1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,080 Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angelus. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,040 And I'm Brandon Elder, and we're here to talk to you about 3 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:13,400 everything pertaining to cannabis from vape, flower, 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,800 edibles, strains and everything in between. 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,400 All right everybody, welcome back to Tuesday and we got a 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,400 special guest with us. We have Carmine. 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,120 From New York now I'm going to get a little bit of a tear sheet 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,840 over there. His company is ID Botanicals and 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,120 he's going to be one of the first, is that right, one of the 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,280 first medical dispensaries in New York. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Fantastic. I mean, very recreational. 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,520 So that's that's awesome. So that's going to be fantastic, 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,760 especially for those people who are looking to get into it. 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,440 Not necessarily sold on the medical card because they just 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,480 like, you know, maybe I don't have those types of conditions, 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,300 but. Being able to use this wonderful 17 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:02,940 plant and being able to heal us both mentally and physically, 18 00:01:03,380 --> 00:01:07,300 man, it almost does that full culmination, right. 19 00:01:07,420 --> 00:01:10,660 Get back to that spiritual side to just helps everything smooth 20 00:01:10,660 --> 00:01:16,300 out. Absolutely, absolutely. 21 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:19,900 So brother you you've got a lot. I mean beside being an awesome 22 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:24,420 pioneer out there in in New York by being able to take that risk 23 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:27,300 as so many others do and being able to start up a cannabis 24 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:29,490 company. You've got a pretty extensive 25 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:34,210 background. Former former military, Former 26 00:01:34,330 --> 00:01:34,690 FDNY. Yep. 27 00:01:34,690 --> 00:01:35,170 Yeah. Yeah. 28 00:01:35,810 --> 00:01:37,970 Tesla. Yeah, sure. 29 00:01:38,770 --> 00:01:43,650 Thanks, Jess. First of all, thanks so much for 30 00:01:43,650 --> 00:01:45,370 having me on the show. Listen to you guys. 31 00:01:45,370 --> 00:01:48,930 You guys are awesome. And yeah, I served eight years 32 00:01:48,930 --> 00:01:53,370 with the US Army. I spent six years with the New 33 00:01:53,370 --> 00:01:56,840 York Army National Guard and then I spent. 11 years with the 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,680 New York City Fire Department as an EMT. 35 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:04,600 So total I have about 18-19 years of just serving my country 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,440 state or city and I loved every second of it you know and 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,280 currently I'm a disabled army veteran. 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,920 I hope like you said I open. I'm plan on opening up a 39 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:18,760 recreational dispensary this coming 2023 you know here in New 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,720 York and it's just been. You know, like the main, you 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,200 know, like the the main reason I want to open up a dispensary is 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,800 because what cannabis has done for me, you know, and and it's 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,000 it's saved my life. You know, I'm in. 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,200 I'm in recovery from opiate addiction and you know, I grew 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,520 up. Let me start from the beginning. 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,160 You know, there's so much, you know, to say, you know, I grew 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,920 up with a, you know, in a really negative type of household, you 48 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:49,760 know, you know, it was abusive and everything and whatnot, so. 49 00:02:50,620 --> 00:02:52,820 You know, I ran, you know, like a lot of young kids do. 50 00:02:52,820 --> 00:02:54,980 I ran into the military. You know, when I, you know, when 51 00:02:54,980 --> 00:02:57,940 I, I hurt myself while I was in the military and when I came 52 00:02:57,940 --> 00:03:00,540 out, You know, the doctors, you know, they push you, push 53 00:03:00,540 --> 00:03:03,580 painkillers on you. You know, it was this was 2007, 54 00:03:03,620 --> 00:03:06,340 eight and nine, you know, so this is like the Wild West of 55 00:03:06,340 --> 00:03:09,620 the opiate days, you know, so doctors are just writing scripts 56 00:03:09,620 --> 00:03:12,980 of 120 of whatever I wanted every month, you know, and I 57 00:03:12,980 --> 00:03:15,820 would go to 2-3 doctors a week and they would each write in the 58 00:03:15,820 --> 00:03:19,950 same prescription and. I was unfortunately one of those 59 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:22,390 statistics that got caught up in the opiate epidemic. 60 00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:26,550 You know I used opiates as a coping mechanism for emotional 61 00:03:26,990 --> 00:03:29,990 support you know for physical for spiritual. 62 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:35,590 I used it opiate as my everything you know and and I, 63 00:03:35,630 --> 00:03:39,270 you know I'm, I'm a survivor of the opiate pandemic, you know 64 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:42,630 and that's exactly what it is you know because and I and I 65 00:03:42,870 --> 00:03:48,150 didn't survive you know. I survived by the skin of my 66 00:03:48,150 --> 00:03:51,710 teeth, I should say, you know, because I've have over 13 67 00:03:51,710 --> 00:03:57,430 overdoses and I've been in over 30 treatment centers and I'm 68 00:03:57,430 --> 00:04:00,150 lucky to be alive, you know, And you know, when people always 69 00:04:00,150 --> 00:04:03,030 complain that, hey, life isn't fair, I am blessed. 70 00:04:03,030 --> 00:04:04,830 And I am thankful that life isn't fair. 71 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:07,470 You know, if life was fair, I wouldn't be here today. 72 00:04:07,790 --> 00:04:14,340 So, you know, and I was back in 2000. 