1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,000 I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse we're. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,840 Cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,200 With everyday. People, cannabis companies, 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,280 celebrities, and your mom. Welcome to the SASH. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,240 Cool thing. I'm working with this functional 6 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:20,520 medicine clinic dude, and they had this awesome thing. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,120 They're like, they've got everything from this huge 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,840 hyperbaric chamber. If you want to be able to do 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,080 that, red light therapy, ketamine treatments, IV 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,200 treatments, you. Can pass it. 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,600 That's a lot. It's a lot, yeah. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,360 Yeah, it's a lot I. Didn't think it's big enough. 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,560 No, it's just a big, big ass hit on there. 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:43,240 So you're good. Yeah, this piece has some quite 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,160 the hits it can take. Well, they had this cool thing 16 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:48,040 called Brain Tap. You ever heard of that? 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Oh dude, it's fucking cool. You would love it. 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,800 It literally feels like a mushroom trip. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,160 OK, and wait, what? Where'd you? 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Get you have headphones and an advisor and the advisor has 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,320 light and they have light going through your ears too and they 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,920 use it where there will be a guided one and it will tell you 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,600 through it but it will be saying almost subliminal messages on 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,160 the side and dude and within 5 minutes you're you don't feel 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,720 your body anymore without. Drugs. 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,880 This is without drugs. Oh, I need to buy that sucker. 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Dude, it is. It's amazing. 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,920 I cannot even conceptualize how somebody can be in a hypnotic 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,840 state without. Yeah, I'm just not even like, 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,800 you're gonna tell me all these subliminum? 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,680 I'm thinking about my business, guys. 32 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,040 Have you? I bet. 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,440 So the only time I've ever experienced anything like that 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,320 without drugs, Wim Hof breathing. 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,520 I, I when you said that, I was gonna say I've done it with with 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,040 breathing, but not that. It's still not as intense. 37 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Yeah, I've been 30. Minutes straight that I was 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,720 doing it and I'm like. Mine was like a a week, several 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,120 weeks in a row that I had gotten to it and it was in my holding 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,040 breath state. And it was, I'd got to four 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,960 minutes of holding my breath. Yeah. 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:03,000 And in that time, every fiber of my being was I felt like I was 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,600 so high. I felt tingling through 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,560 everything and it was the most incredible experience and I was 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,360 like, this is just from breathing. 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,480 Dude, yeah, that's it. That one time I was over at 47 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Adam's house and he had, we did this guided breathing, right? 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,120 And dude, by the time like I was this what? 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,960 I felt like I was in the middle. I was floating up like that 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,480 chick and Stranger Things, right? 51 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,680 I'm like floating into the sky. And it was, everything was 52 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,280 white. There was no seams. 53 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,920 It was just white. And I'm floating up. 54 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:34,000 And then this guy goes and let out your roar and he hits his 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,840 gong and the whole sky just went like rainbow shit everywhere. 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,480 And I was like what the fuck? And I'm floating. 57 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,360 And when I came out of it, dude, I was fucking bawling. 58 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,120 I didn't even know that. And Adam was bawling. 59 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,400 And this other dude, he was bawling. 60 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,880 Like I was just like, what the fuck? 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,880 I couldn't even realize it. Like it was just gone to another 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,920 dimension. I, I did one with the lady in 63 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:59,560 Orem and she had a gong too. And she's like scream, you know? 64 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,640 And then she's like, you won't even be able to hear yourself 65 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:03,640 scream with this gong so fucking loud. 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,800 And at the end, you know, 11 girl sharing her experience and 67 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,560 in tears. No, no, first one. 68 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,240 She's like that was the most beautiful experience. 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,120 Like it was orgasmic for me. And then the lady next to her, 70 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,880 she's like crying. She's like, man, how are you 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,480 having that experience? That'd. 72 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,360 Be awesome, right? You're having that orgasm. 73 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,040 States that you can get in I I do breath work while I'm in the 74 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,520 ice bath. I'll do a minute of just normal 75 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,480 breathing and then two minutes of hyperventilating and then 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,320 hold my breath and it makes it actually wait. 77 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,760 I mean the whole Wim Hof thing is how to control your body. 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Temperature. Yeah. 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Well, I I've seen what got me into trying it was I started 80 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,640 watching these videos, it was popping up and it was all this 81 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,440 stuff on Wim Hof. And it was Wim Hof out sleeping 82 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,920 in snow in shorts and regulating his body temperature through the 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,080 night just from the breathing that he does. 84 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Him getting injected with an actual disease or illness, then 85 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,160 watching it go into his body and then he made using blood like 86 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,760 his breathing to fight it off and basically kill or remove 87 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,240 that. And I was like, this is 88 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,760 incredible. And the fact that he could 89 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,800 teach. Yeah, that was it. 90 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,400 So that then they're like, OK, you're just a fucking weirdo. 91 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,720 Yeah, nobody else. That's just you're an anomaly. 92 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,920 And then he took like a dozen people. 93 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Yeah, hiking up Count or Mount Kilimanjaro in their shorts. 94 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Taught them. Taught them how to. 95 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,160 They also taught them. To to resist that bacteria. 96 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,280 Yeah. And so that, that was when it 97 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:30,960 was like, OK, cool. Well then there's something 98 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 maybe that I could do. And I, I still haven't done it 99 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,920 regularly continuing now. But like back then, I did it for 100 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,440 several weeks and I got to that point and I was like, holy cow. 101 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,960 It's powerful stuff, yeah. Just just not as easy as eating 102 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,960 mushrooms, yeah. I know, right? 103 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,440 I've noticed that's helped me a lot. 104 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,440 I have been doing quite a bit of micro dosing this last month. 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,360 So yeah, it's been. Good. 106 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,840 No, it's been really good. Oh, let's. 107 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,320 I'm feeling it now. Yeah, this is a great way to 108 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,080 start, Yeah. Blue City Diesel. 109 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Welcome to this sash. Yeah, hey everybody. 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,320 And we have a wonderful friend of ours, Ben and Maxwell. 111 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Super cool guy. We'll get into everything about 112 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,600 him, but man, dude, thank you for. 113 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,080 Coming dude, thanks for the invite. 114 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,360 This is long overdue 'cause last time, yeah, we were gonna do. 115 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,960 We got way too high. We got way too high before it 116 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,440 even started, and then we spent two hours at Smith's buying 117 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,320 snacks. Before we ever even got to set 118 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,480 up, record or do anything. Yeah, we got back and we were 119 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,000 just too high, you know. But it's kind of good though, 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,040 because, you know, so much has changed. 121 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,720 We we have this brand new episodes that come out on 122 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,280 Thursdays now and the audience has absolutely loved it. 123 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,280 They have gone nuts for it. Our our numbers are showing it 124 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:57,360 and we're seeing so much more traffic from it. 125 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,280 So we just keep creating this. But man, the coolest thing is, 126 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:08,600 is knowing this guy, So how we met was we were looking for 127 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,360 companies to sponsor, sponsor the podcast. 128 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,360 And I saw a cookie company and I was high. 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,280 And I said, you know what, I'm gonna reach out to him. 130 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:20,000 And I reach out and their marketing girl's like, yeah, you 131 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,640 wants to talk to you. And they're like, oh, cool. 132 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,760 And we start talking and then we just find out that we're both 133 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,120 into cannabis. And, you know, nothing 134 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,360 materialized out of this sponsorship thing. 135 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,360 But what? Just a good friend. 136 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,720 Yeah. An amazing. 137 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Friend, we don't have money. Well, I mean, but. 138 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,640 But that's the thing though, it doesn't even matter because, you 139 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,560 know, it was so much cooler because we just thought, you 140 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,320 know, cookies and cannabis that meshes now you're everywhere, 141 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:48,160 right? I mean, how many? 142 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,800 How? Where are you really like? 143 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:54,160 We are in 20 something states. I was, I was trying to count and 144 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,080 I think we're anyways, we got two more states opening this 145 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,280 month. So that's awesome. 146 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:00,440 It's exciting. Yeah, we're at 70 something. 147 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,560 That's great. That's fantastic. 148 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,800 And it wasn't there before. When we first met, it was. 149 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Like, yeah, I mean, we went from 7 to 70 in in a year. 150 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,400 That's an that's that's. Crazy. 151 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,680 And, and these are Dirty Dough's a cookie franchise, So these are 152 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,040 brick and mortar stores or food trucks or whatever. 153 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Yeah, that's, that's amazing. Most people still know about 154 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,280 what Dirty Dough is, but that's a well, that's what we're trying 155 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,240 to create, yeah. Well, I mean, definitely we'll 156 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,960 we'll have to get like a, a list of those places and, and put 157 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,200 them up for everybody around here so you guys can go enjoy 158 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,560 these this man's cookies. Wow, that sounded bad. 159 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,800 Go go get this man's cookies. Kind of cradle them. 160 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,680 It was right before this Jesse for the first time asked if he 161 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,200 could put some of my nuts in his. 162 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Mouth. Yeah, I was over there, you 163 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,000 guys, these pistachios. I'm like, hey man, I've never 164 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,640 asked this of you, but let me grab some of your nuts. 165 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,800 Sorry for breaking up that bromance. 166 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,600 No, I'm doing well, you know. Jesse's washing his hands. 167 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,680 I was like, what are you doing over there? 168 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,200 I'm washing them, rubbing, rubbing alcohol like going to 169 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,480 put this in my. Eyes too, I want to forget. 170 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 That that last strain just took me to a different place. 171 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,520 No. But you know, dude, one of the 172 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,760 coolest things about you is, you know, I think it's awesome what 173 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,440 you built super cool and where you came from and, and knowing 174 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 your past and where you, you know, where, where it originated 175 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,240 from. Like all of this about you. 176 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,440 But I wanted to dig in more into what normally you don't get 177 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,840 asked on other podcasts, 'cause it's all about like your journey 178 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:36,559 and your, your success and everything like that with it. 179 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,559 But man, there's so much more to you. 180 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,120 Like a really cool part that I don't think people get to know. 181 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,840 At all. Now's the time because I'm high. 182 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,040 So yeah, dude. That's not it's a nice strain. 183 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Dude, I mean, that was a big hit I give you. 184 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,600 That well, I tried it. I'm like this thing's not 185 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:52,480 clearing it. I just got. 186 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,560 Do you go to? Another are you at a good? 187 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:56,000 I don't know, you're doping right now. 188 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,600 You alright? OK, I'll do that. 189 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:03,600 I know you just dude. Then daddy says you are my daddy 190 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,960 when it comes to cannabis. Like obviously. 191 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,080 Just you're good right now. I can see you right now, dude. 192 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,280 I see the glass going over the dog eye. 193 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:14,120 And to let you know, I like, dude, I just came from a whole 194 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,520 week of being off cannabis. I was having debilitating panic 195 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,480 attacks for no reason. Things are going great and just 196 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,000 my body dealing with shit and bringing it to the forefront as 197 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,360 you know, like you're big into mental health and that just it 198 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,680 was, it was harsh. So I was really nervous today 199 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:34,920 about trying any. But it's so far so. 200 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,280 Ah dude, I'm feeling great. This is the best I've felt in 201 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,960 all week. But you know, you grew up here 202 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,640 in Utah and you grew up in the culture, but you had things 203 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,520 happen to you when you were a kid that kind of steered you 204 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,080 towards where you are now. Where do you think that point 205 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,720 was? As far as leaving the religion 206 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,760 and mindset. No, I'm talking like when you 207 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,240 were a kid, 'cause I know that came, but when you were a kid 208 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,280 and all the things that you did during that time kind of shaped 209 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,560 you to where I think you are to do that. 210 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:12,680 I mean on the OK, what? What aspect of our life? 211 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,040 Business aspect? No, not even that I wanna. 212 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,440 Talk about your your life man, but like. 213 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,320 Man, I haven't thought about that. 214 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,520 I'm like, well, here's my answer about what drove me to be a 215 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,560 salesperson and entrepreneur, and here's my answer on that. 216 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,880 Yeah, no, just life. Like life, man. 217 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,840 Like you were a kid. Your parents went through a 218 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,680 divorce. How old were you when you were? 219 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,840 There maybe eight. OK. 220 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,560 Yeah. So yeah, I think I could start 221 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,400 thinking about that a little bit more. 222 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Who am I and why am I that way? I'm pretty and I, and it's funny 223 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,480 'cause now I'm actually trying to reverse that quality. 224 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Very goal oriented and driven and like I need to achieve, 225 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,200 achieve more, more, more, more, more, more, which on the outside 226 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,000 it's like, oh, that's, that's awesome because straight A 227 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,480 student and Allstate sports and you know, scholarships to 228 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,280 college and business success. But it on the flip side and why 229 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,040 I'm trying to reverse it and I'm like that it's just not 230 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,680 fulfilling 'cause you just want more and then never is enough. 231 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:09,920 So I'm trying to kind of reverse that. 232 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,920 I think I grew up with that. It was, you know, parents got 233 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,640 divorced, one of nine kids and I was number seven. 234 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,640 I think your parents kind of stopped caring after me before. 235 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,840 Paying as much attention. Well, and and single mom, she's 236 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,360 also working. She's like, I'm waking up in 237 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,120 elementary, waking up my little brothers, making us eggs, and 238 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,120 then going and walking to the neighbor's house to go get a 239 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,080 ride, you know? So because of that, it was just 240 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,880 like, if you want something done, just go get it. 241 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,600 You want money, go sell shaved dice, go sell snow shovels, door 242 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,000 to door, lawn aeration. Like I was kind of doing it all. 243 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,320 What is that? So. 244 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,360 These are amazing. Flint mints. 245 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,680 So these ones actually help with dry mouth. 246 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:57,200 I should have asked what it was. I mean, I should have let you 247 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,240 answer me if I put it in my. Mouth We reached out to him. 248 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,760 We're like, Hey, 'cause we, we. Too much trust. 249 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,080 Yeah, no, dude, no worries. And but that would be the most 250 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,600 expensive drug dispenser I've ever seen you just like yeah, we 251 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,480 bought like 15,000,000 of these just to try out. 252 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,200 But these are pretty cool. I saw them advertising for well, 253 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,040 Brandon says it's best, right? What their? 254 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,080 Their. Their Dick sucking. 255 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,440 Man is like every commercial, it's a girl with their. 256 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:26,080 Mowing or something like. It's going to be the sloppiest 257 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,960 blowjob of your life, right? So it's just like, you know, it 258 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,520 just they have these like. Don't love it till you try it. 259 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,160 But I was thinking like they they have on their website, 260 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,520 they're like, it's good for cannabis. 261 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,960 And I was like, ma'am, they should definitely be in front of 262 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,000 our audience because it's just they're super tasty and they 263 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,960 help with dry mouth instead of just sucking back. 264 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,480 Water and the one like the dose on them is usually 3 mints and 265 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,960 that's one. And they have different 266 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,440 strengths, but this one's 250. And a ton of flavors. 267 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,880 And, and they're really nice. But anyways, so it's not drugs, 268 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:05,960 but yeah, it's exactly like your, your whole, your whole 269 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,640 paradigm of being a kid is no longer being a kid. 270 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,240 Now it's sharing the responsibility of helping to 271 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,880 raise kids and help out with the house and everything like that 272 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,440 'cause you had to grow up really fast. 273 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,960 Yeah, so I, I the the pro to that was just like, you can do 274 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,640 whatever you want to do. You don't need anybody else. 275 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,520 And that's very, very helpful. And I do my best to teach my 276 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,080 kids that like, hey, Daddy, can I go pet the, the that dog? 277 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,200 I don't know. Go ask, you know, and it's like 278 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,600 teaching them because I, I think that that is very empowering. 279 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,880 But at the same time, the, the, the way I guess I'm trying to 280 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,680 parent versus how I was parented or the lack thereof was I felt 281 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:48,160 like I needed to do that to survive. 282 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Where with my kids, it's like, no, no, no, you, you are safe. 283 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,600 I have you. That's my job. 284 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,680 But you could, but you could go play and stuff. 285 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,320 But you can also go learn that if you want stuff, you can have 286 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,560 it. If you just freaking ask like we 287 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,200 last time we wanted on the plane. 288 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,160 She's like, can I go see the captain? 289 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,360 I'm like if you want, it's up to you. 290 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,880 You just gotta ask. She goes up there and then she's 291 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,120 gone for a few minutes, so I'm like, OK, I'm gonna go follow 292 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,800 her. I mean, I've seen she's in the 293 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,800 captain's chair with the captain's hat. 294 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,400 She's six years old. She did it by herself. 295 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,800 And then the, you know, Lila's right behind her, a four years 296 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,680 old, five years old, whatever. And then the same thing and she 297 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,480 goes and asks and so, so that it, it is very cool that I can 298 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,760 look back and how what I learned and it's like there's good and 299 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,560 bad to everything. Just perspective. 300 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:42,000 But now how can I enhance the good and mitigate the bad as I 301 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,640 parent and I love parenting. Yeah, you. 302 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,520 I love trying to figure it figure it out and. 303 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,960 Yeah, following you on social media, you know, it's not in, in 304 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,480 I I mean, I'll call a spade a spade. 305 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,000 You know, you usually see these like people that will put out 306 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,600 their life on on social and it's such a fabricated bullshit 307 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,240 story, but you feel that with yours, like it's genuine you you 308 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,520 really focus to have quality time with your kids and you make 309 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,760 sure that you have that. Oh, every day there's no, no 310 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,320 days that it's not a Daddy daughter day. 311 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,760 Even my son still says Daddy daughter dates 'cause he doesn't 312 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,720 get it. Last night went to Macy's and 313 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,040 I'm like, and it was just us. I said this is boys night. 314 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,280 OK, if you want this, this is boys night. 