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I'm Brandon. 
And I'm. 

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Jesse we're cannabis school 
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celebrities and your mom. 
Welcome to the sesh. 

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Oh yeah, so today we've got the 
great profit roof. 

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Yeah, we've been talking about 
this for a while, right? 

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Don't yuck someone's yums, you 
know, only put only to the first

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knuckle. 
Only to the first knuckles. 

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That was that. 
What you. 

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That's one of your sayings. 
I thought, I'm sure I've said it

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and probably stuck with Brandon 
for me and it's just some 

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fucking stupid thing. 
What off? 

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I'm just kidding fucking around,
you know? 

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But I mean, that's you're, 
you're such a good sport. 

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I love it. 
Yeah, don't yuck somebody's Yum.

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We have some short ideas that we
came up with too. 

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And there's some variations of 
Prophet Ruth and looks nothing 

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like Trump. 
Way better. 

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So yeah, but I just, we just 
love your surliness. 

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I mean, you just don't give a 
fuck. 

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And, and, you know, there needs 
to be more people out there 

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right now who give less fucks 
because it's, it's just, I don't

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know, it's just so full of just 
nonsense. 

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I don't know how you feel about 
that. 

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I mean, honestly, I just try to 
keep myself because it's like, 

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it's not really my fucking 
business. 

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Yeah, I know. 
That's that's what's funny at. 

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The same time it's sometimes 
it's just hard as I'm more like 

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I, I don't want to say I'm 
sensitive, but I, I can be kind 

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of sensitive to other people's 
energy. 

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I'm just like, I don't want your
shitty energy up in my business.

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Yeah. 
Yeah, shitty people are hard to 

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deal with sometimes and having 
them around all the time just 

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kind of need a break. 
Did you come up with the saying 

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don't yuck somebody's yums? 
Honest to God, I think I found 

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it like in some deep dark Tumblr
blog years ago. 

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That makes sense, sorry this 
last rain is still like kind of 

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sitting in my eyes. 
Dude this is starting to kick in

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pretty good. 
I like it a lot. 

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Waiting on it. 
It's pretty heady. 

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Yeah, it's very heady, but and 
the last one. 

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Was just like. 
Hit you with like a 

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sledgehammer. 
But like a very different kind 

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of heady. 
It was like made you stupid 

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heady. 
Yeah, you wanted to go to sleep 

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on that. 
I I definitely could have taken 

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a nap on it. 
And I feel fantastic. 

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You've had your medical card 
here for like almost a year, six

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months. 
It's. 

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Actually, yeah, been a little 
over a year now. 

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Holy shit. 
Because I renewed it back in 

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like February. 
Yeah, you got yours for PTSD 

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though. 
Actually, they actually kind of 

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discouraged that, especially 
this year because it requires a 

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lot more paperwork. 
And when I was speaking with my 

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therapist, she is not the one 
that is prescribing for me or 

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anything. 
She cannot do that. 

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But she would have to be the one
to give me the PTSD diagnosis. 

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And because it's almost on a per
case basis kind of for what I 

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understood when they were 
checking me in, they've said you

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also had chronic pain markdown. 
So we want to move towards that 

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because it's an easier. 
Yeah, that's crazy. 

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It's yeah, it's kind of a stupid
system because I feel like it 

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does help with some of my 
anxiety and stuff that I do have

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from like I do have like PTSD 
around like relationship stuff, 

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some issues with that, but it 
really just helps like being 

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more chatty and everything. 
You feel like you have to kind 

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of shelter yourself away from 
other people, protect yourself. 

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You said something about energy 
earlier. 

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Yeah, it kind of feels like I 
have to have a different persona

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to deal with. 
Yeah, you have to wear. 

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A mask when I'm elevated, it 
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break past that and just be more
friendly and more open. 

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I mean, it's way easier than 
trying to drink at work. 

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Yeah, because for some reason 
that's frowned upon. 

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And I mean, I don't know about 
you, but I make stupider 

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decisions when I drink. 
Yeah, definitely, definitely. 

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Yeah, even stupider. 
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Oh, yeah. 
No, definitely. 

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There's definitely been. 
We're not. 

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I'm not going to bring that up. 
Yeah, we're going to continue to

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something else. 
NDA. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So you're talking about you had 

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traumatic and I don't go too far
into wherever you're 

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comfortable, but you know, 
thinking about it, it's super 

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common. 
But on the self medicating side,

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have you figured out like what 
works for you really well at 

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what times? 
And have you had some pretty 

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negative experiences where 
you're like, fuck me? 

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I mean, in what way? 
Fuck me. 

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I don't want to be this high 
right now. 

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Oh. 
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Like like fairly recently I had 
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kind of like I maybe didn't have
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something. 
It was the gummies. 

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Oh yeah. 
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Which one was it? 
The red, the green or the 

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purple? 
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Was like the purple I want to 
say. 

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Yeah, OK. 
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What happened? 
I was like, oh God, I actually 

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just took a whole edible. 
I'm like, it's fine, it's fine. 

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And then I think what set me 
spiralling was initially like, I

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was like, Oh no, that was 1/2 of
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Yeah, you thought too much about
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Yeah. 
I I got in like a cycle of it 

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and I was like, Oh no. 
So when, when your body, your 

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body was already sensitive to 
the the feeling of of fear, like

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fuck, what's gonna happen, 
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I mean, the worst case scenario,
you wake up the next day, you 

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have an only fans account, maybe
some money, right? 

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But but I, I. 
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experience well. 
They don't make that dose for 

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you, Sir. 
It's like, you know, like 

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everybody else has like a packet
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They have a big giant fucking 
cinnamon gummy bear. 

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You've seen this half. 
Full of THC. 

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Of concentrate comes out and 
it's just like a straight. 

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Oh yeah, it's like a. 
That's Brandon's yes for that. 

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Right. 
It's just like it looks like 

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Winnie the Pooh. 
Oh, Christopher Robin, thank you

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for the hard day. 
I don't know. 

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So how long have you been on 
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Oh, like including 
recreationally? 

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Probably. 
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recreationally? 
I before it was legal in Utah 

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for medical. 
Did you just use it for just to 

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get high? 
That's. 

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How it started? 
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And like, I feel like that's how
a lot of people's journey with 

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cannabis can start, But I just 
found that it's easier to be my 

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more authentic self. 
It's I still almost kind of just

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use it like an as needed, like 
medicine. 

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It's not like an all the time 
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of my like shell was protected 
for me and it helps me get 

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things done. 
Oh, OK. 

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So are there certain strains 
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shelter in a way? 
Definitely like for more social 

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things obviously like more 
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that, but I mean I do sometimes 
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or like night terrors, so I do 
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Wow, have you found a specific 
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for either one? 
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actually a hybrid. 
It would be Blue Dream. 

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Like. 
Blue Dream also I cannot 

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remember the name of it. 
It's another blue. 

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Like it's like blue zittles I 
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Okay, that. 
One's very like sweet and it's 

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almost deserty. 
Yeah, the candy strains are 

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very, very sweet. 
Yeah, it's like glazed apricot 

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Gelato. 
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And it's fresh. 
Oh my gosh, Yeah. 

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No, I that's really. 
That's cool. 

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So now you've gotten to the 
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strains will do what. 
So you're not just going to take

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a joint from somebody at 
somewhere and going. 

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Yeah, yeah, I'll puff on that. 
Or maybe you will if if the mood

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strikes you. 
Yeah. 

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Probably. 
Also being cross faded is OK, 

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you do OK with that. 
It's a certain like I have to 

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be. 
There's a nice level. 

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Yeah, it's a level because after
a portion of employees suspends.

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Yeah, it's usually like 1 drink 
or so and then some water and 

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you know, a bunch of smoking. 
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Yeah, I mean, usually it's at 
our get togethers when all the 

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friends are hanging out and I'm 
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too. 
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we'll have like a drink, some of
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And then, you know, the rest of 
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So there there can be a nice 
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You just very much have to 
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alcohol, cannabis and like find 
that fine line between them. 

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Yeah, no, I mean, that's, you 
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it for granted because of how 
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smoked and now how many 
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But it's, it's really cool to 
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It's just like, hey, you know, I
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I almost find it like a way of 
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like hardcore nature guy, super 
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once you start like, I don't 
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had a horrible first experience,
Abby, when you you felt that you

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were like, yeah, like it almost 
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that just kind of got into your 
like, oh, yeah. 

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And medicine being like anxiety 
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You don't want to be able to 
open up with other people. 

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Yeah, well, and it's like, 
obviously being intoxicated with

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alcohol can give you a similar 
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was as out of control when I'm 
elevated versus with alcohol, 

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where I just feel like 
everything is going wild, like 

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the world's spinning and 
everything is great, but it's 

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like, I'm not going to remember 
any of this and it's going to be

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so hollow. 
Yeah, it doesn't have the same 

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connection versus you can, like 
you said, you can be your more 

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authentic self with cannabis 
because you can still let go of 

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the anxieties and the stresses 
that life and that brings along 

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with it and still allow that 
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without, you know, not 
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I feel like I made way different
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difference and like way more. 
God, I don't know how. 

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How has cannabis changed? 
Like the way you talk to 

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yourself? 
It definitely has softened me in

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a lot of ways. 
I mean, even Emily could 

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probably tell like a parable 
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met to now. 
And I think obviously the 

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relationship that grew there. 
But I've also feel like I've 

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changed as a person. 
Like even when I'm not elevated 

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or anything, I feel like I can 
make a more authentic 

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connection. 
I like to say that I think 

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you've grown a lot in the six 
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Years. 
She's yeah, I know. 

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Well, when I think about it, I'm
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for six years. 
Like it's. 

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Collectively, we've had some 
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Yes, that's why I was like, OK, 
not going to that side of 

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drinking because holy shit, 
alcohol is. 

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I do it up everywhere and you. 
Know I saw this comedian he was 

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like, think about the worst 
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then it researched laughing they
go now talk about the worst 

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experience you had in alcohol. 
Yeah, which one was funny and 

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which one was horrible? 
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scarier like moments I've had 
where I've taken too much of an 

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edible or something, I still 
just look back and I'm like, in 

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the moment I was scared, but in 
reality I was like, what did I 

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do? 
I laid on my floor and I got a 

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little upset and I crawled under
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Yeah, In reality, that moment 
you were truly safe, like you 

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were OK. 
But the like perception of that 

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moment is terrifying so much. 
It's like all of a sudden 

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someone can just hit you and you
just feel like, Oh my God, 

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something's wrong. 
But it's nothing is. 

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It's just for me it's like a 
self dispensing of if I'm 

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getting too comfortable 
something bad has to happen. 

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Oh wow. 
So you don't feel safe when 

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things feel OK? 
Yeah, it's just. 

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You grew up in a trauma 
environment. 

