1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,080 Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,680 And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,360 about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape flour, 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,800 edibles, strains, and everything in between. 5 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,000 Oh cool, you wait 3 seconds and it exit the setting. 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,600 OK cool, now fuck. Speedy. 7 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:41,160 That's a lot. Oh, you don't have to smoke at 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,320 all. Oh no, I definitely. 9 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,760 Don't have to. No I definitely won't but I'm 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,320 just like fuck dude I don't even take that not even close. 11 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:51,880 Like I thought I was taking big hits before but now I feel 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,440 better. No, that's, that's pretty close 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,280 to what I usually put in, sometimes slightly larger. 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:03,880 So what is it going to now? Five O 9 it's kind of, it's 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,120 heated up. There you go. 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,080 It's going to be a great way to start. 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,760 Slap in the face with some purple platinum garlic. 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Dude, this shit's fucking. Thanks to this bombs Cyclav. 19 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:19,440 Yeah, if you guys don't have it already, go down into the show 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,560 notes can it was code canvas school. 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,200 Save yourself 10% ten. Percent this really killer rig. 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,160 We've been enjoying it today and it is awesome. 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,200 It slaps really hard. Oh yeah. 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,280 I mean, purple platinum garlic does too. 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,720 'Cause like, there's no way I could touch that. 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,560 All right? Yeah. 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,200 Hey, so today we're going to be going a little bit more in depth 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:50,160 into something that really triggers a lot of fear with 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,440 other people and anger. Yeah. 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,520 What's that? Marijuana or weed or cannabis? 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Is a gateway drug. Yeah. 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,160 And being a gateway drug that you know being. 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,840 So what? What is a gateway drug? 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,440 Well, it just means that a drug that you would it's well and and 35 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,640 this is the this is the problem that I have with it. 36 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:17,040 The gateway drug is the the proposed idea is that if you use 37 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,160 cannabis, it's just the gateway into harder substances, which 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,880 is, is really ridiculous because I love the way when I was going 39 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,480 back and forth and trying to find out information and, and 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,760 get some good details from it. The funniest thing was it's 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,920 like, yeah, all of a sudden you smoke pot and then now you're 42 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:40,160 like fucking stealing shit from your parents, pawning it to get 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,200 heroin. And also like, like, it's Grand 44 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,920 Theft Pharma and you're like raiding people's, like you're 45 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:49,280 going to eat all the pain pills. Right, like it's going to send 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,440 you into this crazy stupor and you're going to spiral downhill, 47 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,000 which is really interesting it the. 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Funny because it was popularized during that that time period and 49 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,240 that time period. It was before because back in 50 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:09,160 the 1972, during the Nixon era, they had the Schaefer Report 51 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,240 where they went through and they actually did a bunch of studies 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,280 specifically on marijuana. And their report that they 53 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,000 brought to Nixon was, hey, this is not a gateway drug, and we 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,520 should actually decriminalize it because we found that all the 55 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,280 claims that we've been putting out are false. 56 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,440 I don't think they talked about being a gateway drug. 57 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,360 During the Schaefer report yeah, because it was the gateway drug 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,800 theory that happened back with the Nixon's era. 59 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Now it was really pushed in Reagan's era with the DARE 60 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,960 program and Nancy Reagan. So in the Schafer report the 61 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,360 whole point was to see if there was causation 'cause they were 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,360 worried that it would cause to leading to stronger drugs. 63 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,040 And so that was the whole point and so the Schafer report when 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,080 they brought. It up they actually recommended. 65 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Tunics and like, hey, this is there's a lot of false claims 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,560 we've been stating and we should actually decriminalize this 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,360 because these things that we're saying is actually false. 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,120 And they were like, we're going to ignore that and we're going 69 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,400 to double down. And so they started Nixon's war 70 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,400 on drugs. They brought in Nancy Reagan's 71 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,440 like DARE program, like it became this whole it just 72 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,520 continued to trickle. And you know, it's been a very 73 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:21,440 interesting thing, but there's not been any direct causation 74 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,160 that we've seen. Yeah, I didn't even pull that 75 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,400 up. Well, you've been cutting a lot 76 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:27,920 of this. It's. 77 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Not something new that I've learned. 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,680 That was something I learned about years and years ago. 79 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Well, and that's what I'm, I also like I, I want to know more 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,920 about it because it just sounds so clear cut and dry and it's 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,960 like, hey, I want to know more. So that just makes me like, I'm 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,920 going to dig more into that because it's like, you know, it, 83 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,000 it usually when you hear something like this is the way 84 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,160 it is, It's like it never really is that way. 85 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,720 It there's something behind it, whether it's someone's making 86 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,520 money or someone just feels a certain way because like if you 87 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,040 take Barr, James Barr, who was the attorney general during the 88 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,640 first Trump administration and his the one he had before that, 89 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:10,480 and that guy was like hardcore against cannabis. 