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Oh.
Yeah, it's that time again for another weekly podcast with your
host Rotten, Roger DeMarco. And today I am joined by a
sneaky little Raptor himself, friend of the channel Ace
Homeboy VHS Mikey. Yeah, what?
What up? What up?
What's up, good Sir? It seems like it's probably been
two years since you've been on the show.
Yeah, man, I'm getting, I'm getting long in the tooth.
What does it? What does that mean?
I don't know. I don't know, I I hear old guys
say that. Now that I'm an older guy, I
find myself using these words. Metamucil.
That's what we sip on in between shows.
But yeah, man, for the for the uninitiated who don't know, I'm
about to school you guys on Mr. VHS.
Mikey, who has been down with the clown, down with the show as
as as it were for a very, very long time.
So long, in fact, we've done multiple things together,
including make a movie, which is wild.
What? Yeah, we've been killed on
camera together. That was a, That was a puppet
that I sent over. It was a very nice.
Chronic Now. Yes, yeah.
Oh, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey style up in here.
It's totally there. They're still in that.
Bed. Exactly.
But yeah, man. So for the folks who don't know
about Mr. VHS, Mikey, I'm going to go ahead and say it.
You're a staple when it comes to the VHS community.
You do a lot for the VHS community.
You're a very funny, likable, personable dude.
And I got to rewind to in the Wayback Machine when you came
across my radar. You know, you you had been
watching the channel for a hot minute, but then you posted a
video of your local theater slash video store going out of
business, and it made me cry like a newborn baby.
And that's when I knew, like, this guy is one of us.
This guy is special, especially with your video editing
capabilities and the emotions that you're able to, you know,
pull out of people, which is not something a lot of people can
do. And yeah, I just want to know
how you got started in this community.
Oh well. I the, the community thing was a
bit crazy because I was doing a nostalgia channel, as you said,
sneaky little Raptor earlier and I was out on a haul.
We just went to a thrift store and I saw ACRT television and I
fell to my knees and I was staring into it and it was like
I was bombarded by, by VHS gamma rays And I knew what I wanted to
do with my life for the rest of my life.
So I bought that, that, that CRT.
I bought a couple shitty tapes. You know, anything I could get.
You know how it is when you first start collecting?
Yeah, you want everything, all of it.
You don't realize space is limited.
And I took it all home and I think it ate my first tape, but
I was determined to get it to work.
And before I knew it, I was trying to introduce myself to
the VHS community. And I remember the very first
post I got completely roasted by them.
They're ruthless. Every community had, you know.
They they dragged me hard, but I eventually won them over.
I don't think all of them. Of course, you're always going
to have your outliers, right? I feel like I'm definitely part
of of the crew now for sure. Yeah, dude, you, you tap into a
very, like soft spot of we're from the same generation.
You know, we're getting older as the days go by.
We're watching the world change. And there's something very
special about holding on to your youth, the things that, you
know, bring back all of those fond memories.
And and it's just like Wayne's World, you know, evil.
And I say it all the time, we fear change.
I don't want the world to change.
I want to hold on to what I have.
I want to keep it the way it should be and I can't do that
outside of my 4 walls. So inside of my 4 walls, I do
the best that I can to keep that, you know, keep that alive.
So. You know, you, you mentioned
evil. It was evil's laugh that got me
to watch your video for the first time.
You showed up, I want to say just on my feed randomly and I,
I just clicked in like, oh, who are these upstarts?
You know, who are these young upstarts?
And I, you guys were just nailing these zingers back and
forth and your movie knowledge. I was like, I want to be friends
with these guys and they don't know it yet, but I'm going to be
their best friends. That's right, I'm I'm
infiltrating the the barracks, as it were.
So I guess we were thinking of each other kind of at the same
time. I I guess the algorithm for once
brought us together. Yeah, the algorithm does not do
us many favors, but it did do this favor, that's for sure.
Oh, let me tell you about the hard knock lives of the
algorithm. Yeah, I was going to bring up.
So I I, you know, I brought it up, introducing you with this
sneaky little Raptor. You know, when you're in this
game, as long as we've been in this game, of course we're going
to have some what you said, like false startup type of deals.
You know, we're going to have some, we're going to have some
that seems like a great idea and it never takes off.
And then it kind of just morphs into something different.
So with Sneaky Little Raptor, it was essentially the same as what
you are, but but a little more loose, you know what I mean?
So yeah, you want to discuss how that came all about?
Well, I was more into wacky stunts back then.
I I would go out and I've just like film a day in my life every
day for a year. I whatever happened, I might
just review the, the, the trash in the ditch, like check out
this natty light, you know, and I get my camera all down in it.
You know, this was a a drinking connoisseur and and you know, I,
I think I did shitty, shitty playground reviews like all the
broken playground equipment that you get multiple lacerations
sliding down. Yeah, Rust and.
Scratches, yeah. Yeah, and just kind of made fun
of the general community and it took off here, but that's it.
Like I, I still have people shout sneaky little Raptor when
I'm riding my bike down the road.
My my E bike, my cursed E bike. And I miss it.
But like, I also felt like I I needed to grow past just
entertaining my town, you know, with wacky town antics.
Yeah. And yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
I was to say. And then you kind of tapped into
over the past, I'd say 2 years, you and I both are, are big
cable TV like horror host, TV host.
You know, you got like Joe Bob and and around here for me, I
have Doctor Sanguinary and stuff like that.
You started kind of inching into that community of sort of like a
horror host. And you don't necessarily have
like a horror show, but you're very in tune with all of the
wacky antics of ATV host that, you know, a Pee Wee's Playhouse
type of deal with your puppets and whatnot.
So I wanted to cut some of the yes.
So some of your major influences when it comes to the the video
alley, you know who, who are some of your major influences
when it comes to stuff like that.
