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Welcome to Cannabis School. 
I'm your host, Jesse Angelus. 

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And I'm Brandon Elder, and we're
here to talk to you about 

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everything pertaining to 
cannabis from bait, flower, 

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edibles, strains and everything 
in between. 

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Hey everybody, welcome back to 
another wonderful week and we're

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going to have a fun time today. 
Brandon. 

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We've been talking about things 
that we like within the product 

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lines, from carts to vaporizers.
Yeah. 

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And. 
And things we don't like. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
I think that's one thing that a 

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lot of people have a difficult 
time when they get into 

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cannabis. 
They're like, oh, I mean, 

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there's so many brands, so many 
types of products out there. 

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I just don't know which one I 
should go with. 

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And ways to consume what 
exactly? 

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Because you go into a dispensary
and it's really not the job of 

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the bud tender kind of should 
be. 

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But it's not for them to tell 
you what brain to go with. 

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Because then they sound biased. 
But that's what you want. 

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You want somebody's biased 
opinion, but you need to look at

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the good and bad parts of it, 
right? 

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Agreed. 
My rare occasion of going to a 

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bar with some friends and I was 
like, you know, I'll go have a 

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whiskey. 
And walked up to the desk and. 

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Or the bar. 
Yes, this is a very right. 

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This actually set up as a school
shows you how often I go to 

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bars. 
So I walk up to the bar and I 

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was like, hey, I'll have some 
Glenn Fittitch. 

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And the bartender was like, you 
know, you don't want that. 

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I was like, no, no, no, you 
don't, you want this. 

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And he pulls out this Blackburn 
Scotch from Scotland. 

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And he pours me a little bit and
he's like, try this. 

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And that was the most incredible
Scotch I've ever had. 

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And if I could go to a 
dispensary, like you said, it 

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should be the job of the bud 
tender to go. 

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You're looking at this. 
You don't want that. 

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Like you're wanting it for this.
No, you want this. 

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Trust me. 
Yeah. 

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Here's why. 
Well, why shouldn't they be? 

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I mean, when I went to, I think 
it was, it was a little outside 

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Sacramento. 
I was at a wedding and there was

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a dispensary that was close to 
it that that Google Maps found 

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for me. 
And I was like, oh, sweet. 

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And it went, I mean, it was a 
nice dispensary. 

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It wasn't big by any means. 
It was very small, but it just a

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really good ambiance. 
And when I went in there and I 

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asked him, I was like, look, I'm
looking for some really good 

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pens, potent, but not. 
Destroy me and, you know, 

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something that's got a bit of 
flavor? 

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I'm looking for a sativa, and 
I'm also looking for a decent 

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indica, not too high. 
And immediately he had two 

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different types of carts. 
He's like, these are live 

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rozzins. 
He's like, here's the 

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manufacturer, here's what I like
about him, here's the taste, 

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here's kind of a feeling you're 
going to have pretty soon after 

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you're having that. 
And he's the one that introduced

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me to wild edibles. 
He's like, best edibles. 

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Because if they taste amazing, 
you don't even think that you're

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actually eating like a standard 
edible. 

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You're like, I don't know what 
that taste is, but these are 

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just wonderful and they hit you 
like a truck. 

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So by far one of the best 
experiences and and and with 

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that, it's kind of going to 
carts, because carts are by far.

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Most widely used product out 
there, one of the most discreet 

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ways to consume, right? 
I mean you can put it in your 

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pocket, you you can in your 
purse, in your backpack and you 

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can pretty much smoke it 
anywhere. 

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I would say, because long as 
you're outside. 

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Yeah. 
Well, even inside, I mean you 

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know, unless there's some laws. 
I mean I I see people all the 

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time. 
Like I was at an, I was at a 

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marketing event. 
It was a really big marketing 

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event downtown Salt Lake and I 
just walked out into the 

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courtyard took a couple puffs 
and. 

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No one's the wiser because one 
typically these cards don't have

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a really long lasting scent of 
cannabis that stays with you. 

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No, And some don't even smell 
like cannabis at all, right? 

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Some are sweet candy smelling, 
other ones have, like that one 

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we we tried out this morning. 
That one has a very distinct 

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flavor and smell, but it doesn't
smell like cannabis. 

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So when talking about those, I 
want to talk about 1 brand that 

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we've used for quite a while and
I want to go into the reasons 

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why each one of us like it and 
some of the drawbacks from it. 

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So bangers, small little white 
box just says bangers on the 

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side tells you strain, tells the
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And is it OAC or OCOACOA? 
What the hell is wrong with it? 

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COA, man, that that's probably 
that strain this morning. 

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Must have done some good stuff. 
COA. 

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Right. 
So the COA show shows COA. 

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Yeah. 
But like you said, it's. 

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It's kind packaging. 
Yeah, it is kind packaging. 

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Tell me about what? 
What is kind about it? 

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Well, they don't have so much 
waste if you've ever gone and 

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bought a ton of carts all at 
once and you go home and you're 

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throwing away all the waste. 
You end up with a garbage bag 

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full of the boxes, the plastic, 
all of the just cool looking 

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packaging that really at the end
of the day is just garbage. 

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Oh absolutely. 
I mean going into packaging, if 

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we've got to tell you to be 
responsible with your cannabis 

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use, there's a reason why they 
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some of these cannabis products 
because that's the dumbest thing

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ever, because I could rip that 
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And I've done it many times 
where I'm like, you can't figure

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this stupid piece of shit out 
and it gets really frustrating. 

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But when you're talking about 
extra waste, like plastic ones 

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are really cool looking, you 
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It looks like Chinese cut finger
cuffs and you have to, like, 

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pray to it or do these weird 
magic animal sacrifice. 

