Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles.
And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you
about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape flower
edibles. Strains.
And everything in between. Hey, today we have a special
guest. Oh, and it's white fire.
Oh, I was thinking it was the bong.
Or maybe my like home roasted coffee.
Yeah, Brandon actually home roast all of his own coffee.
Recently, yeah. Yeah, and the and the taste is
delicious. It's probably it's gonna be
really difficult for you to have it from other places with you
not being more judgmental on it. Oh, I've always been judgmental
with other people's coffee, but now I feel it's gonna be a lot
worse. Like Starbucks already before
for me was like someone shitting in a cup and I'm.
Like, yeah, I I I feel when I used to drink coffee all the
time and I don't drink coffee anymore due to religious
reasons. Just kidding.
Yeah. No, I I don't drink coffee
anymore. I actually found out that I
burned out my adrenal glands and the fact that I can even get
enough energy to be able to go to the gym, boggle their minds.
But after labs, they're like, well, maybe you corrected them.
Because I have I I have abstained from using coffee
almost for three years now, bro. Jesus.
Yeah, it's easy. It's crazy.
It's been that long. It's been a long time.
I won't even put it to my lips because I know what happened to
me, but it's because I abused it.
But the great thing about cannabis is that if you have too
much, guess what happens? You go to sleep.
Yeah, or you get really fucking anxious.
Or paranoid. Or like all of those.
I feel like, well, the very first time that my girlfriend
had an edible with me. Oh yeah.
I didn't make it, and it was, and it was by someone who I
trusted. They're dosing until they.
Just. Follow the dosing.
No, it wasn't it. Was they?
Misdosed, 'cause they asked me, They're like, hey, what is their
dose? And I I broke it down and I was
like, oh, she is at like .2 of a gram of flour.
So when you're dosing it out, like weighing out .2 is really
simple to do. He just didn't do that.
And he was like, Oh yeah, I just thought she was at a gram.
So I gave her a gram and I was like, no, what?
But he told me after when she was already panicking, freaking
out all of that. Because before, when he was
asking me dosing of edibles, I gave him her dose.
I was like, she's incredibly light tolerant.
So start here. And I was so, so pissed at him
that night. But you know these these
mistakes do happen and and that's where the problem is with
any any kind of home home brew I would say on that because it's
it's sometimes you can be really on the money I mean you're very
meticulous with it but before we go into that let's let's go into
what we're introducing today. So white fire comes from pure
plan it is grown here in Utah. This is a fantastic I, I I got
this strain, I picked it up from the dispo and dude I am blown
away. I'm excited.
Those nugs looked really tricone covered.
They're really dark. They are no the plant itself.
When you look at it, it's black. Oh dude, the leaves are black.
They're amazing. We.
Were able to fortunate enough to go to one of the biggest grows
here in Utah. Actually probably the biggest
grow in Utah. I I don't know but I.
Would guess it's probably the best, most developed grow
because they do it exactly the way that we wanted to when I
started that company when we invested in the grow years ago.
But they have it on like a scale that I wanted to get to.
Millions of dollars were put into this facility and you.
The cool thing is it's out in the middle of nowhere and you
would miss it. You would think it was like some
chicken farm, which is crazy 'cause.
It used to be, yeah. You see a.
Turkey farm. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But with this fire. This fire.
Yeah, white fire it it. What is the What's the lineage
on this? I'm not sure.
Hold on. Look, I actually thought I I
found it. The lineage on OG is.
I mean, I could look it up. I just was so excited to start
smoking it. It's made from fire, OG, and the
white. Yeah.
And it's the white and it's also known as Wi-Fi OG Wi-Fi white
Fire or Wi-Fi Kush. It's a hybrid strain, but it's
very sativa leaning. It's got a very, very clean
smooth pole like you taste it. It's very mild.
It's extremely mild. Oh.
I took the other lighter. Don't be that one.
Don't take the lighter. Nah, that's OK.
It's OK. It's all good.
You ever have that friend who walks away with all your
lighters and then you you go and you're like.