For me it was Doctor Creep and Cleveland's the Ghoul.
I've big he was kind of a mad scientist type character where
Doctor Creep is more of your your your typical horror lurker
with a Cape and a he had a big old white beard, which I I'm
starting to look like him a little bit.
I actually saw Doctor Creep towards the end of his career
when he had multiple surgeries and I remember thinking, man,
you know, this is it for Doctor Creep And now I feel like I'm
getting there like some kids going to see me and be like,
man, this is it for VHS monkey. He's.
Walking with a limp, he's got a big old boil on his back.
But I don't know you, you still look at those guys like legends.
No matter how old that get, you can't age when you're a horror
host. And even if you die, someone
else is going to take your your character and kind of reinvent
it a little bit. Like how there's been multiple
the ghouls, most multiples spin ghoulies and so forth.
And your your only dream is to be immortal like that and have
someone else take on your persona.
I'm still looking for my persona.
So reason I haven't went full ghoul because I I don't I'm I'm
still trying out different things.
I learned capes weren't a good idea.
I saw the E bike, I had one get wrapped in my E bike tire.
Trying to kill you pet sematary 2 style, you know.
It just like jerked me back and I went flying off it, but I I
just got a just my cheeks got a little skinned up.
That's dangerous. That's dangerous.
So kids, don't ride your Kirsty bike with a with a Cape.
Yeah, unless you're going 50 so your Cape stays afloat, you
know? Well, you know, I was just
accelerating, so that's all reason I didn't get hurt real
bad. You are really lucky.
That's scary bro. Yeah, well, you know, those
little near misses kind of make you think a little bit.
Yeah. Your time is limited on this
planet. Any random silly thing can
happen to you and. You also you also took took the
bump pretty well, probably because of the years of like
like us with backyard wrestling and stupid stunts.
If you do a lot of stupid stunts, you kind of get used to
how to fall. I don't know that we're we're
ever going to be those old people who like, oh, he fell
down and broke his hip. Like, I don't think that's ever
going to happen because. Well, no, would be I'm you'd
roll into it a little bit. You know, I'm the type of dude
that if I'm walking with a boom box and I'm I'm I know I'm
falling. I can, I can keep the boom box
up, you know, protect the tunes, baby.
I'm going to bust my ass, but them tunes are going to be
pristine. It feels weird being interviewed
by you because I've clogged your toilet before.
Yes. We've we've eaten many of cheese
pizza together. Your house is always full of
various Youtubers, directors, actors, you.
Your home is like open to everybody.
This is true, yeah. And when you came for when we,
you came when we shot tape head and you were here for like a
week and then you came back a few months later when it was
time to edit tape head and it was like a non-stop just hang
out. And we and we have been
attempting to make that happen again.
But every summer something happens and, you know, we just
never get there. Like this summer, I believe.
Then you have another basement flood, which is like, yes, the
it's like the. Worst.
Yeah, it's our worst nightmare in the Midwest.
Your basement gets flooded or your roof gets ripped off.
You know something like that is gonna happen, so.
That was my first year here. My roof went off and now I've
had three basement floods and it just eats.
It eats your finances. And I'm not making nothing on
YouTube, right? I've made my first $5 this year.
That was like a big deal. I was like, I made $5.
That's glorious. 15 years of video making 5.
Dollars, as evil always says, you know, we'll leave the car at
the red light when we get that first check.
You know, unfortunately the first check is like that.
It's like 5 bucks, you know? Yeah.
And you're like, well, I guess we'll split a Coke.
I, I don't, I don't even know that I've taken it out of there
yet, but I should probably do that.
Invested in Bitcoin? A hawk to a coin perhaps?
I don't even know if that's still a thing.
I I don't know, I I think she got in trouble for the Hawk 2
coin. Yeah, I think she was a fraud
drug pool, but I think she was just someone who got too big too
quick and then and got swept up with the wrong people.
I don't think she had I'll intent.
No, I just think she was not not the the most intelligent person.
I mean, she was obviously, it was obviously a giver.
Yeah, yeah. With with both hands, I don't.
Sorry, I get you all sidetracked.
No, you're, you're all good, man.
Yeah, I was thinking this isn't necessarily an interview.
This is more than just catching up because we haven't really
gotten a chance to talk and hang out.
Like I said, we, our, our lives are so it seems like they're,
they're so mundane, but they're also so crazy at the exact same
time to where it's like I can't really sit down and shoot the
shit for over an hour unless we schedule it, which is kind of
dumb, you know? Well, my whole thing is if I'm
going to talk to a friend, we might as well turn on some
cameras and and share it with the world.
That's right. Yeah.
And it can live forever once, you know, once we're gone, that
conversation exists forever. So yeah, I wanted to talk to you
a little bit about getting into your vector art and things like
that. Like when?
When exactly? I know you've always been an
artistic person, but when you were a kid, were you like the
type that always had a notebook? Were you always doodling?
Or like what fostered that? What fostered that creativity?
I wasn't a very good artist, but I wanted to be a good artist and
I would draw every. I used to draw these little
comic books and and I found an old Xerox copy machine and I
would print them. And I noticed that print looks
better if I draw everything in ink.
So I got used to not ever drawn anything with a pencil.
And I would draw everything in ink so it looked good on print.
You're a tracer. Yeah, I was a tracer.
And when I went to college, I was, I was failing out of every
class horribly because I never even really had a computer
before. And I was in this digital
school, but they taught me this program called Illustrator in
the very first month and I loved it.
And then we moved past it into computer animation, all this
other crazy stuff. And I didn't want to leave that.
And once I dropped out of college, I found that that one
little skill kept me employed for the next 20 years.
Yeah, dude, that's like you learn something new and you're
like, this is awesome. I'm going to hang on to this.