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,600 So was Barr so hardcore against cannabis. 91 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,280 And, and all I kept thinking was like, why? 92 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,520 And I knew the other guy because he was a crazy fucking like, 93 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,360 hardcore. Let me show you I'm a Jesus 94 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,000 freak, right? Shove it in your face. 95 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,040 Yeah, big. Time. 96 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,800 Make sure you know. Authoritarian. 97 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,680 Like, how dare you? I have, you know, authority 98 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,520 because power. It's they are right, and that 99 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,240 rightness comes with a air of authority and power because, 100 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,280 well, I am correct. It it it's a. 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,000 It's a a side effect of a cultural something. 102 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,840 That's weird old thing that's. Well, it went from societal to 103 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,920 cultural, because then it be it became a part of their culture, 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,240 right. It was like grandpa, whenever 105 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,520 you talk about black people, right, We just like it was just 106 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:06,400 like but he's he was born in what, the nine different 1900? 107 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,560 1910s. Yeah, 1910s. 108 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,240 And so I mean, yeah, of course his outlook is gonna be 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,000 different. Yeah, but it's a side effect and 110 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,960 it's, it's, it's really weird. The the the reason why I bring 111 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,240 that up is because it's really weird that it's still in 112 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,840 people's heads that this is bad. We got a gateway drug. 113 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:32,240 Yeah, well, it's interesting 'cause even all the discussions 114 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,200 that we've had, like me and my dad over the years, I was 115 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,160 helping him work, remodel an apartment and a tenant was 116 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,960 coming and looking at it or something. 117 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,160 One of the tenants there at the apartments, we were talking and 118 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,160 they were saying something was like, oh, yeah, well, that's why 119 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,120 I smoke weed. And and my dad's like, yeah, 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,680 well, you don't have to be addicted to it. 121 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,040 Or like, oh, he you know, he went off on this thing about 122 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,280 like, oh, well, that can lead to this. 123 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:59,880 I'm like, no, it no, it doesn't. We've had these discussions, 124 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,360 like, why are you going back to this old rhetoric of like, oh, 125 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,440 but it does that. What do you mean? 126 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Like you'll be addicted to cannabis or you'll get addicted 127 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,880 to no. Like it, it can lead you to 128 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,600 harder things like all this other stuff. 129 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,040 And I'm like, there was a study, it was the US versus Netherlands 130 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,000 studies. And they actually found that 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,960 like people in the Netherlands, where they have a lot more 132 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,400 liberal stance on drugs, harder drugs, everything like that, 133 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,520 even cannabis, they found that Americans who had a much more 134 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,200 tighter restrictive legal thing around harder drugs, Americans 135 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,720 were more likely to try harder drugs than people in the 136 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,080 Netherlands. Well, yeah. 137 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,800 And so it was like, OK, so it's not necessarily causation that 138 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,760 like cannabis causes you to do this. 139 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,360 They found that most of those things where it was like, hey, 140 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,880 it's like societal or pressures of. 141 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,280 Causation is not correlation, and so it's it's all. 142 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,320 It's all hearsay. It's all and it's not hearsay, 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,360 but it's all case by case. Like just because like Brandon 144 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,640 smokes a shit load of it and he's like this shits not 145 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,800 touching me anymore. And then also come over and 146 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,840 there's fucking little balloons everywhere and I'm like, dude, 147 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,400 this guys doing black tar heroin off of a fucking spoon with some 148 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,680 insulin needles. And I'm like, you know, that's 149 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,480 tragic, That's horrible. But that is not like that is a 150 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:23,920 big fear of an aging population. And even now, like you used to 151 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,520 start to see like younger kids are like, I don't know, maybe 152 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,840 this isn't for me. And I I agree. 153 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,799 I don't think that they should be touching at a young age and 154 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:35,440 using it and consistent consistently. 155 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,080 Like I know people who did lots and lots and lots. 156 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,799 We talked to the doctor. I'm like, that's great, but 157 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,720 she's she's not. That's the way that I think it 158 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,200 should be looked at on both sides. 159 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:52,240 It's an individual, but it is not the trend because how it 160 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,760 affects us all differently. Yeah, 100% and every strain is 161 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,400 different and like every interaction is different in the 162 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,320 time of day of like hey what foods in your system have you 163 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,280 worked? What's going on in your mind 164 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,240 that day? Like so many differences that 165 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,080 you're like, hey, even this strain where normally it's set 166 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,360 and setting, you know, even Doctor Riley Kirk had talked 167 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,480 about it. Hey, when I try to strain that 168 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,440 normally I'm very comfortable at home or with this I went right 169 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,640 before getting up on stage to go speak and I use the same exact 170 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,040 strain. That's so funny. 