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Welcome to cannabis school. 
I'm your host Jessie Angeles and

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I'm Brandon Elder and we're here
to talk to you about everything 

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pertaining to cannabis from 
bait, flower Edibles, strains 

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and everything in between. 
Thanks for everyone for tuning 

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in today. 
We actually have Dean Schwartz, 

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he is the creator of Bud club 
and he's actually been branding 

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advertising and broadcasting. 
So he's worked with Brands like 

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a leave Crest and NyQuil and has
created a but Club. 

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Yeah. 
Tell us a little bit more about 

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I'm curious right now about 
broadcasting. 

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Honestly, do you still do 
broadcasting? 

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Yeah, I still. 
Well, I have up until this past 

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year, you know, we do still make
commercials for, you know, for 

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health care products, and 
pharmaceutical products and 

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build websites for them. 
And, you know, all sorts of 

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different kinds of things and do
corporate videos for big 

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companies. 
But I'm trying to leave that 

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behind me to be honest with you 
guys. 

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Call turning over a new Leaf. 
I Greenleaf agreed leave. 

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Yeah, because part of what, I, 
you know, what I figured out is,

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you know, I mean, I've never 
really been a big pharmaceutical

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person first personally, you 
know, and I've always kind of 

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believed in going natural, you 
know, unless you got something 

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serious. 
I mean, if you got something 

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serious, I'm I'm bombs away, you
know, bringing the Heavy 

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Hitters. 
But you know, generally, you 

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know, I'm trying to go low and 
slow and go natural. 

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So, and that's kind of what I've
always done and I felt, you 

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know, gee, wouldn't it be great 
if I could kind of align what I 

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do with every day, and how I 
make a living with who I am, and

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what I really enjoy. 
And, you know, that's really 

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what I'm trying to do it. 
But Club has, you know, get my 

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heart and my, and my brain sort 
of, you know, coordinated. 

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Yeah. 
And with your journey with Bud 

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Club when we talked last you 
were telling me, you know, you 

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started with a grow And you 
bought it grow tent and you end 

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up growing in your bathroom. 
Where's your Grow Tent today? 

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It's still in the box, I never 
opened it, you know? 

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And but I'll tell you, I'm 
really glad that I ordered it 

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because it was out of that 
experience that I got really got

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the insight into this business 
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real need and opportunity was, 
you know, because I realized 

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that people like me. 
I can't be bothered with grow 

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tents, right? 
It's too much work. 

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It's intimidating. 
You know, I'm just not that into

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it. 
I wanted to grow, but I wanted 

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to, you know, I didn't want it 
to be work. 

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I wanted it to be fun and I 
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and growing tomatoes, right? 
Or like a Chia Pet. 

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I just spotted like a cheese. 
Your girl. 

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Yeah, just get it wet. 
You smooth it over with your 

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mom's peanut butter knife. 
And you go animal and why Should

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Blossom right? 
Watch it grow, right? 

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Yeah. 
So did you do the Bob Ross 

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cannabis pet? 
Then first be pretty cool. 

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Or how do you tell us about your
first growth at what I changed 

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with the introduction to but 
Club from your first tent 

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purchase to where you're at? 
Well, I just I got in touch with

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some people that kind of were 
into growing. 

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I developed a relationship. 
Relationship with some really, 

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really top Growers and I read 
and I learned, and what I 

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learned, is that good growing 
actually an organic growing. 

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It ain't that hard. 
You know, if you know how to do 

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it, I had a friend of mine when 
I was in, when I was in college 

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who was an audio file? 
I don't know if you've ever 

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known anybody like that, but he 
at the time, you know, he I 

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guess turntables are back now, 
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So, you know, he had this like 
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and he would like take it apart 
and put it back together and had

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these big speakers. 
And he had these charts, you 

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know, to show me, you know, how 
it had perfect sound balance and

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all that kind of stuff. 
And you know what I mean? 

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It's funny because most people 
just want to hear good sound 

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good music that into that into 
that stuff. 

