1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,480 I think I'm dying here, man. The 2 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:18,860 haunted mansions and floors, the Creek they lead us to the places 3 00:00:18,860 --> 00:00:23,660 from which we dare not be. Journey through fear in the 4 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:27,140 realm of the night. In every word they speak, a 5 00:00:28,020 --> 00:00:32,020 haunted night was right. Welcome to the horror show The 6 00:00:32,020 --> 00:00:38,480 Deep Blood podcast. When nightmares come out alive. 7 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Let him take that boat. Tune into the chilling delight 8 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,760 on the airwaves of the night. Let the darkness go. 9 00:00:54,280 --> 00:01:07,800 Let the darkness go. Oh yeah, it's that time again 10 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,720 for another episode of the Deep Cut Podcast with your host 11 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,400 Rotten Roger DeMarco. And today I'm doing something a 12 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,880 little bit different. I'm bringing in a madman. 13 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,480 But no, not Madman Mars. I'm talking about Madman 14 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,920 motherfucking Pondo. What's? 15 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Up. What is up? 16 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,960 What's up guys? Dude not to mark out super hard 17 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,880 but this, this is a dream come true to be sitting here shooting 18 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,280 the shit with legend. I'm just a shithead. 19 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,920 You'll figure it out if we go along. 20 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:49,000 Hell no, man. And you, you have a new book 21 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,360 coming out and it's not, it's nothing like your previous book, 22 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,560 right? Not at all, no. 23 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,560 I had a whole bunch of downtime while I was in Japan and my 24 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:07,400 buddy Christina Harvey, he got her Facebook hacked and she had 25 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,720 to start all the way over. She had to get some pictures and 26 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,600 all her memories back on Facebook. 27 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,080 And I thought to myself how terrible that would be if that 28 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,640 happened to me. Because if you've been through 29 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:24,160 my Facebook, I've met all types of horror movie characters, 30 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:30,240 wrestlers, actors, Internet personalities, our musicians, 31 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,760 all types of shit. And I thought to myself, man, if 32 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,600 if I got my shit hacked, what you're going to happen to 33 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:44,040 anybody, I would really be sad about all the stuff that I was 34 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,120 missing. So I sat down in Japan and I 35 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,800 wrote down stories about meeting all the horror icons that I've 36 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,360 met over the years. So it's full of stories of that 37 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,280 and pictures of me meeting them and all types of good stuff like 38 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,560 that. Dude, I, I love that. 39 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,200 And you know, I mean, you got to preserve those memories as best 40 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,120 as you can. My wife and I, we actually used 41 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,640 to work a horror convention that's kind of local to us. 42 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,600 And we've been toying around with the idea for years because 43 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,880 we started, it was Crypticon in Kansas City and we started going 44 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,320 2013 all the way up until maybe three years ago. 45 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,560 We, we haven't helped with stuff, but we've, we've toyed 46 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,760 around with the idea of creating a coffee table book with all the 47 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,440 pictures of all the people we've met, you know, so I, I love this 48 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,000 idea. So do you have a title for the 49 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,120 new book? Yes, Hondo versus horror icon 50 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,360 and just like the first, just like the first book say of Val 51 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,320 is doing the cover for this book as well. 52 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,920 So you know that's going to look awesome. 53 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Yeah. Hey, don't you have a, you have 54 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,120 a shirt, right. That's you versus a bunch of 55 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,640 horror icons. So that's perfect. 56 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,240 It's it's saved through that and it was called King of the 57 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,800 Psychos and it's me in the middle of Freddy. 58 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Jason led the face of Michael Myers, the four top horror 59 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,880 icons. But I think there's a fifth now. 60 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,280 I think Art the Clown has joined those four, if you ask me, He. 61 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Is he's working his way to icon status real quick, You know what 62 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,079 I mean? If you went to Halloween Horror 63 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:22,160 Nights this year, man, what a what a haunted house that was. 64 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,480 That was awesome. Hell, yeah. 65 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,040 I, I'm partial to Victor Crowley from Hatchet. 66 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,200 I'm a big hatchet mark. So yeah, I'm a, I'm a hatchet 67 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,480 over an Art the Clown guy. But I, you know, you got to 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,000 respect that Art the Clown hustle for sure. 69 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:43,800 Yeah, there's, I mean, I, I love hatchet, but at Halloween time 70 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,800 there was so many Arthur Clown cosplay dresses, you know, dress 71 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,840 people. So. 72 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Oh yeah, I think, I think Arthur Clown is drawing #5 to tell you 73 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,160 the truth and. I'll tell you, you go into a 74 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,640 spirit Halloween. You don't see any Victor Crowley 75 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,840 stuff. You see a ton. 76 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,520 You see a ton of Arthur Clown stuff. 77 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,120 You can't go to Walmart now without Art the Clown. 78 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,920 So I mean, he's he's surpassed, you know, indie horror to icon 79 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,880 status. So yeah, you're I'm with you on 80 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,120 that. But going back to like the 81 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,400 horror stuff, you know, you've been going to conventions and 82 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,520 stuff for a really long time. But let's rewind to way back 83 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,960 when you were young man Pondo, you know, when you were a little 84 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,160 kid, when did you get introduced to horror? 85 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,600 Who who introduced you? What was it you know? 86 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:36,360 It was all regular TV. You know, I started out with 87 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Frankenstein, Dracula, Wolfman, you know, the the normal horror 88 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,720 movies I can play on TV. And then of course Godzilla and 89 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,840 all the Kaju started hitting after that. 90 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,800 And then you get into like the horror, the Hammer series with 91 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:03,720 Vincent Price and Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee and then LED 92 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:09,400 into other B horror movies squirm, you know, things that 93 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,200 they could play at midnight. And then once, once I was going 94 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,000 to the theater there was like at 13, I went to the re release of 95 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,200 The Exorcist in the theater. A lot of movies. 96 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,000 How old are you? How are? 97 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,000 You I will be 42 this June. OK, yeah. 98 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:34,120 So you remember there was times that we couldn't watch, like 99 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,760 older horror movies, not until VHS started getting real 100 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,120 popular, like Leatherface. I didn't get to watch Leather 101 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:47,560 Chainsaw Massacre until it came out on the VHS right And made-up 102 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,440 meet a bunch of friends. I don't know if you remember 103 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,640 when VHS since first came out, but they were like $100 a. 104 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,560 Piece. Oh yeah, Yeah, I do. 105 00:06:55,840 --> 00:07:00,680 Though me so me and like 5 friends all got together and 106 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,520 bought the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and and of course it's 107 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,520 stay at my house. I was like the Bart Simpson with 108 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,320 the comic book. Hey, it's mine. 109 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,800 So it's the saves at my house. I. 110 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Was going to say you guys didn't trade like you got it Monday and 111 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,680 Wednesday and they you know what? 112 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,800 I mean no, because basically I worked at 3 video stores 113 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,760 therefore I had access to BCRS at any time I wanted so they 114 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,600 thought it would just be better to stick at my house. 115 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:36,040 But man, what I regret was I didn't keep any of those, you 116 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,880 know, I mean, when my VHS was to get DVDs and you know, so you. 117 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Know I think we all did that right. 118 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,240 I think, you know, once DVD really sunk its fangs in, we all 119 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,160 were like, you know, on on to the next best thing. 120 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,760 And then now we're kicking ourselves in the ass and having 121 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,520 to rebuy our collections, you know? 122 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Right. Yeah, I'm with you on that, man. 123 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,240 Yeah, and, and VHS people know what they have, so they're like, 124 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,360 you know, now it's back to being expensive. 125 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,400 So it's a pain in the ass if you're in that, in that 126 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,520 nostalgia where you want all your VHS tapes again. 127 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,440 And yeah, it it'll break your bank real fucking quick, dude. 128 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,920 I'm the type of guy I don't care what the quality of the film is. 129 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,920 I just want to watch the film. So I'll watch a VHS, I'll watch 130 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,960 a DVD. When I was young, I used to 131 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,080 watch porn, scrambled, you know, I didn't care. 132 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,240 I just wanted to watch TV, right? 133 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,080 Oh, shit. I love that. 134 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,080 Yeah, we all had to. Like, you know, you, you turn 135 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,480 the dial to a channel you don't quite get, but you can kind of 136 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,880 hear it and maybe make out an elbow and a butt hole. 137 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,920 Yeah. That's it. 138 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,120 That's it. Not time enough to Jack, but 139 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,960 time enough to get inside. Yeah. 100% dude. 140 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,440 Jesus. So when you grew up watching 141 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,840 that stuff on TV was did you guys have like a local horror 142 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,240 host? You know, like, because for me, 143 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,920 like around here, we had a like a doctor sanguinary. 