That was me. Well, that's why you always have
like a bowl of lighters, so there's, you know, endless to go
around. That first hit was so mild, very
smooth. Super smooth.
I didn't get a lot of like lemonade or that could have
flavors with it there. This is known for like fruit,
citrusy kind of things with warm spicy tones.
I didn't get a lot of mine. Mine was a very small hit.
Wow, that that actually made me cough.
This is the first time this made me cough.
I It's really good though. It's very heady, but it's not
overwhelmingly heady. Now.
Again, I haven't hit it with the Jet.
I think we should just call this the Jet.
Yeah, why the hell not? The jet, because it mean, one,
it gets into you really fast. Two, it sounds like a jet
engine. You know, it's really cool too.
George Jetson. George Jetson.
Let's call it the Jetson. The jetson the.
Jetson. No, it was nice.
I just pictured like the Jetsons in my mind.
And I was like, oh, who's the husband on that?
Who's the dad? So he looked it up and he's
like, beat George Jetson. George Jensen, Me, George
Jetson. Exactly.
Oh man. Like that in The Flintstones.
His wife. Oh shit, I forgot the.
His boy, Elroy. Yeah.
I don't know.
I haven't seen this, Elroy. Or was Elroy the dog, I thought?
It was. The kid Anyways, see us going
off on this so white fire like you said.
When you see the plant and you look it up, it's black.
It's like the coolest thing. It's the coolest looking flower
and leaves I've ever seen. Like for me it was cool.
It's the Batman. Strange.
It was like black. These flowers were almost black.
You put it in this episode so you can see it, but it was
amazing. I was blown away because at
first I was like, wait, is that the lighting?
No, it's literally just, well, the.
Lights were so bright in there, these LED lights.
I mean the amount of money that they put in and you know, you
could be a cultivar, listen to and going bitch, I got those
too. But you know here in Utah, you
the idea of really good flower being grown here is not
something that would come to your mind.
Not at all. And because it's typically been
West Coast, it's typically been other places, not Utah.
Utah's a desert. It's not known for, like,
produce. Dude, there's never like, oh
man, you guys got to try Utah's wives.
Like, what? What is that?
Exactly. Polygamy Porter.
Exactly what are we? I've tried polygamy.
Have you? Have you?
Yeah, exactly. You know, I actually got this
shirt. It says polygamy Porter.
And well, I just have one. It's a micro brew here in Utah.
Wasatch Brew. If you're ever in Park City, go
visit them. I it's been years since I've
drank their beer, 'cause I don't.
I don't use alcohol at all, not because of anything other than
religious reasons. I don't do it because it just
doesn't do well with me. Yeah, I was like my health.
Diabetes. It's just I feel like that it.
It's everything. I think after the age of 35, you
just feel like shit every time you drink, and it just gets more
and more worse as you get older. I think my last beer was when I
was 38. Damn.
I'm I'm 45 now, so. It's been a minute.
It is been a minute, but I was there, I had some food with my
dad and we got these shirts and I wanted to wear them here and
go check them out. But Oh my God, like this strain
is so relaxing. It's.
Straight to my head. But the cool thing, it's like
it's in my chest too, but it's light.
It's like a weighted blanket type feel and the the terpenes
in there. Oh, it's pretty good.
It's got betacerophiline, limonene, beta, mirocene,
humuline and lentil in this one. Like it.
It's got a pretty wide range of that.
That's what I do like. I know every every strain in
every state has terpenes. Every strain has cannabinoids.
But the thing I do love is Utah's focus isn't always the
highest potency. And that's the misnomer that
people feel that if they get like you have.
To get the highest THC, to get the best high or the most high.
Well, and usually it's that Stony person that's coming up
there because all they want is just to be, but that's a.
Bunch of shit it is. And if you understand it and how
to have your experience, the highest THC doesn't even get you
the most high. It's your terpenes.
And the cannabinoid profile, like it's all of that entourage
effect combined, like it's everything in that.
And if you have more of an isolated one, all you're going
to end up with is a more isolated effect.
And with that high THC, the high isolated effect, people more
commonly get anxiety. Yeah, and it's the flavor
profile. Sometimes I've had these high
concentrate flowers. They taste like dog shit.
