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Welcome to Cannabis School. 
I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. 

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And I'm Brandon Elder. 
And we're here to talk to you 

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about everything pertaining to 
cannabis from. 

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Vape flour. 
Edibles. 

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Strains. 
And everything in between. 

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Hey, welcome back kids. 
All right, today we are going to

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be getting into more information
about cannabis and one of the 

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things we're talking about, 
we're talking about cannabis and

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being a disorder. 
Yeah, cannabis and addiction or 

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also. 
We did a cannabis and addiction.

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We did, but this one is more of 
like the addictive properties 

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that we've done about addiction 
and stuff like that. 

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But CUD is is different from 
most of it and it it seems like 

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your typical Stoner stuff. 
So here's here's some fun stuff 

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I'm going to I'm going to go 
into and Brandon's going to 

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laugh his ass off with cud. 
The known side effects. 

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This is the best like I know. 
You know, it's basically the 

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side effects of. 
Being high. 

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Using cannabis. 
Yeah, the the physical science. 

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Bloodshot eyes. 
Guilty munchies, but munchies 

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that are no longer ha ha fun. 
It's more like, oops, I ate an 

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entire rotisserie chicken at 2 
AMI. 

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Don't know the last time I've. 
Done that I haven't done that in

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a long time so I know that I am 
and and I I've learned to 

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control my eating habits when 
I'm elevated. 

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I know certain things Tim 
Pickett told us about ice water.

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I always do that now I. 
Drink. 

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Ice water while I'm smoking. 
I don't get the munchies or I 

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have a healthy option and it's 
always a cut up apple. 

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Cut up apple? 
What apple? 

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I prefer the cosmic crisps. 
I like the sweetness, Tiny, 

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tart. 
But by the time I finish that 

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apple I'm OK. 
Now when I'm not OK, I'm a type 

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2 diabetic and the most easy and
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carbs. 
Carbs and sugar and I tend to 

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like justify when I've got the 
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This is like an OCD thing for me
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I know, it's such a fun little 
fidget. 

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I like how it spins for and ever
forever. 

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It's like a it's like one of 
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Yep. 
That's exactly right, I felt. 

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Got some good hits out of that. 
Also a tiny little little bit of

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dab. 
Oh dude, it's like. 

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Great for both. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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But the, the bloodshot eyes, 
munchies, I get that. 

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When you're like, when some 
people say like, how do you keep

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your weight down if you use 
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Well, you use it responsibly, 
right? 

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I mean I'm not a good example 
because I have a crazy crackhead

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genetic line, but like, there 
you go, the ball is finished. 

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I just turned it off. 
Oh yeah, you can clean it up. 

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Can I wipe him out while he's 
hot? 

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So, but when you start look, I 
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mental signs. 
So here's where you know, you've

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gone a little far. 
And I was talking to Brandon 

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about this just a little while 
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There's a point where you start 
using cannabis and it no longer 

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chills you out. 
It just makes you anxious but 

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you keep using it thinking. 
With your anxious. 

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Yeah, and it just gets worse 
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I had something similar with 
some disties on that are blacks.

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OK. 
Pineapple Express and Sour 

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Diesel, I have to respect them 
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used to disties. 
Just boop, boop boop boop boop. 

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If I take more than five hits in
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heart anxiety. 
I'm edgy. 

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So then what do I do? 
I switch to the other side, 

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which is more of a hybrid or I 
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that a little bit. 
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So I get this weird back and 
forth and when you start getting

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into that, you, you kind of 
realize like what what am I 

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doing here? 
So now like I've got my 

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Pineapple Express or why I don't
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Express is, but my Sour Diesel. 
And when I hit that, I know what

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I'm getting and I know where I 
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So now I use that strictly as a 
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I don't use those like, I'm just
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You know what I found? 
I've really enjoyed kind of 

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leaning a little bit more away 
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Me too. 
I don't carry them with me 

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anymore. 
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Unless I'm leaving the house, 
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But when I've been at home, just
the wide variety of concentrates

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and that like I've got 5-5 
different streams just in 

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concentrate right now. 
So having that variety, not even

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flour or what's in a cartridge, 
like it gives me the ability to 

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like vary my experience so, so 
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day or what's going on that it 
really allows you to kind of, I 

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don't know, I don't have to have
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even like the purple platinum 
garlic that we just did. 