And that's I'm kind of a victim of that as well when it comes to
video editing. There's so many different,
better video editors out there. And I'm like, I'm using Vegas,
you know, like I, I know, I know Vegas inside and out.
And I know there's a billion other like tools that you can
use when it comes to like Da Vinci and things like that.
But I'm like, yeah, I'm but I'm good with this.
So it's, it's very tough. Like you learn something and
you're like, Yep, I can do this, like you said, and keep you
employed for 20 years. I had a teacher say to me, go
with what you know. Like if you know this program,
why waste time learning a new program to just to get caught
back up where you were? If you're really good at this
old archaic, maybe use Photoshop 3:00 and you're just amazing at
it, why move on from it, you know?
Yeah, or GIMP in my. I use GIMP because it's free and
not not like I'd do anything spectacular with it, but I'm
like I can put words on my thumbnails so.
Well, you got you got all those like all those ghetto programs
that you fully mastered and and probably gotten better at.
Then I am at my regular programs and like I don't know how to do
crazy multi camera stuff. Like you got this shit.
That stuff's pretty cool. This is, this was a very
stripped down basic setup because I had to figure out how
can I do this without $1,000,000, You know what I
mean? And that's when you have no
budget. Creativity like creativity breed
or whatever necessity breeds creativity.
Is that the saying so? Yeah, I believe so.
Yeah, so it's like I didn't want to spring for crazy equipment
and billion dollar cameras. I was like, let me work with
what I got. That was Mr. Drew Marvick's pool
party massacre, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, he gave me this to me. I bought a a rubber head off
him. I don't know why.
I think he needed money for a movie and I needed a rubber
head, which has become a really awkward thing to have in your
house when you have company when.
Pizza Lady comes over. Yeah, it looks like me and the
pizza ladies. That's a whole other story.
It looks really awkward when you have a rubber head.
A headless lady with a GIMP mask on.
Or a ball game. Or thrills, doesn't he?
But he gave me this and I was like, oh it's perfect for
keeping my jammers and. Yeah, yeah, it's a perfect
little gimmick. You know me, I'm like, I'm like
a, I'm like an alleyway. Carrot Top, yes.
All the props, baby. Well, the props make the show,
and that's important, you know? Like I said, you kind of taught
me that man. Your shows have always looked
the best out of the whole community and I've learned so
much from you, from lighting to sound.
You're always recommending me sound boards and all this stuff
and it has greatly improved my content.
I. Appreciate that man.
I I think that like I said, you know, when you, when you don't
have a lot and you have a limited space like you, I have
been to your house. I know the, the space that
you're working with, you've been in this house, you know, the
space that I'm working with. And when it comes to like set
design or whatever, you kind of strip it down and you go, what
can I do to sell this? Because I only need it to sell
on this side of the camera. It doesn't need to sell
anywhere, you know what I mean? Yeah, nothing has to happen over
there. So yeah, you just kind of work
work that way and and you can do it really cheap and make it look
really nice if you just take some time.
And I love the video alley for sure.
Well thank you this is I'm I'm rebuilding it right now because
a lot of it got damaged. I was starting to store stuff
downstairs so I've lost a lot of the alley but I am rebuilding it
back up stupid. I'm planning on doing a huge
investment in props and and puppets this year.
Yes, nothing wrong with that because then it's like you said,
when you don't have a Co host, you invent Co hosts, you know?
Yes, make your own friends, make your own crew.
I don't like one thing I always liked about your shows.
You have Eagle Eagle, you have evil to Tom Eagle.
Look at you all to make an eagle puppet.
You have evil to kind of play off of and talk to.
And you guys are really good at bouncing back and forth.
And sometimes when I want to set a joke up, I don't have any
friends here to record with or people that would want to be on
camera per SE. I don't want to say I don't have
friends, but they're not necessarily everybody.
He wants to be a YouTube star. Yeah.
So I I having puppets gives me someone to talk.
To yeah, well, I get that man. And yeah, with, with evil and I,
since we've known each other for so long, we can literally finish
each other's sandwiches. You know, it's, it's one of
those things where he kind of ping pongs it to me and I can
ping pong him back or vice versa.
And we just kind of know what each other's thinking ahead of
time. But you've got the, you've got
the best of it because if you have your puppets, it's, it's
written, you know, those jokes are written.
So they're not kind of with evil.
And I sometimes they're not as refined because we didn't take
the time to write them. They're just kind of off the
cuff like and hope to God, one of us bounces.
But when you're, when you're sitting down and you're like,
I'll have my puppet say this, you know, you can, you can
really dial in that punchline. So.
Yeah, a lot of the oh, sorry, go.
Ahead. I wasn't say it just it works
like gangbusters for you, man. A lot of the time I use it to
fix bad edits, like maybe I lose my train of thought or I'm not
really staying on on. I can have the the ghost like
pipe in and then when I re edit and I record something new, I
can I can fix it. You know, it's like, it's like a
way of fixing shitty content. Yeah, that's same thing with us,
with the the cellar dweller who is right over there and is going
to probably say something obnoxious.
You know I. Do.
Have a name and you can eat my ass, But you know, you got to
have something like that. You got to have some fun shit
that you can you can cut to. And you know, I kind of consider
you the master of that because you you kind of showed me those.
Like you use your miniatures and then you'll use a miniature, but
you'll Chroma Key out the screen and then use it like it's a full
size TV and stuff like that. I was like, that's genius.
It's an. Oh, it's all it is, is it's an
overlay, essentially. Yeah, 100%.
And, and it just, it works so well and you know, you could get
like crazy deep into it and want to create parallax and all of
that stuff. But it's like, again, like, what
do I need this to sell for that this needs to sell like this.
And it works like a charm, you know what I mean?
And it's, it's beautiful and I love it.
Well, and to be clear, none of this helps our channels any, no.
It's just shit that we obsess with.
