Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles.
And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you
about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape, flower,
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But without further ado, we want to go into a 101 today that we
feel based on everybody we've talked to our audience members,
places we've been able to go, fans we run into.
Can you go over what carts are and what concentrates are
because they they tend to believe that both of the same
when they're not and there's a different.
Experience. It can be.
Well, yeah. It just depends on which one it
is, because some concentrates 100% are in carts, yes, and some
are not. It just like they have to be
processed into a different like concentrate almost.
Correct. And.
And that's something that I want to go into with you, brother.
You know, talking about carts. Yeah, like you got a cart out.
Which one show? Me a give me a 510 and show it
to the camera. Yeah, of like, you know, for
those of us who know, they know. So cartridge.
These are my favorite type, the 510 thread.
They're just too. Simple twist on.
The reason why is because the batteries, they don't always
last, they don't last forever and sometimes they break, die or
just go bad and I don't want to have to worry that my
concentrate is also going to waste then right?
And also sometimes I like different batteries for
different things. Going through a 510 car, one of
the cool things that you can be able to find with them is that
they can be in several dosing sizes from 1/2 gram even like a.
Quarter. Of a gram.
Full gram and even I've seen 2G ones.
Yeah. And I I don't know, like, I
think that's almost a bit much because of I.
And we've we've warned people about this quite a bit.
It's candy carts are candy. It they are, but for me, like if
I had one strain that I really, really liked and I could get a
2G cart, for me and my use, that would actually make sense
because I can sense I can blow through a cart honestly in a day
or two if I wanted to. That's insane.
I can make a cart last for probably anywhere on the minimum
side, about two to three weeks. I can make them last for months.
See if I if I don't use them and I just set them aside and I'm
like all right at home, pens are not a thing and I do not use a
pen at home because then I'm only using.
We'll explain why. Why do you?
Only you don't use a pen at home.
Because they're like candy and you just keep huffing on it, you
keep huffing on it. And for me, where there's no
plateau, like it's a plateau, you don't get past that.
So you're always hitting this peak of like, hey, I want to be
here with flour or concentrate, but my cart gets me here.
I mean, well, you know, talking about other devices like the
Zenko or the Megatron, like you can get.
But I'm not always using that. Well, and on top of it though,
the experience on it is really harsh to take a lot of vapor.
Yeah, because you know what? What is in that anyways, What's
in a cart? If you get a typical fight,
well, let's just talk about, let's go through a bunch of
different, so let's go through the common one, which is a
distillate. Yeah.
And what is a distillate and what is inside?
That yeah. So distillate is just really a
distilled cannabinoid. So they go through a process of
either using like BHO or propane or butane to go through and
remove and extract the cannabinoids from the cannabis
plant. And it uses pressure from the
gas, right? And it presses down on it.
Well, that they don't usually have to do that with it the
extraction, because what, No. I mean, when you're taking the
raw plant and that goes into that because it has a, it's
decarboxylated. Search.
Most of it actually comes all concentrates, like 90% of them
all come from crude oil, any distillate, anything that is
what is crude oil. It's like the they take all of
the product, they send it to a processing plant and they
extract down that thing, OK, that crude oil.
They take that crude oil and they infuse whether it's PHO,
propane that into it and that helps remove and extract the
compounds that they're looking for.
So they can extract THCCBD, like whatever terpenes that they're
trying to get and isolate those compounds.
And then what happens is any product that you get at a real
dispensary, like a dispensary that's not.
Yeah. Yeah, not a shady shit.
And it's not black market. Yeah, it's not black or those
are always. The, the propane, the butane,
all of that has actually been removed, so you're not ingesting
that into your body. No.
Well, there still is trace amounts of CO2 from what I
understand. It's not supposed to in
dispensary quality level ones, but if you get black market
ones, there's very good possibility that it is.
So would you say that we're getting straight THC oil
extracted from the plant that's put into these carts?
A lot higher, yeah. And that's why distillate
experiences, you'll find you get a little bit more anxiety.
The experience isn't as nice because it is a more isolated
compound. So because we don't have all the
the raw cannabinoids that we get from plant.
And the terpenes, so they'll sometimes they'll reinterject
terpenes back into it after because they truly isolate it
down to that like almost THC compound.
OK. So then when they're putting
that back into your cart, they'll put in terpenes and
that, and that's why you'll get really weird flavor mixes too on
a distillate because you'll get ones that are like sometimes,
depending on who it is, they might not even use cannabis
based terpenes, they only use plant derived terpenes, which is
not the same. It's synthetic.
