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I'm Brandon. 
And I'm Jesse. 

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We're. 
Cannabis school having cannabis 

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infused conversations. 
With everyday. 

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People, Cannabis companies. 
Celebrities. 

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And your mom. 
Welcome to the sash. 

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So this is Utah flower. 
This is that white fire that's 

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grown from Piraplan. 
Yeah. 

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This bong here, it's really. 
Nice and it's so smooth. 

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I didn't expect it. 
I was. 

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That's exactly what our dude 
that sat in my closet for six 

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months. 
Before we even tried it and that

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just sat there for the longest 
time and finally he's like, oh, 

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we need to do it, we need to 
review it. 

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So he brought brought it down 
and we checked it out and it was

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like we have used that for 
almost every episode that is 

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flower since then. 
That thing is bitching. 

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Yeah, right. 
That flower is good. 

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Too, and it's indestructible. 
They do tests where they go up 

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on ladders and shit and throw it
on the ground. 

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So you can kill somebody with 
that. 

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Yeah, right. 
For reals. 

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I mean, the base is really heavy
on it, like about. 

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The size of a Stanley. 
Could be a weapon. 

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Like. 
It's just crazy. 

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So, yeah, Welcome to the sash. 
Yeah. 

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It's a it. 
It was a longer intro than we 

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expected, but. 
We have a chill day. 

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It's such a chill day. 
Real quick shout out before we 

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get started. 
High Rise Beverage Company These

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guys sent us these amazing CBDTN
Delta 9 seltzers. 

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For CBD and CBG Seltzer. 
Yeah, this I will tell you right

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now like this one. 
I have grapefruit CBD seltzer, 

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20 milligrams of CBD, 10 
milligrams of CBG. 

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It's tasty. 
This is this tastes like 

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grapefruit, right? 
It's like a kick of grapefruit. 

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I like that you get way more of 
those, like tart grapefruitty 

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tones. 
Well, you use the right word 

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tart 'cause it's like you can 
taste. 

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Well, I did lime so you can 
taste. 

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I was worried about lime cause 
Lime's one of those flavors that

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it's like a shitty flavor you 
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Kind of. 
Just like this is not lime and 

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this one actually is like the 
tartness of it. 

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It's like I'm taking a bite of a
lime, like I wanna, I wanna 

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chase some tequila with this. 
Dude, that's like that strain. 

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Key Lime Pie. 
Remember when we smoked that? 

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Fucking love that. 
Because it when you take that 

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first even like up to your third
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And the flour. 
Oh man, dude. 

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Miguel, if you've never, I'm 
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lemon, just goes through lime, 
goes through your mouth like a 

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Key Lime Pie, like when you eat 
a Key Lime Pie. 

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And I'm not a citrus guy when it
comes to pies. 

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What do you think, dude, that 
that that bong is? 

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I want one. 
I know right? 

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It is because like. 
Did they give us a coupon code? 

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So it took. 
Me. 

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Oh, we're gonna need it. 
Yeah, I think he did. 

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Yeah, we're gonna. 
You know what? 

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It doesn't matter. 
We're we're gonna be good 

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partners with these guys. 
We wanna help them grow. 

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We really do. 
Because it's, you know, there's 

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there's other ones that are have
like percolators and all that 

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stuff and they're glass. 
But honestly, the design of this

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has been so amazing. 
I I get really jealous, 'cause 

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it sits here. 
Brandon gets this. 

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Like Brandon, uses this all the 
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He leaves it on his mantle like 
it's a decoration piece. 

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I mean, you know, I've got that 
nice walnut wood box up there 

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full of stuff, the volcano over 
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I've got the. 
Volcano. 

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The marble stash box over on my 
one over there like. 

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You know he uses cannabis. 
The last time I hit a volcano 

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was right after college and it I
plugged it in in my Suburban and

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we did it in the car and we ate 
so many garnisala fries and it 

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was insane. 
That sounds fantastic though. 

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It was with my wife. 
It was a long time ago. 

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So it sounds like your wife's a 
big Is she still a partaker of 

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cannabis? 
She is, She is. 

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She medicates with it. 
So it's. 

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She likes the edibles, yeah. 
So she likes to eat it. 

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That's. 
Right. 

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Yeah, I remember that. 
Has that been really hard to 

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find now that you guys are in 
Texas? 

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Well, it's just me in Texas 
right now. 

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Oh. 
OK. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, they're coming. 

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They're coming up as soon as 
school's over. 

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So she she's been partaking in 
the I guess they sell them now 

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at some smoke shops, some of the
Delta 9 edibles. 

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Oh yeah, they're the ones made 
from hemp derived ones. 

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Yeah, like the oh what is it? 
Not the shroom ones. 

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The cubes. 
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Who are the Kush? 
Cubes. 

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Kush Cubes. 
I'm not sure what kind she uses,

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but she's she's wanting to get 
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medicate correctly and. 
That's a huge difference. 

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Yeah. 
And it's funny because she's 

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just like, I just want to take 
my medicine and I'm it's 

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ridiculous that I feel like I'm 
doing something illegal, right. 

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So she's she's we're about to 
get her card so she can get some

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true. 
We just went and got my 

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girlfriend her card on Tuesday. 
Yeah, go to. 

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Utah grown on Tuesdays, It's How
much is it? 

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Right across from Dragonfly 
Wellness in Salt Lake. 

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And it's $70.00 for their cost. 
And then it's the $15 state 

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licensing fee. 
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It's it lasts for a year, so. 
Are they actually giving her 

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this, the prescription or? 
Yeah, you get a card. 

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So you take that and you go to 
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choose your card. 
Before after you go there, 

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Before you can shop at any 
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and talk to the pharmacist. 
Now the pharmacist is at the 

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dispensary or the pharmacy, so 
you just have to make sure, call

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ahead and make sure that they 
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available that you can talk to 
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Once you have that first one, 
you can go to any pharmacy here 

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and you don't have to have it 
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But then they used to renew 
every six months, but now your 

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first card, it goes for the full
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So oh. 
Rad. 

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Yeah. 
So I remember hearing about the 

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six months thing. 
I'm yeah, it is insanity, right?

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Especially when it's $250, 
you're like 500 bucks in a year 

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in the balls like. 
Even though there there is 

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another competitor to Utah 
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There are a lot, but a lot of 
them are just jokes, like the 

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experience out and and I mean 
I'm not going to shit on any of 

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the dispensaries around here. 
They're decent for what they 

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have. 
Like Cure Leaf's not bad. 

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It's a national brand. 
It's great, but you don't get 

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the same experience with bud 
tenders as you do at Dragonfly. 

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Well, it and it depends on the 
bud tender like there are. 

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Yeah, I've had some really cool 
bud tenders at Cura, like that 

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one, but she's like, oh, I'm 
leaving this. 

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I'm like, what a loss. 
And my bud tender at Kira 

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yesterday was like garbage. 
It was just like she is having a

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horrible day or something, 
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stuff. 
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How can you right? 
And it's fine. 

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Like everyone has horrible days,
like people are human. 

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But at the same time, like if 
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there's certain levels of just 
you suck it up and push through 

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it. 
It's part of the job. 

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Like, I've done it, he's done 
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I'm sure you've done it. 
Like it's all just part of the 

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job. 
And it's like, all right, well, 

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it might not be the best moment 
of your life at that moment, 

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but. 
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importance of a bud tender, 
especially with it coming into 

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emerging into a new market where
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older people who've never even 
considered doing this before, 

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but now they're more open to it.
So they're going in there not 

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knowing anything. 
We're not even just older 

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people, just anybody who's not 
experienced. 

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Yeah, and the the one thing, you
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on real quick is like kind of 
take us through your journey, 

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man, 'cause you are a canisseur 
by many means, you know, I mean,

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you're a sativa whore like me. 
Sativa the better, right? 

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Well, like Jesse said, or he the
first introduction I had because

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you were heard about. 
Courtesy right, right. 

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Right. 
Was that Miguel always had his 

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stizzy around his neck, like he 
was walking around and his 

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cannabis was like right there. 
And I was like he was at that. 

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Networking event in Salt Lake. 
Yeah, it was fucking funny, 

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dude. 
Like, you had that right there. 

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And I was like, what the fuck 
This guy's like ready to go? 

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Like you. 
Just can't leave home without. 

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You're like a Batman. 
See, mine's always in a pocket 

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or something, and I've got a pen
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Think the problem with the 
pocket is it's getting better 

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now with the type of batteries 
that they're offering? 

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Yeah, less clogs. 
Well, not even the clog. 

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It's just when you had the stick
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Yeah, I've had so many break in 
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Yeah, it's like it was crazy. 
And on top of it, it's like 

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having that stick in your pocket
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Yeah. 
It really is like, you know, 

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we've had it. 
I'm sure it's like a very 

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similar, if not identical to 
Stizzy, but they have the Nova 

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batteries here, the cart seat a 
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bit nicer as far as that's 
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You never have to reseat them. 
They're perfect like. 

