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Oh, yeah, it's that time again for another weekly podcast with
your host, Rotten Rodger DeMarco.
And Evil is not here. That's right.
This week, doing something a little bit different, bringing
on a guest remotely, you will know and love this man's
beautiful face. He, he and I have been down for
a very, very long time. But Mr. Frank Pulci is in the
house. Yeah, and the crowd goes mild,
bro. Mild that's that's fucking spicy
Picante crowd right there. Hell yeah.
So for the good folks out there
in Internet land, listening, watching, if you are not
familiar with Mr. Frank Folche, if you just are on auto download
or you know, you're just checking out what's going on
because I got a guest on, this man is a motherfucking legend to
me. I love me some Frank Folchi and
you have done so much for so many scenes.
It's crazy, dude. A lot of people like, you know,
whatever it is like you, you eat a eat a sandwich or whatever,
but you don't know it's delicious, but you don't know
what goes on behind the scenes. No one's paying attention to
what's happening behind the scenes unless you dig.
And when it comes to horror movie reviews or when it comes
to horror core, the the genre of music, you do so much for them.
And I'm just, I'm fucking loving that you're here, bro.
Well, I want to thank you for having me, bro.
I told you right from the start I was like, I don't think I'm
going to be a good guest at all. But if you thought so and you
know, I'm happy to be here, but I don't know.
It's funny that you say that because like, I mean, we talk
about it and you know, our personal conversation, it's
like, do I actually do anything? Like do does anybody give a
fuck? Like am I allowed to curse on
this girl? Dude, you just hear me cussing
up a storm. All right.
OK, OK, yeah, So it's like, I don't know bro.
Like I think I have more. I guess the horrorcore scene is
a niche just like horror is, but horrorcore is even tinier.
So I think I have obviously more of a influence if you want to
say in that side of things. But I don't know.
I still feel like if I disappeared tomorrow would like
if I just cut off all my fucking Facebook and Instagram and all
that shit, took down the wiki site.
Like people would notice kind of soonish but then it's like
they're on to the next thing anyway bro Like I don't know.
I'm going to interject and disagree.
I want to say this about the horror core scene because I was
a part of it. I am I actively a part of it.
I don't really know how that works since I've been retired
since 2012, but I do have that EP coming out.
But let me say, horror core artists, sorry, sorry, not
sorry. A lot of them are fucking lazy.
There is no work, no promotion. There's a reason that they're so
underground is because they're not putting in the the footwork.
And you being who you are, you champion a lot of these guys and
you push them on a lot. You know, you, you give them a
platform so your reach without your reach, they stay in their
little three block radius kind of a deal.
And you know, I mean, some of these guys, they want to have
that push, they want to have that drive, but they don't know
how to do it. And that's where you come in,
man. And you, you do a lot for a lot
of people, for sure. Yeah, man, I try, like I said,
like, yeah, essentially I'm trying to curate the scene, you
know, like, and it's funny that you say like the laziness and
stuff and like I feel like that about humans in Central.
So obviously it'll trickle down to the horrorcore dudes, you
know, and gals, of course there's females in the scene
too, but it's like I've I've seen like, I don't know, bro,
how deep in the weed that we want to get about this shit.
And I'll try to do my best without naming names, but like,
it's almost like, did I do the right thing?
Like stepping forward and doing as much as I am?
Because it's like as when you're just listening to the CDs or the
fucking streaming or however you digest your content, it's one
thing, right? Like you're just a fan of music.
You don't necessarily have any interaction with the artist or
anything, right? You're just listening and then
you go about your day. But then, you know, with the
advent of social media and all that shit, it's like, all right
now, especially dudes like hardcore rappers and stuff, not
to shit on anybody's hopes and dreams.
Like they're just like us, bro. Dudes in their house, dudes in
their basement, dudes and wherever.
So they're more approachable. They're, you know, easier to
access. But then that comes with that is
like you start to see, you know, some of these guys are kind of
Dicks. Like when you start talking to
them, even if you're just talking just about music,
sometimes the interactions are like, didn't really care for the
way that went down. But then, yeah, like the ladies
even go ahead and go ahead I. Was going to say like you kind
of when you when you're that close to it, it's kind of like
finding out that the Easter Bunny ain't real.
You know what I mean? Some of these guys project one
thing, but then when you just, you know, peel a couple layers
off that onion, you're like, I don't, you know what I mean?
It just takes a little bit. Right, right.
That's why it's like, you know, I love the fact that like I've
gotten closer to some guys and then other times I'm like, I
wish I never even hit that dude up.
It's like, you know, going back to the laziness thing, it's
like, bro. So I do the hardcore site.
And with that, I tried to tie in the hardcore trading cards that
I've done like at this point total, like the main line has
five series. And then I've done a couple of
like record label exclusive like Shrunken and Entertainment had
their own deck. When Bloodshot was doing the
horror krunk entertainment thing, I had that deck.
So I've done like 7-8, I have a chop series, I've done like 8 or
9 things. So obviously I'm approaching all
the artists to get their permission to put them on a card
and to get their input. Oh, what photo do you want?
Blah, blah, blah, bro, lazy bro. It doesn't even begin to
explain. I can't even get some of these
motherfuckers to send me a photo.
Most likely answering me on your phone through the Facebook
Messenger or Instagram. However, I contacted you, so I'm
assuming you have some sort of photo on there that's somewhat
usable like. Or just 10-1.
You literally are carrying around a 4K camera, you know.
What I'm saying bro, like and it's like when when I say kill
send me a photo, it ring the the response ranges from oh bro, I'm
going to send you like fucking 30 right now and they do to I'll
get back to you and they never do.
It's like bro. Yeah, some people, man, they,
they don't I and I think it comes down to people who don't
believe in their own brand enough to want that push.
Some people are really comfortable being small.
Yeah. As long as the people I'm around
keep kissing my ass and tell me how great I am, you know, that's
all I need. And it's, it's it's unfortunate,
but we will circle back to horror core because I want to
bring up the reason that I'm even sitting in this chair is
because of you. You know, let's rewind way back
to November 13th of 2013. Wow, this guy knows the day bro.
We released our first team written review on
repulsivereviews.com. Hell yeah, bro.
Hey, Science. Yeah, dude, what a rough ass
movie. But you know, you had been a
friend of mine for a number of years leading up to that because
of the horror course scene reaching out to me and talking
to me. And, you know, you're obviously
a physical media collector, and I'm pretty sure I'd sent you
some CDs or something at some point.
Hey bro. So we had just kind of built
this bond on music, even though I don't necessarily care for my
entire back catalog or whatever, but and then also our mutual
love of horror. And that led us to repulsive
reviews. And you were, I think you were
instrumental in pushing me into the the video reviews.
Oh yeah, definitely bro, because you have such A and I don't know
if you would agree with me or not.
Like your charisma is there bro. Like I, I mean, you know, I'm
like your biggest fucking hype man bro.
I've always tried to be at least.
So it's like I remember you did. I don't even know what made you
do like the first video review. Maybe you were getting like sick
of just typing and sending me shit.
But you did like one, it was probably super short, maybe like
3 minutes and you were like overly animated and everything.
But I loved that style from you because like, you can do that.
Like you can be a character if you want to be, you know, like I
don't have that shit in me. Or maybe I do more so now than,
you know, back then. But I remember you sent me that
first and I'm like, bro, this is what you need to be doing.
And the cool thing about that is like, again, you were like
overly animated and everything and like you were living up to
this like TV hosting, which again, was fucking awesome.
But like, I also like that gradually you just work.
I don't think this was more of a comfort thing for you where
you're just like, fuck it, I don't need to stick.
Like let me just be me. So we like gradually got to kind
of how you are now on the mic and on the camera where you just
like chill, like whatever, have a normal conversation.
So but I like both sides of that.
And like I always was like, bro, we need more videos from you.
Not even just for like a content thing, but I was like, bro, this
is like people need to see and hear you this way.
Like so that's how it started. And that's why I was always
like, bro, I'll be the fucking writer type or whatever.
And yeah, you'd be the video, man.
So that's how that kind of came about.
It's, it's wild, dude. And yeah, that whole, that whole
shtick, you know, this is also ties into the horror course
scene. And you know, I mean, I'm, I'm
clearly, I'm sitting here wearing a, a Riddle box jersey.
But you know, going back to things like my true sense of
humor, who I am as a as a person stems a lot from Psychopathic
Records. So a lot of, you know, Diamond
Donovan, Douglas and Guido, you know, Strangle Mania, obviously
weekly, freakly weekly, things like that, stuff like that.