315 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,400 So we had our first boys night without him calling it Daddy 316 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,160 daughter night. No, but that is a big passion of 317 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,240 mine. And that sure does that come 318 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,880 from your childhood? Yeah, I mean, how do you like 319 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,040 thinking of legacy and what you leave behind? 320 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,520 It's it's your kids for me, you know, it's like that. 321 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,920 That's what I'm leaving behind. And you can go make a bunch of 322 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,880 money and people remember you till you till two days after 323 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,480 you're dead, right. And with that money you can make 324 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,240 an impact how, I don't know, buying people stuff, giving them 325 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,680 food home, but I don't even think that that is really 326 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,880 helping. I, I think it's a philosophy 327 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,360 that needs to be spread about and, and mindset and 328 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,520 perspective. That's why you have suicide 329 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,280 rates in Kenya, 1/3 of the United States, you know, 330 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,200 because. Crazy. 331 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,240 It's it's a different mindset and they're fine with the life 332 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,160 that they have where we're not fine. 333 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,800 And so I'm just like more money. If we gave Kenyans more money, 334 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,000 they're just gonna end up like us. 335 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,040 And it's actually not helping. So what's not quite to 336 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,120 happiness? I, I think it's again, 337 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,800 philosophy and how can I best spread my philosophy of whole? 338 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,040 I'm freaking. I got these three little 339 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,040 creatures. I could start with them. 340 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,840 So, yeah, I, I, I don't know, my belief on everything is that 341 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,840 we're not in control of anything. 342 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,160 So it, it, it, it will ultimately come down to like, I 343 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,800 think it's luck like 1000%. It's just, I got dealt the 344 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,520 genetics in this environment and I responded to it the way that I 345 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,680 responded it to. So I can't really pinpoint why I 346 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,240 value something more than something else. 347 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Well, I don't think anybody can. So that's, that's a little, 348 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,839 little preference, but everything that's happened, it 349 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:11,400 allows me to then look back with gratitude and like that happened 350 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,680 because it happened and nothing else could have happened like 351 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,160 from a physical atomic standpoint, if the universe was 352 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,720 in the same state the same. Reality would have happened, 353 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,040 yeah. So it's, it's, it's a mindset 354 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,720 that's really helped me and that that is something that I'd like 355 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,160 to, you know, like to talk about. 356 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:31,360 That's cool. Especially my kids. 357 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,400 Yeah, 'cause I mean, you're, you're very evident and that's 358 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,040 great because you given that, you know, you actually have an 359 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,520 impact when you are involved parenting to actually have an 360 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,040 impact on the future because you're helping to spread that 361 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:47,040 that mindset, that philosophy, because it's really easy to get 362 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,560 distracted right now. And as you, you worked hard your 363 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,720 whole life, you always strive for success. 364 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,760 You hit all that success. And something we talked about 365 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,240 here, you had a company in California, you sold that you 366 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,320 come into money. What does that do to? 367 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,920 You. That was the best thing for me 368 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,080 because I realized this is my realization. 369 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,040 I was 310 lbs. I was, I was, I was not fighting 370 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,240 with my wife. So to me we have a perfect 371 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,560 marriage right? To her we're roommates. 372 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,160 My dumb ass doesn't even freaking realize this. 373 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,720 I don't even have a good relationship with my wife and 374 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,440 I'm too dumb to even realize it. And I don't have a great 375 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,200 relationship really with anybody, especially myself and 376 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,000 my health because money money money money. 377 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:39,920 Once I achieve XYZ then then the rest of my life is solved and I 378 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,000 could then focus on my health and relationships. 379 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,000 So that was $1,000,000 wanted $1,000,000 net worth and I hit 380 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,360 that and it feels great. You know, check the bank 381 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:52,720 account, cool. And then a few days goes by, a 382 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,440 few weeks goes by and I reverse to the same habits and at the 383 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,720 same time I was watching Billions on Amazon. 384 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Prime Oh yeah dude, that's a good show. 385 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,160 So. I noticed I had $1,000,000 goal 386 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,000 before I was thirty hit it and within a a week or so I'm 387 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,880 already that's not enough like it's it doesn't feel. 388 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:12,960 Different. Where's your next goal? 389 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,000 Yeah. I I need more. 390 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,080 I need 5 million now. Yeah. 391 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,440 Cuz with 5 million out of 5% interested annuity, then I could 392 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,800 take it, you know, like, yeah, but the point is it's just the 393 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,560 next goal. And Bobby Axelrod was a 394 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,280 billionaire, and this is a fictional character, but still 395 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,200 hit me. Yeah. 396 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,000 And he hit a $10 billion net worth. 397 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,120 And you know what he did? He felt unfulfilled. 398 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,160 And he did an ayahuasca retreat. And I'm like, OK, So whether 399 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,000 it's one million, I think the pattern is I'm gonna do the same 400 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,200 thing till I get to Bobby Axelrod and he sells it. 401 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,800 And then she did. So my goal needs is, is, is, is 402 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,440 wrong. So coming and getting some money 403 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,480 allowed me to go through what I say is my midlife crisis. 404 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,040 But I was only 28 and it started me down a mental health journey. 405 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,080 I started seeing a therapist. I started trying to understand 406 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,560 thoughts and consciousness and purpose and meaning. 407 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,760 And then that led me to create my own mission statement for my 408 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,840 personal life, which and then was adopted by my company. 409 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,520 And then now it's like, I know what I'm doing, I know what I 410 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,680 want, and I know how I'm achieving in that. 411 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,800 And yeah, you can make tweaks there, here and there. 412 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,720 But I ran the 1st 28 years of my life of well I want more money 413 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,320 because with more money I could do things. 414 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,880 And that was just like super superficial. 415 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,160 So it's not that way then? No, So what what I narrowed it 416 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,240 down to is like, well, it's just about being happy, right? 417 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,200 And then thinking about it more, it's like, well, no, not 418 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,280 happiness. Because if you're not happy 419 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,840 every day, which is impossible to be happy every day, then 420 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,440 you're getting it down on yourself because now you're not 421 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,320 achieving your mission or goal and you know, OK, so but maybe 422 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,840 joy because you could, you know, a, a joyful life with up and 423 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,400 downs. OK, so joy, so can you smoke 424 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,760 weed and, you know, down by the van and and that's all you need. 425 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,360 Well, there's nothing wrong with that. 426 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,480 I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 427 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,040 Someone who chose to do that. But I'm like, but why would I do 428 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,560 that? Like that would just not give me 429 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,600 joy. You wouldn't feel fulfilled. 430 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,160 Because of that and that that's where the second word came in, 431 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,520 fulfillment. And and then it's like, OK, as 432 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,520 humans we need progress. That's where fulfillment comes 433 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,120 from. So doing nothing, even if you're 434 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:27,240 in a happy state of mind at the time, is not going to lead to 435 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,160 fulfilled life. So I narrowed it down to finding 436 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,880 joy and fulfillment. And then I threw in despite 437 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,520 life's dirtiness, 'cause my company's dirty dope. 438 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,880 But it's don't wait to sell your solar company to find joy and 439 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,120 fulfillment 'cause I was waiting. 440 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,320 I was waiting to I was waiting for something to happen. 441 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,120 You have to hit a goal to get that happiness. 442 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:48,440 Happiness will come once I achieve XYZ. 443 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,680 Yep. So it's. 444 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,320 It's have it now and stop delayed gratification. 445 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,160 Shit dude, doesn't matter if you're happy right now. 446 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,200 Just keep the commandments, follow my my church and then 447 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,000 you'll be rewarded in heaven. And you're like, I don't want to 448 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040 wait that long. I don't want to wait that long, 449 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,480 especially when there's no guarantee that if I pay you. 450 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,720 Well, it's living for tomorrow. It's living for a future of some 451 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,720 other time instead of like. Well, it's living for somebody 452 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,520 else and that's the problem. It's when we live for somebody 453 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,360 else and and not for you'll be good. 454 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,760 We'll give you CBD. Yeah, no worries dude, you'll be 455 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,760 good. But it, it definitely is a, you 456 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,240 know, when you mention that cause I've heard so many 457 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,120 different people where money absolutely destroyed their 458 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:39,440 lives. It just totally fucked them up. 459 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,120 But I, I love that perspective that you have 'cause you're 460 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:43,880 like, I gotta keep going. I gotta keep going. 461 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,440 And you get there and you're like, cool, check the bank 462 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,160 account. Cause I've heard of that where 463 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,480 you, you come into money, you know, you worked hard, you get 464 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,240 it. And then after you're like, So 465 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,960 what? Yeah, and, and here's the thing, 466 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,200 it's not money. It's it's just any goal. 467 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:06,520 How did you 2 feel if you thought that you had, if you 468 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,040 could imagine, hey, we're gonna start a cannabis podcast and 469 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,960 it's gonna be listened to all over the world like that thought 470 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,760 in your mind, how did you think you were going to feel? 471 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,160 Probably like that's it. That's all I ever need in life 472 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,160 is to have one of the top podcasts where you're here now 473 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,880 and does it feel that good. It just feels like any other 474 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,240 day. Like before, so it's you don't 475 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,840 have to get $1,000,000, just apply it to any goal you've ever 476 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,160 set in your life that you've achieved and say, how did I 477 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,320 think I was going to fill and how long did I think I was going 478 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,480 to fill that? Look back, see that it was empty 479 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,640 and you're like $1,000,000. It's the exact same thing, the 480 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,600 exact same thing. It's just a different goal being 481 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,600 achieved. But it's just that's how we are 482 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,680 as humans. You have to go back to 483 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,440 homeostasis to, to be in survival mode because I need to 484 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,600 go hunt, I need to go forge, I need to protect myself. 485 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,160 So it's your dopamine gets reset so freaking quickly. 486 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,480 Like it's just gone. It comes and it's gone. 487 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,920 So that way you can get the next dopamine hit, you know, from 488 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,720 smelling a flower and being near berries. 489 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,680 Like that's kind of more human evolution. 490 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,000 But that's, that's how I feel. That's why we're wired that way. 491 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,040 That's incredible. Was that insights that have just 492 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,680 come since doing therapy and this? 493 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,680 The podcast. OK. 494 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,720 Yeah, I mean, just think. You start plant medicine in that 495 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,280 journey. Or was plant medicine something 496 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,200 you had introduced prior to your sales of the solar company? 497 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,880 It started shortly after that I saw it. 498 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,160 So now I have my mission statement. 499 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,880 Now what do I do with this? Well, now I need to create my 500 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,120 what's? Your mission statement. 501 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,640 The finding joy and fulfillment despite life's sturdiness and 502 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,920 then I put in myself and others. Myself has to come first and 503 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,880 then and the other people, OK, now I need to do my company's 504 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,240 mission statement. And my business coach was like, 505 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,280 you idiot, that is your company's mission statement 506 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,640 'cause you are your company. So like, OK, cool, now how am I 507 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,400 going to do that? And OK, if it's joint 508 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,120 fulfillment, how do you give more joint fulfillment? 509 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,760 I kind of already explained it's philosophy in my opinion. 510 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,280 What's philosophy? That's mindset. 511 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,680 What's mindset? Mental health. 512 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,520 It's just people like, oh, mental health, what mindset? 513 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,880 Cool. But whatever, it's the same, 514 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,600 same damn thing. So mental health, that's what I 515 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,240 wanted to focus on. So how do I now incorporate that 516 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,760 into the business? And I was talking with a buddy 517 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,960 because you have to go to mushrooms because it's like, I 518 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,720 don't know how I want to attach this. 519 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:20,120 And he goes, you have to do mushrooms. 520 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,080 So it's like, I don't do drugs, you know? 521 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,240 Yeah, I'm not a druggie. And because I I just, I hadn't, 522 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,200 I'd never even heard what mushrooms works over in high. 523 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,480 School and everyone has the stigma. 524 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,800 Heroin, meth, mushrooms, LSD, OK boom. 525 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:38,080 One baggage, don't touch it. Slippery slope and and but yeah, 526 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,680 so it led me to that. And then getting into 527 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:46,400 psychedelics has furthered all of that because it's to analyze 528 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,240 consciousness and your thoughts and all. 529 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,640 You can do it in normal states, but it's hard. 530 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Like, so I can walk here or I can drive here. 531 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,360 Like I use a tool to to be more efficient. 532 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:02,920 And that's how I view psychedelics. 533 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,640 It's a it's a tool to be more efficient in achieving, you 534 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,160 know, depending on what your goals are. 535 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,600 But man, psychedelics are freaking awesome because this 536 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,840 is, yeah, this is where I explore all this thing, all of 537 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,520 these different topics that really fascinate me. 538 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,920 That's cool. That's cool. 539 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,360 And and cannabis came in and around about the same time. 540 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,720 Maybe a year before just 'cause I was in California so it was 541 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,160 legal and I didn't have any really stigma that. 542 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,680 I mean, other than growing up religiously though, I was like, 543 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,600 oh, you know, cannabis is is low key on the drug scale. 544 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,200 So it counts for about a year, OK. 545 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,440 And yeah, and that and that kind of helped graduate everything 546 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,800 else. Yeah, now I get to the point 547 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,440 that like even as I'm like, it doesn't matter. 548 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,000 I can get as high as what as my body will handle and I'm fine. 549 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,040 Like I'm comfortable enough with hell that I've gone through with 550 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,600 mushrooms that I'm just like their thoughts and that's what 551 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,360 they are and they'll go away. This experience will pass, yeah. 552 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:07,160 Yeah, so or, and now that does make me a lot more open to kind 553 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,360 of everything. That's cool because I'm like, I 554 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:14,880 know I can handle it and I also trust my ability in controlling 555 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,160 myself totally. Yeah. 556 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Out of all those like plant medicines that you've gone 557 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,000 through, have you found one that has been more beneficial or more 558 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,320 like impactful in your journey? Mushrooms. 559 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,480 Because mushrooms we're the 1st. I mean, taking a A6 gram 560 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,320 mushroom trip after several other trips that were all 561 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,440 terrible, Terrible meaning, not positive emotions, right? 562 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,440 Not terrible. And the fact that I'm telling 563 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,440 you this changed my life. I wanted to kill myself. 564 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,920 Like legitimately, I'm like, if there's a knife right here, I'm 565 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,080 gonna stab myself because I don't know who I am. 566 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,600 I don't know what I want. My life is worthless or that 567 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,880 like just felt deep despaired, meaningless, like I'd never felt 568 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,640 like that. So one that was amazing because 569 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,560 I get that that's real. But before, I mean, even before 570 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,880 I started seeing a therapist, like I'm talking three years 571 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,400 ago, I thought anxiety, depression and headaches where 572 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,960 in your mind? I even because I don't get 573 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,200 headaches, it's like, oh, that's just think happy thoughts. 574 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Like just that's for whatever reason, that was my thought 575 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,560 process. So it's definitely changed a 576 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,760 ton. And then being fascinated. 577 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,320 So now I could empathize with other people and then it also 578 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,040 fascinated that why that desire in there? 579 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,000 I have to go figure that out. Yeah. 580 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,880 I have to go do 8G now to show that I've conquered it, but 581 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,560 because they've been the most negative experiences of my life 582 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,840 I've learned the most from. Them interesting. 583 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Has almost every experience been negative then? 584 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,360 If I just do mushrooms, yes, if I'm like perfect on my, my 585 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,200 breath work before some red light, a little bit of 586 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,560 marijuana, then then you know, or, or if I'm putting it with a 587 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,080 little bit of ketamine, then yes. 588 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,840 If it's just mushrooms, it's like I, I'm, I'm going to just 589 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,400 feel like a lot of self hatred, almost despair for a while. 590 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,960 It's, it's more like what's the point of everything? 591 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,960 I, I like just go to the end of the life. 592 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,200 I'm. Like do you have a specific 593 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,560 playlist that you're listening to when you do that or is it 594 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800 just no music or? I I. 595 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,600 I tried a bunch of different. I've, yeah, I've, I've tried it 596 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,440 all. Interesting. 597 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,720 Yeah, that's just where my mind goes. 598 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,760 Yeah, I've had some really tough good, like really good 599 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,440 experiences, but in the moment, like really hard to go through. 600 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:53,600 I've had 1-6 grand trip and that was like I was trying to decide 601 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,680 if I was going to get back together with my ex-wife. 602 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,080 It was this big mess of back and forth. 603 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,520 And I'd gone down to see that like my kids and my ex-wife and 604 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,160 then came back and it was a big mess. 605 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,680 And my buddy's like, you need a a trip. 606 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,440 And I was like, yeah, I do. And he's like, do you trust me? 607 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,160 And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to make you a smoothie and I'll 608 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,920 tell you how much was in it after your trip. 609 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680 And I'm like, cool, I'm OK with that. 610 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,600 And the next day he was like, yeah, it was like 6 point 611 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,320 something. I was like. 612 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,840 All right. Yeah, well, it was. 613 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,480 I was needed. So it was definitely an 614 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,120 experience. But like in that time I saw, so 615 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,680 I have the old like sparkly ceiling and at night when it's 616 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,120 lit up, it's like it looks like, it looks like galaxies. 617 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,560 Yeah, I know, right. And so it looks like I saw like 618 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,240 a big old lion in the galaxies in it and stuff and just really 619 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,360 interesting. But most psilocybin experiences 620 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,920 I feel like aren't crazy visual. I've never gone too high on it. 621 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,280 I mean, the most I've done is 3 and I'm just incredibly happy. 622 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,280 I mean, I did realize I hated myself. 623 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,480 And and a mushroom trip lasts four to six hours. 624 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,680 I don't know. And and it's 45 minutes kind of 625 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,560 start feeling it. I start feeling like shit from a 626 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,360 minute 45 to for an hour and 15 and then it's blissful and I get 627 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,040 a look back at it and and enjoy it. 628 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,680 So I I should preface, it's not six hours of health. 