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We shared that little dab and 
that'll last way longer than I 

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hit from a pen or, you know, 
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Typically, and that's another 
thing like talking about with 

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CUD, is you start being able to 
feel like you're not getting as 

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much out of your cannabis as you
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And that typically starts to 
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cannabis and how you're changing
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and methods of using cannabis 
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vaporizer or dab and and pens 
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well. 
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when it starts taking your time,
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You're hanging out with three 
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you know, relationships, other 
things like that because you're 

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just wanting to smoke weed. 
It replaces everything you do 

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versus you can use it to enhance
what you do and still live your 

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life, have hobbies, do things, 
be act like you can. 

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There are definitely that side 
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Yeah, it's an enhancer. 
And we've so cut or cannabis use

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deficiency or disorder, 
disorder, they there's a lot of 

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different studies and things 
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And it's supposed to be about 
one in one in 10 regular 

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consumers might develop CUD. 
So it's about 90% of US cannabis

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consumers will never experienced
CUD, Yeah. 

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But then the converse is, is 
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heavily before the age of 18, 
where your prefrontal frontal 

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cortex hasn't really developed 
yet, it's at 25 that they, you 

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know, give or take which. 
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talking about how that makes it 
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and stuff. 
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If you've dulled those senses. 
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habitual. 
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like, hey, do I actually need 
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You know, and that's why we 
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evaluate your relationship with 
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Where am I with cannabis? 
What is my what is my dose 

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looking like? 
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looking like? 
How am I acting around other 

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people when I use it? 
What is my? 

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Purpose. 
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I'm using it too much, I become 
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it's super funny. 
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I'm like, why can't these people
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I get you. 
Like, get you see how fucking 

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cool I am? 
Yeah, I'm so, I'm so mom, I'm 

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better than I was yesterday. 
I've said that to my wife, dude.

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I've said that to her. 
I'm like ohh, shit. 

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I instantly regretted it, man. 
I instantly regretted it because

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it's, it's, it starts to take a 
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And so, but the good thing is 
when you have a healthy 

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relationship with cannabis, you 
can say, OK, I'm going to stop 

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because when we were talking 
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kids are using it before the age
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it's not saying that if it, this
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where they took several 
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I think it was 2000 ish people. 
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studied them from the ages of 
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They followed them from 18 to 
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They noticed trends within their
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habitually used it. 
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heavy daily consumption. 
Now, I'm not saying like if your

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kid smokes pot, he's fucked. 
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And you know, I actually got 
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he did that because I'm like, 
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What type of strain was it? 
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I don't know. 
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with that at all. 
I am not cool with that. 

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Mike, you talk to me about 
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I'm not going to let you go out 
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And I was like, I don't know why
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He's like, why? 
I don't want to tell you cuz you

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get mad. 
Like no, I would rather you tell

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me about this, what you're doing
so I can at least help you go in

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the right direction because you 
develop a really. 

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He's already seen it. 
He has a close friend to his 

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that has developed cut already 
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When they wake, they're hitting 
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They're walking to school 
Benjamin. 

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When they get done with school 
Benjamin, anytime they could get

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to the bathroom at the school, 
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And then all night, all day, all
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And it's they go. 
And the excuses, my life's hard.

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My family sucks. 
But those are, it's like we've 

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talked about too, cannabis is a 
tool and it doesn't solve our 

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problems. 
It just gives us the ability and

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the time sometimes to step away 
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at those problems and actually 
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But in those instances or 
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those aren't addressing the 
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They're just hiding from it, 
numbing it, you know, not 

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actually sitting with that. 
You're exactly right, it's 

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numbing it. 
And so it's looking at that 

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relationship and going, hey, 
what, what is my relationship 

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with cannabis? 
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Why am I using it? 
Am I running from something? 

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Am I? 
Am I using it to numb my life 

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and escape my life? 
Am I using what I want to talk 

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about my feelings? 
Enhance my life and progress 

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where I'm at and you know, maybe
become a better version of where

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I'm at because I've become 
analytical or maybe like God, my

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mind's blinking right now, but 
introspective where you can 

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become introspective and go, 
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And maybe I wasn't, I wasn't 
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Maybe I just didn't want to see 
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seeing them or whatever it was, 
but now you can see them and 

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that gives you the ability to 
go, hey, all right, well, maybe 

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this tool, I don't have to run 
from this because I, I learned 

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this and yeah, that was kind of 
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And, and maybe I'm shittier than
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but I'm still actually a really 
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And in all these other things 
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forget is it's OK to have shitty
moments and to realize the 

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shortcomings that we have 
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we are all human. 
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is to be able to look at it like
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When you were talking about 
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self aware individuals can do 
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it? 
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And I, I, I thought I could, I 
have way more control over it 

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now and being aware of when I'm 
abusing cannabis because I still

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abuse cannabis. 
I'm addicted to cannabis. 