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Yeah, I mean, I don't want to 
like downplay like anything, but

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it's like reality growing up for
me wasn't physically bad. 

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Like there wasn't like physical 
abuse, but. 

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It doesn't have to be. 
Narcissism and stuff like that. 

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And it's like I, I still care 
about my parents, but it's a 

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kind of in a weird. 
My wife went through a very 

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similar thing with her father. 
So I totally get that because 

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it's that pain is so incredibly 
horrible. 

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It's undescribable to somebody 
else. 

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I mean, you can't describe it in
physical pain because it's 

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emotional abuse that was 
completely protected under the 

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guise of help or benevolence or 
being there for you and. 

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Going to therapy and learning 
some things, it's, I don't want 

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to blame them like entirely 
because they were raised. 

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Obviously they're not in a great
conductive environment either. 

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It's a generational thing. 
So it's kind of it's passed 

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down. 
But you want to break the cycle?

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Yeah, that's cool. 
That's really, and that's hard. 

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It's really good. 
I've had to watch my wife deal 

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with that for many years now. 
When a lot of therapy and, you 

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know, it's I, I can only imagine
how that is. 

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So, yeah, you know, that's one 
of the things that my wife says 

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about cannabis is like when she 
does therapy, she uses an edible

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because she can open up because 
she's so used to just keeping 

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everything here and guarded. 
And that's where the the tough 

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exterior comes from. 
Yeah, right. 

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But now that's that's really 
cool. 

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You know, I would say I've 
noticed a huge difference. 

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Yeah, in you it's. 
Like, I feel like we don't meet 

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you and I don't see each other 
as much as me and Brandon 

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because you don't always come to
every get together or whatever. 

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But yeah, that's kind of that's 
impressive to me in a way that 

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even somebody's kind of still 
more of a stranger. 

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Just noticed that over the 
years. 

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Well, I, I'm, I'm real. 
You know, I can notice a huge 

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difference in you now, Kapenra, 
when I first met you as 

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Wednesday Adams, where you had 
this dark cloud over you all the

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time. 
And I could see why. 

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I could see why, because later 
on in the evening, you'd open 

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up. 
You were fucking funny as hell. 

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You were. 
You've got the same kind of dark

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sense of humor that I do. 
So I'm like, like, that's funny,

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right? 
And other people are like, Oh my

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God, why would you say that? 
I'm just like, no, that's 

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hilarious, 'cause we, we find 
everything about life hilarious.

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But it's just cool because you 
have a brightness about you 

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right now. 
I mean, I understand you, you, 

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you, you got, you got a guy. 
How's that going? 

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It's going great, honestly. 
Is he in cannabis too? 

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Unfortunately he can't. 
He has ACDL so he's yeah, he's 

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unable to partake. 
I don't think he even drink. 

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Did he drink OK? 
Just not. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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He wasn't straight laced. 
He just can't use cannabis 

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because of his job. 
Yeah. 

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It's like when you met him, we 
were, he's like, I don't want to

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drink tonight because I have 
work tomorrow and I'm like. 

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That totally makes sense. 
Yeah, but we only met him. 

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Emily and I only met him the 
once so far, but. 

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He has a very. 
He's got a very unique schedule.

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Yeah. 
Is he over the road? 

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No, he. 
Is he local? 

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He's local. 
Cool what company you work for? 

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I don't I. 
Don't think you want. 

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To be yeah, that's fine, but 
it's a local trucking company 

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it's. 
Not local, it's a national 

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company, but it's like a local. 
We could cut it out. 

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No, no, we're not going to say 
anything. 

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No, no need. 
Yeah, the that's. 

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Yeah, it is because I've got a 
friend who owns one and his 

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brother who's like my brother, 
He, he recently died from 

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alcoholism. 
The guy was he, he was really 

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bad, Really, really bad. 
But yeah, that I understand the 

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chaotic schedule of a of a local
trucker compared to an over the 

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road, 'cause if it's over the 
road, it's pretty set schedule, 

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yeah. 
It's like I think one of my like

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coworkers brother says it's like
2 weeks on two weeks off. 

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Yeah, it's, it's really, it's 
just living on the road like, 

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and well, but I mean, there's a 
lot of really cool options too. 

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Because if, if she's like, hey, 
I want to go with you, he's 

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like, yeah, jump in my cab. 
Like I got a bed. 

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I got all sorts of shit. 
And you know, it'd be fun like 

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every once in awhile to do that.
But if it's a local, it's not 

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that way. 
He's just like just moving 

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freight. 
He he could if he wanted to 

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eventually move to like long 
haul, but right now he's not 

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like he's. 
Union. 

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Yeah, he's. 
Unions. 

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He's not high on the board yet, 
but he's like, I've thought 

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about it, 'cause I do get paid 
more, obviously. 

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Oh yeah, this is local. 
And he's like, I've thought 

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about it, but I'm not like 
committed to it yet. 

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No, but it's cool. 
I mean, it's great that he has 

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that cause like, you know, a lot
of people are like, I don't know

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what to do. 
You know, my, my tech job 

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disappeared. 
Like, hey, look, freight's still

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moving. 
Yeah. 

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Well, it's, I mean, I couldn't 
do it. 

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It's a brutal job. 
Oh, when I was a kid, I used to 

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work at that guy's trucking 
yard. 

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Every sad all weekend, Yeah. 
Friday and Saturday I clean the 

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trucks, but the cabs were 
disgusting because these 

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truckers would just piss 
directly into the seat. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Because they got to hit their 
time. 

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If they hit their time, they get
their bonus. 

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So these guys are doing meth on 
the road. 

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I mean, yeah. 
Oh dude, it's. 

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Holy shit. 
Yeah, because they got to stay 

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up, they got to move, I mean. 
It's definitely been cracked 

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down on in more recent years. 
Yes, but back in the day, man, 

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like when I was a kid, it was 
gross. 

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And then these couples, there's 
these giant couples that look 

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like South Park characters and 
that whole cab just, oh, dude, I

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brought in Scott and I'm like, 
dude, he goes, Oh my God, I have

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to replace the seats. 
That's so gross. 

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But it was that bad. 
And he was like, hey, you guys 

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destroyed these seats. 
I'm taking that money out of 

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your check. 
Oh. 

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So unfortunately, like I still 
feel like that's a bad 

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stereotype that happens, but 
it's like I feel like most 

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people are just trying to make a
make a living now. 

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Yeah. 
Because I see a lot in my line 

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of work. 
I do work in finance, I see a 

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lot of like people in trucking 
salary. 

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I'm like, wow, did I really make
the right choice with my life? 

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Yeah, I know, right. 
But you make, I mean, you make 

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good money and why not? 
Why not be on time? 

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Now they've put a lot of 
roadblocks and laws in there to 

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keep them from being able to hit
those markers. 

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So they have to get more 
regulated. 

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But still, it's, it's a tough 
job, man. 

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I I couldn't, you definitely 
couldn't with your. 

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Back, no. 
And they, like, restrict 

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cannabis. 
So there's no way, yeah, I would

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never even apply for anything 
like that. 

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Yeah, just to be respectful. 
Like I don't really smoke around

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him or anything cuz he's like 
he's not paranoid about it but 

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it's like I am cuz I think I 
would lose his whole livelihood 

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if like somehow he popped for 
anything on like a test or 

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anything. 
That's OK, Yeah. 

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And they test him pretty 
regularly. 

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Yeah. 
So do you have like a sesh 

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ritual or are you more of like a
chaotic? 

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I want chaos. 
Just whenever. 

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Chaos. 
Yeah, like that's why I like 

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vape so much. 
I'm terrible. 

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I'd be like, OK, grocery store 
time, like it's quick, all 

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right, got to. 
Go oh, it's so convenient, like 

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The Dirty carts, like they're so
terrible, but at the same time, 

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when I'm like, all right, I've 
got to go. 

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I've just I'm just going to do 
this real fast and run out the 

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door and that's it. 
It's the convenience thing of 

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like instead of I'm going to 
load a ball, I'm going to go 

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Outback, I'm going to smoke it, 
I'm going to chill for, you 

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know, however long will I do 
that takes way too much time 

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like. 
If I'm like going to, if I'm 

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just going to have a chill night
in, I'll get like a vape up like

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the big old fancy ones and I'll 
just sit there and like slowly 

396
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puff on it instead of chaos. 
But chaos is how I live my 

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day-to-day life. 
I mean, I think many of us live 

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a very chaotic structure, so. 
Yeah, but I enjoy that chaos. 

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Like if it's yeah, if it's too 
predictable, I just get really, 

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really just passive and I don't 
want to do anything. 

401
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Yeah, I can. 
I can feel, I feel a lot and 

402
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understand that like, but at the
same time I'm like, you can't 

403
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run on like adrenaline all the 
time. 

404
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,360
It's just not good for. 
You no, no, not necessarily 

405
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that, but it's like it's like in
in work and anything you do, I 

406
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mean, if it, if it's something 
that can, if you're a person 

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that needs variety and you 
thrive in that area, great, then

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that should be your focus. 
If you can just sit there and 

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focus on the task and get it 
done. 

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Dang, you know, man, my hat's 
off to you because that's not 

411
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me, but it that's, it's knowing 
who you are. 

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And that's what I've learned 
through cannabis because I used 

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to be more of like, I could do 
everything. 

414
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Yeah. 
And now I'm just like bro, chill

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out. 
What the fuck bro? 

416
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Just one or two things. 
One or two. 

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Things, yeah, I kind of, I kind 
of choose to like, I want to say

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like split my time by split my 
time between those two. 

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It's like I can be really locked
in. 

420
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Yeah. 
At work, like I'm very 

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professional. 
I do my best I can. 

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But then after work, I'm like, 
no, no, I'm going to be the like

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the stereotypical center. 
I'm just going to sit there and 

424
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be like, yeah, this is a really 
nice painting. 

425
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Like I'm just going to enjoy the
moment. 

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Is that what created your little
Etsy shop with all your shirts 

427
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and stuff was just being 
incredibly high and. 

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Kind of some of it, some of it's
very like black metal inspired, 

429
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which is gonna sound kind of 
weird. 

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Joy. 
In black metal and it's just 

431
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very guttural and primal and 
it's just like mayhem. 

432
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,840
I'm not sure if you know. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

433
00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:10,280
I'm huge in the metal. 
Music and it just is feeling and

434
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sometimes you just need that 
anger or like that happiness or 

435
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,080
something like that from like 
different music. 

436
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:19,120
Yeah, I, I honestly like, that's
probably the most calming music 

437
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to me because I relate to the 
feeling because it's not like I,

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I love how like even my dad when
I was younger, long time ago in 

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the 80s, my dad was mad at me 
because I was listening to 

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Metallica on a cassette tape 
because he worked at the state 

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hospital and there was a patient
who was crazy as fuck. 