I mean, they're still from plants, but.
It's, it's. Just been very different on the
experience. So you would want to make sure
that they give you cannabis. New York Cannabis produced
terpenes in there, but that's why distillate is such a wide
range as well with like those experiences once they do it
getting to like butter or shatter or.
Yeah, we'll go into those. It's really just all of because
it's all starting with that same crude oil.
It's just the process that they do after.
And from what I understand, yeah, and what I understand when
you're talking about curing over there, you know in order for you
to go from THCA which is THC acid, right?
And that has non psychoactive effects but you can see
different ways of how to. You can even leave it out in the
light for a certain amount of time like heat, direct heat,
like in the sun, like summertime and you can actually activate
it. They've done tests on it.
That activates into THC and over time it will convert into THC.
But we put flame to it, then it actually activates.
When they when they use this process of distillation and
getting the actual crude oil, they actually decarboxylate the
oil itself. They get it up to a certain
temperature to activate it as. You see?
OK, so. Some of them, they actually do.
Is that a rarity or is that a commonality?
That's that's more in concentrates that aren't the
live ones. OK.
So just direct concentrate. So these are our stereotypical
ones that you're buying. These are the ones that are
ranging anywhere from like doing 1/3 of a gram and you're paying
like 20 bucks out the door to walk out with that cart so you
can. Oh, for a cart.
Yeah, for a cart. 1/3 of a gram of a cart.
Depending on where you're at, yeah.
Right. And then when you were talking
about like, that's why we get different flavors, 'cause they
can actually add in different plant flavonoids that are or or
terpenes that are not necessarily with that plant that
was extracted. That's why some of them when we
when you smoke out of a cart, you're actually getting like, oh
man, I'm getting like a blueberry flavor or I'm getting
like this awesome pineapple flavor like the one I got around
here. I don't remember the brand
select. OK.
Yeah, and they had these disposable pen batteries and it
was 1/3 of a gram of Pineapple Express.
It was a great taste, not the best feel a.
Little interesting. OK.
Yeah, anxiousy. Which I'm not prone to on that
one. But anyways, I digress.
Yeah, going into that, I, I, I, I see that where you're and that
makes a lot of sense on the concentrate side.
The reason why is that they're trying to be able to get the
most product out of the plant in the quickest way possible, and
sometimes they have to sacrifice certain things like
cannabinoids, flavonoids, and terpenes.
Yeah. And because that adds in more
process that would add in more money, more time like in really
the distillate is just the bottom level, bottom shelf
quality product. You can still get very clean
ones within that, but it's still like buying bottom shelf whisky
versus getting Topshop. The experience it's.
Like a Jack Daniels type thing, if you're getting that.
So yeah, you're getting that's. Common It's not bad.
It'll do the job. It's not necessarily bad, but
it's not great. It's not the best experience
you're going to find. Right.
When I was doing a lot of research looking at both
comparison over there like flower is still the number one
seller because if you think about it, it's going into
different products such as this. That's why things are buying it.
You can make your own tinctures with flower.
You can make your own edibles. You can make your own like we do
a lotion, or like you can make all sorts of things with your
own flower. Granted, you can do the same
with concentrate. If you have to concentrate, you
can do all that as. Well, I mean, hell, if you're so
inclined, you could drain this little two, this little cart and
use that. I mean, you sure could.
You totally could. I mean, I I wouldn't recommend
it. But yeah, I, I, I, I get that.
Now where you know the second most sold thing is carts like.
For convenience. Flower and carts.
Because I think about it, and I mean we live in Utah.
How many moms, soccer dad, like soccer moms, soccer dads, all
these people, the day-to-day people they don't want to use
flour. It's it's way more potent.
You will smell it like it's so much harder to hide.
And the discretion here I feel like is a huge factor and that
might be where you live too. Discretion might be a really big
factor. So one of the, I mean there's
many different types of carts as well.
The 510 threads are our favorite.
Well, let's talk. About that 510, like a standard
510, Brandon showed a little bit ago.
But the reason, the reason why I like it because.
It fits in so many different types of devices.
Of these batteries will fit a 510 thread and I can switch
between any of these, and I've even got more oh other ones in
the other room too. Yeah, you've seen the one I'm
using right now. I like this standard and it.
The sticks are fantastic. Well, but here's.
They're always reliable. Here's the thing such as these
larger carts. I like the larger carts, but I
don't like them and the reason why I can use it only on a screw
one you have many of them like which that one you have.
The yo can. Yo can, right?
I've got a yo can. My wife, my well, my wife's got
a yo can. Will it fit the fat one?
