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You're darn looking that we got 
Danny Hessel on the deep cut. 

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Podcast. 
I think I'm dying here, man. 

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Welcome to the 3D. 
Video. 

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Deep cut podcast, watch a few 
movies, take a. 

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Few notes, it was fun. 
Oh yeah, it's that time again 

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for another podcast with your 
host Rotten Roger DeMarco. 

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And today I'm doing something a 
little bit different. 

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I have reached out to one of the
coolest mother effers on the 

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planet. 
I have contacted a dream master,

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an American badass, and an all 
around rad dude. 

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I know you thought I was going 
to say one Major League hunk he 

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he may be, but you know I'm here
with the one and only Danny 

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Hassell. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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That's Dustin, a bro. 
Yeah, man, thank you for that 

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intro and all those nicknames. 
Not that I'm that into myself, 

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but I they're earned. 
He's just really a nickname they

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get, you know what I mean? 
I was in the military, bro. 

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And then of course, everyone 
calls everyone Hollywood. 

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That's like a popular, right, 
You know, because there were 

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there were actually in the 
military, there are more dudes 

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that were pretty boy than me. 
They got they got the Hollywood 

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nickname, right? 
Yeah, maybe even because they 

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wanted to call me Hollywood 
because of my background. 

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But then there were other pretty
boys that were like, Hey, Holly 

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that So they they got the 
Hollywood name. 

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But one time I don't want to get
into the mission, but I did some

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really cool stuff and this old 
country general was like that 

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dude was shit hot, shit hot. 
He's so shit hot. 

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And this one guy goes, yeah, 
that's hot, shit hassle. 

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And boom dude, for the rest of 
my career I was hot shit hassle.

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That's what's up, dude. 
Yeah, So for the folks out there

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that don't know Mr. Danny Hassle
not only can whoop Freddy 

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Krueger's ass on occasion, but 
has done many of many of things 

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and like I said, an American, 
American badass, you know. 

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Oh. 
Yeah, brother, I, I mean, well, 

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I'm not going to eat. 
Politics will follow you. 

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Who cares? 
But yeah, I joined the military.

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So that's I'm one of those 
weirdos and yeah, and I, I not 

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only did I join the military, I 
joined the Army Rangers during 

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the IT was 2002 to 2010. 
So I went overseas 3 times to 

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each Afghanistan and Iraq and, 
you know, there and we listened.

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Like when you say when you're 
attached to Task Force of the 

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Rangers, the longest you're 
going to do is probably four 

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months. 
I actually did six months one 

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times. 
And so it's not, you know, a 

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year each time. 
However, it's all direct action.

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Like I was not going to bragging
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this, my friend was asking like,
actually, how many missions did 

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you actually go on? 
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out and it was, it got over like
400. 

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It was, it was like 400. 
Yeah, dude, you know, and these 

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are like this isn't it? 
It was pretty intense brother. 

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I just, I always I don't have. 
Like I said, I zigged when I was

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supposed to and zagged when I 
supposed to. 

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I was gonna say man, and you 
made it back, which is. 

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That's all above, yeah. 
That's why I'm enjoying being an

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artist, you know, because that 
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complete different spectrums, 
you know what I'm saying? 

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And what a journey, that's a 
trip, you know what I mean? 

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So. 
Hey man, you know, we only live 

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once and I'm a I'm a firm 
believer in that It's like any 

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weird thing that you want to 
accomplish, do it. 

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Go for. 
It no, you know what, right, 

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Everyone thinks I was like some 
I'm not like a flag waving 

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patriot and all that stuff. 
I I was just my family's poor 

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dude. 
Having to being in the military 

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is actually a good gig for 
people. 

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You know, if you're point where 
I go get it's a job, you know, 

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but of course I went for the 
crazy shit and became a Ranger 

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and then got attached to seal 
teams and Delta Force and all 

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that crap. 
But but what was my point out? 

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It was, it was, it wasn't more, 
it was what you said. 

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It was like, if I don't do it 
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never be able to say it. 
I'm one of those kind of people.

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It's like method acting. 
It's like, no, dude, I want to 

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know what it's like. 
Then I can portray it pretty 

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good. 
You know, so I was, I was 35 

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years old when I joined the 
military, which is the absolute 

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oldest you can be. 
Cut off, yeah. 

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Yeah, and at that time, you 
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.0? 
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So it wasn't more or less the 
patriotism. 

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It was more or less let's do 
this before. 

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You can never do it. 
And then you're going to be a 

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shoulda coulda woulda guy. 
Oh, I could have said no. 

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And I don't, not that I but I'm,
I'm the opposite. 

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I'm like, I, I jump, jump in 
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Just go for it, dude. 
And then we'll figure it out on 

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the way down. 
That that's the best way to live

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life, dude, you know, so which 
which brings me like, I know 

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you, you've, you know, you've 
got this stuff committed to 

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memory because you've, you've 
told these stories numerous 

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times. 
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want to ask you, you know, how 
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Like, you know, like you said, 
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OK, yeah, I'll tell it's not 
it's a because you know what 

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everybody's story is different 
and obviously now to make 

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because when I I people want 
advice on how to get into the 

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industry and I'm like, dude, if 
I knew that I would you know 

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what I mean, right? 
You're I don't have a different 

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house you. 
Know I don't. 

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Know so but so in all 
seriousness so I did a little 

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bit of theatre in Northern 
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was a jock I was like a pretty I
was a jock you know I mean not a

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weird 1 though I wasn't a Dick I
had like multiple crazy ass 

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friends I had friends from. 
All this the standard 

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stereotypical 80s movie jock 
like you weren't. 

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A yeah, yeah, I wasn't a Dick at
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Like that's why the movie was 
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Like I was like even in 
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friends with Andros Jones, the 
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he's like hipster or whatever, 
you know, I mean, jocks and him 

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back in in the 80s real, I 
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you know, we had clips in the 
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It was really stupid. 
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I, you know, I mean, dude, I 
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I didn't have this any kind of 
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I had friends that were my 
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could be like punk rockers, 
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knows? 
You know what I mean? 

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They are from everywhere, you 
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Yeah. 
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of lived. 
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were musicians. 
I knew some families that were 

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into the arts, but mostly I was 
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And then but I tried acting. 
Was that in high school you did 

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like you did? 
Yeah, I tried. 

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I kind of dabbled and was like, 
whoa, these guys are pretty 

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good. 
I'm like, I'm in the wrong 

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building, you know what I mean? 
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So then now I'm getting ready to
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then, if you didn't have the SAT
scores and all that, you weren't

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going to the PAC 10. 
But it was bad PAC 12, whatever.

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I was a good football player. 
So I got channelled into a 

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junior college system, which is 
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sports, right? 
So I, I go, I play one season at

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this college called Shasta 
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But I was still again 
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Like my elective was like 
acting, you know, I took an 

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acting class and I checked it 
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And so then that summer of my 19
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other people who were in the 
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But the sports world also has 
agents that also get you into 

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like, you know, commercials or, 
you know, endorsements and 

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things like that or acting. 
Some of the guys actually just 

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have actors, some of them 
athletes that are actors that I 

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met this one guy and he's like, 
are you interested in? 

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Because I think you could do 
commercials, blah, blah. 

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And he's like, no, if you come 
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no, he was like, you know, he 
was a real manager, right? 

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Yeah, but he was involved with 
this, this company called Santa 

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Rosa Repertory Theatre. 
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And that's like these kids have 
been doing theatre and then they

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they date their summer as they 
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Santa Rosa, Right. 
This is Santa Rosa, CA. 

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I think it's at the junior 
college there. 

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OK, bro. 
So I go, oh, I'm going to try 

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out. 
I go there bro. 

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These. 
Kids could tap dance, you know 

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what I mean? 
Fucking. 

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I'm all yeah. 
They only have like 3 

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monologues. 
Also I can do when dudes like 

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pirouetting. 
I'm just like yeah this is real 

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acting bro. 
Like, so I just got not even any

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love except for I'm leaving. 
And this one person was like, 

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hey, call the guy in LA. 
He goes, yeah, this is a little 

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above you, but you you could 
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that. 
Long story short, I end up going

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to Los Angeles, call the guy, 
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then went to acting schools. 
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still, I'm still playing 
football and I actually turned 

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down going to SC because people 
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This is when USC was really 
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It was before the Pete Carroll 
era, but it was right. 

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There still is a great, you 
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scholarship, but when even when 
you're on scholarship, they 

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don't feed you until school 
starts and all you know, so 

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you're starving, man. 
Like, you know, for a person 

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that they have. 
I was straight up working in 

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supermarkets and like waiting 
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And then I, I got a national 
commercial that got me into an 

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apartment. 
You know, I still didn't have a 

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car in LA because LA you got to 
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And yeah. 
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just at that point then yes, I, 
I took it kind of not serious 

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per SE, but it was, it's like a 
trade, you know, like, oh, this 

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is a job you. 
So I met with like acting 

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coaches and people like that and
I started taking acting stuff, 

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you know, like I was learning 
about it more because it's I 

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didn't know Jack shit, dude. 
I didn't know the stage left. 

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I didn't know the window. 
Blocking and all that hoopla. 

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Yeah, all those right, the 
lingo, I was a trust me, it was 

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pretty embarrassing. 
Not embarrassing, just like, oh 

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shit, these guys have been doing
this for a while, you know? 

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So that helped with that. 
So you just I learned. 

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The lingo. 
You moved. 

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You just moved straight out to 
LA. 

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You were like, fuck it did. 
Caution to the wind, the 100. 

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Bucks 1500 bucks in a piece of 
shit car and then the car broke 

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down. 
I still got a pad spent all my 

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money on the pad and then the 
homie that was supposed to come 

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bailed and he only he moved to 
the Bay Area and now I I ended 

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up spending all I ended up 
getting evicted 6 months into it

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because I had an hour got off. 
I remember I was living. 

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I was like camping in my 
apartment. 

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Dude, I mean, you know, that's 
part of the grind. 

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That's the hustle. 
You know, a lot of people don't 

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understand going out there and 
and chasing that like you're not

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the first one to have that idea.
You know what I mean? 

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Like they're. 
They're so it's it's like a. 

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Shark Tank out there? 
The thing is, it, it was it, it,

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well, that and yeah, and it's, 
it's really hard for even 

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musicians. 
That's what I don't like about. 

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Well, that's just the way it is,
dude. 

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The best dudes are usually the 
broke guys. 

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They barely have a place to 
rehearse, you know what I mean? 

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Dudes are sleeping on each 
other's couch just to keep the 

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band together or, you know, all 
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Even with acting, you know, oh, 
you got to come in here and do 

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your best and you're like, bro, 
I got to worry about getting 

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paid, you know, my rent. 
LA is like becoming the most 

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expensive city in the States, 
you know? 

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So it's like, and then now, but 
the good part about it was 

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because of how even what we're 
doing right now, you don't 

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necessarily have to live here 
anymore. 

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Actually, you don't. 
Yeah, you really don't. 

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And that's huge because that way
you can at least not go broke, 

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kind of do what you want to do. 
Right. 

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Yeah, you can create in your own
space and you don't have to go. 

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Yeah, honestly, that's in all 
seriousness, because I, I still 

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play music. 
I I've done bands, I had a band 

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and I still like, I still like 
to play music, you know, not 

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just like, I still like to do 
it. 

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So yeah. 
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where you're at in Iowa and like
people that are away from 

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cities, they just stick to their
own crap and go play in their 

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backroom where they got a studio
where they can make noise and 

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shoot guns and drink beer or 
whatever the fuck, you know, 

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like, no one's going to say shut
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You know what, I'm just sitting.
You got to have like lockout 

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rooms or whatever, dude, 
everything. 

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And then just trying to film in 
Los Angeles because they're 

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going to hear such a dipshit or 
like permit fucking this that 

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it's just like, dude, it's a 
waste of money. 

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Man, yeah. 
Where? 

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Where we live in the small town 
that we live, three years ago, I

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shot and directed like my first 
feature here. 

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And it's such a small town that 
we went to the City Council and 

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we're like, oh, can we block off
these streets on these days? 

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Can we shoot by this business? 
And they were like so thrilled. 

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They were like. 
They were like thumbs up. 

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That's what I exactly. 
That's why I love a great story.

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No, I work in Northern 
California and bro, when your 

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son was doing the cab my the guy
that I fuck with or work with. 

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Sorry, he you're good. 
He bro, it's him and his kid and

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like one other dude, you know, 
like, no, they frills. 

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He's a great director. 
He's a he's a very opinionated. 

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We can get into it. 
But like as far as efficiency 

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and making movies, it's it's 
rag, you know what I mean? 

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And like everybody probably, you
know, because making movies is 

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hard getting just distribute, 
actually finishing the project, 

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you know, and having a movie 
that's hard. 

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And that's what I can't really 
say that I dig acting so much. 

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You know, it's not like I go, 
Hey, you guys want to go to the 

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park and do some acting? 
Yeah. 

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I'm like, I don't think that's 
me, you know? 

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Otherwise I'd probably be in 
like some theater. 

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I love acting in movies, but 
what I really like is making 

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movies. 
Yeah, You know what I mean? 

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Yeah. 
You know, I like I like being 

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the actor part, but like, 
because I can fit it is on. 

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I don't care if it's the big 
part, the small part, whatever, 

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you know what I mean, As long, 
you know, that part's fun. 

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As long as I'm, you know, can 
handle the role. 

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But the whole process of making 
movies is pretty fun. 

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That's pretty fun. 
That's actually nerd shit. 

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Like I like the special effects,
the whole thing, you know what I

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mean? 
So like that part. 

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That's why I still, like I said,
I'm I this director, I work with

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the Northern California named 
Renee Perez. 

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I still if he called me 
tomorrow, I'd be like, let's do 

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it regardless of his crazy 
political views. 

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Right. 
Whatever the budget, whatever. 

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I've never. 
I don't know Oliver Stone or 

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like, what's the other Stanley 
Kubrick? 

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Those guys before, I'm pretty 
sure they rub people the wrong 

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way once in a while. 
You know what? 

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I. 
Mean so, yeah, you know. 

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Somewhere, some directors are 
just. 

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If you don't, it's their way or 
the highway. 

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Right. 
Yeah, I yeah, it needs to be 

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like this or you're fire. 
But but I think, you know, 

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that's that's the best part is 
the the collective of being 

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creative. 
You know, like you said all the 

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time, you're you're hanging out 
and you might not be on the 

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effects team, but you can hang 
out and talk to Kevin Yeager. 

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You know, you can talk to 
screaming Matt George or 

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whoever's doing the whatever 
like or Joe blow that's got the 

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squibs or whatever. 
And and. 

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What that was that job that 
those two jobs that I got back 

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then, I didn't know I was 
getting a black belt and special

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effects, you know what I mean? 
Because I was with the top of 

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the line dudes and like, but it 
was I got to do just because, 

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not because of me, but my 
character. 

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I got to do so many prosthetic 
pieces, arms, legs, face, 

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multiple face ones. 
Not just like, well, there's the

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wires in my face. 
That's like the famous picture 

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you see all over. 
But there's also the next 

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version of that where it's a 
whole skull cap over. 

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Yeah. 
And what's funny is a lot of 

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that you'll see in the movie or 
whatnot, but a lot of you see 

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out there and about like 
photographs or actually were 

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back then because they, they, 
they actually took it off of me 

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slowly and put it on the stunt 
drive. 

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Oh, nice. 
He was like, I could ride a 

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motorcycle really good but not 
nearly like this dude. 

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Yeah, like. 
You and also there's like a 

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liability like going on the 
freeway with an actor. 

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They're like, no. 
They say if you even if you dump

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it and like break your ankle and
then they're like, well shit, 

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now we can't shoot. 
With Danny for. 

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So there was only so many 
things, but then honestly, but 

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it was so rad brother. 
Because when like they would 

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switch back and forth between 
the dude and me. 

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And then when they filmed it, we
were on the sound stage. 

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It was all black. 
So it had like Infinity behind 

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it. 
You couldn't tell. 

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And then they would fill it with
smoke and, you know, stop going 

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by like I was riding on and then
I was up on a big platform on a 

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motorcycle that was moving in 
with wind. 

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So it was, it looked, it pulled 
it off, you know, it looked like

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I was riding the bike. 
Yeah, it looks like phenomenal. 

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No, you know what's funny is 
like I was saw now because we 

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have drones and even like the 
camera like the last movie I 

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just did, you can you know, you 
can use a drone and A and a 

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camera and that back in the day 
that would have cost like 

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thousands and millions like a 
Ruby. 