And you know, not not taking yourself too seriously was like
a big drive and creating that Rotten Rodger character.
You know, of all the bullshit when it comes to talking movies
and reviewing movies and stuff, to me, you're the one that like
you've made it the furthest. Like I for people watching or
listening, you know, when you go and you buy a movie and there's
like some shit on the cover and it's like Joe says, this is rad,
you know, four stars or whatever.
Like you've achieved that. Like you, you are that guy.
People read your words and like they they resonate and where I'm
just, you know, a guy in a shitty video store or a a log
cabin in the woods screaming, you know, you can't really put
rotten Roger fucking says this fucking kicks fucking ass on the
on the front of your movie. You know, I'm not the most well
spoken fella. So.
Yeah, but honestly, bro, first of all, you're, I think you're
too hard on yourself. You're it's fine.
Like we're everyday people, bro. You know, like the thing with me
is like, yeah, I tried probably too hard to like be super
professional. I'm like, bro, like you go to
some of these. I don't know, I'm going to sound
like a fucking hater probably throughout this entire podcast,
but it is what it is. But like, I, you know, you said
like I've gone the farthest. I honestly think bro, like not
to toot my own horn or our horn at this point.
And I've said this to you before in private, like we should be a
lot further than we are. And it's not for lack of trying.
Like God knows you bust your ass in every fucking thing you do.
I try until I'm just like, it's not even fucking worth it
anymore. And it's like you go to these
some of these review websites where like, I know these dudes
are getting literally hundreds and thousands of dollars worth
of merchandise sent to them for free to review, to write about,
to talk about whatever it is. And they got.
Yeah, right. It's that or like this, they're
spelling errors and there's grammatical shit and like I know
it's 2025 autocorrect and this and like nobody cares about that
shit. Like maybe I'm old school in
that way where I'm like, bro, don't you know how to fucking
spell? Like, so it's like it comes down
to all the stuff where I was like trying to be super
professional, trying to like hit on points that actually matter
other other than dope shitty. Like trying to like, oh, the
cinematography, like I don't know shit about cinematography,
but if it looks cool, I'm gonna remark on it, you know, like, so
I tried to be this guy that was like trying to go in depth and
all this stuff and it just never went anywhere.
And I'm a website guy, bro. That's why when you approach me
with this, I'm like, fuck yeah, let's do it.
I had the website up in what, like less than 24 hours when we
first did it, bro. Like I had it designed in
Photoshop. Yeah, I designed it in Photoshop
and then made it a live functional website within that
same period, you know, 24 hour period.
And so I always tried to like update it, make it good.
And it's like the SEO, nobody cares about this shit.
But like the reach just was never there, bro.
Like so I don't know, I kind of gave up because then it just
felt like work as opposed to the fun stuff that we started it as.
And the site is still up. If you want to go visit, our
first review is still there. Fucking the last Lama party
review team review. Ron Rondra and Frank Volchi
don't freed that shit. Hit up the fucking site.
Give me some traffic over there because I think I still get ad
revenue maybe. I don't even fucking know bro,
like. It's like a penny every month
dude. That's yeah if that bro, Like
it's that's why I gave up on that dream.
So like everybody wants to get paid for nothing.
I'm actually trying to do some shit and get paid and I
couldn't. So it is what it is bro.
Yeah, because we try to build a brand, right?
And it's it's difficult. And also that kind of leads into
the content you create now, which you do a ton of stuff, but
we're going to stick right off the bat.
I want to talk about physical media.
You know, we're old school, so we obviously are physical media
collectors, which basically means we have like full-fledged
libraries of movies in our houses.
And yes. Sir, So they take up a ton of
space, but it's all for the love of having them being able to
pull them off the shelf and and you know, take a look at them.
But that's that's essentially your your main brand of content
now is, you know, you're, you're getting all of these crazy
titles and taking a look at them.
And, you know, we're just, we're in this weird age where it seems
unless it's a boutique label, big movies that come out,
they're so bare bones and so pathetic.
You know, unless you, you know, you have a Scream factory or an
arrow that's loaded to the gills with special features.
But I don't know where I'm going with that.
Well, it's funny bro, because I don't know if you heard like
again, I kind of just heard just because I deal with, you know,
I'm a fan of pro wrestling and shit.
But like, there was a recent acquisition of Netflix, they
bought out Time Warner and HBO and all this shit.
Dude, like billions and billions of dollars.
Yeah, yeah. So like now I see on Reddit in
like various subreddits like the horror collectors or the
boutique collectors. Like what does that mean for
physical media? Because like you're saying if
it's like a major Hollywood release or just a non boutique
release of a movie that is popular or not, whatever, then
yeah, they don't really give a fuck.
It's like, well, put out it on physical media because there are
some people that care about it. But like, you know, we don't
fucking put the love and care that vinegar syndrome or an
arrow or whoever puts into it. But it's like, are we even are
people gonna even get that now? Like moving forward?
Like if I know streaming has been a huge thing and it's just
obviously gonna continue in that direction.
But it's like, I don't know, every once in a while there's
more and more things that threaten the shit that we love,
which like you said, it's physical media, whether it's
Blu-ray, 4K, there's still people out there that do just
straight up DVDs, which to me blows my mind.
But listen, everybody has their own thing.
I mean, I guess if that's that's the thing, you were always like
a huge proponent of DVDs. And I'm like, man, I'm not even
like a quality snob, but I'm like, if I can have the DVD or
the Blu-ray, I'm going to go for the Blu-ray.
You know, like, but I don't know, bro.
I'm scared that physical media is going to go away.
But at this end of the day, it's like, maybe that's better for
our fucking wallets and our bank accounts, you know, like.
Yeah, although, you know, I've started to notice even DVDs now.
Now it's like a hipster thing to you should, you know, get rid of
all your streaming and collect physical media.
And I'm like, we were screaming this 10 years ago, don't be on
Netflix and all this shit. And now when I was able to get
DVDs for a dollar at a thrift store, you know, they're up in
price and 3:00 to 5:00 to $7.00. And you're like, yo, I wasn't
paying. This is a $5 bargain bin DVD and
now it's 7 bucks somewhere. And.
It's yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, damage or whatever you're.
Like what the fuck? It's madness, dude.
But so, yeah, going back to that, like with Warner Brothers
and shit, a most recent example is I think it was Warner
Brothers that just had, they did their line of like, they're
celebrating 100 years, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For 100 years. This drives evil crazy.
Evil Dead Rise came out on Blu-ray through Warner Brothers
and it had that like 100 years celebrating 100 years.
Not even a fucking trailer. Nothings on the Blu-ray bare
bones pathetic like those that shitty like frozen frame menu
with the like blue buttons. Yeah, I hate that.
But then just the other day I saw Arrow is releasing Evil Dead
Rise. It took what, three years?
And now we're getting like a giant special edition?
But like, Warner Brothers fucked up.
Why wouldn't they? Just I?
I don't know man. Yeah, I mean, and that shit
happens and it's like, you know, there's two sides to it, right?
It's like, oh, that's awesome that we're now getting a better
edition. You know that it deserves.
But again, you don't know that you can't tell the future.
So when evil got the Blu-ray or whoever, you know, and I don't I
don't even know if I had the Blu-ray that one, but I digress.
It's like, yeah, you want you look forward to some of that
shit, or at least I know people like us.
Do you want to see the interviews?
You even like you said, not even a fucking trailer, not even a
you know, this got cut from the trail.
Like I don't know bro, it could have been anything and it would
have been better than obviously fucking nothing.
So. I don't know, I fucking hate
when they do that. My favorite movie of this year
just came out on Blu-ray and I'm holding out to buy it because
I'm like, I'm gonna wait and see if a if a special edition comes
out. But The Long Walk just got
released and I'm fucking Gaga over that.
And I don't know if you've seen it yet.
But no I haven't seen it yet. Bro I actually haven't even
heard that much in either direction like oh it sucked or
oh it was great. I think my Co worker said he
liked it and that was like the extent of me hearing anything
about it. Did you read?
It have you read it? I know you're.
Nah man, so many fucking Stephen King that I haven't read
unfortunately but. It's a very easy read and I mean
everyone always says you know the book is better than the
movie. You know it's true in this case
as well. But you can watch the movie and
it's it's fairly close. The only I just with Stephen
King movies I wish they were 6 fucking hours long.
I'm such a snob for like, I want to watch this all day long.
It needs to be Tarantino length, you know, I don't want to fuck
an hour 40 minute movie. No, no, yeah.
Well, it depends bro. I mean, because I don't know, I
hate to admit it. Like I think I'm stuck in this
generation and me and you are not that far apart in age.