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I know that it's it's not 
difficult for me to go 

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throughout. 
I could go weeks without it and 

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I will be OK but. 
I'm taking more tolerance breaks

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than I have. 
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But you know, not always by my 
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It's my body. 
I think it was at that time the 

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reason why I was having anxiety 
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just constant. 
I I started to think about then 

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and I'm like, I started to do 
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memory is so tight and, and 
being able to pull this back. 

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I noticed a trend when I was 
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Dude. 
I was like a pen used to last 

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me. 
A 1G pen would last me a month. 

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Yeah. 
And then but that time, dude, I 

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was going through a pen a week. 
Yeah, but see, even that I it 

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was. 
During the pandemic too. 1G pen 

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in a week is really not that bad
when you break it down between 7

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days you're like 1.3 or .13g a 
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the pandemic like. 
Ohh no, but for me at the time 

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that that's a lot your. 
Consumption went way up. 

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Way up and that's when I would 
have these anxiety breaks I was 

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taking super strong sativas and 
concentrate These are not plant 

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derived they're they're plant 
derived terps if that if not 

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it's just straight THC it's hot 
dog water and I. 

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Pure extraction. 
No, we never did. 

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But I'm just saying like it. 
It felt like that to the point 

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where all I was getting was I 
didn't. 

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I didn't enjoy the experience 
anymore. 

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I was doing it out of habit. 
I wake up, I hit. 

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Yeah. 
Had breakfast, hit. 

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Drink coffee. 
Hit. 

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Where's my wife? 
She's upstairs. 

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Hit, Hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, 
hit. 

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You know what? 
I'm just like. 

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What the fuck dude I got and it 
and the only reason why. 

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It's not that I'm a bad person 
by any means, it's just I, I 

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wasn't a self aware. 
Now what's really helped me, and

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it's not a plug for it, it just 
it still helps me to this day is

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understanding my behaviors. 
And I go, where's my red light, 

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yellow light, green lights. 
Are these good behaviors good? 

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That means I'm doing productive 
things for me, not necessarily 

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productive things for society. 
And then the yellow lights are 

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like, you're getting a little 
grumpy, you're getting a little 

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obsessive, you're hitting your 
pen too much. 

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And I see those as and I take 
stock of that, but I've had to 

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teach myself that over time 
where I do a daily stock, I'm 

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like. 
Where you're. 

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At and how much did I use today?
Not because I'm I'm trying to be

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guilty, but because I want to 
stretch my weed. 

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I mean, I love the feeling of 
weed when I was telling you and 

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it was it was I'm feeling it. 
I'm totally feeling it. 

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I was telling Brandon that I 
was. 

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I've been, well, we both been 
like super stressed. 

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I just got a job with Brandon's 
unfortunate adventure, but it 

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was a good opportunity to be 
able to go. 

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I could do something else and 
make make more money in this and

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be less stressed. 
Yeah, you know what? 

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I could do that. 
But it it, it's all this build 

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up of life and that's a time 
when I should just go for a walk

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instead of hitting my pen or 
going for a walk, leave my pen 

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at home and just go for a walk. 
Listen to the audio book music, 

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or fuck it, just nature and the 
sounds around you. 

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And I found that that is a great
regular when I feel like I need 

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to hit the pen, but I know I've 
been hitting it and that's me. 

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Nobody else needs to keep stock 
of it. 

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And don't feel guilty for it. 
Just check yourself. 

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I noticed that too. 
Even over the last couple weeks,

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there was times that I was 
sitting there and that's I would

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be sitting there, I'd just 
puffed and and I'd go to reach 

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for my pen and I'm like, why? 
Why am I reaching for my pen 

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right now? 
I feel like it's strictly habit.

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I don't feel like I need more at
this moment. 

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I don't feel like if I took 
another puff it would alleviate 

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more pain. 
Make a difference in your life? 

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Yeah. 
It wouldn't change my focus. 

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It wouldn't. 
I'm already at a good enough 

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state. 
What does this picking up of my 

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pen actually do for me in this 
moment? 

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And I was like, actually 
nothing. 

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And I put it back down and I 
kept working and I was like, 

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it's become so habitual because 
it's so there, so whatever. 

