1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,000 I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse we're. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,840 Cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:09,880 With everyday. People. 4 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:12,120 Cannabis companies. Celebrities. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,280 And your mom? Welcome to the sesh. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,200 All right, everybody, welcome back to the sesh. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,520 We have got a very good friend with us today. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,880 Nerath, can we say where you're where you're coming from? 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Yeah. Hell yeah. 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,280 We're salt. Lake. 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,400 City, Utah, Salt Lake City, UT. Yeah, yeah. 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,840 But he please. Do yeah, he is. 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,200 He's with Dragonfly and we've been able to partake of quite a 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,040 bit of Dragonfly. We made friends with them and he 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,120 was so generous. He brought us down to the grow. 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,200 Oh, it was amazing. Yeah, we gotta see some really 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,320 cool products. Amazing product. 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,360 We gotta see the state-of-the-art facility and we 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,480 just hit it off so well with him that we needed to bring him on 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,480 the show to give a different perspective. 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,880 And we've been loving all of Dragonfly's products. 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,200 Oh, it's so good so. As you guys have seen across the 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,080 show, we've used tons of Dragonfly. 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,920 Yeah, we continue to review em. I know some of you out there 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,800 going, damn, I wish we had that here. 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,920 But yeah, Nerath, welcome to the show, brother. 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,400 Thank you guys so much for having me here. 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,080 It's an honor, you know, being somebody who's a avid listener 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,560 as well, too, just to, to be able to connect with you guys. 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,560 And I think I remember telling you guys when we first met, I 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,440 was like, wait, you guys are from Utah? 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:35,120 How did I not know this? So, but no, I mean, likewise, 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,720 man, I, I, I think anytime you meet people who really 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,320 appreciate what goes into cannabis and really understands 35 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,240 the challenges and the difficulties, the opportunities 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,320 and the joy, man, you just connect. 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,800 And I think that's what cannabis culture and community is about, 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,880 right? So I appreciate you guys for 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,320 honestly being real, 'cause you could be just sitting here 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,320 blowing smoke, right? I mean. 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,080 Hopefully we are going to be so awesome. 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,200 But just stroking my ego over here, but genuine. 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,640 You guys are real about products. 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,440 You guys wouldn't lie. And if it sucked, you'd be like 45 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,039 Nerith. It's it's all right, man, like 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,280 and I probably wouldn't be here if it was just our right. 47 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,160 So probably. Not like we've seen plenty of 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,720 all right products across the Utah market. 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 And I mean, I still see all right products. 50 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,760 And so, you know, none of them have come on the show. 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,000 No, no. And, and it goes to speak on 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,240 the, the quality and the care and what we got to see over 53 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:37,400 there was this amazing process. And it's so scientific down to 54 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:43,960 every drop of water that goes into these beautiful plants. 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,480 I mean, it's the easiest way to be able to say it was gorgeous 56 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,160 down there. Like my clothes stunk so long 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,360 And even after my wife's like just go put that shit out in the 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,600 garage 'cause it's like it's. Oh, that's funny. 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,360 See I was trying to like rub it on all my other clothes. 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Like is this like do brands like oh shit, bottle this up, sell 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,040 it? No, but you know, you know, 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,880 typically we, you know, we don't want to do the typical like, you 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,440 know, take us through your entrepreneurial career. 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,120 But what I think is so fascinating about where you came 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,520 from is not anywhere near the cannabis scene. 66 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,960 Like take us through that. Like you, you talked about your 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,600 brother and your brother had some unfortunate circumstances 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,880 hit him and that kind of opened your eyes. 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,480 And from what I understand, his eyes and the family's eyes to 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,040 cannabis take us through that. Yeah, you know, and I, I think, 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,720 you know, everybody who is involved in cannabis and has a 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,800 passion for it, everybody's got that origin story, right? 73 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,160 Like what really flipped the switch from you just using it, 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,000 quote UN quote recreationally to actually looking at this as real 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,600 science and real medicine, right. 76 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,120 And everybody has that moment. And, and for me, you know, that 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,520 moment came, you know, in 2018 when my brother got into an auto 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,320 pedestrian hit and run accident and he was basically kind of 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,920 left on the side of the road to die. 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,920 And we were fortunate that there was a off duty EMT that just 81 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,480 happened to be there. And, and was able to take him to 82 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,519 the hospital and he was able to survive right with a full 83 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:20,320 recovery, but you know, he had like AC6 spinal infusion, he has 84 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,520 a metal femur in his leg, you know, and. 85 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,080 That's what sounds like a nine month recovery, right? 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,000 And again, I'm from Salt Lake City, UT, I grew up here. 87 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,840 I'm born and raised here, right? So losing friends and family to, 88 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:34,160 you know, the opiate epidemic is nothing new. 89 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,200 Here is common. Anybody. 90 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,360 Yeah, very common. So when you see your family 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,880 hopped up on a hospital bed there, that's the first thing 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,480 that runs to your mind is like, I don't want my family member to 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,880 be one of those statistics. So that that was a vow right 94 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,440 there. And I remember very vividly, 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,520 like late sitting next to the hospital bed, right? 96 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,040 And it's dark and it literally just happened. 97 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,720 And all these emotions I remember I wrote was writing 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,120 this letter to the person that hit them and it actually got 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,480 published in, in a letter. And that was my intent. 100 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,200 I was just trying to jot down my feelings and like trying to, 101 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,880 yeah, this anger that I had towards this person and trying 102 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,560 to find compassion and all those things. 103 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,640 But but anyways, in that moment was like, you know what, I'm 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,920 going to make sure that he doesn't go down that path. 105 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,280 And for that entire nine month recovery, it was 100% medical 106 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:26,880 cannabis edibles, one to one ratio, THC to CBD edibles, 107 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,440 right? And I'm not a lot of people 108 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,040 understand ratios and the differences in the impact of it. 109 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,120 It's not just about getting high, it's about real pain 110 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,760 relief. And I credit that to this day, 111 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,320 why my brother is here and why he didn't go down this other 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,720 road, right? And, and his, his ability to 113 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,480 maintain his mental health and his recovery and to, to continue 114 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,480 to have a positive outlook and seeing friends and family and 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,200 put this smile on all the time like, Nah, I'm fine. 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,120 It's gonna be great. It's gonna. 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,680 And when inside you're like, man, I, I don't think you can do 118 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,200 that on other substances. I've seen other. 119 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,000 Substances. Well, you're foggy, you're not 120 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 there. You're almost like just kind of 121 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,040 a shell of the human that you once were. 122 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,200 And nobody wants that. No one wants that for the people 123 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,000 that they care about to see them exist like that. 124 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,160 So, so that was a huge turning point for me. 125 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,880 And in that moment, right. And you know, I was working in a 126 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,400 professional career. I'll talk a little bit more 127 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,360 about what I was doing then. But in that moment it was kind 128 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,720 of that switch of like, dude, what are you? 129 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,240 What are you doing, man? Like how many other families are 130 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,720 in the same situation as me but don't have the resources, don't 131 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,520 have the knowledge? Don't even have the. 132 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,080 Courage to knowingly break the law well. 133 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Because at 2018, it was. We didn't have a medical program 134 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,200 in Utah that time. We had families here in Utah 135 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:48,960 that were moving to Colorado just. 136 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,960 So they could take care of their. 137 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,320 Kids, right? Because they couldn't safely and 138 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,400 legally do out here without fear of somebody knocking on their 139 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,480 door, taking their kids away, judging them. 140 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,040 Yeah, there was a lady whose 2 year old, she moved out Landon 141 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,800 something from Utah because of that. 142 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,360 And she took him to Colorado because we didn't have a medical 143 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,440 program and he was given like less than a week to live because 144 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,520 he had stage 4 cancer. Basically make. 145 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Him comfortable. Yeah, and so she took him and he 146 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,080 now it's been 12 years or something and he's still alive 147 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,320 thanks to medicinal cannabis and that. 148 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,200 But it's just these stories. But how many people have had to, 149 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,360 like you said, leave their home and try and venture out to 150 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,960 another place to try and find and we're. 151 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,160 All we're talking about is accessibility. 152 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,240 Yeah, that's it. Like people are going to always 153 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,560 get access to the things that they want, right. 154 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,760 So I guess we either as people, right, as, as, as business 155 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,200 leaders, as regulators, as, as you know, people in, in 156 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,600 positions of government to recognize and see these things, 157 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,120 see that there are people literally leaving our state so 158 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,320 they can just take care of their families because we're unwilling 159 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,480 to view them as regular people. When I say regular people, it's 160 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,120 like we don't judge somebody who goes gets, you know, Xanax and 161 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,200 Valium, you know, and and and opiates for their pain. 162 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,800 But that's very normal. Right. 163 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,240 Or even Advil or Tylenol or aspirin, like any of those 164 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,320 things that people are utilizing for pain as well, and yet we 165 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,640 don't look at them and treat them any differently. 166 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Well, and I will say something on the positive note though, 167 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,840 what I saw yesterday, I was, I was in the dispensary yesterday 168 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,560 over Dragonfly and while I was waiting to get called up to pick 169 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:37,200 up my order, this gentleman who looked like he belonged in some 170 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,120 LDS community guy look like a Bishop, if you know what I'm 171 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,760 talking about. It's an ecclesiastical leader. 172 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,960 And he just when he got up, I could see he was in pain. 173 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,720 And I asked and I was like you here for pain he goes, pain 174 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,080 relief he goes. Nothing else has worked just 175 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,200 like this. I said, good for you. 176 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,480 I said, do you feel ashamed anymore? 177 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,600 And he smiled and he goes, I used to, but I don't anymore 178 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,680 because what it's been able to do for me and, and you see that 179 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:11,920 like the people that come in, 'cause I know this state has 180 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,960 this very strange idea of what it, it's like Reefer Madness, 181 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,080 right? Pretty much like how it came in 182 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,040 to be like, it was just like, oh, you're gonna throw your life 183 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,520 away. You know you're gonna go down 184 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,440 the wrong path. You're gonna start raping people 185 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,160 and listening. To jazz music. 186 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Yeah, yeah. Then you're gonna start having 187 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,800 words, deep conversations, and then it starts going down. 188 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,440 Completely differently than what you're talking. 189 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Exactly right. You're gonna chill the fuck out. 190 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,720 But it was, it's so cool because the people that you do see 191 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:49,560 coming through every single day, they're not a bunch of your 192 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,520 stereotypical reefer madness stoners. 193 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,360 These are grandmas, these are mothers, these are fathers, 194 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,400 These are sons and daughters who are going through what I've seen 195 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,160 and throughout like all of Utah. And I mean, I'm gonna give a lot 196 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,720 of props to Dragonfly for what they do for their patients 197 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:12,280 because of the reason is they I have never been treated in any 198 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,160 way with disdain. It's always like, what can we 199 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,520 help you with? Yeah, I've been actually 200 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,800 decently impressed with Dragonfly over any of the other 201 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,080 pharmacies that we've. Actually. 202 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,040 But the The funny thing, and I was thinking about this before 203 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Nerth showed up was so I remember it was AI want to say 204 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,840 it was a 420 event or like a little cannabis event that was 205 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,800 going on in Salt Lake. And it was in this like 206 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,040 downstairs area. It wasn't super big, but I 207 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,120 remember that Dragonfly was going to be there and all of 208 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,520 these people who were in the cannabis space weren't nervous 209 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,560 because Dragonfly was an investment group. 210 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,360 What really it's a, a Vietnamese family that moved here and has 211 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,400 started one business, started another business, invested in 212 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,680 local businesses that they like. Like it's not this massive large 213 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:06,920 investment group. It's a small family of people 214 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,760 who have like been smart. I look at that and I'm like, 215 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,920 well, grandma and grandpa were smart with their money, had lots 216 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,520 of investments and properties and stuff. 217 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,280 My parents do that. Like, how is that any different 218 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,360 than any of these other local people? 219 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,640 But it was this, oh man, Dragonfly's coming to Utah. 220 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,360 It's this big conglomerate or whatever. 