171 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,400 Yeah, and she felt super paranoid and had to go take a 172 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,560 step back and like and walk to go, hey, I need to get back to 173 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:36,160 being OK because normally this strain that I'm not displaced 174 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,680 with, I am now displaced because my set and setting is different. 175 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,400 And so even for a seasoned user, who I would say very seasoned 176 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,200 user, she would be at that point would have a very and as a 177 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,360 Doctor Who teaches on cannabis, would have a very robust 178 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,040 understanding of like how cannabis interacts with her 179 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,640 body, like this setting experience, all of that. 180 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,320 And so even her would think, you know, but that's what she took a 181 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,480 step away and went on a walk. Like, hey, I noticed that this 182 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,080 is not giving me the same interaction because I'm not in 183 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,440 the same place. It is really hard to have a, a 184 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,720 specific study test because even like a lot of the tests that 185 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,400 I've looked at now, they've been trying to get more conclusive 186 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,720 data because they're like, well, now we're testing siblings, 187 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,280 we're testing twins. We're doing these types of tests 188 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,080 to try and get more robust studies. 189 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,520 But still, again, there's differences in endocannabinoid 190 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,560 systems. You just might get closer with 191 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:35,320 like the social economical things, the other influences of 192 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,720 like family and religion and culture and society like there 193 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,240 that you're like, OK, we're trying to negate as many 194 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,440 differences as possible to make sure we have as many common 195 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,320 grounds to go, hey, what's and they'll go 1 twin didn't have 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,000 this and 1 twin did. But we didn't notice any 197 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,920 difference of like causation of leading towards like this type 198 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,680 of thing. Yeah, no. 199 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,520 And and that's the thing, like, you know, it is a gateway drug, 200 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,440 though I will admit that is a gateway drug. 201 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,400 It's a gateway drug to having better food. 202 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:11,160 I am a far better cook now. I'm more into every single meal 203 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:17,080 that I prepare is very focused on the experience I had. 204 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,880 My wife always makes fun of me because I judge my food so 205 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,920 harshly. But if the chicken comes out 206 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,240 slightly dry and I know it, I don't like it. 207 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,200 And usually I'm using cannabis while I'm cooking so I'm like, I 208 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,360 can taste things better. I love it when I do because I 209 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,640 don't feel as rushed. I'm more patient and like, OK, 210 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,640 no, this needs this lower temperature. 211 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,080 I need this to create this flavor. 212 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,000 I need to do this instead of like, I'm rushed, I'm stressed. 213 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,800 I'm just going to do this. No, I'm, you know, all this 214 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,600 other shit's still going on. But like, maybe I'm not feeling 215 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,440 quite as rushed. Maybe I'm more focused on it. 216 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Maybe I'm more aware of like everything that's going on. 217 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,800 And so like you said, your dishes are better. 218 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,320 I feel like as a person, like. Introspection. 219 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,520 More connected relationships with myself. 220 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,520 With. With other people because I 221 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,720 found more of me which allows me to like connect better to 222 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,280 others. Yes and no. 223 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,960 It it depends on who you're around. 224 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:18,320 I would say like, you know, where our interactions or our 225 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,800 similar people, we would have these great interactions. 226 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,080 My interactions, my first interactions around like more 227 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,840 people in cannabis. The -1 was your friend Chad. 228 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,400 He was very pushy. He really wanted you to do 229 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,960 everything higher doses and I didn't like that at all. 230 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,120 It's like, you know, that's a negative. 231 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,200 The person, yes. It's a negative and that's what 232 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,200 I'm saying like you, if you're guided, No, I'm not. 233 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,480 I'm not trying to go he's bad. I'm saying if you're guided by 234 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,240 someone like that, you're not going to experience a very 235 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,040 introspective way because you are more focused on the 236 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:01,000 experience of just being high and numb or a euphoric instead 237 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,640 of because it really is. It's an intent when you have 238 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,360 intent going all right, what am I looking for right now? 239 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,240 What do I need? Because if I'm seeking cannabis, 240 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,000 and that's another reason why I like, I, I stopped carrying my 241 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,000 vape pen like even when I go out because I used to just take it, 242 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,040 you know, yeah. And I'm like, no, I'm not going 243 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,600 to do that anymore. Because we, we talked about that 244 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,520 when we were gaming one night. We're just like, I feel like I'm 245 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:25,920 just. I just go. 246 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,840 Time not getting any higher and so it's like, so it it triggers 247 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,680 this response. That's why I was like in the 248 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:36,280 last episodes I was talking about like, man, maybe you 249 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,000 should be looking. If you're using a lot of the 250 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,320 vape pen, that's usually a good sign that something's going on. 251 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,800 And then that's a time to be introspective. 