1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,360 I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,480 We're. Cannabis school having cannabis 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,400 infused conversations. With everyday. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,120 People, Cannabis companies. Celebrities. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,280 And your mom. Welcome to the sash. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,040 So today we just want to welcome you guys back and welcome 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,640 Meredith from Face Your Shit, Heal Yourself. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,760 You have been doing like a whole bunch of stuff you've been 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,000 coming into, like art. You've created a podcast, a 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,120 journey to like, help other people. 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:43,000 Tell us a little bit behind what face your shit, Heal Yourself is 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,120 what it is. Yeah. 13 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:50,840 Totally. So it's really the first step in 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,560 all healing is being authentic and facing literally 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,240 acknowledging the problem. It's what I would short phrase 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,960 it as face you should heal yourself is a narcissist worst 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:07,520 nightmare because it's all about facing the music, facing the 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:14,080 truth, facing who you are to really resolve any issue. 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,080 It's all about the relationship between you and you and that's 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,080 what healing really is. You have to get real and start 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,040 cutting the crap and cutting like the coping mechanisms and 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,520 the symptom treating to really acknowledge what is this really 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,680 about, what is the real problem? And the more that we face our 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,960 shit and the deeper levels that we go through that journey and 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,000 other things can assist us with that, the more that we're able 26 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,840 to actually heal. And I searched. 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,560 I mean, listen, I had pain for 17 years. 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,680 Like, no one should have to dig and be in that much pain and 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,880 suffering for 17 years just to find basic, simple truths about 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,960 female hormonal health and about just health in general. 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,680 But through that journey I was able to find experts and 32 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:09,520 practices, modalities, herbs that have helped me. 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,760 And I created the podcast so that I can introduce those to 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,600 people and so that other people don't have to literally die. 35 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,920 Like every month. Come back to the other side and 36 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:24,480 like have this whole exorcist experience on their period and 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,680 like live this double life like I did. 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,160 If I can just help one person set themselves free, it was all 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,120 worth it. But the the podcast is like the 40 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,920 science and the modalities and you know, the products and kind 41 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,960 of things that I worked through as well as like the emotional 42 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,440 stuff too. And then the book, which I have 43 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,480 an accompanying book, is the first year. 44 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,960 It captures the first year of my Every Phase art series, which is 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,240 an art series that's going to go on for 13 years. 46 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:56,720 And it's how I healed myself from endometriosis. 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,560 And that's more of, like living by the phases of the female and 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Freudian rhythm clock. I'm sure sure we'll get into it. 49 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,480 I could nerd out forever about the art side of it, which is 50 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,360 like, it was a response to people's Everydays series, which 51 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,480 he was like, I don't know if anyone knows people. 52 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,920 He's an NFT artist. He sold the world. 53 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Do you know what you're talking about? 54 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:18,720 No. Yeah. 55 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,600 I I remembered that name, yeah. Yeah, so he did this famous 56 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,440 everydays it's 5000 days he sold it. 57 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,600 It's the world's most expensive NFT ever sold. 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,400 It was like $200 million or $170 million. 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,120 And he created a piece of art from every every day from start 60 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,560 to finish for 5000 days. And there's a lot of these 61 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,880 projects that go along and I was like thinking and I was like I'm 62 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,280 so I had just been like healing myself and learning about, you 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,760 know, how women are on the 28 day cycle and men are on this 24 64 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,480 hour clock and kind of reload hormonally. 65 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,720 And our world is kind of built around 9:00 AM, testosterone's 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,960 highest. 5:00, it rolls away. And I mean, we all know the 67 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:03,240 world that we live in based in productivity and nothing wrong 68 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,800 with that. Everyone listen, that's 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,720 biohacking and leveraging that for your life. 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,280 But it's very, very one sided. And so I was like, I'm so 71 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,040 fucking tired of seeing these every days. 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,120 Like every fucking day. You gotta rush, you gotta finish 73 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,440 all this shit. By the end of the day, I'm gonna 74 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,160 make a piece of art. Not every day, but every phase, 75 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:28,080 which there's four phases and not only make art and live the 76 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,440 art, but also educate people and help them biohack and leverage 77 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,160 this energy in their life. So it was definitely a response 78 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,720 to that. And a lot of my art is like 79 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,360 that. It always works better when I'm 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,400 slightly pissed off in general. OK. 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,200 I mean most art comes from a a place of passion, whether it's 82 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,600 anger or fear or love or you know, there's always something 83 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,160 usually based upon emotion that comes from. 84 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,880 Do you find that when you do art, do you utilize plant 85 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,960 medicines in your like when you're actually creating? 86 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,800 Or is it more of like, do you use that anywhere in your 87 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,840 methodology along the way? 1000% absolutely. 88 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:12,240 And that's the cool part about the series is I am living the 89 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,480 phase. So it affects your brain 90 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,960 chemistry. Different phases, different 91 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,440 hormones are sent to your brain and delivered throughout your 92 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,760 body. So if you know this, for 93 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:27,120 instance in the menstrual phase, the period phase people, the 94 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,280 right and left brain hemispheres of your brain are more 95 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:34,800 commutative than any other time. So you're primed for very 96 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,000 intuitive, very like psychic messages. 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,760 And it's like that because it's a shedding time, like what's the 98 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,440 shit that I need to like release and let go of to move forward 99 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,080 into the next cycle where a new follicle is formed and you go 100 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,000 through ovulation, then you go through the audio, then you go 101 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,320 through all the whole thing again. 102 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:57,640 So having that knowledge and then using, you know, things 103 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,880 like cannabis. And for me, we were talking a 104 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,960 little bit earlier about how I really have to metabolize 105 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,440 cannabis. So using CBD, using gummies and 106 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,520 in certain phases in different amounts really assist not only 107 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,880 if you have something like pain, but it's just the healing 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,560 journey in general for you to even know yourself better. 109 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,320 And not only cannabis, but definitely psilocybin mushrooms 110 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,840 been huge. I mean you're ingesting 111 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,400 universal wisdom. I feel like with I mean with 112 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,320 both like you are having, the plant is having a telepathic 113 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,920 experience. Through you. 114 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,840 Yeah. It's how I feel about it. 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Yeah, especially like psilocybin definitely is. 116 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,560 I guess cannabis can be too. You can experience very 117 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,880 psychedelic, you know, experiences or thoughts or even 118 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:57,280 the introspective abilities that come from like psilocybin or I 119 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:00,360 often find within cannabis and I know Jesse does too. 120 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:05,480 Like it's been a huge tool to use to take a step back or like 121 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,760 look at a situation from a different perspective. 122 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,200 Then maybe we've been stuck in that, like these plant medicines 123 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,560 have been incredible tools for just opening up that mindset to 124 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,760 seeing a different perspective. Yeah. 125 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,560 It's it's showing the way to be able to unblock potential within 126 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,600 your mind. Because it's one of the things 127 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,280 that any, you know from mild hallucinogen just like cannabis 128 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,680 all the way to psilocybin, DMT and all the other fun ones, they 129 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,320 are able to help like these neural pathways to connect 130 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,080 better and to actually form stronger memories from it. 131 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,880 Like, you know, I always kind of find it funny when they talk 132 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,920 about like, oh man, you know, smoking. 