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Welcome to Cannabis School. 
I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. 

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And I'm Brandon Elder. 
And we're here to talk to you 

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about everything pertaining to 
cannabis from vape, flower, 

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edibles, strains and everything 
in between. 

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Hey everyone. 
So August 29th, 2023, the 

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Department of Human and Health 
Services proposed the bill to 

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the DEA. 
And this bill actually goes into

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something that we really want to
talk about today. 

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Now we we're really not legal on
this podcast at all, but this 

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directly effects you and I. 
Every one of us. 

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Every single one of us out there
in how we consume cannabis, how 

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cannabis is involved in our 
lives. 

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And how it will continue to in 
the future. 

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So what are we talking about 
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The rescheduling of cannabis 
versus the descheduling of 

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cannabis, right 'cause right now
the bill you mentioned or the 

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proposed bill is to reschedule 
down to schedule 3. 

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Yeah. 
And to and to kind of keep that 

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clear like schedule one, we've 
already talked about that many, 

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many, many times. 
Has zero medical well, definite.

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And and what it's not 
necessarily. 

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Value. 
It's zero medical value, but 

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highly dangerous, highly 
addictive and highly addictive. 

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Yeah. 
So they classify that one. 

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Now there are certain drugs that
are available right now that do 

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not fall on that list that are 
completely should be on that 

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list. 
Well, they moved heroin down to 

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a Schedule 2. 
Heroin has more medical value 

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now, according to the United 
States government, than 

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cannabis. 
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And and the reason why is 
because of the opioids and how 

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they can make derivatives off of
that. 

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But when we look at cannabis? 
The same with cannabis. 

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Oh totally. 
There are two cannabis derived 

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products on the market and have 
been for years. 

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Yeah the but there are few and 
far between. 

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I think they look at it where 
what what's going to be able to 

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protect the people. 
But it's really not a lot about 

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protecting. 
It's a lot about, well, it's a 

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lot about regulating control. 
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let's let's kind of go into 
that, I want to hear your 

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viewpoints on where you see the 
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Class 3, what you know. 
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had a lot of conversations about
this recently and coming up on 

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this episode and everything 
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good to have good discussions 
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But through these discussions, 
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Schedule 3 on what that means, 
on the issues that I have around

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it, and it's kind of changed. 
I will say that my perspective 

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has changed. 
With new information and new 

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data. 
I allow my mindset to change 

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what I know. 
Weird. 

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That's weird. 
How that? 

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Works totally. 
Weird. 

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Don't try that at home, kids. 
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Mind, I recommend it, but so 
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week ago, I was really not for 
rescheduling and at this point 

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I'm still not sure I am. 
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And me too. 
But, but I do see more pros in 

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it than I did before. 
Like one of the things, and we 

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kind of have bounced off this a 
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Currently, there's no across the
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We have products even in 
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that are showing up with mold, 
with pesticides, with things 

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that are harmful in it, then end
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legal states. 
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legacy market or black market, 
whatever you want to call it. 

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So increasing that product 
quality would be a massive thing

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because there would be across 
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have with alcohol, like we have 
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else. 
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how many Mon Paw shops are there
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cannabis has had to be 
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going to go into like a 32nd 
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In normal business, you can pay 
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before you pay taxes, meaning 
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that is left over because that 
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In cannabis, it's reversed. 
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everything, and then you still 
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of your rent managing expenses. 
So for a cannabis industry, they

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don't have the same budgets 
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so much more to taxes than any 
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there today. 
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kids? 
Well, that means that's why you 

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can't make a lot of money as a 
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A lot of the jobs in the 
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of money, including trimmers and
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These are very important to be 
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Have many of those companies 
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these regulatory restrictions 
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it, they would, they would go 
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and we have it. 
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that have the same prices, if 
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Yes, because ours has gone down 
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When it first started 
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75. 
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there are states that are still 
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which is insane. 
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brought up over there the 
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that the products need to be 
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One of the things that was 
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reason why this is, there's 
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The reason why is CBDCBD was 
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no regulations on the quality of
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We had gas stations, CBD, yeah. 
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those and if you happen to know 
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through a test to be able to see
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A lot of them are high in heavy 
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And their Co As are never 
accurate like everything that's 

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in the bottle dosing like 
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are in there, it's not even the 
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I used to think that Co as were 
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to go off of going, OK, that 
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actuality like majority of them,
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It's like looking on the back of
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have enough niacin or 
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Like, I don't give a shit, does 
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eat it now for everybody? 
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can't. 
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thinks about like are people 
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the box if they look at the tin?
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be for. 
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these people, they they it's so 
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It's not regulated in a way to 
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consumer and that's why we had 
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companies like crazy. 
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Because there's a lot of shit 
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And we've tried a lot. 
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have been sent to us that 
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Others. 
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the flavor's good, but the like 
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It doesn't really do what you're
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flavor's horrible and the 
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I think there's been such a wide
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sure you find. 
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And and or the business model, 
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really good product. 
I I still consider a very good 

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product. 
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But it it's business model just 
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like to be able to bring to you 
that's that's why we review the 

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products we have. 
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there when thinking about the 
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There's a lot of I I'm with 
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I don't see that this is an 
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it's just. 
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potential. 
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of it is some of the pros aren't
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potential pros. 
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depending on how they choose to 
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It's like, well, there may 
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Not that it will, but it may. 
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that up because there is a 
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that it talks about that where 
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medical marijuana industry who 
comply with state law, who would

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be shielded from federal 
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lapse or repeal these persons 
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prosecution. 
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With medical but when it comes. 
To rec users are there existing 

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already? 
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thing too with respect to 
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possession of recreational 
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If marijuana would be moved to 
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would be would remain illegal 
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subject to federal prosecution 
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law. 
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that those like we're talking 
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California, Colorado, Oklahoma, 
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sudden and now each state is a 
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this every single state that 
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cannabis is still running an 
illegal operation underneath the

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DEA. 
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One 'cause it's still federally 
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And that's where when the farm 
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loopholes. 
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passed that that had gone 
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end of his administration and he
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through. 
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it, he just. 
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administration. 
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I've learned about this too. 
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president will say and we're 
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to make it legal. 
What we've learned is that they 

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don't have any say whatsoever 
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anything that goes underneath 
the Attorney general and the DEA

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for this. 
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yesterday that this has been a 
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every, at least from the time 
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it's been a pattern. 
Elections coming up, Oh my God, 

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we're going to legalize it. 
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it. 
This is going to change. 

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And then it gets passed not as 
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the time frame. 
And nothing's happened and 

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nothing's happened. 
And then it just kind of gets 

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swept back into it. 
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that bill that nothing. 
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changes. 
They never made any active 

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decisions on. 
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and we're back in the same boat 
of excitement of like, Oh my 

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God, we might be rescheduling, 
Oh my God, we might be 

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descheduling. 
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same excitement of like holding 
over your heads of like, I got a

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treat, I got a treat, I got a 
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You're like, alright, fuck off 
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Is exactly that where we look at
what these and and this is 

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nothing new. 
This isn't new now. 

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They have been trying to pass 
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Ages. 
How long is like the? 

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Even Obama, where they 
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of all of the presidents that 
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Came in there he. 
Denied it multiple times when it

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came across his desk when 
President Trump was in his AG. 