I feel like it doesn't. No, it won't.
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no.
My wife's yo can. It will.
Totally, because it has an adjustable top and that one does
too, so it totally can. Barely this one, this one will
fit it, the paper air. So this is the Mr. High end.
This one will fit it as well and I think this one fits it.
But you take ones like this. That didn't fit it.
Nope. You have to use a standard
which. A little slimmer.
But The thing is, what's the difference between both of these
carts? I will tell you, not a fucking
thing. It is the same amount in a
concentrator profile and I think the slimmer profile is actually
more inviting. I don't understand.
I I think a lot of it is just a manufacturing standpoint.
There's no necessarily like use. Or whatever.
Well, so this is the thing I've noticed since they went to the
fatter ones is the skinnier ones would typically have one hole in
the center and the fatter ones have 33 and I think it's the
better airflow that it gets and that's why it.
Prevents clogging. Trying, yes.
And that was the thing I noticed as I think there's no clogging
with those. Yeah, I I will say that these
carts that we got when you were out in Arizona, the battery that
I have right now is called a Himalaya and I've had this for
over three years and it still works brilliantly.
There are so many different types of cards.
When I talk about this one, what was the product company name?
So this is mode. It is.
This is actually one of the coolest products that we've been
sent recently. Yeah, this is a dosing.
You have the ability to dose from 1 milligram, 1 milligram
all the way up to five and when you pull on it, it has a counter
on it and when you're pulling it stops that the.
Cool thing vibrates and stops once it hits the milligram. 5
milligrams, it's like it's not going.
To let you do whatever dose you'd set.
Cool thing too. A lot of these batteries for
karts, they'll have a attachment that goes on the end of this one
that's magnetic to hold on to. We love those.
I've got like, I've got a drawer full of these I gotta throw away
because they stop working. What's the biggest complaint on
these? Is that the end of this?
Sometimes the cart just leaks and it gets built up.
Over and then you. Just the connector.
Yeah, so I just get AQ tip with some ISO, yeah, and clean it and
then it usually fixes that. Oh, totally, man.
I'm just saying like, that's for the screwable ones, though.
That's a pain in the ass like the yoke can.
Because you get in there, It's. I hate that it's so far down and
with AQ tip like I've had it, I've had to.
I've had to clean this one several times.
Yo, yeah, and it doesn't seed all the time.
No, and I don't like that because I'm like.
I like that one that you've got in your hand, though.
This is paper Airplane sent us out some cartridges that we'll
review as well. Yeah, they're not today.
They're awesome. But they sent this little
battery with it and it's like it's fully enclosed.
It keeps it in there. The only downside is if you it
does get clogged, it doesn't fully connect the air, like the
airflow doesn't fully connect through there.
So you actually have to take it off and kind of pull on the cart
itself to clear it, to try and unclog it and then go.
Yeah. And that's what I've loved about
these ones where they have the thicker ones and and we'll
that'll be an issue for a lot of these manufacturers because what
if they start going more towards.
This, yeah, that's the struggle, is if a lot of them are all in
the fat carts. To change that.
You always have to get a different battery or you're
like, well, I've got one that works with these skinny
batteries or skinny cartridges and ones that work with the fat
ones. But like, this one's cool, but
it's also $145.00. I would use this for like.
This is a medicinal. 1II strongly would suggest those who
are brand new into cannabis or they've been using flour.
I've talked to people that use flour that are terrified to use
carts. They're like.
I want to use carts, it's way higher percentage.
Yeah, I mean, you know, when we go through a level of
carcinogens that go through it cause like this one they say is
mostly healthy, but they still don't know.
And we have to know, and we have to admit to ourselves, that more
than likely there's bad shit going into our lungs a little
bit. You're inhaling something into
your lungs. I'm sure it's not the best, but
I will say my favorite experience for inhaling now that
I've released is is a Volcano. Well, I was about to say that
because the studies that they've done on it, that using a
vaporizer is the healthiest out of all options in using
cannabis. Even concentrates, which we'll
go into because they say that you they it has the least
amount, but it has the highest potency and you get the most
flavors and cannabinoids with it.
So it's it's even when you burn it in a bong, you lose a lot
because you're learning. It ton yeah the instantly.
That's why it doesn't last as long.
Like it's 3045 minutes. You got to smoke another bowl.
OK. So I want to go into, we've
already gone over distillate CO2 concentrates.
It's the exact same thing we talked about.
Yeah, it's the distillation process well with like full
spectrum concentrates, that's a little different though.
