1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,080 Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,720 And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,400 about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape, flower, 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,800 edibles, strains, and everything in between. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,600 Well, welcome back to another one O 1. 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,000 We're going to talk about something that's pretty 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,680 personal. And really important. 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,000 I think so. It's something that some 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,600 cannabis users may feel, and this is might sound strange, but 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,480 they may feel embarrassed to talk about because they've got 11 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:46,480 such a strong affinity to it that they don't want to look 12 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,200 like a pussy, you know what I mean? 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,160 Because we've talked to people, they're like, no, you should 14 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:52,680 just ride it out. Ride out the uncomfortable 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:53,600 feeling. Yeah. 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Just just go through it. Just go through it. 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,680 Experience it anyway. Yeah, that's and that kind of 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,320 reminds me of kind of how you were when you were first really 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,880 getting into cannabis, like that kind of was pressed on you. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,760 Well, I also didn't know any better. 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,800 There wasn't like, hey, I didn't have the understanding of take 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,000 nine parts CBD to one part THC utilize, end use or these other 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,680 things that can really help manage that experience. 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Yeah, offset it and and today what we're talking about is, you 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,280 know, reconsidering your relationship with cannabis. 26 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:29,520 Re evaluating what that relationship looks like. 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,840 And it's not necessarily saying, you know, you should stop or you 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,760 should increase, but and, and we've talked about tea breaks 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,120 and I'm going to go into a tea break that I just recently did. 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,200 And and it wasn't, you know, we've talked about this on the 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,640 podcast before is actually when we started this podcast, I had 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,200 come off of a real bad episode of panic attacks for almost a 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,640 solid month. Oh yeah, you remember. 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,040 And that was Bubba Kush that kind of ignited it. 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,520 But there was other other factors, underlying factors, 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,160 right? And now I just came through I 37 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,680 it's been 7 days off of cannabis. 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,440 This is going to be my first time using cannabis. 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,920 I'm using the Air Vapes Legacy Pro steampunk edition. 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,920 It's pretty cool. It's like copper Levi and some 41 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:18,840 yeah. Just like a piece of leather. 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,400 Yeah, leather on it too, but it's. 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,880 Really cool, like see how it opens, right? 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,600 It just kind of opens like a coffin. 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Clicks. It's really cool style. 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,360 It heats up super fast. And you get the full temperature 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,920 control on there as well. So you can control degree by a 48 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:37,440 degree. And that was my first puff off 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:43,360 cannabis in a week. And the reason why is, is that I 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,480 got sick. And then after I was sick, I 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,560 started to feel a little bit different, a bit more anxious. 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,000 And then it got really bad. And then I started having 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,760 debilitating panic attacks. And during that time I tried 54 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,080 cannabis, like when I was having the panic attacks, I tried it 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,320 and it got worse. Yeah, it wasn't doing what it 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,480 normally would. Do no, it was, it was really 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,680 affecting me. And so that's kind of what we 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,720 want to talk about today is that there are times when you are 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:19,520 using cannabis that maybe taking a little bit of break from it 60 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,040 will allow you to be able to reset 'cause this is something I 61 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,520 don't want to get out of. My mind, maybe it's not the at 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,040 that moment in life. Maybe it's not the right tool 63 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,000 for what it is that you're needing to address at the 64 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,640 moment, right? And even though it can be a 65 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:39,680 amazing tool for so many moments and so many people, it might not 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,200 always be the perfect tool for every situation, for every 67 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,680 person. It's where I think that people 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,280 have a kind of a misconception, 'cause I hear some people like 69 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,240 I'm going to get on cannabis to help with my anxiety and I 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,160 believe it can help with anxiety, but there are times 71 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:04,480 where it is so strong that taking this could actually make 72 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,920 it worse. Yeah, I could perpetuate or push 73 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,160 that anxiety over the edge and cause panic attacks 'cause these 74 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,839 experiences that are so horrible that it really freaks you out. 75 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:21,600 Now The thing is, is I've had real bad panic attacks taking 76 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,040 too much cannabis. There was a time where I had 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,160 taking cannabis and remember that time we talked about where 78 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,840 I drove home or I had way too much here and on the road. 79 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:38,000 I was in straight panic mode. Got home, called you and you're 80 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,880 like dude, put a bunch of CBD underneath your tongue. 81 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,560 You should be good in about 1/2 hour, hour. 82 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,960 And I did that and it helped a lot. 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:50,160 However, this was way different and this has a lot to do with 84 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,120 life. I am a type 2 diabetic and I've 85 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,360 been working really hard to get it under control. 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,480 You probably seen on the podcast I've been a little heavier and 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,040 slowly losing weight and that has been really good for me. 88 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,120 My blood sugars are extremely high. 89 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,800 To tell you what high is, it's high 3 hundreds, low 4 hundreds. 