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And he listened to Metallica. 
He listened to Metallica. 

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So my dad and his immigrant 
mind, he's like, hey, this is 

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bad. 
We're going to have this in the 

445
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house. 
This is corrupt your soul. 

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I bet the song just made him 
nauseous. 

447
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I mean, it was like fade to 
black. 

448
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I mean, it's not, it's not this 
like crazy hard person, right? 

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Like a free range child with me 
is like, my parents did not 

450
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,440
review my music choices and all 
they're like, well, we bought 

451
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,560
your first perennial advisory 
CD, an American idiot. 

452
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,600
Like whatever, it's fine. 
That's not that bad. 

453
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,240
Your parents bought it for you. 
Oh, yeah. 

454
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,560
Like, my parents, unfortunately,
are very surface level aware of 

455
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,600
a lot of things. 
Yeah. 

456
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,280
And it's like they want to be 
the best people they can be, but

457
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,640
they're just like, all right. 
Like, I guess. 

458
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,200
Like, I don't agree with these 
like, stupid punk kids singing 

459
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,880
this, but whatever. 
My parents are like, at this 

460
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,880
point in their 50s when I'm like
15, Yeah. 

461
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,080
So they have this very like past
generational mindset of just 

462
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,600
like what else she'll grow out 
of. 

463
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,080
It so they're disconnected. 
Oh yeah, completely. 

464
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,320
Yeah. 
Did your parents listen like 

465
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,240
check out your music most of the
time or like. 

466
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,640
Only if they heard. 
I mean when it's when I was like

467
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:50,000
from 8:00 until 10. 
My I don't remember my parents 

468
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,680
ever checking going through my 
music. 

469
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,480
Which is hilarious in your. 
Because my parents and I had. 

470
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000
So funny I had like Auschwitz 
over there. 

471
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,880
Like with content. 
What's weird, So what's really 

472
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,080
weird is because I feel like my 
parents are so much older than 

473
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,680
like my, our average 
generation's parents, right? 

474
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,520
They were worried about music, 
like me listening to 9 Inch 

475
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,880
Nails, which just made me. 
Listen to them anyways like. 

476
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,840
Because my mom's like, I hate 9 
Inch Nails. 

477
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,920
They're the most depressing 
music I've ever heard. 

478
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,760
I don't know. 
Because like my cousin who's 

479
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,360
like 10 years older than me, 
like went hardcore to 9 inch 

480
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:25,080
nails and he was like time 
appropriate for it. 

481
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,600
So she's like. 
She's stuck like 10 years 

482
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,160
behind. 
Yeah, so. 

483
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,160
Like she was worried about 
things that were. 

484
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,760
Already in the yeah. 
Like that's how I got so free 

485
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,880
range with the Internet. 
Like God damn like the early 

486
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,240
Internet. 
Oh man, Nope. 

487
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,720
Not child friendly. 
We had filters on everything. 

488
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,760
It was like, oh, you searched 
for car? 

489
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,640
I better type in this password 
because the Internet's blocked, 

490
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,840
right? 
Yeah, it was terrible. 

491
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,560
So that's, that's funny though. 
Very hands off as far as any of 

492
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,080
that. 
So it's like they're like, I'm 

493
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,480
like, I don't know what the fuck
like could have happened to me 

494
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,720
if I wasn't smarter like. 
Do you think cannabis has 

495
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,800
changed your relationship with 
your parents at all? 

496
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,000
Yes and no. 
The problem with my parents is, 

497
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,600
again, they're very 
conservative, very like old 

498
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,240
fashioned. 
They are like so against 

499
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,280
cannabis. 
But the problem with there's a 

500
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,880
little bit of hypocrisy there 
with my mom. 

501
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,400
My older brother has a medical 
card. 

502
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,440
I found out and she's like, but 
like she supports him, but then 

503
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,320
she'll like turn to me and be 
like, I can't believe they're 

504
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,040
legalizing this. 
So like all these things, I'm 

505
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,680
like, what does it? 
Hurt you like does it? 

506
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,520
Do and then you're like, I'm 
like clearly you're supportive 

507
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,960
of one person in your family 
doing it, but not you're telling

508
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,920
me you hate it. 
So I'm like OK, you obviously 

509
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,320
hate it. 
You just don't want to talk shit

510
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,400
on. 
Yeah, that's really interesting 

511
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,840
it. 
I feel like many parents 

512
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,640
probably have double standards 
and certain aspects that they 

513
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,760
might not even realize. 
Well, especially that culture, 

514
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,040
that time period, these people 
were more of here's what the, 

515
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,400
the, this is what the television
is telling us. 

516
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560
And we always listen to the 
glowing box. 

517
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,000
Yeah, yeah. 
You know, everybody. 

518
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,320
I mean, it was a sacred thing. 
You didn't have many channels. 

519
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,680
Well, because that's what the 
special book said is the glowing

520
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,560
box is what God speaks to you 
from. 

521
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,920
Well, but on that, it's just 
like, you know, I, I grew up 

522
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,600
during a time where I had like 
there were six channels on the 

523
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,400
TV, right? 
I'm almost 50. 

524
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,480
And so it's, I'm not almost my 
wife would be very mad if I said

525
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,200
this 46, I'm 40 years away and 
it's going faster. 

526
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,120
But during that time, it wasn't 
like you could just watch it 

527
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:35,920
like it is now. 
Oh. 

528
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:41,480
Yeah, well, even my generation, 
if you didn't have cable, you 

529
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,560
had what? 
13, yeah. 

530
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,560
Yeah, yeah. 
Oh yeah, it was. 

531
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,360
Like if you got. 
A. 

532
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,840
Good. 
And the WB kind of came in. 

533
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,400
Mine was. 
My first introduction to South 

534
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,160
Park was actually on some like I
want to say it was almost like a

535
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,240
bootleg channel. 
Oh, I could. 

536
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,200
Barely pick it up and be like 
turn the anti. 

537
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,320
That's hilarious and. 
That was like my first 

538
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,920
introduction to South Park. 
My first introduction to South 

539
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,760
Park, I was in the Navy and they
were watching it on TV and 

540
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,200
they're like, look at this 
stupid cartoons and everybody 

541
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,720
was laughing and they're just 
like, that was a long ass time, 

542
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,160
dude. 
Mine was I was being 

543
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,520
homeschooled because I got 
kicked out of temp you for not 

544
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,000
going to class and my mom was 
down the hall on the other end 

545
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,120
of the house in the office and 
she always wears slippers 

546
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:30,880
because she's always cold. 
So you can always hear her 

547
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,960
walking down the hall. 
So since my school was on DVDs 

548
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,720
and they would mail him out 
every week, I would switch 

549
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,400
inputs when she was down the 
hall. 

550
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,000
I would watch MTV. 
I would watch South Park or 

551
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,600
whatever was on it's. 
Insane to me that you should 

552
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,760
just be able to DVD school. 
You're like, all right, here's 

553
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,120
your DVD for the day. 
Yep, click, click, click and I 

554
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,320
watch it and I was like, OK, 
send in these homework and these

555
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,400
tests. 
OK cool. 

556
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,320
Yep you did your school like so 
my mom would be down at the 

557
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,080
other end doing work and office 
stuff and I'd just switch inputs

558
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,440
and watch music videos and. 
Thing because if like I did that

559
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,400
I wouldn't be able to read like 
that. 

560
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,120
If educational sort of stuff, I 
have to lock in and be like, 

561
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,880
this is hardcore. 
Everything I have to memorize. 

562
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,840
But see, I I had already like at
that stage I was having to teach

563
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,920
myself math because the school I
went to didn't have anyone above

564
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,680
Algebra 2 like and so I was my 
own math teacher from then on. 

565
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,640
Like there was things I learned 
to read way above my reading 

566
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,040
level long before high school. 
So high school came and I was 

567
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,440
sophomore. 
I was reading easy college level

568
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,160
like no problem. 
Unfortunately, reading at a 

569
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,440
college level in like 13 did not
take me anywhere as far as I 

570
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,640
would hoped it would. 
Have. 

571
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,600
Oh, probably not. 
Yeah, it's no, it doesn't. 

572
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,800
Doesn't translate. 
Look. 

573
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,600
What I read. 
You're like, look, I can read. 

574
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,520
OK, that's cool. 
That's great. 

575
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,440
Yep, I know you're like, oh I 
can. 

576
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,080
I got into speed reading and 
like 8th and 9th grade and stuff

577
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,960
and I. 
Learned to read like so later 

578
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:07,480
than all of my peers and then 
once I got it I just like ran 

579
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:07,880
with. 
It. 

580
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,960
Yeah, me too. 
I were. 

581
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,840
Reading like Chronicles of 
Narnia in like second grade 

582
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,440
whole thing. 
Yeah, my second grade book 

583
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,400
report was I don't, I don't 
remember if it was either Black 

584
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,480
Beauty or Gone With the Wind. 
It was one of those 2 was my 

585
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,080
second grade book report. 
Was that like a required across 

586
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,160
the class? 
Like, no, that was what I was 

587
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,760
reading because I read, I, my 
mom taught me how to read before

588
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,120
I wasn't even in kindergarten. 
So we went in and I was reading 

589
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:38,400
way above there. 
And when I was little, the five,

590
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,200
me and my four siblings, we read
5000 books in one summer between

591
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,520
US. 
And so it was in the newspaper 

592
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,600
or whatever it was like, look at
this. 

593
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,520
And I'm like. 
Brandon's been achieving fame. 

594
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,200
No, my parents have just been 
like pushing us to just always 

595
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,040
be doing something. 
And we had to read 30 minutes 

596
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,160
every day. 
And if we were bored and we're 

597
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,120
too much of a pain, it was like,
sit down and read. 

598
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,560
Go read a book like. 
But this is like versus my 

599
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,120
parents really like, oh, you can
read. 

600
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,280
That's cool. 
Like you figured that out. 

601
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Good job. 
Yeah, I think it's 'cause so his

602
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:16,800
wife and like my grandma, she 
was very much about education. 

603
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,280
So was her dad, so was my mom. 
So it was very much like, Oh no,

604
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,320
you need to be very, very 
educated, very like, very smart 

605
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,760
in what you do. 
And and I'm like. 

606
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,640
Don't take you places. 
Don't see the same value in 

607
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,400
education that they definitely 
did that. 

608
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,760
Was my grandfather, but like my 
parents were just like, she'll 

609
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,080
figure it out if she want like. 
Were they the same way with your

610
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,600
other siblings? 
Well, my mom was a single mom 

611
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,320
and that she met my dad later. 
Obviously I came on, but I don't

612
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,840
know, like I don't really like 
she doesn't talk about anything 

613
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,400
like in that part of her life at
all. 