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Yeah, like I had a problem with 
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I had to keep receiving this 
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You don't. 
And the cool thing too is that 

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you they have this cool little 
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Like you just click it in, it'll
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stizzy, but then if you do it 
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That's rad. 
Yeah. 

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That's. 
What I mean that these batteries

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are advancing so much but the 
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And it was flat. 
That's what I loved about it. 

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And it held the charge pretty 
decent. 

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Like, it's it's one of those 
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looking at cannabis, probably 
like, I like 5/10 just 'cause 

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I'm used to em, but now, dude, 
I've got like a whole medicine 

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cabinet of different disties and
I don't use them as often. 

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Yeah, I have a ton of cart ones 
and they're all just like 

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sitting in bags and stuff. 
And I'm like, I need to review 

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that one on the show. 
I need to review that one on the

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show. 
But like, I love flower. 

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Flowers. 
Flower's my mistress, I Flower 

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is king, yeah. 
It's the the pins and carts are 

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for convenience and that's 
because I mean I I do self 

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medicate. 
I'm a very high strung 

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individual and I when I'm 
talking, when I'm sober, I find 

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myself talking a lot faster and 
my brain and mouth don't 

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communicate as well together. 
Where When I'm smoking or not 

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even smoking, just under the I 
don't even want to say under the

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influence when I medicate with 
THC. 

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When I'm elevated. 
Let's go with elevated. 

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When I'm elevated, it's yes and 
it it gives my brain time to 

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pause to where I can actually 
connect things better. 

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And then speaking on pause, how 
do you feel? 

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Amazing. 
This stuff is fire. 

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Super clear I. 
Feel it in my toes. 

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Yeah. 
That's cool. 

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Now that you're saying that I do
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Can feel it in my toes. 
We we just did a full review on 

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it. 
And but I didn't. 

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Even fucking think about my 
toes. 

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Yeah, I wasn't. 
Even thinking about them at all?

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No, it's crazy, but. 
Exactly what you said, Like you 

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know, it's one of the things 
like I coach, that's what I do. 

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I do performance and 
communication coaching now and 

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dude, I I love it. 
But I'll tell you what I'm the 

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best at what I do when I'm 
medicated, because I'm so much 

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more focused, I'm able to do 
what I do best. 

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I connect. 
I had one of the I work with 

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this company and one of their 
staff is this like, and you use 

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cannabis. 
I'm like, yeah, like when like 

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all the time. 
You mean you're on it right now.

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And I'm like, mm hmm, I'm on 
tropical. 

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I'm on. 
I'm on Tropicana cherries right 

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now. 
Great. 

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Great work strain. 
It is and it and it's it's so 

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creative. 
And this one is very close to 

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that. 
Yeah, like, see, look at that. 

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It's still it. 
Was like we were watching Modern

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Family the other night and 
there's a scene where Phil's 

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like talking about his kid and 
his kid has ADHD or the the mom 

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is. 
And and it goes into showing the

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dad doing all this shit as 
they're talking about how the 

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son has ADHD and it's just 
showing how the dad has ADHD and

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all the shit that he was 
struggling with. 

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My girlfriend turns to me and 
looks at me and she's like, Oh 

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my God, it's you. 
I was like, fuck 'cause and I 

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think about it when I sit down 
to edit or do something. 

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If I don't utilize cannabis, I 
am going doing this. 

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I'm coming back like I am not 
fucking focused. 

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I'm not sitting down. 
I'm not there. 

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I'm what's this? 
What's this? 

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My mind's here. 
I'm like and I'm not finishing 

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something, I'm like going and 
doing. 

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A contact high for me. 
Yeah, that's. 

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What it is, dude, 'cause I mean,
you notice when you're around 

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other ADHD people, like you can 
just talk forever. 

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Oh yeah, like there's there's 
no, no lull in the conversation 

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going, fuck, I ran out of things
to talk about. 

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No. 
And it's. 

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And nothing will be 
uninteresting either. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
You'll cover, like, actually 

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good topics. 
Oh well. 

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That's why my girlfriend will be
like, hey, how come you talk to 

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Jesse all the time? 
You can talk for hours. 

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You guys are on the phone for 
like hours. 

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That's like the third time. 
You talk today. 

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How come you don't talk to me 
like that? 

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I'm like I We don't talk the 
same. 

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We're different people. 
I don't know, like Jesse has a 

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very vibrant conversation, like 
he will drive an entire 

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conversation. 
She won't. 

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So it's very different when I'm 
like, OK, I can ask Jesse a 

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question and I get a 10 minute 
response. 

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I can ask you a question and I 
get a two to three word 

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response. 
So it's difficult. 

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I mean, it's it is. 
But you know, one of the things,

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like I put a lot of study into 
ADHD, 'cause I'm really into 

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people science and I wanna 
understand, like, how I how we 

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influence and motivate other 
people. 

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You know? 
And I feel that people with ADHD

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have that power, that superpower
to influence and motivate. 

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Like with what you do, you you 
work within this field where a 

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lot of people, it's so 
commoditized that it always 

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comes with fuck whatever pens, 
some hats with some shitty 

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silkscreen. 
Like dude, like, I've talked to 

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so many of those over the years.
I have no love for him. 

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Brandon knows. 
I'm like, you know what I mean? 

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Fucking whatever. 
Like, But when you know somebody

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like you, a lot of that comes 
from your superpower of cannabis

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and ADHD. 
Oh, 100%. 

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So kind of take, I mean, I I 
want to learn more about it, 

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'cause I mean, we've never 
really sat down and and got to 

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know, but why the fuck do you do
what you do? 

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Honestly, I I don't even know. 
'Cause you like it. 

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I mean, I love it, yeah. 
I mean, when I I've never met a 

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guy in your world that goes, 
fuck yeah. 

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They're doing it wrong. 
Yeah, so why are they doing it 

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wrong? 
So, I mean, it's one I 

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appreciate the people that I 
work with. 

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I'm a communicator. 
I like to connect with people 

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anyway, and then everyone I work
with ends up being friends. 

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So it's like seeing them win is 
me winning as well. 

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And there's nothing worse than 
seeing someone give out trinkets

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and trash and swag. 
I hate swag. 

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So I mean it's just that 
whenever anyone he says, oh, I 

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can't wait to give it to my kid,
I'm like and you you swung in a 

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miss and it's so simple to do 
branding correctly. 

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It just takes time to learning 
your client and what they're 

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trying to accomplish with their 
branding. 

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I mean, they spend thousands, 
hundreds of thousands of dollars

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into establishing a brand that 
they have employees and people 

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that represent the brand out in 
public and then to throw their 

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logo on a fidget spinner, it's 
like. 

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What are you? 
A. 

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Little BIC pen or something? 
I mean the pen. 

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The pen's a pen. 
Everyone uses a pen but the. 

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Pen is still 60% of a promo 
market, so you can't. 

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Yeah bro, it's probably #2 
behind the T-shirt. 

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And it's just what happens in 
branding is people in my 

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position. 
They become order takers. 

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Everyone's becoming lazy. 
They just sit behind a computer.

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They sit behind a computer and 
wait for your client to reach 

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out to you to tell you exactly 
what they want. 

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Well, it's not even just a 
relationship. 

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It's like you're waiting for 
them to tell you exactly what 

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they want and then you just 
provide that. 

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You're you're adding no value. 
And then with where the 

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relationship comes in is all 
these other branding companies 

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think that we're competing with 
each other. 

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When it's all said and done, 
we're competing with the 

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Internet. 
Anyone can sit down, upload a 

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logo, get fidgets, printers, 
journals, T-shirts, yeah. 

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But it's it's garbage though 
because most of the time like 

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you know it it's like our merch 
whenever we get like we we just 

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set up like an Etsy store you 
know Brandon's gone through 

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designed all the shirts and. 
Random shit on printful. 

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Yeah, something and it's like. 
We'll we'll come up with an idea

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and he'll create it. 
But The thing is it's the 

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quality of product that we get. 
Like once in a while like I got,

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I got my sativa days into Kenite
shirt I had We have like a 

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cheetah with with this, with a 
joint hanging out of his mouth 

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and on on the back it has a 
sloth. 

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That's red. 
With the joint coming out of his

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mouth and it's in purple, it's 
fucking rad. 

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The quality of it's really good.
But then we got another hood, we

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got T-shirts, and he got a 
really nice T-shirt and I got 

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like this shitty cotton one. 
Was like really terrible 

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quality. 
He was like, hard, almost fabric

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and like. 
But you were talking about it 

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before it's treated, and so you 
know it's always. 

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Treated it's when it comes to 
with a scratchy tease. 

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In a league of its own, you 
can't even buy that in retail 

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anymore, and people that are 
selling it are just being cheap 

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as fuck. 
Yeah, their their margins are 

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insane. 
Well, it's just like, again, 

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you're spending all this money 
on your brand. 

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But my sector, which is brand 
like branded products emerge is 

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like it's it's been commoditized
where it's like you're expecting

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trinkets and trash. 
Yeah. 