18 I had a surgery on my 73 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:17,579 elbow and after that surgery the doctors gave me painkillers and 74 00:04:17,579 --> 00:04:21,339 I knew I couldn't take it And my friend, you know he sat me down. 75 00:04:21,339 --> 00:04:23,220 He's like, dude why don't you just smoke a joint with me. 76 00:04:23,660 --> 00:04:26,260 I was like, bro, I'm I just had a surgery. 77 00:04:26,460 --> 00:04:28,940 You know like my marriage is is struggling right now. 78 00:04:28,940 --> 00:04:30,820 My relationship with my parents isn't good. 79 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:34,020 Smoke in a joint isn't going to solve my problems man. 80 00:04:34,860 --> 00:04:38,220 You know and but you know excuse me he was my best friend. 81 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:40,020 I grew up with him. So I sat down and we smoked 82 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:44,560 together and. Things seemed better, you know, 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:51,360 and things became better slowly but surely, you know, and I I 84 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,320 didn't, you know, I didn't even think about using opiates ever 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,440 again after cannabis. You know, I'm not saying that 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,960 opiates, you know, wasn't, you know, wasn't there. 87 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,040 No, because opiates was there. I just came back from a 88 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,960 doctor's, you know, a couple days ago and he know he wanted 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,600 to prescribe me painkillers for my back. 90 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,580 And I said no, I'm good. I'm good man. 91 00:05:10,580 --> 00:05:12,500 Thank you. You know, because I don't, 92 00:05:12,980 --> 00:05:16,460 because cannabis opened up my eyes into what life has really 93 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:19,100 to offer me and what I have to offer life. 94 00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:22,020 You know, and you know, like Brandon, you know, you 95 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:25,420 mentioned, you know, on the spiritual part, you know, you 96 00:05:25,420 --> 00:05:27,100 know, you mentioned some of spirituality. 97 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:29,340 And that's what cannabis has done for me in a way. 98 00:05:29,340 --> 00:05:34,740 You know, it opened my heart and my mind to, you know, what the 99 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:37,660 world has for me and what I could do for the world because 100 00:05:37,660 --> 00:05:41,700 it is a symbiotic relationship. You know, and I I am a strong 101 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:44,740 proponent of that, that, you know, life is a symbiotic 102 00:05:44,740 --> 00:05:46,820 relationship where I could perform what I could give to 103 00:05:46,820 --> 00:05:48,460 life and what life could give to me, you know? 104 00:05:49,220 --> 00:05:52,620 So yeah, but I feel like I'm. I'm going on and on right now. 105 00:05:53,660 --> 00:05:57,620 No, no, we appreciate it. Like your story is huge because 106 00:05:57,620 --> 00:06:01,700 so many people everywhere struggle with that opioid 107 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:04,780 crisis. It is an epidemic that has been 108 00:06:04,780 --> 00:06:08,140 going on. We've had billboards all over 109 00:06:08,140 --> 00:06:11,570 about. Like overdose deaths, like, it 110 00:06:11,570 --> 00:06:14,650 is huge. It's rampant everywhere. 111 00:06:14,650 --> 00:06:18,330 So, you know, props to you for fighting the fight and sticking 112 00:06:18,330 --> 00:06:20,850 around and you know, to everyone fighting that struggle. 113 00:06:21,170 --> 00:06:26,130 Maybe cannabis is your option. So yeah, yeah. 114 00:06:26,130 --> 00:06:28,690 And it's not like I haven't tried, you know, Like I said, I 115 00:06:28,690 --> 00:06:31,690 tried over 30 treatment centers and after treatment centers, you 116 00:06:31,690 --> 00:06:35,690 know, I did the A, A and the NA thing and, you know, and what NA 117 00:06:35,810 --> 00:06:38,810 and A A does. You know, it gives the person a 118 00:06:38,810 --> 00:06:42,770 purpose and your purpose and those meanings is to stay sober 119 00:06:42,770 --> 00:06:44,090 and help somebody else stay sober. 120 00:06:44,530 --> 00:06:47,210 So in essence, they're giving you a purpose of trying to give 121 00:06:47,210 --> 00:06:50,610 back. And that's what cannabis did to 122 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:51,610 me. It gave me. 123 00:06:51,770 --> 00:06:55,690 It realized that that I'm able to give back to others in a 124 00:06:55,690 --> 00:06:59,330 different way, you know, and I'm advocating for cannabis use 125 00:06:59,330 --> 00:07:03,210 among first responders, among veterans here in New York and. 126 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:07,260 It's such an amazing thing to be able to give back to certain to 127 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:10,580 these communities and help them and to watch these communities 128 00:07:10,580 --> 00:07:13,860 flourish like after I, you know, you know, while we're doing it 129 00:07:13,860 --> 00:07:16,580 together, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah. 130 00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:22,260 You were recently on the City Council for Long Beach talking 131 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:25,820 about cannabis. Yeah, I was there at the Long 132 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:29,180 Beach Town Board meeting. Right now, Long Island and all 133 00:07:29,180 --> 00:07:31,540 of New York State actually is holding meetings. 134 00:07:32,490 --> 00:07:36,450 To decide if these towns should allow recreational sales of 135 00:07:36,450 --> 00:07:38,890 cannabis. So you know, I go up there as an 136 00:07:38,890 --> 00:07:41,410 advocate for cannabis, as an entrepreneur, as a business 137 00:07:41,410 --> 00:07:43,920 owner, as an recovered oh. Speed addict. 138 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,320 As a resident, you know, I go in there full force and I advocate 139 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,920 that having retail sites available to the public would 140 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,840 actually save people's lives. Because there was a whole 141 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,640 article about in Connecticut how there was cannabis laced with 142 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,160 fentanyl. And the people were going, you 143 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,960 know, going into the hospitals, you know, and I and I told them 144 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,120 if these people had access to safe cannabis, you know, they 145 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,560 wouldn't be in the house, they wouldn't be in that situation. 146 00:08:10,610 --> 00:08:13,850 You know, if me, if I had access to cannabis, as a first 147 00:08:13,850 --> 00:08:18,010 responder veteran, you know, five years before, maybe I 148 00:08:18,010 --> 00:08:21,570 wouldn't have had 13 overdoses. Maybe my son didn't have to see 149 00:08:21,570 --> 00:08:23,330 his father blew. And what would his eyes hold 150 00:08:23,330 --> 00:08:25,850 back on the floor, a sight that he'll never forget? 