252 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,840 Yeah, maybe what you're smoking on is just amping you up and 253 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,120 you're like, fuck, maybe I needed something to kind of 254 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,920 chill me out. And those introspective ones, 255 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:58,200 those ones have helped me open up more to ideas and thoughts 256 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,840 and, and not trying necessarily like I was narrow sided, but I'm 257 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,520 open to interpretation. But I'm also open that I don't 258 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,280 have to agree with anybody. No. 259 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,160 But I would say you, you definitely from my perspective 260 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,320 seem like you have a much broader perspective since you've 261 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,320 introduced cannabis. Oh, absolutely. 262 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,280 But I mean, The thing is, it's like, you know, a lot of people 263 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,480 use substances these days because it's a weird fucking 264 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,720 world. Well, it's constantly. 265 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,960 Everyone's medicated, whether it's a medicine of like pills or 266 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,360 something else from their doctor. 267 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Oh no, I'm not just saying that. I mean, but I mean we see an 268 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,480 Upwork. All using something to manage 269 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,000 life. Right, right, and. 270 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,760 Most people, whether it's they're going to alcohol or 271 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,960 they've got SSRIs or whatever it is, most people are using 272 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,720 something, some sort of substance that's not themselves. 273 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,080 No, but I'm just what I'm saying is, is that it's it's been a 274 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,640 increasing like crazy amount. Of I could say that of 275 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,880 percentage of people. Oh. 276 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Way more because of how. Especially in the United States, 277 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,960 we have a really. High the entire world is crazy 278 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,880 right now on it, you know, and it's but the reason why is it 279 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,240 you weird like inducing it. It's like an induced 280 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,000 schizophrenia. You have constant voices around 281 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,360 you non-stop in your ear, on your screen in front of you. 282 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,240 You, you. Dude, back in the day, if you 283 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,160 saw somebody talking to themselves on the street, you'd 284 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,240 be like that poor guy is sick. Now he's having a conversation. 285 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,120 Oh yeah, and he could be talking to himself. 286 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Who cares? We we have just kind of like, 287 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,480 yeah, no big deal. Yeah, the only difference 288 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,440 between the crazy person and the not crazy, not crazy person is 289 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,200 one person has a headphone in their ear. 290 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Yeah, pretty much. Right. 291 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,160 Well, even that, I mean, it's, you know, people are are. 292 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,600 And that's the thing too with cannabis is that it's it is a 293 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,360 gateway drug to melt a lot of good things, but it also can be 294 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,640 for bad things. You can abuse cannabis. 295 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,520 Yeah. You can abuse a lifestyle. 296 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,120 Anything else? Yeah, right, right. 297 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,120 And so it's, you know, it's, it's not a cure all, it's a 298 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,120 tool. Predispositioned like 299 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,160 genetically or other things that it's like, hey, you're, you're 300 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,680 prone to seeking out something, whether it's cannabis, alcohol, 301 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,560 some type of thing, escapism, like a lot. 302 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,840 There are some of us who are more prone to that than others, 303 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,720 just genetically, yeah. Not that every single person is, 304 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,600 but there are some. Who? 305 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Have higher tendencies and things that we just. 306 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,760 Yeah. I mean, you know, you take 307 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:36,720 alcoholism or babies born on heroin or meth, like they're 308 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,600 immediately addicted to that, right? 309 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,160 And it it goes down the bloodline. 310 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,360 Like I have serious alcoholism on my mom's side. 311 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,120 And and so that was, you know, always a worry, but I never felt 312 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,440 like I wanted to drink all the time, ever. 313 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,960 Not because of that. That didn't get me going. 314 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Oh, no. Yeah. 315 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,520 My family was always the same. They're like, oh, alcoholism 316 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,200 runs in here, 'cause this grandpa did the crate, someone 317 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,800 did this and I was like, OK, so don't drink. 318 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,200 And then I found so funny. I really really liked drinking 319 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,079 for a bit, but I don't know if it was 'cause I really liked 320 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:14,200 drinking or if it was just. Social aspect so. 321 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,880 Sheltered. And it was like, Oh my gosh, 322 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,240 this is a whole new experience of something I've never had. 323 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,640 And then it became a, a darker depressive like thing of like, 324 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,280 well, now I'm just numbing. Yeah, I'm numbing life because 325 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,520 life's really shitty. So now I'm drinking to numb that 326 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,680 pain. And that's not, that's more 327 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,880 escapism of like, I'm trying to get away from life. 328 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,120 So I need to drink, you know? And and now I actually like I 329 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,520 don't. Every once in a while I have a 330 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,640 craving for the flavor of like an alcohol drink, but I don't 331 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,240 really have a craving for like the feeling. 332 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,880 No, I I lost it all last time. Like I told you, wife and I our 333 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:55,160 last anniversary. Felt like shit afterwards. 