1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,080 Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,720 And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,440 about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape, flower, 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,840 edibles, strains and everything in between. 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,760 Heidi Ho, neighbor, you know. Hey, hey, hey. 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,800 So today. We're just chatting about like, 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,400 you know, legalities of cannabis around the world globally and 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,880 where it's not elite, like where it's been legal, where it's not 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,600 legal. And kind of like certain areas 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,400 you maybe just want to stay away from. 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,440 If you are using cannabis or if you are there and you do use 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,960 cannabis, shoot us a message. We would like to hear how you 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,440 stay safe. Yeah, it's, you know, it's kind 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,000 of funny how when you look at the entire world, you you have 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,960 some real like, kind of easy assumptions that it's just legal 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,879 there. Like when I was talking to you 17 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:07,800 about before we got started, one of the funniest ones that I saw 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,480 in there, or funny or the strangest ones was Jamaica. 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,080 Jamaica. It's still criminalized, but 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,480 it's not it. It's you have to have it in 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,000 small use, like it's like 2 oz that you can have on your 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,320 person. But more for religious like 23 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:23,880 Rastafarian purposes or other religious purposes. 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,040 But dude, at all, growing up, I was like, yeah, you know Bob 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,120 Marley, you get high. But he was a Rastafarian. 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,920 So yeah, he could smoke it because it was part of his 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,320 religion. And it's just strange. 28 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,720 Even the Netherlands dude, where those who are listening, we do 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,560 have people from the Netherlands listen to us learning that it's 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,560 just coffee shops like in Amsterdam, like. 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Yeah, there's a handful of places that are like 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,440 decriminalized. So it's illegal but 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,240 decriminalized or there's like a lot that it's illegal but or 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,000 only a handful that it's illegal but unenforced. 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of it, it's just like it's. 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Illegal. The one that. 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Yeah, yeah, that's a great. But we do have a lot for like, 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,480 or it's legal for adult use, which is a lot of the US We do 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:13,360 have someone like South Africa, a country in Europe, but then we 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,960 have legal for medical use, which is like Australia. 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,440 Australia is medical for, it's legal for medical use. 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Same with almost all of South America. 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Almost every country in South America is legal for medical 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,800 use. And then we just have a handful 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,600 of countries peppered throughout Europe that are also allowed for 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,280 medical use. But most of them are like 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,120 there's a bunch of decriminalized. 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Yeah, decriminalized. I think a lot of it is like, one 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,400 of the things that I had read about it is that you'll find 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,600 what was one I saw like in Spain, like, it's illegal but 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,600 decriminalized. It can't be publicly used. 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,640 Oh. But you could grow it at home. 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,800 But you can grow it at home and you can and members can freely 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,200 you know you can you can give us cannabis social clubs. 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,800 So kind of going like what Netherlands had and and you 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,520 know, honestly, I wish. Canada has those as well, yeah. 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,360 Canada's weird too, though, because. 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,120 They do have unique cannabis laws. 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,280 I've heard for the THC it's pretty open, but CBD totally 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,000 different. It's it's a lot more strict on 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,280 their CBD laws and so that makes me wonder like what's what's 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,040 going? On for the Canadian listeners, 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,680 what do you guys like? Do you use much CBD or is it 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,320 been because there's more restrictions there maybe around 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,560 it? Is that bad? 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Is there a reason that you don't use it? 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Oh, so here's something that it's a so both THC and CBD 68 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,960 cannabis products are heavily regulated in Canada. 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,640 I like that. I do too. 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,520 I like that including their marketing and advertisements. 71 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,120 For example, Canada does not permit celebrity endorsements of 72 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,120 CBD products, and marketing cannot make CBD look cool. 73 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,360 My CBD that's interesting that it's specifically in that like 74 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:06,640 that it states CBD right and celebrities for CBD like why is 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,240 it that they look at that and go we don't want this to be pushed 76 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,600 or marketed in you know XYZ avenues CBD isn't like why would 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,399 taking that. As opposed to THC. 78 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:20,040 Not be cool. Like, why would they want that? 79 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,760 To not become cool? I have no clue. 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,640 And and you know that actually gives me hope for Canadian 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,440 companies that listen to our podcast now hit us up. 82 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,240 Let's figure out a way where we can help advertise your CBD 83 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,960 products as well as your THC products. 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,440 That's a a unique thing, right? But that goes to show that the 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,000 the war on drugs that's been going on for well past, I mean, 86 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,560 it's earlier than the 80s. It's about 100 years almost. 87 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,160 Yeah. I mean, it's gone on for a real 88 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:52,080 long time because of we're seeing more decriminalizing or 89 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,600 or more medical use being propagated here in the United 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,440 States. It's over 30 states. 91 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,960 Yeah, I think you'd said 34. Around 34 states have. 92 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:02,960 At least a. Cannabis use? 93 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,600 Medical. Yeah, well, all medical, but 94 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,800 there's 24 states that are recreational or or adult use, 95 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,480 and that's a good point. You know, we were talking about 96 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,120 that. I think one of the reasons why 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,280 some of these bills get struck down is the way that it's being 98 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:20,440 shown it. If you're saying recreational 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,360 use, what does that sound like? It's outgoing. 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,600 Well, if you're doing recreational things, you're 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,280 going out and just having fun. So if you're using it for just 102 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:30,880 having fun, well, they're thinking of, well, this is just 103 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:36,320 for fun, not adult use like tobacco or alcohol. 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,960 All of these products which we have automatically deemed as 105 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,360 adult use. You have to have this specific 106 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,400 age requirement to even utilize this. 107 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,560 So it's like when I look at it and go, OK, well, it's cool, 108 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,480 'cause we have this adult label on it going, hey, you have to be 109 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,080 this age anyway. But why don't we label it as 110 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,760 adult use? We're not going, hey, we're 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,440 recreationally drinking alcohol. Yeah, we're just drinking 112 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,640 alcohol. Yeah and that's thing too like 113 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,880 it. It really it it creates a bad 114 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,560 name for it. I mean you can do that through 115 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:16,040 almost anything but the recreational tag really and and 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,520 it doesn't and and it's not done intentionally it it makes it 117 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,600 very it just gives a bad connotation with it. 118 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,760 It just sounds like I'm gonna do bad things now. 119 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,840 We are using today on on this episode. 120 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:33,240 We are partaking. One of Jesse's favorites. 121 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:38,080 Yeah, Pineapple Express. This is one of Utah's very own 122 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,120 grown. It's from Betty and it's really 123 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,560 good. I had a couple hits oddly 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,800 enough, too. And and we've got something that 125 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,360 we want to share with you kids. We have. 126 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,040 It's gonna show one of them right now all. 127 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,600 Sorts of flavors. Flint Mints, you guys probably 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,640 seen these advertised on like Facebook, Instagram. 129 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,680 Cool company. Chew my mouth. 130 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,960 Sucks Flint's mints. Make your mouth water. 131 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,680 It's it's pretty Well, I I I chewed it up and I swallowed. 132 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,760 Here's the weird thing. It kind of hurt my stomach. 133 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Interesting. And the only reason why I think 134 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,960 that is because as I say, but it's vegan, sugar free, non-GMO. 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,560 So one of the really cool things that we saw was that they have 136 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,320 like kind of like a weird dosing like 100 hundred and 5200 goes 137 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,880 up to. 300 the strength, yeah. The strength they don't. 138 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,400 Clarify on them what the strength. 139 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Is What's the mint at? 200, I think. 200, So the 140 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,800 required dosage they talked about was like 3? 141 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Yeah. No, I don't need three. 142 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,320 I mean, unless I got super bad dry mouth. 