151 00:08:26,130 --> 00:08:28,650 You know, maybe those things would not have had had happened, 152 00:08:28,930 --> 00:08:32,049 You know, if I had that option for me, if the doctors even 153 00:08:32,049 --> 00:08:35,289 said, hey, this is an option for you, but no one ever brought 154 00:08:35,289 --> 00:08:39,740 that up to me, you know? Yeah, it's huge because across 155 00:08:39,740 --> 00:08:44,380 the United States so many people don't know that are or not being 156 00:08:44,380 --> 00:08:47,620 given or told these options. And that's a lot of why we're 157 00:08:47,620 --> 00:08:51,140 having these discussions is because so many people that I 158 00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:55,460 know that Jesse know we've had these discussions and it's 159 00:08:55,460 --> 00:08:58,140 constant. It's people going what is 160 00:08:58,140 --> 00:09:00,320 cannabis. Yeah. 161 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,240 What is that? What does that do? 162 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,520 Yeah. And and and definitely by being 163 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,840 able to get past the stereotypes that are pretty persistent 164 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,800 throughout that especially on the outside because cannabis is 165 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,040 a culture once you what once you are able to be and and I would 166 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,560 say guided into that. I mean if you're, if you're just 167 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:21,200 going to be stupid and these stupid things. 168 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Hey you could do that. You could do that with Diet Coke 169 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,080 like you can drink yourself stupid, right. 170 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,780 So I mean. It it, it doesn't matter. 171 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,820 It it what it what's being used. It matters on the intent. 172 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:36,180 And when you experience that for the first time of just being 173 00:09:36,180 --> 00:09:40,660 able to relax, to be able to let go, to not hold on to anger and 174 00:09:40,660 --> 00:09:41,860 hate. And that's where a lot of this 175 00:09:41,860 --> 00:09:45,340 pain comes from, right? It's not necessarily just the 176 00:09:45,340 --> 00:09:49,220 physical, the physical gas there, but it's it's done being 177 00:09:49,260 --> 00:09:52,260 in pain. It's done feeling so down and. 178 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:56,070 Cannabis is this great bridge to be able to help out with pain 179 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:58,950 management, but also by being able to give you time to reflect 180 00:09:58,950 --> 00:10:02,510 and just being you just just letting yourself observe 181 00:10:02,510 --> 00:10:05,310 yourself from the third perspective and it it's 182 00:10:05,310 --> 00:10:09,150 absolutely just mind opening, mind changing and and life 183 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:12,350 changing. You know Jess, I love that you 184 00:10:12,350 --> 00:10:14,910 said that, you know, taking a step back and looking at 185 00:10:14,910 --> 00:10:17,910 yourself and that's what cannabis has given me the 186 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:20,450 opportunity to do. You know, it made me look at my 187 00:10:20,570 --> 00:10:24,170 at my life as a whole, you know, in the third person, it's like, 188 00:10:24,530 --> 00:10:27,250 you know, like I literally had a conversation with myself years 189 00:10:27,250 --> 00:10:28,650 ago. I remember this conversation 190 00:10:28,650 --> 00:10:31,210 vividly. I'm like, I'm like your kids are 191 00:10:31,210 --> 00:10:34,650 going to find you dead one day if you don't stop this shit, you 192 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:38,730 know, and and and that was, you know, while I was smoking a 193 00:10:38,730 --> 00:10:40,690 joint, I had these, you know, you know, like what if, you 194 00:10:40,690 --> 00:10:43,490 know, what would your kids do? Be the father that you needed. 195 00:10:43,490 --> 00:10:45,450 You know, these type of conversations I was having in my 196 00:10:45,450 --> 00:10:48,900 head, you know, and it. It gave me, it gave me that 197 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:51,660 motivation to be a better person, a better father, you 198 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:54,140 know, because, you know, I wasn't like knocking on Heaven's 199 00:10:54,140 --> 00:10:55,780 Door. I was breaking and entering, You 200 00:10:55,780 --> 00:11:00,700 know, like that's 13 overdoses, you know, so and and then, you 201 00:11:00,700 --> 00:11:03,220 know, like recently I've been thinking like recently as I 202 00:11:03,220 --> 00:11:06,620 smoke, you know, like today I was thinking I'm, I'm living on 203 00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:09,580 borrowed time because, you know, if you ever had, you know, one 204 00:11:09,580 --> 00:11:11,420 of those stages of grief is bargaining. 205 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:13,780 You know, when you say, God, please just give me my dad back 206 00:11:13,780 --> 00:11:16,740 and I'll do anything, you know, maybe. 207 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,480 I had thirteen chances. And you know, I'm here today, so 208 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,960 I'm living on borrowed time. So just by me constantly saying 209 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,880 that to myself gives me a different perspective on life, 210 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,000 you know, about how to be. And it's makes me a better 211 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,760 father, a better husband, you know, Doesn't let me get angry 212 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,720 of the small stuff anymore. Yeah, I think, yeah, definitely. 213 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Cannabis has brought in a lot more patience, a lot more 214 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:48,340 introspection into my life. My kids can tell when not only 215 00:11:48,340 --> 00:11:52,100 am I more irritable because I'm in pain, but they know because 216 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:54,580 I'll go. I just need to go puff for a 217 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:57,220 second and then I'll be back. And then I come in and I'm like, 218 00:11:57,780 --> 00:12:01,740 I'm sorry. I just, you know, and I come 219 00:12:01,740 --> 00:12:05,300 back and I can have a normal conversation to look at, whether 220 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:09,380 it's their issues, my issues, whatever it is from a much 221 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:12,060 better perspective than I would have approached initially. 