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Yeah, and all of a sudden it 
pops up and you're like, poof. 

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There's my Blue Dream, no. 
And that's what's so wonderful 

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about their packaging. 
It's super small. 

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It's barely the size of the 
product that you're going to be 

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attaching to whatever you're 
using to vape off. 

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It's it's discrete. 
Now let's talk about the other 

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parts about it. 
One is the consistency. 

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You get the standard white tip, 
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that's key and the reason why I 
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there as opposed to just the 
standard metal coil. 

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Is that the flavor is a lot 
better on these? 

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Well, and it's much better even 
for being a distillate. 

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I'm not as big of a fan of 
distillate carts. 

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Neither am I. 
But we're being a distillate 

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experience. 
These are probably one of the 

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better ones that I've found 
still, and I would attribute 

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that to this ratman. 
You can see it too. 

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That's the one thing I love 
about it, is that there's no 

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trickery on that. 
I don't need a bunch of, like 

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stickers or shit that says, you 
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Always, always, always. 
You can tell if there's 

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something wrong with your cart. 
It's always been good. 

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And I don't ever get in these 
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Sometimes the other car, the 
black burnt oil almost coming 

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back up in it. 
You see, I never get this with 

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these. 
Yeah, even if it's upside down 

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in your pocket and you will get 
clogs. 

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Let's just be honest about it. 
Most carts, you're gonna get 

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clogs. 
But this one's not terrible 

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though. 
Nope. 

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The fingers are nowhere near as 
bad as a lot of Heather carts. 

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I know sash pens. 
Every time I use a sash pen, 

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they clog like crazy, which I'd 
never use a sash pen. 

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You probably have. 
It's just been a while. 

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We got him out of Denver a while
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I remember. 
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about. 
So I mean bangers are none love 

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them have That's the reason why 
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Yeah. 
You've had a recent experience 

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with Stizzy. 
Tell them tell us a little bit 

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more about that. 
So Stizzy is a very unique. 

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Well, I don't know if you can 
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discreet, very small. 
I would say it's about half of a

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if you if if you still find 
them, you know those small like 

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5 pieces of sticks of gum like 
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something like that. 
Do they make that anymore? 

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Yeah, they stole, they totally 
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I haven't seen the small 
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ones, it's about the size of 
that slightly longer than a pack

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of gum. 
But about the same width and the

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same thickness of just maybe 4 
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The cool part is the pod is on 
top and it's it's magnetic like 

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most carts are. 
Well, not most carts There there

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are certain batteries that you 
can buy that have a magnetic 

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end, but a lot of the pods, 
right? 

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The pods are all magnetic. 
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Stizzy was, is that it? 
No clogs. 

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That was nice because every 
other like even the KR T's were 

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terrible. 
Out of that one gram card, I'd 

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say probably half of that was a 
waste. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
But I would say more than 1/4 of

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that cart was wasted trying to 
pull through. 

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Yeah, it's just awful, awful 
design. 

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But the the Stizzy is really 
cool in that one. 

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Flavor wise I had a live rosin 
trying to remember what it was. 

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Something breath. 
But it was it was good. 

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It was really decent. 
Now negatives. 

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The battery burns out super 
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Can you get through a day? 
No, you can't even go all day 

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without having to charge it. 
And maybe I just had a shitty 

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battery. 
But I'll tell you right now, it 

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is not one of my most 
recommended brands for a unique 

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cart. 
Why I like bangers so much is 

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that it's standard. 
I can buy a battery. 

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Anywhere I can buy an $8 
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Doesn't matter, I can use it 
with anything it screws on. 

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Just like that Spizzy, there's 
510 threads. 

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I love that right? 
It's easy, it's common. 

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Why you making me work so hard 
for it And the Stizzy though? 

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It's $50.00 for the battery and 
it doesn't last long. 

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It's got this cool magnetic 
thing. 

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Stizzy is nice, but it is 
inconvenient at the same time. 

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That's my feeling. 
You were saying? 

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It always has to be reset 
because it just Oh yeah, I 

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forgot about. 
So when I put it in my pocket, I

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I have a friend, he likes to 
keep it around his neck. 

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Cool. 
I'm like a lanyard, right? 

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Yeah. 
And he tucks it underneath his 

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shirt. 
It can be in my pocket. 

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Hell, it could even be in my 
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put my cards throughout the day.
That's just weird one, but I got

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to charge it all the time. 
And like you were saying, I had 

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to pick it up and reseed it 
every single time I wanted to 

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take a pole off of it. 
Because I'd take a pole off of 

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it and the bottom would light 
up, Which was cool to let me 

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know that there is power, but it
wasn't connected for some reason

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or another, so I had to pick it 
up, drop it in there. 

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Very small inconvenience, but 
again. 

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Taking my banger, screw it on. 
As long as I have power in my 

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battery it will work. 
Yeah, it's really simple. 

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But it's that 510 thread thing. 
It's just it's totally different

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than having a all in one system 
or the pods ones any of the 

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pods. 
I had one from Denver years ago.

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It was a refillable pod system 
that one was battery would die, 

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would not last me all day. 
And I would. 

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It would clog all the time. 
I would lose about half the 

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product in there every single 
time I used it. 

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Yeah, it sounds just like the 
Krts that we had. 

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Yeah, man, those were all 
horrible experience. 

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I love the design. 
Like, very simple. 

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Yeah. 
It looks like a miniature fire 

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stick. 
Yeah. 

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Or a USB, like a Yeah. 
It looked like a USB drive. 

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Yeah, really small, just clog 
even. 

