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I'm Brandon. 
And I'm. 

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Jesse we're cannabis school 
having cannabis infused 

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conversations with everyday 
people, cannabis companies, 

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celebrities and your mom. 
Welcome to the sesh. 

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Welcome back everybody. 
Hey, you guys. 

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Welcoming back Narath over from 
Dragonfly Wellness, one of our 

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great. 
Buddies bless you. 

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They're also like the makers of 
2024, Brandon's pick was Super 

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Boof and Dragonfly Wellness was 
the grower of that. 

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They've also been this year's 
like 2025. 

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They've got this live rosin 
super boof concentrate that's 

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just been chef's kiss. 
So what's the story behind how 

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you guys grow your biomass, how 
you grow super Boof, and how do 

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you maintain your consistency of
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Yeah, thank you so much for, you
know, those kind words, man. 

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And I Echolo sentiments. 
Super Booth has absolutely been 

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one of my favorite products in 
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And I'm typically, you know, a 
flower person. 

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I love flower. 
But this Super Booth, just the 

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the terpene profile on this, the
taste, the nose, everything 

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about it, there's just been such
an awesome experience, right? 

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And yeah, I can't help but just 
smile when I talk about it and 

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when other people talk about and
when, you know, other Wellness 

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associates and bud attenders 
throughout the state are talking

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about it in the same way and 
saying, wow, this is some of the

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best, you know, live rosin that 
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That means a lot, right? 
That means a lot to, you know, 

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the the hard working team that's
behind every single dragonfly, 

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you know, flour jar that you see
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They put a lot of TLC into it. 
And anybody who's, you know, in 

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cannabis and believes in quality
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cutting corners when it comes to
quality, right? 

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You got to put in that heart and
that real passion and that care 

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for those plants. 
And that's what our team of 

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cultivation does. 
And it's really cool to have a 

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really experienced team that's 
been in the industry for a long 

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time, you know, back in 
California even before, you 

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know, right before would turn 
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So to be able to go through all 
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you'll learn a lot of things 
through the process and 

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ultimately you learn what really
produces really high quality 

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cannabis right and understanding
what are the things that 

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actually lead to having really 
great efficacy in your cannabis,

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because not every strain is 
created equal, right and not 

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every grower is created equal. 
You guys get an opportunity to 

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try a lot of different products 
all over the, you know, the 

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United States and you know, and 
I, I believe it when you guys 

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aren't, you know, blowing smoke,
you know, up my pipe that, you 

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know, we, we've produced some of
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you guys been able to try across
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So that's really, really 
flattering. 

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So. 
What do you think it is about 

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your process that elevates that 
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Yeah, When that comes to that 
TLC, at the end of the day, 

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every single one of us on on the
Dragonfly team really thinks 

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about what if somebody that I 
know and love was to use this 

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product? 
How would I want to be able to 

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grow it, to cultivate it, to 
manufacture it, to produce other

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products, ultimately to the 
point where that patient gets 

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that product in the jar and sees
it at home, Right. 

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So when you think about it that 
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want to give something that is a
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And then you know me, you have 
noticed that I do come from, you

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know, Eastern Asian culture. 
What something that. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
Holy. 

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Shit, I know. 
Right. 

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I know Brandon fine. 
I see it now. 

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This Mormon kid from West Valley
City, UT, right? 

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But yeah, I mean, it's really, 
really awesome to be have people

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who care about it and treat it 
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So that means, you know, we want
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most safe medicine into our 
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And that means we wouldn't want 
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that we grow that we wouldn't 
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right? 
And we're really fortunate to be

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here in a medical state that is 
highly regulated but very 

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thorough testing. 
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product from the regulated 
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that they're going to be solvent
free, they're going to be free 

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of pesticides, they're going to 
be free of heavy metals, they're

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going to be free of microbials. 
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Safest products, we still have 
companies that are radiating 

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their flour and and selling 
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is supposed to be like the the 
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which seems weird because again,
like we've said, if you grow a 

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quality product from the start, 
you don't have to do things like

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radiate your flour. 
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point. 
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unfortunately it is a best 
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other industries, right? 
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pharmaceutical drug industry or 
whether it's, you know, our food

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industry, right, the FDA uses 
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radiate the food that we eat at 
the drugs that we use, right, in

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order to make sure that they 
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possible. 
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you know, manufactured products,
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in a lab. 
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has grown out, you know, in 
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not know what your neighbor is 
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spraying on over and, and vice 
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So yeah, sometimes you have to 
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clean product. 
And, and, and that's a big 

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reason why a lot of people, you 
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it's a big trend over there. 
It really helps to reduce, you 

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know, the possibility of mold. 
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living Organism, there's always 
a chance for mold. 

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But I mean, you hit the nail on 
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I mean, the best way to not have
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and technology on product is 
make sure you put in the quality

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control processes to try to 
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You're never going to be 100% 
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issues where we have to take a 
batch and say, hey, look, we're 

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concerned that by the time this 
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propagate to, you know, the 
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that the Department of 
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So, but but yeah, I think that's
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well too, as we make sure we 
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energy and resources to make 
sure we control our 

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environments, right? 
All of our grow rooms are an 

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individual grow rooms that 
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and the plants that are growing 
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Some people choose to grow in 
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because it saves on energy, 
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Because you're using the sun. 
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greenhouse. 
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greenhouse, they're super humid,
really difficult to control that

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humidity, right? 
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operational decision you make 
creates a different challenge or

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opportunity as a grower. 
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making sure you're good, using 
good sustainable materials, good

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healthy nutrients, right? 
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grow organically because 
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fertilizers and that wouldn't be
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practices throughout in our 
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integrated pest management, 
ladybugs, our best friends. 

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herbicides to get rid of bugs 
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those are ladybugs are natural 
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types of pests that help impact 
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flower that you grow. 
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anywhere from 3 to 5000 ladybugs
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It's amazing that there's just 
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amount of ladybugs. 
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to see, right? 
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mean, I hear all this and I'm, 
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myself and, and, and don't take 
this in a way where you're just 

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like, well, I mean, I want you 
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I'm saying I've heard all this, 
I've read all this same thing 

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everywhere. 
But that's not what stands out 

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to me about what Dragonfly 
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Is that everything that you 
actually do Nara, everything 

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that stands for from every bud 
tender, you guys work with every

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spokesperson for the company. 
You guys care so much about the 

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community. 
You don't just say it, you do it

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where there's a lot of larger 
companies that come into the 

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state that are, you know, 
they're all over the US great 

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companies. 
They provide cheaper products, 

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yes, great, but they don't have 
the quality and it truly speaks 

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on the brand itself as well. 
Your brand really does stand for

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home grown roots. 
I mean, you talked about that 

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where you know, there's a family
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they'd rather they'd rather put 
more money into the restaurants 

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because that actually fucking 
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So it's like, why would you do 
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Right? 
It's like the reason why is 

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because they all of these people
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yeah, cannabis companies are 
just making a shit ton of money 

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off my back. 
No, they're not, right? 

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They are still struggling to be 
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more brands that actually care 
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It feels like it's musical chair
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we're talking about high quality
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and then all of a sudden it's 
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there cutting practices here, 
whatever, trying to sell lower 

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quality product as higher 
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And at Dragonfly, that's where 
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about it, where the products 
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like. 
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cannabinoids added into ACOA of 
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why? 
Why in God's name would you put 

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that in your products? 
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Why would you add that into it? 
We're supposed to be a medical, 

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highly regulated state. 
Why is this even permitted to be

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sold to patients like this? 
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maneuver on a platter and going,
hey, it's not as shitty as it 

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could be. 
Yeah, I, I mean, what really 

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makes me think of when I kind of
compare analogies to maybe other

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industries of like, man, there's
always different ways to be able

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to get your end product and you 
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about, you know, the new 
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meat. 
It sounds kind of weird, right 

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It? 
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But it also brings up really 
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conversations of what new 
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And we really don't know at the 
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But man, to be able to think 
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grow, you know, your own pork in
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So then if you grow it in a lab,
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that kosher? 
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you're not killing an animal. 
So it and then when you think 

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about cannabis and all these 
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we are just barely touching the 
tip of the iceberg, right? 

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We barely understand that the 
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exist in the cannabis plant, 
there are literally hundreds of 

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different cannabinoids and we 
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So you do have to give some 
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willing to look outside of the 
envelope in the interest of real

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science, in the interest of, you
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patients. 
Because there's always in the 

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people who are going to do it 
for the interest of making 

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money, right? 
And that's always the tough part

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is the people who are doing it 
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They tend to be the loudest. 
They tend to be the ones that do

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the most harm. 
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to try to understand the plant 
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their intentions are usually 
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And then somebody finds a way to
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find ways to make their products
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Because again, maybe there's 
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process. 
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cut corners, but there's 
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uncontrollable elements back to 
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If you choose to grow outdoor in
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susceptible to all the elements 
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rainstorm, right pests, you 
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just literally eats your 
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Because the investment that is 
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lot of money. 
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back something and they're like,
well, shoot, we just can't write

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off all of that, so how do we 
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What's the safest, best way that
I might be able to still make 

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this product salvageable that I 
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I don't have evidence that it's 
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So unfortunately, people have to
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time. 
And it really goes back to 

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exactly what you guys talked 
about. 