Yeah, that's like the live rosin, live resin.
Yes, and rosin. And what's the difference
between resin and rosin? So before we get into that,
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That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But anyways, back to live. Live resin and rosin?
Yeah, So these are full spectrum.
Yes, distillates. And not Dist full spectrum
concentrates. Full concentrates, yeah.
So it preserves all of the terpenes and cannabinoids that
are present at like its perfect state.
OK. So then they take that.
Why? Why is that even?
Like it doesn't decorate. Like there's no quality
degradation over time. Is my height going to be better?
Possibly, yeah. Should be better.
Because you get more of the
actual terpenes and cannabinoids versus like the distillate,
they're doing an extraction and removing those so you don't get
as much of the entourage that. Keeps it in there with the
actual plant that you're consuming.
So yes, it's, it's, it's getting closer and closer to the lactul
like. To like the have having the real
plant. Right.
OK. That makes sense.
It'll be the closest things to it.
Now, resin versus rosin resin is actually, after they've frozen
it, take that flower and they actually run it through propane
or butane to extract those compounds, the cannabis
compounds. Now, the reason why they do that
is because they can actually isolate the specific compounds
they want or leave the compounds they don't want.
OK. So it can actually help to make
a cleaner better experience with that then like the distillates.
And so at the end they still will whip it often or stir it
fold it. Because what that process does
is the manipulation helps agitate and get out the propane,
the butane and all of that as well.
So any obviously dispensary quality product should be none
of that remaining in there. So you shouldn't have to worry,
hey, I'm getting this from my dispo.
I'm worried that you know there's butane or propane or
that left in there that should all be gone.
You shouldn't actually be using that.
So and with live resin, they can make about 40 lbs usually in two
hours or in the the hour process.
So then, live resin. They still have that flash
frozen product, but then they take that and what they do is
they actually put it in ice water and they agitate it and
the agitation gets rid of the trichomes or all the little THC
crystals. And then that when they wash
that it, they put it in these little like mylar bags and
different stages of it. So it collects the different
stages of that hash basically is what it's called and they turn
it into bubble hash or that's what the the remaining form is
that's left over after they agitate it and remove those
bags. All of the stuff in the bags is
bubble hash and then they turn that usually from hash going
through any of the other processes to you know fold it,
stir it, mix it and turn it into like a live rosin.
And that is like the purest concentrate form because you're
not using. It's supposed to be the most
natural because you're not using any chemical or anything else to
extract it. Yeah.
And I mean the the pros and cons of it that I've I've, I've
experienced through both of them, Rosin and resin, you're
going to get them in a cart, they're going to be darker,
there's just darker color. I would.
I would put it towards like organic raw honey.
So this. Is this is rosin?
There's a little bit left in there and this is a resin and
it's a little bit different color.
I would say. Yeah, rosin is not quite as
translucent as the resin. Yeah.
But I. Feel your distillates are like a
golden amber. Yes, like this is like your
store. Shop.
I mean. Well, the best way to be able to
compare it to is honey because the color is very close to.
This is also a resin, but it's more of like a yellowish color.
Yeah, so they're just usually like Amber Golden, like there's
a wide range of coloration in there.
Dark like the rosin. The rosin is usually very dark
honey. My my resin was darker than my
resin rosin one actually. But yeah, when when you take
these, like, yeah, they're darker.
Oh yeah, those resin ones were way darker.
Way darker now the you know it's got a lot of the positives the
negatives on that one. These are and I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna beat around the These are way expensive.
Yeah. So that was the thing.
So we're live rosin or live resin, they can produce 40 lbs
in that hour. They produce 2 lbs of live rosin
in that same amount of time, right.
So it's like 20 times more greater the amount that can be
produced from the resin versus the rosin.
So Rosins, like you said, they're way more expensive.
And I I tend to find that with the rosin or resins, the reason
why somebody would go to this is that they want a full
cannabinoid to. Get that entourage effect that
you can get from a A. Plant, yeah.
But I mean, it's not always like I would say, like is it worth
it? On certain things, if you're
trying to be discreet, rosin and resins are not your way to go.
These things are skunky. Yeah, they're stink here.
And they're stink here, even when you don't light them.
When you don't, I mean when I say light them by pressing that
button and getting the hit off of it.
This will fill a room pretty quickly.
Paper planes. And they had.
We had those cards so that the bag still stinks.
That's funny. To this day, and I've left it
open to air just to kind of see what would happen, my wife
knows. Oh yeah, when you pulled out,
you didn't smell it. Oh my gosh.