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And it's because of that buyer 
for that company. 

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That's not their job. 
They their job is putting 

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together the events that they're
going to and they're they end up

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three weeks out from the event. 
They're like, oh fuck, I need to

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order giveaways. 
I'm gonna throw this on a 

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journal, a pen and a stress. 
No thought. 

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Well, they it's not their just 
not their job. 

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Yeah. 
Where it's Yeah, that's a good 

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point. 
It's not their job. 

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Yeah, they they want stuff, but 
they just don't know what they 

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want. 
They they're not educated. 

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Where do they need to be? 
So that's where you come in. 

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Exactly where I I can tell you 
that that T-shirt, that scratchy

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T-shirt, it's 100% cotton. 
It's called Acoe cotton, which 

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means carted opened end. 
So we real quick, we're 

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switching gears on this just so 
you know. 

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Oh, this is Ice Queen. 
This is another sativa. 

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Sounds dramatic. 
I know, right? 

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It's good, but anyways, please 
continue. 

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So when they harvest the cotton,
all they do is they harvest it, 

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they throw in these vats, they 
stretch it out into yarn, and 

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then they weave your shirt 
whether whether skipping is 

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they're leaving. 
Just like weed they're leaving 

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the sticks, the stems, the 
seeds, the waste in the actual 

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fabric. 
So when that when that fabric 

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lays or that what is it called 
the fabric? 

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No, not the the the yarn lays. 
There's fibers that are standing

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up. 
Now, I already told you screen 

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printing, sure. 
It's like it doesn't naturally 

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adhere. 
So when you screen print on a 

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surface with fiber standing up, 
have you ever had a shirt that 

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has like really thick screen 
print on it? 

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The reason why they do that is 
they're trying to get those 

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fibers to lay down. 
Fucking Disney. 

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They do that shit all the time. 
It's cheap cotton and what you 

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need is a combed in ringspun 
cotton. 

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So when they harvest the cotton,
they come out all the sticks and

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stems and impurities, then they 
ring spin it, which is like 

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literally is a process like this
which gets all the fibers to lay

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down and then they weave it. 
And then typically when you do 

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the combed and ring spun cotton,
if you're doing 100% cotton, 

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it's going to be a super soft 
shirt, but it's going to shrink 

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like a motherfucker. 
Dude, nobody would fucking tell 

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me this if I went over to like 
name a fi and I'm going to shit 

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on him right now. 
I don't give a fuck. 

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Namify does that, dude. 
They don't give a shit. 

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They just throw it right in 
there. 

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Whatever your order is will hit 
it. 

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How many you need, by what date 
will hit it? 

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But that's not going into those 
steps. 

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Like, you know, it's like Under 
Armour. 

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You brought up Under Armour. 
You've worked with those guys. 

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Before, well, so I used to be 
the supplier for Under Armour 

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and Namify because of that was 
one of my clients. 

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I mean yeah I I was on that side
of the industry for a lot of so 

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starting the beginning when I I 
got into the industry is making 

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headwear. 
I made hats and I got hired by a

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company So if you wore a a 
tailor made golf hat between 

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2000 what is it 2006 and 2008 or
9. 

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I made it. 
So I was working with a lot of 

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the golfers and. 
Stuff like that. 

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My brother had definitely some 
of those then. 

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Yeah, well, I mean, it's it's a 
great brand. 

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So I was just making hats and 
and then it just kind of then I 

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morphed from there and then I 
just started joining other 

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suppliers. 
I would travel the country just 

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selling and selling and selling.
And then I just learned so much 

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over the time of my career 
working on both sides as a buyer

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for the other product as well as
the seller of the product. 

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And what I've done is married 
the two sales Rep techniques of 

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selling to the end user which 
would be the people buying from 

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Namefi and and the supplier side
who was then selling to them. 

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Because as a sales Rep when I 
was selling Under Armour and and

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stuff like and Adidas and all 
the other brands that I was 

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selling, I would get full line 
presentations explaining what I 

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just told you on why they you 
need to educate your clients and

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tell them hey for pennies to 
dollar more you can get 

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something that's not going to 
shrink, fade or peel. 

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It'll last years and still look 
good and and it'll be a great 

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piece that people continue to 
wear and not end up in the 

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drawer and end up being used to 
dry your car with because it 

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shrinks up and fades and is a 
piece of shit. 

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Dude, for sure. 
I mean, and that you just 

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explained it perfectly and and 
Brandon, I'm sure you got 

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something you want to be able to
ask as well, because I'm just 

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like, I'm just thinking about 
that. 

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Like why are guys in this field 
not doing that more? 

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But. 
Oh, it's cost. 

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00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,240
It's cheap. 
It's always margins and I. 

451
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,800
Think it's just the level of 
cost It's it's education. 

452
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,240
It's not. 
Cost at all. 

453
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:17,040
If you tell anyone who is 
buying, if you're a small 

454
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,640
company, you're still spending 
five, ten, $15,000 on this 

455
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,800
stuff. 
And if you tell somebody, hey 

456
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,440
dude, how about we buy a little 
less and I'll buy something that

457
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,640
lasts and people would wear it, 
They'll jump on that in a 

458
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,280
second. 
It's the people that are taking 

459
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,240
the orders and not educating 
them to make the right, better 

460
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,800
decision. 
Dude, that's like, but tenders 

461
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,640
and not educating them on like 
hey, here, you want the highest 

462
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,760
THC? 
No I don't. 

463
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,240
You want the best fucking 
experience. 

464
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,680
You want the entourage effect, 
You want it's education. 

465
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,640
And it's knowing who their 
client bases, who's going to be 

466
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,920
receiving these products, who's 
going to be using these 

467
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,560
products, how is your branding 
going to look on it? 

468
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,000
Now people give their branded 
product to other people and 

469
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,800
they'll put blasted left chest, 
the big old logo right there on 

470
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,280
your left chest and I'm like, yo
dude, they don't work for you 

471
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,160
bro. 
Like why you going to give them 

472
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,440
something with a billboard on 
there? 

473
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,840
They're never wear that. 
Like they're not going to 

474
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,840
represent you like they love 
you, but they don't. 

475
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,040
That's that left chest is it 
screams and screams McDonald's 

476
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,880
employee. 
Like, it's just like I'm an 

477
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,960
employee where if you have like 
a nice jacket and switch out the

478
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,600
zipper pulls and that's the 
branding and just that branding 

479
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,440
is on there. 
It's a lot smaller, but the 

480
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,120
person you give it to will see 
that branding more, know where 

481
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,640
it came from. 
Well, I I like that a lot more 

482
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600
because I've had cool watches, 
I've gotten Ray Bans and other 

483
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,680
things from companies and I'm 
like, either their land, their 

484
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,560
brand is just fine. 
It's simple, it's small, it's 

485
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,520
not taking over the entire 
thing. 

486
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280
Or again, like you said, now I'm
a fucking employee. 

487
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,880
I don't work for your company. 
And they do that because again, 

488
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,720
the person buying the stuff 
doesn't know any better. 

489
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:02,200
They just say, here's the logo, 
put it on it, get us some stuff.

490
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,000
And the easiest place to 
decorate are these like left 

491
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,880
chest. 
I'm not thinking about it. 

492
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,800
Where is like, instead of 
getting to know the branding 

493
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,120
line like, yo dude, like, let's 
this is going to clients, let's 

494
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,840
let's brand this with a woven 
Taco tag on the sleeve and just 

495
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,160
that's it, they'll wear it. 
It's like the alligator on 

496
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,120
Lacoste. 
Yeah, like it's very different. 

497
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,480
It's small. 
Exactly. 

498
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,040
But yet it's still their brand. 
Well, it's prevalent. 

499
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,280
It's it's branding. 
It's treating a business as if 

500
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,360
they are a clothing brand rather
than. 

501
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,880
Dude, what a great one line. 
Right, Yeah. 

502
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,760
What a great line. 
Yeah, it's just treating them 

503
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,200
like or not even just clothing. 
It's just as if they are a 

504
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,680
brand. 
Yeah, but that's the thing 

505
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,160
though. 
And I don't wear even though 

506
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
like I I don't care about 
brands, which is funny because 

507
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,360
I'm I was so deep into marketing
for a very long time, very much 

508
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:56,760
still so, but. 
Sorry, I realized I had that in 

509
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,680
my lap for a long time. 
No. 

510
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,960
Dude, who gives a shit? 
Dude, we're good, you're 

511
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,280
chatting, But The thing is like 
when you're when you have these 

512
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,400
brands that you wear, it's 
exactly that. 

513
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,280
Like if I'm wearing a shitty 
shirt that just has their 

514
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,000
company name all over it, I'm 
going to use that for the gym 

515
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,920
and I might not. 
That's like giving it good. 

516
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,480
Yeah, seriously. 
Like. 