222 00:12:13,570 --> 00:12:16,890 Absolutely, absolutely. You know, like I've been, you 223 00:12:16,890 --> 00:12:20,730 know, on an anger tear lately and you know, I just just, you 224 00:12:20,730 --> 00:12:23,770 know, random person of anger then coming out of me, you know, 225 00:12:23,770 --> 00:12:27,090 and I've been thinking I'm like why what what's going on, you 226 00:12:27,090 --> 00:12:28,610 know? And I would go and smoke on it 227 00:12:28,610 --> 00:12:31,250 and I would come back completely different, a completely 228 00:12:31,250 --> 00:12:34,770 different person, you know, able to communicate like a human, 229 00:12:34,770 --> 00:12:38,930 like an adult to my wife, you know, and it's and. 230 00:12:39,690 --> 00:12:43,250 And to be able to communicate as an adult is huge for me. 231 00:12:45,050 --> 00:12:49,850 For a lot of us, yeah, to look at things and go, what the hell 232 00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:54,250 did I just say? Yeah, some of the deepest shit 233 00:12:54,250 --> 00:12:57,570 that comes out of my mouth is usually because I've had, you 234 00:12:57,570 --> 00:12:59,010 know, at least three or four poles. 235 00:12:59,430 --> 00:13:02,510 Off of my little pen because it just, it gets me into the state 236 00:13:02,510 --> 00:13:05,510 where I start thinking about things a little bit differently 237 00:13:05,550 --> 00:13:09,390 and and not necessarily thinking of it in the egotistical state. 238 00:13:09,390 --> 00:13:11,590 Right. It's more of a you know what can 239 00:13:11,590 --> 00:13:14,110 I do to contribute and it slows you down. 240 00:13:14,110 --> 00:13:15,910 Like I was telling Brandon about it and I was like you know 241 00:13:15,910 --> 00:13:19,430 people complain about memory problems with with cannabis. 242 00:13:20,030 --> 00:13:23,350 I would actually have to say that it has expanded my memory 243 00:13:23,710 --> 00:13:26,070 very much because I'm I'm slower. 244 00:13:26,670 --> 00:13:30,230 And I can actually observe and take it in and it imprints on me 245 00:13:30,230 --> 00:13:33,710 and then I can remember and with what I do professionally as well 246 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:37,950 that that matters, that matters so much and being able to take 247 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:41,990 those small little moments and it's just it's just awesome, 248 00:13:41,990 --> 00:13:43,550 man. I I mean, I can't. 249 00:13:43,550 --> 00:13:46,350 I I know it sounds like the the funniest thing is if you were to 250 00:13:46,350 --> 00:13:50,270 talk to me about this five years ago saying hey Jess, try 251 00:13:50,270 --> 00:13:52,590 cannabis is going to help you out and like no, I'll be a 252 00:13:52,590 --> 00:13:54,630 stupid idiot if I do that all the time. 253 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,160 And now when somebody asks, like, when, how much do you 254 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,880 have? How often do you have cannabis? 255 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,120 I'm like, what time is it? Does anything from there, right? 256 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,640 Exactly, man. You know, I'm literally talking 257 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,680 to my wife tonight. I'm like, you know, I'm like, I 258 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:11,800 think I found a good regimen for my, for my usage. 259 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,480 And she's like, what's that? I'm like, you know, I'm like 260 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,900 just three times a day. And she's like, what do you mean 261 00:14:16,900 --> 00:14:18,700 three times a day? I'm like every time the hour 262 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:23,540 lands on a three, you know, I gotta smoke 253. 263 00:14:23,540 --> 00:14:28,220 I gotta smoke, you know, and it's just and you know, and it's 264 00:14:28,220 --> 00:14:30,500 just, you know, like a joke me and her have but, you know, 265 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:32,420 like, but she is serious about like. 266 00:14:32,990 --> 00:14:36,830 Me using cannabis as not only a mental health aide, but as an 267 00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:39,350 aid for a relationship. And she doesn't smoke at all. 268 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:42,790 She doesn't consume at all, you know, And she's fine with her 269 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:45,710 glass of wine. And I'm fine with my joint or my 270 00:14:45,710 --> 00:14:50,310 blonde or my ball and my bong, you know, and we have and and 271 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:53,310 and it's and it's such a great it's just brought so much more 272 00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:56,110 joy and laughter into our relationship, you know? 273 00:14:57,630 --> 00:14:59,950 Oh yeah. Well, when you're on cannabis 274 00:14:59,950 --> 00:15:02,430 versus opiates, you're a lot more yourself. 275 00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:08,230 Opiates, you are some hazy, distant, not even there. 276 00:15:08,990 --> 00:15:14,110 So yeah, it's almost like, you know, I I'm not a huge I I don't 277 00:15:14,110 --> 00:15:16,750 use alcohol at all anymore and it's just and it's my own 278 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:18,910 personal choice. But I just find that I don't. 279 00:15:19,270 --> 00:15:22,070 I don't feel like me when people go, oh, I was drunk and I did 280 00:15:22,070 --> 00:15:24,950 something stupid. It means that no, you're just 281 00:15:24,950 --> 00:15:27,990 acting out because you're at your simplest mind at that time. 282 00:15:28,390 --> 00:15:32,270 But if you smoke a joint or you take a hit off a pipe or. 283 00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:35,700 Or any You stop and you think about what you're about to do. 284 00:15:35,740 --> 00:15:38,340 The argument is not coming out like it. 285 00:15:38,660 --> 00:15:41,020 That's the thing that I have to do if I if I ever get in the 286 00:15:41,020 --> 00:15:43,020 heated argument with my wife, which is rare. 287 00:15:43,020 --> 00:15:46,340 But if it does happen, I'm like I I got to go for just a SEC. 288 00:15:46,340 --> 00:15:47,620 Give me a SEC. I'll come back. 289 00:15:47,860 --> 00:15:50,700 I'll say something reasonable. I'll say something where you're 290 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:51,900 not going to put me on the couch. 291 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:53,940 All right. So give me a few. 292 00:15:55,020 --> 00:15:56,700 Absolutely. Absolutely. 293 00:15:56,780 --> 00:15:58,420 You know. And you know. 294 00:15:59,130 --> 00:16:01,250 Me and my wife, we have that understanding now. 295 00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:03,810 And she'll even tell me she's like, you need to go go to the 296 00:16:03,810 --> 00:16:06,610 garage. I'm like, what? 297 00:16:06,610 --> 00:16:09,170 She's like you need to step out and go into the garage. 