614
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,520
Wow. 
Like she, just like here's your 

615
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,000
brother. 
I divorced his father. 

616
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,440
And that must have been a 
traumatic time. 

617
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,560
Yeah, I don't know what happened
and that's. 

618
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,200
She'll never open up about it. 
Yeah, well, it's like I try to 

619
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,520
give her some leniency there 
because. 

620
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,640
I mean, we still make our own 
choices, right? 

621
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,560
And it's not fair to you. 
I mean, it's like my dad, you 

622
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,400
know, he will never say it, but 
he was abusive to me more on the

623
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,080
physical side growing up. 
But that's the way he was 

624
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:15,680
raised. 
Yeah. 

625
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,320
Like, you know, they would laugh
about it. 

626
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,840
Him and his brothers and I would
listen to their stories of how 

627
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,360
Grandma would kick the shit out 
of them with anything she could 

628
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,800
get. 
A pan, a fucking coat hanger, a 

629
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,200
whip. 
Like she beat the shit out of 

630
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,040
them. 
She was no taller than this 

631
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520
doctor Deborah Switch. 
She was tiny. 

632
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,080
And these five boys were 
terrified of her. 

633
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,840
Well. 
It's like I feel like that is 

634
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,080
for me because I'm I feel like 
our parents are probably closer 

635
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,320
in generation. 
Oh yeah. 

636
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Other people in our peer group, 
I feel like I'm the generation 

637
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,520
that got whipped and beat and 
stuff is my parents and then I'm

638
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,120
the next like almost like a Gen.
X kind of style of. 

639
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,440
Oh, yeah, yeah, you were. 
You're definitely. 

640
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440
I mean, you, you've been 
conducted and baptized. 

641
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,480
No, but I mean definitely. 
What it equates to is getting 

642
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,600
beat really good. 
Yeah, pretty much. 

643
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,200
I mean, like, yeah, latchkey 
kid. 

644
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,840
Latchkey kid. 
Yeah, I, my parents both worked 

645
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,120
and we during the summertime, we
were left to ourselves. 

646
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,440
But we, we took care of 
ourselves. 

647
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,720
We cooked, we cleaned, we made 
sure chores were done. 

648
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,120
The long got mode like 
everything was done. 

649
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,560
Our parents never had to ask. 
It was because we were left to 

650
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,680
be independent. 
And it was such a good thing. 

651
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,360
But the problem was is that my 
parents, your parents, they 

652
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,160
didn't emotionally know how to 
connect with us because they 

653
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,280
were brought up with sociopaths 
that got from the war era. 

654
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,960
So they were just all about like
work hard, get a lot of money 

655
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,800
'cause they right after World 
War 2, everything. 

656
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,120
Have you met my dad? 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

657
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,480
But I mean, it's, it's the but 
that's being raised that way. 

658
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,160
I think the only difference is I
didn't have a latch key. 

659
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,360
Mine were like hyper crazy 
strict. 

660
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,480
Oh yeah. 
Past that I got the abuse. 

661
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,360
That was great So. 
Weird though 'cause it's like my

662
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,000
mother when I like, hit middle 
school. 

663
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,720
She's like, you're going to be 
dropped off and picked up, 

664
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,160
there's no in between for you. 
Yep, she went insane about that.

665
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,800
Interesting. 
But once I was in the confines 

666
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,920
of four walls, she didn't give a
shit. 

667
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,160
Like she's like, she's at the 
sitter's now and they'll take 

668
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,880
care of her pretty much. 
She's in a box. 

669
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,560
She's safe. 
Oh yeah. 

670
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,360
Like she's pretty much like she 
has the doors lock. 

671
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,320
She's fine. 
Like, I'm just like a pet dog, 

672
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,120
like, like. 
She'll be fine. 

673
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,480
She's yeah, video games like. 
That's a toilet. 

674
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,520
There's some snacks in the 
corner, like we put down toilet 

675
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,240
paper or newspaper. 
Dude, real quick, you should 

676
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,720
shorten her mic, OK? 
She's she's happy. 

677
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,200
She's speaking to you. 
Yeah, so I want to make sure 

678
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,200
that because I I couldn't, I 
couldn't hear a little bit. 

679
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,000
No, no, I just, I'm thinking in 
post for him. 

680
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,320
That seems fine. 
Oh, perfect. 

681
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Yep. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 

682
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,160
perfect. 
It was just a little too high. 

683
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,200
Did you feel was a little little
up here? 

684
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,560
Yeah. 
It's so much better. 

685
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
You'll hear. 

686
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,440
Yeah, like just free range 
parenting, that's what it is 

687
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,560
like yeah, my free ranging was 
more like we gave you an N64. 

688
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,160
You're you're good, right. 
Like Yep, plug that in, put on 

689
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,240
channel like 32. 
Good. 

690
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,040
OK, I'm gonna go to work now. 
Don't let the house burn down. 

691
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Don't open the door, don't 
answer any phone calls. 

692
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Don't let the house burn down. 
You know where the fire 

693
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,720
extinguishers are. 
You know how to die 911. 

694
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,040
You know your grandparents phone
number? 

695
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,080
Yeah, don't call me unless 
you're really. 

696
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:33,800
Bleeding. 
Yeah. 

697
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Unless you are throwing up or 
bleeding, do not call me. 

698
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,480
Yeah. 
And if you call, it'd be my mom 

699
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,400
was like a medical 
transcriptionist at the time, 

700
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,040
and it just sounded like rain on
a tin roof. 

701
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,600
She's like, and she's talking to
me while still typing. 

702
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,080
And I'm like, that's insane. 
But I'm like, mom, she goes, why

703
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,440
are you calling me? 
And I'm like turned. 

704
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,840
Into that with like, my parents 
call me. 

705
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,560
I'm like hello. 
OK yeah, yeah, I'll be down. 

706
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,320
Sure. 
Yeah, yeah. 

707
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,440
KK bye. 
Bye click and I don't break 

708
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,640
contact with whatever I'm doing 
once. 

709
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Yeah, sometimes I'm like, I'm 
not an I'm editing usually, I 

710
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,840
hate to say it, it's usually my 
dad, but it's because he's it's 

711
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,120
not an emergency. 
So I feel. 

712
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Like they've turned like for me,
my parents have gotten more 

713
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,840
needy as I've gotten older. 
Not in like a physical way, but 

714
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,040
in like the like emotionally 
like my. 

715
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,160
Validation. 
Yeah, and I'm like, what the 

716
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,400
fuck? 
Where was this when I was like 

717
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,560
13 and going through? 
It Oh yeah, my dad has amnesia. 

718
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,360
My my brother was like, he's 
like, yeah, you don't remember 

719
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760
that time when he was on top of 
you fucking punching you and 

720
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,880
shit and I was trying to, I was 
hitting him to get off of you. 

721
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,280
He's like, what was that over? 
I'm like, yeah, I didn't wash 

722
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,080
his truck when he told me to, 
you know, it was I I was playing

723
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,800
Nintendo and he's like, what the
fuck are you? 

724
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,360
I mean, my dad never swore. 
It was super funny. 

725
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,560
He never swore in English. 
He he wouldn't even swear in 

726
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Spanish. 
When I started swearing in 

727
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,080
Spanish, he lost his shit on me.
He's like, we don't wanna say 

728
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,640
that in this house and he's 
still like that. 

729
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,280
Like he'll say bastard if he's 
really mad. 

730
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,719
I'm like, whoa, language, 'cause
my brother and I are former 

731
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,679
military and everything's fuck 
this and fuck that and he just 

732
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,159
sits around. 
He's like 1. 

733
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:19,400
Of my earliest like memories I 
have is like of being loosely 

734
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,320
babysat. 
In other words like there's an 

735
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,760
adult in the area by my uncle 
and I would just sit on like the

736
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,040
pipe where he would like he said
it was at my grandparents house 

737
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,480
and they lived super close to us
sitting on the pipe of their 

738
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,520
irrigation while he's working on
his like army truck that he got 

739
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,239
like as he got out of the 
military and he like had the 

740
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,560
hood come down on him. 
He just screams. 

741
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,440
Fuck. 
And my mom's like, what? 

742
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,000
And he's like, you didn't hear 
that? 

743
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,600
Just like completely denies it. 
And he's like, don't ever repeat

744
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,199
that to me on like the pipe and 
she but. 

745
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,080
You couldn't forget that word. 
No, it just. 

746
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Dwelled. 
There. 

747
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,440
Yeah, it did. 
I I was like that too. 

748
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,120
My mom's like, yeah, you had a 
mouth on you even since you were

749
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,560
little. 
She you'd be running. 

750
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,520
My mouth like so much to myself 
because my mom like just my 

751
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,320
grandma was like, that's not 
lady like even though she'd be 

752
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,880
like God damn idiots. 
God damn this God damn your 

753
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,880
brother. 
Father. 

754
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,640
Like her little little muttering
as she would like just I would. 

755
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,440
And she's from the, like, old 
racist era. 

756
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,760
Well, like, that's the thing. 
It's like I feel like, like my 

757
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,800
grandmother. 
I'm good. 

758
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,200
Would love to, like, bless her 
soul, she would thrive in today 

759
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,960
'cause like, I really don't 
think she ever wanted to be 

760
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,080
married or any of that. 
Yeah. 

761
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,080
It's just that was kind of a 
lifestyle that it was back then.

762
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Well, yeah, I mean, that's 
that's what you did. 

763
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,160
My grandpa told me not to get 
married. 

764
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,240
He told me lick it as much 
butter off as much bread as you 

765
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,600
can, don't get married. 
And that was like grandma. 

766
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,720
'S advice to me she was like you
want to know the best advice in 

767
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:39,720
life? 
Don't ever get married if you 

768
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,520
don't have to. 
And I'm like damn. 

769
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,280
Grandma like looking back I'm 
like. 

770
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,840
That sucks they just got married
to get married. 

771
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,280
Like, and the thing was you want
to know his qualifications. 

772
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,000
It's kind of really sad. 
It's he just not wasn't abusive.

773
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,880
Like he drank and he gambled, 
but he wasn't abusive. 

774
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,440
Hey, maybe at that time I know 
you stayed up. 

775
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,200
Yeah, Yeah. 
That's. 

776
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,320
Crazy. 
Well, that's when like, you 

777
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,880
know, it's like, you ever heard 
about what the rule of thumb is?

778
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,480
The rule of thumb was is that a 
man could not beat his wife. 

779
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,440
With a stick lighter than his 
thumb? 

780
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,960
Yep. 
Yeah, that's the yeah. 

781
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,560
And it's just like, that's how 
how? 

782
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,680
That's what it meant, yeah. 
Like really fucked up, right? 

