Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles.
And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you
about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape.
Flour, edibles, strains. And everything in between.
Hey kids. Welcome back.
Yeah, so today we've got ourselves a fun little strain.
It is a quite pleasant strain, isn't it?
Yeah, it's good. It goes straight to the head
cottonmouth. It hits me like right away.
I don't feel like it's, Oh no, it's a little bit clicky, yeah.
Yeah, it's weird it, but it's like it's like from the outside
going in. So today's strain is.
Animal tsunami. It's coming in like a flood and
my. Pants are soaked.
Gross. Yeah.
And that answers a lot of questions, a lot of questions.
But I got to say that this what is very fast on set for this is
a hybrid. Indica Leaning.
Yeah, 70% indica. So pretty much an indica one.
But again, it always comes down to the terps.
Yeah, like I, I feel like this one isn't heavily into cleaning
right now. It's made by crossing animal
cookies with Caramel Tsunami. Caramel Tsunami just sounds
awesome. Both of those sound really
tasty. I've not tried.
It's probably got like really sweet notes.
Caramel sauce. Oh my.
Gosh yeah, could you imagine a caramel E flavored cannabis?
Yes. That would be.
I mean taste. We've had really sweet ones.
Of course our. I feel like it would feel sized.
Key Lime was delicious. Right from who do we have that?
I think that was in there. No, I.
Thought that was a California grow.
It was and it was in. We just had that in a small
bubbler. Did we only have a tiny little
bit of flour on that one or did we?
Oh that was so delicious though. Oh, yeah, I remember that.
Remember that. The jars, all the little jars.
Oh yeah. And we would just go through
them. Who was this man?
Man, we we had a lot of really good times and we still do, but
this one. So it's bred by Tsunami Seedco.
I guess that's where the seed genetics come from.
Oh, I'm feeling a little sleepy. Dude I felt pretty chill.
It's very in my head feeling though.
Slow but not, I add that happens to me sometimes.
Heavy miracing, heavy carefully. So the top terpenes in this one
I think are lemonine, miracine and caryophaline.
Sometimes also has pineene and humaline in there as well.
I feel like this one is a very slow but not as in I feel
Dumber, but as in I feel like life has slowed down.
Yeah, well, I mean you got the with lemonine.
I really like about that is that it's the cut through the
tightness of the chest none 0 so it must have a decent amount in
there. No heart racing, no tightness,
no. And I find that through any kind
of cart, whether it's live rosin, live resin, or a disti,
mostly distis, distis will get my heart a little elevated and
not feel great. Your live resin and rosins,
they're good. He's kind of a little weird,
tired at first, like I'm yawning right now and it's like, I
don't, I mean, I probably got like 5 hours of sleep last
night, but that's a good night for me.
Any more than that I start feeling like oh.
Dude, I feel like I would have to start trying to do cocaine or
something if I was getting five hours of sleep at night.
It's just sort of snorting my coffee grounds.
I used to be worse, used to be a lot worse.
My wife called me the machine. I could sleep for 2-3 hours and
go for 20. She's just like you're insane.
I'm like Nope, that's just keep going.
My sister Jackie, she sleeps for like 3 hours and then she's
nursing and she's in this on the side because she's like well
I've got time. She's always crocheting and
knitting stuff. But then she's decided to pick
up a job for the hospital as well, where she can call
patients and like, do something else.
And she's. Got to do something.
Yeah, it's that weird, sick issue.
Yeah. Like I've always got to be
dating. It to you guys.
I've always got to be doing something.
Yeah, you can't be sitting still.
If you're sitting still, you're Dude, that explains your brother
Alec, why he's even doing DoorDash and all that.
She. Makes great money, your brother
does fantastic, and yet he doordashes in all of his free
time. I don't think Thomas has a side.
Doesn't do side. Yeah, he does and he doesn't get
paid for it. Curtis has clients because after
he left that IT company and well, it was a shitty company
and his clients realized that he was the reason why they were in
business. So many of them have gone to him
of like, hey, I need you to do my IT work.
And he's just done it for them for free on the side.
He they'll be like, oh, I'll pay you.
And he just hasn't sent invoices.