298 00:16:10,010 --> 00:16:11,610 I'm like, you know what, that's a good idea. 299 00:16:11,730 --> 00:16:14,930 You know, you can't argue when somebody says, hey, you need to 300 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,690 smoke. You're not going to argue with 301 00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:19,650 that person. No, because a lot of the time 302 00:16:19,650 --> 00:16:22,810 you look at it and you go, yeah, I'm kind of being a little 303 00:16:22,810 --> 00:16:25,050 bitch. It's like it's, I don't need a 304 00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:27,370 Snickers. I need to go smoke. 305 00:16:27,810 --> 00:16:31,610 Like it's really not what it is. You know, Snickers platform 306 00:16:31,650 --> 00:16:34,410 needs to change. It's you don't need a Snickers, 307 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:36,810 You need to smoke and then you'll eat all of the Snickers 308 00:16:36,810 --> 00:16:41,610 anyway. So yeah, absolutely. 309 00:16:41,610 --> 00:16:45,170 You know, and it's it's and you know, like, you know it's just 310 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:47,770 that change of perspective that it does for me and it's. 311 00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:51,470 And it made me realize that, you know, there's no representation 312 00:16:51,470 --> 00:16:53,710 in New York for first responders and cannabis. 313 00:16:53,710 --> 00:16:57,030 You know, like, you know, we everyone knows that veterans and 314 00:16:57,110 --> 00:17:00,270 veterans suicide, cannabis can help with veterans repeating And 315 00:17:00,270 --> 00:17:03,030 see that's no big secret, you know, But, you know, I started 316 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:05,869 looking for a first responder groups, first responder 317 00:17:05,869 --> 00:17:09,430 veterans, you know, that you know, advocate for cannabis and 318 00:17:09,430 --> 00:17:13,630 there's none out here, you know. And so, you know, I was like, 319 00:17:13,630 --> 00:17:15,589 you know, the New York cannabis market is coming. 320 00:17:15,630 --> 00:17:20,089 It's opening up in 2023. You know, and they need someone 321 00:17:20,089 --> 00:17:22,770 in the veteran community to advocate for the veterans and 322 00:17:22,770 --> 00:17:25,970 for the first responders, you know, otherwise otherwise the 323 00:17:25,970 --> 00:17:29,050 veterans and 1st responders will have no say in in what the New 324 00:17:29,050 --> 00:17:31,730 York cannabis market is going to look like, you know, and that's 325 00:17:31,730 --> 00:17:34,970 not fair for us. So I decided to stand up and 326 00:17:34,970 --> 00:17:38,930 take that that role on to myself, you know, and. 327 00:17:39,420 --> 00:17:42,540 And I want it and I and it just gave me such a purpose in life 328 00:17:42,620 --> 00:17:44,620 honestly. Like I get up every morning, I 329 00:17:44,620 --> 00:17:47,300 look at which towns are having these board meetings and I go 330 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:49,940 there and I advocate for cannabis use. 331 00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:52,980 And you know, and I go to American Legions and I go to 332 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:55,740 Vfw's and I talk to the veterans there and I see how they're 333 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:58,460 doing. And these are 7086 year old men 334 00:17:58,460 --> 00:18:01,660 sometimes and I'm talking to them about cannabis and you 335 00:18:01,660 --> 00:18:05,100 know, their knee jerk reaction sometimes is, you know, oh I, 336 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:08,580 you know, I haven't smoked that since the 60s or whatever, you 337 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:11,470 know. And you know, my initial 338 00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:16,270 stereotype of these, you know, elderly veterans were they were 339 00:18:16,270 --> 00:18:19,150 going to be against it. But that wasn't the case. 340 00:18:19,150 --> 00:18:22,230 You know, I found like these veterans should be a lot open 341 00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:24,190 minded about it. You know, because they spent 342 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:28,790 years suffering with pain and PTSD that when something herbal 343 00:18:28,790 --> 00:18:31,590 and all natural comes along that is supposed to help them, 344 00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:34,270 they're a lot more responsive than what I originally thought. 345 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:37,990 And it's helping so many of their friends like. 346 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:41,940 Me personally, I have not served in the military, but I have a 347 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:48,540 lot of friends who do and who have, and I know a lot of them 348 00:18:48,540 --> 00:18:53,300 personally suffer from PTSD, severe PTSD, and I know that 349 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:56,500 cannabis has helped them in that. 350 00:18:56,500 --> 00:19:00,500 And so for everyone out there who has a first responder or 351 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:04,980 someone in the military, that's basically all of us know someone 352 00:19:06,060 --> 00:19:09,390 who is doing that. And they are severely like their 353 00:19:09,390 --> 00:19:12,870 mental health. All of that is huge because they 354 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:17,750 are seeing and dealing with stuff every single day that the 355 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:21,910 average person doesn't and it affects them on a whole nother 356 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:24,270 level. And so having this access to 357 00:19:24,270 --> 00:19:28,950 cannabis or even having people advocate to give them that voice 358 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:33,430 or that platform even have the ability to know hey this plant 359 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:37,710 might be for me is is huge. Absolutely. 360 00:19:38,030 --> 00:19:40,070 You know, it's such a great feeling too. 361 00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:43,230 We know when you go to these Vfw's and you know, you speak to 362 00:19:43,230 --> 00:19:45,790 one guy and you spoke to him like 3 weeks ago, then you see 363 00:19:45,790 --> 00:19:49,070 him again and he's like, hey, you know, I got my medical card 364 00:19:49,070 --> 00:19:51,430 because New York, it's not recreational yet. 365 00:19:51,790 --> 00:19:53,910 And I'm like oh good. And he's like, you know what man 366 00:19:53,910 --> 00:19:56,290 he's like. He's like, I like it. 367 00:19:56,290 --> 00:19:58,210 You know, you tell tell me about his experience. 368 00:19:58,210 --> 00:20:00,650 He's like, I like him and you know, he told me he's, you know 369 00:20:00,650 --> 00:20:04,370 he's at half CBD and half THC and you know he found that 370 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:08,290 that's his good Nexus point. And I was so happy that he 371 00:20:08,570 --> 00:20:13,130 figured out what works for him. You know, and and and he just 372 00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:14,610 looked like a completely different person. 