144 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,960 Yeah, we didn't have a horror host, but Channel 11 did. 145 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,080 Friday night prides, Saturday night chillers. 146 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,080 This was all late at night when kids were supposed to be asleep. 147 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,600 You know, I got to watch Benny Hill, which would show a tit 148 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:30,280 every now and then. After after 11 this channel 11 149 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,840 like they played squaring full, you know, I mean you remember 150 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,480 that red headed chick got topless in there or whatever and 151 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,040 then what else? I can't remember the name of 152 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:50,520 this movie, but there was samurai ghost and Linda. 153 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:58,200 I can't remember what her name is, but anyway, you know, so I 154 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,000 would stay up, man. Like I didn't have anywhere to 155 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,200 go. I would stay at home on the 156 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,920 weekends. I'm a big Kung Fu fan. 157 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Channel 11 had three feature films and sometimes they were 158 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,520 action films, sometimes they were romance films. 159 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:20,040 But you know, Lord was a was a top one that they would play 160 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Legend of of Hell House. Not black and not black and 161 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,720 white color, you know, just stuff like that. 162 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:35,800 But then if you really think about how nostalgic my 163 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:41,760 experiences was, I saw Halloween in in on HBO when everybody was 164 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,600 going nuts. You know, I went to Friday the 165 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,640 13th Part 2 in the movie theater. 166 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,840 I already told you I went to The Exorcist when I was 13 and all 167 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,840 these parents was coming over saying, hey, you might want to 168 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,480 sit with us, This is going to be scary. 169 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,160 But I'd already read all the magazines about what was going 170 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,800 to happen. I just wanted to see what it 171 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,000 would look like. So my grandma didn't know no 172 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,040 better. So she took me to this film, you 173 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:13,360 know, and, and yeah, man, like there's, there's not too many 174 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,600 horror movies that people, they, they try to stop me all the 175 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,320 time. Well, have you ever seen this 176 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,040 movie? And I'm like, well, yes, I have. 177 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,920 And then I'll tell them what it's about and they'll be like, 178 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,480 holy shit. You know, I mean working at 3 179 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,920 video stores, not too much got past me. 180 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,960 I was going to say, yeah, working in the video store, 181 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,040 especially if it wasn't like a a big chain, there was a mom and 182 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,560 pop. They're the ones that got the 183 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:38,640 big boxes, you know, they got the weird stuff that Blockbuster 184 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,400 or Hollywood Video or whatever was like afraid to put on the 185 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,240 shelves. So, you know, like you'd be 186 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,040 thirteen watching I spit on your grave. 187 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,960 Like I'm not supposed to see this. 188 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,560 I don't think you know. Yeah, my very first child was 189 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:56,040 CNN video right there in my hometown in Flora, IL and it was 190 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,640 like one of the first video stores in that area. 191 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,880 Therefore, it was packed all the time, every weekend. 192 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,800 All the VCRS were rented out. You know, this is before people 193 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,960 can buy or afford a VCR or a VCR tape. 194 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,480 So they would rent them. And it was like super social, 195 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,000 you know, you met people who were in horror and stuff like 196 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 that too. As a, as opposed to, yeah, with 197 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,560 just streaming now. But like, when you're in a video 198 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:21,400 store, you're bumping into people and like, oh, you ever 199 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,880 seen this? And like, you make friends. 200 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,960 That doesn't happen anymore. Work it like working there 201 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,080 people would come in and they would say so how's this movie 202 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,640 and of course all the employees I didn't get in a horror movies 203 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,160 they'd always look at me and then I. 204 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,920 Would fondling, you know. Yeah, exactly. 205 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,880 Oh, that's awesome. So you were, you were always 206 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,120 that was as a teenager, Yeah, like one of your first gigs, 207 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:46,720 Right. So. 208 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Yeah, that was, I was right out of high school CNN video. 209 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,560 And then I moved on to the Video Shack, and then I moved on to 210 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:58,840 SNL Video. So all three video stores in my 211 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,800 hometown I worked for. Fuck yeah. 212 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,560 And you were always the resident horror guy. 213 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:05,080 I love that I can, pretty much. I can. 214 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,200 Relate to that big time dude. So. 215 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Oh that's so awesome. Going back to squirm, you're 216 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,360 talking about that girl getting topless for half a second. 217 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:17,320 Yeah. I get so distracted by her 218 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,040 sister's big teeth. Her sister's teeth throw me off 219 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,800 so bad. Right. 220 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,240 I want a beautiful what a beautiful movie that is that 221 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,240 they just took a a ball full of rubber, rubber worms and made 222 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,160 something out of it back in the day. 223 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,000 You know, I, I say that, I say basket case. 224 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,840 They took a puppet and made it so vicious. 225 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,640 You know, that things were so different back then. 226 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,360 The Toxic Avenger working at those video stores. 227 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:55,200 I remember they had a promotion. Buy 1 videotape, get 5 free. 228 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,040 Nice. I always thought, wow, I always 229 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,600 thought, you know, that was to rent, not to buy, right? 230 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Yeah. So I always thought that was 231 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,680 really weird. But then I got to figuring out 232 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,640 they would be. There'd be 6 copies of that on 233 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,360 the shelf. Therefore, people would think, 234 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,280 well, this movie must be the bomb. 235 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,760 And of course, they'd take it home. 236 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Some liked it, some loved it a lot. 237 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,640 Fucking hated it, though. But I mean, I loved it. 238 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,480 I thought it was great, yeah. Well, and the beautiful thing 239 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,040 about the video stores too, is all those those small guys like 240 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,560 Hen and Lauder that did, you know, basket case and stuff like 241 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,000 that or trauma or even full moon, you know, like they were 242 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,680 able to put their movie right next to the big budget movie. 243 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,560 And as long as it had a dope poster, you know, and a couple 244 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,440 of real nice screen grabs with the potential with tits or or 245 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,360 gore on the back. That's it. 246 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,080 You know you were going to take it home and you know most of the 247 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,720 time it won you over because you didn't know any better of to 248 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,080 like how low was the budget on this? 249 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,280 If it was rad, it was rad and that was all there was to it. 250 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,080 But like a casual film goer might watch a puppet master and 251 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,160 go not for me, but like geeks like us or like dude, you know 252 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,080 what I'm. Saying the the main poster that 253 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,840 I would look at all day long in that video store was Mother's 254 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Day with mom sitting in the rocking chair. 255 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,520 I can add leave behind her. And I'm so proud of my boys. 256 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,680 You know, I mean, that's probably my favorite horror 257 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,240 movie, just not because it has been it. 258 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,280 But I think I can add leave such a good job of being psycho 259 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,240 killers, but acting like children. 260 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,400 I thought that that, you know, I thought that movie had 261 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,640 everything. And then, of course, the 262 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Queenie. Yeah, All right. 263 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,520 I I loved all that. Yeah, that's a great trauma 264 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,080 movie. Doesn't get a lot of like, I 265 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,720 mean, it got that remake with Rebecca Du Mornay. 266 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,720 It was a decent remake, but is real watered down compared to 267 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,160 what, you know, what the OG was. But yeah, I mean, trauma is such 268 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,120 a rite of passage for the like, punk rock, you know, film nerds, 269 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,360 they just want to see tits and gore and that's it. 270 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,320 Yeah. It just, it has such an attitude 271 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,040 that you don't get from regular movies, you know? 272 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,960 And yeah, dude, I think, I think we just became best friends. 273 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,720 I think I'm going to build, build bunk beds in the cabin and 274 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,520 you can come on over, you know what I'm saying? 275 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,320 And we'll have a. Give me the address. 276 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,880 Give me the address. Come on over man. 277 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,080 But. That's it. 278 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Holy shit dude we have a lot of parallels. 