143 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,560 Now I'm gonna smoke more of this. 144 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Oh man, this is great. This is a good. 145 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,560 This is a really good grow. Holy cow. 146 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,640 So I had done a little bit of Super Lemon Haze this morning as 147 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,360 I was like getting the studio ready and this has been a really 148 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,840 nice change. It gets pulled up into my head. 149 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,800 I feel it tingling in my face. It's gotten rid of the nausea 150 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,600 that I had a little bit. It could be like his. 151 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,880 I've I've changed a lot in my diet and things like that with 152 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,000 my diabetes. So it probably just because I 153 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,400 don't normally have a ton of carbs in my stomach right now in 154 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,000 the morning. So that could have caused a 155 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 little bit of upset stomach. But here's this cool thing guys. 156 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Look at that like you've got this cool little It's just one 157 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,000 mint comes out at a time. And you know, we've tried 158 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,440 another product. You guys have heard about it. 159 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Lugra City. And it's OK. 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,760 It's not bad. But I gotta tell you, when I saw 161 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,400 this, I was like, that sounds cool. 162 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,000 Now, one of the funny things about it, I told Brandon about 163 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,480 it. I'm like the way it's being 164 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 advertised. Just sucks like Dick second 165 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Vince. Yeah, exactly. 166 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,800 Like you, these girls who put in their mouth and then they go and 167 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,880 then just drooling, I mean, like, hey, that is cool. 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Like props especially for those who who like to give great, but 169 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,520 also. Rings for Karen. 170 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 But you know what? Everybody who's listening to 171 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,040 this podcast like, I was just like, man, wouldn't we? 172 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,840 Wouldn't it be cool to try something like this? 173 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Great thing about it tastes great. 174 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,360 Oh yeah, I just did the sour tangerine and one of those I 175 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,640 had, I feel like I had pretty cottony mouth from coffee and 176 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,760 like and by the lemon haze and that so. 177 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,320 And by the way, this isn't an advertisement for We reached out 178 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,000 because we wanted to check it out, see if it was something 179 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,920 that would be decent, and they sent us a bunch of them. 180 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,240 So we want to tell you about it. We'll probably get a promo code. 181 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:29,640 They're pretty good, I like. I got watermelon. 182 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,640 I did one and I still feel like it's taken away. 183 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:38,080 A lot of that, the dry mouth. And the thing to think about too 184 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,400 is that you don't want to chew this up. 185 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:46,040 Yeah, I I'm trying the watermelon and one thing, it's 186 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,160 delicious. This is good, like a candy. 187 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:52,960 And you think about those who take medications that make their 188 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,520 mouth dry too, because some medications will cause dry 189 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,880 mouth. This would be great thing to be 190 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,960 able to have because I'm taking the 100 right now and I'm 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,280 telling you right now all the dry mouth that I had from 192 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,400 hitting that pineapple. Just a few hits like I got dry 193 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,520 mouth, it's gone. Anyways, go down to the show 194 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,680 notes, check out Flint mints, get yourself a get yourself A10. 195 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:16,280 These are cool. Keep them in your pocket. 196 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Share with your friends when you go out to smoke with them. 197 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,320 This would be great. No, you know what? 198 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,320 I'm going to go off on a tangent. 199 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,720 I just really like it all of a sudden. 200 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,280 This is the first time I've been using it and this is awesome. 201 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,680 Yeah, he just started this morning. 202 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Yeah, I tried the mint ones like a day or two ago. 203 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Which are good. Yeah, but this is the first time 204 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:35,880 he's tried them. So it's been like a new 205 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,320 introduction, but it is such a unique experience. 206 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,800 Even the like sour tangerine. My mouth feels cool. 207 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,000 Yeah, it's got a cooling sensation like a menthol, but it 208 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,640 don't taste it. Yeah, you. 209 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,040 See, That was a good hit. It's hazy as shit in here. 210 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,480 That's awesome. OK, let's. 211 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,160 Go back that second hit Pineapple Express. 212 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,360 It just, like, illuminating. Yeah, it is. 213 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,480 It's. Really nice and what's really 214 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,720 nice and and now I gotta tell you, you know we gotta figure 215 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,440 out what to do with these guys. I love this mint now dude this 216 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,480 thing is awesome. Get yourself some of these. 217 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,400 As Brandon said, Dick sucker mitts and. 218 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,440 See like the Watermelon more or the Mint one. 219 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,280 You know what, dude? I'm excited to try them all. 220 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,920 I know. They're really, really, really. 221 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,800 Good. It reminds me of Ice Breakers, 222 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,360 the like minty ones that have the different flavors with them. 223 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,320 Like here there's like Raspberry Icebreaker and you're like, oh 224 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,840 cool. Well dude, and you got to think 225 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,440 about level of of dry mouth. If you've got like super cotton 226 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,600 mouth where it feels like sand, probably want to go to two 5300. 227 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,320 That's true any. Other website. 228 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,000 I'm sure they explain everything. 229 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Yeah, but it's so cool. Oh, I'm sorry guys. 230 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,280 We just went off out of tangent there. 231 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,240 But this is really cool as our first time trying it was like, 232 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:49,800 you know, why don't we give her the shot? 233 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,360 Like we're I picked up this 8th and I was like, man, let's let's 234 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,480 smoke this. So it's been interesting when we 235 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,720 looked at the actual countries around the world that have 236 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,440 legalized. Yeah. 237 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Cannabis. It's only like a good handful. 238 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,040 We have Canada. Yeah. 239 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:16,680 Germany, Georgia, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, South Africa, 240 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:21,240 Thailand, Uruguay. Like 24 states in the US, Three 241 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,360 territories, the District of Columbia and then Australia. 242 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:30,160 Wow, so, but only the ACT in Australia. 243 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,160 Well, you look at Australia for Australian listeners like you 244 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,920 know what's cool about Australia is that it's so big but a very 245 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,120 small portion of it is actually habitable. 246 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,160 So it's that's awesome that it's it's you know they're making 247 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,360 progress over there. I know that they're striving to 248 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,800 make more progress with in in other countries and and United 249 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,440 States has a big responsibility in that and that's. 250 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,680 Why? Oh, it says 38 states in the US. 251 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:02,440 Have have medical, have have approved cannabis legal. 252 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Medical use. Right. 253 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,320 And there's like 24 that are wreck. 254 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,280 Yeah. And and the well, but that 255 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,480 number could change. I believe Ohio just came online 256 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,960 and that just this, and if you're listening to this, in the 257 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,720 month of April, the 1st of April, they brought the bill to 258 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,960 voters. In you were saying Idaho? 259 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,040 In Florida oh, Florida went Florida to. 260 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Wreck. Oh, that'd be cool, 'cause they 261 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,600 do have a current medical program, but if they have a. 262 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,960 Shit load of dispensaries. Yeah. 263 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,800 And that could be good, depending on who their cultivars 264 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,120 are and where the beginning product come from. 265 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Well, in in Florida, it has the largest testing facility. 266 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,000 On the East Coast is in Florida, it is the largest testing 267 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,360 facility. And I'm saying that based upon 268 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,520 the evidence they found over there, 'cause it is the largest 269 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,560 one as far as being able to put out volume of testing. 270 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,720 Is there a competitor in that area? 271 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Are there many competitors in that area? 272 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Is the test results from the same person across the same 273 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,160 board? Is that one who's the largest? 274 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,560 Are they the are they honest or is it just they do the most 275 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:15,080 through there And because even like when we went through the 276 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,080 grow here, he stated. Like you know, a lot of people 277 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,560 will go to the ones that they know, give them the results they 278 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,720 want. When they were talking about 279 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,800 California, absolutely. That's the one thing I don't. 280 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,280 Know Florida's? Well, no and and and that's a 281 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,280 good point because when these states come online and the 282 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,680 producers of cannabis as well as testing facilities, you also 283 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,160 have another responsibility of being able to say, OK, well we 284 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,640 need to set the bar high enough so it doesn't do that. 285 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,920 Now, luckily in Utah, we don't have very many testing 286 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,640 facilities at all for the because we don't have a ton of 287 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,240 dispensaries. We have very We have a. 288 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,800 Literally, yeah. Because they limit the licenses 289 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,960 of the dispensaries, which and. It'll increase in time. 290 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,160 I hope because for those who have medical programs, I and I, 291 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,000 this is where I look at. Florida's where they're like, 292 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,960 oh, we've got 135. I'm like, good, because as long 293 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,520 as your regulator, like as long as the quality and you have a 294 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,000 standard of quality, it doesn't matter how many dispensaries you 295 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,800 have. It's the growers, the 296 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,480 cultivators, and like the people who are creating your 297 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,520 extractions and the products, your dispensaries are just the 298 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,720 one selling it. Yeah, and that, but the, I like 299 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,840 the number of dispensaries, 'cause that shows a healthy 300 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,000 cannabis market. Yeah, like that means the 301 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,760 ability for growers and and it's like with the growers that we 302 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,960 talk to. From you, you to me, we live 30 303 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,480 minutes apart. Yeah, I wouldn't say that's too 304 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,520 far, but however in between us is four or five cities at least 305 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,520 that we can go. And we have what? 306 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,160 1/2. 