1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,080 Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,720 And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,400 about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape flower 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,040 edibles. Strains. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:23,840 And everything in between. Today we are actually checking 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,360 out one of our local favorite dispensaries and companies, 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Dragonfly Wellness. Yeah, Dragonfly has been really 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,840 good to us. We were able to meet with them, 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,160 but man, they've got some fantastic products. 10 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:37,640 Yeah, they do. And I just remembered. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,880 So the strain we're going to talk about today is Cindy 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,800 Cheese. It's one of their. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,160 Great name, right? Betty, Betty Wellness is one of 14 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:49,200 Dragonfly's lines within there and this is one of their 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,200 strains. So Dragonfly actually works with 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,200 or they have a an arm of their business called Utah Grown right 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,320 across the street that you can go get your cards from. 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,360 And we learned recently that in Utah there's companies that 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,840 offer a $25 medical card. Now that $25 medical card 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,640 actually ends up being around $65. 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,080 And then sometimes if your insurance still makes you pay 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,040 for an office visit or something else, because I don't know if 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,160 this would totally cover under a general doctor's visit. 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,080 So then you might have to pay out of pocket on top of that, 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,800 making it even more than just the Utah groans. 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,120 Always $70.00 medical cards. Yeah, and they're really focused 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,040 on being able to help out the education while you're there, 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,960 being really upfront with you. We've experienced, you know, 29 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:40,520 we've got our medical cards here. 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,440 We didn't get them from Dragonfly. 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,000 Our next ones definitely will be, but that's like a year away, 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,960 almost a year away. So it is. 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,920 One of the things that we really liked about them though is their 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,160 real particular focus on quality. 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,320 And I know that sounds ridiculous, but how many quality 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,040 products have you had in your life with cannabis and now talk 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,440 about all of the nasty? Stuff you've had even. 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,640 So-called producers. Yeah, so going from like legacy 39 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:16,280 Gray market or even the dispensaries, I have had flour 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,840 from dispensaries in Denver and carts from dispensaries in 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,240 Denver that has been just pure garbage and has beaten like I've 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,600 had hemp from Utah that has beaten out some of the flour 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,360 that I have gotten from Denver sometimes. 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,360 And I'm like, this is horrible, but but it's the cultivar. 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,800 It goes a lot into the care and everything that is behind it. 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,000 So they have these, it's a pod system, Dragonflies, all their 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,440 carts and that that they do and the Betty's are all pods. 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,640 Obviously we're not a massive fan of pods, but I actually 49 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:55,160 haven't had too many issues with clogging or anything with with 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,560 the pods from them. No, I carry it in my pocket. 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,160 You have the white one, I have the black one. 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,240 They're actually printing us some of these batteries with the 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,760 cannabis school logo on them and so we'll see if that's something 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,160 that they can offer and you guys can get as well. 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,800 Yeah, these pod systems, they're close to the Stizzy. 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,680 I would say it's identical to the Stizzy system. 57 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,680 Yeah, probably. You could fit a stizzy in here. 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,760 Do you have a stizzy battery at home still? 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Yeah. You should try one of these 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,840 carts in it when you do and see and we'll. 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,280 Let you know, it's really cool, but their brand's pretty nice, 62 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,360 but their products are really high end. 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,080 So I'm excited about it. So Brent, tell us about where, 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,880 what's the terpene profile on this? 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Before we get into terpenes, the genetic line of that is actually 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,920 from Cindy 99. My guess is that's a Cinderella 67 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,800 99, but it's a sativa. And then the indica dominant 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,080 cheese strain. And I love cheese strain. 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,160 That's a cheesy strain, dude. Yeah, so, Cindy Cheese, the 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Terpenes. Oh my gosh, the most dominant 71 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,200 one is limiting, but it's also got Betacerifiline, Humaline, 72 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Linole and betamirosine. What? 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,720 What kind of cheese is that? I have no idea. 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,440 You tell me, what do you taste again? 75 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Dude, that's weird. Yeah, so this one's really good 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,160 for, like, pain. If you're working all day on 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,280 your feet or doing instruction or anything manual labor, this 78 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:28,160 is a good, like pain relief one. This is good. 