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All this to move this camera and
then actually all this stuff to 

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have all this dynamic stuff 
happening. 

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Now it's like 2 dudes with the 
camera and with my day there's 

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like the thing called the shop 
maker, this really intense car 

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truck where the camera was all 
on this car and dudes are 

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hanging off cliffs to get the 
picture and now you're like, 

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what the fuck do you do that 
for? 

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We got a drone dude. 
Yeah, go to Walmart. 

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It was like, no, there's like a 
guy hanging off a helicopter to 

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get the shot. 
Don't do that anymore. 

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Yeah, now you can go to Walmart 
for 300 bucks and get a drone 

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and be like if that falls. 
And your son could run it. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Instead of like $8 million on 

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this contraption that hangs over
the Cliff, you're like, yeah, I 

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don't do that anymore, but yeah,
that that's pretty cool because,

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you know, back then it was 
pretty like with the practical 

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effects for Nightmare four and 
five. 

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There was a lot of, like, a lot 
of crew, dude, like people just,

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you know, some guys working, 
like you said, like something 

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that moves either an animatronic
or like blowing smoke or like, 

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you know, just off 3 and with 
some wind, Yeah. 

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Throwing bags of leaves or 
whatever you know. 

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Honestly. 
Yeah. 

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So when you started and you and 
you did the the theater group 

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and then like, what was your 
first gig? 

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It was a commercial for for they
used to I don't now they don't 

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have them, but they like U-Haul.
But they used to have this 

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company called Ryder. 
It was these big yellow. 

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Trucks. 
And they they were like moving. 

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You rented them. 
They were just moving vans. 

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And yeah, I had a shot where 
like me and this other really 

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hot girl or like she was like, 
we're like moving with our 

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family, you know, And it was 
just like, that was, and it was 

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like, I auditioned. 
This is how funny my on the 

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audition. 
They're like, oh, I didn't even 

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have any lines. 
I like pick up a moving box, 

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look at the camera, kind of like
go to the truck, put it in 

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right, That's all right. 
That was it, that was it, right.

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And so when they rehearsed it 
like I, I didn't know how to, I 

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was like, and I went the wrong 
with like I was supposed to go 

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pick up the box and turn this 
way. 

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So I came in the calendar action
and I picked up the box and I 

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went this way. 
And then like out of frame they 

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were like, dude, wrong way. 
And I was so like, oh, oh, and I

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ended up getting a gig. 
And then back then if you got a 

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national commercial, it was 
pretty good money. 

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You know, like not like 
thousands and thousands, but a 

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pretty good gig. 
You know, I don't even know if 

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it's really like that anymore 
because television back then 

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there was still like 4 channels.
Cable wasn't like it is now, you

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know what I mean? 
So, so yeah, that was, that was,

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yeah, that was a Ryder truck 
commercial. 

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And then like my first real 
like, acting role, there was a 

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show called The New Gidget with 
this girl, this really pretty 

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girl named Sydney Penny. 
And I can't remember. 

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She was the main character. 
And it was like a kid show kind 

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of this popular, you know, it 
was like she was the old 

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character and then her and this 
other girl. 

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And then they had like, you 
know, scenarios or whatever. 

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And I got a pretty big role on 
that. 

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I worked with Frank Stallone, 
Sylvester Stallone, Brothers on 

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Yeah. 
And Ted Lang. 

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Direct that guy, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And then, but Ted Lang, you know
who Isaac is from The Love Boat.

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Yeah, yeah. 
He was the Bart burner. 

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He was the director. 
I was more starstruck with him. 

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I was like, no way. 
Fucking dude, Isaac. 

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So rad man. 
From The Love Boat, dude. 

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Yeah, it was pretty. 
Cool, but so there is one more. 

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Thing that was like, that was my
first acting, like that was on 

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television. 
The people don't even remember 

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the show. 
What was it called? 

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The new Gidget? 
Yeah, it's called the new 

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Gidget. 
It was like a television series,

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but it was more for like young 
people. 

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It's like a Saturday morning 
show. 

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Yeah, like a Clarissa explains 
it all type of deal. 

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Yeah, it was, she was like, they
were like young girls. 

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She wasn't like a kid, but she 
was like a it was like more of a

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kid show, you know? 
Yeah. 

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And but it was, it was popular. 
It was, it lasted a while. 

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So I don't know. 
And then and then after that, I 

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got on some pretty big like 
episodic television shows like 

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Murder, She Wrote. 
Yeah, I was gonna bring that up,

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buddy. 
Murder, She Wrote in Colombo. 

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Those are huge. 
Those, those are huge show. 

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That's right. 
No, those were huge shows. 

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Those were like pro shows. 
That's like working with the 

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pros. 
And then like it literally when 

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when I did Murder Shoot. 
Yeah, merging with Angela 

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Lansbury when we were on set. 
You do that at Universal Studios

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and the tour comes. 
By Oh Nice. 

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And you're just like, yeah, 
sorry, the actor, I'm sitting 

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down like there, you know, it 
was pretty, pretty cool, dude. 

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Pretty cool. 
That's rad, man. 

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And then when I did Colombo, I'd
tell you a cool story about 

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Peter Falk, bro. 
So I did Colombo and I played a 

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lifeguard and you know, he has a
thing where he's like one more 

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thing, you know, you talk. 
One more thing. 

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He's got his eye. 
He has a good eye and a bad eye,

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just to be honest. 
And I'm not being mean or 

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anything, but so when you look 
at him, you have to be like, oh 

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shit. 
Oh, there's his, you know, 

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00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,680
because he kind of has more an 
eye, you know? 

443
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,680
Yeah, he's got it. 
It's like it's a trip. 

444
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,160
So when you really face to face 
with him, I was like. 

445
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,360
Try not to laugh, you know. 
And so, yeah, and then he was 

446
00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,480
like, he's kind of clever and 
funny, you know, he's like, and 

447
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,160
he was the regular Colombo, but 
not anyhow, so. 

448
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,440
But dude, I did. 
My car broke down, but I took 

449
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,080
public trams to. 
That was at Burbank Studios, and

450
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240
there's a gate, you know, you 
can't just walk on the studios. 

451
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,520
And it's all like, you know, 
there's these people and you got

452
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,640
to have like, why are you here? 
You can't just walk on the 

453
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,160
studio. 
Right. 

454
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,840
Yeah, you have to have like. 
Yeah, exactly. 

455
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,120
So like, I didn't get a pass 
because I didn't have a car and.

456
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,320
Stuff I got off the. 
Bus walked down the sidewalk 

457
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,920
with all and not like regular 
people, but like people that got

458
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,280
off the bus, most of them 
weren't going to the studio. 

459
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,040
They were going to their regular
jobs or whatever. 

460
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,240
And I, I go to the studio and 
they're like, what do you need, 

461
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,520
dude? 
And I'm like, no, I'm working. 

462
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,120
And then at the same time, Peter
Falk like apparently had saw me 

463
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,880
because then when we got on the 
set that day, he goes, hey, kid,

464
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,640
he called me kid all the time 
because they were older. 

465
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,320
And you know, hey, kid, you 
know, like, hey, young kid, I 

466
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,120
was like 23. 
He's like, he's like, hey, kid, 

467
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,760
he goes, did you? 
He goes, you took public. 

468
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,960
You took the bus here. 
And I go, oh, yeah, do you like 

469
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,720
I didn't say do it in my car? 
And he goes, go talk to that guy

470
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,040
because they Hollywood guys, 
even I met, I met Al Pacino 

471
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,520
once. 
The older guys, they kind of 

472
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,720
still got this like almost like 
Italian gangster air. 

473
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,040
Like, I'm not like I'm so bad 
ass, but hey, I got, I can 

474
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,000
handle. 
I got you. 

475
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,760
Make a couple phone calls. 
I got you, I got you kid, you 

476
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,040
know some East Coast thing, you 
know not like for sure bro. 

477
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,600
I was like some old school. 
He was like I got you and I was 

478
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,760
like what? 
And then then the driver came 

479
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,600
and said what get can mail your 
address and all and then sure 

480
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,800
not do the Lincoln Town car pick
me up for the next like 4 days. 

481
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,520
Oh, that's. 
So bad dude, that's what's up. 

482
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,320
You're like, you're like 
chilling. 

483
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,520
Totally, bro. 
And it wasn't like a limo, but 

484
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,360
it was more even more gangster 
because it was a Lincoln like of

485
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:16,840
the small ones, you know what I 
mean? 

486
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,520
But it's definitely be someone 
being driven, you know? 

487
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,840
Yeah, Yeah. 
And it was super good. 

488
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,800
He paid for it and you know, 
obviously, you know. 

489
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,400
So yeah, it was pretty. 
He's nice, man. 

490
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,200
That's my Peter Faulk story. 
Cool dude. 

491
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,600
Dude, I, I grew up with Peter 
Faulk in my living room, you 

492
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,400
know, and Angela Lansbury, my, 
my mom was like, it's so funny 

493
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,400
when I was a young kid, you 
know, my mom loved stuff like 

494
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,760
that. 
And I'd be like in law and 

495
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,400
order, you know, and I'm like, 
like, let's watch anything else.

496
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,920
And now that I'm in my 40s, I'm 
like fucking Colombo and Murder 

497
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,640
She Wrote and Law and Order like
I love. 

498
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,160
Law and order. 
Murder Suit Rd. has its own, 

499
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,920
like, channel almost right? 
I don't know if you guys like 

500
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,800
it'll play 24 hours 'cause 
they're, dude, the show was on 

501
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,960
and out of quiet. 
I don't know how many seasons. 

502
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,760
So there's a crap ton of 
episodes. 

503
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,760
I mean, dude, yeah, they'll play
it like twice a year. 

504
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,880
I'll give a $25 check, you know,
for sometimes a $10 check, but 

505
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,040
it's, I always get one 'cause 
that show never stops. 

506
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:18,760
And Columbo, they, they still 
play all over Europe. 

507
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,200
I mean, that wasn't on the show 
long enough to make the real 

508
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,520
bunch of money, but but still, 
that show like those is pretty 

509
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:24,960
cool. 
Yeah. 

510
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:27,640
Oh, and then yeah, every time. 
The thing about that show, I 

511
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,040
can't remember who was else when
I was on Murder She Wrote. 

512
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,920
Do you remember Adam, 12? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the big cops 

513
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,640
are, yeah. 
Yeah, I was even kind of before 

514
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,200
my time. 
I can't, you know what I mean. 

515
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,600
It was like I I was, but I 
remember it right. 

516
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,120
Kind of the the there was two 
guys. 

517
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,320
There was a brown haired guy and
kind of a blonde haired guy. 

518
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,480
I don't really remember the 
names. 

519
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,280
I should have been that the 
other guy. 

520
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,800
He was the actor in Emergency 
Room. 

521
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,840
He's on Adam 12, and then the 
director was this guy, I think 

522
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,560
his name is Ivan Dixon. 
And he was on Hogan's Heroes, 

523
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,800
which is before my time, too. 
Yeah, but everyone that was on 

524
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,480
those shows was some kind of 
ledge, you know what I mean? 

525
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,520
Like, it was kind of rad. 
You're like, what? 

526
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,160
That guy. 
Yeah, they're like they're just 

527
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,920
kicking it on on syndicated TV 
now. 

528
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,480
They've done they've. 
Done their name. 

529
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,480
Some of them have passed away, 
but I'm just saying those shows 

530
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,000
because they were like it was 
all like old school heavy 

531
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,240
hitters. 
It was not young. 

532
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,480
It was kind of a that's what I 
mean. 

533
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,680
They were pro shows. 
Oh, you mean Simon and Simon? 

534
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,720
Simon Simon was a cool show, 
dude. 

535
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,320
Like those guys were cool back 
then. 

536
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,080
The two brothers, you know, they
were it. 

537
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,160
Was like. 
There was like the deep driving 

538
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,680
1 and then the sports car drive 
one or whatever. 

539
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,480
Yeah, like they were kind of 
opposites. 

540
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280
Whatever Cheryl Mccraney, I 
think his name was. 

541
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,800
They were cool as shit. 
They were nice guys. 

542
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,800
So those were super cool. 
Those appearances, those were 

543
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,280
pre Elm Street. 
Yeah, those are when you're. 

544
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,560
Yeah, you're right on the comma.
I have to think about it for a 

545
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,600
SEC. 
Yeah, you're right. 

546
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,600
Actually you're right. 
Yes. 

547
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,520
So how does that's when our. 
How does Elm Street like, land 

548
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,880
on your lap? 
So this is Yeah. 

549
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,640
So then out of the blue again, 
because Elm Street 3 honestly 

550
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,840
got got a lot of love out of 
even 1/2 went right in the 

551
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,480
toilet and then one had fans. 
People liked it, but not like 

552
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,360
through the roof, not even on 
the actually not even on the 

553
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,600
radar, to be honest, you know, 
like no success, but kind of 

554
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,560
obviously. 
And then two went even farther 

555
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,200
down. 
People didn't dig it at all. 

556
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,880
And then three, all of a sudden 
they linked up with like the 

557
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,960
rock'n'roll crowd. 
Like that was it, dude. 

558
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,080
And then that's when MTV still 
played music and whatnot. 

559
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,760
So it was a part for pop 
culture. 

560
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,760
People really stuck around and 
watched MTV because regardless 

561
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,160
if you, you're going to see 
movies, you're going to see 

562
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,600
music videos, real video to see 
the artist. 

563
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,440
Like so back then I, it's hard 
to explain because kids now you,

564
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,440
everything's instantaneous. 
But back then you could hear 

565
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,760
music on the radio. 
You could go to your record 

566
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,800
store, but then the videos would
come out and then you got to see

567
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,800
the artist. 
And then sometimes you're like, 

568
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,600
these dudes are wack. 
Like what the hell? 

569
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:11,080
Because you see him and you're 
like, Oh no, or I don't know. 

570
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,000
But it was that's like if you 
really like bands, you don't 

571
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,960
even care about their videos. 
You just like, I always want to 

572
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,680
see him playing, you know, I 
don't care about this video 

573
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,600
because that's when video 
started to become a whole 

574
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,720
another like thing. 
Yeah, you know how your band has

575
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,800
to make a video. 
But the cool thing was you got 

576
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,560
to actually see the the dudes, 
you know, or with a girl or 

577
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,600
whoever it was in the band. 
So that was really interesting 

578
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,080
for MTVMTV was huge. 
It was everybody watching it for

579
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,840
Young people, I guess, you know,
And then our, I think my 

580
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,760
Nightmare Elm St. tapped into 
that Nightmare three. 

581
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Yeah. 
And it was all it had. 

582
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,880
Like I'm not really into those 
bands of hair bands three. 

583
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,880
Well, yeah, docking and all 
that, but that a huge following 

584
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,240
the hair bands and all that, you
know, they were like huge. 

585
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,320
So then when Nightmare 4 came 
along, even if whether they did 

586
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,640
it on purpose, like I don't 
think it was like some guy was 

587
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,640
like this mad marketing scheme, 
they just went with that. 

588
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,320
Yeah. 
And then, because they still 

589
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,480
were broke, they paid us the 
least they could. 

590
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,120
Just. 
All the way around. 

591
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,240
Scale only. 
Don't eat, you know what I mean?

592
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,320
That's why that's why Patrick 
shark crack doesn't come back. 

593
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,080
Plain and simple. 
No one tells us she cuz they 

594
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,520
were going to pay her the same 
or the we were gay and probably 

595
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,360
no points and probably like no 
points on the end or whatever 

596
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:25,240
you get. 
You know what I mean? 

597
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,080
I certainly don't have points or
anything. 

598
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,160
And you're not serious. 
Not to knock New Line Cinema, 

599
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,760
but New Line Cinema was. 
They were barely scraping the 

600
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,080
bucket. 
Yeah, they were still, they were

601
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,320
still like in their infancy, 
essentially. 

602
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,200
Well, it's sort of, you know, 
like I met Bob Shea and Jack 

603
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Shoulder and they made a crap 
ton of movies together, but none

604
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000
of them ever went anywhere. 
So finally, like we got a couple

605
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,360
that did because he did this 
movie. 

606
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,760
Called it, I think. 
Not yet, I can't remember. 

607
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Jack Shoulder has a badass movie
with Bob Shea. 

608
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,480
It was a science fiction movie 
with this one dude. 

609
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Shit, I can't remember what it's
called anyhow, but they made a 

610
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,040
bunch of movies before that went
nowhere because they were 

611
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,320
buddies and their directors. 
And then finally, and he kept 

612
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,840
plugging away, Jack or Bob Shea 
did making movies, you know, And

613
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,560
then it came to this nightmare 
thing. 