But it's even concentrates don't have that kind of of of odor,
not even the whole. It's so strong.
But that's the the negative side, the positive sides though
it is a better effect. You do feel a lot better.
You use less. Well, you should use less
because you get more feeling faster with less.
The experience is so much better than distillate.
And and you know what that that actually right there, so knowing
everything we know about carts right now, right.
And that was a quick run through, yeah, that we most of
our listeners understand what carts are.
But to give you a little bit more broad idea of in there
because a lot of the misnomers in there and that's why people
are so afraid of black market carts is there's additives and
fillers that they put in there. Where I tend to do when I look
at a cart I and if I don't know where it came from, such as
somebody handing it to me, I'll do this to see if it runs and if
it moves pretty slowly. I know I'm getting a higher
concentrate and I'm actually getting closest.
To something to look out for that don't really move at all.
And those are also can be really dangerous black market ones.
They have to move a little. Bit it's just yeah, there's the
ones that run really fast that you're like no, don't want that
either. Like you you have to be very
careful, but like as well with carts though some of the all in
ones look for ones that have rechargeability because if they
don't I've had batteries that die with a lot of the
concentrate still left in. There, the old school.
You remember those ones? You see it from Colorado?
Oh yeah, they had the stylus on there.
Like, I never got that. Like I'm not like stone going.
Well, you know what? Well, and even then, that stylus
was the big fat ones. It didn't do anything on my
phone, no. So I'm like, cool, I can use
this on a tablet. There is no way to recharge.
It. Yeah.
No. And I hate that because you're.
Dies, and to the mercy of it you could go through the whole.
Another thing I don't like and maybe make fun of me, but I
actually give a shit. I hate throwing away batteries
all the time. I hate getting all of this extra
waste that I don't have to. If they could just make the 5:10
on like get rid of it or the way the cart you don't need.
It's like that. It's like this one that you
have. It's a disposable.
It looks like it's attached to a cart.
Same thing with select. It'll look like exactly like.
That and I don't like those. I actually think it's a really
dumb idea to create it like that, but we also have like the
pod systems which then you're stuck with whatever specific
battery that. They give you only tailored to
that specific. Battery only their pods usually,
meaning you are only limited to whatever products that one
company produces. So the ones that you have right
here are two of that you can get here in Utah.
One of them is the Moxie We've met Moxie, we've met Dragonfly.
We've got some cool stuff coming with them.
But I would say out of both of those I prefer.
I prefer the Dragonfly. It's a.
It's better consistency, no clogs, and I just like the
experience. I like the weight of this one.
I think it's cool. But battery life?
Aside from that, like, was the battery life.
Oh, it did last as long as the cart, basically.
See. Here's the thing.
Though this was 1/2 gram I. Still got.
I still have two carts of that. Oh, I have Viper City.
Yeah, you went and bought a couple of them, huh?
I gotta bring that. Yeah.
So we can do a review on that one.
And then the one that we got, I still have.
That's wow. Over a year ago.
I still have that one. I puffed on it.
It's a little yuck at 1st and then it went away.
But I will say that. I wonder if it was just what was
in around the Wow, I can't. I think of that atomizer.
Yeah. Yeah, because it's been there
for so long. But I mean the shelf life is
really good on carts even though they say they will degrade but.
You want to keep it not in like sun or in the heat.
If you could keep it in like a shady.
Or in a box. Yeah, in a box.
Nice little box. I actually I.
Keep mine box in a cool place. Yeah, my cubby this cute little
white and wooden style top one. Marble and shit.
No, the marble ones over there. I love that one.
That's not for my carts though. My carts in that are usually in
the office and the other cubby 1 so.
I've got mine in my green cross. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Concentrates. I love the wood on the green
cross, It's really pretty. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't look
like out of all of the ones we've tried, it's not the
coolest, but it is the most effective as far as use of
space. Well, and I like that it has a
lock. I like the key on it.
I think that's cool, yeah. Yeah, but it's it's going back
to that like people create those.
I am 100% a fan of 510 threads skinnies.
Yes, because they fit a lot of different things.
Check out mode. Yeah, I love that.
I love the dosing for it. There's also like an app, and if
you have an iPhone, it's just like through a web interface
app. Yeah, it's Android.
It'll go directly, yeah. But you can actually help
understand your usage in that better and it'll help you find
like let's see, oh you can do real time dose control and.
It's pretty cool. Like how it works.
I mean, you turn it on and once it's ready to go, you also tap
it and then just go through the modes and.