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Who is that crazy guy from the 
South who is hardcore into this 

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religion? 
He wouldn't even look at it. 

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It sat on his desk his entire 
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When he was put out, that's when
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Did that work? 
Yeah, I just have. 

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Trying to figure out the the 
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Yeah, so cake. 
This company cake had sent us 

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this little E rig, but then 
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D8 carb. 
It was 2G just for a SEC. 

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And their COA said it was THCA. 
So I tried it until I or their 

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label on the box said THCA and I
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this doesn't doesn't seem normal
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So I read their COA and it all 
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I don't trust that at all. 

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And we tried it, we both tried 
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Did not like the experience. 
Yeah, I didn't like it either, 

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but. 
This is an E rig, so it's my own

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concentrates in here. 
I don't have to worry, but it's 

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interesting. 
Little tiny. 

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Yeah, I have no idea. 
Their runts? 

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Is that what you said? 
A thing that I did notice, this 

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seems to have the same carb 
button that the DAP X go. 

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Well, let's see if this is it. 
Is it going? 

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It doesn't look like it's on. 
Oh, it is. 

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I just have you press and hold 
it, I think. 

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So while Brandon is doing that 
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point on Delta 8. 
And here's the misnomers. 

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If the rescheduling goes through
that would get rid of your hemp 

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derived product such as HHC D8. 
These ones would be on the 

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chopping block. 
It would be. 

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Any of the like, manufactured or
they'd be gone. 

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And if it and guaranteed that 
the they would go after those 

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first before they go after any 
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have to remember that if it did 
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went through which I am not 
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that that will happen. 
But if it did go through it will

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take years for this to actually 
take place and be in effect. 

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Dispensaries would still be 
there. 

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The only thing difference is 
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these dispensaries would be much
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So you might start seeing them 
drop off sooner than later. 

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Yeah, you would start because 
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underneath the regulations, not 
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Maybe because if this changes 
the tax liability and allows the

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cannabis industry to run like 
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they're taxed, you know after 
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instead of pre business 
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Then maybe we won't see as many 
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off because their margins aren't
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that that they can maybe put 
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to match this regulatory. 
So you just hold the bottom and 

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keep holding it and then pull 
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and off of the carb one. 
That's smooth, though it gets a 

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smooth little piece. 
Right. 

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Wow, dude. 
I was not expecting that. 

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It's pretty tiny. 
I like it. 

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Dude, I like that option though.
I could just hold the button for

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power and turn it off and it 
goes fast. 

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Yeah, everything isn't that bad.
All those terps are delicious. 

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I love this Is the runt sauce 
with diamonds in it? 

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Yeah, it's delicious, These. 
Runts taste amazing, like it 

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tastes like runts. 
Right. 

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Oh, you got the citrusy notes. 
You get a lot of citrusy notes. 

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But anyway, yeah, no, I I like 
where you're going. 

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Because the the Why is it gonna 
be difficult? 

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Why is it gonna be? 
Difficult for people, but if 

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because because of that. 
What else is, what else is 

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associated with it? 
The FDA will now have to be able

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to approve all cannabis. 
Yeah, and now that's even longer

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process. 
Do you know how long it takes to

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approve anything? 
To get that in, Yeah. 

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And you think about that. 
And also, so if those do, and 

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this is something else we talked
about, is even with descheduling

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versus rescheduling, either way 
you go about it, yes. 

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I don't want to have more people
in prison for stupid shit. 

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They shouldn't. 
Do they should be. 

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Everyone should be exonerated. 
Right, For all of this cannabis 

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shit, it should just be let out.
The fact that, and even that's 

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the other thing with 
rescheduling, it doesn't 

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necessarily guarantee that 
anyone who's in prison for 

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really stupid cannabis comes out
at all like these. 

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People will still be 
incarcerated. 

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Yes, people will still be 
putting in prison and that was 

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the other thing we had talked 
about is I think rescheduling 

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does not allow, I mean 
rescheduling allows for the 

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black market to still exist. 
Well, and and even knowing about

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that, so there is an expert. 
He actually consulted everybody 

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in the world and and knowing 
this is such a big thing right 

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now because it's being brought 
up in today's day and age, we're

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not only setting the precedence 
for the United States, but 

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they're looking at this as the 
world because of the United 

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States changes their perspective
and the rescheduling of 

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cannabis, it's gonna change the 
entire world as far as their 

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market is concerned, as the UN 
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Nations underneath our 
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classification was a schedule 1 
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dangerous. 
That's the way it was scheduled.

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So that's why when we started 
that in the United States, our 

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war on drugs, all that stuff. 
Oh yeah, Cannabis wasn't illegal

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around the world until we 
started pushing it and then it 

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became, oh, the United States 
says Marijuana's bad in the 

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case, so we better do it too. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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And that's and and and going 
back, I don't want to go too far

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before we're kind of bringing 
this to light. 

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You know if if we look at with 
the FDA, what are some of the 

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things that will have to happen.
So upon FDA approval, 

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manufacturers and distributors 
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DEA and comply with regulatory 
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Schedule 3 substances in order 
to handle those products. 

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So that means that every single 
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from your bud tender to the 
trimmer, has to be registered 

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with. 
And certified to do it and. 

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What would be the requirements 
of that one? 

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It would be insane. 
They have to figure it out. 

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They don't even know how to 
manage it. 

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But you think about that like on
a certification process, when 

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somebody goes through a 
certification, they've 

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established that I have, I have 
applied education and I am at a 

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higher standard. 
It could be like going. 

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At a higher pharmacy tech, you 
would have to go through some 

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sort of education to have that 
basis of understanding on how to

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prescribe, you know, educate and
to help the people because if 

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they're putting it out as a 
medication, that's the other 

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thing we talked about is like 
descheduling versus 

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rescheduling. 
No matter which you choose, some

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big money comes into it, whether
it's pharma, whether it's 

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tobacco and alcohol, someone 
with big pockets, yeah, come 

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into it. 
And it's instantly like which 

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business has the biggest 
priority that they're going to 

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push this, you know? 
Or which one has the largest 

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budget? 
Because then they can. 

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I mean, money is the number one 
driver for these companies. 

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That's why they create the 
products. 

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I mean, the way it looks like 
there are some good things like 

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I've read about the 
possibilities and these aren't 

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probabilities. 
These are possibilities that 

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Medicaid and Medicare patients 
could be able to receive 

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compensation for that one. 
So they would receive like like 

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a SNAP card to be able to 
purchase cannabis cards at 

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medical states. 
But the problem is the wreck 

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states. 
Like, how are you going to 

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convert wreck states into 
medical states? 

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And they had taught that this 
advisor did guy who's all over 

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the world, you know where most 
of our black market comes from 

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domestically. 
It doesn't come outside of the 

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IT doesn't come from Canada, it 
doesn't come from Mexico. 

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The only people who are getting 
Mexico swag weed. 

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Is maybe Texas border. 
And San Diego. 

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No one else wants to get that. 
Well, the reason why this guy I 

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talked about, he says, you know,
the reason why they don't have 

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giant black markets coming in 
from like Mexico or anything 

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like that is because the quality
of product is so low people 

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aren't going to buy it, no. 
One's going to want it when we 

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have really good quality here. 
So we're seeing like what we had

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talked about before, we have 
craft, craft. 

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Cultivators, craft beer, craft 
everything. 