221 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,600 And it was like, OK, but no, we look at it and who else has been 222 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,520 here? The block Cannabis Cure Leaf and 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,400 hands down none of those have had anywhere near as good of an 224 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,360 experience as much of like a care for the patient as what I 225 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,960 found in Dragonfly. Yeah. 226 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,480 And that's, you know, that goes a lot to the people that are 227 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,840 involved in this. I mean, this is a, this is a 228 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:51,440 family owned run business on top of it to be able to create this. 229 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,280 And they wanted to create something that was very unique, 230 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,720 but also it was open enough to be able to accept cannabis 231 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,720 culture. No, I really appreciate you guys 232 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,560 kind of teeing up and, and quite frankly, even just recognizing 233 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:07,840 that, right? And the reality is, you know, 234 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,280 being an Asian immigrant living in Salt Lake City, right, is, is 235 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,680 a challenge in of itself, right? So trying to fit in and make 236 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:18,720 sure that people take you seriously and you're legitimate 237 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,840 and all those things 'cause you want to boil it down. 238 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,360 Yeah, our, our team started out with the first Vietnamese pho 239 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,400 restaurant in Utah, right? Like back in the 90s when you 240 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,240 couldn't find any ethnic cuisine out there, right? 241 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,240 So the end of the day, that's, that's the roots, right? 242 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,080 That's the roots of bringing culture, bringing community, 243 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,320 bringing diversity. And what's the best way to share 244 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,160 your culture with somebody other than through food through your 245 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:43,960 stomach? Right. 246 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,600 Yeah, that's, that's that look. That's the Asian way, man. 247 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,920 You will never go to Asian's house. 248 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,800 And and they will always have food. 249 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,400 They will always have something. Hey, you're hungry. 250 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,240 You're not hungry. You're not. 251 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,120 You're gonna have something. Yeah. 252 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,800 It's just part of our. Culture, right? 253 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,840 So I think that's what makes us unique is we have a very 254 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,720 eclectic group of individuals that make up our team, right? 255 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,400 We've got restauranteers, people who are involved in hospitality. 256 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:08,880 They know what it takes to create an experience where 257 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,040 people love to be a part of and come back and talk to other 258 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,480 people about, right? And then for me, I got a 259 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,720 interesting background because I come from a very corporate 260 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,760 background, right? Like, I spent like 20 years 261 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,000 working in the research and consulting world, working with 262 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Fortune 500 companies, working with some of the biggest 263 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,640 companies on the planet, some of the biggest. 264 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Automotive crazy discussion on electrical vehicles on our drive 265 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:35,600 totally changed my mind. So I come from that background 266 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,800 of just understanding how brand strategy works, how customer 267 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,800 experience matters to your product, to your brand, right? 268 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,000 And, and how to develop products that match and align with those 269 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,200 things. So man, you bring this team 270 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,000 together that has this knowledge and knows how to take care of 271 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,560 people, knows how people think and can provide the things that 272 00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:59,840 people before they even know that they need it, right? 273 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,200 Who knew that they needed a pharmacy that created a safe 274 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,240 space that was a judgement free zone that was open and airy. 275 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,440 Not this like, hey, man, I'm, I'm here for some, some 276 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,680 cannabis. No, everybody can hear what 277 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:13,920 you're doing. And that was designed 278 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,280 intentionally because when you walk in the doors of Dragonfly 279 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Wellness, there is no judgement. We are all here for the same 280 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,920 reason. So it creates that warm vibe 281 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,040 because guess what, outside of the doors, there's plenty of 282 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,200 judgment out there, right? We wanted to make sure that our 283 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,720 core values patient first. And that's in something that's 284 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,200 important in any business. If you don't have core values, 285 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,080 you, you don't, you don't have a, a, a business. 286 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,320 You just have a company that makes some money, right? 287 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,880 You don't, you don't have a real brand, a real company because 288 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,680 you don't know what your, why is you just show up to make money, 289 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,240 right? And that's kind of I think the 290 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,960 challenge that you see with corporate cannabis, right? 291 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,120 Like you got all these people that are coming in that quite 292 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,120 frankly maybe didn't really care that much about cannabis, but 293 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,720 saw. Them or even use it opportunity. 294 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,200 And don't even use it. How many executives and people 295 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,000 at high levels that you meet in suits and ties and penny loafers 296 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,200 at MJ Bizcon and they don't even know what it tastes like or 297 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,360 feels like or and, and, and they kind of sometimes just say 298 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,000 ridiculous things where you're like, do you even know? 299 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Anything about this plant? You know, it's funny, 'cause I, 300 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,800 I met this woman and she, it was part of some networking group 301 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,720 out in California and she's in cannabis. 302 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,040 She just does credit card processing, right? 303 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,080 And she's like, how do I, how do I break into there? 304 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,720 And I'm like, do you use the product? 305 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,360 She goes no, I said not even CVD. 306 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,320 She goes no. And I said then good luck. 307 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Yeah. Good luck. 308 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,880 Because they don't, they don't it it. 309 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,480 That's what's really cool. It's not a snobby thing. 310 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,280 It's when you're part of that community. 311 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,000 It's it's like when we've talked about it many times on the show, 312 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,160 it is the greatest uniter of anything. 313 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,120 If you smell that and you just say, hey man, that smells pretty 314 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,840 good, they will straight up share it with you. 315 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Like you couldn't get that with food. 316 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Yeah, right. And that cheeseburger smells 317 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:06,760 delicious. Yeah. 318 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,760 Do you wanna bite? Yeah, you should have a bite, 319 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:09,880 dude. And it was just like. 320 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Wow, yeah, you're bringing that up. 321 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,280 I was literally talking about this two days ago with Lazy Bone 322 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,320 from Bone Thugs and. Harmony. 323 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Yeah, yeah, we're. Talking about just, you know, 324 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,080 he's starting a foundation called Brilliant Life Foundation 325 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,200 that's focused on mental health awareness, right? 326 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,320 You can imagine coming from the streets of gangster rap, going 327 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,200 from riches to fame and all these things I used to like you 328 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,800 have to deal with, right? And just having somebody like 329 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,400 him being vulnerable to talk about those things was crazy. 330 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,960 But we're talking about just how crazy that concept is, right? 331 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Where, man, like, I've seen, you know, prescription drugs and 332 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:48,360 alcohol just tear families apart, but I've only seen 333 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,560 cannabis bring the most different, diverse people 334 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,520 together, right? Like, like, hey, man, you're 335 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,920 walking down the street smoking a Jay and you're like, can I get 336 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,600 a puff? Like, you're gonna share your 337 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,000 germs out of somebody's mountain. 338 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,760 Like, yeah, man, no problem. No questions. 339 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,040 Asked Here, take a hit. It's this rant. 340 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,200 It's the instant connector across the globe and it's like, 341 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,079 it doesn't matter who you are. What it was like, oh shit, here. 342 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,240 It it's like what old school Marines were like, 'cause I 343 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,720 meet, you know, you meet these guys like it wouldn't even 344 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,880 matter if they knew and they know each other just by their 345 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,040 walk, their look and they'll just say, hey, brother, do you 346 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,160 have a place to stay? Do you need anything? 347 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,320 Do you need some food? Do you need money? 348 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,960 Like they truly believe that. And and what I see in the 349 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,560 cannabis community is not as extreme as that, but it is very 350 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,240 close. Like people will invite you into 351 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,480 your home, into their home saying, hey, you know, if you do 352 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,680 that now we have this kinship and that's how like, you know, 353 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,480 and and we appreciate what you said earlier that we're real 354 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,080 because we always are who we are. 355 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:59,240 We don't change just because, like obscurely we because it 356 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,560 turned out to be a really big success and that's awesome. 357 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,200 But the other side is when you meet people within the cannabis 358 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,600 community. I've yet to meet anybody fake 359 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,520 who actually uses the product. So when you know, you know, game 360 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,680 recognize game. Yeah, for sure. 361 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,400 Something about this plant that once you get connected to it, it 362 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,000 just changes your perspective, right? 363 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,400 It, it, it opens up this door of, of curiosity, of questions 364 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,720 of like, why have I been told all of these lies my whole life? 365 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,200 What, what are, what, what were we hiding? 366 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,080 What were we keeping from people? 367 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,720 What were we trying to protect people from? 368 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,600 And that starts, and, and that's probably the very reason, one of 369 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,000 the reasons the, the, the, the government decided to ban all of 370 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,600 these controlled substances, right? 371 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,320 And you can look back into the Vietnam War, right, during that 372 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,640 time in that area where you had all these hippies running around 373 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,760 on all these drugs and they don't want to support the war 374 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,040 and they don't believe in American. 375 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,520 We shouldn't be over there and blah, blah. 376 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,400 No, we can't let them think like this. 377 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,520 Boom, here comes the Reagan era, right? 378 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,320 Say no drugs. Yeah, it was. 379 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,360 A huge what did we do? We just locked up people in 380 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:10,640 jail. We just threw people. 381 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,960 We still did just crushed families. 382 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,880 We. Did it. 383 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:19,120 We talked about that on the last episode or why it's illegal or 384 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,960 that one. And we basically since the 80s, 385 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:26,160 it was like there was an increase of almost 56% of 386 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,560 incarcerated humans in the United States. 387 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,880 And it's like, so you're telling us that either we've got five 388 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,360 times the amount of population that just instantly dropped, or 389 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:39,560 we've just got five times the amount of stupid people or like, 390 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,920 what is it that we're, you know, what correlates to that? 391 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:48,560 Cannabis is always been around our our civilization, right? 392 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,920 For thousands of years. You could date it back to, you 393 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,800 know, Chinese emperor dynasties. Back. 394 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,520 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, using it for treating, for 395 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,480 gout. So to, to, to somehow think that 396 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,000 all of a sudden there was just this influx of cannabis usage, 397 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,960 you know what I mean? So it's wild again, when you 398 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,720 start having those types of conversations and asking why 399 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,920 it's, it's really powerful. And those are the things that I 400 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,760 think connect and unite people in the community because we know 401 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,800 what this plan is about. We know what it can do to 402 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,240 disrupt everything in our system right now, right? 403 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Like this can help break down that system, right? 404 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,480 How many people that are now cannabis users don't ever have 405 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,280 to rely on traditional pharmaceuticals ever again, 406 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,680 ever, ever drugs and have these prescription cocktails of just, 407 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,160 you know, taking one prescription after the next 408 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,600 because you know, this had creates another side effect and 409 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,560 all of a sudden you're on 8 pills and you're like, what what 410 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,680 the hell just happened? I just I just blew my knee out 411 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,760 playing basketball. What what what's going on? 412 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,720 So I think again, when you realize that you're like, 413 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,920 there's something here, there is something here, right? 414 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,040 Well, Speaking of something here, you have not been able to 415 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,880 partake. So you need to warm that up. 416 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:04,960 And actually I wanted to to talk about that if we're able to. 417 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,160 So this is a new product that you guys are developing. 418 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Yeah, So basically what this is a dry herb vaporizer, right? 419 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,360 Nothing novel or unique at the end of the day, right. 420 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:18,920 But what's unique in Utah to, to a lot of other maybe adult youth 421 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,040 States and even some medical states is smoking or or 422 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,400 combustion to flour is prohibited, right? 423 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,200 Because we are a medical state. And I don't know any doctor 424 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,920 that's going to tell you that burning something, inhaling into 425 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,080 your lungs is going to be healthy and good for you, right? 426 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,560 That that's, that's the reality of it. 427 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,040 So from a medical perspective, being able to safely dry or 428 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,720 vaporize, not only is it a healthier way to consume, it's a 429 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,880 more efficient way to consume cannabis because you get greater 430 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,600 bioavailability by dry or vaporizing than you do if you're 431 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,680 burning, right, because you know you're just burning. 432 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,120 All that, it's only like 20 or 30% maybe of bioavailability 433 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:02,120 that you get total. Between 22 to 24. 434 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:03,680 Percent. Yeah, Not massive. 