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And. 
It is, but that's why I've I've 

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really appreciated concentrates 
and the dab rig because I can do

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a hit and instead of filling 
that habitual need or hey, I've 

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got my pen with me. 
I'm not even thinking about it. 

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I'm truly on my day doing 
whatever because I'm not. 

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It's just something different 
about it. 

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I don't know what it is. 
Like you said, there's the 

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plateau we still hit with pens. 
I don't get that with dabs where

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I can just go way past it and 
but I'm not looking to get crazy

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high usually, I'm looking to 
get. 

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I just want to know it's on. 
Pain relief and that's about it.

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Like and maybe get rid of some 
of the anxiety of whatever that 

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day is brought. 
And that's really it, if I can 

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get that. 
Well, and that's the thing too, 

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like I have actually heard that 
like one, one person a little, 

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they're slightly ignorant to it,
but they just said, well, you 

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know, they got medications for 
that for anxiety. 

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And my I totally get that. 
Like I tried to come off of mine

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and it was horrible. 
It was, dude, I was so emotional

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for a week. 
Everything made me cry. 

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Well, it's interesting. 
So for cannabis use disorder and

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people coming off of that like 
they can feel, some people can 

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feel more anxious or irritable, 
not have they'll have trouble 

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eating like they won't have an 
appetite or sleeping. 

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Well, it's because our what I 
mean cannabis is doing the same 

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thing as any other type of mind 
altering substance is that it's 

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creating a dopamine effect as 
well. 

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So you like the dopamine and I 
think that's where I started 

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feeling like the and that's a 
caution on candy, a candy gas. 

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It's such a dopamine hitter at 
first that I, I got burned out 

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of dopamine. 
I was feeling like I needed to 

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keep smoking. 
Interesting. 

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Which is so weird because I was 
really worried that my tolerance

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was insanely high like yours. 
And that's not a bad. 

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Thing, Brandon. 
Yeah, no, but no, no, I mean 

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because you have a high 
tolerance for a lot of pain. 

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It is a bad thing. 
It is, but I mean love to have 

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such a low last yes. 
And I was thinking, man, I used 

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to not, I didn't used to, not to
smoke as much flour. 

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I didn't used to smoke as much. 
And I when I'm saying a lot of 

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flour, I'm like, for me, a 
warning was when I went through 

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an eighth in two days and I'm 
like, something's wrong. 

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I'm smoking way too much because
it wasn't like I would hit my 

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bong when in, in a decent time 
once, twice a day. 

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I mean, I had my penjamin, but 
that's about it. 

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And then it was, I had to clean 
it in midday. 

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I had to clean my bong midday 
and I cleaned it and then after 

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it I set it all up, drop my ice 
cube in there for my ice 

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catcher. 
And I don't even know why I put 

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the ice in there. 
I was like, well, I guess it's 

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bowl 30. 
It's I just smoked another one 

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after I just fucking smoked. 
And it was just like, yeah, 

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you're you're abusing it because
there's something either you're 

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running away, you want to numb 
yourself and that's a great time

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to just stop and just go for a 
walk and just go and not not 

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beat yourself up about it. 
Just saying what's going on 

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right now in my life? 
Well, I look at that too, and 

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I'd go, usually if I'm doing 
that, what am I doing or what am

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I not doing? 
Because usually those are the 

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two things that dictate why I'm 
smoking. 

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Either I'm trying to escape 
doing something I probably 

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should have been doing, or I'm 
doing something that I just 

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don't feel incredibly happy with
the fact that this is what I'm 

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doing in that moment. 
Right. 

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So maybe it's a little 
combination of both. 

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Oh, totally. 
But you know, I kind of liked it

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after we were doing this 
research and and being able to 

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find like a really good topic 
for today. 

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You know, cut is a really great 
way to kind of to materialize 

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like tangibly present to your 
mind that cut is a real thing 

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and to all it should be. 
It's not a diagnosis. 

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It's not saying you're a bad 
person. 

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What it's saying is that, hey, 
check yourself, motherfucker. 

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That's a true evaluation of your
relationship with cannabis. 

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It's. 
Truly because it it shouldn't be

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your life. 
We have a a good friend of ours.

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He has openly said he cannot 
function day-to-day without it. 

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From wake till bed, he's on a 
sativa. 

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I mean for pain and like. 
I get. 

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That it is so hard to manage an 
entire day not on it. 

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I had an 8 hour stint within my 
day the other day without 

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cannabis at all. 
And for me as a chronic pain and

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like medicinal user, that was a 
really tough day. 