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,800 It's upbeat too, with the amount of leavening that's in this, 80 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,040 it's way focused on no racing heart. 81 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,280 Now you can still get kind of racing heart with those types of 82 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,760 strangers, depending on what else is with it. 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,560 The beta carophiline can definitely aid in that, but I 84 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,880 really like the cheese strain. It's a it's hard to say. 85 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,080 It's like it's like a gouda almost for me, like it's a very 86 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,160 strange to have that, but it's very tasty. 87 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,600 The beta caraphiline hits you again, dude. 88 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,360 It's that pepper in the back of the throat. 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Right in the eyes. But it's clear. 90 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,400 It's really clear. I like it. 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,880 I'm feeling it going course through me. 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Not heavy anywhere. That pepper still in the back of 93 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,320 my throat though. Wow. 94 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,200 Yeah, this went, like, right behind my eyes. 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,080 Really. Yeah. 96 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,360 But this one's been a good daytime strain. 97 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,360 Yeah, a great work strain. Enough of the pain relief that I 98 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,360 can get out of my back and really get into my work. 99 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,000 So it's got enough of the sativa like effects that I can really 100 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,800 focus hone in and enough of the pain relieving properties that I 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,040 can come out of my back into my head. 102 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,320 God, that sounded weird. But like, you know what I mean 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,640 Where I'm so focused on that and I can get out of that and 104 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,960 actually focus. It becomes such a great tool for 105 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,120 work. Yeah, yeah, I agree. 106 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,080 But it's it's not not Foggy. It's a pretty clear headed 107 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,320 strain. Yeah, it's good. 108 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,440 I mean, it's not, it's not an illuminating strain. 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,800 It's an awake strain. I appreciate that first hit 110 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,840 though. I felt it like it hit me like 111 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:13,680 right behind the eyes. I don't feel it behind my eyes 112 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:19,360 anymore, but it's really nice. And in the dosing again, going 113 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,120 to What's in your cart is concentrated oil in there? 114 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,880 What's the percentage of THC in this one? 115 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,000 77.92. Yeah, good amount here. 116 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:40,560 But it's also got THCVCBD 4.4% CPG, 3% CBC and 2.6% CBN so. 117 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Yeah, that's the dativeness that you feel at first is the CBN, 118 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,920 but it's a it's very short lived. 119 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,520 This is one of the things I really liked about Dragonfly's 120 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,120 products is they've actually had such a wider range of 121 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,720 cannabinoids and terpenes on all of their products. 122 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,280 So I would say that the experience from the pens and the 123 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:03,560 flower that we've had from them has been really good. 124 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Oh yeah, You know, one of the cool things I like on their 125 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,880 website, they have this set other patients have found these 126 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,320 products effective for. And it says pain is the top one. 127 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,640 I could kind of see that. Relaxed. 128 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,440 Yeah, kind of relaxed, focused, I feel focused, nausea. 129 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,720 So that's. Pretty cool. 130 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Yeah. Happier. 131 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Interesting. You know, a little bit of sleep. 132 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,440 I don't feel like asleep. This is nice. 133 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,680 You know what I like it said about hunger. 134 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,720 I don't feel munchies on this. Yeah, I didn't really get only 135 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,560 1% of people reported feeling hungry, but that could also have 136 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,800 been them at the time. Maybe they hadn't eaten. 137 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,440 There's a lot of factors that go into that, but yeah, it's not 138 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,160 really a munchy kind of strain. I like it because it's Cindy 139 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,640 cheese. Yeah, I'm gonna get that next. 140 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,120 Time. I get a lot of cheesy notes, 141 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,920 unlike the after notes in my mouth. 142 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Oh, totally. And it's very it's a stronger 143 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,760 cheese, you know, It's not like a blue like I like blue cheese 144 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,160 strains. They're all. 145 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,720 The same. So good. 146 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,920 Or like the gassy kind of cheese ones too. 147 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Yeah, I love those. It's been interesting because 148 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,880 when I first got into cannabis, some of the skunkier, cheesier, 149 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,560 gassier tones I didn't like, I didn't see that as much, but I 150 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,200 was also very much using it to. Just get high. 151 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,880 And not my pain, like not my back pain, but it was also like 152 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,400 I had been heavily drinking because I had gone through 153 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,280 divorce recently. And but 2 1/2 years have 154 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,680 separated before that, which was just a cluster fuck of a mess. 155 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:53,800 And so, like, I definitely, definitely used cannabis at some 156 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,040 point to I think. Numb it out. 157 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:01,920 Oh, the interesting thing is, I actually thought more because I 158 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,840 found more strains that would make me introspective or make me 159 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,840 think about things that I just hadn't thought about. 