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Yeah, and now, why not have 
craft cannabis? 

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We have. 
We have been very lucky to be 

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able to get some amazing 
cannabis grows lately we were 

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able to partake of some. 
We were able to go out and 

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experience that in man. 
I'll tell you what this is some 

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amazing flower. 
It was amazing flower so 

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delicious but packed full of 
just amazing as we'll review 

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some of those strains here in 
upcoming episodes. 

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But to pull it back to this, I I
just, you know kind of 

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all-encompassing and and take 
and I want your take on this. 

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I think that the rescheduling is
just what you said. 

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It is a distraction. 
It is to make the masses feel 

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like, OK, cool because. 
Something's going to happen. 

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Yeah, like this president's 
going to make a change. 

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Please know this. 
Whoever you vote for, it doesn't

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make a difference. 
They don't decide if it's legal 

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or not. 
They don't. 

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They don't have that power. 
That's left up to the Attorney 

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General and the DEA on these on 
this. 

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Span of the Congress and 
everything. 

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Like, it's not run by the 
President anyway. 

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No, it's not there. 
There are several different 

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judiciary, they're they're 
different bodies of government. 

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But when we talk about this 
cannabis like, I don't know, 

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brother, I almost feel like I 
would rather not rock the boat 

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too much where we're at. 
I just, I agree. 

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But I hate where we're at in 
certain, certain circumstances. 

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Like, I hate the fact that from 
one state to the next in the 

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same United States that I have 
friends who. 

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Get to run in prison. 
For the same shit that I'm 

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smoking in my house, in my 
backyard, like that, I'm doing 

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freely, openly. 
And I look at that and I go, I'm

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sorry, aren't we supposed? 
Don't you have the same freedoms

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and rights according to the 
United States Constitution as a 

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human as I do? 
Yes. 

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So on that same note, I don't 
like that, I I hate that. 

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And I I think what should be 
done is not a bill that passes. 

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But if you really have a 
president that's going to try 

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and rock that boat, they should 
exonerate every single 

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individual with a with a caveat,
every single individual that has

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been convicted of a cannabis 
related crime. 

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Now if that crime is related to 
violence or selling other drugs 

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along with fentanyl, cocaine, 
heroin. 

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Something different. 
That's a different charge. 

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Total different charge. 
But if they're moving weight, 

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like you're moving 10s, hundreds
of pounds of, I mean I don't 

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know who's moving hundreds of 
pounds, but they're moving 10s 

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of pounds and that's a lot 
street value. 

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But I I got to say that it's 
it's so much better to be able 

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to get something that's Gray 
market than it would be to go 

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directly through dispensary. 
Not to say that we don't shop at

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dispensaries, we do all the 
time, but it it makes a big 

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difference. 
It makes a huge difference. 

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And the price and quality. 
I sometimes find that our 

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outside sources are way better 
than dispensaries. 

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That's because we have trusted 
outside sources who've been 

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doing it for decades and they've
got really nice indoor grow or 

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green out. 
Like, everything we get is super

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nice, but at the same time there
are people who get really shitty

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black market ones. 
Yeah, but it's it's. 

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Becoming less and less nowadays.
Unless somebody deliberately 

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like that, that video I sent 
you, that boy who dusted his 

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girlfriend's joint with fentanyl
and it killed her and he just 

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put her in her bed and dad found
her in the morning. 

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I mean, this whole investigation
had to go through like, that's 

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just shitty people doing shitty 
things. 

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But that happens I I hear about 
that. 

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Website with old. 
No, but it's usually, and this 

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is, it's not usually cannabis 
consumers, it's usually heavy 

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drug users, people who are like,
oh, you overdosed? 

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Well, we don't want to get 
busted, so we're going to go 

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drop you off here. 
You don't overdose from 

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cannabis. 
It's physically impossible to 

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overdose. 
No human has ever died from the 

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actual consumption of cannabis. 
There's been mixed or laced or 

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whatever things that have fucked
with people, but no. 

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Pre-existing morbid cannabis 
morbidity conditions, such as 

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individuals having heart attacks
on it. 

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But usually that hasn't because 
they already had power. 

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It was just but it was just an 
increase of blood pressure which

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triggered the event. 
But that could have been 

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watching porn. 
Or anything else in their thing.

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It's not necessarily saying that
it was the cannabis that caused 

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that. 
Right, exactly. 

455
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,440
But it was just associated with,
right. 

456
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,800
But that that can be done with 
anything, just like what you had

457
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,640
stated over there. 
Just because it's associated 

458
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,760
with something bad doesn't 
necessarily mean that's cannabis

459
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,120
related. 
It was just cannabis was 

460
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,680
present. 
It cannabis was the friend that 

461
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,080
didn't know that the robbery was
taking place and they were 

462
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,840
sitting in the car and then 
everybody gets in, go, go and. 

463
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,960
He goes like, oh shit. 
What? 

464
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,800
No, I was here. 
Hi. 

465
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,200
What? 
What the fuck are you guys 

466
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,280
doing? 
Why are you guys children, man? 

467
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,240
Here, take another hit. 
Put the gun away. 

468
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,960
Yeah, I I I'm with you, dude. 
I just don't. 

469
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,400
I I really hate that part. 
I hate the part that people have

470
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,960
been convicted of. 
Wait like you'll see like on the

471
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,040
Utah news and. 
Stuff, even who, any other stuff

472
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,680
moving it. 
People who are literally just 

473
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,240
consuming it. 
The end consumer where it's 

474
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,520
like, hey, this person got 
busted because they had like 10 

475
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,560
cards. 
You're telling me that person 

476
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,320
had enough for them? 
Dude, I I wonder if you know and

477
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,040
and and I don't know this fact, 
I would only assume that 

478
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,400
California has some of the best 
cannabis in the world. 

479
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,280
I I have never consumed outside 
of the state, but in the United 

480
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,800
States it is the best West 
Coast, best coast for me. 

481
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,680
I've had some really great 
Midwest strains. 

482
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,640
I've had some East Coast strains
that are really fantastic. 

483
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,720
But I'll tell you, once you've 
tried cannabis in California, 

484
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,680
you're like, yeah, but also 
being that great place of 

485
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,960
cannabis, it's probably by far 
one of the worst convictors of 

486
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:20,360
cannabis related crimes. 
I read that so marijuana close 

487
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,680
marijuana prosecutions tend to 
happen in state courts. 

488
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:29,240
So there were at least 209,000 
arrests for possession last 

489
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,560
year, according to FBI 
statistics. 

490
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,960
Do they have 209,000? 
That's nuts. 

491
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,880
In one year just for cannabis. 
And you're thinking about now 

492
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,760
this is medicinally accepted. 
Now I I really want to preface 

493
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,520
that too. 
It's recreationally accepted in 

494
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,880
areas. 
It's medicinally accepted in 

495
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,560
different areas. 
It is not legal. 

496
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,800
It is not legal by the standard.
It is illegal. 

497
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,360
Now that's up to the discretion 
of the states. 

498
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:58,600
The states actually can be able 
to decide if they want to 

499
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,040
legally prosecute them. 
So they set guidelines and 

500
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,120
balances like if you're in 
possession of X amount. 

501
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,000
Which is a statute. 
Right. 