Yeah, it's shit we obsess over. Megan tells me that all the
time. It's like you, you probably
don't need to work as hard. Like, you do all of these
things. And it's like, you know what?
People watch 10 second Tik Toks that have no work put into them
whatsoever. And I'm a victim of that where
I'm like, what? I don't want to just hold my
phone up and go blah blah blah. I.
Want a nice set? I want a fireplace.
I want puppets. You know what I mean?
Yeah, even when I do a TikTok, I, I, I, I film it just like a
regular video. I, I, I do all the same props.
I do all the same cuts. I just film it vertical and I
just create like an episode. It's just a shorter episode.
We were using TikTok and then we got banned from TikTok, so I'm
not. How?
They said they said we were impersonating or imitating
another channel and I got blocked.
Oh, lovely, lovely. Yeah, I was like, who's who's
the other Deep Cut podcast out there that's in a cabin with,
you know, 2 fat white guys? That's just 'cause you get
autumn, autumn, like it's an auto thing, like some robot
kicked you out. It's happening on YouTube right
now. A lot of people are losing their
channels and they're so small they can't even fight for it.
No one believes them, you know, nor listens.
I don't want that to happen to me.
I, I would be heartbroken. I don't know that I, I could,
I'd recover from that cause I've had this dream even before I
knew what YouTube was. I wanted to be on TV.
So you know, we'd make home movies just like you, we make
home movies with your friends and you always dreamed of, of
just making it. And then YouTube came out and
I'm like, this is exactly what all my skills are finally coming
together to do. And of course I have not been
successful on that either, but. You know, our, our success is
not comparable to like a, a Mr. Beast success.
You know, because I, I, as much as I want, like all of the
money, give me all the money for the content.
I, I will take the like 30-40 people that come around on a,
you know, die hard, like auto download, clicking what you're
watching, commenting on everything.
And you know, because you're building a community.
And that's the most important thing because like I bring up
all the time of like growing up and not having a lot of friends.
This allows you to have those friends and build that
community. And it's my pump up the volume
moment. My favorite bands in the world
are garage bands that never made it.
And were they any less great? No, they were awesome.
So maybe we're just garage bands, dude.
Or under underground. You listen a lot of underground,
you listen to the clowns and stuff.
Yes, I do. Maybe you're just the YouTube
version of that. Yeah, you know.
There's nothing wrong with being underground man.
I think somebody there was a book that came out recently and
he called me the toxic or no, the trauma of YouTube, and I've
never been so honored in my life.
I love that. Yes, yeah, That's that's
perfect. I'll take that.
That's like when our tape head came out, the first tape head,
the short or feature, whatever you want to call it, it was
getting called trauma meets clerks or hatchet meets meets
clerks. So many people said trauma meets
clerks. Other people said hatchet meets
meets clerks. And you couldn't get, yeah, you
couldn't get a better compliment.
Like, because we kept it funny, we kept it gory.
We didn't take it too seriously and like it is, it is exactly.
If you were to like examine you, me and evil under a microscope
to break down our DNA, it would be that first tape head movie.
That's us. That's us in a nutshell.
Slime titties, you know, wrestling blood.
So. Much blood.
I would like to double the titties next next time around.
But and and definitely the slime.
And we could. All right, I got an idea before
I get on a titty rant. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll move away
from that. Never.
We need to talk about Tape Hawk, the son of Tape Head, and I've
been thinking about him a lot. And what better way to continue
the series than a edgy 90s teen tape head with with a cool hawk
that he could put his tapes in and I've never seen anybody draw
that before. And he could change out
different moves like he puts in a martial arts tape.
It loads it in, yeah. Yeah, like he's super like make
it way over the top and wacky and then I could work in.
We had a little contention on this.
My hobo battle armor to battle him.
So. The stuff we don't have a budget
for. So on a, on a sidebar of that, I
don't know if you've seen this yet.
I, I swear to God, when I got it, I'm, I sent a picture of it
to you or maybe even the trailer.
But have you seen the last video store?
No, I haven't. No.
Oh my. God, when this podcast is over,
I'm going to send you the trailer for it.
It's about an hour, 10 minute movie.
And the guy who made the movie, he runs his own real video store
that's like in the basement of a building, but it it it's like
dying in real life, like his video store, like no one rents
movies anymore. So I think he took like a year
or two worth of his earnings and then he shot a movie in this
video store and it's, it's so very psycho gore, man, Like DIY
crazy, over the top gore, just the the most insane shit ever.
And it's so much fun. And you will love it.
You will think it's the greatest thing ever.
And I can't wait for you to see it, dude.
And it sounds right up my alley. Video store horror.
If it has puppets, it'll be a 10 out of 10, you know?
Yeah, it, well, it's got some stop motion.
It's got some stop motion, which is.
That works. That counts.
Yeah, absolutely counts.
So yeah, I gotta, I gotta hear what you think of it because
I've I've been pushing it on evil.
I've owned it for about a year now and I'm like, dude, do
yourself a favor and watch it. And he's real hard to get like
motivated to watch a new movie. And I even tell him like it's
short, it's not that long and it's not, it never drags, it's
never like a slog. So.
And he's like, I'll get to it, I'll get to it, but I know
you'll get to it, so. He has to watch a more Nightmare
on Elm Street movies over again. This is true.
You know, I mean, everyone's got their comfort food, but I've
been, I've been really trying over this past year to not just
stick to comfort food. I've been trying to kind of
branch out and watch a little bit more.
Well, I get a lot of tapes in the mail, so it kind of I end up
watching stuff I never even thought I would watch and I end
up watching St. trash the other day that the remake slash
sequel. There's a little contention on
whether it's a sequel and the a lot of people didn't like it,
like the critics and maybe some of the hardcore horror heads.
Yeah, I loved it. It was everything I wanted from
street trash. Yeah, you sold me.