435 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,200 So, so yeah, that that. That's even higher than edibles 436 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,280 if you vaporize it because edibles is only like it's under 437 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,640 40%. Well, and that's some of the 438 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,600 things. Is, is, is actually less because 439 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,680 from edibles it goes through first pass metabolism, right? 440 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,000 So your body's kicking out all these other things. 441 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,400 So you're actually getting less than you are through inhaling, 442 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,600 right? So But what's unique about 443 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,520 edibles is it creates a metabolite. 444 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,880 As less into your. Liver, right? 445 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,600 Yeah, exactly. And it's, you know, 11 hydroxy 446 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,760 THC is six to seven times stronger than regular THC. 447 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,800 So that's why most of the stories you hear about about 448 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,560 people getting really messed up and like, man, I took an edible. 449 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,400 It's cuz you literally. Took way more than what you 450 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,640 would have if you'd looked at the milligrams and you're like, 451 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,480 well, this puff was only this and you're like, well, the 452 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,000 edible said it was this, but when you calculate it as 11 453 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000 hydroxy THC, you're like, you know, you're way higher 454 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:56,520 milligrams. Oh yeah. 455 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,880 It's like giving, I've got an analogy I use is like giving a 456 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:04,680 16 year old the car keys to a Ferrari and be like here first 457 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,000 time go ahead just just drive it right? 458 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,760 You've never driven before right? 459 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,000 Here check this out. So that's really unique in of 460 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,280 itself. But what I love about these dry 461 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:17,080 herb vaporizers, honestly, is the efficiency, right? 462 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,960 The efficiency, because at the end of the day, we're talking 463 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,720 about medicine and you want to be able to utilize every single 464 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,040 cannabinoid and terpene of your medicine and not be wasting it 465 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,680 'cause you're paying good money for this, right? 466 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:35,760 And you'd be surprised how much cannabis you save and how much 467 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,480 less you go through when you start dry herb vaporizing, 468 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,000 right? You can. 469 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,480 Sit and you know, smoke a you know a 1G J by yourself, no? 470 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,520 Problem. And in this chamber is 1/3 of a 471 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,400 gram and I will still get the same effects, if not better than 472 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,480 smoking A1 gram J. So that's what's beautiful about 473 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,280 this. And having this dryer vaporizer 474 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,960 as well too. If you're a connoisseur of 475 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,520 flour. I, I like to explain as if 476 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,040 you're a connoisseur of wine and you appreciate all the different 477 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,120 varietals and the different notes and tones and flavors that 478 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,200 you get, well, you're gonna pick up on this. 479 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,400 You're not just tasting smoke, tasting burnt. 480 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,720 You taste every single profile. And the cool thing is with 481 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,160 theirs, like their dryer vaporizer, it has a lot of them 482 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,760 don't give a full temperature control. 483 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,960 It only gives you like 3 priests at settings that goes on there. 484 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,160 And this gives you a complete temperature range. 485 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,040 And I don't know if you're allowed to or I'm allowed to say 486 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,400 the price point on it, but it's coming in at like $50. 487 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Yeah, that's the goal. This still has not hit the 488 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,520 market. We're still going. 489 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,880 Through the prototyping stages and everything, but that is the 490 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,360 goal to get this down so it's affordable for people, right? 491 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,600 Because most of those dry air vaporizers entry level that are 492 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,600 mediocre like. You're 250 if you're $90.00 for 493 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,600 like. Some of the G pans that that 494 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,240 that are like just. Like really tiny and. 495 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,280 Flimsy and stuff, right? But to get something really 496 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,280 good? Yeah, Yeah. 497 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,320 These are expensive. 250 This one's 400. 498 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,600 This one is 2. 75 the air vape, I mean it's very sexy. 499 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,360 It's got all the temperature control, it looks cool, but it 500 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:12,360 is the affordability and especially right now where a 501 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,200 company such as like air vap, there's a lot that went into 502 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,160 this. It's a heavy device that being 503 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,480 able to scale it down to availability helps people to be 504 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,680 able to enjoy more Thailand. Oh yeah. 505 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,160 So much more portable than any of these. 506 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, dude, for real. 507 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,680 No problem. Like the little Nokias? 508 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,480 But but the biggest thing is user interface, right? 509 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,680 Making it simple and easy to use. 510 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,000 We were talking about this a little bit earlier of like how 511 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,280 some of these other devices you got to buy extra stuff and 512 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,080 they're not designed. It doesn't seems like it's not 513 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,600 designed for the user. And it's like, wait, who made 514 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,120 this? How do you load, you know, herb 515 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,880 into your dry herb vaporizer, right? 516 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,440 So all those things take into consideration and making 517 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,320 something that's easy for somebody who's just entering 518 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,800 cannabis, right? So they know how to do it. 519 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,360 And this is about as simple as grinding up a little bit of 520 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:07,040 herb, taking off the magnetic top, dropping it into the fundal 521 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,520 chamber that's in there. So none of your herb drops on 522 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,200 the outside. It goes right into there. 523 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,720 And then pressing the button 12345 times and it turns on and 524 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,640 you have variable temperature. And why is variable temperature 525 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,400 important? Because there are different 526 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,720 boiling points for terpenes, right and even cannabinoids, 527 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,480 they all have different temperatures, right? 528 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,040 So you know, if you just go straight to smoking and burning, 529 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,280 you're at a very high temperature. 530 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840 So you're actually burning away a lot of the terpenes. 531 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,360 And so you don't get a lot of flavor and taste when you're 532 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,640 just smoking AJ but in here you can adjust your temperature. 533 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,680 You're talking you start around 360 or so. 534 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,760 I just buzzed I'm I'm at 380 right now. 535 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,880 That's where I like to start. But most people, they might not 536 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,320 get the the type of vapor that they're used to when they're 537 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,200 smoking AJ. So they're like, I'm gonna burn 538 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,560 it at 450°, which I mean, you're still gonna get the effect, but 539 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,440 you miss out on a lot of the experience and the taste and the 540 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,120 tone. So, well, and you can always go 541 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,280 up. So the cannabinoids that burn 542 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,880 off at 380 don't burn off at 365 or don't you know? 543 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,640 And same with the ones that burn off at 400 don't burn off at 544 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,240 these lower temps. So you can still hit different 545 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,080 temps and get different terps, different experiences from each 546 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,720 stage that you go through. Exactly. 547 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,080 And what's really cool too is that with the vaporizer, like I 548 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:28,320 can sometimes get 2 or even 3 burns out of one bowl and that's 549 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,040 pretty amazing. Like that one time long time ago 550 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,240 when we drove up to that cannabis event and we puffed on 551 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760 that packs. In the packs that thing lasted, 552 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,640 we had like a 40 minute session on one bowl. 553 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,000 One bowl. In a packs. 554 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,640 Cause the packs didn't, I mean, I do like, you know, where 555 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,320 they've got time control so they get the most out of your bowl, 556 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,880 but that thing just goes. Like that's one thing I will say 557 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,520 about the packs was really cool is it just goes. 558 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,400 But other than that, like as far as the flavor profiles, 559 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,880 everything, it's the best way. And that's a it's an easier way 560 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,480 to go flower first. Absolutely right 'cause it's 561 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520 simple, right? Because look, there's a lot of 562 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,480 people out there that don't know how to roll JS, right? 563 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,960 They don't know how to do roll blunts or. 564 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,000 All this other thing so I've been at least a decade into 565 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,320 cannabis and I still I can roll a joint a joint, but I don't 566 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,240 hand roll one because I've got devices that will do it. 567 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,120 I've even had like the J rolling machine that I use because I've 568 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:28,480 just never been good at hand rolling. 569 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,400 AJI can hand roll a blunt just fine. 570 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,880 I'm pretty. Decent with the Ji. 571 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Don't like smoking blunts? Honestly, I would, if I'm going 572 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040 to choose that, I would much rather smoke AJ because I don't 573 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,240 like the tobacco paper. I'm just a fucking weirdo, but 574 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,360 that's me. And so like, like you said, a 575 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,240 lot of people don't do that. And this, this is fantastic. 576 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,920 You get such a wide range of flavors of terps and you can 577 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,440 craft that experience depending on, you know, what temperature 578 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,320 that you want on that. So. 579 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,120 And that's huge And, and we want more people to have that kind of 580 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040 experience, right? And how do you do that? 581 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,920 Well, you gotta make it affordable for people, you know 582 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,000 what I mean? Like people do. 583 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Not everybody can go out and buy a $200.00 device. 584 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,880 Or a $400.00 device exactly. So that's. 585 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,560 I mean, even the cost of regulated cannabis is expensive 586 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,680 in its own. And now you tell me I gotta go 587 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,800 buy $150.00 device just so I can buy my $50 eighth? 588 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,520 Like hold on a SEC, maybe I'm just going to go to my homie 589 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,320 down the street. Yeah, yeah, for real. 590 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,400 And that's. What happens every day? 591 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,480 Those are the choices people make every single day, right? 592 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,280 And that's the the the consumer psyche that goes through peoples 593 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,040 minds. We are wired to not do hard 594 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,000 stuff right? Like it's our fight or flight 595 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,280 mentality. Do not go towards pain and 596 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,920 heartache and challenge like we got away from it. 597 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,080 So people are always going to gravitate to what's easiest, 598 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,760 right? And right now what what I'm 599 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,920 super happy about here in Utah's program is we have over 81,000 600 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,320 patients in the program. That said, I don't care about 601 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,120 everything else. I'm going to jump through all 602 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,160 the hoops. I'm going to go to my doctor, 603 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,360 I'm going to get a card, I'm going to register and I'm going 604 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,120 to go get a pharmacist consultation. 605 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,520 I'm going to go to one of the 15 pharmacies. 606 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,760 Even if it's not close to me, I'm going to still do it. 607 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,360 And I'm going to do everything harder than what it was pre 608 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,600 2020. How many people are like, yeah, 609 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,200 I want my life to be harder? Like anybody can call a friend 610 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,960 or a homie that knows somebody who's somebody and. 611 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,600 You get a $25 aid and you're like, cool, well, not I don't 612 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,160 have to worry. But for you to order online and 613 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,360 get it delivered to your house from us, from Dragonfly Wellness 614 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,320 in downtown Salt Lake City, you got to jump through hoops. 615 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,160 And the amount of money that it takes you to even get your card 616 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,720 in the 1st place, those are all just bottlenecks, right? 617 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Challenges and barriers for people because I can promise you 618 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,920 there are more than 81,000 people in the state of Utah with 619 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,720 three and a half million people that. 620 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880 Are using cannabis right now in. Fact, I was just in Wendover a 621 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,320 couple of weeks ago at Deep Roots Harvest at the border of 622 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Wendover in Utah. Every single car in the parking. 623 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,200 Lot. Utah, Utah, I'm like, yeah, I 624 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,400 don't think that they were building a dispensary in the 625 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,720 middle of the desert for Nevada residents, so. 626 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,640 It's not it's Utah ones. It's like same when you go to 627 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,160 Dinosaur you go to these other ones. 628 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,320 They have 3 dispensaries in Dinosaur Co yet that town is 629 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,480 tiny. I don't even know if there's 630 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,000 1000 people in that town. There's no way they need. 631 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,600 There was a dyspo that was like what was one of those tough 632 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,000 sheds? It looked like a tough shed. 633 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,920 But 100%, it is just built on the edges of these states for 634 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,920 the other states that they're like, yeah, all of these people 635 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,360 are just gonna come here. Yep, make it more convenient for 636 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,440 them and. It's wild. 637 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,320 Why? Again, accessibility. 638 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Why are we forcing people to drive ours across the border, 639 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,760 break the law, bring it back when we could make it more 640 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,400 accessible here? Right. 641 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,720 And and I know I'm sure there's people listening like Nerys. 642 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,720 You're, you're a draft player. You're the one charging these 643 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,760 prices, man. What do you you're the problem? 644 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Again, it's not like it's all of the trickling down of the 645 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,560 system. And we discussed it like there 646 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,320 is no tax. Like you basically don't get tax 647 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,760 breaks as a cannabis business. You pay all of your income. 648 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,360 Everything is taxed at the beginning. 649 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,280 And then like after you've done it all, then you're like, cool, 650 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,720 what do I have left? Versus like companies who write 651 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,000 off all their taxes, get all of these tax breaks and then it's 652 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,920 like, cool, well, now we have 40% more income to basically 653 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200 work with and you have every cannabis company who's like, 654 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,960 well, we have 40% less income that we're working with and 655 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,680 we've all got all these same margins. 