502
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,840
And then on top of that, if you 
are in possession of non 

503
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,640
control, if if it's controlled 
substance and you have to have 

504
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,280
your prescription bottle with 
you, but you can't be smoking a 

505
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,680
joint in your car legally and 
thinking that you can't be 

506
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,080
pulled over right? 
Like you're just being stupid. 

507
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,760
I I think that, and I mean, I 
see videos on social media and 

508
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,000
online of people doing it, and 
personally, I think that's 

509
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,440
stupid. 
I would never drive in my car 

510
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,800
and smoke a joint. 
No, I. 

511
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,880
Just don't. 
No, I've I've, I mean I'm open 

512
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,840
about that. 
Like I and I rephrased that. 

513
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,960
It's not smart, necessarily 
stupid. 

514
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,160
It's you're just thinking I'm 
going to head off to this area. 

515
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,240
I'm going to puff on my pen, But
you wouldn't be rolling around 

516
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280
with a doctor dab or switch or a
bong in your car and let alone a

517
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,520
joint because that's just a red 
flag. 

518
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,440
And that's what I love about 
concentrate part products these 

519
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,200
days, is that it allows you that
opportunity to continue to use 

520
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,120
your medicinal cannabis or your 
recreational cannabis in a way 

521
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,680
that is a little bit more 
discreet and it doesn't put a 

522
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,600
big old red light on you. 
But even with these laws 

523
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,960
changing that, that's a hit. 
Dude, look at that, that's 

524
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,440
there's probably still more in 
there in your in your lungs. 

525
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,040
But looking at the schedule 
three, I think it's a nice pipe 

526
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,240
dream. 
I don't think it's something 

527
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,800
that has a lot of validity to 
it. 

528
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,120
I don't think that it will pass.
I think this will be kicked down

529
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,480
the road again, and we'll have 
to that. 

530
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,120
I I would like to see a 
president that would actually 

531
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:38,680
just exonerate those with 
nonviolent, medical with 

532
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,360
marijuana offenses. 
If they did that, dude, they're 

533
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,000
gonna get a lot of votes, 
especially within those areas. 

534
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,320
Well, it's always like, oh, this
person discharged of you and 

535
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,920
you're like, OK, but why are we 
only discharging a few? 

536
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,640
Why are we holding these other 
people at a higher standard or a

537
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,680
different standard? 
Why is there a different 

538
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,520
standard in general, like from 
human to human? 

539
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,480
Because according to the Bill of
Rights and according to the 

540
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,440
United States Constitution, you 
are the same fucking person as I

541
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,160
am. 
So your rights should be the 

542
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,760
same as mine, yeah? 
But it's. 

543
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,520
Not, no, it's not and that's not
OK. 

544
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,640
So that's why I look at it and 
I'm like I don't think the 

545
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,400
descheduling like either way 
we're allowing somewhat someone 

546
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,160
big into it. 
But where we're at is also not 

547
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,840
working because we've got broken
structures. 

548
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,960
We have people classifying it as
a schedule one with no medical 

549
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,760
value yet we've paid for the 
research for over 30 years on 

550
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:41,160
this of going, hey, how do we or
over 20 years, when was that 

551
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,800
9898 that we paid to start 
getting Israel do research. 

552
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,400
Well, it's over 20 years. 
So it's been over 20 years that 

553
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,440
we have funded the actual 
research to prove the medical 

554
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,520
benefits and yet we still hold 
this thing of going well. 

555
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,040
It has no medical value. 
We're going to put people in 

556
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,040
prison saying it has no medical 
value and we're going to 

557
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,360
restrict it in this way because 
it has no medical value. 

558
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,280
But like you should be able to 
grow this plant. 

559
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,840
I should be able to grow this 
plant. 

560
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,920
But we live in a state with 
regulations because it's, well, 

561
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,600
again, it's. 
It's also younger on the on that

562
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,200
state too. 
I mean in looking at that like 

563
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,840
medical states like the one the,
I mean I do agree with you. 

564
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320
I think that it's ridiculous 
that I shouldn't I could be able

565
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,720
to grow this plant anywhere. 
I should be able to grow it in 

566
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,520
my backyard or in AI mean I 
wouldn't want to do that. 

567
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Constitutionally, you 100% 
should. 

568
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,320
Yeah, absolutely should. 
But it's it's this regulation. 

569
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,800
It's not regulation in the law. 
It's the regulation on the money

570
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,000
and that's always what it comes 
down to. 

571
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,120
And you know, thinking about 
that though, like really we, we 

572
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,840
cut apart what we believe on, on
the the rescheduling to a 

573
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,160
scheduled three. 
The good things that they're 

574
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,520
proposing is that now it'll be a
prescription. 

575
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,000
Now some of the wonders on that 
one we had talked about and I'm 

576
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,960
like I I was under the belief 
that we'd keep dispensaries open

577
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,680
and doing that. 
But you were exactly right. 

578
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,600
If they did that and it's still 
a misnomer, we don't know 100%. 

579
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,160
It's all. 
Speculation at the moment. 

580
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,760
But for experts who've been in 
the industry for a very long 

581
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,320
time, they see it as that 
Walgreens, Rite Aid, All these 

582
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,320
places would have to be now your
dispensary which would mean that

583
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,680
if you got a prescription for 
Malawi Sunrise, which is a 

584
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,520
strain, will review Malawi 
Sunrise. 

585
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,760
If you got that you would have 
to actually have that prescribed

586
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,520
by a doctor based on your 
symptoms, your issues going on. 

587
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,440
I would prescribe we'll we'll 
give you some Alaskan Thunder 

588
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,640
fuck. 
Like, how would that 

589
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,840
conversation go? 
And I want to see that script 

590
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,640
pass. 
Oh my gosh. 

591
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,920
I want to be in the room for 
three to five milligrams of. 

592
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,680
Alaskan Thunder Fuck every three
to six. 

593
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,200
Hours until truly fucked up. 
What do? 

594
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,960
You think about like they would 
have to be. 

595
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,560
You think about pharmacists and 
pharmacies. 

596
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,440
They would have to be so 
incredibly educated. 

597
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,880
But the problem. 
Much more educated than they. 

598
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Are. 
But you think about it now, like

599
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,160
all of the strains that we had, 
and this is just my high mind 

600
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,520
going into the deep end. 
We'd see a lot of strains 

601
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,280
disappear and no longer 
available, because now we 

602
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,120
really. 
Wonder if flour would ever be 

603
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,960
available. 
I don't think so, because it 

604
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,960
would be derived down to a pill 
or to a a liquid form. 

605
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,320
And that's that is also my 
concern is like, you're taking 

606
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:31,480
away my right, my true right to 
consume my medication as I see 

607
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,280
fit. 
Now it's OK in certain instances

608
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,440
for them to go, hey, this 
manufactured pill needs to meet 

609
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,880
regulations 100 percent, 100%. 
Totally. 

610
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,440
Same with plants. 
I expect to go to the grocery 

611
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,560
store and not worry that all of 
the shit I'm going to get. 

612
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,240
I mean, obviously half of it's 
going to kill me. 

613
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,160
I expect that it's sugar, it's 
processed, it's garbage. 

614
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,720
But like for the rest of it, I 
expect to go and not have to 

615
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160
worry that there's poison spray 
on my my apple or that like, 

616
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,920
there's shit in. 
My brush, yeah. 

