1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,440 Well, you ain't coming too. Deep. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,560 I think I'm dying here. Man the haunted. 3 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:19,220 Mansions it for us, the Creek they lead us to the places from 4 00:00:19,340 --> 00:00:23,700 which we dare not be. Journey through fear in the 5 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:27,180 realm of the night. In every word they speak. 6 00:00:27,260 --> 00:00:32,020 A haunted night was right. Welcome to the horror show The 7 00:00:32,020 --> 00:00:37,800 Deep Blood Podcast. When nightmares come out of 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,600 life. Ready to take them? 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,560 Oh, tune into the chilling delight on the airwaves of the 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,800 night. Let the darkness go. 11 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:05,200 Let the darkness go. Oh. 12 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,200 Yeah, is that time again for another weekly episode of the 13 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,120 Deep Cut Podcast with your host, Rotten Rodger DeMarco. 14 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,440 And today I'm doing something crazy. 15 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,880 I am blown away to be sitting here with the man, the myth, the 16 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,280 legend, director, actor, effects artist, Pretty much everything 17 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,800 you can do, you do do the the one and only Addison Bennick. 18 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,120 Yeah, you got my last name right too. 19 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Yeah, man, I. Know I love people do not people 20 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,920 do. For the uninitiated who auto 21 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,800 download or whatever, whatever, most of the folks that listen to 22 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,600 the Deep Cut podcast are kind of used to a structure, a format of 23 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,160 covering a specific film. And we're branching out and 24 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,840 we're bringing on actors, directors. 25 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,400 And you were at the top of the list, dude. 26 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:07,280 Because for the people that don't know, I mean, you're Jack 27 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,680 of all trades. You do so many things and I felt 28 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,440 like I needed to bring you on and have our audience be 29 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,400 introduced to you. So real quick, I'll just have 30 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,240 you introduce who you are officially, what you do, and 31 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,760 then I'm going to jump into a bunch of crazy ass questions for 32 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,560 you. So let your rant ramble. 33 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:36,080 OK, well I am Addison Bennett and I am the Co creator Co 34 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,360 director of the Psycho Ape series with Greg Deleto. 35 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:43,360 But I've also done for about 10 years. 36 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,160 I did a show called Movies to watch on a rainy afternoon on 37 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,120 YouTube, which was kind of like a bite sized Mystery Science 38 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Theater 3000 slash Rifftrax where I would review and riff on 39 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,720 cheesy B movies. You know, these episodes would 40 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,480 go anywhere between like 10 to 15 minutes, sometimes 20 41 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,880 depending on the movie, how many jokes we came up with. 42 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,680 And it was kind of like, you know, just best of the worst 43 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,040 clips from these cheesy movies with my own spherical commentary 44 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,200 sprinkled throughout these clips edited together in kind of a 45 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,400 review format. Yeah. 133 episodes of those. 46 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,760 And I have been taking a much needed break. 47 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,160 You know, I haven't done one since, like, March. 48 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,440 I did Saint Patrick's Day episode. 49 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,480 Like, Leprechaun in the Hood was my last one. 50 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,080 That was about 3 years ago, I think two or three years ago. 51 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,400 And I don't know, I just 133 episodes of anything. 52 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,520 You know, that's a lie. You know, I've, I've, I've said 53 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,280 what I needed to say and I'm just taking a break. 54 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,520 I also used to work with Troma. I did 2 episodes of a a full 55 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,400 length movie ripping show called True Masterpiece Theater. 56 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,080 The first movie was The Battle of Love's Return and the second 57 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,400 one was Poultrygeist. Lloyd Kaufman hand selected 58 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,000 those films for us to riff on. We built puppets, rented out a 59 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,600 movie theater, filmed ourselves in front of a green screen so 60 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,360 you see our silhouettes at the bottom. 61 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,400 And we had pre written scripts from watching the films 62 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,480 repeatedly. And so as the movie played out, 63 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,160 we would just recite the jokes from the scripts that we had in 64 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,440 our hands and we would, you know, notate the time codes so 65 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,440 that we were synced up properly and said the jokes at the right 66 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,960 time. But it who knows. 67 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,000 And my other project Magnum Opus, which is a Jackass 68 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 inspired feature. It's so. 69 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Good. Thank. 70 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,960 You so good. I'm really proud of that one. 71 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,880 That's one of my favorites. That was an experiment from a 72 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:36,280 few years ago. I took gosh, 1520, I don't even 73 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:39,800 know how many mini DV tapes. And I digitized them for the 74 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,240 first time since like high school, You know, these tapes 75 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,880 were old. They're 15 years old, bordering 76 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,640 20 at this point. I graduated high school in 2007. 77 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,400 So all these mini DV tapes, these high 8 tapes, VHS tapes, 78 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,640 digitized them for the first time. 79 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,400 And I took the footage and I extracted all of the stunts, 80 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,000 pranks, skits, and I laid all these clips out in chronological 81 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,040 order. So you see me and my friends 82 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,840 grow older in this hour long film. 83 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:16,560 We're 12151617182021222528. And then the footage quality 84 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,120 gets better as the movie plays out too. 85 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,320 So you start with crappy VHS, you go to high 8 mini DV digital 86 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,080 1080P and it is essentially like. 87 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,480 I wish that I had come up with this tagline, but this is from a 88 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,680 review. Someone called it Boyhood meets 89 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Jackass. Oh my God. 90 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,120 What it is? Yeah, that's that nails it. 91 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,200 I want to say this about Magnum Opus, dude. 92 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:44,040 Oddly, surprisingly, like, emotional, like hits, you know? 93 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,360 I wasn't expecting that, but I really like that that's kind of 94 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,760 what happened because again, it is a time capsule of my teen 95 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,600 years and my early 20s with my core group of friends. 96 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,520 Some of those people have passed away, some of them moved away. 97 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,080 So I'm not as close with those people. 98 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,920 But whenever I get to watch that movie in a theater with an 99 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,120 audience, it's like I'm reliving my childhood. 100 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,400 I'm reliving my favorite moments of my life. 101 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,320 And you know, it's emotional for me too. 102 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 And the fact that people can connect to it because they, you 103 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,240 know, they they've grown out of their friend groups. 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,680 You know, people have, you know, had children of their own, 105 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,760 they've gotten married or they've moved on or just 106 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,440 sometimes just grow apart from someone that even though you've 107 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,760 known them for 20 years, you know, you're not in the same 108 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,320 place as you were 20 years ago. And you're just different 109 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,720 people. So it's just, it's it's nice to 110 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,560 sort of remember as a time capsule, you know, what that 111 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,120 friendship was like. It's a reminder for me every 112 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,920 time I watch it. Like, yeah, I'm not as close 113 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,840 with that guy anymore, or I'm not, you know, that guy has 114 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,360 passed away. But I always have these memories 115 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,880 in a movie and it's also a serves as entertainment for 116 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,280 others. Yeah, and I can totally relate 117 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:55,720 to that because I used to do a ton of backyard wrestling with 118 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,600 all of my buddies. And since then I've had buddies 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,360 that have moved away or passed away. 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,400 And like I said, when I was watching Magnum Opus, I'm not 121 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,560 ashamed to admit like, you know, you cry because you're like, 122 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:15,520 it's, it's crazy to have like to watch someone grow and, and go 123 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,680 from a little kid to an adult. And it's like you said, with all 124 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,240 of the relationships, like, well, so and so will like 125 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,120 they'll get married or you know, or they'll move away or 126 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,200 whatever. But you have all these little 127 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,840 snippets these these sections of time where not like where you 128 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,200 can tie it to like, I remember after the camera was done, like 129 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,560 we went and had Dairy Queen or we went and did this or like, 130 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,400 you know, so you every time you watch that skit that you did or 131 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,640 whatever, you just get this like you're in the DeLorean. 132 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,240 You get to go back in time and be like, man, and and relive 133 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,960 what it was like before life got in the way. 134 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,880 And it's awesome, dude. Like I'm tearing up even like 135 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,240 thinking about it. So yeah, for anybody who doesn't 136 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,000 know about Magnum Opus, there will be a link in the 137 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,360 description, obviously. On YouTube, it's free on 138 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,200 YouTube, but then if you buy the Blu-ray, there's 37 more minutes 139 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,480 of deleted material because I only really wanted it to be 140 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,840 like, you know, it's 63 minutes, but I still after watching with 141 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,600 audiences, I feel like maybe it's a smidge too long. 142 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,840 I feel like maybe 60 to 61 would have been more appropriate just 143 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,160 to have the audience for an hour. 144 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,720 But there's still, there's, there's 37 unused minutes on the 145 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,960 Blu-ray, tons of deleted scenes. You know, it's just stuff that I 146 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,360 thought like funny, but maybe not as funny as some of the 147 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,600 clips I ended up using. But I didn't just not use the 148 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,520 material. So it's on the Blu-ray, you 149 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:46,760 know. So if you buy the Blu-ray, 150 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,560 there's there's even more. Material, which you should yeah, 151 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:54,360 watch it for free, then buy it to support you know, our 152 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,880 audience is big. They're they're massive physical 153 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,120 media people that watch our channel build video stores in 154 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,000 their houses. So buy the buy the damn Blu-ray. 155 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,200 Yeah. And, you know, obviously my 156 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,680 intention was never anything more than like, oh, I'll sell 157 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:11,360 maybe 100 copies or something, maybe even less, like 50. 158 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,400 And I'm about 200 sales in. And, you know, I sell it at 159 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,040 conventions and I sell it on eBay, and it's got like 1000 160 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,800 views online. Yes, but it's the people who 161 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,600 have gotten the film 2 that I'm really particularly proud of 162 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,120 because I mean, there's skits in Magnum Opus that are heavily 163 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,040 inspired not just by Jackass, but just early MTV, you know, 164 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,160 like early 2000s MTV, you know, Tom Green and stuff. 165 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,160 There are there are clear Tom Green inspired skits in the 166 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,920 movie. And two years ago I went to a 167 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,080 Tom Green stand up comedy show and after the show I was waiting 168 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,320 outside with a friend of mine and we gave him copies of the 169 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,080 movie. So Tom Green has in his 170 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,200 possession, I don't know if he ever watched it, but he has in 171 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,640 his possession copies of both Psycho Ape 1 and Mcnamocus. 172 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,920 So he, he and he was filming us too, like he was filming the 173 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,880 whole interaction and he put that entire 17 minute long 174 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:06,960 conversation, you know, on YouTube uncut. 175 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,400 Oh, that's on his YouTube channel. 176 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Just have to scroll back two years. 177 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:16,720 Hell yeah. And also in 2024, I flew out to 178 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,320 California because Zack Ass, who was the one of the newest cast 179 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,320 members in Jackass Forever, he's a fan of my work as well. 180 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,800 He's he's more of a fan of Psycho Ape. 181 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,560 But I was able to go on his podcast in his podcast studio in 182 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:33,120 Los Angeles and we discussed Psycho Ape and Magnum Opus and I 183 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,760 gave him copies of my film as well. 184 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,400 And then the very next day I went to a screening of Jackass 185 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,480 the movie, like a 20th anniversary screening. 186 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:44,320 And I met with Jeff Tremaine, you know, a camera operator, 187 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,160 Rick Hasik. And I got to hang out with Jeff 188 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,440 Tremaine back at his studio office in English, Burbank. 189 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,760 And we just, you know, for three hours. 190 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,640 I got to hang out with, you know, the director of the 191 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,600 Jackass Ranch. That's. 192 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,840 So crazy bucket list business going on. 193 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Right now I gave him copies of all my movies. 194 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,520 Too, Yeah. So, you know, doing all this and 195 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,480 and, you know, never stopping, never giving up, you know, I've 196 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,160 been, I've been able to, you know, give copies of my films to 197 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,280 my son of my heroes, Tom Green, Jeff Tremaine. 198 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,080 You know, it's just that's sort of the thing that I was not 199 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,680 expecting, but has been a, you know, added and more than 200 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,000 welcomed bonus. Yeah, that's the cherry on the 201 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,160 top for sure. Yeah, that's so cool. 202 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,040 So, so kind of tying into Magnum, tying into Magnum Opus. 203 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,240 I kind of want to the first question that I like to ask 204 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,800 people is, you know, at what age were you when you were kind of 205 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,440 bitten by like the creative bug, You know, when, when was the 206 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,120 first time? And it doesn't have to be 207 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,560 filmmaking, but like, what was your first foray? 208 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:55,880 Were you like into, you know, doing plays for school or or 209 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,360 whatever? Like what was what was the jump 210 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,640 off point for you where you're like, man, I love creating. 211 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,680 I love this, like this avenue of expression. 212 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,680 Well, I definitely have always loved movies. 213 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,040 You know, my dad, he had Avhs camcorder when I was a kid and 214 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,760 he was always filming home movies and stuff. 215 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,600 So of course, you know, when you're a little kid and you have 216 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,000 this device that can capture things, you know, either mundane 217 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,320 or funny things, and then you learn how to like, you know, 218 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,480 stack 2 VCRS on top of each other, edit little mini movies 219 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,480 with your friends. It just kind of took off from 220 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,680 there. You know, like I was always 221 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:33,720 renting movies. I was always watching movies and 222 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,320 I was always inspired to just sort of want to create my own 223 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,080 content. And I would, you know, record 224 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,640 things in my backyard with my friends and later edit these 225 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,360 mini movies together with two, stack the VHS or VHBCRS with, 226 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,800 you know, you put the blank VHS in one and you have the master 227 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,320 tape on the other. And you just hit, you know, stop 228 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,840 and record and stop and record. And you can figure out in an 229 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,840 afternoon how to edit a little, like, mini thing. 230 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,320 And so that's been a thing since I was like, you know, 7-8, nine 231 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,360 years old, you know, like, having that video camera. 232 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,720 I mean, nice. Yeah. 233 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,000 The very first clip of Magnum Opus is my friend Jonathan and I 234 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,360 at our elementary school jumping off of play structures and, you 235 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,440 know, jungle gym and monkey bars and all that stuff. 236 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:23,600 And that is from footage from that like home VHS camcorder 237 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,920 that my dad used to like film, you know, trips to the zoo or 238 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Christmas morning and stuff. And then he knew what I was 239 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,720 using that camera for at the time. 240 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,880 I'm sure he would have rung my neck. 241 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,800 But if if he was still around today, because he passed away 242 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,800 long before I was ever really like making movies, like even 243 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,600 before I had just been accepted to film school. 244 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,120 But you know, if he was still around today, I think he, he, it 245 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,880 blow his mind that like, you know, these little movies, 246 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,520 these, you know, these stunts and clips and things and you 247 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,000 know, things that he would have been like, what the hell are you 248 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,320 doing with my camera? It's a very irresponsible, you 249 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,200 know, don't tell your mom. But now these movies have played 250 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,480 theatrically with Jackass films like Magnum Opus has played with 251 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,800 Jackass the movie Jackass #2 and Jackass 3D in California with 252 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,000 Rick Kosik and another camera operator in attendance. 