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And, you know, I think growing 
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Yeah, people really enjoy the 
experience when they do it, but 

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they're intimidated by it, you 
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And they don't know how to do 
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They're worried that I messed it
up and, you know, frankly they 

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don't want to put too much time 
into it and I felt, but as a 

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marketing guy, most of the 
market was really ignoring that 

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sort of I call them newbies or 
we call it, you know, growing 

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cannabis for dopes. 
Yeah and you know so I really 

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felt there was an opportunity to
go out and really help people 

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like me learn how to grow and 
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you know, there's an expression 
you guys have probably heard it.

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You know that using cannabis is 
not addictive but growing 

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cannabis is. 
And once you really have that 

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experience, you haven't heard 
that one. 

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No, I've heard that what it is. 
It's great XP laughs. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And you know, so I want to be an

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apostle. 
I want to spread the word, I 

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want to help people understand 
the virtues of growing and why 

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it's so great and then Empower 
them and Demystify the grow 

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process and and and and teach 
them to grow, so they never have

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to buy buy. 
But again, that's my goal. 

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Yeah. 
How now your crosses, you 

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pretty, simplified down. 
It's like a three step process I

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think I read. 
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work for the last couple of 
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So, again, you know, my Mantra 
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easier, it is the better it is 
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mean that. 
And it can be easy, but you can 

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still grow great quality. 
If you work with great seeds and

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you work with, you know, really 
good components and really good 

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nutrients and just take care of 
your plant and so we got it down

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to the group. 
Process has three steps you know

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you pack your bag and you pack 
it with layers of soil and 

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different different types of 
nutrients, you know, for veg and

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for and for Bloom. 
So you pack your bag, you plant 

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your And we help people 
understand how to germinate a 

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seat and get it going and then 
you water it and let it grow and

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that's it. 
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simpler process than having a 
grow ten. 

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Yeah, I doing all the indoor 
grow staff, seen those at 

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conventions and everything. 
I mean, they, it does it exactly

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what you said, B, it makes you 
intimidated. 

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Just looking at the setup. 
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That's a lot of time. 
It looks like I'm going to put 

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that in. 
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make this a full-time thing, 
that's where I start thinking 

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just like you happy. 
I'm a marketer as well. 

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I love consumerism and then 
probably where you're trying to 

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be able to get into the mind of 
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Alright, how easy is it to be 
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I mean, of course, the logistics
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tent looks like so much. 
You need to it almost at the 

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point where you're just like, am
I in over my head? 

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into it You know, the real 
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They love the complexity, right?
Yeah, you know the it energizes 

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them and they love to tell them 
all the complicated stuff 

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they're doing and show them 
their carbon filters and stuff 

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like that. 
But it doesn't have to be that 

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way. 
You know, it really doesn't and 

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I think that the other thing for
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starting to, I took a course at 
a place called CCI which is 

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Canada's coaching Institute and 
I Really started to understand 

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the science side of men of 
cannabis, which is important to 

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me because I can, I understood 
as a healthcare marketer, the 

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science on how asthma products 
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The inhalers work and how 
diabetes medicine works. 

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But I didn't really understand 
the science behind cannabis and 

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taking this course really helped
me make that connection to kind 

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of the left side of my brain. 
The science side of my brain and

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particularly for people that are
using cannabis as medicine, 

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right? 
Right. 

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Yes expensive. 
You know oh yeah those people 

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you know they're using it not 
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many times a day you know a lot 
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I think I saw some data from New
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medical users are using over and
a half an ounce, a month. 

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A third of them are using credit
analysis a month. 

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Okay. 
I always like maybe it's lower. 

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Yeah, I think it was like, well,
these are not swear that guy. 

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It's a little bit lower. 
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Like yeah. 
Like announcing a month is like 

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not very much. 
I feel like because you have an 

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entire month that would be 
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But you wouldn't use an ounce in
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me and my mom is pretty regular.
There's a medical user and it's 

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like Everyone has their dossier 
level, but like some people I 

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know patients who are spending 
$800 a month, right on cannabis,

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just because of their do 
something that they have to do. 

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So guess what? 
It's better for them than 

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Pharmaceuticals. 
It's less invasive. 

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It doesn't have the side effects
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medical insurance right now. 
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oxycodone, you know, or other 
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You know, the their insurance to
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cannabis to treat their pain 
they're on their own. 