160 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,640 Cannabis truly became like this tool for me to look at my life 161 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:16,600 where I hadn't, at least not the same. 162 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,120 And so I I I don't feel like I've truly ever numbed from it. 163 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:28,720 And in fact, there's a God, there's a moment of really 164 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:35,320 shitty moment in my life and my kids life that my ex had called 165 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,960 me and just I was with Casey and she told me something had 166 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,720 happened to my kids. And that night all my friends 167 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,320 were hanging out and they were drinking and my kids were down 168 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,560 in another state and I couldn't get to them. 169 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,840 That day they asked if I wanted to drink with them and I just, I 170 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,320 was like, no, no, I I shouldn't do that because I knew if I 171 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,080 drank I would get in this spiraling down mindset and it 172 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,760 wouldn't, it wouldn't help me. So instead, that night I just, I 173 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,960 smoked a lot. In that moment I I had 174 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,480 perspectives and insights that I never would have had. 175 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:23,880 I saw I came out of that night with a different, a different 176 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,040 thing in my head. And so I've never actually found 177 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,720 that cannabis for me has been numbing. 178 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Most of the time it just numbs racing thoughts, but that just 179 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,520 allows me to truly focus on what is actually important or needed 180 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,920 at that moment. Sometimes that's relaxing, 181 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,040 sometimes that's to get some shit done, sometimes that's to 182 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,360 talk with someone. It just depends on the moment. 183 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:56,520 But for me, it's never been something to numb the mind. 184 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,600 And sorry for that random long tangent, I just. 185 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,880 No, don't be. I mean you know, this is the 186 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,200 thing, you know when you you describe that right there about 187 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,280 it's not the numbing of feelings, it's the numbing of 188 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,520 the racing thoughts. Because when we are in a state 189 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:18,840 of frustration or anger or sadness and it's overwhelming, 190 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,440 our minds tend to go real quickly to the worst case 191 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,280 scenario and then we overreact or we under react, you know, 192 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:29,880 because we're there. When when you have cannabis, it 193 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,040 allows it to be the catalyst of of calm and reason. 194 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,480 And that's the one, you know, kind of some of the things we 195 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,440 talk about, Like if if we're upset about something and we're 196 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,960 just like maybe get in a fight with your girlfriend or I'm just 197 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,640 really frustrated with what my wife just said and I'm like, 198 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,720 fuck, I want to fight and I'm just going to go. 199 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,400 What's the fight or flight mode that you get into? 200 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,400 And it's like, is that the best moment to handle that situation? 201 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,160 Is in that fight or flight mode? Well, is the person that you are 202 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,160 talking to, like is there a threat? 203 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Is there truly a threat or is it just like anger perceived from 204 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,080 the situation and what was said? And like, we can react from 205 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,520 emotion because that's what most are like. 206 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Reactions are from emotion. It's like something triggers us 207 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,880 and we react because some emotion pushed us to do this. 208 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,040 Yeah it's the IT. It really is like that's I I'm, 209 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,480 I'm, I'm happy that you didn't go to alcohol. 210 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,600 And I, you know, I still remember I was talking to my 211 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,160 wife about it not too long ago. Just talking about having a 212 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,920 drink. You know, like every once in a 213 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,320 while, like I don't, I don't mind. 214 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,680 And but even now, like now, more so than ever, I have no desire 215 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,120 for it because I know what happens. 216 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,600 And I regardless of the physical feelings I have, it's the 217 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,720 emotional roller coaster if everything is just right and 218 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,600 it's a good time. Some of my best times of my 219 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,440 life, I was so fucking drunk. Oh yeah, I've had amazing 220 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,520 moments with it, but I've also had. 221 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Bad moments, yeah. Some of my worst moments, some 222 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,280 of the like dumbest decisions in my life that normally I would 223 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,560 not make. Truly, man, I I think back to 224 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:15,160 the times where I've yelled at my sons and gotten so angry with 225 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,120 them and to the point where I'm I'm, I'm not realizing that I'm 226 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,560 much bigger than they are and I'm much more aggressive than 227 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:25,200 they are. And it comes from my upbringing. 