253 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:19,280 So, you know, literally, like, I don't know, that's just it, it's 254 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,080 been this long, long trajectory, you know, and I just kind of 255 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,760 stuck through it and just year after year after year, just 256 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,240 continuing to film stuff and hone my editing skills because I 257 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,080 do, except for Psycho Wave, I, I pretty much edit everything 258 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,560 else. Like for Masterpiece Theatre, I 259 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,560 personally edited all 133 episodes of movies to watch in 260 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,120 the rainy afternoon. My friend and I, we kind of took 261 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,480 turns editing chunks of Magnum Opus just because there was so 262 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,600 much material to sift through. Yeah, but the majority of the 263 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,640 stuff that I make, I edit, except for Cycle Way One and 264 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:55,760 two. That's my partner, Greg. 265 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,080 I'll tell you this man, if I ever film another feature, I'm 266 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,480 paying someone to edit. That was the longest year of my 267 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,120 wife and I's life. We spent a year editing and I 268 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,840 was like. It's a process. 269 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,680 You have to really like it, you know, you have to really want to 270 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,520 sit at a computer for, you know, the longest. 271 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,680 I think I ever did like a quick like I just when I was editing 272 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,720 movies to watch in a rainy afternoon when I first started, 273 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:32,360 it would take like 14 days, one after the next to watch a cheesy 274 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,400 bad movie while writing jokes with the time code on the 275 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,680 television. You know, ripping the file from 276 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,760 the DVD, cutting up the movie according to the time codes that 277 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,280 I wrote down just so that I could get those clips kind of 278 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,880 corralled together on my timeline and delete the rest of 279 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,480 the footage that I didn't was never going to use. 280 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:58,280 Recall all the jokes, edit the audio to the movie and you know, 281 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,160 calibrate the audio so that it sounds natural and not like 282 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,960 cheating. Like no, because the way that I 283 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,000 always saw like riffing on a movie is don't put your joke on 284 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,000 top of a dialogue because then it's conflicting dialogue. 285 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,840 Wait for a moment or a gap in time and then throw your joke in 286 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,400 there. But this whole process of like 287 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,200 editing, plus I filmed like host segments, you know, mimicking 288 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,440 things or spoofing scenes from these movies. 289 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,200 The whole process would used to take two weeks and then over the 290 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,320 course of ten years, I shrunk it down to six days. 291 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,920 So I did the South Park thing where I could, I was able to 292 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,120 turn an episode around in six days if I worked on it like in 293 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,080 chunks every single day. But there was one time where I 294 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,480 didn't have much time or yeah, but I just I wanted to get the 295 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,040 episode done because of my like 10th or 11th anniversary of the 296 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,680 show was coming up. And I was like, gosh, I have, I 297 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,680 only have really like 5 or 6 days to really finish this 298 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,640 episode. So I spent like 13 hours just 299 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,920 editing and that that that was too much, that that was sort of 300 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,040 like the end of the line where I was like, you know what? 301 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,079 I don't know if this is something I really want to be 302 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:10,839 doing all the time anymore. I think I need a break. 303 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,760 Yeah. So I only did maybe like two or 304 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,720 three more episodes after that 10th or 11th anniversary 305 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,880 special. And then I've just been. 306 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,119 I just, I've been taking a break ever since, you know, just 307 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,359 because it's a lot of work. It seriously is to sift through 308 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,680 a cheesy movie and record all these jokes because, you know, I 309 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,040 watch it with friends, these movies. 310 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,120 I watch these movies with buddies and collectively, I 311 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:35,640 mean, we come up with pages and pages and pages of riffs and 312 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,920 jokes and then those handwritten jokes. 313 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,040 It's scaled down to like, well, you know, I don't need this one 314 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,240 or that one's just arbitrary or that might be a funny comment, 315 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,120 but I don't really need to use that clip because it doesn't 316 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:50,400 really tell the story of the scene because that's kind of 317 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,040 what I look for in these cheesy movies. 318 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Like, you know, yeah, a cheesy clip with a funny joke is funny, 319 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,400 but there's no context in it. You. 320 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,600 Got to like the get to create like the abridged version of the 321 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,240 movie. Yeah, yeah. 322 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,640 It's it's an abridged version of the movie and then an abridged 323 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,320 version of the scene itself. So it's like, well, there's an 324 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,400 important dialogue in this scene to sort of that moves the story 325 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,000 along. So let's spoof or let's let's 326 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,440 riff on this scene specifically because then it'll help later 327 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,560 when you don't have context for some of these other scenes. 328 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,240 Exactly, Yeah. And so it became a whole to do. 329 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,240 It became a whole thing of like, figuring it out because like, 330 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,360 sometimes, because what I wanted to illustrate with these 331 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:36,000 episodes was, you know, sometimes you can just like, 332 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,040 watch this and you get a gist of the movie in 15 or 20 minutes. 333 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,920 And you don't have to sit there and watch the whole thing, 334 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,080 right? Plus, I make it funnier and more 335 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,000 fun for the audience with hopefully these funny jokes. 336 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:49,600 Yeah, and it's, it's hilarious, dude. 337 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,400 It's, it's good stuff. But I, you know how you're 338 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,560 saying like sometimes, you know, you just need a break and you 339 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,800 got to step away. I think that's important because 340 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,680 when, when you wear as many hats as indie folks do, because a lot 341 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,800 of people don't realize, like, like you said, you're writing 342 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,920 it, you're directing it, you're editing it, you're, you're doing 343 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,480 all of this stuff. It's not like you have a massive 344 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,120 team where you can delegate tasks. 345 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:20,480 So but it's definitely important to be like, I need a year, I 346 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,920 need X amount of time, I need to step away, I need to focus on 347 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,200 something else because otherwise you just burn out. 348 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,080 And then it's like it becomes. Plenty of that too. 349 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,880 Plenty plenty times just burn out of just like I overexert 350 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,440 myself, you know? Seriously, again, in, you know, 351 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,680 10 years, I made 133 episodes of a movie riffing show, you know, 352 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:47,880 it's 1520 minutes each and turning a project around in six 353 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,360 days and then the very next week doing it all over again like I 354 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:55,080 was. I was so fast at some of these 355 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,600 that I was doing one a week for a while. 356 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,920 And that's why there's so damn many episodes. 357 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,520 Like in 2018, I got it down to a science. 358 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,400 And so every week, every like Tuesday, I had a new one. 359 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,440 And even my coworkers when I used to work at Walgreens, they 360 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,040 were just like, hey man, I can't keep up with your show anymore. 361 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,720 I'm sorry. I like your show and I think 362 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,240 it's really funny, but I'm like 3 episodes behind. 363 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,400 You got to slow down. And I was like, I can't slow 364 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,920 down now. Like now that I figured out how 365 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,560 to do these in six days, like now I've got the rhythm. 366 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,800 And this is my schedule, yeah, right. 367 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,560 So I must. I got to go like, this is my 368 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,320 time, you know? So now that I've taken like 2-3 369 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,920 years off, I can sort of sit back and reflect and be like, 370 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:43,080 hey, that was a lot of work. It still exists just because 371 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,880 some of these episodes are now bordering on like 10 years old 372 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,800 now. They still. 373 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,760 Exist. Yeah, they're a. 374 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,520 Little better. I, I riffed that movie. 375 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,880 That episode is there. You know, maybe I'd be a better 376 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,880 writer now or a better, a funnier joke writer now or a 377 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,040 better editor now. But it doesn't matter. 378 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,960 You know, there's 133 episodes to choose. 379 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,760 From right it's. It's all in the can. 380 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,680 Like it's, it's, you know, it's a part of your creative history. 381 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:11,560 It's like, yeah, yeah, this is your, your or your filmography 382 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,200 essentially. You know, like, yeah, these 383 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,880 things, I've done them. Now it's time to move on and 384 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,520 and, you know, go somewhere else. 385 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,720 It's like having a ginormous like body of work on it. 386 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,920 And then it's not just movies to watch in a rainy afternoon. 387 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,920 There's two episodes of your Masterpiece Theater and then 388 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,720 there's Magnum Opus and then there's two Psycho Waves. 389 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,640 So there's just like a ton of stuff out there that I've worked 390 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 on in some capacity, whether it's the writer or director, you 391 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,120 know, I star in movies to watch and you know, with Psycho Ape 392 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,800 and I have little cameos, but I was behind the scenes and wrote 393 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,440 everything. And then, you know, Greg cut and 394 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,480 shot those movies, but I was still there. 395 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,760 I was still present and he would send me rough cuts and we would 396 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,880 approve them together. So I'm and I'm involved heavily 397 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,960 in every single aspect of every single thing I've ever done. 398 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Yeah, when, when you're doing all of these things, has there 399 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,000 ever been, Because I know there has for me, I deal with it a 400 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000 lot. Has there ever been like a 401 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,000 moment where you're kind of struck with like imposter 402 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,040 syndrome and you're like, you know, what am I doing? 403 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,720 And then like, if that's happened, like how do you like 404 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,440 forge through it instead of just kind of like giving in to the 405 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,960 voice, so to speak, you know what I'm saying? 406 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,960 Like and being like, well, I guess I'm, I am an imposter and 407 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,520 I'm done or whatever. Like how do you push through and 408 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,280 be like next project? I have things to do like. 409 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,680 I mean, I basically let people speak for me, you know what I 410 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,880 mean? Like when I go to conventions 411 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,760 and stuff and people are excited for whatever new Blu-ray I have 412 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,520 at my table or someone wants a signature or something, I 413 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,960 obliged. But I just always kind of feel 414 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,640 like, why do you want this? But that's cool, that's fine. 415 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,440 You know, they're there, they want to collect signatures and 416 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,920 they like, you know, they like all my stuff. 417 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,920 Like I go to certain conventions, like there's Cinema 418 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,040 Wasteland in Strongsville. OH, and I have a number of 419 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,080 people who will pretty much buy anything new that's on my table. 420 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,680 And it's like, that's really neat. 421 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,680 You know, I, I just, you know, I feel, you know, humbled and 422 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840 lucky that, you know, there's, I've, I've reached certain 423 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,000 audience members that really like the stuff that I do right. 424 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,640 And I, I just say like, don't think about it too much. 425 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,680 And that's even hard for me to say because I'm always in my own 426 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,080 head. But you know, it's just sort of 427 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,760 a let the audience speak for you, you know, again, you know, 428 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,720 I I've traveled a lot, a lot of places that I've been to for 429 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,440 screenings of Psycho Ape or Magnum Opus or from Masterpiece 430 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Theater. A lot of those things were 431 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,760 invites. So I, I don't feel imposter 432 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,720 syndrome when I'm being invited. If I were to like go somewhere 433 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,000 and expect like layout the red carpet for me, like I would 434 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,440 never do that. But I mean that that would be 435 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,240 the wrong approach. But if someone is like, hey, you 436 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,160 know, we're had, we want to have this. 437 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,760 Like, the reason I met Bill Whedon for Psycho Ape in the 1st 438 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,680 place was in 2019 at your Masterpiece Theatre, got booked 439 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,920 to play in a double feature with Sergeant Kabuki Man in New York 440 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,520 City. So I flew out to New York. 441 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,480 And the promoter who was putting on the event, they put me up in 442 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,680 a hotel with Bill. And so we were like, roommates 443 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,200 in this, you know, swanky New York City hotel. 444 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,840 And we both attended this double feature of from Ashby's Theater 445 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,200 and, sorry, Boogeyman. And it was, you know, one of the 446 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,280 first times anybody had ever treated me like that, where it 447 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,520 was just like an all, you know, like a rock star. 448 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,400 Yeah. And but it did. 449 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,040 I didn't let it go do it in my head, you know. 450 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,360 So don't let things go to your head first of all. 451 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,120 But second, you know, enjoy the ride even if you aren't quite 452 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,440 feeling. Maybe you deserve it because 453 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,480 somebody thinks that you do, you know? 454 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,760 That's, that's really good advice, man. 455 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,120 That's, it's, it's a very tough thing. 456 00:24:55,120 --> 00:25:00,760 You know, when, when you are working on something and you're 457 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,520 just like you're, you're trying to, to get out there and, and 458 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,000 get people to notice you. And you know, sometimes it takes 459 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,440 it because you're doing it by yourself. 460 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,920 So it takes longer than like if you were like with a studio or 461 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,800 whatever. So it can really, it can really 462 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,360 take its toll on you. Oh yeah, I mean, Psycho Ape One 463 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,800 took a year and a half to make because of the pandemic. 464 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,160 We started shooting in 2019, summer of 2019, and then 465 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,560 everything shut down. You know, obviously early to mid 466 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,760 2020 and then we didn't really wrap the movie until August of 467 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,200 2020. Like those were just the final 468 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,400 like insert shots or just things that like we just, you know, 469 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,520 it's the final pieces that are the most boring things to film. 470 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760 You know, a shot of bloody hands, a bloody banana hitting 471 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,640 the ground, all the boring crap that you forgot to get when you 472 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,200 were actually in the middle of shooting. 473 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,680 So once we got those final clips and everything again, we started 474 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:04,000 in like March of 2019, didn't finish until August of 2020 475 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,920 because the pandemic and we were ready to kick that fucker to the 476 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,080 curb and just I'm done with psycho way, dude, I'm done on 477 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,720 this. I'm done watching rough cuts. 478 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,680 I'm done shooting insert shots. I am done. 479 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:19,200 And when you're, when you get to that point, it is kind of easier 480 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,400 to like detach yourself from the movie and be like, this is the 481 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,280 public's problem now. I'll promote the hell out of it. 482 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,080 You know, I'll do what I can to sell copies at conventions and 483 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,720 I'll, I'll send it around, you know, I'll send it to whenever I 484 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,200 get a new movie made, I, I submit it to online reviewers, 485 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,640 you know, like I'll just send it around and collect reviews. 486 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,240 And you know, I'm a self-taught promoter where the best way to 487 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,760 do it is, you know, back in even just a couple of years ago, like 488 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,160 20/17/2018, you know, IMDb was like the place to go for movies. 489 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,680 Right now we have Letterboxed and Letterbox is kind of a 490 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,200 miracle for indie film makers because people love Letterboxed 491 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,680 and indie people watch indie movies on Letterboxed. 