334 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,960 Oh, dude, I hated it. Yeah, absolutely hated it. 335 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,520 Mm hmm. I was like. 336 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,360 Oh yeah, well, Emily had done her 75 hard. 337 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,760 She had two drinks during that entire time, basically when I 338 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,080 chose to have a drink. And she was like, OK, And for 339 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,040 her, that's crazy. And then at the end of her 75 340 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,080 heart, she had a drink. She was like, oh, I want to have 341 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,120 a Margarita just to celebrate. And she had two. 342 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,320 And she was like, that was the worst decision I have done. 343 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:28,600 Like, I feel so garbage. She was like, and is this why 344 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,200 you don't drink? And I'm like, yeah, because I 345 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,880 started feeling like crap every time. 346 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,280 And it was like, why would I? Why would I do this? 347 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,360 Enjoy. This again, it's it's it's like 348 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,160 there's there's home cooked meals, there's fast food and 349 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,920 then there's street food in India and that is drinking to me 350 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,960 because it is so like, like I might get the shits, I might 351 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,440 throw up. Oh yeah. 352 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,640 Like I'm not checking I might have tapeworm, who knows? 353 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,880 The Montezuma's revenge for India. 354 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,720 Oh dude, no. Montezuma's revenge there too. 355 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Oh no dude, I mean you just look in a lot of places with an 356 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,360 Indian. Not all of India has a massive 357 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:15,320 place, but there are places in India where their their water is 358 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,200 mixing with their sewage. Oh yeah, there was a video 359 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,960 maybe. Remember I showed you that one. 360 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,120 Yeah, and. He's literally like. 361 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,440 They're like pouring raw. Seeds 30 feet down the stream 362 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,200 from him and I was like. Yeah, right. 363 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,320 But it's like gross. That's the way I treat drinking 364 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,600 now because I, I have, I remember when I was younger, but 365 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,920 I remember because my body was experiencing these things for 366 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,480 the first time and I was around other people. 367 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,920 And again, it's always set and setting. 368 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,320 Like, you know, I, I, I typically had good experiences 369 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,520 drinking. I would hang out, we would do 370 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,240 silly things. We, we would have fun, play 371 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,720 practical jokes because we're just acting like kids. 372 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,920 And then the other part is getting in fights and stuff like 373 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,200 that. And I still see that as a 374 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,120 positive thing because I didn't, I didn't mind. 375 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:06,840 I like that that that rush, but it is. 376 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Now I just don't see it the same way. 377 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,680 Like, I mean, try to convince me to do something bad on cannabis. 378 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,160 Let's go fuck up somebody's car. It's like. 379 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,680 Let's go get in a fight like. No. 380 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,040 And The thing is, it'll make you way more likely to think about 381 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,480 it and overthink about it instead of go. 382 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,360 Yeah, I know. That sounds like a smart idea. 383 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:29,280 Let's go do it. Well, and another thing, it's a 384 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,680 gateway drug for two is open up to new music, opening up to new 385 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,080 genres of fiction, whether it be movies or books or games. 386 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,000 Like I played more games that I never would have thought I would 387 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,280 play. I was like shooting everything 388 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,360 right and. Yeah. 389 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 And then and I was really, I still am. 390 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,640 I'm really good at those games, but I like role-playing games 391 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,640 now. I like depth, I like story, I 392 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,240 like I like to be frustrated. I like challenge and I like to 393 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,760 go deeper in that. And then I like to read fictions 394 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,840 that I would normally. I gave up fiction for a really 395 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,480 long time. I just didn't enjoy it because I 396 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,720 thought I needed to constantly fill my brain. 397 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,440 But sometimes it's great to be able. 20 years I gave up 398 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,320 fiction. Yeah, I'm yeah about that too. 399 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,320 That's nuts because I read so much growing up and then as soon 400 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,480 as I graduated high school, I was like, I'm, I'm done. 401 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,360 I don't, I don't want to read. I don't want to read. 402 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,480 And then after that I got back into business books and like 403 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,840 other books and history books and stuff. 404 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,280 And it was really hard to get into fiction. 405 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,600 I don't, I don't know what it was. 406 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:46,880 No, it's it's hard because it you, it just your tastes change 407 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,640 man. It's the same with alcohol. 408 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,680 Like am I shitting on alcohol? No, like if, if that's your jam, 409 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,280 cool, dude, it's straight poison. 410 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,440 I mean, if shit will take off paint and clean you. 411 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,840 I know now I'm like, I think of it that way. 412 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,720 I'm like, fuck, I don't, I don't know why I do it, but sometimes 413 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,080 it helps. You know, it's been great for 414 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,120 like when people have like, dude, there are so many old 415 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,680 school Mormons around here that still have whiskey in their 416 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,600 medicine cabinet. Really. 417 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,520 Yeah, they'll take like my grand. 