617
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,960
Like there's certain levels of 
requirements and standards that 

618
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,520
I expect at a grocery store that
I would expect on a flower. 

619
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,720
It's the same level of standard 
that I feel like like that 

620
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,440
should be across the board and 
that's OK. 

621
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,080
But like don't go around and 
going like, hey, you need to do 

622
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,480
this or you can't have flour. 
Like I think and obviously it's 

623
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200
all speculation. 
We have no idea what will come 

624
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640
into play. 
But there are a lot of concerns 

625
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,840
I have with that, like what is 
going to be managed? 

626
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,280
How are they going to manage it?
What products are going to 

627
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,920
disappear? 
And for those who are already 

628
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,880
home grown, do they take that 
away from you? 

629
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,320
If you've been able to provide 
your own medication for whatever

630
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,400
reason for however long are they
going to then go? 

631
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Your medication is no longer 
valid because you don't have 

632
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,040
this license that you need to 
meet regulation standards to the

633
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,240
FDA. 
Well, now to do your own home 

634
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,520
grow is what, $100,000 for the 
license should. 

635
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,480
I can't afford that. 
Exactly. 

636
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160
And and here's another thing too
that many people don't think 

637
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,400
about. 
When the Farm Bill came through,

638
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,200
what did that do that allowed us
to be able to consume CBD and 

639
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,240
CBD related products, but 
because they're hemp derived 

640
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,560
which is still underneath the 
hemp bill, that's when you get 

641
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,320
these other things plus Thca 
which is the raw form of the 

642
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,080
flower, it is not activated 
cannabis and it stays in dry 

643
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:39,520
weight of 0.3% THC. 
So with that, a lot of times if 

644
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,800
people don't think about what 
else is legal to be able to 

645
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,800
purchase right now every single 
day online and who would go out 

646
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,520
of business if this went 
through? 

647
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,640
Seeds, seed teller. 
You can buy cannabis seeds 

648
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,920
because they are not THC and you
can be able to buy those seeds 

649
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:03,120
from any type of seed farm. 
But if this bill passes, those 

650
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,080
would be illegal and completely 
dismantled. 

651
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,679
Well, it also talks about how 
many of the like D9 hemp based 

652
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,679
products would be and I think 
about that like cycling frog and

653
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,280
they're like a lot of these are 
online products, they're not 

654
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,520
sold in stores. 
Most of the time you buy them 

655
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,719
online, they're shipped direct 
to your home, it's direct to 

656
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,480
consumer with these. 
So it's it's really hard for 

657
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,040
them to manage that and like it 
would just, it would change the 

658
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,280
entire thing and 100% it will 
like and we know something has 

659
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,040
to change. 
But I feel like, unfortunately, 

660
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,280
usually the people who are 
making the decisions are the 

661
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,920
ones who truly don't put those 
types of thoughts into it. 

662
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,800
Unfortunately, like the ones in 
Congress voting on it, the ones 

663
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,360
doing, those who are like, hey, 
let's get this to the next step,

664
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,600
they're not the ones actually to
like studying it and going, 

665
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,200
here's how I understand this, 
here's how we truly help. 

666
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,600
Yeah, And and I've been thinking
a lot about this, brother. 

667
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,880
And you guys tell us if you 
think this would be a good idea.

668
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,280
But I really think that we need 
to be way more active with our 

669
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,760
voice and I think we need to be 
more involved in being able to 

670
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,360
talk to these being able to go 
and and be almost a a what's it 

671
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,080
called a voice. 
Well not just a voice but a 

672
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,640
lobbyist towards cannabis and 
and not a lobbyist where it has 

673
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,760
a backing of like hey, we want 
to make sure that this certain 

674
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,760
company can be able to produce 
this type of product like like 

675
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,320
you say it's for the. 
Consumer. 

676
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,480
It's a lobbyist for the 
consumer, for the end user of 

677
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,440
going. 
This is what we need. 

678
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,000
It really does and I think it's 
difficult because we have it. 

679
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,000
A lot of this comes back to what
we how we got started in this 

680
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,520
anyways, right because of your 
investment in there and then me 

681
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,480
on the on the business end 
looking at the company. 

682
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,080
Previous to that. 
Well, I I mean, yeah, we were 

683
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,320
both consuming cannabis, but I'm
saying like really deep into 

684
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,840
understanding the plant and what
it. 

685
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,440
Does for us, yeah. 
Because it's so crazy difficult.

686
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,400
The things that we saw in 
Oklahoma, like there was a, a, a

687
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,600
brand that had a massive 
outbreak in Oklahoma of 

688
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,120
hepatitis and where is that 
usually coming from? 

689
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,200
Usually from human waste used as
fertilizer for these plants. 

690
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,920
They had to recall and destroy 
all these things because people 

691
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,760
were getting in the hospital 
with hepatitis and all they were

692
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,480
doing was smoking some weed. 
So it's just like the 

693
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,560
regulations need to be more 
strict, but not necessarily 

694
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,280
strict on penalizing, but just 
on quality, we're gonna, we're 

695
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,800
gonna use the protection. 
For the, it's the protection. 

696
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,280
For the person using it, that's 
it. 

697
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560
That's why we why you don't see 
a lot of consumption in the 

698
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,840
black market for ship product. 
It's got to be high quality 

699
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,040
product. 
That's why you got crazy grows 

700
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,360
going everywhere on private 
property and they're selling 

701
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,040
direct because they can and 
they're going to until they're 

702
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,520
found out and I don't think 
that's OK. 

703
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,440
I think that these farmers that 
have that they should be seen as

704
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,760
the source of quality as opposed
to some brand new person coming 

705
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,240
in and saying I've got a bunch 
of investors, I want to grow 

706
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,160
cannabis because I like smoking.
And it's a cash crop. 

707
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,280
Yeah. 
So I want to get in on that 

708
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,840
total. 
Horseshit, you know, and and not

709
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,360
to to gloss over it, but I think
the declassification, if they 

710
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,280
did that, it would be the Wild 
West. 

711
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,640
It would be crazy as far as 
businesses are concerned, 

712
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,200
quality of, but the other thing 
I see from that is the quality 

713
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,400
of products coming out would be 
totally different. 

714
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,280
They still have regulation on 
alcohol though, and that could 

715
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,480
be. 
Totally. 

716
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,600
I could see that like on micro. 
Could still put across the board

717
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,720
regulation of like if you want 
this to be sold in the market 

718
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,800
anywhere. 
Then it would be and that. 

719
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,560
Has to be the safety 
requirement. 

720
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,880
That's. 
How And that would have to go 

721
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,120
underneath the FDA Right Food 
Drug Administration because the 

722
00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:59,720
it's. 
But it's. 

723
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,800
It's in between, if you really 
look at it, because anything 

724
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,640
hemp or cannabis cause cannabis 
is still considered hemp in many

725
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,280
aspects. 
My concern, like you said, is 

726
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,640
how long it takes to get 
anything approved through them. 

727
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Yeah, it takes years. 
So how is the most effective way

728
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,280
to have them do that? 
Or is it better to put in place 

729
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,040
another underlying umbrella 
underneath the FDA that is 

730
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,440
specific for this, kind of like 
how there's ATF alcohol is under

731
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,960
that, you know it's not under 
the DEA, it's ATF alcohol is 

732
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,960
handled under alcohol. 
Like I wonder if we could have a

733
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,400
different. 
ACTF. 

