Hold on to your belts and also your hats and basically.
Any other accessory you've got. Right now on the Deep Cut
podcast, we're talking to Triple Lord Mind.
Oh. Yeah, that's right, Walter.
It's time for a brand new episode of the Deep Cut Podcast
with your host Rotten Roger DeMarco.
And today I'm doing something a little bit different.
I am bringing on a guest to talk about their music and all of
that fun stuff. So my interviewer, my
interviewee, my Co host this week is none other than the
triple Lord mind. That's right, it's me, the
triple Lord mind back at it for the first time in the cabin.
And I just want to say you're doing a great job.
I'll take this. I appreciate this.
Make sure you show the camera it's real.
It's a real Lincoln Lincoln dollar.
That is Donald Trump. No, it's not.
Don't ever say that he will not be on our money.
But that's right, folks out there watching, listening,
however you're consuming this podcast, it is a great honour of
mine to be doing. I'll take this as well, an
interview with an up and coming rap artist in the local scene
here doing doing big things in our small little pond,
attempting to branch out. And so I figured with this
podcast, the way that I do these interviews, buddy, is I don't
necessarily want to talk a ton about what it is you do.
I want to let people get to know who you are as a human being
outside of the music. But that being said, I, I
imagine there's some folks out there tuning in that don't
exactly know who you are. So we are going to talk about
music for a while to give them a little bit of a taste of what
they can expect when they listen to you.
So is that, is that good? Does that sound like something
you're down with? That floats my boat.
Let's get on with it. But the first?
Take this Easter basket. I get $5.
A question might be nice. But.
Sir. OK, so let's just jump right in.
When did you start making music? That is a hazy question to
answer for sure. So the first album I ever
released, Mr. Demark. Oh.
Oh yeah, there's an O. There's an O good job on
standing your ground on your name and not letting fame and
money persuade you. That's right.
That's my real name, Rodger DeMarco.
Yes, I've probably been making music since 2022 when I probably
first made my first song, but my first album I ever made released
October 20th 2024 which is devoid which don't listen to
that. It's only a year old.
Two years old. Two years old now, yeah.
Good job learning about years. Learning about numbers and I'll
take that as well. Yes, So 2024, that album is very
bad. In my opinion.
The beats are the best part. And that's because I used AI to
make the beats because yeah, I didn't know how to make beats
back then, but now I do. Now I make my own beats.
Everything after Devoid, I made my own beats.
So yeah. All right, So what would you say
some of your major influences are when it comes to making
music? I got a good idea of what.
At least one with the the charm and the face paint and the
dreadlocks perhaps. Yeah, so Insane Clown Posse.
Dundap, Dundap. Storming here.
In the cabin. What?
Accidental simultaneous speak. I'll take it.
But yes, it's it's storming here at the cabin, which fits the
vibe perfectly well because you said Insane Clown Posse is one
of your many influences. I'm a list off rapid fire
influences, so we got Insane Clown Posse of course.
Absolutely already the rugged man up in here 1. 100%.
Chino XL. Yeah.
Hopson yeah, I do listen to frequently Eminem, which people
like to hate on Eminem because he's the top charter man, but
you cannot argue that he isn't the best.
He is. Lyrically, one of the best.
Him and cannabis are the best they could.
Hannibal. Cannabis.
Hannibal man, I'm a can. I'm a can.
Tannibal. Tan Man, Hannibal.
That's a tangible handed. That's a tangible handed
mechanical panibal to Sham cashing into cannon.
I love cannabis, not that kind of cannabis, but one of the one
of the dopest lyricist out there.
Cannabis. Yeah, for real.
Anybody who can go toe to toe with LL Cool J and make LL Cool
J second guess his own lyrical ability, you know cannabis took
it to him. Cannabis didn't win that bat
because of how dope LL is, but they went back and forth for a
long time. And I feel like cannabis would
have won if it weren't for the mainstream idness that is LL
Cool J. If 100 million, let's just say
100 million people here, a so so diss track and then 100,000
people here, the best diss track ever.
Who do you think is going to win?
Person who's got the attention or the person who's got the
Penman ship? Yeah, that reminds me of Money
LL Cool J or Not LL Cool JKR S1 when he went toe to toe with
Nellie. He clearly beat the brakes off
in Nellie, but Nellie was so big that it was like who The Who the
F is KRS-one. Nellie's the man.
And it was like you, people that listen to Nellie are not hip hop
heads, your mainstream heads. So that's very similar with
Eminem and Insane Clown Posse where Eminem only dropped few
bars, hit her and tether. But IC PS got nothing but AB
thing yes and they got please don't hate me which is just
funny until the end where it's a diss you know?
And then the whole slim Anus thing.
Yes, Slim Anus. Yeah, from the Juggalo show
back. In the night or not, that's cut.
That is a deep cut. Don't get a paper cut.
And I won't. I'm going to Can I have it?
Can I has this? Do you?
Do you deserve? It I do, I've earned it.
OK, maybe on the next question. So that brings me to style wise.
What do you classify your style as?
Because listing off all of these different influences, you would,
you would think that you're going to dabble, tiptoe a little
bit, just a little sprinkle of that horror core in there.
But primarily the people that you listed as influences are
lyrical heavyweights. So.
So how would you classify your style?
I see myself really as a mix between everything I try to.
Have a mix betwixt. A mix betwixt pretty good rhyme.
I got. I got.
You yeah, mix betwixt all of these people.
I like to have the Super dense rhyme schemes and the really
nice flows, but then also have like the Juggalo style horror
core. But I don't go full carnival
because that's just kind of biting at that point.
But you know, I I like to have a lot of rhymes like plastic and
plastic face. It fascinates and stuff on.
You'll see a lot of that on Unhinged, my newest album, very
by the time of recording this. Yeah, very dense.
It is very dense lyrically and to where I I've heard that album
and those songs numerous times, but you pick up on new things on
every new listen. It's very close to like an
already the Rugged Man where you're like, whoa, whoa, OK, did
he let me rewind for a second. Let me catch that bar and it you
know, and I don't want to just like kiss your butt because
you're here in the cabin. And that'd be weird because I'm
only 16. Yeah, and that's not legal, not
I'm not good, but. You know, good job knowing the
law. I do know the law, and I'll take
that dollar just to, you know, uphold the law.