629 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,840 It's 30 minutes to an hour and a half, but it seems like forever 630 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,000 and then I come out of it and then I'm open, I'm talkative, my 631 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,120 vulnerability's down. I have great comfort and and and 632 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,640 it's been it's also amazing if doing it to connect with other 633 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,520 people, especially like I've I've done it with brothers and 634 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,960 sister or sister-in-law and we. Did we've done it, Yeah. 635 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,080 We've done it, and it's like you just connect with people that 636 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,440 you've known your entire life on a completely different level 637 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,440 because of that vulnerability and that ego, the default mode 638 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,400 network of the brain is gone. Yeah. 639 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,640 And it's so interesting because you can connect with like the 640 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,320 just the genuine human inside, but it's so we're so 641 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,320 disconnected from that all the time. 642 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Yeah, but I mean it, it also, I mean it 'cause that kind of ties 643 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,800 into your professional, personal life, right? 644 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,720 I mean, I could only imagine that there's this misconception 645 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,680 that people have of you because you have a business, because 646 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,120 you've had success, all these things. 647 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,400 I mean, the, I feel like, you know, when you use like plant 648 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,240 medicine, like I've, I've said this to so many people and 649 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,320 everybody's like, Oh yeah, no matter where you are, if you 650 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,960 smell that sweet, sweet smell, we all of a sudden you could 651 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,480 make a friend right away going, hey, which, what is that? 652 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,960 Like, oh, that smells dank. They're like. 653 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,040 And they always go here you go, right? 654 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,880 Like no. 4:20 And we were, I was hobbling back to the car and 655 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,920 Jesse's carrying the box and these two people are sitting 656 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,880 down by the Bush lighting a pipe. 657 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,760 And I was like, what you got over there, like. 658 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,760 He just goes here. You go and I was like, I was 659 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,400 just in a weird spot, 'cause my head and my like leg and 660 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,480 everything and I'm like, yeah, fuck it, I'll take a hit. 661 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,760 So I take a hit and I'm like keep going. 662 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,640 But it's just like, it was great. 663 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,880 Just instant community but like. Yeah, look, anywhere, anywhere. 664 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520 You, you, you instantly like I had this crazy story. 665 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,480 That's, that's really cool. I've never even thought about 666 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,760 that, but it is so true. Totally it. 667 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,120 What dude, the craziest story? I met this guy from Chicago and 668 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,120 he, he's not from Chicago, he's from California. 669 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,280 He gets placed in Chicago. He's a photographer for cannabis 670 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,160 businesses. And so he takes Google Maps to 671 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,160 walk to his apartment 'cause he doesn't know where he's at, But 672 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,880 he says, I'm gonna get a, a big walk. 673 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,560 I'm gonna do this walk through this neighborhood. 674 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,560 It takes him through one of the worst, most violent cities, 675 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,440 little communities in the city of Chicago. 676 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,560 And it's nothing but black guys. This guy is a white dude from 677 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,600 California. And they they get him like some 678 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,680 guy stopped and they're like, what the hell are you doing 679 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,520 here? He's all, I'm just walking 680 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,160 through like you rocked in the whole fucking neighborhood. 681 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,960 He pulls out his hat and pulls out a joint. 682 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,199 He goes an offering and they're all they smoked the joint and 683 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,040 then they walked him through the neighborhood and then he met 684 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,760 some cops. Like they have, it's like some 685 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Demolition man shit. You ever seen that movie you 686 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,480 had? You're not a movie guy. 687 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,120 You haven't seen Demolition. You got to see that. 688 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,400 But you remember that like, there's like the cities, like 689 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,600 parts of the city are blocked. Up by the cops. 690 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,760 And it's to keep people from coming into the other city and 691 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,520 keep you from going in. And they were like, are you OK? 692 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,199 And you're like, yeah, I just ran into these guys and we just 693 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,679 hit. It off or they're like fucky 694 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,280 shit. That's what I I was knocking 695 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,320 doors in Chicago and scared for my life all the time. 696 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,560 Like literally saw somebody get robbed right right right as I'm 697 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,880 knocking, door behind me and the car screeching off and 698 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,040 everything. If I would have just rolled 699 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,800 around with some joints. Right. 700 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,440 Everyone's so much happier. They're like, oh, sure, so. 701 00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:01,120 The one not the one there's 1000 beautiful things of the culture 702 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,680 that I was raising one of the the ones that I I've like, man, 703 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,760 they such a good job in building a culture of the Mormon religion 704 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,120 that I could go to any country, literally any country. 705 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,720 I feel like I could look up thelds.org, find a church house, 706 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,120 find the Bishop, call them. I need a place to stay tonight 707 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,080 and I got a place to stay anywhere in the world. 708 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,440 True. And I'm like, that community is 709 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,680 so cool and I don't have anything even close. 710 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,200 Outside of that, Outside of that. 711 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,240 And then I'm like, oh, that, you know, there are other things. 712 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,560 I'm just, I thought it had to be church and it doesn't have to be 713 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,000 church, No. So anyways, that was. 714 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,560 That's kind of crazy, right? Because cannabis is the great 715 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,280 uniter. I mean, I always tell people 716 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,960 like, and Brandon knows, I joke around and I say I convert more 717 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,600 people to cannabis than to Christ and they go, how do you 718 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,960 do that? And I go, well, if you want to 719 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,240 be more like him, smoke this and you'll get that experience. 720 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:55,320 Cause truly, like there's nobody we've ever met like we did the 721 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,000 420 over at Dragonfly. They invited us. 722 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,640 They're like, hey, just come up, set up a table. 723 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000 We'll let you have it. And you guys can just talk with 724 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,440 people. And it was, it was cool in the 725 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,160 sense it wasn't, it wasn't what they thought it was going to be. 726 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,600 Definitely not. But it was cool because 727 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,960 everybody there was just close. Like nobody's a Dick when they 728 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600 show up with cannabis. They're like, if dudes are like, 729 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,040 you're not smoking cannabis dude, you're fucking doing 730 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,720 cocaine and sleeping pills. Like what the fuck? 731 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:24,840 Is wrong with. What you do? 732 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,960 Cocaine. Sleeping pills. 733 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,320 You're just like fucking dude, it just whatever. 734 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,360 But anybody using cannabis immediately, like there is no 735 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:41,320 like there's no division as far as like whatever stayed in life, 736 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,240 'cause you were. Just like who cares? 737 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,720 Yeah, it doesn't even matter. Yeah. 738 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,360 And that's what's so cool. Like that's, that's how our 739 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,600 friendship built, right? And it's only been off of that. 740 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,000 Like it's not, it's not like what's in it for me. 741 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,440 But do you feel like sometimes? That that's what the 742 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,120 relationship is. With some people that you meet. 743 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,240 Oh yeah, and I don't care. No, but I mean but but it but it 744 00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:06,760 started happening. What was it like? 745 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,960 It's way different. Well, yeah, I started joining 746 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,560 masterminds and crap and then I'm like, I'm going in there 747 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:19,880 because I don't know anything and I want to go learn stuff and 748 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,640 but I'm like, oh, but I do actually have a big business. 749 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,200 You know, I have 100 plus employees and we're do decent 750 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,360 and I walk in and I'm and I and it felt like I was the oh go 751 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,280 sell him. Oh yeah. 752 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,720 Marketing company, this and that and I was just always being 753 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,200 pitched everything and I hated that because I hate 754 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,560 disappointing people and I don't like telling people no. 755 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,040 So I'm like, yeah, we'll look into it, but I'm like. 756 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,920 So you're a pleaser. Yes, yes, yes. 757 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,160 Because I was on the other end. Like all, I wanted people to 758 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,760 just hear me out. That was my plea. 759 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,560 Just hear me out and I promise you, you'll buy solar because 760 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,720 it's so such a no brainer in California. 761 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,520 You save money. Just hear me out. 762 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,200 So like, I felt I owed that to everybody. 763 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,000 To just hear out. Just hear me out. 764 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,240 Enough doors to go like, hey, I just want you to hear my pitch 765 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:13,720 and you're like, so. Do you still do that to this 766 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:14,600 day? No, no, no. 767 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,840 So you're. Very, very poor. 768 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,080 You're just like, hey, we're good. 769 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,640 I'm not interested and if it does I'll I'll change. 770 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:27,360 I mean, I'll let you know, but it has nothing if, if, if I'm 771 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,360 doing that because when I knocked doors and people told me 772 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,080 no and I took that personally. So now if you ask me to buy 773 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,320 something and I tell you no or I can't tell you no, 'cause you're 774 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,800 gonna take that personally either way, that's that. 775 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,960 That's all me. That's me just reflecting, man. 776 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,240 That's. Super healthy, that's all. 777 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,920 Just reflect. So now it's like, OK, if you 778 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,720 take that personal, and if you don't, either way, it doesn't 779 00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:52,880 matter to me. That's on you. 780 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,600 Yeah, that's it. You can tell them what you want 781 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,720 and then they can take it how they want like it's. 782 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:00,280 That's a good evolution man 'cause that's that's I think 783 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,600 that's kind of hard either way, 'cause you could live with that 784 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,600 going oh man, I should have talked to him, but I know it 785 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,840 just. And, and, and that's the the 786 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,320 other sales pitch. And I use the same thing. 787 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,360 It's like, oh, well, you don't know how much money you could be 788 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,800 saving. I'm like, and this is my 789 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,000 response every time. And it literally works every 790 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,320 time. And it's 100% true. 791 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,240 And I said, well, listen, I, I get 20 people trying to change, 792 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,640 you know, pitching me on a different software marketing 793 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,280 company a week. So you, you every week I'm 794 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,560 passing up on at least 20 opportunities to save money. 795 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,840 Just so you know, you're not the only one. 796 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,840 And they don't say anything 'cause it's like what? 797 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,600 Can they say? Wait, wait. 798 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,800 But yeah, yeah, no, you, no, you need to listen to everybody. 799 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,760 It's like you listen to everybody. 800 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,640 You don't get anything done. You have no time. 801 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,040 That is my response. And that is true. 802 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,800 It's just like it has nothing to do with you. 803 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,040 And I know I could be making your own decision. 804 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,200 And I made twenty other wrong decisions. 805 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:49,760 This. Week, you don't have time to 806 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,760 make every right decision. So that's just what you do. 807 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,440 You make a shit ton of wrong decisions and a few good ones 808 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,400 and it goes good. Well, and that's the thing too, 809 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,160 man. Like, even like, I don't know if 810 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,600 I told you that story. Brandon's heard the story 811 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,000 before, but when I was at a networking group, this guy came 812 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,600 up to me and he's got podium on his hat, podium on his shirt, 813 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,160 going down his fucking pant leg. And I asked him, I'm like, do 814 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,360 you work for work front? And he goes, no, I work for 815 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,080 podium. And I'm like, oh cool. 816 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,080 And then he goes on like he's so excited to pitch me what he did, 817 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,120 'cause that's all they're taught. 818 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,760 It's just like tell everybody. And he is just like, like almost 819 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,200 like he's like, you know, fucking jump out of his chair. 820 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,000 He's gotta tell me, 'cause all I'm like, hey man, tell me what 821 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,760 you do when you're not being businessman. 822 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,640 Like let's little learn about you. 823 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,440 So there's another one that that does that. 824 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,920 So like the kind of the ones that cost, I don't know, between 825 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,800 300 and 800 bucks a month, it's kind of OK, I'm going to buy a 826 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,480 pass as a company, but I'm not going to go anymore. 827 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,000 So I'm going to send somebody else there. 828 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,560 So we could see if, you know, keep your ear out if any 829 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,680 companies need catering. And then so it's, it's just some 830 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,840 employee, I mean, a great employee, right? 831 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,800 Not downplaying them all, but it's like it's an employee, 832 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,480 right? It's it's not the owners, it's 833 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,200 not the decision maker. And so they're trying to go find 834 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,600 other owners that also sent non decision makers. 835 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,840 And I was the only idiot with. I was the only. 836 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,920 Owner that was there. Talking to all the decision. 837 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,360 And then I joined a different one and it was very different. 838 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,840 It was a lot more expensive. And it is none of that. 839 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,840 It is no a dirty transaction. It's here's your trips. 840 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,480 Pick two trips of the year we go and it's just really, really 841 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,240 nice trips and breakfast, lunch and dinner. 842 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,800 And the only thing that they, the only thing that they 843 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,080 facilitate is making sure that every day you sit with you sit 844 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,400 with new people and you go with your spouse too. 845 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,120 So like we went to Tahoe and then I, I did another fishing 846 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,080 trip for a week in Belize and it's like the. 847 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,720 But that's how you connect with the people. 848 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,920 You connect with the people. Way differently. 849 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,880 And then it and then it's guaranteed, you know, business 850 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,720 owners doing 10 million plus or whatever it was. 851 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,440 Yeah. And it was great, but it was too 852 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,440 expensive. And I'm like, yeah, I'll come 853 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,840 back to this guys. But it was, it was, it was a 854 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,840 good experience. Well, and it it, but it teaches 855 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,080 you, you know, what's the importance? 856 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,320 Is it is it a relationship or is it this monetary gain? 857 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,400 And that's the problem, right? Like even that guy, I was 858 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,040 telling you, he went so hard into pitching me that and I 859 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,160 said, Hey, can you do me a favor and take a step back? 860 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,600 I can feel your Dick on my leg. And he goes, what? 861 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,160 And I'm like, yeah, dude, he goes, that's pretty messed up. 862 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,480 And I'm like, so is what you just did. 863 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,840 You take a step back and be a cool guy and just say, hey, 864 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,400 here's me as a person. I know you need to sell 865 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,160 something, but the speed to a close is going to be the 866 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,640 connection I make. And if they're invested into me, 867 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,560 then something maybe can happen. But don't lead with that because 868 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,000 it's like putting your Dick on their leg. 869 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,440 Like, how offensive would that be? 870 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,680 Yeah, unless. Oh, oh, here's the deal. 871 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,320 I there's two, I could see both ends 'cause I've, I, I do both 872 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,920 ends. Right now it's all about the 873 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,680 relationship. But if you're knocking a door 874 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,760 and you make $400.00 a pest control cell, I'm gonna knock on 875 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,560 your door. I'm not. 876 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,440 I don't. I'm not gonna build a 877 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,400 relationship with you. Yeah, and just think about the 878 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,840 the the place you. Tell me to fuck off. 879 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,840 I have to accept that because I know that I'm making you 880 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,040 uncomfortable. So like for him to say that's 881 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,560 messed up. I no, no, it's not messed up 882 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,480 because you didn't like that and you expressed it and that's it. 883 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,040 You know, there's nothing messed up about that at all. 884 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,840 If he's going to be pitchy because he wants to sell product 885 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,320 because that's what his mind is telling him to do or whatever 886 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,760 reason, like that's fine, just accept the consequences. 887 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,200 But for actual real growth and connection and. 888 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,280 That's not how to do it. That's not how to do it. 889 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,200 But but that you. Can do it if it's different 890 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,600 environments. Yeah, I. 891 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,480 Mean if you're out there, it's all about your numbers and you 892 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,800 you know that it's not like fulfillment and it's because. 893 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,440 You're knocking doors and stuff like it's a. 894 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,800 People shadowed me and Solar's alone. 895 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,840 It's like you sit down at their kitchen table and it's a longer 896 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,000 presentation. And every time they're like, you 897 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,640 don't ask them one thing about them. 898 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,760 And I said because I don't, I generally don't care. 899 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,240 Like I'm here to sell them, they're here to buy and I would 900 00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:00,320 get deals done really quick, but it because it was straight to 901 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,920 the point. Here's the pros, here's the the 902 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,480 cons you choose. I gave them all the information 903 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,600 I like literally gave them our bad reviews and stuff. 904 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,920 And it's, but that's what I focused on was the was the 905 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,520 facts. And I like that because that's 906 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,920 how I want to be sold and that's how I sold people And it worked 907 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,480 really well for me. And that's if I went back to 908 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,840 solar, that's probably what I would do. 909 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,680 But I do know like if I want to build the relationship with a, 910 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,920 with an investor or just a relationship just for the sake 911 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,480 of being a relationship, which is really the goal, not for some 912 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,080 hopeful future goal. I mean just very different. 913 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you can't smoke hope, 914 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,200 right? It's a dangerous. 915 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,640 Drug because I I smoke an. Opium. 916 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,120 The in like the cells world, like, you know, ask them about 917 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,360 their daughter and this and that. 918 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,120 And I'm like, if you, if you were pitching me anything from a 919 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,840 from a, a couch at RC Willey to solar or vacuum. 920 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,400 I, I don't care about your kids. I'm never gonna see you again. 921 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,440 And me telling you about my kids also doesn't matter. 922 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,040 Like just go to the next house and make some more money and let 923 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,560 me be with my. Family. 924 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,920 It's irrelevant to the conversation of what it says. 925 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,040 I just don't want to why fake it? 926 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,200 And so I think a lot of people fake it. 927 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,120 I don't just, I don't fake it. I just, I don't care and I don't 928 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,840 ask. Yeah, because that's not the 929 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,680 purpose, right? That's not me. 930 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,160 It's I just don't feel genuine. Like if I ask the question how 931 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,280 how many kids do you have? That's to fill up empty. 932 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,480 Offered space. And I'm just like, I would 933 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,880 rather fill that up with signing the contract. 934 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,200 Yeah, yeah, I'll feel more fulfilled just to sign here. 935 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,920 And if they, I mean, if they're getting it, you're not thinking 936 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,880 about after the fact going, gosh, you know, morally I don't 937 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,440 know how I feel about it. I mean, I just sit still that 938 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,880 family and now they're, you know, financially responsible. 