2. 3. Two. 307 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,600 Just two. So the one in. 308 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,000 One in Lehigh and then one in. Provo, That's. 309 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,480 It we have two dispensaries between you and me. 310 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,560 Oh yeah. And then the next closest one is 311 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,480 Springville. So then you add in all these 312 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,880 things and you're like, how many cities, like how far do people 313 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,760 have to drive does? Draper have one. 314 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,640 They might, yeah. But then you're like, how far do 315 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,080 you have to drive to go to the pharmacy? 316 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,000 OK. Well, for me to go to the 317 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 pharmacy then I'm what, 30-40 minutes if I'm lucky? 318 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,640 Well, and you've got people further like in the middle of 319 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,720 going down South, right? So in Cedar City, Saint George 320 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,480 area, you're gonna be able to find more dispensaries down 321 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,680 there that are a little bit closer to you. 322 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,760 But think about all those people in between. 323 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,720 And so that's where it's a rough edge. 324 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,480 You like when we're talking about legalization for adult use 325 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,800 when that that's a great way to being able to look at it. 326 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,560 But the other part is like, well, are we going to get more 327 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,320 Cowboys? Are we going to get more product 328 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,440 being out there? I think it depends on the 329 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,000 growers and what regulations they have on the initial 330 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,520 products. Like you said, it's great if we 331 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,720 have a lot of dispensaries or pharmacies because that's just 332 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,920 the end of store where people can purchase it as long as we 333 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,160 have the regulations and that on the on the Cowboys, on the 334 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,000 farmers, on the. Well, can we talk about testing, 335 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,240 right? And that's where I think, 'cause 336 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,960 like in California, you can get it fudged. 337 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,680 You can go to legitimate testing one and then they get another 338 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,240 testing 1 going well. We can change it for a price. 339 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,359 And you know what? Whatever, that's that's 340 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,280 competitiveness, That's consumerism. 341 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,480 They're making those changes because they want to make the 342 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,760 sale and those other people want to get the product out there. 343 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,800 The problem that comes with it and why it's so important, and 344 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,480 that's why I think that it it's it's gonna be harder for 345 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,160 regulations to be able to open up. 346 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,120 I mean, we've got 38 states out of 50. 347 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:33,800 That's pretty fucking awesome. Yeah, we're 12 shy. 348 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,440 Yeah, that's not bad. And and some of the biggest, 349 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 like we've gone through, like whether it's completely illegal 350 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,640 in the United States, like, you know what? 351 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,800 I know. Wow. 352 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,880 Was it Wyoming? Wisconsin, let me pull it up. 353 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,920 Texas. Prohibited North Carolina, South 354 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,560 Carolina, Tennessee and Wyoming. Yeah, Idaho's a kind of a given, 355 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,040 But these? Yeah, right. 356 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,400 But I'm surprised on some of those. 357 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,320 And I'm like, OK, when is it? But we see that around the 358 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,320 country or around the globe. I'm looking at this globe and 359 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,960 it's like, all right, here's like all of these ones where 360 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,120 it's illegal or an unknown. It's most of the world is in a 361 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,760 in a place where they look at it and they're like, Oh no, it's 362 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,000 illegal. Yeah. 363 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,160 But then they have selective and illegal but tolerated. 364 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,040 Yeah, like you, you zoom in and you see those pink areas and 365 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,720 you're like, oh, that's cool. But then in South Africa, legal 366 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,400 but obstructed, meaning that it's too hard to enforce. 367 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,880 So they just don't enforce it. Like they've already got other 368 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,400 shit going on over there that's like, oh, somebody's smoking. 369 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,640 Yeah, we're cool, no worries. And we'll put that image up on 370 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,080 the screen at sometime during the podcast where you can kind 371 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,960 of see this kind of map of where it's legally illegal. 372 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:51,960 But again, because it's building up so much momentum, I'm really 373 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,400 excited to see the states. Now here's the question that I 374 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:01,120 want to be able to to to propose to you is are you more in favor 375 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:07,960 for adult use to be across the board or medical and it's not 376 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,680 picking one side or the. Other It's tough. 377 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,800 I look at both sides and I see the pros and the cons, like I 378 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,240 see value in both. Right now I see, I see there's 379 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,600 tobacco already has adult use, I see alcohol has adult use, and I 380 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,920 don't really see medical value for those. 381 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,280 Because children are going to be able to. 382 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,640 Get their and they're going to use those anyway. 383 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,520 And yet we're looking at this as a medicine on we already hold 384 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,240 medical values and properties and selling medical like 385 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,600 medicines on the pharmaceutical level of these chemical 386 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,200 compounds like. So why don't we at least approve 387 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,200 that and go, hey, at least it's medical, but even then it's 388 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,000 like, OK, well, but it also is adult use, so it's an adult use. 389 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,960 So why not? Like, why not give that access 390 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,920 going? We can have adult use because 391 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,560 there is any parent, any adult, any person who's past a certain 392 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,600 age can make that decision, can go, yeah, I'm going to put this 393 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,200 in my body. I'm OK with this because we do 394 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,560 that all the time. But this thing is not regulated. 395 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,120 But it is. Yeah, and it's kind of the weird 396 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,800 and the weird side laws that they have or or restrictions if 397 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,360 you will, restriction in this state. 398 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,320 You can't burn it, but you can vaporize it. 399 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,040 That's just strange. Yeah. 400 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,680 And like I understand it on certain levels where you're 401 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,880 going. All right, Well, then you don't 402 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,880 get carcinogens if you don't ignite. 403 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,400 It not as many, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I don't know. 404 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,600 There's proven carcinogens that come from baking it. 405 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,640 It might in certain temperature ranges if you do it too high or 406 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,920 too whatever, but but again I would on. 407 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,800 Average I'd. Have to look it up and see. 408 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,520 Exactly. And then and then we have talked 409 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,000 about that we're vaporizers. Although we absolutely love our 410 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,480 bong, it is good, but a vaporizer is more convenient. 411 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,240 You know what my favorite is to do with this? 412 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,040 I guess not my favorite, but I do like to do it sometimes 413 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,120 because I still like to put the vaporizer in it and then it's 414 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:04,000 like the smoothest thing ever because this is the most amazing 415 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,840 bond. But if you were to utilize that 416 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,040 with a vaporizer with it too, then it's just like so smooth. 417 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,200 Yeah, and it's way more convenient and that's where I'm 418 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,440 I'm thinking about like with these laws that are coming up, 419 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,440 you know why are they becoming, why are more states wanting to 420 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,440 look at a medical in. A lot of it comes down to is the 421 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,760 voters. It's the voters 100%. 422 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,600 So if you don't think you can make an impact, your vote 423 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,960 actually counts also. I mean, we've talked about it 424 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,840 off and on for so long. A lot of the issues, a lot of 425 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,080 the concerns, a lot of the things I feel like stem from 426 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,320 fear, from what everyone's been taught for so long. 427 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,320 It's all the same mindset of like, hey, marijuana was a scary 428 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,280 drug. Yeah, but I I even look. 429 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,720 I mean Idaho would be 1. Yeah. 430 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,840 So with that, I wonder if like going into a medical program 431 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,800 going, hey, we're not going to allow this for adults. 432 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,480 We know that it helps with this or it helps with this, but we 433 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,280 don't want everyone using that because we still see it as 434 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,120 making people stupid and dumb and all of this. 435 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:05,080 But if there's medical value, then maybe the people who need 436 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,720 it for medicine can use it for that, you know? 437 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,960 So. Well, and then that. 438 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,240 That's the door that's opening the doorway. 