614
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,720
And then he did that and they 
did 2 and then three started 

615
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000
getting momentum, you know what 
I mean? 

616
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,920
In an underground square. 
And and it just. 

617
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,400
And then how it felt to me is 
that again, the only reason I 

618
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,800
got it because they were so 
cheap, bro. 

619
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,400
They were, it was cattle call. 
They were paying the. 

620
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200
You know what I mean? 
They weren't like offering these

621
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,160
roles to anybody, including 
Patricia Arquette, because they 

622
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,440
were so broke. 
She was like, no. 

623
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,000
And she was doing the movies, 
you know what I mean? 

624
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,960
You weren't taken serious doing 
a horror movie. 

625
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

626
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,880
It almost made you seem 
desperate. 

627
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,400
You're like, you know, so 
everyone thinks it's like some 

628
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,120
mystery and she was like, no, 
you're going to pay me barely 

629
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,680
what I've you know, and you're 
not going to give him point and 

630
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,560
I'm getting offered other real 
shit. 

631
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,000
So she was like no, and then it 
was like, and no, this is a true

632
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,680
story nightmare. 
You know, they brought back 

633
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000
Rodney Eastman and Kenny Sagos, 
those two characters from three.

634
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,800
They not even they were about to
recast to those guys. 

635
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,680
How do you do that? 
No, just because of money, 

636
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,160
because they were like, you know
what I mean? 

637
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,480
And and I don't know personally 
what Kenny and Rodney took for 

638
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880
the show, but I don't think they
got a deal right. 

639
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,600
Dinner, man, I think they just 
got the same as we all got 

640
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,120
because they that's how new line
was doing it. 

641
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,280
It was one it was this far from 
getting sued. 

642
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,680
Man. 
Man, you know and not and it 

643
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,560
wasn't them being like me. 
It was. 

644
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,560
They were. 
They were broke. 

645
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,240
Yeah. 
They were just. 

646
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,400
How to do it with the least 
amount of money they could? 

647
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360
Handing out as many pennies as 
they could, or or as the least 

648
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,680
amount of pennies as they could.
You know, you're not getting a 

649
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,080
deal. 
And so Long story short, yeah, I

650
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,800
get an audition and I and it's 
Nightmare on Elm Street. 

651
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,360
And Nightmare 3 was not even on 
the box office, not even in the 

652
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,040
top 100, but it was out there 
and people liked it. 

653
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,160
And because of MTV and docking 
and thing, you know, this, this 

654
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,120
little genre started happening 
of people that dug that 

655
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,120
franchise, right? 
And then so, yeah, they they 

656
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,280
cast all of us like that cattle 
call. 

657
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,600
Lisa Wilcox has the same kind of
story. 

658
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,400
They threw her thing in the 
garbage and then went back into 

659
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,600
the garbage and pulled her 
headshot out and was like maybe 

660
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,760
we should try some of these 
chicks because we can't find 

661
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,880
anybody, I swear. 
So you were doing, you were 

662
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480
doing solo auditions. 
They never, they never tried to.

663
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,080
Have you guys like Audition? 
Together, here's what happened. 

664
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,360
The truth of the story, I'll 
tell you how. 

665
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,520
All right, so I auditioned with 
a crap ton of people and as I 

666
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,880
was leaving Rennie, they came 
back and said come back and and 

667
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,520
Renie Harlan would like to speak
to you. 

668
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,680
And he was like, you know, I 
don't want to imitate. 

669
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,480
He has an accent. 
Oh, you do it like that. 

670
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,680
But he was he was like, you do 
it like that every time you you 

671
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,040
have the character of Dan and I 
read it for again and he was 

672
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,200
like thumbs up. 
And then here's the truth. 

673
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,000
So yes, they cast the Tuesday 
night they found her and she was

674
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,000
going to be replacing Patricia 
Arquette. 

675
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,800
And then they, they already had 
Rodney and Kenny Sagos from 

676
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,240
Nightmare 3. 
And then Andros was cast. 

677
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,480
And then when they brought me 
back on like a two days later 

678
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,400
and I read with a couple of 
different, I guess it would be 

679
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,880
Alice, the character of Alice 
there, Lisa Wilcox. 

680
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,080
I just, I don't remember really 
because you know what I mean. 

681
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080
But there was Lisa Wilcox and 
then there was like a brunette 

682
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,280
girl that wasn't blonde, you 
know what I mean? 

683
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,120
So they didn't look too much 
alike. 

684
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,600
And 1 And so that that was I 
could tell that, you know, and 

685
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,800
they made me read with both of 
them and they made Tuesday night

686
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,200
also. 
And then Tuesday night when we 

687
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,040
were in the wings one time, we 
talked to each other and it's 

688
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,040
like, well, do we have the role?
You're like, you know, we still 

689
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,440
were like, they brought us back 
by three times, but no one said 

690
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,400
you're positively it. 
And so now that we when Tuesday 

691
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,040
we have a funny story, we're 
like, I think we got the role. 

692
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,720
They brought us back and we keep
reading it and sure enough, we 

693
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,320
ended up getting it. 
But that's how it happened. 

694
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,840
They have the poster out before 
they even cast you guys, you 

695
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,560
know what I mean? 
Like back. 

696
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,400
In the day. 
Oh, you. 

697
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Know what dude? 
I found out a crazy story too. 

698
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,160
The reason why? 
Nightmare. 

699
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,840
This is years later and this is 
like way above my pay grade 

700
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,160
stuff. 
But so movies get made and then 

701
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,800
you're an independent filmmaker,
you know, and then distribution 

702
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,920
is like this whole other 
gangster area of movies, you 

703
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,520
know? 
Like it's so locked down that 

704
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,120
it's like either either going to
get distribution or you're not. 

705
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680
Yeah. 
And if you don't mess with the 

706
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,600
big guys your movie ends up 
getting and you at the art, you 

707
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,320
end up getting PED nothing. 
Yeah, you know, so. 

708
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,880
Spend money to put it in 
festivals and then sell Blu-ray.

709
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,480
So even even back then, yeah, 
you're better off like rappers 

710
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,200
in the A's and like, no, dude, 
you can sell it. 

711
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,360
I'm selling it out of my trunk. 
I'm doing that with the movie. 

712
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,320
I have my I have my movie I just
made. 

713
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,000
Hell yeah. 
They. 

714
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,560
I can tell you those story, they
put it on humble and I'm not 

715
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120
making anything off of it and 
they change the title, all this 

716
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,680
bullshit and but I have the 
master and I'm like, I'm going 

717
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,560
to sell it all. 
Like you said, also a thumb 

718
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,440
drive or a Blu-ray. 
It's like that's the idea, 

719
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,440
right? 
You know I'll. 

720
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,880
Press up my own copies and take 
them to conventions and then 

721
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000
bam. 
Honestly dude, that's like, and 

722
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,080
I'm totally for that for 
everybody. 

723
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600
That doesn't bother me a bit. 
I go good do that. 

724
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,800
That's because the other one, if
you stream it you're getting 

725
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,600
fucked dude. 
Physical media all day. 

726
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,040
So yeah, just to finish that 
story, that's how it was. 

727
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,239
And then they cast us all and 
then like I said, it was cattle 

728
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,159
call for most of us and then we 
all got it. 

729
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,040
And then they still with the 
Lisa, the the Alice character, 

730
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,840
it was Lisa Wilcox. 
And I can't remember the silly 

731
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,800
girls who pretty they're, you 
know, both of them pretty and 

732
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,320
but one was and then they ended 
up deciding with Lisa and that 

733
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,080
took about that was like a two 
week process of that. 

734
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,960
And then we all met and we did 
table reads. 

735
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,280
You know, we sat around and read
with each other and met with 

736
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,560
Renee Harlan and then and then, 
not that because I'm in it or 

737
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,199
any of that, but nightmare for 
perfect timing, brother. 

738
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,280
We were, we were the only horror
film ever in the history of 

739
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,520
horror films and the only 
independent, not just horror, 

740
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,719
because horror genre wasn't 
taken serious at all. 

741
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,960
So it was unbelievable that a 
horror movie horror movie was 

742
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,560
number one, that it never 
happened. 

743
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,440
And you know, and #1 for like, 
honestly, like 8 weeks. 

744
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,760
And we were up against like, 
huge blockbusters, big, the 

745
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,880
first Lethal, not Lethal Weapon,
but movies like that, you know, 

746
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,120
there were Snide, Prockbuster. 
What's the Bruce Willis movie? 

747
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,320
Die Hard, I can't remember. 
Yeah, Die Hard was out then. 

748
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,960
Tom Cruise was huge. 
He had done like he won the 

749
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,000
Oscar that year for Rain Man and
people don't remember. 

750
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,280
He made this other goofy movie 
called Cocktail about bartender.

751
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,080
Yeah. 
Those came out the same fucking 

752
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,160
year. 
The same year he won the Oscar, 

753
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,840
dude. 
This other fucking farting 

754
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,520
movie, dude. 
Yeah, but no. 

755
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,560
And that was who we're competing
against. 

756
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,680
And we were #1 from August. 
You can look it up. 

757
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,360
I can't remember. 
It never happened before. 

758
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,240
And then also what was more 
interesting, it was an 

759
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,120
independent film company. 
And that had never happened 

760
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,400
before, right? 
And New Line wasn't owned by 

761
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,280
wartime Warner Brothers and all 
that shit. 

762
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600
No, you know, like they are now.
But this is when they were an 

763
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,320
independent film company. 
So it put them on the map, dude.

764
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:13,240
And so it blew up so hard. 
I found out later that because 

765
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,120
night you go with number one, 
right? 

766
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,000
So now the lines around the 
corner. 

767
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,640
It was like having a hit album 
or something. 

768
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,240
It was really fun for like 8 
weeks. 

769
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:24,080
It was crazy bro, you didn't 
even know like I could what was 

770
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,120
you going wild? 
This is 888988. 

771
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,720
I can't remember. 
There was still phone book, 

772
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,080
still phone books. 
I laugh at people like no, they 

773
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,560
used to take your fucking phone 
number and throw it on random 

774
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,640
porches all around the city. 
With the address and everything 

775
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,360
on that motherfucker, yeah. 
So, yeah, I was giving the 

776
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,400
craziest prank calls, you know, 
I mean, some of them funny. 

777
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,040
And then some of them, like, 
were Christian groups like, oh, 

778
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,400
that Freddy Krueger. 
Yeah, I don't even know what the

779
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,520
Satanic Panic was. 
I guess there was all these 

780
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,840
weirdos in the 80s that were 
from worshipping Satan. 

781
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040
I fucking missed the boat. 
I think it was just you. 

782
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,600
Know it's just you know, cuz bro
for the music it was stupid. 

783
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,520
It was why No because people 
were like remember when Def 

784
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,720
Leppard or somebody got sued 
because their kid killed 

785
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,040
themselves? 
Like what the fuck are you 

786
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,480
talking about? 
Don't worry. 

787
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,720
So yeah, I it was wild, though. 
I was getting crank calls and I 

788
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,440
had to like, change my number 
because nightmare blew. 

789
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,600
And then some people I'd be in 
public back then when I would 

790
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,960
get recognized, I don't get 
recognized anymore, but they'd 

791
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:29,720
be like, hey, fucking football 
player, dude, guys, it was a 

792
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,040
fucking wild ride. 
And still I'm getting gigs. 

793
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,400
It it it took like 10 years, 15 
maybe. 

794
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,960
And then all of a sudden it just
it became so popular again with 

795
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,280
like younger, like your kids age
probably even a little bit more 

796
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,680
like, you know, like it's wild. 
It's it's. 

797
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,720
Wild it's it's like he says in 
the movie, you know, I am 

798
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,360
eternal like it. 
It will how it's going to 

799
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,840
outlive all of us, man and. 
Well, no, you know what? 

800
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Not I, not because I'm in it. 
And I, I, I didn't even realize 

801
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,640
and didn't even call them 
franchises back then. 

802
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,240
Really, people didn't know that.
But then once it turned into 

803
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,880
something, they're like, oh, 
keep making that money. 

804
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,080
This could be a franchise. 
And that's what happened on Elm 

805
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,120
Street. 
But the Freddy Krueger part of 

806
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,440
it, not just the Megar 4, but 
Freddy Krueger is a boogeyman 

807
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,200
and whatnot. 
Huge bro, bigger than Michael 

808
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Jackson, more international than
anything I've ever seen. 

809
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Any band, any actor, you know, 
he's like, it's wild, dude. 

810
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,200
Like I've seen yummy Freddy 
Krueger tattoos. 

811
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,280
I've seen, you know, he's like 
an art. 

812
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,760
I don't care what country you're
in. 

813
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,320
Someone has there's a mural of 
Freddie, you know, it's just 

814
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,440
it's pretty neat to be involved.
And Robert England himself is 1 

815
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,560
cool mofo for being so, you 
know. 

816
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,200
So I got to hang with him a lot 
and it it for me, I was like, 

817
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:49,160
I'm glad I met someone that's 
that cool who's that big of a 

818
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,240
deal, you know? 
Picking his brain and. 

819
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,360
Super fun to talk to you, man. 
Like he's open, like, you know, 

820
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,960
and he surfs. 
I still surf. 

821
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,280
It's funny when we were younger 
because he was in Big Wednesday,

822
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,840
this movie with Jan Michael 
Vincent. 

823
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,400
But yeah, Jerem Michael Vincent 
was like the all women loved him

824
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,080
that this is in the 70s. 
He's like the fucking God, the 

825
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,040
chicks. 
My mom loved him, you know, so 

826
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,160
he was the main character in 
that movie. 

827
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,040
So it's kind of, you know, he's 
Robert's been around. 

828
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,000
He was some rad, rad, cool shit.
You know, he's got crazy 

829
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,360
stories. 
He knows everybody. 

830
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,520
Yeah. 
And you know, and then. 

831
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,920
But yeah, doing the convention 
things with him is kind of fun. 

832
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,880
Yeah, I was going to segue and 
and get into that, but I, I got 

833
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,160
to tell you because normally I 
have a Co host and my Co host 

834
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,480
and I, we have professed our 
love for Elm St. 4A lot on on 

835
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,080
our episodes. 
How old are you? 

836
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,280
I am 41, I'll be 42. 
Yeah, you're in the perfect age 

837
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,040
group, dude. 
That's like that just because it

838
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,640
was. 
Was it one of the first ones you

839
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,720
saw or was it one of the other? 
Ones Oh yeah, it was one of the 

840
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:49,240
1st and there. 
You go back. 

841
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,360
Yeah, and it's such a fun 
popcorn movie. 

842
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,160
But my Co host told me, you 
know, because he was supposed to

843
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,440
be here, but we had weather 
issues and so he wasn't able to 

844
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,000
be here. 
And so he says you got to tell 

845
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,360
Dan first and foremost, man, 
like, I don't want to fellate 

846
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,600
you too hard. 
I don't want to be one of those 

847
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,480
guys that's just like, Oh my 
God. 

848
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,440
Oh my God. 
You know, I don't want to 

849
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,720
fangirl out on you. 
But, you know, growing up, both 

850
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:15,560
of us, because we're best 
friends and we've been best 

851
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,840
friends forever. 
You always were like a moral 

852
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,360
compass for us and and just 
watching you in the movie. 

853
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,120
We were like, you know, you're 
such a a nice person and then 

854
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,160
with now that the world has 
opened up and like everybody's 

855
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,080
more accessible, like Facebook 
and Instagram and things like 

856
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,520
that, we get to see you know who
you who you are as a human 

857
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,040
being. 
And my Co host is just like make

858
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,880
sure he knows that like. 
Well, he's a. 

859
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,360
Good, a good dude, you're a good
egg and then you know. 

860
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,800
No, he knew. 
I mean like, I'm not trying to. 

861
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,840
It's like, I'm not going to sit 
here and like, what is it? 

862
00:40:53,840 --> 00:41:02,360
And my favorite subject is me. 
But but no, it's called the 

863
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Army. 
All of this selfless. 

864
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,840
And then just to go back to even
doing movies, like the latest 

865
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,720
project was the first time I was
the main fucking guy. 

866
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,560
And I really was. 
I did it because I like making 

867
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,800
movies, like I said, and I'd 
never been challenged. 

868
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,600
Like I'm in every scene, every 
freaking thing. 

869
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,840
And that's like pretty hard. 
And I've never done that before,

870
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,000
you know. 
And it's like, so that was, I 

871
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,400
love doing that. 
I tried it, you know. 

872
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,160
But what was, but you said 
before it was really important. 