939 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,200 Like you don't fucking care. It's just like, OK, good. 940 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,120 I did what I was set out to do and I accomplished. 941 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,520 That except for. After that except. 942 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,840 For I would feel very bad if I screwed somebody over. 943 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,600 No, but I'm saying like, well, of course. 944 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,600 They're gonna make that pay, yeah. 945 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,880 No, but I mean you're not thinking about not not in that 946 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,520 sense that they're gonna have something bad like how they feel 947 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,360 after is their responsibility from what I understand from what 948 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,440 you've been talking about. Yes. 949 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,080 And and that extends way more applicable now because it's way 950 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,400 harder when you sell franchises and people open up a store and 951 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,120 they're in a few 100 grand and it's not going how we plan, it's 952 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,120 not going how they planned. And there's like, I can't feel 953 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,280 responsible for that 200 times. But you can feel for them though 954 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,080 going fuck that sucks. Oh, yes, I you could empathize, 955 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,320 but rather than like me putting it on myself and, and like, oh, 956 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,480 that was my responsibility. And it's like it, it was to as 957 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,600 much as it was, but at the end of it, like they're adults. 958 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,560 They made a decision based on the information that was 1000% 959 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,680 accurate and it just didn't work out. 960 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,160 And I'm like, well, but that's just life that happens actually 961 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,560 every day. We make the best decision based 962 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,560 on the most accurate information, and it turns out to 963 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,520 not. Sometimes it goes great, 964 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,200 sometimes it doesn't. It like if, if it's my decision, 965 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,560 it's on me. If it's your decision, it's on 966 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,600 you and I and we have to separate it like that. 967 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,720 Yeah, yeah. You really do that. 968 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:11,480 Like it's, it's tough sometimes. One of the I have a buddy who 969 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,680 still holds himself kind of accountable because of an 970 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,760 investment that I made. And I'm like, I don't blame you 971 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,240 for this. This was my decision. 972 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:22,360 I was the one who like I hold myself accountable for it. 973 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,440 I should have done better due diligence and checked these 974 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,400 things like I don't blame you for this. 975 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,200 Yeah, definitely a growth experience. 976 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,440 And it's funny, 'cause like that's, that's how I am too, 977 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:37,000 because I, I truly believe that, you know, things are just 978 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,720 happening. We're making choices, but we 979 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,320 couldn't have chosen otherwise because it's just cause and 980 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,800 effect, domino effect. So it's like anything that ever 981 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,680 has happened or will happen, like there's no, there was no 982 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,360 other outcome. So why would I be mad at 983 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,240 somebody that did what they had to do? 984 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,760 You think you react the best way possibly that you can in that 985 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,360 moment with everything in life leading up to that. 986 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,360 And there's no other way that you can show up in that moment 987 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,640 like it's the reality has already unfolded to this moment. 988 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,960 And that's what creates from this moment on. 989 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,960 So you can always look inward and try and from then on 990 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,920 perfect. But there's nothing that you 991 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,160 will ever do or change or like, you know? 992 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,840 Yes, I mean, we're going through life and and people here then 993 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,320 like, well, well, well, then you're not going to do anything. 994 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,000 It's like, why wouldn't you do anything? 995 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,240 Yeah, you're. Like, well, I'm just never going 996 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:26,920 to get off the couch. OK, well apparently that was 997 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,760 just what you were never going to do. 998 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,400 Like, well, they won't because it's like, well, why aren't you 999 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,640 going to get off the couch today? 1000 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,640 Why do you not just sit on the couch all day every day? 1001 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,280 Well, because I want to work. Well, why do you want to work? 1002 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,560 Because I need money. Why do you need money? 1003 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,760 Because I need a house. Why do you need a house? 1004 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,800 Because I want to. And then it finally gets to an 1005 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,360 emotion and I I want to feel joy and fulfillment. 1006 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:47,160 OK, so you don't sit on the couch because you want fulfill 1007 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,080 joint fulfillment. If you found out that you were 1008 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,720 no longer conscious in control, still be the same thing. 1009 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:52,960 You still don't wanna feel like shit. 1010 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,040 Yeah, so I don't know. I, I think that's kind of a very 1011 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,760 weird thought to be like, oh, if if we're really not in control, 1012 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,880 nobody's gonna do anything. And it's like, no, it's the 1013 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,800 exact same. You would do what makes you feel 1014 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,560 good, which is what you're doing now. 1015 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,960 But that mindset does allow you to go back and see the past, 1016 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,480 yourself and others, all actions with an infinite amount of 1017 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,000 sympathy, empathy, grace and forgiveness. 1018 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,600 If you, if you can conceptualize that. 1019 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,880 And then so you said the investment, like if I made an 1020 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,480 investment, that's how I view people. 1021 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,400 So it's like, I know you did, just did what you did and to the 1022 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,560 best of your ability and that's it. 1023 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,480 And I I could forgive that, but for some reason, but I'm still 1024 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,040 like, Oh no, no, I need to, if I lose an investment, I have to go 1025 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,440 build another business to then go. 1026 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,000 Read it out of that, yeah. So I could give others grace, 1027 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,200 but I won't give it to myself in that same scenario. 1028 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,560 It's so hard. We are like, we say this all the 1029 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,520 time or like on the show is we're our harshest critics. 1030 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,440 Like we look at ourselves and we judge ourselves way differently 1031 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,440 than we would judge our kids or, you know, or our friends or like 1032 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,880 our spouse or partner, whoever it is that we truly love and 1033 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,280 care about. And yet we look at ourselves and 1034 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,200 we're like way fucking harsh on ourselves. 1035 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,080 It's kind of ridiculous. But we don't ever treat 1036 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,560 ourselves with the same compassion and understanding 1037 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,240 often that we treat every other day like regular everyday 1038 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,680 people. Well, and you know, you're 1039 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,960 talking about forgiveness. You know, it's, it's not as 1040 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,440 harsh having that humility to be able to see past that where 1041 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,280 you're like, OK, cool. Well, I'm not the most important 1042 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,600 person because I can imagine, you know, did did you ever get 1043 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,720 to that point? You're like, well, yeah, fuck 1044 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,680 these poor people. Like, you know, what's up with 1045 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,280 these guys? Like, do you ever feel like 1046 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,160 that? All the way up until I started 1047 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000 in mushrooms 2, two or three years ago. 1048 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,560 Like, because it was, well, yeah, you're in shitty 1049 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,840 circumstances. We're all in shitty 1050 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,880 circumstances. Like just figure. 1051 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,120 One way or another, yeah. Pull yourself up by your 1052 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,640 bootstraps. That was my firm, firm belief. 1053 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,200 I didn't, but I but I also grew up in Happy Valley in Orem, UT 1054 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,360 that I can that I was that we were poor, but we had a nice 1055 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,720 house and I mean, yeah, a nice house and a nice neighborhood. 1056 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,360 And we lived off of food stamps and like the Bishop's storehouse 1057 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,160 that time, you know, like, because of the community and 1058 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,160 like, I never really needed anything, you know, because of 1059 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,480 the community. So I'm like, well, that was 1060 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,160 simple, you know, like I was poor, but I still did. 1061 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,040 It's like, yeah, looking back, like I wasn't poor. 1062 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,000 I had food every single freaking day and I was fat and I was 1063 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,560 like, I wasn't poor. Anybody would give me anything 1064 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,960 that I needed because the community was so strong. 1065 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,520 And then you go to Chicago or Baltimore, knock doors in 1066 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,320 Baltimore, and you're just like poverty. 1067 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,680 This is different. Where you go to third world 1068 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,920 countries and you see. And then it's more like. 1069 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,200 A third world country? Oh shit, not Baltimore. 1070 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,480 Yeah, definitely do. I mean, you know, I've been all 1071 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,120 over this planet too. I've been to third world 1072 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,920 countries and I'll tell you like it is. 1073 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,720 It's stark difference. You're like, oh, that's yeah, 1074 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,680 that's different. And they're still smiling. 1075 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,040 Yeah, they're happy and you're like. 1076 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,640 Well, so, so you trace back success and so again, this is 1077 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,600 how I got out of the mindset. You should be doing better 1078 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,600 because you should have. This is Gelato now because there 1079 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,720 was no more ground up of the Blue City diesel. 1080 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,560 OK, so just a little. Bit further. 1081 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,160 Down, just so you know. Yeah. 1082 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,480 Oh, I'm good. It's a different strain. 1083 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,640 All right, whatever I was saying, it was Baltimore. 1084 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,120 Yeah, terrible interruption. Oh, knocking doors, knocking 1085 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,320 doors, you don't have money. If anybody asked, like, oh, I 1086 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,880 want money to go do that. Why don't you just learn how to 1087 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,800 sell and go knock doors? I did it. 1088 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,520 I did it like I was just an asshole, like an asshole 1089 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,720 mentality to be like, well, if I did it, anybody can do it. 1090 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,360 And and there's a lot of power to that. 1091 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,280 And I still believe in that, in the fact that like there's 1092 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,560 nothing that somebody else is doing. 1093 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,800 I mean, almost nothing that somebody else is doing that I 1094 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,960 can't learn and figure out like that is true. 1095 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,640 That's that's that's. Time, effort, education. 1096 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,280 But you could do it. Yes, but the, the, the, what I 1097 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,640 didn't grasp is like, why do I want to go knock doors? 1098 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,840 Because I like making money. Why do I, why am I driven by 1099 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,360 money? Because I have an insecurity 1100 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,880 about safety in my life and I need to build up. 1101 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,120 Why do I have that? Because of how I was brought up. 1102 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,800 Why was I brought up like that? I was in no control over, but 1103 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,360 it's like you you go back to like, well, it's it's just more 1104 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,480 willpower. Like just do more willpower and 1105 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,000 you'll do be a better person, You know, like just try harder. 1106 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,720 And it's like, OK, but where does willpower come from? 1107 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,880 Why does one person have it and one person does it? 1108 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,280 What? Is that underlying Dr. that 1109 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,320 you're like that person just seems to have it all? 1110 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,960 And there is no place like there. 1111 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,800 There is no place. It's willpower. 1112 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,920 Is is just another thought. And if you analyze thoughts in 1113 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,040 this very moment or just this question, do you know what 1114 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,520 you're going to think before the thought arises? 1115 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,760 Of course not. OK. 1116 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,040 And and to add, do you know what you're going to think before you 1117 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,800 consciously know, you know? Well, that depends on if you 1118 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:20,520 look at the thought as being coming from you or as you being 1119 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:25,720 the observer of the thought and and like if it even originates 1120 00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:28,280 from you. Well, what I was getting at 1121 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,720 though is that question is obvious. 1122 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,920 I can't know something before consciously. 1123 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,160 I can't consciously know something before it consciously 1124 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,400 arises. OK, so we've established that we 1125 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,200 cannot control our thoughts 'cause if I don't know what it's 1126 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:44,400 what's gonna happen before it comes, then that's all the 1127 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,320 evidence we ever need that thoughts just appear. 1128 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,400 OK, well, the thought just appears, but then I can choose 1129 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,880 to dwell on it. Well, tell me how you're gonna 1130 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,920 choose to dwell on something without having the thought to 1131 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,240 choose to dwell on it. Like so now you're. 1132 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:01,320 Getting into the original direction, but you can choose a 1133 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,840 new thought pattern or like think of hey, well now I'm 1134 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,000 going. To this is what I'm getting at. 1135 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,560 You can't. So that was just going to 1136 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:09,680 happen. That's just another thought 1137 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,240 though. So it's just, it's the 1138 00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:14,680 circumstance of what's happening. 1139 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,960 So you're just reacting to what's happening. 1140 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,840 Yeah. And I'm so I'm I'm making 1141 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,200 choices like I'm not an. But you can make a choice. 1142 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,920 Based off of that, yeah, I just couldn't have chosen otherwise. 1143 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,400 OK. So, so it's like, yes, I'm 1144 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,000 making choices. I'm a I'm a independent being, 1145 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,920 not being acted on by there's. No other choice that you could 1146 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,800 have made. Yeah, He he. 1147 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,600 Just handed me the lighter. I picked it up without even 1148 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,040 thinking. Like I don't know, I could have 1149 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,000 not Like why did I pick it up with my right hand instead of my 1150 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,160 left? I have no idea. 1151 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,440 No idea. But just reactions just. 1152 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:46,680 Reactions. What happens? 1153 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,000 So going back to the thoughts, OK, I have a thought. 1154 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,240 I I want it. I'm I want a doughnut. 1155 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,440 And then the next thought is, OK, have the doughnut. 1156 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,040 Oh well, you chose to. No, that was just a thought 1157 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,760 after a thought neither. And we already established you 1158 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,720 don't control thoughts. Second scenario. 1159 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,840 Well, I want a doughnut. Second thought comes up and 1160 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,440 it's. But you're on a diet, so I don't 1161 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,560 eat the doughnut. Well, yeah, because I chose not 1162 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,640 to eat the doughnut. Yeah, well, yeah, you chose, but 1163 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,000 it was just another thought that you didn't control. 1164 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,560 So good job that your brain told you not to eat the doughnut. 1165 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,600 And you're a shitty person morally because your brain told 1166 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,480 you to eat the doughnut. And that's how we live a society 1167 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,600 not like we morally shame people for not being as good as other 1168 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,800 people when if anybody just sits still asks themselves that 1169 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,840 question, can we consciously know what we're thinking before 1170 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,840 we consciously the before that thought consciously arises. 1171 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,120 And of course the answer is no. And that there's there's no like 1172 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,200 Gray area. It's just a line in the sand. 1173 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,200 You don't control your thoughts, therefore you don't control your 1174 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,960 actions. So just look at the world of 1175 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,960 freaking gratitude that there's an infinitely small chance that 1176 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,200 we had to live and we're here. And then then it's like, OK. 1177 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,240 Cool, just be grateful. Cool this is. 1178 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,040 Just grateful we're freaking smoking weed right now. 1179 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,480 Like I didn't, I didn't choose any of this. 1180 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,200 I just got dealt a good hand. So I'm just going to be grateful 1181 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,920 that like this is my life right now. 1182 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,360 And rather than like walk around with pride and be like, I'm 1183 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,840 better than you because I like money more And I was driven more 1184 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,480 because because I'm, I'm, I'm like I'm literally driven. 1185 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,440 I'm literally driven because of an an insecurity for safety 1186 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,840 because I thought I wasn't going to have food some nights and 1187 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,040 like and then I over ate. But it's like that's what led to 1188 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,440 my success, and people are jealous of that because that's 1189 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,280 what society. That's fucking me like. 1190 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,640 No one sees all the underlying roots and causes and everything. 1191 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,040 And jealous of my insecurities that keep me up at night and 1192 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,480 cause me to smoke weed. Because everyone just sees 1193 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,840 everyone else's happiness or success or what they perceive is 1194 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,560 what's going on in that person's life. 1195 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,080 And we miss. There's so much of that 1196 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,920 disconnect and you so you don't even see what's going on in that 1197 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,720 person's life. And it's like they just see, Oh 1198 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,800 well, look at Bennett Maxwell, he's sold or got $1,000,000 and 1199 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,360 now he's got all this stuff. And look at Bennett. 1200 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,120 He just lost all this weight and he's got hair coming in. 1201 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,000 Man. Bennett's looking so fucking 1202 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,920 dope and like. So now you just, you know, it's 1203 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,880 OK though, it's OK to also look at it like, you know, I can be 1204 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,360 happy for your fortune. I really can. 1205 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,440 Because, you know, it's not necessarily that I don't have 1206 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,520 it's that I can look at that positively. 1207 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,040 And I find that the more positive and the more gratitude, 1208 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,840 more forgiveness that we have, we actually just feel more 1209 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,240 fulfilled on things. Does it mean that we're going to 1210 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,000 be super stressed out still? Fuck yeah. 1211 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,320 Oh, absolutely. Are we still going to have bad 1212 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,280 days? Yeah. 1213 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,440 We're going to have days where we're just like, I feel like a 1214 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,360 fucking fake. I don't even know what I'm 1215 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,760 doing. I have no clue what I'm doing. 1216 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,040 I can't believe that these people tell you the. 1217 00:58:55,080 --> 00:59:00,000 Last day that I didn't think that right, like find somebody. 1218 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,280 I, I haven't asked people this, but you go tell go find somebody 1219 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,720 who's running a business that tells you that they don't think 1220 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,040 that often. Often not like they thought it 1221 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,680 early stage like often I just don't think people talk about. 1222 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,840 It, it wasn't even something that I really thought about 1223 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,960 until that same TV show, Billions. 1224 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,080 And they have that therapist and I'm watching these people 1225 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,640 struggle and I'm like, oh, shit. And then we had Paul Hutchinson 1226 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,440 on and now it's like the first time he walked in, I was like, 1227 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,160 Oh my gosh, she's a billionaire. I'm like, wait, it's a person 1228 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,560 who has what numbers? Who the fuck cares? 1229 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,480 That doesn't mean anything. Yeah, you got Delta a better 1230 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,600 hand on the financial skill. Yeah. 1231 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,840 So then I look at it, I'm like, OK, like it truly. 1232 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,720 I don't see that as being any sort of. 1233 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,720 It'd be a bit it takes perfect. I mean, I, I legitimately have 1234 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,560 never given a shit about that. And then just because I like the 1235 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,120 person, if they're cool, awesome. 1236 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,880 Like I want to meet them. And like when I was a kid, I met 1237 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,600 Jackie Chan in in Park City in the late 90s. 1238 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,800 That's cool. And I met him there and he was 1239 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,920 just cool. And I had this Native American 1240 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,800 friend there he goes, man, you'll be big Chinese, right? 1241 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,600 And he's like, no, I'm Indian. And he goes, and he goes, oh, 1242 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,320 feather, not dot. And we all had a laugh and he 1243 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,800 didn't understand why we were laughing. 1244 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,400 He was just like, 'cause he didn't speak English, but he was 1245 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,400 just a nice guy. I'm like, oh cool. 1246 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,080 It wasn't I. I don't get geeked out on 1247 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,520 celebrities or anything like that. 1248 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,480 I'm like, oh cool, hey, you pretend for a living. 