Yes, uphold my wallet. But I think that for your age
and for as short a period of time as you've been rhyming, the
evolution is tenfold. If you listen to your very first
song when you like, you didn't even understand A4 count and how
to land on beat and things like that.
And you were just like, I'm making raps now compared to
where you're at now. It's it's crazy the growth.
And that just goes to show how dedicated you are.
And I more people out there need to find you on all of the
platforms that they can find you and start following you because
you drop music so often. You even do a series where you
where you. Do bit Sunday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate the tenfold
compliments. So here I have a one fold from
the basket. I'll take this.
But yeah, I try. I try to get better, as everyone
should at their craft. You try to get better every time
you do something. And I do agree that the
evolution from my first ever album to my newest one,
Unhinged, is like astronomical. It sounds like a completely
different artist. My first ever song, you brought
that up. It was literally called my first
ever rap song. And.
That's real original. That it yes.
It was actually my second song. That's a lie.
It was my first, but I just went on to YouTube and I looked up
Eminem, never enough instrumental because I really
liked that beat and it was the worst song ever.
Think about really bad. That's it.
We got it. It wasn't on beat or anything,
and I just rapped about my favorite rappers.
So basically everyone I listed earlier.
Yeah, hey, I'll tell you. You know, like I said, everybody
starts somewhere. I can remember when I decided to
start making music. We had a karaoke machine and we
had two CDs that had instrumentals on them.
We had an Ice Cube War and Peace that had like 2 instrumentals
and then we had a Bone Thugs thing that had the instrumental
for the song Body Rot. And I didn't know how to land on
beat whatsoever. But I would write really, really
crappy lyrics and then I would record myself rapping over Body
Rot and I must have done 20 different songs, air quotes for
the people listening that can't see me just trying to figure out
how to do that, you know, because there was no, there was
no YouTube or anything back then.
So you just kind of had to listen to raps and dissect them
and figure out like, I'm supposed to land here, you know,
then this is what a bar is and whatever this is, what a chorus
is, etcetera. So yeah, like I said, everybody
starts somewhere, man. You say, yeah, you're saying
that you had to start working on a karaoke machine while, like,
today, when you start out rapping, you'll have a computer
and that can do everything and you can have unlimited tracks.
You can have unlimited everything.
I feel like it's way easier to. It's the easiest it's ever been
to start making independent music right now than it was back
when you started in what, like 9590?
Whatever when you were 14, right?
It was like 98 when I started making music.
So that's a perfect segue because I wanted to ask you #1
how do you handle your production?
Because like you said, everything now is all digital.
And even in my heyday of making music, I was using things like a
Boss BR 8, so like an 8 track recorder on to like these weird
zip discs. And I didn't graduate into like
computer hat like people using Pro Tools and stuff until I was
in my 20s. So now production wise with just
a computer and a microphone, you're able to build out a full
studio. So I want to kind of talk to you
about production from the beginning, like the conception
of, I have this idea all the way through making a beat, recording
it. What's what's that like in the
digital age for the youngsters out there who are trying to,
like, get into making music? All right, so for the digital
age, the first ever like DAWI use that I can remember I used
for a song. Called Doll.
I like that. That's all that's I'll take it.
So when I first used what I can remember using, I don't remember
recording my first ever song. It's because I was probably so
high on ketamine at the time. But the first song I remember
recording. He's ripped out of his gourd on
ketamine. Yeah.
Can I get a pal? Yeah, pal.
Yeah. The first song I ever remember
recording. What?
I forgot the name. My first song, Metamorphosis.
OK, I remember I used AI to make a beat, which it's fine because
I'm not making money from that song, but I used Audacity or
Audio City. It's audacity.
Audacity. I put the beat in there and I
recorded the full song, start to finish, no punches.
And I kept tripping up. So I kept messing up.
And then I came downstairs where you were at and you had tape
head over, you had Dylan weeks over and I was like, how do I I
keep messing up? And then you brought me into the
beautiful world of cutting in and out, which I didn't know was
a thing you could do while making music.
I thought you had to. Do it all at once.
Yeah, but you taught me how to punch in and then copy and paste
which audacity is literally the. Worst, it's terrible, but it's
free. It is free.
So yeah, but there's plenty of free softwares that are way
better than Audacity even, and then as just like an audio
workstation for editing audio and stuff.
So what I graduated to using for devoid was a free program called
Waveform Traction 13. That's a long title for a DAW.
Yeah, it's a Dollar Tree tuk. A.
Dollar Tree tuk, you know this no means really long name in
Lebanese. I did not know that are you make
that sounds made-up. No, that's real.
A Dollar Tree tuk. We've broken the producer.
A Dollar Tree tuk. Producer.
Given the money up. She caught that, so then I
started using waveform traction 13 and I.
It started. How many songs did you do using
that? I I so I did the entirety of
Devoid Devoid Extended and Bad Omen on Waveform Traction 13, so
about 28 songs. So you figured it out pretty
pretty well. Yeah, but the problem is it's
really clunky. You got to click a bunch of
buttons to make new tracks and to export stuff.
And I didn't really know that courses and verses were supposed
to be on different tracks. So if you listen to my older
stuff, Bad Omen and Devoid, you'll hear that the verses and
the courses have the exact same working, it's just I have a
different voice. I'll tell you, when you're doing
this stuff all by yourself and you don't have a producer, you
put on many hats to do it. You were making the beat.
I don't wear hats. I got, I got dreads, my dreads.
On got the Super cool dreads. I have to wear hats because I
don't have dreads, but I am bald.
I have no hair. It's gone.
So, but wearing many hats and making everything all on your
own, bald on your own. And I, I want to stress this for
the folks out there that they would assume, especially people
that are in the know and know that I used to make music, that
they would assume that I had some hand in helping you write
or producing for you or running any of the recording equipment.
This was all something that you had decided you wanted to do on
your own. No, you beat me ruthlessly.
Yes, with a belt. Yeah, and many thatches and
pitches. Thatches go outside and pick a
switch. A switch?
Yeah, switch thatches and pitches.
So I can slice you up, but I mean, this was all you doing
everything, figuring everything out.
You're watching YouTube videos, figuring out these DA WS and
stuff. So learning from the ground up
with all of those different things that you had to do, it's
not easy. So eventually, you know,
eventually you get the hang of it.
It's just like any editing software or any program.
You have to kind of you have to do it wrong a bunch before you
do it right. Bat Omen.