279 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,240 It's crazy. Like first gig video stores, I 280 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,000 got to dip into wrestling for just a second. 281 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,240 I know, I know the the people listening or watching probably 282 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,120 going to want to know some some back story. 283 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,120 So just tying into horror, right? 284 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,520 Like horror and wrestling kind of walk hand in hand, especially 285 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,560 deathmatch horror. So yeah. 286 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,520 So when you decided to wrestle, was that part of your thing? 287 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Like what if I'm, you know, if I can mix horror movies and 288 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,240 wrestling, if I can bring that like gore attitude and that, you 289 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,640 know, that villain, that horror villain attitude to my 290 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,160 character. There were, there was when I 291 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,079 started wrestling in 89, there was no so saying as death 292 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:08,839 matches yet, right? And then I mean, of course, 293 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:12,520 Abdullah, Boozer, Brody, those guys that bled all the time, 294 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,040 there was that, but not death matches. 295 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,800 And I don't are Are you a wrestling fan at all? 296 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,079 Yeah, yeah, for sure. OK, so you you know what tape 297 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:25,839 trading is? Yeah, yeah. 298 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,440 OK, so that's where I got a hold of a Mr. Danger Masa not a 299 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,840 versus Mr. Pogo compilation tape and fell in love. 300 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,840 I was like, holy shit, man. I wore, I have never done this 301 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,760 on any other videotape, but I wore that videotape out watching 302 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,640 it so much. I had to I had to buy another 303 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:55,280 one off of Feinstein, which was way shittier quality, but I 304 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,880 wanted it. I got it again and I am proud to 305 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,880 say that the two guys that I was learning to become stupid like I 306 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,800 am today landing in Bob wire glass and thumbtacks. 307 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,480 I was on first name basis of Mr. Pogo and every time I go into 308 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,040 Mr. Dangerous restaurant in Japan, he says all American 309 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,480 danger man. So mission accomplished in life. 310 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,440 Hell yeah, dude, that's super rad. 311 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:23,440 You know, growing up and and watching those guys and then, 312 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,440 you know, getting to getting to mix it up and, and, and be on a 313 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,120 first name basis with them, you know, and that's right. 314 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:32,520 So going back to like horror, and I guess it ties into 315 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,080 wrestling too. You know, like, one of the big 316 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,000 things that they always tell you when you're growing up is, you 317 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,240 know, don't meet your heroes because, you know, the illusions 318 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,000 going to be broken and, you know, some are going to be. 319 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,920 Dick. Dicks or whatever, Obviously 320 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,240 it's been overwhelmingly positive for you in both regards 321 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,520 because obviously you're making a book about like good 322 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,320 experiences and that's, that's, that's the take away, right? 323 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,600 Like all the the fun interactions. 324 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,480 I, I had three bad experiences out of all the horror people 325 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:11,160 that I've met, you can say, or if you talk about all the stars 326 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,960 that I've met, but yeah, it's in the book. 327 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,760 I can tell you about them if you want. 328 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Leave that for the listeners. But I was just, yeah, just as 329 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,400 overwhelmingly positive. You know, it's it's I know 330 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,320 you're a you're a no bullshit kind of guy. 331 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,240 You don't like to talk about negative things. 332 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,320 You don't you don't bring up shit that don't need to be 333 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,800 brought up. And I'm not, you know, so like 334 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,280 the, the positive things in your life and in, in horror, like 335 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,240 it's just, it's, it's so cool that, you know, it's made such 336 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,640 an impact on you that you're writing a book about it. 337 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,760 I, I love it dude, I'm I'm I'm blown away by. 338 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,560 It. Yeah, and I've had plenty of 339 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:55,440 influences, like even your jersey, the ICP, I mean, that's 340 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,680 horror core, you know, I mean that that leads into horror 341 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 movies. Everything leads into a horror 342 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,320 movie. If you're in my world, yeah. 343 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,240 Yeah. Well, and, you know, I mean, 344 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,240 there's so many interesting characters that it, it's, it's, 345 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,280 it's hard not to get captivated, right? 346 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,000 And you can either be, you know, you're a comic book guy or 347 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,080 you're, you're a horror movie guy or whatever. 348 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,760 And, and there's just this whole world and it just goes and goes 349 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,160 and goes forever. And it's, there's always 350 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,640 something new to discover, you know? 351 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,360 Yeah, I don't want to get into the last half of the podcast 352 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:32,560 yet. So I want to ask you more about 353 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,480 conventions. When did you when did you start 354 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,600 going to conventions? You know it. 355 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,560 So getting those famous Monster magazines and Fangoria 356 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,240 magazines. I lived in a small town in 357 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:52,560 Flora, IL and you remember you got the magazines too, correct? 358 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Oh yeah. And they would always show those 359 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,920 conventions that was going to have really cool guests. 360 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,880 Like weekends of horror, weekends of horror. 361 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Yeah, yeah. And of course there was always 362 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,760 in LA or, you know, place was way out of my reach. 363 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:13,880 But then when I got older and I could drive my own car, nothing 364 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,000 stopped me. I was like, holy shit, there's 365 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,960 there's one in, in Cherry Hill, NJ. 366 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,600 I'm there. There's one in Cincinnati, OH, 367 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,120 I'm there. You know, I mean, I just, I, I 368 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:32,000 was such a fan of so many horror movies, so many stars in the 369 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,240 horror movies that it's like my Disney World, you know, I can't, 370 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,720 I can't drive into them. I, I would be so excited about 371 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,720 who I was getting ready to meet, getting the autograph 8 by 10s. 372 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,480 I would sit in my hotel room looking at them over and over 373 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,360 and over. And then on the way home, I 374 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,800 would be so excited about who I got to me. 375 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,800 And then when I would talk to people and I got to tell them, 376 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,800 hey, I got to meet this guy, this guy, this girl, this girl, 377 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,400 you know, convinces to me. I, I'm so happy. 378 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,760 There's such thing as a horror convention. 379 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:11,480 Yeah, they, like I said, they took over for us in like 2013. 380 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,200 My wife and I had always kind of talked about going and we had 381 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,920 never went. And then when we finally, you 382 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,000 know, finally made that jump and went to a convention, it was 383 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,640 insane. And, and everyone's so 384 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,800 approachable and you know, you just you, you walk away with so 385 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,760 many interesting interactions and stories and, and, and like I 386 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,040 said, like with the video store, you meet lifelong friends and 387 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,600 the Co host of my show who isn't here for this episode, but I met 388 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,240 him at a horror convention and. There you go. 389 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,280 You know, I mean, like you just these things change your life 390 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,200 and it's, it's so rad, dude. Like, yeah. 391 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,360 And one big thing about horror conventions, I'm a big T-shirt 392 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,400 thing. Like, I love T-shirts and you 393 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,800 can go to horror conventions and find T-shirts of movies that you 394 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,800 never thought there would be AT shirt of. 395 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,400 I had I had basket case T-shirts, socks, Avenger 396 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:18,240 T-shirts, Shockwave T-shirts, you know, Godzilla T-shirts 397 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,000 before he started getting popular in America. 398 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,640 And yeah, the conventions are awesome. 399 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,200 Yeah, dude. Well, that'll be in the book, 400 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,000 I'm sure. But my wife asked who? 401 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:33,120 Who is bar none your favorite person that you've met? 402 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:42,040 I will tell you that when I met Gunner Hanson Leatherface, it 403 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,080 was it was probably my gayest moment I ever had. 404 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,040 I was just sitting there staring at the dude like, I can't 405 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,760 believe I'm meeting this guy, you know, like inside me was 406 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,360 just so excited and and of course he's a very nice person. 407 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:02,440 So he would have conversations with each person that that 408 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,920 bought his stuff and, and I'd just be like, would you guys get 409 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,160 get the fuck out of my way, you know? 410 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,120 Take away from my time, sucker. That's right. 411 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,560 And then when I got up there, of course he talked to me a long 412 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,640 time and I told him the same story. 413 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,320 I told you how me and four friends saved up money and we 414 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:27,320 bought the video tape and and Ed Neal was sitting next to him. 415 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Oh, nice, nice. And he heard that as well. 416 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,400 And so he joined in, he stopped his line and he joined in with 417 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,000 me and Gunnar Hansen's conversation. 