1249 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,320 This is cool, dude. Great job pretending on that 1250 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,920 last time. I, I, I can relate to you on 1251 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:41,560 that one, like not acting different around if I'm on ACNN 1252 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,320 interview or if I'm talking to somebody, like I don't prepare 1253 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,920 for shit because I'm just like, it's just whatever's gonna come 1254 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,920 out is gonna come out. I don't wanna plan it and then 1255 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,800 be mad at myself if I don't go towards plan. 1256 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,560 However I do. I don't like that I do this, but 1257 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,280 IA 1000% treat people differently. 1258 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,720 And like, if I know somebody sold a company for $100 million 1259 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,440 something in me and I, I try to resist it, but they're like I, I 1260 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,720 need to serve this person. And so they could see my value 1261 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,080 probably to store them in my back pocket for a safety 1262 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,320 security net. You know, coming back to what, 1263 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,600 what drives a lot of money because I want if I need to call 1264 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,520 on if, if I know 100 people worth $100 million, then you 1265 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:23,840 know. Somebody's got there's a lot. 1266 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,240 Of people, I don't know what goes on securities though, but 1267 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,360 but 1000% I still, yes, I I still do treat people 1268 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,680 differently based on that and I don't like that I do. 1269 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,720 I'd love to change that. Working on it. 1270 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,160 That's something you recognize. You know, a lot of a lot of it 1271 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,240 came from doing sales because I felt like such an asshole all 1272 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,600 the time because I, I jumped into from phone to consultative 1273 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,840 sales and it was a long sales cycle. 1274 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,080 So the relationship mattered. I had to build a relationship 1275 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,800 with them. I had no fucking clue and I had 1276 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,560 the worst teachers for it. These guys were the slimiest 1277 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,560 dudes ever. This one guy like palmed his 1278 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,200 card and went over to shake this guys hand and it's a networking 1279 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,040 event goes hey man, we'll talk later. 1280 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,280 This motherfucker had like slicked hair too. 1281 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,560 Dude look like Patrick Swayze shit right? 1282 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,160 And when he shook his hand, he dropped the card in the guys 1283 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,720 hand. The guy just goes like, like, 1284 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,280 like, he just handed him like, a used rubber. 1285 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,000 Yeah, full of this guy's chin. What the fuck? 1286 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,880 And he just drops it to the ground. 1287 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,480 And I'm like, this is my teacher. 1288 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,520 Like the guy just looked at him like, it wasn't even, like, 1289 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,040 discussed. It was just, like, I feel bad 1290 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:25,480 for you. Yeah. 1291 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,040 And I learned something from those instances where I'm just 1292 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,880 like, I don't want to feel like an asshole. 1293 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,720 I just don't want to feel like that because it was the worst 1294 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,400 and I went through professional sales schools that were teaching 1295 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,280 me like say this this time, and I did that and I got laughed at. 1296 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,600 The bigger the deals got, the more they didn't give a shit. 1297 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:48,120 Oh yes, 1000% they don't. Care how smooth you are like 1298 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,080 you're fucking 65. Control is literally head nod 1299 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,880 and smile and I can get people a head nod and smile with me. 1300 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,520 They're subliminally agreeing and it's only 30 bucks a month. 1301 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,200 So who gives a shit? Like you could, you could you 1302 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,040 can head nod and smile somebody and then and then DIRECTV. 1303 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,240 It's like, this is a 2 year contract. 80 bucks a month. 1304 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,560 Yeah, it's not the like I literally use this on the doors. 1305 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,720 Like when I'm doing pest control I listen to a grant Cardone. 1306 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,320 Oh yeah, Grant car down the. Hardcore closure, the guard 1307 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:18,720 guide to hardcore. I don't know. 1308 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. close to like the Bible. 1309 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,680 Yes. The closer to hundreds, yes, 1310 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,920 that's the one hundreds of like closes. 1311 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,440 And I drove to Florida. I was halfway through the summer 1312 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,040 and I wasn't halfway to my goal, but I always hit my goals. 1313 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,120 So I'm like, I need to do something. 1314 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,160 And I, it was an 8 hour drive and I just me and my wife 1315 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,040 practiced them while we're driving all the way there. 1316 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,880 All the back. I like how to memorize and 1317 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,720 convert it to pest control. Oh nice. 1318 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,520 And one of them, like these were so silly and I just like, what 1319 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,760 the hell, I'm going to use them. One of them was OK. 1320 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,720 Like you treat yourself, you know, treat yourself. 1321 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,240 You deserve pest control, blah, blah, blah. 1322 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,760 No, no, no. Oh, but your wife deserves it. 1323 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,160 Your wife deserves it. You know, your family deserves 1324 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,240 it. No, no, no. 1325 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,800 And then literally I, and I did it and I said, just do it for 1326 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:00,960 me. Do it for me. 1327 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,520 This helps me out and I would appreciate it. 1328 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:03,760 Close. Yeah. 1329 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,800 Yeah, it did what? What I would do those, I would 1330 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,560 do those ridiculous closes and people would do it. 1331 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,360 But then you get to sell a, a, a $30,000 security system and it's 1332 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,960 like, Nah, much less A10 year contract on a franchise. 1333 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,840 It's like, no, you can't head nod and smile. 1334 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:28,560 Anybody get rid of all of that mumbo jumbo, every single one 1335 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,680 liner, chop that out and just talk to them. 1336 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,520 Yeah, 'cause they want the honesty, the transparency, the 1337 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,200 realness of like, hey, this is a big investment for me. 1338 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,800 I really need to know what the hell I'm getting into. 1339 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,280 And you wanna be comfortable with it because that's actually 1340 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,760 when it happens, right? I mean, that exchange of money 1341 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,120 is exchanging trust. And something will happen. 1342 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,400 Like you give me these little rectangles of value, don't know 1343 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,760 why, but they are valuable. And you're gonna get something 1344 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,120 that ioffer you. And and that trust will go a 1345 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,400 long way 'cause I mean, you know, it's the thing that you 1346 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,200 hate the worst. Like after buyer's remorse. 1347 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,000 Like I only have one instance where I really fucking hated 1348 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,840 what I bought and it was an audio book on network marketing 1349 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,240 'cause I thought networking, Oh, marketing. 1350 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,880 OK, that makes no idea that's MLM. 1351 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,880 And as soon as it got into it, I'm like, the second chapter is 1352 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,360 how to sell your friends and family. 1353 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,040 Literally that's the title of the chapter. 1354 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,680 I'm like, I turn it off and I put this horrible review and I'm 1355 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,840 just like, Oh, I feel gross. But then that trust has always 1356 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,360 been broken right there. Like I can forgive most even on 1357 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,920 something that goes S on a on a financial thing, but man, I 1358 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,360 don't want them to feel like I've duped them some way. 1359 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,440 I really don't. That that's that like keeps me 1360 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,720 up as well. So my and then and then I 1361 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,000 discovered that this is a way better way to sell anyway. 1362 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,120 It's all about trust, right? Sells is, is, is about the 1363 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,600 trust. And so typically it's oh, you 1364 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,360 know, Kirby vacuums are the best because of XYZ and every and 1365 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,680 they're better than everybody else because of everything. 1366 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,760 And look at all of this and it's great and great and great and 1367 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:04,960 great. Please sign here. 1368 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,400 And it's like, OK, well, I am not gonna sign there because I'm 1369 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,160 gonna, one, Google how much this costs. 1370 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,200 If I buy it online, it's probably cheaper. 1371 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,760 And then two, I'm gonna read the negative reviews. 1372 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,600 And then three, I'm gonna look at companies that review vacuums 1373 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,360 and see what they rate as the best value 'cause I don't wanna 1374 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:28,400 spend 2. 1000. 40 if that person shows up with a little pamphlet 1375 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,000 and she does that research for me this is the second competitor 1376 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,080 this is the third competitor this is the 4th competitor 4th 1377 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,800 competitor. If you're if you're if you're 1378 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,040 wanting to go with the best budget item, this is gonna get 1379 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,480 you 80% there for half the cost. However, if you want the 1380 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:44,800 Mercedes then you can take it back. 1381 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:50,240 But like sales people avoid the bad thinking that that's helping 1382 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,120 them. But I was like, no, I have to 1383 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,360 make sure that I outlay all scenarios to protect myself from 1384 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,960 feeling bad in the future. Then I started really pitching 1385 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,240 the bad. But I'm like, here's the pro and 1386 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,960 this is the bad. And This is why people choose 1387 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,880 the pro over the bad. If you agree with that, then you 1388 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,640 know we could sign in. If if not, that's that's totally 1389 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,800 cool too. But by making by competing 1390 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,200 against yourself, you actually build trust. 1391 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,360 Is is really what I'm getting AT. 1392 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,120 And you feel better after. That's definitely. 1393 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,240 Because you're not trying to hide anything, it's just full 1394 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,480 transparency of like, here's what you can get, here's what we 1395 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,000 offer, and here's where it compares to. 1396 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,840 Like if they have half a brain, you can't hide anything anyway 1397 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,680 because it's like, it's like the Internet, everything's exist. 1398 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:32,760 It's. Ridiculous. 1399 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,320 It's just the old ladies. I'm the first person to pull out 1400 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,800 my phone if someone says that. And like I'm Googling that. 1401 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,200 That doesn't sound real. That sounds like ridiculous. 1402 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,680 And I'll just check it right then because I'm like, yeah, I 1403 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,480 don't think so. It's a different day and age, 1404 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,160 definitely. I mean, even when Brandon and I, 1405 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,840 we sold IT services over the phone, like it was you felt 1406 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,240 greasy after a while because you're just selling these old 1407 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,840 ladies. They're like, oh, I could choose 1408 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,680 between my medicine and getting my computer fixed and then 1409 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,320 fucking. We would, I mean, but we were 1410 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,120 told like this, is this when you're young in it, you're just 1411 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,920 like, whatever to do to get the sale? 1412 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,120 I'm pounding these mints. Dude, you're good. 1413 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,520 No worries. Take it with you. 1414 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,960 They're awesome, but it's it's definitely that, right? 1415 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,000 It's getting over that greasiness feel and, and when 1416 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,520 you hear it, it just disturbs you. 1417 01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:22,040 Like I just recently switched my pest control because the guy was 1418 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,960 just straight. He was super honest. 1419 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,319 And he's just like, look, going over there. 1420 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:29,080 My wife's like, all right, cool. She wheeled and dealed it. 1421 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,600 And then I came around the corner and the guy's like, yeah. 1422 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,760 And I listened to the last of it and I was like, cool. 1423 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,760 And I said I kind of coached the people just like you. 1424 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,319 And he goes, how do you think I did? 1425 01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:38,520 And I'm like, dude, it was awesome. 1426 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,840 I said, you sold my wife on it. I said that's that's great. 1427 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,800 Because my wife just, she's like, no. 1428 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,319 Yeah. Fuck off. 1429 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,680 Like, I don't, I don't want to hear this. 1430 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,680 I'll hear him out just because I I feel for him. 1431 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,840 But at the same time, if they come off real sleazy, like one 1432 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,439 kids, like, yeah, you know, we could do all these things. 1433 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,040 Know that. All right, boss, what was your 1434 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,279 what was your e-mail? I'm not giving you my e-mail. 1435 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,000 OK. All right, boss. 1436 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,120 So what was that? What's that phone number for 1437 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,279 you? First of all, don't call me, 1438 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:06,960 boss. And 2nd, I'm sorry. 1439 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,200 I'm going to tell you to fuck off. 1440 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,080 Close the door. Then I had Vivint Pros come 1441 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,840 knock at my house and I'm like, I worked for Vivint. 1442 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,920 I have a million friends who work for Vivint. 1443 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:18,960 I don't need you coming to sell me. 1444 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,880 I know exactly what services you offer. 1445 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,800 And I kept and he's like, well, we could get you. 1446 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,000 And I'm like, bro, I'm not interested at all. 1447 01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:27,960 Like Thanks for your time though. 1448 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,040 It's a different world now, you can look it up. 1449 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,560 Back then it was a lot easier to just trust then verify. 1450 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,920 But now it's all verified. Then I'll trust you. 1451 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,800 Even slightly significant purchases, even if you can close 1452 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,640 them right then and there, they're gonna look you up after. 1453 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,760 Yeah, they're gonna find what you were trying to hide. 1454 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,439 And then they're gonna cancel. And you already have. 1455 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,920 You've been trained on how to overcome that objection, but now 1456 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,000 you can't even overcome it because she doesn't wanna talk 1457 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,960 to you because she cancelled, because she doesn't trust you. 1458 01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,680 So it's like, that's why it's like, here's all the bad, let's 1459 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,160 get all your objections out because guess what? 1460 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,520 I want you to hear the answers from me rather than. 1461 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,360 Whenever you're going to go to the door, I. 1462 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,720 Mean it's so much harder to switch somebody from a no to a 1463 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,720 yes than just like, keep them at a yes. 1464 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,440 Yeah, Oh. Yeah, once once they've 1465 01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:14,280 cancelled to like get them to re sign up for. 1466 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,120 Any oh, it's such a pain. Very, very low percentages. 1467 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,200 I worked in retention over at Vivint after I'd gone out and 1468 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,240 knocked doors because my buddy was still manager of the office 1469 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,640 and he's like, you should come knock doors again. 1470 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,320 I'm like, no, I'm good. Like, but I'll do the stuff 1471 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,120 inside on the phone. I just don't want to go knock 1472 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,560 doors. And I saved so many in retention 1473 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,400 because it was like, this is all the stuff on the doors, but I'm 1474 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,840 just building relationship, talking with these people and 1475 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,240 then like keeping them on there. And it was super easy after 1476 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,800 knocking doors. And that that goes into, you 1477 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,800 know, your personal life too, because it's I don't like to 1478 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,480 treat those that I make a real connection with any lesser than 1479 01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:54,680 if if, you know, they were just trying to sell me, I would 1480 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,240 really want to be able to have that across the board. 1481 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,200 So I scope, man, I just want to be treated that way. 1482 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,160 And if they become, you know, super pushy and, and shoving 1483 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,280 their Dick into my hip and like, OK, OK, I have no problem going, 1484 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,520 Hey, I don't, I don't do that, man. 1485 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,400 I don't do that. Kick you in the Dick, punch you 1486 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,960 out and make you cry, right? But I mean. 1487 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,200 I can feel it on my hip. So it's gonna happen, Jesus. 1488 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:22,520 It's got a shack attack coming towards you, but it, it just 1489 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,480 building the relationship is so much more important. 1490 01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:28,360 And that's why, you know, like for us, it's it's been a 1491 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,280 catalyst for us with cannabis and almost anywhere like we, we 1492 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,240 make friends just because we smoke cannabis and it doesn't 1493 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,800 matter who they are, right? I mean, if you if you make 1494 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,560 friends with somebody, they could even be like a celebrity 1495 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,080 or whatever pretend pretender or they throw a ball and they're 1496 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,120 just like anybody. Else and not only are they just 1497 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,600 like anybody else and the fact that they're humans, they have 1498 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:58,600 no less down periods of their lives. 1499 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,120 Yeah, stress, anxiety, depression than any other. 1500 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:07,080 Person that they don't there's they don't exist, like nobody 1501 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:13,240 exists and you whether we've defined it or not, I think it's 1502 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,400 like, I want to be like this person, right? 1503 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,160 You kind of have that even if you don't set the person, but at 1504 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,280 least this how I want to peer. Well, actually make sure that 1505 01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:24,000 you narrow it down to one person. 1506 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,040 Like if I want to be the most successful business person in 1507 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,400 this category, like I'm going to go find that person and say 1508 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,560 that's why I want to. Be model after yeah. 1509 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,960 OK, then go analyze our life. If you if if they've done a 1510 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,280 documentary, they've written a book, and then you're going to 1511 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,720 realize that they have just as many problems as you. 1512 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,720 And then you're like, OK, well, did I want to be like that 1513 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,000 person? Because I thought that my 1514 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,840 problems are going to be solved? Yes, that's what we do. 1515 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,960 OK then that makes no sense. My whole life goal, I need to 1516 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:57,120 now go change it, rather than go my entire life to achieve what I 1517 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,400 didn't, what I'm what I was already doing, which was 1518 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,560 problems and successes on a day-to-day basis, up and down. 1519 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,480 That's cool. That's really cool. 1520 01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:07,760 Good way to look at it. Well, and it's cool that you're 1521 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,280 you're at that point. Do you meet a lot and have the 1522 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,760 same mentality as you do within business? 1523 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,800 Yeah, I, I and, and I think so, I think money definitely helps 1524 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:23,240 with that because like on my podcast, we'll talk about legacy 1525 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,200 and the people who have thought about it have really good 1526 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,920 answers. I and when I say really good, 1527 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,400 you could tell when somebody has contemplated it, defined it and 1528 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,840 lived by it. You just can't. 1529 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,760 And then other ones when it's like, oh, that's a good 1530 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,440 question. What do I want my legacy? 1531 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,720 And even just that, it's like, Oh, well, you haven't thought 1532 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,320 about this at least in the last six months. 1533 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,000 You talk to people that, that are retired and young and they 1534 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,160 know that they know they've, they've thought about that. 1535 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,240 If they're have a lot of money, the same amount, you know, two 1536 01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,920 people are sitting on $10 million and one person sold 1537 01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,160 their company and is semi retired and just do podcasting 1538 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,920 or whatever. Something more passion project 1539 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,400 that guy's thought about and he knows what he wants his legacy. 1540 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,920 The other person who sold his money for the, the, the company 1541 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,960 for the exact same one amount, but then immediately started at 1542 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,560 the next company probably hasn't. 1543 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:18,040 That's, that's very generalized. But so in, in the sense that 1544 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,840 money gives you more free time to go explore that or money to 1545 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,040 buy mushrooms or whatever it is. It does. 1546 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,760 But I, I think it's, it's, it's unfortunate that you have to get 1547 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,840 to that point and I don't think you do. 1548 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,320 I think if you listen to me, don't trust me, 'cause Oh, it's 1549 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:35,920 easy for you to say you, you did it. 1550 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,440 Don't do it with money. Just do it with any goal you've 1551 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:42,240 ever set that you've achieved. Look back at to the, the, the 1552 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,560 highest achievement that you're the most proud of in your life. 1553 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,400 How did you feel like you're like, I remember in high school, 1554 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,160 I wanted to be Allstate. You know, they pick whatever the 1555 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,640 hell even that even means. I don't know. 1556 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,120 I wanted to be first team Allstate and waited till the 1557 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,400 morning and boom, daily first team Allstate felt great. 