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And what Jesse was saying is 
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know, part of a team with people
who really care, the decisions 

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are easy. 
You just do the right thing. 

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You know, you do what's going to
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And that's one of our core 
values that Dragonfly is patient

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first number one. 
Yeah, and the, you know, to 

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think about just on a on the 
longevity side, you know, the 

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consumers, yeah, they're they 
want cheaper products always. 

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I mean, everybody wants cheaper 
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what it used to be anymore, I 
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changes over there as far as the
medicinal cannabis that we're 

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able to consume here in this 
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brands. 
I'm not going to I'm not going 

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to shit on them right now. 
But they, you know, the episode 

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go to it. 
But it is the you can tell the 

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amount of quality and care that 
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Yeah, I mean, that bud Brandon 
knocked my Dick in the dirt. 

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That thing was awesome. 
But the flavor, I know that it 

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just it was just not grown in 
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It wasn't kept. 
They just took corners on on 

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simple things, like we talked 
about glass instead of plastic. 

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Yeah, it's a little extra cost, 
but there's a reason why. 

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There is a complete reason why. 
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the the brands now this is what 
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because you have a really 
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Like you didn't go like, oh, 
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and make it like you'd already 
done that. 

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You came from the automotive 
industry, you came from big tech

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like you understand that there's
a lot of growth models and for 

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you to take a big not a bet, but
there was a big part of your 

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life personally where you saw 
with your brother where it could

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have been like addicted to pain 
pills or try this out changes 

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your life, changes his life. 
The opportunity comes up. 

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I mean, why keep pushing it? 
I mean, you keep talking about 

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it feverly. 
It's almost like they got a 

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choke chain on you every time 
you get excited, which is 

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awesome because it means what 
you just said. 

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Patient first. 
Yeah, man, it's incredible 

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because, you know, I, I think 
some of the best ideas and best 

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innovations and, and best 
concepts in the world typically 

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come out of some challenge, 
problem, struggle, trauma that 

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just motivates you so much to be
like, I don't want anybody to 

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ever to have to feel what I 
felt. 

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And if there's a solution that's
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out how we do this, right? 
And and that's exactly what kind

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of drove, you know, me at a 
personal level, but then also 

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everybody in my team, right? 
We're very like minded people 

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where we just want to do good 
and take care of the community 

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has done so much to take care of
our family and give us an 

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opportunity to even be here 
today, right? 

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Those are things that, you know,
really humble us and keep us 

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always making sure we're looking
over shoulder and never resting 

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on our laurels, right? 
And just never saying this is 

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good enough. 
We believe in Kaizen principles 

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and always continual 
improvement. 

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You can always be better, you 
know, and, and we have to do 

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that not just for our own 
mission and core values, but for

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the reason that we serve our 
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support us and love our products
is because they all see the 

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constant innovation, whether 
it's the quality of products or 

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the quality of devices, which is
something that's really unique 

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for a vertically integrated 
operator to go and design and 

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create your own hardware that 
works specifically for your 

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products. 
Not a lot of people do that 

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because they're just busy just 
growing. 

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Cannabis and just limits have 
the limits of like Utah's 

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medical market. 
Have they ever forced you to 

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like, innovate in unexpected 
ways? 

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That's a good question. 
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You know that that's an 
interesting question because, 

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you know, when you think about 
what are the limits here in 

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Utah, you know, there are 
obviously legal buying limits. 

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You can buy 4 ounces of flour or
20 grams of concentrate. 

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So you can kind of, you know, 
mix and match those in terms of 

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the limits that you can 
purchase. 

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So it does make you think a 
little bit about, OK, well, if 4

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ounces of flour is what you're 
able to buy in a given month, 

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how many people really consume 
that much? 

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And the short answer is people 
who are using it medically are 

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utilizing a lot. 
And what they're doing is 

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they're buying a lot of cannabis
and bulk and actually creating 

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their own products because those
products are not available for 

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purchase in the state of Utah 
because they're not acceptable 

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dosage form. 
So let's say I'm somebody. 

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No one makes my dose in the 
state does not exist. 

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Or even the type of delivery 
form, whether it's a, a 

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chocolate or it's butter or 
maybe a brownie. 

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Because you know, you, let's say
you have cancer and you have a 

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hard time eating like it's, you 
have to be able to create 

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different types of products that
allow you to absorb that 

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cannabis in your system. 
And high fat types of foods are 

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really great at allowing all of 
those things to bind together. 

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But now if you're somebody who's
like, OK, you're limit to buy in

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Utah's 4 oz and you use 8 oz, 
you're like, OK, one when I buy 

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4 oz here and then another 4 oz 
somewhere else. 

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And what's the cost of four oz 
here when you know, there are 

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challenges and limits from from 
that perspective. 

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And there is, you know, I 
wouldn't say just specifically 

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here in the state of Utah, but 
I'd say in the United States in 

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general, there is a very 
concerted effort to really 

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tackle like THC potency limits. 
And this interesting narrative 

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of like the the cannabis, you 
know, the THC percentage in 

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cannabis today is so much 
higher, averaging 25% when back 

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in the day it was only 5%. 
But it all comes back to dosage 

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again. 
As well. 

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Right on that one. 
I had created a post on TikTok 

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on socials about that 2 days 
ago. 

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Three days ago and it's, I did 
it years ago and it was my most 

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controversial post because 
there's so many people from back

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in the 60s and 70s who go, Oh 
well, I've smoked all this and 

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that's bullshit or this or that.
And I actually had a 

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constructive educational 
conversation where I learned 

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something new. 
There is out in Laos, Thailand, 

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like Thai sticks. 
They actually have testing done 

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from back in the 60s and 70s 
where Thai sticks were testing 

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between like 15% up to 15% even 
back then. 

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And that was after they had had 
months of being shipped and 

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transported. 
So some degradation because it 

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wasn't the best storage. 
And no, pretty open, probably in

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bags and stuff. 
Like that, the best ceiling in 

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that back in the 60s and 70s and
so where all I had ever heard 

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and learned was that everything 
from what's touted in that, 

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which is mostly DEA seizures and
stuff, or the University of 

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Missouri, they had testing done 
over there and it's going, OK, 

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these are what they show. 
But then I'd have to pull it up.

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But I've got several books from 
different people back then. 

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Who had done studies and testing
on like Landry strains and that 

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that were like, oh, hey, we 
actually found them that were in

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teens or, you know, really. 
And I'm like, oh, that's very 

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interesting. 
Because if that's the case, then

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really it hasn't changed quite 
as drastically as we thought. 

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It's only changed maybe in some 
percentages. 

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But then I look at the market 
right now and I'm like, but 

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that's kind of the same as we 
have right now where we've got 

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really shitty bottom shelf, 
almost basically hemp or even we

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have Wild West of hemp with THCA
and other products, Delta 8 and 

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hemp derived products all over 
the nation where quality ranges 

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everywhere. 
And if that's the case, then 

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really we aren't that far off 
from the 60s and 70's. 

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The only difference is now we 
have companies behind it with 

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more data behind their crows, 
more science than we've ever 

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had, that we can actually look 
back and go, hey, look, we can 

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track and see all of this stuff 
because, well, we're not having 

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to hide it because it's legal 
now within these states. 

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So we can actually see these 
things. 

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And I'm like, that's a very 
different approach. 

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But I don't think like, I had 
never heard of any of that until

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literally three hours ago, two 
hours ago. 

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And he said this and I was like,
holy shit, is that true? 

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And so before I responded to it,
I kept looking He was because 

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his first comment was like, this
is bullshit. 

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I've popped the exact same seed 
from the 60s as I did today. 

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And this same genetic line is 
pulling 15% THC. 

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And he's like any, any botanist 
will tell you that that's not 

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possible. 
And I'm like, and so I looked it

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up and like, well, actually if 
you change the soil composition,

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the minerals, like, there's no 
guarantee that the exact same 

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soil and everything was the 
exact same 6 back in the 60s. 

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It is 60 years, yeah. 
It could have even been better. 

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65 years later. 
So I was just like, it's, it's 

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kind of hard to say that. 
But then after he showed me 

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that, I was like, you know, I, I
looked back and I was like, holy

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shit. 
I have never ever seen this 

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data. 
I've not even heard of this data

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and out of the last time I made 
this post and it had 160 + 1000 

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views and like tons of comments 
all over it. 

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Not a single person gave me a 
referenceable data that could 

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prove anything except what we've
already talked about it like 

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hey, it's always these super low
percentages. 

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But again, if that's really just
a scare, then I mean, we know it

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as we the CNN or MSNBC articles,
all the fear mongering of like, 

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hey, this is going to cause all 
these heart issues and stuff 

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versus hey, we probably tested 
people who already had heart 

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issues because they're the ones 
declaring, hey, we've used 

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cannabis. 
Oh, well, that's where this data

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is probably compiled from, not 
long term data that's actually 

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like comprehensible or would be 
claimed as like any verifiable 

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or like you really couldn't 
ground any sort of data around 

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it like hey, this is is a value 
based evidence. 

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It's like, no, it's pretty 
generic. 