But it's like I remember when we didn't have our fucking phones
glued to us and like, you know, our attention span was you pay
attention to what you're doing, whether it's a reading, a book,
a movie, whatever it is. And now it's like, if a movie is
an hour 40, I'll be like, man, like I don't know if I have it
in me to sit for an hour 40. Like obviously Bishop catches my
attention within the 1st 10 minutes.
I'm, I'm invested, I'm good. But if there's like a split
second where it's kind of a lull in the in the excitement or
whatever the fuck it is, I'm, I'm grabbing my phone.
And like to lift up your phone and like, I mean.
Yeah, and I hate that. Like I hate that about myself.
Like I know that's how the younger generation is, but I
never wanted to be like that. But like I'm now I'm stuck in
this weird thing where like my attention span is shit.
Like I'm constantly grabbing my phone and then I'm like, oh, I
missed that. Now I got to rewind or I might
as well just pause this. So an hour 40 movie becomes
either 2 sittings for me or fucking 4 hour, you know?
Like, so I agree with you that I would like longer content, but
it's got to be the right kind of shit, you know?
Like it's got to be good. Unfortunately, you know, our
brains are being rewired because like you said, like, you know,
we don't want to be those people, but you have a phone,
you have a computer in your pocket at all times.
So, and it's different from when it was when we started repulsive
reviews to where it's just, I mean, you're just constantly
like, well, let me just check. My wife calls it the the magic 8
ball or your crystal ball. You know, she'll be like,
consult your crystal ball. If I'm like, I think this is
what happened. She'll be like, look at your
fucking phone. And I'll be like, so I Google it
or whatever, you know, like someone is always fact checking
you constantly like nap, nap, nap.
This. So yeah, but having that stuck
to your hand is it's a crutch, dude.
You know, and I, I did this thing last year where I bought a
phone holder and I put it on my wall and had my charger tucked
through it. So I literally will when I'm at
home and I'm working on videos or whatever, I plug my phone in
and I hang it on the wall like it's a fucking wall phone.
And I make it face the wall so I don't see it light up or
anything. So if I get, if I hear it like
Ding Ding or whatever, I'm like, I'll check it when I want to,
you know, I'm doing this. So I'm really trying to like
break away. Yeah, yeah, being on.
Them No, that's I mean that's a good idea, bro, And that's the
crazy part is like we have to make a conscious effort to break
that habit. Like how the fuck did we even
get to this point, bro? Like it shouldn't be effort.
It should be like you don't need your phone.
But like you said, we're our brains are being rewired and not
in a good way. I mean, like, I get it, phones
and these devices, whatever, it's a necessary evil.
So like, obviously for emergencies you need a phone or
whatever, bro. We should just go back to
fucking flip phones. Like I think everybody would be
a lot happier. There would be way less fucking
strife amongst humanity. Like people are fucking insane
and this technology just makes it worse.
But I don't think that's what we're here to talk about, bro.
Also I just one last thing about phones is I I completely them
anti like watching a movie on your phone you.
Know yes 100% bro. Need to be on a big screen, you
know, that's yeah, big screen, loud, dark.
Just focus on what you're focusing on, you know?
Hell yeah, bro. The only thing I do on my phone
is like YouTube shit. Like if I'm on the treadmill at
the gym or something, obviously you want to fucking, you know,
make the time go faster because who the fuck likes cardio?
Although you guys seem to love cardio, you guys are fucking
beasts. But.
My kid loves cardio. Yeah, Cardio tries to kill me,
so you know. Yeah, but yeah, it doesn't mean
that's the only time I'll watch on my phone, bro.
That's it. Like can't do that shit.
I don't know how, bro. I have one of my boys on my best
friends. He watches like all his movies,
not all of them, but most of his movies in bed on his phone like
this. I'm like, Nah, not for me.
Yeah, it's not the same at all. You touched on wrestling a
little bit, so you're a wrestling mark and I've known
that for a long time. Obviously you you keep up with
the current products. You know you're watching AW.
Yes, Sir, people. Talk about AWA lot.
WWE, I don't know if you're keeping up with.
I fell off on that shit. I mean I think as soon as AW
came around like batshit was for me bro.
I was looking for that type of product forever and I finally
got it. So like there was no turning
back. So I brought him out with that,
but. And so you started your, you
have another little side hustle, which is super fucking rad.
And it has to do with wrestling, which is super cool.
And again, with we're giant man children, you know, that's
that's why we have a whole rooms filled with movies.
That's why we collect NECA figures and all of these other
things is, you know, because we're we're kids at heart.
And I think it's important to not lose that.
And your new gig definitely like plays into this can be for kids,
but it's also a little bit more for us, like super, super geeks.
So wanted to kind of pick your brain about why you decided to
do that and, you know, like, what's going on with it?
So Raj is talking about my 3D printing stuff, I'm assuming
correct? Ring Craft 3D.
Up yeah hell yeah, ring craft 3D, which I just came up with
within seconds one day it's I don't have it officially copy
written or anything like that, so somebody's going to steal it
by the end of this video. But but bro, that shit kind of
came about by accident almost, which I guess a lot of things in
life, whether good or bad, kind of do.
But so I was when I first started, I started 3D printing
maybe like 2 1/2 years ago. It's it's fairly recent and I
was doing just cool little things around the house, like a
fucking Q-tip holder for my bathroom, just like little
cheapy things. But I was fascinated by this
where you can take a design from the computer on a file and then
physically printed out to have a tangible thing.
Yeah. And it's fucking incredible.
So like I was doing that and then like I started like, all
right, how can I? I'm creative, bro.
Like I don't usually give myself enough credit, but like, I need
to be doing something creatively.
So I started learning how to design stuff on the computer
that I can then do 3D print. So I'm really going from scratch
cause a lot of 3D printing people and people that even have
their own striving 3D printing businesses, they don't really
print their own designs. They just steal shit off of
different. Yeah, there's like a repository
online. You can get any STL file and
then printing. Are you using Blender?
What do you use? I tried to do blender and that
shit is like so hard bro, so insanely hard and like you need
hours and hours and millions of tutorials to even do anything in
that. VR headset to be really good at
blender. I think help would help someone
like us. Yeah, that would be awesome
actually. But I use it.
It's actually like the simplest form of 3D modeling and it's
called Tinkercad and it's, you just go to tinkercad.com.
Like it's literally in the browser.
And it's essentially makes it so that you're breaking down
anything you want to build or design into the basic shapes.
So you start with a sphere and then you take a fucking square
and you change the dimensions and whatever.
Long story short, I could talk about this shit for hours, but
like, I started doing that and I started doing horror stuff,
which is what we, you know, that's our bread and butter, or
at least what we want it to be. So I was doing like the main
thing I was like, man, I could sell these is, you know, we're
talking about physical media on my shelves.
I don't know if I have any that I can grab there throughout the
room, but I have like little self dividers like so I don't
know how I think you just alphabetize your movies, but I
do it by company and then alphabetize.
So I have my screen factories over there.
I have my arrows on that side of the room and I know where they
are. But if I wanted to pretend this
was a real video rental place or have people come in and they're
looking for screen factory, I made a shelf divider where it's
just like a little black slide in and out divider with the
screen factory Lobo on a tab. And it's it's a fucking cute,
cool little thing to put on your shelves.
So I was like, I was like, bro, I could sell like a pack.
I made it like a pack of 6. Tell me what logos you want and
it was like 36 bucks like cover. Help me cover the cost of the
material 'cause you got to print on plastic and electricity to
use the machine. Whatever, dude.
I sold them one pack of 6 and that was it.
And I'm like, OK, like on to the next thing.
Yeah, like. Well, so here's the deal.
Just like you said, someone would steal your idea, steal
your company name by the end of the video.
Yeah, someone will see that you're selling that and go.
I'll, I'll, I'll cut it out of cardboard.
Or, you know, they'll do it, either a completely lazy version
of it or they'll just steal your idea and use and do it
themselves. And I mean, we live in that
world now where everyone is just like, I'll do it myself then
fuck it or I'll steal it or whatever.
So it sucks. Which is funny because we in the
beginning of this video we were talking about laziness.
So it's like you're lazy to do one thing, but then you want to
steal my shit and put the effort in to do that.
So I think you're fucking lame bro.
But so the way it started morphing into wrestling related
stuff again, like I mentioned was like just got by chance I
had bro, like you said, we're fucking man children.
I collect wrestling action figures.
Still one of the many things I collect.
So I was at a random Walmart one day and I beeline to the
wrestling figure section and there happened to be another guy
over there and he was talking to a worker and he was like asking
the guy like go look in the back for this specific figure.