1558 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,200 I didn't even get one college look, you know what I like it 1559 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:06,520 meant it meant nothing. It meant absolutely nothing and 1560 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,200 it just lasted for like a day. I was on the newspaper. 1561 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,760 I was in the newspaper and I was like, that's so cool. 1562 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,840 And then wrestling and then I was on the front pages of the 1563 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,720 sports. So cool for. 1564 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,000 A week fleeting happiness and fleeting joy that you're like, 1565 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,840 oh, I got this. And then it's like you're 15 1566 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,080 minutes dopamine or serotonin rash. 1567 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,600 So and it's it's and now it's easy to be like to just kind of 1568 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,520 brush it off and it is very important. 1569 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,240 Enjoy those 15 minutes. Enjoy those two weeks like in 1570 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,520 Just savour it, soak it up. Yeah, soak it up. 1571 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,840 But just know that it's going to go away and that's OK. 1572 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,680 Yeah, oh man. That's perfect, man. 1573 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,960 I mean, and it's I think that's something good for anybody to 1574 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,760 take from this is that you know what it's it's just moments and 1575 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,160 be and and you can look back on those moments and that's 1576 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,520 fantastic. But to be consumed by chasing 1577 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,760 something all the time, that really that's, that's fucking 1578 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,240 hard. Yeah, and for me it looks like 1579 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,400 I'm chasing money, but really I'm man it. 1580 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,760 That's never crossed my mind. I, I've smoked too much. 1581 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,360 Well, I, I just think most people, at least how I view 1582 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,600 business people, it's like, oh, well, you know, you're, you're 1583 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,440 just chasing more and more and more and more and more. 1584 01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:27,880 But I'm like avoiding the moment. 1585 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,400 Like I, I'm avoiding the presence because it's like, 1586 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,480 well, am I happy with who I am? Am I doing what I want to do? 1587 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,080 Does like I just want to avoid this. 1588 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,040 So let me just focus on business and the next, next, next, next. 1589 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,480 So like it looks like I'm or I think it could look like that. 1590 01:16:43,480 --> 01:16:45,600 I'm trying to grab something. But but I really do think it's 1591 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,960 avoidance. Like I'm avoiding the present 1592 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,480 moment. And it's like you, you run your 1593 01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:54,520 whole life avoiding the present moment to hopefully be present 1594 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,800 in your 60s. And it's it's like that doesn't 1595 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,240 make. That doesn't. 1596 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,000 Make any sense? Why? 1597 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,920 Why miss the best times of your life? 1598 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,320 And, and there's a balance because at the beginning I said 1599 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,040 something about like religion in general, teaching that the 1600 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:13,520 philosophy is it it if you keep these rules, these commandments, 1601 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,800 and you're happy, it's because my religion's true and you'll be 1602 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,440 rewarded in heaven. If you keep my these 1603 01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:22,120 commandments and you're not happy, that's because God's 1604 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,320 trying you and you will still be rewarded in heaven either way. 1605 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,640 If you do what I say, you get to go to heaven, right? 1606 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,200 And it's all about the delayed gratification And and there's 1607 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,280 and in large part that's all we do every single day is delayed 1608 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,680 gratification. Taking a hit of this is 1609 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,920 unhealthy for me, but I'm not gonna delay the gratification. 1610 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,000 I'm gonna have it right now. But if I do it too much, then 1611 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,960 I'm going to, you know, jeopardize my health in the in 1612 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,680 the future. So it's always finding that 1613 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,880 balance. But I was so much to I will 1614 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,600 sacrifice anything today for a better future in five years. 1615 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,720 So like, even when I started making like a quarter million in 1616 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,360 a few months going, I didn't spend anything. 1617 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,520 We were living in a basement apartment and I would make a 1618 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,840 quarter, you know, 50 to 100 grand a month. 1619 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:08,880 But just for the summer and same thing, basement, apartment, 1620 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,600 'cause I'm just like horde, horde, horde, horde. 1621 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,240 So I went excessive. And. 1622 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,120 Then there's also the other thing of like, oh, I'm not even 1623 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,960 gonna think about tomorrow. I'm not even gonna think about 1624 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,560 where I'm gonna work or how I'm gonna have money, you know? 1625 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,320 So there's definitely a balance, but I geared way toward more 1626 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,640 towards that religious extremism, or at least that's 1627 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,920 how I interpreted it. Fighting the Ying and the Yang. 1628 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,640 So. Yeah, it's hard and and it's 1629 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,880 good to hear that you've got for you, you've got the perspective 1630 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:42,120 that you need to feel like not 100% fulfilled, but not like 1631 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,040 completely worthless. Like you're, you're riding an 1632 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,560 even wave. You're just keeping it going. 1633 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,240 Yeah. And I'm, I'm, I'm trying to 1634 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,080 figure out what the wave is. That's what I love. 1635 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,120 It's like how much anyways, it, it was a big shift just to 1636 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,080 realize like I'm not after being happy all the time, that's no 1637 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,560 longer my goal. Like I just thought one day I'll 1638 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,840 solve all our problems and be happy every day. 1639 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,160 That's not my goal because that's impossible. 1640 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,040 And that's, that's just such a big relief. 1641 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:14,640 So now when I see problems and it's like, wait, starting a 1642 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,840 business and I think it was gonna be easy. 1643 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,640 Of course not. So why am I surprised when it's 1644 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,880 hard? Every time I'm surprised this 1645 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,280 morning, I get a text mark, Mark, new marketing director, 1646 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,920 quit, no two week notice. And I'm like, well, and then I 1647 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,360 literally thought, OK, why am I surprised right now? 1648 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,440 And I and I was able to give myself that action. 1649 01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:37,440 That's cool. But the other 20 times that's 1650 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:39,480 gonna happen today, I won't remind myself of that and I'll 1651 01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:44,080 just sit in anxiety. But it's the that time that you 1652 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,600 do that takes away that anxiety and stress that you would have 1653 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,360 had and allows you to just be more present in this moment. 1654 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,920 Let me drop some knowledge that I learned yesterday. 1655 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,480 All right, let's hear it. For all you weak pussy men that 1656 01:19:56,480 --> 01:20:02,080 don't see therapists. So I'm going through and this is 1657 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,880 a new therapist and I like switching therapists because 1658 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,000 they different insights, different insights and and it's 1659 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,920 OK. Well, the times that I can't 1660 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,960 immediately, you know. Like anxiety arises and it's 1661 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,120 whatever it like we're not, let's not say anxiety, stress 1662 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:20,440 arises. So we don't call anxiety at 1663 01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:22,160 night. And it keeps you up at night 1664 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,120 because you're worrying about how to do XYZ tomorrow. 1665 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,560 And you know, what are the different techniques? 1666 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,840 And she gave me 4 super good techniques and I was gonna 1667 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:30,320 share. With you. 1668 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,200 Yeah, dude, that sounds awesome. Love to hear that. 1669 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:36,480 Yeah, sure. First one, mindfulness, the 1670 01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:40,240 thought arises and then you identify is this, and this is 1671 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,800 pertaining to stress or anxiety. Stress, anxiety, is it toxic or 1672 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:48,080 productive and productive is defined as I can quickly, more 1673 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,640 or less quickly come up with something that I an actual item 1674 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:56,080 that I can do that when I do it, it alleviates that toxic is it 1675 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,000 doesn't matter what I'm going to do or I come up with the idea 1676 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,800 and I have to wait till tomorrow because it's midnight, but that 1677 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,960 idea just keeps ruminating. So identify toxic or productive 1678 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,920 reframe with the mindfulness and this for me. 1679 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,720 And and then she's like having me say it out loud. 1680 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,320 And I, I always feel weird doing that. 1681 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:14,760 I'm like, just what do you mean? I'm reading it. 1682 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,520 But anyways, I do so it's I'm noticing I'm having the thought 1683 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:23,760 that XYZ, whatever you're having anxiety about, I guess I'll, 1684 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,480 I'll guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens or 1685 01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:27,360 something like that. Right. 1686 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:32,160 But just framing it in the Oh man, the thought is, what if I 1687 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,640 can't open the store on time? And then all these employees and 1688 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,520 blah, blah, blah, OK, and then just reframing and saying, I'm 1689 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,480 noticing, I'm having the thought about this. 1690 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:43,920 And then it's like, oh, it automatically makes you think 1691 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,000 like that's just a thought. Like that's all it is. 1692 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,040 So anyways, and this and then and then the last one is 1693 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,400 grounding or redirecting to the present moment on just 1694 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,320 immediately going to your 5 senses. 1695 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,320 So like, OK, acknowledged it was a toxic whatever. 1696 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,680 I reframed it. And then I'm immediately if I'm 1697 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,960 washing dishes, I'm going to focus on what can I smell touch 1698 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,640 here and see. And then it so you're not, your 1699 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,360 brain doesn't go back in that loop anyways. 1700 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,360 That that was one of the four. I don't need to read the other 1701 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:14,600 ones 'cause that went longer than I thought. 1702 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,560 It's cool. It's really interesting because 1703 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,720 it's awesome. But this is a plug for therapy, 1704 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,480 that's why. That's beautiful. 1705 01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:24,400 No, that's all I'm looking at because it's so freaking 1706 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,840 helpful. Well, and that it ties into what 1707 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,840 you do, right? I mean for a business for dirty 1708 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:34,760 dough, these you, you created this cookie empire that's 1709 01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,320 growing all the time. He faced adversity getting into 1710 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,080 it, which was fun. It was super cool 'cause you 1711 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,080 utilized it, you roll you, you rolled with it. 1712 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,600 So many that I heard about being sued by this company. 1713 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,960 They just folded up. You're like, oh shit, sorry, 1714 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,000 we'll give in. And you're just said no, you can 1715 01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,400 go fuck yourself with that sharp stick. 1716 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,240 And if you can't find one, I'll help you find it like and you 1717 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,000 and you gave it to him, dude, and it was awesome. 1718 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:08,120 You stuck your guns to it and that says a lot to your to who 1719 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,760 you are. And that that really just keeps 1720 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,440 building upon that. Like, you don't see like, yeah, 1721 01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:16,320 I'm at the apex where I'm supposed to be. 1722 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,160 I'm Axelrod. You don't see yourself that way. 1723 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:20,920 You see, you're always improving, right? 1724 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,560 Absolutely. And I still don't know really 1725 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,240 where the line is, 'cause it's like you say that and I hear, I 1726 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,560 understand it and I appreciate it, like I really appreciate it. 1727 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:37,720 But at the same time, my view is show me a universe that I could 1728 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,440 have done something else. Like what did I do special? 1729 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,080 I just, I just lived. I just lived according to my 1730 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:49,960 wants, desires, values, education, previous 1731 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,360 environmental impact and genetics. 1732 01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,160 It's all like. Reality that unfolded. 1733 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,080 Yeah. So it's like, I, I do, I am 1734 01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,080 grateful that I am that person, but I'm also like, I didn't do 1735 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,680 anything to become that person. Trying to strip away the pride. 1736 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:04,480 From it. Interesting. 1737 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,800 Take the ego out of it and just realize it's. 1738 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,600 The situation of and I can imagine that like I, I, I work 1739 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,480 really hard. I mean, the ego, my death, my 1740 01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:17,120 death and my ego, it's lasting. Like I really don't hold that 1741 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,760 ego. I can't 'cause it's just gone, 1742 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,440 right? And I mushrooms do. 1743 01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:23,760 That that's what I was gonna say and that's why I feel like I 1744 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,040 just, I don't care to look stupid. 1745 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,080 Yeah. Like last time I was, I was over 1746 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,120 here. Like I was very hesitant to do a 1747 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,280 podcast while high 'cause I wasn't vocal about. 1748 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,200 Your consumption and stuff the same. 1749 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,240 Yeah, or psychedelics or and then even, I mean, even today 1750 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,680 I'm sitting on this and I'm like smoking. 1751 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:43,840 And I'm like, oh, but there's not a. 1752 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,440 And then I noticed there's a camera halfway through. 1753 01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:47,880 I'm like, wait, but why does that change anything? 1754 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,080 And then I'm like, Oh, well, some of the board members have 1755 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,760 said stuff about social media and I'm just like, whatever. 1756 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,960 But it, it's still coming. And I, and then I can get rid of 1757 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,520 it. But it, it is like, but I, I'm 1758 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,840 the chairman of a company. Like one, I don't, what does 1759 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,800 that even mean? Two, should I be smoking on a 1760 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,800 podcast? And then three, well, why not? 1761 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,960 It's legal and I'm not doing anything wrong, you know, but 1762 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,760 I'm still getting over that. I've I've still definitely. 1763 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,200 Won. And this is part of it too, 1764 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,520 because we want, we want those to be able to see that. 1765 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,560 And to normalize. Yeah, totally, because it's not 1766 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:28,240 not just for people who waste their lives or can't make good 1767 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,760 decisions. This is opened up a lot in our 1768 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,640 lives, in our minds, in our thoughts. 1769 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,560 And so as we are pursuing this, like that's one of the great 1770 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:43,000 things about bringing you here is where you been, what's going 1771 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,280 on and and that you're just like anybody else. 1772 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,360 So when somebody looks at it, it's to think fortunate where 1773 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,280 you're at because you were dealt the right hand. 1774 01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,320 If you're in a shitty situation that. 1775 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,160 Sucks. Well, I that's what I would love 1776 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,360 anybody that is in a shitty situation, understand that there 1777 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,400 is legitimately no difference between them. 1778 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,760 And I don't even want to say myself, but anybody like you're 1779 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:15,280 not where you want to be. Because for whatever reason, 1780 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,600 that willpower that when you knew you were supposed to do 1781 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,360 something, but another thought arose that you shouldn't do it. 1782 01:26:23,480 --> 01:26:27,160 And that led to an action like it's just, it's just, it just is 1783 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:28,720 what it is. You couldn't have done any 1784 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,960 otherwise. So get rid of that shame and 1785 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,600 guilt and embarrassment for past mistakes because you couldn't 1786 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,480 have done anything else. How you didn't show up in the 1787 01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:41,680 moment that. It is what it is. 1788 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,560 But it but it's yeah, like as it is, what it is to me is, well, 1789 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,000 it's already passed, so you can't change it. 1790 01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,560 And I'm saying no, let's let's, let's invent The Time Machine. 1791 01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,280 Let's go back in the past. And the circumstances are the 1792 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,040 same. Your wants are the same, your 1793 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,160 desires are the same. Your environment's the same. 1794 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,240 Everything's the same. What's gonna cause you to make a 1795 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:01,800 different decision? Nothing. 1796 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,520 So it's it's not even like it just happened. 1797 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,840 I can't change the past. Like even if you had a time 1798 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,480 machine, you can't change the past. 1799 01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,960 And it's well 'cause every circumstance prior to that is 1800 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,600 already unfolded, and that's what leads to the current 1801 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,360 circumstances. So unless you really truly go 1802 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,840 back to the very beginning and write from square one everything 1803 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,800 over in some possible world that you think differently thoughts 1804 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,520 from the start like, how are you supposed to really change that 1805 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,640 anyway? Yeah, I mean, so yesterday I had 1806 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,720 a guy on my podcast and he I was, we were focusing on 1807 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:38,800 partnerships. That's just where the 1808 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,160 conversation went and super intrigued by it. 1809 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,200 And you know, you got screwed out of a few 100 grand. 1810 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,440 The first partnership, second partnership, the dude just took 1811 01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:50,880 off with two and a half million. And I I brought up this and and 1812 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,120 the guys had already gone through the forgiveness and he's 1813 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:54,800 like, like, it is what is that? I don't even care. 1814 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,120 I don't even care and we went through it's like, OK, well, 1815 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,560 what about that guy, though? So like we one you can 1816 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,480 sympathize with that person. What had to be going through his 1817 01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:07,040 head to feel like he had to screw over business partner 1818 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:11,520 partner like and then like I could understand that there's 1819 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,880 he's he made the decision that was best in his mind, like he 1820 01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,120 weighed out the pros and cons. He knew they were going to maybe 1821 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,320 consequences, but the pros outweighed those. 1822 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:24,400 So like, that's what he did so I could sympathize with him and 1823 01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,920 like, OK, there was a a valid reason that I made the decision. 1824 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,240 And then you can empathize with them. 1825 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,880 And like, do you feel like, do you think he feels good about 1826 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,600 that? Yeah, He knows he's the guy. 1827 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,480 He stole two and a half million dollars, right? 1828 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,160 He knows he's that guy. No, that sucks. 1829 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,240 It's like, it sucks that he made that decision. 1830 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,960 Why did he choose those pros over those cons? 1831 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,520 Why were his values different at that time? 1832 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:47,880 Nobody knows. He doesn't know. 1833 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:53,400 It just had to happen that way. And then going back and I forgot 1834 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,440 to say but I already said it so I was just summarizing. 1835 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,960 That's OK bro. These have been some really 1836 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:04,080 incredible deep like it was so. Good and honestly man, cuz I 1837 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,760 just I've heard you on other podcasts. 1838 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,360 I'm a big fan of what you're doing and I think you're an 1839 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:15,040 awesome person and you know, it's, it's always the same shit 1840 01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,560 every time. Tell us about this your success. 1841 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,640 I'm always plugging in this, this philosophy. 1842 01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,680 It's awesome. I'm like sliding them in like, 1843 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,400 because if you believe this and if you were going to believe 1844 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:27,960 that, you could get rid of all your shame, guilt in there. 1845 01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,360 Yeah, I'm a mission. I'm a salesperson still like 1846 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,160 whatever I believe I'm like that's. 1847 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,000 What your question, Yeah. No, but that's perfect. 1848 01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:37,080 Cannabis, it's like. Cannabis school, you know. 1849 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,840 It's all it. It's just being able to utilize 1850 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,000 this amazing connect. Let me do one more plug. 1851 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:43,880 Yeah. All right. 