On exploding hobos and and green and blue blood and yeah.
The more the more outrageous the better, so I'm all for it.
And I thought the hobo characters were more likeable in
this one. There was nobody likeable in the
original. They're all mean assholes.
Yeah, they, they have a little, a little hobo crew that you
actually root for. So if any of them die, you're
like, oh man, I didn't want that guy to die.
And I knew he's going to die because he was fat.
And a fat guy explodes. Well, you know.
Oh yeah, Philips. And I saw a fat guy walk on
screen. He's like he's exploding later.
Or an escalator is going to eat him, you know what I mean?
And they snuck in a puppet so I was like I didn't know St. trash
needed a puppet. Now I I can't imagine St. trash
without a puppet. Like it needs needs.
I want more movies with more puppets and more St. trash.
Keep it going. I don't care if it's a a popular
take or not, I love that movie. You know, but we grew up in an
era of little puppeted monsters. There's tons of movies with
little puppeted monsters, and they have a very, like, specific
charm for our generation. Yeah, like when we were kids,
they made monster puppets for us as toys.
We had the bog ones. Look at that fucking thing.
No, you're good. You're good.
I just got his. I just got his one eye on there.
I'm all proud of it. It's glorious, dude.
Let me just derail your entire train of thought with I've been
trying to get better about that when people are talking not to
be so ADHD like. That that's just who we are,
man. No, that's just who we are.
But yeah, I was gonna say like we grew up on that kind of
stuff. So it's natural to to want to
have puppets. Like when we were doing the
video reviews, that was one of the things that I wanted so bad
as I was like, I need little puppets of Roger and evil
because even if I was only going to do 1 segment with them, you
know, I did the 1 Zuni fetish doll skit, like whatever Trilogy
of Terror with the Roger puppet or the evil puppet.
And like it was totally worth it.
And I wish I could do more, but I have to.
More ideas have to pop into my brain.
I think I think your little skits you did would be perfect
for little mini tik toks. I don't know if you still have
the original footage or anything that you can edit right, you
know, get it in the vertical, but I think those all would just
be an endless mind for you of content.
I do. I can still, I mean I can
download them straight from YouTube, so.
I've got trouble transferring my over because I, I have all these
stupid cartoon effects that get in the way of the graphic and
now I'm not going to film like that anymore.
I, I got to think about, OK, will this work vertically too?
You know it's. So weird to, I mean, it's a
whole new ball game thinking about vertical video and it
throws me off a lot. Every time.
I'm like, well, especially with the podcast, that's why I'm
like, well, try to make sure that everybody's centered in all
of their cameras. And then when I'm breaking them
down into shorts, hopefully I don't have any of that like
weird jittery bounce to the left, bounce to the right, stuff
going on the pan and scan as it were.
You got a pan and scan your TikTok videos?
It makes me feel like I'm working on a VHS tape or
something. So I have a new kind of a
structure that I've been doing for these.
I'm going to call air quotes. I'm going to call this an
interview, even though this is just a regular podcast with you
and me. Yeah, sure.
And how I do the last half of this, This is called Hot Takes.
And I have a list of 10 things with AB answers that are
tailored specifically to you. OK, now you can, you can just
pick and not go on a tangent, or you can pick and explain why and
everything. Either way is, you know, if you
just want to blast through them or if you want to rant, I'm for
it no matter what. So and they're going to be
tough. They're I think they're going to
be tough. And that's they're literally
tailored to you so. I'm ready.
Let me get a puff of smoke get you out.
I'm going to have some fire answers.
All right, I'm going to take a little sip of my Lacroix.
Lacroix, dude, those things are classy.
You got me hooked on the white monsters and then you switch to
those, I guess, metrosexual sodas.
And now, now I need to get on those too because I want to be
skinny like you, man. You're getting in shape.
And now I'm now I'm the big fat friend and I don't like it.
Winter time is putting the pounds back on because I this is
my seasonal depression section of the year.
You know, I as soon as August ends all the way to like April,
I kind of am like Jack Torrance. I want to kill everybody.
You know what I mean? I'm like, I'm cold.
I hate, I can't, I feel. Trapped.
And I'm, I just, you know, I gain weight because I'm trapped
and I'm sad because it's cold and everything hurts.
Like it's literally 30° in the cabin right now.
It's so cold down here. The cold's been good for the
smoke. It keeps it at a nice, like,
even, Oh yeah, like, instead of going way up into the air, it
just kind of stays really nice. Yes, yeah, If you got a cold
floor, it totally works. The dry, the dry ice effect or
whatever. Yeah, All right.
Like. I said I got ten of these for
you and I'm, I'm curious so #1 trauma full moon.
Oh man. That right out the.
Gate that's not right man, that's not right.
I'm gonna go with the full moon because I have even though I
love trauma. God I love trauma.
You're the trauma of YouTube. I found yes I found myself
watching full moon more in my free time even though I like
watching trauma with friends. Because of puppets perhaps?
More puppets in full Muppets for sure.
All right, this is this next one is a little bit of a deep cut.
It might be to some folks, this might seem like they don't go
together, but they do go together because I know you and
we talked a little bit about comfort cinema, comfort food.
So Bram Stoker's Dracula, Lost Boys.
OK, although I love the classiness of Bram Stoker's
Dracula at night, as you know, I like to put in Lost Boys.
That helps me fall asleep, something soothing and
comforting about it. Anytime I have trouble sleeping,
like when I was sleeping at your house, you, you, you had it out
for me so I can fall asleep in a strange place.
So I'm going to have to go with Lost Boys 100%.
All right, yeah, nothing wrong with that.
Nothing wrong with that. I just, you know, they're both
vampire movies, but they are a different flavor of popcorn for
sure. But if if anyone was to know
you, if you peel back the layers and know VHS Mikey, VHS Mikey
has some very specific comfort food when it comes to resting
and sleeping. And as we do, Megan and I have
and we have our forensic files or our law and order.