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And after those 8 hours I puffed
again and was like Oh my gosh, I

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came home and I used flour. 
I'm like, I just really could go

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for some flour. 
I sat down like rounded up, put 

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in my vaporizer, had a few bowls
and I was like my whole body 

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just instantly relaxed and I was
like, this is what I needed it. 

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Was like that San Fernando 
Valley. 

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Oh Gee, that one is. 
The weighted blanket. 

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That'd be nice to just, I don't 
care. 

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But if you're really beat up, I 
mean, that's the thing. 

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It's it's knowing your cannabis.
And I know people over there 

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like stranger bullshit, totally 
get it. 

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But you know what, They're great
identifiers for you to be able 

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to look at terpene profiles 
because now I don't necessarily 

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look at the strain name 
immediately. 

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I want to go to the terpene 
profiles. 

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And because I've learned so much
about that. 

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Both of us have. 
It's so great now because I go 

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past the name, I go past the 
indica sativa, I go right to the

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terpenes and I go, OK, this is 
more like a pain relief. 

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This probably an indica. 
Oh, it's an Indica. 

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Yeah, it's probably for this. 
And then I'll look it up and go,

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yeah, it's fair. 
And not to be like, look how 

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fucking smart I am. 
Like check out the big brain on 

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Jess. 
But it's, it makes it, I mean, 

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how many people are that aware 
of the pharmaceuticals that they

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put in their body? 
I mean, I, I laughed. 

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So I've gotten kind of cheap 
because I don't, I didn't feel 

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like it was needed for me to not
pay for the ad free version of 

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Netflix, which has been very 
interesting because I haven't 

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really watched ads since I was a
kid. 

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And now that there's ads, I'm 
like, holy shit, there's so many

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like medicine commercials. 
And it's like, oh, hey, side 

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effects might be like anal 
prolapse, death, heart failure, 

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like constant, all these 
terrible things, testicles if 

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you're allergic. 
To this. 

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Yeah, and I'm like, inverted 
penis, overblown penis, exploded

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penis. 
And you're like, why is that? 

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Why? 
Why are there like 10 different 

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penis side effects here? 
Random like weird What over 

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there? 
Your third toe from to the right

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on your right foot. 
And they're like do not mix with

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these other medications because.
Water or sunlight or? 

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Happiness and you're like oh 
fuck, dead. 

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And then I'm looking over here 
and I'm like, well this strain 

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might cause me to be a little 
bit anxious like tightness in my

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shoulders. 
My eyes might be a little. 

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DRY won't kill me. 
Or or this one might make me a 

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little sleepy. 
I don't think there's a strain 

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that actually makes your ass 
leak. 

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Right? 
Like that's what they used to 

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do. 
Like the you ever read the these

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sugar free gummy bear reviews? 
They don't have it anymore at 

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Avazon OR. 
Hungry bow sugar bears dude. 

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Like the best laxative. 
I found another. 

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I was like a really high end 
gummy, sugar gummy that they 

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have on the shelf. 
They have like all the the the 

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gummy bears in the circle. 
It's a white bag. 

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I can't remember the name. 
Oh yeah, You know what I'm 

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saying? 
Sell them at Costco, Yes. 

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And I can't. 
I think of that name brand. 

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I know exactly. 
So that one they had a sugar 

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free one. 
You guys know, drop in the 

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comments. 
Dude I know I'll remember it'll 

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be way after but I grab that 
sugar free packet of gummy bears

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and I'm like I want some sweets.
I get that. 

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I ate 2. 
And you shit your pants. 

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I'm like. 
How are they starting? 

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Threw them away. 
I'm just going to shit my guts 

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out. 
I don't want to do this. 

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But the thing that's so great, 
you know, when, especially when 

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you're looking at like what, 
what should I be doing with my 

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cannabis consumption? 
First of all, it's not just stop

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what you're doing, it's evaluate
what you're doing. 

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And then after that one, start 
looking at the terpene profiles 

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of every single strain that 
you're going to. 

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Even if you don't have the 
information, all of us can have 

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access to Google. 
Google has AI built into its 

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search algorithm, so you can 
just talk to it directly. 

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So just saying, hey, is this a 
strain that would make me really

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that I want to know the terpene 
profiles and you will get a full

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blown out of all the information
they can grab saying here's the 

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derpene profiles. 
Start looking for those. 