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So for those people in 
particular, you know, empowering

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them to grow and teaching them 
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I think there's a real virtue 
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part of my personal mission. 
Yeah, that's a great way of 

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looking at people who are 
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into cannabis. 
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things that you were told. 
We were lies a lot. 

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In the lies, you know? 
Like you're going to be stupid, 

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you're not going to be able to 
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There there are so many studies 
saying that long-term memory can

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actually be enhanced with it. 
I know it's helped me a ton. 

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My memory has blown up. 
Well, their science into the 

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creation of new memories and 
exact and people who have 

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Alzheimers that plaque that 
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cannabis helping reduce that 
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timers. 
And it's like, okay, so there's 

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a difference between what has 
been preached Hurley from media 

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government. 
Write a general story to what 

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the actual effects of this plant
are and yeah giving that ability

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to grow your own medicine at 
home and even understanding that

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every like there's so many 
studies now that are even out 

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where cannabis they can see 
there's every ailment or every 

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What is like autism cancer? 
Everything has specific markers 

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that they can trace and their 
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And cannabis has been found to 
reduce those markers in to 

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normal levels, just depending on
the strain that dose the 

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cannabinoid, like there's 
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showing that. 
So having the ability to truly 

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craft or grow a strain that 
suits, those markers are 

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specifically what it is, that 
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if you can take out the cost of 
eight hundred dollars a month, 

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like you're well over what 10 
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Yeah. 
So yeah. 

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But yet growing at home, how 
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Take with your simple three-step
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Well, like I said, once you set 
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it's basically just watering it 
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I mean one of the things that 
I've learned and and guys, this 

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has been a journey for me. 
I don't profess to be, you know,

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the expert on growing. 
I'm learning every day. 

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A and I talk to people, I have a
relationship with a guy that, 

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you know, Jeff low in Fells Jeff
is a great guy to tap into. 

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He's written some of the best 
books on organic growing. 

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He's actually he check them out.
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He's the He is, he's a lawyer 
and he's also been the gardening

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columnist for the Anchorage news
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And that's like an organic going
to and he's written some of the 

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best books on like teaming with 
microbes and how to use microbes

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to help you grow better weed, 
things like that, so yeah, yeah,

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yeah. 
So have you read any of Ed 

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Rosenthal stuff? 
I have I have. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I mean it's great. 

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makes it simple. 
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with the process being so 
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do is just careful. 
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in our garden. 
I mean, if you grow some kickass

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tomatoes one year, right? 
Like these are the best. 

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I carry Tomatoes. 
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tomatoes because it almost 
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grow those as well. 
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your, so if there's an 
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you have, because you grew it 
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When they're so connected to the
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process and being able to 
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you know. 
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They don't need to know every 
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Measuring every bit of you know 
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like those are important. 
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man they don't want to spend 
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again it becomes overwhelming 
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plant that they are. 
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the terpenes and cannabinoids 
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were looking for. 
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gave him a Johnny Appleseed 
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everywhere. 
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don't know what this is but it's
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When you have a connection to 
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each time that you're consuming 
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It's it's a labor of love if you
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Well, you know, I think that's a
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It's interesting. 
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that's been done. 
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of things that you would expect 
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they do it because it saves them
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contaminants or another big one 
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quality, which is true. 
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people the people are home grow.
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They love the process. 
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you're thinking energy with that
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whole different feeling. 
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personally you're going to have 
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for this plant, as just going to
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it's such a, it's such a cool 
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he does a lot of work with 
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oxycontin, in getting them off 
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of good research that's 
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hard drugs. 
One of the things that we've 

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talked about doing is actually 
doing a study where we introduce

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home growing into to a one of 
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people the opportunity to not 
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but also to grow their own 
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important for people's recovery.
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so much fun but the the notion 
of actually having something 

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that you can nurture and take 
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And look forward to seeing every
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You know, and smell an 
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We think that there's a real 
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well, you know, and something 
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about in the future. 
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Yeah, yeah, totally does. 
I mean I think about I had 

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somebody close to me struggling 
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went through a detox, they were 
kind of left at this, like, well

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now, what like, what do I fill 
this this Gap in, how do I taper

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away from it because they're 
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head once? 
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something that there's got to be
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there. 
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I mean, I, I went through with 
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edible cycle of, like, you know,
here are some things that you 

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can take. 
This is the doses. 