90 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,320 Some are listening, going IBM, the ER. 91 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,440 It gave me a headache. That's it. 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,000 It didn't do much as far as that was concerned. 93 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:23,600 Then then I'm getting down into the high one hundreds into the 94 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,000 mid one hundreds down down to like 90 where it's normal. 95 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,120 And my body had this big fluctuation in that and it 96 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,320 changes like my heart rate and it causes a lot of stress. 97 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,480 And because of that, I've been having pretty frequent panicky 98 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,920 moments because of the blood sugar change and. 99 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,160 Such a drastic fluctuation for anything you're. 100 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Used to and on top of that, like I had a close friend of mine, 101 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,480 he'd tell me he just suffered a major heart attack. 102 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,240 He suffered a major heart attack. 103 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Like I don't understand that like it he's he's a little older 104 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,200 than me and he's having a heart attack. 105 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,360 Like I was like fuck. So that really got me. 106 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:13,000 So today I am smoking on a strain that we'll review later 107 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,760 on Cereal Milk. And he's he's been re evaluating 108 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,520 his relationship with cannabis over the last little bit, I'd 109 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,920 say not even necessarily. No, I've been re evaluating. 110 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,600 Just last week, but like looking at 'cause it's been in a 111 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,880 discussion of the last, I feel month probably of constantly 112 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,520 looking at it going man, am I using too much? 113 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Am I using too often? Am I doing this like so it's 114 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:41,640 it's a constant re evaluation and sometimes, like we were 115 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,840 talking on the phone before this, like that's probably a 116 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:49,000 good idea to do is to re evaluate your relationship with 117 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,280 cannabis every 30 days. Doesn't mean that's a tea break, 118 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,720 doesn't mean that that's change in dosing, but it's looking at 119 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,040 what your consumption is. Has it changed? 120 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Why has it changed? You know, is it situational? 121 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Is it stress, anxiety, whatever? Is it pain? 122 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,480 Is it, you know, a flare up in whatever condition that you have 123 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,720 or you know, is it the increase in the amount of times you use a 124 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,440 day? Is it increase in dose that you 125 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,120 use and looking at it and going do I need that? 126 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Can can I do less? But at the same time, for 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,920 medical users, no other medication, you'd go cold 128 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,800 Turkey, so it would make sense to taper down. 129 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,120 But even then, though, that's kind of something wanted wanted 130 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,720 to talk about. And I told you because I thought 131 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,880 that a tea break helps to be able to kind of get rid of 132 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,520 certain things. But I, I kind of feel like it's 133 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,200 bullshit because The thing is, is I didn't have any withdraw 134 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,880 feelings whatsoever. And, and to be very clear, I am 135 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,400 a habitual user of cannabis. I was smoking four to six times 136 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,560 a day, whether it's a vaporizer, a bong, or a pipe. 137 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:10,880 I was smoking frequently and it was from morning until night. 138 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,840 And that's exactly what Brandon had talked about is that now I'm 139 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,080 wondering like, if I'm consuming a lot more, maybe there's 140 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,320 something else going on. And that was some of the 141 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,880 precursors of telling my body like, hey, you're, you're doing 142 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,120 a lot more than you normally do. And it's starting to catch up 143 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,280 now. Even though I just smoked this, 144 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,640 I'm feeling OK. I'm feeling. 145 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,159 Very. It's a nice little chill. 146 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:44,840 It's such a great hybrid. It is a good experience. 147 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,560 And then we'll talk more about it on a, on a review. 148 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,880 But to be honest, it was just it, it wasn't like I was worried 149 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,120 like I'm not ever going to be able to use cannabis again. 150 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:00,880 What I was thinking was is maybe I'm using it too often and maybe 151 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,160 I need to be a little bit more choosy about when as opposed to 152 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:11,160 I'm bored or I just need something to feel anything other 153 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,360 than I'm feeling right now. And that's, that's kind of what 154 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,760 I wondered too. And I look at that and these 155 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,880 last couple days with some of the discussions we had, that's 156 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,320 really been a thought in my mind is like, OK, when I go to use, 157 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,280 why am I using it? Am I using it because I'm in 158 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,720 pain? And I'm like, hey, I need to 159 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,720 like I'm trying to take some of that edge of the paint off. 160 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,560 Am I feeling stressed? And if I am like, what's causing 161 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:38,080 that stress? Is it something that I can 162 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:43,440 address and remove that stress or like, you know, looking at it 163 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,840 from that aspect. But I I've not been perfect with 164 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,400 that, but it's been something I've been trying to incorporate 165 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,480 more because you know, what is the purpose of it? 166 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,120 It's the intent behind it. Well, and you shouldn't beat 167 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,320 yourself up about it either. You know, if you are using more, 168 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,040 it could be a sign that you are in one pain. 169 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,000 You're in a lot of pain. And it absolutely like when I'm 170 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,160 in a lot of pain, I will use that. 171 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,080 If my stomach is upset, if I have intestinal problems, I will 172 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,840 take that. It's way better than anything 173 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,600 else. It truly is. 174 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,520 It's and that's one thing. But like we'd said, like, you 175 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,160 know, do we smoke it when we play? 176 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Hell yeah. Because we're having fun. 177 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,000 We play, you know, we play video games if we do disc golf, yeah. 178 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Yeah. Absolutely. 