133 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Pots. Going to ruin your memory, you 134 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,600 know, And maybe in some aspects, but I haven't really felt that. 135 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,800 I felt that it's strengthened my memory, but it's depending on 136 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,520 the actions that I'm taking. Because if you're doing 137 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,000 something with intent, such as with your art, like I'm, I'm a 138 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,480 word guy. I mean, I am in marketing and 139 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,600 anything else that I do in the coaching I do right now, like 140 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,600 it's all about that communication. 141 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 But there's an art to it and I find the sack same thing. 142 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,600 When I'm able to be on one or the other of the plant medicine, 143 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,080 I'm able to unlock these ways of how do I make this more 144 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,920 streamlined for me to help me understand better. 145 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,600 And the takeaways I get are so immense, like your book and the 146 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,360 podcast and everything else. Like, you know, you had said 147 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,600 that earlier, like, gosh, you know, a girl like me, I 148 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,440 shouldn't have gone back to cannabis, 'cause I had some 149 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,960 horrible experiences, some exorcism type of experiences, 150 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,720 bodily fluids, all sorts of things. 151 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,280 People died anyways. It was intense. 152 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,280 And then you came back to it, something about the plant that 153 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,920 actually brought you back. What was that? 154 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,240 Well, I will say that I'm blessed to have a lot of people 155 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:08,640 like you guys in my life that are extremely educated in 156 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:15,120 cannabis usage, in growing, in just knowledge of the plant to 157 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,920 general of hemp oil. You know, my husband has made 158 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,640 meals like incorporated that like during my healing journey 159 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,600 when I was doing vaginal suppositories to help pain. 160 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,280 Like we actually started like making our own and I was like, 161 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,440 why aren't there CBD tampons? And now there's those. 162 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,920 It's so you can really start to get creative. 163 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,800 But I would say what what brought me back is probably that 164 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,720 probably that I think I was just at a point where I was so tired 165 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,680 of taking, running around, taking Lortab, Oxycodone, like 166 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,360 Roxy's like not knowing because that's the only kind of relief 167 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,160 that you would get. And even those wouldn't 168 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,240 sometimes touch the pain. Like I would have to go to the 169 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,360 emergency room, be lying on the floor in a pool of like, you 170 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,920 know, sweat and blood. And I've literally crossed over 171 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,040 to the other side. I've literally crossed over the 172 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,640 other side and come back again from that much pain. 173 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,520 You've had Ndes through. Endo. 174 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Yeah, because the pain, it's wild. 175 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,320 It's a wild condition because it doesn't matter, like the amount 176 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,520 of endometrium that is in someone's, it's not like you can 177 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,800 just physically look and be like, wow, that person's like 178 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,960 uterus or intestines or lungs has like all this endometrium on 179 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,320 it. I bet they have a lot of pain. 180 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,480 Some people, it can be everywhere and they have zero 181 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,920 pain. And then some people like me, 182 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:47,480 you get one thing like 1 little right, embedded in my pelvic 183 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,960 muscle. So for me, like in Western 184 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,440 medicine standards, by their standards, Oh well, it'll always 185 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,440 be there. You'll never be healed unless 186 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,600 you just have a hysterectomy and like take out part of your 187 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,400 pelvis and all this other stuff. So it's not a physical, but if I 188 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,280 have something that's not responding hormonally to 189 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,080 estrogen, which is what causes the pain in general and again 190 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,360 it's a ratio balance of progesterone, estrogen, 191 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,600 testosterone and everyone's is different. 192 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,200 If you don't have that, it's not hormonally responding to that 193 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,120 and somehow the immune system, you're detoxing that estrogen 194 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,280 because that's the thing. It's all about just how you pass 195 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,880 it. And I think getting back to that 196 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,800 conversation of how I got into it, I think the way that my 197 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,000 husband kind of put it was more in like health terms, in more of 198 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,560 like an anti-inflammatory and CBD is where I started to. 199 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,120 You know, I didn't just start things that were psychoactive, 200 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:52,800 but when I did, I was like, when I finally wasn't scared to do 201 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,520 that and I and I was so fed up with what I had been doing, I 202 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,800 kind of felt like, well, what do I really have to lose? 203 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,160 I've already died. Like, like, I already know what 204 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,280 that's like. I could have that experience way 205 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,520 back again. But when you get to certain 206 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,560 levels of pain, the the silver lining is you really cut the 207 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:19,600 crap and you don't sweat the petty things as much and don't 208 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,800 pet the sweaty things. Like, you just get real about, 209 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,440 like, what's really important in life. 210 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Like when you die and you're saying bye to everyone. 211 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Like, it's like, what am I thinking about? 212 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Am I thinking about how much shit I didn't, did or didn't get 213 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,560 done today? No. 214 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,320 Am I thinking about the sweaty shit? 215 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,240 No. I'm thinking about my 216 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,360 connections with other people. I'm thinking about, you know, 217 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,880 the sexual trauma that I experienced and how that 218 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,880 affected it. I'm thinking about, 'cause I 219 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,080 healed myself of an eating disorder as well. 220 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,200 That contributed. There's so many different layers 221 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,920 of understanding, and I think when I first experienced that 222 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,760 first edible experience, it just I was like, OK, I get it. 223 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,800 I get it now. But cool, it sounds like there's 224 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,400 been stages of healing and just like facing your shit each time 225 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,440 and like, you know, there's we've definitely recognized that 226 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,960 and it's different experiences or time. 227 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,960 You're like, oh shit. You know, plant medicine is 228 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,880 definitely introduced because the person I am today is nowhere 229 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,760 near the person I was like 10 years ago. 230 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,560 Yeah, I won't. I won't make fun of them right 231 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:26,320 now because it's too easy at the back. 232 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,880 I know. No, I I will bring up one thing 233 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,040 though. Like when he brought me into 234 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,320 cannabis, he used to have these like Aladdin pants. 235 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Remember those like Puffy I. Still have them. 236 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,960 They're comfy as fuck. I just made fun of them all the 237 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,040 time if they're all right Aladdin take off. 238 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,400 But, but I'll tell you like yeah, it's exactly that was like 239 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,760 well Brandon had said and and to go into what you just said I'm. 240 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,600 I'm just really stuck on that. You know, not realizing a lot a 241 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,240 lot of our listeners may not understand it. 242 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,360 Endometriosis is not just like a inconvenience, if you will. 243 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:05,600 You know it it hurts a lot of women every single day from the 244 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,760 it's really uncomfortable. And I hate this to the point 245 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,800 where death has been experienced as you've just told us, like it 246 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,640 is. I I have a friend, a close 247 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,200 friend of mine, his wife and him. 248 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,520 It is. It kept them from being able to 249 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,800 have their children. It took seven years. 250 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,760 They maxed out their insurance on what they can do for 251 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,240 fertility, for the lifetime. Like, doesn't matter how long 252 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,720 she works for that company. It's it's on there. 253 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,800 Exactly. Yeah, people don't. 254 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,480 And it is technically considered now a disability. 255 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:47,760 But I think what's so even just more evil is that a lot of it is 256 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,160 totally preventable and completely treatable. 257 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,920 And the treatments that are what you'll get from the doctors even 258 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,680 today, You know, part of the reason I had a surgery for 17 259 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,400 years is because the medical gas lighting that occurred of 260 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,320 people, literally doctors highly refer doctors telling me it's 261 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,280 all in my head. Literally, it's all in your 262 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,360 head. It's a psychological issue. 263 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,960 You know, maybe you're just one of those people that has pain 264 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,600 that let it have a baby or it'll go away, which is a total myth 265 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,760 birth. Control, it'll go away. 266 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Well, 'cause it makes them more money, so, you know, it goes 267 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,080 away in their opinion. But that's a whole other 268 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,240 episode. And there's these literally 269 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,640 criminal prescriptions. There's this drug they're still 270 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,080 prescribing today, Lupron that just removed. 