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We left it standing upright all 
the time because it clogged and.

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Even sitting up, Yeah, you're 
like, OK, it's inside, it's not 

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hot. 
It's not even gravity. 

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I think what it is is it's 
probably the battery that is set

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inside of that with the coils, 
and the coils remain hot for a 

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while after, which is really 
strange. 

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And that's to the metal ones, 
like these ceramics are awesome 

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because it it cools off almost 
as quickly as it heats up. 

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Yeah, they're pretty quick. 
Do enjoy that other carts 

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though. 
A lot of you know what I miss 

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there. 
There've been a handful of carts

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that we've seen that have the 
vents on the very bottom. 

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Ohh yeah, I haven't seen that in
a while. 

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I haven't either. 
But every time I do, those ones 

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actually are able to use all of 
the product in the pen, which I 

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thoroughly enjoy because I hate 
using a pen and getting to the 

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bottom or the bottom. 
And there's a bunch of product 

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left, but I can't get it out of 
the cart and it's like, well 

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alright, checking that one. 
Yeah, on to the next. 

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You know, again, I'm going to go
back there. 

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Big big awesome slap on the back
or thumbs up or maybe one of the

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hang loose signs to bangers 
every single time. 

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I can use all the product. 
Don't have very many clogs. 

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Flavor profile is really nice. 
And I typically get the same 

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experience. 
I I know the kind of experience 

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I'm going to have and that goes 
to even the thickness of oil 

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that's in this one. 
If you've noticed that there's 

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certain types of, I mean, look, 
I've got this cart in front of 

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me and I'm tipping it and it's 
moving, that's fine. 

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But I've had carts where that 
stuff is sloshing in there like 

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it's olive oil, it's just 
moving, it's really thin and and

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that's something else to look at
the carts is. 

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Tip 'em. 
See if you could be able to see 

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inside of there. 
The bubbles move a little slow. 

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That's awesome. 
If it doesn't move at all, 

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that's usually indicative of, 
like a lot of vitamin E used. 

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That's what those black market 
carts were being. 

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No, no, they were crazy moving 
'cause they were ohh yeah, 

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vitamin E is super thin. 
Liquidy. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
The bubbles just flow. 

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You like tip it upside down. 
You're like ohh the watch the 

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bubble go took it the other way.
It goes right back from carts. 

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Kind of want to move into our 
flower. 

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My least favorite way to consume
ever is a spliff. 

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What's a spliff? 
A spliff is like those. 

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They buy those cigarillos, 
little tiny rolled cigars. 

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They cut them out and they take 
out half of the tobacco and then

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they feel the other half with 
cannabis and then you end up 

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with just a really gross. 
Feeling mostly, 'cause I don't 

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enjoy the feeling of nicotine at
all. 

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Yeah, I mean, you know, some 
people like that. 

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That's cool. 
Yeah, everyone's got their cup 

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of tea or tobacco. 
But I I've had some really good 

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blunts back in the day. 
I don't know, I I used to enjoy 

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that nicotine feel, but the only
thing I would say is now with 

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vape. 
Uh, way better way to consume 

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nicotine. 
Not my favorite. 

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I don't like the feeling of 
nicotine. 

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I don't like the anxiousness I 
get from. 

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It's completely different from 
like a like a cannabis sativa 

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feel of of always having that, 
like that's how I feel on it. 

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So not a big fan, that's just my
personal opinion. 

285
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Joints are always nice. 
Yeah, nicotine, really. 

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I don't enjoy that experience. 
Even blunts. 

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I get it like I've enjoyed some 
blunts in my time, but at the 

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same time. 
But I've thoroughly enjoyed like

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the King Palm, Palm Leaf Wrap 
blunts. 

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Those are nice or even temporal.
Raw. 

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I don't mind to join every once 
in a while, regardless of 

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whatever it's rolled in it. 
Other than like a cigar, you 

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know, a swish or sweet if you 
want to get really, you know. 

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If that's your jam, cool, not 
mine. 

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I still feel like I waste so 
much more flour when I smoke a 

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joy because it's just sitting 
there. 

297
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Look at all my cannabis. 
Man, I could be smoking that. 

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So I do. 
I just, I don't do joints like I

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used to. 
No, you don't. 

300
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I remember you used to roll 
quite a bit and and I I don't 

301
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ever really unless you know 
maybe it's socially somebody's 

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like, hey I've got one of these 
and I'm like wow, we're going 

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back in the day. 
But that that's perfect going in

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going from what we just talked 
about there because want to talk

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about vaporizers, handheld 
vaporizers. 

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Real cool ones you can have at 
home yeah. 

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Desktop vaporizers wanting using
extracts or and or flower but I 

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want to go into the flower 
vaporizers we we got a while 

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back. 
We had a amazing company that 

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sent us out a product to try out
and I got to say it's my go to. 

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It's probably by far my first go
to. 

312
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I don't even like I used to 
really like carts. 

313
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I don't like cards as much 
anymore. 

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Feel like the card experience 
doesn't give you the full flower

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experience. 
And so even since you got back 

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into that and really figured out
the packs, I have really picked 

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mine up as well and I've been 
using that thing like crazy. 

318
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Yeah, I use less flower. 
I still have the same experience

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for the most part. 
Yeah, for the most part. 

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And like I actually turned. 
All of my decarbed flour at the 

321
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end into just a teen sugar the 
other day. 

322
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Oh yeah, that's right. 
See, that's what's great about 

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the packs and and some of the 
things that you you just 

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mentioned. 
I went through because one of 

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the problems that I have with 
the packs at first was I felt 

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like I had to pack that bowl 
like tight. 