418 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:43,160 And for no apparent reason whatsoever, they both said, 419 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,720 well, let's get a picture. And I got a picture with both of 420 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,560 them on each side of me. I which I was pretty impressed 421 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,040 with that. That's so rad. 422 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,800 We missed meeting Gunnar. He had slated he was going to be 423 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,360 at Crypticon and then he he passed away like a month before 424 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,280 and man, we, we took that pretty hard. 425 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,320 There's a weird little movie that he did and I'm sure you've 426 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,920 seen it because but it's called Brutal Massacre and it's like a 427 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,200 yeah, like that movie to me and my Co host and and to my family, 428 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,120 because I also make cheesy shitty independent movies on the 429 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,640 side. Brutal massacre hits all the 430 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,040 notes. You know, everything that will 431 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,920 go wrong, like everything that can go wrong will go wrong. 432 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,920 And you know, people quitting, people not showing up, effects 433 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,760 looking like shit. And and I know it like it's done 434 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,400 satirically, but like it's so fucking on the nose that like I 435 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,880 wanted to meet him a for Texas Chainsaw, but I was like, I was 436 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,360 so going to have him sign my copy of brutal massacre. 437 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,680 Because you know, I mean, when you make a movie or, or if 438 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,120 you're in a production, obviously like you know, when 439 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,720 you're filming wrestling, it is a production. 440 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,680 You have to do all your promos and stuff. 441 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,840 It's like making a movie. But David Nottham was perfect, 442 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,080 perfect in that role. He did such a good job as the as 443 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,480 the stressed out, you know, convention guy. 444 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,240 I loved it. I thought that was a great 445 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,000 movie. Yeah, it's so fucking good, 446 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,360 dude. Gone back to the Texas Chainsaw 447 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,600 Massacre. So I got booked in Texas one 448 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,400 time and the promoter said OK, what's it going to take to bring 449 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:29,200 in? I said hotel, plane ticket, and 450 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,600 for my payout you can give me $400.00 a match or you can give 451 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,040 me $200 a match and get me to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 452 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,680 house to eat. He's right. 453 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,240 Well shit, let's see the 200. I want to eat at that place too. 454 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:52,240 So on that day, I I got to go to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 455 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,040 house. We sat in the Feather Room. 456 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,680 I ate ribs, of course. Yes. 457 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Yes, I got my. That's right. 458 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,600 I got my picture on the steps that Sally ran up and let her 459 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,960 face chase them. And then because I was such a 460 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,240 fan, the place also gave us some directions to the graveyard. 461 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,000 So I went to the graveyard. Yeah. 462 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,120 Previously, no, no, Since then I had been to the gas station. 463 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,280 I spent the night there at in the cabins at the gas station. 464 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,000 Anyone poke you with the broom, you know No, no, but. 465 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,280 I run my own girls promotion and me and like 5 of the girls of 466 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,080 Girl Fight. Each cabin had its own DVD 467 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,920 player. They loaned us Texas Chainsaw 468 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,120 Massacre 1-2 and three, which some of the girls hadn't seen, 469 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,520 but they stayed there because I wanted to stay there. 470 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,600 So we, what we sit there at with the gas station, like maybe, I 471 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,080 don't know, 20 steps away from us and watched Texas Chainsaw 472 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:03,240 Massacre 1-2 and three. And then the next day, Roy, the 473 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,680 guy who owns the gas station, he took us to the bridge for Texas 474 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,640 Chainsaw Massacre Part 2. Right. 475 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,400 Oh that's so rad, dude. And and you would you would 476 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,600 think that thing is miles long. No, it's like 2 tiers long. 477 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,480 So I don't know what they. Did it's got shooting over and 478 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,160 over again? Yeah. 479 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,040 That's it. Yeah, that's it. 480 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,440 So have you done a bunch of other filming locations that you 481 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,080 visited? Because you, I mean you travel 482 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,040 so much, man. Yeah, man, I did. 483 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,280 I went to same thing. I got booked in in Denver, Co 484 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:43,000 and I gave them one price or the price to get me to the Shining 485 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Hotel, the Stanley. I've been to the Exorcist Steps, 486 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:55,000 I've been to the well, We went to the Amityville house, but 487 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 they have changed the windows and they they moved. 488 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,840 It too right like they they picked it up and moved it to a 489 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,720 like a different. Spot, I don't know, just when we 490 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,720 got there, it just wasn't right. It wasn't the house without 491 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:13,880 those windows. And I'm, well, not horror, but 492 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,800 have you? Are you a South Park fan? 493 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,400 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Did you? 494 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Did you? Did you know Casa Bonita is 495 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,720 real? I have heard this, yeah. 496 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Yeah, I've, I've been to Casa Bonita. 497 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:32,400 I mean, I've been to are you, do you like the Warriors? 498 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,520 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I've. 499 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,200 Been to the wonder wheel. Got my picture with the wonder 500 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,280 wheel. I mean, I'm, I'm just a movie 501 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,240 fan, you know? I mean, I love horror movies, 502 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,120 but yeah, I'll go just about anything movie related. 503 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,120 Oh, and the original the original wood chipper from 504 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,120 Fargo. I got my picture with that as 505 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,040 well. That's fucking rad, dude. 506 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,480 Hey, Roger, let me ask him a question. 507 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,440 What? Yeah, man. 508 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,680 Yeah. You can ask Pondo a question. 509 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Go ahead. Pondo, you think you're a funny 510 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,600 guy, right? Well, tell me a joke, huh? 511 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:22,040 I sure can. So there was this slow kid and 512 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,400 but his dad really loved him and his dad was a police officer so 513 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:36,120 he would let the slow his slow son wear a badge and walk around 514 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,400 the police station like he was a police officer. 515 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Well he got special treatment. So all the other cops, there was 516 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,960 like 3 other cops in this precinct and they couldn't stand 517 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:52,360 the slow kid. So the dad went on vacation 518 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,360 without the son and the son was walking around the police 519 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:01,280 station and they get a call. They get a call from for a 520 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,760 motorcycle accident. Well it was hot that day. 521 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,200 None of them wanted to go out there. 522 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,560 So they asked him, they're like, hey, do you want to go out there 523 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,240 and and take a walkie-talkie with you? 524 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,920 And if you see anything, you call back and you tell us, you 525 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360 know what you see? And he was all excited. 526 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,120 You know, it's his first thing he gets to do. 527 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,080 So he gets his walkie-talkie and he gets on the three wheeled 528 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,880 bike and he bicycles out there to wear the motorcycle wreck. 529 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,480 And he's out there and he looks down and he gets on the 530 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,120 walkie-talkie. He says, dispatch, dispatch. 531 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,320 And I said, yeah, go ahead. He says, I see a head in the 532 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,960 ditch and they go, oh, watch this, watch this, watch this is 533 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,000 it You see a a head where slow kids confused. 534 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,760 He says, I see a head in the ditch. 535 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,360 Says you see a head where you know they're messing with them. 536 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,960 He says, I said, I saw a head and the DITCH. 537 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,640 They said, OK, well go ahead, go, go up farther. 538 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,400 Tell us what you see. So he goes up a little farther 539 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,520 and he sees something else. He gets on his walkie-talkie. 540 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,920 He says, dispatch, dispatch. I said, yeah, go ahead. 541 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,800 They said. He says, I see an arm in the 542 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,320 ditch. And they said here we go, Here 543 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,280 we go. You see an arm where? 544 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,360 I see an arm in the ditch. He says, you see an arm where He 545 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:40,320 says, I see an arm in the DITCA. They said, OK, we'll go up a 546 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,840 little bit farther and if you see something we'll come out 547 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,120 there. Goes up a little farther and 548 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,760 there it is in the middle of the road. 549 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,520 He gets on there and he says dispatch, dispatcher said, yeah, 550 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,840 go ahead. He says, I see a penis in the 551 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,840 highway. Now they're not joking around. 552 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,440 They're like, oh, you see a what and the what? 553 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,480 He says I see a penis in the highway. 