So it was just me and this guy in the aisle and we were
bullshitting, whatever. We started talking, oh, are you
in this Facebook group for wrestling collectors, blah, blah
blah. So I was like, Oh no, I'll check
it out when I go home. So I go home, look on Facebook,
find the group he was talking about.
And I found him in there because we had introduced ourselves to
each other obviously, and he told me his name.
So I friended him on Facebook. He, he and I hadn't really been
promoting 3D printing stuff. So he must have like, gone back
on my profile. Like, who's this dude?
Like, maybe he didn't know it was me from the store.
So then he saw something that I 3D printed and he messaged me
and he's like, bro, are you still doing 3D printing stuff?
And I was like, yeah, how do you know about that?
Whatever. And then, yeah, I was like, what
the fuck? This guy, we just met.
He knows like, my whole life. So then he was like, bro, I've
been trying to find somebody who do those 3D printing so that he
can print me the brick wall from the old ECW stage entrance.
So I'm like bro, and with me, like I, I don't know, I'm super
hard on myself. And you know that personally,
but it's like I'm always like, I don't know if I can do that.
But then when I get my mind on something, I'm like, fuck that.
I'm going to do this shit and I'm going to do it better than
anyone else. So I told him like, I don't know
bro, don't get your hopes up. I'll try.
And then sure enough, probably within the next day or two, I
had that shit printed for him. And then he was like, oh, that's
fucking sick. And then like I was thinking of
ways to make it better. So then like I bought a
different color filament because like with my print, you only
print one color and that's the majority of printers, but.
Your gear though, now, yeah. Well I was painting stuff and I
bought a whole bunch of paints and shit because I'm a psycho
and I've used them probably once but because then I bought
another printer that's multi colour so now I can print in
multiple colours but but that's it bro.
He kind of snowballed from there.
He's like yo print me this brick wall.
And then I was like bro honestly why stop it?
Just the brick wall part let me make the cages around it and
then let me make the fucking lights which he didn't even ask
for any of that stuff. Once I showed him the cages then
I was like bro just wait and see what I'm doing.
And then I printed the fucking little like spotlights that like
were actually movable and like all this shit.
And I sold it to him. And then I sold like I think one
or two more and I got decent money.
So I'm like, fuck it, this is it bro.
Like then I started designing like little accessories, 'cause
I'm like, bro, it's hard to move that stuff, especially at the
price point I was asking for. Let me do little stuff.
So now I do like little fucking barbed wire bats, and I try to
do shit that's not made by Mattel and Jazz wares and the
actual figure companies out there because why would you buy
from me when you can buy the legit thing, right?
So I try to do like crazy deathmatch weapons that aren't
ever really going to see the light of day otherwise.
You just did the like the saw blades, like the the hand saws,
which is amazing. I mean, yeah, because stuff like
that is if you're a true wrestling mark, you know, a real
wrestling mark is, is going to be wanting those things like the
like the board with the nails in it, you know, from Stranglemania
and and weird shit like that. Barbed wire ropes you.
Know things like that. It's it's all so sick and it, it
just makes because most people like they're not playing with
their figures, but they want to have a nice display.
They want to be able to switch and take pictures.
Yeah, that makes them, you know, that much cooler.
Hit him with some cool lighting, put him on the entrance ring,
you know. That's why, man, like even with
that stuff, it's like, you know, like I said with the Horror
Shelf dividers, all right, that's one thing.
But I was like, oh, this is going to take off and it didn't.
They want to start doing this shit.
I'm like, bro, this shit's going to pop off and like, listen,
bro, don't get me wrong. I made a few bucks here and
there. I sell a staple gun, I sell a
cheese grater. I sell, you know, these little
things and it adds up if I make a bunch of sales.
But it's like I'm sitting on this shit and like I don't have
to make them until somebody wants it.
Like I could just print on demand type of thing.
But for the smaller things I kind of do just have a little
inventory on the shelf. Like can I move these fucking
little things at least? Like I don't know, nothing
really ever takes off like I wanted to.
So like I have the ring craft 3D name.
I made the little Instagram thing and I post on there, but
I'm like, do I even want to make an official site?
I think I have like a one pager like coming soon and I have a
couple of the items up on Etsy, but it's like, I don't know,
bro. I, I think I got to keep pushing
and just find the right thing because every time I post, you
know, I mentioned Facebook groups for wrestling collectors.
There's so many groups for everything.
But like I'll put it up in the deathmatch group or the
wrestling group or the indie group or the figure group,
whatever. And everyone loves the shit, but
then they don't want to like chalk up the money to and I'm
always asking for peanuts at this point.
I don't know. I'll take 10 bucks it like it's
not like I'm asking for thousands of dollars, but that's
where I'm at, bro. I fucking love it.
I'm doing it for fun and I like like, oh, I want to make a
cheese grater at that scale and it comes out dope first try.
I'm like, bro, that's the greatest feeling ever, you know?
I'm the fucking man. Yeah, I want to.
I want to say this. I'm going to hit you with some
words of wisdom from the one and only Shaggy 2 Dope.
The other day during one of his live streams, he was talking and
he said, you know who doesn't succeed?
Quitters, they give up, you know, that's, that's all there
is to it. That's the difference between
someone who makes it and doesn't make it is they quit.
And you, you and me both are relentless in our pursuit.
And it says it has nothing to do with fame or fortune.
You know, it's just it's, it's turning something that you're
passionate about into an actual gig into a job that you like to
do. And it's like you said, you
know, at some point when you're writing reviews, it starts to
feel like it's work. So it loses the fun.
And, you know, eight years ago or whatever, when I decided to
start writing reviews, I was like this perfect, if I could
turn this into a job talking about movies, like, I'll never
get sick of watching movies. And now here we are.
You know, I'm going to be 32 in or 3242.
Jesus, too many punches to the head, 42 in June.
And it's like, you know, like a movie really, I have to be like
in a mood to watch a movie and especially to like, want to
review a movie and go deep into it.
So that's why the podcast is, you know, it's evolving because
as when you grow, you evolve and you change the things you love.
So, you know, but yeah, don't give up on that dude, because
it's fucking awesome. And there are.
A billion. Man, children out there like us
who are total Marks and if you just keep you just keep saying
look at me, look at me, look at me.
They have to look at you. You know what I'm saying?
I hope so, brother, I hope so. I mean, like you said, bro, we
we keep evolving and stuff. So like, you know, something
that went from horror to wrestling and then I tried to
combine 2 and I was making little like Jason Voorhees as a
wrestler and like I was trying to make a little action figures
and that shit didn't pop off. So I'm like, fuck it, on to the
next thing. Like I'm always like you said,
evolving, bro, So something's got to pop off.
Same with you, but it's I think it's good for like bro, for your
audience, for example. Like maybe they don't want to
hear just about movies either, you know?
Like, I think it's cool that you're able to still be
yourself, still be the Roger that everybody loves, but then
start talking about some other shit.
I mean, the horror is always going to be there, bro.
Like we love this shit too much for it to ever fully go away.
And the cool thing is like you're introducing people to
different forms maybe. You know, like bro, when I
started my channel it and it still is.
I mean, I took a little hiatus, but it's always been here's my
hall of horror movies or horror in general.
You know, there's so many things that people can collect that are
horror, but nobody fucking knew about horror core music.
That's crazy to me. Yeah.
Like I. Mean.
Communities, you know, like if you're a movie collector, you're
a horror movie nut, you probably are focused specifically on
that. So you're not thinking about
like horror music. So yeah, yeah, I guess I did it.
And that's the thing. And maybe if they did know about
it, it was, I mean, that's I think another thing is like me
and you are not only horror fans and movie fans and however you
want to break down, but we love music in general too.
Like not all the music I listened, it was hardcore.
I listened to fucking metal rocks, a little bit of country,
as much as I don't want to admit that, but all sorts of shit.
And people didn't. I don't think people, obviously
not everybody, but I don't think there's a lot of people that are
like super into music that like they discover other genres.
So when me, I mean, I think you probably found out about ICP the
same way I did and it was through wrestling.
That's how I found out about them.
For me, it was my cousin. I, I, I've told this story
before, but I obviously I've never told this to you.
My cousin took me and my best friend to the theater to see
Scream in December of 96 when it opened and he was driving us, he
had this little tiny S10 truck. So all three of us are crammed
into this truck and he's like, you guys love horror movies.
He's like, you got to check this out.
Like horror rap and he put in Riddle box and he had the he
still has it, which I beg him every chance I get.
I want it from him. His his Riddle box is the one
that's got the head PE sampler like attached.