373 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,520 You know like he was smiling and not just like that cheesy little 374 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,960 smile like he was smiling from the inside, you know, like and 375 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,200 it was such a good feeling. I remember that seeing him like 376 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,120 that, it was it was great, you know. 377 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,400 Yeah. I mean it being I'm a I'm a 378 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,080 former service member and I didn't serve during the war 379 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,280 time. It was before that. 380 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,760 I was at the end of Clinton's. No thank you. 381 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,920 And and my brother, he's former Army too. 382 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,800 He was the big red one out in Germany. 383 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,280 So he's with tankers but you know when you brought up. 384 00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:48,150 PTSD and you had stated, and we we had a conversation before, 385 00:20:48,590 --> 00:20:51,150 the PTSD that you experienced in the military was pretty 386 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:54,110 difficult, but you had stated something that maybe a lot of 387 00:20:54,110 --> 00:20:56,070 people don't know. And that's the PTSD for the 388 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:58,310 first responders going to that little bit. 389 00:20:59,390 --> 00:21:04,070 Well, yeah, well, the I've seen more trauma as a first responder 390 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:05,470 than I ever did as an Army medic. 391 00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:08,660 You know, and and these are through, you know with with New 392 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:12,100 York City, you know most EMT. So I I run on an ambulance, you 393 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:16,300 know, as my job. And now I I was there through 394 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:20,740 Hurricane Sandy to you know, to all the Hurricanes that hit New 395 00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:23,460 York, the East Coast. You know, those, you know, I was 396 00:21:23,460 --> 00:21:26,700 in the low lying flood zones at that time when I was stationed 397 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:30,380 and I remember my first like 10 months on the street. 398 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,620 You know, I've, you know, it was a culture shock. 399 00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:35,220 You know, I've never seen so many people. 400 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,440 Here in my country, in America, dying left and right and you 401 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,000 know, things that I wasn't able to do that I thought I could do. 402 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,280 You know, you know, as a medic, as an EMT, you know, you have a 403 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,080 belief system that I'm out here helping people. 404 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,920 But when you have those, what we call those bad weeks or those 405 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,960 bad months and where you're just getting bad calls after call 406 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,320 after call after call, and you're not seeing that light or 407 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000 that good that you're doing, it starts hit, you know? 408 00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:06,450 Getting on your mind and and affecting you, especially day in 409 00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:09,250 and day out. And you know, after a year you 410 00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:10,530 know you start getting burnt out. 411 00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:12,530 After two years you start getting irritable. 412 00:22:12,770 --> 00:22:15,650 After three years you start looking for some type of coping 413 00:22:15,650 --> 00:22:18,610 mechanism. And by the 4th or 5th year you 414 00:22:18,610 --> 00:22:22,770 know, you're either you know, drinking yourself you're on you 415 00:22:22,770 --> 00:22:27,170 know, on opiates or you're just an angry irritable you know, 416 00:22:27,170 --> 00:22:29,370 fuck, you know, excuse my language you know, and it's 417 00:22:29,530 --> 00:22:31,620 that's. That's at least that was my 418 00:22:31,620 --> 00:22:35,700 experience and I know by my 4th year on the job I was I I 419 00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:41,700 redeveloped A opiate addiction. I was and I was spiraling out of 420 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,980 control. And I remembered, you know, 421 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:46,820 people at work, they they recommended me to the counseling 422 00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:50,620 services and I called them and you know, they sent me away for 423 00:22:50,620 --> 00:22:53,740 to my first treatment center. And then after that, as soon as 424 00:22:53,740 --> 00:22:56,060 I came back from my treatment center, right back on the 425 00:22:56,060 --> 00:22:58,940 ambulance, go out and don't go do it again. 426 00:22:59,490 --> 00:23:02,170 You know, and I didn't even have a transition time from my 427 00:23:02,170 --> 00:23:06,930 treatment center to hitting the streets, you know, and I think 428 00:23:06,930 --> 00:23:10,890 that was a big thing for me too, not never having a transition, 429 00:23:11,170 --> 00:23:14,890 you know, for me asking for help, getting to help and going 430 00:23:14,890 --> 00:23:16,890 back to work, it was always an immediate thing. 431 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:24,890 No, Yeah, we don't think about that what what you would see as 432 00:23:24,890 --> 00:23:26,890 a first responder especially in those areas and. 433 00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:30,420 And seeing all the things you see, seeing bodies like that. 434 00:23:30,420 --> 00:23:33,420 My brother talked about that where where he was in Iraq, 435 00:23:33,420 --> 00:23:34,820 which he doesn't share with anybody. 436 00:23:34,820 --> 00:23:37,580 But the stories that he told me there, he said those were 437 00:23:37,580 --> 00:23:40,700 imprinted, but it's the ones where you weren't able to save 438 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:43,820 somebody as the hardest. That's what he had said it. 439 00:23:44,140 --> 00:23:46,340 You know, he lose friends out there. 440 00:23:46,540 --> 00:23:48,500 I could only imagine where you're over there. 441 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:50,980 It's not a combatant that you're seeing on the ground. 442 00:23:50,980 --> 00:23:54,340 It's it's somebody who's he don't wants that desperation to 443 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:56,940 live and and when you can't help them. 444 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,960 That's got to be so hard. So with cannabis, is that help 445 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,040 to kind of reflect on it and accept that there's just things 446 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,900 out of your control? Absolutely. 