They taste like hemp but they're so like and and when I say that
it's like it's hemp is such a strong flavor in cannabis that
it's overwhelming is overwhelming and it's not great.
The only one like Stony Branch farms their blueberry waffle.
Oh my delicious. It was great and it and if
you're like if you're a can of sewer and you're like I want to
try a bunch of different strains that's really good to kind of
have it you're. Looking at CBD flower hand down
try check them out like they have amazing and it didn't taste
like hemp. Tastes like blueberries and A
and a waffle. Really impressed with collie
shit. Almost a sweetness to it.
Amazing quality, great work, love their product.
Well and and Speaking of sweetness now this one has a
very unique flavor profile. The the way it tastes depending
on where it's coming from. Now when you have like The Jets
in here, awesome, awesome name by the way, that was a great
idea. We came up with that.
But the when you're able to pull it out of a bong such as this, a
high caliber, high quality bong, that's really going to filter
out. You're not going to get the
sharp notes that I got through my MJ Arsenal Mini bubbler.
That thing, that bubbler dude. I've never, I've never enjoyed a
bubbler the way I've I've enjoyed that MJ Arsenal.
We'll put that down there in the comments.
It's super affordable. I really like bubblers.
And I really like MJ Arsenal. Has really cheap, affordable
pricing. Yeah, we need to talk to MJ
Arsenal. We need to get more of their
products on the show, showcase those.
It's really hard now. We just got to tell you guys,
you already know if you've been a long time follower of the show
and as of recently for the last several months we've got we
we've been doing a lot of flour on the show and the reason why
honestly it's because this thing is so awesome to pull from.
When I do the MJ arsenal, the flavor you get from this and I
can imagine from like a dry pipe vaporizer, I will tell you how
my experience was on it. But the MJ arsenal?
Very sharp, slightly chemically, but it's sharp and sweet.
Maybe that's what it is 'cause I I was trying to think about the
notes that I'm getting in my mouth because it's it's maybe
it's chemically but I was going to Plante like I was tasting
almost, but not like the normal burning plant taste of, you
know, hey this tastes like cannabis burning.
It's almost like maybe that's what it is, is that's on your
end the chemically notes you're getting with the MJ and this is
like Plante or a different note that I'm it's not.
Bad. No, it's not bad at all.
It's just distinct and the experience now it is it can be a
slow onset. It's depending on how much
you're going through. Now with a vaporizer, the
vaporizer that I had, this strain lasted me and this is
very strange. Something could have happened.
I could have had enough. I could have had more fats in my
diet. I've noticed that the more fats
I consume in a day when I use cannabis, the longer they
experience. Yeah, 'cause it attaches to
those fats. Right, the fat molecules.
Stays there longer. That's why when people are
trying, I'm like if you are an unfortunate person who lives in
a state or has jobs that require you to be piss tested and then
cannabis can be a disqualifier for you.
The reason why that one It sticks within your fat cells.
It doesn't just leave, it slowly dissipates.
Stretch your blood, your urine, everything, Anything you excrete
out and it stays for up to 35, about the 30 or more.
Days depending on your metabolism, how often and how
much you use like. If you have a slow metabolism,
it's a lot more difficult and it's an it's just who you are
and way you're built, you can't really, I mean, yeah, there are
ways to hack the system and cheat the system, but somewhat,
yeah, but. And there are some.
I could imagine you would probably be able to pass a test
without having to do anything within 15 days.
'Cause you have such. A low body fat.
But I have, yeah. And I have a crazy high
metabolism. I did a full tea tea break
yesterday. Full 24 hours.
None. Whoa.
Wow. From my microdose.
So when I microdose psilocybin needed that reset, I really,
really wanted to smoke. And I didn't do it.
I'm like, Nope, I'm gonna give myself a break.
I'm gonna let that course through me through the entire
day, and it wasn't as difficult as I thought it was going to be
because an and that's another thing why I'm thinking about
like addiction in cannabis and why cannabis is used for a lot
of the people who are going through addiction recovery from
alcohol, benzos, painkillers, etcetera.