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Yeah, I want to get as much 
flour in there as I can and I 

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didn't get a great experience. 
I would say I would get. 

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Around, I don't know I I what we
do now it would be like using a 

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quarter of a bowl now and less 
so that's the thing, it's it's 

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not filling it to the brim where
you got it because you've got in

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the packs three you have three 
different attachments over 

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there, one for extracts, one for
bigger bowl and one for a 

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smaller bowl and I use the 
smaller one and that lasts good 

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2025 minutes a week. 
We had that one time where we 

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were venturing somewhere and we 
used it. 

337
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For how long do we use it for 30
minutes? 

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40 minutes? 
Maybe It was about 30 minutes, 

339
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yeah. 
And we smoked on that, the whole

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thing, like we kept passing it 
back and forth and we were very 

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good. 
Yeah, I was quite surprised. 

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But it's been awesome, right? 
So it's a it's a light pack. 

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So we get these little zip fizz 
pods you get like at Costco or 

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anything like that. 
And I used to drink them, but I 

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haven't had caffeine for a 
really long time. 

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So I have a shit load of these. 
And so I just dumped them out. 

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And I was thinking, wow, 
wouldn't it be great to just put

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some ground flour in there? 
So that's what they did. 

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And it seals nice. 
I mean, it's a tight seal. 

350
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:21,030
Yeah, they're like smell proof. 
Yeah, you can't smell anything. 

351
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And I use that to fill up my 
packs. 

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It's perfect. 
Pop the top and I just tap it 

353
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and the right amount falls in 
there. 

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And then when you put it on 
there, you start it up. 

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Now we'll go green. 
It'll vibrate and go green. 

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When it lets you know, hey, you 
know, it's all ready to go. 

357
00:20:36,290 --> 00:20:39,170
If you have an Android phone, it
will link up with it. 

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00:20:39,570 --> 00:20:42,570
If you have an apple, well, 
Apple hates cannabis, so 

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whatever. 
Which is weird because I'm 

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00:20:45,970 --> 00:20:50,050
pretty sure Steve Jobs is in 
like psychedelics and admitted 

361
00:20:50,050 --> 00:20:52,930
to using cannabis, so. 
What the hell happened? 

362
00:20:52,930 --> 00:20:55,210
Well, it's a Tim Cookism. 
Yeah, with the game, it's a 

363
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cookism. 
But it's been a great piece. 

364
00:20:59,410 --> 00:21:01,730
The Da Vinci neither of us have 
used. 

365
00:21:01,770 --> 00:21:03,250
I have a friend who's used the 
Da Vinci. 

366
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I've heard good things about it.
I've heard bad things, really. 

367
00:21:06,490 --> 00:21:08,970
So hit me with a good Wait a 
minute before we go into that 

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one on the packs one before. 
I say that even when it gets 

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green, you want to wait about 30
seconds to another minute before

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you start consuming. 
And you can make a small amount 

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of cannabis go a very long way 
with the packs. 

372
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But the Da Vinci, tell me what 
good things you've heard about 

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it. 
I just watched a video 

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comparisons and people were 
saying that the convection, like

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the oven is more even baking 
than the packs, that like the 

376
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battery life was longer. 
I think that's really. 

377
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,920
Yeah, I've heard that. 
And this is coming from somebody

378
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,080
that uses this daily. 
Yeah. 

379
00:21:48,990 --> 00:21:53,190
He can't. 
The bowls are so tiny that he 

380
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has to go through two bowls in 
one session. 

381
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Unlike the packs, the packs has 
a larger area, but I think the 

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reason why it's so much, and 
this is just a personal opinion,

383
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I haven't tried to do Da Vinci, 
I need to, but what I like about

384
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the about the packs beyond that 
one is that there's a lot more 

385
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airflow. 
And the Da Vinci, for the price 

386
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it's at, honestly I would spend 
a little bit more and get a 

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packs because the packs is going
to be a little bit more than da 

388
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Vinci. 
But the Da Vinci just on battery

389
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years, he says it's decent but 
the bowl is so tiny and there's 

390
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just one bowl. 
It's not like the packs 3 where 

391
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I have options to be able to 
change it up how much flour do I

392
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want because I've done the full 
pack, the the full thing on the 

393
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packs. 
That's more of a community 

394
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thing, that's I'm camping and 
I'm passing this around to like 

395
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5 friends. 
I guarantee we get everybody 

396
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there. 
Pretty baked off of a big bowl 

397
00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:00,110
in the packs. 
But the Da Vinci is very small. 

398
00:23:00,110 --> 00:23:04,030
I've seen it, it's not impressed
and it it's a bitch to clean. 

399
00:23:04,150 --> 00:23:05,990
That's what he said. 
He hates cleaning it. 

400
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:08,190
Yeah, the packs is pretty 
simple. 

401
00:23:08,190 --> 00:23:11,690
I do enjoy that part. 
That aspect is pretty nice. 

402
00:23:11,770 --> 00:23:15,610
I know we're like not hugging on
on packs here, but they make a 

403
00:23:15,610 --> 00:23:19,730
pretty damn good product for a 
small vaporizer. 

404
00:23:20,210 --> 00:23:22,890
It's like super handy. 
I'd say it's like the role of a 

405
00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:25,690
lifesaver side. 
Like, yeah, just slightly 

406
00:23:25,690 --> 00:23:29,210
bigger. 
Yeah, but I mean and and if 

407
00:23:29,210 --> 00:23:33,610
you're in the winter time and 
you're smoking outside, cuz 

408
00:23:33,610 --> 00:23:36,130
you're not a savage smoking in 
your house. 