554 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,320 They said one more time, you see a penis where? 555 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:17,480 He says damn it, I said I see a penis in the HE in the hij. 556 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,040 He picks it up, he kicks it and he says I see a penis in the 557 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:30,560 DITCA. Oh Jesus Christ, that is 558 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,120 excellent for the folks who are listening watching, however 559 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,360 they're consuming this that don't know, not only are you a 560 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,400 resident ass kicking machine and a horror movie encyclopedia, 561 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,800 you're also a stand up comedian, which is fucking incredible. 562 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,920 I've only done it 7 times where I'm getting good responses 563 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,560 everywhere I go. And, and here in West Virginia 564 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,600 where I'm at right now, I'm up in the hills. 565 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,000 That's why there's technical difficulties every once in a 566 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,560 while. But they're going to let me have 567 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,960 my own. I'm going to let me headline my 568 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,080 own show. And I hope that turns into 569 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,159 headline in other places. But I did it like a long time 570 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:16,560 ago. But I I had a snail puppet and I 571 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,400 had a mask where you couldn't see my mouth. 572 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,920 And I was the worst Vancouver Trish she ever saw. 573 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,400 And my puppet's name was Sammy Snail trails. 574 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:32,520 And I did snail jokes. But now, now I've been I did it 575 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,120 twice, and this will be my third time this Wednesday. 576 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,920 I'm Madman, Pondo and I I don't really tell too many wrestling 577 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,560 stories, but I do have a pretty good stick going. 578 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,600 Hell yeah, man. I mean, doing it 7 times, you 579 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,679 know, you're honing it and you're getting that, you're 580 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,320 getting that material nailed down and you're just going to 581 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,960 keep killing them and ain't nothing to it but to do it, man. 582 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,800 2026 bouncing around kicking people's asses and and making 583 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,800 people laugh, dude. That's what I'm all about, man. 584 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,320 That's rad as fuck, dude. Life is short, chase dreams. 585 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,840 Be a good person, you know what I mean? 586 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,520 If there's something you want to do, do it. 587 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,480 We're going to take a look at Madman Pando's hot takes. 588 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,160 It's not a big sub hot takes, and I don't care if you like my 589 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,960 hot takes 'cause these are my motherfucking hot taste. 590 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,520 Hot taste. OK, Sir. 591 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,880 So for this segment, this is in fact a deep cut podcast and I 592 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,440 would not be doing the name of the podcast justice if I did not 593 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,440 scroll endlessly through all of the information that I could 594 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:47,320 possibly dig up on you and come up with 10A or B choices. 595 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,920 OK, 10 things that are AB choice and make you choose between A or 596 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,880 B. Now you can either rant and 597 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,720 ramble as to why you make this choice or just say that's my 598 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:03,520 answer, move on. I'm pretty full of shit so I'll 599 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,960 probably ramble. I'm with it. 600 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,520 So that that's excellent because you know, my goal with doing 601 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,520 these interviews is to let people get to know the person 602 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,440 that I'm talking to. Now there's a lot of surface 603 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,760 level interviews out there where people are like, what's the 604 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,760 scariest thing you've ever seen? Or what's this? 605 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,800 What's that? You know, and I tried it. 606 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,400 You, you are not your profession, you know what I'm 607 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,160 saying? You're, you're a human being. 608 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,440 You, you do things outside of camera view. 609 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,200 And I think that's important for people to get, you know, to 610 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,800 grasp a little bit of how how you live your life. 611 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160 And again, keeping bullshit out of it and not making you, you 612 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,400 know, there's no, there's no bullshit involved. 613 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,200 It's just all love and all fun things that I've seen one way or 614 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200 another, you profess your love for. 615 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,920 So some are film, some are wrestling, some are wild cards, 616 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,800 but you will get to choose A or B. 617 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,880 All right, Number one, you are in a city and you got to kill 618 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,040 some time before your next gig, whether that's wrestling, 619 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,920 whether that's comedy, whether that's going to see a movie, 620 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,000 whatever it may be concert. So to kill time you can choose 621 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,000 between zoo or Art Museum. The zoo. 622 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,200 I love animals. I'm I'm not so big on art 623 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,280 museums. I've been to art museums, but 624 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,720 I've been to a lot more zoos. I've been to zoos in Germany and 625 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,320 Japan and America. So I would say zoo. 626 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,560 Yeah, I see. Yeah, You, you frequent a lot of 627 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,480 zoos. Let me ask you Omaha, NE, 628 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:46,800 because you came with JCW in August or June, I believe. 629 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,440 And have you ever been to the Henry Dorley Zoo in Omaha, NE? 630 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,560 I have not. Bookmarked that, Look it up, it 631 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:02,600 is one of the best zoos in America and it was right down 632 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,520 the street like 3 minutes from the venue you guys were at. 633 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,960 I guess we, I wish we would have talked before I went and 634 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,760 wrestled with. That's exactly where we would 635 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,560 have went. I'll tell you this, next time if 636 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,120 you guys come to Omaha, we'll go eat some food and we'll go to 637 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,240 the goddamn zoo. Sounds good man, Sounds good. 638 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:26,040 Hell yeah #2 you got to have a nice refreshing drink. 639 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:30,960 You're you're parched. Lemon tea or fago ohana punch? 640 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,680 It's got to be that fago ohana punch. 641 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680 Lemon tea. In Japan it would be. 642 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,680 It would be lemon tea in Japan, but in America Ohana punch. 643 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,840 Hell yeah. Are you, were you a sponsor or 644 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,760 something for the the lemon tea? I know there's like a shirt and 645 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,360 a crazy design of you. Like I love lemon tea. 646 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,420 I just always had one in my hand and says I was like let's make a 647 00:38:56,420 --> 00:38:58,960 T-shirt of it and I'm like, you think that'll sell? 648 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,080 And he's like anything you with your face on they'll sell. 649 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,880 We did. We sold out within like 3 shows. 650 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,280 I love that dude. Yeah, that's so amazing. 651 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,840 All right. Late night Kung Fu marathon, 652 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,040 Jackie Chan or Sam O Hung. I would say Tony JA. 653 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,080 Oh, out. Of those, out of those two, 654 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,720 Jackie Chan, but I'm a big Tony JA fan. 655 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,400 I'll thank you. Yeah, I think his movies, I 656 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,520 don't know, man. There's no way he's not kicking 657 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,800 the shit out of his stunt guys. Oh man, I'll tell you, behind 658 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,880 the scenes my wife is running the ones and twos. 659 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,080 Her hands shot up like a fucking rocket. 660 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,320 She loves Tony John. She's a Tony John Mark for sure. 661 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:49,160 There's another guy too, the Raid and the Raid 2. 662 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,240 What's that guy? Oh yeah, you had to ask me, but 663 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,360 I'm going to draw a blank on it. But that dude's a beast. 664 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,560 Both of those movies are fucking incredible. 665 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,280 And there's another movie coming out. 666 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:10,120 It's They will kill you. It's it's the girl from. 667 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,040 I want you to write that down and check out the trailer later. 668 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,960 It's called They Will Kill You. OK. 669 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,040 And. And Deadpool, she was the black 670 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,920 girl that was joining his team. I think she was the only 671 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:30,480 survivor because she showed up in in Deadpool versus Wolverine. 672 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,560 But it's called they will kill you and that looks like it's 673 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,000 going to be a badass one. Fuck. 674 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,600 Yeah. Did you hear that? 675 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,360 They're remaking the raid redemption, but they're doing it 676 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,920 American style. I don't know about that. 677 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,000 I'm not, yeah, I'm not in. I'm not in on that. 678 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,920 I'll probably watch it but I'm not going to enjoy it as much as 679 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,520 I did the the raid. Yeah, I'm going to butcher that 680 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,040 dudes name. My wifes showing me Aiko. 681 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,280 You, Weiss. You you Weiss. 682 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,760 You probably got that closer and I could. 683 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,840 So yeah, but that's the fella from the raid that my God, when 684 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,720 he's training in the in the jail cell type deal. 685 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,880 Yeah, that's a bad motherfucker right there. 686 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,720 That's it. All right, next question, food. 687 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,480 So you got to choose between burgers or steaks, Sir? 688 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,760 I would say steak because since I've been losing the weight the 689 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:31,040 burger has a bun. So I was 332 lbs and today I AM 690 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,360 100 and 9796 somewhere around there. 