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Want you to stack them 
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it works out for you based upon 
what they told me about their, 

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what their preferences with 
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And they haven't had a drink in 
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use cannabis all the time, but 
for a while they were using it 

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and then they go. 
Okay, I'm They've got some 

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supplies acai and, and that's 
what's awesome about being able 

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to understand and grow your own.
Because then you appreciate not 

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only the dosage at your being 
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when you can get more involved 
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If I did dip, I just added this 
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Now, I can add complexity after 
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established are correct. 
As you get more experience, you 

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can do cooler stuff for a 
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you know, I've been doing that 
too. 

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I mean, I started out doing 
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now I've been using the kit to, 
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you know, it's and I, yeah, I 
just did a great, great harvest 

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with a strain of called Violetta
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It's from Ace. 
And if it was like a work of 

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art, how about I wouldn't you 
get from that grow? 

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I probably got like, I would 
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Nice. 
And that was an indoor grow. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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So yeah, really good. 
Come with the seeds already like

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Auto flower or or zip. 
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afterwards. 
So yeah, I mean, again that's 

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part of simplifying the process.
I mean, you know, back to my 

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early days and what it was like 
to do my first grow. 

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The other thing that was really 
difficult after seeing that tent

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was Finding seeds. 
And honestly it was a horrible 

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process. 
Yes, you know, first of all, 

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looking at these seed banks like
overseas and going one is it 

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okay to order from them or not? 
And can I use a credit card? 

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I actually ordered from one and 
I ended up getting it in a 

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getting stopped by the customs 
and I got a letter from Custom 

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saying that I would not be 
receiving my package, you know. 

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So that was crucified. 
Messiah. 

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T. 
Yeah. 

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The other part of it is you go 
on a seed site and you know you 

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literally see like, you know, 50
60, 70 seeds, gives you a 

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headache trying to figure out, 
you know, what to do, you know 

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which one's right? 
And that kind of stuff. 

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So we wanted to simplify that 
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So we call it seeds Made Simple,
we sell kits without seeds, but 

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we also give we also have 
bundles that includes these. 

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We have really high quality 
seeds right now from a company 

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called Janome automatics. 
And we've got three different 

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strains that we offer. 
So people healthy Flowers at 

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this point right now, we have 
Autos, but we will expect good 

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to start with though, your say, 
yes, because I do flower. 

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I mean, it's and for those who 
don't know what an auto flower 

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is, it's it's being able to 
scientifically give you a 

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shorter growth cycle, well, 
because they automatically kick 

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into flowering at a specific 
time. 

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Versus most Growers, you can 
manipulate win, it'll go into 

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flowering just depending on how 
large or what you want to put in

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and how you on that plan Pro. 
So, Correct. 

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Correct. 
But the thing that people don't 

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know about Auto flowers is in 
many ways, they're easier than 

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photos. 
Right. 

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Right. 
But you also have to be really 

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careful with them because 
because the growth cycle is so 

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short. 
Yeah, right. 

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That if you have any, they have 
to be an ideal conditions. 

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Like, for example, you don't 
want to start an auto flower in 

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a pod, right? 
Because you know and put that in

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dirt because you know you want 
to start it right in dirt 

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because as you want to make it 
as easy as possible for the seed

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to get started and get going. 
And if the seed has to work work

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too hard, during that short 
group here at you're going to 

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end up with less of a plan, all 
right? 

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And so that's another reason for
this kit, right? 

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This kid is really designed, you
know, especially the the way 

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the, you know, the initial 
nutrients that were using, it's 

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designed to really work well 
with auto flowers so that you 

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have your very best chance of 
success because you know, the 

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With auto flowers is that you 
it's easy to grow but you know 

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your bud could be a dud and 
that's not fun for, you know. 

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Yeah. 
You don't want a dud, you teach 

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them in your kit. 
How did identify like 

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hermaphrodites or male plants? 
We don't get into that because 

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all of our all of our team at 
all of our events are Femmes. 

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They're all fem seeds. 
Yeah. 