409
00:23:37,230 --> 00:23:40,630
I would say that it gets really 
nice and warm, but not too hot. 

410
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:42,870
Yeah, it is nice. 
You can hold it in there and 

411
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:47,870
keep your hands toasty. 
So we talked about that with the

412
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Da Vinci. 
Now I want to go into one that 

413
00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:53,310
has been asked of us several 
times. 

414
00:23:53,950 --> 00:23:56,430
I have never used it and then 
that. 

415
00:23:56,510 --> 00:23:59,190
That's a caution. 
I have never used it personally,

416
00:23:59,190 --> 00:24:04,190
but after being able to hold it 
at a cannabis conference. 

417
00:24:05,170 --> 00:24:07,050
I was really turned off by the 
Mighty Plus. 

418
00:24:07,810 --> 00:24:10,170
Oh, it is massive. 
Yeah. 

419
00:24:10,530 --> 00:24:14,410
Then the stand that they say the
little fins that pop out super 

420
00:24:14,410 --> 00:24:16,770
tiny look like they'd probably 
snap right off. 

421
00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:21,330
But for someone who likes to be 
portable with their cannabis, 

422
00:24:21,330 --> 00:24:24,210
how am I supposed to put that in
my pocket when I don't wear 

423
00:24:24,290 --> 00:24:27,090
Jenco jeans? 
Well, it looks like the size of 

424
00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:31,140
like an old. 
External hard drive. 

425
00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:34,380
It's probably about the same 
thickness of a standard external

426
00:24:34,380 --> 00:24:36,820
hard drive these days. 
You would need one of those 

427
00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:40,420
weird hipster Fanny packs in 
order to just carry this shit 

428
00:24:40,420 --> 00:24:42,140
around. 
Yeah, it doesn't. 

429
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:45,220
It doesn't hold a charge, right?
It actually has to plug into the

430
00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:53,020
wall for that would be really 
bad, but I did see the Crafty 

431
00:24:53,020 --> 00:24:58,100
Plus or the Crafty is actually. 
A decent size though I haven't. 

432
00:24:58,420 --> 00:25:01,300
I haven't heard of the Crafty, 
so it's made by stores and 

433
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:03,860
Bickle as well. 
And for those who aren't 

434
00:25:03,860 --> 00:25:07,980
familiar stores and Bickle makes
the Mighty plus the Crafty and 

435
00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:11,900
the Volcano stores. 
And Bickle sounds like the the 

436
00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:14,940
Abercrombie and Fitch of 
cannabis. 

437
00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:18,660
Yeah, yeah, I mean they are a 
little bit overpriced, I feel. 

438
00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:22,980
I agree. 
I've used the Volcano and it's a

439
00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,460
great piece. 
I wouldn't say it's like. 

440
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,380
Six $700.00 worth of a great 
piece. 

441
00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:32,900
No, it's, I mean, it's good, but
what you're getting, it's cool. 

442
00:25:33,780 --> 00:25:40,180
There's another desktop 
vaporizer that is really cool as

443
00:25:40,180 --> 00:25:42,060
well. 
It's just a little bit different

444
00:25:42,060 --> 00:25:50,860
than the than the volcano. 
So it has more of the whip, 

445
00:25:51,660 --> 00:25:56,860
which is just the like a hose. 
That you pull on and so it just 

446
00:25:56,860 --> 00:26:00,500
blows out the vapor and you just
kind of like, inhale the vapor 

447
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:04,860
that it blows out. 
That one is is like, hang on, 

448
00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:07,540
I'm pulling it up right now. 
So that one's actually called 

449
00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:12,220
the titanium vaporizer, and 
they're about $300.00. 

450
00:26:12,860 --> 00:26:18,940
So the original volcano, like 
the OG one, is still 479, like 

451
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:22,430
500 bucks, Yeah. 
The new one that's the hybrid 

452
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:25,910
that you can do extracts and 
flour with is about $700.00. 

453
00:26:26,510 --> 00:26:31,590
So the titanium vaporizer. 
I don't know if it does extracts

454
00:26:31,670 --> 00:26:36,590
and flour, but it does do flour.
It doesn't have the bag, but it 

455
00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:39,830
wouldn't be hard to look online 
and find a bag that would attach

456
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:44,790
to the hose if you really wanted
that bag style to pass around. 

457
00:26:45,630 --> 00:26:47,510
Aside from that, this is 
actually got. 

458
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,680
Crazy good reviews, really cool 
looking like wood piece. 

459
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,160
And supposedly the flavor 
profiles on it are really good 

460
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,440
because that is the one thing I 
will give the volcano is it's 

461
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,160
probably the best flavor I've 
had on a desktop vaporizer. 

462
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,280
So out of stores and bickles, 
you'd say that that was by far 

463
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,440
one of the best. 
I think the price is completely 

464
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,200
outrageous. 
It feels like it. 

465
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Yeah, think about today and 
what's going on in the world. 

466
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,230
That's. 
Pretty hard to decide. 

467
00:27:19,710 --> 00:27:23,550
I'm gonna spend that much money 
on consuming it through that. 

468
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:27,710
I just don't think that it 
offers enough for the price that

469
00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:29,630
it's asking for. 
You see what I'm saying? 

470
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:33,710
Honestly, if I was going to do 
that, I'd probably get like the 

471
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:37,830
titanium vaporizer and the 
doctor diver switch. 

472
00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:39,910
Well, you're going ahead too 
quickly. 

473
00:27:40,110 --> 00:27:41,790
I know. 
We gotta go back, so let's let's

474
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:43,790
back it up to what we were 
originally. 

475
00:27:43,790 --> 00:27:46,930
So the mighty plus. 
The size is huge. 