873
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,480
Like when you're on an ensemble 
cast and everybody's trying to 

874
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,320
do their thing and you got all 
these weird personalities trying

875
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,440
to make 9 times out of 10, if 
everybody's doing their best, it

876
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,360
turns out to be some of the most
bad ass shit. 

877
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,080
And that's what happened with 
Nightmare 4. 

878
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,240
Everyone was good sport, even 
Nightmare 5, all the actors and 

879
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,600
everyone, they're all great and 
good sports. 

880
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,280
If you're going to do a horror 
film, you got to be you're going

881
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,560
to get roughed up a little. 
You know, and KY Jelly and all 

882
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,480
kinds of you know. 
Smoke. 

883
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Whatever. 
So, you know, you, like I said, 

884
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,760
you got to be a good sport and 
be an actor. 

885
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,080
So everyone like the talent was 
really doing their best and 

886
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,760
trying. 
No one was like a prima Donna 

887
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,960
and weird, you know? 
Yeah. 

888
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,040
So that part ended up with 
Nightmare 4. 

889
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,560
That's when I always tell people
I've never been in a really 

890
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,480
successful band. 
But it's like if if I was the 

891
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,200
bass player in a successful 
band, that's what I guess is 

892
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,400
what I feel like if people are 
like. 

893
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Oh, I know. 
Oh fuck yeah, I know you did. 

894
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,040
You know, So because we 
Nightmare 4, not to brag about 

895
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,040
it, but Nightmare 3 and 
Nightmare 4, if you looked at 

896
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:35,120
like a a bar graph of like just 
box office, Nightmare four and 

897
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,400
Nightmare three are like this 
and everybody else is way down. 

898
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,280
Oh yeah, not even Nightmare 5. 
And I love Nightmare 5 because I

899
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,360
have the best death scene and 
whatever, but it just tanked. 

900
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,920
Yeah, it went right now. 
And like, not because it's a bad

901
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,240
movie. 
I think at the time people were 

902
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,440
like, that's a nut. 
Freddy Krueger. 

903
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,680
Yeah, a little fatigue because 
we had the TV show and 

904
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,440
everything. 
Yeah. 

905
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,040
It was just non-stop because 
they were just taking the money 

906
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,960
dude. 
But now that it's years later, 

907
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,280
people don't even care that they
even some of the corny stuff. 

908
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,720
But because now it's it's 
nostalgia. 

909
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:09,680
Now it's actually so it's kind 
of even, even the stuff that was

910
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,920
considered cheesy back then, 
people like, you know. 

911
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,440
And and Speaking of that, since 
you said, you know, it's 

912
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,320
nostalgic now there there's been
some time we got to talk a 

913
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,920
little bit about the convention 
circuit. 

914
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,000
When did that become a thing for
you? 

915
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,240
You're relatively new to hitting
conventions, yeah? 

916
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,000
Hurt me much because I didn't 
know it even existed because I 

917
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,720
left Hollywood like I said, went
to the military turned into a 

918
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:36,640
complete different animal, 
different human, you know what I

919
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,360
mean? 
Different guy got out in about 

920
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:45,040
2017, I think 16 right around 
well I was out and I had a baby.

921
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,760
I have my daughter and then was 
approached by an an agent and 

922
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,040
then one of my fellow actors. 
It might have even been Toy 

923
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Newkirk, one of my fellow 
actresses. 

924
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,160
She's a friend of mine as well. 
Yeah, because she actually I 

925
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,560
moved into her apartment when I 
left Washington. 

926
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,960
I stayed at I she sublet me her 
place, but like a week before I 

927
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,680
got my other place. 
And so but she was like, Danny, 

928
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,360
you why don't you do conventions
and like, what are you talking 

929
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,840
about? 
And she was like, you don't you 

930
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,840
haven't heard. 
And I and she goes, we go to 

931
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,160
these things and we sign 
autographs. 

932
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,520
And then by then, yeah, it was 
already at, there was like 10th 

933
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,640
annual there. 
And then they bring bigger 

934
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,280
celebrities than myself. 
But because I got killed by 

935
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,240
Freddy Krueger, it kind of 
immortalized me in pop culture. 

936
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Absolutely, yeah. 
And then no, and then I mean it 

937
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,680
has I'm not, you know, so and 
then to compare the heavier it 

938
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,560
was like you have Jason and then
you have Michael Myers and you 

939
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,600
have Freddy. 
The thing about Freddy is his 

940
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,440
his are a little more 
psychological and personal where

941
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,280
the other two will just stab a 
dude on the way to the dock and 

942
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,560
kill some other people. 
There's some personality, yeah. 

943
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,920
And they they cover, they make 
it more of a slasher. 

944
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,880
So you know what I mean? 
Even though I like those movies,

945
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,520
I'm fan of those movies. 
I'm not like, you know, but but 

946
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,920
Robert England is just, I don't 
mean to knock Jason and the 

947
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,960
other guy or Michael Myers, but 
he's way more popular, you know 

948
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,360
what I mean? 
And not even because I'm in the 

949
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,040
movie, it just, it is it just 
the more people love him as a 

950
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,200
boogeyman. 
And so, yeah, that part of it, 

951
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,240
that's what for me, because I 
was killed by Freddy Krueger. 

952
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,520
I people, I'm in people's 
memory. 

953
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,040
Like yourself even, you know, I 
mean, that age of people, you 

954
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,120
know, 35 to 40 or whatever, 
they're like, no dude, I know 

955
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,280
that whole movie. 
I grew up watching that 40 

956
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,280
fucking times through whatever 
it is. 

957
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,400
So that part's pretty cool. 
And then Nightmare 4, again, not

958
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,680
because I'm in it, it just was 
perfect timing. 

959
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,320
And like you said, out of all of
them, it's very fun. 

960
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,200
Yeah, it doesn't. 
No. 

961
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,680
It's a fun movie, and it has 
this amazing tempo. 

962
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,600
Like, it's amazing because I've 
watched 3-4 and five all 

963
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,240
together. 
And the funniest story is people

964
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:56,360
were glued to the screen for 
three, glued to the screen for 

965
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,600
four and then 5 right after I 
died. 

966
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,520
And this is at a huge thing in 
Philadelphia. 

967
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,360
Like, what do you call it? 
Drive in? 

968
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,720
Yeah. 
You know, like there are people 

969
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:06,200
that camp for the weekend. 
It's really cool. 

970
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,800
It's like seasonal. 
It's like close to New York, but

971
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,240
in Phil in Pennsylvania. 
Yeah, because it gets so fucking

972
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:13,040
cold. 
They don't have it in the 

973
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,040
winter. 
It's super cool, bro. 

974
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,880
It's like a movie theater out in
the middle of nowhere. 

975
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,560
You're driving though, you know.
Anyhow, it was really cool. 

976
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,520
But so it's outdoors and there's
a lot of people, so it's in 

977
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,840
outdoor arena. 
So you can hear, you know, 

978
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,840
people, they have the speakers 
in the cars and everything. 

979
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,800
But during three and four 
everyone was watching the movie.

980
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,320
And then 5 starts out bom bom 
bom my death and starts out and 

981
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,960
then it kind of gets slow and 
talky and then all of a sudden 

982
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,040
because I'm sitting in the back,
you know, when the dog watching 

983
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,520
everything, you could hear it. 
Hey guy, I'm going to snack bar.

984
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,120
Me too, dude. 
I still get a cigarette. 

985
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,760
You can hear people like they 
weren't watching the movie 

986
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,800
anymore. 
It's like all these weird 

987
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,160
conversations and shit. 
Then I go, all people, I get it.

988
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,760
I go, yeah, it's just different 
pace than three and. 4 so and I 

989
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,200
think I think with 52, which my 
Co host and I've talked about a 

990
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:03,200
little bit like it takes on a 
pretty hardcore like serious 

991
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,160
subject, you know what I'm 
saying and. 

992
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,120
I totally agree. 
And, you know, it was done on 

993
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,520
purpose and I can't tell him 
which direction to go. 

994
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,640
But when I was back then, I was 
like, no man, you should have 

995
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,040
kept going. 
Yeah, you know, could not to be 

996
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:20,400
because here's my thing. 
The reason why is they went 

997
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,120
there with they were trying to 
make it a story and yeah, just 

998
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,720
keep the story simple. 
All they really the fans really 

999
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:32,040
care about was Robert and his 
one liners, whatever funny shit 

1000
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,760
he would say when he kills 
somebody. 

1001
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,520
Some weird, weird way to take 
him out. 

1002
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,320
Cool lighting, you know, just. 
Fun. 

1003
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,000
Yeah, I know, right? 
And they were in so whatever 

1004
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,160
that that's what they did they 
tried to make it a story and 

1005
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,520
make it serious like you said, 
even the way it was lit was dark

1006
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,880
and. 
But I mean, that was the angle 

1007
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,480
they took just because Freddie 
was getting very corny at that 

1008
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,000
was so much Freddie that they 
wanted to maybe add a little 

1009
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,320
scary to it again. 
But it was the cat was out of 

1010
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,360
the bag. 
It was too late. 

1011
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,120
You know, Robert was like long 
lunch pails. 

1012
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,960
Yeah, Halloween costumes, 
pajamas. 

1013
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,680
Yo Yos. 
Yeah, I completely agree. 

1014
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:08,920
You know what I mean? 
Pajamas and T-shirts, everything

1015
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,280
so and then. 
And in all seriousness, that was

1016
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,400
the part of the fucking ride. 
Because you weren't. 

1017
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,400
He did have great one liners. 
Even my death scene. 

1018
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,160
He's like, you know, don't dream
and drive. 

1019
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,920
When he rips his arm off, he 
spits the champagne. 

1020
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,800
He's all bad year Dan. 
He said he's got great one 

1021
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,160
liners. 
And then when when Robert got 

1022
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,600
his, I went to the ceremony 
where Robert got his Walk of 

1023
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,320
Fame there on on Hollywood, you 
know, so now I personally know 

1024
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,440
someone who has a star on the 
Walk of Fame. 

1025
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,120
That's pretty fucking heavy. 
That is rad. 

1026
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,640
No, it is that heavy. 
That's heavy to me. 

1027
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,560
I'm like, wow, that's that's 
pretty fucking cool. 

1028
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,360
And, and when we we went, it was
the biggest crowd since **NSYNC.

1029
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,440
Like he was like a pop star. 
He was crazy huge, huge. 

1030
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,280
I just shut the streets down. 
Usually there's like 5 people. 

1031
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,400
I don't care if it's like James 
Brolin or huge act, you know? 

1032
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,960
Yeah, there's six people, some 
family members. 

1033
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,560
TMZ real quick. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1034
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,680
They don't give a shit, 
honestly, and TMZ is like 

1035
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,080
they're in and out. 
This was a scene, brother. 

1036
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,280
It was like, whoa, red and green
sweaters everywhere, people. 

1037
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,960
It was really cool. 
But yeah, so I got to go to 

1038
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,720
that, you know what I mean? 
That was, I forgot what the 

1039
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,720
point that's bringing that up, 
but yeah, that's pretty cool. 

1040
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:19,760
I got to see Robert Viz star, 
you know, and so so you know 

1041
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,520
that that's pretty cool with 
that. 

1042
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Wasn't even that long ago. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1043
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,840
A year or two, maybe I. 
Think it was last year last. 

1044
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,720
Summer. 
Yeah, OK. 

1045
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,800
No, no, no, no, I'm sorry. 
Last Halloween. 

1046
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,720
It was last Halloween, OK. 
And then, dude, we all got 

1047
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:35,600
invited. 
And then once they realized it 

1048
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,080
was a scene, I took the subway. 
You have a subway here now? 

1049
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,640
And when I came out, I had to, 
like, jump the fence and, like, 

1050
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,920
because there was already a 
crowd and people were like, 

1051
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,320
damn, you know, some people 
know, You know, I was like, 

1052
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,160
yeah, they brought me through. 
And then, like, Robert hadn't 

1053
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,560
arrived. 
I didn't know it was going to be

1054
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,960
that big of a deal, You know 
what I mean? 

1055
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,520
It was like, because people 
probably, we can't get in. 

1056
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,480
And I was like, oh, shit. 
And luckily I took the subway 

1057
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,400
and was on the sidewalk, walk 
down, went over some barriers I 

1058
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,520
wasn't supposed to. 
And then it like, now, like 

1059
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,160
where the limo would pull in, I 
just jumped over the little 

1060
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,400
thing. 
And then all these dudes in 

1061
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,520
suits were like, hey, buddy, 
hey, hey, I don't know. 

1062
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,360
I'm in the fucking movie. 
That's where. 

1063
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,160
And then like, oh, cool. 
And then I saw, you know who was

1064
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,080
there? 
Robert Patrick, the Terminator. 

1065
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,600
Oh, nice. 
Not Arnold, the other 

1066
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,520
Terminator. 
Yeah, but he was just sitting 

1067
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,800
there was a bunch of family 
members and like, Eli Ross, some

1068
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,960
of, you know, celebrities and 
whatnot. 

1069
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,800
But I saw him. 
I saw Robert Patrick. 

1070
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,680
And I walked in and everyone's 
like, oh shit, there's AT-1000 

1071
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,320
here, Ron. 
Have you seen this boy? 

1072
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,520
Yeah, man. 
So with doing conventions, you 

1073
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,800
know, has that kind of did that,
did that like reinvigorate you 

1074
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,400
getting casted in things 
because. 

1075
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,480
Absolutely, 100%. 
I met other directors that still

1076
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,720
wanted to work with me, and 
you're totally right. 

1077
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,200
And so for me, I mean, because, 
yeah, anyone, you know, acting 

1078
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,840
at my age now, it's basically 
totally starting over. 

1079
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,560
Luckily I did those other 
movies, people who let me, you 

1080
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,840
know, they'll at least go. 
Oh, well, I guess we'll lay you 

1081
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:02,880
in the door. 
What are you doing? 

1082
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,440
Because I'm an old dude, you 
know, I'm not. 

1083
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,560
Yeah. 
Weird time in Hollywood for 

1084
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,280
casting. 
So, yeah, that it did help. 

1085
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,280
And then it did invigorate me 
because it made me. 

1086
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,240
It did. 
You called it. 

1087
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,640
It invigorated me because I was 
like, well, I can make money 

1088
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,640
doing this. 
And then, like, you know, and it

1089
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,400
can maybe we'll see, you know, 
because like I said, I've been. 

1090
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,000
And then it has. 
It's helped me get a couple 

1091
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,000
rolls. 
For sure. 

1092
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,960
That's what's up, man. 
And so, yeah, that's, you know, 

1093
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,040
obviously I'm not that young 
whatever anymore, but, you know,

1094
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,240
but just being part of making 
movies is super fun. 

1095
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Hell yeah. 
Hey, Roger, can I ask Danny a 

1096
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,480
question? 
Yeah, man, you can ask him a 

1097
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,640
question. 
Go ahead. 

1098
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:44,000
Danny, are you still in a band? 
And if you are, can I be the one

1099
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:51,200
who plays cowbell? 
Yes, yes and yes, but not. 

1100
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,080
You know what? 
Listen, sometimes when you have 

1101
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,440
a fever and the only way to fix 
it is more cowbell. 

1102
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,360
Damn right, dude. 
Oh, that's that's it. 

1103
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,680
No, I play, you know what's 
funny is like, I don't play in 

1104
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,640
Victrola in in that band 
anymore. 

1105
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,840
But that sucks because I still 
listen to us sometimes when we 

1106
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,480
were fucking good. 
We just didn't stick with it 

1107
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,640
long enough. 
But I still play rock music with

1108
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,200
some dude here. 
And then I have a friend. 

1109
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,000
This, this, these guys right 
here. 

1110
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,040
Doomsday Crip, they're they're 
vendors at these conventions and

1111
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,720
sometimes we team up and it's 
really neat, man. 

1112
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:24,880
It's me, Doomsday Crypt and this
guy named Joe Castro, who's a 

1113
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,440
makeup artist. 
He's kind of a celebrity makeup 

1114
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,480
artist. 
You know what I mean? 

1115
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,080
He's famous makeup artist. 
Well, we'll do to, we'll do a 

1116
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,440
convention together with 
Doomsday and Doomsday Crypt. 

1117
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,120
John Anderson's the the guy. 
And so it's a we got a great 

1118
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,000
booth and then Joe will 
sometimes recreate my death 

1119
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,920
scene. 
And so I was in Lexington, KY, I

1120
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,080
did that. 
I my next gig, I go a couple 

1121
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,640
weeks, I go to Houston, but I'll
be at Frankencon and then I'll 

1122
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,000
be at I'll be in June. 
I'm going to what they call 

1123
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,120
spawn of Scarefest and I'll be 
there with these guys. 