783
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,320
But it it just goes with those 
times and they just evolved the 

784
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,080
last. 
Time I I had some like weird 

785
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560
abdominal pain. 
I was like, fuck, this is my 

786
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,880
appendix. 
Like I just know it is and like 

787
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,800
it's lower right hand quadrant. 
This is my appendix. 

788
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,440
I got my ER. 
And so I go there and they're 

789
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,480
like, are you able to walk? 
I'm like, yeah, this is this is 

790
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,200
only like an 8 out of five, like
8 out of 10. 

791
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,040
I mean like they're like, oh, do
you need a wheel trim? 

792
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,680
I'm like, no, I can walk. 
They're like, oh. 

793
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,280
Fuck, what did it end up being? 
Ended up being they don't know 

794
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,160
and that's how Timmy tumor 
arrived. 

795
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,760
Yeah, she named her tumor. 
You got a tumor. 

796
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,400
I have Timmy tumor. 
On my liver mind you, that's not

797
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,600
the area that hurt at all. 
It was like down low where your 

798
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,680
appendix starts to hurt from. 
Yeah, you, you sound like me 

799
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,560
too. 
A little bit of a hypochondriac 

800
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,200
when something starts going like
someone coughs around you. 

801
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,440
Yeah. 
It's like you no, no, no. 

802
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,400
It's like you can like cough on 
me, whatever. 

803
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,600
I'm I'm an idiot and I was 
unknowingly exposed to like 40 

804
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
different people of COVID 
somehow never caught. 

805
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,560
It Yeah, We were like, throwing 
stuff at her, licking her, like 

806
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,800
they made me lick the ground. 
Yeah, like she didn't catch no 

807
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,560
matter what. 
This is why I don't come to 

808
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,080
these parties, but. 
Like I messed up and I'm like oh

809
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,360
fuck, I'm gonna get it this 
time. 

810
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,840
I'm gonna be working from home. 
It's gonna, it's gonna suck 

811
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,840
'cause I'm like living in my 
parents basement, like. 

812
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,800
Yeah, pre Manifest Destiny, 
right? 

813
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,040
Yeah. 
Yeah, I'm like, I have to just 

814
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,640
stay healthy and somehow, 
someway never caught it. 

815
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,240
But now it's like you can like, 
like internal pain, though. 

816
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,920
Oh my God. 
I'm like, it's an organ. 

817
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,160
This is it. 
Like my spleen ruptured or 

818
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,720
something. 
I'm like, well, I better call, 

819
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,240
like call somebody to come get 
me. 

820
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,920
That way they find my dead body 
like. 

821
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Yeah, I I do that my. 
Butt I left the key under the 

822
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,480
mat. 
Legit, like I actually got 

823
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,440
violently I'll like recently and
I just like I left a key under 

824
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,600
the mat. 
Like can you check on me before 

825
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,200
you go to work and my boyfriend 
shows up, He's like, are you OK?

826
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,240
I'm like, yeah, I just don't 
feel very good. 

827
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,160
He's like, are you gonna be OK 
to nigo the doctor? 

828
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640
I'm like, no, we're, we're good 
like. 

829
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,080
Oh man, yeah, if it's my time, 
it's my time, right? 

830
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,680
I'm like, don't pay for anything
other than a direct cremation 

831
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,760
and put me in a Folger's can. 
Right. 

832
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120
I'm like don't even bother with 
that just get like a giant 

833
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,920
slingshot on Amazon for 100 
bucks and like throw me into the

834
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,400
ocean dude. 
I hook it up to some 2 truck 

835
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,600
beds. 
Yeah exactly. 

836
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,520
Shoot me at like some building 
of some shitty company or 

837
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,920
something. 
Make sure I'm Naked so I flop 

838
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,400
against the window. 
Dude, I'll just tell my wife 

839
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,000
because the Navy will pay for my
funeral. 

840
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,760
Yeah. 
Really. 

841
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,760
Yeah. 
And I could do burial at sea. 

842
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,720
They'll take my ashes out there.
And they put you in an ammo box.

843
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,440
That's cool. 
They drop you in the ocean. 

844
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,720
I'm like, I've. 
I've attended many of those 

845
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,760
funerals. 
I say my my grandpa had a Navy 

846
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,680
funeral and it was mostly like 
there was some extra stuff that 

847
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,280
people got, but it was mostly 
paid for by the Navy. 

848
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,920
Yeah, they'll pay for the 
cremation and all. 

849
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,960
That crazy. 
Do you think they paid for not 

850
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,200
the Navy? 
Do you think they paid for a lot

851
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,960
of grandpas then? 
I mean, yeah, and. 

852
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Like you get like the 21 gun 
salute and stuff. 

853
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Yeah, yeah, you get, You get 
like the old like. 

854
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,360
One of the shells from 
grandpa's. 

855
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,280
Oh yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, from the M fourteens, 

856
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get that. 
Yeah. 

857
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,680
So you just have to contact the 
VA and say, hey, you know, this 

858
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,000
guy kicked it 'cause. 
I just knew they came and did 

859
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,200
like the flag and the 21 gun 
salute but 'cause they did that 

860
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,680
in my other grandpa's too. 
They did that? 

861
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,760
Yeah, they did that for Grandpa,
didn't they? 

862
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080
Who did they get who got it? 
Who got what the? 

863
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360
Flag. 
I don't honestly know the. 

864
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,920
Oldest sibling. 
Yeah, but the problem is the 

865
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,440
oldest sibling wasn't, he didn't
show up and he got absolutely 

866
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,600
nothing. 
So see, we I don't know who took

867
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,240
the. 
Probably Leticia. 

868
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,120
In my family, the oldest 
surviving sibling couldn't make 

869
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,600
it and then the next one was in 
the hospital at the time, so my 

870
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,160
mom took the flag. 
Yeah, that makes sense. 

871
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,800
So it's like, I think she's 
like, if anybody wants it, you 

872
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,240
can have it like. 
Yeah, nobody's going to be like,

873
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,240
OK, I know. 
Just one, just one. 

874
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,560
No though. 
Yeah, it's, it's quite 

875
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,160
interesting. 
Do you have another great 

876
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,720
prophet, Ruth, saying that 
everyone should write down that 

877
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,640
we just haven't Oh fuck it, into
our way. 

878
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,520
Oh fuck it, just do it. 
That's a good line. 

879
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,320
That's like my motivational 
phrase when I'm just laying. 

880
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,280
But I'm like, I don't want to do
this. 

881
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,840
I don't want to do that. 
I'm like fuck it, just do it. 

882
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,600
All right, fuck it, just do it. 
That'll be like the great 

883
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,320
Prophet Ruth shirts. 
Fuck it, just do it and don't 

884
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,000
yuck. 
Somebody's young. 

885
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,640
No, I could see that. 
It's all going to be lined up on

886
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,600
one side. 
It says fuck it, just do it. 

887
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,400
And then on the back it's going 
to be a list of things. 

888
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,880
Do I like, like the stuck in? 
I'm like, just do it. 

889
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,160
I just have the Shia LaBeouf, 
like, yeah, he's my little inner

890
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,840
motivation. 
Dude, that's something to do. 

891
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,760
We just have to take her head 
and put it on Shia Labeoux like 

892
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,360
some weird. 
That'd be awesome. 

893
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,000
Oh yeah? 
Well, it. 

894
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,880
Matched his vibe, all sorts of 
shit that'll. 

895
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,800
Be great. 
He's a strange dude. 

896
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Yeah. 
He's such a crazy method actor. 

897
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Have you ever seen the movie 
Fury? 

898
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,120
A World War 2 movie? 
So he got ready for that one. 

899
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,040
He pulled the tooth out because 
he felt like his character had a

900
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,360
missing tube and didn't shower 
for eight months during filming 

901
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,360
because he wanted to be in 
character the entire time. 

902
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,640
And Jon Bernthal, he was like, 
that guy was just weird. 

903
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,680
He's just trying to show 
everybody that he's like, 

904
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,800
because he's stunk. 
Oh yeah. 

905
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Really bad. 
Eight months. 

906
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,640
Well, it's like, what's his 
name? 

907
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,720
Johnny Depp. 
On every single one of the 

908
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:45,640
Pirates of the Caribbean. 
He would not shower. 

909
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,000
Like have you seen a Swiss army 
man? 

910
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,840
Yeah, no. 
What? 

911
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,680
It's a Harry Potter. 
Harry Potter, like, I don't want

912
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,160
to spoil it, but it's really 
weird. 

913
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600
It's great. 
He had like a fake body dummy 

914
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,640
for like essentially like some 
stunts because I can't spoil it 

915
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,360
in any way. 
OK, we should watch that. 

916
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,000
But he was like insisting 
they're like, oh, we have a 

917
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,120
dummy for you so you don't have 
to be in all these shots. 

918
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,840
And he's like, no, I will be 
strapped to this man's back the 

919
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,440
entire time. 
The only time I think they let 

920
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,880
them him use like the mannequin 
which I feel bad for the other 

921
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,680
actor but like was when like 
they're like it's too heavy to 

922
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,840
do it safely. 
Yeah, it's, it's pretty funny. 

923
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,920
Like did you guys? 
Watch Everything Everywhere all 

924
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,400
at once. 
Yeah, I've seen that. 

925
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,360
Oh, once, yeah. 
But I think I need to get really

926
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,480
high and watch it again. 
I. 

927
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,960
Yeah, I need to too. 
Yeah. 

928
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,040
Oh, that's a permanent chimera 
type of. 

929
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,960
Oh yeah, you would disappear. 
I'm a hand's labyrinth. 

930
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,000
Yeah, on. 
The whole feeling scale I'm. 

931
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,840
Like that's the. 1. 
With the creepy white hand guy. 

932
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I like was a little little high.

933
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Yeah. 
And I thought it was going to be

934
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,680
like a cutesy fairy. 
Tale, 'cause it was. 

935
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,320
Kind of released the second 
like. 

936
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,080
He takes. 
That wine ball and just I was 

937
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:05,760
like. 
Yeah, it was when Emily showed 

938
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,600
that to me. 
It was definitely a surprise. 

939
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,280
I don't think it was what I 
expected, that's for sure. 

940
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Yeah, that is Guillermo del Toro
is very dark it. 

941
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,080
It dark and also he has some of 
the most beautiful composition. 

942
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,280
Yeah, like do you ever see that 
one where there's the? 

943
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,720
Music scoring. 
No, no, no, no, There's another.

944
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,000
Composition. 
Okay, how? 

945
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,280
It's all stylized. 
Yeah, it's. 

946
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Like looking at a painting for 
the stills. 

947
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,720
Yeah, and he's got a big thing 
with vaginas. 

948
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,000
Yeah, a lot. 
Of vaginal what a phallic shape 

949
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:36,920
so. 
Totally. 

950
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,240
He he had, he did a movie where 
it was this. 