439 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,720 But also right there, and you bring up a good point. 440 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,760 The point is, is that yes, if they perceive it as being stupid 441 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,280 then it backed down to the consumer. 442 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,760 Well, even you and me, when you had talked about it, you were 443 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,880 like, hey, you know, even sometimes I think my mind, even 444 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,800 in the back of it, am I smoking too much? 445 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,880 And you're like, well, is it these mind, Like these ideas I'm 446 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,680 thinking of come from all of these ideas that I've been 447 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,360 taught my whole life. Not necessarily a bad thing, but 448 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,760 it's just so ingrained, I think on the human, you know, we've 449 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,360 been taught for so long that it's like, it's really hard, 450 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,440 even if you believe it on that. Like how many times do I think, 451 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,640 man, do I feel addicted? Do I feel like I'm relying on 452 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,720 this? And like all these things that 453 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,080 I'm like, OK, am I, am I pulling these things from Dare? 454 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,200 Am I pulling these things from like all the the things that 455 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,440 I've grown up knowing? Or is it from like and it's fine 456 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,840 if it is where it's fine if it's from another one. 457 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,320 But, you know, it's just that understanding. 458 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:17,200 Even you and me or someone who's been in cannabis for ages might 459 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,400 still sometimes find that their mind might still have a pull 460 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,000 from some old idea or theory or something that might not be what 461 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,760 you hold on to every day. But for some reason, in a moment 462 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,280 you find that you're getting pulled to that. 463 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,160 So maybe for all these people who have no understanding of it, 464 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,840 you know it still is a very it's. 465 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,120 Different. It's an age thing too. 466 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,480 Because you know, when you brought up the DARE program, was 467 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,240 it successful? No, it wasn't successful. 468 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,960 It it was some politician's wet dream to make sure that they 469 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,600 were giving what the administration at the time was 470 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,080 proposing. They really wanted change or 471 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,400 whatever that meant. But I I honestly, it's not even 472 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,360 the worry of dare. Like dare never got me there. 473 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,000 The one thing always that it comes back to is somebody that I 474 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,280 know got arrested and actually serving time. 475 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,320 So I think that's where a lot of it comes from is that and 476 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,920 letting go of that part where you're not going to serve time. 477 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,880 We're talking about how these states are trying to come online 478 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,760 like Florida. The one of the biggest 479 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,480 components against it is that they're like well you know, 480 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,800 underage. I mean that's always a thing 481 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,000 that's a that's a given that I think that's that's a generic 482 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,080 answer. But the other part is it's DUIS 483 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,960 or public intoxication and again that goes back down to the user. 484 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,680 That's why it's so important to go low and slow and so. 485 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,800 On that, I'm gonna get your thoughts on that. 486 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,720 So say you're out not not testing a product, but like say 487 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,640 you're out and about and even even you have a medical card you 488 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,240 get pulled over kind of stops you. 489 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,640 He's like, Oh yeah, you're you're under the influence or 490 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,360 whatever. He wants to test you. 491 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040 How do you feel or do you feel there is a good way to test 492 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,880 that? Because my dose to yours, I 493 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,000 might have the same particulates per million in my bloodstream as 494 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,960 you do, but yet you might feel way more intoxicated. 495 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,560 Than oh, totally. I think that just comes down to 496 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,080 you know, knowing your limit. What's the limit? 497 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,360 Because they're not gonna. See how. 498 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,320 They it's just is it in your system? 499 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,400 And then it's OK. Well, I might metabolize really 500 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,880 fast, so my high might not even last as long, so it might still 501 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,280 show up in my blood. But then they're like, well, but 502 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,760 you have this many parts per million. 503 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,880 OK, but I am 100% there. There is no time distortion, no 504 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,240 like distance distortion. There's nothing there that is 505 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,360 manipulating how I feel. Well, and then it comes back to 506 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:51,160 what were you doing to be able to get pulled over exactly, I 507 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 mean and and I will say. This make them think that you're 508 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,720 high in the first place. Well, I mean, think about this 509 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,520 dude. Like, the last time I was pulled 510 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:04,160 over was over 13 years ago. Wow that. 511 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,200 Makes sense though. Because of my light. 512 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,800 I'm thinking about how you drive. 513 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,520 That makes a lot of sense. I'm a very conservative, very 514 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,680 passive driver because I would rather get there alive. 515 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,720 All I'm thinking is I'm in this machine that weighs thousands of 516 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,280 pounds and it's going very fast. Like it's. 517 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,400 Bro, it's you ever rode with my dad. 518 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,720 Just that's how we always drove. And then Curtis. 519 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,040 And so I feel like. I've driven with Curtis so many 520 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,960 times and just like, yeah, terrifying. 521 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,680 Let. Me try another one of these. 522 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,040 Same with my dad. Terrifies this shit out of me, 523 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:40,920 but I am way more way mellow. Like in comparison to 1015 years 524 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520 ago. Oh my gosh, I get pulled over 525 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,040 every once in a while. Yeah, I know. 526 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,800 I think that's funny. But I haven't had a ticket, I 527 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:53,000 feel like in maybe five years. Last ticket I got was over 20 528 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,280 years ago. OK, but even my SO, the last 2-3 529 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,400 times that I had gotten pulled over, I still had cannabis in my 530 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,560 system. I actually feel incredibly 531 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,960 normal. Like, it's so hard for me to 532 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:14,360 feel displaced that most of the time I'm OK, comfortable driving 533 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:18,760 in a vehicle with cannabis in my system because it takes a 534 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,920 ludicrous amount for me to play, like actually feel displaced, 535 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,080 right? And so I'm like, OK, there's 536 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,440 been so many times. So every time I had gotten 537 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,440 pulled over, there's cannabis in my system. 538 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,040 But I talked to that police officer just fine. 539 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,920 There was never an issue and there was never a concern, a 540 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,840 question or anything of Sir, are you high? 541 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,800 Sir? Are you under the influence, 542 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,360 like ever? And so I'm like, I I know it 543 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,760 happens to people, but I'm very curious into what were you 544 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,880 doing? What was the smell like? 545 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,520 Were your eyes like crazy? Like were you acting high? 546 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,600 Was your car? Was there things in your car 547 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480 that were making it look like you were under the influence? 548 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,840 Like officer comes up to my car, it's clean, there's nothing 549 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,440 there. Maybe my drink in my cup holder, 550 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,280 if that. Like it's usually very clean. 551 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,400 I've had way too many interactions getting pulled over 552 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,920 in my life, getting tickets. I'm always respectful. 553 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,320 Well, it goes back to projection is perception. 554 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,560 Because if I if I emanate that I am a Stoner or that I am using 555 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,440 cannabis at the moment like. Or if you come off afraid, 556 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,360 'cause you're nervous, going, oh crap, I'm doing something wrong. 557 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,040 I'm nervous I'm going to get in trouble. 558 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,360 And all that happens is if I get pulled over, I go, all right, 559 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,520 cool, well, this is normal for me. 560 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,280 Nothing's changing for me, except for now I'm engaging with 561 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,920 someone, right? So now all I need to do is look 562 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,520 at the situation, Go. What's going on? 563 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,760 How can I help you? Yeah. 564 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,560 And that's the thing, you know, honestly. 565 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,240 And one thing I will say, I know there's a lot of racial 566 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400 profiling with that. I'm not going to deny that. 567 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,360 And that's just part of the the culture that will be eventually 568 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,760 weed its way out of law enforcement. 569 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,200 You have to remember this is decades upon decades upon 570 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,200 decades of compounding interest of these things are bad. 571 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,280 You protect good people, put away bad people. 572 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,000 And then it's accounting, OK, these are bad people. 573 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,520 And then it's perpetuated from the longest time. 574 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720 And you're like, OK, but they're not like there. 575 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,280 There's bad people everywhere, there's good people everywhere. 576 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,240 And you're gonna run into both. But it's not just always 577 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,760 assuming that every person you see, whether it's you know and 578 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,040 even just like profiling of cars or motorcycles or like this 579 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,280 person's big and has tattoos, or that person's like yellow, 580 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,920 green, black, purple, whatever the hell color they are and 581 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,920 they're looking at it and going, oh, they're different. 