734
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Right. 
Or like even just alcohol, 

735
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,520
cannabis, the cannabis form 
that's like, hey, you focus on 

736
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,040
cannabis, you focus on quality, 
regulation, standards and they 

737
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,840
report up to the FDA because it 
is a separate thing still then 

738
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,760
any of those, it's still if 
they're trying to like no matter

739
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,800
what, it's still going to be a 
medicine in some states it will 

740
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,400
always be a medication. 
Hopefully the rest of the 

741
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,160
country will pull their head out
of their ass and realize that it

742
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,080
is a medication and we will have
that. 

743
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,800
Yeah, Fucking Idaho, Texas. 
Well, Texas has have medical 

744
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,640
cannabis in certain areas, but. 
Only in like they limit. 

745
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,280
It and really hard to get, OK. 
But you got like almost hemp 

746
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,920
kind because it's like, oh, you 
can't have past this percentage 

747
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,520
of THC. 
So it's all these regulations of

748
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,560
we should realize that this is a
medication. 

749
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:29,120
At this point, we should 
recognize that it's a 

750
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,880
medication. 
I think that's just it. 

751
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,960
It's it's not even the IT. 
It doesn't even go back to where

752
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,320
a lot of people will put this on
it. 

753
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,760
It's because of religious ties 
or anything like that. 

754
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,560
I think a lot of it just comes 
from the prohibition and being 

755
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,080
able to make money. 
Because even you come in like we

756
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,800
both grew up in a religion and 
that same religion has that, or 

757
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,240
we grew up with the dogma of 
like, well. 

758
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:52,720
You more so than I? 
I didn't. 

759
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,040
I didn't really. 
Marijuana was. 

760
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,520
Marijuana was bad. 
It was what was everybody. 

761
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,200
Looks. 
Exactly. 

762
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,760
But now even that same religion 
that you're in still is OK with 

763
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,200
medical cannabis when it's used 
as a medicine because it's 

764
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,840
understood that this is a plant 
from God. 

765
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Like, if you believe that this 
came from God, it's a 

766
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,400
medication. 
It's used correctly to help heal

767
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,280
and, like, do all of these 
things. 

768
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,320
So it's this weird thing to look
at and go, hey, we need to put 

769
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,440
this on it. 
Yeah, I I agree. 

770
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:31,280
I think it's really, really 
nearsighted for for anybody to 

771
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,360
be able to assume that this is 
actually going to like either 

772
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,240
way, dude, it's going to cut us 
either way if it does. 

773
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:41,200
But I I I might If I'm going to 
put a look at my crystal ball, 

774
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,480
this is a distraction. 
It's not going to pass probably.

775
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,520
I think, you know, look, if 
anything was to go forward, I 

776
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,960
think, you know, changing these 
bills, yeah, great laws. 

777
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,240
Fine. 
Let's focus on those people that

778
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:57,480
are incarcerated for nonviolent 
cannabis related crimes. 

779
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,800
Yeah, they should be out free. 
The one interesting thing though

780
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,760
is most of the other previous 
bills that have been introduced 

781
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,920
have been introduced by a 
congressman or someone else, and

782
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,400
this one was actually introduced
from. 

783
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,360
Human and health services. 
Yeah, on a recommendation from 

784
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,440
some other department. 
So this one and not it feels a 

785
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,240
little bit different because of 
that I feel like. 

786
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,440
But again, that's just my 
perspective. 

787
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,920
No, it does it. 
It definitely did. 

788
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,960
Because before it was usually an
individual, like you stated, 

789
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,200
like a congressman, a senator 
saying, hey, maybe we should, 

790
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,720
could we do this? 
And they're like, fuck off, All 

791
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:40,000
right, We'll ask later, but as a
larger department, because 

792
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,720
they're asking the and they're 
not asking the government, 

793
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,200
they're asking the DEA we need 
you to reschedule this. 

794
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,080
And this is the reason why. 
Is there more basis that like is

795
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,280
there more of a reality behind 
this one this time then? 

796
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,520
I think what it will do is it 
will change the story and it 

797
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,960
will change the opinion as far 
as in the federal government. 

798
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,360
Because before I think a lot of 
these senators and congressmen, 

799
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,520
these old whiteheads that are in
there, the reason why they 

800
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,760
they're only looking this as a 
profitability for crime because 

801
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,760
that's what cannabis was related
to, was crime related activities

802
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,520
because it was illegal. 
And it hasn't been a long time 

803
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,440
since the war on drugs. 
Before, yeah, wasn't something 

804
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,680
you should do, but I mean the 
punishment was not even anywhere

805
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,240
severe as it was when they 
started this. 

806
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,000
And this didn't start during the
Reagan era. 

807
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:35,000
This started in the 70s and 
really going after cannabis. 

808
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,920
But the idea that if we change 
these laws and they're going to 

809
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,960
be able to increase things, I 
see it the noose tightening. 

810
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,200
But at the same time, Utah is a 
legal medical state now. 

811
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Neither one of us thought that 
would happen. 

812
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,480
No, I was really, really 
surprised when we collected 

813
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,120
signatures and then you know 
Prop Two came into fruition. 

814
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,240
But we still have medical and 
that was like surprising because

815
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,760
looking at all of these other 
states that are out there that 

816
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,040
are still not legal even on the 
medical stance, like it boggles 

817
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,320
my mind because I love you guys 
in some aspects, but I feel like

818
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,600
Utah has pretty close minded 
perspectives on a lot of things.

819
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,400
I agree. 
I agree. 

820
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,240
I think it's something that 
needs to be opened up more. 

821
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:24,600
But honestly Brandon, I think 
that's something that we need to

822
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,600
be championing as well. 
So if if we have this voice, you

823
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,720
know all over the world, you 
know our, our mad love, our 

824
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:36,680
United States is 100% our 
biggest supporters in listening 

825
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,640
to us. 
And that's what we mean by 

826
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,440
supporters. 
You guys listen, you guys engage

827
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,480
with us. 
And I got to say that if we've 

828
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,640
been able to get to this far, we
continue being able to be 

829
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,240
educational. 
But we start getting more 

830
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,960
involved with these things on a 
local and on a federal level and

831
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,640
being able to, because we have a
voice to be able to talk about 

832
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,240
it where we're not. 
You mean no offense. 

833
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:03,440
We're not like these dreadlock 
Rastafarian dudes who are white 

834
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,720
living out in the Midwest. 
What? 

835
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,920
Yeah, bro. 
Need to legalize, bro. 

836
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Legalize that, man. 
But you can't just, you can't 

837
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,800
let the genie out of the bottle 
that easy. 

838
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,240
There's no way and. 
Why would it be safe? 

839
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,320
I feel like there has to be. 
We've seen too many fuck ups 

840
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,640
across the country from from 
like actual legal companies who 

841
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,240
are putting out products to sell
on the not Gray market on the 

842
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,960
actual legal market. 
We're worse to telling everybody

843
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,240
that this is a type of product 
and there's nothing in there. 

844
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:36,320
There's no THC. 
What's? 