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If you're more prone to being 
anxious, maybe stay away from 

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those sativa strains, you know, 
but it's not always sativa 

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strains. 
It could be a certain specific 

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karyophylline. 
If karyophylline is high for me 

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in an indica, it it will make me
extremely anxious and it's just 

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because I'll feel it in my chest
and when I feel that pressure in

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my heart because it changes the 
blood pressure, then that 

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induces this feeling of anxiety 
when it's not anxiety. 

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So just just that that would be 
my little tip is just pay 

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attention to your terpene 
profiles. 

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Yeah. 
And how much you're consuming 

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and how often you are take don't
take a journal. 

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I don't know. 
I mean, Brandon would. 

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I would. 
I don't. 

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Know if you're in, if you're 
into journaling it, do it, write

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it down. 
But if you feel like you have 

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CUD or know someone who has, 
there are some methods you can 

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use or try an approach to help 
with that. 

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Aside from just re evaluating 
your relationship. 

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There's cognitive behavioral 
therapy. 

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So it can help you just kind of 
practice and change your 

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unhealthy thoughts tied to 
consuming. 

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There's another one, it was 
contingency management, which is

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kind of like rewards for like 
from abstaining from that, you 

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know, for not consuming and 
going, hey, here's a gift card, 

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here's this for, for hitting 
that and going, hey, I hit that 

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benchmark. 
I didn't actually consume and 

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giving yourself that kind of pat
on the back for that. 

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And last one was like a 
motivational enhancement 

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therapy, which kind of builds 
your reasoning on why you want 

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to change. 
So no shame, just kind of 

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motivating you to to make that 
impact and change in your 

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consumption in your life and. 
Yeah, on that one, that's when I

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read through that one and I went
through all of it. 

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Like what is incorporated with 
it? 

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It was basically like 12 shapes.
It's understand your behaviors 

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with cannabis, understand your 
behaviors with your. 

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Life what what causes you to get
in that state or go, hey, I need

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to do this and. 
Yeah, go take that quiz and just

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look at it. 
Pick me as your coach. 

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So you guys don't get put into 
the marketing campaign. 

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But I I specifically had that 
and they're like, hey, we want 

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to put you on our website. 
I'm like, cool, I can't be in 

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your e-mail camera. 
I don't I don't want to 

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overwhelm people with just 
mindless dribble, but it's a 

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it's a great and it's free. 
Take that test and then look at 

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it and then just kind of start. 
I would do is take your 

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information and then put it into
ChatGPT going, I consume 

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cannabis like this. 
How is this associated with my 

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00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,400
behaviors? 
And it can give you a really 

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accurate way to be able to 
understand yourself a little bit

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more. 
And if you want more 

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information, go to 12shapes.com.
They can help you over there. 

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But it really is it what you 
said there cuz like I, you know 

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it, we had these conversations 
weekly. 

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We'll talk about our cannabis 
consumption. 

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And so that was to be the last 
thing is get a buddy that you 

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can be open with, not the buddy 
that's like smoke this. 

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Yeah, and this and this and this
and this and then eat this. 

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00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,280
Yeah, eat this. 
And then, oh, man, you want a 

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brownie? 
There was 500 milligrams of that

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00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,880
wet brownie. 
Yeah, it's like, fuck. 

519
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,360
Dude, the moon. 
Yeah, but it's not cool. 

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00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,560
You're you're not helping 
somebody, you're hurting them. 

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00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,760
So be that good friend. 
Hey, let's do that. 

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00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,880
I don't know, sit around, listen
to this podcast, send it, share 

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00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,200
it with your friend, especially 
over there. 

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00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,680
And you know what, share it with
with, I mean, if, if you know, 

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00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,160
you want to share it with people
around you that are really have 

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00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,600
this very narrow mind about 
cannabis consumption, they're 

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going to see there's a lot more 
to this world. 

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And more often than not, they're
probably more curious than you 

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are. 
Yeah, and there's no shame. 

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00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,880
Like none. 
If you guys need help, if you 

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need assistance or that, like 
there's no shame. 

532
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,440
No one's perfect. 
You wouldn't ignore it if you 

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broke your leg, you broke your 
arm. 

534
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,120
Like got the help you need? 
And if you don't have anybody 

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00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,560
around you, reach out to us, 
we'll send you information, 

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00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,560
we'll help you out, give you 
some ideas, tips, pay attention.

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00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,400
We're going to be, like I said, 
our, our episodes have totally 

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changed. 
And so we are really focused on 

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making sure we give you the best
and and stay tuned for next week

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00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,840
here. 
Catch you then.