582 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,400 Or they're. Well, I mean, you know with 583 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,840 cannabis being illegal because of, you know Mexicans and blacks 584 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,680 and then it just perpetuated from there like I even thought 585 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,320 about that like and and I'm curious, you guys got a story. 586 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,440 Are you are you of Asian descent and you've been profiled for 587 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,720 breaking the law. Probably not. 588 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560 I mean maybe in Hawaii just because I've. 589 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,960 I've been there and yeah, I mean you know it's not not it's not 590 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,160 just not just the polly's there but but you think about like 591 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,600 wherever you're at, if you're acting a certain way then you 592 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,720 will get certain attention. So like I said, the last time I 593 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,240 got a ticket and it was my fault, I was falling too close 594 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000 and a tiny Fender Bender. That was my bad. 595 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,560 But there was a Fender Bender involved, so that's also 596 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,560 different. That's totally different, yeah. 597 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,720 When have I ever been pulled over for speeding or any of that 598 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,640 other stuff? And I do speed from time to 599 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,880 time. But. 600 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,480 Yeah, I do. But I mean, I'm not always 601 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,640 vanilla when it comes to driving all I keep thinking, I mean 602 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,040 after you have it, it just when your responsibilities get higher 603 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,760 in life and then you get older, you start to think about like I 604 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600 used to drive like you and your and your brother. 605 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,320 Well, see now. You're not as in. 606 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,800 My cruise at like 75 and I'll just set my cruise. 607 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,240 But that's the thing. You don't look like somebody to 608 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,160 begin. I mean, I will let you guys know 609 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,360 this Brandon has been in cuffs and in jail. 610 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,520 I have never been. I've been in cuffs, but I 611 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,920 usually talk my way out. But Brandon has been, and he's. 612 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000 For, like, stupid. And he's always in the stupid 613 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920 shit, wrong place, wrong time. But even then, though, thinking 614 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,640 about now, if you got pulled over, I don't think you would be 615 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,040 suspicious. Enough going. 616 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,240 I need to test this guy. He was a If you're driving, and 617 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,240 you are clearly high, if I'm on a really strong indica for me 618 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,400 because some sativas put people down, it's just your 619 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,000 endocannabinoid system. Nobody's the same, but if I am 620 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,320 really high, I'm not driving anywhere and that's a rarity. 621 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Me too. But that's because I actually 622 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,120 like if you feel really high, you don't want to drive. 623 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,200 No. And I know that because, I mean, 624 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,960 it's been ages since I felt that way. 625 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,160 Well, Pineapple Express I could drive on this. 626 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,640 Oh 100%. I don't feel it was funny. 627 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:05,800 I had went over and saw Mcquay and we, I brought some flour. 628 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,680 We had a couple joints. It was great. 629 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,920 And after the couple joints and maybe 30-40 minutes, I'm sitting 630 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,680 there and I'm like, all right, well, I gotta head out to drive 631 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,560 back, gotta go get my kid from school the end of the day. 632 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,160 And he was like, what? You're OK? 633 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400 And I'm like, I don't feel anything. 634 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,680 I feel just fine. Yes, I'm OK to drive. 635 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,560 And he's like, Oh my gosh, I'm like, I don't feel high. 636 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,960 I don't have your endocannabinoid. 637 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,040 System and and on top of that, McLean doesn't use as frequently 638 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,960 as Uri. You know, I I consume on a on a 639 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,400 decent day, I can consume like 3 maybe four times a day. 640 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,200 If I'm really using. I mean, it's literally every two 641 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,960 hours. Yeah, I'm probably smoking, if 642 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,520 not earlier than that. See if I'm consuming and like, 643 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,920 'cause I heard or like actually just consuming probably like 3-4 644 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,800 times an hour, yeah? So quick, quick break again, 645 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,200 'cause I'm I'm taking these mints, so when you increase, Oh 646 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,040 yeah, dosage did. You take two this time. 647 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,720 No, I just went up. So I took 100 on the first one, 648 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,160 the, the 100 milligram, you can say I took the 150 cherry. 649 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,880 Yeah, I'm just think, 'cause the other one, just 100. 650 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,280 It's for slight cottonmouth, this one a little bit more and I 651 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,280 started getting more cottonmouth than I started to click. 652 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,240 And I I know the audience absolutely hates it. 653 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,840 So give the charity a try. Or even like the higher dose 654 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,720 ones 'cause it's gonna. Try the cinnamon. 655 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,200 It's 300 cinnamon. Ginger What? 656 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,480 Oh dude, that sounds great. Wow, that sounds delicious. 657 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160 That's a dose stoners. But see, that's the thing like, 658 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,520 you know, and and for law enforcement that listens to 659 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,640 this, I guarantee there are, I hope some DEA agents listen to 660 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,440 this. But you know, I I'm wondering 661 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,840 what your judgement is on it now, knowing what you know. 662 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,920 Or are you still of the old school going? 663 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,640 Yeah, I smoke it, but it's bad, so I gotta bust. 664 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,400 It so on that I'm very I'm very curious because I feel like 665 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,320 there should be A to test someone behind the wheel even 666 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,199 ahead of time of going like. Yeah, but it's so hard to know, 667 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,080 right? But it's like I I wish you could 668 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,639 find someone's dose of like, hey, where is it? 669 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,320 Even with like a simulator or something. 670 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,840 Because I would be curious to simulate or test with highway 671 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,639 patrolmen. I would go sit with cops. 672 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,520 I will go drive with you guys didn't. 673 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,040 They do a test here in Utah. No, but they did. 674 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,560 Alcohol. They did test. 675 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,560 They've done that everywhere. They did one that I watched with 676 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,400 joints and Highway Patrol in another state and what they had 677 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,080 done is basically. Smoked a joint. 678 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,120 Couple joints. So basically there was a medical 679 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,320 user, there was like a person who used maybe like once a month 680 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,000 or something like that, maybe once a day. 681 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,880 And then someone who like never used. 682 00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:02,200 And every person was basically fine to drive until they had 683 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,080 almost smoked an entire gram. Jeez, that's a lot. 684 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,040 Yeah, I think. And so I mean. 685 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,280 For me, that's a lot. But it was like even response 686 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,480 times and things, they felt OK and the testing response times 687 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,120 were fine. The only one who is more medical 688 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,720 use was like, yeah, I know they didn't really see much of A 689 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,600 delay at all. That's crazy. 690 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,240 But that's because they medically use it all the time. 691 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,840 It's a different dose, it's a different interaction than 692 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,600 someone who's like I, I socially use this, I recreationally use 693 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,280 this. I adult use this with friends 694 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,320 once a month. Like very different. 695 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,480 Yeah, yeah. And I I think that now with 38 696 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,680 states having the ability to be able to consume cannabis either 697 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,360 medically or recreationally, I think the wreck side is a lot, 698 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,400 is a lot more than than just the medical side. 699 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160 I do like it that more states are coming on wreck, but at the 700 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,880 same time I just think that the regulations need to be more 701 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,400 strict. I think we need to be looking to 702 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,640 our neighbors to the north, 'cause they are very strict on 703 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,880 it and they have a lot of high quality products like Canadians 704 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,440 that I know and they're just like, dude, some of the best 705 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,560 weed are is out here and that's like, OK, cool, but we had it. 706 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,040 Legal for a while. But even then though, I mean 707 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640 cannabis has been grown in California forever. 708 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,040 But we have no regulation. That's our problem is we don't 709 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,080 have a cross the board regulation on anything and even 710 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,000 in California we found shitty ass products. 711 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,280 No. Bad products. 712 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,520 And there's products that you know we've seen in the news and 713 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,600 stuff that have gotten you know called back or people having 714 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,600 issues and that. So it's we just don't have the 715 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,160 regulation but like you said look to the neighbors to the 716 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,720 north and. Yeah. 717 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,720 What are they doing so well? Because they've pretty much 718 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,360 decriminalized it in in many aspects. 719 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,600 So it's not taboo or anything like that. 720 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,800 The you can't tell me that you know, the the rates of violent 721 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,000 acts like, you know, 'cause that's what it's typically 722 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,280 assumed. It's gonna be like Back in the 723 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,200 day, the assumptions were there was gonna be more lawlessness, 724 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,800 there was gonna be more vandalism and robbery. 