228 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,200 But dude, it it has nothing to do with it right then and there. 229 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,480 And often, you know, my wife had said she's like, you know, I 230 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,040 just kind of feel like you're taking too much. 231 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Sometimes I'm like, yeah, because I'm overwhelmed and I 232 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,720 don't want to lash out at everybody, but I still want to 233 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,200 have a lucid conversation. You don't want to react, you 234 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,680 want to respond. How? 235 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:50,160 I you know the amount of cannabis as far as, like if we 236 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,840 compared milligram to milligram of effective chemicals that 237 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,720 alter your mind state, and you take alcohol at the same amount 238 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,600 on alcohol percentage as you would with cannabis, you're 239 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,200 gonna be slurring your speech. You're not gonna make sense. 240 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,200 You're gonna you won't be able to really hone in on what you're 241 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,680 trying to say. And you might stagger around 242 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:14,560 like you're you're not. Not well. 243 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,200 Coherent you're not. Safe and like it's not. 244 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,720 If you green out you, you don't argue with anybody, you're. 245 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,960 You sit there quietly. Yeah, you're take a nap. 246 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Try to, yeah, you're just like. Fuck, this sucks. 247 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Depends on where you're at, right? 248 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Right. But thinking about it like no, I 249 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,120 mean I'm and I'm glad you went off that and thanks for sharing 250 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,640 that because that's it's hard. But it knowing that you know 251 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,160 that's a great example for for those who are listening and or 252 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,520 who are watching. If you are in this place where 253 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,520 you're so reactive to the situation and it only can be a 254 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,440 bad for you later on. And I know a lot of it was 255 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,000 thinking like if anybody did something to my kids I would 256 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,640 fucking kill them. I get that. 257 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,920 I totally do. But also knowing that we need to 258 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,720 learn everything before you start loading up the weapon. 259 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Like if it was crazy. I mean, just horrible your 260 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,280 situation. I think that's the only thing 261 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,360 that saved me from being in prison today is the fact that 262 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,120 they were thousands of miles away, because otherwise that 263 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:24,800 night someone would have died. And I think that time to reflect 264 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:32,160 was, I mean it was life changing and it's been just that was 265 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,680 fucking hard. Yeah. 266 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,280 But, like, that's why I'm, I know that this has made me so 267 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,120 much better as a person, as a parent, as a father, as, like a 268 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,920 friend, as a son, as, like an employee, as just a human. 269 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,600 Because I don't. I still react sometimes. 270 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:00,880 And I Oh, yeah, it's my dad, like how I grew up, you know, 271 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,000 And I look at things and I'm like, I hate when I react. 272 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:10,240 I love when I respond when I show up as what my kid or my 273 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,280 partner or my friend needs. Not with the reaction based on 274 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,880 emotion of what I perceived or heard at that moment. 275 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,880 Because sometimes it's not, as we know by going through NLP, so 276 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,280 much miscommunicated. And the words that are always 277 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,600 said is not always what's meant. And sometimes what's meant is 278 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,000 not what's said. And it's just it's this thing 279 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,200 that you we don't realize and we don't always look at the other 280 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,840 person and go, hey, what just said, like what was just said, 281 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,440 OK, well, I don't know everything that's going on in 282 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,360 that person's life today. I don't know everything that's 283 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,040 going on in that person's head today. 284 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:54,280 No, I just reacted. But maybe that person's parent 285 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,040 just died. Maybe they just got in a fight 286 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,520 with their spouse. Yeah. 287 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,280 You know, maybe they just like got divorced. 288 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,280 Like you have no idea what's going on in that person's life. 289 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,480 I have a an experience with my daughter. 290 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,839 She's at school and she had one of her friends that wrote her a 291 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:17,040 letter and it was basically like, I hate you. 292 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,319 And she was like, I don't, I don't know what I did. 293 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,480 I don't know what happened. And a friend had said that to 294 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,480 like her and a couple other people. 