Oh. Shit, OK.
I think it's after I'm coming home, then there's like 3 head
PE songs on there. But damn, you know, he so he
played that for me and we had like 1/2 hour truck ride.
So I got like halfway through the album and I'm like, this is
fucking awesome. Watch the movie The ride home.
We listen to the rest of the album and I'm like, can you make
a dub of that for me? So he recorded it onto a
cassette for me and then I just became a mark.
I like you know, I'm like, well now I need this, I need this, I
need this. And then that's how I found like
Esham. And then I just, and then from
then, that's when I discovered local horrorcore rappers and
that's kind of what started my, you know, my whole career.
Oh yeah, yeah, bro. So that's the point I was think
I was trying to make. You ate it for me is like you
said, you went from ICP to then ESHOM to then you expanded.
I don't know if there's a lot of people that do that.
So, and then that's why I was saying like, we love music in
general. So you we find one thing we like
and we're just like, yo, there's got to be more of this out
there. So with me, it was I, I was
probably fucking 10 or 11 ICP. All of a sudden they're on my TV
because I'm watching Monday Night Raw with my brother and
they come out with the oddities and I'm like, who the fuck are
these guys? And like I for the longest time
I didn't even know Shaggy's name because however they said I'm
like, what are they saying? I can't even understand Shaggy.
What? So yeah, then I was like, so we
only knew of the Oddities theme songs.
I'm like, all right, that's pretty cool.
So then we're seeing them in WWF Magazine and all this shit.
So then my brother, I mean, this was obviously before streaming
and all that shit, I, we must have went to fucking FYE or
Coconuts or something to get physical CDs.
And my brother, I think the first one he got was Great
Malenko. And bro, I said I was 11 years
old, my brother's two years old and me, so he was 13.
No 11 or 13 year olds should be listening to the shit that ICP
is saying. But we fucking loved it bro,
like. Because it was edgy, you know
what I mean? Yeah, different.
It's hell yeah, bro. Typical.
Like when you listen to like, you know, California Love or
whatever, you're listening to like gangster rap, it's all
pretty much every gangsta rapper pretty much has the exact same
song. They're they're all, it's all
the same. So when you listen to ICP, and
that's what I don't know whether you, you know, classify yourself
as a Juggalo or not, but you know what I mean?
Like when you listen to ICP, there is no, they're OK.
It's like you either are like, this is fucking garbage.
I never want to hear it again. Or you're like, my life changed.
I'm painting my face every fucking day.
You know what I mean? Like you become that.
So like, especially that era because you know, they're
they're huge, they're on WWFWWF not.
WWE. And they're in between albums,
so they're in between Malenko and Jekyll Brothers at that
time. So Malenko had all that
controversy and everything. So that's like the perfect time
to discover them, dude. They were.
Huge and then yeah and like I had mentioned earlier in our
like talk here, like shit just happens by happenstance bro like
we saw them on wrestling, which we were watching anyway.
Then my brother gets ACD and then I was always more into
music than my brother anyway. And again, this was before the
Internet was what it is now. So it was a lot harder to find
like wise shit, you know, like minded shit.
So like, I don't even know how I started realizing there was
other shit other than ICP that was like that.
Like I didn't even know what horrorcore was.
I didn't know that term. I I considered them like for
lack of a better term at that point.
And now there's 8 billion subgenres.
But back then I was like, this is like rap and rock just
because of like their attitude. It was rap music, but their
attitude and like their edge, like you mentioned, I was like,
this has to be considered rock. No, because I was a metal head
already at that point. So but then like just doing the
research I was doing on my fucking I don't know, we
probably saw a dial up modem at the time.
I heard about like I learned about Twisted from the ICP
records and then from Twisted I learned about ABK and blaze and
but then I was like, oh, ABK used to be called something
else. Native funk.
What the fuck is this? From native funk I found crazy
clan. From crazy clan I found that
twisted used to be called House of crazies.
From House of crazies. It was I found out about soul
and Scraff being half breed. From half breed I learned about
oh, there's other groups that don't even have people
associated with these guys. Six side, Lu Cypher, Simpkin
Heights, fucking mad insanity. Like all this shit.
I'm like bro my young mind was fucking blown away.
And like that was before I even like horror movies.
I was like scared of shit as a kid but I was loving this music.
Dude, so while you're explaining this actively, my son is the one
running the ones and twos. My son is actively going through
what you were describing. You know, because and he he's
now he's collecting physical media, he's collecting CDs and
he started with Insane Clown Posse.
So he's like, I'm getting this and getting this.
And I told him I was like, bro, it's just like me because I'm
rebuying the shit for the third time because of all the
disasters that have happened in my life.
This this shit is a never ending rabbit hole.
And you know, because you're some of these things are so long
out of print and they're collectibles and yeah, you can
go on YouTube and fucking listen to it on YouTube Music, but
that's not the same. But like you're saying you've
discovered twisted. And so like, like with my son,
it's like, oh, OK, so who are these guys?
Well, you got to check out this album and this album at least,
you know. And then it's like, OK, well
then they did a track with this guy.
Who's this guy? OK, I got to check out his
stuff. And then you just just this
spider web just goes and goes and goes forever.
And like you said, like then it leaves, it leaves psychopathic
and then you're like, well, fuck, they did a song with Mack
10, who's Mack 10? And that's not even horrorcore.
But you know, you're like, OK, so you're over here.
And then you're and it just, it just never, ever stops when
you're a music head and you're like, you know, and of course
you're going to find some shit in there you don't like.
Of course. You know, but you're but you're
curating, you're building your musical taste and like, I've
never been the type to like, I only listen to this, you know
what I mean? So like it just it just it's
just a never ending expanding, expanding.
It's so fucking wild dude. Yeah, dude, it's fucking
awesome. And the cool thing is like all
those things that were dope when we were younger, like I
mentioned, the Simkin Heights, the Bedlam, the six side Bedlam.
Likes fries, I hear. They will always like fries,
bro. So I've been listening to that
shit these last two weeks. Like I had them all on CD.
We know that, but I'm not digging through all my boxes and
shit. So I've been doing the YouTube
thing like you mentioned, bro, I throw on bed like while I'm
working from home on my day job. Fucking throw on the Bedlam
chemical imbalances volume 1. Still fucking flames.
I don't know if I would show that to someone today who's
like, yo, you like Rab listen like what do you listen to?
I'm not going to play them a Bedlam album because like
they're not the greatest MCS when it comes to hip hop, but if
someone was like, what's what's the defining hardcore song for
you bro? I would go back to that old shit
and say fucking Guillotine, which is native funk featuring
fucking half breed. Three of the greatest verses
I've ever heard from each one of those guys.
So fucking good. I still love that track.
Or two crazy devil or two different crazies, which was
someone scraps as House of crazies, not half breed yet and
crazy clan. So Native Funk and Lavelle, like
I listened to Paraphernalia, which was I think Cap One's
first, Yeah, his first fucking hardcore little EP thing.
Still fucking dope, bro. Like that shit, no matter how
many times I revisit it I'm still like Oh my God it's so
good bro dude. That's how I how I am with like
Lu Sipha. Like when I discovered Lu Sipha
back in the day, I just, I could not get enough, you know?
And then like at some point somewhere along the line, like I
just forgot about them. And then, you know, you then you
see someone mention them, you're like, oh fuck yeah, they were
the shit. And then you go back and you're
just like, Oh my God. And then again, that's that
spider web of like, what are they doing now?
Like what's going on with these guys?
And like, just, yeah, never stops, dude.
Like it never leaves the DNA. It's just.
You know, and that's the thing bro.
And like that tying back to my site, the wiki site, it's like I
want people to know what these dudes are up to, you know?
Like unfortunately Sinai did pass away from Lu Cypher, but
Hex, the other member of Lu Cypher, bro, this dude drops
like 4 albums a year if not more.
Like you go on his page on my hardcore wiki.com cheap plug
fucking bro. The discography section for him
is like this long because he's just dropping shit constantly.
So yeah, bro, I'm trying to like connect the dots and like let
bro, if we this site was around when we were younger, yeah, we
had the fucking. Horrorcore.com.
Was yeah, horrorcore.com, which I still miss to this day, don't
get me wrong, but like the kill music was around.