691 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,240 That's what's up. But. 692 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,760 I would say steak. Hell yeah. 693 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,600 Yeah, I see. You know, you frequent a lot of 694 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,280 Japanese steak houses and things of that nature. 695 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,080 But yeah, I'm with you on avoiding the carbs. 696 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,960 You know what I mean? They weigh you down. 697 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,720 I am also down like 110 something pounds. 698 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,520 I got real heavy for a hot minute and I was like, Nah, we 699 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,480 ain't doing this. So yeah, me too. 700 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,120 Yep, switching it up, dude, that's fucking incredible. 701 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,120 That's a that's an awesome accomplishment. 702 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,520 So you're going to be light on your feet wrecking shop dude 703 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,840 doing my. Best doing my best. 704 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,280 That's all we can do, man, Fight gravity every day, right? 705 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,320 That's right. Fuck, yeah. 706 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,240 All right. Next, you got to choose between 707 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:21,560 the Kings of the Monsters, Godzilla or King Kong. 708 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,320 Ah, Godzilla. All day long, actually, Gigan. 709 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,240 Yeah. All right. 710 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:33,120 Yeah. And not M2 or M3, but 711 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,240 Mechagodzilla. The the old one, Yeah, dude, 712 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:40,240 this one, yeah. That's what's up, Yeah. 713 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,800 I've never really been a big King Kong guy either, so I'm 714 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,520 with you on. Godzilla. 715 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,720 I love King Kong, don't get me wrong, But if you're making me 716 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:52,760 choose, yeah, I I always wanted Godzilla to be King Kong in the 717 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,760 movie. And finally, finally, the 718 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,200 Americans did it, you know. Yeah, yeah, these these newer 719 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,800 flicks, they're not terrible, you know? 720 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,800 Yeah, Godzilla -1 pretty fucking rad. 721 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,880 Like the because we're. One of the best ever. 722 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,000 I was amazed at how good that was. 723 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:14,080 I watched that in Japan. I've seen it here. 724 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,920 But then when I was in Japan, they was playing it and I went 725 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,440 and watched it there too. All right. 726 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,640 This next question, this is an odd 1 and I'm going to maybe 727 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,960 need you to elaborate a little bit because in my research I 728 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,720 came across a very specific photo, but I'm going to make you 729 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:31,640 choose between David Blaine or Chris Angel. 730 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,040 David Blaine. Yeah. 731 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,600 Criss Angel. I don't know. 732 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,120 He's, he's like Hollywood famous. 733 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,720 But I like that David Blaine goes to like, the crappiest 734 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,840 parts of town and and does his magic. 735 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,920 Plus, I don't know if you know this or not, but when I was in 736 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:58,200 England for the video game Don't try this at home, they brought 737 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,680 me M Dog and Josh Prohibition to England and they gave us, they 738 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:10,120 gave us each our own day. M Dog chose Camden, Camden Park 739 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,400 where the Speed Flea market was. Josh Prohibition chose the 740 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,720 Holocaust Museum. I chose. 741 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:20,880 I wanted them to take me to the London Bridge where David Blaine 742 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,480 was hanging upside down, hanging underneath the bridge for 44 743 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,040 days without food and water. So I knew what I was going to do 744 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,600 when I got there. When I got there, I told the the 745 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,200 video game crew and I told M dog and Josh, I said I'll be right 746 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,200 back. And they're like, where are you 747 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,760 going? I'm like, trust me, I'll be 748 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,600 right back. So I'm looking around and 749 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:50,440 there's this burger vendor and it was called Big ASAS Burgers, 750 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,080 Big Ass Burgers. But it's big ass burgers, right? 751 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,880 Yeah. So. 752 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,160 So I'm like, this has to be what I'm looking for. 753 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,200 So I bought the biggest cheeseburger that I could find, 754 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,240 bought the biggest soda that I could find. 755 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,640 This dude's hanging under the bridge for 44 days without food 756 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,560 and water. I wean my way up to the fence. 757 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,760 I got to the to the fence and I said, Harry gave it and he's 758 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:18,680 looking right at me. And I said, and there's pictures 759 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,120 of it. I got pictures of it just to 760 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,400 prove it. But yeah, I sit there and ate 761 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,680 that big ass burger and drank that soda right in front of him. 762 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,320 He was laughing his ass off. He thought that was hilarious. 763 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,880 Oh that's gold dude. So are you a Big Magic fan? 764 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,720 Like, do you enjoy watching Magic? 765 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,600 Yeah, I mean, if there's a magician, I'll go. 766 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,080 Like I would love to see Penn and Teller. 767 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:47,120 I saw David Copperfield, and in person, I can't remember his 768 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,800 name, but the he he was kind of balding, but he had curly hair 769 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,040 and a mustache. What's that magician's name? 770 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,760 He was real big back when I was a kid. 771 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,360 But anyway, I saw that dude. Yeah, I I like magicians. 772 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640 Fuck yeah, we're, we're Big Magic guys too, man. 773 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,720 I love sleight of hand stuff. Anything you can do right in 774 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:09,800 front of me, you know that. That stuff floors me every time. 775 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,560 And yeah, we watch Fool Us all the time and you know. 776 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,840 Yeah. We're total marks for for 777 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,840 magicians, but this next one, this is. 778 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:24,600 I guess this is an industry question of pain, I suppose. 779 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:30,680 So which one sucks more to deal with, barbed wire or thumbtacks? 780 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,120 Neat, neat. What you know, back when I 781 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,560 thumbtacks are easy. Thumbtacks are so simple Bob 782 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,320 wire. Um, it'll, it'll scratch you 783 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200 sometimes it'll give you a deep scratch, but more or less it's 784 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,120 just scratches. But uh, back when, I don't know 785 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,480 if you remember, I had really long hair, I was always getting 786 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,240 that stuck in barbed wire ropes. So I would say the barbed wire 787 00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:01,280 was the most tedious in my 36 years, but not that it was a bad 788 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,160 thing. It was my hair getting stuck. 789 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,800 Right. Yeah, it's more of a pain in the 790 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,880 ass rather than anything else. Yeah. 791 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,000 All right, well, how about recovery? 792 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,440 You got some time to yourself. You're you're sore. 793 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,720 You're aching. You're going to choose between 794 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:19,080 hot tub or a sauna. Hot tub every time. 795 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,840 I I love a hot tub. Me and a buddy, we just rented a 796 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,400 hotel at a casino just so we could use the hot tub. 797 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,640 It was, I was renovating it for two years and we was chomping at 798 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,680 the bit and when we found out it was open, we went straight to 799 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,760 the casino. I got in there four times. 800 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,760 I think he got in there three. But yeah, I love a hot tub. 801 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,040 I I am also a massive hot tub nerd. 802 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,200 You should do your magic and convince my wife to let us buy a 803 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,000 hot tub because I've been trying for 16. 804 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,600 Years hot tub. Yeah, it's been a long, long 805 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,080 time on me being like, should we get one? 806 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,120 We should get one. I, I, I think you guys can, you 807 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,240 guys can build your own Evil Dead cabin, but you can't have a 808 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:08,680 hot tub. What's up with that? 809 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,680 I don't know, I'll, I'll, I'll try and persuade her later when 810 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,160 they when the microphones are off, but there. 811 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,200 We go. All right, this next one, this 812 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,400 is kind of low hanging fruit. This is kind of a Gimme. 813 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,920 But you know, like you brought up earlier there, there are a 814 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,920 handful of horror heavyweights. So I got a feeling you're going 815 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,600 to choose one that I didn't put on the list, but Jason or 816 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,000 Michael Myers. Probably Michael Myers, because 817 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,680 growing up, man, I remember going to school after HBO played 818 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,520 Halloween. And I mean, everybody was just, 819 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,560 Oh my God, I'm so scared. I can't sleep at night, you 820 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,240 know, Jason. Well, I mean, Friday the 13th 821 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,600 didn't even have it, wasn't even Jason. 822 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,440 I don't know if I'm spoiling that for anybody, but that movie 823 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,520 is so old. Surely I'm not spoiling 824 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,960 anything. But he didn't show up until the 825 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:13,640 very end of the movie, right? So, but Michael Myers, he was 826 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,360 all the way through it. And I don't know if you ever 827 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,600 thought about this, but do you realize in any of the Friday the 828 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,480 13th movies they never say the date? 829 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,560 They do. Jason lives. 