I do like this one too. The paper airplanes one has been
really nice. Well, that's a pretty standard
what we've seen around, like these types of art batteries,
which are really cool. The yo can is really cool.
My wife's got one. She's had it for years.
It's not my favorite, I. That one has been the most
consistent out of all of them, but the only reason why I like
it 'cause you can go from fatty to skinny.
Yeah, you can adjust it. But you got to clean it out
again. That's the negative.
This one, this is made by Flight Labs and this was interesting.
I just got it because it helped hid the cart and I was like, oh
that's cool. But then right after I got it,
it had so many issues connecting didn't.
You leave it outside for a long period of time.
I lost this battery because I had reached out to their
customer service and I was like, hey, this is having issues.
I just bought it. I had had it like a few days and
they were like, Oh, well, send a video to us or whatever.
And so I did. And they're like, well, yeah,
we'll send you an RMA, send it in, we'll send you a new one.
Then I lost it. And I was like, well, I guess I
won't bother with an RMA because I don't have the device to send
in. So I'm going around mowing my
lawn probably like, a month after I lost it.
It's like by the tree, right? It's out underneath the tree.
It sat out through rainstorms, through the sprinklers, through
everything, and I pick it up and I open it and there's a cart
still in it and I like, brush it off, wipe it off and I pull on
it and it lights up and smoke comes out and I was like, oh
shit, it works like so it had worked better after I left it
out in the weather for a month than it did when I first got it.
But I I hate that thing. I don't like it.
I there's something about it's the pressure that has to be on
there. This one's cool.
It just self contains you put in there, but in order to clear it
you got to open it up and you got that one, this one, it's the
same thing. You would have to open it up.
This one, this one actually touches it, so it seals against
the top and so it is direct one, so this one's easier to clear.
Yeah, I don't know why. I think it's the shape or
whatever. I just, I'm not that.
So knowing that about karts, there are literally probably
hundreds if not thousands of different variations of
batteries that you can use for cannabis.
Gosh. So we encourage you to go and
find the one that works for you. What's cool?
One thing I will, I will say cautionary.
Brandon, chime in. If if you think differently, be
careful about the products that you choose, because a lot of the
cool things are actually the things that make it the most
annoying because it doesn't work.
Again, I've had this for three years.
I charge it on an old school charger in the wall and when I
press that button, it lights up. I've never had a failure.
Even when that shit gets dirty, it still keeps going.
I don't don't fuck. I don't care.
And it is probably like, dude, this was gifted to me by a
friend out in Colorado that sent it out to me with the car
package years and years ago. And when I I still have it to
this day, I will not give this one up.
I won't throw it. I can't.
I I mean, dude, how many batteries we got?
A ton. I still have more in my other
room. How many?
Years. We just kept buying.
Yeah, because Giant, you either, man.
Looking ones. All of yours are dead.
You don't have one that you can't find.
Yeah, and you're like, oh, just annoyed and you're there and
you're like, it's like 10 bucks. It's like 20 bucks.
This shit adds. Up.
Some of them are expensive, like you remember those big thick
ones that look like a stack of Dimes that got thickness right?
It was like, I know, even bigger, like a.
Nickels. But you had this like hard like
thing on the bottom and go chunk, chunk, chunk to like the
the voltage you wanted to set to that thing.
Dude, it it because it was so big.
It was like this long. You'd, I'd break carts
sometimes, 'cause I had accidentally put in my pocket
and then I'd sit down and like, snap right at the bend and I'm
like, are you serious right now? Yeah, and it doesn't work the
same. It's not worth it.
That thing cost me 60. Bucks.
Yeah, I've dropped, so I've broken carts.
I've yet to break a cart. I have never.
I love the V mod one like the battery, the little square one
that the still had. Like three of those.
But my issue was I would drop it all the time and when I would
drop it, it would hit the cart and break it inside and so I
broke two in one day in that battery because I had dropped
one and it broke. So I put a brand new card in and
I dropped it and it broke my brand new card.
I I broke my brand new card. Yeah so.
So that's a a big caution and so OK, so now we're.
Gonna don't put it in your lap if you're sitting there, because
then when you stand up, I always do, That's my problem.
And then I stand up, but I never fall down And it hits it and I'm
like. I've never broken a cart.
Ever. I've never broken a cart.
The only I've I've had one where it was just a defect on it and
it it just the little wire that connects to the connector that
hooks to the battery OK was just broken.
There's nothing I could. I mean, I could have soldered.
It that old one. Dumb?
Yeah, right. So.