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But again, you know, we have 
grow classes for people that we 

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put on. 
We also So have 24/7 email 

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support as well. 
So we're there for you, people 

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have questions and that kind of 
question happy to send in the 

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information and what? 
I don't know, I'll go find out 

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for them. 
So with that what what is what 

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is a person looking to invest 
into a civil process? 

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So we have kits that start out 
as low as twenty-nine 

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ninety-nine a kit. 
Wow. 

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And that's just a grow kit. 
But that has what you need to 

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grow a really nice. 
Plan and then you can have seeds

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on top of that. 
And then we have what we call 

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grow and harvest bundles. 
So that's just not those. 

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Not only gives you the stuff 
that you need for growing the 

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plant. 
But it also comes with a trimmer

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and a curing bag and a Jeweler's
loupe. 

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So you know when it's time to 
take your plant down and you 

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know and it gives you what you 
need to trim it. 

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Dry it and cure it. 
So cool. 

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And then we have right now, 
we've got some special Holiday 

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bundles that were running, you 
know, over the over, the holiday

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period. 
So I have a kit that I'm 

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selling, its 3999, right. 
And that's with seeds. 

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So you get a kit with seeds for 
under $40. 

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It's hard to buy just seeds 
alone, quality seeds alone for 

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under $40. 
You know, I have another kit 

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bundle that we're doing for the 
holidays which is a gift one. 

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Get one grow together. 
Promotion, right? 

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So the idea is that, you know, 
that you give a kid to somebody 

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as a gift for the holidays, you 
get one for yourself and you 

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guys can grow together and yeah.
And that's like 400 bucks with 

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seeds. 
It's, you know, people were 

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young business. 
Exactly. 

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Exactly. 
And then you could be one of our

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butt buddies. 
That's, you know, that's what we

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call our loyal. 
Customer happy customers. 

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I'd say that's fantastic. 
Yeah but we're a young business 

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and we want to you know we want 
to get people going and develop 

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relationships with people so 
we're trying to make it as 

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inexpensive and as easy as 
possible for them to get 

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started. 
Yeah, that's cool. 

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What's been the most surprising 
thing for you in starting a 

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cannabis business? 
Surprising. 

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Well, I'll tell you for me as a 
marketer. 

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One of the most surprising thing
is been how hard it is to Market

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a cabin. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's so hard getting flagged on 
every level. 

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Well, not only that, but I mean,
just the amount of a Brit. 

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I mean, you know, that's one of 
the things that I love about 

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that's some of the reasons why 
we created this cannabis 

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podcast, was we created it, just
for consumers. 

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We wanted to be a platform for 
people to come on. 

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Going. 
Okay, cool. 

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I'm learning a little bit more 
about this plant and the 

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differences of each strain that 
affect me there. 

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There terpenes are cannabinoid 
profiles, but as they start 

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being able to get more into it, 
they need to still learn more 

450
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,700
stuff up for the consumer and 
that's why Brandon was like man.

451
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:10,100
We got to get him on here 
because this is such an amazing 

452
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:16,100
thing for individual Growers at 
a way where it's not as well, 

453
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,700
like what we talked about 
intimidating. 

454
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:20,200
Yeah, I mean, Brandon Brandon 
will science that A lot of 

455
00:26:20,208 --> 00:26:22,700
whatever he's going to do. 
And yeah, you'll grow it out 

456
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:24,400
there. 
But for me, I'm just like I told

457
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,100
the seeds in the ground. 
I'm going to keep looking out 

458
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:27,400
there. 
I wanted to grow like those 

459
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:30,600
cherry tomatoes. 
Yeah, I made a mistake of 

460
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,700
reading or of investing in a 
grow out in Oklahoma. 

461
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:38,800
And when I did, I became a 
research or for everything 

462
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,800
growing cannabis and I read, 
like The oaksterdam University 

463
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,800
handbook. 
Like it was. 

464
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,100
Yeah. 
Rybak just, you know, everything

465
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,200
I could find anything. 
I could find about growing 

466
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:55,000
because I wanted to know 
everything there was to know 

467
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,900
about him because I wanted to 
ensure that it was going to be 

468
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:00,900
the most successful thing 
possible. 

469
00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:03,900
Mmm. 
That's how it works. 