951
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,520
It's like the FBI had like. 
You know, shape. 

952
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,480
Of water, shape of water. 
Thank you, We went to go see 

953
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,880
Shape of Water. 
We did not know about the scene.

954
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,240
Yeah. 
And it's like, oh, oh, this is 

955
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:52,680
an awkward movie. 
This is like watching a movie 

956
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,200
with mom and dad. 
It's a weird show. 

957
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,320
It's I love it. 
It's beautiful. 

958
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:57,720
It's crazy. 
It's. 

959
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:00,120
Fucking weird though. 
I saw it once with Emily. 

960
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,280
But it's like if you want to 
watch more of it, like the first

961
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,720
Hellboy. 
Even golden army. 

962
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:07,200
I think Golden Army is stylized 
more del Toro. 

963
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Oh, big time where? 
You have like the I think it's 

964
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,800
Mingiola is his name. 
The comics, they're very 

965
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,920
different, but it's still, it's 
like the same vibe but two 

966
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,720
different like filters put. 
On it. 

967
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,960
Oh yeah, you go back even 
further to like Blade 2. 

968
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,400
I never actually read those 
Dude, Blade was cool. 

969
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,920
Blade 2 was total. 
There was like the best blades 

970
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,640
out of all those movies because 
Guillermo did that one and his 

971
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,240
he's just got a very unique kind
of darkness. 

972
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,800
It's kind of like the same thing
with Ridley Scott with the 

973
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,680
Aliens. 
Aliens. 

974
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,960
Oh, I love aliens. 
Oh yeah, Covenant. 

975
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,040
I like the first one. 
I didn't like the second. 

976
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,400
I liked Prometheus. 
Yeah, Prometheus. 

977
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Beautifully, but it's these like
the actors are so stupid to me. 

978
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,800
Like I get it, they were given 
like the script. 

979
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,720
They have to follow that. 
But I'm like, dude, you're 

980
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:59,880
taking your helmet off on an 
unknown alien planet. 

981
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,280
Like, yeah, your scans initially
confirmed it's OK, but I'm like,

982
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,880
what if it wasn't? 
Yeah, like you'd never take your

983
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,720
helmet off. 
I'm like it is the most like 

984
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,120
beautiful looking movie 'cause 
it has all those gigger 

985
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,760
influences. 
In the Aliens. 

986
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,000
I'm like fuck it, as stupid as a
sci-fi movie. 

987
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,280
Yeah, but I mean, Michael 
Fassbender was awesome as the 

988
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,200
the Android. 
Oh, he's. 

989
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,240
So fucking creepy. 
Yeah, he is creepy. 

990
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,520
Like the first aliens, I can't 
remember the android's name, the

991
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,360
character. 
Yeah, the very first one. 

992
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,440
Alien. 
The very first. 

993
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,040
One in 1979. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know who 

994
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,480
you're talking about. 
But like he gives. 

995
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,280
The He was the guy who was Bilbo
Baggins. 

996
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Oh yeah. 
That's right. 

997
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:39,520
But yeah, like it's the same 
exact vibe of just like human 

998
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,320
enough but unnerving. 
Yeah. 

999
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,560
And like, that takes kind of 
some creepy acting. 

1000
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,200
It's like, what is his name? 
Hannibal Lecter. 

1001
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Oh, from the series? 
No, no, no. 

1002
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,480
From the. 
Lambs. 

1003
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,880
Oh yeah, Anthony Hopkins. 
Yeah, he can get real creepy 

1004
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,040
real fast. 
He plays. 

1005
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,040
Yeah, and Steve Carell too. 
Watch the movie. 

1006
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,960
Called Creepy. 
Yeah, watch the movie 

1007
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,360
Foxcatcher. 
True story about the heir to the

1008
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,680
DuPont fortune. 
He was all about wrestling. 

1009
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,800
What's DuPont? 
Why is that so familiar? 

1010
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,640
The oil. 
Company isn't it oil company 

1011
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,200
turn that they sell chemicals, 
paint, all sorts of they're 

1012
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,560
massive company. 
DuPont created napalm for the 

1013
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,160
military. 
Oh, so yeah, they they produce a

1014
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,360
lot of horrible things. 
Yeah, pesticides, tons of stuff 

1015
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,720
like that massive company, multi
multi generational. 

1016
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,920
But yeah, I lost my train. 
Of thought. 

1017
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,600
Sorry. 
Yeah, you know. 

1018
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,320
We're talking about, like, how 
unnerving Steve Carell could be.

1019
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,320
Yeah, but he is like the the 
makeup they do on him and he is 

1020
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,600
psychotic and he's like he he's 
trying to find like he wants to 

1021
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,640
create Olympic wrestler and he 
finds these two guys actual 

1022
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,960
wrestlers. 
He's going to end the whole 

1023
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,240
story about how he's just so 
hyper fixated on him about 

1024
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,360
winning that he ends up killing 
one of them because he was. 

1025
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,680
He's like, I don't want to do 
this anymore. 

1026
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,480
He's like, Nope bro. 
But he is really creepy in that 

1027
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,960
movie. 
The guy that made Spruce Goose 

1028
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,400
and all that stuff in Vegas he 
owned like the casinos. 

1029
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,440
Leonardo DiCaprio did like a 
autobiography movie of his. 

1030
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,080
Oh, the aviator. 
Yeah, I'm like, God damn, this 

1031
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,880
is like, this has got to be 
exaggerated for Hollywood now. 

1032
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,800
It went crazy. 
Absolutely bonkers. 

1033
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:26,120
Yeah, he he was so intelligent. 
Kind of reminds me of Elon Musk 

1034
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:31,960
where he's just super wealthy. 
He was an eccentric builder. 

1035
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,920
I mean, the Spruce Goose was 
supposed to be the largest plane

1036
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,200
to be able. 
It was like a water plane. 

1037
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,920
I was. 
Supposed to. 

1038
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,400
I think it was amphibious 
landing. 

1039
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
He. 

1040
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Just went off the rails and he 
ended up like locked up in what 

1041
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,280
is the casino. 
He locked up 'cause he bought 

1042
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,880
the whole place out. 
He locked himself in the 

1043
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,120
penthouse and just went psycho. 
He would like put like tissue 

1044
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,960
boxes on his feet and shit 
'cause he was so scared of germs

1045
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,520
towards the end. 
What? 

1046
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,720
Oh yeah, I don't remember that. 
I I went to the mob museum and 

1047
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:02,000
like they had like a whole 
section on how like the mob was 

1048
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,120
involved with Vegas being. 
Oh, yeah, like the Sands and 

1049
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,320
this like that. 
You watch there's I mean, it's 

1050
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,320
it's a dramatized timepiece, but
called Casino, Robert De Niro 

1051
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,520
and Joe Pesci and Sharon Stone. 
And it was, it's about like how 

1052
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,800
Vegas was built and how they 
built like these real 

1053
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,720
characters, real people in that 
time and how the mob just came 

1054
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:26,360
in there. 
And just like any competition, 

1055
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,200
they just kill him. 
And it was all from like New 

1056
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,600
Jersey, New York. 
They just can't put money out 

1057
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,960
there 'cause they're like, oh, 
and they had Mormons. 

1058
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,320
They're the. 
Mormon ports the old Mormon Fort

1059
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,920
if you played Fallout New Vegas.
Yeah, yeah. 

1060
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000
I think his name's Gannon. 
You find him at the old Mormon 

1061
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,080
Fort. 
Like there's a lot of very 

1062
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,640
historical things that they 
lifted straight out of, like 

1063
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,200
obviously Nevada, yeah, in like 
Good Springs. 

1064
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,280
I've been to Good Springs now 
and it's just like, I'm like, 

1065
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,040
yeah, I can see where they got 
all their inspiration from, like

1066
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,800
directly. 
So I'm like, I'm super excited 

1067
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,640
for the next season of Fallout 
coming out too. 

1068
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,320
I am too. 
I was surprised how much I liked

1069
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,480
that show. 
Have you never played Fallout? 

1070
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,840
Have. 
You I have not all the way 

1071
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,520
through which one? 
Fallout 4. 

1072
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,360
OK, that's not my favorite. 
No, there was a new. 

1073
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,160
Vegas Peak. 
Yeah, but New Vegas I couldn't 

1074
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,160
find on PS5 I think it was. 
You have my PC? 

1075
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,360
You can get it, I think, if you 
have the premium. 

1076
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,320
The premium, yeah, 'cause it's 
not you can't buy it to 

1077
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,240
download, it's like. 
You can only stream it. 

1078
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:30,360
Stream it if you pay for their 
top tier. 

1079
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,520
Service I agree 'cause it has a 
rich deep story, goes closer to 

1080
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,880
like the old fallout. 
Well, it has like, it's like, 

1081
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,440
has such a deep story, yeah, but
at the same time it's goofy as 

1082
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,920
fuck. 
Oh, have you ever played the the

1083
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,480
original Fallouts? 
The top down. 

1084
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,600
They are brutal though. 
The one is called Brotherhood of

1085
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,920
Steel. 
That one was awesome because 

1086
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,320
they actually had some like 
really good voice actors, But it

1087
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,400
was it's what like the movie, 
the the show that reminds me of 

1088
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,040
that. 
Oh yeah. 

1089
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,800
Because it's so in depth about 
the culture instead of just 

1090
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,240
running out because Ford. 
I agree. 

1091
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,680
Ford feels like just like a 
first person shooter. 

1092
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,920
It's a really good first person 
shooter, yeah, but it's not. 

1093
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,760
It's not fallout. 
Yeah, like lore, deep in story. 

1094
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,040
New Vegas and three, they the 
shooter sucks. 

1095
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,600
Like the shooting part. 
I'm like this is awful but like 

1096
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,040
the story. 
Is good. 

1097
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,840
Oh yeah, that's the part that's 
that's the hard thing to come 

1098
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,760
across. 
Now Brandon and I talk about is 

1099
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,920
a story. 
Driven game A good story driven 

1100
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,640
game. 
Yeah, like, I mean, Ghost to 

1101
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,960
Shishima was like the last one 
was like a really good story 

1102
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,080
driven action game. 
I was like, yeah, it's good, 

1103
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,640
it's fine. 
It was super. 

1104
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,440
Crazy long. 
Though, no. 

1105
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,680
It was short lived and it was 
like, OK, now what? 

1106
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,040
Are you an RP RPG nerd? 
Kind of like I don't like 

1107
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,800
definitely video games. 
I've never been able to get to 

1108
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,680
like tabletop stuff but. 
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm video game 

1109
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,760
tabletop. 
I'm too smooth brain for 

1110
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,800
tabletop. 
That's just I don't. 

1111
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,600
I can't capture it. 
We tried. 