492 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,040 So what I do now is I'll go to Letterbox and I'll look for my 493 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,120 films on there. I'll take screenshots and I'll 494 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,280 post those screenshots because again, they're not fabricated. 495 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,800 These are complete strangers on the Internet who found Psycho 496 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Wave or Magnum Opus on YouTube or To Be or somewhere Night 497 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Flight Plus. And I just post the screenshots. 498 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:27,840 And so the reviews, you know, speak for themselves, even the 499 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,720 bad ones. You know, that's one of the 500 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,200 things too is, you know, don't take yourself so seriously. 501 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,680 Don't be like really be consistical or conceited or you 502 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320 know, we're all working on movies that are like $10,000 or 503 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,880 less or if you're lucky enough, you know, maybe at most $30,000. 504 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,400 I don't really know. That's still low budget. 505 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,080 That's still really low budget. So if someone doesn't like your 506 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,440 movie, don't take it personally. Maybe they're just the movie 507 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,440 wasn't for you or they have possibly high standards or 508 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,320 something. I mean, my advice is to try to 509 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,240 make a comedy anyway and make fun of yourself. 510 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,840 And I know that's not everybody's cup of tea. 511 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,040 That's mine. You know, it's sort of a self 512 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,520 satirical jab and Ed Wood and Troma style filmmaker. 513 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000 That's just like my style and things I like. 514 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,880 But you know, some of the one star or zero star reviews that 515 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080 we've gotten for Psycho Ape are almost funnier and better than 516 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080 the four-star or five star. We live for the one star 517 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480 reviews. You know, at 3B Video, we 518 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,800 literally when we cover a movie that is one of our segments 519 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,160 where we pull up one of the funniest, like whatever movie 520 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,560 we're covering and pull up one hilarious Amazon one star 521 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,240 review. And you know, like you said, 522 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,240 they are they're they're better than the I love this movie so 523 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,400 much. You know they're so. 524 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,120 Awesome. I mean it's. 525 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,760 Flattering to have a five star review sure, but when someone is 526 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,960 like it took me 3 days to watch an hour long film and it's like 527 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,520 well nobody told you you had to finish. 528 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,480 One of our favorites is that's what started it is my Co host 529 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,880 Evil was looking up reviews for Nightmare on Elm Street because 530 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560 he that's his franchise and there was a review A1 star 531 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,040 review that was like somebody please tell me why I have to pay 532 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,120 for a movie that was made in 19 in 84 and we laughed so hard we 533 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,800 cried and. I do movies just become free 534 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,720 because they're 40 years old. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but it 535 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,720 killed us and then it just. And we were like, you know what, 536 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,080 That's part of our thing now because we're going to spotlight 537 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,440 someone star reviews, but Tape Head is not without one star 538 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,600 reviews as well. So I. 539 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080 Mean, you know, I've gotten one star reviews across the board, 540 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,200 like I've gotten one star reviews for Psycho 82 from 541 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,280 people who liked the first one, but you know the second the 542 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,160 sequel was not what they were expecting. 543 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,880 That's another thing too, is I would recommend not making the 544 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,280 movie that you want. Don't make the movie that you 545 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,240 think people want. Just make the movie that you 546 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,320 want to make. And if it isn't received well, 547 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,760 then that's on the audience. You know, at least you got to 548 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,880 make the thing that you wanted to make that you're proud of 549 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,840 because Psycho Whip 2 is a lot different than Psycho Whip One. 550 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,760 But that was by design because again, Psycho Whip 1 is a parody 551 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,960 of slasher movies and gorilla films. 552 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,920 And when we were done with the first one, I was done, done. 553 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,240 I did not want to do Psycho Whip Two. 554 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,240 I was done. I was like, dude, we spent a 555 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520 year and a half fucking around, you know, killing people with 556 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,880 bananas, just 30 kills in the first movie or more, you know, 557 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,320 and so it was like, how many more times, how many more banana 558 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,720 related deaths can we come up with? 559 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,960 I'm I'm over it. So, you know, once we started 560 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640 selling a lot of copies and the fan base kind of grew a little 561 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,200 bit, I was like, well, OK, they won't stop asking us about 562 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,320 psycho at 2 and what, what would that even look like? 563 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,040 Because I don't want to do the same movie again. 564 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,000 I can seriously, I just, I don't we did that already the first 565 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,600 time. So we not on purpose, but we 566 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,680 kind of did a Gremlins 2 approach where Gremlins 2 is Joe 567 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,880 Dante. He was given a blank check by 568 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Warner Brothers to do whatever the hell he wanted. 569 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,360 So what did he do? He made a live action Looney 570 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,680 Tunes cartoon starring Gremlins and Gremlins 2 is a parody of 571 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,520 Gremlins. One in every in every. 572 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680 Avenue. All of that is in the actual 573 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,520 movie. I like Gremlins 2 more than. 574 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,360 Gremlins, you gotta. I'm with you on that dude 100%. 575 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,720 But that wasn't what we didn't go into Psycho Wave 2 with that 576 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,960 mindset. That's just kind of what 577 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,640 happened because the fan base for Psycho Wave 1 was kind of 578 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,040 nuts. And we were just like, well, you 579 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,840 know, whatever we do, if it's not just the same movie all over 580 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,160 again, they're going to hate it regardless. 581 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,120 So let's just do what we want. So I pitched the idea of having 582 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,800 like a parody of courtroom dramas. 583 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,120 You know, I was like, well, how many horror sequels are based 584 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680 around a courtroom where like Michael Myers is on trial or 585 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Jason Voorhees is on trial or Chucky's on trial? 586 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Could you imagine how stupid that would be? 587 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,000 It wouldn't, it wouldn't make any sense. 588 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,120 These characters can't talk or they're just, you know, he's a 589 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,720 doll. He could just go in a doll mode 590 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,720 and not speak. So I kind of thought that like, 591 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,800 well, wouldn't it be funny if they have Psychowape on trial, 592 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400 he can't talk. And then we eventually we just 593 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,320 stole dialogue from a few good men and gave back to him. 594 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,400 So he can't talk for that scene, but otherwise he can't. 595 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,160 But so that was the idea was we want to do a live action 596 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,080 cartoon, Looney Tunes cartoon Gremlins 2 kind of inspired 597 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,280 courtroom drama parody, but in a psycho way film. 598 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,760 And it's it's it's even more than that. 599 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,920 It's like a weird 70s like hangout movie where nothing 600 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,800 really happens. The characters don't really want 601 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,760 anything. There's no real plot, there's no 602 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,280 real story, but that's all by design. 603 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,240 We just want to make something that was just kind of like the 604 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,440 complete opposite of what the audience was even like 605 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040 expecting. And that's what I live for, 606 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,680 subverting expectations, like not getting people exactly what 607 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,400 they want. Because if it was just another 608 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,040 movie of like the ape killing thirty people with bananas 609 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,400 again, I would have been bored on set and I would have been 610 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,600 like, didn't want to do this. I'm bored. 611 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,000 I'm bored creatively. So that's why the second movie 612 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,960 is like a total like flip flop parody of the first movie. 613 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,680 And it's way more meta because like even halfway through the 614 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,200 film, there's a space balls inspired scene where the 615 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,960 characters are shilling VHS tapes from lunch eat DVDs and 616 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,640 trading cards and things that are are real. 617 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,800 Like you can't buy those things. But it's it's, it's totally just 618 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,240 like Psycho 2 is way more meta, self aware and a parody of 619 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,040 psycho ape, you know, and there's not too many sequels 620 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,440 that would have wanted or been like brave enough to do that 621 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,080 would have been themselves. And I I was very adamant about 622 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,480 if we're doing a Part 2, I'm not, I don't want to do the 623 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,560 first movie again. And I think a lot of people may 624 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,440 have been expecting the way that like, you know, when you watch 625 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,920 Evil Dead and then you watch Evil Dead 2, Evil Dead 2 is the 626 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,480 first movie kind of again, but with a much bigger budget. 627 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,520 Yeah. And it's, but we did Gremlins, 628 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880 Gremlins 2. And I think that kind of threw 629 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,320 people off. And they were like, oh, we 630 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,080 thought maybe it was going to be a bigger budget, which means 631 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,480 like bigger kills, more nudity. And we we didn't do any of that. 632 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,240 Yeah. Well, you kind of touched on 633 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,920 this, but I mean with what you were just saying, but a lot of 634 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,719 you know, they say that our our filmography, our work is kind of 635 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,760 a reflection of like who we are, like what we like, what what we 636 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,639 love, like what makes up our DNA. 637 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,719 So I just, I mean, you basically answered it, but like, what do 638 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,040 your projects say about you as a filmmaker? 639 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440 I mean, you already said you love to subvert expectations and 640 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,520 just be like, guess what, motherfucker, you thought this, 641 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,239 now have this and I love that. But yeah, you want to elaborate 642 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,800 on that a little bit? Well, again, I've gotten to a 643 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,920 point where I've made so many things that now I'm just kind of 644 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,080 experimenting. I just want to see what sticks, 645 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,960 if anything, if whatever weird thing I want to try and do finds 646 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960 an audience. Because I've already made things 647 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,480 that have found an audience. And I just don't want to make 648 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,200 things over and over and over again that are like a sure 649 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,200 thing. Because where's the fun in that 650 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,440 creatively? I, I, I talked about this on 651 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,160 another podcast about two weeks ago. 652 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,760 I haven't talked. I mean, I've been posting stuff 653 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,600 about it on Facebook. So I mean, this is, this is kind 654 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,520 of an exclusive, I suppose. I started shooting Magnum Opus 2 655 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,120 over the summer. I bought myself a new 4K camera 656 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,800 like as a treat to myself. And I, I went into thinking 657 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,840 like, OK, I'm going to start shooting new stuff and it's 658 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,240 going to be for Magnum Opus 2. But after I got some footage in, 659 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:34,960 in the can, I started editing stuff. 660 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,160 I kind of realized that like, it's not really Magnet Opus 2. 661 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:45,520 It was more a bunch of scenes that were like weird food eating 662 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,480 things, like food contests and people eating weird stuff. 663 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,240 Like I went to a convention in Pittsburgh called Gross Fest and 664 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080 director Daryl Hook was there. He's the director of Stoner 665 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,360 Snake and he was going to eat 20 hot dogs. 666 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,960 You know, I was going to film him, but he only mustered 667 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,640 through five. He didn't. 668 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,040 He couldn't finish at all. So the very next day there was 669 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520 an actress there. I always get her name wrong. 670 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,160 It's Mel Heflin. I think. 671 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,000 I get the, I think it's Heflin, not an elephant, it's Heflin. 672 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,760 I get the F and the L Swanson. But she volunteered to try to 673 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,400 finish the rest of these hot dogs and so she ate about 7. 674 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,160 And there was still more hot dogs, though. 675 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,760 Another guy that was there, Dan Comeric, I see him at Cinema 676 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,600 Wasteland and Gross Fest. Super cool guy, super fun. 677 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,400 He volunteered try to eat the rest of the hot dogs. 678 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,520 He about 9 and I still had more hot dogs or I threw the rest 679 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,640 away. But now I had like 50 some 680 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,960 minutes of these people trying to eat hot dogs. 681 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440 I took 50 minutes of this and I truncated it down to about 13 682 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,440 and I didn't want to cut anymore. 683 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,120 And I was like, you know what? 13 minute hot dog eating skit 684 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,640 and the Magnum Opus 2 isn't really like ideal to me because 685 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,240 I know this in an hour has like 60 some skits. 686 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,280 Tons of stuff. Tons. 687 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,360 They're fast, you know, it's fast-paced. 688 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,880 And I was like, yo, I don't want to bog down Magnum Opus 2 with a 689 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,320 13 minute long hot dog eating thing, so why don't I just make 690 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640 this the opening of a different project? 691 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,960 So I just opened up a whole new project file and I stuck that as 692 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,240 the first thing. But then also that over the 693 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:29,680 summer I filmed a skit where the, the girl who defends 694 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,800 Ratatouille in Psycho Ape 1 and 2, she knew or was aware that I 695 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,400 was about to start shooting Magma was 2. 696 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,160 So she pitched me this idea of she wanted to eat a sand 697 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,600 sandwich where we go to a beach and we cover the bread with 698 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:50,240 peanut butter and she sprinkles sand all over the peanut butter 699 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:54,120 and eats a sand sandwich. So we went to the beach and we 700 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,560 did this, you know, she, we, I got the peanut butter and the 701 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,960 bread and her and her friends were already there. 702 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,960 And I filmed her for like 20-30 minutes, you know, lathering up 703 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,720 pieces of bread with peanut butter. 704 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,960 And she sprinkled sand on 1/2 and, you know, put it together 705 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,200 and she ate it, you know, and I filmed the whole thing, the 706 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,000 whole beginning to end of her putting peanut butter on there. 707 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,640 No heroin needles or anything in there, you know lots. 708 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,960 Lots of goose poop. It's pretty dirty beats, pretty 709 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,680 dirty beats. But then she made a second 710 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,120 sandwich, this time spreading peanut butter on one side and 711 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,040 taking the piece of bread and laying it flat down on the 712 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,120 beach. So the entire, it wasn't just 713 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,760 sprinkling sand on there this time it was a flat piece of 714 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,920 bread covered in peanut butter on the on the sand. 715 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,280 So every, every inch of that slice of bread had peanut butter 716 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,800 on it. And she ate that too. 717 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,880 So I cut that down into like a 7 minute segment. 718 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,000 So that 13 minutes that I already had now became 20 total. 719 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,840 And then I filmed another skit of. 720 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,600 Did she die? No, no, she was fine. 721 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,440 She was totally fine. And it was her idea too. 722 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,360 You know, it wasn't me pitching this to her. 723 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,880 She wanted to do it. And then we filmed another skit 724 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:19,320 of my roommate at the time. He volunteered to like put, we 725 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,760 put a blindfold on him and he was like eating a bowl of 726 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,600 popcorn. But while he was eating a bowl 727 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,840 of popcorn, we took an electric bug zapper, like one of those 728 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,960 big like tennis rackets, and we were like zapping them and the 729 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,400 elbow and the fingers and the toes while he was trying to eat 730 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,000 this popcorn. So then I kind of was like 731 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,120 putting all this together and I was like, I've got like 30 732 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,320 minutes of a movie here. And the theme is food. 733 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,960 Every single segment has food in some capacity. 734 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,360 I'm going to call it a hot dog, you mentary. 55 minutes of 735 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,080 people eating. Food nice. 736 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,560 The opening skit is hot dogs and the rest of the movie is just 737 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,400 going to be various other food items. 