Bat omen sounds good to me, but. All right, Tanner Thornton.
You know I mean. He's probably watching and.
If you are. You know.
Thanks for watching and listening.
Here. That dollars for you, OK.
So yeah, that being said, on the production wise, anything else
you want to talk about because you moved on to a different DAW?
Yeah. Yeah.
So right now, right now currently I'm using Reaper,
which it's basically Pro Tools, but you can customize it as much
as you want and it's 10 times cheaper to think Pro Tools is
like $500 and Reapers just 60 bucks.
So it's a lot of money for a kid who didn't have a job and made
trash music that no one wanted to buy.
So a lot of begging, a lot of robbing and poaching and.
Lemonade stands, Yes, and. And a lot of stabbings just for
fun to motivate me. So now that you use Reaper.
Oh it's way way better, So much more intuitive and you can put
as many effects on something as you want without having to it's
and it's a one time purchase. It's not a subscription, which a
lot of people don't like subscriptions.
Yeah, you don't like subscriptions because if it's an
auto deduct and you don't happen to have that 60 bucks in your
bank or that 12 bucks or whatever, then you overdraft and
then they screws you even more. Than you can't buy Cadbury eggs
anymore for your kids to eat dinner.
That's true. You can't.
You're going to have to eat rat toes.
It's a small meal. You got to get a lot of rat
toes. Yeah, OK.
I don't even. OK, so the next question, you
just said that your your newest album is unhinged.
Unhinged. It's my best album so far.
And so the sound of that is what?
Sound of that is very I wanted to do something really horror
core and as triple Lord mine my whole shtick is that I have 3
personalities. Ryder, really, really good Ryder
activity, a ninja doctor kicks a lot, which is like a Sir mix a
lot kind of thing. And the last one, Kaitis, who is
the serial killer kind of guy. So it's like a slim Slim Shady
personality thingy. But I wanted to go super deep
into horror core because a lot of my friends and people who I
share my music with a horror core people.
So I was like, I'll make this for them.
And for me it's a sequel to Bad Omen because I have a thing
called collectibles that are like basically made for merch.
Yeah. And this, this was put out by
you, but you're affiliated with a label at the moment.
Yeah, I'm affiliated with Scattered Intestines and Co,
partnered with myself Dreaded Records, the company that I
made. That's not even a company
because but I'm wearing that merch right now.
If you want to buy this merch, link in the description Triple
Lord 9. Yes, yeah.
I don't know the. I don't even know the URLs.
It's a, it's a 4th wall, but yeah, it's there.
It'll be, it'll be in the description that's in the fire.
Oh. It's not you.
Better get it out, Get it out. That's OK.
Pristine, unscathed. So that that brings me to your
next big project that you have either started on or you're
getting ready to start on. So what is the next?
What are the next big things that you have coming up?
So the next big, big album that I've planned on is going to be
the third installment into the D Lo trilogy.
It starts with devoid, then Limbo, which is one of my best
albums, and then this all elusive third installment, which
the name will not be revealed here.
All right, because I don't want to.
That's fine, you don't have to, but they just so they know
something new is coming in. Something big.
As big as my house, three stories and my Wiener.
With a fire pole down the center.
That's what I call my Wiener. I have no comment on that but.
Thank you. When?
That went behind me. When can people expect this
unnamed album? It will drop October 20th, 2027
or 202026. Yes, yeah, because Devoid came
out October 20th, 2024, Limbo October 20th 2025 and now Blank
2026201020 1022. 10 Nice. And is this so?
This is a big project. So this is an LP, not an EP.
This is an LP, we'll have 16 tracks. 16 tracks.
Do you have any plans in between for any EPS or anything before
that? I have a concert exclusive EP
that's coming out that is going to just be at my concert that
you guys won't know where it's at because we're not going to
release the address online. Screw new and what else we got
is a compilation, a collaboration.
Collaboration with me and my main man, Money Boy.
Yeah, with me the the dad arson trait.
Arson trait. Yeah, that.
So how did that, how did that officially come about?
Because like I was saying, I wanted to stress I had nothing
to do with your other albums. I did do a verse for you on
Devoid because it was like, bro, yeah, it was like your first
album and it was like, yeah, I'll do a song with you, why
not? And like I said, I didn't have
anything to do with the beat. I just showed up to the studio,
air quotes and my bedroom. Yeah, I just showed up, knocked
on the door and said I have my 16 ready.
I wrapped my 16. I turned around, I walked out.
So he did all the mixing, all the.
Math. And then I threw money at him
like this. I'm out.
Well, and I throw the basket. Please don't.
There's too many things that you could damage.
I had nothing to do with any of that.
So how did bloodlines come about?
I kind of just ask you, it's been in development for about
four months or something. We thought we were going to get
it done way sooner than we did, but then a.
Lot of stuff going on. Real life stuff and then fake
life stuff in the middle of the. You do have one.
It's raining money. Goo goo goo.
I'll take that dollar. But yeah, it's going to have 9
tracks, Bloodlines will, and we've just been working on it
and each song has me and Arcentrate on it.
It's very fun. Yeah, it's a very fun album.
It's kind of like a weird amalgamation of horror core and
and flexing tracks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. It really is.
It's a way for me to show that I still got a little something in
the tank, but also I'm kind of passing the torch and being like
I'm slowly, I'm stepping away because I haven't done hip hop
in a really long time or horror core in a really long time.
But I wanted to kind of give my stamp of approval to what you're
doing because like I said, you already as as young as you are
and as early as you are in your musical career, you've, you've
surpassed my expectations. And I I wholeheartedly believe
that you're just going to get better and better and better.
Yeah, baby boy better believe that.
I do believe it. So that being said, I'm going to
move on to another a weird question for you and for the
folks out there in Internet land to get to know you.
So this is, this might be music related.
It all depends on you. So this question is, what is one
of your YouTube guilty pleasures?
What's something that you watch that people wouldn't expect that
you watch on YouTube? Some of that people wouldn't
expect I mean, I'll just say a bunch of stuff that I like to
watch on YouTube, some of which are music related.
I like watching videos of rhyme scheme rhyme scheme videos
breaking down popular MCS schemes that they use on their
songs. So like highlights all the
rhymes and it helps me learn the lyrics of the songs.