271 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,640 They're like, oh, estrogen dominance. 272 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Oh, it's responding hormonal industrium. 273 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,400 That's why there's pain. We'll just remove all estrogen 274 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:45,040 and put women, young girls in a fake menopause, which Lupron is 275 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,160 a drug for transitioning women to become men. 276 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,120 It is what they give. It is a puberty blocker. 277 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,640 This is and this. So basically Western medicine's 278 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,640 response is OK to get rid of your cramps, just become a man. 279 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Your voice may deepen. Hair may, this is literally what 280 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,480 they'll tell you. Hair may grow. 281 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,240 Your voice may deepen and not even. 282 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 It's not that I'm saying there's necessarily anything wrong with 283 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,880 that, but you're just trying to get, you're just trying to get 284 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,760 help, like with your pain, with your cramps, and they're telling 285 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,320 you you like Western medicine's response is, OK, well, we're 286 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,200 gonna have to remove all estrogen from your body, put you 287 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,880 in a fake menopause which will guarantee you have Alzheimer's, 288 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,680 as well as a slew of other diseases, and you know you're 289 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,520 gonna have a beard and basically become a man, maybe start 290 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:31,040 growing a. Piece. 291 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,720 Do they give you a free Dick at least? 292 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,440 Dude, right. That should be the next 293 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,480 question. Does it vibrate like? 294 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,960 These are important questions to ask if this is the side effect 295 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,200 like. It's ridiculous. 296 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,200 And these companies have been criminally sued and charged and 297 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,320 they're still prescribed. It's amazing. 298 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,800 So. They're able to outspend that, 299 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,600 any lawsuit that comes their way, you know, that's how a lot 300 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,960 of these very predatory companies who are only after the 301 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,880 dollar, they don't care what they provide. 302 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,240 You know, you've got credit companies, you've got big 303 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,720 pharma. Everybody's trying to be able to 304 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,079 make a buck as quickly as they can, and it doesn't surprise me. 305 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,040 But, you know, when you're talking about a lot of these 306 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,640 things that your body hormonally has gone through, it sounds like 307 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,920 you you've done a lot of research on your own. 308 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,120 Have you worked with like, functional medicine doctors or 309 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,200 nurse practitioners? Yes. 310 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,320 So it took me a while to even find like, no one even know. 311 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,280 I didn't even know what a pelvic floor physical therapist was 312 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,920 until I started. I first did a lot of the heavy 313 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,800 lifting. I started the heavy lifting by 314 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,480 educating myself nutritionally on how hormones work and I read 315 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,640 couple books, Woman Coded in the Flow. 316 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,400 They should be required reading for all girls, all people, 317 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,960 because it's literally just the basic principles of like the 318 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:03,520 phases as I just described, and how the hormonal cycle functions 319 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,160 and what endometriosis is, how it's formed and how it's 320 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,400 developed. PCOS, fibroids, it's all 321 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,320 connected and it's all a result of the imbalance of any of those 322 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,040 three of progesterone, estrogen, testosterone. 323 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Everyone's balance is different. So through that I did three 324 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,960 things I did facing your shit, healing yourself. 325 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,040 A large part of that was facing my sexual abuse and trauma. 326 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:30,320 So I did a because endometriosis. 327 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,640 A lot of people don't realize that it's also extreme pain with 328 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,800 sex. And a lot of it's not talked 329 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,120 about because it's very taboo. Because people, anything going 330 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:46,360 on with your genitalia is like, it really fucks with you because 331 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,440 it's part of it's like, no, we live in this very taboo world. 332 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,840 Even with periods and stuff, it's like, holy shit, we all 333 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,160 came from a period. If you didn't, if a woman didn't 334 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,920 have a period, we wouldn't be here. 335 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,320 So I'm not sure. I'm not sure why it's that 336 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,800 taboo, but. That's so much stuff is taboo. 337 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,760 It's, you know, we don't talk about that or it's not 338 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,320 comfortable. I'm just, yeah, it's it's 339 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,440 ridiculous. So facing that was huge and I 340 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,720 will definitely say that I was around the time that I started 341 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,520 really using edibles more regularly and suppositories 342 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,040 helped tremendously with. So I did that and I did pelvic 343 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,760 floor physical therapy, tremendous because not only is 344 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,400 it hormonal, but also the physical actual like muscles 345 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,520 there because of your nervous system dysregulation and the 346 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,280 trauma you've experienced, your body holds all that and 347 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,880 different. So of course it probably would 348 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,160 help for me and my pelvic floor and for a lot of people, but 349 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,200 they're unaware of how those are all muscles down there. 350 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:58,000 And it's very empowering when you learn to loosen, strengthen, 351 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,360 really control. Those muscles and really become 352 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:05,320 in alignment with your own body and connected to all of that. 353 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Suppositories help greatly, yeah. 354 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,480 Oh. My gosh, you know, I I'm, you 355 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,000 know what you're talking about. I work with, I consult with a a 356 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,120 functional medicine clinic right now with all of their providers. 357 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,000 And so when you're talking about that, like I hear, I I hear a 358 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,800 lot of these stories, these same stories and a lot of how Western 359 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,080 medicine has kind of turned their back on a lot of this have 360 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,560 been just like what you said saying, hey, you know what, you 361 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,440 don't like the pain of being a woman. 362 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,800 Well, man up, you know, take this, you know, and don't worry 363 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,320 about it. There's, you know, manscape and 364 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,760 you can use that now, right? You just trim up everything like 365 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,440 it doesn't. That's the answer is to just 366 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,360 take it away instead of like, how do we strengthen and heal 367 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:53,280 and talking about this, these suppositories and and 368 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,600 understanding that, you know, CBD can actually really help 369 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,000 with that inflammation. And a lot of people have this 370 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,200 kind of sitting on the fence going, you know, and I'm sure 371 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,640 you went through that period, but what was that moment like? 372 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,320 It Was it the edible that you had and you're just like, I get 373 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,800 it now? Or was it just a series of 374 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,880 events? And then figuring out the dose, 375 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,240 'cause you said you can't smoke at all, 'cause it'll just put 376 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,280 you on your ass and. Yeah, yeah. 377 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,520 So what was the moment like when I was like, OK, I get like, I'm 378 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:31,200 now cool with cannabis. I would, I would say so I did 379 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,920 CBD first, which I was totally cool with. 380 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,040 And I think that's more like long term use, like 381 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,920 sustainability. And like, it's not like, OK, I'm 382 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,680 taking CBD and I'm just going to, I mean some people, sure. 383 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,280 But for me, like I had, I and I also saw a functional medicine 384 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,200 Doctor Who I still see to this day. 385 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,480 Beautiful, beautiful man. Love him. 386 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,120 He's been on the pod, just actually. 387 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:59,960 And yeah, so I would say, so CBDCBD. 388 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:03,080 Yes, But I didn't really start getting it. 389 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,800 I think the suppositories is when I was like, this is 390 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,240 actually really cool, 'cause then it's like right in your 391 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,000 bloodstream. And I was starting to become 392 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:19,600 more OK with my body in general to just like use a Suppository 393 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:26,000 and then edibles where it was like, OK, so it was definitely 394 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,480 steps. And that's healing. 395 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,440 Healing's a journey, you know. So with like the suppositories, 396 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,440 did you find that it was mostly effective with like cramps and 397 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,920 direct like in that area effective or is that still 398 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,200 something you felt throughout your entire body? 399 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:49,000 So back then, and it's been a while since I've used this 400 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,760 Suppository because I've done so much work where it's not really. 