738 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,280 Like I have another skit where it's not even like eating food. 739 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,640 But the, the test footage for when I first bought that 4K 740 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,760 camera, I also went to a local, like, candy shop that had they 741 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,840 sold these like, gigantic lollipops, like huge ones that 742 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,120 you would see in like, you know, like the Munchkins and like in 743 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,000 the Lollipop Guild. Yeah, not not that big, but like 744 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,680 a medium size. And so I bought 3 and me and two 745 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,600 other friends of mine took turns smashing them over each other's 746 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,000 head like a Three Stooges skit. Those fuckers hurt, man. 747 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,480 And like they're, they're thick and like this shit's. 748 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,200 Like. Everywhere in like 4K. 749 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,080 And so it's really funny. Like so there's there's going to 750 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,400 be elements of like magnum opus in there of like, you know, us 751 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,520 smashing lollipops and getting zapped by an electric bug 752 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,320 zapper. So that. 753 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,680 Mix in a healthy dose of bodily harm, you know what I mean? 754 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,960 Yeah, yeah. It's the sort of because you 755 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,320 can't, I mean, my, again, my, my, my plan is to make it 55 756 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,840 minutes tops, because I'm still going to treat it like it's a 757 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,440 real movie, like it's a real release. 758 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,120 I'm going to send it to the same conventions that I go to because 759 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,120 I just imagine like it playing in some screening room off to 760 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,800 the side. Some guy wanders in with, you 761 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,080 know, some snacks or some beer. He watches about 15 minutes of 762 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,360 it and leaves, you know, and it's just what is this? 763 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,440 What is this weird thing? This isn't a real movie. 764 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,120 So it's kind of like, it's a new kind of art. 765 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,560 It's like a prank on the audience. 766 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,360 But also when I sit there and I watch this edited footage of 767 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,040 just people, like say I filmed another skit of a guy trying to 768 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,720 eat 100 tacos. He was so pumped and he was so 769 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,280 sure of himself that he could eat fucking 100 tacos. 770 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,800 And he taps out at 5:00. So I'm, I'm proving this like 771 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,600 weird sort of sights. It's, it's, it's, it's like a 772 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,160 weird thing where, you know, these people, they starve 773 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,520 themselves all day. And then once we get to like 5-6 774 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,360 PM, they haven't eaten all day. And then we try to like, get 775 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,800 them to down a bunch of hot dogs or a bunch of tacos. 776 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,200 They can't do it. And they tap out in the single 777 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,280 digits. And it's just kind of like, oh, 778 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,320 you know, this is a weird discovery. 779 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,480 And so I'm getting it to film. So it's a weird thing to have a 780 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,400 lot of bravado about, you know what I mean? 781 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,400 Like fuck you, I bet I can eat 100. 782 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,600 Right. And then they tap out at 5:00 783 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,760 and it's like, wait, what's going on? 784 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,400 I haven't eaten all day. Why can't I get past five tacos? 785 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,920 Well, cuz you got cameras in your face and yeah, there's the 786 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,840 stress of the moment. Yeah, I think. 787 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,960 The camera adds a little bit of anxiety, plus the fact that they 788 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,640 just said on camera I'm going to eat 20 hot dogs. 789 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,880 Very confidently, yeah. I I think once the camera is 790 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,480 out, and then you said on camera confidently, I can do this, and 791 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,960 then all of a sudden your stomach decides again, you know, 792 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,480 it turns against you and says, no, you can't. 793 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,200 Yeah, sorry dude. So that's my newest project that 794 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,240 I'm kind of like editing piece meal, like even, you know, 795 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,120 whenever I go to town to a convention, I bring my camera 796 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,760 with me. And you know, I have a couple 797 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,600 conventions coming up in the spring and summer and I'll bring 798 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,200 my camera. And if there's more, if there's 799 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,640 people there who want to, you know, participate like this guy 800 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,080 who I know he, he goes to, I see him at Cinema Wasteland every 801 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,720 year. He volunteered his son to eat 802 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:14,400 like 2 lbs of salami. And it's like you're, you're, 803 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,200 you're signing your son up for this. 804 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,640 He's. Ruining his weekend. 805 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,720 I'm going to pitch something to you for for this project. 806 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,760 Have you ever heard of miracle berries? 807 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,600 No, it's I will send you a link on Amazon. 808 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,040 My Co host brought them one time. 809 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:37,200 It's, it's M Berry miracle Berry tablets and you, you take these 810 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,720 tablets and you dissolve them on your tongue and it alters your 811 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,320 taste buds for like 20-30 minutes. 812 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,640 It coats. And so if you take, take 813 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,960 something like pickle juice and you drink it, it'll taste like 814 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,560 sugar water. Oh, interesting. 815 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,160 And it's so it does this really weird thing so you can eat 816 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,760 things that you normally wouldn't or, or whatever, you 817 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,760 know, because they get changes the flavor profile and it's 818 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,080 dude, it's crazy. You, you end up looking like 819 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,240 you're on acid. You know, you're like in the 820 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,200 kitchen, like, I wonder what peanut butter tastes like. 821 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,480 And you're like, taste it and you're like, it tastes like 822 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,280 whatever, like grape Jelly. Like it. 823 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,560 It really messes with your brain. 824 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,600 So it's it's kind of interesting. 825 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600 And yeah, you should make people take those. 826 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,880 Yeah. I mean, it's not a drug. 827 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,640 It's OK. It's OK because I was like, I'm 828 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,040 not, I'm not taking any drugs, You know what I mean? 829 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,560 Yeah, I've got 35 minutes cut. You know, from all these 830 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,520 different things that I've tried, there's five minute or 831 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,200 there's five segments, 35 minutes cut. 832 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,520 And at 55 minutes, I'm going to pull the plug and say the movie 833 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,360 is over. Literally like, you know, I'm 834 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,720 improvising this movie as I go. You know, whatever segment I 835 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,640 film next, that'll just be the next segment. 836 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,680 And you know, I have ideas pre written. 837 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,200 If anybody, you know, if I can pitch this stuff to people and 838 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,520 they say yes, like somebody sent me a link to Amazon of all these 839 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,840 different, like flavors of weird sodas. 840 00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:00,040 So there's a cake and soda ranch soda, black olive soda. 841 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,200 And it's a whole like, pack, you know. 842 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,160 And so I was planning on ordering that package of sodas 843 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,000 and seeing like in a, you know, who, who can, who wants to drink 844 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000 some of these and just film their reactions. 845 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,560 And yeah, yeah. So eventually, once I got 20 846 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,120 more minutes of footage edited and then the movies done, it's 847 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,160 done. And it's going to go out into 848 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,000 the world and I'm going to see if it'll find an audience. 849 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,800 And if it flops, if it bombs, whatever, man. 850 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,240 I made what I wanted. Dude, you should pull a black 851 00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:28,640 Christmas. And then so everyone is eating 852 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,640 and tasting weird things like, like you said, it's going to end 853 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,760 right at the 50 minute mark. You just pull the camera out 854 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,480 through the window, you know, just keep backing up. 855 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,800 Like whatever's still happening inside the house is still 856 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,400 happening inside the house. The end. 857 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:46,640 Yeah, dude, that sounds like an amazing project and I'm here for 858 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,920 it. I'm telling you right now. 859 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,280 It's definitely me and my most experimental and just like, 860 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,280 again, man, I've been doing movie riffing for so long and I 861 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,280 feel like I've done it. And we did 2 Psycho 8 movies. 862 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,960 So I kind of feel like I've done that. 863 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,120 You know, this was intended to be Magnum Opus 2, but then it 864 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,640 just kind of became like a food eating competition. 865 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,120 And it's like probably Magnum Opus 2, but I can turn into 866 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,360 something else that's unique and different. 867 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,640 And it's not horror. It's not narrative. 868 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,760 It's not even really comedy unless like except for like the 869 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,400 stunt part, you know, getting zapped. 870 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,960 Or I mean, I guess eating a nasty sand sandwich is funny, 871 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,560 but there, there are just like segments where it's just like a 872 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,400 guy eating 5 tacos. And it's not like it's not 873 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,040 really hilarious. Right. 874 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,720 But you know, it's, it's almost, it's a little mesmerizing to 875 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:42,360 watch, almost like like ASMR but like visual ASMR. 876 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,800 I don't know, it's really weird. I love it because it's a very 877 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,680 Andy Kaufman thing to do. And that's, you know, no one 878 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,200 else has to find it funny, you know what I mean? 879 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,640 But but you're sitting there and you're watching the audience, 880 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,720 like not get it. And that's fucking hilarious. 881 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,320 Again, it's also like TomTom Greenish. 882 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,080 It's, you know, Andy Warhol. Yeah, yeah. 883 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,400 He would just film stuff for long periods of time. 884 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,920 And so you could just watch the Empire State Building for 24 885 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,600 hours. So it's just kind of like, I 886 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,760 don't know, this is just my weird experimental project. 887 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,720 And if I sell 20 copies, I'll break even on it, you know? 888 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,640 I I love it. Can I ask him a question? 889 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:32,400 Yep, you can ask him a question. Can I get a cameo in Amityville 890 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,240 Doghouse? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 891 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,520 We, we started writing at last summer and I mean, we were, we 892 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,960 were working on it at least once a week and we just kind of like 893 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,800 abandoned the script. But there's like 11 pages an 894 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,120 outline. There's like 11 pages of outline 895 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,920 written. We just needed we needed an 896 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,280 ending and we couldn't think of one that really like stuck the 897 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,960 landing because it's it's an absurd like almost sort of like 898 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,040 Naked Gun style or like, you know, Weird AL's UHF where I 899 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,360 want it to be kind of like a spoof movie, but with like a 900 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,880 barrage of spoofs and shit like that is hard to. 901 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,840 Write it. Really. 902 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,400 Because you need like, either a setup, a punchline, A payoff, or 903 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,680 you need to think of a gag and to think of like a ton of those 904 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,280 different styles or, you know, that style of comedy writing is 905 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,160 really tough. And we were exhausting ourselves 906 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,240 trying to think of like, OK, what's the next scene going to 907 00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:32,240 be? What's the next scene going to 908 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:33,360 be? Because every scene is 909 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,840 essentially a non sequitur. There's no story. 910 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,880 You know, like there's an overarching idea, but there's no 911 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,080 real story because there's no real arcs in these kind of spoof 912 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,360 movies. A spoof movie behaves 913 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,360 differently than a real movie. There's there's just, you know, 914 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,000 scene, scene, scene, scene, scene. 915 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,480 And every single scene has to have the setup and pay off. 916 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,760 Yeah, and that's really hard to write. 917 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,080 So we did get 11 pages into writing that. 918 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,120 It still exists, you know, it's on my laptop, but we just sort 919 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,640 of abandoned it. I would like to make it someday. 920 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,560 You bring it back. The cellar dweller would love to 921 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,520 be in it, that's for sure. I. 922 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,160 Mean we had this whole thing where like, you know, my buddy 923 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,840 is like, you know, he, he he's trying to build a doghouse or 924 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,360 something, but he's got no carpentry skills and so then he 925 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,400 just finds one like at the curb and puts it in his backyard. 926 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:28,520 And so now his backyard is haunted, but like, you know, the 927 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:33,960 dog house, it's, you know, powers only extends to the 928 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,800 backyard. It can never really haunt inside 929 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,000 his house. So it's only like, well, just 930 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,160 don't go outside you. Know it's just blowing in the 931 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,360 backyard, yeah. It's blowing in the backyard or 932 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,040 bleeding all over the grass, and it's just like, OK, well, that's 933 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,640 ruining the lawn, but what else is it really doing? 934 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,840 It's not really doing anything. It kills birds that land on it, 935 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,480 you know? Right. 936 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,080 It's it's it's like we had a bunch of scenes of like 937 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,080 escalation of, OK, well, you know, I found a dead squirrel in 938 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,560 there. And then I found like, you know, 939 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,920 they find like a dead cat in there and then they find a whole 940 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,840 dead deer carcass picking out of the doghouse progressively just 941 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,960 like, you know, getting crazier and crazier. 942 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,720 And so like, then it's sort of it becomes, you know, almost 943 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:17,720 like Little Shop of Horrors where the owner gets sort of 944 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:22,360 mind linked, you know, to the dog house beating at people. 945 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,920 Like a night night swim, except good and. 946 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,200 Actually what what we were going for because we had just fucking 947 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,040 watched Night Swim and we were like, dude, that movie sucks. 948 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:33,600 Oh. Boy. 949 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,080 Wow. I don't normally say a movie 950 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,240 sucks, but wow. Yeah, yeah, let's combine Night 951 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:43,240 Swim with like Little Shop of Horrors and Amityville Horror. 952 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,600 And that's essentially what and like with, but with Naked Gun 953 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,520 UHF style kind of rapid fire their. 954 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,040 Gags. That's pure gold dude, I'm 955 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,760 telling you right. Yeah, we tried. 956 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,480 We tried and we got, like I said, we got 11 pages into that 957 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,160 outline and then we kind of burned ourselves out because we 958 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,680 when you're writing like that, sort of like at that pace and 959 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,880 you're coming up with like that much material and you are just 960 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,960 throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. 961 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,720 Well then once you get to the end, you're like, why the end 962 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:13,480 this? What? 963 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,080 Exactly, Yeah. Why do you? 964 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:20,920 Because there's no, there's no real character arc in this 965 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,160 movie. It's just a bunch of stupid 966 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,360 scenes. So how do you end this? 967 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,840 What is the ending here? That would be satisfactory, you 968 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,640 know. Yeah, I mean essentially like 969 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,520 night Swim or even the original Amityville, like just go away 970 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,440 like. Yeah, it's. 971 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,280 Like the birds. My son and I make that joke all 972 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,880 the time. Like I love the birds, but it's 973 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,800 like, who knew? All you had to do was like get 974 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,080 in your car and drive away from the birds? 975 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,720 I didn't. Really think that would be 976 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:45,920 satisfactory enough for this kind of material. 977 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,840 Like it needs to be either like super, super, super nuts and 978 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,960 crazy or it is that simple where they just like, I don't know, 979 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,480 give it to somebody else or something. 980 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,480 I don't know. I have no. 981 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,560 Put it on the curb with free on it. 982 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,760 Yeah, set up the sequel. We couldn't get there. 983 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,040 We couldn't quite get there. Plus we were getting into like 984 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,200 we were spitting our wheels thinking of like the lore of the 985 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,680 doghouse, like where it came from and why it's haunted. 