And something I I like indulging in watching a lot of Eminem
breakdowns. See how the GOAAOAT do this
learning from him. And something I also watch they
probably didn't expect is I watch a lot of Sensei Seth
videos because I am a ninja. So is this man.
Real life. Ninja, if you see us in an
alleyway and it's dark out, please turn on some lights.
We're scared of the dark. Absolutely.
So please. I'm scared of the bugs that are
in the dark too. Flies and bees and Wasps and.
Trees. Roaches.
Roaches hang out in the dark, and I ain't about that.
Something else I watch that I watch frequently is I watch a
lot of Minecraft videos because I'm still a kid.
Yeah. So yeah, I like Minecraft.
I you could say I'm a video game kind of sort.
Wow. You could say that, yeah.
So any other weird YouTube stuff or is that?
Oh yeah, cut this out, cut the blanks out, cut that out, cut
that out. I watch my strange addictions.
I like watching women drink gasoline and then explode their
spleens every time they leave and pay with green.
They get the diesel and it makes their muscles atrophy, so they
think that they look lean, but actually they just burn and turn
ashy on the inside to the out, you see.
All right, we also like my £600 life.
All those fatties, I like when the when they're walking on
linoleum and it starts cracking and it sounds like disco music
or that's their Cellulite popping.
It's. Probably bad.
I want to run my fingers on you. Probably like an inch.
Inches. That's gross.
But on that note, let's hit a quick commercial break and then
we'll come back. Hi.
I'm triple Lord mine and I make music.
Have a listen. Pick apart your particles and
part gargoyle because I'm setting stone.
The professional parse royal like to view the mutilation of
the view feud it to me. Use the patients and not use the
noose, the meat in the rings, the grenade pins flying like
it's in regime and nothing but your shadow lion.
I've had a violent encounter. We're gunpowder smoke fries,
people dying in the booms, 50% opacity on the ghost of Spectra
from the net, thirst and the trope, and those who are
horrible and greedy. I'm getting close to you.
So it looks like 3 DI also make. Merch.
Go go and buy it now. Oh, yeah, that's right.
We're back. And now before we move on to the
last segment of the show, I'm going to let my main man Walter
over there ask you a question. So wondering.
What that was? Walter.
Yeah, he he's an odd duck and he likes to stick his nose in and
ask questions. Is he really a duck?
No, he's not a duck. He's a deadite.
You really got me there. I thought you was like talking
about a real duck or something. That's like crazy.
No, he's a rotting corpse that wants to consume our.
Flesh. Something like your mom?
Yeah, pretty much. All right, Walter, go ahead and
ask him. Ask him your question.
Hey TLM, how aren't you just an ICP clone?
So he's, he's, you're being a kind of a Dick.
Yeah, you you need to shut your rotten tilapia fried looking
grill and spill Tracala out. You know, freaking maggot
luncher. You know we sound similar, but
you know me and you, you sound similar.
I don't like you because because you remind me of me.
He's a jerk. Yeah, I'm, I feel like I I'm
very similar to ICP, but I'm not a direct clone.
I do rap about having good morals.
I have a song on Limbo called Bad People where I kill
pedophiles. That was a well timed burp.
Sir, I kill pedophiles, racist and rapist.
Because if you if you're a racist, a rapist, or a
pedophile, you should like put a chicken skewer up your urethra
and light it on fire and then jump off a building while
screaming I'm awful. Yeah, you should.
Yeah, but I like to see myself as different because I try to
also have those dense rhyme schemes, not dissing on ICP, but
they don't have the most elaborate.
They're storytellers. Yeah, except on Yum Yum Bedlam,
which is an album that I really like that a lot of people don't
like. I really like Wretched.
If you haven't heard ICP's Wretched and you think ICP is a
joke, listen to the rhyme scheme and like what that song is
about. It's crazy good about like a a
demented serial killer who only laughs and has a good time at
others disdain. It's really good and everything
rhymes. It's like Eminem wrote it.
I'm not even going to lie, I'll. Tell you there's some There's
some absolute bangers on Yum Yum Bedlam that a lot of people
discount. For sure, but I do think the
knot is way more fun than Yum Yum bedlam, even if it isn't
more rhyme delicate. But there's some, yeah, really
fun songs on The Knot. All right.
Well, I suppose we'll move on to the next segment, which means.
Which is it? Let's tell me.
We're going to take a look at Triple Lord Minds Hot Takes.
That's right, good Sir. It is time for the Hot Takes
segment and this is the Deep Cut podcast.
I would not be doing the name of that podcast justice if I didn't
know you very well personally and go back and look at all the
things that you've liked or loved in the short amount of
time that I have known you on this planet and make you choose
between A or B. So some of these may be music
related, some of these may not. But like I said, the main
purpose of doing this podcast is so that people out there not
only get a taste of of what kind of music that you make, but also
get to know you as a human being because you are more than your
profession. You're more than just a kid in
face paint with dreadlocks. You are a human being.
That's right and debatable. It's it's debatable that you're
a human being. You could be 4600 cockroaches
stacked up on top of each other in a jersey.
I thought you were going to say trench coat and I would have
said jersey, but you said jersey somehow.
I'll say trench coat. All right, so like I said, I I
have done this a handful of times with some other guests and
I'm going to give you these A or B choices.
You can either just say I picked this move on, or you can give a
reason as to why you picked those things so that you know
people out there can get kind of a a feel for for you.
Don't feel me. You filming me?
Don't feel me. I will.
Let's give me your A's, give me your B's and possibly the rest
of the alphabet. Bring it my way.
Baby. I'm bringing, bringing my way,
bringing my oh Snappy's doing a move through.
I'm gonna bring it your way. I'm gonna bring it your way.
All right, so number one is ATV show animation.
Let's go Simpsons or Gravity Falls, you jerk.
I know. Man, if you weren't my dad and
I'd probably say hey stranger. Why are you making me pick
between those two things, stranger?
Yeah, you don't know me. I was raised basically entirely
off of one of these shows while my parents sat playing Dark
Souls and Final Fantasy while their best friend came and
raised me, which was this TV show.
This TV show I have a giant blanket with the with one of the
main characters on here and I learned a bunch of humor from it
and it aired on Disney XD and it's Gravity Falls.
I love Gravity Falls. Bill Cipher is one of the
coolest villain ideas ever and Alex Hirsch is the best puzzle
maker ever to exist. It's.