He just goes and helps them. So he's gone and he'll be like,
Oh yeah, I was out in Alaska for this many days doing this setup
for this one. And then right after that I was
back for about 16 hours before I flew to Texas for three days.
And then I came back and I spent my weekend helping this company
do their IT because that was when I had time to do it.
I'm like bro. It's because he forgets.
I mean, it's not because he doesn't.
Oh, that's. What the money has.
He just, he just forgets and then he just.
Doesn't care. Yeah, he does.
When we were talking about it and he was like, I don't know,
like it's not a big deal. Well, maybe it's his side of
like trying to serve people. It could definitely be that.
I mean, for him, a lot of this stuff is really easy.
But that's the cool thing, dude. I mean, it's the good with the
bad. Oh, by by the way, that company
is called Alakazam. IT you can shit all over that if
you can. Don't go with him, he doesn't
work there so you have. A small IT company if you guys
get a chance to go over there. I'm not trying to be mean to
that one. That guy has been awful to
people for so many years. I hope you're listening to his
Gavin. Go fuck yourself anyway.
But in all seriousness, go fucking.
Yeah, go fuck yourself, but and then the Christian side of me
goes, but I hope you little bit prosperous like anyways, but as
long as you don't fuck people over.
So fuck yourself. But this is a good straight, OK,
So when you get past that like and I think it's something like
a side effect for me with Karyophylline.
Makes you feel a little sleepy, just a little bit.
But it's not like I want to go to bed.
It's like all yarn or I'm feeling just like really
relaxed. This would be like cool, like if
if my mind could allow me to do this, which it couldn't because
it's got too much shotgun on it, but I would love to smoke this
and just sun just get some sunnies just.
Oh yeah. By the pool.
So even though I don't this. One says that it it does have a
lot of euphoria that leads to a fantastic body high and can lead
to couch lock. So potentially high doses, you
know, well, I think it's all relative because it's like the
God, what was the God's plan? No, it wasn't God's plan.
There was a strain that was God something and Mike was like, oh,
you've got to try this. This puts our grower on his ass
and puts him to bed like one hit and that's like one or two hits.
I'm like, oh, OK, cool. And I get out there and he gets
me a card of it and I'm puffing on it and I'm puffing on it and
I'm puffing on it like it's nice.
It takes out like some of the pain in my back.
And it's, it's pretty chill, Yeah.
But I think it just, it's
relative. Everyone's experience is
different. Every.
Yeah, like. You know, I mean, you get those
like, I'm not saying that we're really, really, really smart in
cannabis. There's a lot of things we still
are learning, but we're always learning.
We're always learning about this planet.
And when you talk to the people that are like, dude, you should
like one of the comments, you guys need to start growing.
And I'm like, yeah. But you know, The thing is, it's
just knowing a lot about the product is awesome because then
you start being able to see things as like answers.
Well, I love the idea of it though.
They were like, oh, you should start growing.
I'm like 100% if we lived in a legal state I'd love to start
growing or even having a company that we partner with of like
this is genetic we would like to create.
Yeah, yeah, these. Terpenes and that like that
style of growing, not that I need to.
Have to be in. The dirt of it, unless it's at
my house and it's legal and I can do that.
Yeah, if you do it on your own. I would love to, but past that,
like I don't want to go have an entire farm.
I don't want to deal with all of that.
Like that's a lot of work and I would love someone who has that
care and passion for that day-to-day of doing that on a
large scale and creating something.
But if we could, I think that we would have a better design
product because we would think that from a better approach, we
would have not these crazy hedy Stoney looking products and
stuff. The quality, the experience
would be very crafted, very specific and I agree, better
quality. I think right now we're at the
the very beginning of the golden age of cannabis and and why I
state that is that we're starting to see more products
come out, not just, you know, the plant product, we'll excuse
that completely, but apparatuses, you know, bog.
Devices, yeah. Yeah, dude, these devices are
stepping up. We recently were sent a bunch of
amazing stuff from Doctor Dabber.
You know he's got the Doctor Dabber switch too.
I've been rocking the Boost Evo and I got to tell you man, these
are the highest quality dab rigs I have ever tried.