725 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040 I don't think so. I don't think so, but I think 726 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,080 it's just because of the past perception that it's it's a hard 727 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,280 transition for people to make for those who have been against 728 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,760 it, because it's almost the same thing with smoking cigarettes. 729 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,680 For me. I demonize cigaretes because I 730 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,840 smoked them. They did no good for me. 731 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520 Well, I don't know anyone who it does good for. 732 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:34,840 Well, I know that tobacco, in certain medicinal ways, is good. 733 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,640 But most people aren't smoking. Just tobacco, no. 734 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,240 So they're they're full on. I mean and that's that's why 735 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:44,920 that smoking cannabis cannot be placed in the same bucket. 736 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,480 Yes, it is carcinogens that are going into your system. 737 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,320 If you burn. It yeah, if you burn it. 738 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,760 But with vaporizers and new vaporizers coming online all the 739 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,200 time, even Dragonfly was saying that they're building out a new 740 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,480 one. Yeah, their own model. 741 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,800 Yeah, Utah guys, it's going. To be like 50-60. 742 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,320 Bucks. Yeah, around that. 743 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,320 Super, super affordable for vaporizer. 744 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,800 That's affordable. Yeah, we'll let you guys know 745 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,880 when that comes out and we'll have to show it off. 746 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,840 People let us know about what's going on in your state. 747 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000 What are the things that you're seeing? 748 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,600 Are you seeing a gradual progression? 749 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,880 And as the as the perception of cannabis as being less and less 750 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,360 of a a bad thing and just being accepted as normal. 751 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,600 I look at it as the same way it should be where people go to 752 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,320 their grocery store and buy a case of beer. 753 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,920 Yeah, I'm buying a brand, I'm buying. 754 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,400 I'm buying the flavor. I'm buying the feel. 755 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,080 The only thing that I'm I'm more for is that if you smoke too 756 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,360 much, you're just going to pass out. 757 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,280 If you drink too much, you're probably going to do some real 758 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,280 stupid shit, yeah? Or you might kill yourself from. 759 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,120 Alcohol poisoning. Alcohol poisoning? 760 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,840 Yeah. Versus falling asleep. 761 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,520 Yeah. Yeah. 762 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,400 Seriously. Or just getting super paranoid 763 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,560 and either you go to the ER or you tough it out or you're smart 764 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,920 because you listen to this podcast and. 765 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,160 You take some CBD. And take some lemon juice. 766 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,880 Absolutely. Like, do that and and you'll 767 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,880 start to see a lot more, you know. 768 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,080 You know, it's surprising. Even dragonfly. 769 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,880 I was up there and the pharmacist budtender that was 770 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,920 there didn't know about drinking lemon juice. 771 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,120 Most people don't. And I was like, bro, 'cause I 772 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,680 was talking to him and he's like, oh, have you tried this 773 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,360 drain? He's like, no, it really makes 774 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640 me anxious. And I just, I don't like that. 775 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,320 So I try and stick towards these ones. 776 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,800 I was like, oh, well, if you ever notice that you are feeling 777 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,400 that, do you ever use CBD? And he's like, no. 778 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,440 And I was like, well, CBD is good, but if you have lemon 779 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,200 juice, it'll bring down like the heart palpitations and that 780 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,320 anxious feeling that you get. And it'll lessen your high a 781 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,440 little. Bit, but it's almost 782 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600 instantaneous. Oh yeah, like so it's within 783 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,560 like 5 to 20 seconds that you're almost feeling a difference. 784 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,280 A noticeable difference. Exactly. 785 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,120 Like what? I have to try that tonight. 786 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,920 I'm like you should. And that because that type of 787 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,160 education isn't out there and it's just through trial and 788 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,080 error, you know, it's how I experimented so much of myself 789 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,880 and because I would get. Too high. 790 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,480 Sometimes smoking with you I would get too high. 791 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,840 What? Because I'm just trying to keep 792 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,840 up. Don't do that. 793 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,280 Well, no. I I mean, I've learned my 794 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,360 lesson. I don't do that anymore. 795 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,720 I I know where my limit is. I was. 796 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:16,960 Telling everyone at home. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 797 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,360 Oh, you know what? Maybe one day we'll have oh, go 798 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,040 live. Yeah. 799 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,800 I was like. We'll do a, We'll do a. 800 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,560 Smoke off for those who actually want to keep up and then, you 801 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,040 know, we'll see. Oh, that'd be cool. 802 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,360 Yeah, that'd be way cool. We should do a smoke off. 803 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,640 We'll do some content around that. 804 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,240 That'd be hilarious. One of my other cousins, she was 805 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,880 like, when we talked about doing the smoke off, she was like, 806 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,800 cool, well, how do you want to start? 807 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,600 And I was like, well, we could start with edibles and then 808 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,000 maybe some tabs and then, I don't know, smoke some joints or 809 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,040 something. And it was like what type of, 810 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,680 like what dose of edible do you want? 811 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,320 And she was like, well, if we're starting, like, if we're doing 812 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,600 the same to see who greens out first, then maybe I should do 813 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000 yours. And I was like, well, I just 814 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,840 fuck around with 200 and I don't feel it. 815 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,520 So do you want me to start you at 200? 816 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,080 And she was like, oh, fuck. I mean, I guess, I guess that's 817 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,120 what we're doing. But yeah, I I guess so. 818 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,240 We still have yet to record that but. 819 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,840 Oh my God, No way. No way. 820 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,040 It's too much. Yeah, it would be intense. 821 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,480 I couldn't do that. Like, I could do a smoke off and 822 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,320 I'd probably get, I mean, if it was this, if it was this, like 823 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,880 right now, I feel pretty good on it. 824 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,960 This is, it's really nice. I'm the Betty. 825 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,560 I don't feel heart palpitations. I don't feel, I feel like a 826 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,240 little bit relaxed but not like. Not too, not heavy, but it's 827 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:38,840 weird. It's heavy on my eyes a little 828 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,880 bit but I'm, I'm very awake so I know my blood vessels in my eyes 829 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,280 are really opened up. They're so. 830 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Relaxed. I feel that my eyelids feel a 831 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,240 little, but not like I don't feel tired at all. 832 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,160 It's just like I have weights almost on my eyelids. 833 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,480 Yeah see for those states that are not and I know that you got 834 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,880 you're listening in states that it's illegal and. 835 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,880 And countries it's illegal. Yeah, and you know what? 836 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,160 Just it's because of these moments that we get to be able 837 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,640 to enjoy like Brandon and I, I mean we we meet every week to to 838 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,680 be able to create these episodes, but we get to consume 839 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,040 cannabis together and there's a union behind that and I want 840 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,760 more people to feel closer to one another as opposed to just 841 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,440 being able to say, well, it is what it is. 842 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,400 And honestly, for those who do partake and well, if you're 843 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,440 nervous about partaking with others, it's actually super 844 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,840 enjoyable. If you can find a strain, that 845 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,440 one's really good. The sour tangerine. 846 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,160 If you can find a strain that doesn't make you crazy paranoid, 847 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,480 like if that's something you're into, Like if you that happens 848 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,960 that you get really paranoid. Find a good mellow strain. 849 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,840 Yeah, find some friends. Social smoking, like having a 850 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,320 session together, is one of the most enjoyable things you can 851 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,280 do. I think so. 852 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,960 And you know, for for those that are listening over there, stay 853 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:04,720 safe if you're an illegal place. I know you already are, but 854 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,000 don't get too paranoid about it. But we're glad that you're 855 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,040 partaking and continue to just just put this cannabis in a 856 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,840 positive light. It's up to you to put this in a 857 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,760 positive light. It's not the lawmakers the 858 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,320 reason why it's legal in our state, which is an ultra 859 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,200 conservative state, but it's it shifts a little bit here and 860 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,440 there now more than it ever has, but it's because over 70% of the 861 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,520 population wanted it so. Well, it's 'cause people, people 862 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,680 like me, people like you, went around and got signatures from 863 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,120 people all over the state going, hey, we need, yeah, Would you be 864 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,800 OK? Are you? 865 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,640 We're trying to get medical cannabis for patients in the 866 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,680 state here and we went around and got enough signatures to get 867 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,400 it on a ballot to go, yeah, we want this here in Utah. 868 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,160 Yeah, and it that means if Utah can do it, that means Idaho can 869 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,920 do it. Texas can do it. 870 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,600 Wisconsin. Wyoming can do it. 871 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,760 Yeah, South Carolina can do it. Yeah, all of the countries 872 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,280 around the world. Well, I know that. 873 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,000 Germany has been able to do some new yeah laws where you can grow 874 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,680 your own and you can consume. You just can't openly consume 875 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,400 like in public. I mean, that makes sense. 