1112
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,840
We tried some D&D with the 
friend of ours and we were just 

1113
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,240
sticking around and he was like 
really having to it. 

1114
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,560
Yeah, he's so. 
It's like I can see the fantasy 

1115
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,800
and the escapism. 
Like it's, no, it's no different

1116
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,120
than playing like Dragon Age. 
Totally. 

1117
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,840
Dragon Age is like you're seeing
it, the story told to you. 

1118
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,040
Yeah, well, is even. 
Yeah, Inquisition was awesome. 

1119
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,240
I loved inquisition. 
Dragon Age Origin is still top 

1120
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:19,800
tier though. 
I don't think I've ever played 

1121
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,720
Dragon Age. 
PS3 it's it was so it, it just 

1122
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:25,800
was different. 
It was way ahead of its time. 

1123
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,120
Well, and it was an extension of
like Baldur's Gate. 

1124
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,160
OK, but it felt like an action 
which really appealed to a lot 

1125
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,440
of. 
People strategy like you had the

1126
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:38,080
strategic like you'd have pause 
and then you just like, all 

1127
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,320
right, you plan this unit goes 
here, this unit or I think you 

1128
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,760
can do it like live to. 
But I always played like the 

1129
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,760
strategic, like you do this 
action, then this and then did 

1130
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:47,880
it. 
Like, it's really weird. 

1131
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Interesting. 
Is it like old World of Warcraft

1132
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,400
or StarCraft kind of game those?
Are like RTS like more or less 

1133
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,480
like. 
Yeah, top down. 

1134
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,480
It's more like it's RTS, but if 
you have like to play chess RTS 

1135
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,280
like RTS where like you have to 
stop and you get to think your 

1136
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,440
move, you're like, OK, this is 
optimal. 

1137
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,920
This, this happens. 
Like, have you ever played XCOM?

1138
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,200
Oh yeah. 
Not in ages. 

1139
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,920
It's like. 
Fucking brutal game. 

1140
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,360
It's like it's more of a 
thinking game than a shooter, if

1141
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,200
that makes sense. 
Yep. 

1142
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,680
You have to plan everything out 
your movement and your guys die 

1143
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,560
permanently. 
That's why I really got into 

1144
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,840
like a Nintendo like on the 
three DSI. 

1145
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,000
Really love that one. 
But the Fire Emblem? 

1146
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,920
Oh yeah. 
But the only one that I've 

1147
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,400
really liked was this one with I
can't remember what was called 

1148
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,800
Awakening. 
Fire Awakening was one of the 

1149
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,960
best and I love that game. 
Just deep story, but it was it 

1150
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,320
was it was grid based, turn 
based. 

1151
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But those games I I can actually

1152
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,120
enjoy. 
I don't know why I but it's just

1153
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,640
calming. 
It tickles like an analytical 

1154
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,760
part of my brain that yes, I 
optimize this absolutely to the 

1155
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,640
Max. 
Yeah, no, I, I it's exactly, I 

1156
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,000
got Tactics Ogre Reborn. 
It's like Final Fantasy Tactics.

1157
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,440
But even like Final Fantasy, in 
games like that, like the action

1158
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,800
with the RPG elements, we just 
don't get enough of those games.

1159
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,680
Now everything is just like 
fucking Fortnite. 

1160
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,840
Yeah, what are you been playing 
lately? 

1161
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:17,640
I long to play Oblivion remaster
but that's not happening. 

1162
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,920
I've been playing a lot of repo.
Repo. 

1163
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Repo the Have you seen the 
little trash can guys like? 

1164
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,400
No. 
What they're like, so like the 

1165
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,320
whole. 
I think my son plays. 

1166
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,440
This it's like lethal company, 
kind of. 

1167
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,480
OK, OK. 
Yeah. 

1168
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,560
Same vibe, but you're little 
robots and you have to like repo

1169
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,920
people stuff to like get to like
a certain value and then you 

1170
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,920
dump it. 
It's just a it. 

1171
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,360
It's so scary when you're alone,
'cause you're like, guys, where,

1172
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,680
where is everybody? 
Like, oh God, they're all dead. 

1173
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,240
And then like other when you're 
with them, you're like turn 

1174
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:51,080
around. 
You're like break a play, break 

1175
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,680
this, break that. 
It's funny as fuck. 

1176
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,160
It's like the like the dichotomy
of it. 

1177
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,720
Yeah, it's just hilarious. 
Maybe I've check it out. 

1178
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,000
I've never heard of that. 
That's on PC, right? 

1179
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,360
It's on PC right now, yeah. 
Do you play console? 

1180
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,440
I actually really I don't for 
like multiplayer. 

1181
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,960
I have like Final Fantasy remake
on PlayStation 4, like a bunch 

1182
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,920
of single player games, like the
closest I've come to like 

1183
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,920
multiplayer games. 
Did you finish Remake? 

1184
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,600
No, I I played the original and 
it has, it's the stupidest, most

1185
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,640
horribly written game, but it 
has my heart 'cause it was like 

1186
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,160
the first video game I ever 
owned. 

1187
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:29,880
It it's past halfway, it gets 
less stupid and when you finish 

1188
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,880
it, it makes you pumped for the 
second. 

1189
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,000
I bought the second one. 
It's like 140 gig. 

1190
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,040
It's a pretty big game Gameplay 
is like amazing. 

1191
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:45,040
The story is really robust now, 
like how it felt like when you 

1192
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,440
play Final Fight, you go to the 
second disc and now you're going

1193
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,360
in through more open world. 
This feels like it, but it's 

1194
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,200
like it's so massive and I'm 
just like, I'm not ready for all

1195
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,880
this, I think. 
That's part of my problem with 

1196
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,680
some of those games. 
I'm just like, Oh my God, they 

1197
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,880
took my childhood and blew it up
to like 10 times. 

1198
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,160
Yeah, I'm so overwhelmed right 
now. 

1199
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,720
Me too. 
I I was just like just so 

1200
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,880
awesome. 
Like that came out when I was in

1201
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,360
the Navy and I was just like, 
oh, this is so cool. 

1202
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,360
But I couldn't get into it at 
the time. 

1203
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:15,960
Yeah. 
And then now it's just like when

1204
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,920
I got older, I really got into 
those games. 

1205
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,200
But other than that, like I, I 
like playing with other people, 

1206
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,400
but I like to play like how 
Brandon and I play. 

1207
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,240
We we race, we'll play tactical 
games and it's just fun. 

1208
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:30,520
But like, it's hard. 
There's like not a lot of other 

1209
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,600
games that we used to have. 
I knew so many people funny 

1210
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,680
enough in the military that 
played like Mmos. 

1211
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,520
Oh yeah. 
And it's like, I played with 

1212
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,160
like, again, unsupervised free 
range parenting here. 

1213
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,200
Played a freaking MMO from like 
the age of like 13 until like 

1214
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,160
25. 
I'm just becoming like, God 

1215
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,120
damn, if I would have devoted 
all that time to like, I don't 

1216
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,920
know, learning math or 
something. 

1217
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,800
Maybe I could be like some kind 
of accountant at least. 

1218
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,280
I mean, I mean, you, you read at
a collegiate level. 

1219
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,120
So. 
Yeah. 

1220
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,000
You know, I mean, there's that. 
That's great. 

1221
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,520
Yeah. 
Math that's. 

1222
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:04,760
Goddamn actuary. 
Fucking math. 

1223
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,920
No one ever got far with math. 
I mean, have you seen what 

1224
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,200
technology does now? 
It's like, I know even growing 

1225
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,600
up you'll never have a 
calculator with you all the 

1226
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,920
time. 
And I'm like, well, now you have

1227
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,960
he's. 
In front of him, right? 

1228
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,240
Now, yeah, did. 
You ever seen that movie called 

1229
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:19,760
Iron Sky? 
No. 

1230
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,680
Where the Nazis come attacking 
from the moon? 

1231
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,600
No. 
Yeah, They stay up there. 

1232
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,240
It's the funniest premise 
because they capture an 

1233
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,720
astronaut from the US and he's 
black and they bring him in 

1234
00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:33,760
there and they're like, tell us 
why you're. 

1235
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,280
Yeah. 
And he's just like, I'm just on 

1236
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:36,960
the moon. 
I'm. 

1237
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,800
I'm an astronaut. 
And they go, well, what is this 

1238
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,560
thing? 
He goes, oh that's my kick ass 

1239
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,760
computer. 
And he goes that is not a 

1240
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,640
computer. 
They open up this humongous old 

1241
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,920
school room with these machines.
Like Warring goes, this is a 

1242
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,800
computer. 
I actually like, I really like. 

1243
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,200
I know it probably wasn't retro 
future then, but like yeah it 

1244
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:59,960
was a retro. 
Future. 

1245
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:02,880
Oh, it's it's so cool. 
Iron Sky. 

1246
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,920
Look it up because it is the 
weirdest movie because Iron Sky 

1247
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,240
2 comes there where they come 
back for the Nazis come to 

1248
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:13,240
attack Earth and they have a 
Transosaurus Rex that they ride.

1249
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:14,800
OK. 
I I raised you that, but you got

1250
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,400
to watch hundreds of Beavers. 
What I. 

1251
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,400
Is this a porno? 
No, no, it's, it's legit like 

1252
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,160
just a weird movie. 
It's it's 100%, maybe most PG13.

1253
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,680
Hundreds of Beavers. 
Iron. 

1254
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,320
Sky Iron. 
Sky, Iron Sky 'cause I'm all 

1255
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,480
about obscure movies like 'cause
you grew up during that time 

1256
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,400
too, you got. 
The bootleg HBO from your like 

1257
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,480
cousins or something? 
There was neighbors, yeah. 

1258
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,000
Oh see, we didn't have any 
neighbors where I was at, so we 

1259
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,360
couldn't bootleg anybody's 
cable. 

1260
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,960
No, no, no, they would ever. 
That was his family. 

1261
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,960
I told you about the Haydens, 
all red headed girls. 

1262
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,840
The dad worked for the steel 
refinery that used to be here. 

1263
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,880
And yeah, it was just a 
disgusting house. 

1264
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,320
It's like an ogre took a shit on
it and then they just didn't 

1265
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,160
clean it up. 
I mean, there was like the, the,

1266
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,120
the floor was just smeared with 
whatever fluids and dirt were on

1267
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,240
the ground. 
And they have. 

1268
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,600
Like animals or? 
Something. 

1269
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,240
No, Just. 
Nasty people. 

1270
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,640
Just now, I mean like when you 
went into the house, it's kind 

1271
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,920
of like the feeling if you ever 
played Resident Evil bio, that 

1272
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,480
fucking game. 
Terrified me. 