295 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:35,200 And then it turned out that she had just not brought her a 296 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,800 sucker. But at home, that kid, they're 297 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,240 12 now, almost. And that kids family is going 298 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:50,000 through potential divorce. And as a child that fucks up 299 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,080 your whole home. It fucks up your entire life. 300 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,440 And so then that changes your entire reality and your world. 301 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,800 And how many people, like, question their reality and their 302 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:05,240 world or like things they're taught are like, it's just it's 303 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,080 always hard and sometimes when it's not something you're 304 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,840 looking for and it just happens and shatters that reality, that 305 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,160 can be incredibly hard. And so then we react because 306 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,840 we're already in this massive place filled with just 307 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,320 overwhelming emotion. So then we just snap or react 308 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,440 and it's like we don't know what's going on. 309 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,440 But this is given the ability to actually like not always. 310 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,360 Obviously I'm still working on that all the time. 311 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,720 But given me more times that I have responded or if I do react, 312 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,080 I realize, hey, I am reacting and I need to go take a minute 313 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,840 so I can come back and respond or that we can have this 314 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,760 discussion or that something. Because the state that I'm in 315 00:18:53,760 --> 00:19:00,400 is, is emotional 100%. Whether it's sad, angry, mad, 316 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,240 like hurt, any of those are all secondary emotions usually 317 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,240 they're all stemming from something else. 318 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,040 So if you can look back and go, what's causing this? 319 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,080 Why am I like this? Why am I pissed right now? 320 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,160 Why am I hurt right now like and and then come back and go, hey, 321 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,920 I'm, I'm really sorry. I was frustrated and this is me 322 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,720 realizing this or this is this. But I'm trying to work now and 323 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,200 understand why you're feeling this way or or why you're saying 324 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,240 this thing or why this thing is happening. 325 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,840 Let's work together now instead of, you know, me realizing that 326 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,920 it's just this immediate emotion. 327 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,640 So I'm butting heads. If I can take this step back, I 328 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,120 can readdress it from a clear head and go, hey, maybe this 329 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,080 isn't personal. Maybe they're not trying to do 330 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,800 this. Maybe what they said didn't mean 331 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,840 what I heard, but maybe that's just what I perceived at that 332 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,720 moment. And so coming back and 333 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,760 clarifying, go, hey, I'm, I'm sorry, but you said this and 334 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,880 this is what I took it as. Yeah, perception is projection. 335 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Like, that's OK to go, because then maybe they're like, oh 336 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,840 shit, hey, I'm really sorry. This is actually what I meant, 337 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,440 because it's always in the communication of everything 338 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,360 unsaid. How much is left unsaid? 339 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,960 Yeah, it's the the greatest regret we have man, is not 340 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,800 being, is is being misunderstood because it's usually not with 341 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,880 that and you know and to kind of go back to this. 342 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520 So this is a. As you can tell, this is a very 343 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,800 introspective strain. Very. 344 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,800 You can. No, no, but I mean no. 345 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,400 It beyond chatty though. I think it's it's a reflective 346 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,560 thing. You know when you brought up 347 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,960 that I was going through a lot and I'm sure a lot of those who 348 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,360 are listening are going through the exact same thing they're 349 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:52,240 thinking about. You know, hey, when I the reason 350 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:58,160 why I use this is to be able to not respond emotionally because 351 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,680 it's so easy. We don't know what's going on in 352 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,960 other people's lives, and they annoy the shit out of you and 353 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,800 they do something completely irritating and you got to go. 354 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,440 OK, well, I got to look at the good parts of that one. 355 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,200 And if that relationship in your life, you're having a difficulty 356 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,520 being able to figure out if anything good is from it, even 357 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,240 after you smoke Cindy cheese, maybe you need to change your 358 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,120 situation. I mean, it's just it's really 359 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:28,360 hard. But I would rather have the the 360 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,080 and and and I I had a thought while you were talking about it 361 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,560 and it this is where I want to go. 362 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,040 I'm I'm going to just break off from where I was going to go. 363 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,160 You have to remember too that this is a mild hallucinogen and 364 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,120 the same things that you're going to get your intent from. 365 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:48,960 You can experience the same with on psilocybin, whether it's 366 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:55,800 ketamine or ayahuasca or DMT, like whatever you're going to if 367 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,320 your intent is to get something out of it. 368 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,760 For me, using cannabis is to get clarity of where I understand 369 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,000 where I am at. I need to know where I am at and 370 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,440 then two, evaluate what's been said to me in a way where I 371 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,640 cannot be reactive, but I can contemplate it and think am I 372 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,880 for it or am I not for it? And then the last part is being 373 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,560 able to not respond emotionally after. 