1124
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,200
I'll be there. 
It's in June. 

1125
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,320
I can't, I can't. 
It's either. 

1126
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,040
It's it's in June, but I'm going
with Doomsday Crip and we're 

1127
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,960
going to be there with Joe 
Castro and we're going to 

1128
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,520
recreate some Nightmare 5 stuff.
That's awesome. 

1129
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:12,240
There's going to be some really 
cool photo OPS, and if you're a 

1130
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,640
special effects nerd at all, 
you're going to be stoked 

1131
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,320
because it seemed the real deal.
And it's fun, you know? 

1132
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,120
I mean, like, it isn't like my 
day where you had to show up at 

1133
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,720
3:00 in the morning and then 
they kind of experiment with 

1134
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:25,560
some chemicals and glue it on 
your face. 

1135
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Chemical burn afterwards, yeah. 

1136
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,800
No, you know, they're like close
your eyes. 

1137
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,560
You're like, what's that lead 
based metallic thing? 

1138
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,480
I don't know. close your eyes. 
You'll be fine. 

1139
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,240
You'll be fine, yeah. 
Right dude? 

1140
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,200
I mean you can smell the 
chemicals back then You're like 

1141
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,920
what the fuck dude this can't be
good. 

1142
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,840
For nobody light a match. 
Yeah, really. 

1143
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,280
Basically. 
But no, now they've made it. 

1144
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,920
It's so far. 
Like now it's almost not for 

1145
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,720
kids, but it's way more 
commercial and easier to do some

1146
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,160
crazy shit, you know? 
Absolutely. 

1147
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,880
That'll be fun. 
That's what that's about. 

1148
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,760
The conventions. 
Yeah, that, that part's fun. 

1149
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,760
And then I don't know not to 
promote, but I I in June I'll be

1150
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,720
at a Frankenkong, then I'm going
to Scare Fest in June and then 

1151
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,560
and I'll be in Houston in like 3
weeks. 

1152
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,160
Hell yeah, yeah. 
No, Amanda, that you can. 

1153
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,280
That's. 
Cool too, because I'm going 

1154
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,480
there with with, if you guys 
remember Nightmare 3, Jennifer 

1155
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,200
Rubin, the girl, she's like the 
attic. 

1156
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,360
She has the, the, the Freddie 
kills her with the, the hands, 

1157
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,880
you know, the, the syringes. 
She'll be there with me as well.

1158
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,480
And then when I can't remember 
the guy's name from Slipknot, I 

1159
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,280
don't know all their names, you 
know what I mean? 

1160
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,800
But it's one of the guys from 
Slipknot, so it's pretty. 

1161
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,480
Cool, that is sweet. 
The only thing, like I said, in 

1162
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,160
cities it's hard to keep a band 
because you can't play drums and

1163
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,840
rock out people like what the 
fuck? 

1164
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,560
But what's cool about going out 
to Missouri or Aisle or 

1165
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,080
somewhere or Tennessee, 
whatever, you can go to dudes 

1166
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,720
backyard and their garage and 
just drink beer and go nuts and 

1167
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:55,560
have fun. 
Yeah, Jam out. 

1168
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,960
No one's going to care, you 
know, shoot some guns, make 

1169
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,560
noise and just, you know what I 
mean? 

1170
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,800
You can't really. 
It's hard to have a rock band in

1171
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,880
the city. 
You got to be rich. 

1172
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,800
You got to have a garage. 
You're like, whoa, you got a 

1173
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,400
garage where you live. 
You know what I mean? 

1174
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,480
Like, it's hard. 
It's hard in cities. 

1175
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,440
All right, so I suppose it's 
time to take a look. 

1176
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,880
Hey Skin sack, did you know if 
you go to deepcutpodcast.com 

1177
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,720
there's all kinds of sick merch 
for you and your ugly 

1178
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,000
girlfriends? 
Let's face it, the clothes 

1179
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,280
you're wearing only attracts 
ugly chicks. 

1180
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,280
So get some new gear and maybe 
you'll stop being such a 

1181
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,600
freaking dork. 
Only at deepcutpodcast.com. 

1182
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:55,400
Deepcutpodcast.com. 
It's not a big sub hot taste and

1183
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,320
I don't. 
Care if you like mine hot taste 

1184
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,800
just. 
These are my motherfucking hot 

1185
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,680
taste hot. 
Taste. 

1186
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,360
All right, Sir, for this last 
segment of the podcast, we are 

1187
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,680
the Deep Cut podcast and I would
not be doing the name of that 

1188
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,040
podcast justice if I did not. 
Scroll. 

1189
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,440
Endlessly through all of the 
information, all of the social 

1190
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:26,520
medias that I have access to and
root through your things like a 

1191
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:33,600
weird creepy super fan and make 
you choose between 10 different 

1192
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,560
things. 
So I have 10 AB choices I'm 

1193
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,560
going to give. 
You. 

1194
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,520
AB choices. 
Oh. 

1195
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,200
Yeah, yeah. 
And. 

1196
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,960
Yeah, choose from Sir. 
You can either say this is my 

1197
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,640
choice, move on, or this is my 
choice and why? 

1198
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,400
So you can, you can rant and 
ramble as much as you want. 

1199
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,640
The floor is yours. 
So if you are ready, Sir. 

1200
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,200
Send it. 
Go for it, brother. 

1201
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,600
This is a breakfast, I suppose. 
Cheat, cheat day. 

1202
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,600
Breakfast Donuts or waffles. 
Oh, Donuts all day long, you 

1203
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,960
know, like, you know, it's 
funny, we had like one donut 

1204
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,640
shop when I was a little kid and
like we live so far out of town.

1205
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,040
I wasn't like I didn't really 
get Donuts a lot, you know, 

1206
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,520
whatever. 
And then I went to this one 

1207
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,360
dudes house and they live right 
next to the donut shop. 

1208
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,920
And the dad one day was like, he
just comes in and sets him down 

1209
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,440
and goes, Oh, I just got, I 
never even had hot Donuts with 

1210
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,240
glaze. 
I was like, dude, what is this 

1211
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:33,160
crack? 
Now when I'm in LA, my daughter,

1212
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,120
it's a treat. 
Obviously we can't eat Donuts 

1213
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,560
all the time, but we got she, 
she knows my daughter know we go

1214
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,040
to like donut shops and some of 
them are rad because they're, 

1215
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,440
they've been around for years, 
you know, like 4 News, you know,

1216
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,880
like Primo's Donuts, DK's 
Donuts. 

1217
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,760
We got one of those. 
Not fancy, actually, back in the

1218
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,520
day, dude, it was 24 hours, but 
it's always been a donut shop. 

1219
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,240
It was in the 80s, it was like 
there was some murders there. 

1220
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,840
Yeah, dude, you're like, I'm not
going there now. 

1221
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,480
They're like, they're like, 
almost like a fancy donut shop, 

1222
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,880
you know what I mean? 
So it's pretty cool. 

1223
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,480
I didn't. 
Yeah. 

1224
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,960
They make crate like crazy, you 
know, Donuts with all everything

1225
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,480
like that Portland place in 
Oregon almost, you know, like so

1226
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,400
yeah, Donuts all day long, dude.
I'm with you. 

1227
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,760
I'm with you on that number 2 
Domestic pets, dogs or cats. 

1228
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,920
I got two dogs, man. 
I I'm not an animal. 

1229
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,680
I have two dogs and I don't 
dislike cats. 

1230
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:33,920
People think like, Oh yeah, but 
my neighbors, they have feral 

1231
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,120
cats that they let kick out in 
their yard and whatever. 

1232
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,200
Well, where do you think they 
go? 

1233
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,280
To the bathroom? 
My yard or my side of our 

1234
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,960
building? 
So I don't run my dogs to chase 

1235
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,920
their cats, but I make my dogs. 
My dogs know they're like, fuck 

1236
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,640
yeah. 
They don't really attack them. 

1237
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,560
They just make them. 
You guys poop on that side? 

1238
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,160
Yeah, they're just, they're just
securing the perimeter as it 

1239
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,000
were. 
That's it. 

1240
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,440
My German Shepherd loves it, 
dude. 

1241
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,960
Now she's 3. 
But she's like, any time I go 

1242
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,560
outside, they think like, oh, 
we're going to run around the 

1243
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,800
house or make you know, And then
dude, this is just recent. 

1244
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,440
So my little dog, she's a where 
is she anyhow? 

1245
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,400
She's a Shih Tzu poodle, super 
cute. 

1246
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,360
She's only like 20 lbs. 
And I had the window open in the

1247
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,720
middle of the night. 
Well, you could see where 

1248
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,960
there's a fence. 
The building in between is 

1249
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,840
really close to our window. 
Guess what walks Mr. Kitty cat 

1250
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,440
walks by. 
So my dog's right there and she 

1251
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,840
just goes a crazy what she's 
like. 

1252
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,920
Right there and I was. 
Like. 

1253
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,640
Just middle of the night, sensor
light comes on like. 

1254
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,840
Calm down dog. 
It was pretty funny. 

1255
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,480
But yeah, I've had a cat too. 
But I'm a dog guy. 

1256
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Guy. 
Yeah, yeah, dogs. 

1257
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,880
Yeah, we we have a dog also mini
pincher. 

1258
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,360
And this isn't on some mystery 
Chastain shit. 

1259
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,080
Our dog's name is actually 
Danny, but it's for Danny 

1260
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,280
Torrance from The Shining, so. 
Oh, no way, Brad. 

1261
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,720
I love that movie too. 
Right? 

1262
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,360
And he happened to have them in 
Danny. 

1263
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,040
I know that movies are terrific.
I love that movie. 

1264
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,920
What a good movie. 
I think I've met that guy. 

1265
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,600
I could be that actor. 
I'm pretty sure I met him, not 

1266
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,560
Jack Nicholson. 
I think I met Jack Nicholson, 

1267
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,040
but like I met the other the. 
Kid. 

1268
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:09,960
Danny. 
Yeah, all right. 

1269
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,880
Next is an adrenaline junkie 
question. 

1270
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:19,880
Skydiving or bungee jumping? 
Man, I've I've I've done Bungie.

1271
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,120
I don't like it at all. 
And then I was an army Ranger, 

1272
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,560
bro, I've sky. 
I've jumped so many times. 

1273
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,520
So I'm going to pick skydiving, 
but I'm going to tell you right 

1274
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,680
now neither one of them are 
cool. 

1275
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:33,680
Yeah. 
And they're cool. 

1276
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,120
I never. 
I've done a whole bunch of 

1277
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,520
skydiving, like honestly so. 
But I always, I just was like, 

1278
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,840
this is like, I'm not going to 
do this in my spare time. 

1279
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,200
Yeah. 
You know what? 

1280
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,760
I mean, it's just like it was 
too weird to me too. 

1281
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,880
Like even some, you know, I 
don't know, that's just my take 

1282
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,840
on it because I'm like, people 
shouldn't jump out of stuff like

1283
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,920
this. 
This is like, we're just like, 

1284
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,360
ha ha, look at what I'm being. 
I mean, so yeah, I have a trash.

1285
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,120
Never happened. 
I never had any malfunctions or 

1286
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,720
anything. 
I've had some crazy exits. 

1287
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,400
One time I had all the combat 
gear on and I mean tons of crap 

1288
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:07,040
dude, and when I jumped out my 
shoulder hits the door and it 

1289
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,400
spun me around and then when the
wind hit me I went completely 

1290
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,880
upside down. 
South. 

1291
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,560
When my chute opened, my head 
was down and my feet were up. 

1292
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,240
And so when my chute opened, 
those are the risers that hold 

1293
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,360
your thing. 
I was all just a ball of fucking

1294
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,400
my riser, head facing down, feet
up. 

1295
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,600
Now I'm going down to earth like
that and the rest of the. 

1296
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,120
I don't piss. 
Myself, not even a lot. 

1297
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,080
Drifting through a fucking trees
or whatever I was like oh God I 

1298
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,360
finally unfucked myself from hit
the ground but. 

1299
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,240
That's terrifying, dude. 
Totally dude, and it was at 

1300
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,280
night time as well. 
Nope, Nope, you win. 

1301
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,800
You got balls of steel, dude. 
I was upside down and I knew 

1302
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,840
that my shoot was going to open.
I could feel it opening. 

1303
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,200
So when it opened, I knew I was 
not going to like plummet to 

1304
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,520
earth. 
So now, But now I'm upside down 

1305
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,240
all tangled up. 
And then I was like, every time 

1306
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,680
I would like because my blood 
was rushing to my head, you 

1307
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,880
know, I'm like, OK. 
And then I tried to figure out 

1308
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,320
what was tangled, you know, 
because you have gear and all 

1309
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,480
this bullshit. 
And so every time I would write 

1310
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,000
myself and, you know, sit 
upright and pull my risers down,

1311
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,240
it would make me like, steer 
right into the trees. 

1312
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,200
You know what I mean? 
I was like fuck and. 

1313
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,840
Then I'd go upside down. 
It was like, it was like a good 

1314
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,640
45 seconds of just like, fuck, 
dude. 

1315
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,440
Yeah, that's we finally figured 
it out. 

1316
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,760
Beyond terrifying. 
Everyone's like, where the fuck 

1317
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,400
have you been? 
I was like the last guy to 

1318
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,000
assemble, you know? 
And I'm salty. 

1319
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,960
This just happened when I was 
like pretty like I've been 

1320
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,120
around like 5 years. 
I was like, where the fuck were 

1321
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,440
you, asshole? 
And I was like, never mind, 

1322
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,000
dude. 
You don't want to know, man. 

1323
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,560
That was one step from landing 
head first. 

1324
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,800
The next next one, surfing or 
biking? 

1325
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,120
Surfing, surfing I, well, I 
still live like if I, I still, 

1326
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,520
you know, it's funny, I've been 
surfing for years and years and 

1327
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,480
now that I'm older, it's such an
extreme sport and whatnot. 

1328
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,240
Like sometimes I'll just go and 
just get in the water and swim 

1329
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,240
around, you know, because it's 
like, it's hard. 

1330
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,320
But yeah, luckily I live right 
here and I have a bunch of 

1331
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,200
surfing friends, man. 
So like really good friends. 

1332
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,200
My friend Chance Boy, this is a 
not the name drop, but we've 

1333
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,440
been friends. 
We did the M&M's commercial 100 

1334
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,520
years ago and that's how we be. 
He's a real surfer. 

1335
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,840
He's like, he's like 
professional or was, you know, 

1336
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,400
and I'm an actor that surfs, you
know what I mean? 

1337
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,480
I definitely, I was a jock, not 
a surfer, but I did it so much. 

1338
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,120
I can do it, you know, and I 
really enjoy it. 

1339
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,280
It's a Mother Nature thing, man.
It's totally cool. 

1340
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,240
But Chance was an actor as as 
well. 

1341
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,600
And he was on Harry and the 
Hendersons and then him and his 

1342
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:38,960
mom. 
There's kind of a cult movie 

1343
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,960
called Night of the Comet. 
It's a you. 

1344
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,840
Ever heard that any people that 
are like it's like a it's a 

1345
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,760
can't be old zombie movie. 
It's one of the first zombie 

1346
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,080
movies called Night of the 
Comet. 

1347
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,040
Anyhow, it's Chance Boyer and 
Sharon Farrell is his mom and 

1348
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,520
they're in the movie together. 
Nice. 

1349
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,640
So it's pretty cool. 
And then yeah, he's my serpent 

1350
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,200
pal. 
Him and this other cat was my 

1351
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,600
friend Donnie and my other 
friend Bobby. 

1352
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,880
They're great servers. 
Was he the little boy in Harry 

1353
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,800
and the Hendersons? 
Was he the little? 

1354
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,400
No, he was the teenage. 
There was an older girl and she 

1355
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,600
had a boyfriend. 
He was like this surfer dude and

1356
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,480
he always had like, funny stuff 
to say. 

1357
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,680
But yeah, there was like, I 
can't remember the girl. 

1358
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,600
She was like the main, the 
actress. 

1359
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,160
He was the boyfriend of that of 
her. 

1360
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,440
OK, nice. 
So. 

1361
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,040
Yeah, Yeah, He was also really, 
you remember like in those 

1362
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,120
there, Well, you might be 
totally young, but there was 

1363
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,440
these corny commercials called 
Mentos Fresh Maker commercials 

1364
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,840
and they were super corny, but 
popular for some. 