986 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,840 And then once you have like 3 people like with conflicting 987 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,080 ideas and wars and they're like, OK, maybe we need to take a step 988 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,160 back from this because we're not coming to an agreement here over 989 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,400 the lore of a haunted doghouse. I think we need to maybe take a 990 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,200 break. Oh my God, yeah. 991 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,080 I love it, dude. Yeah. 992 00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:35,320 On that note, dude, we'll wrap this up. 993 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:40,920 We'll move to the last segment of the show called Hot Takes. 994 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,840 OK. It's sounding big sub hot takes 995 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,200 and I don't care if you like my hot takes 'cause. 996 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,040 These are my motherfucking. Hot takes. 997 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:56,880 Hot takes. Now for this, I have 10 998 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,440 different things AB choices for you. 999 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,280 This is the Deep Cut podcast and I would not be doing that name 1000 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,960 justice if I did not do some deep cuts and scroll endlessly, 1001 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,840 endlessly, endlessly through your social medias years and 1002 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,400 years and years and years back finding things that you like, 1003 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,360 you love, you care about and force you to choose between two 1004 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,640 of them 10 different times. So that being said, and you can 1005 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:31,560 either just rapid firearm or you can give the audience a reason, 1006 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,520 you know, let them let them know why you choose what you choose 1007 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,680 and why it means what it means to you #1 Don Doler versus David 1008 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,160 the Rock Nelson. Oh, I picked David the Rock 1009 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,040 Nelson. Yeah, I I figured you would, but 1010 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,600 yeah. Yeah, that guy, he is. 1011 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,040 I mean, he's obviously an oddball, but he's a hoot. 1012 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,080 I kind of got turned on to his stuff in the summer of 2020 when 1013 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,520 we were all locked down in quarantine. 1014 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,200 And that guy is so old school. You know, he, he films his 1015 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,000 movies and, you know, dupes them on tapes and is the copies of 1016 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,880 his films because he'll just send you like a copy on DVD. 1017 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,200 But it's, it's sourced from a tape that's been duped and duped 1018 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,040 and duped and duped. So the, the source material is 1019 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,160 so fucked up and hard to watch. And so you're just looking, 1020 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,920 you're watching like a 15th generation VHS tape that's now 1021 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,680 being like duped again. And so you're like, Oh, this is 1022 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,400 really like my roommate. My like my one of my close 1023 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,760 buddies. When we try to, I try to show 1024 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,760 them this stuff and they, they want nothing to do with David 1025 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,600 Rock Nelson. And and I can understand it's a 1026 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,400 tough sit. It's an acquired taste for sure. 1027 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,760 It's an acquired taste, man. It's like taking your coffee 1028 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,680 black as hell, you know, No cream and sugar. 1029 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,840 Like nothing at all, like nothing to soften the blow. 1030 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,440 It is what it is. And he's a one man show. 1031 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,560 That's what I like about him because he's a one man show. 1032 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,280 He does everything himself. He's a writer, director, actor. 1033 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,240 He dupes everything himself. He edits everything himself. 1034 00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:58,840 It's just him. It's purely him. 1035 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,640 It's it's it's pure creativity distilled down from 160 year old 1036 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:03,440 crazy man. Yeah. 1037 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,920 He just wants to make these things. 1038 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,600 He plays every character. He recycles footage from film to 1039 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,160 film. Yeah. 1040 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,680 And he'll he'll dub over what people are saying to fit the 1041 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,280 story of his newest movie. So he's he's also very like he 1042 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,040 just recycles. You know, he doesn't, he doesn't 1043 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,040 waste anything. Like if you're if you're already 1044 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,560 shot a scene where someone is like out and about on the town, 1045 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:29,040 well, he'll just use that same shot in every movie because now 1046 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,680 he never he in his mind. Well, I never needed a film. 1047 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,520 Another new shot of someone running around on the town. 1048 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,400 I have a shot and I have it for life. 1049 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,600 So again, you're watching one of his newer movies. 1050 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,120 It'll randomly cut to something from like 1993 and it's like, 1051 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,440 wait a minute, you know that's I. 1052 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,240 Recognize this I've. Seen that and it's six other 1053 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:50,600 films. But I think it's very like, 1054 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,280 creative. I think it's very interesting 1055 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,880 and funny and weird. And also like when you send him 1056 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,560 money, like, you know, you send him a check. 1057 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,560 He doesn't have PayPal. He doesn't use credit cards. 1058 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,080 Paper straight up, yeah. You got to look for his address 1059 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,440 and if you send him a, you know, a check, you got to write down 1060 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,200 which titles you want. You have to do your own math of 1061 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,320 like, OK, well, this is the price that he wants and this is 1062 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,200 the shipping. So you got to write all that 1063 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,560 down. You got to, you got to figure it 1064 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,000 out on your by yourself, you know, and then you send him a 1065 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,760 check with however much what I did over the the summer of like 1066 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,600 2020 was I sent him a check of like $100 and I was just like, 1067 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,720 send me what you want. That's it. 1068 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,120 Yeah. Here's our books. 1069 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,200 And so my David Rock Nelson collection is pretty big because 1070 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,240 I kept doing that. Now I've got about 9 or 10 of 1071 00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:36,320 his titles plus Saturn Core or Saturn score. 1072 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,000 They're they're a brand that's attached to vinegar syndrome. 1073 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,120 They licensed a bunch of his stuff, so they put out two David 1074 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,400 Russon collections on Blu-ray. Yeah, but what's funny is, 1075 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,080 again, it's on Blu-ray, but it's it's remasters of his crappy 1076 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,600 VHS. So even though it's on Blu-ray, 1077 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,680 it does not look any. Better no. 1078 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,120 Sound any better? They didn't fix anything up, 1079 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,840 it's just now they can fit more. And the thing that's crazy too 1080 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,880 about his movies is that some of them can go up to 4 1/2. 1081 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,440 Hours long. You know, it's 4 1/2 hours of 1082 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,240 him playing with like, you know, toys because we know he doesn't 1083 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,920 have any budget. So when he needs to illustrate, 1084 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,920 like a dinosaur or some kind of big monster destroying a town, 1085 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:24,160 it's his hands holding, you know, a rubber Ant smashing toy 1086 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,880 tanks. And it's like, again, even 1087 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,600 though he's like 60 years old, it's a very like, childlike way 1088 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,280 of making movies. He's insane in the best way. 1089 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,160 Yeah, I can relate to that. You know, yeah, that's, yeah, 1090 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,160 You, you have, you nailed it. That's that's perfect, Yeah. 1091 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,080 I met the guy once. I met him at a convention in 1092 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:44,760 Chicago. Dude. 1093 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,480 He's a monster. He's like jacked too. 1094 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,480 Oh, yeah, he's a former boxer, and he still keeps up with his 1095 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,280 regiments, so don't let his oddball behavior fool you. 1096 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,920 He's not just some, like, you know, cellar dweller. 1097 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,240 He's not just some nerd in the basement, like making these 1098 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,400 weird monster movies, right? He could also probably kick the 1099 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,000 shit out of you. Yeah. 1100 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,200 He's a beast, that's for sure, but #2 Simpsons or South Park? 1101 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,680 You know, I probably like maybe 10 years ago, 15 years ago would 1102 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,600 have said South Park. But as I've gotten older, I, I'm 1103 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,880 saying Simpsons now, because when you watch some of those 1104 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,280 early seasons, like up until maybe like season 10 or 11, that 1105 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,560 tonight, that's a me as some of the best comedy writing that's 1106 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,120 ever been committed to television. 1107 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:33,160 Because the people who were writing that show in the late 1108 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:38,560 80s, early 90s are some of the most clever, like smartest, 1109 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,560 funniest people. You know those people are like 1110 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,240 Harvard graduates. They don't miss. 1111 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,560 They don't miss, you know, they, they, they're from the, the 1112 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,880 National Lampoon. So their, their sense of humor 1113 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,840 is so smart, so clever. And we don't get that now 1114 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:57,520 because they were sourcing their inspirations from classic comedy 1115 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,160 from the 60s and 70s or even earlier than that at the 50s. 1116 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,400 And so you have these writers who were in their 30s when they 1117 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,000 were writing for The Simpsons and in the early 90s, but their 1118 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,000 frame of reference is for stuff that's even beyond, you know, 1119 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,960 our comprehension now, because you don't have access to that 1120 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,760 kind of, or we, we do, but we don't, it's not the same for us. 1121 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,640 But they grew up, you know, refining their skills based on 1122 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,080 their, you know, their what they're referencing and what 1123 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,640 influenced them. So for me, that's a time capsule 1124 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,400 of some of the greatest comedy writing ever. 1125 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,760 Like, South Park is great. South Park is hilarious. 1126 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,440 But I, you know, I feel like they've become too reliant on 1127 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,320 like topical humor. Then when you watch South Park 1128 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,960 from 1520 years ago, it's not as relevant, it's not as funny 1129 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,080 because you're like, oh, they're just referencing something in 1130 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,600 pop culture that happened that week. 1131 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,800 You like admire that. They turned that episode around 1132 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,400 in six days at the time, like it was relevant to topical at the 1133 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,720 time. But I prefer a longer lasting 1134 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,040 comedy than pop culture. What's relevant now? 1135 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,840 Comedy. I would say like with Simpsons, 1136 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,040 like you said, the first ten seasons, I'd go even further, 1137 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,960 you know, up to season 1617. Like my wife and I just had this 1138 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,320 conversation the other day when it, when an episode from those 1139 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:20,040 earlier seasons comes on, they're, they're like committed 1140 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,680 to memory, You know what I mean? You, you hear one line of 1141 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,640 dialogue and you're like, it's setting up this joke, this joke. 1142 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:25,920 This is the episode where this happens. 1143 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,360 Like, and you can sit, you can sit and watch it and say it 1144 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,640 verbatim with it. And South Park for us, like we 1145 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,600 love South Park, but probably like, you know, the 1st six or 1146 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,480 seven seasons of South Park, those ones are like committed to 1147 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,720 memory. But like you said, they start 1148 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,880 kind of drifting and they're. For me, South Park kind of falls 1149 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:58,000 off when they started to be able to really incorporate like fancy 1150 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,400 animation into the show. To me, I miss the cardboard cut 1151 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,080 out style. I like, you know, obviously I 1152 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,080 like DIY, like rough around the edges. 1153 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,600 You know, when they started incorporating like World of 1154 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,880 Warcraft and stuff where they could like, you know, animate 1155 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,760 certain angles they couldn't animate before, It's like, well, 1156 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,640 you know, I don't really think that angle is that funny 1157 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,000 looking. You know, I don't really think 1158 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,200 that, you know, having World of Warcraft is really that funny. 1159 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,240 That's more just like relevant and topical now. 1160 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,760 But then in 20 years, are people going to remember World of 1161 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,280 Warcraft? Is that going to be relevant? 1162 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,640 And then you go back and you watch an old episode of The 1163 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,040 Simpsons. And it's not that it's not like, 1164 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,840 and like, you know, like you watch like an episode like with, 1165 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,160 with, you know, Homer wanting to buy a gun, Like relevant or not, 1166 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,520 that's a fucking hilarious episode because of everything 1167 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,960 that happens. You know, the Poochie episode. 1168 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,600 Oh my God, in Scratchy Land, like all this stuff, it's just 1169 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,760 funny for the sake of being funny rather than satirizing 1170 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,400 what's in the news. Yeah, I literally have a Homer 1171 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,440 tattoo of him with the chainsaw and hockey mask and it says, 1172 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,160 hey, Bart, want to see my new chainsaw and hockey mask? 1173 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,120 Right. Like, you know, it's, it's stuff 1174 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,240 like that where you'll you'll just endlessly, you're like, 1175 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,040 this is comedy genius, you know, Yeah. 1176 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,360 Well that was too is like I just watched this last month the 1177 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:18,000 episode there's 2/2 of my top favorites are the Carney episode 1178 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,760 when? With Ernest, right? 1179 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,720 Yeah. Yeah, Jim Arney does the voice 1180 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,400 of, I think Earl or Curl, whatever his name is, and they 1181 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,280 invite him back to the house and they take over the house 1182 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,320 squatting. You, you're squatting classical. 1183 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,600 And it's just like, that's not topical, that's not political, 1184 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,320 that's not relevant. It's just fucking funny. 1185 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,560 Yeah, it's just awesome. Yeah, and so it's like the 1186 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,920 episode when Homer becomes a truck driver after getting into 1187 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,680 a steak eating competition with a guy guys. 1188 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,840 And so he just like, you know, takes on the guys job and that 1189 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,680 sounds like it's classic. It's just so sweet. 1190 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,400 Or like the tobacco episode. Oh yeah, yeah, with the goats. 1191 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,880 Get all crazy like zombies, Yeah. 1192 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,960 Yeah, that that shit is just so funny. 1193 01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,320 And it's not referencing anything. 1194 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,040 You don't have to have any sense of like what was going on in the 1195 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,720 news at that time. That to me is just like when it 1196 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,080 when comedy is. That's good. 1197 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,720 It doesn't have to rely on any references or anything. 1198 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,000 That's just you can just watch it and laugh. 1199 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,560 That that makes it better. That makes it better to me. 1200 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,720 Yeah, you shut your brain off and just have a good time. 1201 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,240 Yeah, and it's the same thing, like modern Saturday Night Live. 1202 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,120 Like I like SNLI think, but I prefer the sketches that are 1203 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,560 weird and, like hilarious over their political stuff. 1204 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,360 Like, I mean, I do like, you know, what they're doing with 1205 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,120 Donald Trump and I do like, you know, Weekend Update, but that's 1206 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,040 not my favorite part. My favorite is when you know 1207 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,120 like Sarah Sherman are doing something strange or you know, 1208 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,560 Bow and Yang is just doing something weird. 1209 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,280 I just I want to see the weird sketches because to me like 1210 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,720 weirdness and non sequiturs are way funnier and trying to prove 1211 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,800 a point like whatever. Yeah, absolutely. 1212 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,160 All right. This one for the people who are 1213 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,360 listening or watching or however you're consuming this might not 1214 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:04,360 know that Addison spends A considerable amount of time in a 1215 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,560 motor vehicle. You, you do a lot of travel. 1216 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:14,000 So this is a travel question because you have to drive all 1217 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,680 the time. Worst driving weather, 1218 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,360 torrential downpour or Blizzard because you are in all of them 1219 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,960 all the time. They both have their pros and 1220 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,320 cons. OK, I to be honest with you, and 1221 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,920 this might sound weird, I would rather drive when it's not. 1222 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,560 Maybe in a Blizzard, but snowing over rain because you can't see 1223 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,480 anything on the road. When it's raining as fast as the 1224 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,800 windshield wipers are going, you can't see anything. 1225 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,760 Like with the torrential downpour, you're screwed. 1226 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,520 Plus there's puddles and like, you know, I live in Michigan so 1227 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:51,000 you know, people freak out when it starts snowing and they 1228 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,160 forget what it's like to drive in winter weather. 1229 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,400 So sometimes they just get the fuck off the road and I have to 1230 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,760 deal with them. So and like I'm a pretty 1231 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,520 confident driver and I do Uber Eats, I do Grubhub. 