401 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,480 I think now it. Would be. 402 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,120 It'd be more recreational now, like, hey, let's have some fun, 403 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,760 but like, you know what I mean? It's more like actually 404 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,040 intimate, like Foria and stuff, which by the way, Foria, I used 405 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,680 their relief suppositories. They're amazing, but. 406 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,960 I've been curious on that. My girlfriend has PMDD and my 407 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,720 sister had probably very similar, but she just had a 408 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,280 hysterectomy last year and so. But that's another thing I feel 409 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,360 like for a lot of women is if they know they're not wanting to 410 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:31,720 have kids or they're OK having a hysterectomy, there is very 411 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,680 often that their doctor still won't allow. 412 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,080 They're like, no, we Nope, there's no need for you to get 413 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,760 it. And they will fight tooth and 414 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,160 nail not to allow the woman to still get that hysterectomy. 415 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Yeah, yeah, it's wild. And it's because it's what's 416 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,520 best for them, not what's best for the patient. 417 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,880 It's what's best for their paycheck, or their pocketbook, 418 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,240 or whatever. Organization, yeah. 419 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,440 What brings in the most money to the organization? 420 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,600 Is it someone who isn't going to be returning customer because 421 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,480 while they're not having more kids and that's bringing in more 422 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,640 other things? Or is it someone who has a one 423 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480 time fix and then well, they're not coming back for these types 424 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,320 of things? It's a preventative care. 425 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,360 That's. Totally. 426 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,400 And listen, you get hit by a bus. 427 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,840 Hell yeah, you better make sure you have a western medicine 428 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,400 doctor like to put your ass back together. 429 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:25,040 But chronic disease everyday like things like this where 430 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,120 you're in pain every month. Like hormonally this is like a 431 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:32,520 chronic disease. The answers aren't found in 432 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,680 catastrophic treatments because catastrophic treatments only 433 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,760 treat the catastrophe. They're they're meant for 434 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,480 putting yourself back together when there is no other way. 435 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600 The body knows how to heal itself. 436 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,280 You just have. We've been and this is a multi 437 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,520 layered problem from our food, from our water, from you know, 438 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,600 the air we breathe. Like there's toxins everywhere 439 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,960 from the beauty products. Holy shit, That's like most of 440 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:04,240 your cancers are found in your cosmetic aisle like legit. 441 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,000 So it's and that plays a huge role. 442 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,520 Febreze literally causes endometriosis. 443 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,200 Like, I'm not even going to get into some of the toxins and 444 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,920 stuff in in those. It's like it's everywhere. 445 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,320 It's little bits from everywhere. 446 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,840 So there's a lot of levels to talk about it on. 447 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,800 That makes sense. And actually on our last episode 448 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,800 that we had for the sesh, we kind of goes into that with 449 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,120 carbon like the carbon fertilizers because we actually 450 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:35,880 talk about like the perfect ratios. 451 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,600 And if you're the plants are having to dilute or give energy 452 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,440 to fighting off bugs or doing these other things, they don't 453 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,120 have all the energy they need to grow to this perfect, you know, 454 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:50,600 best version of that. But if they have all this Bank 455 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,000 of energy from this fertilizer that is crafted perfectly for 456 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,640 that, well then they're not drawing on their own energy 457 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,160 bank. They're drawing on this existing 458 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,120 energy Bank of excessive energy, allowing the plant to do these 459 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,760 things that it couldn't normally do because it's like, well, I 460 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,240 have to fight this and I have to do this and I have to do this. 461 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,520 So it's the same with our bodies. 462 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,680 We like, what is the stuff we're putting in it? 463 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,240 What are you feeding it? What are you watering it with? 464 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,200 Like what activities in motion? Like, what are you doing to your 465 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,280 body to actually help it try and heal itself or get back to 466 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,320 homeostasis versus sitting in the stress and the depression 467 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,040 and feeding ourselves horrible shit and consuming horrible shit 468 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000 and going, hey, I hope this makes me feel better. 469 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Like, hey, I hope it does too. Good luck with that like. 470 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:43,240 Totally. Yeah I I and and so going 471 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,600 through this whole process and getting relief physical relief 472 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,360 you know working with the functional medicine doctor 473 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,280 learning how to be able to what in a in a sense and I'll 474 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,800 summarize this and hopefully not the most crude way but really 475 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,640 rebuilding your pelvic wall like controlling it understanding 476 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,320 like you every part of our body is subconscious. 477 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,040 You know it's it's some of the things that I, I actually, when 478 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,680 I when I coach people and teach people about their subconscious 479 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,560 and how it helps them to achieve things, Your subconscious runs 480 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,320 all the time. Like if we break it down, like 481 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,160 from how we're breathing right now, our heart pumping, our 482 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:27,400 lungs doing everything, our cells constantly moving, we 483 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,120 don't we're we're our our consciousness is just the 484 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:37,000 passenger for the ride. And so when you're able to tap 485 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,280 into this like you're physically you've been able to get there. 486 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,120 What I'm curious about is you get there and then all of a 487 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,960 sudden these emotional things to face your shit come up, right? 488 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,480 Because the body's really good at the subconscious, is really 489 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,040 good going, OK, pain is taken care of, you know, physically 490 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,240 she's OK. I think you should deal with 491 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,640 this shit right now. And they give you that, all of 492 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,840 that. You said you had to face a lot 493 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:09,040 of the sexual, sexual abuse that came towards you and what was 494 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040 that like when you started facing it and was did plant 495 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,680 medicine in any way kind of help with that coping of that? 496 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:22,240 1000% Let me just go out there to the quantum real quick, like 497 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,840 'cause you touched on it a little bit. 498 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,320 All time is happening at the same time. 499 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,760 So with that understanding, it is not linear. 500 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,440 We are living in this experience as if it is linear, but it 501 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,120 actually isn't. It's all happening at the same 502 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,360 time and we are always in three places at once. 503 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,840 Mind, body, spirit, right? The Matrix is a control system 504 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,680 for your mind, but you're in all three places, all at one time, 505 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,640 all the time, and you're infinite. 506 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:55,680 I actually, it was actually not too long ago that I was, I had 507 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,440 an Edible. And I was thinking about this 508 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,200 and I was thinking about the exact question I was like, how 509 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,280 did I really? Because I felt like I was going 510 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,720 to die at 18. I didn't expect to make it. 511 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,320 I'm 35 now. I would never, ever, ever ever 512 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,480 have thought ever, ever a million Evers that I would be 513 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640 here sitting with you talking about healing myself. 514 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,880 No, that's the cool thing about the truth It doesn't have, you 515 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,920 don't have to believe in it for it to exist and still work. 516 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,760 So I did not believe at all. And I was thinking, how did I 517 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,280 keep going all that time? Because it is a very toxic home 518 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,240 life, all these things. And I was thinking, because I 519 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,720 heard, you know, these voices, even back then, we all had that 520 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,320 relationship inside ourselves where it's just like, listen, 521 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,520 it's all going to be OK, just draw, just draw. 522 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,560 And that's I started healing myself with art. 523 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,600 And that's how I got basically kept alive, got a scholarship on 524 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,440 a wing and a prayer to an art college and went from there. 