I don't know what else you'd really want to abuse.
I mean like fucking. I had no idea.
Mucinex, right. Food.
Yeah, I guess. But it just it it really like
it. It made me realize that, yeah, I
I do have a dependency on cannabis for certain reasons
because I I'm at a dependency on maintaining a certain type of
mood. Not that I can't hold that mood,
but you know, I'm a pretty positive person.
I'm pessimistic by nature, so I'm always looking for what's
going to go wrong. But the other side is I'm always
looking for that good in it. And so it's weird.
It's a hybrid, if you will. Well, it's it's the and this is
kind of what I think, like there's the human nature that we
naturally have that's like the reactive side.
And then we have like our mind, our consciousness, everything
else that when we are outside of our reactive natural state, we
are happy. We're looking for the good,
we're, you know, doing all of these things.
But then all of the shit, the stress, the aches, the that come
into play, and we lose focus of trying to find the good because
everything else comes in. And I feel like helping you
maintain that mindset almost. Because it's not that you're
addicted to having to have it, that you're like, man, I have to
have this, no. But I want that state.
Yeah, like I can't because you notice, hey, no, I'm stressed.
I'm frustrated. I'm.
I'm like, these things are getting to me where maybe they
shouldn't, or maybe they're getting to me more than I feel
like they normally would. And if I can utilize a
medication, a plant, something, meditation, whatever, to
recenter you back. Sometimes life is hard and
cannabis is the best option for that.
Other times, maybe life is hard and cannabis isn't the best
option for that. It just depends on the moment.
I, you know, that's the one thing I would say about it.
And I'm more, yeah, I I I would be a pusher of this because I
know what it feels like and just depending on how many different
types of strains, like fire, white fire here, white fire is
nice. This is a good strain for those
who are just getting into cannabis too.
It's light, but it's also very uplifting and that's a lot of
the reports. It's uplifting, energetic,
creative. Interesting.
A little. Bit of dry mouth, not
uncontrollable dry mouth. This one's used a lot for like
pain, inflammation and intestinal pain.
So like IBS or Crohn's or anything like that?
Dude, I had a gut but. Fire would be amazing.
I don't know what it was. It was anxiety, stress,
whatever. That's a big reason why I did my
microdose and it was great. It it reset everything.
Like I feel the neural pathways are just, you know, it's it's
almost like it's almost like ketamine in a way.
Yeah, but longer lasting, not meaning that it didn't have the
effect, but longer lasting as far as like the experience.
Cause ketamine is so short. Yeah, but I'll tell you right
now with fire, white fire, this thing is a lot like that feeling
of coming out of that state. So this is like coming down off
psilocybin or ketamine for me. Happy.
Yep. Relaxed.
Totally. Relaxed.
And I don't feel anything too heavy anywhere.
It's not real heavy in my back. It's not real heavy.
And 'cause, you know, different strains can sometimes really sit
in one area, which just goes to talk about the complexity.
Like, if anybody said, like, it's not for everybody, well,
you just haven't tried enough, like, 'cause there's just so
many different plants. And the cool thing is wherever
you move to, you're going to get a different experience.
Can you say that about anything else that's out there?
Right. I mean like tomatoes grown in
New York and tomatoes grown in the Midwest and tomatoes grown
on California, like at the end of the day, pretty similar.
Like they're tomatoes. You don't get a lot of
variation. Yeah, if you're really
particular, kind of like cannabis, maybe if you were to
eat tomatoes all the time and focus on the flavors and that
you might be able to pick out the nuances and the differences
between a West Coast, Central and East Coast.
It's it's almost like a you know one of my favorite strains
Pineapple Express it I'm so I've never tried it.
Flower here, I'm so. Excited.
He just saw it from that. Grow, dude.
There was. This big old bag.
Giant bin. We'll post some videos of Jesse
just like looking like a kid in a candy.
Store just like pulling these apart open on there right?
You guys doing the? Unboxing.
And it was so cool. Like the coolest thing was like
grabbing the leaf and then just just the strike homes.