830 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,320 I think they say happy Friday the 13th. 831 00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:34,480 That's part six. Yeah, that, but I think that's 832 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,640 about the only one. You're right. 833 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,920 Yeah, they don't ever like, hey, yeah, Friday the 13th. 834 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,320 Only by the time, you know, Alice Cooper was on the 835 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,560 soundtrack and it was like the MTV Jason where they got it, you 836 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,360 know, they're like, ah, Friday like, like a little wink and nod 837 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,560 at the camera type of deal. But yeah, yeah, not in any of 838 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,120 the other ones. Good car. 839 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,760 And but I mean Halloween, you know, I mean, that's the build 840 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,520 up getting to the 31st. So, yeah, out of those two, 841 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,120 Michael? Myers I have an interesting 842 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,760 theory about Halloween. I'm You've probably seen that 843 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,720 movie as many times as me. If not. 844 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:14,400 More so. Let me ask you this. 845 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,440 Have you ever watched that movie from the perspective of that 846 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,080 Annie was Michael Myers intended target? 847 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,920 No, I never really even looked at it like that. 848 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,120 Dude, it's so crazy, right? When you think about that. 849 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,800 And he's the one that tells him, you know, speed kills. 850 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,640 He he stops the car. Clearly he goes and he kills 851 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,000 everybody across the street. And the only reason he pursues 852 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,280 Lori is because she goes over there and catches him while he's 853 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,520 like hiding the bodies. I don't think he ever would 854 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,520 have. I don't think he ever would have 855 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,760 came across the street had she not gone over there. 856 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,480 And when you think about it in that perspective, it really kind 857 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,440 of like changes the movie a little bit, you know? 858 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,800 Yeah, I never even thought. It's kind of it's kind of weird. 859 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,760 That's just one of the things since, you know, since we watch 860 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,120 these movies over and over again and we cover them and we and you 861 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,480 know, we write all these notes and stuff. 862 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,000 I think the last time we covered it on the podcast that had like 863 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,720 clicked in my head and I was like, that's kind of 864 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:21,040 interesting. Like if Jamie Lee Curtis would 865 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,520 have just stayed over there with Tommy Doyle and Lindsay Wallace, 866 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,720 like, then the rest of everything wouldn't even matter. 867 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:30,960 Like it wouldn't even. Happen. 868 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,440 Never even thought about that. Yeah. 869 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,720 So this last question, Pondo, I got to, I got to stick my neck 870 00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:39,520 out a little bit for the Juggalos here. 871 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,400 Plus I feel safe because you're on a screen and you can't hurt 872 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,720 me. So I'm, you know, I'm being 873 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:51,880 nice, but I want to know. Let's say a bar fight were to 874 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,880 break out between Vampiro and Violin Jay. 875 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,080 Whose back are you going to have in that situation? 876 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:04,520 Oh man, that's a rough 1. So you know that I am Vampiros 877 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,040 paid assassin now and but violent Jay is also the one 878 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:17,280 paying the bills. So yeah, I'd probably go with 879 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,280 the pay the bills guy. I'd have to go with Violent Jay 880 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:25,280 and apologize to Vampiro later. Buy him a cold beer and a steak. 881 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,040 Maybe you know. That's it. 882 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,320 Oh man, yeah, sorry I had to put you on the spot and ask you 883 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,520 that, Sir. No, no, no problem. 884 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,080 All right, what? What do you what do you got for 885 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,040 me? OK, I want to know your three 886 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,520 worst horror movies. Oh, OK. 887 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,640 I know mine, I'm waiting on yours. 888 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,840 Boy, that's I mean, I literally have a video store in my house. 889 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:57,000 I have so many movies and I've seen everything, but let's just 890 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,360 number one out of the gate just because I will never give it 891 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,960 another shot. I don't think skin of a rink. 892 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,880 That's that's my #1 Skitter Marink. 893 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,840 There we go, dude, that. I made I made Skitter Marink 894 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,760 too. Did you? 895 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,160 It Only it only lasts 14 seconds, but I just filmed 896 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,240 random things in my house with kids whispering. 897 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,440 And then the final shot is Pickle Rick. 898 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:28,720 You know Nicolas Cage. Nicolas Cage's face is a pickle 899 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,080 and then it says the end skater Marine 2 or I'll send it to you. 900 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,160 Oh my God, that's perfect. But that. 901 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,400 Is my number one. That is my number one. 902 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,240 That was a piece of shit. I'm telling you, OK, And I'm a 903 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,000 pretty fucking open minded dude. Like, like we were talking about 904 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,760 for a whole hour. You know, we grew up on watching 905 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,760 the the schlockiest of the schlock and finding the good in 906 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,920 them. I just feel like that movie was 907 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,040 that director just blowing himself. 908 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,640 Like, look at how creative. You're not creative, man. 909 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,680 You're filming a corner in a room. 910 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:04,320 Like boy, that was rough. And I I bought into the hype, 911 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,640 everyone. The trailer is scary. 912 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,360 And so I was sold. I was like, OK, something, well, 913 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,560 ethereal is. Happening. 914 00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:14,240 I'm not going to say the trailer was scary, but it was retro. 915 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:18,440 You know, they use like old film, like it was 16mm. 916 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:24,160 And of course, I didn't really pay attention that they were 917 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,080 only filming like toilets and walls and stuff like that. 918 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,000 And there was kids whispering. I mean, it made it look like 919 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,200 there's something interesting going on and there wasn't shit 920 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,920 going on in that movie. No. 921 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,840 So that's that is my number one. I can't believe that that's both 922 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,440 our number ones. I'll give you my other two if 923 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,080 you're if you're trying to think. 924 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,640 Yeah, go for. It all right so my third my 925 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,080 third worst one is Lords of Salem. 926 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:58,680 OK, yeah, they had me and they're saying, I know there's a 927 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:04,200 room full of preachers with some ugly little monster. 928 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,800 And these preachers start jacking off dildos. 929 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,840 I'm like, what is this? Right. 930 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,440 So that's that's number three for me #2 is hereditary. 931 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,120 Oh, you didn't like hereditary? OK. 932 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,600 I did not, and I'll tell you why. 933 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:26,520 OK, so I liked Midsomer because I figured out that a 24 they 934 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,640 like to they like to give you clues up to the finish of their 935 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,560 movies, right? I didn't know that for 936 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,640 Hereditary. OK, I think, I think if you're 937 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,320 going to make a movie, you don't put clues. 938 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,600 You show people a movie. So my list is Lords of Salem 3, 939 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,240 Hereditary 2 and that fucking skin of marine #1. 940 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:50,880 That's not a bad list man, I can't fault you. 941 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:57,440 Although I really hereditary was a, a breath of fresh air for me 942 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,120 because I didn't, I, I went into that knowing nothing. 943 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,720 And you know, we're the kind of family like, or at least my, my 944 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:09,120 wife and I like when, when the kids go away, go to the rooms or 945 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,200 whatever, we'll turn the lights all the way off, turn the 946 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,000 surround sound all the way up. No phones, no bullshit, no 947 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,600 distraction. It's a new movie. 948 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,800 Give it it's hour and a half. And it was, I'll say it's 949 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,520 unnerving. And then when she started, when 950 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,200 she was on the ceiling and was banging her head on the the 951 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,640 trapdoor, my wife lost it. And it was one of those things 952 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,960 where when it got over, we were like, we should turn some lights 953 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,360 on. Yeah, like maybe some, you know, 954 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,960 just just felt it in the chest a little bit. 955 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:41,960 And but my Co host my Co host absolutely hates all a 24 so. 956 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,360 Yeah, me too. Well, I liked X. 957 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,080 Yeah. I didn't like, I didn't like 958 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,320 Maxine or Pearl. Oh. 959 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,080 Man, OK. But I liked XI, thought X was 960 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,720 great. Maxine has a very shallow feel, 961 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:01,720 so I was pretty, pretty jacked on that one for sure. 962 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:09,040 Oh, OK. Yeah, so mainly new movies make 963 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,560 me make my eyes roll like a slot machine. 