Can't go to sleep without hearing about someone getting
cut up and stuffed in a garbage bag.
Found three states over. You know this next one little
little food choice for you. Pretty broad, but I think I know
you well enough to know. But pizza or burgers?
Oh, even though we ate a lot of bag of burgers at your house,
I'm definitely a pizza guy. As you know, I order so much
pizza that I often end up with a pizza girlfriend or at least a
pizza date. I think I I've had four or five
pizza related interactions with some ladies.
We we'll just leave it at interactions.
Yes, yes, and yeah. So another sidebar that ties
into this. For Ninja Turtles.
Yes, exactly it makes you a ninja if you eat pizza that's
100% factual. But for those of you that are
not in the know, VHS Mikey has a has a a distinct condiment
hatred. And so burgers are they're
primarily A condiment heavy food.
So so how do you eat your burgers?
Do you just eat them with cheese?
Just straight cheese. Yeah, cheese and beef.
That's it. Nothing else.
I, I and I like a lot of bread. Like I think that's what I, I
make it up with. Like I like a ridiculous amount
of bread on them. A large, large bun perhaps?
It's just, yeah, it's just a it's just more bread than than
meat. Carbs baby carb loading smart.
All right, Maxine, for sure. This this is next one.
This is this is real tough and we've talked about both of them
over the course of this hour, but puppets stop motion.
Oh, I'm going to go with puppets.
Even though I like stop motion a lot, puppets are just so I I
love the behind the scenes. Anytime I see a geek like behind
something or laying on his side with his hand up some bird's
ass, I want to be that guy, you know?
Yeah, the Jim, the Jim Henson like bobbing his head and.
Dark. Crystal Yeah, nothing wrong with
that. Plus, I feel like puppets.
It's the magic is happening on. It's in camera.
It's live, live right then and there.
And stop motion is one of those things where you've really got
to wait to see the magic. You spend a year taking pictures
with stop motion before you go. I got that seven seconds to that
skeleton. Terrible.
Yeah, that fucking skeleton walking across the screen.
I fucked. That up and no one now.
Now, you could literally take one frame and another frame and
then have AI do all the in betweens and I, I can guarantee
you we're going to see a lot of animated movies coming out in
the next 10 years. Yeah, because of that.
And I'll tell you this man, I, we talk off air a lot behind the
scenes. One of the things that I want to
do before I die that I have on my bucket list is create that
like 5, maybe 10 episodes of Roger and Evil's video store
adventures. And I'm to the point now where I
have enough artwork, but I can't animate and I don't have, if
this channel would pop off, I'd pay someone to animate.
But there's a lot of hate with AI.
But I, I'm going to be within the next like 5 years probably
being able to be like and he walks over here and then it
creates a walk cycle for me, you know?
Well, it looks better than what I was making yeah, I don't I
don't have that that that level of skill from what the the
little mini clips you've sent me, I'm not that good.
So it's it's literally better than me.
So I don't know what to say about that.
I I guess I. Need to get better and plus
it'll actually finish the cartoon whereas I I probably
would get distracted by 300 different mini projects that I
never finished either. It happens, man.
And that's why like, I hate to be like, you know, AI is the
future, but it kind of is. I don't want to.
I don't want to make anybody mad and.
You're going to get a lot of bad comments.
Everybody is going to be. Lighting you on fire today.
I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry.
All right, well, this is AVHS community question for you,
because I know that that some people really are firmly planted
in the sand with this. They they don't budget pan and
scan widescreen. No pan and scan for me.
I I every like when I think of VHSI don't I never think of a
wide screen because I I watch most of my movies on a little 7
inch TV right here right and I can imagine also having the bars
of death on it like. I'm paying for the seven inches.
All on a big screen. If I had a big screen cool but
or some of them plasmas got a little bit bigger towards the
end or whatever. But I I I don't know.
Not for me. I'm definitely pan and scan
100%. I don't want something when I
make somebody avhsi always pan and scan it.
Right, I was going to say I don't think like widescreen does
not feel VHS. And then so I have to go ahead
and say that when we when domestic terrorist records put
out tape head the return of Jacob Cobb on VHS, that's the
one regret I have because I gave them the file and then they did
not crop it in and make it a pan and scan.
They just released the widescreen format.
And there's something really weird about a widescreen VHS
that gets mooshed to A4, you know, 4.3.
So I regret that. I'm with you when it comes to
VHS being pan and scan. That's how it should be.
I made, I edited the original tape head into a pan and scan
because I was trying to get you Avhs out.
So the original tape head I have in pan and scan to this very day
and it's slightly edited different because I kind of had
to, yeah. Because of all the weird
graphics and stuff that we had. And another thing when we
filmed, I don't because there was three of us, we'd have one
guy way over here, one guy way over here and a guy in the
middle. And I could only choose one guy
to be on the screen at each time.
No, it made the conversation parts kind of jarring.
It's very Ghostbusters in the elevator like.
A lot of that for sure. All right, this this next one is
an animated question for you. I think I know your answer, but
again, 2 two different flavors of popcorn for sure, Beavis and
Butt Head Ren and Stimpy. Oh, Beavis and butt head.
He was a Ren and Stimpy guy. He didn't.
I can't remember his name now, but his reputation did not end
up too well. And again, that's between.
Does it spoil the art? That's a whole other
conversation, but I find myself obviously going back and
watching Beef some butt head. To this very day, I'm still
trying to find copies of it with the music videos intact.
Because when you buy the DVDs and stuff, they always remove
the music videos and that's like part of the show.
Some of the best jokes are in the music videos.