1232 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,480 I've been doing that for about 5 years now. 1233 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,360 Plus all the traveling I do and I've driven to Iowa, I've driven 1234 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,760 to Delaware, I've driven to Chicago multiple times, all 1235 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,040 these places multiple times, Ohio, Pittsburgh multiple times 1236 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,200 for conventions and screenings of my movies and stuff. 1237 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,480 And, you know, I've gotten a pretty good gauge as to like, 1238 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,240 you know, what people like on the road in certain States and 1239 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,440 speeds and all that kind of stuff. 1240 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,920 And yeah, I think I'd rather drive in the rain than snow. 1241 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,280 All right, clear cut, plain and simple. 1242 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,640 Next one editing or cinematography? 1243 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,720 Which one do you like more? Oh, that is actually kind of a 1244 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,520 tough one. I think right now 1245 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:46,000 cinematography, because I'm kind of burnt out on editing, comes 1246 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,120 in waves. You know. 1247 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,520 You know, like I said, I spent 10 years editing 133 episodes of 1248 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,120 a movie ripping show. Plus I put together a 1249 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,840 Magramopus, plus I made two episodes of your Masterpiece 1250 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,240 Theatre. That's a lot of audio editing 1251 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,880 and I, I wouldn't even consider myself like a professional audio 1252 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,040 editor. It's just I am 1, you know, like 1253 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,200 I have to do it. Out of necessity, yeah. 1254 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,480 Necessity and I feel like I'm pretty decent at it. 1255 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,000 I'm not a sound guy, but maybe I'm a pretty decent audio editor 1256 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,040 and audio mixer. I just have crazy like ADHD for 1257 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,160 that kind of stuff of like listening and making sure and 1258 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,760 tweaking and trying to make sure that it's right. 1259 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:26,400 But right now I actually, I think I like filming this eating 1260 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,440 footage more than I do sitting down with it and cutting it. 1261 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,760 Because like I said, trying to cut that stuff. 1262 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,520 I shoot. The way that I've been filming 1263 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,480 those segments is I don't lock the camera down. 1264 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,720 It's all handheld and I'll just film 1 long continuous take of 1265 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,480 me, like walking around the, you know, the person and zooming in, 1266 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,560 zooming out and just getting different angles handheld. 1267 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,240 But I won't ever cut and it'll just be like 20 minutes or 30 1268 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,440 minutes or 50 minutes of one take. 1269 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,320 And then I just upload it and they lay that one take on the 1270 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,360 timeline and then I just chop it down into bits into what I'm 1271 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,960 looking for. And so it might look like I have 1272 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,800 coverage, it might look like I have close-ups and I did, but it 1273 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,520 was all in one master like movement. 1274 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,120 And so it has a weird kind of flow to it where it is very like 1275 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,360 documentary. It is very like like free 1276 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,520 flowing but the same time sitting there and editing 120 1277 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,760 minute long take actually takes like 2. 1278 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,760 Hours yeah yeah I got it I know cuz yeah with the podcast 1279 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:35,000 everything is recorded baked into one yeah and just boy yeah 1280 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,320 they. Give me a lot. 1281 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:42,080 They can all right, next one this this I actually asked VHS 1282 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:47,520 Mikey as well on an interview, but you guys both share a love 1283 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,640 for both of these things. So puppets or stop motion? 1284 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,600 Stop motion. Nice. 1285 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,720 Just because I'm a King Kong guy at heart, you know, like that 1286 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:05,040 original 1933 movie sparks creativity that you know when 1287 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,200 you watch King Kong and you're 5 years old and then you're just 1288 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,080 like, I want to fucking do that, You know, like I just want to 1289 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,480 see and or like the the early like Sinbad movies at the golden 1290 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,560 voyage of Sinbad and the seven the 7th. 1291 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,680 Oh yeah, with the the Harryhausen. 1292 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,160 Yeah, Harry, like Harryhausen for sure. 1293 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:25,279 And then like I was a big Puppet Master fan, but I preferred all 1294 01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:28,240 the moments in the early movies that were stop motion made by. 1295 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,520 There's a guy, his name is David Allen, and he did all the stop 1296 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,520 motion stuff for Full Moon before he passed away. 1297 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,720 So. And also one of my favorite TV 1298 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,439 shows growing up was Celebrity Deathmatch, if you remember that 1299 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:38,760 one. Yeah. 1300 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,160 Oh yeah, absolutely. Oh, being a big, big fan of 1301 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,840 like, King Kong, Sinbad, Puppet Master, a celebrity deathmatch? 1302 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,840 Yeah, I'll pick stop motion. Have you ever experimented with 1303 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,160 stop motion yourself? Yeah, but I wasn't very good at 1304 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,399 it. I didn't have the patience for 1305 01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,240 it. Like I tried when I was a kid 1306 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,479 and because I had a camera that I could just do like frame by 1307 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,319 frame by frame. But when I realized just how 1308 01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:05,600 goddamn long it was going to take to like, do my own sort of 1309 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,640 celebrity Deathmatch with like, action figures and stuff, I, I 1310 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,600 abandoned Jiff away. Yeah, it's, it's a lot, man. 1311 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,720 We did a little tiny, like 10 second tape head return of Jacob 1312 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,319 Cobb promo and we had little rubber maggots. 1313 01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:21,680 And I was like, I'm going to stop motion these crawling 1314 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,279 around and going in the hole of the mask. 1315 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:29,000 And it took like 6 hours. And it's like maybe, yeah, maybe 1316 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,920 4 seconds of actual stop motion. And then, like a title card, you 1317 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,960 know, and you're like, oh, kill me now. 1318 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,160 Yeah. I couldn't imagine like 1319 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:39,120 articulated things. Or jumping or like, you know, 1320 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,800 like the actual battle, you know, like, like in Jason and 1321 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,479 the Argonauts when they're fighting all the skeletons and 1322 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:44,960 stuff. Yeah. 1323 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,359 'Cause you got to paint out all the like things that are holding 1324 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:50,319 them up too, right? Essentially so. 1325 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,960 Frame by frame. Like, you know, I'm a meticulous 1326 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,680 editor and I can edit frame by frame and I can edit audio frame 1327 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,600 by frame, but I don't, I'm just, I'm not built for stop motion. 1328 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,880 Yeah, man, maybe one day, maybe one day we'll lock ourselves in 1329 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,360 a room and make something. Crazy. 1330 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,720 I'll hire somebody else to. Do that. 1331 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,720 I'll check in periodically. Bring them coffee. 1332 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,640 Yeah. All right. 1333 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,480 Next one Congo or Jurassic Park? Oh, easily. 1334 01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:17,400 Jurassic Park. Congo's a joke, you know, like 1335 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,640 I, I joke about Congo a lot, you know, like, you know, they're in 1336 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,600 the cycle. It opens with, you know, Kansas 1337 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,760 bowling at her teenage slumber party with legitimate Congo 1338 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,640 board game that I found at a thrift shop like that week, you 1339 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,720 know, like I just happened to go to a thrift stop and I found 1340 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,440 that and I was like, we're shooting Psycho wave this week. 1341 01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:39,480 We'll incorporated into the opening slumber party sequence. 1342 01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:42,000 Like that was just how improvised that movie was. 1343 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,400 Was I found that, you know, but it's, it's like missing the game 1344 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,240 pieces. You know, it's incomplete when 1345 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,280 they're playing it in the movie, like they're not playing at the 1346 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,320 right way because the, the, the, the pieces are all gone. 1347 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,040 But no, I mean, I've even, I did an episode of rainy afternoon on 1348 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,920 Congo. It's it's more of a like 1349 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,320 nostalgic sort of like, wow, that movie is so dumb. 1350 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,520 And so it's, it's, it's pretty boring too. 1351 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:13,200 Like that's The thing is that despite it being a pretty big 1352 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,120 box office success, like it did make it did make a lot of. 1353 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:16,680 Money. It did. 1354 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,000 Yeah. It had toy line and like you 1355 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,840 said, a board game and yeah. Board game. 1356 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,840 I mean, Taco Bell had a licensing agreement with it and 1357 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,440 they sold like volcano tacos and stuff in 1995. 1358 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:31,120 But it's not a good movie. It's just it's not a good movie. 1359 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,760 Breaking my heart. But I love the ending with the 1360 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,760 lasers. Dude, yeah, the lasers are rad. 1361 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,400 My Co host also, every time I bring up Congo, he's like, that 1362 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,200 movie sucks. And I'm like, dude, I I don't 1363 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,120 know what it is. I got a super soft spot for 1364 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,640 Congo. Is it better than Jurassic Park? 1365 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,360 No, but not not even in the slightest. 1366 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,520 But boy, it's a stupid fun. I will. 1367 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,640 Tell, I mean, I will say that, you know, I think an ideal 90s 1368 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,440 like monster movie double feature is if you probably 1369 01:11:56,440 --> 01:12:00,520 paired up Congo with Anaconda. Nice, and you're gonna have a 1370 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,600 good afternoon. Yeah, I also love Anaconda and I 1371 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,120 will fight you do to the death. On I might be on Quanda more 1372 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,800 than Congo but I have both on 4K so I don't want to say anything. 1373 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,400 Is snakes out there this big all day? 1374 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,720 All day. All right. 1375 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,400 Next question, Tom Green, Andy Milanakis. 1376 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,520 Oh, definitely Tom Green. I found Andy Milanakis pretty 1377 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,720 obnoxious. Yeah, that was a ringer 1378 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,080 question. But yeah, I know, I know your 1379 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,480 your love for Tom Green. Same here with us. 1380 01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:35,720 We are massive Tom Green marks. Yeah, I think he can do no 1381 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,280 wrong. I also think he's an incredible 1382 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,040 lyricist. Just a sidebar. 1383 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:40,640 He can rap his ass off. So. 1384 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,240 Yeah, well, you know that, you know, before he even did like 1385 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,160 stand up comedy or anything like a public access TV, He did like 1386 01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:51,240 he, he, he made a rap album with like a group of friends in 1387 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,560 Canada in like the early 90s way before he was on public access. 1388 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,280 Check the OR baby. Yeah. 1389 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:03,600 So you know, his his roots are in like, you know, rap music. 1390 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:04,760 Yeah. And public. 1391 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,800 Discounted a lot, yeah. And so now actually, he's not a 1392 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,920 he's not, he doesn't rap anymore, but he still does 1393 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,360 music. Like he's been doing a lot of 1394 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,120 country stuff because now he like bought a home, you know, in 1395 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,720 Canada, way, way out in the country. 1396 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,040 He has a farm of like a mule and everything and he and all this 1397 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,640 stuff. So he, he's definitely has 1398 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:28,080 transformed himself into a Canadian farmer away from the 1399 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,720 glitz and glamour of Hollywood. But he still tours and does 1400 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,320 stand up, and now he makes country songs. 1401 01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:34,480 Yeah, that's, I mean full circle. 1402 01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:38,760 You know, you grow up and now he's I watched that documentary, 1403 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,360 you know, he moved out there and he's just kind of living and 1404 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,640 loving life and, you know, doing going back to doing stand up and 1405 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:52,040 shows and it's refreshing. It's he's a, he's a definite 1406 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,080 like inspiration for a lot of a lot of guys our age for sure. 1407 01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,800 Well, yeah, I mean, it's total. Like, you know, he did the Tom 1408 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,960 Green show, right? And it was a big smash success. 1409 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:09,120 And then randomly Paramount, I think 2000 Fox, they give him 1410 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,040 like $20 million to make some movie, but whatever he wants, 1411 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,280 like he has like to be as weird and crazy as he wants. 1412 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,120 And you know, he so he delivers this product that is as crazy 1413 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,000 and offensive as what he thought they wanted. 1414 01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:26,160 And, you know, much to his surprise, it ended up being this 1415 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,040 big box office bomb. It offends everybody. 1416 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,600 And he is, you know, left scratching his head. 1417 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,680 Like I thought this was what people wanted from me. 1418 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,120 I thought this was something sort of like what you were 1419 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,560 expecting from me. Isn't this like what you paid me 1420 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,480 to do? What were you expecting? 1421 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:43,520 Shakespeare? Like this isn't like he wasn't 1422 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,880 about to just make some like drama piece or whatever it was 1423 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,800 as it was in tune with everything he was doing that MTV 1424 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,600 anyway. Perhaps maybe he went too 1425 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,080 extreme at the time or I think actually probably what it was 1426 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,000 was, you know, making an R rated movie that was like that, absurd 1427 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,120 and disgusting and offensive. His audience members were not 1428 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,320 old enough to go see. Yeah, I also think like because 1429 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,400 he he broke so many rules with that movie. 1430 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,960 Like he doesn't, if you look at the comedies of that time, you 1431 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,960 know, and, and still, even though comedies are terrible 1432 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,120 now, but like they, they all kind of follow that's there's a 1433 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,080 structure to a comedy film. And and with Tom Green's movie, 1434 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,440 he's like, I don't really care about that structure. 1435 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:30,480 Like it's gonna it's gonna go this way because I want it to go 1436 01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:33,840 this way. And like your standard movie 1437 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:38,560 going audience, their brain is in tune to like this is how 1438 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,800 movies are supposed to be exactly. 1439 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:46,120 So I think it'll find it's like second win it. 1440 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,800 Needs to be released on Blu-ray or 4K and all that stuff. 1441 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,840 But he has no control over any of that right? 1442 01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:57,200 Cuz when I met him almost two years ago, he said that, you 1443 01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,720 know, he wasn't even notified that the movie was like 1444 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,320 available to stream or anything. Like nobody reached out to him. 1445 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,200 It was fans telling him like, hey, your movie gets, it's on 1446 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,280 the Criterion Channel, you know, or hey, your movie's on Hulu, 1447 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,040 which also means it's on Disney Plus because those two are 1448 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:15,880 collected now. He had no idea. 1449 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,320 No one, no one let him know because they don't have to. 1450 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,280 You know they own it. It's their product. 1451 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,560 Yeah, it's it's a studio movie. So he delivered his product, 1452 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,080 Product. And they can do with it what 1453 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,400 they want, but they don't. They're not obligated to let 1454 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:31,600 them know. Anything. 1455 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,480 You know, maybe we'll get some residuals here and there, but 1456 01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:37,720 they'll they won't ever, no studio will ever tell a director 1457 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,320 unless you're like, you know, bagging or bugging them, you 1458 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,680 know, or like, unless you're like really in with the studio, 1459 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,720 they're probably not going to let you know that your movie 1460 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,320 from 20 years ago is like, oh, it's on this streaming 1461 01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,600 ServiceNow. It's on that streaming 1462 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,080 ServiceNow. They're not going to do. 1463 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,120 That Yeah, Nope. All right. 1464 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,600 Next one. This is a little bit of new 1465 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,400 versus old. So Sinners, or From Dusk Till 1466 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,800 Dawn. I will have to still go with 1467 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:10,720 From Dusk Till Dawn because I saw that in a pretty formative 1468 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,440 age, you know, like getting into Tarantino and you're just 1469 01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:16,720 renting everything that its name is attached to. 1470 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,240 I didn't really know that you could do a movie like that 1471 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:23,960 where, you know, you could have a movie with two distinct 1472 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,520 halves, a really cool crime thriller for the first half and 1473 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,960 then a buck wild vampire movie in the 2nd. 1474 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:36,960 And they're, you know, stapled together with arguably the 1475 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:42,840 sexiest striptease or and sexy dance with Salma Hayek like, 1476 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,880 ever. I mean, I defy you to find me a 1477 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,120 scene that beats that. Yeah, I'm with you. 1478 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,440 I did really, really enjoy Sinners. 