964 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,520 OK. And since this is fresh, this is 965 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,040 a fresh wound. Strangers Chapter 2 is on my 966 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,920 list. That was real bad. 967 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,720 Oh really? It was real bad. 968 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:29,560 I, you know, I'm biased on that because I love that main big 969 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,840 dude with the suit coat and the bag head. 970 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,160 I, you know, I'm a big fan of that dude so I'll watch whatever 971 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,800 movie he's in. If you hated Chapter 2, did you 972 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:46,600 like the Strangers part too? I did, and I'll say this, I get 973 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,560 why a lot of people didn't like it. 974 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,320 OK, yeah, I'm telling you I like it. 975 00:57:53,320 --> 00:58:00,320 OK, Hell yeah, 'cause I'm a really big geek for style over 976 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,200 substance. I, I want, I want neon color, I 977 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,360 want zooms. I, you know, I want crazy camera 978 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,880 work. I want, I want it to be fun. 979 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,520 I mean, I've seen every slasher ever. 980 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,600 And so if you're if you're going to give me guys chasing people 981 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,520 and killing them, make it visually like, you know, fun for 982 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,760 me, give me neon lights, give me cool, like techno beats and that 983 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,040 synth wave. And so like, I like strangers 984 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,720 too, all on its own compared to stranger, the original 985 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,640 strangers. But I love the original 986 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,960 strangers for the the way it feels. 987 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,000 You know what I mean? It, it feels real and it's it's 988 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,600 a stomach punch of a movie. And strangers too, is like, I 989 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,920 want to eat some popcorn and listen to, you know, new wave 990 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,720 music and neon lights and watch a bite in a pool over an axe, 991 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,040 you know? So I got you man. 992 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,280 Yeah, let's see. Yeah, I'm over here scratching 993 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,400 my head on, on a on another one, man. 994 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,680 I mean, if you if you love them all, then you love them all. 995 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,920 But I got my three, my 3:00 that I never have. 996 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,440 Oh. That one that my my Co host hit 997 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,560 me with and I couldn't do it. I tried a clown in a cornfield. 998 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,640 Oh, you know what? I didn't mind it. 999 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:26,440 I mean, it's one of them Netflix ones at night when you're going 1000 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,960 through and you know, they're all pretty shitty at night, but 1001 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,960 when you got nothing else to do. I watched it. 1002 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,960 It wasn't too bad. I mean, it was just a little. 1003 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,960 I get you, I get you. Yeah, it was a little softer 1004 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,080 than I, you know, than I was anticipating. 1005 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,960 And my my buddy didn't help because he sold it really heavy 1006 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:45,960 to me. He was like, it's got that 1007 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,160 perfect October atmosphere, all of this stuff. 1008 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,160 I. Don't know about that. 1009 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,440 And that's why I was like, why? Because there was cornfields. 1010 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:53,680 I'm like, I live with cornfields. 1011 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,800 They didn't feel like October to me, but you know. 1012 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,560 I amaze people when I say I'm not a fan of the clowns from 1013 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,520 outer space. I'm not a big fan of that. 1014 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,200 Oh. OK, Yeah, why not? 1015 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,080 Is it too campy for you? I guess, Sir, I guess so. 1016 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,960 But I love Campy, don't get me wrong. 1017 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:16,600 But something about that movie, I just really, I don't know why. 1018 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,360 Why would they come from outer space looking like clowns and I 1019 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,720 don't know. I just, you got to get, you got 1020 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,440 to give it up for that ventriloquist scene, though, 1021 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,720 with Officer Mooney. That's pretty rad. 1022 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,120 I get you, but I don't know. We'll keep selling you on it, 1023 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,720 man. I keep keep pushing it on you. 1024 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,400 I hear you. Next time I see you, I'll just 1025 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,120 slip a copy of the Blu-ray in your bag. 1026 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,280 You won't even know that you just every every time we cross 1027 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,320 paths, you'll just have another copy of Killer Klowns from Outer 1028 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,560 Space. Be like that fucking. 1029 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,160 Roger and I'll know that. I'll know exactly where they 1030 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,040 came from here. Hell yeah, man, I will do it. 1031 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,600 Don't put, don't, don't put it past me. 1032 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,240 No problem. Well, I suppose, man, before we 1033 01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,400 wrap this up, let's let everybody listening, watching, 1034 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,360 however they consume this podcast, know where to find you, 1035 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,800 where to find your first book, your new book, when it's coming 1036 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:08,920 out. Do you know when it's coming out 1037 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,560 or do you are you still just kind of? 1038 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,840 I can't believe you haven't asked the most important 1039 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,520 question on the podcast. Which is. 1040 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:22,840 Have you not seen 2001 maniacs? So I was, you know, I literally 1041 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,360 had notes. I have, I have seen that, but I 1042 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,160 was going to bring up you being you being in some indie horror. 1043 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,320 I was. I was in that when I was in the 1044 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,320 blacksmith in that one. Yeah, that's pretty. 1045 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,920 I got my own scene, you know, it only lasts like 5 seconds, but 1046 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,400 still. It's my own scene. 1047 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,760 Robert England, Yeah, is in the movie. 1048 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,080 I'm on the, I'm on the DVD cover. 1049 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,080 Oh, I really don't have. I'm not a social media guy 1050 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,400 because I'm not that good at it. I have Facebook right on. 1051 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,520 You can search. You can search Kevin Kennedy 1052 01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:01,560 CANADY, but put Pondo after that and then you'll you'll find me. 1053 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:07,360 I'll have a Frankenstein mass as my profile picture and then my 1054 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:12,480 Instagram is madman Pondo with the last O being a 0 because 1055 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,280 somebody out there already had bad man Pondo as their Instagram 1056 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,480 name. Can you believe that you're 1057 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,800 going? To have to fight them for it. 1058 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,200 And then if you're interested in buying the first book or the 1059 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,400 second book, you can get either one of them. 1060 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,840 Well, you can get the first one now, but later on, you can get 1061 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,920 the second one on Amazon.com or you can go to John Cosper at 1062 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:45,760 visit darkpark.com. Visit dartpark.com and if you 1063 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,160 get a hold of John Cosper, you can get an autographed copy of 1064 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,760 the book. And then if you bring it to a 1065 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:58,120 wrestling show where I have signified my my Crimson mask all 1066 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,240 over the United States, I will take ink off my off my forehead 1067 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,800 and give you the bloody thumbprint on the first page. 1068 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,440 And the reason I do that is I've seen Jurassic Park. 1069 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,920 And someday, when I pass away, you'll be able to make your own 1070 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,680 little madman Pando. Someday. 1071 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:14,800 I love it, man. Yeah. 1072 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,040 Keep the, keep the legacy going, keep you, keep you coming back. 1073 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,960 Man of 1000 lives. I I. 1074 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:28,160 Want to tell you this man, just you know, as a, as a fan, when 1075 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:33,680 you guys were in Omaha, if you go back and watch that show, my 1076 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,040 son and I are to the left of the entrance ramp. 1077 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,320 We're, we're right there in the entrance ramp and when you leave 1078 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,640 the ring, you give my son a fist bump. 1079 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,840 And this was my son's first wrestling show that he's ever 1080 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,640 been to. And he has not stopped. 1081 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,720 He was, he's 16. He has not stopped talking about 1082 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,880 how rad it was to get a fist bump from you. 1083 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:02,320 And, and, and it, it hooked him. He was like, we're so literally 1084 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,960 every Thursday he is there with us watching lunacy. 1085 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,640 And I mean, he's rooting for you and not, you know, kayfabe, 1086 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,000 whatever. You broke his heart. 1087 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:18,160 You broke his heart. When you, you know, which I'm 1088 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,120 sure you hear all the time, because you have to be a heel, 1089 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,720 you know? JCW broke my heart, so why don't 1090 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,680 why should I not break? Theirs right? 1091 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,800 No shit. Yeah. 1092 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,480 I can't thank you enough for doing this man it. 1093 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,320 No big deal, man. That means. 1094 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,040 The world and we're all rooting for you, you know what I mean? 1095 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,000 So. But on that note, Sir, I suppose 1096 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,320 we should probably get going, because after all, there's a lot 1097 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,400 of movies out there and somebody's got to watch them, so 1098 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,080 why not us, right? That's right. 1099 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,960 Exactly. Don't you pull it out and put it 1100 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,720 back in and see if that that's what she said. 1101 01:04:52,720 --> 01:05:04,720 Thank. You for listening to the Deep 1102 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:13,040 Cut podcast. We sure had a blast trying to 1103 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:21,680 make you all laugh. You gotta set your reminders and 1104 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:27,360 get ready to geek 'cause there's a brand new episode every two 1105 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,640 weeks. Now that you're done with the 1106 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:37,000 show, leave a comment on that shit and let us know your movie 1107 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:42,280 Prop pick. 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