Yep, you need those. And I think, I think Evil has a
bunch of VHS tapes that were like dubbed off of MTV that have
those music videos intact, if I'm not mistaken, because I'm
pretty sure we've had that conversation because he's a
stickler for that as well. Like you got to have those music
videos otherwise the episodes are literally like 5-5 minutes
if even you know so like those. Baseball won't mean anything
without some fire. Fire while they're shouting over
a gore video. I don't think that was on the
same episode, but you know what I mean.
Yeah, I get you. Man.
And plus the when I review VHS tapes, I review it in a very
Beavis and Butt head style. Yeah, and you even.
Have like those? Yeah, yeah.
Doesn't say you like the same thing.
You do it too. Yeah, you have the asset that is
very Beavis and Butt head with the laughing.
And that's so I was like, I was pretty sure I knew your answer.
You know I love Ren and Stimpy's art style.
Yeah, that's cool, Very cool. And especially when they do
those like matte paintings that you know, they do the real.
Close-ups. I like the close-ups.
Gross. I love that, you know?
Yeah, that's the real gross out factor for Ren and Stimpy.
But Beavis and butt head is, is one of those things that even
after years of like, you know, when I was a teenager,
eventually, like my mom got it. You know, my mom would be like,
this is so dumb. And then eventually it clicked
with her that it's actually smarter than than the surface
level, which is which is great when you see like an adult
figure like trashing something and then they're like, wait a
minute, it's actually got like some heart and soul.
And you know, obviously Mike Judge knows what he's doing.
So. Everything he does is I I don't
think I've ever watched a Mike Judge thing I didn't like, so
yeah. He's the man, all right.
Next little horror host for you. So Elvira or Joe Bob Briggs.
Oh, Joe Bob Briggs, even though I love Elvira, who doesn't love
her and her perfect rack? But man, Joe Bob, he has those
jokes that you don't want to stay in polite company, but you
can't quit giggling about him. And I love his controversy.
I love everything about the dude from the look, the consistency.
I feel like you could watch movies with with Joe Bob, like
if he was over, he he that he could set the character aside
and watch movies with you, like, and then have fun doing it.
Yeah, Elvira is, I don't know. I don't know what it is
different, but I just love Joe Bob more.
Like with Elvira, I think it is like 100% just a shtick.
You know it's a, it's, it's a job rather than.
I mean, she's great at it. Don't.
Get it out. No.
Yeah, I love her. I love her.
Two. Elvira fans are going to be
booing me here. Two big pumpkins, you know, I
mean, so she's a brand and she's a very specific brand and she's
funny and she's great at what she does.
But someone like Joe Bob, who seems like they really analyzed
the movie, they they put a ton of effort and a ton of work into
all the behind the scenes stuff that they learn so that they're
not just giving you kind of one off riffs of like, Oh yeah, that
head looked like crap or whatever.
You know what I mean? That not not just some bullshit
throwaway joke, It's more more in depth, but which is really
like a juxtaposition of he's a stupid redneck, but he's very
well read when it comes to the to the cinema, you know.
Well, I, I've lived in country towns my whole life.
I'm, I'm like this weird hybrid country guy where I'm like where
I'm morbidly online, but also a country guy.
And I, I guess I relate to it because it's like watching T
like I had a real funny stepdad. When you watch shit with him, he
would always be talking about the chicks racks and, and I
think I got a little bit of that in me.
Like, you know, I think I've said racks like 3 times this
show. And you, you do that too.
Oh yeah. Your, your wife's probably
cringing at us right now, but we'll move past that.
But I guess I just relate to it's like watching it with my my
stepdad, you know? Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. And like you said, yeah, feels
very like you could sit down and watch a movie with them.
Which even when I did get the chance to do that, we saw Texas
Chainsaw Massacre 2 with him. He hosted it.
And then he did like he, you know, he talked for an hour
before the movie, played the movie, talked for like 1/2 hour
after the movie, and then met with everybody and signed
autographs and stuff. And I'm I hate Texas Chainsaw
Massacre 2 but the chance. We did.
We'll just, we'll just soundly disagree there.
I mean, it's, it's a definite it, it's a movie.
It's a flavor for some. People play you dog Dick.
Yeah, incoming mail, you know, it's it is what it is, but.
It was my first movie so. Your first Texas chainsaw.
First, Texas Chainsaw Massacre was, too.
Woo, I might have never watched another one if I but two or four
would have been like. I was, I was the perfect age.
And my grandpa, he knew what we were going to watch and he made
us chili and he was waiting for that moment.
Oh. Baby, that's awesome.
Be like. You know what's in my chili?
You know some of them hard shell peppercorns.
All right, next, next is it goes after both of our hearts, I
suppose. But Kool-aid jammers or monster
boys? OK, are we talking about on
screen Mikey or out? Out of screen Mikey?
Either 1. You got me hooked on these
monster boys pretty hard. But I guess on screen Mikey's
definitely the jammers. But I'm not going to lie, I do
like the monster boys probably a little bit more.
I sometimes mix them together so I can kind of get the best of
both worlds. I can get a caffeinated bursty
boy. I would be on.
I would be on board. Let me let me ask you this.
I'm not sponsored by Monster, but have you tried the Blue
Hawaiian 0? No, no, I should try that. 00
sugar Blue Hawaiian that has replaced the white monster.
For me, that's all I drink is the Blue Hawaiian.
OK, I'll have to try it out. I'll have to try it out.
It's a dangerous It's a dangerous flavor, my friend, it.
It's a terrible habit and I wish I I didn't love them so much.
But yeah, our hearts are Yeah, my blood pressure is always
high. Yeah, yeah, my blood pressure is
the Nakatomi Tower. It's ridiculous all.
Right, my dentist told me my blood pressure was high.
Oh yeah, man, bad enough I got to hear that at the.
Doctor, that's pretty fucking good.
Jesus. Yeah.