418 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,080 My wife's grandmother, every time she had a cough, Grandpa 419 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,880 dedicated Morgan like crazy about it, right? 420 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,440 He would get her like a couple. Dedicated. 421 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,600 More Yeah dude like he's a robot dude like that's Yeah, they are 422 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,120 all he's like he's just like the. 423 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,360 Super Pious are incredibly robotic and. 424 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,920 They're just, they're just so afraid that somebody will see 425 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,040 the, the dents in their armor. Like, you know, I I love my 426 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,800 wife's grandfather, but you know, the way he talks about it, 427 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,320 he's going to take care of the whole world that gives all this 428 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,960 money to all these Galatian people and these Thai people and 429 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,840 Vietnamese people in the ward. Yeah. 430 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,640 You wouldn't help out his own his own kids. 431 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,160 He wouldn't help out his own kids when they were trying. 432 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,360 He had tons of money and he's giving it to these communities. 433 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,600 Like, I would give him shit. And I'm like, hey, they going to 434 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,240 build you a golden statue out there in Thailand? 435 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,840 I thought it was funny. It was like the year that really 436 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,560 struggled, lost my job was dealing with court stuff with 437 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,280 the kids. Oh yeah, everything all at once. 438 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,360 And I was still helping my dad when he needed help and he paid 439 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,240 me hardly anything at the end of the year. 440 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,040 He was bragging about how much he gave to the church because he 441 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,760 wasn't able to do tithing. So he just gave it at the end of 442 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,960 the year because the Bishop came around going, hey, it's 443 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,640 Christmas time. We could use a donation. 444 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,000 Would you? Would you help some families? 445 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,720 And so my dad was like, well, I wasn't able to give tithing, so 446 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,040 I just paid it all at once. And I had massive lump sum. 447 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,000 And I was like, here and look, look at what I did. 448 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,640 And I'm like, cool, I bet that made you feel so good, didn't 449 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,560 you Like. That's so funny dude. 450 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,800 But that's it's the very pious, like, oh, Jesus is going to look 451 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,320 at me and go, hey, you gave so much money. 452 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,600 I'm so proud of you. Isn't that funny to you? 453 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,840 I'm. So proud of you. 454 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,760 And and that's another thing too, like a gateway drug to 455 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,960 being able to kind of explore your faith if if you have faith, 456 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,960 whatever it may be. It's one thing that I've really 457 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,240 enjoyed about cannabis is that it is brought me closer to to my 458 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,880 God, the to to that your. Connection and belief. 459 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,280 Is, yeah. And and then I'll leave it at 460 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,480 that because. Of that looks like. 461 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,920 And, and some of you may be going through that, you know, 462 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,680 but the other thing that's been really cool is the type of 463 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,320 people that I would talk to cannabis consumers are all walks 464 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,040 of life. Yeah. 465 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,400 And I unfortunately, because where I grew up, how I was 466 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,720 raised, I just had this different view of different 467 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,800 people. Oh no dude. 468 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,240 And the big reason why was because stoners look like 469 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,560 stoners. Oh, yeah, or, or even bikers or 470 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,680 people with like tattoos or piercings and stuff. 471 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,040 I was raised as like, oh, they're bad people. 472 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,520 Like look out and I'm like, and then I rode motorcycles and hung 473 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,840 out with bikers and got tattoos. And I realized all these people 474 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,520 are just people. And some of them are way better 475 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,880 than the incredibly pious people that I saw who were so well 476 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,840 presented and dressed and so eloquent and, and all of this. 477 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,160 And yeah, yes. And then I go and I see this 478 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,160 biker or this other person. I'm like, they have the most 479 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,240 honest, loving heart. They are the most real person. 480 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,120 And they would do anything for me or anyone else, not just, 481 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,680 hey, is God watching? Is my neighbor watching? 482 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,480 Like I, I should show up like this. 483 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,720 And I'm like, that's what I loved is I realized I didn't 484 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,400 have to fear people so much. I learned to love the diversity, 485 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,480 all the difference of people and go holy shit, like you're so 486 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,840 unique on your own. You're so fucking different than 487 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,400 me. That's amazing. 488 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,680 I wish that I could be more unique like you because I feel 489 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,640 like I'm so much of all these other. 490 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,960 But it's, it's awesome too, because it was a blank canvas at 491 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,800 that point where you could go and explore. 492 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,120 And you know, I, that's the one thing that I, I, I think is so 493 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,720 cool about cannabis. People like, dude, how many 494 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,920 people I've met in business, regular life in my, in my church 495 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,760 around other people like randomly like that. 496 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,640 Dude sitting on the side of the road where we smoked a bowl with 497 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,760 and it was like. Or that woman out there that 498 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,240 we're going to have on our podcast. 