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It's pulled from random sources.
Yeah, and correlation doesn't 

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always mean causation either, 
right? 

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So it's very easy to spin the 
data, spin stories to whatever 

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narrative that you're trying to 
fight. 

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And the reality is there's still
people who don't believe that 

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cannabis is medicine here in our
country, you know, and, and 

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there's going to be a ask any 
young person what their opinion 

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on is it and they're going to 
tell you something very 

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different than maybe our parents
generation and the boomer 

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generations. 
And that's just, you know, 

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information. 
And all you got to do is just do

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a quick ChatGPT search on the 
history of cannabis to just 

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understand the truth behind 
cannabis. 

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And, you know, that's that the 
battle that we fight every 

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single day is constantly trying 
to convince people that we are 

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legitimate medicine and we're 
not just a bunch of stoners out 

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here, you know, grown, you know,
grown cannabis in your uncle 

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basement. 
So that's what, you know, our 

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main focus to be able to do is, 
you know, show as many people as

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possible through the quality of 
our products, get enough people 

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interested to understand what's 
happening here in Utah, what's 

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different, what's going on that 
it starts getting, you know, 

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people interested and, and we 
get to see that, right. 

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And, and we get to see people 
from all over the world checking

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out Dragonfly Wellness. 
Like, why would you check out 

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Dragonfly Wellness in Utah if 
you're in a different country? 

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Well, maybe they heard about a 
really awesome strain that you 

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00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,840
guys stride and they're like, 
let's let's see what's up with 

448
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,600
this, what's going on here? 
You know, so it's really cool 

449
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,920
now that in this yeah, back to 
technology that we get an 

450
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,840
opportunity to do this and how 
much thicker we're learning 

451
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,520
about things across people all 
over the world, you know, and 

452
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,920
realizing that we here in 
America act like cannabis is 

453
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,520
this new thing when other 
countries have entire centers of

454
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,160
excellence surrounded around 
cannabinoid research. 

455
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,560
This is why we know what we know
why we know what TC and CBD 

456
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,960
molecules are. 
We know about our 

457
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,440
endocannabinoid system. 
This is real science, right? 

458
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,160
And, and more people just need 
to understand that this is 

459
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,120
something that happens 
physiological in our body and 

460
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,960
it, you know, our 
endocannabinoid system helps to 

461
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,560
regulate our entire homeostasis 
of our body, right? 

462
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,360
So it's. 
Really cool to learn it's all 

463
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:01,400
been funded products. 
Lots of the research has been 

464
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,320
funded by the United States 
anyway, so even if it's not done

465
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,480
here in the states, most of it 
has been funded throughout lots 

466
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,160
of places. 
And if it has been funded 

467
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,440
through the United States, the 
only access to medicine that 

468
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,280
they're getting to do these 
studies is from the University 

469
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,640
of Mississippi, which grows some
pretty poor quality candidates. 

470
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,880
So not the most efficacious. 
So no wonder you get these 

471
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,440
inconclusive results about, oh, 
it just, it only barely did 

472
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,200
better than a placebo, right? 
And so, you know, I think if you

473
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,560
started using real products that
are actually being produced 

474
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,760
there by people in medical 
markets, I think you'd probably 

475
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,320
have a very different story. 
Otherwise, I don't think people 

476
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,880
would continue to keep coming 
back to dragonfly illness when 

477
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,200
there are a flurry of other 
options available right at your 

478
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,120
fingertips. 
Yeah. 

479
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,880
And that's something I wanted to
ask you, man, because you know, 

480
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,360
concentrates are expensive 
anywhere pretty much, right? 

481
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,600
And it can get a little pricey. 
And, and as a consumer in Utah, 

482
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,520
they're typically going to be 
drawn to the cheapest products. 

483
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,280
That's why you have your Ms. OS 
here. 

484
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,400
And that's great. 
I'm glad that they serve a 

485
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,360
certain demographic. 
But the way that Brandon and I 

486
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,680
have been able to not only 
observe your guys's growing 

487
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,280
process, being able to partake 
of your guys's amazing products 

488
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,840
and, and truly being able to say
it because I want to clear the 

489
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,360
air on that one. 
We are not dragon flow bitch 

490
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:27,880
boys by any means. 
What dragonfly has been is very 

491
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,040
hospitable, very transparent and
open to showing everything to 

492
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,120
US. 
Open up the Komodo. 

493
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,320
And I mean, you know what we 
there's literally nothing we 

494
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,040
have not seen and we have 
reached out to other ones with 

495
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,280
crickets. 
So just so you know, that's why 

496
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,360
we are. 
So I mean when we're doing on 

497
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,640
the show, whether we got a new 
strain or not, we're we're 

498
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,440
typically smoking Dragonfly just
because of that quality. 

499
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,880
So. 
We've definitely tried quite a 

500
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,400
few other ones and there's been 
some very. 

501
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,520
Interesting. 
Colorado style experiences. 

502
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:15,160
What do you mean by that color? 
So Colorado has wide ranges of 

503
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,480
product quality, but one thing 
I've noticed they are incredibly

504
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,280
consistent with is how dry their
product is. 

505
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Even from like the top shelf, 
like Snoop Dogg, gold leaf, all 

506
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240
of those, I've looked at them 
and like they're still really 

507
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,280
dry most of the time that's 
pretty consistent. 

508
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,680
But even most of the other ones 
here, I'm like I've seen some 

509
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,080
really like bottom shelf 
Colorado quality. 

510
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,280
Seriously. 
And I'm like. 

511
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,880
You sold at premium prices. 
Cool. 

512
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Yeah, exactly like I'm sorry. 
Here's here's the The Dirty, 

513
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,920
let's say industry secret as to 
why you it's so common to see 

514
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,800
dry flour. 
When you think about what do 

515
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,200
people purchase flour based on, 
you go into most dispensaries, 

516
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,600
you see a strain, name a price, 
and the THC percentage. 

517
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:17,560
THC percentage is a percent of 
the THC cannabinoid that shows 

518
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,160
up in comparison to the weight 
of the mass of the flower. 

519
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,560
So if you have cannabis that has
high moisture content, it's 

520
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,840
heavier, and if you have a low 
amount of THC, guess what? 

521
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Your THC percentage is going to 
be pretty low and people might 

522
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,640
not think it's as good and might
not purchase it. 

523
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,560
But if I bring that moisture 
content down and now my 4G flour

524
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,840
weighs 3 1/2 grams, well, the 
same amount of THC is still in 

525
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,600
there. 
And now maybe my numbers went up

526
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,120
from 18% and now they're 22%, 
which does unfortunately have a 

527
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,880
significant effect on how well 
that product might sell in a 

528
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,920
pharmacy, right? 
Because when you have limited 

529
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,160
information, it's hard to make 
decisions on what's a good 

530
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,280
product. 
So natural patient behavior is 

531
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,240
going to be like, well, that's 
the same strain there has about 

532
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680
higher THC. 
It's the same price can be the 

533
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,280
one with the higher THC. 
I'm getting more bang for my 

534
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,800
buck. 
Right, which also sucks because 

535
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,080
the other consistent comments 
that I was getting on that post 

536
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,160
of THC percentages was the 
amount of people that said that 

537
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,640
they have like not touched 
cannabis since the 60s or 70s 

538
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,920
and they can't use it now 
because it makes them too 

539
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,040
anxious because one hit is too 
much that they don't aren't able

540
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,040
to experience the calm, relaxing
experience that they used to 

541
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840
have. 
And I was like, well, that also 

542
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,680
goes to the quality difference 
and range of maybe not everyone 

543
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,840
is getting tie sticks or Landry 
strains. 

544
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Maybe people are getting those 
really shitty ditch weed or the 

545
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,840
stuff your buddy grew in his 
backyard that was, you know, 

546
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,680
from shitty seeds from ditch 
weed. 

547
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:06,200
So I don't I love like magic was
an amazing strain, that one. 

548
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,520
What was that even testing at? 
Was that 15 or 618? 

549
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:16,680
15 maybe 15% THC but almost 5% 
CBG which I find a lot in. 

550
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,040
Your valley predominantly. 
Sell THC. 

551
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,320
Had high CBG as well. 
That one was a really good 

552
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,080
hitter and I was, I was 
surprised that that one after we

553
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,360
were puffing out, I was like Oh 
well this is really pleasant. 

554
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160
And we looked, I was like, oh, 
it's got a crazy high amount of 

555
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,640
CBG for that. 
CBG is an awesome cannabinoid 

556
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,560
that we're still learning a lot 
about. 

557
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560
But you know, I think there is 
doctor Ethan Russo did one of 

558
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,840
the first studies where he was 
able to do AI believe it was a 

559
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,640
double-blind placebo test with 
CBG and he was able to validate 

560
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,840
that cannabis is not or sorry, 
CBG is non psychoactive, which 

561
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200
is really important because it 
doesn't create that head change,

562
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,920
but it was also shown to help 
elevate mood. 

563
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,760
And that's really important to 
be able to elevate mood without 

564
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,160
intoxication because typically 
that's kind of how SSR is work 

565
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,160
is kind of numbs you from 
feeling. 

566
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,680
So then you're not sad or 
anxious anymore, right? 

567
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,080
But you don't necessarily feel 
better, right? 