A very good storyteller. It's a shame that it's such a
short series. Yeah, it's only, I think it's
two seasons. Which is a travesty.
Yeah, they need to. I don't want them to make it
again because it'd be. I don't think it'd have the same
allure. It'd be cool if they did a
Gravity Falls animated movie, so like one more episode that was
like an hour and a half, like a really good high quality
episode. But like with.
The Simpsons, you're always getting stuff, and it's just
gotten worse and worse. That's what would have happened
if Gravity Falls had kept that's.
True. You either live or die.
Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a
villain. Yeah, that's the saying.
And I did both. But yeah, Gravity Falls, it was
supposed to only take place over 1 summer.
That's what the show was about 1 summer.
But it took like, I think it was like 4 years or something.
I don't know the. Ferb also was 1 summer and it
just went on for like 900 years. There's 104 years, some of the
kids and older and older. Yeah, it's the beauty of
cartoons. They don't age.
That's right. But yeah, I'd go with Gravity
Falls because I I learned a lot of my like drawing style from
Gravity Falls too. And I've watched more Gravity
Falls than I have The Simpsons. Sorry, simp.
So PRS. Well, and also with Gravity
Falls, you can rewatch it because it is so short that you
can just be like I feel like Gravity Falls and takes like a
week or two. Yeah.
And then you've noticed things in the background that you have
seen like blend and bland. And for those who know this, you
know there's a deep yeah yeah, blending Blandon in the
background. You can see him, the time
traveler guy. He's crazy.
Watch some Mat Pat. Watch some game theory, film
theory about Gravity Falls. It's awesome.
It's just a theory. Shout out to a much bigger,
better channel. Guys, go follow them, show them
some support. They need the money.
They need it. They need it all right, next
next is a hobby hobby. So I'm going to have you choose
between two things that you have been passionate about in in the
past and one maybe that you still are.
So choosing between ghost hunting or metal detecting.
For those who don't know, I was a kid before and every.
Month they do be hunting them ghosts.
Every month it would seem I would change hobbies and things
that I do. And for those who have seen my
show on YouTube, they know I've metal detected before and they
probably didn't know that I ghost haunted before because I
didn't. We should, but I sold all of it.
Sold all of it to buy a crack. There's your answer.
I sold the ghost hunt and stuff.
I still have the metal detecting stuff. 2 metal detectors.
Yes, one for me and the worst one for you.
Yeah, yeah. Whoever whoever is with you gets
to use the cheap. Controller B, Controller A.
The one that's sold, not by a thread.
It's just I hate being it's a second player.
It's just the knob and the motherboard.
There's no buttons or anything you got zapping yourself.
Shocking. All right, the next one is a
martial arts question. So Muay Thai or Jiu?
Jitsu Well, I've been doing Muay Thai about four years.
Yeah, coming up on 4. Four years started when I was
13. I'm 16 so that doesn't make
sense. 12 you were 12. I was 12 because I started
working at home first. I work from home.
From home when when you decided actually that started on my
crazy like weight loss journey when I was like trying to get
back into shape and then you started going to the gym with
me. And one of the Oh yeah, I wasn't
even doing back when I was like 90 lbs.
Yeah. And one of the only things that
I know how to do training wise is to train to fight.
So, but obviously you got into it and we just started doing
that stuff at home. And then you got so good that it
was like, I need to get you to a real gym because you're, you've
surpassed even anything that I could teach you.
Yeah, and at the time I was getting bullied, not a lot, not
like the 80s kind of bullying where it's like shove you in the
locker. Karate kids, you're so gay.
Give me your money. It's not that kind of bullying.
It was more like, what's you? It was like, get out of here,
we're playing soccer. We don't want to play soccer
with you, you stinky dork. Yeah, You have glasses and hair.
I have cancer. They were saying that.
It's crazy. Yeah.
So I got really good, and I got. Yeah, So Muay Thai, probably.
But that does remind me of the one time when I was being a
total annoying little rodent of a man back in either
kindergarten or it was first grade OK and it was recess time
and these the cool popular kids were playing.
The cool popular kids in first grade.
They were so cool yeah, with their with their cool guy
sunglasses, the pixelated ones like the Oh yeah, the MLG like.
Minecraft style, right? Because they're pixelated so
they were just way cooler than you.
They had bad ass lunch boxes and their parents bought.
Them Yeah. So the cool popular kids of
first grade, they were playing soccer either time there was a
huge like soccer field, soccer field in the field of soccer out
in the recess field of soccer town.
OK, yes. And I was looking at them.
I was like, man, it would be fun to ruin this.
So so I would just keep accidentally dropping my ball.
Whoops, went all the way across to the other side of the soccer
field, got to run through slowly and go retrieve it and then run
back through. So I did that a couple 15 times
before I think I bumped into somebody and they were like,
hey, stop doing that, We're the cool kids playing soccer.
And I was like, my bad. So lo and behold, I go back to
where I was playing by myself because I was a friendless loser
playing one man dodgeball. I'm out shit.
Game's over. Somebody catch a bottle and get
me back round it back. Up So I dropped my ball again.
My balls dropped and rolled across the field.
I was like looking both ways like I was crossing traffic and
I went through bumped into the same kid again.
So what he did is he knocked me on the ground, pinned me on the
floor and started schoolyard, choking me as hard as he could
until I blacked out. And then you were like, I'm
going to learn how to be a. Ninja.
And then the teachers came and gave him detention and I got off
Scott free. Well, as Scott free as you can
with having a broken trachea in your L1 vertebrae crushed by the
hands of the cool first grader. And then I drank water inside
the cool air conditioned school building.
There you go, there's a story. Remember that?
From when I'm freaking famous and huge.
Huge. You'll say, remember when you
died and I was like, you got me, here's a dollar.
By the cool kids in fucking first grade.
Here's a dollar. That's so redundant because if
you just want to go find those kids and just beat their asses
now like. Yeah, you know who you are?
Brody. Friggin Brody.
Who names their kid Brody? Dork dorky parents.
He was super tan though. He is.
He's either like Final Destination 3, going to the
tanning salon every single day, or parents.
Just locked him outside all the time.
Or wait, he might. No, I was.
He might have been Mexican. I don't know.
But I don't, I think he was just like, super, yeah, he was just
super tan. And he would always talk about
Wolf Park or like what? Rap park, not rap park.