470
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,600
Let's do it. 
No, I mean, we're both involved 

471
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,500
in that. 
You know, I was brought on later

472
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:11,800
I as a quasi CEO. 
And that's, you know, that's 

473
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600
what I found out this was 
fraudulent cuz I kept digging 

474
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,200
into the actual business itself.
Yeah. 

475
00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:20,500
When we talk about the marketing
side, like that is Super 

476
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:24,300
difficult because the Brant, I 
look at you must look at the 

477
00:27:24,308 --> 00:27:28,200
exact same way, like I wish 
there was the Coca-Cola of 

478
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,400
cannabis Brands. 
I wish there was that, you know,

479
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:37,800
the crest does because the name 
that brand is solidified into 

480
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,900
individuals, heads for decades, 
and decades and decades. 

481
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:46,300
And it's because of that love of
the being able to tell the story

482
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:50,500
of the brand and I feel that 
cannabis has its so so difficult

483
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:53,300
because it's all seen as Stoner 
culture of. 

484
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,800
You know, I mean if you remember
the movie Fast Times at 

485
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,300
Ridgemont High and the early 
80s, right? 

486
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:00,800
Stevens Piccoli over there. 
Hi bro. 

487
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,900
What's going on right now? 
That's the way the Cannabis 

488
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:07,800
consumers are perceived. 
So it's it's, it's unfortunate. 

489
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,900
But the cool part about it is 
now it's coming more mainstream.

490
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:15,200
And now I, this is where I'm 
hoping to start. 

491
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,100
Seeing some amazing cannabis 
Brands, come out of this Looming

492
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:22,600
recession, because that's really
going to put the screws to these

493
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Brands. 
Saying, how do we differentiate 

494
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,700
ourselves? 
It can't just be out, I'll take 

495
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:29,200
whatever's on sale. 
Yeah, right. 

496
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:31,900
You're right. 
You're right. 

497
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:38,200
But, you know, the thing is that
Coach just didn't become coat 

498
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,800
because it's a great product, it
became Coke because of all the 

499
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,800
marketing that went behind it. 
And those great commercials that

500
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,500
I grew up with the Pepsi 
commercials like me show Green, 

501
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,500
you know and and so you need to 
have access to people and be 

502
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:56,200
able to promote it and that's 
the biggest challenge with 

503
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,000
cannabis. 
I mean one originally when I 

504
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,100
first developed the bug club, 
you know I figured out this is 

505
00:29:03,108 --> 00:29:04,900
going to be easy. 
I'm going to go make, you know, 

506
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:08,000
I know, How to do TV 
commercials, I've done them for,

507
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,500
you know, pharmaceutical 
products, done a lot of Facebook

508
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,300
advertising. 
I'm just going to go work with 

509
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:16,000
my buddies and develop some 
Facebook ads. 

510
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,200
And from into Facebook, I 
figured it was easy. 

511
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:24,000
But, you know, and I didn't show
cannabis, I didn't talk about 

512
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,400
cannabis. 
I was very, very generic in the 

513
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,700
way I did it. 
Three days later, Facebook. 

514
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,800
Threw me off. 
Yeah, right. 

515
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Why? 
Because I violated the policies 

516
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,400
and it was only only because of 
the name. 

517
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:40,400
I had class. 
So, what's up? 

518
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:46,000
Yeah, but it is, but Bo, it's 
been really hard to even like 

519
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,100
certain platforms putting 
cannabis school on, has been a 

520
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,700
struggle. 
And even though, like thumbnail,

521
00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:55,700
that is used across our 
platforms for our podcast. 

522
00:29:55,900 --> 00:30:00,200
Cannot be utilized across every 
platform and so, it's just even 

523
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,100
knowing specific things that 
have to be changed. 

524
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:06,600
And even certain platforms, I 
have to have hole. 

525
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:09,900
Different content because I 
cannot utilize any of the 

526
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:13,500
content and we're not selling, 
we're not know any educator. 

527
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:18,500
It's just the education side, 
but still it is very particular 

528
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:22,400
on everything within a. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

529
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,000
I think it's, I think it's going
to change. 

530
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,700
I think it's going to get a lot 
better. 