525 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,120 Basically, art saved my life. But I was thinking, how where 526 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 did that come from? And I really literally on the 527 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,480 edible and was like it's you with you. 528 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,640 I actually believe that it was actually me now talking to me 529 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,280 back then. Because all time is happening at 530 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,080 the same time and having the, you see what I'm saying, having 531 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,640 the connections and the relationship that I have with my 532 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,320 inner child, which is your higher self, but in child form. 533 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,920 And having the relationship that I have with all the parts of me 534 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,600 and all my emotions and that level of self acceptance, that 535 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,160 level of integration, when there isn't any kind of part that you 536 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,360 deny or push away or diminish, when you're cool with your 537 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,400 shadow and you're cool with the dark, you're unstoppable. 538 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,160 You can walk through time. And I feel like on a quantum 539 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,920 level, that's actually partially what it was. 540 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,240 I'm sure like my higher self and there's whole other spiritual 541 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,840 conversation behind that helped me. 542 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,600 But I actually a large part of what I feel like the plant was 543 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,440 telling me, which they always tell me is it was actually you. 544 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,400 Like it's you, it was you the whole time, It's your problems 545 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,080 were because of you and your solutions were actually because 546 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,160 of you. It's all about the relationship 547 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,400 between you and you. And cannabis for sure helped me. 548 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,520 So with the sexual abuse, that part, being able to face it, 549 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:31,320 because at least for me, the connection, the body high, so to 550 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,280 speak, that I get constantly, 'cause I guess I'm a 551 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,760 lightweight, I'm not sure. But everyone's experience is 552 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,840 different, helped me sort out where energy was going from 553 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,320 different emotional responses, and especially with sex and 554 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,400 intimacy and having issues with that and working through that. 555 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,240 And I have the like, God bless my husband because he is 556 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,480 literally my rock. And I mean we're each other's 557 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,960 rock. We are totally A-Team. 558 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,560 But to have someone also that had that understanding, and he's 559 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,400 a Reiki master, he's not new to any of this, like kind of 560 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,240 quantum conversation. It took, I think, our love for 561 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,120 each other and our partnership to in combination with things 562 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,760 like cannabis and having the willingness to look that really 563 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,880 pushed that over the edge. It's absolutely possible. 564 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,680 Yeah. If you have that safe space with 565 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,200 your partner, that's probably incredibly huge. 566 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,000 Well, no, no. And going right off what you 567 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,760 just said, Brandon, is something I was actually explaining to my 568 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,800 son right when I was driving to get to this, to this majorly 569 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,440 important call is that when you're able to subconsciously 570 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,920 connect with other people. Like, I was talking to him about 571 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,200 how to be able to match your breathing to the other person 572 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,280 and how you could actually use this to manipulate other people. 573 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,040 But you could match their breathing and then move their 574 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,720 breathing into your breathing pattern. 575 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,720 And there's this subconscious connection where you feel like 576 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,720 I've known you beyond this life. And and what you said there, 577 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,040 because and and I'm so glad that I'm actually very high right 578 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,960 now, I smoked this and then I was drinking this infused drink 579 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,320 and I was like a little bit into our conversation and I was like, 580 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,000 oh, shit, did I take too much right now? 581 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,440 And I'm thinking I got to go get some leverages. 582 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,080 I'm like, no, we got to hear this and I want to stop the 583 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,960 flow. But I'm telling you, like it 584 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,640 really just it sunk up right there and then when you talked 585 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,720 about the time is continuous. Meaning it is not forward or 586 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800 backwards or now it is at all times. 587 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,840 And when you talked about like how it was you, it was yourself 588 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,480 that actually was able to go. It's all you. 589 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,320 You're the solution. You're the problem and you're 590 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,760 the future. You're not your past because it 591 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,840 doesn't exist, because once it's gone, it's gone because it's 592 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,320 continuing. And you can only go back and 593 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,120 read from it going what mistakes were made, How can I avoid them? 594 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,400 Can I help other people do the same? 595 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,800 And that's how we progress. It's like what we were talking 596 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,560 about with the other episode of talking about what this soil 597 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719 enhancing company, that's just amazing and what it could do for 598 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,159 cannabis. But it's the same thing for us. 599 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,840 Like you have this magical ability to connect with yourself 600 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:35,560 and how cannabis becomes this amazing part of that process and 601 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,000 it it just is able to help you align and slow down and so you 602 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,480 can speak. It's like being a time traveler 603 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,400 in real time. It's like an event horizon. 604 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,760 If you understand that concept of traveling through space and 605 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,040 time. If you took 1.1 point and you 606 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,120 folded space-time together and you went through a portal, you 607 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,080 would appear at this side. We could be millions of light 608 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,560 years away. But by being able to leverage 609 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,000 things such as plant medicines, you're able to speak to your 610 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,200 future self, to your current self. 611 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,400 Don't do that. Hey, come this way. 612 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,200 You feel that way like you talk about that voice right in a non 613 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,720 schizophrenic way because I mean unfortunately they have to deal 614 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,920 with that. But for us, I truly feel that 615 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,960 way like my inner voice is louder. 616 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:26,360 I am more here and and listening to that. 617 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,960 No wonder why going through the process that you were able to, 618 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,320 you found this inner strength physically and then emotionally 619 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,640 on top of it, to be able to go through that. 620 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,920 And for your husband, who truly just is, he's like, I'm here for 621 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,360 the connection. You know, sex is a bonus. 622 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,760 It's awesome, right? Yeah. 623 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,640 But totally. To have that connection now, 624 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,400 it's just so incredible. Like it. 625 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120 Like I said, you know your your breathing syncs up. 626 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,480 Your heart rates sync up. You know the the The thing is 627 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,720 it's not just for women anymore, right? 628 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,560 You know your periods don't just sync up. 629 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160 You know like you guys are all Bluetooth, right? 630 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,400 It's just, but it's you sync up with that person because you've 631 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,200 finally been able to sync with yourself. 632 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,720 And that's when you're able to face your shit, right? 633 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,280 Because now you're just like you'd let go of this ego, 634 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,000 because we create egos for ourselves in every situation. 635 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,280 But when you face your shit, that's when the real you starts 636 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,920 to come out. And knowing that it evolved, 637 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,800 you're not going to be the same person tomorrow as you were 638 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,280 today. So I don't know, maybe it's 639 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,720 maybe it's the space behind me, 'cause that's why I put that 640 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,000 here, 'cause I started feeling high and I'm like, I put that 641 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:43,360 there, but yeah, right. But no, I I just, I made so much 642 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,800 sense what you just said. It is so eloquent the way you 643 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,400 put it and in the sense that you know you are everything and if 644 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,920 you you can slow everything down and talk to yourself and figure 645 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,840 your shit out. Feeling that broken little kid 646 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,000 inside all of us. Totally. 647 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,280 And that's why I feel like they don't want people using 648 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,520 cannabis. Because when you realize, and 649 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,600 that's one thing that I gained a greater sense of understanding 650 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:19,440 by using edibles and going this journey like with cannabis as 651 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,720 like a tool for that as well as other things, but definitely 652 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:26,840 cannabis for sure. Because you're not controllable 653 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,640 when you realize you are everything. 654 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,560 When you realize you are source and you are one with every 655 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,160 living thing on this planet, like we literally are each other 656 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,360 as different expressions and fragments of source. 657 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,560 So and that gets into a different spiritual 658 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,680 conversation. But it's just the truth. 