656 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,720 So it sucks because like Utah has way tons of regulation, but 657 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,000 yet and and it's still like no system I look at, I feel like is 658 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,880 perfect, but I feel like we are we are trying. 659 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:07,400 But again, there's a lot of miss misdirection. 660 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,840 I feel like with our actual system, because we've we've 661 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,240 talked about it like there's a lot of things with our medical 662 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,720 program that are treated almost like it's a recreational thing 663 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,240 still. And yet everyone who is in there 664 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,680 is strictly for medical and even like the allowed conditions for 665 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,320 medical is incredibly close minded for our state to go, Hey, 666 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680 this is medical. But like, OK, well, there's 667 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,720 proven value for all of these things, but we're going to make 668 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,600 it really hard for you to get it unless you have chronic pain. 669 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,680 OK, well, who anyone can have chronic pain. 670 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,200 So does that mean that we just have every single person in Utah 671 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,960 going and going, Hey, I have chronic pain. 672 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,560 Hey, I have chronic pain. That's. 673 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,600 Exactly what happens, what the statistics of the medical 674 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,360 cannabis program here in Utah are 80% of all medical cannabis 675 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,720 patients are qualifying under chronic pain. 676 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,360 When you have a whole laundry list of other conditions, right? 677 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:10,080 And what happens is when you create this tiny Ave. for people 678 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,239 to get access, people want to be legal. 679 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,120 Oh yeah, people don't. Want to look over their shoulder 680 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520 and worry about what's going to happen to them if their kids are 681 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600 going to get taken away, if they're going to get pulled over 682 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,800 right and go to jail, like for doing possessing something. 683 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,960 For using that in. The next state over, you could 684 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,920 go buy it just like you buy alcohol, Yeah. 685 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,440 So real easy. It's so it's wild to have that 686 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,080 juxtaposition for people to, to, to be in. 687 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,960 And basically what we're doing is we're, we're, we're telling 688 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,040 people to, to lie. Yeah, hey, I know you wanna use 689 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,159 this for something else. Maybe you're, you're, you're 690 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,840 suffering from anxiety, maybe with some depression, but guess 691 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,239 what? Those are not qualifying 692 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,280 conditions. Yep. 693 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,320 Only PTSD is. And that's if you have like a 694 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,360 history where. There's. 695 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,760 Psychiatrist and that. PSD is a real thing. 696 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,640 That's not something you just roll in doc. 697 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,480 Hey, can you tell? Me. 698 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,560 No, there's a lot of testing. So it doesn't work that way, 699 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,960 right? So, so think about that. 700 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,800 You just left out 30% of our population. 701 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,120 And why do I say 30 percent, 30%? 702 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,960 Because this is not a great statistic for Utah to be #1 in, 703 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,320 but we were number one in mental health related issues. 704 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,920 And I believe it. We are it's 100% look it up. 705 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,360 It's an it's an just Google it, right? 706 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:35,360 It, it, it's tough to accept that fact, right? 707 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,160 When you kind of look around and you live here and you're like, 708 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,800 God, we have such a beautiful state, right? 709 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,800 We have such a young, vibrant community. 710 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,800 We are also the youngest demographic in the nation. 711 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,280 The youngest? Yeah, Mormons multiply like 712 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,760 amoeba. Yeah, yeah, we do go to Costco, 713 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,520 man, on a Saturday, 246, right? But it's wild. 714 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,360 It's wild when you just stop and you just look at those 715 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,320 statistics and you ask yourself why. 716 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,680 Yeah, why? What is going on here in Utah? 717 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,760 That puts US number one. And there's a lot of factors and 718 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,160 we could get into that conversation if the conversation 719 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,560 takes us there. But mental health is a real 720 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,160 thing in our state and basically what we're saying by not having 721 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,680 qualifying conditions that include those people. 722 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,040 Good luck. Go through the traditional 723 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,480 route, go get your prescription drugs, go get your anxiety 724 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,400 medications and those. Just because they're legal does 725 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,200 not mean they are good for you. Yeah, have less side effects or 726 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,200 less concerning issues or something. 727 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:41,320 Well, and it's it's short term, it's not something that's going 728 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,360 to affect you long term. That's a bad meaning if you. 729 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,360 In what's really nice about that and especially those who who 730 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,760 could qualify for this if they don't those who don't qualify 731 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,520 for it they don't really have any guidance and there's not 732 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,120 really anything you can say other than what your experience 733 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,800 is is some of the reasons why this podcast has been so 734 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,840 successful because you can live vicariously through us and what 735 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,120 we're consuming going. Yeah, I feel this like we one of 736 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,120 the funniest reviews I ever said, like this guy put down was 737 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,120 I love listening to this even when I'm out of bud because I 738 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,000 can virtually smoke with you guys and and and have a sash and 739 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,320 have a sash like you guys describe the feeling enough. 740 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,200 I'm just like, yeah, that's what I'm feeling right now. 741 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,760 Like damn, dude, that's some that one that's sad. 742 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,800 It's very that's sad. But at the other time though, 743 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,440 that's, that's what we need those programs open and 744 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,680 available to those individuals who are suffering in, in more 745 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:41,840 ways than, you know, bad back, bad joints, whatever, you know, 746 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,120 fibromyalgia, it's pretty mad. And you know, it's, you know, I 747 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,440 know autism is on that as well, but that's so it's not, not even 748 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,240 close as frequent as it should be leveraged. 749 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,960 And it, it's, you know, you, I even I, I work with this 750 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,400 functional medicine clinic and working with them, one of their 751 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,840 doctors, just like, yeah, I'm actually gonna get this kid. 752 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,520 The only reason why they can put him on that one's 'cause he 753 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520 qualifies to under autism. That's it. 754 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,760 But it's mostly severe depression and anxiety, like 755 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,400 suicidal ideations. And she's like, I'm gonna give 756 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,200 this a go. I was like, wow, that's cool. 757 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,640 Let me know how that you know, let me know if the parents buy 758 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080 it because I think that's another difficult thing is the 759 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,920 education for the public and, and letting them know that this, 760 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,520 this isn't a bad thing. Yeah. 761 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,960 Yeah. And that's the thing that, you 762 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,720 know, we just need to be able to do more of, right? 763 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,600 Is that education side from from everybody, right, from you 764 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,160 people like you guys, people like us that are running 765 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,560 operations, are our government bodies that have supported this 766 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,800 program, right? And, and are regulating this 767 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,560 program that there is more that we could do to educate people. 768 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,320 Like we have a program here and it's working for for 81,000 769 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,800 people. Why aren't we on the rooftops 770 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,720 shouting about it, right? And talking about it? 771 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,680 And sometimes I don't think that the medical cannabis program 772 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,760 gets the credit it deserves. And one perfect example I'll 773 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,480 share with you is at the end of last year, there was an article 774 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,640 published from Intermountain Healthcare where they basically 775 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,760 were looking at data and opiate usage data between 2019 to 2023. 776 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,680 And between those years, there was a 30% reduction in opiate 777 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,040 usage. Interesting. 778 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,440 Which means that less opiate usage, less opiate addiction, 779 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,720 less opiate deaths, less people are dying, and. 780 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:37,520 We have a massive overdose issue with opioids like Utah has a 781 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,320 we're top. Five in suicides, yeah, as well, 782 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,400 too. And those aren't just 783 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,560 intentional suicides, right? Some of them are accidental in 784 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,920 some cases, right? So, but those these these 785 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,400 statistics are stunning that they're here and we literally 786 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,360 have the tools right in front of us to help. 787 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,160 And by no means, and I'm saying the cannabis is end all the 788 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,560 solution for everybody because everybody's body is different. 789 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,080 Oh yeah, man. It sure helps a lot of people. 790 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,360 It's an outside tool to have in your toolbox, yeah. 791 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,040 But but back to that 30% is, you know, what was the credit that 792 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:19,200 IHC gave for this 30% reduction? It was education, right? 793 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,360 We told people about this, right? 794 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,880 We, we educated doctors about the, the, the, the risk of 795 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,640 opiates. Well, kind of you'd be like, 796 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,840 well, shouldn't you known that already? 797 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,680 And the short answer is we did anybody who knows anything about 798 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,240 Pardue Pharmaceuticals, Sacre family and the story behind 799 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,800 opiates, you would know that it was all a cover, but been a lie. 800 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,320 FDA had all this information. So that's a whole. 801 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,120 Other conversation we can talk. About but yeah, give credit to 802 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,720 that. Oh, it's the know your scripts 803 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:48,840 program, right. It's because, you know, we, we 804 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,320 had this thing to talk to people and and we were able to reduce 805 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,760 it through that. Not one mention about our 806 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,080 medical cannabis program started in 2019. 807 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:03,560 Yeah, not one. And, and, and again, why aren't 808 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,000 we on the rooftops shouting that? 809 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,040 So those are one of the things that I'm working towards as well 810 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,400 too, is collecting the data. Because then the data doesn't 811 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,320 lie, right? People lie, people have 812 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,760 opinions, people misread data, but the data doesn't lie, right? 813 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,560 And what the data will show, and it's going to show that there's 814 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,640 a very direct correlation between medical cannabis 815 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,760 prescription usage and opiate prescription usage, right? 816 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,000 And this study was done in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, 817 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,440 right? This was originally done over 818 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,040 there where I first met MSA Management Science Associates, 819 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,640 right? It's the data analytics company 820 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,000 that is that we're working with to be able to do this. 821 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,800 They did that exact study. This is how they actually found 822 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,160 me. I was speaking at an event at 823 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,440 like one of the cannabis conferences and one of the 824 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,320 gentlemen that was from their team approached me after, said, 825 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,680 hey, I really connected with what you were talking about. 826 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,520 And your goal towards focusing cannabis is medicine and trying 827 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,640 to find solutions to our opioid problem. 828 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,560 And we have something to share with you, right? 829 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,880 And in Allegheny County, they did that exact study where they 830 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,080 were able to take medical cannabis pharmacy data and pair 831 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,560 that with EMR data, electronic medical records, right? 832 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,360 Then when you go to the hospital, the doctor writes the 833 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,960 script. It's in an electronic system. 834 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,800 They know all those prescriptions, especially if 835 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,040 it's a controlled substance. Doctors are required to have 836 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,040 these licenses, so they know you're taking these medications 837 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,880 that are out there. And they were able to show a 838 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,720 very direct correlation because you can see the people that were 839 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:45,040 once using opiates and are now consuming cannabis and voila. 840 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:52,000 So we're on this journey to make sure that everybody knows gives 841 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,880 cannabis the credit that it deserves, that this is real 842 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,200 medicine and it is healing people despite what your belief 843 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,960 is, right. And at one time you could say 844 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,280 because it's federally illegal, you can no longer say that 845 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,080 because the DEA just recommended to reschedule cannabis from 846 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,400 schedule one to schedule three. That is monumental. 847 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,200 How are you gonna argue that now? 848 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,160 Now you gotta, well, you could probably argue and say, well, I 849 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,800 don't believe in the government, which is easy to do, but you 850 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,120 can't use that, that, that, that scapegoat anymore and say it's, 851 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,520 it's illegal. That I, I don't wanna well, 852 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,120 somebody that, that, that's smart enough to provide data and 853 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,800 information. The Department of Health and 854 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,640 Human Services of the United States provided that 855 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,800 recommendation to them that because schedule one states no 856 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,360 medicinal benefit and. Highly addictive and that. 857 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,680 You you cannot stand on any leg if you want to try to make the 858 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,240 argument and says has no medicinal benefit, so it does 859 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,760 not belong on schedule one. No, and and I mean, I know you 860 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,040 know, it's it's just past. I mean it's not going into 861 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,480 effect right now. They still have time for 862 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,200 individuals to appeal it, to be able to bring it back, which 863 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,560 would slow it down. But it is moving forward. 864 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,400 That's one thing that is clear. It is moving forward. 