I love it even more than the less doctor dabber.
Swigg yeah, exactly. I'm just like wow, this is so
you know, and that's the difference.
Like you're like, oh, this is awesome.
Like I love the bomb Cycloud, but at the same time it's not a
doctor dabber. And it it goes to say that, you
know, the high quality products that you invest into when you're
using this, it needs to be the same as almost like in the
fitness area. Like if you have shitty fitness
equipment, you're going to get by, but it'd be better to have
just a little bit higher grade. Yeah.
And then utilize it the best you can, not keep adding more shit
onto it. It's even like learning an
instrument. I realized that so much with the
first guitar I had. Yeah, was, I had like $100
guitar or something and the strings were cheap.
Like everything about it was cheap.
The fret was like very wide and spread out and stuff.
And it wasn't a great guitar. And I actually, I tried to learn
on it and I was watching videos on YouTube and stuff and the guy
was like, oh, if you have a really, really cheap guitar,
it's going to make it actually really hard to play.
It'll be harder to produce a good sound.
It'll be harder to like have a clean sound.
It'll hurt your hands more and like all this stuff.
And it's like, oh man. And so I went on Marketplace and
I found like I used actual Fender guitar and I only spent
100 bucks on that used and yet it changed my playing like 10X
just from having something that was mid grade versus like a
cheap shitty bottom shelf. Do you remember that black
guitar I bought for my son? I don't know if you were with
me, but I I bought it in Provo and he dude, like I didn't think
he'd ever. Yeah, I showed him a couple
things that I knew and I'm like, you know, it's the woulda coulda
shoulda thing. I'm like, yeah, I should set
some time aside, but it's exactly that.
When you're playing on a lower grade guitar, it's a lot harder.
I used to think that my Fender was great, but it's not.
They used to be great, Yeah. And they're not bad.
They're not bad, but they are a high end cheap guitar.
Yeah, and but then I played on my other buddy's guitar.
He had a Gibson and dude, like it was so much easier to play.
The strings were just, they were weird ways softer.
When you play with shitty $5 strings, well, that's what I
that hurts your fingers, dude. It's a mass of blisters.
When I bought that Fender, I replaced the strings, so I
bought nicer strings on it and that changed the experience too.
And I was like, OK, well, getting a better bass, getting
like new strings that are good, putting that like it changes the
experience and you want to play it.
It's like even with cannabis, if you're having this bottom shelf
distillate or like, oh, hey, it's the, this is their flower.
Look, it was like $80.00 or $100 for the oz.
Well, there's probably a reason why you're paying $80.00 or $100
for that oz. It's not because it's the best
experience or the best quality, you know?
And that's why you're getting the entire oz at that price.
And and then you look at that and you're like, well, my
experience is way better if I just bump that up and.
Well, that's what I'm saying like with growers too, I am, you
know, and it directly comes from us as cannabis consumers that we
actually dictate why we get the products we get.
For all those who are just out there who have now switched from
nicotine vapes to just vaping THC, you guys are bringing the
distillate companies to the horrible realization that
cheaper is better on their side and that you'll buy more.
It's a horrible product. It's not great.
It is the last line of defense. This is that shitty gas station
partially expired sandwich that you hazardly bought, but you
took it with you anyways. Or the hot dog that's been
rotating since 8:00 that morning and it's 9:30 at night.
Don't worry my Fred, go ahead. And after the order, it's fresh.
It put it out like 60 minutes ago.
Don't worry my friend. What?
What $1.75? Just like it's a steal.
So this one's actually supposed to be a pretty high THC
percentage, like 20 fives to like even mid 30s even in just
flour. That's a lot.
Yeah. Often times for new consumers,
even experienced users, supposedly it's more of like a a
one hit it and quit it experience where you take a good
hit and then you're just kind of content.
I wish that was the case because most people don't.
I I would feel there's very rare people that I meet going.
I've had this car for six months and it's a half ground.
Might be like. Oh, yeah, yeah, no.
And it's cool. If you're a tourist, that's
totally fine. Cool.
We welcome you here. But at the same time, it's like
once you start, you start being able to utilize cannabis and
you're using it on the day, on the daily or on the rag, you
know, every other day or whatever.