659 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,360 And that when they took that away from science and a lot of 660 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:55,080 the healing modalities, it cost, it cost a lot of things like it. 661 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,360 It takes away some of the potency and some of the 662 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000 understanding, a lot of the understanding of like why things 663 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,200 are happening in our body. Because like you said, it's not 664 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,040 just, you know, you ingested some toxins, there's toxic 665 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,400 energy, there's toxic people, there's toxic beliefs and things 666 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,000 that you formed from this life. And that's really, really what 667 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,600 causes disease, not just, you know, the heavy metals and 668 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,680 stuff. Yeah, I remember reading this 669 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,680 book on on the history of cannabis and development of like 670 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:30,320 oils and all that like super strong, you know, THC oils that 671 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,440 they were consuming like ungodly amounts on wall one go, 672 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,720 hallucinating. But the cool part is when they 673 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:40,480 were talking about during like Napoleon's reign and when he was 674 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,080 going through it all, even into Africa, down into Egypt and the 675 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,280 Egyptians, he didn't like the Egyptian soldiers talking to his 676 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,880 soldiers because they would smoke together and his soldiers 677 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,800 would say, I'm not doing that, I don't want to do that. 678 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,920 And it's like, it actually like unlocks a lot of control that 679 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:03,520 maybe others have on you or society or your whatever. 680 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,080 You've fed your subconscious for you to be who you are right now. 681 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,440 Nobody wants to be in a place of despair. 682 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,080 But you're exactly right. Why would they want you to be 683 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,520 able to control things such as your body and being able to feel 684 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,840 like? You or hear it yourself, if 685 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,720 you're not going to the doctor, getting prescriptions for all of 686 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:25,360 these things, all these ailments, all of these, you 687 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,760 know, symptoms that they're treating. 688 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,840 Western medicine is great at symptomatic treating, They're 689 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,560 great at, they're great at like surgeries. 690 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,560 We are awesome for surgeries in certain aspects. 691 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,160 There's also FDA regulated shit that is just ridiculous that 692 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,640 makes other countries way better for surgeries in certain 693 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,920 aspects. It's just business. 694 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,840 So yeah, but at the end of the day, like if you truly do 695 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,760 address that and you can look at yourself, heal yourself, you're 696 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,960 not doing symptomatic trading, you're not doing any of that. 697 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,520 You said you're addressing that real bottom issue like. 698 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,360 What is causing this? What is the root of these issues 699 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,600 that's causing? Because most of those doctors 700 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,120 aren't addressing the root cause. 701 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,840 It's. Let's throw some pills at some 702 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,200 symptoms and there you go. Yeah, but I mean even even the 703 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,720 doctors are, I mean a lot of them are unknown to a lot of 704 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,920 these things where you have like, you know, the functional 705 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,680 medicine doctors I work with, like they they had to go through 706 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,640 their own journey to realize that. 707 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,240 I mean, even one of these guys, like, it wasn't even Western 708 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,920 medicine that had the answer. It was just, it wasn't the right 709 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,680 answer. This guy got carpal tunnel so 710 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,760 bad that they were like, like, claws. 711 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,600 And he was going to get carpal tunnel surgery with, you know, 712 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160 that they just had a tendon. They're not doing anything. 713 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,520 They're just like, more like, what happened to you, right? 714 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,240 It's like, oh, we'll just take it out, figure it out. 715 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:56,640 They removed eggs and eggs and dairy from his diet and it fixed 716 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,720 it. Like just he's like that fixed 717 00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:00,800 it. It changed his life. 718 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,480 He became a naturopath Dr. And it's they just don't know enough 719 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,280 because it's exactly what we've talked about like the profit is 720 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,960 all that matters for him. So not only keep your patients 721 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,760 dumb, but keep your doctors just as dumb and saying, look the 722 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,280 only way you're going to come up with the solution is if we tell 723 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,720 you that makes money So and they don't know. 724 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:26,280 They just think that, hey, I'm prescribing this because this is 725 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,200 going to help. They're only taught what they're 726 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,480 taught, and what they're taught is right, Yes. 727 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,200 Yeah. I mean, and you have, yeah, you 728 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,160 have pharma funding all the schools, so you have Rockefeller 729 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,960 medicine. It's all. 730 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,520 So it's like they're not even taught nutrition. 731 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,080 It's only like one class. I think they're required 732 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,000 nutrition like it's like. They're still using the old 733 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,480 broken model, right? Just get yourself full loads of 734 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,440 sugar and carbs and you're gonna be great, right? 735 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,440 It it's, it's this constant bullshit that's fed to us, 736 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,680 right? And we do so happily. 737 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,600 But the thing that's really strange, right? 738 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,080 If you start going into, and this is a lot like what what we 739 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,520 deal with right now with our mental health, our physical 740 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,280 health, when you're able to introduce natural medicines, 741 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,760 plant medicines such as cannabis, psilocybin and so on 742 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,920 and so forth, you're able to make this amazing connection 743 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,840 with yourself and you start finding yourself being able to 744 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,960 do exactly what you've done. Meredith is heel. 745 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,000 And and that's a great transition going into your art. 746 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:33,240 Because I know for me, music and cannabis will get me into a 747 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:38,080 state of flow on demand and where other people will spend 748 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,160 hours just just ruminating over ideas and then it finally hits 749 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,720 them and then they can go for them. 750 00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,480 And you better not stop them. But your art. 751 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,040 Tell us about your art. What What style of art do you 752 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,200 consider yourself if you do it all? 753 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:58,440 And from there, like, what's the connection to the pieces even, 754 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,960 and I'm, I'm assuming that you sell some of your pieces or give 755 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,760 pieces away, but how does that feel, to give a part of yourself 756 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040 every single time? Is it the positive? 757 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,280 Where I would like that's part of me that I'm giving to 758 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,400 somebody else. That's an act of love. 759 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,720 Or is it like really hard and it hurts still to to some degree? 760 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:25,000 So I create as my sacred practice and specifically 761 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,200 speaking about the Every Phase series, which is how I healed 762 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,400 myself from endometriosis and living those phases I'm living 763 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,760 the art. So I'm looking at it more from 764 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,760 it's for me in my own healing and my own sacred practice, and 765 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,840 I'm sharing that authentically. So it's more about just me 766 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,160 telling the truth and me showing up authentically and sharing 767 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:55,000 that with other people instead of, you know, trying from the 768 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,840 outside in. It's more of a very like 769 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,640 holistic way that I do it. And yeah, they absolutely are 770 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,760 for sale. And what's really interesting is 771 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,880 that most of the pieces that I've sold have actually been not 772 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,440 women buyers, but actually men. And it's like this, this series 773 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,120 about like periods, but it's way about way more than just 774 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,320 periods. It's about truth, freedom, many 775 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,920 of the things we talked about today, because those are what a 776 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,280 lot of the phases are about, and the phases in our body mirror. 777 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,880 What's the universe? The universal phases, like I 778 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,920 like to call Mercury retrograde, for instance, like the period of 779 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,520 the universe, of our Galaxy, for instance, because you're 780 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,520 supposed to go in and start anything new. 781 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,640 There's seasons that the Earth goes through. 782 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,280 Like everything is just different levels of looking at 783 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,880 something and zooming out, and it's all mirrored within our 784 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,360 bodies. So when I'm making the art, I'm 785 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,920 definitely connected to that and to the message. 786 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,480 And it's really about getting that out there and just sharing 787 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,200 with other people so they can a know that they're not alone. 788 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,640 And then, you know, like these men that have bought pieces from 789 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,960 the series, they relate on a universal level to how to deal 790 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,200 with pain, mainly a lot of it, a lot of the attraction there. 