1479 01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:54,480 But when I was watching Sinners, that's what I just kept going 1480 01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:57,640 back to was I'm like, man, this is a lot like From dusk Till 1481 01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,800 Dawn because we have two distinct halves happening. 1482 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,600 And the vampire movies. Yeah, yeah. 1483 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:07,240 And but yeah, I just From Dusk Till Dawn to me doesn't get the 1484 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,400 the love or the respect that it deserves. 1485 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,040 I mean, it's got like, it's got its core, like cult fan base, 1486 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,840 but a lot of Tarantino fans don't, you know? 1487 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,920 I think what sort of hurts the film is unfortunately, 1488 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,720 Tarantino. I don't think his performance is 1489 01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,920 very good in the movie. He's very over the top, yeah. 1490 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,640 Isn't he what when he is in a movie, it kind of takes away 1491 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,600 from like, oh, I'm watching what I'm supposed to be watching, you 1492 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,280 know, quote UN quote movie. And now it's like, oh, I'm no 1493 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,960 longer watching a movie. I'm watching a Quentin Tarantino 1494 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,160 movie. Gotcha. 1495 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,000 When you know, when he shows up in like death proof as the 1496 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,440 bartender, it's like, Oh yeah, this is like a Quentin Tarantino 1497 01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:52,000 film as it wasn't an obvious already, but now it's sort of 1498 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,280 like, yeah, now he's trying to act and he's not a very good 1499 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,520 actor. Like stick to writing and 1500 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,360 directing. Like that's that's fine. 1501 01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,280 You could stay in your lane, but he's not a very good actor, and 1502 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,960 that's as a super big Tarantino. Fan I love life. 1503 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,440 But like in From Dusto Dawn, it just kind of seems like, you 1504 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:12,520 know, I don't know who else he would have cast, but he's sort 1505 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,160 of hurts the film a little bit. His performance is a little 1506 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,880 like, awkward. And also, you know, a lot of the 1507 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,320 special effects and stuff in the movie were relatively new, like 1508 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,040 the, the, the vampire transformations and when they're 1509 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:31,280 being staked and melting, you know, it's the product of its 1510 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,320 time. It looks like 19941995, you 1511 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:35,520 know, whatever the movie was made. 1512 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,400 And I think that hurts it a little bit too. 1513 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,720 But it's, it's also passable because, well, this is like a 1514 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,560 grindhouse type of film. It was sort of grindhouse before 1515 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,040 grindhouse, but in one movie rather than two directors making 1516 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,320 2 movies. But it sort of was a precursor 1517 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,560 of things to come. But I think also because it 1518 01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:00,680 defies most storytelling structures of like, you get two 1519 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,600 different kinds, two different genres in one film, and you 1520 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,440 don't get that with very many movies. 1521 01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:06,560 I think it throws a lot of people off. 1522 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:12,360 Yeah, it's, it's refreshing. Like I for me, like if, you 1523 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,240 know, if you like that kind of thing, like then you're like all 1524 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:17,680 in on it. But I can definitely see how it 1525 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,520 would turn some people off. I've got buddies who like the 1526 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,720 love the first half and then like as soon as the vampires 1527 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,040 show up, man, I'm I'm out. Or I've got buddies who hate the 1528 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,800 opening half and just want it to be a horror movie, like a 1529 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,480 schlocky, you know, B movie fighting vampires. 1530 01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:38,920 And I just I love the marriage of both of them. 1531 01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:42,840 And for the for the people who don't like, you know, how 1532 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,760 Tarantino acts in it, at least he gets, I mean, so you got to 1533 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,560 hold another hour, you know what I'm saying? 1534 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,800 So, you know. But yeah, I'm with you on From 1535 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,880 Dusk till Dawn over Sinners. Oh yeah. 1536 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,640 It's just because in my heart I'm a sleazy. 1537 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,960 I'm a lover of sleaze, I'm a lover of clock, I'm a lover of 1538 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:06,720 grindhouse, Dr. and B movies. And Sinners is classy and even I 1539 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,800 like that movie a lot. I bought the 4K. 1540 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,800 Yeah, you know, when it comes to schlock and B movie violence and 1541 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,280 gore and gross stuff, I would have. 1542 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,080 Picked that, you know, also, I think I mean, I'm going to be 42 1543 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,280 in June and I know we're like you said, we're close in age. 1544 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:27,680 We're very close in age seeing From Dusk Till dawn because I 1545 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,720 remember renting it on VHS when it when it first came out. 1546 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,080 So 95 on VHS. So I'm an 11 year old kid. 1547 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,120 They let rent that movie. Yeah. 1548 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:43,200 And like, there's constant sleeze and, you know, as a young 1549 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,040 boy, you're like, Oh my God. Like it really it's, it's like 1550 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,880 checking all the boxes. Like I have nudity, I have gore, 1551 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:55,920 I have like crazy violence just like so over the top. 1552 01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:00,480 And it like no pun intended, like it sinks its fangs into you 1553 01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:02,640 and you're just like, that's, it's, that's the shit. 1554 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,680 I I want more movies like that, you know? 1555 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,120 Are there more movies like this? You know, and that because it 1556 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,080 was a mainstream movie, you know, it was released like Air 1557 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,480 Max. It was put out in theaters. 1558 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,320 I don't know how well it did. It must have did done OK. 1559 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:17,760 I mean they did to direct video. Sequels and ATV show yeah, yeah. 1560 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,040 And ATV show much later, but, I mean, it must have made some 1561 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,480 kind of dents financially. It must have done something. 1562 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,280 But I think also, yeah, at the time, in the glut of the mid 1563 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,800 90s, you weren't really getting movies like that because 1564 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,480 everything had become sanitized. Yeah. 1565 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,240 So again, it was kind of like audiences at the time were more 1566 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:42,200 accustomed to cleaner horror. Thrillers were what they were 1567 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,320 calling them, not slashers, not just vampire movies. 1568 01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:47,720 That stuff had gone away. It was no longer the 80s. 1569 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,760 It was no longer the heyday of like, Wes Craven and David 1570 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,480 Cronenberg. I mean, like, that kind of 1571 01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,240 horror wouldn't really come back until like the late 90s, early 1572 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,440 2000s when it was kind of OK to be gross again. 1573 01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:01,560 Yeah, for sure. All right, next question. 1574 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,040 Also, 2 movies. Got to make you choose between 2 1575 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,200 movies. American movie or brutal 1576 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,720 massacre? I don't know if I've ever seen 1577 01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,400 brutal massacre. Oh, shit. 1578 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,680 OK. I just for some reason, I assume 1579 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:24,800 David Naughton. Oh, wow. 1580 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,160 OK, so it's definitely going to be American movie for you. 1581 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,480 I yeah, yeah. I got to send you a copy of 1582 01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:31,880 Brutal Massacre, bro. It'll change your life. 1583 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,640 I think, I mean, I think I'm familiar with it, I've just 1584 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,320 never seen it because it is a movie about making a movie. 1585 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:39,400 Right. Yes, yeah. 1586 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,240 But it's it's fictional, like it's not. 1587 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,280 It's not a real movie like American movie is a. 1588 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:47,160 Real, right, Because if because I definitely like movies about 1589 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,520 making movies, you know what I mean? 1590 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,920 Like if you would ask me like American Movie or Ed Wood, and 1591 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:53,880 then I wouldn't know what to tell. 1592 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:54,920 You. Yeah, Yeah. 1593 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,560 Deal with that. How about that? 1594 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,000 Yeah. Something like that because you 1595 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,560 know you have fictional versus reality. 1596 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,680 Like I love American movie, but I also love Ed Wood and it's 1597 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,360 actually my favorite Tim Burton film. 1598 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,680 Or you could even throw in like Tara Firmer is my favorite 1599 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,480 trauma movie because it's a trauma movie about making a 1600 01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:15,040 trauma movie. And that is, I would say that 1601 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:20,280 movie in particular was sort of the movie that made me want to 1602 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,320 make slow budget splatter movies. 1603 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:28,400 Dude we are simpatico 100%. I saw Terra Firmer when I was in 1604 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,200 high school. I bought the two disc DVD that 1605 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:36,560 Troma put out immediately while watching the special features. 1606 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,360 My best friends and I wrote the script for the first movie we 1607 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,520 made. We made a movie in high school 1608 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,680 called A Killer Night Out and it was because of Terra Firmer 1609 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:46,680 100%. Yeah. 1610 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,800 Oh, yeah. I, when I was in middle school, 1611 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,000 I got into trauma. Like I bought the book. 1612 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,120 You know, all I need to know about filmmaking. 1613 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,640 I learned Toxic Avenger. I read that book and I wrote a 1614 01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,360 book report about that book. Nice. 1615 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,240 And then you could write in your. 1616 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,840 I had an English class where you could write any, any persuasive 1617 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,800 speech topic you could choose. You know what I mean? 1618 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:14,160 Like, you got to persuade the class to either dislike 1619 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:19,040 something or like something. And so I wrote a glowing review 1620 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,480 of the movie Tara Firmer. Again, I was 12 years old. 1621 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,880 And so my opening, you know, statement was basically like, 1622 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,320 hey, you know, if you love movies with hardcore violence 1623 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,560 and gratuitous nudity, like, you'll love Tara Firmer. 1624 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,360 And you can hear a pin drop. But my teacher was horrified, 1625 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,960 you know? And so I give you my review 1626 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,440 about why Tara Firmer was so amazing and why you should watch 1627 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,000 it. And she sent me home with like, 1628 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,960 a note that my parents had to sign to acknowledge. 1629 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,880 Like, yes, my son is watching this kind of filth. 1630 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,280 You know, of course. But I should have gotten an A 1631 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,440 from my report. I think I was. 1632 01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:55,920 Disqualified or something, I don't remember. 1633 01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,200 I should have gotten an A because my persuasive speech led 1634 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,360 to at least two or three classmates wanting to rent my 1635 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,760 terror firm or DVD from me. Nice. 1636 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,080 I won. I won. 1637 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,200 Yeah. And so that that my same double 1638 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,880 disc DVD has been kicked around and handed around to multiple 1639 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,280 people that scratch the shit I've bought in every 1640 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,880 subsequence. You know, Blu-ray and special 1641 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,040 edition, We're getting that zombies of that movie. 1642 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,280 We're getting that super cool special edition is vinegar 1643 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,800 syndrome putting that out that I just saw it was announced like 2 1644 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,360 days ago or something and I was like I already. 1645 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,800 Pre-ordered it I. Was like, yeah, but I bookmarked 1646 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,760 it. I didn't pre-order it yet 1647 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,280 because, you know, Christmas was tough, but, you know, I, I. 1648 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:39,200 Pre-order that sucker because 4K Terra firmer handled 1649 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,960 professionally by vinegar syndrome. 1650 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,200 Like, great, because the Blu-ray that Troma put out isn't the 1651 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:49,200 greatest looking transfer. It's a little washed out. 1652 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:54,440 And they took the aspect ratio and they squeezed it to make it 1653 01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:56,520 full frame. So you're getting stuff at the 1654 01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,280 bottom and top cropped off. And as a, as a, as a movie, as 1655 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,800 a, as a person who's seen that movie multiple times, I know 1656 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,480 what's missing. Yeah, You know, I could tell 1657 01:27:05,480 --> 01:27:08,680 easily just by looking at my TVI was like, hey, there should be 1658 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:14,120 like, like text at the bottom here or like, you know, there's 1659 01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,160 jokes throughout the movie where like boom mics like. 1660 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,640 Dip in, dip in, Yeah. But that's part of the joke. 1661 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,080 It's not a mistake. Yeah, it's part of the joke of 1662 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,400 like, hey, this is a film crew, a crappy film crew making a 1663 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,240 crappy movie. So of course the boom mic is 1664 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,520 going to be visible in multiple shots. 1665 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,200 That's all ingrained into the film. 1666 01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:33,680 So the fact they cropped it, now you don't see that boom mic 1667 01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:34,800 anymore. You're missing jokes. 1668 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,640 Yeah, and that's a bummer. So holding the text, like I 1669 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,320 said, like when the text at the bottom gets cropped out, you 1670 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,600 can't read it. And it's like, oh, you guys, you 1671 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:47,440 kind of fumble this release. Hopefully vinegar syndromes just 1672 01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:49,560 blows everything out of the water and then we're like, this 1673 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:53,480 is the new definitive. Bad boy, it needs a definitive 1674 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,720 version. The only regret or my only thing 1675 01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,600 that they didn't do was include the R rated cut as a bonus 1676 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,160 feature on a Blu-ray because I don't know if you've ever seen 1677 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,880 the R rated cut of tariff. It's on that two disc, yeah. 1678 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,680 I don't think it is. Well, it was available 1679 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:10,840 separately as a two. It is. 1680 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,360 You had to get them separate. It's not on there as a bonus 1681 01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:14,920 feature, but there are deleted scenes. 1682 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:20,200 But the R rated version is only like 98 minutes or 92 minutes. 1683 01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,640 So it's missing like 15 to 20 minutes of material. 1684 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:28,240 And we're talking like from the get go, like the woman who was 1685 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,920 reading a book and the killer rips open her stomach and rips 1686 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,880 out the fetus. There's a freeze frame. 1687 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,280 And Lloyd steps in because they shot him on a green screen. 1688 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,920 And so now he's he's in the movie talking to you. 1689 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,120 And so he's like, hey, you know, like you're watching the R rated 1690 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,520 MPAA approved version of Terra Firmer. 1691 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,680 And so you're going to see me throughout the movie explaining 1692 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,120 to you what it is that you're missing out on just by the 1693 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,440 unrated director's cut. Yeah. 1694 01:28:54,440 --> 01:28:55,880 And it's. Glorious. 1695 01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,800 There's a scene later on where, you know, Lloyd, being the blind 1696 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,560 director, goes into a bathroom and starts peeing on stuff and, 1697 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,680 you know, it's urine is spraying all over the place. 1698 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,640 So again, when he steps in the bathroom, there's a freeze frame 1699 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,720 and it cuts to Lloyd, you know, in the Troma office. 1700 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,000 And he's like, to illustrate to you what I'm doing in this scene 1701 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,760 here, I had a bucket of peas. And here is, you know, one of 1702 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,880 the cast members from the scene of the movie. 1703 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,880 And he's like with a handful of peas, throwing them at the cast 1704 01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,080 member like I'm peeing on. Yes. 1705 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,760 And so that's how the movie plays out is significant. 1706 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,280 You know, all the nudity is cut out. 1707 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,080 All the Gora's cut out. It's like you're watching ATV 1708 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,040 cut. I need it just for the gags 1709 01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,400 though. I need that version because. 1710 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,720 Yeah, gags are hilarious because like I said, they they it would 1711 01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,960 cut to Lloyd. Either he walks into the frame 1712 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,640 like shot separately in a green screen but now he's in the 1713 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,600 movie, or it's them cutting to the Troma building and he's 1714 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:58,880 doing shenanigans to re enact what you should be seeing but 1715 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,280 got cut. And so I wish that that version 1716 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,760 could have been included on the Blu-ray release just as a bonus 1717 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,160 feature. Like it doesn't have to be in 1718 01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,280 4K, didn't have to transfer all that, but just stick it on there 1719 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:11,640 as a bonus feature. Like what's the harm? 1720 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,000 Right, I need it and I'm going to. 1721 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,040 EBay, it's hard to find now. Nowadays it's really hard to 1722 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,120 find. I regret because when I started 1723 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,760 doing for Masterpiece Theatre back in like 20/17/2018, I would 1724 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,640 be at the Troma booth selling copies of Masterpiece Theater 1725 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,080 coming at the end of the weekend. 