179 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,520 But I was finding myself using it like I'm going to go to the 180 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,320 grocery store and I'll load up a bowl and take it with me and I'm 181 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,240 going to bring enough for me to bring it on the way home. 182 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,720 I'll go to work. I wouldn't do it before work. 183 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,240 After work, I'd be driving home. I'd be token on my little 184 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,200 vaporizer, right? Or on a pen or I would stop by 185 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,480 the dispo to pick up a pen because I just had to have 186 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,240 something on me. I had my pen in my pocket all 187 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,000 the time. I mean, I do. 188 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,840 I always. I know cannabis with me. 189 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,920 But The thing is, is like, if it's with me, I'm I'm just using 190 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,040 it constantly. Like I don't stop using it. 191 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,440 And we've talked about pens are candy if it's in your. 192 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,200 Pocket easy to do. Oh yeah. 193 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,880 So I feel like if I bring a vaporizer instead and a little 194 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,000 thing of flour, I'm way less likely to just pull it out. 195 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,800 It's more way more intentional. Oh, yeah. 196 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,200 When I'm carrying my vaporizer, and usually those are I'm 197 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,640 hurting and this is a yeah, no, I need I need this because I 198 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,840 hurt really bad. And this is just going to help 199 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,520 take that edge out. But otherwise, like it really is 200 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,920 with pens. Pens are just that habitual 201 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,200 candy. It's in my pocket. 202 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,400 When you're talking this morning, you're like, yeah, Nah, 203 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,200 mention something about a pen. I was like, and I went and I 204 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,800 took my pen out of my pocket because it had been in my pocket 205 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,200 all morning long and I had puffed on it several times 206 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,960 around the house. And I'm like, I wouldn't have 207 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:02,760 done that if like if it was my vaporizer, I wouldn't have gone 208 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,840 and loaded it up and done that several times. 209 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,400 Nope. It would have been way more. 210 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,840 But my, because my pen was there and it's convenient and it's 211 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,800 accessible. I just pull it out and it's 212 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,960 like, OK, cool, take a puff. Well, why? 213 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Well, I'm just doing stuff, so it's OK, but I could do stuff 214 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:22,120 without puffing on that. Yeah, and and also to kind of 215 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,960 think about the pens like when you're doing with disties 216 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:30,080 compared to a live rosin or live resin pen, I find that the 217 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,960 disties make me more panicky to get my and I mean, even though 218 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,240 they feel really good too, I'm going to be wrong. 219 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,880 That's what I got into cannabis really with was. 220 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,080 But these were like so the biggest common one at the time. 221 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,360 Well, and, and they it was cool, Yeah. 222 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,200 Like how it was convenient. Seriously, for like every, for 223 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,440 someone who is trying to get into it where your spouse 224 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,000 doesn't know or your partner doesn't know or your parents 225 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,040 don't know, that's way easy. It was the easiest way and it 226 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,240 was like, OK, well, you can try and do this, figure out, see if 227 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,760 it works because sometimes it's really hard to have that 228 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,080 discussion before you even know if it does anything for you. 229 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,280 Totally. And, and you don't realize the 230 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,000 smell of how strong it is to, because like even my wife had 231 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,640 said sometimes she's like, you know, we we'd had a discussion 232 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,480 kind of a semi argument about my usage. 233 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,560 And she's like, I don't like it that you come in smelling like, 234 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,960 like burnt flour all the time, because I'd always duck out to 235 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,640 the garage and, and get my pipe or get my little NJ arsenal 236 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:33,520 bomb. Yeah. 237 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,320 And then, you know, load the ball and be like, oh man, did I 238 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,280 just smoke that whole bowl by myself? 239 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,320 And I go, that's not that bad. And then, but I, I mean, I 240 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,200 usually do a smaller amount like the bowl you have now, it was 241 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:49,480 flush with the top. And for me, I, I typically don't 242 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,800 smoke that much, but I was, and some of the things that I, I 243 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,440 wanted to talk about that, you know, we, you may notice that 244 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,080 you're having is that I enjoy more flour to to flame to flour. 245 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,640 I know Brandon does. We talked about it, the 246 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,600 experience, it sucks, but it's it's the best experience that 247 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,080 you get. Yeah, it's way better. 248 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,440 Better than the vaporizers? It's better than the edibles. 249 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,560 Better than disties, better than droppers, better than anything 250 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,080 SO. And I was thinking about this 251 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,800 yesterday because so I rolled a big fat joint and then I talked 252 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,000 to you about it the other day that I was going to roll into 253 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,640 the end of those joints, those carbon filters. 254 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,280 How'd that go? It was amazing. 255 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,760 It was a smooth, crazy joint. It didn't even feel like I was 256 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,240 smoking a joint. Those are those same filters 257 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,880 used off of the. Happy camper. 258 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:38,920 Happy. Campers. 259 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,000 And I was like, holy cow. But it was still fame of flour 260 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,520 removes a ton of the carcinogens because of that. 261 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,720 And it was a really smooth experience. 