It's like Disney but for rednecks.
Wolfenstein Park. I don't know.
Wolf. Disney for rednecks.
Wolf like, something with wolves like.
Lodge. Great, Great Wolf Lodge.
Yeah, Disney. For rednecks is the Great Wolf
Lodge. There you go.
So that's where my growing disdain for rednecks arose.
Not ICP at all. I actually influenced ICP.
Next is a bevil wage question, so monster or ghost I.
Don't know. Sipping down a Welch's Grape
Ghost right now. I don't think it's going to
work. There it is.
Good job. There you go.
So yeah. But blue monster shout out.
You're picking ghost over monster, right?
Right now, right now, but. It's a phase.
It's not a phase. If I if I had a blue monster in
this hand and a purple this ghost in this hand, I'd probably
drink the blue monster, though. It's just whatever's available.
And whatever caffeine is available.
I drink caffeine out of a straw held by a baby in a stroller.
I'd steal it from that kid. Yes, I would.
So this next one, this is going to be like a cheat day breakfast
question because most of the time you're very disciplined,
you don't put a lot of bull crap.
Look at that in. The body, it comes with the
territory. When you're training you don't
want to put bad fuel in the engine, so on a cheat day
breakfast you going to go with. Breakfast.
Breakfast Breakfast apple fritters or just regular
doughnuts. Man, I'm going to go with the
apple fritter. You, you have not felt true
peacefulness and pleasurableness, have you?
Would waking up in the morning and having a blue monster in one
hand and your parents being like, guess what?
And I'm like 5:00 AM morning time shoving A fritter down my
mouth. A nice warm apple fritter.
That's the sound of Fritter and Monster combined.
Treasurable. That's delicious.
See. Yes, a fritter is my choice all.
Right, a breakfast doughnut deliciousness, cheat day
deliciousness. All right.
This next one is I would say this is probably another one of
your hobbies from back in the day that I'm going to make you
choose between because you've dabbled in both of these.
So I'm curious which one you prefer doing more, Cartoon
animation or stop motion animation?
Yeah, so for people who don't know, I used to upload very
frequently on a YouTube channel called Galaxy Man, which I
uploaded both of these types of animation to very little.
But I'd probably go with digital animation for the reason that if
you mess up stop motion animation, you got to start all
over. But if you mess up digital
animation, use Control Z that boy.
And add in a couple more frames. That's right, I and when you can
digitally process the stuff easier and make it look all
good. Add blood, add confetti, add
snow, add rain, add dirt, add gravel, add explosions, add your
dad, add your mom and add some crabs.
You can't do that. Crimes or crabs?
Crab crimes. Crab crimes.
You know what that's called? Crab crimes.
You know what it's called. What's it called illegal?
Wait, Seagull. Why?
Oh, because it's in a sea. That's I'll Seagull.
I'm picking it up. Or no, that's just when a bird
is sick, I'll seagull. Steven Seagal has the flu.
He's I'll seagull sorry about it.
I won't. He's in Russia.
And Sylvia, the Russia seagull, Stevens, you.
What's the next question? You, Dirk alert.
All right. The next one is a training
question, which I believe there's really only one answer
to this question and I've asked a couple people that do training
this question as well. So I have a feeling I know what
you're going to say, but I'm curious either way.
So cardio or weights? Cardio all day if you if you can
punch freaking. What's that 260 LB dude?
What's his name? Stupid Bradley Martin.
Bradley Martin If you can punch Bradley Martin 18 times in the
face before he can go. Here come the right, here come
the left. I'm a big dumb slow dummy.
That was speed up too. That dudes slow as shit.
But if you can just. I don't want to punch because
there's a microphone. If you can get like 18 strikes
in that same amount of time and his jaws going, then he's
knocked out. No matter how big you are, you
get hit 13 times in the jaw, you're done.
Yeah. And yeah, I like cardio because
I like going to the track and embarrassing all the track kids
because I run around the track and I still outlap them because
that's fun to do. Make make the make the popular
kids who are popular for running look bad at running.
About the kid who just makes music, I guess.
Yeah, and they always say, which we used to have pinned up in our
gym. What does fatigue do?
It makes a coward out of all men.
Absolutely so. And that's what's funny is a lot
of people who think that they can fight or that they train to
fight, they don't do cardio. It's a lot of big muscles and
look at how awesome I look, but it isn't, it's not functional.
Yeah, if you can't put your hands behind your back and you
need 3 pairs of handcuffs when you get pulled over for having a
DUI and then you know you're fat and alcoholic.
But yeah, that's true. Those are the best to watch.
We also, yeah. So that's also another guilty
pleasure is we like watching. Fat drunks.
Also not not saying that this person is 1 but we also watch
watch Meat Canyon and he's not. That drunk.
He's half of them. How you doing?
Yeah.
All right. Next question.
This is going to be a hero question.
From Heroes. So I'm going to make you choose.
I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but this is a this is
going to be a moral quandary for you.
So Bruce Lee or Jean-Claude Van Damme?
Well, both in aspects of better actor Jean-Claude Van Damme all
the way Better like pioneer of mixed martial arts and of
training methods. It's Bruce Lee.
And Bruce Lee is seen as higher for other people because he's
the and the yellow jumpsuit nunchuck ping pong.
Even though it was a fake video guy you know.
He's the goat. And Jean-Claude Van Damme gets
under looked even though his butt is huge.
He's got really good glutes. Yes, you can't even.
It's not gave. You're looking at Jean-Claude
Van Damme like. Cheeks Van Damme.
Hey, man. That's it.
He's handsome. I can't help it.
That's like one that's a guy that I look at and I go, I might
bite the bottom lip just. I'm by the top lip.
That's a sexy it's I can't. Bruce Lee in forms of training
methods is up there and Jean-Claude Van Damme in terms
of storytelling and all this stuff is up there also.
So I'm, if I could meet either or, I'd meet none of them.
All right. OK, I'd have to meet both of
them. At the same time, even though.
One of them is dead and the other is kind of like a wuss I
think because he doesn't even want to get sunburnt and he
doesn't like mosquitoes. So I.
Think Van Damme suffers a little bit from that Hollywood prima
Donna. Because, you know, he was so he,
he became so big so fast in the 80s and 90s.
Like my £600 life that he. Well, I mean, boy, that would be
Grossy and Van dam like super fat.