876 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,040 There's a lot of places that open consumption isn't big 877 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,440 because it's it's the same with alcohol. 878 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,360 And you know, if you're gonna consume in public, that's where 879 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,440 you got your carts. Yeah, carts are less smell, less 880 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,720 suspicious, and it's cool. It's not as best as flour, but 881 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:35,200 it's still pretty good. Yeah, it'll still do the job 882 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,440 sometimes. And you know, if you're if 883 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,960 you're in a pinch or if you're really hurt or whatever it is, 884 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,160 yeah, that pen will do. And if you're if you are 885 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,360 lawmakers over there and you're listening to this and you're 886 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,840 thinking, you know, why would I, I want cannabis in my state. 887 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,320 Look at the technology that's been developed over the last 888 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,680 four years and you can see this amazing progression. 889 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,840 Just in the last two years alone they have been able to create 890 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,880 some amazing cannabis related. Products. 891 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,600 I think The thing is, and this is the the hard realization 892 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,560 maybe for most politicians or people sitting behind that 893 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,360 Anyways, cannabis is in your state, cannabis is in your 894 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,400 country. Oh yeah. 895 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,480 The only difference is do you want to have it regulated and 896 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,960 have quality products or do you want to have it black market and 897 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,120 legacy products? Yeah, that's the one thing and I 898 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,520 I will end on on saying this is that in Florida one of their 899 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,880 biggest biggest issues over there is that if it's not 900 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,040 legalized and this is the pro side, I I actually talked 901 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,640 against it. But on the pro side what they're 902 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,920 really trying to make sure is, is that black market cannabis is 903 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,600 not getting into the hands. I feel bad for those border 904 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,680 states because they're still getting Mexican schwag, nasty 905 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,400 weed, right? And it's not all bad in Mexico. 906 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,400 I'm going to say that there's some probably great cannabis out 907 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,800 there, but when they're grown the way they are grown outside, 908 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,280 just tossed out, barely water. Level of quality and. 909 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,920 You are. They have levels of fentanyl in 910 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,440 it. And I think that's a personal 911 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,160 choice. I mean, maybe people get it 912 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,840 dosed. I don't know if you had somebody 913 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,520 die from fentanyl. I'm so sorry. 914 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,800 That sucks. And if cannabis was involved in 915 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,280 it, this is the biggest reason why, when you have legal 916 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,280 cannabis to consume. You can have regulated quality 917 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,920 products that don't have. Anything like that, why would 918 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,720 you? I mean, it's not like I'm going 919 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:27,240 to some random dude buying chicken and steak from him. 920 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:30,040 Like hey, do you have these on the like, no, I'm going to go 921 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,320 get it from somewhere that really has to be able to look 922 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,280 at. I mean, I know conspiracy and 923 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,760 and facts, you know, food systems fucked up. 924 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,560 But regardless, it's almost the same thing. 925 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,280 Like I at least know that there's some regulatory process 926 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,240 that makes sure that I get the highest quality, which makes it 927 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:51,640 I don't want to consume garbage home grown crap that really I 928 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,640 don't know what they did. If Brandon, if you grew it, I 929 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,200 would smoke it because I know how much love, care and 930 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,640 attention you give it. And you have tons of plants 931 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,400 around your house and you keep those things well and alive. 932 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,800 I know that those things would be even better with you. 933 00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:08,360 And so it's it, You know, I would I buy from Brandon as a 934 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,960 plug. Fuck yeah. 935 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,760 I don't know if I would grow my own this. 936 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,760 More on the personal side a. 100% If I ever got to that 937 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,600 point, I would grow because I thought about how many tinctures 938 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,160 and edibles. Like I could justify making, you 939 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,680 know, 1G edibles. Like I could have 1000 940 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,320 milligrams a day and never blink an eye and it wouldn't matter 941 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,720 because I would be able to grow all my own product. 942 00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:36,200 Yeah, and that would be cool and that. 943 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,000 That when I look at cost effectiveness, for me to go buy 944 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:43,800 that much product to go through 1000 milligrams in a day, I'm 945 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,240 like, I I can't justify spending that much. 946 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,920 I don't feel like that makes sense to me. 947 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,280 But for my medical use, like if I do that, I have way less pain. 948 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,480 Like I feel so much better, but it's like an insane amount of 949 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,800 product to go through. Yeah. 950 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,120 And again, that's it's on us as the voters in these states. 951 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,480 I mean, you know when it comes to like the president and stuff 952 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040 like that, like it's really hard to say if your vote really 953 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,520 counts. But when it comes to these laws 954 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,520 that are local for you on a federal level, yes, it's 955 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,440 illegal. But we have more states come on 956 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,000 board that's when we're going to start seeing 40 out. 957 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,640 Of 50 like what's the what is the federal government going to 958 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,600 do? At that point, they really can't 959 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,920 do anything and that's where we can probably see 960 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,520 decriminalization across the board because instead of passing 961 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,280 laws just say look increase the tax like you do on on alcohol 962 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,200 and. Tobacco, even gas, like all of 963 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,000 these things have it. And then I look at it and go 964 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,560 Colorado, all of these states who have put in taxable funding, 965 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,200 granted Colorado's taxes? Fucking insane. 966 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,560 It's like 23 or 26. Percent, Yeah, that's pretty 967 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,880 brutal. So high. 968 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,760 But if they could have a normal margin of tax and still have 969 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,120 that, they could still make ludicrous amounts for their like 970 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,600 for the government, for that actual state itself that can go 971 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,080 to schools, that can go to infrastructure, that can go to 972 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,360 all sorts of growth and development. 973 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:12,360 Yeah, and you have a happier citizens. 974 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,160 Yeah. And so it's like, OK, you could 975 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,280 take away death overdoses because you do take away people 976 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,560 on pain meds. You take pain Med occasion users 977 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,480 and a lot of them can utilize cannabis. 978 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,040 And even to be able to detox and get off of that, I I know many 979 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,240 people that have used cannabis to get off of drugs, get off of 980 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:35,800 alcohol and it it's it's been a real life saver for him. 981 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,840 You know, will it be a cure all for everything? 982 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,600 Absolutely not. Will it help? 983 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,960 Out of you that it can still help with. 984 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,560 Well, and the cool thing is that you can continue to try 985 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,000 different strains as opposed to taking different medications. 986 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,960 That you got to hope and pray, but the side effects don't 987 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,440 outweigh the effectiveness. But with cannabis, you don't 988 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,560 have to worry. About that, think about it. 989 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,160 OK, so say you had you went and got a few different strains. 990 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,760 Yeah. If you have a negative side 991 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,720 effect from a medication, how long do you have to take that 992 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:08,080 medication to see if that side effect goes away before they 993 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,680 switch you to another one or? Before you have to go to the ER. 994 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,800 Yeah, but like how? It's not usually instantaneous, 995 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:17,040 but if you smoke something and you're like, yeah, this one 996 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,360 makes me anxious. Cool. 997 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,040 You take some lemon juice and you don't smoke that one, you go 998 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,200 smoke a different one. Yeah, and get a small amount. 999 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,960 And then it can instantly change that experience and you go, oh 1000 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,120 cool, I like that one. Well, now you're not having to 1001 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,000 take a bunch more medication and having to go call your doctor 1002 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,360 and go, hey, I need to find a different one, 'cause this gives 1003 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,760 me this. Well, we're going to, we're 1004 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,880 going to try one. You know, it might be a few 1005 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,000 weeks of you trying it to see how it goes versus like you use 1006 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,960 it once and go, oh, that that felt weird. 1007 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,000 I didn't like that. Well, and that's one of the 1008 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,600 things that I really liked about select as their little, their 1009 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,040 little. 3rd of a gram third. Of a gram pens because it's a 1010 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,760 great way to test it and not to get really financially involved, 1011 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,560 like it's 20 bucks to get one of those and that's great and you 1012 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,160 can test it and that's a great gateway. 