262 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,920 I'm like, OK, but there's other other things like that you can 263 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,040 buy for your bongs. They're like Moose Labs is a 264 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,480 company that makes these filters that go over all of these 265 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,040 devices and help filter out a lot of the carcinogens. 266 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,120 So you still get the best experience, the best like and 267 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,920 it's instant when you do flame to flower like I feel sometimes 268 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,360 with the vaporizer it can be 1530 minutes to get the full 269 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,760 ride up, Yeah. Like right now I'm feeling. 270 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,800 It some flowers do that too. They settle in overtime, but 271 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,560 it's for the most part the you're there, the experience is 272 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,960 like cool, you're here. You might get a little bit of a 273 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,920 rise, but most of it's like you're where you're going to be, 274 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,200 I feel like. Oh yeah. 275 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,960 And it it just honestly like it's the best connection because 276 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,080 you're getting all the terps, all that stuff into there. 277 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,040 And I know you're getting in the vaporizer too. 278 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,960 It just feels different. It's a slower onset. 279 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,040 It the flavors are either more pronounced or kind of muted and 280 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,360 they kind of just taste like like we used to say with the 281 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,560 packs, they taste like. Like roasted peanuts. 282 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,240 Which roasted peanuts is fine, but when I'm using cannabis, 283 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,080 it's it's different. There's a connection. 284 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,920 This is something their ancestor did for a long time is being 285 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,920 able to put flame to flower and enjoy that. 286 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,360 But it was either, it was an enjoyment, whether it was pain 287 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 meds, whether it was just a spiritual journey, whatever it 288 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,600 is, he was able to experience it. 289 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,800 And even right now being a week off, and This is why I kind of 290 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,520 think that tea breaks are bullshit because I feel the same 291 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,200 as I did before. I know that cereal milk is a 292 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,400 very chill strain. I won't go further than that 293 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,600 because we'll talk about that more in a in a more dedicated 294 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,800 episode. But you know, I am quite 295 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,280 relieved to be honest because cannabis it, it's not something 296 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,320 that has to be in my life. I want it to be in my life. 297 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,160 And when it's not there certain things I'm out of sharp on. 298 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,600 And that's funny because we talked about that, right? 299 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,200 They're like, oh, short term memory loss, like yeah, but I 300 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,520 think it's just a bullshit filter 'cause there's just 301 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,680 certain things that just don't care to know when I'm. 302 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,720 Well, and it's it's really interesting because I see that 303 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,040 so many people that I know who I know have never taken any 304 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,160 prescription medications has that exact same thing where they 305 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,400 forget their train of thought what it was they were talking 306 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,480 about all of these things all the time. 307 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:17,119 So it really isn't something that I'm truly associating with 308 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,160 utilizing cannabis going, hey, this makes me forget these 309 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,880 things. No, I noticed that's a trait 310 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,680 that happens in people all the time. 311 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,880 But that that also to kind of go off that now we use cannabis 312 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,240 specifically for with intent we we have for a very long time we 313 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,120 both. Used to just. 314 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,880 Yeah, but I mean, even then though, I mean no, but I mean, 315 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,240 you try to, but even even when you're using it, you don't get 316 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,800 to the point of inebriation. You're. 317 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,520 Elevated but not inebriated. And I think that like earlier on 318 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,760 when I was using cannabis, like especially that pen, like dude, 319 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,120 I would get fucking stoned out of my mind to go mow my lawn. 320 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:57,240 Because at the beginning and this is, this is what happens. 321 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,840 And I think about, I thought about this the other day. 322 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,160 I was just on someone else's show and we were talking about 323 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,200 this because I had watched some PhD talking about it. 324 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,400 And it reminded me of when you take a tolerance break. 325 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,680 So the more you use cannabis, if you use it everyday, the CB, 326 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,840 like the receptors in your brain, there are less and less 327 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,160 of them over time. Correct. 328 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,680 So when you take a tea break, those actually come back. 329 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,440 You can get those receptors back. 330 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,440 So if it's a longer tea break, you can experience like some of 331 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,680 those initial crazy highs, but. Yeah, but again, it's 332 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,000 moderation. I mean, I I've never, I, I, I 333 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,880 wouldn't say never. I now use cannabis with intent 334 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,880 and I have. Even when I was doing it all the 335 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,240 time during the day it were smaller amounts. 336 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,840 I didn't try to take too much. But again, it was because you 337 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,040 were feeling anxious, you were feeling stressed. 338 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,360 You were there was still something. 339 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:53,840 You know, most of the time when you're like, oh, shoot, I'm 340 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,320 bored. It's this anxiousness of like, I 341 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,160 don't know what to do. I need to be doing something, 342 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,680 but I don't know what that is. But I don't want to do this. 343 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,240 I don't want to do this. Yeah. 344 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,560 And it's really hard to step outside of that and go chill. 345 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,000 Fuck out. Yeah, yeah. 346 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,960 Just chill. Like, you're OK. 347 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,920 Like, look at where you are right now. 348 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Oh, man, I'm just, I'm sitting here. 349 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,720 I got like a tree. I got like, yeah. 350 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,120 All right. Yeah, right. 