I would I'd. What if his butt stayed the same
size so it was just like a upside down bowling pain?
I would shoot myself if Van Dam got fat.
I don't know if I could handle that.
That would be not good for me. But yeah, I think he just, he
got too big too fast. And, you know, he was big in the
era of excess, so in the 80s and the 90s.
So he had all this money and it was like cocaine.
He didn't. He didn't do cocaine D.
Yeah, he had a drug problem for a hot minute and then he just
was not a nice guy for a while. But film wise, Film wise.
You do not let me kick your face.
I won't kick your face. What the Hell's a Denmark I
mean? He was very prominent for this
Lomo it. Starts with a B It's weird.
I may I try. Yeah, it was a little bit of
what is that, Bruce Lee? Bohemian throat singing.
No, that was Doodle Bob. Yeah.
Well, I was gonna say you went to SpongeBob, but there was
some. What is that?
What's that throat singing? I don't.
Like that Bulgarian? But Aztec throat singing?
I don't know, I'm just saying super.
Impressive. Yeah, I need to get a Bulgarian
throat singer on my next album. Yeah, they all.
It's weird. They can like do 2 notes at the
same time. It's really.
Crazy. It's like the guy from Creed.
Get you all back here. You want to see my impression of
ACDC while we're at that note. Who's that?
That's no, that's Vince Neil. Vince, is he on ACDC?
I think what's. Funny is he is the new because
the lead singer of ACDC. Shouldn't be like the new look
who we got Vince Neil. They're not be the dude.
They're happy about that. They're.
Replacing the lead singer of ACDC with Vince Neil cause the
lead singer has been having such trouble.
Oh, and. They're gonna bring.
Neil is a better chance. Yeah, He looks like a strawberry
every time he stands up. He looks like your Jersey I.
Don't know if you caught those lyrics.
Hog and toss, piggy toe. Penis.
Yeah, real good that. Guy a little penis eye.
A real good singer. No.
And you know, to carry on the legacy of ACDC, I'm real.
Glad ACDC stands for Awfully awfully clumsy during singing
the C is this AC for the S sound awfully clumsy during.
Singing. We're almost done.
We have two more for you. So next is a cinema question.
You're a very silly guy. I don't know if the.
Freak, you say? Watch and listening have picked
up on that, but I'm going to make you choose.
You do horror core. So there's a general assumption
that you're into the blood and the guts and the violence, but
are you choosing horror movies or comedy?
Well, there's a dog. Like magic.
Appears. Holy crap.
Holy crap, there's a dog again. I got him.
I found one. This is the rats that are in the
cabin. That's three rats and a dog.
Three rats. Three rats helps our rat.
Problem 3 Rats and a dog costume.
That'd be a really cool band, like a punk band, three dogs and
a rat costume. Three rats and a dog costume.
Yeah, yeah, you said it backwards.
Well, no, that that would be a very tight fit unless there were
chihuahuas in case it might work.
Three rats in a dog costume? No, but.
If the IT was flipped, chihuahuas might pull it off.
They are small. Mind blowing.
So what's the answer to the question?
What do you prefer watching, horror or comedy?
I I think I like watching a mix of the two because horror and
comedy are very similar and since like if you're starting
making movies, you should start making a comedy movie or start
making a horror movie. You shouldn't make like a
romantic movie or you shouldn't make a movie like psychological.
You shouldn't make Interstellar as your first movie.
You should make Friday the 13th Part 1 as your first movie,
which a lot of people figure that out because horror and
comedy, they help you work on your timing and they help you
work on stuff that gets reactions because you need to
have stuff that pulls at the heartstrings for both.
You can't just have a movie that's scary the whole time.
You need to have a movie that's scary and makes you a little sad
scary and it makes you a little happy, or a comedy movie that
makes you a little scared. It makes you little sad or makes
you little. Has to have levity.
Yeah, has to Karuk. And then it's got a smile with a
tuk. Chama, now Chama, now you know
what a tuk is. No, it's a beanie.
A stocking hat. That's what they call stocking
hats in Canada. Tuks, I learned that and I hate
that term. So for anyone from.
Man, they really took that away from you.
They. Did took it away from me and it
upsets me I I had. Never.
It upsets me, Tuk. I've never I'd never heard the
term tuk until probably a year ago and now every time I hear it
I go it's a beanie. Every time I fart I tuk.
That's that's a better term for Tuken is yeah, that tuk I'm
tuking, I'm dropping a. Man 2 can play this game.
Yes, we can, Tuking Sam. There's a dog that's amazing.
Holy crap, say something. He's tired.
He's old and tired all right, so.
Did I answer that question? Yeah, you said you wanted a mix.
Between yeah, like something like Scary Movie or Tremors.
Tremors is a good movie. Tremors, Tucker and Dale versus
Evil Cabin in the Woods. Wait, they really fought Evil
Dead inks? Tucker and Dale's fought evil.
That Inks confirmed on the Deep Cut podcast and The Cabin with
Danny on my lap. Maybe.
Danny was always here, you've always been the Dan on the lap.
Caretaker. Now this last question.
Oh man, it's going to be sad to leave.
This is a tough one and I'm looking forward to your answer
because I have trouble even with this one.
Some some folks might not, but I I think this is a thought
provoking question for. A very specific demographic that
listens to our podcast. This is a Juggalo question.
This is an Insane Clown Posse question for you, and it's not
easy. It's not easy.
That could be meaning anything for me because everything's easy
for me. So if anything's not easy,
that's going to be weird for me. Experience, you know what I'm
saying? You know what I'm?
Saying I know. So I'm saying.
I know what you're saying. Weird Al Yankovic interviewing
Eminem. So the question is first deck or
second deck? You absolute butthole Twiggler.
I'm not twiggling. No buttholes.
I want to know what your answer is.
I want to know which deck you prefer.
Because there's a weird split. There's a divide in the Juggalo
fandom. Some folks really look down at
folks who dig the second deck and you know, I mean, then there
are second deckers, second deckers that don't really even
know that the first deck. Exists my deck is better than
your deck? Yeah, it's the second deck is
it's not. About the size of the deck.
It's about how you use the deck. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And the second deck might be bigger because there's many
variations of certain albums so. I do think the second deck is
longer. Bigger perhaps?