568
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,480
So it's really cool to be able 
to see that there these 

569
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,200
cannabinoids are creating these 
types of effects for people and 

570
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,200
allows us to create and 
formulate different products 

571
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,440
that have CBG because man, maybe
there's somebody who's like, 

572
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,480
Hey, I would love to get F off 
of SSRIs and have some other, 

573
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,560
you know, alternatives to try, 
you know, for my anxiety, for my

574
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,040
depression and be able to see 
how these work and not have to 

575
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,560
worry about getting quote UN 
quote high, right, Because 

576
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,040
that's something CBG. 
Isolates, yeah, CBG isolates or 

577
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,000
something that is coming down 
the road in the Utah market. 

578
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,240
I think you, you, you're already
seeing some of those products 

579
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,920
that are available that you can 
buy. 

580
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,600
They tend to be formulated with 
others because the reality of 

581
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,640
cannabinoids is we know about 
the entourage effect. 

582
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,720
And when you have multiple 
cannabinoids and terpenes and 

583
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,000
flavonoids working together, 
there's something that just 

584
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,280
works better than the isolated 
cannabinoids alone, right? 

585
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,960
And this is, you know, the, this
is nothing new in cannabis. 

586
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,360
Anybody who's been long in 
cannabis long enough knows that 

587
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,760
full spectrum, bod spectrum, 
those will always do better than

588
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,600
your standard distillate isolate
types of products or just a 

589
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,760
straight THC distillate cart, 
You know, because those people, 

590
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,200
that's all they need. 
Some people, it works for them, 

591
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,520
right? 
Maybe it helps with their pain 

592
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,400
and their anxiety and it's the 
right dose you can eat. 

593
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Canned dog food? 
That's cool. 

594
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,480
Yeah. 
So I mean, you know. 

595
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Everybody's got their flavor. 
But The thing is, it's, it's 

596
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,440
exactly that there is because 
I'm thinking about like for one 

597
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,880
gram, it's going to go anywhere 
from like 70 to $90.00. 

598
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,720
But I want you to explain to our
audience about like, because 

599
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,760
you're getting that amount, it 
doesn't mean you've got to do a 

600
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,600
lot. 
And what is typically that 

601
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,440
you're seeing with those who 
should be exploring that those 

602
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,920
who are spending a little too 
much time in the distillates? 

603
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,760
I mean, distillates are great on
the travel on the go. 

604
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,760
It's like grab and go snacks. 
But to be honest, I mean, you're

605
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,679
really not getting the efficacy,
the medicinal properties that 

606
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,440
you should be seeing. 
We see such high sales in carts,

607
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,000
but in flour and in concentrate,
it's lower. 

608
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,400
How do we, how do we balance 
that out? 

609
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,560
How do we get more people to be 
able to use concentrates because

610
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,760
it's more medically viable for 
them? 

611
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Yeah, I mean, first, I mean 
education, right? 

612
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,360
Just the first conversation of 
like even explaining what is a 

613
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,440
concentrate, because even when I
started I was like, what is 

614
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,960
that? 
Why, Why are you putting boogers

615
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,080
and ear wax into your thing, 
into your glass pipe? 

616
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,280
What is this thing? 
So most people really don't know

617
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,840
how even concentrates are made. 
And it's really, it's a really 

618
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,160
cool process because hash making
has been around for a really, 

619
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,040
really long time. 
And this all natural, just 

620
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:15,960
basically you're giving your 
cannabis flour an ice bath and, 

621
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,720
and, and depending on the 
starting material, well, you 

622
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,240
start with fresh frozen 
material, which is going to 

623
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:25,880
provide you the freshest, most 
terpius profile versus something

624
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,160
that's cured. 
You get a different type of 

625
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,440
consistency in those products, 
but solvent free, completely 

626
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,040
natural. 
And it's really cool to see the 

627
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,000
types of products can still be 
made. 

628
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,040
And I think these are the types 
of products that people need to 

629
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,880
learn more about because I think
people do want to put natural, 

630
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,680
safe products into their body, 
things that haven't been altered

631
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,240
or manufactured or extracted 
using other things. 

632
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,680
So it's an opportunity for 
people to learn about 

633
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,200
concentrates and the fact that 
you can buy a 1g concentrate, 

634
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:00,680
right? 
Yeah, $80 sounds like a lot. 

635
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,320
But when you break it down and 
you say, OK, let's say on 

636
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,880
average a concentrate has about 
70% THC out of a 1g, which is 

637
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,720
1000 milligrams, you're going to
get 700 milligrams of THC, 

638
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,160
right? 
So you know that that's quite a 

639
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520
bit. 
So when you think about dosing 

640
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,800
you, you really only need 
10/15/20 milligrams depending on

641
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,160
whether you're inhaling, whether
you're ingesting. 

642
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,720
So think about how many times 
you're using that product over 

643
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:33,680
the course of time. 
But I think because most people 

644
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,400
don't understand how it works, 
how the dosing works, it just 

645
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,640
seems really expensive because 
it's like wow, $85 when I could 

646
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,160
just buy this one gram cart for 
40 bucks. 

647
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,040
I think I'll take you. 40 bucks 
well, and, and, and to be able 

648
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,480
to kind of plug it because I 
just remember the conversation 

649
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,640
from earlier, you guys are doing
something pretty awesome with a 

650
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,320
big name company to be able to 
incentivize people to come and 

651
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960
try these amazing concentrates 
that are going to be coming out 

652
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:05,000
here and on 7/10 7:10. 
We talked about it in our last 

653
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,480
episode. 
Yeah. 

654
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Can you give us a little bit 
more info on that and why this 

655
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,080
is such a big deal to be able to
bring medical patients more 

656
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,720
aware of concentrates being a a 
go to? 

657
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,240
It's not as much, I mean you 
just described it over there. 

658
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:23,280
We, we understand that, but 
hearing it from a producer that 

659
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,720
actually cares about the quality
of product, it's actually saving

660
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,680
you a lot of money. 
Especially for those who are 

661
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,800
putting a lot of money into 
edibles that they don't touch 

662
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,480
that stay in their sock drawer 
and the flower that sits, it's 

663
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,560
for months on end where they 
might grind up every once in a 

664
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,240
while. 
I, I think that concentrates are

665
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,720
that answer for a lot of issues 
for those people and then they 

666
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:49,040
can gradually kind of go into 
the other products. 

667
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,320
I almost see it as a safer way 
rather than a vape pen, you know

668
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,720
what I mean? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

669
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,560
No, I appreciate you, you know, 
asking about that because, you 

670
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,160
know, I'll first start out by, 
you know, when you think about 

671
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,440
what are, you know, probably the
two limiting factors that might 

672
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,160
prevent somebody that is already
purchasing concentrates maybe 

673
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,720
from the free market, maybe from
other States and not ready to 

674
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:15,240
try $85, you know, 1G 
concentrates in Utah is #1 the 

675
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:18,240
quality. 
Because what you actually find 

676
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:22,640
is that people who do like 
concentrates are willing to pay 

677
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,240
for for good quality 
concentrate. 

678
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,240
Because if you go into any other
adult use market that is 

679
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,760
supposedly supposed to be 
cheaper, oh, trust me, you will 

680
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,280
find 85 dollar 1G concentrates 
out. 

681
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Yeah, right. 
So people are willing to pay for

682
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,640
it, but not if it's good 
quality. 

683
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,480
So I think there's been a lack 
of good quality concentrates 

684
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,360
because it comes from a lack of 
good quality biomass. 

685
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,920
And now that you know, Dragonfly
has been producing material 

686
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,320
specifically for fresh frozen 
products, we're producing some 

687
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,200
of the best quality input 
material, which allows you to 

688
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,200
produce the best hash. 
You can Polish a turd, but it's 

689
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,200
still a turd, right? 
So having great quality means 

690
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,800
you're going to have a really 
great end product. 

691
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,280
So quality is important. 
And the other factor is price, 

692
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,720
right? 
Price is always going to be in 

693
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,400
there, but I look at price of 
two factors, price of the actual

694
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,000
product, but the price of the 
device because it does require 

695
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,080
you to have some slightly 
different devices. 

696
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,600
And to me that has been the 
biggest inhibitor of people 

697
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,520
getting into the concentrate 
game because I don't want to go 

698
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,400
buy this giant glass e-mail. 
I don't know how to use it. 

699
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,600
I don't want my family to walk 
in on me using it. 

700
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,960
And then I can't afford a, you 
know, 4 or $500 dab device. 

701
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,640
So what we've been able to do is
partner with, in our opinion, 

702
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,320
one of the most premier 
electronic concentrate device 

703
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,360
makers in the industry. 
And that's possible Puffco. 

704
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,280
And Puffco is going to be 
running some awesome promotions 

705
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,320
with us during 710 where if you 
come in on 7/10 and you purchase

706
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:06,600
a Puffco Pivot, you can get a 1G
concentrate for a dollar and one

707
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,520
for if you're already somebody 
who's sold out in it, right? 

708
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,160
Exactly. 
You're like, wait, normally 

709
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,680
Puffco doesn't even go on a 
sale. 