499 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,000 Yeah, she, I mean, her life is completely changed with 500 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,240 cannabis. And it's so cool to watch and 501 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,080 see. And it's like, dude, she would 502 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,040 be the quintessential of scary. But you know, when you're at a 503 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,920 place in your life where you're just like, yeah, well, what 504 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,440 could it fucking do? That's what really like, I think 505 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,360 that's what for me stemmed why this show really exists was like 506 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,360 because grandma when I started making her edibles and I saw her 507 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:53,120 go from like having to be, she was on fentanyl and she went 508 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,960 from that to not having chronic migraines, not having it, not to 509 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,000 use any of that. And she weaned herself off 510 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000 cannabis too because she was like, I don't need this 511 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,600 eventually, but like that change in her mindset and her quality 512 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,960 of life. And then, like, I've not met 513 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,560 this lady yet, but you've told me the experiences, and it feels 514 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,920 so incredible to just go, hey, I saw that person's life got 515 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,200 better, and it was just something stupid and simple. 516 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,200 And all I had to do was talk to them and care enough about them 517 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,160 to go, hey, I see that you're struggling. 518 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,680 You're hurting this, like, and maybe maybe this helps. 519 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Maybe it doesn't. Yeah. 520 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,760 But I see that you're really having this hard time, and this 521 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,320 might be something that's worth trying. 522 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,360 Well, and that's the thing man. Like I, you know, I wanted to 523 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,160 kind of wrap it up with the, you know, this is a gateway drug 524 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,400 into introspection if you want it to be. 525 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,480 It's a gateway drug to less pain. 526 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,440 I'm not going to say it's going to take away all your pain. 527 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,080 Some people it works great. I still have pain, but it'll 528 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,840 take away a good portion of it. Yeah, so I can function like a 529 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,400 normal person or like that Lady who can move and do shit that 530 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,880 she wasn't able to. Do so. 531 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,920 I mean, she was on oxygen, so it. 532 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,560 Still is, but yeah, a gateway to a better life if you utilize it 533 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,240 as a tool and you're using it in, you know, proper dosing, 534 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,320 proper methods, not trying to go crazy high and see if you can 535 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,560 fly to the moon 'cause you can still experience euphoria and 536 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,440 all of those fun things if that's what you're looking for 537 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,320 without going overboard. Yeah, and you know, for those 538 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,880 parents or grandparents, 'cause I know there's a lot of amazing 539 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,440 grandparents that listen to this podcast as well. 540 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,560 Hey, if if you find that your kid or your grandkid is using 541 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,880 cannabis, don't, don't come down on them punitively. 542 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,880 You're teaching them that this is bad. 543 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,320 So just saying, hey, what's going on? 544 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880 Like, are you having difficulty right now? 545 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,080 Is is this helping you instead of going like you're not 546 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,080 supposed to do it because the law says like yeah I understand 547 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,440 that but if that was the truth then you wouldn't be giving your 548 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,280 kids Nyquil and shit back in the day because it was alcohol in it 549 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,360 and not some other random it. They just put like Benadryl in 550 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,520 it now. Lame. 551 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,160 Nyquil used to be awesome anyways, but you know. 552 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,360 Bring back Nyquil. But. 553 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,080 But cocaine? Cocaine. 554 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,600 Oh, dude, dude, that the rival. How am I going to go off a dead 555 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360 you? But no, it's a it's a gateway 556 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,000 drug into something different than where you're at right now. 557 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,400 And allow those who are coming up, you got to teach them about 558 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,760 this, Don't. I? 559 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,200 I would really, really encourage you to share if you are keeping 560 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,120 this from your family members. If they're crazy zealots, don't 561 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,200 don't. It might not be the don't do it. 562 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,800 Just don't do it. You already know the outcome, 563 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,200 but if you've got people around you that love you, respect you, 564 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,640 and they want to see you happy, explain it to them. 565 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,200 Explain it that this not why you're using it. 566 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,080 Start talking about the the positive things of reasons why 567 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,280 you've looked into it, where you've come up to, and then 568 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,880 you've made a decision. That's it. 569 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,280 You're not asking for permission. 570 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,720 And often it kind of feels like that when you need to go, Hey, I 571 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,800 got to tell you something like like my sister texting me in the 572 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,440 middle of it. Like it does kind of feel like 573 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,840 permission when you're trying to hide it from your parents or 574 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080 something. Like even as an adult, it took 575 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,120 me so long to open up to my parents. 576 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,880 Granted it wasn't legal even in the state at that point. 