It it's got more girth in the sense of the the EP that are in
between each album. You got like we were talking
about Yum Yum Bedlam earlier. Yum Yum Bedlam has four, five
albums it's got first it came out with Yum Yum's lore, then it
came out with Yum Yum Bedlam, then the seeds which each have 7
songs. Oh yeah, The Lure has 8 songs
and the seeds have 7 songs each and then Yummy on Bedlam has got
17. So that's like, it's like 8000
songs right there and. Then the fearless Red Fury has.
Flip the rat and it's got the for the three disc box set that
I got recently. It's got something else extra CD
in there, but I, I used to be heavy on the second deck because
I was literally born when the second deck started, give or
take a couple months. 2009 is when I was born.
I know all you old guys are like, man, he can't be on the
podcast below. He's he, he, he can't even look
at ICP. He can't, he can't even do
anything with ICP. He's so young.
He can't even look at ICP again, he can't listen to them.
He's way too young to be ICP, but ICP does stand for inclusive
crazy penis. Yeah, and and I'm not going to
speculate on yours, you can. Factually.
I could. But I I used to be really heavy
on the second deck. Bang pop Boom mighty death pop
are like my go to albums to listen to because they're so
fun. Like the second deck is really
fun to listen to when the first deck is really horror core that
it's also fun to listen to like Riddle Box.
It's got like hip hop, it's got story, it's got horror core.
Yeah, it's got everything. When then when you get to like
Marvelous Missing Link, it starts getting like, OK, not as
good as the other stuff. And then you get to fearless red
fury and people are like, that's awful.
And then Yum, Yum bedlam. People like that's the worst
thing I've ever heard. And then they're not you can't
even you're not even ICP anymore.
You're PCI. This is the opposite of what I
like. Get out of here.
I don't like you anymore. I'm going to cover up my
tattoos. Yeah, what happened to the first
deck sound? I want the first deck sound
which a lot of people don't understand.
You can't make the first deck sound when you're an old man.
Now these guys have families and they're like 50.
They, they have grown not not only as yeah artists, but like,
as men. And when you go through the
things that they've gone through, Jay's gone through
divorce. Surgeries.
Surgeries and you know, like all of the stuff you kind of
approach how you look at life a little bit differently.
And so the second deck has a more worldly view.
And I think that the first deck has a view of like a from a
teenager to like a young adult, like just so fucking mad at the
world. And which is why I think when I
was growing up, that first deck, I latched onto that first deck
so much, you know what I mean? Because it had that like, yeah,
what the fuck is this? What is, what is this about
attitude? And then when you get to the
second deck, you're a little bit more like songs like Average
Joey and things like that, where you're like, you know what?
Like life is awesome, but I will still choke your fucking neck if
you give me a problem. Yeah, I, since I am a teenager,
I would probably, I know I talked to you about how I like
the second deck a lot, but I've started getting more into like
the first deck being like, yeah, I'm a teenager and I hate you
guys and you were all stupid and I'm smarter than you.
And I've, I've been listening to Ringmaster a lot more.
And in my opinion, I think I might listen to Ringmaster a bit
more than I listen to Riddle Box.
And I know you're a Riddlebox fanatic.
I am a mark for Riddlebox. There's no, no, you're Roger
Demark. Demark.
Oh. There's there's no denying how
much I love Riddlebox and how big of an influence Riddlebox is
on me. But that's the beauty of it is
they have such a vast catalog that you don't have to be like,
you know, we don't have to be like, well, I just like this one
album. I remember I've, I've brought
this up before to you where one of my buddies was like, you
know, when I said I was trying to gather the like, build my
collection And they're like, shouldn't be that hard.
They only have 12 albums. And I like that was like a
literal like guffaw laugh. Like I don't know who you are
talking about, but there's way more.
Yeah, let me tell you guys something.
The first ever time, the first two ever times I ever bought
ICPCDS, the first time I ever bought stuff it I got about, I
think it was 7 albums. I got The Wizard of the Hood.
I got the Yum Yum box set that has Yum Yum and the seeds.
I got FTFOI, got Carnival of Carnage you.
Know yeah, yeah, carnival carnage should be that now.
Yeah, so I got seven albums for my first thing, and I'm like,
man, that's not even a drop in the bucket.
I have one Joker's card. And then second time we went up
to this place called Rats Underground.
Record up in whatever. Des Moines, Des.
Moines and man this piece of hair on my face is irritating me
and I have face paint on. Oh, oh, it's so warm.
So right now I have over 70 ICP albums. 70. 77 D That is like 7
different discographies. Absolutely.
And I still need hundreds of CDs.
People don't get it. Like I have some of the rarest
stuff I could think of. I got dumping the original
pressing of dumping. I have the original pressing of
the Wraith. I got like the third pressing of
Ringmaster. I have the 20th pressing of
Carnival Carnage. I still need stuff.
Yeah, Oh yeah, it'll never end. I need everything you have give
it. When I die, it'll be passed on.
Don't be plotting on nothing. You gave me an idea, guys.
Put that down. I just want to murder you.
You can't. You couldn't kill me on your
best day. I could kill you on your worst
day. Yeah.
Which is today. This is going to be the worst
night of your life, pal. All right, continue.
All right, that's the last question.
So before we wrap this up, why don't you let everybody out
there watching, listening again, however you're consuming this,
they need to know where they can find your music first and
foremost. You have it available on some
sites as well as your YouTube. I will link everything in the
description, but do your best, let everybody know just what to
look for and and then I'll let you get on with your day.
All right, so my stuff, you can find it on YouTube and band camp
because I don't have enough money to have a distro kit
account. So you can find it anywhere.
It's free for me to put up in money for you Band camp.
You can buy my stuff. If you want digital.
Yeah, and also if you go to my YouTube, you can look at my
links and it'll bring you to my Kunaki page where you can buy
physical CDs and they will print them and then ship them to you.
And it might take like 2 weeks because that's just how Kunaki
does their stuff. It'll take a little bit.
And on YouTube you can listen to my stuff for free, but there are
some CD exclusives that are only on Band Camp and on Kunaki and
songs that I illegally steal other people's beats allegedly.
Allegedly. Are on band camping CDs so yeah.
And this hair on my face. Driving him crazy.
So I suppose on that note, we should probably get going
because after all, there's a lot of movies out there and
somebody's got to watch them, so why not us, right?
I'll dismember you. Yeah, don't forget the light.
Confidence is good. You'll be.