Just once a time out of the day, you start to develop a
subconscious addiction where you'll just keep puffing because
it's there. I've had like 6-7 hits on this
thing and I'm feeling good, but I probably didn't need all
those. Oh yeah, no, I feel pleasant,
like. Like I thought about picking it
up again just because. It's there.
Well, I was also like, I wonder if like if there's any other
level that I get to or is this, but then I'm like, what more am
I needing to experience truly? And that that's kind of the
thing of sitting back. And that's the hard part with
cartridges or even just consumption in general when
you're not looking at what is my intent behind this?
And that's sometimes when I'm on my own, that's what I have to
think about is like I'm putting an intent behind this hit.
What is the intent behind this hit?
Well, I actually have a lot of pain right now.
OK, that's my intent is I have a lot of pain and my focus is if I
take this hit, hopefully I will have less pain.
My so my intent right now is to have less pain.
So that's my purpose for that hit.
Or it's like, hey, well, I want to feel focused or I'm not
actually focused on what I'm reading or trying to do.
So maybe if I take this hit and I set my phone aside or I do
this, this is my intent is to do this with that.
Yeah, and also like one thing I've been trying to not go to
unless I absolutely need it is awake and bake, because I don't
need it for pain. I I use it for focus.
I use it for calm because I'm chaos, constant chaos, and I
need that. It's honestly like when it's
like somebody asked me to go. Why do you consider yourself
addicted to cannabis? I said because the chaos is too
much for me to handle at this time.
I just can't deal with it anymore.
I'm not, I'm not built the same way and I don't have the same
support structure. If I was married to a woman who
was like, yeah, fuck it, fuck the world, then I would be like,
yeah, fuck the world, right. And I'd be like, I would be all
hardcore into it. But I'm, I'm not.
I've married to somebody who who helped me see things a little
calmer. And so I'm different for it now.
And that's what I I like keeping that.
So I'm, I'm a, I'm not addicted per SE to that.
I'm just like, I know how I am. It's like how I used to feel
about SSRIs. I used to get really pissed off
about them. But then for some people it's
like, you know what, they've tried everything and this is the
best thing. And so for for me, yeah.
But The thing is, is the cannabis like we're we're seeing
higher percentages, but we're not seeing like a lot more focus
on being able to increase the terpenes amount through the
growing process and helping to enhance that one or being able
to put more emphasis on that. Education is definitely not on
that. We do so let.
Us know in your state, like what is your experience with your
cannabis there? Because we've noticed even in
Utah that there's been kind of a race to the bottom that's kind
of happening here and obviously that really happened in a lot of
other states originally. But I'm curious if you guys have
seen a bounce back with more craft grows or people who are
like, hey, you know, we're kind of sick of this subpar
experience that's being produced and put out there.
I'm guessing that those who can grow do.
God, I, I mean all the states where you can home grow.
That's why we've had so many good episodes even just with
like, who is that one guy? Gosh, he created that one.
He was like, oh, it's simple. You just grow it at home in this
bucket and in certain States and certain areas.
Oh yeah, you can do it very simple like that.
You don't need. And it should be across there.
You know, one thing I was realizing reading through this
book called The beginning of the end is the end of the world is
just the beginning by Peter Zehan Zehan or whatever.
How do you pronounce his name? I'll have to look it up.
But anyways, that if and when more likely the win, which will
be sooner than later when globalization ceases, cannabis
will be one of the biggest crops for the United States.
Absolutely. And the reason why I say that is
because we'll be less dependent upon imports because we'll be
forced to. Most countries will be forced to
because they won't have the populations to continue to grow
said products. That's why I feel that there's
this mass push for robots, because there won't be enough
people to do it. Not like to take your jobs, just
nobody will be there to do it. You look at skilled labor.
What's even Gosh, so in my, my parents had assisted living
centers 10 years ago. Even back then it was, hey, we
have to prep because the amount of boomers that there are is way
larger than the amount of like elderly people we had at that
point. And so it was like, you have to
prep for all of these boomers that are coming in.