577 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,920 It was just like, hey, this has helped here, here, here. 578 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,840 Like even your church is OK with it in medical use. 579 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,720 Like look at all these states that they have this. 580 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,800 Oh yeah, dude. And and it was just like trying 581 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,720 to put it in a perspective of helping them actually understand 582 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,000 it. And it took years before and 583 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,680 then it was like, OK, hey, you probably have already known, but 584 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,960 I've been had cannabis in my system every single time you've 585 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,320 seen me for 3-4 years now. Every time you would have seen 586 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,000 me, I would be what you would classify as high. 587 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,240 And yet you wouldn't notice any difference because you had no 588 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,120 idea until I tell you. Dude, my dad, I've ever one time 589 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,960 I, I, I brought a bag from your place to mine and I didn't have 590 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,240 like a a smell proof. And so it was like in the middle 591 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080 console thinking, Oh, I'm not going to smell. 592 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:12,880 Anything. Yeah. 593 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,800 Fucking hell yeah, that that was really. 594 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,120 It fucking smelled awful. Unless it's like, really shitty. 595 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,960 But it was really good smell of wheat. 596 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,920 So I was like, this shit smells good. 597 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,160 I picked up my dad later on, the smell was still in my car. 598 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,560 And my dad gets in the car and he goes, why do I smell 599 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,480 marijuana? Jesse? 600 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,240 Enough said. Because there was marijuana in 601 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240 my car, dad. And they just stared at him and 602 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,120 he goes, you really shouldn't be doing that while you're driving. 603 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,800 You really shouldn't be telling people what to do. 604 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,560 Dad just go funny. But it's like, I don't care. 605 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Like, you know what? I told my mom I'm like, hey, I'm 606 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,760 smoking cannabis. Mom goes same. 607 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,600 Oh man, what do you want, right? See, that would be great. 608 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,080 I would love to maybe one day. No, my, my dad did. 609 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,120 My dad used cannabis later on, Yeah. 610 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,600 And I mean, he was totally. Helped him navigate a lot of 611 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,120 stuff and I think that was amazing. 612 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,000 Yeah. He was not currently consuming 613 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,800 though, right? No, he doesn't currently 614 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:13,800 consume, but for a while when he was struggling with alcoholism, 615 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,880 yeah, And there was a lot of depression. 616 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,000 Like, I was like, you've been drinking that long, but it was 617 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,480 the amount every day. Oh yeah, retired. 618 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,680 That's what gets. You COVID. 619 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,800 Yeah. In his house alone, yeah. 620 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,760 Fuck, dude. Well, well, that's what mine 621 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,560 was. Because I was divorced half the 622 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,720 time my kids weren't home, so it was me alone at home and it was 623 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,360 like. I don't want to feel like shit. 624 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,240 And so my light nights were like 6 to 8 beers and Oh yeah. 625 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,080 And then it got to like, oh cool, I could drink a 12 pack 626 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,800 and be just fine. There was a night that, yeah, 627 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,920 and I've always been small. So it was like I had one night I 628 00:32:53,920 --> 00:33:00,320 had 13 beers and like 3-3 shots of something and something else 629 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,960 and I was still just fine. Like I wasn't chip faced and but 630 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,320 granted it was over a decent amount of time but like it was a 631 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,160 problem. Yeah, a problem. 632 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,200 Definitely a problem. And that's I. 633 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,960 Metabolize so fast too so it was like I could drink. 634 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,080 Forever yeah because it would just go right through you yeah 635 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720 yeah I know and it's the same with like cannabis with you 636 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,240 unfortunately because it's it's just because of keep doing that 637 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,480 because you metabolize it so quickly so it's you know it it's 638 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200 good to know a lot of different things before you start getting 639 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,080 into cannabis but at the same time you know is this a gateway 640 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,840 drug yeah totally it's a 100% gateway drug you just need to 641 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,400 make a decision on how that's good what gateway it's going to 642 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,120 take you down the one thing that I I I was going through is that 643 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,120 it is the vehicle but it is not the destination so it's just a 644 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,360 tool it's not a cure all it's not going to fix you but if you 645 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,840 allow it to like like a lot of people that we know ourselves 646 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,639 when you allow this to act as like a reflection tool to help 647 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:17,400 you navigate life better in a way yeah but it's a it's again 648 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,679 it's a vehicle it just depends on where you want to go well. 649 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,840 And you might find in times that evaluating your relationship 650 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,280 with cannabis, there's times where your vehicle is parked up 651 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,719 on the mountainside watching the sunset for a while because 652 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,120 life's really fucking stressful. And other times that vehicle 653 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,920 might be on the highway, you know, going in a really good 654 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,760 direction because you're hyper focused. 655 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,360 And you know, your vehicle might have all sorts of different 656 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,719 trips that you take in life, but it just. 657 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,719 You know, what's great about it and being a tool is that 658 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,840 cannabis can just kind of tweak things just for you to be able 659 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,960 to fix everything. But. 660 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,120 Use it as a gateway to tune in next week, yeah? 661 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:00,320 And make sure to go check out Cannabis School. 662 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,320 And check out the bomb on Cycloud because. 663 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,760 Yeah, go into the. That thing's fantastic. 664 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,240 That thing is cool. We, we. 665 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,880 This is awesome. All right, guys, take care.