517
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,120
If you wore it to the gym. 
Like honestly, like the cannabis

518
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,400
brands we've worked with and 
they send us T-shirts, like I 

519
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,120
wear that shit to the to the gym
and there's like only one that I

520
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,400
like, really like wearing. 
And it's just because they've 

521
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,080
taken that time to find good 
material utilizing their brand 

522
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,200
on there. 
Their brand feels like, I mean, 

523
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,440
even though it's like a little. 
No. 

524
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,000
Who's the one that you like 
cycling? 

525
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,200
Frog. 
Oh yeah. 

526
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,600
Like cannabis is OK. 
I like their fabric on on 

527
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,560
cannabis, their fabric is soft. 
It is soft, but still it's like,

528
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,720
it's just like what you said. 
I'm your fucking billboard and 

529
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,680
it's I'm not, I'm not a I'm not 
a super big fan of the cannabis 

530
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,880
as far as how they've done 
business and all these other 

531
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,240
things, but it's a good looking 
brand. 

532
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,280
It's done poorly. 
It's clean, but yeah, again, 

533
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,440
it's the. 
It's not a mixed. 

534
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,040
If you're a big old walking 
billboard like. 

535
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,640
I would rather look like a 
brand. 

536
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,600
Yeah, it's. 
Cool. 

537
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,560
If you have like a nice soft 
dope tea or something and it's, 

538
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,880
you know, Tiny Brand, it's. 
Give your clients a brand, not a

539
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,960
billboard. 
And then the people that are 

540
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,960
also uneducated that they're 
selling to the buyer, their 

541
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,760
their, the buyer, all they know 
we want something high quality. 

542
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,440
I hear that every time I need 
something high quality, I need 

543
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,640
something high quality, which is
obviously makes sense. 

544
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Obviously the person hearing 
that most of those people 

545
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,800
selling a branded product to 
them, that just means, OK, a 

546
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,560
more expensive brand. 
Travis Matthews. 

547
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,880
It's like, fuck dude, how much 
technology can really go into a 

548
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,240
Polo? 
It's like, yeah, Travis Matthews

549
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,120
is a Gray Polo. 
Don't get me wrong, I don't want

550
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,560
to discredit that Polo 
whatsoever, but it's going to be

551
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,880
like a $7580 polo where you can 
get a comparable polo as long as

552
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,200
you take your time and find one 
at a fraction of that cost 

553
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,080
without the Travis Matthew Brand
and. 

554
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,560
Because then you're paying for 
the name, not just the quality, 

555
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,800
but then the. 
Buyer is going to because you 

556
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,960
believe that the name brand 
makes it a better brand. 

557
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,200
The buyer then feels that same 
fucking way too. 

558
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,960
So then like, yeah, more Travis 
Matthews, more Travis Matthews 

559
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,200
in it. 
And then you can just like 

560
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,680
everyone's wearing Travis 
Matthews because that's like the

561
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,000
best shirt and it's like, no, 
it's like get to get to know 

562
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,240
your brand. 
We can if you give them time and

563
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,960
it's also getting your getting 
your buyer on a schedule. 

564
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,440
It's like if you're not selling 
Christmas now, you're missing 

565
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,760
out because that inventory ain't
gonna be there in the fourth 

566
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,640
quarter. 
Yeah, damn dude. 

567
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,280
Like the way you're explaining 
it, like this. 

568
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,120
This line keeps popping in my 
head. 

569
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,600
Like, treat your clients like a 
give your clients a brand, not a

570
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,080
billboard. 
Like it's taking your time and 

571
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,480
scheduling it out and. 
'Cause you wear nice shit if you

572
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,960
like it and if it's like just 
got somebody's company name on 

573
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,120
there and you just love it? 
Fuck it. 

574
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,240
Let's take a step back. 
Let's not even say people who 

575
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,800
give the apparel late your 
employees. 

576
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,240
Yeah, if you want your employees
to wear this. 

577
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,040
Look at Sharp 100. 
Percent, 'cause I'm like every 

578
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,400
company, They're like here, 
here's our swag and then I'm 

579
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,520
like or do you see not wearing 
this shit? 

580
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,680
Yeah, this is literally 99% of 
swag becomes my kids pajamas. 

581
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,080
I mean, you guys want this 
T-shirt? 

582
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,640
Ohh fuck yeah, I love free 
T-shirt. 

583
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,840
I'm gonna put it on like. 
If it if it's I'm giving this to

584
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,080
my kid. 
What the fuck? 

585
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,560
Your kids not gonna buy from me?
No, that's. 99% of the swag that

586
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,160
I get goes to my kids. 
I I used to run an agency with 

587
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,960
this guy and he had this brand 
called site Smash and it was a 

588
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,720
web development company and it 
it was a cool looking, fun 

589
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280
brand. 
It kind of reminded me like what

590
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:50,280
was that 80s game? 
It was like after the running 

591
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,000
man. 
Do you remember this game? 

592
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Like it was this game that was 

593
00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,840
kind of like that and it had 
this, like computer, 1980s big 

594
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,000
letter brand. 
It was it's cool looking, right?

595
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,920
But it made no sense because 
somebody asked Site smash. 

596
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Like what's that? 
Oh, we break websites. 

597
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,880
Do you produce websites? 
Part of it, And we're mostly a 

598
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,320
marketing agency now, but we 
used to be a web dev agency, so 

599
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,000
that made sense. 
So there's disconnect. 

600
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,280
But the brand was so ambiguous. 
I was about to say I drew 

601
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,880
someone's attention that they 
asked. 

602
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Yeah, but even then it was, but 
it was, it was just, I wanted to

603
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,240
see it in different ways. 
Because The thing is that 

604
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,760
anytime another person had that 
shirt, they never wore it. 

605
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,960
They just never, they didn't 
even wear it to the gym, just 

606
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,280
like you said. 
And it was high quality. 

607
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,200
And we did it in some trade with
another guy who all he does is 

608
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,360
like, oh, you need a ball and 
pen. 

609
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,800
You need a bowling trophy. 
I got them. 

610
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960
And you want a backpack. 
I'll put it on anything. 

611
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,280
And you're just like, fuck, I 
don't. 

612
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,440
I and I don't wear. 
I didn't, I didn't even want to 

613
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,600
wear. 
I only wore it to the gym. 

614
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,720
I didn't wear it out. 
And hundreds of thousands of 

615
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,040
dollars is getting dumped into 
this. 

616
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,560
I mean, I had clients spending 
all the time, millions of 

617
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,280
dollars in their branding, 
'cause they're such a big 

618
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,560
company and it's like you got to
do it to where you're not this 

619
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,280
stuff. 
You can't have this stuff ending

620
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,000
up in the trash. 
Yeah, and it's like if. 

621
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,040
You have this, That's all 
exactly where it goes. 

622
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,680
It's like, cool, We just spent 
$100,000, couple $1,000,000 and 

623
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,040
it's just throwing it away, 
yeah. 

624
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,440
It's like you look at these like
you know, even taking like fast 

625
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,080
food chains, right? 
You can tell the ones, the big 

626
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,920
ones, they invest that money 
into their into their apparel, 

627
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,800
because it needs to be 
consistent. 

628
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,400
No matter where you go. 
If you're in a Chick-fil-A in 

629
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,000
Utah or in California or 
somewhere in the Midwest, same 

630
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,720
fucking shirt. 
It's like in and out. 

631
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,480
They all have the exact same 
uniform. 

632
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,760
You have to. 
And. 

633
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,800
And that consistency is so 
strong. 

634
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Yeah, exactly. 
That's their brand. 

635
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,560
And people want, like when you 
have a sense of pride about your

636
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,560
brand, other people want to wear
that because it's this weird 

637
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,600
tribalism that's ingrained in 
us. 

638
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,280
But that's just part of 
tribalism. 

639
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,440
It's who do you belong to? 
What tribe? 

640
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,240
Like, like, you know, Eric Dahl.
No, I don't. 

641
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,600
You gotta meet him. 
He's a cool guy, but that guy is

642
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,320
a Nike fanatic. 
Everything is fucking Nike, 

643
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,440
dude. 
Dress shoes, Nike jacket. 

644
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,160
Nike shirt. 
Nike pants. 

645
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,920
Nike underwear. 
Motherfucking Nike. 

646
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480
More than likely, right? 
But I'll tell you this The funny

647
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,160
thing you know the the shoe 
company, Kizik. 

648
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,360
Oh yeah, for sure, right? 
It's OK. 

649
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,760
I'm not. 
Not my, not my I've. 

650
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,120
Never worn a pair. 
It's all right, but Eric was 

651
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,120
given a pair calling out. 
Eric probably didn't even listen

652
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,200
to this. 
Fuck. 

653
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Yeah, no, no, I don't know. 
He's not a he's not a cannabis 

654
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,280
consumer right now, but. 
Here's You don't need to be a 

655
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,000
cannabis. 
You just listen. 

656
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,200
Listen, bro. 
But the the cool part is that he

657
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,920
gets this. 
This just talks to like your 

658
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,520
clients and and why they would 
be. 