351 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:23,320 Right now is is OK, but it's really hard to be right. 352 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,200 Here. To be here now. 353 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,320 And so it's like when their life is tough and there's all of this 354 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,400 crap, it's we're not here, we're here. 355 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,720 And being here is where all of the stress and the anxiety and 356 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,360 the depression comes from. Yeah, and it, it was that point 357 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,880 for me, man. Like I had broken down just last 358 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,360 Saturday. And this is if you'd listen to 359 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:55,240 us now, it was almost in May and I, I was a Saturday morning and 360 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,920 I woke up feeling it. But I was like, that's OK. 361 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,560 I'm going to go make myself some breakfast. 362 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,840 And I make myself some breakfast. 363 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,160 And before I could even eat it, it hit me, hit me so hard. 364 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,240 And this fear of having a heart attack was right there. 365 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,720 And I've had this unreasonable fear that I was going to die 366 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,840 literally because I had a friend who had a heart attack. 367 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,800 It really hurt him. Changed his life and he told me 368 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,080 all about it. And for me at that time, I was 369 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,160 thinking, fuck, I'm going to die and I don't want to die. 370 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,960 I, I've got too much responsibility, too many things 371 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,880 that I need to take care of. And it got to the point where 372 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,000 that Saturday I was, I was bawling. 373 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,400 I couldn't, I couldn't handle it and I didn't know what was going 374 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,880 to happen. And I, I had to call a doctor 375 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,560 because I'm just like, I don't, I don't know what to fucking do 376 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,160 right. And I cannabis definitely wasn't 377 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,760 helping me at the time. And, and So what I did is I was 378 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,040 able to get on certain medications to help with anxiety 379 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,360 and, and depression. And it's not necessarily the 380 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:58,920 depression, it's anxiety of life. 381 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,960 Do I want to die? Hell no. 382 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Do I feel like I'm worthless? No. 383 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,040 Do I feel that everything is overwhelming? 384 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,360 Yeah, sometimes. And it became more frequent and 385 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,280 my cannabis use was leading up to that. 386 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,520 It wasn't the cause of it. It was leading up to it. 387 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,680 You know what I mean? Yeah, when it's because that you 388 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,200 weren't still addressing it either and that it's still 389 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,440 there. And so it was just something 390 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,160 that was constant and that cannabis just, you know, 391 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,560 probably hyper fixated it in those moments and that just 392 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,760 makes it worse. Well, and it's exactly, you just 393 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,920 said it, you know, I wasn't addressing it. 394 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,680 I was addressing the underlying issue, what was going on. 395 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,000 And I can say yes, it was, you know, my diabetes, which was a 396 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,960 part of it, but it was a lot of everything going on in my life. 397 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,520 And you know, to be honest, things have been going a lot 398 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,200 better and things are are doing well. 399 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:57,040 And you know what I'm involved in now, it's been really 400 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,520 rewarding and I've been seeing a lot of good from it. 401 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,520 But at the same time, it's always in the back of my head 402 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,360 that I'm not doing enough, that I'm not good enough, that I got 403 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:08,440 to do more. And, and you know this and, and 404 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,640 many of you know this because you're dealing with the same. 405 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,640 Struggle of feeling valued or like that you bring the value or 406 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,160 all of this stuff. And yeah, it's it's the constant 407 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,120 struggle, but it's been hard. Like seeing you struggle with 408 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:26,240 that the last couple weeks, like the last week has been fucking 409 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,680 tough for you. But yeah, that is bad. 410 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,520 We were playing video games couple nights ago and I didn't 411 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,520 tell him because I didn't, you know, want to worry him. 412 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,840 But while we were playing this game I am having a full blown 413 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,840 panic attack. I was holding the controller and 414 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,760 my hands were like this. Is that why I beat you? 415 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Holy shit man, it never happens. I was like, Oh my God, this 416 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,280 fucking sucks. And I was just like, I couldn't. 417 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,840 And you were like, yeah, man, well, hey, I'm good. 418 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,000 I was like, all right, cool. And I just laid in my wife's lap 419 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,640 just like fuck. And I'm shaking, dude. 420 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,280 My, my teeth would chatter and my hands would, would vibrate 421 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:07,040 all day long. And you know, today and I, and 422 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,000 I, I was nervous about smoking today. 423 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,760 I really was nervous because I'm thinking fuck if this. 424 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,880 Was nervous for you. I've been like, it's been the 425 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,200 weirdest week. Yeah, it because we we're best 426 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,520 friends and we usually talk all the fucking. 427 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,520 Time and I'm not. And this week it's like, I know 428 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,600 you've been so crazy stressed. And not that I'm like, yeah, I 429 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,800 can't. Like I don't want to stress them 430 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,720 out. And you didn't, it just, it was 431 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,240 just everything in life. And so now, like, even, you 432 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,640 know, puffing on this was great. I feel good. 433 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,400 I don't feel, I mean, do I feel a little bit in my chest? 434 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,680 Yeah. Because it's cannabis, like your 435 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,200 blood pressure drops, it's reversed tachycardias. 