I ended up transferring. It to battery or something,
Yeah, or the little. Well, anyway, OK, so we're gonna
shift gears and and this next part, it's a lot easier for us
to be able to go through. So when concentrates, they come
from the same process as a cart would, or is it different?
A lot of the time, like distillate is very different.
Most distillates are only in carts.
You don't really get distillates.
It's. A very thin and it's a very
light yellow color. Yeah, yeah, well and and like
you can get in refill syringes, but distillate usually is not
something that you are taking and dropping in your ear egg or
your banger if you're doing dabs, the other concentrates, so
you get wax butter shatter. Diamonds, yeah.
All of those types of concentrates can be in a cart,
so that one granted it wouldn't be butter or wax or that they
add, like they change the composition so it's not quite so
thick. But that same type of thing can
be in a cart. Same with live rosin, live
resin, those can also be in a cart.
Now we didn't even talk about rosin in general, not live
rosin, but rosin. Rosin is just where they take
the bud like a raw flour off of it and they compress it.
Usually it's still dried and cured to wherever they take it.
What do you get from that? You get all the cannabinoids,
the terpenes. Is it a like product that you're
using? Rosin not live.
Rosin then, is it wax? Is it something I'm using in a
concentrate like AE rig? It could be both.
You could use it in a concentrate.
It could be in a cart as well. OK, well then.
So it's just Rosin's not as as good of an experience as resin.
Also, when they're pressing, they're literally just taking
the bud. So if it's not washed nicely, or
if it's not, you know, if it's not the best bud, then you're
still getting all of that that's in the bud.
Yeah, including the bugs. Yeah.
So when they do a live rosin, it's washed in like ice and
water and that is how they extract those trichomes and
they're just removing the trichomes.
OK. So on the on the concentrate
side though, so when we talk about concentrates, we're
talking about wax, we're talking about butter, we're talking
about like dab. Yeah, I mean, there's so many
different types of them. Names are there.
I mean, is there? From your experience, is there a
lot of difference? Because for me, I've only done
like, whatever we've been able to get together, so that's
usually like a wax. We've had a lot of waxes.
We've had some butters, like the really runnier, buttery kinds.
And that's like on the start judging, you know, like it's
like a five star super melty. And if it's not?
But even within wax there's like sugar wax or it's more like a
sugary texture. There's regular waxes.
There's like there's just so many different ranges and it's
really just like the finishing style or how it's finished.
So one like shatter's really the only difference.
Most of the others are soft and malleable.
But shatter is like you break it, shatter it or pull pieces
off. The rest is like crumble or it
falls apart like wax and that where it's stickier and.
Is it all pretty much the same if I'm putting it in my banger
and then I'm being able to smoke it from that?
So does it matter if I'm using diamonds to wax to shatter?
Is there a difference in? Diamonds and sauce are going to
be one of the better ones. Why is that?
Usually they're made with like live resins, live resins types
of things. So I think those are usually the
full spectrum ones or diamonds are like the THC crystals that
are formed on sauce around the edges and they can use those.
So it's it's basically the same thing on sauce and diamonds, but
just like one form of it versus the other.
Now I did notice that they range in in number as far as cost
wise. Oh yeah, why is that?
Why if I paying for a wax it's going to be cheaper than if I
get diamonds. So it's just more available
terpenes and cannabinoids? Diamonds is more like almost
straighter THC and terpenes. So you I mean, there's
definitely cannabinoids in that too.
It depends on how it's processed first.
But like you really would have, it's just a better experience,
but that's why it's, it costs so much more and the processing
usually is a more invasive process, more in you know, more
in depth process for them to create like diamonds or sauce or
live or live resin, you know versus live resins.
So it's just you're paying for the processing time, you're
paying for the quality of the end product, so.
So it definitely comes down to it's either drinking, you know,
Sam's Cola to, you know, Mexican Coca-Cola.
Yeah, exactly. It's just a different flavors, a
different process has gone through.
You're going to pay a premium based upon the process has gone
into it. Yeah.
So you're getting a better experience.
So with that, I mean do you think people need to start at
the high end or can they come in on the entry level?
I. Would go in honestly at resin.
Resin would be my go to if I could because my.
I mean, rosin would be my go to but my.
I mean like concentrates like wax and all those other things
like what, what what would you say?
Any of the I I've done tons of waxes, and I still do, and I
love them. Waxes, shattered diamonds, all
that stuff. Anything that you put into an E
rig or into a glass rig, you're gonna find that one.
It kicks in almost. I I it is.
It's immediate, it's super strong, but it is a faster I
would say for those who are using it for pain relief, it's
way better than a cart. Yeah, you don't wait the
plateau. You can actually get to where
you need on your pain, like management.