710
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,440
You're buying food retail. 
These, you know, a Puffco Pivot,

711
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,880
it's like $130.00. 
I'm not saying this is a cheap 

712
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,600
device. 
But compared to the four $500 

713
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:27,000
license, entry level, easy to 
use, easy to clean, I think 

714
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,480
that's one of the things that is
going to allow people to start 

715
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,280
exploring concentrates more. 
And we're going to give people 

716
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,400
an opportunity that are 
interested in trying, interested

717
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,040
in maybe try not just trying 
concentrates in general, but 

718
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,960
maybe you've been using 
concentrates, but you haven't 

719
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,400
tried Utah concentrates yet. 
So now you're. 

720
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,400
Going to get some grams for a 
dollar. 

721
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Anywhere. 
And I'll tell you, I mean it's 

722
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,400
not going to be the clearance 
products. 

723
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,680
You're going to have an 
opportunity to get some of the 

724
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,240
best quality hash and 
concentrates that is in the 

725
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,920
market right now, so. 
Oh, dude, well, I got to ask you

726
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,800
then, because I know that you, 
you guys grow the black amber 

727
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,360
that's provided that. 
But is black amber coming out 

728
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160
back out or is that one is that 
it's coming back? 

729
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,080
I I think you might see a return
of black amber soon. 

730
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,200
I don't know if it'll make it by
7:10. 

731
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,440
That's fine. 
No, no. 

732
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,440
It just tell. 
Me, it's in the year. 

733
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,520
It's one of my favorite strains.
That's my favorite strain. 

734
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,640
Some cool strains, at least you 
should expect to see outside of 

735
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,160
our super booth. 
You know, live rosin. 

736
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,720
We've got an awesome new dream 
live resin concentrate as well 

737
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:40,760
and a soon 11-G but coming down 
the pipeline really soon as you 

738
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,000
guys are going to see some 
cushions, you know cheered resin

739
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,760
oil as well as batter and you're
also going to see some of that 

740
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,080
black amber coming really soon. 
So I'll keep you guys. 

741
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,280
That's what I'm. 
Talking about dude, that I mean,

742
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,920
seriously, even the constructs, 
one of the things that I will 

743
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,480
say about the consistency of 
your guys's concentrates, like 

744
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,800
what I loved is when I put that 
in my banger, you know, 

745
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,960
typically because I mean, I get 
a mix over there. 

746
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,200
I've got, I've got your guys's 
and then I've got, you know, 

747
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:17,640
somebody else's and the, the 
consistency, the cleanliness in 

748
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,800
my bowl after and it was so 
cool. 

749
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,400
My first experience with Black 
Amber because I just needed to, 

750
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,000
I didn't need to really like 
clean it out. 

751
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,280
I barely swiped the Q-tip in 
there and porcelain. 

752
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,960
That was so Brandon talks about 
that. 

753
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,520
It's so. 
Clean my the Super Boof because 

754
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,280
I've got the Super Boof and the 
Super Lemon G and both of those 

755
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,760
are such clean concentrates that
I'm truly left with nothing left

756
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,400
in my banger. 
Which is insane because even 

757
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,480
diamonds and sauce, like all 
sorts of other qualities still 

758
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,280
leave so much left in the banger
that I'm like, you just have to 

759
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,360
clean it out. 
But I mean, you still have to 

760
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,560
clean your banger anyway. 
But I'm not left with so much 

761
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,240
residue and just like dark crap,
like dark concentrate in the 

762
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,800
bottom that I'm like, I don't 
want to turn up my rig hot 

763
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,200
enough to burn that off. 
Yeah. 

764
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,400
And you bring a good point 
because that's where the true, 

765
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,320
you know, testament to good 
quality concentrate really comes

766
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,320
to because all the bad stuff 
that you put into your starting 

767
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,800
product, it's going to come out 
in the wash, no pun intended. 

768
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,360
But you will literally see it 
when you're washing the hash. 

769
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,240
And when you try to move that 
into the next stage of actually 

770
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:37,960
having concentrate, now you see 
what's left in the banker. 

771
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,440
And typically what's left over 
is not the things that you 

772
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,360
really want to be putting into 
your body. 

773
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,000
So again, those are 
opportunities to make sure 

774
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,800
you're getting really clean, 
regulated product that is 

775
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,320
tested, you know, and, and, and 
understanding what's in those 

776
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,480
products. 
And that's what you just can't, 

777
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,080
you know, no one can guarantee 
you in other states because 

778
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,160
testing is just so out of whack 
in other states. 

779
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,280
Like you can't even take any 
test results in adult use 

780
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,120
markets seriously. 
And when here in Utah, when you 

781
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,360
only have two state testing 
labs, it's very easy to make 

782
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,880
sure that you're validating and 
verifying and you get to see and

783
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,960
watch all these numbers. 
And I think that's something our

784
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,880
Department of Agriculture does 
an incredible job is making sure

785
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,800
we have accurate, reliable 
results and safe products that 

786
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,200
enter into our market. 
Because that's why we're here, 

787
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,960
right? 
We want to make sure that people

788
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,320
that do need the medicine do 
have an option of being able to 

789
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,960
get safe regulated product. 
Cuz back when I was growing up, 

790
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,840
like you didn't have a choice. 
You just had to get whatever is 

791
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,600
available and you didn't know. 
And when I think look back on 

792
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,800
that, I'm like, man, that's kind
of crazy, right? 

793
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,600
To just like if you just like 
rolled up on somebody, but like,

794
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,080
yo, let me buy some of those 
apples and you know nothing. 

795
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,880
You know some dude on the 
street, I don't know you. 

796
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,000
Know you want these apples? 
I don't know. 

797
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,720
Right, I don't know where. 
You. 

798
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,360
Yeah, dear. 
Exactly, exactly. 

799
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,760
You know, and and that's the 
thing, like, I mean, and this 

800
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,880
ain't to call them out, but it, 
it really is. 

801
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,400
It's like, hey, why? 
Why not open up and allow us to 

802
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,080
come in, get to know you and and
what you're doing? 

803
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,720
Because the the problem that we 
see with it, it's like, you 

804
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:18,200
know, another thing is shout out
to stash. 

805
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Stash has provided us with these
amazing grinders. 

806
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,880
Nerith, we're getting you a new 
awesome grinder. 

807
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,800
You just lost your grinder. 
So it's perfect opportunity and 

808
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,200
timing, right? 
But literally what I love about 

809
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:37,960
Dragonfly is when I grind my 
weed in my stash, I got to clean

810
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:43,280
it more often because that shit 
is sticky dude, it's so sticky. 

811
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,440
It is man, I, I would say that 
for sure. 

812
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,840
You know, I get, I, I try most 
of the flour in the state and 

813
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,880
there's, there's some, there's 
some good flour out there. 

814
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,200
Totally. 
No matter what flour I try, 

815
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,520
nothing really lasts as long as 
the products that we grow. 

816
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,920
You know, I might have a great 
experience in 3045 minutes. 

817
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:08,280
I'm like, Oh, I, I think I need 
to read up right where it's for 

818
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,920
me with Dragonfly, it's super 
consistent, 234 hours, no 

819
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,880
problem, no problem. 
And I can go throughout my day 

820
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,040
and, and that's probably the 
biggest difference I notice in 

821
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,680
my body right next to the nose, 
next to the, the the bag appeal 

822
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,800
and the beautiful buds. 
But it's how you feel and how 

823
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,080
much you have to. 
Use I, I. 

824
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,480
And I always talk about, yeah, 
it does cost a little bit more 

825
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,200
to get a Dragonfly 8, but if you
have to spend twice the money of

826
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:40,080
using another product to get the
same effect, yeah, I don't think

827
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,440
it's actually cheaper. 
It's not no. 

828
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,800
Well, and then the experience I 
mean you when you have quality 

829
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,440
product, you you actually lose 
use a lot less and especially 

830
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,720
with vaporizer, your guys's 
vaporizer I used that I just got

831
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,040
back from camping. 
I used it, but The thing is, 

832
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,000
it's, it's the size, you know, 
we, we typically, we're talking 

833
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,920
about that today on the show. 
Like if it's a bowl that you're 

834
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,640
burning, that's one thing, but 
you really don't need like a big

835
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,680
fat bowl for vaporizer. 
You're going to save so much 

836
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,640
more time and and on that, but 
it's the quality of product 

837
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,080
you're putting inside of it. 3rd
of a gram really that is like 

838
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,800
for a lot of people that is 
plenty dose right? 

839
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,600
I'd say for 80% of the people 
who are using, using cannabis 

840
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,520
medicinally like that is more 
than enough. 

841
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,320
Even for me there's still 
moments moments and depending on

842
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,960
the strain that 1/3 of a gram is
enough for me. 

843
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,520
Where the moon is positioned. 
Yeah, and I'm like hanging 

844
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,800
upside down and. 
Is Uranus. 

845
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,240
Position, yeah. 
This papaya bomb is one of them.

846
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,600
Man, yesterday when I first 
started it in the 1st 15 minutes

847
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,080
I was kind of like oh man, this 
is this, this really isn't doing

848
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,440
it. 
And then I just started playing 

849
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,080
my new arcade that my friend 
built for me and boom it hit me 

850
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,280
like a ton of. 
Ton of oh it's a creeper. 