But like, bro, when I don't kill music, bro, when I was younger,
again, I told you I was a metal head, a rock kid, whatever, and
I was doing the same thing. Just like I went from ICP to
Twisted to H OK to Half Breed. I was like, oh, I love this
metal band. Oh, this guitarist plays in
another band, let me listen to them or oh, this singer did a
side project and it's this. There was a website called and
it might even still be around, but it was like
metal-archives.com or something. And it was set up similar to a
Wikipedia or to a hardcore wiki where it was like a little
biography, the discography and past members, current members
and like see also. And like I said, the side bands
or whatever. So I would always find out about
new metal bands and like, if I was into power metal that month,
I could find fucking 20 power metal bands to download music
from and being a legal asshole and get their shit that way.
Or if I was into metal, I would listen to whatever.
And so bro, this many years later come full circle.
I'm like, bro, I'm doing that for hardcore.
Like you guys never fucking heard of ICP.
All right, well, here's the fucking main draw of the genre.
And like no questions asked. But then he also fucking violin
chase solo shit and then see also psychopathic riders and see
also dark Lotus. And then from dark Lotus you see
twisted from twisted. See also Jamie's solo page Ch
OK, see fucking Samhain witch killer, see whatever.
And I want people to be able to just fucking dig through the
crates, so to speak, and final this shit like we did, bro.
Like I'm making it easier for them in the day and age, but
it's like I just hope people fucking appreciate it man.
And I know they do. Like there are people that hit
me up constantly like oh man, I heard about this on your site or
I learned about this but I just, that's why like I don't think I
could ever take that shit off the Internet bro.
The same with repulsive reviews. Like nobody goes to that shit
but the site is still there. I haven't done a review in
fucking years but I keep it up. If people want to find it,
they're going to find it and hopefully they like what they
find bro. Well, and Speaking of that, like
a this is a cheap plug for me. Let me just little Segway going
back to like wanting people to find music, right.
This whole resurgence of me deciding to put out an EP is
because of a a a little tiny group of people scattered
intestines records, you know, and I didn't know who these
motherfuckers were. I don't like I don't know
anything. I I'm just a guy.
I live in my own world. I got kids, a wife and all this
shit. I'm getting hit up and they're
like, hey, man, can we like we're a small label and we're
we're into like preserving horror core, past horror core.
That's like forgotten lost media and like you're one of the
goats. And I'm like, I know I'm not I'm
you know, you know, I recorded that in an attic like whatever,
but they were like your albums are so dope.
Can we re release them? And then like, so we'll put out
cover art. We'll do this, we'll do that and
you just give us your PayPal and then you'll get money and I'm
like, I don't have to do anything and I get money and
they're like, yeah, I'm like then yes, yeah, totally fine.
So they re released all my stuff and they've been doing that for
a bunch of old school guys. But that's what led me to
wanting to record like a 5-6 track EP is because they're
these small little group of guys and they're trying so hard to
preserve the art of horror core and like, Hey, pay attention to
these guys. They they were the shit.
They still are the shit and I was like, you guys think if I
recorded an EP for you, would it like help you, you know, because
you know, I mean, I don't I don't like you said, we look at
ourselves like we're just regular dudes.
I'm just a fucking goon with a basement full of movies.
And they were like, absolutely, if you would do that'd be so
fucking amazing. And so I kind of got bit by the
bug and have been recording a couple new songs and I hope it
helps them. You know, I mean, I hope it
helps them more than it helps me type of deal.
Like, but fucking wild there are I mean, there are people like
you out there doing that. Like let's keep keep the fucking
genre in the in the eyes, you know?
It's I'm happy, like I want to thank them for bringing you
back, but I also think that was just a small part of the puzzle
for you to do this EP. And when I say that, I mean the
timing for this seems perfect, at least from an outsider's
perspective. They hit you up with that
proposal, right? We want to re release your
stuff. So that planted a seed in your
head. Like I guess people still care
about this. And now the fact that you've
been getting back into ICP and shit lately, I think that
combination of that little seed of like my old music is back out
there and now like you're creative again.
The Horror Story was always there, but you're a hip hop
head. So you're doing the hip hop
stuff for a while and then you're just completely retired,
you know, completely from doing any music.
And you, I was so angry when you sold your mic and all that shit,
Bro. I remember you telling me about
that. I'm like, this guy's really
giving up, my God. But, and over the years I always
tried. I even, I think I asked you
like, man, can I do an arson trade trading card?
And like, I don't think you were against it, but you weren't that
enthusiastic about it either. So I just never pushed the, you
know, I never pushed the subject.
But like, I think with these guys, putting that seed in your
head and then like you're just getting back into the wicked
shit in general, which bro, so fucking.
It made me so happy when you're first.
I didn't even believe them. I saw them post up some shit
like we're releasing arc arcs and trade music.
And I'm like, I remember I messaged you.
I'm like, bro, are these guys just talking shit?
Like who are these guys? And you're like, Nah, they're
they're did it. I've been talking to them.
I'm like, Oh my God, that's fucking sick.
But I didn't know when new music was going to come out of it.
Yeah, and then and then with Tyson rapping and then you
started doing some shit with him.
I'm like, yes, it's all coming together.
My fucking dreams are back to reality.
So it's fucking amazing bro. I've always been a fan of yours.
I think because you are such a hip hop head and music head you
are that much better because you actually have fucking skills as
an MC so you can rap about anything you want.
Lucky for me, you fucking love horror, so you just happen to
wrap the style I like. So yeah.
Oh my God, make my head real big.
You just stroke my ego super big.
That's all right. Go record another song now bro.
I will. But yeah, so like a lot of
things did kind of fall into place with that because I don't
know if you saw one of the episodes of the podcast, I
interviewed Germ from Lyrical Front, who's Lyrical Front's a
local rap group and they they came up with me.
They're young kids and I kind of like, you know, would teach them
how to rap. Like you say the AB CS, the
beats so you can land on, you know, and but they last year,
one of their members on the live themselves.
I got to be careful how I say those words.
Yeah. The two remaining members of
Lyrical Front Germ and Nate Payne.
You know, you react to tragedy differently.
So like Nate, he went the full blown, like I'm never going to
rap again. I want to be like a counselor.
I want to, you know, I, I, if I can stop anyone from unaliving
themselves, you know, he's really like fighting for the
cause and Germ to like grieve properly.
He's like, I'm going to record a solo album and it's going to be
all over the place. They'll be like horror stuff.
There's going to be like party stuff, but there's going to be
some sad shit. And he reached out to me and he
said, hey, man, if I release a solo album, could I get a verse
from you? And I was like, well,
absolutely, man, you know, because I mean, we all grew up
together and we all, you know, became adults and went our
separate ways and those type of things.
And when someone, when the homies call, you know what I
mean? And it's like, hey, I just need
you, you know? And I was like, well, yeah,
dude, like come fucking spit 16 for you in your closet or
whatever. So that happened.
And then, yeah, my son getting into hip hop and like he does
all his stuff on his own. And he had his first album and
he was like, will you do a verse for me?
And I said, yeah, of course I. So I did a verse for him.
And now him and I, this will be the first time I've ever said
this out loud. We're recording a group project.
Can I say it? It's called Bloodlines because.
Yes. That's the group is Bloodlines.
Fuck yes bro, that's awesome. Yeah, so I don't know how many
tracks it's going to be. We haven't decided.
Maybe Tyson's holding up 8. He says 8 tracks so.
Perfect, perfect number. And he's in charge of it all.
He's producing it, he's mastering it.
I just write verses so. But it's cool, you know, again,
it's a it's something that I get to do and I get to do with my
family. But the ICP stuff, I'm going to,
I'm going to thank my wife because like I said, we've been
married for fucking ever. And she was like so anti ICP
when we got together. She's just be like, I can't, I
can't listen to that. Like, so if you're going to
listen to it, don't listen to it around me.
I don't like it. And so I basically had to, like,
anytime I'm in the car by myself, I like, that's the only
time I can vibe to the music. Yeah.
Slowly I started trickling in music over the past year or so.
And she'd be like, that's not bad, That one's not bad.
That's not bad. And then I kind of had to break
it down, like, why don't you like them?
And it was like, well, because it's all about murder and, you
know, all this. And I'm like, yes and no.
So then curate a pic, you know, like 1011 songs, Like, listen to
these. Yeah.
Because there's a little bit more to it than that.
And then she was like, all right, I'm in.
And so then it made it to where like everybody in the family is,
is in so I don't have to hide it.
Hell, it is, you know, So feels good, feels good.
Like it's, you know, I don't know if it's midlife crisis or
what, but you know what I mean? It feels good.
No, I think it's destiny, bro. It's big me nagging you every
once in a while, every few years.
Hey, you want to come back? And then I don't, you know, I, I
broke the subject and then I don't push it, but now's the
time, bro. I'm fucking thrilled.
And it sounds awesome that you're having fun with it.