531
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:32,000
And I've also seen in other 
industries that the, the early 

532
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,700
innovators, if you get in early 
and you start to do the hard 

533
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:40,000
work, Things when Industries 
open up the guys that are in the

534
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,200
that are there first you know, 
end up really, you know, at the 

535
00:30:44,208 --> 00:30:47,100
head of the pack. 
So it's hard work now but I 

536
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,500
think it's worth it. 
I think it's going to pay off in

537
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:53,300
the long term and I get to meet 
great guys like you to so well 

538
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:55,900
we get to meet guys like you and
your pretty good. 

539
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,800
Pretty cool. 
Seriously that I mean just the 

540
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,000
background you have being able 
to see everything you have 

541
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,900
especially with an advertising 
World advertising. 

542
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:06,300
Is you know what? 
People don't realize, it's not 

543
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:07,200
just sad. 
Any stuff. 

544
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,100
It's psychologically trying to 
enhance your your ability to be 

545
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:15,000
able to make a purchase, right? 
We want you, we want you to be 

546
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,400
infatuated with what about it, 
where you can't wait to get over

547
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,400
there and exchange your dollars 
for it because the value is been

548
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,400
achieved. 
But it's it's really cool to see

549
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,500
what you've done from that area 
and now by being able to tap 

550
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:29,500
into what is it that consumers 
want? 

551
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Well, they want ease and access.
And what better way than what 

552
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,500
you're doing right now with your
company? 

553
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,700
Yeah, you feel that way? 
Yeah, I feel that way and that's

554
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:45,200
why I'm doing it. 
So thank you, I appreciate that.

555
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,200
Yeah, man, okay, well, I really 
pretty stoked. 

556
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,300
I love the idea, the concept, 
the like Bud for dopes, you 

557
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:59,400
know, our families, you know, 
basically you build your grow 

558
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:05,400
and taking out all of that. 
I'll have that noise of growing 

559
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,300
and just simplifying it down to 
what it is plant, you know, and 

560
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:13,200
bringing it back to those Basics
and just allowing them to have 

561
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,600
it almost like a tabletop plant,
you know, you water it once it's

562
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,300
in there and watch it grow, just
don't overwater it because yeah,

563
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,400
yeah, the owner screw it up. 
But yeah, I think that's 

564
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,000
fantastic. 
We will have the links Down 

565
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,100
Below in the show notes. 
Okay, great. 

566
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:34,300
You guys have questions? 
Go ahead and check there. 

567
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:38,200
Is there a way they can reach 
out to you if or your company 

568
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,800
specifically yo well if our 
website is Bud Club usa.com and 

569
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,100
there's a contact form on there 
and I think the email is there 

570
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:52,700
too and I think they can also 
call like always email us. 

571
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:55,700
I think it's I should probably 
know this guy's I'm sorry, but I

572
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:58,200
think it's no you're good. 
We're okay. 

573
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:04,300
Show notes. 
Yeah, it'll be down below in the

574
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,900
show notes. 
So yeah, if you guys have 

575
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:09,900
questions, are definitely 
learning how to grow or wanting 

576
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,000
to grow. 
Check out bud Club. 

577
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,800
Yeah, absolutely. 
Thanks. 

578
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,100
Thanks again, Dean for joining 
us today, man, we can't wait to 

579
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,100
get this out to our community. 
We are. 

580
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:25,600
We've been continuously growing 
and I mean, we where we're all 

581
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,100
over the place, and we want to 
make sure that people like, you 

582
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:31,200
are being able to help out the 
Cannabis Community, everybody 

583
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,400
can be able to Part of that. 
Well, thank you guys. 

584
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,700
I really personally had a lot of
fun. 

585
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:39,500
So I want to thank you. 
It was a great time and I really

586
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:42,500
appreciate your interest in what
I'm doing and your support. 

587
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,800
And yeah let's Teach the World 
how to grow. 

588
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:51,100
So people can get really top 
quality stuff and you know and 

589
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:54,300
save a lot of money to and and 
have a great time. 

590
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,800
Most important thing Catman. 
I've been growing more than you 

591
00:33:57,808 --> 00:34:02,100
do smoking it, and there you go.
Hey man. 

592
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:03,700
Thanks so much for being on the 
show. 

593
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:05,700
Brother, take care, guys, take 
care. 

594
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:06,700
Bye bye.