436 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,640 What happens to you when you first smoke. 437 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,920 And so when your body notices this drop and noticing that 438 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,240 there's nothing really wrong. Yeah. 439 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:59,120 It increases your heart rate. And then your heart rate pumps 440 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,720 the THC through your. Body real fast and. 441 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,360 Then about 10-15 minutes it starts to level out and feel 442 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:06,960 fine. There's strains that you don't 443 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,320 feel it at all in the chest, like that new one that we got to 444 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,240 experiment with with one day we will give a name to and it was 445 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,040 amazing because it it literally took all of my panic and anxiety 446 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,360 away. Yeah, high CBG but like it. 447 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,480 Was a. Great experience. 448 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,760 So good. And it lasted hours. 449 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Yeah, one bowl list an hour. I was it was absolutely amazing. 450 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,360 And, and, but at the same time, like, you know, it's an 451 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:36,120 enjoyable thing to me. Cannabis unites so many people. 452 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:39,040 It helps so many people. Whether it, you know, I would 453 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,480 rather somebody saying, you know, I had some liquid courage, 454 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,520 saying I went out in the parking lot, puffed a little bit and got 455 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,840 out of myself, saying, why am I so fucking stressed about 456 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,280 meeting new people? Yeah. 457 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:49,400 And a lot of people do that shit. 458 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,320 Oh yeah, I do all the time. The show yesterday that I came 459 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,480 on, I actually, I puffed a little bit before, but I 460 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,880 actually took a micro dose of psilocybin because I was like, 461 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,160 yeah, I just, no, I it's been a weird month. 462 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,680 It's been a hard. Month. 463 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,440 Yeah, it's been a hard month for you too. 464 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600 And. But things are good. 465 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,800 Things are good, things are great, so. 466 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:18,160 Yeah, everything that happened with you and all that. 467 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,480 I know we're all talking cryptically. 468 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,680 If he wants to share, you can. My my dad had a crazy surgery 469 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,080 and it was he had a really high risk thing. 470 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,960 But he couldn't have made it through. 471 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,720 And it scared the shit out of everyone. 472 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,280 And the doctor didn't want to do the surgery. 473 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:39,360 And I basically rewrote his will for him, went over and added 474 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:44,000 like trust addendums and stuff for the family and like, tried 475 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,240 to spend as much time with him as I could. 476 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,440 And then he he made it out. Yeah, they pushed the surgery up 477 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,240 like a week early. And scared the. 478 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,000 Shit out of me 'cause I was like, wait, no like. 479 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,280 I haven't had enough time like you. 480 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,000 Just take a week from me maybe. And then it went great and he 481 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,640 came out and he's off being his normal crazy self walking and 482 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,920 working and doing crap and crazy bastard. 483 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,240 I know so. But it's been crazy stressful 484 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,600 and so. So during that stress, did you 485 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,080 find that you were using more cannabis or less cannabis? 486 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,360 Both. Yeah, depended, I actually. 487 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:25,880 If you remembered. Yeah, I well, I used more in 488 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,280 certain moments because I also stepped off my longboard funny 489 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,080 and twisted my knee and my. Ankle, you fucked yourself up. 490 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:35,680 So I was using like high doses, yeah. 491 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,920 I was walking with a cane for three weeks and mine, it still 492 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,920 is sore. Like it still feels really weird 493 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280 down my leg, but it's not, it doesn't hurt. 494 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:49,240 It's just like a weird twingy achy feeling now, but it's been 495 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,920 crazy. So I I've just, I used more 496 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,480 micro doses because I thought it'll help clear my headspace 497 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,840 and I am thankful for that because I have no idea what it 498 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,040 would have been like if I didn't. 499 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,080 But I definitely have utilized like more cannabis at times, but 500 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,800 then less at others because I'm like I'm spending more time with 501 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480 my dad. So I'm not using as much 502 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,840 cannabis because I'm hanging out with my dad, but at the same 503 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,200 time, I brought along my vaporizer and my dad saw me use 504 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,840 it more than I, you know, he's ever seen me consume. 505 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,080 Well, and then, but understandably so, and that's 506 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,320 another thing a bit, you know, re evaluating it. 507 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Sometimes I feel that more use is not necessarily a bad thing 508 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,280 because you are trying to be able to help your body. 509 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,440 Now, one of the things you'd brought up before, even with 510 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,920 medications, you don't just cut cold Turkey. 511 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:46,080 I will say this, I feel bad for those who have a hardcore 512 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,520 dependency on this where if they go without they feel it. 513 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,880 I did not. Now I was more preoccupied with 514 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,720 being fucking panicky all the time. 515 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,800 I think it depends on what it is 'cause I don't know if I would 516 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,760 feel. I mean, I would feel weird 517 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,600 because it is always in my system and I would feel a lot 518 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,400 more pain, but I don't know if I would on it. 519 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,680 Like, I don't feel a need to take it. 520 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,000 It's never like I need cannabis. It's like, man, I'm hurting, 521 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,640 man, I'm stressed, man, I'm whatever. 