659
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,440
They want that A presence is he 
loves the Nike brand so much he 

660
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,240
was given a really nice pair of 
Kizzix, great pair and from 

661
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,120
their CMO. 
He takes them home, he puts them

662
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,560
on, he goes, well it's nice, OK,
takes them off, puts them in a 

663
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,880
box, puts his Nike shoes back 
on. 

664
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,040
Next morning he goes to the gym.
There's this old guy there and 

665
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,360
he goes, hey, I got you 
something. 

666
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560
He wouldn't wear them. 
Yeah, he gave him the shoes. 

667
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,760
He wouldn't wear them because I 
said why? 

668
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,800
And he goes it's not Nike. 
They're not Nike. 

669
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,240
Like when you have such a 
strong, like you got to think 

670
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,080
about it. 
All these clothing brands may 

671
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,320
have started as something else 
and your company could be in 

672
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
apparel blank 'cause you take 
those. 

673
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,440
I mean, same fabrics, you know, 
different designs, but you know 

674
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,920
what? 
There's a different intent and 

675
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,920
it's what you feel when you wear
it. 

676
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Creates that coat following. 
It's like Apple. 

677
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,040
Yep, and. 
Then it's like, I mean what 

678
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,360
you're saying when you're 
feeling it and it's clothing is 

679
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,720
like that specifically. 
And then also people in my shoes

680
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,600
that I compete with and stuff, 
it's they get so tainted because

681
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,160
they're surrounded by it all the
time. 

682
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,840
They forget on how personal 
clothing really is. 

683
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,880
I mean when you give it to 
somebody, it's on their body, 

684
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,440
it's touching their skin. 
They chances are they will not 

685
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,240
wear it if they don't feel good 
in it. 

686
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,640
And yeah, I mean it's and that's
it's a big connector. 

687
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,200
It's like if you feel good 
you'll you'll work good too. 

688
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,080
And it's just, I just don't 
understand. 

689
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,960
Well, I mean, I do understand. 
I mean, the whole market turned 

690
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,920
into swag and shit because 
people got lazy. 

691
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680
I love that, man. 
I have totally converted. 

692
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,840
I mean, I I would never ever 
tell anybody that you do swag. 

693
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,280
And until this conversation, I 
would have, because that's just 

694
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,960
a nomenclature that's been 
placed into the society. 

695
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,640
Trash dude. 
And it's funny because everyone 

696
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,400
I work with client wise, I say 
the same thing to every time. 

697
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,840
And I always say we're not gonna
make swag and shit and they'll 

698
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,680
slip sometimes. 
Hey, we go, I need to order some

699
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,440
swag. 
I mean, I mean Brandon Mertz. 

700
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,199
I'm like, no, no, no, no, it's 
OK. 

701
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,719
Yeah, it's what you know. 
But at the same time, like 

702
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120
there's a difference because, 
you know, you talk about these 

703
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,719
events and I got to give shit 
away. 

704
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,280
I don't want to give things away
that I I I don't want to feel 

705
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,040
like I'm giving something away. 
I'm giving them value. 100%, 

706
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,880
Well, it's representing your 
business, especially as a 

707
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,280
business owner, I mean. 
That would be cool. 

708
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,600
Like you're on the golf course, 
you're wearing like a slick Polo

709
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,800
T that's been branded correctly.
And that guy, every time you see

710
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,440
him out there on the green, 
you're like, dude, you're 

711
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,800
wearing my company shirt. 
Like I wouldn't even fucking say

712
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,320
anything. 
I wouldn't have to the. 

713
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,159
Guy who's wearing it knows where
he got it from, right? 

714
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,000
Guy or woman? 
And honestly? 

715
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,159
How many times did you see 
someone wearing a dope shirt? 

716
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,960
A dope pants. 
Like you. 

717
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440
Ask them about it. 
You're never seeing someone 

718
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,800
wearing, like, work merch that 
you're like, fuck bro, where'd 

719
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,360
you get that? 
You got to hook me up, dude. 

720
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560
Like no one says that. 
I'll tell you right now, dude, I

721
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,240
got this. 
I got these little hats from 

722
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,520
Amazon, right? 
And and because I'm just cheap 

723
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,120
fuck. 
And I need to just get a scally,

724
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,320
but, but I'll let you get one. 
I've got like a bunch of them. 

725
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,880
They're hanging on my wall. 
Spent $100 on a hoodie. 

726
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,840
I mean, you can just fork out. 
For sure. 

727
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,240
But yeah, well, I mean, these 
ones are like 20 bucks. 

728
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,920
But I'll tell you what, the one 
I get compliments on all the 

729
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,160
time is the one I got from Team 
Oh. 

730
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,400
Oh my God, it's probably like 5 
bucks. 7 bucks. 

731
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,000
I can't buy anything off a team.
No, I just don't get ripped. 

732
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:35,800
Off. 
No, dude. 

733
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,040
Like I've I've I've got one time
it was like what the fuck. 

734
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,880
But that's this little hat. 
I got it and I was just like 

735
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,960
because I I didn't know if I I 
would this would look good on me

736
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,320
or anything. 
And so I was like, all right 

737
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,320
I'll, I'll give it a shot $5 
team Moo. 

738
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,240
And I get it and I wear it and 
the guys are like, dude, cool 

739
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,920
hat and I'm like. 
It's got the more of these. 

740
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,960
It's got this like weird little 
metal eagle type thing right 

741
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,520
here and people go, what is 
that? 

742
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,920
And I just make up a story all 
the time. 

743
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,320
I'm like, oh, it's for my Aztec 
culture. 

744
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,400
And they go oh really? 
And I'm like, yeah, you know, 

745
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,040
you know, Montezuma, like it all
goes the way back to that. 

746
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,120
My family, like up there and 
they go, they are like really? 

747
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,320
I'm like, no, dude, this is just
on the hat. 

748
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,600
I don't fucking know. 
But. 

749
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,800
Dude, that's super funny. 
So with you traveling for work 

750
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,920
all the time, are you like, has 
been finding cannabis been a 

751
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,960
real struggle around everywhere?
So it never really has been. 

752
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,000
So I I've lived all over the 
country since since high school.

753
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,360
I played football in Louisiana. 
That's where I went to school. 

754
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,040
I stayed out there for a while. 
I lived in Nashville. 

755
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,080
I'm toying with the idea of 
moving to Texas and staying in 

756
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,560
Texas. 
I'm probably going to be there. 

757
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:51,800
And Northern California Now, 
Utah and everywhere I've gone, 

758
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,640
I've always found a connection. 
Immediately. 

759
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,200
I mean true stoners find each. 
Other Oh yeah, they really like 

760
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,560
Jedis. 
They really feel the Force. 

761
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,520
They really eat in their eyes. 
I mean, I had connects just 

762
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,720
because I would fly to Chicago 
every year for a trade show do 

763
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,120
with work. 
I mean shout out to my boy 

764
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,160
Darian. 
I'm sure you're not while 

765
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,480
listening to this, but I'll send
it to you. 

766
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,000
But it's funny, he was skating 
down the street and I was 

767
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,680
walking down the street and I 
and this is downtown Chicago and

768
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,600
I stopped him And straight up 
I'm like, yo, dude, First off 

769
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:30,080
I'm not a cop but you look like 
a dude who would smoke. 

770
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,400
Yeah. 
Can you make a connection? 

771
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,480
And he's like, bro, I got you. 
And yeah, he gave me his number.

772
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,920
I hit him up when I was in the 
trade shows finishing up. 

773
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,960
He's like, all right bro, I'll 
pick you up outside. 

774
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,880
And he rolled up in a fucking 
car that looked like the car 

775
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,400
from training day but with like 
30 inch rims. 

776
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,880
System just blaring and I'm 
walking out of like at this 

777
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,080
time. 
This is when you still dress up 

778
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,280
nice with trade shows, 'cause 
I'm fucking that old. 

779
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,200
But I walked out and I'm like, 
I'm about to jump in this car. 

780
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,800
Sure, sure. 
Where are we going? 

781
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,880
Right, dude, that's. 
So funny that. 

782
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,160
What a random ass encounter, 
dude. 

783
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,160
And then all of a sudden, 
fucking Batman rolls. 

784
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,360
Up knowing Homie now for like 16
years. 

785
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,840
Yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

786
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,280
That's why he's a rapper now, 
dude. 

787
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,200
He's killing. 
What? 

788
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Oh yeah. 
That's so cool. 

789
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,400
And he's from, he was actually 
from Nashville and that I was 

790
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,840
living in Tennessee at the time,
so. 

791
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,240
What? 
What? 

792
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,840
What's his name? 
Darian. 

793
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,960
Darian. 
Yeah, OK, dude, you got have to 

794
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,760
share with us. 
We got it. 

795
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,320
We got to put that on on the 
notes down there. 

796
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,160
Go listen to Darian music. 
Or something. 

797
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,840
Yeah, dude, he puts out videos 
all the time. 

798
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,680
Dude. 
He's a good dude. 