476
00:27:47,010 --> 00:27:49,130
From what we saw. 
The bowl is tiny. 

477
00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:52,450
Yeah, it doesn't. 
It's got a mesh screen in there.

478
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:56,730
The bowl is the mesh screen, 
which I get for airflow, but at 

479
00:27:56,730 --> 00:28:00,250
the same time that looks like a 
pain in the ass to clean. 

480
00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:03,650
Yeah, I guess we'd have to tear 
everyone apart and see how it 

481
00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:07,650
how easy it is to clean. 
But if you guys have tell us, 

482
00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:11,050
throw it in the notes, send us 
an e-mail 4 inches across and 

483
00:28:11,410 --> 00:28:15,600
about 5 inches, 6 inches tall. 
And it's probably about an inch 

484
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,200
thick. 
It's a beast. 

485
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,440
It is. 
Now the cool part about it, 

486
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,040
that's what stated, is you can 
be able to lower the 

487
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,840
temperature, increase the 
temperature that would be for 

488
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,080
your more snobbish users of 
cannabis and and and if you are 

489
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,000
snob, that's totally fine, we're
snobs. 

490
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,000
But that just seems like a bit 
much. 

491
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,840
The biggest turnoff for me is 
that I can't set it down, I have

492
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,490
to put it on its side. 
It doesn't matter, but you can 

493
00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:48,490
also do extracts in there and I 
don't think that would be very 

494
00:28:48,610 --> 00:28:49,770
good. 
I think that thing would get 

495
00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:51,730
dirty as hell just setting it 
down. 

496
00:28:51,970 --> 00:28:56,610
If I was using wax, yeah, I feel
like it would get super dirty 

497
00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:58,370
too. 
I would feel like you couldn't 

498
00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:02,010
use the same mesh thing though. 
You would have to have like a 

499
00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:03,930
ceramic bowl or something 
different. 

500
00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:08,750
What's the price on that? 
On the money plus, I want to say

501
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:11,550
that it is it is like close to 
$400.00. 

502
00:29:11,670 --> 00:29:14,150
I think it is 400 but we're 
going to pull it up right now 

503
00:29:14,150 --> 00:29:19,070
for something 0399. 
So it is $400.00 for that. 

504
00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:20,910
Yep. 
I mean, don't get me wrong 

505
00:29:20,910 --> 00:29:25,830
stores in big will make some 
good products, but I I've not 

506
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:29,790
tested this one and just from 
the size alone they turn off. 

507
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:33,870
Yeah, I'm not going to use it 
just as a desktop vaporizer for 

508
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:36,640
$400. 
I'd get a different one, yeah. 

509
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,280
And it's not portable for me. 
So yeah, I don't like 

510
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,080
complexity. 
With my portable vaporizer, I 

511
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840
don't need all of that other 
randomness. 

512
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,880
What I've really enjoyed about 
the packs, it's easy to turn on,

513
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,720
It's easy to turn off. 
It has a great kind of like a 

514
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,640
neutral mode, if you've noticed.
Yeah, it goes into resting mode 

515
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,560
when you're not using it. 
I don't need to set it that way.

516
00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:08,150
Now the Mighty Plus may be able 
to do that, but I don't need to 

517
00:30:08,150 --> 00:30:11,030
bring my temperature up to 500 
degrees to be able to get the 

518
00:30:11,030 --> 00:30:15,870
last bit of TUC out of it. 
Maybe if I was on a super tight 

519
00:30:15,870 --> 00:30:19,670
budget and but then again, if I 
was on a tight budget, what the 

520
00:30:19,670 --> 00:30:23,870
hell am I buying? 
A $400.00 handheld quote UN 

521
00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:26,510
quote vaporizer? Yeah, 
if you're going to do that and 

522
00:30:26,510 --> 00:30:31,670
really need it, you could even 
look at like an air Riser X Q2 

523
00:30:31,670 --> 00:30:34,770
vaporizer. 
Those are under $200.00. 

524
00:30:34,770 --> 00:30:37,090
You can still control your 
temperature range all the way 

525
00:30:37,090 --> 00:30:39,770
from like 190 up to 500 
something. 

526
00:30:39,770 --> 00:30:43,530
Yeah, so. 
And that one has the ability to 

527
00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:49,010
do bags and the little hose, so 
it's not quite as effective or 

528
00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:52,010
efficient as a volcano. 
But if you're going to go with 

529
00:30:52,010 --> 00:30:55,210
desktop and trying to stay 
really cheap, there's always 

530
00:30:55,210 --> 00:30:59,130
that one. 
But honestly, if you could, the 

531
00:30:59,130 --> 00:31:02,650
titanium looks so cool. 
It's just like a clean wood. 

532
00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:05,220
Classy. 
Look, I get something you could 

533
00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:07,100
leave on your desk. 
Cool. 

534
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:10,820
Yeah. 
I haven't seen the titanium. 

535
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:13,260
I like the idea. 
I like the concept. 

536
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:16,740
It's the box in the middle 
that's weird. 

537
00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:19,660
Yeah. 
Looks like if you've ever seen 

538
00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:25,580
Hellraiser, they open up 
Pandora's box, right? 

539
00:31:25,580 --> 00:31:27,790
Not them. 
Not the metaphorical one. 

540
00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:30,710
When you open, it brings out 
Pinhead and all these people 

541
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:32,470
from hell and they just torture 
you. 

542
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:36,750
That's what it looks like. 
It's like instead you'll get a 

543
00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:39,310
little elevated. 
Yeah, instead of elevated, you 

544
00:31:39,310 --> 00:31:42,630
open a portal to hell and you 
bring in all these demonic 

545
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:43,590
people. 
But that's cool. 