1852 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,800 For psychedelics, because when I hung up the phone like as 1853 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,040 answered the door, that guy called me and he's like, I'm 1854 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:50,600 doing something with mental health and this and that. 1855 01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,640 And you know, I'm just telling you in case to get your wheels 1856 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,160 turning. I don't know in case I can help 1857 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,840 or something in the future. And so he's telling me and I 1858 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,160 don't really know him that well, but he's he's like, I've been 1859 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:04,960 seeing a therapist because I just saw your posts or this and 1860 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,560 that. And I've been seeing a therapist 1861 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,840 about porn addiction as as well as with my wife. 1862 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,440 And I'm like one immediate respect for that dude. 1863 01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:13,280 I'm like, I love that you just told me that. 1864 01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:17,640 And we've met twice. ANYWAYS, the the conversation 1865 01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,880 led to psychedelics. And he's like, oh, I haven't, I 1866 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,320 haven't needed psychedelics. So now I'm gonna give my 1867 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,800 rebuttal to that. Nobody needs psychedelics, 1868 01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,800 right? But a lot of and it's like, OK, 1869 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,800 can you achieve those states? And I'm talking to people to use 1870 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,320 a psychedelic like mushrooms from the earth. 1871 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:40,880 Psilocybin is no no legal overdose, no toxicity. 1872 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,480 Start small, start with a half a gram weight at least an hour. 1873 01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:46,800 I mean, I'm not. A or even a test of a gram. 1874 01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,800 But like start with doing a little weight an hour and a half 1875 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,320 like easier way into it. Have somebody there with 1876 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,720 experience, watch YouTube videos, watch how to change your 1877 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,080 mind. Don't just go do it. 1878 01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:03,160 But all that aside, I I do think everybody should do it because 1879 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,000 it's you cannot achieve those states with without 1880 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,800 psychedelics. You can achieve psychedelic like 1881 01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,640 states, but they're different. It's yeah. 1882 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:16,360 I don't know what India is like because I've never been there. 1883 01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,560 I can imagine it. But I you. 1884 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,000 Can look at pictures. But I don't know till I go 1885 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,360 there. I don't know what Indian food 1886 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,400 tastes like. I can imagine it, I can look at 1887 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:25,640 pictures, maybe I can even smell. 1888 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:29,640 I don't know. There's no experience you can 1889 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,720 get like on psychedelics and without them, like you don't 1890 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,800 even know what you didn't need. Yeah, You know, I. 1891 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,440 Did and. Then the other thing is, Oh 1892 01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:42,680 well, it's like, why can't you do it without it? 1893 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,600 Will you? Why can't you? 1894 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,600 Oh achieve those stage. Without it, why can't you walk 1895 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,680 around without clothes? Like why do you use clothes as a 1896 01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,080 tool to keep you warm like you use? 1897 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:58,360 We use tools in every second of every day and a psychedelic is a 1898 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,640 tool to reach a deeper level of consciousness. 1899 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,280 And it's like you use a phone as a tool and your shoes is a tool, 1900 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:09,040 Your car, your keys. Walmart is a pretty good. 1901 01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,120 Tool that you just have to walk your ass in there and get 1902 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,760 whatever you want. Like all of these are shortcuts. 1903 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,720 Why are we gonna say let's do shortcuts on everything in life 1904 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:22,840 and except for finding deep meaning in consciousness, 1905 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,480 resolving trauma, and understanding consciousness with 1906 01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:27,880 that one, I'm not gonna use a shortcut. 1907 01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,520 There's no tools for that. Especially not a drug that I 1908 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,880 can't overdose on it. And it's like, could you eat 1909 01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:37,360 ibuprofen or Pepto Bismol or Tylenol? 1910 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,440 And I'll be eating the same amount of mushrooms and we'll 1911 01:32:39,440 --> 01:32:42,000 see who dies first like. Oh yeah, right. 1912 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,600 But yeah, it's so taboo and anyways. 1913 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:51,440 I do like Utah's approved psilocybin and MDMA for therapy. 1914 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,160 When did? That happen. 1915 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,080 Just recently. Just recently, the last couple 1916 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,320 weeks they were within the last month or so. 1917 01:32:57,440 --> 01:32:58,880 Awesome. Yeah, the clinic I'm working 1918 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,400 with right now is working on being one of the very first, if 1919 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,800 not the first qualified place to be able to start. 1920 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,240 That's. Sick that is recently 1921 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,960 interesting. So my my parents are both LDS. 1922 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,720 They're both Mormon still and my dad is actually considered 1923 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,160 because his new wife is in the medical field and. 1924 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:21,120 She opened up the doors to to all members of a religion that I 1925 01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:24,120 think that that's bad. And it's The funny thing is, I 1926 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,280 don't think that the Mormon religion says it's. 1927 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:26,640 Bad. No. 1928 01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:27,840 No. Interpretation. 1929 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:32,200 The We had Paul on our show a year ago or so and he took down 1930 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:33,760 to Jamaica. Oh, that Bishop. 1931 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,440 Yeah, I heard him talking. Many bishops, he took down like 1932 01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,360 20 people from Utah that were in the legislature and Bishop Ricks 1933 01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,280 and stuff and they did their first psilocybin experience. 1934 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,440 And he said they did two different types. 1935 01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:48,320 They did one that was very, you sit on your own, it's very 1936 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,600 clinical and that and he said the very first time was terrible 1937 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,200 for them. They're like, why would anyone 1938 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,240 ever do this? And then the second time, the 1939 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,000 second day was all done with the proper set, the proper setting 1940 01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:59,760 had more of the community in that. 1941 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,440 And those were like for I think it was over 90% of them. 1942 01:34:04,440 --> 01:34:07,360 That was the closest experience, connection, feeling to God they 1943 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,880 have ever experienced. And these are religious people 1944 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,360 who go to church all the time, do all of these things. 1945 01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,160 They're saying like it strengthened their. 1946 01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,880 Connection, yeah. No, I believe it it it built a 1947 01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:19,160 lot of strength for my connection. 1948 01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,600 Illegal. You're not supposed to do that 1949 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:21,880 legal thing. Illegal things. 1950 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:23,920 But I look at that, I'm like, yeah, you're also not supposed 1951 01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,320 to jaywalk. Yeah, you're not supposed to 1952 01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,440 speed. You're not supposed to. 1953 01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:28,840 You're supposed to use your blinkers. 1954 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,240 But I see cops and all of these people are showing. 1955 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,920 Yeah. Again, you're not gonna keep all 1956 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:39,880 of the laws in the government, but the one that you choose is 1957 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,760 the one that could potentially change your life, and that's the 1958 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,120 one that you're going to draw the line like. 1959 01:34:44,440 --> 01:34:45,960 But I won't break that law. Yeah. 1960 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,840 OK, don't break it. Which is interesting, yeah. 1961 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,160 And especially when you can see all of the research and study 1962 01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:57,680 and benefits from like PTSD, depression, anxiety, like the 1963 01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,800 benefits of psilocybin are massive. 1964 01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:06,760 And like people who are cured or healed from PTSD or depression, 1965 01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:11,480 all of these things sometimes from one trip, which is crazy, 1966 01:35:11,480 --> 01:35:15,760 but more in a therapeutic sense, like you could deal really deal 1967 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,120 with all of these underlying issues. 1968 01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,040 From like the ketamine, I mean when we did ketamine together, 1969 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,200 that like the best way I could describe it is that something's 1970 01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:25,680 gone. I don't know what it is and I 1971 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:29,520 don't want it back. Like it, it truly just like, put 1972 01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,680 me in a different. It just took me from another 1973 01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:34,920 dimension. Yeah. 1974 01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,320 Like I was in another dimension during that time. 1975 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,200 And then when it was over, it was over. 1976 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,960 It just stopped. Like all of a sudden I'm like, 1977 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,400 whoa. That's so short lived. 1978 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,880 It's really cool that it's like comes on and then you're yeah, 1979 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:48,920 you're done. That's crazy. 1980 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,840 Screw up your whole night. Yeah, it's so amazing. 1981 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,480 It was. Well ketamine therapies are huge 1982 01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:56,960 here too. I feel like there's quite a few 1983 01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,000 clinics now that do ketamine therapy. 1984 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:02,920 Well, now they, I mean you can. You can get it prescribed and 1985 01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,760 shipped to your house from 20 different companies nationwide. 1986 01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,200 Oh wow. Yeah, 'cause I get all the ads 1987 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:09,520 from for all of them. Yeah. 1988 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,200 Which is funny because I've been, I've had it prescribed for 1989 01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:16,200 a few months, which which is way, I mean, you show up to a 1990 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,920 pharmacy and you pay 4 bucks for a trophy rather than buying it 1991 01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,560 from who knows where, you know what I mean? 1992 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,400 Like, I love that you can get it. 1993 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,360 That's, it's, it's amazing. And then also doing it at your 1994 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,360 house rather than the clinical setting is you have to go, 1995 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,240 'cause I did it. It's like you have to do a six 1996 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,760 treatment package for two grand. And every time you have to go 1997 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,680 there, you have to have somebody sitting in the room with you. 1998 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,800 And they like just put you in like this cold little dungeon 1999 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:46,160 put you up on AIV. And it's like, hey, see, in an 2000 01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:48,400 hour like that sounds terrible. That's it. 2001 01:36:48,440 --> 01:36:50,720 Yeah, that's their certain. Setting and good experience. 2002 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,880 Like it's literally like sitting in a dental's. 2003 01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,040 Like not even bright lights though. 2004 01:36:56,040 --> 01:37:00,200 And you miss so much of like the healing like experience. 2005 01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,400 All of them are like. From that. 2006 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,640 That's no, that's the one that I went to and then I went to 2007 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:08,520 another one and she it was talk therapy before and then the 2008 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,760 Academy and tension setting and then the Academy mean and then 2009 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:18,000 after it was talked there again. So like that was awesome. 2010 01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:19,480 And that's I think how it should be. 2011 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:23,040 But even that way I have you have to have somebody to drive 2012 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,440 you there, stay with you and then drive you back. 2013 01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:26,920 I got three. So like now I have to get a 2014 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,280 babysitter on top. Of 300 bucks. 2015 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,320 You know, so it's amazing that the laws are changing your. 2016 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:33,680 But yeah, you can get it at home. 2017 01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:35,800 That's wild. That's really cool though, 2018 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,800 'cause I feel like that's a better place where people can 2019 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:40,720 feel safer. They can set up the setting and 2020 01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:44,920 set correctly instead of like the very clinical doctor's 2021 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,440 office. Like that's not a very good safe 2022 01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:50,080 place that people are like, hey, I wanna. 2023 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,920 Yeah, and just the fact that you have an IV rather than something 2024 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:55,040 in your mouth. And then the other thing is 2025 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:56,760 like, again, start small, start small. 2026 01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,680 Start like you get a trophy and they tell you put it in your 2027 01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,640 mouth. I would literally cut it into 2028 01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,280 fourths and put a fourth in my mouth. 2029 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:04,720 Yeah. Yeah, I did in half. 2030 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,480 I, you know, and, and just like and just feel it and, and like, 2031 01:38:08,480 --> 01:38:10,920 OK, this is what it feels like now I'm going to take the other 2032 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:12,840 three fours or, or half. Whatever that's like with 2033 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,880 mushrooms, everyone who is like, oh, I want to try and like cool, 2034 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,800 here's a microdose, Try a microdose and it's a 10th of 2035 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:22,640 gram is what I get them 'cause it's so small and I'm like, this 2036 01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,600 will let you see like you can feel what it's like in there. 2037 01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,240 I did micro dosing it was one 1 1/2. 2038 01:38:29,480 --> 01:38:31,080 Is that where you never started at? 2039 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:32,720 Yeah. Oh wow. 2040 01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:36,920 Yeah, see. .15. OK, .15 is a 10. 2041 01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:38,960 What are you saying? .15 yeah. 2042 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,480 Yeah, that's what mine were. OK, Yeah, yeah. 2043 01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:44,640 So that's a micro dose you're saying a gram and 1/2 is 1.5g so 2044 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,760 I'll. Do that, do a half a gram pretty 2045 01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,880 often and I could feel 1/2. I don't really get into it but I 2046 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,440 1/2 a grandma could feel it. Yeah, a micro dose for me will 2047 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:56,760 get me on a really nice. I'm like super happy, real easy 2048 01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,360 to talk to. I normally am anyways, but. 2049 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:02,080 I'm gonna need to do it again. I just, I just don't know the 2050 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,200 difference, but I also don't know if I was paying attention 2051 01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:05,480 you. Know what I mean? 2052 01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,640 Yeah, it depends on what's going on in life. 2053 01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,520 I feel like sometimes, and we've talked about this this last 2054 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:14,320 month because we've both been taking a couple micro doses, but 2055 01:39:14,440 --> 01:39:17,520 after the first time, 'cause it's always like we've been 2056 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,000 holding off, waiting to take it, waiting to take it. 2057 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,400 Nervous to take it. And then we take it and it's 2058 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,960 like, man, this was amazing. Why were we holding off? 2059 01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,880 Why were we not doing this? We've been holding on to this 2060 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:30,280 weight or this energy or whatever. 2061 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,320 And now it's like you feel so much better, so much lighter 2062 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:34,880 like. Yeah, I don't feel that way with 2063 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,720 cannabis. I don't go, oh, I don't know. 2064 01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,600 I don't think I should do it. But then it's. 2065 01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,160 Like I fucking. Swear like. 2066 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,080 OK. We feel like there should be a 2067 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,360 second microdose following up on that one within a couple days, 2068 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,240 because that first one, it was like, man, there's been so much 2069 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,400 and it's been so long since we've done this, that that first 2070 01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,680 one's just kind of like getting rid of that weight. 2071 01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,600 And I feel like the second one would allow you to be actually 2072 01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,600 more of that present and maybe work through anything that you 2073 01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,360 needed to, right. But yeah, it's. 2074 01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:05,840 I was doing once every three days. 2075 01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:07,840 For three months. That would be good, I'm sure. 2076 01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:09,440 And I didn't notice a difference. 2077 01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,200 Between not using it and doing it that interesting. 2078 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:19,000 Yeah, but I know lots of people that have gotten off of 2079 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,360 antidepressants and anxiety medications. 2080 01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,960 Yeah, which, awesome. So maybe I need to do it again. 2081 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,840 I don't. Know maybe it just was the 2082 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:30,240 mushrooms that you were using. Microdosing LSD, but that's more 2083 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,600 for like inventing the iPhone, you know? 2084 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,240 Yeah, well, it's actually really cool. 2085 01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,560 That was one of my favorite things to do with it was 2086 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,400 microdose. I don't actually really care as 2087 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:45,480 much for the like even a full tab of it that that experience 2088 01:40:45,480 --> 01:40:48,480 is fine. But I prefer mushrooms for that 2089 01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:51,520 one way more than I do. But I like the microdosing of 2090 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,000 LSD. I haven't done it in years and 2091 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,960 years. Oh, it's been over 20 years for 2092 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,680 me. But you know, when I did it, 2093 01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:01,240 like I didn't get a really, it wasn't a a awesome, amazing like 2094 01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:04,520 here's what we're going to do. No talking, no, no prep. 2095 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,400 It was put these in your put these sugar cubes in your mouth. 2096 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:08,960 Oh, but. That wasn't a microdose. 2097 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,240 That was like a heavy dose. Yeah, I got like many tabs of 2098 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,280 LSD. Hits of LSD like it went, I 2099 01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:16,400 went. I would have died. 2100 01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,040 To the moon. I don't like. 2101 01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,920 It was pretty intense, but I mean, I'll tell you, like out of 2102 01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:26,040 all the IT wasn't as intense as psilocybin was for me at first, 2103 01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:30,040 'cause it's more introspective, like for a large dose of LSD 2104 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,120 it's just hallucinations like that's all it was. 2105 01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,760 It was very visual. Oh my God, It was intense, but 2106 01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,880 not like the right I get with psilocybin. 2107 01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,480 It's so much more an emotional. Yeah, and you can tell between 2108 01:41:44,480 --> 01:41:47,320 the synthetic and that one. That's why ketamine was such a a 2109 01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:53,080 very positive experience. I'm I'm super open with my with 2110 01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,400 my kids on everything that I take. 2111 01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:58,320 Yeah, me too. Well, one, it's like if they ask 2112 01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,400 me what am I gonna say? None. 2113 01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:01,840 Your business. Yeah, right. 2114 01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:03,880 This is a special thing. Any candy? 2115 01:42:04,440 --> 01:42:07,840 This, this is a plant that you grind up and I'm like teaching. 2116 01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,720 I'm like, you grind it up right here so it goes smaller and then 2117 01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,400 you can put it in this bowl and then when you breathe through 2118 01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,200 here, you could see the water moving. 2119 01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,240 You know, the bubbles are coming that's filtering it and it's 2120 01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,160 pulling air through. And we know that air needs fire 2121 01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:21,600 needs air. It's like getting down. 2122 01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,680 And then it's like, and then it goes into your lungs and from 2123 01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,320 your lungs to your bloodstream and to your broad stain to my 2124 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:30,480 brain, which helps me calm down like, and that's, I mean, and 2125 01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:32,440 that's the answer. And I think that's the healthy 2126 01:42:32,440 --> 01:42:33,920 answer. You know, maybe I'm a little 2127 01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,840 biased, but I'm like A5 year old, a three-year old asked me 2128 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,120 that and I explained it to him, you know, but on mushrooms as 2129 01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:44,240 well, same thing going through the process and what it does, 2130 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:49,880 because I do it like, it was like going into mainly business 2131 01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:54,080 settings with like 10 business owners and one guide and doing 2132 01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:58,360 mushrooms that way. And it was more intentional in 2133 01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:02,400 the fact that like they make you set intentions and then you 2134 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:06,000 share that. And, but since I stopped doing 2135 01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:10,000 that and just doing it with my family and just hanging out at 2136 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:14,120 night and doing that once a week, 1/2 a gram to maybe a gram 2137 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,480 and a half, it's the best thing. And my kids love it. 2138 01:43:17,480 --> 01:43:20,520 And it's like, and they know because they know that I'm way 2139 01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,720 more like I feel like I'm a good dad and I feel like I'm really 2140 01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,800 present, but it's, it's just different. 2141 01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:31,160 Like it's 1000% different. Especially if you're on like 2142 01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,120 half a gram to a gram and 1/2. Yeah, like you're still there, 2143 01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,920 100. Percent yeah, but it's a very 2144 01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:40,560 different connection like in those moments that's cool 2145 01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,560 though. And it it really is like and you 2146 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:47,120 think about it like if these are truly medicines and that or 2147 01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,720 things that help benefit us. We don't hide our tools we don't 2148 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,080 hide Tylenol. Why would why would we be 2149 01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:58,640 ashamed of a tool that truly is like has massive value and 2150 01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,800 benefit and going, hey, this tool like we're not gonna talk 2151 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,400 about this. Yeah, that's when I was at that 2152 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,360 networking event. And this guy's like, man, you're 2153 01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:08,480 real happy today. I said, oh, I'm on a microdose 2154 01:44:08,480 --> 01:44:09,680 right now. Yeah. 2155 01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:15,440 And he's all what I'm like, yeah, he goes, you came here on 2156 01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,560 on mushrooms. I'm like, I come here on pot 2157 01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,560 like every time you don't say shit about that. 2158 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,280 He's like, oh, well, I mean, yeah. 2159 01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,160 So just let that shit go, dude. Don't worry about it. 2160 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,040 Like what, is somebody gonna show up going that's bad and 2161 01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,200 they're like, go fuck yourself? Yeah, I don't. 2162 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,080 Care like if you think it's bad, I all right. 