865 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,320 But with that said and being in the business as you are, what do 866 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,600 you see happen to Rex states? What's your? 867 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,520 Opinion. Oh, man, I, I mean, look, let, 868 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,040 let, let's look at the current landscape of how our healthcare 869 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,520 system works right now, right? Like it is all one integrated 870 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,560 system, right? With pharmaceutical drug 871 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,000 companies who work directly with insurance companies and those 872 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,240 insurance companies working directly with the hospital 873 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:40,200 networks. It's all one ecosystem that is 874 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,440 very difficult to crack, right? And the nature of that is, is 875 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,840 that these big companies are big companies and have a lot of 876 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,840 money and they need to because they have a lot of liability as 877 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,760 well. Too, because they. 878 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,360 Are providing prescription drugs for, you know, 300 million 879 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,600 Americans, right? So that's a lot of people. 880 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,320 That's a big market that you got to take care of. 881 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,800 So, but these big pharmaceutical companies also have the deep 882 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,960 pockets to go through clinical trials. 883 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,880 Like clinical trials are five to seven-year periods. 884 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,680 And you're talking millions, millions of dollars to be able 885 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,720 to do that, man. I don't know a lot of cannabis 886 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:22,200 operators who even have $1,000,000, right? 887 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,800 Because back to that whole challenge, only 25% of cannabis 888 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,680 companies are actually profitable. 889 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,320 The other 75% are just hanging on by a thread or just in it for 890 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,080 the passion because they love it, right? 891 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,640 But that is a huge, huge hurdle to be able to jump over, right? 892 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,280 When you think about that. So this system is built to not 893 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,480 break. So how do you create cannabis 894 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,360 products that are now FDA approved if you're just 895 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,600 Dragonfly in Salt Lake City, UT? So. 896 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,800 Double edged sword there. What is the future of that 897 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,200 actually look like if you're an adult use state and people 898 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,000 aren't getting an FDA approved product, only FDA approved 899 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,720 products are going to get covered by insurance. 900 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,480 So now you've got the likes of big pharmaceuticals that already 901 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,880 have purchased cannabis companies. 902 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,640 You can just Google Pfizer and Arena Pharmaceuticals. 903 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,960 You can also look up patents that have already been placed 904 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,360 for cannabinoids based products. Yeah. 905 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,680 So now it's just a race for who has the most money to get to the 906 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,640 first clinical trials to have the first patent that nobody 907 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,880 else. Can copy then because they hold 908 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,240 the patent so then unless they find a different cannabinoid or 909 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:44,360 create their own version of something different and then 910 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,720 again that becomes a patent and then no one can do that so. 911 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,240 We know that maybe that there's something magic in this strain 912 00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:55,520 here that could really help people with their mental clarity 913 00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:59,760 and their focus and their mood and something that maybe they 914 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,120 wouldn't have to rely on an Adderall or something, right, to 915 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,280 get things done. And you're happy and uplifted 916 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,480 and connected and engaged and having amazing conversations 917 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,880 with people. That's what I feel like right 918 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,400 now with this. How am I ever going to patent 919 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,200 this? Yeah. 920 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,400 Do you guys have, you know, $50 million I can borrow? 921 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,600 Let me pull that you. Guys, I can record a. 922 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,040 Lot more. So you've been hiding it, huh? 923 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,440 But that that's the game that we're talking about right now. 924 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,440 So that this is what I'm saying to these adult Hugh states that 925 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,520 it's going to be very difficult to compete in a Schedule 3. 926 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,920 Space. Almost impossible, yeah. 927 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,400 So. The does that create a separate 928 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,160 like do they open up and have it be a medical and then a wreck 929 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,040 version of like, well, there's medical for that, But if it's a 930 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,720 wreck adult, but again, there's still adult use. 931 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,680 Like do they just play outside of that realm of like it? 932 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,520 Hey, it's been schedule one. So that's kind of the realm that 933 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,120 it's already been in. I think you'll probably see that 934 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,520 because it I mean to think about adaptation in there, there's 935 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,400 going to be FDA approved cannabis products, but again, 936 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,320 it's going through those clinical trials. 937 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,000 So for right now, I think in, in this just hypothesis on my side, 938 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,120 it's they're just gonna kind of let things run the way they are. 939 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,520 They're not gonna. I mean, I, I hope that Utah 940 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,120 doesn't change to a rec state because I've seen what rec 941 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,680 states, what happens there, and it's extremely poor quality 942 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:29,680 product. Better qualifying conditions, 943 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,040 More qualifying. Conditions and regulations on. 944 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:37,080 Better access because again when you're in a medical state and 945 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,160 it's classified as a medicine, if you're only having 15 946 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,520 pharmacies in your entire state in this size of a state where it 947 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,440 can take over 8 hours to drive from one point to another in 948 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,680 certain areas like that's a long ass time. 949 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,400 You have to give your patients way more access. 950 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,920 So either the ability to do like homegrown or giving way more 951 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,280 pharmacies because it limit the like. 952 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,880 And again, maybe not every product is FDA regulated, but 953 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,080 there still needs to be a higher set of regulation because we 954 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,640 still see sub par products like everywhere. 955 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,040 Well, and it, it kind of goes to say like what we, what we were 956 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,520 able to see out there grow like state-of-the-art everything from 957 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:28,040 water to lighting to timing the minerals to the drying process 958 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,920 to the trimming. Like it's very, very, it's so 959 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,040 well orchestrated to be able to get you that final product. 960 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,120 Like what we're smoking on now. Like it, it just pure magic. 961 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,360 Yeah, yeah, man. It's something that we we don't 962 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,400 see enough of. And that's where other Rex 963 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,880 states kind of get away with everything. 964 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,960 Like we talked about with with some of your guys over there, 965 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,560 they were just like, yeah, in California, they've got, they've 966 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,200 got testing labs everywhere and they'll fudge the and they'll 967 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,720 fudge the results too. They don't care. 968 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,760 You just pay them. That's one of the things that 969 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,120 again, our program doesn't do enough to give ourselves credit 970 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,280 for that of how great of a quality program and quality 971 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,560 testing we have here. Because when you see the Coas on 972 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,560 ours on, on our products, they are actually true percentages, 973 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,280 not dry lab results, which is what happens in every adult. 974 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,840 You stayed out there like it is the pay to play game. 975 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,520 There's that many labs out there. 976 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,960 And if you're not willing to good give a, a, a good test 977 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,360 result, they're just gonna take that $30,000 of business 978 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,400 somewhere else. And you as a lab gotta make a 979 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,600 decision. Do I stay in business or do I do 980 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,800 the right thing? Same business And that's tough, 981 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,880 right? But for us, you know, when you 982 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,600 walk into a dragonfly Wellness pharmacy that you are going to 983 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,400 get those potencies and you're going to feel it. 984 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,120 And I think that's a a huge reason why you guys are like, 985 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,480 yo, dragonfly flower hits a different because you could go 986 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:09,040 by 30% boof anywhere in Colorado in in in Nevada, you get all day 987 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,520 long. But is it truly 30%? 988 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,440 How how how like? You go there and if like half of 989 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,400 their stuff is 30%, you're like, no, it's not Wow. 990 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,880 You guys found the secret sauce? Bro who's your grower? 991 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,360 Like hook me up Very. Difficult to get flour above 30% 992 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,520 right like that. That is an anomaly. 993 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,960 So it's, it's wild. It's wild that you see that 994 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,840 consistently in in other states that are there and then you try 995 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,640 it and you're like, that was no different than the 15% that I 996 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,360 just, you know, that that I just had. 997 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:45,640 And that's the other anomaly there as well too, is that this 998 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,000 focus on THC and potency. The highest that's. 999 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,880 Why I appreciate what you guys do because you give a platform 1000 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,520 on a voice for the other things outside of the one major 1001 00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,080 cannabinoid, right? And you give the love to the 1002 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,880 terpenes. That's why this strain that 1003 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,200 we're puffing on or have been is actually one of their grows and 1004 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,160 it's not out yet or just about to be out. 1005 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,880 It is about to drop next week. And it is you imagine an 1006 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,960 exclusive like it is a high CBG strain and. 1007 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,880 It is bad. I feel very toasty. 1008 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,960 Like one of the best experiences that I think that we have had 1009 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,240 did. You guys say you're a less high 1010 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,800 or more high than other strains that you normally? 1011 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,360 I'd say I'm, I'm right now I'm more, I feel really good though, 1012 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,560 Like it's, it's so much that I'm super relaxed, but I'm very 1013 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,000 aware. And that's kind of a unique 1014 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,120 thing 'cause some sativa strains and again, it's going into the 1015 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,360 percentages, like it's not about the high percentages when we 1016 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:51,040 started this podcast, like it was primarily carts and there's 1017 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,800 a. Good amount of carts. 1018 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,920 Yeah, oh, I mean like it was rare when we were had flower on. 1019 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,440 Now it's like flower all the time. 1020 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,920 But we we enjoy the flower just because of of how it hits. 1021 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,640 It just hits different. It just hits different. 1022 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,000 And with the carts, it was always about the high 1023 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,760 percentages. Now I just don't have the pallet 1024 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,560 for it. Some of them for sometimes. 1025 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,960 Most of what we were doing, like at the beginning, wow. 1026 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,920 Oh yeah, Most of it was disti. When we first started, there was 1027 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,800 a lot of just most lead distillates, distillates across 1028 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,520 the the market. And so when I was going out to 1029 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,640 Denver and getting carts, it was all distillate. 1030 00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:37,080 It wasn't until a couple years ago that we started seeing more 1031 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,680 of the live resin, the live resin coming into play. 1032 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,720 And that was just kind of I think what changed the game 1033 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:48,200 because before that it was like, what is your highest THC 1034 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,840 experience? Because they really it when it's 1035 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,640 distilled all the way down, you don't get the turbines, you 1036 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,280 don't get anything. So it's really just more of like 1037 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,720 a here, this is gonna make you feel something. 1038 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,360 And you know, I mean, it did, but it wasn't the best. 1039 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,960 But yeah, exactly. You're not being able to fully 1040 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,720 get that experience. And that even goes to now where 1041 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:12,480 I feel that consumers are going more towards high quality 1042 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,720 anyways. They're asking for high quality. 1043 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,640 You're gonna have those guys drinking the Canadian hose, 1044 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,800 plastic jug always on sale at the liquor store, you know, 1045 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,400 whiskey. You're gonna have those people 1046 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,360 in the cannabis world, too. They don't care. 1047 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,120 Yeah. They're like, we just want to 1048 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,560 get. I just want to get fucked up. 1049 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,280 Like, all right, cool. I mean, if that's your game, 1050 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,520 that's cool. That's why those adults state 1051 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,280 the adult youth states. I don't, I don't like where 1052 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,520 those markets have gone. I just feel that they've just 1053 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,160 given subpar product and that people just don't know any 1054 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,520 better. It's like people who use. 1055 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:53,280 Like Delta AI think it really comes down to a not being 1056 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,240 properly educated on like the quality of the product, the 1057 00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:58,200 experience. Same with D8. 1058 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,760 I don't most of the people that use it and I'm they just. 1059 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,880 Don't know any better. They. 1060 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,480 Yeah. And usually it's people who 1061 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,760 don't consume real cannabis, so they've been introduced into it 1062 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,880 and they're like, well. This gives me a feeling. 1063 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,880 This because my friend said I should try it and it's not weed 1064 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,440 so it's OK and then they try it and they're like well I like 1065 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,240 this feeling but for anyone who really uses cannabis it just 1066 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:24,160 feels like synthetic fake. Yeah, it's gross. 1067 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,000 It's a gross experience but for those who have not really had 1068 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,840 the other, they feel like they look at it and go oh this is a 1069 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,960 nice experience and maybe it's a good segue for them. 1070 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,040 But if they actually had tried like the real plant, I bet they 1071 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,800 would struggle going back. Oh yeah, absolutely. 1072 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:48,200 And that's why, you know, dryer vaporizing is, is, is seriously 1073 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,720 where a lot of this needs to be going. 1074 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,560 I mean, I'm odd against burning the plant. 1075 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,800 I enjoy it. I enjoy bong. 1076 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,840 You guys know that we love our bong. 1077 00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,000 Oh yeah, George Jetson. And it's, it's an awesome, you 1078 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,760 know, it's a great experience, but this is the cleanest 1079 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,400 experience. I even when I went on my tea 1080 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,080 break for over a week, right? Like when I did that, I did 1081 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,560 notice before that 'cause I was doing a lot of stood a lot of 1082 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:20,600 bongs and I started to get real like a little like a wheeze. 1083 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,200 Sometimes I'm like, whoa, but not with the dryer. 