522 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,720 And I've got something. I have a tool that I know will 523 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,760 help with that because I know it helps me with that. 524 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,120 Yeah. And so for me, I look at it and 525 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,600 go, man, am I stupid if I don't go use this tool I have that 526 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,600 helps me and that's how I see it sometimes. 527 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,960 But then I also look at it and go man am I using this tool too 528 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,960 much? Like. 529 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Do I need this tool this often? And so it's just looking at it 530 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,320 differently. Like I actually through this 531 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,200 month I end up making my own THC infused lotion and I've been 532 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440 rubbing it on my leg every single day. 533 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,760 And everywhere else. Yeah, everywhere else, because 534 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,360 I'm like, I want to be soft Daddy. 535 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,440 No, it's it's been good. But I think in that I've used 536 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,680 less like smokeables. I've also been thinking about 537 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,800 making a tincture again, kind of like we've been. 538 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,760 Talking. And going, hey, would that help 539 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,720 just take like the for those who use it for stress, would a 540 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,760 tincture be great for that mild just taking the edge off through 541 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,800 the day? Oh yeah. 542 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,360 Or, you know, like we had talked about too. 543 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Like I've been noticing that I've been coughing a lot more. 544 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,600 Yeah. And wheezing sometimes, like 545 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,320 after I smoke. Like, like, you know, I hear 546 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,520 something like that and I'm like, what the. 547 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,160 Fuck. And I clear my throat real 548 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,800 quick, thinking that that's going to take care of it. 549 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,840 Taking that time off, I already noticed a difference. 550 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,640 And I'm, I'm wondering if because we talked about it a 551 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,880 little too and I think the next tincture I make, I want to 552 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,560 actually incorporate Molen into the tincture. 553 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,440 Just to kind of see how it affects. 554 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,440 To see how it will help with like any congestion or that that 555 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,960 does come from consuming cannabis. 556 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,920 Nice. Yeah, I like that. 557 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,160 I like that. But because, I mean, it's 558 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,640 something that'll help out. I mean, even right now, like I 559 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,160 feel it. I definitely feel in my head. 560 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,840 I feel great. Like I just feel so chill. 561 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,520 And I'll tell you right now it, it has made it more intense. 562 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Did it make me regret going on a tea break? 563 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,280 It was unintentional. But I thought, you know, 564 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800 sometimes maybe I don't need to use it every day. 565 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,080 And that sounds strange to me because I use it every day. 566 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,320 And so I'm just like, you know what? 567 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,480 I'm not going to give myself a hard time anymore for using it 568 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,440 every day if I do. And if I want to take a break, I 569 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,160 want to take a break. And just do what feels right for 570 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,760 you. And, you know, don't shame 571 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,560 yourself whether it's taking a break or not. 572 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Like it's, it's OK to take a break. 573 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,800 Yeah. Or or don't shame yourself 574 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,800 because you know, you've got a, a significant other that is not 575 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,080 really cool about you using. Like I met this kid at the gym, 576 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,960 you know, weeks before this happened. 577 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,840 And he was like, you know, what do you do? 578 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080 And I joke around, of course, you know, I smoke pot for a 579 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,640 living. And he was like, man, that's 580 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,440 where it's at. And he's got, like, this Brigham 581 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,280 Young University shirt, like the Mormon of Mormon churches and 582 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,320 this kids wearing it. And I was like, well, that's 583 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,480 awesome. Do you partake? 584 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120 And he goes, yeah, but I can't. I've got a fiance now. 585 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,680 And I'm like, what does that have anything to do with? 586 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,920 And he goes, well, she'd be really upset with it. 587 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,640 And I'm like, oh, so you lied to her. 588 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,600 Yeah. And the girl, it was like their 589 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,400 friend. She's like, yeah. 590 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,520 And they're like, look, if you're not going to be honest 591 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,720 with yourself or her, then dude, what's the point? 592 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,720 Like if you're using it just to have fun, I totally get it. 593 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,120 I totally. Get it still if you're if you 594 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,320 can't be honest with yourself or your partner, that's hard. 595 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,880 And then you need to re evaluate. 596 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,720 Do I need to continue doing this? 597 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,040 Do I want to continue to do it? Do I enjoy the feeling? 598 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,440 Or do I just do I do I see. Benefit and value that I'm 599 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,840 actually getting from this, right. 600 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,360 And then yeah, it might be several conversations over many 601 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,640 months or years with your partner going because like every 602 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,360 one of us, this stigma has been perpetuated through everything. 603 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,400 Oh yeah. And so it's even. 604 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840 We've talked about it. Oh hey, am I consuming too much 605 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,120 over the years all the time? Because it's like, oh, maybe I 606 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,760 should take a tea break because I feel like. 607 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760 Maybe I'm using it too much? Maybe I'm too dependent upon it. 608 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,280 Yeah. And versus just seeing it like 609 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,600 anything else? Just going to take a break and 610 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,920 that and that's OK. Like it's, it's like a diet. 611 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,160 It really is a diet. And there's certain things like 612 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,840 we get our greens every day, right? 