799
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,160
Hell yeah, dude. 
We'll we'll blow them up because

800
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,360
we got we're all over, dude. 
We're in 86 different countries 

801
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,200
and fucking all over the US and 
all North America. 

802
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,120
So yeah, and South America. 
Holy shit, we're everywhere. 

803
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,360
But yeah, dude, that's so cool. 
What a that's such a cool thing 

804
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,600
too, man. 
Like you meet people like that 

805
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,000
all. 
Over the country. 

806
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
You imagine what celebrities you
can meet and if you just met 

807
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,040
chance encounter and didn't be 
like a a fucking weirdo around 

808
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,600
them, go oh, what's it like 
pretending all the time like, I 

809
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,000
don't know, ask any guy who 
cheats on his wife all the time.

810
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Same fucking thing, right. 
It's just like, Oh yeah, well, 

811
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,520
you know what it's like to be an
actor? 

812
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,560
Just cheat on your spouse. 
Yeah, you read it right. 

813
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:21,880
That's. 
Crazy. 

814
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,280
But you would you would chill 
with them. 

815
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,600
Like honestly, if you just, you 
know, you pick almost any 

816
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,200
celebrity and we're doing 
something like this right now, 

817
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,080
how chill do you get with 
somebody else, like and the 

818
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,600
connection you get? 
Oh yeah, but that's oh, going 

819
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,080
back to your question about 
finding weed, it's always, it's 

820
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,920
always been good. 
But Texas recently has been 

821
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,400
fucking difficult, right? 
Yeah, you're saying you're doing

822
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,000
like. 
Thca and so I I self medicated. 

823
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,880
I started smoking weed heavily 
when I kicked my Xanax. 

824
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,480
So yeah yeah I I well I've 
always smoked. 

825
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,240
I've been smoking since I was 14
and I remember like I had a 

826
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,480
highlighter I used to hide my 
hide my weed in the inside of my

827
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,520
highlighter. 
And keep. 

828
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,360
Right. 
And but I didn't get really 

829
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,080
heavy into it until, like I was 
like on Xanax and it just wasn't

830
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,320
good for me at all. 
And then I just started smoking.

831
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,360
And again, like I said earlier, 
just one of those things that it

832
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,840
really makes me normal, like I 
don't have trouble carrying 

833
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,920
conversations, I don't have 
trouble working, presenting, 

834
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,720
remembering what I know. 
It actually helps me articulate 

835
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:39,000
it so I can get it out and 
explain it better to my clients.

836
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,280
So if any of the clients are 
listening, just know I'm stoned 

837
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,040
every time we spoke to each 
other. 

838
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,680
But it's just that's how I get 
creative and that's that's how I

839
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,120
I. 
That's how I connect. 

840
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,760
Yeah and and you connect 
somebody with about their brand 

841
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,360
cause again dude, the brand is 
so important that is that is the

842
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,240
identity of your business. 
Yeah, it's it's what I used to 

843
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,720
say a lot when I talk with my 
clients like you don't have, you

844
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,360
don't have a brand until your 
customer tells you you do. 

845
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,320
And so you need to put in that 
time to when you present your 

846
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,760
brand to do so in the most 
thoughtful manner as possible. 

847
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,280
And the best way to be able to 
do that is not rely upon 

848
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,360
yourself. 
You need to seek outside 

849
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,920
counsel. 
Is he all out? 

850
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,200
But I just didn't have the lungs
for it. 

851
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,560
You're. 
Good. 

852
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,320
I'm good. 
I'm so good right now. 

853
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,720
Solid now too. 
Yeah, the ice queen hits a 

854
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,280
little harder. 
Not as much in the toes, it's in

855
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,360
my head. 
Yeah. 

856
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,320
Yep, it's a oh dude, It's a 
really nice sativa strain. 

857
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,560
If you guys haven't listened to 
that episode, go listen to that 

858
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,240
one. 
But yeah man, it's it's gotta. 

859
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,680
It's like a fine wine, bro. 
Listen to us. 

860
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,000
It's, you know, it's got an oaky
flavor. 

861
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I really like Ice Queen. 

862
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,240
Surprisingly, that one's been a 
really good, like daytime one or

863
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:04,040
even end of night one. 
In higher doses. 

864
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,800
I found that I really enjoy that
one too. 

865
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,840
Yeah, I'm just so nice. 
It's been a nice blend having 

866
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,000
both of them because it's now 
really grounded. 

867
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,280
I mean, I've been, I've been 
drinking this thing. 

868
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,480
I am really impressed with this.
Divine's toasted. 

869
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:17,920
It was. 
Good. 

870
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,480
So I love the flavor on that 
this blueberry's been. 

871
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,680
Super tasty. 
I love their flavor profiles 

872
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,840
100% and it's a nice. 
Kind of combination to tell you 

873
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,600
saucers can taste like. 
Shit. 

874
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,720
Fuck yeah, I would say 99% of 
them taste like shit cannabis. 

875
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:36,400
Seltzers or seltzers? 
OK, yeah, I'm not. 

876
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,680
A big seltzer person. 
Shitty. 

877
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,240
Have you ever had a press? 
Yeah, I think those. 

878
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:42,760
Are fucking delicious. 
Don't give me that look. 

879
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,400
Is that is that is that? 
The alcohol ones judgment, I'm 

880
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,720
not a big. 
Seltzer person with. 

881
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,880
Alcohol. 
I like some beers. 

882
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Scotch. 
Basically, he's saying he 

883
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,520
doesn't like bitch. 
Drinks. 

884
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,680
So I can't. 
Drink beer. 

885
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,280
I I drink. 
I used to drink beer by like 20 

886
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:06,560
KS, and now that I'm fucking 
old, it's just like, I have one 

887
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,200
beer. 
I'm destroyed. 

888
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,600
If I have six. 
I'm in the shower naked, 

889
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,320
throwing up all over myself. 
Dude, I would. 

890
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,760
That sounds like a great. 
I've been found that way. 

891
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,040
Shit just off of. 
Beer. 

892
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,760
Bro, beer just destroys me. 
But give me a bottle of vodka. 

893
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,360
I'll drink the whole thing down 
to the ground and I'll talk to 

894
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120
you. 
Or tequila too. 

895
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,600
I don't drink like I used to. 
It's like that hard alcohol. 

896
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,920
Is exactly. 
Don't get me wrong, I don't want

897
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,240
to drink the whole bottle. 
Yeah, yeah. 

898
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Yeah. 
No, no. 

899
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,760
But exactly. 
That it's just it it it 

900
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,440
processes differently. 
That's why he he doesn't just 

901
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,760
eat when he does drink. 
He's not drinking shitty stuff. 

902
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,880
He wants high end Scotch. 
He he's developed a taste for 

903
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,560
Scotch. 
I can't fucking say you can't. 

904
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,040
Bust out a nice glass and make 
your little ice cube circle 

905
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,040
sphere. 
There's times where that's not 

906
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,280
available and you're on the 
river and or something like 

907
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,720
that. 
I know, but then you get like a.

908
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:59,160
Good Devastator. 
Like 8 or 9%? 

909
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,240
It's by Wasatch Brewery. 
But what kind is it? 

910
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,080
What? 
Kind of. 

911
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,840
It's Amber. 
Bock. 

912
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,680
No, no, it's not an amber Bock. 
It's thick as it's a it's a dark

913
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,720
beer, that one. 
So you need a fork and a like. 

914
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Like 1/2 advising. 
You ever had a heff? 

915
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,520
Heff's OK, but it's just like. 
Those beers I like Ipas. 

916
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,520
I'm a weird. 
Fucker. 

917
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,320
Yeah. 
Did you need to like you need a?

918
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,160
Fork and knife, but I drink 
that. 

919
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,320
I only have those like. 
Once it's heavy, every blue 

920
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,400
moon. 
It's thick, that's what. 

921
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,360
I'm seeing it destroys like. 
Blue moons are Heff and Visin. 

922
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,320
But the best Heff and Visin. 
Why do you say everything like 

923
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:30,960
that? 
Are you German? 

924
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,280
No, no. 
Then knock it off. 

925
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,480
Well, I It just comes out that 
way, dude. 

926
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,440
I I I totally agree though, 
because I mean, it's like, you 

927
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,520
know with your last name. 
Is that Martinez? 

928
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,920
Yeah, since I. 
Sound so Spanish Angeles, right?

929
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,400
It's Angeles. 
Angeles. 

930
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,760
Yeah, right. 
It's just like. 

931
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Look. 
You heard my voice fucking. 

932
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,080
What? 
I hate that every time. 

933
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,800
Just see Angeles and it's like, 
dude, you're like, bro, I'm over

934
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,160
here. 
Yeah, I get in the quell like I.

935
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,760
Don't even wow quell I get QS 
as. 

936
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,640
Geez dude, people really have a 
hard time. 

937
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Let's say writing no. 
Let's just say yeah. 

938
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,960
Like people have a hard time 
reading. 