1084 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,720 I I mean, I'll cough because you really get those terps at first 1085 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,480 and it just hits your lungs just, you're like, whoa. 1086 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,640 But after a little bit. Still can be hot on your lungs, 1087 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,040 like I always still cough sometimes. 1088 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,720 But I do like the ones that have the adapter that can go down 1089 00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:47,920 into a bong because using a dryer vaporizer through a bong, 1090 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,840 holy cow, that is a whole nother level. 1091 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,120 It is, yeah. And so many different unique 1092 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,760 ways to consume cannabis, right? And there's going to be more, 1093 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,600 right? There's tons of other products 1094 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,160 that are out there you guys have tried. 1095 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,920 Some different. Products, So that's where the 1096 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,440 hope is, that's where the hope in the future still is for the 1097 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,680 adult youth side of the other states is you can do your 1098 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,360 seven-year trial and make this one specific product for this 1099 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,640 one specific condition, right? Because that's that's how 1100 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280 regular medicine works, right? You got to prove one's very 1101 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,360 specific indication that this is going to work for. 1102 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,240 But the Sky's the limit everywhere else, right? 1103 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,280 And to your point, you were saying earlier is, look, we are 1104 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,760 the United States of America, 50 unique states that can make 1105 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,400 whatever rules they want in their own states despite what 1106 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,200 the federal government does, right? 1107 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:40,760 So there is still hope, but that doesn't happen unless people 1108 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,080 like us get involved, right? Get involved and have a voice 1109 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,440 and get involved in our community and get involved with 1110 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,840 our legislature, right? And let them hear that this is 1111 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,800 something that's important and we want to make sure that it's 1112 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,440 done the right way and it it it and that goes across the board 1113 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,720 from every single angle that we don't have companies that just 1114 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,480 coming in here for just profit that have no interest in our 1115 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,400 community here at all. Right? 1116 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,400 Like what are the decisions that are going to be made when your 1117 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,800 headquarters is in another state? 1118 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,480 You have no idea what is going on right here in Utah County. 1119 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,240 You don't. So there's a a big difference 1120 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,480 between finding companies and brands and people that truly 1121 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,680 care about the people that they're serving. 1122 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,160 And you see that that happens in in dispensaries and pharmacies 1123 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,160 all over America. But I can tell you those are the 1124 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,120 ones that are just hanging on by a thread right now. 1125 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,080 Yeah, well, I feel like. And a lot of them have already 1126 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,880 exited, right? Like California, man, I mean, 1127 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,640 it's tough. It's tough to see that, right? 1128 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,400 And and it's tough to also be here, a guy that's only gotten 1129 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,040 into the cannabis industry in the last five years to be like, 1130 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,720 man, those are, you know, those are some big shoulders that I 1131 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:59,160 got to be able to stand on that elevated us right to us even 1132 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,520 have an opportunity to even have a conversation for you guys to 1133 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,920 be in 80 plus countries and people listening to what we have 1134 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:13,240 to say, it's wild. So with Utah, what do you see 1135 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,040 changing here? Well, I think the hope with Utah 1136 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,440 is that if it's a Schedule 3, it's gonna be treated like any 1137 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,880 other medication. I mean it should already. 1138 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,760 Right. So that means if your doctor, 1139 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,280 not a doctor that had to go through some special training to 1140 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,880 learn about all, you know, cannabis and four years of 1141 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,840 school, no, it's like you could prescribe all of these 1142 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,280 medications, right. So cannabis is now medication, 1143 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,760 you can prescribe it to your patient. 1144 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,120 And actually, if your patient came and asked you and said, I 1145 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,920 actually prefer this over these other things, it, it's actually 1146 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,000 your duty to serve your patient, right? 1147 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,200 Unless you have some other reason why. 1148 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,080 And it can't be that it's illegal anymore. 1149 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,040 But right now that's the challenge for doctors because 1150 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,520 there's not enough research and data. 1151 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,920 And when I do that, I, what I mean is clinical trials, that's 1152 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,800 what big pharma gets to do for us at least, right? 1153 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,320 They get to spend the money to show to doctors that they can 1154 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,480 say yes, THC and CBD does work for this. 1155 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,880 Yes, it is OK for mental health related diseases, right? 1156 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,000 Yes. There is no known lethal dose of 1157 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,160 cannabis and you could die if you accidentally take too much. 1158 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,120 As a doctor, I think I would kind of like that to prescribe 1159 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,320 you a medicine that you cannot die from. 1160 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,960 Well, they, I mean they've already done animal studies for 1161 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,720 that and they have the guesstimated dose of what it 1162 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,400 might be, but it's all hypothesized it's. 1163 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,480 Like a truckload. I mean it's ridiculous it was 1164 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,120 between 10 to 15,001 gram joint smoked in a 15 minute period 1165 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,280 might kill a person. I. 1166 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,280 Think, I think I would kill anything for that. 1167 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,520 Yeah, just the CO2 alone and they're just suck all the air. 1168 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,440 Out you would you would pass out long before you ever got to that 1169 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,880 point. Like I I don't know how that's 1170 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,400 possible, but whatever. But yeah, that's the hope that I 1171 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,160 I see, right? And what does that mean? 1172 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,520 More accessibility. Yeah, that's what we want. 1173 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,480 And guess what, if there's more patients in the program and, and 1174 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,840 now these 15 pharmacies are inundated with patients, 1175 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,600 somebody's out there is going to have to say, yeah, I, I think we 1176 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,600 might need some more pharmacies out there because trust me, 1177 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,120 there'd be dragonfly wellnesses all over Utah if if it was up to 1178 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,200 us, right, Right. But there's very specific laws 1179 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,040 and rules and limitations and and that's, you know, part for 1180 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,360 making sure that we do this the right way. 1181 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,400 We control it in the right way. We collect enough data and 1182 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,840 evidence and research to make sure that we do the things 1183 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,520 methodically. And those are the things that I 1184 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,760 do appreciate about working with our regulatory bodies and our 1185 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,960 legislators is that they're not just like, let's throw this cap, 1186 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,680 let's go, whoa, adult use. All right, everybody can just 1187 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,600 have it. No, we got to do this smartly, 1188 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,960 right? Because it's also irresponsible 1189 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,760 for people like us to sit here and say there's no problem with 1190 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,840 cannabis. That's perfectly fine, right? 1191 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,880 There's no risk of addiction or, you know, no risk of you. 1192 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,520 Know any negative side effect in? 1193 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,560 Your job, Like, come on, those are stereotypes for a reason. 1194 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,160 Like, everybody is different, right? 1195 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,960 But to put everybody in the same box, that's just unfair. 1196 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,080 Right. Yeah, it totally. 1197 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,680 Is that's where the hope is that it's just going to be easy for 1198 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,000 somebody who's like, ah, dude, like I have a have a freaking 1199 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,800 toothache or you know, I freaking, you know, my arm. 1200 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,760 I broke my arm and doctor gave me, you know, pain medication. 1201 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,040 I'm like, I'd much rather just go to dragonfly and get a 1202 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,400 chewable tablet. That's, you know, it's way 1203 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,800 easier, right? And those guys are actually nice 1204 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,760 and they care. It's way funner than going to a 1205 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,400 pharmacy at Walgreens or Smiths. Which? 1206 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,560 Is this is a funny story, right? Like, that's an interesting 1207 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,600 story as well as like, how easy it is right now to just get 1208 01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,400 access to prescriptions, right? Like my little brother broke his 1209 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,080 elbow. You know, he was, he slipped 1210 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,240 outside of my parents' house after he got done shoveling. 1211 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,400 There's just walking broken. Anyways, I'm, I, I had to go 1212 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,920 pick up his prescription for him, right? 1213 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,120 And I just this piece of paper, you know, that's says, you know 1214 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,000 what? Hydrocodone. 1215 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,720 All right, cool. Walk up. 1216 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,320 And they're like, OK, do you have ID? 1217 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,200 I'm like, yeah, here's my driver's license. 1218 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,120 OK, we'll call you when it's ready. 1219 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:29,040 I was like, all right, that's. It the interesting thing is you 1220 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,720 were saying, so Utah doesn't allow you to do that with 1221 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,720 cannabis. But with even that, you could 1222 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,680 have like a care, like a qualifying care provider for you 1223 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,920 and they'd still have to go through all these crazy hoops. 1224 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,680 But yet even with that, you don't have to be their care 1225 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,840 provider to pick up their prescription. 1226 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,080 You could literally be just anyone going, hey, I'm here to 1227 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,360 pick up this prescription. Here's their date of birth. 1228 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,480 Here's my ID. You don't have to have any 1229 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,160 association. Was in relation to the person at 1230 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,520 all at all and and I had an ID and I'm Asian she I was could 1231 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:03,440 have. Used you could have been their 1232 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,640 Uber driver showing up. Asian dude, yeah, that looks 1233 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,600 like you go. Ahead because they're like, oh, 1234 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,560 I can't tell the difference anyway because they're like. 1235 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,880 They're terrible. But then, yeah, so this, this 1236 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,200 was sort of funny. And then, yeah, as I'm waiting 1237 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,920 for the prescription, right, they they're about to hand to 1238 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,480 me, they're like, OK, that'll be $7.00. 1239 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,240 I was like, OK, $7.00, get the prescription. 1240 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,400 And then I was about to walk away thinking like, Oh my God, 1241 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,960 did I just, I feel like I had to do something. 1242 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,680 She's like, oh, hold on real quick, the pharmacist needs to 1243 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,200 talk to you. I was like, OK, so I stand there 1244 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,440 and then this old Chinese guy comes out of the back pharmacist 1245 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:47,040 dude, because I was like, so these only use these if you have 1246 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,520 to, OK, Because they're, they can be addictive. 1247 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,520 All right, all right. Wow, look. 1248 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,040 That was it. That was the disclaimer, you 1249 01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,040 know, so at least he was trying. At least he was like, I 1250 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,080 appreciate that, right? But that was it, man. 1251 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,800 If it was in the cannabis space here for you to be a caregiver, 1252 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,640 the first thing you got to do is you got to apply and then you 1253 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,040 have to get a criminal background check, right, to make 1254 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,920 sure you're not some drug dealer. 1255 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,760 But what's funny? Like why? 1256 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,640 Like what if you don't have a criminal background? 1257 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,320 Or what if you don't have anything on there? 1258 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,960 Say there's nothing drug related. 1259 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,280 Do they decline it still? Or does that even play a factor 1260 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,360 in it? Because you could still be their 1261 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,640 patient, like their caregiver. So who else is supposed to pick 1262 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,760 up that patient's medicine? Yeah. 1263 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,960 So there are just these things because of the federally 1264 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,600 illegality of it, right. So that that's where sometimes 1265 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,520 it's it, it, it's, it's frustrating as you know, an, an, 1266 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,520 an operator in the business to be like. 1267 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,080 Do you know anyone buying Utah products does turn around and 1268 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,360 sell them? Because no offense I don't think 1269 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:58,560 anyone outside is paying from their plug 50-60 dollars an 1270 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,520 eighth plus adding on a margin of markup. 1271 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,640 Like who would ever buy a Utah product to turn around and go, 1272 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,800 hey, I'm going to sell this to make? 1273 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,680 Money. It's treated like medicine. 1274 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,640 That's yours. What if you didn't have a 1275 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,120 qualifying condition and you wanted safe legal product and 1276 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,080 you couldn't buy it? Yeah, it's hard. 1277 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,200 What would you be willing to pay? 1278 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,760 So your answer is yes, there are people that are doing it right 1279 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,320 now. Right now, and you know, 1280 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,720 imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. 1281 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,280 So yeah, we've actually had issues where people were passing 1282 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,640 off Dragonfly product, as you know, or packaging and things 1283 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,520 like that, right. But. 1284 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,680 Oh, they're trying to mimic Dragonfly products. 1285 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,440 Right, so that that's that's. Cool. 1286 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,640 Flattery, right? To the point where we had to get 1287 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,560 investigated to see if, like, whoa. 1288 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,560 Is this your? Product really happening, right? 1289 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:47,840 Because then, yeah, they do due diligence. 1290 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,800 People make reports. You gotta check and make sure 1291 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,760 that's legit. But yeah, and we're like, no, 1292 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,760 like we one we don't even use those jars. 1293 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,400 We don't do these all these yeah, but it's like those are 1294 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,720 things that are happening because people don't have 1295 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,920 access. People are always going to get 1296 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,960 what they wanna get. Doesn't matter, right? 