851
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,560
It's it, yeah, it was a slow 
creeper. 

852
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,120
So now I'm like, wow. 
So that's why this is my night 

853
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,760
time at home, right? 
Because like I said, like slow 

854
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,360
creepers, right? 
Especially for experienced users

855
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,480
where you kind of, you know, 
when you take that first inhale,

856
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,920
you're kind of like, OK, this 
right to the Dome, this feels 

857
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,880
different. 
But those slow creeper, is it 

858
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,480
like they catch up on you, 
right? 

859
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,640
Dude, I mean that's why I talk 
about black Amber because black 

860
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,640
Amber to me is my it is the 
happiest stream not only for me,

861
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,640
my wife as well. 
My wife is just like you know, I

862
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,480
got the concentrate but for her 
it's the flower which always 

863
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,760
goes for us flower 1st. 
And that's what I love about 

864
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,040
your guys is concentrate, 
because you can tell that that 

865
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:50,160
it is just pure plant and it oh 
man, I mean you, you even get 

866
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,960
that petrocore taste even in 
that. 

867
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,080
And that's so cool because you 
know that it's the. 

868
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,800
Quality. 
It was literally like getting 

869
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,800
the flour, smoking that and then
going to the concentrate and was

870
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,920
like, Oh my God, they taste the 
same. 

871
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,680
Exact same tips. 
Like, oh, it's so good. 

872
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,680
Yeah. 
And that that was not always 

873
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,400
translates across depending on. 
What they're? 

874
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:19,080
Doing so, it was amazing to see 
that your guys's products have 

875
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,320
brought it across, that it is 
super lemony, same experience, 

876
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,000
you know and. 
Absolutely. 

877
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,600
And look, there's there's some 
producers that do create some 

878
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,160
good quality concentrates that 
are out there. 

879
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,720
And when they have an 
opportunity to be able to get 

880
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,240
their hands on some of our 
biomass, they're just, you know,

881
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:37,760
they're just blown away, right. 
We get opportunity to work with 

882
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,920
pure Utah. 
Awesome team over there, Alex 

883
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,840
Belial, Frank, Dan up all hand. 
Incredible people, love 

884
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,680
cannabis, love the culture, love
just making awesome hash, 

885
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,560
awesome concentrates, and 
they've been an awesome partner 

886
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,040
to be able to help us develop 
these types of products because 

887
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,960
biomass quality flower is just 
one piece of it, right? 

888
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,640
Like we make sure that we 
produce the highest quality. 

889
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,240
And it also goes down to the 
processing of the plant, how you

890
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:08,920
harvest the plant, because good 
hash comes from good handling of

891
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,200
the plant and you want to 
preserve every single one of 

892
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,120
those tricone heads on the 
plant. 

893
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,480
And if you're just cutting 
plants down and dragging them 

894
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,400
through the hallway, you're not 
going to have the greatest 

895
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,680
product. 
So like, it's almost like white 

896
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,960
glove experience of like 
harvesting these. 

897
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,800
We saw down the buds, putting 
them into freeze dried bags, 

898
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,200
freezing them and instantly you 
lock in that flavor and it's 

899
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,920
it's it it leads to again, the 
quality of the so yeah. 

900
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,160
And the live rosin vape pod, the
Nova pod, I'm not a big vapor. 

901
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,560
Oh my goodness, it is so tasty 
and so good. 

902
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Like like I was using flour and 
I don't normally get that from 

903
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,200
vapes. 
Right. 

904
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,640
No, yeah, live rosins are 
definitely the closest one to 

905
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,000
that, even in a concentrate 
form. 

906
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,400
And at your 710 event, you guys 
have several hash makers that 

907
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,440
will be there that people can 
come actually meet, connect with

908
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,720
and like learn about the hash 
that is actually produced here 

909
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,680
in Utah. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

910
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,560
We're gonna have some of the 
premier hash makers in our 

911
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,920
state, right? 
And you know, people might laugh

912
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,880
and say, oh, there's no good 
hash makers here. 

913
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,160
Yeah, well, come, come and talk 
to them. 

914
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,720
Come and or do. 
We take dab with Brandon. 

915
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:27,240
Amazing conversations, man. 
JC Beck from Pure Plan. 

916
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:31,400
He's just, he's a wizard. 
A wizard just talking to him 

917
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,920
about hash, it just gets you so 
excited. 

918
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,160
And you're like, I think I wanna
try some, you know? 

919
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,960
And yeah, Alex Villa and his 
team over there over peer over. 

920
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,600
They used to grow over in 
Colorado. 

921
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,720
So yeah, they produce knocking 
products, Valley Lowe's 

922
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,960
products, the out of state 
concentrate products. 

923
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,880
So they're coming in with with 
some really, really great fire 

924
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,480
because they believe in the 
products. 

925
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,040
They care about these things. 
They don't want to make poor 

926
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,040
quality products, right. 
And then we got a team all the 

927
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,640
way out in in Heber. 
All right, the bougie medical 

928
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,080
team, which is responsible for 
the mother liquor brand and they

929
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,240
took a little hiatus from, you 
know, the concentrate hash game.

930
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,920
We were we partnered with them 
very early on and produce 

931
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,400
probably one of the the rosin 
since all talked about this day.

932
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,680
It was a Granimals rosin. 
This is before Granimals. 

933
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,720
The kids clothing brand sent us 
a cease and desist letter and 

934
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,400
said we couldn't call it 
Granimals anymore. 

935
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,880
And they're concerned. 
That's for their customers. 

936
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,560
We're gonna confuse their 
products with ours, right? 

937
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,280
Oh my gosh, this doesn't taste 
like kids toys. 

938
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000
These are the flowers. 
I was excited so. 

939
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Stupid. 
I know it's. 

940
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Like the same logic of no 
chocolate. 

941
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Yeah. 
But yeah, they have three 

942
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,560
incredible, incredible hash 
makers that are so passionate 

943
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,840
about the plant, passionate 
about their craftsmanship, 

944
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,960
because when you talk to them, 
it is art. 

945
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,840
These are like chefs, chefs with
a little less ego, only a little

946
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,080
less. 
Because all these guys believe 

947
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,680
in their product, the best 
product, as they should. 

948
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,880
Because that's what a good hash 
maker should think, that hey, 

949
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,600
I'm going to make the best 
product possible. 

950
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:19,160
Right, they are to. 
Support my brand. 

951
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,560
So yeah, pure duty, pure plan, 
Mother liquor. 

952
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,680
Like they're going to be having 
hash deals. 

953
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,360
If you want to try some of the 
best hash that's out here, come 

954
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,200
check those out and you'll still
be able to pick up the 

955
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,320
dragonflies super booth as well 
too. 

956
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,040
You'll be able to try a number 
of different things and there's 

957
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,280
going to be, you know, 
opportunities where Puffco is 

958
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,320
going to be sponsoring some 
giveaways where some patients 

959
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,400
will be able to potentially get 
a Puffco peak device for a 

960
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,440
dollar that's. 
What I'm talking about? 

961
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,320
$100 devices, right? 
And then, you know, also, you 

962
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,680
know, being able to come that 
day and be able to get medical 

963
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,720
cards because I know that 
there's a lot of people that are

964
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,120
reluctant to get their cards 
because of the cost. 

965
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,960
It is it's expensive and to be 
honest, gosh, if I wasn't 

966
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,960
working in the industry, I'd 
have a hard time paying 150 

967
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,320
dollars, $200 to go get a card 
and then buy product. 

968
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,320
You know, I'm like, I kind of 
just bought product. 

969
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,400
So, you know, you know, our 
partners across the street at 

970
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,680
Utah Grown, they've run, you 
know, Educational Medical Card 

971
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,000
Center where you can go and get 
one of the most affordable cards

972
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:32,480
every single Tuesday of the week
for $75, plus the $15 state fee,

973
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,480
which the Department of Health 
and Human Services will be 

974
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,520
reducing in half starting July 
1st. 

975
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,680
They're also reducing the 
standard $3 transaction fee down

976
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,000
to $1.50. 
So it's awesome to be able to 

977
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,240
see that the Department of 
Health has been able to find 

978
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:54,160
opportunities to make this 
program more affordable because 

979
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,280
I do truly believe we have one 
of the best medical cannabis 

980
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,600
programs. 
And it's thanks to the people 

981
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,040
who work at the Department of 
Health, people like, you know, 

982
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,240
Ritual Warren, people at the 
Department of Agriculture like 

983
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:06,360
Brandon Forsyth and Cody James, 
that puts so much care and 

984
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,520
effort into the program to make 
sure that we have one of the 

985
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,120
safest and best cannabis 
programs out there. 

986
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,920
And it's really cool to be a 
part of, you know, this 

987
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,680
community, which is obviously 
very different than, you know, 

988
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,280
maybe the support network that 
existed before cannabis got 

989
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480
legalized. 
And you just had to rely on your

990
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,040
homies and, you know, your 
neighbors and the people that, 

991
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,000
you know. 
Now we get to work with really 

992
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,800
incredibly smart, talented 
people in regulatory agencies 

993
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,040
that have an opportunity to make
sure that we are producing the 

994
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,600
safest and best products out 
there and making sure that we're

995
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,320
educating, you know, people on 
the difference between medical 

996
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,320
cannabis and what you might just
buy out there on the street or 

997
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,680
from your plug. 
And it's not the same thing, I 

998
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,160
can tell you that. 
Yeah. 