546
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:46,030
You'll kill them. 
It's all good, right? 

547
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:51,230
I played Doom Volcanoes stores 
in Bickel. 

548
00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:55,230
They're hybrid one if you really
wanna get into using extracts 

549
00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:58,180
and. 
Your flower as well, you have to

550
00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:02,380
go up to $700.00 plus with 
stores in Beckle in order to get

551
00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:06,460
one of those. 
Yeah, I'm but at that point I 

552
00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:10,100
feel like you might as well get 
2 individually specialized 

553
00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:15,340
pieces, right? 
And and that's a great well, 

554
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:22,020
again, moving from there over to
now extracts, right dabbing. 

555
00:32:24,550 --> 00:32:28,830
I don't dab as much, but I know 
you're real. 

556
00:32:28,910 --> 00:32:32,350
A frequenter of dab. 
Dab is probably one of your most

557
00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:35,270
preferred ways to be able to 
consume cannabis based upon 

558
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:39,110
potency and setup. 
It's pretty fast. 

559
00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:42,350
It is, yeah, at least with the 
setup I currently have. 

560
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:45,550
So you had used one before. 
It was a really good one. 

561
00:32:45,910 --> 00:32:48,710
The Puffco. 
Yeah, the Puffco Peak Pro. 

562
00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:53,070
Is a fantastic little piece. 
I love how small it is. 

563
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:55,910
I like the colors in it and it 
just looks cool. 

564
00:32:56,110 --> 00:32:58,150
Yeah. 
Little science experiment, 

565
00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:00,230
right? 
Changes colors as it lights up. 

566
00:33:00,230 --> 00:33:02,190
You guys goes through the 
process. 

567
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:05,070
How much are one of those? 
I think it was like 379, four, 

568
00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:10,870
$100. 
OK and and tell me why on the 

569
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:14,390
side of trying to think about 
why would I justify to be able 

570
00:33:14,390 --> 00:33:16,550
to spend that much on something 
like this. 

571
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120
What are the positives that I'm 
gonna be able to see You using a

572
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,400
puff cup? 
Yeah. 

573
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,280
So a couple steps back before 
that, I used to dab out of the 

574
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,640
normal dapper. 
You got the old little glass 

575
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,240
being looks kind of like a bong 
or like a crackhead. 

576
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Right? 
And you get out your blowtorch 

577
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,840
and you're heating it up, so of 
course you look like a 

578
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,280
crackhead. 
And yeah, but you were 

579
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,560
scientific as hell with it. 
Like you would use Alexa. 

580
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,720
Yeah, I just had a timer. 
Cuz I'm like, I know that I 

581
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,300
want. 
These flavor, like, it'll not 

582
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:50,660
burn, it'll be a better flavor 
at this long after it. 

583
00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:54,060
So I'd always heat it up, let it
cool down to a certain point, 

584
00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:57,580
then do my dab. 
Because I learned over time that

585
00:33:57,940 --> 00:34:01,420
glass was like red hot. 
Oh yeah, it was crazy. 

586
00:34:01,420 --> 00:34:05,580
But I learned. 
And going from that to a 

587
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:10,380
temperature control piece is 
fantastic because you can get 

588
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:12,940
the terpenes you want. 
I mean. 

589
00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:16,739
Obviously the terpenes from your
concentrates, but you can 

590
00:34:16,739 --> 00:34:19,620
actually get a better flavor 
from your terpenes because 

591
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:23,179
you're not burning them. 
You don't waste as much going 

592
00:34:23,179 --> 00:34:29,420
through that and the puffco is 
just a much better way to to use

593
00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:34,100
my cannabis or my dab than just 
going through a normal tab rig. 

594
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:41,500
So but but downside is I would 
say cleaning it. 

595
00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:45,530
Was kind of a pain in the ass 
for some reason. 

596
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:53,570
They run it like the actual air 
flow through the base just 

597
00:34:53,570 --> 00:34:55,170
because of the build, the 
design. 

598
00:34:55,570 --> 00:35:00,330
The downside of that is you 
actually get concentrate build 

599
00:35:00,330 --> 00:35:03,130
up all through that bottom part 
of your piece. 

600
00:35:03,130 --> 00:35:03,650
Is it? 
Is it? 

601
00:35:04,890 --> 00:35:07,010
I mean, most of these things 
have been built to be taken 

602
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:10,950
apart, but even taking it apart.
It's really in the nooks and 

603
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:12,510
crannies in there. 
In it, Yeah. 

604
00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:15,390
It's in the nooks and crannies 
that are the pain to clean out 

605
00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:18,630
in that one. 
It's not horrible. 

606
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:21,710
It's still a good handy piece 
and I think it's better than 

607
00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:25,590
using a dab rig. 
OK, so it's a step up from a dab

608
00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:29,390
rig. 
Now you graduated from from that

609
00:35:29,390 --> 00:35:32,790
one, right? 
So Puffco was Puffco Peak. 

610
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:33,870
Mmhmmm. 
Right. 

611
00:35:34,030 --> 00:35:37,070
Puffco Peak Pro. 
Puffco Peak Pro, Right. 

612
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:39,620
There you go. 
Peter packed a pickle Pickle. 

613
00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:41,380
Pickle Peppers. 
Yep. 

614
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:45,180
Right there. 
But you went from that to the 

615
00:35:45,220 --> 00:35:48,060
Doctor Dabber switch? 
I did, yeah. 

616
00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:50,220
And what's the price difference 
between each one of those? 

617
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:52,460
So they're actually about the 
same price. 