939
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,080
They're like, oh fuck, what does
that say? 

940
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,720
I mean, proper pronunciation's 
pretty simple if you learned 

941
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:19,040
using it that far, like. 
Are we really getting that far 

942
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,920
where people are struggling to 
read like that? 

943
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,600
No, dude, it's been going 
forever, dude. 

944
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,000
When I. 
Was in the Navy to read. 

945
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,080
I didn't. 
I didn't report to my duty 

946
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,880
section for two weeks because 
they'd call over the the 

947
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,000
intercom system over there. 
Fireman Angeles report to the 

948
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,160
corner deck. 
That just doesn't even sound. 

949
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,720
Right. 
No. 

950
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,080
And so this guy goes, hey, 
that's. 

951
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,600
You and I'm like, no, I'm 
Angeles. 

952
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,200
That's Angeles. 
I don't know who that guy is, 

953
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,480
but he's probably in trouble and
they're like, you're going to 

954
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,000
get so much shit. 
And I'm like, I don't fucking 

955
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,280
care And that they just just 
because I go over there and you 

956
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,640
have to, you hold out your card,
go permission to go ashore and 

957
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,960
they go, permission granted. 
Nobody looked at my card. 

958
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,800
They just saw that I had a green
military card until like 2 weeks

959
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,280
later and this non commissioned 
officer was waiting for me at 

960
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,280
the at the. 
He was waiting for me to get off

961
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,720
the brow from the quarter deck 
and I walk over there and I said

962
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:10,680
permission to go to shore and he
goes, what's that sailor's name?

963
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,120
And he goes, it's Fireman 
Angeles and I said. 

964
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,280
No, I'm fireman. 
Angeles not fireman Angeles. 

965
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,120
I don't know who that guy is and
they go and and the senior 

966
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,640
chief, he goes, Are you telling 
me that you haven't reported the

967
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,200
duty in two weeks because we 
can't pronounce your last name? 

968
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,480
I said it's not my fault. 
Navy's full of a bunch of 

969
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,920
illiterates. 
Come with me, dude. 

970
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,000
I bought the fucking. 
Deck from the front of the ship 

971
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,880
all the way to the aft, like it 
from the. 

972
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,360
Forward to. 
The AFT I I I I was. 

973
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,400
I was in so much shit. 
But it was fucking worth support

974
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,400
people's brand. 
Just care. 

975
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,200
About their brand. 
Don't let them actually having a

976
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,120
brand, yeah. 
Say no, because. 

977
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,560
You would never just say no to 
merch, just. 

978
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,160
I mean just. 
Swag Say no to swag I mean. 

979
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,680
And you can call, You can call. 
It swag, it's just care about 

980
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,400
other people's brands and if you
just do that in the product that

981
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,840
you give and then going back, we
were talking cost if you do it 

982
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,280
correctly due to scheduling. 
If you start early, it tends to 

983
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,800
be cheaper than going that cheap
swag and trash way. 

984
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,200
Because again, like I was 
telling you, you get that swag 

985
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,880
and trash when the event, the 
event marketer or the marketing 

986
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,720
person is putting the entire 
event together, they're now 

987
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,800
three weeks away from the event 
and I'm using, I'm using three 

988
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,480
weeks, 'cause it's fucking 
consistent. 

989
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,600
They're three weeks away from 
that phone call. 

990
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,880
Yeah, you got bro. 
That's why you smoke so much. 

991
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,960
It's fucking he's. 
Like, oh fucking clients call it

992
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,440
again. 
Well. 

993
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,000
No, I don't even have to be 
that, he just. 

994
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,320
He he reads their mind and it's 
in three weeks, right? 

995
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,520
What? 
How did you know? 

996
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,400
Well, if they're working with me
now, I have an event. 

997
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,840
Calendar. 
I've reached out to them four 

998
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,120
months before the event. 
Oh, so you know. 

999
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:05,960
Yes, 'cause I'm going to reach 
out to. 

1000
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,720
Them 'cause. 
I'm adding value 'cause I want 

1001
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:11,080
to I need to beat that computer.
I need to make sure what I can 

1002
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,960
do that computer can't well and 
if you were ahead of time going.

1003
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,680
Hey, I know you have this event 
coming up. 

1004
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,080
Let's get you some, like, really
quality shit instead of some 

1005
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,320
actual shit. 
Yeah, And now we have time to. 

1006
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,440
Get a sample in your hands to 
see if it's something that you 

1007
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,080
really want. 
Now we have time to like create 

1008
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,840
a decoration method that's 
fucking bitching or custom 

1009
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,560
packaging, that's fucking bitch.
And we have time to go back and 

1010
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,520
forth with your artwork to make 
it look good because we started 

1011
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,600
early and we're fucking cruising
like it and then doing it that 

1012
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,400
way it's ends up again being 
cheaper because now we're not 

1013
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,880
rushing product. 
Now I can't. 

1014
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,720
I'm not struggling to find 
somewhere to find this shit from

1015
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,240
to get it here in time to 
decorate it for you and get it 

1016
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,840
because you're giving me 3 
fucking weeks and you want it to

1017
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,920
look amazing. 
But. 

1018
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,280
But. 
Again, it's not that person's. 

1019
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,240
Fault they're they've been. 
Busy putting this entire. 

1020
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,080
Event together. 
Which I'm sure, and I'm just 

1021
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,320
using events as an example, but 
and I'm sure it's beautiful, but

1022
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,840
they're not. 
Swag is the last thing on their 

1023
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,560
mind which is why we're three 
weeks out. 

1024
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,920
Oh shit man. 
I need to give something away. 

1025
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,440
And then if they order it 
themselves, which they probably 

1026
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,920
will, or reach out and tell 
somebody who said OK, what do 

1027
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,120
you want? 
Well that's why I'm calling you.

1028
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,720
OK, what do you want? 
Yeah, they have no idea. 

1029
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,040
They. 
Haven't given it thought because

1030
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,360
it's not, like you said, it's 
not their job, so now I'm 

1031
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,400
putting it back on. 
You that you're already stressed

1032
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,640
out three weeks from your event.
I mean, what do you want instead

1033
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,360
of like, OK, dude, your events. 
If we're three weeks out, what's

1034
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,520
our budget? 
How many people? 

1035
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,560
What are we trying to 
accomplish? 

1036
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Just know we don't have time for
a sample. 

1037
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,720
We might not even have time for 
art approval because we're three

1038
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:49,880
weeks out. 
But this event's every year. 

1039
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,360
Perfect. 
This isn't going to happen next 

1040
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,920
year, yeah, but at the same. 
Time being able to trust you on 

1041
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,040
that one. 
Like, hey, look like all the 

1042
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,800
things that you may be used to, 
like all the proof and all that.

1043
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,080
And like, that's a big scary 
thing too, 'cause you don't want

1044
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,840
to get something that comes back
looking like ass, but that's how

1045
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,880
it have time. 
But that's how it happens when. 

1046
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,480
You don't have time. 
But at the same time like you. 

1047
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,240
You giving them that preface of 
saying, like, look, I'm going to

1048
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:15,800
just, we're going to get this 
ship signed and delivered, 

1049
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,240
'cause we just need to make sure
that it's on top. 

1050
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:19,800
But you need to trust me on that
one. 

1051
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,680
I'm going to make the best 
decision for you so you don't 

1052
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,800
need to go through all this 
cycle. 

1053
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,720
Was it going to look good? 
It needs to be like this. 

1054
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,360
Great. 
You should have called me months

1055
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,360
ago. 
Yeah, well, that's the thing. 

1056
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,400
No, they shouldn't have called 
you months ago. 

1057
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,960
You should have called them 
months ago. 

1058
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,120
If you're their person, yes. 
Dude, Because again, the 

1059
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,360
Internet. 
'S not going to call them months

1060
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,120
ago. 
Yeah. 

1061
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,440
No. 
And that's where I. 

1062
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,960
Mean. 
That's why I'm saying like they 

1063
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,200
they need to understand that 
person who's being able to help 

1064
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,800
them if they're working and then
brand Merck and when they when 

1065
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,040
they realize. 
That and it connects and I and I

1066
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,000
see the clients that do it when 
they trust me. 

1067
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,560
I mean, I sold Christmas in 
January, bro. 

1068
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,200
We just hit. 
We just said happy New Year and 

1069
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,240
I'm going to have you fork out 
another hundred or another. 

1070
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,920
Well, I think it was $400,000 
right now for Christmas, even 

1071
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,080
though it just happened. 
Because who want to have that 

1072
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,400
time and who? 
This shit we went through. 

1073
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,960
The year before and I told them 
it wasn't going to happen. 

1074
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,720
It didn't happen because you 
can't get 3000 DeWalt drills 

1075
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:22,520
delivered in a month. 
I don't give a fuck who you are.

1076
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,440
You can't get that done. 
And I told them that I'm good 

1077
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,720
right now. 
Yeah, I'm pretty good. 

1078
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,360
And I told them. 
That and. 