999
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,720
Well, and with that man, I mean,
for those that you know over 

1000
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:01,160
there within you tag and and 
with the all the regulatory that

1001
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,240
you have to be able to do it. 
One of the things that we wanted

1002
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,120
to ask is you could be able to 
put us in touch with some of 

1003
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,120
them because we feel that you 
know what you've you've given 

1004
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,520
them a good amount of love. 
Now they're not always making 

1005
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,800
your life easy and so and 
exactly. 

1006
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,120
But that's the thing. 
Like you, you've given them 

1007
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,840
respect and love for that reason
alone. 

1008
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,960
Because it's like, yeah, hold 
us, hold us to a higher 

1009
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,200
standard. 
And even though we know that in 

1010
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,280
the cannabis industry, no matter
where it is, there are companies

1011
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,360
that are cutting corners and it 
almost feels like they're 

1012
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,080
greasing palms around the same 
time. 

1013
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:38,920
So it's it's good to hear that 
you have a high esteem for Utah 

1014
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,280
AG, especially Utah AG, because 
Utah AG gets a bad rap a lot 

1015
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,480
with it within the within the 
industry. 

1016
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,720
I understand that. 
But that's that's honorable. 

1017
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:49,720
You're treating him as like, 
yeah, you know, that's OK. 

1018
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,480
You keep me in check. 
I keep producing high quality 

1019
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,160
product. 
I mean, no argument there. 

1020
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,240
Yeah, they are. 
You know, we see them as as 

1021
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,560
partners, right? 
Sometimes we don't see eye to 

1022
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,760
eye. 
We don't agree on things. 

1023
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,400
Sometimes we disagree on a lot 
of things. 

1024
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,440
But the end of the day, you 
know, rules are rules and 

1025
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,200
everybody's got to follow by the
same rules. 

1026
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,200
And it's awesome to be in a 
state where we actually get to 

1027
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,120
have open dialogue and 
conversations and talk directly 

1028
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,680
to our regulators, where there's
plenty of other markets where 

1029
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,960
you wouldn't never have that 
opportunity to be like, hey, I'd

1030
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,920
like to talk to you about this 
new rule that you're going to 

1031
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,320
issue and I'd like to share my 
feelings. 

1032
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,440
I don't think you get an e-mail 
response back, right? 

1033
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,480
So, yeah, I'm not, I'm, you 
know, I'm not just trying to get

1034
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,120
brownie points out there. 
That's the reality is that we 

1035
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,600
are constantly meeting all the 
time, every single month. 

1036
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,680
These are public meetings that 
honestly, I wish more people 

1037
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,160
would actually attend the 
medical cannabis policy Advisory

1038
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,240
Board meeting. 
Usually it's I believe it's the 

1039
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,000
second Tuesday of every single 
month. 

1040
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,320
We talk about different 
policies, agendas, different 

1041
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:02,320
rules, things to help improve 
our program and that has a board

1042
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,440
of, you know, independent folks,
some people from industry, some 

1043
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,840
people from the medical field, 
some people from the education 

1044
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,840
field, from patient advocacy. 
Desiree Hennessy from the Utah 

1045
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,920
Patients Coalition is on that. 
So you get input from all these 

1046
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,840
different people on does this 
real makes sense? 

1047
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,680
How does this help patients? 
How does this hurt rather than 

1048
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,720
somebody just making the 
decisions on the whim. 

1049
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,480
So it's really cool to be able 
to have those types of 

1050
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,560
conversations and more people 
should TuneIn and listen and 

1051
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,400
provide feedback and say, hey, 
I'd like to weigh in on this. 

1052
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,640
You know, this idea because it 
makes no sense to me. 

1053
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,600
You know why you would, you 
know, force me to, you know, 

1054
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,440
drive out of state because you 
don't accept my qualifying 

1055
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,840
condition here in the state of 
Utah. 

1056
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,520
Yeah. 
So now I feel like a criminal 

1057
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,080
because I have anxiety, I have 
depression, I have insomnia, I 

1058
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,080
have anything. 
But now I can't get a card, so 

1059
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,400
I'm going to drive to Wendover 
or drive to Dinosaur Co or 

1060
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,640
wherever. 
Oh, dinosaur. 

1061
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,880
Oh. 
Yeah, we love. 

1062
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,760
Funny ones we did that. 
It was a good. 

1063
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,040
Run Yeah, Han Solo Burger and 
Casey Jones is what I got. 

1064
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,880
From Han Solo. 
Burger Han Solo Burger is a good

1065
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,960
one, man. 
Dude, that was a good a good 

1066
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,480
batch. 
You know, sometimes you get some

1067
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:26,320
banging. 
Oh, that shit. 

1068
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,200
Was dry as that. 
That shit was dry. 

1069
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,400
As fuck yeah, it was safe dry 
right if you're going to spend 

1070
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:31,800
nights. 
I was so. 

1071
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,600
Excited. 
Anyways, that was my for the. 

1072
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,560
Reality is, is like people, 
there's this fallacy that people

1073
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,960
think that driving out of state 
is actually cheaper and saving 

1074
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,120
money when like yesterday back 
to quality. 

1075
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,480
Like I know that there's still 
people out there on the street 

1076
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,240
that, you know, are, are 
spending 200 to $250 for an 

1077
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,800
ounce from their plug. 
And the fact that you can go 

1078
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,720
into Dragonfly right now and get
a highly quality tested, you 

1079
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,680
know, free of all these solvents
and pesticides and anything that

1080
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,400
you'd be harmful to your body, 
and you can get that for under 

1081
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:15,240
$200. 
At a regular pharmacy, like if I

1082
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,240
was still in the free market I'd
be like Dang I don't think my 

1083
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,320
plug can beat that. 
Sometimes my plug doesn't even 

1084
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,440
have any cuz he's not even 
consistent and he brings stuff 

1085
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,000
that he doesn't even know what 
the name is, right? 

1086
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,640
So that's, that's just the 
reality, right? 

1087
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,360
And you know, sometimes, you 
know, when we do talk about, you

1088
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,680
know, cannabis and the people 
who use cannabis, we kind of put

1089
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,080
people into these bucks buckets 
of, well, you're a medical 

1090
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,440
patient, but if you're not, 
you're just a recreational user.

1091
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:52,280
And it's kind of a weird thing 
to put people into a bucket and 

1092
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,000
make them feel some kind of way,
like if I'm over here, I'm doing

1093
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,640
something wrong, but the guy 
right next to me is perfectly 

1094
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,440
legal and fine. 
It's, it's confusing, man. 

1095
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,440
If I'm just a regular person, 
it's it doesn't make sense. 

1096
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:12,280
So when people first try a 
dragonfly product, what do you 

1097
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,200
hope they walk away thinking or 
feeling? 

1098
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,440
Honestly, like for us, like we 
take a lot of pride in our 

1099
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,960
products. 
So I want them walking away 

1100
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:26,160
thinking it's like, wow, this is
some of the best product I've 

1101
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,520
ever tried. 
Like that is always, our goal 

1102
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,800
is, is to constantly go there. 
We don't always get it right. 

1103
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,840
We don't always make products 
that really, you know, but 

1104
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,720
that's how we're able to kind of
go through our library and 

1105
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,440
really identify the things that 
really help. 

1106
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,040
Because one of the unique things
in Utah here is we have a start 

1107
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,640
from scratch. 
You can't just go to a nursery 

1108
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,840
like in other States and get, 
you know, tested and proven 

1109
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,080
female types and put them right 
in. 

1110
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,240
You start from seed and whatever
you get, you get. 

1111
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,880
So that takes a long time. 
And I think people are going to 

1112
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:08,840
be really surprised at how much 
the quality of Utah cannabis 

1113
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,560
starts to increase here over the
next 6 to 12 months because I 

1114
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,200
have that opportunity to go to a
lot of different operators and 

1115
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,480
things are definitely turning 
around. 

1116
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:24,160
You get the right people, you 
get things dialed in, and that's

1117
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,920
the expectation because 
otherwise we're doing a 

1118
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,680
disservice to our patients. 
So do you think we should be 

1119
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,840
talking to the other producers 
around here now? 

1120
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,120
I think so. 
I think so, man. 

1121
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,560
I think the challenge is, is 
just finding who the right 

1122
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,200
person to talk to is, right? 
Because you're likely not gonna 

1123
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,400
talk to somebody like me who's 
from Utah, right? 

1124
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,240
Born and raised, lives here. 
Eaton Breeze here. 

1125
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,480
I'm a huge Utah advocate. 
I love this place. 

1126
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,720
Right. 
And most people you might get 

1127
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,320
somebody in a different state in
a different area headquarters 

1128
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,240
and it's really you kind of miss
that element of understanding 

1129
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,120
what's really happening here in 
Utah. 

1130
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,840
And people who live in Utah know
what other people say about us 

1131
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,880
in Utah. 
But we also know how incredibly 

1132
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,880
awesome it is. 
And we're glad that there's the 

1133
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,600
people that kind of stay away, 
but there's there's a lot of 

1134
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,800
people figuring it out. 
I know. 