618
00:35:52,660 --> 00:35:53,500
They're both $400.00. 
Cool. 

619
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:58,620
So. 
But you're really excited about 

620
00:35:58,620 --> 00:35:59,420
it. 
Tell me why. 

621
00:35:59,620 --> 00:36:04,100
Well, the Doctor Dabber switch 
is able to do both flour and 

622
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,280
concentrate. 
So you can't do that with the 

623
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Puffco Peak? 
No, that one's just for 

624
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,040
concentrates. 
Now, I will say that the flavor 

625
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,760
profile of using flour in the 
Doctor Dobber Switch has not 

626
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,520
been quite as enjoyable as like 
the Volcano or even the Air 

627
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,640
Riser Pro 2 that I used before. 
You say it was on par with like 

628
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,110
the packs. 
I'm still not sure. 

629
00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:36,950
I haven't used it enough with my
flour. 

630
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:40,550
Not use a lot of extracts, yes. 
So why is it so cool for 

631
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:42,870
extracts? 
Well it's so cool in general 

632
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:47,030
because it's self cleaning. 
As in your bowl that's in there 

633
00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:51,870
you can heat up to a point that 
it burns off every excess thing 

634
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:53,590
in the bowl. 
Wow. 

635
00:36:53,590 --> 00:36:57,710
And then below the bowl when you
take off the glass attachment on

636
00:36:57,710 --> 00:37:01,190
top, which just filters all your
product through there in the 

637
00:37:01,190 --> 00:37:03,590
water. 
Pulls it down makes it really 

638
00:37:03,590 --> 00:37:08,670
nice, but below that the actual 
heating element where puffco it 

639
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:10,270
clogs and runs everything 
through. 

640
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:16,510
It's just a all in one like 
ceramic glass piece so I can 

641
00:37:16,590 --> 00:37:20,910
heat it up and then just the 
concentrates that maybe run over

642
00:37:20,910 --> 00:37:23,630
and fill that little reservoir 
are super easy. 

643
00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:27,870
I just take a Q-tip, wipe up 
that heated residue and it 

644
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:31,160
cleans it right out. 
Sounds super easy. 

645
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,040
And then just using my normal 
orange stuff from Lowe's to 

646
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,280
clean out my little glass piece.
And it's done. 

647
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,760
So convenience. 
It's pretty good size wise, 

648
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,840
comparatively speaking. 
Between that, oh, it's like 2 to

649
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,640
three times bigger than the 
Puffco Plus right? 

650
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,080
But the battery lasts all day, 
more than all day. 

651
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,440
I can use it for a couple days. 
And the best part? 

652
00:37:56,770 --> 00:37:59,370
I can plug it in and use it at 
the same time. 

653
00:38:00,130 --> 00:38:05,130
So if I'm working having it sit 
on my desk, I can have it 

654
00:38:05,130 --> 00:38:10,530
charging and continue to use it 
and it's great desktop piece, 

655
00:38:10,530 --> 00:38:15,810
it's pretty big, but you know, 
it's it's not gargantuan, but 

656
00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:18,730
it's still pretty good. 
Yeah, it's a good size piece, 

657
00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:23,130
but it has more water to run it 
through too, so the puffco water

658
00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:28,200
base that it runs through. 
Super tiny or maybe like an 

659
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,040
eighth of an inch of water. 
I feel like maybe like 1/4 of an

660
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,160
inch of water. 
It's not a ton and this one has 

661
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,640
maybe like an inch and a half of
water that it runs through. 

662
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,480
Overall the the doctor diver 
switch, that's what I was saying

663
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,200
earlier is instead of a volcano 
I probably would get even just 

664
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,360
that titanium cool looking wood 
one and yeah and either a puff 

665
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:58,050
Co or a doctor diver switch. 
Because that would be a much 

666
00:38:58,130 --> 00:39:01,370
better experience. 
I think both are crafted 

667
00:39:01,370 --> 00:39:05,850
specifically more for like an 
individual product and you're 

668
00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:07,330
going to provide a better 
experience. 

669
00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:10,530
And yes, Volcano's been the one 
that's been around the longest, 

670
00:39:11,290 --> 00:39:13,370
but that doesn't really mean 
it's the best. 

671
00:39:13,610 --> 00:39:15,210
Yeah, no. 
And I mean, I've already said 

672
00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:17,890
enough about packs. 
Three guys all know I like that 

673
00:39:18,490 --> 00:39:22,170
on the carts. 
Again, bangers love them. 

674
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:25,470
If you guys have a cart that you
really love, let us know. 

675
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:31,270
I don't mean to shit all over 
to, but the KRT, your disposable

676
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:34,390
pods, they're trash. 
Yeah, I was definitely 

677
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:37,510
disappointed in that. 
Hated that with one to 10 if I 

678
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:40,550
would ever use it again, 10 
being I'll use it every day. 

679
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,600
One Baden. 
I wouldn't even give it to a 

680
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,480
friend. 
I would rate it a one. 

681
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,840
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend this 
to any friends. 

682
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,960
I wouldn't even give it away to 
them. 

683
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,680
Be like, hey, you wanna be 
frustrated today? 

684
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Yeah, right. 
Take that, bro. 

685
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,040
Right. 
Hey, I know you think this is 

686
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,560
gonna calm you down, but this is
actually just designed to piss 

687
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,080
you off, right? 
With that, hopefully you found 

688
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,920
some new pieces or pieces to 
stay away from. 

689
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,440
Yeah, go give us a like, give us
a review down below. 

690
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,840
Yeah, check out our Patreon. 
And then next week. 

691
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,520
Take care everybody.