1013 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,600 Out in like states where you can buy flour by the gram. 1014 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,320 You can get that so cheap sometimes, and so you could buy 1015 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,080 a gram of a ton of different strains, because if you're new, 1016 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,080 a gram will still. BE Yeah, I remember that. 1017 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,960 Like teeny tiny little bags and just a gram of flour. 1018 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,120 Like, here's a nug of this, here's a nug of this and that 1019 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,800 would last you for ages. I was like, oh shit, what? 1020 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,000 Yeah, it's like those tubes that I have. 1021 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,560 Like I I have to fill up my tubes more often now. 1022 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,640 But it's exactly that. It's it just and again it goes 1023 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,520 back to you. It's all in your responsibility 1024 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,640 if you want it legalized. More places be that example so 1025 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,400 that they want to pass more laws. 1026 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,560 Don't show up as the Stoner. They're like, hey, I'm like, I 1027 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,680 can't function, I can't talk, I can't enunciate or like put out 1028 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,920 a coherent sentence. You know, if you really want to 1029 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,960 show that cannabis is something you want out there, don't be. 1030 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,600 Like, hey, I'm rooting for alcohol and I'm going to show up 1031 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,160 ship faced, drunk, make alcohol illegal, No, show up as a decent 1032 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,680 human being that they look at and go, OK, this person showing 1033 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,320 up saying they want cannabis, OK, well now it's not the 1034 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,680 alcoholic who's staggering with his beard, spilling it going. 1035 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,320 Make alcohol. Yeah, like I meant any of those. 1036 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,240 Me. But I but I've seen them. 1037 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:25,400 That's the image of what we portray in some of it when we 1038 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,880 show up going make this, this, this, and it's like, OK, what 1039 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,800 are you pushing out like? It's great that you want it 1040 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,880 legal. What's your energy you're 1041 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,600 putting out? What do people see? 1042 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,480 Do you not see what you're putting out? 1043 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,560 You're going. This is what I want. 1044 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,800 OK, well, why? Yeah. 1045 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,600 Is this how it makes you? Makes sense. 1046 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,800 Makes sense 'cause. That's all they're gonna see. 1047 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,280 Well, and then then the perception, you know, the 1048 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,760 projection is perception. So if you're putting it out 1049 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,240 there, then that is the perceived thing. 1050 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,480 And then that turns in to what they think that perception is 1051 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,280 actual truth, and we've got to break that as individuals, so 1052 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,680 continue to do that. I'm thinking about it here. 1053 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,360 When we had cannabis going through and getting legalized in 1054 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,200 Utah, there was one of the people who had been petitioning 1055 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,800 trying to get it to go through here. 1056 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,640 And she was up in front of the board or like in front of like 1057 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,080 the house, all of the Utah people. 1058 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,040 And she said like, fuck because she was pissed and she, like, 1059 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,760 swore at him. And I was like, I understand 1060 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,120 that you're frustrated. This is, it's the same as, like 1061 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,200 watching Trump and Biden have their little stupid arguments. 1062 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,400 And I'm like, OK, there's no real work getting done here. 1063 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,600 There's no real discussion. Like nothing's happening. 1064 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,120 It's like they just show up and start throwing shit at each 1065 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,040 other and it's like, all right, let's have a real discussion, 1066 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,360 though. Let's step back from shit 1067 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,800 flinging and just talk. Because when you get, when you 1068 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,200 get so emotionally attached and you're flinging shit, nothing's 1069 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,760 happening. No one's getting anywhere. 1070 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,840 You're just standing there all covered in shit and going, no, 1071 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,880 no, I'm mad, OK, cool. Well, like. 1072 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,960 And that's usually what we see when, like, political debates 1073 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,240 and that now I feel like it hasn't turned into like any, any 1074 00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:17,280 progressive thing that happens, any, like, real valuable 1075 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,160 movement in the discussion. It's just like flinging shit 1076 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,760 'cause everyone's mad. A lot of people just want to be 1077 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,800 right and and that's hard. And so instead of being right, 1078 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,320 what's good? You know, how can we create good 1079 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,760 for everybody instead of just thinking about? 1080 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,360 Ourselves, 'cause maybe, honestly, there's got to be. 1081 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,320 Both sides have their point, of course, but it's if that 1082 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,760 person's making that point, what is their point? 1083 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,480 And is the person on the other side? 1084 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,040 Are they even hearing him or they listening? 1085 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,200 Like, is it waiting for them to stop talking and then 1086 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,880 steamrolling them with whatever point? 1087 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,720 They're not actually listening or hearing that other side, or 1088 00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,320 the objection or whatever it is. It's just wait for it, wait for 1089 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,320 it, wait for it. Seam roll you like and it's like 1090 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:08,480 all right, it's it's the most disappointing display of like 1091 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:14,680 anything, education, humanity, like it is really disappointing 1092 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,760 to watch any of those. And I think, you know, 1093 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,240 especially with approach, for anything that people are 1094 00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:23,880 passionate about, passion is great, passion is fantastic. 1095 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,760 That's where beautiful art and all these things come from. 1096 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,040 That's where music comes from, I guess, where so much in life 1097 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,200 comes from. But if you have too much passion 1098 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,400 in moments like I feel like. I think there's a line that's no 1099 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,160 longer passion, it becomes an exception. 1100 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,960 Yeah, an obsession and and obsession can be good in many 1101 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,080 ways, but you know when it comes to the perception of cannabis 1102 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,160 and and how we can be able to create better ideas just like 1103 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,680 you said, Like when she was mad and she said fuck, all she was 1104 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,720 doing was throwing a fit and you know there's a time and place 1105 00:55:59,720 --> 00:56:02,360 for that. But when you're trying to be 1106 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,360 able to get people to see your side, you can't attack them as 1107 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,000 you just stated. Can't show up like. 1108 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,280 That yeah, you can't attack if you're trying to be able to get 1109 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,360 a point across. Your job is to motivate and 1110 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,240 inspire them to be able to look at it from a different angle. 1111 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,440 So think of. Your and you're not going to be 1112 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,240 motivational or inspirational if you're yelling at him and 1113 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:24,440 swearing at him. And that's the way that you're 1114 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,520 able to move the needle. It took me, it took like what, 1115 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,000 four years for three or four years for cannabis to get 1116 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,040 legalized in this state. Yeah, I think it was 2016 when 1117 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,400 they were pulling, getting signatures and probably about 1118 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,240 2020 by the time the program was out. 1119 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,280 Yeah, it was a while but I mean now it's it's doing well, it 1120 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,120 continues to grow. It still has some negative 1121 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,920 stipulations from those other people and the way to be able to 1122 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,120 do it is not necessarily slap them in the head going. 1123 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,800 You know, you need to see all of the evidence cause the evidence 1124 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,640 doesn't sway people. You can give them speeds and 1125 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,840 feeds and they're just going to go. 1126 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,840 But that's your perspective. That's, you know, like what we 1127 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,720 discussed about, you know, with the the head of the, the, the 1128 00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:08,640 precursor to the DEA like. Oh, he took it. 1129 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,000 Henry Anslinger. Yeah, Anslinger, where he's just 1130 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,520 like, yeah, your evidence is not my evidence, and that's why I'm 1131 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,880 gonna discount it. But the more of us are asking 1132 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,880 for cannabis. They weren't then 'cause it 1133 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,640 wasn't seen as big thing, yeah. People didn't understand it 1134 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,240 because it was it wasn't cannabis. 1135 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,880 It was marijuana. And marijuana wasn't over 1136 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,360 counter medications for the last longest time, no. 1137 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,440 So marijuana was this new scary thing that all of a sudden 1138 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,440 jumped in. So it's like now introducing 1139 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,520 cannabis again. Going cannabis has been medicine 1140 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,880 for so long. Yeah. 1141 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,040 And and it continues to be so, yeah. 1142 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,840 Hey, thanks for tuning in. Yeah, appreciate our Patreon 1143 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,880 supporters. You guys help us get this show. 1144 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,320 Keep going. For those who are listening in, 1145 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,680 share it. So get other people to listen to 1146 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,640 it. Get their minds open to cannabis 1147 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,440 and see that it doesn't always have to be a bunch of stoners 1148 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,840 having fun and just talking about stupid shit like that's 1149 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,920 fun, but I can't do it too much. Right, and if you guys have 1150 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,200 episode ideas for the sash or for cannabis, one O ones, shoot 1151 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,320 em. Over Shoot em an e-mail or go 1152 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,760 below on Spotify to the Q&A and drop a below. 1153 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,960 Yeah. All right, guys. 1154 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:20,600 Take care.