1135
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,280
Well, when I was out knocking 
doors in Kentucky and they found

1136
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:23,800
out I was Mormon then and from 
Utah, I was asked how like where

1137
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,680
my horns were and I was like 
horns. 

1138
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,440
I thought you were touching your
horns. 

1139
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,440
Hit. 
Question. 

1140
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,520
Yeah, no, legit, like a legit 
question. 

1141
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,520
I was in Louisville, KY and 
someone asked me and then 

1142
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,080
someone else was like, how many 
wives do you have? 

1143
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,080
And I was like, fuck one. 
Like, are you kidding me? 

1144
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,920
Can you imagine more than one? 
Like what is plenty? 

1145
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,440
Why would you need more than 
one? 

1146
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,760
Do you know what it's like? 
Come on, bro. 

1147
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,160
Yeah. 
What's a? 

1148
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,400
What's a no, dude, Brandon, I 
just had to say something. 

1149
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,480
This is just just random 
funniness. 

1150
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,280
But dude, where you have that 
mic, it almost looks like you 

1151
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,760
have a bow tie. 
And I'm just like, dude. 

1152
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,000
You should just put it in the 
middle. 

1153
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,760
Yeah, dude. 
Oh, man, no, dude, I love this 

1154
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,520
combo nerd. 
Because, you know, and it's been

1155
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,120
a lot. 
I mean, as you know, we've 

1156
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,760
developed this relationship over
the years. 

1157
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,760
It's been amazing because of us 
being able to really learn, not 

1158
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,240
just the in a, in a way, just 
because, you know, we've we've 

1159
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,360
really liked your guys's pride. 
You're not giving us like, yeah,

1160
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:35,160
dudes come in grab buckets, but 
you are very careful about what 

1161
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,480
you guys are releasing and 
you're careful about the 

1162
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,600
partners that you white label 
for. 

1163
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,840
They have to fit within your 
guys's ethos. 

1164
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,480
So that is, you know, I, I 
really wanted to say that, you 

1165
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,720
know, from us, it has been quite
an extraordinary experience to 

1166
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,240
to have partake of and 
consistently prefer to go to 

1167
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,160
your guys's products. 
The only problem we have, we're 

1168
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,600
like, man, I mean, we're just 
waiting for the next batch to 

1169
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:09,240
come out because of the nature 
of our show, but it's like it 

1170
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,320
doesn't matter. 
Like we, we started introducing 

1171
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,600
more educational content 
specifically towards the 

1172
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,440
questions that people are 
asking, dedicating full shows to

1173
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,840
those and we're just like, 
sweet, that means we're not 

1174
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,040
doing a strain review. 
We. 

1175
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,480
Can have just smoke. 
Strain specific. 

1176
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,000
We can do whatever strain we 
want this week, it doesn't 

1177
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,240
matter. 
And that's what's awesome. 

1178
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,880
We've even I've even had on the 
show where I've spoke like I had

1179
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,480
when it was a rare, but I had 
some dragonfly flower that had 

1180
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:42,200
been sitting in a tube for a 
while and it still hit as fresh 

1181
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,560
as the day I grounded up. 
So I'm just like and you're 

1182
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,960
going to. 
Love this properly. 

1183
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,760
It can last a really long time, 
man. 

1184
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,920
And, and that, that's reality, 
right? 

1185
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,760
I'd, you know, I would, I would 
challenge anybody to come to our

1186
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,480
facility and look, open up a 
random bin and tell us whether 

1187
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,480
that was just grown one month 
ago or three months ago or six 

1188
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,080
months ago. 
And when you keep it in, in the 

1189
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,160
right, you know, environmental 
conditions, cannabis can last a 

1190
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,920
really long time, right? 
And that's one of the things to 

1191
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,840
also educate people on is like, 
don't just go home and just open

1192
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,120
up your bag and then forget to 
seal it or whatever. 

1193
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,880
Those bags, a lot of them aren't
great at retaining the moisture 

1194
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,840
and keeping those things. 
So sometimes it's nice to be 

1195
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,920
able to have a separate 
container to be able to store it

1196
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,120
in. 
And unfortunately, due to, you 

1197
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,920
know, some state regulations, 
technically that's not legal to 

1198
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,480
remove your product and put it 
into a separate container 

1199
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,040
because you want to be able to 
keep it together. 

1200
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,960
So there are these little 
nuances and challenges that do 

1201
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,800
make it difficult. 
And that goes back to like this,

1202
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,760
OK, that's too recreational yet 
I'm a medical user and that's 

1203
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,920
how I use my product, but I'm 
not allowed to do it. 

1204
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,400
So, you know, but again, these 
are all the things that we have 

1205
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,400
to. 
You. 

1206
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,480
Know because if you're a person 
from the legislator or 

1207
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,960
regulator, you've never used 
cannabis, how could you possibly

1208
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,600
understand and make these rule 
and, and, and decide all this? 

1209
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,880
We should do it this way. 
And you're like, actually how 

1210
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,760
people use it. 
Or see, we want to talk to those

1211
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,280
individuals because we really 
want to be able to, I mean, not 

1212
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,320
in a way to be able to sit there
and just, you know, point 

1213
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,920
fingers at them and and rake 
them over the coals. 

1214
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,240
Not by any means that at all. 
I just want to be able to go, 

1215
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,880
hey, really, we want to 
understand your perspective. 

1216
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,920
Like, why is this so demonized? 
Like, and it just can't be off 

1217
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,840
of anecdotal science and then 
some proven science, right? 

1218
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,440
It's got to be like down to 
their core, despite all the 

1219
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,880
data, it comes down to their 
feelings on this. 

1220
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,440
And that's where we are really 
going into this. 

1221
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,360
Brandon and I both are just 
like, we just want to understand

1222
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,480
what the fear is because 
everybody that I've ever met who

1223
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,960
was like, oh, no way. 
Then they smoke it and then 

1224
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,240
immediately their life changed 
going, why is this illegal? 

1225
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,560
It's the first thing that comes 
to their mind. 

1226
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,440
Why is this illegal? 
And it is that this just the 

1227
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:10,120
more educated consumer. 
And that's what we really were 

1228
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,600
impressed with, with you guys 
really guiding. 

1229
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,200
I mean, the entire experience by
coming into the dispensary is 

1230
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,760
much different from where you'll
feel in other places despite I 

1231
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,359
mean it. 
And it's always a bit of a a 

1232
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,120
wild card when you go to another
dispenser. 

1233
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,399
I'm just going to be honest 
about that. 

1234
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:27,680
Like, you go in there, yeah, you
might get a cool person, you 

1235
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,560
might get a douchebag. 
And but every time we've gone in

1236
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,840
to to Dragonfly, they've always 
treated us like family. 

1237
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,560
So it's been awesome. 
Well, we're a family owned 

1238
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,359
business and we really do 
believe in family values and 

1239
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:41,520
taking care of each other and, 
you know, taking care of our 

1240
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,920
team because, you know, we care 
about what we do. 

1241
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,560
And, you know, most of our 
employees, they could be working

1242
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,800
a lot easier jobs elsewhere, 
right? 

1243
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,279
That, you know, doesn't come 
with the stigma and the shame 

1244
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:56,040
of, you know, cannabis for some 
people, right? 

1245
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:59,840
And that's a big decision and 
sacrifice that a lot of people 

1246
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,359
in the cannabis industry have to
make. 

1247
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:04,160
And so, you know, that's 
something we all kind of share 

1248
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,160
commonly together that we really
do care about what we do. 

1249
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,040
Otherwise we wouldn't be doing 
this this way. 

1250
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,279
Other things where you don't 
have, you know, Big Brother 

1251
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:15,240
looking over your back at every 
single corner and, you know, 

1252
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,080
just being able to operate. 
So it's, it's, it's a challenge,

1253
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,880
you know, but you know, we look 
at it as a privilege, right, 

1254
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,240
Because not very many people get
a opportunity to do this. 

1255
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,319
So, and that's why it's really, 
really important to us that we, 

1256
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:29,800
you know, do everything we can 
to make sure that we take care 

1257
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:32,560
of our patients, take care of 
our, you know, employees and 

1258
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,880
take care of our community 
because this is who we are and 

1259
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:40,439
where we're from. 
Sam, dude, thank you so much for

1260
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,560
spending this time coming back 
to our show. 

1261
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,840
I mean, we'll be gone here, 
hopefully a lot more. 

1262
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,000
We, we learn a lot. 
We learn a lot by being able to 

1263
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,560
you get you got your finger on 
the pulse, not just here in 

1264
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,240
Utah, but across the nation. 
So you've always are trying to 

1265
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,840
be able to see like what can we 
do better here to provide an 

1266
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,320
even better experience that even
rec states may not be able to 

1267
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,160
achieve. 
So thanks again, man. 

1268
01:10:06,440 --> 01:10:09,800
Brandon Parting. 
Words oh brother, I just 

1269
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,520
appreciate you being here. 
It's just a pleasure as always 

1270
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,680
so and everyone tuning in at 
home. 

1271
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,360
We love you guys. 
Thank you so much. 

1272
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:17,760
We'll catch you next week.