But as soon as those go away, there's, I mean, yeah, they're
kids. There's a lot, you know, within
their kid lines. But after that it starts to
trickle out. You know, I, I know a lot of
people who have zero kids or one or two kids or, or even 3 kids
versus, you know, you go back 30 years, how many kids like.
I would have, I would have a normal family.
Oh yeah, my size of five children at that time.
I came from a family of five. Yeah, my, I mean, my dad came
from a family of eight. My or my shared grandma came
from a family of 13. My mom only had there was only
three siblings. Really.
But she grew up on the East Coast, and you'll notice that
the older the towns go, the the fewer people they will have.
And. If you guys are on the East
Coast, do you guys have pretty like is your family line pretty
large or is it pretty minimal like?
I would consider if they're of European descent or East Asian
descent that they don't have big families.
But if, if they're from like the Dominican Republic and Puerto
Rico, they may have larger families.
I don't know, like Hispanic families can be very, very
large. But yeah, I mean, we, we are.
And that's, I mean, and I'm fine with it.
I used to be really like, dude, no, people need to be having.
No, that's fine. If people aren't having people,
that's totally fine. That's nature's way of saying we
don't want your genes. And I see a lot of infertility,
and a lot of people are like, oh, this is a horrible pandemic
because of plastics. Yeah.
Or might be nature's way of saying fuck you, we don't want
any more of you. Because of that, natural
selection starts coming through. I don't believe in the darn
Darwinistic approach, and it's not because of Christian.
It's just too many holes. If it's everyone, if it truly is
microplastics, it will. It would just be mother earth of
that going like you guys are fucktards.
I think you probably all can just die.
I. Think plastics are, I think
plastics are horrible and we're already in our system, but I
think it's the chemicals in the food that are far worse than the
pharmaceuticals or the plastics by any means stretch of the
imagination. The dyes, the chemicals, the
preservers. Sorts of shit.
Yeah, dude, it's like bread anywhere else in the world.
Bread is only made for the day. Yep, it doesn't sit on your
shelf for fucking weeks. Yeah, that's why I loved Europe.
It's like, and they're pastas too.
You go to early and how many times are they eating pasta and
yet and pizzas and stuff And yet you go go here and all of us who
eat pasta and pizza and that, well, we're just a little bit
larger than life. And you go over there and
they're doing the same things, and most of them look nothing
like us. Well, The funny thing is, dude,
once we said fuck the farm, we pretty much just set our own
selves to being able to self regulate.
You know, it's like they'll say like, oh, we, we, you know, that
people think about the globalists or Bill Gates is
trying to kill everybody so he could minimize the population.
Don't worry, we've already done that ourselves.
And all it needed was urbanization.
We just needed to move in densely populated areas.
We didn't do that. And that's the thing like why
I'm actually looking forward to this because we, I, I'm
predicting the cannabis will be very different 10 years from
now. It'll be very different.
I think it'll be better than it is now.
I think the cultivation will be more scientific.
The terpenes will be like what people said, like they can start
customizing terpenes towards people.
I don't ever want it to be where there's a custom cannabis plant
grown for me because I'm always changing.
I like the variety. It would be so hard because I
think that one cannabis plant would really only accomplish a
certain specific and when your body gets very accustomed to 1
cannabinoid, you stop experiencing all the other
euphoria is in that. So it might be perfect for like
getting your body in balance and that might be great because that
one might be what you put in like your smoothies or other
things, because the cannabinoid there might not have to be
activated it totally even just that.
So you might have a genetic one that it's like, well, this is my
tincture of the day and this just helps regulate or do this
part with my body. But then I still enjoy these
other, you know, cultivars because, well, I like how they
make me feel or focus or that. But this is my baseline that is
just, I have no idea. Yeah.
Maybe there is like a baseline that it could create for just
helping with all of our like base level issues that most of
our body has as long as we're not feeding it tons of shit
constantly, you know, kind of like a regulatory daily vitamin.
But then you could still experience your euphoria, your
focus, your like relaxation, your you know, whatever it is
from different strains and that. Well, and the thing too is
sticking as close to the original plan as possible.