374 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:30,080 It doesn't mean it voids motion, it enhances emotion, but it also 375 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320 allows you to not make that mistake. 376 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,560 So think of it the same way. If you go in with intent to use 377 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,920 cannabis just to get high, good for you, great for you, you 378 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,680 you're doing it for a reason. There's something that's pulling 379 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,280 you to it. And I'm not just saying the 380 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,360 plant talks to you because alcohol talks to you too. 381 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,160 And for people it works for a little bit and then it doesn't. 382 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,120 It's the same thing with other hard illicit drugs, whether it 383 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,120 be prescription or non prescription, They're doing it 384 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:00,880 to fill in a gap. I'm not going to say that I use 385 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,960 cannabis because I'm 100% healthy. 386 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,640 Matter of fact, I use it because I am not healthy mentally, 387 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,840 physically and this helps. It improves your quality of life 388 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,120 and it's like you said you're you're addicted to cannabis. 389 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:17,560 And I I think about that often because it's like, well, I am 390 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,080 addicted to a better quality of life. 391 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,240 I love feeling happy. I mean, I love having less pain. 392 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,760 There's nothing like this though. 393 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,240 There's nothing like this feeling. 394 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,280 Less stress in my mind. I love having less racing 395 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,480 thoughts. I love the fact that I can 396 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,960 actually respond sometimes instead of always reacting and 397 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,680 like, and it comes from that. But it's it's intent, you know? 398 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,600 It's like. But it's OK to say, I mean, you 399 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,040 know, The thing is like, it's OK to say that I'm addicted to 400 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,040 cannabis. If you're listening to this and 401 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,920 the and somebody's telling you you're addicted to cannabis and 402 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,720 it's a bad thing, evaluate what you do. 403 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Are you a bad person? You're probably pretty easy to 404 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,160 get along with and you're very chill. 405 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,200 The most of the people that judge you for it is because of 406 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,040 one thing or another. They they have some. 407 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,480 It's not even the opinion of what others have given them. 408 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,400 It's a lot of stigma. Yeah, it's just stigma for 409 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,520 themselves and a lot of fear. And that's OK, that's totally 410 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,120 OK, right? But it's. 411 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,840 OK, to be afraid. Like everyone has fears and 412 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,520 things they're afraid of, and especially when they don't 413 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,160 understand something right, there's a lot of fear. 414 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,960 And so most people haven't taken that time to sit in and 415 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,280 understand this so. Which is totally fine. 416 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,080 But if you can help, even on the basic level, send them the show. 417 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,240 Go, hey, you know, I've been trying to impact or change my 418 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,320 life. I'm trying to better myself and 419 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,240 I've realized that this helps me in XYZ. 420 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Yeah, and so I I use it like you use anti anxiety meds or anti 421 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,240 depression meds or or like pain relief meds or any of these 422 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,560 things, sleep, medications, all of these things that there's 423 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,640 value when you're using it for. It's just it's having that 424 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,640 conversation and opening that doorway to maybe you don't have 425 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,440 all the answers and you don't need to have all the answers 426 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,280 because you can go. I don't have all the answers 427 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,360 right, but I know they're out there. 428 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,200 And if there's always stuff that you're looking for have 429 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,480 questions on, send them our way. Yeah, we'd be happy to hear 430 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,160 about it. No, take a take a moment to 431 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,200 reflect on this and and think about what cannabis has done in 432 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,240 your life. What has it done to make your 433 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,040 life better? You know and and we're going to 434 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,560 get a lot of common answers. You know that'll be a poll that 435 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,440 that'll be a question that we'll ask there and Spotify and we 436 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,960 really want you to to think about that what what has it 437 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,160 impacted in your life? Has it made it better. 