447 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:12,140 Because before cannabis, I would remember I would have these 448 00:24:12,140 --> 00:24:15,740 flashbacks and I wouldn't call them flashbacks, you know, 449 00:24:15,740 --> 00:24:18,300 because I don't like using that word because it has a stigma 450 00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:20,500 attached to it. You know, everyone always thinks 451 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:21,900 about Jacob's Ladder and all that. 452 00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:24,260 You know, like I'm not doing it, you know. 453 00:24:24,580 --> 00:24:26,860 So, you know, when I would have these thoughts, you know, like, 454 00:24:26,860 --> 00:24:31,060 oh man, if I if I only got there 10 seconds quicker, if I only 455 00:24:31,060 --> 00:24:34,020 would pressed a little harder or did, you know, instead of having 456 00:24:34,060 --> 00:24:37,540 those thoughts that I used to have, I'm thinking about. 457 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:42,780 That woman that I delivered her baby on the subway or that woman 458 00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:45,100 that had to pull over in the middle you know in the middle of 459 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,500 snowstorm. And I and I, she had two twins 460 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:49,660 and I, you know, delivered them for her. 461 00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:52,900 I or that's eight-year old boy that fell out of the tree and 462 00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:55,980 broke his arm and I bandage it up and I let him hit the sirens 463 00:24:55,980 --> 00:24:58,900 on the way to the hospital. You know, those are that's what 464 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:01,700 cannabis did to me, made me look at all the good I did out there. 465 00:25:02,260 --> 00:25:04,740 Because that was one thing I like I said, I grew up in a 466 00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:08,780 really negative household, so I always pinpoint the things that 467 00:25:08,780 --> 00:25:11,060 I messed up on. You know, I would come home with 468 00:25:11,060 --> 00:25:14,340 an 85 and my dad would smack me and say you didn't get a 95 like 469 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:18,580 you assisted, you know? But now Canvas changed my 470 00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:20,380 perception. It's like, Nah, man, I did a lot 471 00:25:20,380 --> 00:25:21,340 of good. I did. 472 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:23,940 I helped a lot of people. There's people alive today that 473 00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:27,770 wouldn't be if it wasn't for me. And that's what it really did. 474 00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:30,850 So gave me that confidence to really step up and say, you know 475 00:25:30,850 --> 00:25:33,730 what, I want all the first responders to have this 476 00:25:33,730 --> 00:25:35,570 experience. I want other veterans to have 477 00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:38,130 this experience and have that self-confidence and know that we 478 00:25:38,130 --> 00:25:40,810 helped people despite of all that bad. 479 00:25:41,170 --> 00:25:43,930 There's a lot of good and I want to focus on a good today because 480 00:25:43,930 --> 00:25:47,050 I've done a lot of focusing on the bad in my life and I'm done 481 00:25:47,050 --> 00:25:52,730 with that. Yeah, cannabis definitely helps. 482 00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:56,060 See things in a better better light and better perspective 483 00:25:56,380 --> 00:25:58,780 that sometimes it's hard to let ourselves see before. 484 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:05,740 And this is I'm so excited that what you're doing not only for 485 00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:10,380 yourself and and there needs to be a a praise to that is not 486 00:26:10,380 --> 00:26:13,220 necessarily that you got clean but you found something else to 487 00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:16,580 be able to help fill that in. As is we're all compulsive 488 00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:18,220 creatures as humans we're always. 489 00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:20,690 We're addicted to one thing or another, right? 490 00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:24,410 Whether it's scratch tickets, Diet Coke or or popping pills 491 00:26:24,410 --> 00:26:27,370 like we've got something, but you know where something is 492 00:26:27,370 --> 00:26:30,770 natural as as as cannabis is. And you know, I don't want to 493 00:26:30,770 --> 00:26:33,690 sound like a a fullblown hippie, but give me a tie dyed shirt and 494 00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:36,610 I'll grow up my dreads because you know, why not? 495 00:26:37,090 --> 00:26:41,210 They had it, right? You know, it's life is better. 496 00:26:41,410 --> 00:26:45,490 There's less conflict like any of these areas that were having 497 00:26:45,490 --> 00:26:48,120 riots. Instead of shooting tear gas 498 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:52,080 grenades in there, just shoot THC grenades out there and just 499 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,720 smoke them out. And then after a while the smoke 500 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040 clears, they'll be picking up shit and putting it away. 501 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,040 Going man, I'm sorry I was so mad and I said all that mean 502 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,680 shit to you. I think I'm just trying to be 503 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,880 killed there. Oh man, I I believe it, man. 504 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,760 I agree. You know, I always say cannabis. 505 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,160 I at every board meeting, I say cannabis is the people's drug, 506 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,960 you know, and it's the people's plan, I always say. 507 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,570 But yeah, and I agree. I agree man. 508 00:27:18,290 --> 00:27:23,250 Cannabis has changed my life and it's such a better person for 509 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:26,170 today, you know, you know this Thanksgiving, you know my 510 00:27:26,170 --> 00:27:29,970 company, Ivy Botanical that we were able to feed three families 511 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:33,090 and 15 people. You know, because I was, you 512 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:37,090 know, I just went out and I asked on on social media if 513 00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:40,210 anyone would allow me to feed their family for for 514 00:27:40,210 --> 00:27:42,250 Thanksgiving. I said you don't have to be in 515 00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:43,770 crisis. You don't have to be in need. 516 00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:46,570 Just allow me to feed your family because some people don't 517 00:27:46,570 --> 00:27:49,450 want to reach out because they go, I'm not in crisis, I'm not 518 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:51,010 need, but you know, about things are tight. 