I think that things like tablets and stuff like that and mints,
although they are good idea and a good direction, I think
they're shit. I've never had a mint or a pill
that compared anything close to flour and to dab.
So the only thing that I think it might be good for, and I
experienced this when I went to the pride fest with my friend
Alicia. She's a little bit prone to
anxiety lately and going out in that situation.
She had these little mints that were in a tin and it was like 2
milligrams. And she was like offering
offering one to me. She offered one to Emily.
And Emily's dose has gone way up.
Like her tincture. She's saying she's using 40
milligrams, 50 milligrams at night to go to bed.
Like that's her dose on an edible now.
And like, that's kind of crazy because you were 1-2 milligrams
like a year ago. And so even that one for her
didn't do much. But for Alicia, that was like
the perfect micro dose experience because she was able
to just like relax, chill a little bit, take that edge off
of her anxiety. But for me, I'm like, I don't
have them in dose. I don't have this like, oh cool.
Because they don't make them in a couple of 100 milligram mints.
And I see that typically for people who are, I would say more
tourists in in the cannabis world, it suits them when they
want and it's not part of their lifestyle, which is totally fun.
It's not like a daily thing usually for them.
But I just don't. I don't see a consistent.
Consumer using that no. Because after a while it starts
to change. Yeah, almost curdle like milk.
Where like my one of my sister in Until she started getting
panicky. And it's like.
And the reason why is because when you're using, it's the
disassociation. We'll go into an episode about
PTSD, yeah, and cannabis. And one of those things is it's
like. Didn't we just do?
That no, no, I I sent you the stuff for.
It Oh, that's what it was. I was like, where are we dead?
We've been. No, I just had read through it.
All but it's it's that where when you start using it as you
think this is going to help you out to get rid of XY or Z.
Yeah. That's not what it's for.
It's there to help get it to baseline so you can actually go
and OK. It's the tool to allow you to do
the work that you need to do. Yeah, I know people that use
cannabis, they take an edible an hour before their therapy
session because it helps them to open up and not to be afraid to
go into that. But again, it has to be guided
and that's why they have. A great strain for that I feel
like totally because you're relaxed enough, you don't have
any tightness, you could be very chill but still like light
enough that you could talk about anything that.
Is this would be a good travel strain for me?
I get incredibly anxious during travel because I'm thinking
about what could go wrong. So I'm in my head, I've already
become the first responder mechanic and first line of
defense just because I am crazy about that.
But it, this would definitely lift that off.
Like it reminds me how I felt when I was cooking California.
Like, you know how we, my family and I used to go to California
every year, every other year, Yeah, to go to Oceanside or
places like that for like a week.
And I used to fucking hate it because I was just so annoyed.
But then when I started using cannabis, well, everything
changed. And so first stop, I get there
the next morning, like it was funny, my brother-in-law was
coming there because he's got his wife's family's there.
And at this time we were there, he's like, hey dude, we're going
to come stop by. We just pulled in.
We just drove in, yeah. We just drove in from from
Henderson and as we were getting in he's like, hey, dude, he goes
stop by the disc this though, if this, but you don't need me to
grab anything. Yeah, yeah, give me a cart
anything right now. And then he's like, oh, cool
that he got these two pre rolls and we smoked that shit on the
beach and it was so funny because his mom still did.
He still won't tell his mom's like fucking being a bitch.
But because I smoke all the time around her and she lives with me
so she's like I. Don't go fuck.
And neither do my kids. They're just like, that's dad.
Oh yeah. But it was really funny because
we got back up to the table and we had smoked this joint and it
was a good sized joint, dude. Like how nice, Yeah.
There's there's the filter. Everything's beautiful.
And we smoked that whole thing together, but dude, it was like
he even there he couldn't operate.
He just couldn't operate. But anyways, this is getting to
the point where now my I feel slightly muted.
I don't feel tired, but I feel very muted.
As like the colors and stuff. Just slow, OK, but that's a bad
thing because now if like I feel like my minds drifting a little
bit. So you could have seen that just
there for a second. That's but I caught myself.
I'm like OK wait a minute, that's a no to side effect.
Drift to next week's episode, Yeah.
You know, that's what we're going to do.