791 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,400 Because I've asked them like, what is why did you guys buy 792 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,480 this? Like, you know, like one of the 793 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,840 manliest men I know, like bought this piece like behind me where 794 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,840 it's like you can't see the whole thing. 795 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,480 But I'm like coming out of, like, there's this is a bodice 796 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,480 and it's me coming out of a womb. 797 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,480 So it's like, you coming full circle to your own womb space, 798 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,000 like giving birth to yourself, right, In a way. 799 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,640 And there's many different ways you can take that. 800 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,640 And there was a little haiku I wrote with it because it's 801 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,480 called Over the Rainbow. And I said Over the rainbow. 802 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,760 I searched for the answers and I found a mirror and for instance 803 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,000 he related to that because he kind of woke himself up and 804 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,520 healed himself in a way out of a coma after an aneurysm. 805 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,560 And so I think the universal message that why it speaks to, 806 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,920 it's not just like periods in women is being in that much pain 807 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:11,320 or feeling alone and then finding the whole universe in 808 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,640 spite of in inside of that pain. And that journey going through 809 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,280 that and going through the kind of dark night of the soul is 810 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,560 actually like where all the power is like going through the 811 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,960 storm, not going around it, but actually facing it is where all 812 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,680 of your unrecognized power is like your pain is actually just 813 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,120 your unowned power. In a way. 814 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,440 It is your it is unintegrated, it is unrecognized. 815 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,000 It is unrealized. That's what all the shadow is. 816 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,840 It's not like this dark scary thing that we need to be afraid 817 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,360 of because nothing is bigger than you, because you are 818 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,160 everything, your source. So a lot of part, large part of 819 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,600 the series speaks to that. And so I thought it was 820 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,440 interesting. A lot of the buyers have been 821 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,280 men, but it's all mixed media pieces. 822 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,560 I'm a photographer, so I do commercial work, of course, but 823 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,600 I mix with painting. I do a lot of these digitally 824 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,000 just to keep the cost down. A and because I'd have like a 825 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,680 million pieces in my house. But then I also 'cause it's like 826 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,800 every phase, because people like, imagine people like if he 827 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,400 did like physical, like 5000 pieces, right? 828 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,520 But I started if someone wanted, dude, I know. 829 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,040 But I thought, what if someone wants to buy like the whole 830 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,240 collection? And so I started doing these 831 00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:33,080 like little acrylic block pieces that are so fucking cool. 832 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:36,600 They're literally like two by two and then like you're gonna 833 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,720 have a QR code on the back. And a lot of them are augmented 834 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:42,840 reality interactive too. So like my book face, you should 835 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600 heal yourself is actually. Yeah. 836 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,400 So the art will actually start moving. 837 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,520 You download an app. That's dope. 838 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,880 Yeah. So it's a different levels to 839 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,560 experience things on. So I'm always looking for ways 840 00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:00,440 to make fine art, which has been so elite, like the way that it's 841 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,200 been marketed. It's like it's this high level 842 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,200 thing that you have to earn your way up to, to make it easier for 843 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,240 people to like, have relationships with artists and 844 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:10,600 actually buy art and relate on a personal, individual level. 845 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,640 Which is part a big part of the reason why I put this series out 846 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,840 there. I had never explored it before, 847 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,400 but I felt like it was really important. 848 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,760 And I feel like not only does it help other people on emotional 849 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,440 level, but it also helps people realize that I'm a real person 850 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,920 that they can work with and buying art. 851 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,160 You don't have to just go to fucking Pottery Barn or IKEA. 852 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,880 You can actually go to like work with a a real artist and have it 853 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,000 not be that difficult and not be that like elite so. 854 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,080 I think those are my favorite pieces, honestly, are the ones 855 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,080 that I've gone to a place like. Honestly, it's even like farmers 856 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,520 markets and places that I go and I see an actual artist and I 857 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,840 talk with the artist. I've even had ones that I've had 858 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,960 them make me a piece when I'm there because it's just like, 859 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,160 that's really what it is. It's the connection with the 860 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,800 artist, with the art. Like everyone's style is so 861 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,680 unique because it speaks to whatever emotion it is. 862 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,280 They're expressing. You know, whatever it is and 863 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,480 everything, there's always the viewers interpretation as well 864 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,600 as the artist interpretation of it behind it. 865 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,400 And so I love going and like you said, how many men have gone and 866 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,160 purchased your pieces because to them maybe the meaning and what 867 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,720 it speaks to them on a different level is is way different than 868 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:38,160 what your intent behind it was. But it's it's beautiful because 869 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,360 I love that art can speak. It's like music, It speaks to 870 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:47,400 everyone so incredibly differently, but like on like. 871 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,240 A soul level. Honestly, just hearing how you 872 00:49:51,240 --> 00:50:00,160 explain that, I've never had the that perspective of what the 873 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,920 menstrual cycle actually means. Like in a in a really just like 874 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,160 bro way. You just flip my mind on on 875 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:13,640 periods like now I think of it differently. 876 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,200 Like I now I understand why they're buying because it's it's 877 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,200 not only the pain of it, but realizing the sacrifice that is 878 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,520 your life. It's not like when you talked 879 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,400 about you have to go to the storm, like you have to go to 880 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,960 that pain. It wasn't something that could 881 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,040 be avoided, you know. And and men have their own pains 882 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,400 and journeys that they go through and they're both sacred 883 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,760 in their own right for each other. 884 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,880 That's. I respect that so much. 885 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,360 That's why, you know, you know, being a woman is incredibly not 886 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,160 only taxing and difficult but rewarding And knowing that you 887 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,720 have made that connection. You've said that quite elegantly 888 00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:56,600 and beautifully, Brandon had just stated, because I think 889 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,720 about like we just had that my my wife thinking she's had that 890 00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:01,800 conversation with my daughter and now she's having a really 891 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,600 hard time with it. But I'm literally going to go 892 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,160 back and and just have her listen to this because I think 893 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,240 the way that you explained it is really it. 894 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:17,520 It brings like a lot of I don't want to say the word 895 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,400 appreciation. You make it sacred. 896 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,840 It's not something to be like, meh. 897 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,400 Yeah, this sucks. Guess what? 898 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,160 Yeah, it is. Realize the power like you 899 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,040 stated, like there's power in that. 900 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,280 There's so much strength in it, right. 901 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,120 I think that's why we talked about like, you know, hospitals 902 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,880 like doctors will fight for it to that. 903 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,040 Like I think down in the integrity of those doctors. 904 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,040 They're just like the ones who do fight against it are like, 905 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,000 no, I don't want you. You do not realize what what you 906 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,800 are giving away right now. For what what is it like? 907 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,000 More time to do shit, to buy more stuff, right. 908 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,600 It's it's not about that. My wife has had a partial 909 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,120 hysterectomy and they tried everything they could to be able 910 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,520 to get her. Not to that point. 911 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,160 And there are some pluses to it and I have five children and and 912 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,760 that's great. You know we've had we have a big 913 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,640 family and we we did a lot within that time And it it was 914 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,120 really hard for both of us because it's something that even 915 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,680 now when I hold a baby I'm 45 now and I'm like, there's part 916 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,280 of me going, man, what would it be like to have a kid again. 917 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,200 And even though a lot of the hard stuff is there, like I look 918 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,040 at my youngest and I'm like, holy shit that's crazy. 