438 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,960 We're going to see a lot of similarities a lot of 439 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,920 similarities. We'll share it on an episode 440 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,480 after that to really be able to kind of capture like, hey, this 441 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,320 is what we're seeing as well. And and for those who think that 442 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,240 it's just for people that want to dull their senses, you know, 443 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,520 there's there's a lot of political people out there like 444 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,720 Tucker Carlson, who's like, I don't want my kids smoking 445 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,800 marijuana at the dinner table. It's just not going to happen. 446 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,360 I'm like, that's ridiculous for one. 447 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:07,240 But two, those are the type of people that really need cannabis 448 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,440 because they have this weird ideological perception. 449 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,200 Yeah. And they're they're so tightly 450 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,880 strung it sounds like. Yeah, they're just wound so 451 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,800 tight. And I don't, I didn't like being 452 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,120 wound tight. Like I am not as violent of a 453 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,320 person as I used to be. You know, you you have a little 454 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,720 bit of understanding of how I am and what kind of violence I can 455 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,760 bring to another individual. And I don't crave that anymore. 456 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:37,240 I don't crave it. And I used to crave it like I 457 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,640 wanted that because there's nothing like the feeling of 458 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,800 being able to control another human and hold their health in 459 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,600 your in your hands and all you got to do is make a decision to 460 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,240 do or not to do real fast. And it goes so quickly and 461 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320 there's there's an exhilaration of that. 462 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,080 But I don't, I don't care for that as much anymore. 463 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,880 Like I I can do it and it's just it's just mellowed me out. 464 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,080 So I'm just, I don't know if you're having difficult times 465 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,720 and and somebody's kind of giving you shit like we have. 466 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,320 We have listeners who have difficulty with the spouse, 467 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,080 whether it's their husband, their wife, their their life 468 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,480 partner, their husband. I mean, it goes anyway. 469 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,560 It's just whatever they they have difficulties with them and 470 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,560 they have a really hard time being able to stop their 471 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,400 emotions from getting the best of them. 472 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,640 How many marriages could have been saved by step outside? 473 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,480 Have a puff come back in? Oh yeah, because it's like most 474 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,120 of the arguments aren't the actual thing. 475 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,760 There's usually something else that pushes it and stems it. 476 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,600 Like it's the reflection after the fact and letting it Stew 477 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,960 like the saying, like it it instead of it going on, you know 478 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,440 that's it's honestly it's it's one of the best. 479 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,280 It's the best equalizers. But yeah, if you're in Utah, go 480 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,400 to Dragonfly Betty. Betty Wellness. 481 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,720 Betty Wellness. It's at some Cindy cheese. 482 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,440 Yeah, Cindy cheese. Whoa. 483 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,520 Really very introspective. And if you don't have a card and 484 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,880 you are in Utah, go to Utah. Groan across some Dragonfly 485 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,920 Wellness on Tuesdays. They take walk, insurance or you 486 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,600 can even schedule. Yeah, fantastic opportunity for 487 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,240 you. Pricing is up front, but more 488 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,360 now. One very focused on making sure 489 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,480 that you have the best experience. 490 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,480 Yeah, but as always, we love you guys. 491 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Thanks for tuning in. Yeah. 492 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,520 And thank all the Patreon members. 493 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,200 You know, again, we love you very much and thank you for your 494 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,640 support. We love all of you guys. 495 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,560 We really do. We appreciate you listening to 496 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,680 us every week. And honestly, thanks for getting 497 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,840 to the point. It is like when it started, it 498 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,040 was just we never expected it to go anywhere. 499 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,520 We thought our friends would maybe listen to it and then we 500 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640 realized not that many of our friends are all into cannabis. 501 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,920 So there's really only a few that would listen anyway. 502 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,080 And now you know, it's been, it's been amazing to grow and 503 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,000 talk to people around the world. You know, have people from 504 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,160 different countries reach out and go, hey, this is our story 505 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,040 or hey, this is what happened or this is what we're learning 506 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,960 about cannabis and we love, like we get shared with us all the 507 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,600 time. Things you guys are like 508 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,320 learning as well. Yeah, so keep keep sending it 509 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,880 in. We really love hearing about it. 510 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,280 We love reading and we discuss it. 511 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,600 We bring it up on the show because it helps to be able to 512 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440 educate you guys. But thanks as always. 513 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,320 All right, See you next week. Take care.