And that's my favorite part. He's like, yeah, I get to listen
as a fan to new arson music. But like the fact that you, as
my friend, are having a good time with this, it's fucking
amazing. Bro yeah dude I appreciate it.
I have no questions that are left but I have some hot takes
so I'm going to ask you some random things that are AB
choice. OK, hey, your hot takes.
OK, you can go into it if you want or not.
All right, let's see. Let's see bro.
All right #1 Freddy or Jason? Chasing all day bro.
Fucking a hot dogs or pizza? Oof.
I'm going to say pizza, but that's probably the Italian in
me because bro, I don't think hot dogs get enough fucking
credit for how dope they can be. And I'm going to say this, it's
not around anymore. There's a couple of spots, but
close to where I used to live at my parents' house, there was a
spot that was like essentially, not gourmet hot dogs, but they
had the craziest toppings on hot dogs, bro.
And I'm talking about everything from like a chili dog, yeah,
with some jalapenos and shit to a peanut butter and Jelly hot
dogs. Like bro, just crazy shit.
And anytime you thought one sounded like shit, it tasted the
best. So.
So pizza or hot dog? I don't know bro, but fuck
that's a tough one bro. Yeah, yeah, because.
Give me a fucking go ahead. Yeah, New York hot dogs and New
York pizza man. Like I mean.
That's the thing, I mean, and I don't care what anyone says,
bro, people, even some people that I work with, we're in New
York. They say ah, Connecticut is the
place for pizza. No bro New York fucking pizza
all day or. I can brag about Connecticut
pizza. That's some weird shit.
Stupidest shit ever bro. It's yeah, I'm going to say
pizza just for our sake here, but do not underestimate a hot
dog. Bro, you go to Connecticut for
wheat fins. I don't know, it's fucking
whatever. That's some.
Bull Connecticut. It's good for nothing bro,
that's all. Yeah, not even hauntings, but
WWFWCW. I will say, you know the
tribalism that goes on today with WWEAW, that was a thing
back in the day, the Monday Night Wars, right?
Yeah, dude, fuck Attitude error was everything for all of us,
bro. Like, I think WWF, but WCW was
fucking good at a point, man. I love the fucking NWO shit,
that Wolfpack shit, bro. I loved another thing that
doesn't get enough credit, especially for wrestling.
Now. Raven's Flock, yeah, greatest
fucking faction in my eyes bro. I loved everything about that.
But I'm also a huge mark for stables and factions in general.
But I got to go with WWF on this A or B test bro.
I get you, I get you. There's nothing wrong with that.
When you were growing up, did you ever two TV's side by side
so you didn't have to miss? The channel changer bro, we
would watch, you know at that time Nitro started at 8 and Raw
started at 9:00. So you know you're getting a
full hour of WCW first, so no clipping needed.
But then when Raw started it was immediately go to that Channel
and then during commercials of Raw go back to fucking WCW bro.
I feel you, I can't be mad at you.
I do want to say this though, my Co host Mr. Evil Dead Inks who
is not here today. Absolutely hates WCWI can never
get him to say a fucking good word about WCW.
The dub. C Dub.
Dude that blows my mind especially I mean obviously you
know him more than I do but like bro WCW the the days of Sting
when Vader was in WCW it was way better than WWF Vader like Actus
Jack in WCW. Now I love Mick Foley, favorite
wrestler of all time, so his stuff in WWF was also awesome.
But practicing WCW and ECW? Fucking incredible bro.
Like the fact that Chris doesn't like that stuff.
I don't know bro. Something must have happened to
him bro. Must have, yeah, 'cause dude,
I'm like a total mark mark for La Parka.
And shit, there were. So many guys in WCW that were
fire. That like that.
That never were like WWF guys like, you know what I mean?
So yeah, I get it. I get it.
So, yeah, but all right, next one.
This is a tough one. Maybe not for you, but Q
Strange, Bobby Knight, that's a deep cut for anybody listening
who don't know. And if you don't know, look up Q
Strange and then look up Bobby Knight.
Damn bro it's crazy because there's like different criteria
that you could look at this at right?
Like MC wise Q strange all day, more storytelling.
They're both actually pretty fucking good, but I give it a
few strange. I don't know.
For me at the time of learning about both them, I think Bobby
Knight, although all records point to him being a fucking
terrible human being. But music alone I got to go.
Bobby Knight just for my personal fucking opinion.
Bro, I have not heard, I don't know any of the hullabaloo about
him being a bad guy. So that's, yeah, that's not.
Trash human, bro. He's ripped me off for money.
He's ripped everybody off for money.
It's yeah, he's not a good. Guy in the edge, you still gave
him the edge. Look at you see non biased up in
this motherfucker. That's what I'm saying bro.
People out here, they don't know, man.
I'll tell you this, I'm a massive Q strange mark I I push
Q strange on my kid all the time I'm like creation execution is
like one of the best horror core albums of all time.
Yes, I was a big Bobby night mark when I was on Cutthroat
because the person who ran Cutthroat, listen to them a lot
now. Now when I go and listen to
Bobby Knight, really good stories, you know, excellent
production, but the older I am, his voice grades on me a little
bit. Dude, I actually really still
love his voice. Again, it's not something that I
can in good faith show to people.
Like, hey, listen to this shit that I think is dope because
they're going to just laugh in my face.
But that aside, I still do personally enjoy it.
I was just listening to fucking White Cross's album again the
other day. Six side, you know?
But of the personalities of Mark, the real life man, I think
Frankie Frank is way better bro. Hell yeah, dude.
That's what's up. All right.
This this is another horror core, I suppose.
Hot take Esham brother Lynch. I got to go Esham.
I think there's years in there where Esham was just straight
garbage. But barring that as an overall
arching fucking dopeness, I I go Esham, although I still bumble
old school brother Lynch from time to time too.
His new shit not so much, although the shit he did on
Strange was fucking fire. That's another hard one, bro.
You're coming with the fucking heat today.
But overall Esham and I actually was just listening to he just
put out a new album. I don't know if you know the
golden hour, I think it's called a golden ages and I only
listened to like 2 or 3 tracks but starting off pretty good bro
pretty good. I was going to ask if you'd
listen to it. I skimmed through a couple
minutes. I was, I was really curious
about the production because Eshom is known for like he has a
very specific sound and a couple of tracks that I skimmed didn't
have that Eshom sound. So I was nervous, you know?
But again, we're we're old heads and we're used to the way it
was. It's really hard to accept when
things start to change and over modern beats that I'm not overly
fond of or switching the flow a little bit so they sound modern
or whatever. But I'm going to give that album
a full go through. But I also agree with you on the
Eshom tip because Eshom had about 15 years where he could
not miss. Yeah.
And I think Brother Lynch has season of the sickness and you
know, you know, a couple tracks here and there that are real,
real fire. But.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear you on that, bro.
Yeah, that's why I definitely give the edge Tiki Sham on that
one as well, man. Hell yeah, dude.
All right, This is for the 80s babies.
Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior. I got to go holster, bro.
Yeah, has to do it as much again.
The record shows that neither one of those guys was the
greatest humans. But we didn't fucking care about
that shit growing up, bro. We were watching Warrior coked
out of his mind run to the ring and we watched Hogan do his
three moves that he knows how to do and that was it.
That's all we needed. But Hulkster bro, I don't care
what anyone says. Also, Mike Presence, because he
was intelligible, was Hulk Hogan, you know, So, I mean, he
might not have been his cut as the Warrior, but he did carry
WWF for a number of years. He was the face.
So yeah, yeah, for sure. Agree.
Agree 100%. Hogan knows best, if you will.
All right. This is tough even for me.
So scream factory Arrow. You know why that's tough?
Because they release a lot of the same shit.
I think for me, and I don't know if it's like a weird loyalty
thing, so I'm going to go Scream Factory.
And the reason why I brought the loyalty thing is, even though
they never sent me anything ever again, my first real like
boutique label things to review when we started, the website
that I got was six titles from Scream Factory from the the PR
guy running in at the time. And then I could never get
anything ever again. So either he hated my fucking
reviews or he just hated me as a human or whatever it was.
But I think that little like, Oh my God, this start that really
started my movie collecting like crazy hardcore.
And I think that's how I learned about boutique labels in general
was like scream factory like to me.
I I still if I fucking hear about these companies like I
listen bro, I own everything, synapse, Severin, arrow, scream
factory, fucking Bestron, all this shit 88 films.