613 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,120 And we like our greens, no big deal. 614 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,160 But at the same time, am I doing too much? 615 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,080 Maybe, But that's up for me to decide, not anybody else. 616 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,800 And so it's like, you know, kind of concluding all of this is 617 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,720 that it's OK for me to take time off with it, with feeling out. 618 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,960 I have to have it. If you struggle with pain, if, 619 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,120 if this actually helps with your anxiety, then I wouldn't stop 620 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,040 and I wouldn't, I wouldn't feel bad about it. 621 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,480 I don't need to tell anybody. I'm sorry for using more. 622 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,040 No. But it's always good just re. 623 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Maybe it's good to re evaluate what your consumption looks 624 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,520 like. Or what you're consuming, right, 625 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,840 Maybe it's maybe too much flour, maybe you're smoking way too 626 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,480 much flame to flour and you start to develop a smell around 627 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,160 you, dude, like after a while, like I, I just was not sensitive 628 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,440 to the smell of cannabis. My wife's like our closet reeks 629 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,760 and I'm like, what? Like it's in a it's, it's in a 630 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,120 box and she's like, it's still reek and then Ron's like, and 631 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,080 then days after like going and I'm like, Oh my God, it fucking 632 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,600 stinks in here. So then I got a new smell proof 633 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,160 bag, took it all away. So it's just like, you know, OK, 634 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,960 yeah, I'm, I was way more sensitive. 635 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840 I'm actually looking forward to enjoying it differently now 636 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,440 because I think I'll be a little bit more sensitive and the 637 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,480 flavors are more pronounced. It's just good every once in a 638 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,960 while, just good to clear the palate. 639 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,720 Maybe a few days, maybe a week. Yeah, some people go like a 640 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,080 whole month or a year and they're like, yeah, I'm just 641 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,080 taking it off. Well, if you really want to 642 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,800 experience that same euphoria the first times your mowing the 643 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,480 lawn got really high, you can you can take that tolerance 644 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,639 break, let those receptors come back and go experience some 645 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,960 really fun new highs again. But at the same time, be 646 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,800 cautious because that also comes with all the new fun experiences 647 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,679 that you might have started with the first time. 648 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,760 Yeah. And also on top of that, like 649 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,560 thinking that your tolerance will just magically go lower 650 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,760 because of that. That's a misconception. 651 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,600 Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean that your tolerance like 652 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,360 that you can't handle the high doses. 653 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,679 My buddy took a year off of cannabis and he came back and 654 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,440 could smoke just as much or take as many edibles. 655 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,719 And yeah, not worry about getting crazy high to the moon. 656 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,160 And it was even. Now like I mean I I smoke this 657 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,440 and I feel fine. Oh yeah, I believe that. 658 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,480 Totally fine and it's just part of it, but I, I just, you know, 659 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680 concluding on it. I really, you know, I want to 660 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,360 stress it. Do not feel bad about your 661 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,040 cannabis shoes. Don't feel like others judging. 662 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,960 You need to weigh on your decision. 663 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200 That's your decision alone. If it becomes a problem, if 664 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,200 that's getting in the way of your work or your relationships 665 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,080 or even your own productivity, yeah re evaluate it. 666 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,400 Go on. Shit, am I turning into a 667 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,280 fucking Stoner because I there's a can? 668 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,680 I function. Do I like? 669 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,680 Am I exactly steal the human or? Am IA I'm a Stoner or am IA 670 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,360 functional Stoner? And I'm a functional Stoner. 671 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,480 I can do a lot of things, I can complete a lot of tasks. 672 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,520 But if I was just staying home, getting high all the time, man, 673 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,840 I even thought about that. If I was rich, I'd. 674 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,440 Be bored I couldn't do. Something I would I would build 675 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,640 a room on my house that had ventilation to just pull it out 676 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,960 of that room all the time so nobody would know. 677 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,120 Well, my neighbors would definitely know, right? 678 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,160 But but you know, I would don't remember the house like dad 679 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,440 smoking in here. Like, fuck no. 680 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,200 Like, yeah, because I built this fucking room. 681 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,440 All right, Yep, but even that right out, like yes, I might 682 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,080 smoke, but I would still do so much because it's it's not 683 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,880 something that I can ever just sit there all day. 684 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,040 Right. But it's I don't know, just just 685 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,900 re evaluating it let. Us know if you guys are re 686 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:32,840 evaluating your relationship with cannabis or like want to 687 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,960 help with that let us know reach out. 688 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,640 Yeah, yeah. And thanks all the Patreon 689 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,320 members, you know, we love you guys. 690 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,960 We've really been, you know, we get more and more support. 691 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,280 It's not tons and it's really helping us out. 692 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,600 You know, we're actually trying to raise money up to get new 693 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,000 cameras. Our cameras are getting a little 694 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600 older, so we want to make sure that we got decent cameras to be 695 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200 able to continue making good content like we do out here. 696 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,320 And also remember that on Thursdays, the sesh drops every 697 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,040 Thursday. Now being able to see full 698 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,400 interviews sees the discussions between Brandon and I some. 699 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,640 Cool cannabis and fuse conversations So TuneIn.