1079
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,320
So when it came to the next 
year, they're like, OK, all 

1080
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,400
right, dude, let's buy this 
early Christmas comes every 

1081
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,400
fucking year, guy. 
Yeah, it's not going to change 

1082
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,880
your budget's. 
There every year for Christmas. 

1083
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,560
What does it matter if you spend
it in January or in? 

1084
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,800
Fucking October. 
When you're already stressed and

1085
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,120
going to get what you want. 
Now, Yeah, now we're all up 

1086
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,320
late. 
Stressing that it's going to be 

1087
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,360
delivered now we're all like as 
soon as you have approved 

1088
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,640
budget. 
It's already allotted for the 

1089
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,560
year. 
Why the fuck not just allocate 

1090
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,720
it and go cool here? 
Let's get this done and it's 

1091
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:04,480
educating them. 
On why they should do that and 

1092
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,320
letting them know that that's 
even an option. 

1093
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,280
Most people don't start talking 
Christmas to their clients until

1094
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,840
July, which is cool. 
That's that's enough time. 

1095
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,440
But you're still going to be 
stressed the fuck out. 

1096
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Oh yeah, I mean, 'cause that's 
five months, you know? 

1097
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,920
It's really cool. 
I love that. 

1098
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,080
This. 
Has been an awesome 

1099
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,480
conversation. 
I mean, what's been so great 

1100
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,840
about this is cannabis has been 
this great unifier of being able

1101
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,640
to take this and make like meow.
Honestly, I've never talked 

1102
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:38,840
about brand merchandise in a 
very entertaining educating way,

1103
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,120
ever. 
And we, I mean, I got to do it 

1104
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,320
while smoking. 
I mean this was. 

1105
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,160
Definitely what I'm saying. 
And this was the first session 

1106
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,280
that I've ever had with Miguel. 
So yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1107
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,240
Same here. 
And I mean. 

1108
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,000
We've known each other for years
and now it's just been so cool. 

1109
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,600
But I mean we we wanted to bring
you on the pod cause one, you 

1110
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,720
were in town and two, you just 
have great energy about you, 

1111
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,440
man. 
And we want you guys, we want 

1112
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,040
everybody to know about you, 
everybody to know about you. 

1113
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,320
So our, you know, our audience, 
your audience truly, man. 

1114
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,600
I mean, yeah, if you guys are 
looking for more than just. 

1115
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,200
Swag like an actual brand 
branded merge that doesn't get. 

1116
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,320
Passed on to your kids? 
Or sent on to like savers or 

1117
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,080
some shit. 
Spend your money wisely. 

1118
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:22,600
Like, yeah, like stop throwing 
it. 

1119
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,200
Away well. 
Miguel, you give us a link, 

1120
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,520
we're going to be able to put 
that down. 

1121
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,160
Where can people reach out to 
you? 

1122
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,880
We'll have everything in the 
show notes below. 

1123
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,080
Yeah, Where can they reach out 
to you? 

1124
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,800
VA LinkedIn. 
Social media, anyway, I answer. 

1125
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,760
Smoke signals. 
OK, just hit. 

1126
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,960
The links and the contact. 
Information signals. 

1127
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,320
Learn those. 
We'll get all of his links and 

1128
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,400
they'll be in the show notes, 
Yeah, And. 

1129
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,520
Just remember you know you 
cannabis is here to be able to 

1130
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,280
help you open up those options 
for communication and 

1131
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,600
connection, so just makes life 
better. 

1132
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,640
Yeah, makes life better. 
It really if if you wanna solve 

1133
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,720
world. 
Problems get everyone high. 

1134
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,640
It's like increasing is your 
quality. 

1135
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,720
Of life. 
Why not live a better quality of

1136
00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:07,840
life And it's not synthetic. 
Right. 

1137
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,280
I mean, you can. 
There are, I mean, if you're. 

1138
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,240
Comparing it to like Xanax? 
Oh no, I I just meant there's 

1139
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,280
like. 
Synthetic cannabinoids that are 

1140
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,040
actually sold on the market that
are produced by pharma. 

1141
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,680
So this is the THC, Aaron, CBD. 
We didn't get into it, but the 

1142
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,520
Texas. 
THCA stuff this Delta 9. 

1143
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,640
I am so lost with all of it. 
I see all the science getting 

1144
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,480
put into to jump through hoops. 
I think it's so insane that 

1145
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,000
we're going through this 
nonsense making shit that's not 

1146
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,040
needed. 
Well, THCA. 

1147
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,960
Technically is the exact same 
thing, but it should be if they 

1148
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,640
are actually growing at the 
same. 

1149
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,040
But it's the thing that we're 
finding is, and they're just 

1150
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,080
harvesting early, right? 
No, their COA. 

1151
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Is not typically what it 
actually is. 

1152
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,920
Bullshit because. 
THCA. 

1153
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,440
Companies took is what. 
Is naturally occurring. 

1154
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,040
In flower that I get from 
California, Colorado, 

1155
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:04,040
Washington, or it's the 
everywhere, it's the 

1156
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,040
unactivated. 
It's THC acidic form. 

1157
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,680
Which is what you get on any 
cannabis plant that is grown. 

1158
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,720
So if you eat it, you're not 
going to get. 

1159
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:15,080
High necessarily 'cause it needs
to be has to be activated. 

1160
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,240
Needs to be heated. 
Needs to be lit on fire and when

1161
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:21,680
you do that, it takes and drops 
the acidic form and it becomes 

1162
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,000
just THC or delta 9 and that is 
what's illegal is delta 9. 

1163
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:31,760
So they can sell THCA flower. 
So it should be should be the 

1164
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,040
exact same thing. 
But that doesn't mean it is 

1165
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,320
because even we find everywhere 
else the Co as aren't always 

1166
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,120
what's in the thing and it 
doesn't necessarily mean that 

1167
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,920
what's tested or shown on there 
is even what's in there. 

1168
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,280
So I would be very curious and I
don't know you'd have to find a 

1169
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,400
like a a reliable source to 
actually test that you know, But

1170
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,480
like I'd be curious to test the 
THCA flower that's down there 

1171
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,640
and go what is this actually is 
this just hemp flower that's 

1172
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,800
been sprayed with concentrates 
That's what it feels like to me 

1173
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,480
when I even. 
When I break it up, like feels 

1174
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:07,760
weird. 
Yeah. 

1175
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,080
And. 
And I even said that. 

1176
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,200
To them. 
But then every once in a while, 

1177
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,320
I'll grab a strain where I'm 
like, OK, dude, this one's 

1178
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,240
actually a lot. 
This one, it it feels like a 

1179
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,360
normal nug. 
It looks like a normal nug, but 

1180
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,640
then the experience is it 
filled. 

1181
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,800
More like a normal nug, or is it
still just I've gone back to 

1182
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,960
that? 
They are calling themselves 

1183
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,360
dispensaries, but I've gone back
to that because I've found a 

1184
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,040
strain there at Light where I 
was getting one that was giving 

1185
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,480
me headaches from the other 
place. 

1186
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,280
But here's the thing, they're so
constricted. 

1187
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,800
They only typically offer like 
one strain at a time. 

1188
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,040
So by the time I'm there, it's a
different strain because they 

1189
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,680
only have such small. 
Growers, I would guess that it's

1190
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,680
only and they don't have the 
scalability that they're growing

1191
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,040
tons of strains. 
At the same time, it's probably 

1192
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,000
still a relatively new program 
of whatever things they're 

1193
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,000
doing, so it's like you only get
like one or two. 

1194
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,400
Options that disappear so 
they're rotating flowers so much

1195
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,000
that it's just super 
inconsistent. 

1196
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:04,320
So it doesn't even matter where 
you go, it's just it's always 

1197
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,440
different. 
You have no. 

1198
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,480
Idea 100%. 
That's horrible. 

1199
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,400
Yeah bro, that's why. 
When? 

1200
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,440
You helped me out like it's is. 
I didn't finish telling you like

1201
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,880
I felt it in my head. 
My brain thanked you. 

1202
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,680
I text that to you. 
My brain. 

1203
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,160
Thanks. 
You because it's just I was. 

1204
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,960
Getting tons of headaches out 
there and stuff and and I self 

1205
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,120
medicate with it because I'm 
still doing my job out there. 

1206
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,240
So it's like, yeah, you gotta 
have something good for it, but.

1207
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,880
No, man. 
Hey, again, thank you so much 

1208
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,280
for being out here willing to 
come on to the show. 

1209
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,080
I mean I know people would be 
like Corsa come on your show, 

1210
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,600
but at the same time like you 
know we're, we're really picky 

1211
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,360
about who we want on our show. 
And well, thank you guys. 

1212
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Appreciate it. 
I had a great. 

1213
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,720
Time. 
Yeah, this was awesome. 

1214
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,960
Alright, everybody. 
Go down to the show notes. 

1215
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Check everything out about 
Miguel we. 

1216
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,480
We'll see you guys next 
Thursday. 

1217
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,400
See you guys later.