1273
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,960
The the first person 1 yes where
you're in the house with the 

1274
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,520
crazy family and you're like 
going through places are dark 

1275
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,480
parts of wood are broken off 
that's what this house was like 

1276
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,400
I. 
Can't play first person horror 

1277
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,480
games I have to watch playing 
'cause I'm too much of A 

1278
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,640
chicken. 
Oh, I would love to do that one 

1279
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:38,440
in VR. 
Oh. 

1280
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,480
God no that that. 
Genuinely so terrible the. 

1281
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,440
Crazy shit starts happening. 
That could just be like fucking 

1282
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,560
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, though.
That could really happen. 

1283
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,240
Yeah, unlikely statistically. 
But it could, yeah, definitely. 

1284
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Because it sounds like one of 
these really fucked up things, 

1285
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,400
like he just stumbled across 
this. 

1286
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,960
Like in a meth house somewhere 
or some? 

1287
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,200
Yeah, or like any type of Eli 
Roth movie. 

1288
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,000
But didn't he do green Hell 
where there's like college kids 

1289
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,480
are like let's go discover the 
Amazon and then they get picked 

1290
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,160
up by this cannibal tribe have. 
You had Cannibal Holocaust. 

1291
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,280
Oh, I've heard about it. 
I couldn't. 

1292
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,600
Go. 
Is that an elector series? 

1293
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,960
What was that cannibal? 
No, no, no, it's not anything to

1294
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,560
do with Hannibal Lecter. 
OK. 

1295
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,280
I've watched it with Emily. 
Actually it is. 

1296
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,240
Wasn't it banned in several 
countries because of it? 

1297
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,040
Just considered too violent. 
Right. 

1298
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,720
Yeah, holy shit. 
Yeah, 'cause that that used to 

1299
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,960
get, you don't see it anymore. 
I don't think they'll even allow

1300
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,560
it. 
But NC 17 was all those like, 

1301
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,240
you know, because the ratings 
for porn, Yeah, yeah, they're, 

1302
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,280
yeah. 
Horror porn, pretty much. 

1303
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,400
It's just. 
And then you had like Eli Roth 

1304
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,360
come out with like Hostel where 
they're like. 

1305
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,840
Oh yeah, hostel. 
Is way more brutal in. 

1306
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,440
My mind though, and. 
It's just gore. 

1307
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,760
And it's, well, it stemmed a 
whole thing from there. 

1308
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,440
Like, there was a lot of super 
gory, Yeah. 

1309
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,120
Saw and all that shit. 
I feel like at that time I was 

1310
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,400
just trying to push like push 
the extreme, push the extreme, 

1311
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,080
push the extreme, which from 
like. 

1312
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,000
A makeup standpoint, like just 
like the special effects. 

1313
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,440
I'm like, OK, like I see why 
this is fucking cool from one 

1314
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,000
person. 
Other people are like, Oh my 

1315
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,720
God, this is so like. 
But a lot of it was like, these 

1316
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,960
stories weren't as good in some 
of them. 

1317
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,200
And I'm like, it's just the 
most. 

1318
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,600
Creative way to kill people. 
That's the final. 

1319
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,440
Destination, yeah. 
Which kind of like not gonna 

1320
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,280
lie. 
It was like that scary movie 

1321
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,000
movies, You've ever those 
movies. 

1322
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,520
Yeah, the web where they got, 
they have this Saw thing and 

1323
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,240
they're like, you know, she's 
got this thing on her head and 

1324
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,680
the guy's got this thing where 
this probe's gonna go right up 

1325
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,480
his ass as if a timer goes off 
and she's like, and then they 

1326
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,120
get free of it and she goes, 
kid, can I put this on? 

1327
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,280
Those movies are hilarious. 
I. 

1328
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,000
Haven't seen that in. 
Oh man, that was so funny. 

1329
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,600
I. 
Don't think I've gotten to that 

1330
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,200
scary movie I kind of gave up 
after like the ring one. 

1331
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,560
Oh yeah, no, no, no, that's like
3 or something. 

1332
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,560
It's just these clips. 
They're funny, but yeah, the 

1333
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,160
whole movie. 
I I totally agree. 

1334
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,840
Like going back and watching 
movies that you grew up with. 

1335
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,240
Sometimes it blows my mind. 
I'm like holy shit this was 

1336
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,840
terrible. 
Yeah, it was so bad. 

1337
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,360
See, like there's a lot of like 
he he movies and like people 

1338
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,040
like this is my childhood. 
I didn't watch till I was an 

1339
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,720
adult. 
I was like, I get the appeal, 

1340
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,040
but it ain't for me like. 
You know, I I am convinced that 

1341
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,280
Michael Bay is a shitty 
director. 

1342
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,200
What is he direct? 
Transformers bad boys. 

1343
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,960
I like the Rock, that was my 
favorite. 

1344
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Like he's such a he's a good 
meme. 

1345
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,280
He is a good meme, great meme, 
but it's just like, that's the 

1346
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,440
only one I can think. 
I'm like, I like that because 

1347
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,360
all of his movies are the same. 
I watched my wife and I when we 

1348
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,520
were first married, we watched 
All the Bad Boys and we thought 

1349
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,760
those are funny and and good 
action. 

1350
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,640
And then the third one came out,
the geriatric version. 

1351
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,680
And so we go to see that one and
I'm like, this is fucking 

1352
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,080
stupid. 
And I was like, the movies 

1353
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,880
aren't that bad. 
And we went back and watched 

1354
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,000
them. 
She's like, turn it off. 

1355
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,280
This is so fucking bad. 
This is so bad. 

1356
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,040
Isn't that terrible though? 
You think? 

1357
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,440
It's like this, This was so good
and you watching like, oh how 

1358
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,840
that was garbage. 
How did I like that? 

1359
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,120
There are some really good ones 
like The Godfather. 

1360
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,280
Did you ever see The Godfather? 
Ever watch it through it's it's 

1361
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,440
a fucking it's like a as a kid, 
as a boring adult movie. 

1362
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,880
Kind of Oh yeah, no, you can 
appreciate it now. 

1363
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,600
More on the style, but the 
culture of the time and and how 

1364
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,640
like terrifying it was with the 
mob being around. 

1365
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,760
Like we don't, I mean we have 
like cartels and stuff like that

1366
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,200
and that's horrible in its own 
self. 

1367
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,800
But the way that they did things
was so brutal. 

1368
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,360
It's like how they deal with it 
down in South America. 

1369
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,960
Yeah, it's the culture was 
again, very brutal. 

1370
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,960
Mob Museum was the Mob museum 
over in Vegas. 

1371
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,480
It's fascinating. 
Yeah, how many bodies are buried

1372
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,120
out there in the desert? 
They have towards the end like a

1373
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,400
very big wall and it tells you 
like the what this person was 

1374
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,680
famous for, like more minor 
mobsters, what happened to them,

1375
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,160
how many like death attempts 
there were on their life and 

1376
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,280
like all these stats and just 
tells you their story. 

1377
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,040
It's really cool. 
That's crazy. 

1378
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,440
There was like a couple female 
mobsters too. 

1379
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,120
Oh yeah, I believe. 
Not many, but there were a few. 

1380
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,640
You ever seen the movie 
Goodfellas? 

1381
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,640
Oh, watch that I. 
Need to watch more like adult 

1382
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,080
Movies Now that I actually have 
like an attention span. 

1383
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,080
No, it's a good state. 
It's a true story about this guy

1384
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,480
named Henry Hill from when he 
was a kid getting involved in 

1385
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,440
the mob and then his rise and 
ascension in the mob and then 

1386
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,400
what happened and the big fall 
and all this other stuff. 

1387
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,040
The guy is still in witness 
protection and they he did this 

1388
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,880
movie and it was. 
It's insane. 

1389
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,640
It's really cool because it's 
all true, but it's exactly that.

1390
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,520
Like how horrible they were to 
each other and what they 

1391
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,120
constantly were trying to kill 
each other. 

1392
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,800
That's pretty fucked up. 
Oh yeah, I mean. 

1393
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,880
And it's just the life. 
Yeah, like, yeah, I don't know. 

1394
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,080
So now you have an online Etsy. 
Do you have a name for it? 

1395
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,720
It's apathetic. 
Apparel. 

1396
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:58,720
Uh huh. 
Yeah. 

1397
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,960
I think that's what all my 
socials are too, Something like 

1398
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,600
that. 
Apathetic Apparel Co. 

1399
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,360
Something along those lines 
depending on the handle. 

1400
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,360
What's the What's the focus? 
It's like, kind of like black 

1401
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,840
metal theming or like like album
covers. 

1402
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,600
Oh cool. 
Kind of like you would see that 

1403
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,600
like on an album cover or 
something and just like kind of 

1404
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,200
more dark theming. 
Yeah, art and stuff. 

1405
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,120
Art. 
Yeah. 

1406
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,120
So did you like cover art for 
bands? 

1407
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,960
I don't. 
I used to actually do a lot of 

1408
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,880
art and then I just let those 
skills kind of go to shit. 

1409
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,560
Like I could do like a decent 
sketch, but I usually will work 

1410
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,640
with an artist on like I have a 
couple that I work with fairly 

1411
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,800
regularly that like I was like, 
here's my rough draft, make it, 

1412
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,120
make it cool. 
Yeah, yeah, you get. 

1413
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,960
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. 
So you so do you create custom 

1414
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,240
for anybody or you just like you
theme it and then you put? 

1415
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,280
It out there theme it. 
I'd like to eventually start 

1416
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,440
doing some like limited time 
drop kind of things like I I 

1417
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,960
have like a mind and I like 
something in mind for like 420 

1418
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,960
maybe next year. 
Very cool. 

1419
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,880
That's awesome. 
Yeah, Everybody go check that 

1420
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:01,840
out. 
That's really cool. 

1421
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,360
I love the theme about that 
because that's the one thing 

1422
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,840
that products lack is soul. 
And when you don't have a soul, 

1423
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,200
it's just random. 
Like you know it it's a 

1424
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,480
difference of having a certain 
type of apparel. 

1425
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,360
You're like, I don't want to get
any oil stains on it or anything

1426
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,160
like that because you're like, 
this is something that I. 

1427
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,680
Well, like I I like a good 
T-shirt. 

1428
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:21,080
Who? 
Doesn't. 

1429
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,360
Yeah, like hell yeah. 
I would like eventually maybe 

1430
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,040
like to go or more into like a 
cut and sew or something like 

1431
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,200
that, but for now. 
Progression. 

1432
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,000
Progression, yeah. 
But that's cool theme shirts, I 

1433
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,960
love that. 
Yeah, I love it. 

1434
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,960
We'll put all the links in it. 
We'll check them out. 

1435
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:42,440
If this episode was the Gospel 
of Ruth, what would the last 

1436
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,840
line be? 
Same bad time, same bad place. 

1437
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,120
All right, guys. 
Take care.