Just on your finger. From the terpenes you could
smell it and it was so good. My I'm.
Making I just kept. Getting stuck, walking through
like the leaves would stick to my jacket and stuff.
I'm like, hey dude, yeah, I love.
You too. My clothes.
I had to put them out in my garage because they were so
like, when I came in my house, my kids were like, what the
fuck? Oh, that's fun.
It was so strong. My wife is so tolerant with me.
She's just like, that's OK. It smells like ham.
And sometimes she'd be like, did you smoke?
And I'm like, no. And she's like, and it was my
hat. Interesting.
My hat was. Just from when we had smoked or
something and dude. You imagine how many trichomes
and and all sorts of shit just on our.
On our clothes, Smoke our clothes, I mean.
It was. It was amazing, but seeing this
particular plant was really cool.
The The funny thing too. It's supposed to be pungent,
spicy, herbal, slightly spicy. Not really, I I wouldn't say.
You coughed a little bit with like the first hit.
It was a big hit though, yes. But there's been no coughing
residual. There's been nothing like that
throughout the show and I was actually thinking about that and
like I've had an entire cup of coffee and we've smoked.
I don't have massively bad cottonmouth from this.
No, it's a little there, but it's something you could sip on.
I also had a whole cup of coffee with that.
So yeah, it'll dry out a little bit more.
And yet I'm like, I still don't feel like it's terrible for
that. So like this strain is not
really bad. Dry.
I don't feel dry eyes at all, Cottonmouth.
I feel like half of it might be for my coffee.
So the dry mouth is really non existent probably I would guess.
And like I don't feel over euphoric, I don't feel overly
high. There's no no haze.
Zero haze. No haze.
Such a clear strain. Now one of the things is really
cool about it is that I had a bowl and then maybe hour or two
later and I had it with the vaporizer first long time.
It lasted through almost three hours like a just to see how
this this haze feels. Just slight.
It's just there. You can feel like you.
Feel it I. Don't feel hazy, but I I can
feel that there's cannabis in my headspace.
Basically, yeah. Cannabis is extremely unique.
Unique feel. Yeah, 'cause I've done pills and
all sorts of shit and there's nothing quite like cannabis.
But this one stayed with me. And then I had another, but I
actually had like a bowl of my bubbler.
OK. Yeah.
Oh dude, I was like and it it was a combination of going to
the gym that day and other factors.
But truly dude, it put me down like some of the best sleep I
had was on this. So if I double dosed it, I gave
it about an hour or so space. It gave me more of a feeling of
relaxation and I was as stable to I crashed.
I don't even remember falling asleep, and I've had a real
tough time with sleep lately. Same.
And I was just like, oh, this feels so nice.
That's amazing. I just passed out.
My wife was like scratching my back and I don't even remember.
I don't remember laying. I had my shirt like over my my
arms. She's like scratching your back,
I. Fell asleep in like no blanket
and it's fucking cold. That's fine.
I woke up like 3. I'm like, she's like, I'm not
going to bother, I'm just leaving there.
But yeah, this one is a great. And now you notice as this keeps
coming on, it starts to hit, sit heavier in the eyes and it's
really relaxing. It is a nice relaxing.
I think this would be a good, I would say double bowl.
Like check it out if you don't feel like you are too high,
yeah. Like, but it's different though.
Usually sativas just go up and up and up.
On the headaches, yeah. Yeah, I don't.
I've never gotten a headache on this one.
I haven't had, I've. Smoked a good amount.
Sativa headaches in flower in a long time?
No. But distes I will.
Oh, I'll wait. Often with distes, but flower?
I feel like it's very particular sativa strains and I have to be
smoking a lot to get to that point with flowery typically
'cause it's just the experience is so much cleaner.
Totally. Yeah.
The the experience is extremely clean.
Yeah. Pure plan Utah strain.
But if you. Have a white fire.
Is a very popular strain, but it's a high percentage strain.
Typical ranges are like 10 to $20 per gram.
But we had a really great, I mean it it wasn't that
expensive. It was really good.
Check it out. Yeah, Give White fire a try.
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