I scream factory is still my favorite and I still to get the
most like childlike, you know, I redid my movie room recently,
which is what I'm sitting in now and I'm looking at my screen
factory shelf. That's the shit that I get the
most excited about, bro, going over there and like trying to
pick a movie to watch. And it's no secret that a lot of
my shit is still shrink wrapped because I don't get time to
watch movies every fucking day. But I'll pick a new one, take it
out of the fucking wrap, even though it's been on my shelf for
years and I'll go watch it and it's fucking amazing.
So screen factory all day, bro. A long winded answer there, but.
They nothing wrong with that man.
And also I think they got it's, it's petty.
I think they got the edge because they got Devin Whitehead
and Devin Whitehead's art. Not often will I just buy a
movie because it gets new cover art.
But my God, every time he draws something, I'm like, you win,
you know? Couldn't agree more bro, he's
fucking incredible. Yeah.
So I got two more since you had said like, you know, you don't
really have the time to sit and just watch movies.
You know, that's why a lot of stuff is still shrink wrapped
because we have, we have lives, you know, we have things to do.
Otherwise we would get really big and out of shape if all we
did was sit on our couch and watch movies.
So you brought it up at the beginning of the podcast, but
weights or cardio? That's a no brainer bro.
Weight training all day every day bro.
But you'll get tired bro. Bro fucking weight training
baby. That's right, I'll squish you.
Yeah, exactly. I mean listen, as I get older I
know the importance of cardio but I still fucking hate it.
Well, dude, I don't, I don't think anyone enjoys cardio.
Like I'll say, you know, my son, who is he never gets tired.
His he, his gas tank is through the roof, but it's because he
does so much cardio every day. When he does cardio, he's like,
I hate running. You know, they, they want him.
They've asked him to join track or cross country and you know,
he's like, no, I don't, I don't want to run for you.
Like I don't run because I like to run.
I run so I get tired and get punched in the head.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they're definitely benefits, bro.
And the smart man would say it's cardio.
Fuck, wait, but I don't know bro.
I just as much as I grew up, like you said, we're man
children like I grew up and we talked about it a lot here.
Fucking professional wrestling, these larger than life Jack
dudes comic books. You're not going to see a fat
fuck superhero unless it's the BLOB.
Action heroes. Schwarzenegger, Stallone.
That's what I'm saying, yeah. Everything we grew up on
hammered in my brain. You got to be fucking Jack, bro.
Like, and I love going to the gym and fucking abusing myself,
bro. Whatever that means about me, I
don't know, but slamming fucking weights and now listen, I don't
even do heavy shit anymore bro, my tendons can't take it and I'm
an old fucking man now but like I got to have a pump bro I'm
sorry. I'm with you.
I like it. No, no issues.
Our weight training coincides essentially with our cardio
because we do a lot of functional movement training,
you know, martial arts stuff. So we're.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's it's both I guess.
That's why it should be both. Honestly that's the right
answer. But for A&B?
Might as well call some controversy bro.
Speaking of controversy, that's how I'm going to end it with
you. I saw, I think it was today you
had a post. It was either today or
yesterday. Because is there a new Twisted
as a new album out maybe? Or a new song?
No, a new song dude. I'm glad you brought this up.
New song. So my final hot takes Insane
Clown Posse or Twisted? Are you a are you a Twizzler?
Let's just get it. Listen bro, I support both.
I still buy ICP shit, I still buy everything twisted that I
can H OK whatever they're doing. I think twisted is better in
almost every way but I can't deny what ICP has done for my
life. Which sounds fucking crazy.
But like who I am today partially and big partially is
like because of ICP. Like the shit that I'm into or
maybe I was already into it and they just helped me bring it
out. I don't know.
But ICP bro go like it's I. I think my answer has to be ICP
because it's like the whole Culkin question, bro.
Like it's undisputable. Like just the influence that
they've had that people don't even fucking know about.
Like, and to take it further, you know, we were talking about
it before, like going from ICP to twisted to this, this bro,
how many fucking Kottonmel Kings fans would there be without ICP?
Not many. Like they've influenced things
that people don't even know they fucking influence.
So the answer for that can only be ICP.
But I fucking love Twisted bro. Like if you have not heard that
new track it's wicked as fuck. It's called Keep it Safe and
they can fucking rap still bro. They are the wicked shit still.
So I know you don't like their rock shit half the time I don't
like their rock shit either. But people need to stop being so
like you said before with something else.
It's either love or hate bro. You can hate that rock shit, but
these dudes sometimes there was a couple of years ago bro, they
put out a rock album the the fucking Halloween album.
I don't know if it was fucking Part 2 or Part 3 of whatever
they were doing. The songs of Sam Haines shit, so
straight up wicked shit. Then they put out the EP almost
a year they put out the East Side Ninjas EP with ABK and
Blaze which was like a street type shit.
Then they put out the fucking. Riders, yeah.
Yeah, then they put out Electric Lettuce, which was just a weed
head fucking pot smokers EP all in one year.
And you're telling me I hate Twisted because of their rock
shit? Bro, I don't get, I can't see
why. Like I get you like you're into
the ICP shit now, you've always been ICP and you like twisted
old shit, I get it. But like bro, when they put out
some shit, you got to give them credit because they can still
fucking flow and they can still rap.
And if you listen to their both newest solos, there's no rock
shit on any of them, bro. They're both rapping.
So I think people are blind to a lot of shit and they just pick
and choose. But.
Well, I think a lot of that has to do and that's where some of
the negativity comes in because I think a lot of it is just like
a blind follow, which is where, you know, I mean, going back to
the Cottonmouth Kings thing, ICP did a song with Cottonmouth
Kings called Think for Yourself. You know, it's kind of you got
to do that. And that's where growing up and
and being an adult and having a mind of your own, really, you
know, as opposed to just I'm influenced by this because this
is everything, you know, to where you can step back and go
yes and no. Like you can you can tell me
that this person's bad or whatever, whatever.
But if I think they got a banger of a track, you know, it's kind
of like the Victor Salvo argument.
Like you're not allowed to like Jeepers Creepers.
Like, no, I am I I just Salvo's disgusting.
I love Jeepers Creepers. But yeah, you know, Oh yeah.
You know, so that's kind of that deal.
Like you can like Michael Jackson too, but you don't like
what Michael Jackson does. Right.
Exactly. There's so many people and
there's so many people that were never going to find out the
truth about that. We enjoy their artistry, you
know, Like it is what it is. Bro.
I'm with you, man. I can separate the two, you
know, the real life from the art and whatever, but I get it.
I get everyone's perspective. So yeah.
Well, I suppose, man, on that note, now that you've you've
gone through the gauntlet of hot takes, before we wrap this up,
why don't we just let everybody listening, watching, however
they're consuming this, know where they can find you, what
you're doing, and yeah, all of that good stuff.
Aw man, I'm doing fucking a little bit of everything and a
lot of nothing also at the same time.
So if you want to find me, YouTube Frank Falchi, you'll
find me repulsive. reviews.com is still up, even though we're
not really actively writing reviews.
It still exists in all its glory.
Hardcore wiki.com for all your hardcore needs.
My personal social and shit. I have the repulsive reviews.
Frank Colchi Instagram I have the my personal 1.
You can try to find it if you want.
I have ring Craft 3D for 3D printing shit.
If you're a fucking wrestling mark and a figure collector, hit
me up and I can do shit that you imagine in your head that I
haven't done before. So let's work on some custom
shit. I think that's it bro.
I don't know a little bit of everything like I said, so I'm
all over the place. You'll find it.
I'm sure Rodger will be fucking cool enough to fucking link all
that stuff for me too, so. We'll definitely put all of that
stuff in the description. Dude, It's been awesome having
you sit here and shoot the shit with me.
We really need to do this more often, you know, because we
don't get enough face to FaceTime, you know?
Yeah, we've known each other for a billion years.
We talk all the time, but we don't talk like this so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, listen, I want to
thank you again, man. Like, no, it's funny because
like normally I say no to shit like this, bro.
Because even though I do videos and stuff on my own, I don't
know, I get in my head like my first thought is never like
that's dope. Even though it is, it's Oh my
God, I'm scared. That's just, you know, my brain
how it works. But I'm trying to get more into
saying yes to shit. And bro, like you said, we've
been homies forever so why the fuck wouldn't I do this?
You know? So I hope I didn't fucking yap
your head off bro. I can get crazy with my thoughts
and shit, but I'm fucking I want to thank you bro.
And yeah, man, I'm glad we did this and hopefully we can do it
again, like you said, man. Fuck, yeah, man, we will.
So, all right, I suppose on that note, we should probably get
going because after all, there's a lot of movies out there and
somebody's got to watch them. That doesn't work for this
interview. But either way, right?
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