519 00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:52,490 Those are the people I want to feed. 520 00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:55,770 I want to feed the people that don't really ask for help but 521 00:27:55,770 --> 00:27:58,650 need to help, you know? So I tried making it like as 522 00:27:58,650 --> 00:28:01,290 easy as it could be. I said just DM me, just message 523 00:28:01,290 --> 00:28:02,850 me. You don't have to make it public 524 00:28:02,850 --> 00:28:05,850 or, you know, and I was able to help three families and 15 525 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:08,250 people and it was such an amazing feeling. 526 00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:10,660 It really was, you know, it was. It was amazing. 527 00:28:10,780 --> 00:28:14,580 It was just amazing, you know, And that just gave me that jolt 528 00:28:14,620 --> 00:28:20,100 of I know that God put me on this earth to help people and 529 00:28:20,140 --> 00:28:23,300 cannabis is the part of that. And you know, let's go. 530 00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:25,780 And I'm not a religious guy. I'm more spiritual in that 531 00:28:25,780 --> 00:28:27,750 matter. But yeah, I just use the word 532 00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:31,350 God because it's less synonyms than deity and whatnot. 533 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:35,630 Yeah, whatever. Whatever energy or essence or 534 00:28:36,910 --> 00:28:38,390 flavor of the month you believe in. 535 00:28:38,430 --> 00:28:40,390 Yeah, whatever's whatever's your bonfire. 536 00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:42,390 Go to that. Exactly. 537 00:28:42,390 --> 00:28:44,030 I just use the word God because it's easy. 538 00:28:44,030 --> 00:28:49,870 It's only three letters. Well, Carm, I thank you so much 539 00:28:49,870 --> 00:28:54,350 for joining us and in sharing your story of how cannabis says. 540 00:28:54,990 --> 00:28:58,110 Has not only helped you, but you saw that there was an 541 00:28:58,110 --> 00:29:00,510 opportunity for you to be able to share that same goodness with 542 00:29:00,510 --> 00:29:03,030 others and thank you for your service. 543 00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:06,710 And more importantly, I mean, you know, as as a, you know, one 544 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:08,630 military guy to another man, thank you for doing what you 545 00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:10,310 did. But more importantly, think what 546 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:13,270 you did on the streets for all those people, thank you for 547 00:29:13,270 --> 00:29:14,990 sharing those stories about delivering babies. 548 00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:17,990 Like that's that's awesome. Not anybody being able to say 549 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:21,990 that they did that, but when you look back, that's that's badass, 550 00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:23,110 bro. That's awesome. 551 00:29:24,380 --> 00:29:26,220 Thank you so much, Betsy. Appreciate it, man. 552 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:28,580 I really thank you guys so much for having me, Brandon. 553 00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:30,780 Thank you. Of course. 554 00:29:30,780 --> 00:29:34,140 Just a couple more questions. What is your favorite strain? 555 00:29:34,180 --> 00:29:37,340 Yeah. Yeah, my favorite strain. 556 00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:41,540 As of right now in New York, we have this fruity Pebble strain. 557 00:29:41,540 --> 00:29:45,580 It's an indica strain from pharma can and it is a really 558 00:29:45,580 --> 00:29:49,260 nice tasty terpene profile and I really like it. 559 00:29:49,780 --> 00:29:52,100 It does have such delicious terpenes. 560 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:54,770 Yeah. Fruity Pebbles is fantastic. 561 00:29:54,970 --> 00:29:57,410 It's awesome. It's seriously one of my 562 00:29:57,410 --> 00:30:00,930 favorites as well. My other one, mine right now 563 00:30:00,930 --> 00:30:03,930 like if I could go to an indica, it's it's ice cream. 564 00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:08,410 Ice cream was oh man, but I'm a sativa guy. 565 00:30:08,490 --> 00:30:10,570 So. But Brandon, what's your 566 00:30:10,570 --> 00:30:15,030 favorite indica right now? That's really tough. 567 00:30:15,070 --> 00:30:18,870 I'm really liking lava cake, but right now I just, I blasted 568 00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:21,470 through that ice cream. It was fantastic. 569 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:27,350 Zero complaints. Yeah, it's it's yeah. 570 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:30,750 And if you had one thing that you would leave for people 571 00:30:30,750 --> 00:30:33,670 looking into cannabis or considering cannabis, what would 572 00:30:33,670 --> 00:30:35,070 you what would you leave for them? 573 00:30:37,310 --> 00:30:39,110 I would. I would leave for them. 574 00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:44,620 Give cannabis a try. In a with a responsible in a 575 00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:50,500 responsible way because a lot of people have alternate 576 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:54,460 experiences with cannabis because their THECBD levels are 577 00:30:55,060 --> 00:30:59,740 too strong for the novice user. So I would say use cannabis in a 578 00:30:59,740 --> 00:31:03,300 responsible way with someone that you trust and love because 579 00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:06,460 that's what cannabis is for. It's all about love and that's 580 00:31:06,460 --> 00:31:09,300 what I believe it is. You know, cannabis is love, so 581 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:12,420 just spread love. We hear that so much. 582 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:16,500 We hear that so much. Well, thanks for sharing your 583 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,380 lab, brother and joining us on this. 584 00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:21,940 And yeah, thank you guys so much. 585 00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:23,620 Guys. This has been amazing. 586 00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:26,500 Thank you guys so much. Yeah, keep in touch with us. 587 00:31:26,780 --> 00:31:30,660 And man, again, mad love for you, brother. 588 00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:32,580 Thank you so much for what you're doing out there. 589 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:35,540 Thank you guys so much. Jesse and Brandon, Thank you, 590 00:31:35,540 --> 00:31:36,580 guys. I love your show. 591 00:31:37,540 --> 00:31:39,100 Thanks. Catch you guys later. 592 00:31:39,260 --> 00:31:39,780 Take it easy.