919 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,360 Like that's so crazy. Everything that you went through 920 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,240 and you're your spouse will go through creating that 921 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,600 understanding that seriously you've totally changed my mind 922 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,600 and periods bro. Like I am powerful. 923 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:57,520 Yes and and now yeah and cyclical and and so and and 924 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,440 connected to the universe. Everything is cyclical there is 925 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,360 this rinse repeat. Constantly there is a reminder 926 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,840 of whatever else is out there, whatever you believe in, whether 927 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,920 it's a creator or being whatever. 928 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,760 But there's something very real to that and that part of what 929 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,440 you shared and how it's interpreted into your art and 930 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,000 the cool stuff like, I mean it's you've just thought of so many 931 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,920 different ways to connect on so many different levels to the 932 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,280 five, you know, ways that we communicate to ourselves and to 933 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,480 others. And I just, he's seriously, 934 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,080 like, I mean, Brandon knows this too. 935 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,960 I'm big into neuro linguistic programming, and he's done that 936 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,960 too. And I mean, you fit all of them. 937 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,240 The audiovisual kinesthetic, the olfactory and the gustatory. 938 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,600 You envelope the senses through your pain and you have turned it 939 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,080 into something that is healing, and that's pretty crazy itself. 940 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,520 You're like a starfish, right? You cut off one of the arms and 941 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,440 it just rose back and it's same as it ever was. 942 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,200 Like a it's what you've done with parts of your your soul, if 943 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,040 I may say that, and a part of you, right. 944 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,600 You just sewn it all back together and there's no scarring 945 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,440 over there. It's just stronger. 946 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,680 Totally. And I'm not on any kind of 947 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,000 pedestal. Trust me, it's a journey. 948 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,400 It is not a destination. Yes, you get to a certain level 949 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,680 where you're like realize your own freedom, but on that level, 950 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,040 then there's a whole other menu to look at. 951 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,800 It's like you couldn't even conceive of the different levels 952 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,360 of feeling before you even got there. 953 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,280 So it becomes just a feeling of better and better and better, 954 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,200 especially with sexually, especially even just 955 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,320 emotionally. Like you can't even conceive of 956 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,040 the next level until you go through. 957 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,040 So it's it's never ending, which I love, I love. 958 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,320 Well, there's always going to be a next step. 959 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,240 You know, There's always going to be some next level in 960 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:54,480 progression, you know? So I I think that's fantastic. 961 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,880 And finding that level in that next step, it seems like you 962 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,400 have come on such an amazing journey so far at 17 years, like 963 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,320 you said when you were 18, not thinking you'd make it to 35I 964 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,760 joked around all the time about dying by 35. 965 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,240 Now I'm 36 and I'm like fuck, I don't know what to do. 966 00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,200 This is like bonus time. Yay. 967 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,480 Bonus time. Let's go. 968 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,720 I can't begin to thank you enough for your perspective 969 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,240 because you know, it's, you know, there's perception and 970 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:31,720 perspective and the perception is, is that all the answers are 971 00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:37,240 in a bottle or in a shot or some type of implant or just ripping 972 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:39,600 things out like it doesn't make sense. 973 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,720 If my car is not running well, I go, well, I'm just going to pull 974 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:46,360 these things out, you know, it's it's vital to the system. 975 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,480 But I'm gonna pull it out. What happens that's not gonna 976 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,600 run anymore? Even though you need an 977 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,560 alternator, that shit's overrated. 978 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,920 Yeah, just rip it out, right? But, but by being able to just 979 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,720 have that courage and strength that so many women out there 980 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,880 experience all the time and to understand from a man's point of 981 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,840 view and you explaining it so well, like I I have so much more 982 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,120 preach literally. We just need to take that and 983 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,480 how she explained it and we'll cut it up and we'll and yeah, 984 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,320 and we'll put it out there. And that's how schools can 985 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,960 explain it. Like, you know, a mom's having a 986 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,160 difficult time being able to explain it in a meaningful way. 987 00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:24,400 Boom, right there. There you go. 988 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,760 And then here's some art to go along with that. 989 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,680 Because it would, right? Yeah, it's the best part is it's 990 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,640 true that's it's not, I'm not exaggerating or making it any 991 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,120 kind of way other than the way that it is like because I've 992 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,880 lived in and I've tapped into it and it's just cyclical, living 993 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,760 in general. And I think we used to live like 994 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,440 that more. I mean, my husband and I live in 995 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,880 terms of my cycle and it's the way the whole Earth operates, 996 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,880 you know, it's just we've become so disconnected from our own 997 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,160 bodies and from the earth in general. 998 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,280 You know, Mother Earth knows everything. 999 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,800 So I'm really not sure why we go anywhere else. 1000 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,800 So getting in touch with our bodies specifically with the 1001 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,680 menstrual cycle is mirroring what she is going through and 1002 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,600 what she knows already and leveraging that, yeah, you can 1003 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,120 leverage every single phase has different powers. 1004 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,320 Basically, if you know what's going on in your brain and your 1005 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,200 body, you can absolutely leverage it. 1006 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,760 Yeah, So Meredith, tell our tell everyone at home where can they 1007 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,000 find you, Where can they TuneIn and listen to you? 1008 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,280 Where can they find your amazing art? 1009 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,600 I'm everywhere. You can listen on every major 1010 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,480 podcast. Platform. 1011 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,160 She is source. She is everywhere. 1012 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,920 Just TuneIn. Everywhere, dude, just TuneIn. 1013 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,120 But yeah, seriously, it is everywhere. 1014 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,320 And I'm on every social media platform. 1015 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,640 I'm very active on LinkedIn. My website is just my name, 1016 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,680 Meredith ochoa.com, and that's a great way to contact me. 1017 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,240 And that is where you can sign up and subscribe to the Every 1018 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,680 Phase series. So I'm still we're in like Year 1019 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,600 4 now. So if you sign up and subscribe, 1020 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,720 you'll get, you'll be like the first to get the piece of that 1021 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,840 base. And then I do these fun little 1022 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,160 acrylic block collectibles too. So there's a bunch of different 1023 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,320 ways to get involved and get in on it, and it's all on my 1024 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,760 website. Awesome. 1025 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,800 We'll have all those links below in the show notes. 1026 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,080 Make sure you guys check them out. 1027 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,480 Yeah, I just subscribed. So I'm. 1028 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,760 I'm super pumped. I I love that. 1029 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,240 I love your your thumbnail. That's awesome. 1030 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,080 That's really cool. My. 1031 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,680 Gosh. Meredith, thank you again so 1032 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,320 much. We we appreciated being able to 1033 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,480 not only be on your podcast, which you guys will be able to 1034 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,200 hear soon, you need to sub to her podcast so. 1035 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,360 All those who are listening. Yeah, yeah, you got to be able 1036 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,600 to get that. We really, really, really are 1037 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:58,320 excited for your journey to follow your journey to stay in 1038 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,680 touch with you. I'm sure we'll have you back on 1039 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,000 and thank you. Really appreciate. 1040 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,800 It's been real. Thank you guys. 1041 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,400 Thank you. Yeah, and as always, love you 1042 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,600 guys at home. Love our Patreon supporters. 1043 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,200 Thanks for helping us get this far. 1044 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,360 Yeah, we're we really appreciate that. 1045 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,000 And make sure to be able to like and share this. 1046 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,120 Tell tell everybody about tell about your tell your mom, right. 1047 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,720 I don't get to say enough mom jokes to Brandon because I I 1048 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,160 just feel so bad because his mom's so nice that I would feel 1049 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,440 like, horrible. I'm sorry said that about you. 1050 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,520 I'm sorry. It's OK. 1051 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,640 I don't think she listens anyway, so no. 1052 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,000 She definitely does not listen to this, all right. 1053 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,880 Oh yes, definitely. All right, everybody.