized by. 3212 02:40:44,640 --> 02:40:46,280 Right. Yeah, They're just like, hey, I 3213 02:40:46,280 --> 02:40:48,080 know that voice. And. 3214 02:40:48,080 --> 02:40:49,560 I'm like, yeah, hey, how's it going? 3215 02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:53,320 They're just like, I, I just think it's cool, man, because 3216 02:40:53,320 --> 02:40:56,320 it's, it's so cool to meet other people that are on that same 3217 02:40:56,320 --> 02:40:58,920 journey. And we created this for you. 3218 02:40:58,920 --> 02:41:01,040 Exactly. For everybody listening. 3219 02:41:01,040 --> 02:41:04,160 We created it for you. And this what This is why, 3220 02:41:04,160 --> 02:41:07,320 Brandon, I've been doing this for almost every week for the 3221 02:41:07,320 --> 02:41:11,880 last three years. We record and we, we, we don't 3222 02:41:11,880 --> 02:41:13,480 know. We didn't know what it was going 3223 02:41:13,480 --> 02:41:14,680 to do. We didn't think it was going to 3224 02:41:14,680 --> 02:41:17,480 get to the size it did. But I got to tell you, dude, we 3225 02:41:17,480 --> 02:41:21,360 just, we're just barely scratching the surface and it's 3226 02:41:21,360 --> 02:41:26,440 being able to unite with other, you know, cannabis, cannabis 3227 02:41:26,440 --> 02:41:30,080 enthusiasts, cannabis consumers that have found it's always a 3228 02:41:30,080 --> 02:41:32,800 lot more than expected. That get it to like the next 3229 02:41:32,800 --> 02:41:33,640 stage. Totally it. 3230 02:41:33,640 --> 02:41:34,280 Does. Yeah. 3231 02:41:34,800 --> 02:41:37,120 Because without it, I mean, when you look at life, I mean there's 3232 02:41:37,520 --> 02:41:37,760 not. Much. 3233 02:41:37,760 --> 02:41:39,120 You can't do everything alone. You can't. 3234 02:41:39,280 --> 02:41:42,160 No, it's not helping. Life on your own and definitely 3235 02:41:42,160 --> 02:41:44,360 cannabis is a tool. It's an aid. 3236 02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:46,960 Can it be something bad? Sure. 3237 02:41:47,520 --> 02:41:50,200 Anything can be abused. Anything can be abused and and 3238 02:41:50,200 --> 02:41:53,720 that's the thing of having respect and knowing yourself and 3239 02:41:53,720 --> 02:41:56,880 loving yourself enough, right? And sometimes when we get in 3240 02:41:56,880 --> 02:41:58,840 those, you know, in those places like. 3241 02:41:59,280 --> 02:42:01,720 Depressive States. It has to be what it needs to be 3242 02:42:01,720 --> 02:42:03,680 to get you where you got to get right. 3243 02:42:04,320 --> 02:42:06,280 Get you to where you have to go through those hard moments. 3244 02:42:06,280 --> 02:42:09,360 I mean, that's what makes us into the people that we are, you 3245 02:42:09,360 --> 02:42:13,520 know, coming out the other side. So it is we got to suffer. 3246 02:42:13,880 --> 02:42:16,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No pain, no progress without 3247 02:42:16,640 --> 02:42:20,320 pain. So just kind of sit in it then 3248 02:42:20,320 --> 02:42:22,920 it's OK. But if you're having a real 3249 02:42:22,920 --> 02:42:25,600 difficult time, you know, if you've got somebody that can be 3250 02:42:25,600 --> 02:42:27,920 able to listen to you or help you if you're having 3251 02:42:27,920 --> 02:42:29,600 difficulties, please reach out to them. 3252 02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:32,560 If not, we'll even put it like a link down there to suicide 3253 02:42:32,560 --> 02:42:35,800 prevention hotline over there to be able to help you out if 3254 02:42:35,800 --> 02:42:39,600 you're having difficulties. And you know what, we're always 3255 02:42:39,600 --> 02:42:42,400 really open to it too. If you're having struggles and 3256 02:42:42,400 --> 02:42:44,600 you feel like talking to one of us is going to help. 3257 02:42:44,600 --> 02:42:46,280 Outreach out. Yeah, totally. 3258 02:42:46,280 --> 02:42:49,760 We, we always respond. I don't think there's ever been 3259 02:42:49,760 --> 02:42:52,720 something that's come to us an e-mail and they're like, no, not 3260 02:42:52,720 --> 02:42:55,200 today. Oh, there's definitely days that 3261 02:42:55,200 --> 02:42:57,520 it's like, no, not today. But then we e-mail them back 3262 02:42:57,520 --> 02:42:59,000 later. But it's usually just kind of 3263 02:42:59,000 --> 02:43:01,000 stress and all the other shit that's going on. 3264 02:43:01,000 --> 02:43:03,680 It's like, oh fuck, I can't. No, that's that's tomorrow 3265 02:43:03,680 --> 02:43:05,040 problem. It's good though. 3266 02:43:05,040 --> 02:43:08,320 And, and I think the funniest things when when people hit us 3267 02:43:08,320 --> 02:43:10,640 up, they go, Oh my gosh, I didn't think you'd respond. 3268 02:43:11,320 --> 02:43:13,320 Like, what? What do you think we're like? 3269 02:43:13,360 --> 02:43:16,400 Oh yeah, I was out of my yacht smoking a blunt. 3270 02:43:17,400 --> 02:43:19,600 What I do? Who are these people messaging 3271 02:43:19,600 --> 02:43:20,960 me or? Cousins. 3272 02:43:21,000 --> 02:43:22,800 Fuck off. Can't talk to them. 3273 02:43:22,800 --> 02:43:24,960 It's it. We, we love all of you. 3274 02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:28,640 We truly love all of you. And we're so glad you guys have 3275 02:43:28,640 --> 02:43:30,920 been along for the journey. Jeremy, thank you so much. 3276 02:43:31,160 --> 02:43:33,400 To ride your lawn mower and tuning in every. 3277 02:43:33,440 --> 02:43:35,680 Yeah, I mean. And then coming on the show, 3278 02:43:35,680 --> 02:43:38,200 this has been amazing, man. We made it. 3279 02:43:38,240 --> 02:43:41,480 Happen guys, this is awesome. Guys.