You broke Megan. She's over there dying.
All right. Now, this one is a deep cut for
people who have been watching your content for a while.
So if they haven't watched your content, there is a specific
episode they're going to have to be referred to.
And you're going to have to set the stage for this.
But you got to choose between the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
or the tattooed alien fighters from Beverly Hills.
Tattooed alien fighters from Beverly Hills every time.
I love their their slinky little bondage outfits.
The they have better effects. I swear they have better effects
than Power Rangers and the characters.
All the characters on the show, just like real people hate each
other. Like kids don't get along if you
watch. Like they're arguing with each
other all the time because one's like a preppy chick and the
other one's a nerd. And he's like, you don't
understand. You guys treat me like shit, but
he don't say shit. But right, you know, like they
fight all the time. And I'm like, that's how people
really are. And then they got to team up and
save the day. Their villains were pretty bad I
will say that, but they also had but like instead of Zordon a
weird white floaty head that didn't even mouth what he was
saying, they had a BLOB that would blink like a a prosthetic
effect and and it was voiced by Ortho from Beetlejuice which
made it even cooler. Nice.
It was an actor's name, but yeah.
Otho, yeah, I was to say ortho. That's he man.
I'm thinking of Orco. Orco.
Yeah, Orco or ortho or whatever. How pronounced orthodontist?
These fans are going to be throwing shit at me.
All right, I got one last one for you.
Oh, I'm going to get a puff of smoke.
For this one all right, but so yeah, going back to that
tattooed alien fighters from Beverly Hills real quick.
Let me just that was that lasted what, one season?
I know you covered it in your episode.
Sorry, I didn't hear anything you said.
I was. I was getting all pumped up for
this next, this next clip. One last one, one last.
One all right workout come. One for the audience.
OK, OK, you know you can edit this part out.
I never will. It stays.
It's a visual gag 100%. So if you're listening to.
This. I'm ready.
I'm ready.
If you're listening to this audio wise, you're really
missing out. You need to watch the video
because you just missed what was happening.
But I I did want to ask just a deeper question about that
tattooed alien fighters from Beverly Hills that did last only
one season. Yeah.
Yeah, just one season. Which is 8 episodes or 9
episodes. I think it was on USA or TBS.
Like just in the afternoon, we'd watch you right after school.
Nice. Well, we'd skipped school kind
of early and watched cartoons, Duck tales and all that.
Stuff, you know, duck out for last period, have your smoke on
the way home, you know? Yeah, we were smoking something
for sure. Fucking rebel over here.
I was smoking ham. All right, I got one last one
for you. I I know the answer.
I think it's controversial for certain fan bases.
So I got to ask you, Star Trek, Star Wars.
Oh, Star Trek 100%. Like Star Wars, OK, there's
three great Star Wars movies and then that's it.
And then? Then they just kept going.
And everyone remembers the episode 1-2 and three fondly
because they were like children when it came out.
I was an adult, so I don't remember it fondly.
I, I, I remember the pain of watching those and like, well,
maybe the next one will be good. Maybe the next one will be good.
It never got good and then Disney Plus got a hold of it and
made it even worse. Except for The Mandalorian,
which I will stand by season 1 and 200%.
See, that's why I saved this one for last, because I feel like
those two fan bases, what I'm trying to say, they, they will
fight, they get angry if you have anything negative to say.
And I, I knew personally, because I know you, that you're
a Star Trek guy and you have a lot of Star Trek stuff.
You, you, you are a big Trekkie. So, but what makes Trek better
than wars in your opinion? What, what?
What did you gravitate towards? I guess it's the hopeful future,
which I probably isn't very realistic, but to have something
better than who you are and the the sense of what Like they had
all these morality plays where instead of telling you the
answer to the episode, it would leave it up to you.
What were they in the right when they did that or or what they
did? Was it wrong?
They never the best episodes of Trek don't just lecture you.
They're they they leave it to you.
Like was that right for the captain to split?
All right, like these two guys get in this and the transport
and they become one person and at the end the captain has to
separate them. But that one person was a new
entity with a new personality, a new soul.
He was a new character and she forced the decision to separate
him, which is terrible. He's a he's a, a living being.
The other two guys, in my opinion, died when that
happened. And she chose the other two
people that she knew and was friendly with over this new life
form. And I love that they leave it up
to you. Like was, is what she did a good
thing? Yeah, they didn't hit you with
the the sitcom like wrap up. Yeah, yeah.
So I like that about Trek. All right.
For those two VIX fans out there.
Nice man. Well, yeah, that's the end of my
hot takes with Mr. VHS, Mikey. So before we wrap this up for
the uninitiated that don't know where to find you, I, I got to
have you hit him with all the all the deets, as it were, for
the people that are listening, watching, whatever.
If you dig this crazy man and you need more, there is a ton
more out there. So yeah, hit him with it.
Well, I'm on about every platform that'll let me sign up.
I'm always VHS Mikey. Sometimes it's spelled with some
wacky thing because some kid took the name and his school was
called VHS or something. And don't message that kid, but
message me. I will answer you.
I need friends, but I'm on every platform in the world.
I I mostly post on YouTube and and Instagram and a little
TikTok these days. So yeah, come hang out with me.
We'll talk about some VHSS. And I do actually love chatting
with all of you, so don't hesitate to slide in my DMSDMS.
Open DMS, Open. You do it, you do it.
He wants it. He needs it.
But. We need some techie music going
on. I'll.
Pipe in some, I still believe saxophone up in here.
I'm sad that my sound effects don't show up on your on your
show. I wish they did.
We need to just, we, we just need one big studio all tied
together. And that'd be great.
Yes, but I suppose guys, on that note, I should probably get
going because after all, there's a lot of movies out there and
somebody's got to watch them, so why not me, right, Mikey?
Yeah, 100%. Please.
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