And it beats the shit out of edibles.
I just don't think like if I'm trying to feel pain relief, I
don't want to wait on an edible. No, I don't either because two
to three hours of pain. Possibly because sometimes it
kicks in right almost right away.
Not usually. I'm not usually feeling it
within 30 minutes. I'm usually like an hour to an
hour and a half. But then again that can go
towards based on your endocannabinoid.
System depends on tolerance level.
It really and. That's why they're so
inconsistent. When I look at Concentrates, I
think of, I want it now. I'm JG Wentworth and I want it
now, Yeah. I want my bud now.
And I mean, yeah, flower's good, but it's not as long lasting as
this would be. After that, it's gonna be a
cart. And then below that is gonna be
an edible. Like the very and actually
tincher, then edible. I've never had a good experience
with topicals at all. I don't feel shit.
Never have. I think it's a gimmick.
I may be wrong. But my personal change had one.
But I I remember you got me one from Colorado was in a pen and
it squirted out like this foamy jizz, whatever it was, and I it
told me to rub it here. And bro, I tried a bunch of it
told me how many milligrams you're getting per dose and I
ran 21 time just to see if I'd feel anything.
You know what I not a not a fucking thing.
Interesting. And it was shitty lotion.
That sucks. It was and but that again, you
know somebody's probably listening to this going.
I make the burst lotion like I don't give a shit.
I have yet to use a THC lotion that I feel anything.
Yeah. My mom brought some from
Massachusetts when she was visiting.
She goes, oh, that's THC. It's pretty strong.
I used a bath bomb that was infused.
That was relaxing. Oh, I bet I was like, oh fuck.
Well, 'cause I mean it. It's absorbing into your skin
and you're using water, which is the the fastest way to get
anything into your body is through your skin, that's why.
Motion misses are just organisms.
Right. But it it just, I don't know, I
like I and I was so adverse to concentrates for a long time.
Oh yeah, 'cause it's E rigs intimidating well, but E rigs
got rid of that intimidation. It's that blow torch to the.
Glass, you're explaining, too, that it's like, once you
understand that it's the same as what's in your cart and it's
really just putting like the tiny it's dosing.
Yeah, it is. And then you're like, OK, all
right, well, it's no longer scary.
You know, I like that. You know, there needs to be more
things out there that have more of a dosing.
I mean, I know there are. There's a lot of them.
You know, they talked about those hot knives or those little
dad things. Like those are cool, but I've
heard both bad and good with them.
Yeah, either. I think it's all based off of
your experience and what you're doing.
So with a large range of products and things that you can
use with this, I don't know, it's really difficult to decide
which one do you wanna use. Yeah, but there's tons.
On the carts I'm a 510 thread guy.
Same there my go to let us know are you like a 510 thread
person? Do you have a different battery
that you really love? Yeah, and if you're using
concentrates, what are you using using E rigs?
Are you using glass still? That's cool.
Are you using two fucking? Hot knives, Hot knives, yeah,
with the Coke bottle at the bottom cut off over it going.
There's all sorts of ways to do it.
Yeah, I mean, hey, whatever. More power to you, but check out
your local dispo or talk to your plug and see what they've got
available. What's something that you've
been wanting to try? Have you tried a live rosin pen
or a resin pen? What's been your experience at?
That are you still rocking disti?
Hey, that's all cool. No hate on there.
We do distis all the time and. I have really loved though, all
the resins that we've got. Oh my gosh, it's been spoiled.
Kind of making me think that that's where I'm gonna start.
Just going towards for now on, Yeah, yeah, I I agree.
I like the experience a little more.
I I do I I mean it's I use less. I feel better.
I don't have that. What I call the distal, the
disti hangover. You get the headaches.
I think you're more prone to headaches.
With that, because it's in more isolated compound, yes.
So it's always going to happen. You don't get any more of the
entourage effect with an isolated compound.
Yeah, and you get less of the anxiety, less of the
anxiousness. Well, I already said anxiety,
feelings, or the headiness. Yeah, I don't get headaches of
this. I feel like it's a way more
complete, yeah. Yeah.
So it's worked. I, I, I would, I would agree
with Brandon. I mean, Disti's are great, We've
got those for years. But you know what?
Spending a little extra money on getting yourself?
It might last longer anyway for you because of the experience is
better. You might not.
Well, or maybe you're just gonna increase your tolerance on that
just the same, but that's up to you.
Yeah, so let us know what are you using, what are you
thinking, what are you going to try?
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