1726 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,720 Because this was unpaid. Like volunteering at the trauma 1727 01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,200 booth at conventions, right? It just means that you're a 1728 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,280 volunteer. You pay your own way, your own 1729 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,360 gas, buy buy your own food. You pay for your own hotel room 1730 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,520 and at the end of the weekend you get rewarded. 1731 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,360 But you can grab a couple DVDs off the table, you know, you get 1732 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,200 like 3 to 5, you know, and they're freebies for your hard 1733 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,120 work. But I also was making money by 1734 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,680 selling copies of from Ashley's Theatre. 1735 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,640 So he was balancing out, you know, I was making money doing 1736 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,120 my own stuff, selling my own stuff, but also I would get 1737 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,760 freebies. But for a minute they did have 1738 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,560 like some R rated terror firmers on the table and I passed them 1739 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,880 up thinking, oh, they'll always have those, right? 1740 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:12,160 Not the case because after one particular show, they never got 1741 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,520 him in again. And so I would ask the guy, his 1742 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,800 name is Ron. And he's kind of like, you know, 1743 01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:22,040 the, the leader of the Troma booth for Midwest conventions 1744 01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:23,760 and stuff. I asked him one time, I was 1745 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,840 like, so do you think you'll ever get any more R rated terror 1746 01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,720 farmers? And he was like, I don't know. 1747 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,520 I mean, they don't really. What we had was what we had for 1748 01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,120 a long time and then once we kind of sold out. 1749 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,600 I don't think they're making it. Yeah, because it's like it goes 1750 01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,520 out of print and it's. Essentially, you know, trauma 1751 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,960 operates month by month with a monthly budget. 1752 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,400 You know what I mean? So let's say their monthly 1753 01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:50,440 budget is like a couple $1000. Are they going to pay to 1754 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:55,720 manufacture copies of an older movie on DVD, or are they going 1755 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,720 to use the same money to put out new releases? 1756 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,280 Exactly. They're going to put out new 1757 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,720 releases because not guaranteed that that dozen copies of our 1758 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,960 rated tariff firm are going to sell right away. 1759 01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:10,520 They might sell over the course of time, you know, one to two 1760 01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,760 years over time. But those new releases that they 1761 01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,520 invest money into, those will probably fly off the shelf. 1762 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,400 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 1763 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,960 And that's why. So that's the whole argument 1764 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,680 with physical media is like when something comes out, you 1765 01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,000 especially an indie or, you know, low budget movie, snatch 1766 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,160 it up because it's not going to just, it's not just going to be 1767 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:33,680 there forever. You can't just be like, yeah, 1768 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,280 and then I'll grab it six months from now, or I'll grab it 1769 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,640 whenever. Like they're making a limited 1770 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,720 run and then they disappear. And if you're lucky enough to 1771 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,400 have one, you're lucky enough to have one, so. 1772 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:47,800 Yeah, Snicker Syndrome will put out like 2000 units of one 1773 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,960 particular title. Sometimes that's all they're 1774 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:52,680 like allotted, you know what I mean? 1775 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:57,880 Like because they make a license with the company or the 1776 01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,520 producer, whoever the distributor who owns the title 1777 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,880 of that movie. And so we're only allotted 2000 1778 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,280 units or 1500 units. And once they sell out of those 1779 01:33:07,480 --> 01:33:09,880 again, they either have to strike up a whole new licensing 1780 01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,880 deal and order 1500 units again or 2000 units again. 1781 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,760 And sometimes it's not worth it because they may have sold out 1782 01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:20,440 of those 1500 units or 2000 units the first time, but maybe 1783 01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:23,880 the second go around, they only sell like 500 copies because 1784 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,840 those were just the lingerers or the people who get in the 1st 1785 01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,200 run. So, but sometimes that's just 1786 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,200 all they're allotted. And sometimes that's what the 1787 01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:36,680 number is picked by the, by the distributor, by the producer, by 1788 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:38,640 7 films. Recently put out a whole batch 1789 01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,760 of Russ Meyer movies. And I don't know if they have, I 1790 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,520 don't know if those are limited. That kind of seems like that's 1791 01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,520 going to be part of their library for some time because 1792 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,480 they struck a pretty expensive deal. 1793 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,920 But with liquor syndrome, sometimes, yes, those movies, 1794 01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:55,680 you got to get them first a month because that's when their 1795 01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,360 new releases drop. It's the first of the month I 1796 01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,320 missed out on. They put out in their partner 1797 01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,880 label, they put out this Western that I really love called The 1798 01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,040 Great Silence, and I missed out on it. 1799 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,280 It's a fantastic western. Like if you like the Hateful 8 1800 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,360 angle Unchained, well, The Great Silence is a spaghetti Western 1801 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:20,640 that you could totally tell that Tarantino absorbed like a sponge 1802 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:25,960 and spat it back out to you all Tarantino, you know, eyes. 1803 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:31,600 It's it's it's the precursor to the hateful 8 like, but it's 1804 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,960 like this really obscure spaghetti Western starring crap. 1805 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,880 What's his name? I don't not look here. 1806 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,040 Klaus Ginsky. OK, he's the main bad. 1807 01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,320 Guy in this the crawl space guy? Yeah, yeah. 1808 01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,640 He is fantastic, and it's a Great Western if you like 1809 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,920 spaghetti Westerns. The whole thing takes place in 1810 01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:55,200 the snow, and so it's like, Oh yeah, Tarantino has seen this. 1811 01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,680 He was making marks, yeah. Right, He didn't think the 1812 01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,680 general public would ever get this on Blu-ray. 1813 01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,880 But not I mean, but they they sold out man. 1814 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,680 And I was like, damn it because I have a DVD, but it's a bootleg 1815 01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,920 DVD 10 years ago. We've never, I don't think got 1816 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,800 an official like cleaned up 4K print. 1817 01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:20,000 That sucker sold out on day one. You just Sol man, now you got to 1818 01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,520 fucking hover over eBay and hope some Jackass sells it and 1819 01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:24,720 doesn't know what they have, you know? 1820 01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:27,680 They know. They know, yeah. 1821 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,840 They do. I'm not paying $100. 1822 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,200 For it, the scalpers, yeah, they buy 7 copies of it and then sell 1823 01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,520 them, you know. Yeah, 100 bucks each. 1824 01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,960 Dick heads. All right, last question is a 1825 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,400 scream Queen question for you. Linnea Quigley. 1826 01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:47,040 Barbara Crampton. I love both. 1827 01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,240 But all four of them, I love all four of them just. 1828 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:54,680 Yeah, I will. I will pick Linnea just because 1829 01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,640 Return of the Living Dead. I go back and forth between 1830 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,760 Return of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead. 1831 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,800 Those are my two favorite films and I love them equally for 1832 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,480 different reasons. Return of the Living Dead is 1833 01:36:07,480 --> 01:36:11,440 like a satirical comedy, although the horror works too. 1834 01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:14,520 Yes. And Dawn of the Dead is an 1835 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:20,800 action horror, like black comedy, you know, And it's more 1836 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:25,680 like, it's fun, it's funny, but the horror is more like, you 1837 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:29,040 know, social. And it has a statement that it's 1838 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,800 wanting to say. But Return of the Living Dead is 1839 01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,280 pure popcorn. Like, yeah, punk rock 1840 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,800 entertainment. It's punk rock entertainment. 1841 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,080 And so I love both for different reasons. 1842 01:36:40,440 --> 01:36:44,560 But I I will, you know, say that Linnea, she's also been in more 1843 01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:48,160 movies that I genuinely love, like Night of the Demons and 1844 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,520 Silent Night, Deadly Night. And I even like, you know, the 1845 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:54,000 Charles Band, or not Charles Band, but the David de Coto film 1846 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,040 released by Full Moon Creepazoid. 1847 01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:57,200 Yeah, Creepazoids for sure. Yeah. 1848 01:36:57,480 --> 01:36:59,560 That's a dumb like alien RIP off. 1849 01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:00,800 I don't care man, it's a fun one. 1850 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,520 Yeah, it's a good one. And it was not like 3 days, you 1851 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:04,760 know, And she's, she's great in it. 1852 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,760 Yeah, I reviewed that on the channel years back. 1853 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:12,920 I'm, I'm also with you. I'm a Linnea Quigley Mark for 1854 01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,520 sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1855 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,200 Although yeah, still Barbara Crampton though, I mean, re 1856 01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:21,120 Animator, Castle Freak, you can't go wrong with those. 1857 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,560 Fantastic. And those movies are fantastic. 1858 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:29,240 Even like small stuff like you're next, you know, I mean, 1859 01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,400 she's amazing in your next. Yeah, I really, I've been really 1860 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,680 enjoying watching her, like comeback career over the past 1861 01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,320 couple of years, like was in that movie Jacob's wife Jacob's. 1862 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,120 Wife. Yeah, with Larry Fessen, Ben. 1863 01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:42,800 Right. That was a really good movie. 1864 01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,200 Yeah. And I know she's been producing 1865 01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,800 things like the Castle Freak remake, which was cool. 1866 01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:49,680 She did. Suitable flesh. 1867 01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,360 Yeah, with Jo Lynch. She plays Suitable Flesh, so 1868 01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:56,600 even when she's not on camera, her, the movies that she's like 1869 01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,680 betting on and producing are really good too. 1870 01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,400 Yeah. So, you know, I, I've been 1871 01:38:02,440 --> 01:38:06,480 really enjoying seeing like that side of her, like creative 1872 01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:10,520 career. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's, she's 1873 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:11,560 rad. I think she had something to do 1874 01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:12,680 with The Creepshow series as well. 1875 01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,080 I know she was in an episode but I think she had some sort of 1876 01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:19,720 like it seems like. She's been working a lot with 1877 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,400 Shutter, you know, like movie I think with Shutter produced and 1878 01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,800 Castle Freak maybe even been Shutter produced as well. 1879 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,880 So I think she's just in with Shutter and so it doesn't, it 1880 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,120 doesn't surprise me that she had something to do with Creepshow. 1881 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:36,440 Yeah, I suppose since we've gone through all the hot takes and 1882 01:38:36,440 --> 01:38:38,960 I've picked your brain forever and we had to deal with 1883 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,000 technical issues and all of that stuff. 1884 01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:46,280 Before we wrap this up, Sir, just hit everybody that's 1885 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:50,520 listening, watching whatever, with where to find you, how to 1886 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:54,720 get ahold of all of your stuff, where to watch it and, you know, 1887 01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,000 do the old shameless plug and then I'll let you go. 1888 01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,960 You'll live your life, Sir. All right, well, I mean, it's 1889 01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:01,760 just my name. Addison Bennick on like 1890 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,000 Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. I mean, there's probably like 1891 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,440 under score on Twitter or something or Instagram, but it's 1892 01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:10,000 just my name. It's really easy to find. 1893 01:39:10,440 --> 01:39:13,000 I sell all my stuff on eBay, including like, you know, 1894 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,360 compilation collections of my movies to watch in a rainy 1895 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,960 afternoon. And Psych Wave 1 and 2 are on 1896 01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,960 there. You know, there's Smash Theater 1897 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,480 1 and 2 Magnum Opus. All those Blu rays and DVDs are 1898 01:39:23,480 --> 01:39:27,320 on my eBay page. There's tons of free content. 1899 01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,920 Magnet Opus is free on YouTube, plus all my rainy afternoon 1900 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,200 stuff, plus the music videos and shorts and things that I've 1901 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,280 never even really made it to physical media, but they're 1902 01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,160 there and I've been doing this a long time. 1903 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:42,400 All this stuff is still there. You know, I go to conventions 1904 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,480 like Cinema Wasteland in Strongsville, OH, every April 1905 01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:48,200 and October. I go to Days of the Dead in 1906 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,760 Chicago every once in a while. You know, whenever there's a 1907 01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,240 convention, whenever there's like, whenever I can afford it 1908 01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,360 really, because it's an investment. 1909 01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,120 I go to Gross Fest in Pittsburgh every year, every August when 1910 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,200 they have it. That's a really fun convention. 1911 01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:05,880 That's it's made by indie fans. Like for the indie fans, yes, 1912 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,840 you know these places, they, they're great because they let 1913 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,440 you submit your movies for free to play. 1914 01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,440 Play over the weekend like Cinema Wasteland and Gross Fest. 1915 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:18,760 You know I can submit any silly project I want and almost 1916 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:19,960 guarantee they're going to play it. 1917 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,520 I love that. Yeah. 1918 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,920 And there's no submission, you know, there's nothing there's. 1919 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,640 No film freeway business going on. 1920 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:26,560 No, no, no. Yeah. 1921 01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,680 You know, unlike Horror Hound or Days of the Dead when they want 1922 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,680 $60.00 just to reject you. Yeah. 1923 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:33,960 You know. That hurts real bad, let me just 1924 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,840 say. That sucks, but yeah. 1925 01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:38,160 So these places are free. You know, if you're an 1926 01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:40,400 independent filmmaker and you want to send your place, you 1927 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,080 don't even have to go. You don't even have to attend 1928 01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,400 these places. They just they want movies. 1929 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,000 They because these these conventions, they go from 1930 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,160 Friday, they start like four or five in the afternoon and they 1931 01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,520 go all the way till Sunday before or five in the afternoon. 1932 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,800 And they just want movies to screen all throughout the 1933 01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,680 weekend. And you know, it's not up to 1934 01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,360 them. They don't pick and choose based 1935 01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:08,000 on like preference or it's not a popularity contest. 1936 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,480 It's it's just they, they want to show your indie stuff. 1937 01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,760 That's what they want. And you can submit it for free 1938 01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,640 and you know, they're old school, so you got to send a DVD 1939 01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,800 or Blu-ray for like Gross Fest is fine, but like Cinema 1940 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,800 Wasteland is DVD only, no digital shit. 1941 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,520 They're so old school that they just don't do digital. 1942 01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:32,000 And so but you're going to get your movie play and you're going 1943 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:33,840 to be in attendance. You don't have to be there. 1944 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:37,080 You don't have to have a booth selling your movie because 1945 01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,640 people are going to go check it out because one of these 1946 01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,600 conventions, they get their autographs, they buy their 1947 01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,600 stuff, but then they have time to kill. 1948 01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,800 They have a couple beers, maybe get some nachos or some hot 1949 01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,000 dogs. And then they go to the 1950 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:50,360 screening room and see what's playing. 1951 01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,840 And you know, even if you're not there shilling your wares, 1952 01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,720 they're gonna, they're gonna watch a chunk of your movie, 1953 01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:58,880 5-10 minutes of your movie. And then if it's memorable 1954 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,240 enough, it's it's weird enough, crazy enough, they'll remember 1955 01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:02,240 your movie. Right. 1956 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,280 Absolutely. So do that anybody listening 1957 01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,640 watching submit your movies. Huh. 1958 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,040 It's been awesome having you, dude. 1959 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,920 For real. Yeah, despite, like I said, 1960 01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,520 technical issues that drove me insane to the brink of. 1961 01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:19,800 No worries, man. Haven't. 1962 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:25,160 But you're the man and I, I can't thank you enough for doing 1963 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,640 this. On that note, I suppose we 1964 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,480 should probably get going because after all, there's a lot 1965 01:42:29,480 --> 01:42:31,520 of movies out there and somebody's got to watch them, so 1966 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,920 why not us, right? Yeah, absolutely. 1967 01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:47,160 Thank you for listening to the Deep Cut podcast. 1968 01:42:51,480 --> 01:42:55,600 We sure had a blast trying to make you all laugh. 1969 01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:06,000 You gotta set your reminders and get ready to geek 'cause there's 1970 01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,880 a brand new episode every two. 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