2163 01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:36,560 I mean, that's got nothing to do with me. 2164 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,520 That's, you know, if you want to feel guilty for me dude, by all 2165 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,280 means, go for it. I'm happy as fuck over here I. 2166 01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:45,080 Feel like I'm a high functioning psychedelic user. 2167 01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,920 I last week I, I think I was probably, I think I did half a 2168 01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:50,760 gram just to see what it was like that. 2169 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,160 And then I took another gram and a half, so. 2170 01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,120 Oh, 2G, yeah. But it was also spaced out like 2171 01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,080 an hour, so it's kind of. It's a little, just extended it. 2172 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,520 And then my kids want pasta, and I go upstairs and I'm like, 2173 01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,280 well, I'm just gonna get my wife to make pasta. 2174 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,600 Yeah, well, I don't want to get up, so I'm telling them to go 2175 01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,400 make way go telling them hey, go get mom. 2176 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,400 And then they bother me so much they won't like OK, finally I 2177 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,680 will go get mom to go make you pasta. 2178 01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:18,000 And then I go up there and she's cleaning and I'm like, do I want 2179 01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,640 her to clean or do I want to make pasta? 2180 01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,800 And I start laughing because I'm on mushrooms and explain the 2181 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,640 whole situation to her. She's like, it's your choice. 2182 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,480 Do you want me to clean or not? You know, just being like, I 2183 01:45:27,480 --> 01:45:28,680 love you. Go back downstairs. 2184 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,680 I'm making the pasta, put it in the smallest little shitty pan 2185 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:33,880 and it's overflowing. And then I don't have sauce. 2186 01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,880 So now I now the second, you know that that the second dose 2187 01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,040 of the grammar house is, is hitting as I'm walking to 2188 01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:44,680 Walmart to go get yes, bro, and yes, I'm crossing the street 2189 01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:49,800 like this, just like laughing. Just I'm like I, I, I can't stop 2190 01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,240 laughing. So like before I like get my 2191 01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,880 composure and I was like, as long as I don't talk to anybody 2192 01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,400 and I go in there, but I go in there so often because I just 2193 01:45:58,400 --> 01:45:59,600 walk there every day with my kids. 2194 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:04,240 I know the workers and fucking Liz, dude, she sees because now 2195 01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:07,920 I don't have my hat on either. And Liz and I and I and I and 2196 01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:09,920 I'm like, I'm keep my head down. I'm not going to talk to nobody. 2197 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:11,960 But when I'm checking out, Liz sees me comes over. 2198 01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,360 She's like, Hey, how'd the transplant go? 2199 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,640 Or the and I'm like, Liz, yeah, really good. 2200 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,600 I gotta go. Next day, though, I went back 2201 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,200 and I told her I was like, I hope I did act too weird 'cause 2202 01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,760 I was on mushrooms. That's that's me and Liz at 2203 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:27,040 Walmart. Dude, that's cool. 2204 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:28,240 We're homies. Great. 2205 01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,840 We're homies super cool, high functioning it. 2206 01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:35,680 Hurt my cheek so. High functioning the SO years 2207 01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:41,360 and years ago I started a business and the IT had been a 2208 01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:43,080 while like going to networking events. 2209 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:47,520 We hadn't had a for sale yet. And I get a call and the IT 2210 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:51,160 rings all of every like I have three business partners, which 2211 01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,840 was a stupid decision at the beginning, but it rang 2212 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:58,800 everyone's phones and I'm on 3 1/2 grams of mushrooms in the 2213 01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:05,000 middle of a trip full like the full on set and no one's picking 2214 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,120 up. So my phone just keeps ringing 2215 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,280 and I was like, oh shit, what if this is a sale? 2216 01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,520 And I pick it up and I answer and I talk to this dude in the 2217 01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,240 middle of my trip. I close our very first sale in 2218 01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,840 the middle of my mushroom trip. And it was like, and then I 2219 01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,240 called them all like right after. 2220 01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,520 I'm like, bro, what the hell? Like I mean, it's cool that I 2221 01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,480 took it. It's probably better that I took 2222 01:47:27,480 --> 01:47:31,640 it but like. Well, yeah, you're closing deals 2223 01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:34,360 on three grams, man. That is, that's some love. 2224 01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,720 It's 'cause you loved him. Yeah, I, I, well, I, I truly was 2225 01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:41,840 like, I listened and I was like, what's going on? 2226 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,520 And he just like opened up and I was like, well, what do you, 2227 01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,200 what do you need? Right. 2228 01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,560 And I, I listened to him like we can do that. 2229 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,600 And your nerves probably were. Zero. 2230 01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:57,760 And so it was like it was crazy. And I just truly like, I heard 2231 01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,000 more than I ever did normally and it was just on the phone. 2232 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,320 I was like. So you heard it first, like all 2233 01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,120 you have to do is do 3 grams of mushrooms. 2234 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:06,520 And then go knock. Any doors? 2235 01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:09,000 Yeah, Go, go. Hey, if you're not going to do 2236 01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,400 it for you, if you're not going to do it for your wife, do it 2237 01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,000 for me. I know that voice you're talking 2238 01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,920 about, right? And just Grant Cardone, right. 2239 01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:20,560 And just over there going. I look it's it's if you can't do 2240 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,840 it for them, come on, do it for me do it for me do it for me. 2241 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:25,720 I love that way. Hey, what? 2242 01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,400 Just do it anyways. The do it anyways playlist. 2243 01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:30,560 Just do it anyways. Yeah, dude, Yeah, My wife 2244 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,360 wouldn't like this, Sir. Sometimes you just kind of do it 2245 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:37,880 anyways. You know you're the tractor like 2246 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:38,760 he. That's funny. 2247 01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:43,760 Dude it is absolute comedy gold. Go listen to. 2248 01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,560 Had a lot of fun doing it. Oh, it was awesome because I 2249 01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,760 held my breath and then I thought, like, life is magical. 2250 01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,320 That's what I thought. I thought I was a magician. 2251 01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,160 I was like, people are buying this shit. 2252 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,880 Like, but when I say buying this shit, buying the cells 2253 01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,720 technique, yeah, like pest control, Yeah, that's also shit. 2254 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,520 Don't get me wrong. Yeah, they're buying, buying 2255 01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,080 bullshits. Yeah, I buy pest control. 2256 01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,400 So I mean, it's not. No, I buy pest control too. 2257 01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,840 Come get my that sugar ants, he told me. 2258 01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:12,960 There's sugar ants in my kitchen. 2259 01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:14,760 Wow. What the fuck? 2260 01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:16,960 You're like bro, no, I just dropped sugar. 2261 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,640 Those aren't ants. No, but I mean it. 2262 01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:23,440 It's yeah, dude, it's, that's actually, it's one of the 2263 01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:25,120 funniest damn things. So if you haven't heard the 2264 01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,320 Closer Survival Guide, like it's hilarious 'cause it, I mean, it 2265 01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,680 does. It did work at one time. 2266 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,520 Now, not so much. I think somebody would go what 2267 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,840 the fuck is wrong with this guy, but it's hilarious. 2268 01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,600 A lot of people do that, but but some people because I. 2269 01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:44,680 Smile when I hear it. You know how like what, what I I 2270 01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:49,680 get back to what drives me. I guess I want to sell people 2271 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,760 because if you buy something you like me and I'm trying to 2272 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,040 fulfill a need for being like and it's a safe, safe self 2273 01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:56,120 worth. That's what I think. 2274 01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,600 Yeah, that's what I think. And that's why I think I love 2275 01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,800 sells and I love closing and I get a high from 'cause I'm just 2276 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:05,000 like, yeah, I'm doing good. I have self worth because I'm 2277 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,440 getting paid. Plus this person agreed with me. 2278 01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:11,400 Boom. And most people are, I think are 2279 01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:15,160 under my same shoes, that there's some lack of self worth. 2280 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:18,200 And because of that, then there comes people pleasing because I 2281 01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,320 need this person to like me, right? 2282 01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:22,760 So I'm gonna just say yes, it's the same thing. 2283 01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,640 I wanna sell you or I just wanna say yes, I wanna hear you out 2284 01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,400 because I need you to like me and I don't want you to feel 2285 01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,920 bad. And then whatever I was going to 2286 01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:33,720 say after that was going to come. 2287 01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:42,240 It's been way too much time on that people anyways. 2288 01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,000 I, well, no. What did you say right before 2289 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,280 that though? It was tying into. 2290 01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,000 I don't remember. OK good, so it's not just me. 2291 01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,080 I feel way better about myself. Good, you're good. 2292 01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,920 It's just enjoyable, Thanks. For raising myself? 2293 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:53,760 No dude, you should. I mean. 2294 01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,120 No dude, there there are no accidents it. 2295 01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,320 Just happens that's why the sales techniques work. 2296 01:50:58,480 --> 01:51:02,720 Because most people are insecure and lack that self worth and 2297 01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,480 self love. So even though I'm a freaking 2298 01:51:05,480 --> 01:51:10,920 stranger on the door, they wanna help me and they want to see 2299 01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:13,720 that they are needed and that they can help me by writing a 2300 01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:16,200 check. And that's why I can get most, I 2301 01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,320 shouldn't say I you can get most people to just agree with you 2302 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:22,000 with those bullshit techniques. You just push them. 2303 01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,120 They don't wanna do it. But you could make people do 2304 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,320 what they don't wanna do if they're insecure. 2305 01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:30,080 That's what I think, yeah. Yeah, no, I mean that's. 2306 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:31,640 Why I'm I've always been an easy self. 2307 01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:34,640 People knock on my door, bite, I used to bite, whatever, and now 2308 01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,440 I don't feel as bad and it's just like, no, if it doesn't 2309 01:51:37,440 --> 01:51:40,240 make sense, let me save your time, go to the next door. 2310 01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:42,600 Right. It's not always a fit, just 2311 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,160 isn't. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to 2312 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,880 do. I'm like, honestly, I'm not 2313 01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:47,320 going to buy this. You're wasting your time. 2314 01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,040 Like, but they might be a good fit. 2315 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:50,840 They just bought this house. They're doing this and they're 2316 01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:52,560 like. Oh yeah, dude, there was the guy 2317 01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,440 with the guy who did pest control. 2318 01:51:54,440 --> 01:51:57,760 He's over there. He's like, yeah, we just got the 2319 01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,000 Browns on there, I said I don't know who the fuck they are. 2320 01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:04,640 And he goes. I would use that technique all 2321 01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:06,160 the time. And people say that I'm like, Oh 2322 01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:07,840 yeah, just never. Yeah, just move on. 2323 01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,360 Like that didn't work. Yeah, it was awesome. 2324 01:52:10,440 --> 01:52:12,720 That off redirect move on his face. 2325 01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,760 Dude, he was like, and I'm just looking at him like, what else 2326 01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,520 you got right? I was just like, I don't 2327 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,280 fucking. Care just roll off that way. 2328 01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:20,560 Oh. Your neighbor did it too. 2329 01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,520 Did he suck your Dick too 'cause I mean, I've heard he does that 2330 01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:26,120 and he's like. Yeah, dude. 2331 01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,720 Why were you asking me these? Things he signed on the dotted 2332 01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:29,760 line. Bro it was sad. 2333 01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,560 Because it works on people, dude. 2334 01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:34,240 People are like, oh the, the, the joke, dude. 2335 01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:36,560 I remit. Like I haven't had this thought 2336 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,400 in 10 years. I remember as a kid growing up, 2337 01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:43,960 somebody knocked on the door and I, I as a kid, they're like, oh, 2338 01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,200 can you get your parents? And usually my mom is like, tell 2339 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,440 them not home like as they can hear, you know, right. 2340 01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:51,160 And this guy said, oh, I just came over from the tippets house 2341 01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:52,800 or this and that. And I was like, oh, this is 2342 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,000 important. Yeah. 2343 01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:57,800 Worked on my young mind and I was like, Oh no, no, no, mom, 2344 01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,480 somebody at the door. Yeah, tell them I'm busy. 2345 01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,600 No, mom, they just came from the tippets. 2346 01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:05,840 They just came from the tippets. Now by 5 bites like oh so 2347 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:09,040 they're going well if it's the tippets I don't get my ass. 2348 01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,360 We had the tippets in my neighborhood too and oh shit. 2349 01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:15,440 He knows. He knows already. 2350 01:53:15,480 --> 01:53:17,040 I don't know. I mean, I might have known some 2351 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,400 tippets, but they weren't important enough to be next 2352 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:20,760 door. Like, you know, we just talked 2353 01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,480 to the tippets. Well, fuck the tippets because 2354 01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:24,880 we don't like them. Like, I mean, nobody says that. 2355 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,640 Like maybe I'm going to do that next time because they know how 2356 01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,440 I am in my neighborhood and be like, oh, you came from the 2357 01:53:29,440 --> 01:53:30,880 gills. Fuck that guy, dude. 2358 01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:33,640 He's full of shit. He ever smells like fish anyway. 2359 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,520 I don't like that guy anyways. You've seen you've met my wife, 2360 01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,360 haven't you? Yeah, at least on FaceTime. 2361 01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:40,320 No, I've met her in person before. 2362 01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:42,200 Have you met her before? I shouldn't. 2363 01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:43,280 Think so. She's. 2364 01:53:43,480 --> 01:53:46,480 She's older than, she's 36 years old, but she's tiny. 2365 01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:50,360 She looks, yeah, she will still do like, because a few people 2366 01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:53,200 when they knock on our door will be like, are your parents home? 2367 01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,080 And so she goes without all the time. 2368 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:57,680 And she's like, oh, they're not home. 2369 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,480 I'm like, you're 36. That's fantastic. 2370 01:54:01,480 --> 01:54:02,680 So awesome. But like, they're just gonna 2371 01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,680 come back. Like if it was me, I, I stayed a 2372 01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,160 neighborhood for a month. I'm gonna get to even all the 2373 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:09,200 people that don't buy it. It's OK. 2374 01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,280 I but I do wanna know every person's name. 2375 01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:14,600 And that's also the difference between pest control that you go 2376 01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:18,400 through a neighborhood in a, in a day versus solar. 2377 01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,800 And you just, you get to know every person because even if 2378 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,560 they already have solar, I'm tying this back into the 2379 01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:24,680 relationships. At the beginning of the 2380 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,240 conversation, it was, oh, why do you have solar? 2381 01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,360 I would knock on I, I can't sell someone if they would have 2382 01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:30,840 solar, but I would knock on the door. 2383 01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,960 How long ago did you get solar? What do you like about it? 2384 01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,080 What do you don't like about it? Because if you're pissed and 2385 01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,000 you're the neighbors and you guys are friends and I knock on 2386 01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,240 your door, you don't want solar because of Jesse's experience. 2387 01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,880 But if I knock on your door and say, and actually, this is how 2388 01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:44,840 it it, it would be used if they did it correctly. 2389 01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,920 I just got over from Jesse's house and I'm sure you've 2390 01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,280 noticed he has solar. Yes, I don't know if he shared 2391 01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,120 this with you, but he's having a bad experience because of XYZ. 2392 01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:58,960 The reason he got solar was he thought it was no money down 2393 01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:04,680 half the cost and instant savings whatever and a fixed 2394 01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:06,520 bill. But it ended up turning out to 2395 01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,760 be this because they didn't tell him XYZ. 2396 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,720 What I'm doing is what Jesse originally wanted to do, you 2397 01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,240 know, but it's like, that's a, that's a story. 2398 01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:20,440 Not not just a I, I came from your neighbors, but like that's 2399 01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:23,600 a true story. And I will use that story for 2400 01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,840 the entire neighborhood if I get a good story, even though they 2401 01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:29,080 don't know where he's at. And I just say over on Fable St. 2402 01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,760 which is one street over, as long as he's with him, nobody 2403 01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:33,480 knows who Jesse is on Fable Street. 2404 01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,760 But the story is true. And if they wanted to verify me, 2405 01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,360 they can. And that's an N. 2406 01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:40,440 That's an N because I've built a relationship. 2407 01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,960 That makes a lot of sense, but that's way more intentional 2408 01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,640 selling than just going outgoing. 2409 01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:49,800 Hey I talked to SO and SO and they just bought our shit too 2410 01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:51,120 so. You know what I want to do 2411 01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:53,680 though with the next door door sales kid And if I especially if 2412 01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,480 I say I'm like the guy who who did the pest control, he did a 2413 01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:57,640 great job. He really did. 2414 01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,080 But the other kid who came over there, like, I wish I would have 2415 01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,600 done something like as I'm getting closer to the door 2416 01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:04,760 going. And I thought, I fucking see 2417 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:06,320 that shit again. I'm going to shoot. 2418 01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,600 Somebody and then open the door going what do you want? 2419 01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:13,200 Just like. You obviously look busy, Sir. 2420 01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,880 No, you got my attention, what the fuck do you want? 2421 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:19,800 And then laugh after going just kidding dude down. 2422 01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,240 I don't want it. Dude, the, the, the, the, the 2423 01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:25,600 like you meet people like that when, when you're, when you're 2424 01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:27,640 not a fucker out with you. Oh yeah, that's awesome. 2425 01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:29,560 But it's fun. At the beginning it wasn't 2426 01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,080 'cause I'm like, oh, this is just again, sell, sell, sell, 2427 01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,080 sell, sell. I was pest control to solar. 2428 01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:40,920 I, I wanted to get to know and, and I, and I'm still not saying 2429 01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:42,520 that I want to get to know you for you. 2430 01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:47,880 I still, it's fully selfish, but I have a purpose to get to know 2431 01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,920 you and how many kids you have and how long you've had solar or 2432 01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:52,960 if you're a renter and why are your landlord has any cons 2433 01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:55,320 because that information is useful. 2434 01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:59,120 So I, I still build a relationship, but I do like, I 2435 01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,480 have to talk to every single person in the neighborhood and 2436 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:05,480 get to know them. So very, very, very different. 2437 01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,480 And it's just, and when you have that mentality and you have a 2438 01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:11,680 guy like that that's joking around, you love it because 2439 01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:13,520 you're like, he just wants to chill. 2440 01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,480 I just wanna chill too. Can I get my guard? 2441 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,560 Can I, can I go get a, can I grab water? 2442 01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:19,880 And the other thing is like pest control. 2443 01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,800 I had to sell multiple a day to stay in the lead, you know, have 2444 01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,200 to throw it on five accounts a day where solar cycle. 2445 01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:28,760 I need a deal or two a week and I'm good, you know, cuz you're 2446 01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:29,880 getting paid. Way more. 2447 01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,520 Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. 2448 01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:36,200 Dude, that's awesome man. Thank you so much man for coming 2449 01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,480 out cuz this has been long overdue. 2450 01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,960 But the cool thing is we're glad we didn't do it then. 2451 01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,000 Yeah, 'cause it's perfect now it's perfect time to do there's 2452 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:45,880 there's no, there's no accidents. 2453 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:47,480 It's right where it's supposed to be. 2454 01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,560 Yeah. So for everyone at home, how do 2455 01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:53,200 they find you? How do they listen to your show? 2456 01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:58,280 Bennettmaxwell.com that's has links to the podcast, which is 2457 01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,200 Deeper than Dough, and it focuses on the mission of 2458 01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:05,200 finding joint fulfillment despite life's dirtiness, and 2459 01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,480 then links to all my social media 'cause I try to post a few 2460 01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:12,040 times a day on this stuff. Business, life, philosophy, 2461 01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:15,080 family. Yes, we'll have a links over 2462 01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:16,720 there all. Those in the show notes. 2463 01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:20,640 Yeah, and if you are close to a Dirty Doe, you'll know it. 2464 01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,480 You gotta go check it out. It's pretty awesome. 2465 01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,480 Go get some dirty ass cookies. Yeah, please do. 2466 01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:30,600 And yeah, leave some comments down there. 2467 01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:33,080 Ask us some of the questions of what we should have asked them. 2468 01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:36,000 You know, like what's his favorite position? 2469 01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:41,760 Or, you know, what does he what does he do when the lights are? 2470 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,320 Or what was the weirdest thing he saw in mushrooms? 2471 01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:47,080 Yeah, or why does he have a dungeon? 2472 01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:48,720 You know, ask him these questions. 2473 01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:52,880 Why don't you have a dungeon? That's you know what. 2474 01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,280 Thanks for joining us. See you next year.