1365
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,800
Reason. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1366
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,680
I think what is Chance? 
Oh, Chance is the guy that's 

1367
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,680
like he's going across the 
street and then he cuts through 

1368
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,680
a limousine and. 
Then he's just like. 

1369
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,760
And the hell he did. 
He was chance. 

1370
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,120
Yeah, dude, he was like, you 
know, it's funny because like 

1371
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,160
those were popular back. 
Then did he get a lifetime 

1372
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,560
supply of them? 
Perhaps. 

1373
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,000
I know I don't. 
Know, but he was on TV a lot for

1374
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,240
that stupid commercial man. 
It was pretty funny. 

1375
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,960
Oh shit. 
All right, next is a travel 

1376
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:03,000
question. 
HH or Airbnb? 

1377
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,400
Man, Airbnb, they're more 
interesting, right? 

1378
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,320
And then yes, for all you people
that love the Airbnb, whatever 

1379
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,400
that word I just said, don't go 
and thrash them. 

1380
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,800
Don't go fucking have all your 
friends like spill shit all over

1381
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,960
and burn it down right or. 
Whatever. 

1382
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,360
I love Airbnb if you treat them 
cool, right, Because then you 

1383
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,320
get swagged and you can like 
make fun, do whatever, watch 

1384
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,400
television, watch and check out 
the whole spots and they're 

1385
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,400
usually they're interesting and 
more economical. 

1386
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,120
Sometimes, you know, hotels are 
cool. 

1387
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,920
I like hotels when you've been 
roughing it, roughing it, you 

1388
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,600
know, like even the camping, 
like just like tent camping or 

1389
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,200
RV and you've only been at the 
beach for a week. 

1390
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,200
Go to a hotel you're like, and 
it's like you just it's their 

1391
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,440
place. 
You could throw the towels on 

1392
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,000
the floor and like, you know, 
right? 

1393
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,080
Yeah. 
Do my Lauren view. 

1394
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:56,880
I'm just kidding. 
So but yeah, Airbnb are rad when

1395
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,480
I went to even when I went to 
Europe, I think I Airbnb in 

1396
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,200
England one time, but I did 
hotels also and then I've done 

1397
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,000
it like all over, right. 
I used to work with this one 

1398
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,000
company that would do military. 
It's Larping, you know, like 

1399
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,080
live action role. 
Who's the acting gig? 

1400
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,920
But they do military simulation 
against each other and they 

1401
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,280
shoot little yellow beauties. 
Airsoft stuff, yeah. 

1402
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,600
It is airsoft. 
It's this company called Millsim

1403
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,240
W They're the premier Larping 
company, but they airsoft 

1404
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,960
against each other and they have
scenarios and script and 

1405
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,400
role-playing and everything. 
It's really pretty fun. 

1406
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,200
But they're very they're, 
they're actually international. 

1407
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,560
We've been all over. 
But yeah, they they Airbnb a lot

1408
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,800
when we travel and that's kind 
of fun because you always stay 

1409
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,320
at really cool spots. 
Yeah, dude, that's what's up. 

1410
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,600
Yeah, because a hotel is 
basically just four walls, you 

1411
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,360
know, it's always the same, but.
It can be. 

1412
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,520
That's what it's that's what I 
see. 

1413
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,320
If you just want to like, sleep 
and lay there, like watch 

1414
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,080
television, then they're cool. 
But yeah, the other ones are 

1415
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,360
interesting. 
You never know what you're going

1416
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:57,960
to see, All right? 
Next one sports question. 

1417
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,400
Basketball or football? 
I football, I love them both. 

1418
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,840
I played them both. 
I love football more even to 

1419
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,920
this day. 
I think, I think the NFL is like

1420
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,200
the craziest guys. 
They are getting weird with like

1421
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,120
advertising, trying to include 
people. 

1422
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,080
Everyone thinks it's like, oh, 
they're all going gay. 

1423
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,080
And I'm like, no, my gay friends
don't watch any more football 

1424
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,960
than they ever did. 
They don't really give a shit, 

1425
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,720
but or, and if they do, they're 
gay guys watching football. 

1426
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,320
They're not like dudes that are.
I'm here for that fucking Eagles

1427
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,440
motherfucker. 
Yeah, but yeah, football is fun,

1428
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,280
dude. 
It's a fucking. 

1429
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,240
Those dudes are gnarly athletes 
and they don't really know that.

1430
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,040
People that don't take in 
consideration that like those 

1431
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,320
dudes are so broken after 
they're done, that's a hard, you

1432
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,000
know, that's a hard life. 
Even though they're like, oh, 

1433
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,840
they're overpaid. 
No, no, not really, because 

1434
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:52,400
they're kind of fucking fucked 
up when they're done or during, 

1435
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,480
you know what I mean? 
They all end their career 

1436
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,240
because something got broke, you
know, whatever. 

1437
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,680
But basketball just to carry, 
like right now, it's all, what 

1438
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,720
would you call it? 
The NC 2 as are happening. 

1439
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,400
And it's like super fun for 
fans. 

1440
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,160
Like right now all the 
conference tournaments are 

1441
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,320
happening and they're ending. 
So you're going to find out this

1442
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,560
weekend who's going to go to the
tournament and then all the 

1443
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,120
other teams. 
And that's so fun. 

1444
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,080
That's super fun to watch. 
If you're a basketball fan, it's

1445
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,600
more fun than Bros I and the 
pros are fun in the playoffs, 

1446
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,240
but there's games in the middle 
of the season that you're like 

1447
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,600
and then basketball again. 
I think I'm not really digging 

1448
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,439
the individualism that's 
happening in professional sports

1449
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,120
because of the money. 
You know, no one really cares 

1450
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,760
about your game day fit. 
You know what I mean? 

1451
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,760
You know, like real fans don't 
really give a shit. 

1452
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,560
They just want to see you guys 
smash each other. 

1453
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,880
Yeah, we live in. 
Central or weird? 

1454
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,600
World, Yeah. 
The social media world, but. 

1455
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,439
You know, it's changed a little 
bit. 

1456
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,000
They're like this weird 
marketing environment, whatever.

1457
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,439
Basketball has broken. 
Basketball has been breaking my 

1458
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,200
heart for years because I'm a 
Bulls fan, so I. 

1459
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,000
Understood now? 
No. 

1460
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,520
I love the Bulls as well because
they, the Lakers and them were 

1461
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,800
rivals back in the day with 
Jordan and all that, you know, 

1462
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,319
with the Magic, they were 
household names right? 

1463
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,800
Now you ask people who's on the 
team, like, I don't fucking 

1464
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,040
know, right? 
Yeah, You know, that isn't like 

1465
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,640
their household names anymore 
because people got turned off of

1466
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,279
it. 
And, you know, I don't want to 

1467
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:22,640
talk about LeBron James, but he 
kind of like the Laker people. 

1468
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,080
It's either, no, I'll tell you 
the truth. 

1469
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,439
I've been a Laker fan my whole 
life. 

1470
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,640
People hate that dude. 
Yeah. 

1471
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,359
You know, I don't mean they hate
him as his ability, but as a 

1472
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,319
fan. 
They're ready to him for to go 

1473
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:35,240
somewhere else so they can root 
for someone else that they 

1474
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,160
really like. 
Right. 

1475
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,120
You know, the last time that was
around was when Kobe and Shaq 

1476
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,319
were here and, you know, and now
they're not, you know, and that 

1477
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:44,439
and to be honest, like 
basketball used to be kind of 

1478
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,960
like a favorite TV show for 
people. 

1479
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,880
Like every Friday night they 
watch this or whatever. 

1480
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,359
But now it's not even on the 
radar. 

1481
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,600
You know, It really isn't. 
And that's weird. 

1482
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,960
Like you said, it's been like 
that for a few years after 

1483
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,200
Jordan left the Bulls. 
You know, who watches them? 

1484
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,920
You know, And I go and then. 
Yeah. 

1485
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,880
So. 
Yeah, but you know, it's still 

1486
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,640
fond a lot of great athletes, 
those dudes, again, just amazing

1487
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,360
guys, you know what I mean? 
So yeah, otherwise. 

1488
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,840
Go ahead next one holidays, 
Halloween or Christmas. 

1489
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,080
I know your your birthday, 
you're a you're a December 

1490
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,160
fella. 
So yeah, but which one you like 

1491
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,120
more? 
Halloween or Christmas? 

1492
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,680
Man, that's a. 
Tough decision dude, now that I 

1493
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,160
have my kid, you know what I 
mean? 

1494
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,160
Cuz we go hard on Halloween cuz 
we have a neighborhood right 

1495
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:31,120
here and it's so kid friendly 
dude it's like 4 blocks. 

1496
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,720
They cut it. 
It's huge. 

1497
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,840
It's a lot like your kids like, 
Dang, that's a lot of candy. 

1498
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,120
Cuz they like, I, I couldn't 
imagine living in that 

1499
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,640
neighborhood because there's one
St. called Purdue Ave. and then 

1500
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,880
there's any other, the 
neighbourhood's been doing it 

1501
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,280
for, since when my kids been 
like, you know, they just, 

1502
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,480
they're really cool about 
Halloween and they do all the 

1503
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:52,240
decorating and they go off, you 
know, so you just literally walk

1504
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,960
a big square block and it's a 
lot, it's a lot of stuff. 

1505
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,120
So, and we always, now that 
she's getting older, it might 

1506
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,600
not be as much, but we always 
make like a little float, you 

1507
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,520
know, a little wagon with some 
kind of thing that corresponds 

1508
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,760
with our cost. 
That shit's fun, dude. 

1509
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,680
That's a fun night. 
So I'd have to say Halloween and

1510
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,080
I love Christmas too because we 
do Santa Claus and all that, you

1511
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:21,200
know, but so until, you know, my
daughter's still 8 now I'm like,

1512
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:24,280
she's getting older and done it.
But so yeah, for, you know, 

1513
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,920
Halloween and and those are, 
that's a tough one to be honest,

1514
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,840
because when you have kids, man,
they're super fun at that one at

1515
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,480
a age, you know, because we do 
elf on the shelves and that's a 

1516
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:35,400
new thing. 
But the kids are super 

1517
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,280
fascinated by that one. 
So it's like, that's it's pretty

1518
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,720
cool. 
Halloween, I guess. 

1519
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,760
Yeah, keep the magic alive. 
You know that's. 

1520
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,320
Yeah, as long as you care. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1521
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,160
Vermont, dude. 
That's why, like, people are 

1522
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,520
like, some people, like, told 
me, like, I remember one time 

1523
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,960
they're like Santa Clara, he's 
all fake and he's banging and I 

1524
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,280
go fucking shut up. 
My parents did that to me and I,

1525
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,800
oh, I'm so scarred, you know, I 
was like, fuck that. 

1526
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,440
I thought it was real. 
I thought I was bitching. 

1527
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,040
You know what I mean? 
I really thought like, oh man, I

1528
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,920
better go to bed. 
I was, I was like, he's going to

1529
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,680
catch me asleep or no way and 
it's going to fuck it up. 

1530
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,200
Yeah, exactly. 
I'm trying to. 

1531
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,920
See him? 
No, I'm not going to get the 

1532
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,880
better. 
And then I swear I heard bells 

1533
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,920
and shit like I think I heard 
bells last night. 

1534
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,520
I'm telling. 
I mean, our kids, like I said, 

1535
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,400
my, my daughter's 18, my son's 
16 and we still, you know, 

1536
01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:25,760
Christmas Eve, like we do the 
one gift and then we literally 

1537
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,840
wait till they go to bed and 
then we bring down the Santa 

1538
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,000
like they know Santa. 
He's yeah, no Santa. 

1539
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,760
No, that's what my parents did. 
That's totally cool, bro. 

1540
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,360
There's nothing wrong with that 
whatsoever. 

1541
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,720
Because I've heard people do, 
because some people just aren't 

1542
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,240
in the holidays, period. 
They're like, OK, Bah, humbugs. 

1543
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,360
Yeah. 
And then, yeah, I don't get off 

1544
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:46,760
on the whole religious part of 
it either. 

1545
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:47,880
You're like, that's not what 
it's about. 

1546
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,080
It's Jesus birthday. 
Like, oh Jesus. 

1547
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:52,760
Yeah, here. 
I just want to. 

1548
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:55,080
I just want some new socks, man.
No. 

1549
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,840
For real. 
Like. 

1550
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:04,800
Next one this I don't know the 
the people listening or watching

1551
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,160
or however they're consuming 
this. 

1552
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:11,760
I don't know how well versed 
they are in your your life 

1553
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:18,440
outside of Elm Street, but 
right, you know you you're not 

1554
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,000
afraid to get your hands dirty. 
You're a working man, which is. 

1555
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,840
Part Oh yeah, I love 
construction, brother. 

1556
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,200
I love it. 
I actually like it almost as 

1557
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,240
much as acting. 
This is 0 Yeah, what's the I 

1558
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,600
just. 
I do, I love construction. 

1559
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,960
Here's The funny thing. 
I and I'm not like, I mean, I 

1560
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,960
can build stuff and all that, 
but I like to get it done. 

1561
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,400
Let's say remodel, kitchen, 
bathroom, right. 

1562
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,920
You know what, when you make 
that mess where you got to take 

1563
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,040
that mess and it's got to go 
somewhere, you can't just dump 

1564
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,880
it. 
So that part of the health, the 

1565
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,320
whole creative part, everybody's
got their own mind. 

1566
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,640
Like if you do you like. 
I want my kitchen to look like 

1567
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,200
this and it's like, so I, you 
know, building is it's OK, but 

1568
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,840
you still have to interact with 
people. 

1569
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,760
Taking stuff apart and taking it
to the dump is easier, you know,

1570
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,040
absolutely, but not that we 
can't build stuff. 

1571
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,680
We can't. 
The guys that I work with, we 

1572
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,240
all. 
But here's what's funny. 

1573
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:10,720
I I was sitting there the other 
day and there was like, all the 

1574
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,360
award shows are happening, 
right? 

1575
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,800
And I'm going to tell you guys, 
the award shows are 100% 

1576
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,440
bullshit. 
People pay for them. 

1577
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:19,040
I don't know how it really 
works. 

1578
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,920
I've been a member of Academy 
since 87 and dude, yeah. 

1579
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,400
And every year since then, I've 
tried to enjoy the Oscars or 

1580
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,480
these movies, these award shows.
But then I realized it's never 

1581
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:34,600
what you think. 
It's, it's, there's an agenda to

1582
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,600
it. 
And half the fucking movies, 

1583
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,520
half the movies, you don't even 
know what the you never saw. 

1584
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,120
They're they're shit. 
They're not even good. 

1585
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:48,520
You're like, this movie sucks. 
And I'm being honest. 

1586
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,880
And it's been like that since 
87, dude. 

1587
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,800
So I don't give a shit about any
of these shows, right, right. 

1588
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,160
And then you remember when the 
comedian Gervais or whatever the

1589
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,360
comedian fucking tore in get 
your fucking award. 

1590
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,760
That's you know, it was super 
funny, right? 

1591
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,800
And sure enough, I'm watching 
one of those shows and they 

1592
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,360
fucking been this year. 
Every actor thought there were 

1593
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,960
some kind of fucking activist or
some shit just talking so much 

1594
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,520
shit. 
And I was sitting there just 

1595
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,360
like listening and everything. 
And I thought to myself, you 

1596
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,720
know why? 
Because your job and I'm an 

1597
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,920
actor. 
Your job is so fucking 

1598
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,840
meaningless. 
And be honest. 

1599
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,120
It's non essential. 
Technically you're a fucking 

1600
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,640
actor. 
Just be an actor. 

1601
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,240
We don't want to hear your 
fucking opinion. 

1602
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,520
You know and. 
So and it's truly meaningless. 

1603
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,400
So my whole correlation is I'd 
rather tear apart someone's 

1604
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,360
kitchen and help them out then 
go to an award show and hang 

1605
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,600
around a bunch of people and 
tell each other how great we 

1606
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,280
are. 
And and half the fucking people 

1607
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,400
didn't even see the movie. 
Like the movies that everyone 

1608
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,920
watched, people are like, oh, 
that's a kind of commercial. 

1609
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,800
And to me personally, I think 
commercial success is part of 

1610
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,640
the fucking game. 
The arts are liberal. 

1611
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,000
It's a liberal business that 
this is where you can do all 

1612
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,560
that. 
But for some reason they keep, 

1613
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,280
I'm talking since 80s. 
They keep wanting to say like, 

1614
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,480
oh, there's not enough gays or 
blacks represented. 