1297 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:13,160 But at least here in the state of Utah, if we've got operators 1298 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,360 here that are going good quality medicine and we know that these 1299 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,280 are accurate results and we know that all of these products are 1300 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,360 full panel tested, that they are free of pesticides, free of 1301 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:28,840 heavy metals, free of solvents, right, All of these things and 1302 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,320 you can put that into your body. Why wouldn't we want people to 1303 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,600 have access to that versus what you're getting on this straight 1304 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,320 that could sometimes potentially be laced with fentanyl? 1305 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,280 They're not just. Making this up, this is a thing, 1306 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,120 right? Like this happens, you get, 1307 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,240 there are ER report visits of this happening in our own 1308 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,360 communities. So we again, have the tools at 1309 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,840 our fingertips to solve some of our biggest problems in our 1310 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,680 community, whether it's mental health, whether it's suicide, 1311 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,960 whether it's addiction, right? All of these things and the keys 1312 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,800 are right here. And we just need people to wake 1313 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,960 up and realize at what we've been told our whole life. 1314 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,960 I think that's really hard. I mean, especially like we live 1315 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,359 in a religious culture here. Looking at any of those things, 1316 01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:22,279 people often times don't want to question anything or look at 1317 01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:24,880 something and go like, hey, there's maybe some basis that 1318 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,880 might not be someone maybe lied to me. 1319 01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:31,200 That's hard, especially if it's on a religious governmental like 1320 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,160 my parents, whoever it is someone that you are supposed to 1321 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,520 look up to or trust in that Ave. It's hard to go, hey there, they 1322 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:43,040 lied to me and how many people even want to look at that in 1323 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,960 question and go like, oh, did I was I lied to or is it just like 1324 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,160 all these stupid hippies, you know? 1325 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,319 And then what gets pushed out? Well, like you said, there's 1326 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,840 IHCE that puts out, well, we've had this much reduction in 1327 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,680 opioids and we credit it to education and this and this. 1328 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,319 And it's like, but the time frame is exactly when the 1329 01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:07,240 medical cannabis program came into play. 1330 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:11,520 And you know, you can see statistical data of looking at 1331 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,760 oh, these people had these prescriptions. 1332 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,080 Oh, look, and these people have these medical cards like it just 1333 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,560 it's simple correlation of you can. 1334 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,160 Willing to speak on the cost part too, you know, if you're in 1335 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,560 Utah and you're like, you know, I want to get a medical cannabis 1336 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,200 card, but I don't want to pay those fees though that might. 1337 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,600 And if you're a person who's getting in the car driving to 1338 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,279 Colorado or to Nevada, think about the cost that goes into 1339 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:42,279 that and how much it's going to cost you to just drive there, 1340 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:47,840 get the product, come back. It's way more investment time 1341 01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:50,359 instead of being able to get your medical card. 1342 01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:54,800 So if you have chronic pain, you can check out being able to get 1343 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,720 that and look at all the other defining characteristics of what 1344 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:02,160 qualifies for that. But honestly, it is worth it to 1345 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:06,160 be able to get that card. And especially any other time 1346 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,760 it'd be right now, right now where things are starting to 1347 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,400 change even more. We'll start seeing a difference 1348 01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:15,280 out there. Maybe this allows us to have 1349 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,680 more licenses here for pharmacies. 1350 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,160 And if we have more pharmacies, we have more consumers and we 1351 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,880 have less likeability of that rebound effect where people are 1352 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,560 like, you know, it's not for me. And that's where like, you know, 1353 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,200 our podcast comes into there that you're gonna learn a lot on 1354 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,240 how to consume this and and how you're not gonna have a horrible 1355 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,880 experience. Like, you know, I mean recently 1356 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,240 somebody you know. My my brother is bad. 1357 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,320 I was gonna wait. Yeah, this is. 1358 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,040 This is. He's been, oh, he's just left 1359 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,360 the like local faith here handful of years ago and for him 1360 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,600 he's been straight laced his entire life. 1361 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,040 He still is like. Very much so. 1362 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,120 Straight edge doesn't do caffeine, doesn't do anything. 1363 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,720 He doesn't like feeling out of control at all. 1364 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,240 And so he was talking about, he was like, you know, I'd like to 1365 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,080 try it at least once, see what it was like. 1366 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,160 And I've got a cousin who also consumes. 1367 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,920 And she was like, well, let's, let's have a session at my 1368 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,040 house. So he'd go over there and she's 1369 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:24,320 got the large version of George Jetson, our bong. 1370 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:30,520 It's a big ass bong. It is so she decides that I 1371 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,640 brought all of my flour. I let him Mel between like 10-12 1372 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,720 different flowers and he picked one out and he was like, all 1373 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:41,240 right, let's try this one. And he ended up taking this big 1374 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:48,360 hit and he really did not like it in the in the slightest 1375 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:54,400 because within 1015 minutes, he was asking, how do I get this to 1376 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,280 stop in 10 minutes? And I was like, we can't, but we 1377 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,560 can give you lemon juice. I brought CBD like, we're gonna 1378 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,360 do all of this. And then he's still like, he 1379 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,360 didn't like that he felt he wasn't in control. 1380 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,720 I think it's because he's so much in control of everything 1381 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,160 that he wanted. He maybe he wanted that 1382 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,120 experience and maybe he got that experience and he didn't. 1383 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,760 Where you don't care like you really don't sweat. 1384 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,040 'Cause that's what he was like, oh man, I don't know how you 1385 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,760 could, how you could work on this. 1386 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,000 He was like, I can't do complex math problems right now. 1387 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,000 And I'm like bro, you don't need to be doing complex math. 1388 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,040 Problems. Right now, complex math problems 1389 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,400 anyway. It's like, it's like Friday 1390 01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:44,040 night, just chill out. Like there's nothing you need to 1391 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,920 be doing. The whole intent of hanging out 1392 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,200 here was we're just gonna have a good time and just chill. 1393 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,080 So you don't need to be worrying about can I do complex math 1394 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,960 problems or this or that. What you need to do is just 1395 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,800 relax. But again, it's really hard. 1396 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,280 Like how many people are stuck up here that it's so hard to 1397 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,600 come out of here and just relax. That's why we have anxiety and 1398 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,560 depression and all this stuff that we live in, because we're 1399 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,240 not like we're always living up here. 1400 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,840 Control that's, that's a, a huge thing. 1401 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,120 And quite honestly, that first time I ever tried it wasn't, it 1402 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,480 was the same type of thing. It was like I was not in control 1403 01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:21,600 of what was happening around me and what I was seeing. 1404 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,920 I was like, yeah, you when you first feel that moment, right, 1405 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,280 you're like, Oh my gosh, there is something else that is 1406 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,720 actually controlling me, not the other way around. 1407 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,120 And this idea that we can control things in our life, it's 1408 01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:37,120 just a fallacy. It's just a fallacy. 1409 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,520 So we spend our time thinking about things that are never 1410 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,480 going to happen because we want to make sure we can control 1411 01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:45,600 those things, right? Or we worry about things that 1412 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,320 happened in the. Past and you can't change. 1413 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,520 Just so hard for us to stay present in this world, right in 1414 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,480 the society that that we have, right? 1415 01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:56,400 And it's just, and, and I, I sometimes I don't think people 1416 01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,160 stop to recognize and realize how much has actually changed in 1417 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,720 our world in just the last 10 to 15 years with the advent of, you 1418 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,000 know, the phone. And not just the phone, but the 1419 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,360 phone from going to a touchscreen phone and to the 1420 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,920 iPhone and getting fast speed Internet and going on from those 1421 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,400 phases. Like there's a reason why mental 1422 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,240 health is at all time high here, right? 1423 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,320 And a lot of it has a strong correlation with when the phone 1424 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,840 and how much. That is an important part, an 1425 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:30,280 important part of our worth of who we are, who we think we're 1426 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,640 supposed to be. And we get so caught up in that 1427 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,160 cycle, right? And why is mental health a 1428 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,800 problem? We're trying to be all these 1429 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,000 things that all these other people that are just living fake 1430 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,640 lives. Are doing and we're trying to 1431 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,520 keep up with the Joneses and be like, oh, I'm just like them. 1432 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,240 Or you worry about other shit, like, I mean, you know, I, I get 1433 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:58,160 into conspiracy theories or into deep science and stuff like 1434 01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,760 that. And if you knew the shit that's 1435 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,760 going on with the planet and you're realizing that some of 1436 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,280 this isn't because of The Dirty air, you're like, oh shit, some 1437 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,800 crazy stuff. It, you know, like the stuff we. 1438 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,760 Used to consume like it was so makes you feel anxious. 1439 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,480 Yeah, it makes you feel like you got to get in a. 1440 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,360 You got to get in a. Bunker you got to get a. 1441 01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:23,760 Bunker, you know, we're in a good place actually, if we look 1442 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,440 at the models and stuff like that, like if anything happened, 1443 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:29,720 we're in a good place. But even then, though, it's like 1444 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:36,440 we shouldn't have total access to that information in a moment. 1445 01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:41,800 It's an overload. Your body gets hit so much that 1446 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,560 you just can't stop wearing. I go through my YouTube feed. 1447 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:51,400 It is natural disasters, cataclysms, fucking, you know, 1448 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,200 mushrooms and like cannabis stuff. 1449 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,680 Like it's just, it's the sprinkles of happiness with tons 1450 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,440 of fucking negativity and it's so hard. 1451 01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:05,920 And but one of the great things that cannabis does for you, like 1452 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,120 I was telling you just a little while ago, you know, since I've 1453 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,560 been going back, I don't have to use as much to what you were 1454 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,640 talking about. What, you know, you use just a 1455 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,560 third of it, just using a tiny bit and you're still going to 1456 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:21,040 get a great effect. But I got done smoking, came 1457 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:25,000 back inside and I just played with my kids. 1458 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:30,320 I just had these like awesome conversations with my son about 1459 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,880 like the Renaissance and the French Revolution, 'cause he's 1460 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,600 playing Assassin's Creed Unity and it's during the French 1461 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,000 Revolution and we just got deep into the history of that. 1462 01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:46,240 And it was so cool because I don't, my mind is going so fast 1463 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,720 all the time in the world we're in and I don't get to slow down 1464 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,640 and just enjoy the presence of others. 1465 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,120 But with the gift of cannabis, I absolutely do. 1466 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,720 Like I can just chill out and have a conversation. 1467 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,800 Yeah, it's like, you know, we, we are prisoners of our 1468 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,480 thoughts, right? And and the cannabis is the 1469 01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:08,720 Liberator. Yeah, for sure. 1470 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,680 Like. Because you can, you can just 1471 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:15,840 stop all the things, right? And nothing matters except right 1472 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,680 now, right here, right? And those are the things when 1473 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,760 you talk about mental health awareness, right? 1474 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,360 And those abilities to one, even have people in your life that 1475 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,360 you can share these conversations with, right? 1476 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,960 And feel connected to people and not feel alone, all right? 1477 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,560 How we live in a world with 7 billion people, How can one 1478 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,800 person feel alone? That's sad to think about, 1479 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,920 right? Yeah, we get so many of us here. 1480 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,720 Especially in this world where you can connect with anybody 1481 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,360 anywhere in the world but you. Know we still feel distant. 1482 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,480 Still have this difficulty talking about real stuff, right? 1483 01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:53,800 Real stuff that hurts us, right? Real pain because we're ashamed 1484 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,520 that people look down on us and they have these perfect lives. 1485 01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:02,240 And I'm sad here, but everybody's life sucks, man, 1486 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,240 Come on. Yeah, we were just talking about 1487 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,240 that earlier, right? Everybody's you're going to have 1488 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:12,400 to experience pleasure and pain and one can't exist without the 1489 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,880 other. And it's not always continuous. 1490 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,560 It's not always going to be continuous. 1491 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,160 And that's where, you know, you get that reprieve when you get 1492 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:23,200 to puff because it it really takes it like in perspective, 1493 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,120 you just kind of back up, right, get too angry. 1494 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:30,320 I mean, how many, how many arguments has cannabis kept me 1495 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,400 from? I know it's kept me from endless 1496 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,720 like so many of them that I'm like, I need to go smoke and I 1497 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,040 will step outside and I will go puff on something and you know, 1498 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,560 sometimes it's 5 minutes, sometimes it's 20 minutes and 1499 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,480 then I come back in. I'm like way more level headed 1500 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,320 and usually I'm apologetic of like, hey, I'm sorry I was 1501 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,200 frustrated. And that wasn't like, let's have 1502 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,720 a normal discussion. Let's try and approach this and 1503 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,720 figure this out. Because when you can step away 1504 01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,440 from the emotion that's attached to it, you can see things for 1505 01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:02,800 what they are. And usually it's not as big of 1506 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,520 an issue as we're feeling it is. And it's like you don't have 1507 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,280 this backpack full of rocks on your back. 1508 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,200 You can actually take it off and go, hey, shit, no, everything's 1509 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,600 actually OK. We just need to like, be right 1510 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,120 here. Yeah, we've had our, we, we, we 1511 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,440 were actually talking. We had it. 1512 01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:23,840 We had an argument at one time. And I mean, we rarely do have an 1513 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,040 argument, but it was just weird. And, and that goes to say too, 1514 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,160 that remember that cannabis, there's so many different 1515 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,600 strains. So there's and it's so much 1516 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,720 safer than being able to go on a medication. 