845
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,080
In there mislabeling and like 
selling products that are not 

846
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,040
what you're telling people. 
Or the hemp flour that's been 

847
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,680
sprayed with. 
Delta 8 and it's like, cool, 

848
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,120
this is what this is. 
And you're like, no, that's just

849
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,320
anxiety. 
You're not giving anyone a 

850
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,600
quality product. 
You're it's like shitting in a 

851
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,320
bag and going, look what I got 
you. 

852
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,480
And they're like, Oh my God, 
thank you, Like, no, look at 

853
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,600
this. 
Beef Stew. 

854
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Yeah, but you it's it's this 
quality, that's all it needs it.

855
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,600
It just needs a regulation level
of quality and to go we don't 

856
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,040
need to allow, it doesn't need 
to be a big pharma thing. 

857
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,960
It doesn't need to be a big 
alcohol and tobacco. 

858
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:18,080
It needs to be like any other 
business that a business owner 

859
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,720
can run a cannabis business like
he would any other company in 

860
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,360
America. 
Agreed, agreed. 

861
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:30,400
I think it if we're able to come
to a census of more on I I would

862
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,600
say like I would like to have 
more laws per first go through 

863
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,960
on the lessening of the 
prosecution. 

864
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Oh, yes. 
Dropping it down lower, I mean 

865
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,880
even if it's a schedule one over
there like you just have to put 

866
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,120
over there, like what are the 
crimes that are related to this?

867
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,760
You know what the cannabis 
crimes are related to cannabis 

868
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,480
selling cannabis. 
Yep. 

869
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,520
Oh, this person was selling 
cannabis. 

870
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,000
OK, so you're mad because you 
didn't like. 

871
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,280
What is the issue here? 
Yeah, I mean, I'm not to say 

872
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,320
that there hasn't been violent 
people on cannabis and being 

873
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,960
violent, but, you know, that's 
just the. 

874
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,800
First majority, like most 
people, are going to be way more

875
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,280
chill, way more logical. 
Be able to, like, hear someone 

876
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,040
else's perspective that maybe 
they wouldn't. 

877
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:17,200
I think of being able to lessen 
the laws, free these people who 

878
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,760
are in there on non on 
nonviolent cannabis related 

879
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,880
crimes and by being able to 
focus more on the education for 

880
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,000
law enforcement because law 
enforcement, the more they know 

881
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,960
the less they're going to be 
able to go after it. 

882
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,720
And legislature, I think if we 
could genuinely educate 

883
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,160
legislature, yeah, 
unfortunately, I still feel like

884
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,720
most of it is like business 
money focus, even though the 

885
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:44,200
education might already be there
and the knowledge might be 

886
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,000
there, the funding and the 
backing for what they're wanting

887
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,360
and. 
That's where I wanted to go to 

888
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,680
is that if, if, if, the if the 
governing bodies so be, it could

889
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,760
be able to release funding. 
Like, if you can get $10,000 to 

890
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,560
study the mating habits of 
frogs, you should be able to 

891
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,040
have more studies done on 
cannabis on specific ailments 

892
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,720
and specific areas of the body 
the mind. 

893
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,840
That is one thing that I will 
say I would rescheduling would 

894
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:17,000
allow for right now testing of 
cannabis sucks because this is 

895
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,840
one thing that we've heard 
across the board is most of the 

896
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,480
products that they're testing 
that they get to test are like 

897
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,880
three, 5% THC. 
They're none of the products 

898
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,800
that are actually on the market 
that consumers are using. 

899
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,560
So their tests that they're 
doing are not accurate and they 

900
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,600
don't have accurate data to 
support it because they're not 

901
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,080
testing the actual things that 
are being used. 

902
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,360
It's like going here we're going
to test oranges and see and 

903
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,920
we're going to go apples. 
Give us this reaction. 

904
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,720
Well, you haven't tested apples,
you tested oranges. 

905
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,600
So you're not going to get any 
data for apples because all you 

906
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,480
tested was oranges like. 
So at least the the rescheduling

907
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,920
allows that allows them to go, 
hey, you can test these types of

908
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,240
products, you can see what the 
interactions from these doses 

909
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:05,800
are versus right now we're 
testing shit that isn't even it 

910
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,280
doesn't make sense. 
No, it really doesn't make 

911
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,400
sense. 
And I I completely agree with 

912
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,360
you. 
I'm, I'm really happy how this 

913
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,600
went because I mean I think this
is good. 

914
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,760
We we're actually more on the 
same side than we both perceived

915
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,880
before, which I kind of I wanted
to build that up by you anyways 

916
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,760
because I knew you'd be on the 
same side of many things and I 

917
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,320
would be on a lot of same side 
as you. 

918
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,560
A lot of it is like the feelings
I have from what I've observed 

919
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,400
in industries, what I've 
observed in this industries and 

920
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,320
just observations of political 
like politics and how and going 

921
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,600
I don't trust politicians. 
I don't trust them enough to go,

922
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,360
yeah, this seems like you're 
going to do good here, here, 

923
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,120
here, because where have they 
shown me that ever in the past? 

924
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,000
Could you imagine if we were 
like, in one of those seats and 

925
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,720
presenting from Utah to Mr. 
Brandon Elder? 

926
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:59,120
Oh my goodness, I'm here. 
Over there, Go. 

927
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,800
Sorry guys, my eyes are red but 
this your message still has the 

928
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,480
same touch so. 
Go listen to Cannabis School on 

929
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,400
Tuesdays. 
Yeah. 

930
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,880
And Thursday's new weather 
Thursday, Yeah. 

931
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,560
But it it's I I agree. 
I think that this this is 

932
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,360
something that is to be 
continued there's an ellipsis at

933
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,600
the end of this where we're 
going to be able to go look it 

934
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,560
it the story's still going to go
on it's going to change. 

935
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,080
I'm I'm happy to hear about many
new states are are being 

936
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,560
proposed to be able to go 
medical. 

937
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,960
I see more states going more 
medical than rec and and I I I 

938
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,960
really. 
I'm OK with that. 

939
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,880
Caught on both of. 
Them as long as you have. 

940
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,240
Like, I love California's 
medical program. 

941
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,080
Hey, why are you here? 
Well, I'm sad. 

942
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,040
OK, cool. 
Well, my eyes hurt like, you 

943
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,400
know, whatever it is. 
And. 

944
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,040
You get a way stronger, yeah. 
And you're like higher amount. 

945
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,200
Cool. 
It's like the same as going You 

946
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,080
went to the doctor, the doctor 
told you that you probably 

947
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,960
should take some more B12, some 
vitamin C and this. 

948
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,440
Well, cool. 
Do you need to have someone 

949
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,120
holding your hand for that? 
No. 

950
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:17,080
You go and you get some B12 and 
some vitamin C and you take 

951
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,600
some. 
That's it. 

952
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,720
There's nothing more to it. 
Yeah, and it should be the same 

953
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:23,440
way. 
That's how I see it. 

954
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,160
And it's like, OK, cool. 
Well, if I'm looking at this as 

955
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,320
my body has an endocannabinoid 
system, it naturally produces 

956
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,880
endocannabinoids, well, I can 
introduce other ones. 

957
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,280
Isn't that the same as any other
vitamin? 

958
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,480
Yeah. 
Or medicine that has been 

959
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,720
created by the FDA or approved 
by the FDA to allow you to feel 

960
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,120
or get a sensation from that one
that's going to benefit your 

961
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,520
health like that. 
That's the way it should be 

962
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,760
looked at and cannabis is 
definitely on that one. 