1615
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,200
Brother, I'm an actor. 
You know who my competition is? 

1616
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,600
Gays and blacks, and I'm not 
saying that to be mean or 

1617
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,760
anything. 
I'm being 100% fucking on. 

1618
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,160
It there's 1000 people, yeah, 
fighting for your job. 

1619
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,600
And then who like go back all 
the way to like, who's making 

1620
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,880
the money? 
Like pop music, Whitney Houston,

1621
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,320
Michael Jackson, you know, I 
mean this. 

1622
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,680
And then they go to the shows. 
Like we need to represent more 

1623
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,240
minorities. 
Like, what the fuck are you 

1624
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,240
talking about? 
They're they're running the 

1625
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,720
show, you dumbass, you know, And
then also like gay people, like 

1626
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,640
I have a lot of gay people who 
are my friends. 

1627
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,080
So it's not like I'm talking bad
or anything, but I'm getting 

1628
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,840
nice. 
There's hundreds of gay Rock 

1629
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,440
Hudson was gay, you know what I 
mean? 

1630
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,880
So but now for some reason they 
want straight actors to be like,

1631
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,000
if you get a gay role, I'm like,
why don't they just get a gay 

1632
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,560
dude? 
Million of it right there in the

1633
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,600
fucking wings waiting. 
Don't give me that shit that 

1634
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,200
they're not represented that 
they're they're it's a liberal 

1635
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,360
business, you know what I mean? 
So it's just again, marketing, 

1636
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:09,360
dude. 
They're trying to just make 

1637
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,480
people think something else. 
But people will go watch what 

1638
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:15,840
they want. 
So that's what again, how do you

1639
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,960
get started? 
Or how do you, if you knew that 

1640
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,520
if we knew what was gonna be 
popular, we'd be so rich, 

1641
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,560
brother, You know what I mean? 
Yeah. 

1642
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,760
You know, you don't know what 
people are gonna dig. 

1643
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,880
So. 
Yeah, and that's what I always 

1644
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,480
say. 
I don't care about politics and 

1645
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:30,280
acting. 
Like I brought, like I said, I'm

1646
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,720
more proud of helping people 
when I'm done fucking helping 

1647
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,640
them do their kitchen or the 
bathroom or a retaining wall, 

1648
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,200
you know what I mean? 
Then and then not that I'm not 

1649
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,280
proud of the movies, I am, but 
at the end of the day, I help, 

1650
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,200
you know, those, those aren't 
really that important. 

1651
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,440
That's just, that's like 
something that I, you know, you 

1652
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:47,960
can go buy and watch and yeah, 
it gives you like an hour of 

1653
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,760
freedom, you know what I mean? 
So that's why I'm still into 

1654
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,280
making movies. 
I really enjoy it, but let's get

1655
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,800
down to how serious it is. 
We have an earthquake right now.

1656
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,680
No one gives a fuck if you're a 
filmmaker. 

1657
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,640
I need a wheelbarrow. 
I need something to turn the 

1658
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,640
water off. 
Yeah. 

1659
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,840
So I'm just saying, I just think
like when I saw these actors 

1660
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,200
taking themselves so fucking 
serious, I was like, it's 

1661
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,080
because your job is so fucking 
meaningless, you weirdos. 

1662
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,320
You know what? 
I mean get. 

1663
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,520
Paid. 
We get paid to play pretend, you

1664
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:17,560
know what I mean? 
So. 

1665
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,520
Yeah, dude. 
And that's what I love about 

1666
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,440
Renee Perez, regardless of he's 
he's he's all that want to get 

1667
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:23,560
into it. 
He's also the other way. 

1668
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,880
He hates he uses the word woke 
and hates liberals and says 

1669
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,160
libtard and all that and 
liberal, liberal. 

1670
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,560
I hate liberal liberal. 
And even the two movies I did 

1671
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,520
with them, like it kind of had 
this theme. 

1672
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,280
And I go, I told him him when I 
go, bro, can we do another 

1673
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:37,960
movie? 
But can it not be part of the 

1674
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:42,840
Danny Hassel? 
I hate Liberals series because 

1675
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,640
like every movie kind of has 
this couple scenes where he says

1676
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,280
some weird shit. 
So yeah, but he's all about 

1677
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,400
that. 
So I don't even, you know, 

1678
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,680
that's why I'm saying he's kind 
of an eccentric director to work

1679
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:53,240
with. 
But. 

1680
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,400
Right. 
We get movies done. 

1681
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,160
So that part of it I enjoy. 
I love. 

1682
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,880
I love getting it done. 
He's efficient, like cool, we 

1683
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,000
did it like the last one we did.
It's called, it's called 

1684
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,480
straight white male. 
Again, the him and the actually 

1685
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:08,040
it was called exit the Empire or
like exit the government. 

1686
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,560
It was supposed to be like that.
You're right, like freedom isn't

1687
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,760
free or all these other 
adjectives because it has it, 

1688
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,280
it's a pilot. 
And then it goes into this other

1689
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,320
part where it almost, I don't 
want to say like 48 hours, but 

1690
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,960
it comes to be almost like a 
Jack Bauer scenario, right? 

1691
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,200
OK, really cool script and 
whatever. 

1692
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,680
But then him and the producer 
got into it about whatever, 

1693
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,000
about distribution and he titled
it straight White male and 

1694
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,920
putting on humble. 
And that's the title of a movie,

1695
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,480
Straight White male. 
I started laughing so fucking 

1696
01:19:35,480 --> 01:19:36,720
hard. 
I thought it was a joke. 

1697
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,360
I was like, dude, you fucking 
ruined that movie. 

1698
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,200
But because I own it and I have 
the master, I own part of it. 

1699
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:46,880
I when I, when I redo it, I'm 
going to change the fucking 

1700
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,560
title. 
You know what I mean? 

1701
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:54,120
I was like shit, I mean, but him
it was all because just to tell 

1702
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,600
you the truth is because him and
the producer started having. 

1703
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,880
Beef, yeah. 
Issues, yeah. 

1704
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,600
And he went on his own and just 
did it without even telling me. 

1705
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,520
And I owned some of it. 
It was like finding out you're 

1706
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,560
traded on a sports team from the
newspaper or something. 

1707
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,800
I was like. 
I I know shit people are calling

1708
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,000
me like dude, your movies on 
humble and I'm like posted it 

1709
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,080
and I look and. 
I What the fuck? 

1710
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,000
And it was the wrong title and 
the the poster, they I'm already

1711
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,240
old, but the actual movie 
poster, they aged me a bit. 

1712
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,280
They put like Gray hair, like it
was really funky. 

1713
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:22,920
Dude. 
I was like, they aged to me. 

1714
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,320
They made me look older. 
They hit you. 

1715
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,480
You know what I mean? 
They hit you with the AI poster,

1716
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,080
Yeah. 
They didn't do and they age me 

1717
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,120
and then there's one poster 
where it's real, run all the 

1718
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,800
gun, and then the other one that
it's a gun that I didn't even 

1719
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,280
use in the movie. 
Fucking fake. 

1720
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,480
Fake. 
Yeah. 

1721
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,120
Oh my God. 
That was a. 

1722
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:46,960
Rather only I've gotten to have 
like 7 fingers. 

1723
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,200
But anyhow, it was, you know, 
but that's part of the industry.

1724
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,200
And again, I don't have any hard
feelings towards anybody because

1725
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,800
you know why, dude? 
We got the movie done. 

1726
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,840
Yeah, yeah. 
And to me, that's all I cared 

1727
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,000
about. 
You know what I mean? 

1728
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,520
Now on to the next project. 
Cool. 

1729
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,440
I'll, I'll do another movie 
because it's like playing 

1730
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:04,920
guitar, acting, all of it to me.
The only way you get better is 

1731
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,440
by doing it. 
Absolutely. 

1732
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,080
You take all the classes you 
want, but I don't care if you're

1733
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,640
working on a tiny project or a 
big project or a commercial, as 

1734
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,600
soon as they say and you the 
cameras are rolling, that's when

1735
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,880
you're doing your thing, right? 
Or if you're playing guitar and 

1736
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,600
they're like beep, beep or with 
the drums, you know you're doing

1737
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,600
your thing. 
And then when you're done, that 

1738
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,560
experience that you went through
is, is 20 fold what you'll learn

1739
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,400
in any kind of other situations,
right? 

1740
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,640
It's not anything surfing, 
dancing, whatever. 

1741
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,160
You got to do it to get better 
at it. 

1742
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,480
So that's why I love making 
movies because I just, you know,

1743
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,720
I can go up and get them done in
Northern California. 

1744
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,680
And yeah, sometimes it's 
literally the crew we're 

1745
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:44,880
carrying. 
I'm carrying a cat. 

1746
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,680
We're do it, man. 
Yeah, it's not like where's my 

1747
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,600
chair? 
You know, it'll be like 4 people

1748
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:50,240
there. 
Yeah. 

1749
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:57,680
So that was an excellent, like 
wild departure, but I was going 

1750
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,880
to ask you. 
Go for. 

1751
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,000
It roofing or concrete? 
Oh, concrete bro. 

1752
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,840
All day long, man. 
Coffee. 

1753
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,240
I'm a concrete dude. 
Because it's hard fucking work. 

1754
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,160
No, roofing is hard too, 
especially if you're white and 

1755
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,040
it's summer. 
Yeah. 

1756
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,560
Yeah, I used to. 
I used to do roofing. 

1757
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,160
It's fucking. 
Sunburn, dude, you're fucking 

1758
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,640
sunburn, bro. 
That shit's hard. 

1759
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,920
Yeah, and then, but no, I'm a 
concrete whatever that's on my I

1760
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,520
was the start of my job. 
We were like the guys, it's hard

1761
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,840
work. 
You got to dig a dig D rebar, 

1762
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,400
all that shit, dude, it's like 
time and and then pumping 

1763
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,480
concrete yourself and it's hard 
and not making a mess, 

1764
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:37,040
especially like in where 
neighborhoods like fucking 

1765
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,040
Beverly Hills and you know, 
Palisades, Brentwood, you can't 

1766
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,320
blow out a fucking you make a 
mess looking concrete all over. 

1767
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,560
You got to be so good, dude. 
You got to fuck. 

1768
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,360
You got to be good. 
You got to know your shit. 

1769
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,160
But yeah, I have a there's a guy
named Jim Borland and Donnie 

1770
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,400
Wilson. 
They're they're contractors that

1771
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,600
I work for. 
They were like my mentors and I 

1772
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,040
still to this day work with 
them. 

1773
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,800
They're great. 
They know their shit when it 

1774
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,760
comes to concrete and 
foundations and all those 

1775
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,080
retaining walls and all that 
stuff. 

1776
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,360
That's hard work. 
But I definitely love concrete. 

1777
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,720
Concrete way more than roofing. 
Yeah, but it's hard. 

1778
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,440
Yeah. 
And you know, and then, oh, once

1779
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:11,120
you start pouring concrete, you,
you can't. 

1780
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,000
You're you got to. 
You got to. 

1781
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,040
Finish. 
When you're done, you're like, 

1782
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,640
when are you done? 
You're like, when we're done, we

1783
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,320
don't know. 
You know, it's like fixing as 

1784
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,240
you're doing it. 
You do get it. 

1785
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,560
Once the hoses start flowing, 
you can't be like time out. 

1786
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:22,920
Let's go do something. 
You're like, yeah. 

1787
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,760
Yeah, pretty fun. 
Good question, Good question. 

1788
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:32,480
I mean, you know, I construction
is construction is hardcore. 

1789
01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:34,080
It's. 
Physical work. 

1790
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,160
It's physical work. 
That's why like if you even if 

1791
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,280
you're not built for it, like 
you get a young guy and he's 

1792
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,480
like kind of awkwardly built and
kind of a gut or something and 

1793
01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:43,080
you're like, dude, you're going 
to have a hard fucking day. 

1794
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,920
I mean, this is hard work, you 
know what I mean? 

1795
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,560
So it's funny, man. 
But yeah, there's it. 

1796
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,960
You know, like I said, I like it
because it's hard work. 

1797
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,200
But I also, I'm, I'm doing more 
for people than you know, Half 

1798
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,080
the people don't even know that 
I'm an actor when they find out,

1799
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,480
right? 
Or they're like, no fucking way,

1800
01:23:58,480 --> 01:23:59,560
dude, You know what I mean? 
Cool. 

1801
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,200
But they're more happy that I 
fixed their retaining wall than 

1802
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,680
some fucking movie they don't 
appreciate. 

1803
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:08,840
A word, yeah, it's cool because 
it's very, it's it's, I don't 

1804
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,480
want to say selfless work, but 
you know what I mean? 

1805
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:13,800
It's not like it doesn't like, 
it's not like inflating your ego

1806
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,400
by someone. 
Telling what, how great you are,

1807
01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:17,720
but like, you're up. 
You're absolutely right. 

1808
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,920
And part of me gets off on that,
to be honest, because I do both 

1809
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,080
ends. 
I do, you know, the artist world

1810
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,040
where people take themselves way
too fucking serious. 

1811
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,440
And then the people, the blue 
collar dudes are, hey, you 

1812
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:28,480
better take those guys here. 
Otherwise the city's going in 

1813
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:30,360
the toilet, literally. 
Absolutely. 

1814
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,880
So I have no respect for that. 
You know, I was a Carpenter by 

1815
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,240
trade. 
My dad was a framer so but then 

1816
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,720
I got into, like I said, 
foundations and concrete, and 

1817
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,240
then now it's like, not that I 
liked it, but demolition is. 

1818
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,920
I'm fine with demo. 
I don't need to build your 

1819
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,600
custom kitchen because there you
know, you can did money is a 

1820
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,680
problem. 
I'm more like efficiency guy. 

1821
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,040
You know what I mean? 
I want to work proper and I'm 

1822
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,480
not, but designing my when I 
tell people all the time, my 

1823
01:24:56,480 --> 01:25:00,040
advice is don't get creative, 
just make it, you know, you get 

1824
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,000
creative. 
They're like, I want it. 

1825
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,840
Next thing you know, it's like 
an $80 million project of stuff 

1826
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,720
that you don't really need, you 
know what I mean? 

1827
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,680
So yeah, I see stuff. 
I just see like, Nope, that's 

1828
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,960
got to go, that's got to go. 
And then put the most efficient 

1829
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,720
thing in there that works, you 
know, not like. 

1830
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:19,120
Design guy you. 
Know it's like I leave that 

1831
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,360
after the pros because they do. 
We have architects and other 

1832
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,000
people that, you know, talk to 
home and decide what they want 

1833
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,520
to build. 
I mean, usually it all depends 

1834
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,960
on your budget. 
And that's another thing people 

1835
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,840
don't understand that after 
COVID, construction materials 

1836
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,640
are like freaking diamonds. 
They got so expensive. 

1837
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,200
There's a there's a old joke 
during COVID. 

1838
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,200
So plywood was like $35 at one 
point, right? 

1839
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,240
Plywood read a four by eight 
piece of plywood, it jumped to 

1840
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,000
$99, right? 
Yeah. 

1841
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,920
And so we during COVID, this 
one, we were doing a foreman. 

1842
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,920
I was building a really cool 
hotel downtown. 

1843
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,480
And this one guy was like, I 
was, I'm going to be a little 

1844
01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:56,240
late tomorrow because this 
morning he goes, one of our 

1845
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:00,400
drivers, a piece of plywood, 
flew off and hit a truck behind 

1846
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,640
him. 
And he goes, Oh no, he goes, 

1847
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,920
yeah, it's OK though. 
I sold two pieces of plywood and

1848
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,480
bought 3 new trucks. 
Dude, you're not kidding. 

1849
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,520
Plywood 2 by fours. 
Outrageous. 

1850
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,240
It's unreal dude. 
That's why I no, I didn't. 

1851
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,280
I'm telling you it was during 
that time, 2020 to 2022. 

1852
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,440
It's like, I mean just crazy. 
It still hasn't really come 

1853
01:26:20,440 --> 01:26:21,000
down. 
South. 

1854
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,560
So a weird little sidebar on 
that with wood prices. 

1855
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,640
When we were filming our movie, 
we had one, one gag. 

1856
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,200
You know, you have to have prop 
weapons. 

1857
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:36,400
I wanted a breakaway baseball 
bat, which is balsa wood, you 

1858
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:36,960
know. 
Sure. 

1859
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,000
And there's a company new rule 
effects and I think they're out 

1860
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,720
of California. 
I had, yeah. 