1517 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,440 They go, OK, in about four to six weeks you're going to start 1518 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:40,680 feeling it like, holy shit, wait a minute, I need it now and 40. 1519 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,400 Six weeks before you start feeling normal. 1520 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,440 Yeah, when you get off of it, right, and it's like, OK, well, 1521 01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:48,880 you've got to kind of have this toss up, but you literally can 1522 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,960 switch from one to another. So, I mean, our listeners know 1523 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,840 that, like, use lemon juice, use lemon juice to be able to kind 1524 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,800 of dull it down where you're just like, oh, I don't want this 1525 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,280 riot to go on anymore. Cool, get off it and then go try 1526 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,200 a different one. Don't get afraid of it because 1527 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,360 it's something that you just have to figure out what's right 1528 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,280 for your system. Like right now. 1529 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,280 The first time I smoked this strain, dude, it, it's got me 1530 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,720 the same way. It was like when we were talking 1531 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,680 to. Was it Desiree? 1532 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,000 Yeah, it does. Yeah. 1533 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,680 Yeah. We were talking to Des and she 1534 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,560 was like really intense. And I'm just sitting there 1535 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,280 going. Fuck this. 1536 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,120 This is a really intense conversation. 1537 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:29,120 That was that was really high and I was just like, oh, I felt 1538 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,520 so good. And it's still even now like it 1539 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,240 is almost for for a sativa strain dude, like. 1540 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,560 I'm feeling pretty good. Oh, man. 1541 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:38,920 My boy. Yeah. 1542 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,960 I was playing basketball this morning and I strained my calf 1543 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,880 right. I like a bandage. 1544 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,000 I got dragon bomb on it. You know, I'm like old man up 1545 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,440 over here. I feel you guys didn't smell 1546 01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:50,840 something. No, I didn't lip this and 1547 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,040 menthol. What is? 1548 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,000 No bro, I've been you missed. Oh my cane. 1549 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,800 I've been walking with a cane for like 3 weeks. 1550 01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,240 But. So I know. 1551 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,560 Nothing right now, right? I can't like almost limping, 1552 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,880 right? So but just these little things, 1553 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,680 right? And and you learn about the plan 1554 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,200 and learn that it has anti-inflammatory properties, 1555 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,160 right, antifungal properties, antiviral properties and you're 1556 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,440 like, wait, it's a analgesic effect as well too. 1557 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,080 Hold on. I I think I kind of want some. 1558 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,760 Yeah, I tried that. But yeah, it has all that, you 1559 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,040 know, it has all these anecdotal evidences that it provides all 1560 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,560 these reliefs, right? Oh hey, you know it's been shown 1561 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,560 to shrink cancer cells or tumor cells in rats. 1562 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,400 But it's only anecdotal because there's not like clinical 1563 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,040 studies behind it. But yet it Yeah. 1564 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,360 But if you actually look and took every person who uses 1565 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,880 cannabis and they submitted their data, I bet you would see 1566 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,480 that that anecdotal evidence would be showing across the 1567 01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:52,360 board of like, oh, wait, no, it helps here, here, here, here, 1568 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,160 here, here. The only difference is it's not 1569 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,080 funded by the government or a massive corporation. 1570 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,200 It's just individual human studies of. 1571 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,920 Doesn't have that FDA CLA approval, which man that that 1572 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,520 credibility's just kind of I. Trust them so much. 1573 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,760 Sounds like having a name brand tag on your clothes. 1574 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,280 I just feel like it's like having ABBB accreditation, you 1575 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,520 know? It's like, hey, I paid for that. 1576 01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:20,360 But you know what? I think people are waking up, 1577 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:21,240 right? Totally. 1578 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,880 Yeah. Waking up and realizing that 1579 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,640 there there's a lot more to the world than you know what we've 1580 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,560 been told. And that is the flip side of 1581 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,960 access to information right now. You don't have to just listen to 1582 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,400 one narrative that's on your TV from the news anchor or from the 1583 01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,560 one writer in the newspaper. And that's your world. 1584 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,960 Growing up in Utah, I didn't know anything outside of this 1585 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,840 world who was reporting on what was happening in China, right? 1586 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,560 And what was going on in other countries. 1587 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,240 Like I no, didn't know whatever was in my encyclopedia. 1588 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,040 That was my view of the world, right? 1589 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,560 So now flash forward, boom. Like it is just completely 1590 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,440 different. And we've got to stop and one, 1591 01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:06,840 give ourselves some grace to realize like, Dang, man, that 1592 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,680 really is different. And you start to feel like I 1593 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,440 don't sound like an old head right now, right? 1594 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,520 Yeah, dude, for sure. Changed that drastically. 1595 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,480 It really, really has right And, and I think COVID certainly, you 1596 01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:21,000 know, forced us to rethink and re evaluate and sit with 1597 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,680 ourselves a little bit more. And for some they came out 1598 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,640 really clear. For others, maybe, maybe it was 1599 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,240 not such a good thing, right? But I think those are the 1600 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,520 opportunities where we have to really help provide one of the 1601 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,040 solutions towards our problems towards mental health, because 1602 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:43,040 it is a trending problem, right? And there are now enough data 1603 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,200 and studies out there that show the direct correlation and the 1604 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,400 impact that the sooner you give a child access to a phone, a 1605 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:55,000 tablet, right, that connection to, to, to social media more 1606 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,600 likely than have mental health issues. 1607 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,720 It's a correlation, right? That the correlation does not 1608 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,800 always mean causation, but put connect the dots together. 1609 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,160 You know. Plenty. 1610 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,880 I mean we are all guilty of it ourselves and getting sucked 1611 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,240 into the hole. And just like how do how did I 1612 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:15,880 get? Why am I worrying about? 1613 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,440 This. But how did I spend this much 1614 01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:21,040 time? Like I just was taking a poop 1615 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,920 and now it's been like 45 minutes. 1616 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,920 Wife's knocking on. The door, We're doing it there. 1617 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,640 Oh. Oh oh sugar honey OST Oh I 1618 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,920 don't. Know I I can also get there when 1619 01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,640 I'm pretty high though. I mean I can sit down just like 1620 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,960 and then when my leg goes numb I'm like, oh wait, how long have 1621 01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,520 I been in here? Why am I down this rabbit hole? 1622 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:43,480 But it's seriously it's it's a great uniter and it's a great 1623 01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:46,680 way to be able to slow down and just enjoy the world as it is. 1624 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,400 Like that's there's a reason why I like hardcore hippies or pie 1625 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:55,280 heads because they don't want to deal with the the this busyness 1626 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,480 unnecessary. They want to disconnect from the 1627 01:24:57,480 --> 01:24:59,680 matrix. Yeah, totally. 1628 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,320 And I, and I mean just like you, man. 1629 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,920 I, I like, I like being plugged into the matrix. 1630 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,640 I like the intricacies of our society and our culture and the 1631 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,960 world as it is in a technological age. 1632 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,640 But at the same time, I like to take a break too. 1633 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,640 And I want to take a break often. 1634 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,760 I don't want to ever want to be plugged in 100% of the time. 1635 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,040 And I feel for those who feel like they have to be and that 1636 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,800 they have no outlet and that there is no change. 1637 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:29,600 So yeah, man, this is. It's been awesome. 1638 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,480 This has been great man. Thank you so much for being able 1639 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:38,640 to come on the show, share a lot about you and why you're so 1640 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:46,040 passionate about the medical cannabis state that we are in 1641 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,880 and why you're you're so passionate about being able to 1642 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:53,320 bring this to so many different patients right now in our state. 1643 01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,880 Where should we be going to look up more about you, man? 1644 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,560 Can people connect with you? Yeah, absolutely. 1645 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,680 You know, go to Dragonfly Wellness, you can learn more 1646 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,960 about just our medical cannabis program in general. 1647 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,960 Our state has plenty of incredible resources. 1648 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,600 Go to medicalcannabis.utah.gov. Like we have a really, really 1649 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,760 great program here, but we just need people to participate in 1650 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,760 the program as opposed to just, I can get it elsewhere, I can 1651 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,000 get the same thing. It it really isn't the same 1652 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,040 thing. No, it's not. 1653 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,840 It really isn't. And we've been really impressed 1654 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:29,600 because the difference in like quality and experience has been 1655 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,480 fantastic. The CBG strain alone, there's 1656 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,720 not been anything like that. Nope, I've never experienced 1657 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,800 anything like that. And you know, dare I say, you 1658 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,840 know, even for being a desert strain, this stays really close 1659 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,640 to Cali strain, dude. You wouldn't even know if you 1660 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,120 walked in the facility. Where you were. 1661 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,640 Right. So at the end of the day, you 1662 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,680 know our, our, our, some of our team comes from California, 1663 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:55,200 right? Like. 1664 01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:56,800 They've yeah, that's right. For a long. 1665 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,880 Time we didn't just pluck people out, you know, like we didn't 1666 01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,920 just have a bunch of Vietnamese people in the backroom like a 1667 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,920 sweatshirt abyss. We found people that were real 1668 01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,960 professionals that came out that have been doing this for a long 1669 01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:09,680 time. And if you've been doing it for 1670 01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,160 a long time, you have a care and a passion for the plant because 1671 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,560 you're willing to do something for nobody wanted to give you 1672 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,080 credit. I waited until it was legal and 1673 01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,080 I could go to my family and not be shamed by them, but still got 1674 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,080 shame 'cause that's just how Asian families roll like you. 1675 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,720 What, you're gonna give up your 20 year career working with 1676 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,880 Fortune 500 companies to sell weed? 1677 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,160 That's wrong with you. It's a. 1678 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,680 Really good opportunity to make change in our community, Mom. 1679 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,960 Yeah, right. So, but it's crazy in that 180 1680 01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,840 flip, like my parents are huge supporters, right? 1681 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,280 I mean, they talk to our families about it. 1682 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,880 They're very proud about what we're doing here. 1683 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,640 So that alone, right when we worry about the judgement and 1684 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,440 the stigma of others, it's pretty crazy. 1685 01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:57,480 When I bet that's a future authentic. 1686 01:27:57,480 --> 01:28:03,080 Self and not have to tiptoe around my parents lie and hide 1687 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,280 and stuff and there's so many people who have to struggle 1688 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:10,880 through that and those are challenges, right And and for us 1689 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,240 that'd be able to have a platform and a voice and a 1690 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,400 platform to show that look, we can talk about these things and 1691 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,120 there are other solutions to these things, right? 1692 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,440 Not just to the same medications you're taking over and over and 1693 01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:24,400 over just because your doctor said it right? 1694 01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,720 And again, cannabis isn't for everybody. 1695 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,480 It's not totally. Yeah, but you should be able to 1696 01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:32,080 have access to try it just like all these other drugs that are 1697 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,080 out there. Yeah, man, no. 1698 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,160 And thank you for the example you set being open about it. 1699 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,200 You know, we, we do that. We encourage everybody else to 1700 01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,560 do it. So they're not only their 1701 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:48,600 friends and family wherever, but the the areas that they live, 1702 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,120 their neighborhoods, their society. 1703 01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:52,080 Like you shouldn't treat it as a stigma. 1704 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,440 We don't. We, we, we're loud and proud and 1705 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,680 we never get, I have never been like, oh, I'm not talking to 1706 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,080 you. Yeah, it's cannabis. 1707 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,440 It's usually just sparked more conversations and they go. 1708 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,480 I want to learn more about it so it really helps, but man, thank 1709 01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:11,960 you for being that example here. Thank you for being on the show 1710 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,920 and and thanks for all your hospitality and showing us 1711 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:19,000 everything that you guys do and why we love you guys so much. 1712 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,880 It's an honor, guys. Thank you for help and support 1713 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,840 our mission towards normalizing this right, so that way we can 1714 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,000 all just be healthy, happy people, live in one community, 1715 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,120 not judging each other. And thank you guys for allowing 1716 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,280 me into your home and into your studio. 1717 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,480 Rather, I'm pretty sure we're going to have you back on for 1718 01:29:37,480 --> 01:29:38,800 another episode. Oh hell yeah dude. 1719 01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,480 So sick of me man. You know. 1720 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,200 No way man, I want. To go meet George Jetson. 1721 01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,200 So yeah, yeah, for sure. And to everyone at home, we love 1722 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,800 you guys. Thanks for tuning in. 1723 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,240 Yeah, Patreon supporters, we absolutely love you. 1724 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,640 And TuneIn Next week for another episode of the Session.