963
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,080
Now is it a cure all? 
No, as no medication is a cure. 

964
00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:00,280
It is a ability to be able to 
treat the symptom or to be able 

965
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,560
to help. 
Maintain of life and that for me

966
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,200
has been the biggest factor of 
using cannabis is I have noticed

967
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,800
my quality of life has improved 
100 times fold. 

968
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,240
Easy. 
True. 

969
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,200
Me too. 
I I feel, you know, just to 

970
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,360
become a little transparent. 
My wife and I had a conversation

971
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,080
about that and she's like, 
you're full on addicted to 

972
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,480
cannabis. 
And I'm like, oh, yeah, sure. 

973
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,960
Just like other people are 
addicted to aspirin, addicted to

974
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,640
ibuprofen because they have pain
all the time. 

975
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,120
And saying that, you know, 
cannabis is a vehicle to be able

976
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,440
to help us in many different 
ways. 

977
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,880
And it doesn't necessarily have 
to be. 

978
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,040
I don't. 
I don't use cannabis because I'm

979
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,720
just like. 
I just like the feeling. 

980
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000
But you're not high all the 
time. 

981
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,480
You are using it in a mannerable
level that it's like, cool, I 

982
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,400
have this dose because I don't 
want to be high, because I know 

983
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,400
if I am, I can't focus, I can't 
work, I can't do all the stuff 

984
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,840
that I need to do on a 
day-to-day basis. 

985
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,440
I'm not soccer mom. 
I'm not stay at home, dad. 

986
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,920
I'm the We're like, whatever you
are, most of you aren't trying 

987
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,920
to get sent to the moon. 
You're not trying to get high as

988
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,440
balls. 
You're trying to just live a 

989
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,000
better quality of life. 
Agreed. 

990
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,760
That's it. 
And so you're right, you are 

991
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,560
addicted to a better quality of 
life. 

992
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,440
Just like she takes what, Anti 
anxiety? 

993
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,240
Like some medication. 
She takes her. 

994
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,400
Medication to increase the 
quality of her life. 

995
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,120
Exactly. 
And that's the way I look. 

996
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,840
I think it should be treated as 
as equal on that one. 

997
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,760
So for those who are not open 
minded to cannabis, you have to 

998
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,960
be not open minded to a lot of 
medicine and that including 

999
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,360
Easter medicine because they're 
using a lot of plant derived 

1000
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,800
suggestions of that. 
And then you have your 

1001
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,800
naturopath doctors, which you're
going to think about anything 

1002
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,440
that's going to be plant or 
elimination? 

1003
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,160
Also, naturopathic is more 
focused on what is the 

1004
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,760
underlying issue that is 
actually causing. 

1005
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,760
Like what is your root cause? 
Most of western medication is 

1006
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,520
hey, here's some symptoms, let's
throw medication to address 

1007
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,200
these symptoms. 
It's not ever addressing the 

1008
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,360
root cause, it's just throwing 
pills at a symptom and going, 

1009
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,440
hey, let's see what this does. 
Well, now you've got more 

1010
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,280
symptoms, so now you need more 
pills. 

1011
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Yeah, that's where I I really, I
would like the, I would like a 

1012
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,960
version of this. 
And if it does pass, you know, 

1013
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,120
we'll, we'll see what comes out.
It won't be an immediate change.

1014
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,200
I mean it'll take time. 
It will take time. 

1015
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,520
It'll take a year. 
Or two to they might recognize 

1016
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,800
in that change or things like 
hey. 

1017
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,040
We need to make amendments. 
We screwed up or this won't work

1018
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,320
the way we thought. 
We have to alter and adapt 

1019
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,360
because you don't know what you 
don't know 100%. 

1020
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,840
And we realize that through all 
of this, like, how many more 

1021
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,480
times have we learned a new 
piece of information? 

1022
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,960
Yeah. 
Oh crap. 

1023
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,640
Change our. 
Perspective real quick. 

1024
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,720
Yeah, well, it's like with 
anything within cannabis, you 

1025
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:56,000
know, the more open minded you 
are about it, the more you're 

1026
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,800
gonna realize that it's just a 
different way that you can be 

1027
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,240
able to consume this product. 
It's the same way when we see it

1028
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:05,000
as a law or anything else that's
associated with it. 

1029
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,960
But all right, well to be 
continued on this, we'll follow 

1030
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,080
this closely. 
If there's any updates, we'll 

1031
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,920
let you guys know. 
Go ahead and give us your two 

1032
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,240
cents. 
We're gonna ask, like, what do 

1033
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:19,040
you guys think on rescheduling 
versus descheduling? 

1034
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,800
Comment below. 
Go hit us up on social or send 

1035
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,120
us an e-mail. 
Or even hit us up on Spotify. 

1036
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,160
If you're on there, there's an 
interact button over there and 

1037
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,680
you can leave. 
We'll have AQ and. 

1038
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,560
A. 
Send messages directly on 

1039
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,640
Spotify. 
Totally. 

1040
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,160
We'd love to hear from you. 
And you know those people who 

1041
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,600
had tried to hit us up on 
social? 

1042
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,800
Go ahead, keep doing that. 
I don't care. 

1043
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,800
Like, hit me up on social. 
I've had a lot of fans hit me up

1044
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,960
saying, hey man, I want to 
connect with you on Facebook. 

1045
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,000
Like go ahead like I don't post 
anything all the time on there, 

1046
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,280
but I I am active enough to. 
Talk to ever on my I don't ever 

1047
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,120
post stuff on my social, but. 
I'm on social I like to play 

1048
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,120
around on there just to see 
stupid shit but I'm also really 

1049
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,480
interested in hearing people's 
perspective on cannabis and and 

1050
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,240
I'm a part of several different 
groups and and I just, I like, I

1051
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:05,560
like being a family on the wall.
I don't go in there going do you

1052
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,640
know why? 
Who cares. 

1053
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,120
I'm I'm just a dude trying to be
able to figure this shit out and

1054
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,600
I don't know I I think we'll see
what happens but real quick 

1055
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,600
before we go Patreon members, 
thank you so much. 

1056
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:24,400
We love you guys we we you know 
we just had one this last week 

1057
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,360
and they said you know, yeah or 
I I can't remember her name. 

1058
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,080
I I'll, I'll I'm hang on you get
the name. 

1059
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,000
But she had stated that over 
there she says I only have $1.00

1060
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,520
to give and I'm sorry I couldn't
give you more and I thought that

1061
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,360
was awesome. 
It's like just the fact that 

1062
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,760
you're doing that shows that 
you're supporting the show and 

1063
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,160
helping us. 
We're we're trying everything we

1064
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,640
can to make sure that we can 
keep doing this. 

1065
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,560
We make this a priority. 
This is a responsibility for us.

1066
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,960
We want to keep doing this 
because you guys enjoy it. 

1067
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,960
If you guys hated it, we'd stop 
doing it. 

1068
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,280
And honestly, we love it too. 
Yeah, we totally do. 

1069
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,600
Like, there's no lie. 
We This is a guilty pleasure. 

1070
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,360
But pay attention to new 
episodes that are coming out 

1071
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,960
again. 
Stay tuned. 

1072
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,360
Catch y'all next week.