1861
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,280
I bookmarked it before the COVID
stuff and I was like, this is 

1862
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,760
where I'm going to order all my 
stuff and it was dirt cheap, 

1863
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:54,000
like 30 or $40. 
By the time we got to shooting 

1864
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:58,000
and we had to order the props, 
they were like $300.00 for a 

1865
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:02,360
Baltimore baseball bat that I 
get to swing one time, you know?

1866
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,600
What I'm saying, honestly, I 
remember because people were 

1867
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,800
doing budgets like homeowners, 
corporations, just they're like,

1868
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,920
this is getting a little steep, 
you know, because I was working 

1869
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,080
to be I was working at a 
commercial job downtown. 

1870
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,240
But then when you when it 
switched, when we go to the 

1871
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,520
commercial places, especially 
people we've known before COVID 

1872
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,840
and we did their backyard. 
Now they hey, can you come back 

1873
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,840
and redo some stuff? 
And he said and then you by the 

1874
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,080
way, look at the prices now and 
they're like, what? 

1875
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,640
And it's like, and we're not 
even, we're honest guys. 

1876
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,760
We just time the materials. 
We're not ripping people off, 

1877
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,680
you know what I mean? 
So you just, it's pretty easy if

1878
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,720
you're honest, dude. 
It's just, you know, yeah, yeah,

1879
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,360
that sucks. 
That's with everything, gas, 

1880
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,880
everything sucks. 
Everything's getting, you know, 

1881
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,400
it's miserable. 
Everyone thinks LA is super cool

1882
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,880
and it is super cool, but it's 
like any other major city. 

1883
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,840
You got to get through 800 
fucking dip shits to find the 

1884
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:50,520
cool. 
You know what? 

1885
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:51,320
I. 
Mean so. 

1886
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:53,760
Many. 
Dude, there's so many idiots out

1887
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,560
here bro. 
I mean, Oh my God. 

1888
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:56,840
Trust me. 
Yeah. 

1889
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,360
Well, on a on a lighter note of 
that, since you were talking 

1890
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,520
about music, you prefer acoustic
or electric guitar. 

1891
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,200
Believe it or not, acoustic, 
because I yeah, acoustic guitar.

1892
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,400
I that's how I learned to play 
music originally from like 7th 

1893
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,320
grade till now. 
I still have one right here. 

1894
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,160
And you can travel with it. 
You know what I mean? 

1895
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:20,400
You can, you know, Yeah, because
I actually play electric bass. 

1896
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,280
But electric bass by itself is 
pretty fucking nerdy. 

1897
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,320
You're like, what are you 
denying a dude all by himself? 

1898
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,360
You're like, that's pretty 
avant-garde there, bro. 

1899
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:32,640
Boom boom. 
You might need another band 

1900
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:37,200
around you. 
So yeah, even when I, when I 

1901
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,640
went to college and took music 
and I went to a junior college, 

1902
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,160
but they had a killer music 
program. 

1903
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,400
I took jazz ensemble, but I was 
a bass player, electric bass. 

1904
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,480
But all the guitar stuff helps 
you navigate the neck and know 

1905
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:51,200
what's going on, right? 
So, but bass is a whole 

1906
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:52,760
different animal and it's 
electric. 

1907
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,920
It's electric. 
So for me, that's my rocket 

1908
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,920
ship, the fun one, the Harley or
the rock, you know, rock. 

1909
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,440
And the base is my like hot rod.
But the acoustic is my jam. 

1910
01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:04,560
That's what I go to and what I 
took with me all around, you 

1911
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,160
know, So I always have it. 
Hell yeah, yeah. 

1912
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,240
And a jam is at a moment's 
notice because you don't have to

1913
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,880
have electricity or anything, 
so. 

1914
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:12,240
That's it though. 
That's it. 

1915
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,080
That's actually the young guitar
player that like when I first, 

1916
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,520
when I was in Victrola, that's 
what his thing was, is like, you

1917
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,160
know, he's like, Nah, dude, 
we're gonna be walking or 

1918
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,880
wherever and just bust out our 
guitars and all that. 

1919
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,800
Yeah, you're right, dude. 
This is actually cool. 

1920
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,080
Yeah. 
So last question of the hot 

1921
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:31,920
takes, this may or may not I 
suppose, rub our listeners a 

1922
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,480
different way because we are the
Deep Cut Podcast and we 

1923
01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:39,640
primarily cover horror. 
So the question is, when you're 

1924
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,560
chilling at home and you're just
vibing and you got to pick a 

1925
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,080
movie, are you a horror movie or
an action movie kind of guy? 

1926
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,800
Man, that's a tough decision. 
That's I wouldn't go action 

1927
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,440
because I'm so jaded from the 
80s horror. 

1928
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:58,000
Yeah, that like this is the 
first time this this movie 

1929
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,600
sinners and the movie with the 
kids running. 

1930
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:01,800
What the fuck was? 
That weapons. 

1931
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,960
Weapons, yeah. 
Oh, dude, those are the only two

1932
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,560
movies in the last I'm not as 
not I'm not nothing that gets to

1933
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,680
scream franchise. 
I just never was a fan. 

1934
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,600
I never really, and I just I'm 
being honest, even though 

1935
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,280
they're huge, but it's it's been
a minute for me to like go watch

1936
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,400
horror films because some of 
them I'm like, you know, so 

1937
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:20,280
action. 
Yeah. 

1938
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:25,000
So I it's going to yeah. 
So, but I will say this, I'm not

1939
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,000
going to again the Oscars like 
that movie singers going to win 

1940
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,560
or did they win everything? 
I can't remember. 

1941
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,400
I think, I think they won a 
bunch of stuff, yeah. 

1942
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,760
Yeah, well, that's never 
happened, but I think it's all 

1943
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,200
fixed anyhow because the movie 
is actually fucking good. 

1944
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,560
Because here's my take on that. 
Because it was commercially 

1945
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,160
successful, people went and saw 
it. 

1946
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,880
So all the people up here were 
like, oh, really? 

1947
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,800
You know, like maybe we should 
give them an Oscar because 

1948
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,560
everyone's watching that, you 
know, let's try to be hip again.

1949
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:51,960
Yeah, You know what I mean? 
So. 

1950
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,800
But yeah, that movie and that 
weapons movie where the kids 

1951
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:56,600
running with the lane. 
And God, yeah. 

1952
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:01,320
And I was, I enjoyed that. 
Not because that's a tough 

1953
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,680
question you asked. 
Out of this year, I'd have to 

1954
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,120
say horror because those two 
movies were like the the one 

1955
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,080
Weapons movie. 
I was holding my seat, gripping 

1956
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,120
my the, you know, the armrest a 
couple of times. 

1957
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,000
Yeah, when she was, you know, 
fucking with the kids parents. 

1958
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,800
I was just like oh this movies 
intense. 

1959
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,840
The fork man when they're like 
stabbing their faces. 

1960
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,200
That's what I mean. 
That part just sent me on edge. 

1961
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,040
And then the little boy, stop 
it. 

1962
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,520
Make him stop, you know, you 
know, I was like, oh, it's 

1963
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,200
movies bugging the. 
Shit out of me but. 

1964
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,680
It was it was good. 
It was good. 

1965
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,800
It was weird and trippy scared, 
not scared me, but it was a 

1966
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,560
trippy movie to me. 
I thought I'd go whoa. 

1967
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,240
And if it if it evokes that 
emotion out of me, I'm like, oh,

1968
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,400
that's a good movie. 
Yeah, you know, there's sinners 

1969
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,840
movie to me. 
I'm not going to say it was I 

1970
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,080
enjoyed it, but it had like a 
real slickness to it too. 

1971
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,400
Like it was pretty, pretty high 
tech. 

1972
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,800
Everyone was gorgeous, you know,
a lot of sexualized stuff, but I

1973
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,360
didn't. 
But still a very power rated 

1974
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,000
movie. 
So but I I enjoyed it. 

1975
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:03,440
And then to be honest, you know,
any of the other movies I even 

1976
01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:04,880
go fucking see. 
I don't want to sit here and 

1977
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,920
talk bad about other movies, but
a lot of times a lot Oscars or 

1978
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,720
SAG awards or any of those 
except for like MTV awards, 

1979
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,080
which aren't even a thing 
anymore. 

1980
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,320
I don't even watch those movies 
because I half the movies I 

1981
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,560
won't even go see. 
It's either going to be action, 

1982
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:22,440
horror, science fiction, if it's
a drama or some kind of, you 

1983
01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:25,840
know, I'm probably going to pass
it up, you know, I won't see it.

1984
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,080
And, you know, So, yeah, just to
be. 

1985
01:32:28,440 --> 01:32:30,440
I like to be. 
I like to enjoy the movie. 

1986
01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:30,680
Yeah. 
You. 

1987
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,880
Want to have some fun? 
I was going to say you, you 

1988
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:39,040
don't necessarily strike me as 
like, like watching the art 

1989
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,920
house movies. 
That's not like that's not. 

1990
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,160
Our mind, that's not. 
Again, not that I'm knocking 

1991
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,880
acting. 
I like acting in movies, but 

1992
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,080
again, I play music with my 
friends still. 

1993
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,400
But it's you're not going to 
call it and say, hey man, you 

1994
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,880
guys want to go to the park and 
do some theater or maybe do some

1995
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,600
acting. 
You know, you're not going to 

1996
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,640
see me doing that, even though, 
you know, because some people 

1997
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,080
really enjoy acting like. 
Oh I love. 

1998
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:07,720
Acting and I'm like you do OK I 
mean I like it but not like 

1999
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,600
that. 
I like music, you know I like 

2000
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,840
surfing, you know what I mean 
but but I like I like making 

2001
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,480
movies, you know what I mean but
I'm not a theater guy, you know 

2002
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,560
even though I tried it like I 
said we talked about earlier and

2003
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:22,560
I'm not that I'm not even I'm OK
at it too I've done plays but I 

2004
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,000
don't like it that much I like 
the camera part about it. 

2005
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,360
You know, the whole like acting 
for a camera instead of being on

2006
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,920
a stage and acting in front of 
people and all that, even though

2007
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:33,840
I mean that it's that is part of
acting. 

2008
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,760
But like I said, you know, the 
other part I enjoy more. 

2009
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,920
And then the weird thing is it 
sucks when you do a movie, 

2010
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,720
there's nobody there going yeah,
or whatever. 

2011
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,480
You just, it's very dry and 
you're done and you're just 

2012
01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:47,600
hopefully working with. 
It's almost like music is like 

2013
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,200
that too. 
In your studio recording. 

2014
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,640
You don't, you know, you just 
you're trying to get it done. 

2015
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:55,000
And it's more like almost 
logistics than it is like, oh, 

2016
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,840
I'm performing in front of all 
of these people, You know what I

2017
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,280
mean? 
Because, yeah, you're creating 

2018
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,240
a. 
You're creating a, you know, so 

2019
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:03,600
it's. 
Kind of absolutely. 

2020
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:04,120
You're right. 
Yeah. 

2021
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,360
And you are performing. 
You need your capturing a 

2022
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:07,840
performance. 
It's just there's not an 

2023
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,840
audience, a live audience, but 
they're still casting your 

2024
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,760
performance. 
That's why I don't think AI will

2025
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,200
ever take over, right? 
Because there's something that 

2026
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,720
happens when a live performance 
does even music and, and there 

2027
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,840
are imperfections. 
AI won't be, it'll be perfect. 

2028
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,520
You got what I'm saying? 
That's why even playing music 

2029
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,760
versus a drum track, there's 
imperfections. 

2030
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,320
And, and, but I'm telling you, 
it's all about, you know, the 

2031
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,400
vibe and frequencies, whatever 
you want to call it, humans do 

2032
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,400
it better than machines. 
That's just that, you know, 

2033
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,800
you're still capturing a 
performance when you when you do

2034
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,400
acting or you're recording 
music. 

2035
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:38,880
Absolutely. 
You know, while you're, you're 

2036
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,800
capturing a performance. 
But it's like I, yeah, but like 

2037
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,600
I said, I still keep my acting 
chops up by doing movies. 

2038
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,560
But I as like, if I have free 
time, I'm like I said, I'm not 

2039
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,880
going to go to the theatre and 
like the volunteer theatre and 

2040
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,600
go, hey guys, want to come see 
me in my play? 

2041
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,960
And I'm like, no, it's not, you 
know, not going to. 

2042
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,280
Do that so so we're not going to
be running lines together. 

2043
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,880
Yeah, do it. 
You know, it's even worse at my 

2044
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:06,120
age. 
Do it. 

2045
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,080
I I don't do TikTok, but it 
feels the same way. 

2046
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,440
Like I'm a old man. 
I'm doing a TikTok video because

2047
01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:14,040
I'm sending him an audition. 
You know, you feel really 

2048
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:18,280
fucking down, Dave. 
I liked it the old days when you

2049
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,720
go to some person's office and 
audition for. 

2050
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:21,720
Him right? 
Yeah. 

2051
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,240
Even then it was brutal. 
I got some funny stories. 

2052
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:25,920
I don't even know where to 
remember, but there was some 

2053
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,440
movie dude, let's say it'd be me
and seven other actors that kind

2054
01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:31,800
of look like me. 
You go into a room and then 

2055
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,880
there's this, the casting 
director like right there. 

2056
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,960
And then the OK Danny, you're 
next and you go in and then 

2057
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,280
they'll be like and pull a 
curtain. 

2058
01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:43,040
And so the other fucking 5 dudes
are right on the other side of 

2059
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,880
that curtain. 
And so even when you got to 

2060
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,440
listen to this fucking dude do 
his audition, it's so. 

2061
01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:48,520
Fucking dumb dude. 
Yeah. 

2062
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:52,800
It's horrible, it's horrible. 
I was so fucking taken by that 

2063
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,720
because I had, when I got there,
you know, I'm like third in 

2064
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,240
line, then I'm four and then I 
get funny, it's my turn. 

2065
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,760
And by the time I got there I've
heard three fucking dudes do it 

2066
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,920
behind this curtain, you know? 
And I'm just like what the fuck?

2067
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,240
And then I get done and then 
when I walk out, there's still 7

2068
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,200
more coming in and I look and 
everyone's all being kind of 

2069
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,680
weird and I was just looked at 
everybody. 

2070
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:18,920
I go, well, bad luck everybody. 
Yeah, one dude laughed, the 

2071
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:20,200
other dudes got their feelings 
hurt. 

2072
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:21,720
I was like how fucking funny 
dude. 

2073
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:25,400
Fuck, it was weird. 
Walk out like well, you guys 

2074
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,560
better go to a different 
audition because I just. 

2075
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,000
Yeah, I started doing that shit 
just to be funny. 

2076
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,560
I go, yeah, well, you guys never
leave or something. 

2077
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,320
And some dudes thought it was 
funny. 

2078
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,760
Some dudes are. 
So since they got hurt, yeah, 

2079
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,520
you're being mean. 
Whatever, I'm joking. 

2080
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:46,560
I'm just clowning around. 
But I suppose, man, on that 

2081
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:50,960
note, I again, I can't thank you
enough for taking the time out 

2082
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,960
of your day and coming and being
a guest on the podcast, man, it 

2083
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:55,640
it means. 
Welcome, man. 

2084
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:56,960
Thanks. 
It's awesome. 

2085
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:58,400
Awesome. 
I'm glad I have the time to do 

2086
01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:59,440
it. 
Obviously, I love to sit here 

2087
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:01,840
and talk about myself, but I can
go hang out with my daughter in 

2088
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,200
this afternoon, which is way 
rather than doing that. 

2089
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:05,120
So yes. 
Yeah. 

2090
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,400
But no, man, thanks for digging 
the movie and keeping all this 

2091
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,880
stuff alive. 
And yeah, if you're if anyone's 

2092
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:11,960
listening, I'll be in Texas and 
then I'll be in Tennessee. 

2093
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:18,320
Yeah, and I'm sorry, Kentucky, 
Lexington, KY and then I think 

2094
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,640
there's another gig in Tennessee
that's in June. 

2095
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,480
But then in next month, the 
beginning of the month, I'll be 

2096
01:37:23,480 --> 01:37:25,960
in Houston, TX with some cool 
other people. 

2097
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:27,440
Cool. 
Like, you know, like I said, 

2098
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,240
some other cool actors and and 
musicians and stuff. 

2099
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,480
Yes, but I suppose on that note,
we should probably get going 

2100
01:37:35,480 --> 01:37:37,480
because after all, there's a lot
of movies out there and 

2101
01:37:37,480 --> 01:37:39,920
somebody's got to watch them, so
why not us, right? 

2102
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,480
Heck yeah, thanks for having me.
Have a great day. 

2103
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,560
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2104
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