1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,480 Okay, so welcome back to the Predacamand. And 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,600 with me, I've got my good friend, Carnifex. How 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,740 you going, man? Yeah, pretty good. Been, 4 00:00:15,740 --> 00:00:18,220 you know, MIA for quite some time, but you're a 5 00:00:18,220 --> 00:00:19,500 very busy guy. I know that. So 6 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:23,100 thanks again for your time to come on to the podcast 7 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:26,320 to talk all about the glorious bastards we have 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,980 in our Discord. So, mate, what were the 9 00:00:29,980 --> 00:00:33,160 highlights for you, mate, this last month or so? 10 00:00:33,820 --> 00:00:35,240 It's been plenty of activity on 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,160 the Discord, lots of new members, lots of like new 12 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:44,660 nicknames popping up and people popping photos of 13 00:00:44,660 --> 00:00:48,860 like progress and completed armies and models. So 14 00:00:48,860 --> 00:00:51,700 it's been pretty cool as usual. There's 15 00:00:51,700 --> 00:00:54,700 a couple of things that I really liked in the last 16 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:56,660 sort of couple of weeks. You 17 00:00:56,660 --> 00:00:59,480 have to remember things move very quickly in the 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Discord. So you can probably like pop 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,140 in once a week and have plenty of stuff to chew 20 00:01:05,140 --> 00:01:07,060 through, which is really good. But 21 00:01:07,060 --> 00:01:11,160 you know, it'll keep you entertained. One 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,000 thing I want to mention is Clem showed off a board 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,360 that him and his friends are playing a fantasy game 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,120 on. And it's a very simple fantasy 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,560 board. So it's probably got like a 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,640 neoprene mat underneath it. And 27 00:01:26,648 --> 00:01:30,480 then to peg out a fantasy farm setting, they use a 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:36,720 variety of like hobby hedges and trees, but then 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,880 also to represent sort of like different agricultural 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,940 farms, something that a lot of people have probably 31 00:01:42,940 --> 00:01:46,360 seen before is use different materials. So 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,800 maybe some tufted like carpet squares to represent 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,600 wheat, maybe tilled soil is just like a piece of felt, 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,880 a brillo pad or something similar to represent some 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,620 sort of greens or turnips or whatever. It's 36 00:02:02,620 --> 00:02:05,140 very, very cool. So as far as fantasy boards 37 00:02:05,140 --> 00:02:08,039 go, they're generally very sparse with terrain, but 38 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:11,760 this one is really clogged down with hedges and like 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,160 fences and like sort of pillars and things like 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,780 that. And little hills. So 41 00:02:18,788 --> 00:02:21,060 it was very cool to see something like that, Clem. 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,780 She is always updating us on 43 00:02:23,780 --> 00:02:26,840 how your warband is doing. Paul 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,800 Clem the merciless, hopefully he gets a win 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,360 in. Yeah, I liked his dwarf army 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,000 that he's working on for the Call of the Crown 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,020 challenge, I think it is. And 48 00:02:36,020 --> 00:02:39,620 his own miniatures sculpted by the very hands of Kev 49 00:02:39,620 --> 00:02:43,280 Adams at the latest of last years. Bring 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,880 out your lead. So it's got his face kind of 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,140 thing on it. It's pretty awesome. I 52 00:02:47,140 --> 00:02:50,600 really like those, those little touches there that, 53 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:54,920 you know, personalize people's armies and sculpted 54 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:58,460 by the legendary golem master himself. So 55 00:02:58,460 --> 00:03:02,800 he's got kind of like a goblin dwarf hybrid head on 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,060 the Clem the merciless. One of his slam models. It's 57 00:03:06,060 --> 00:03:07,820 pretty cool. But yeah, mate, there's so many 58 00:03:07,820 --> 00:03:09,880 good things going on. And like you say, this it's 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,440 always happening very quickly. Got 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,940 Andrew, that's candle kettle trout with his amazing 61 00:03:15,940 --> 00:03:20,680 style and old hammer looking, you know, Orton 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,740 goblin and for me looking miniatures and banners that 63 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:27,180 he does and the handmade shields and stuff like 64 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:28,820 that. So there's a lot of creativity 65 00:03:28,820 --> 00:03:32,220 and innovation with within the group as well, which 66 00:03:32,220 --> 00:03:34,160 is really cool to see. Yeah, 67 00:03:34,220 --> 00:03:36,260 he did some sketches of for me though, really 68 00:03:36,260 --> 00:03:38,640 impressive. Yeah, they're really great. So 69 00:03:38,648 --> 00:03:42,060 it's not just like the top tier painters in our group. 70 00:03:42,220 --> 00:03:43,480 It's everybody. You 71 00:03:43,488 --> 00:03:45,860 know, so a lot of people are putting in a lot of 72 00:03:45,860 --> 00:03:49,560 hard work and dedication to making their armies as 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,680 beautiful and as presentable for the tabletop as 74 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,620 possible. So yeah, I mean, you know, 75 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,960 it's just filled with lots of inspiration, which is 76 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,400 the greatest thing are looking at moshers. Also 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,700 his freshly painted Bretonians and looks like 78 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:06,400 he's doing the full tilt scenario with the little 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,340 tents and everything and the whole sort of setup 80 00:04:10,340 --> 00:04:12,820 he's made, which I've just noticed now, which is 81 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:15,280 really, really nice. So yeah, there's so much stuff 82 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,380 on there that you tend to miss it if unless you 83 00:04:17,380 --> 00:04:19,540 scroll back up and check out what people have been 84 00:04:19,540 --> 00:04:21,720 doing and how active they've been in the 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,020 community lately. So it's always great to see 86 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:27,480 very refreshing. Yeah, there's been some cool 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,640 stuff from the like the newer members like the 88 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,180 Grognard or Brian he's been doing some cool ruins and 89 00:04:35,180 --> 00:04:39,020 using like putty and things like that to make those 90 00:04:39,020 --> 00:04:42,080 classic ruins you would have seen in White Dwarf 91 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,780 40k with like pipes coming out of them and stuff like 92 00:04:44,780 --> 00:04:46,380 that. Really like that. Kim 93 00:04:46,380 --> 00:04:50,680 Nix is a bit of a deft hand at green stuff 94 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,240 sculpting and she's done like a little 15 millimeter 95 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,680 sci -fi guy, which is amazingly detailed for 15 96 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,160 millimeter and then working on some sort of like, I 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,220 don't know, maybe frog or sland man with a spear. 98 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,140 It's very, very cool to see. So 99 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:09,380 that's just in the modeling workshop section. I 100 00:05:09,380 --> 00:05:11,700 really recommend you guys check that out and 101 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:14,060 especially if you're looking for inspiration on what 102 00:05:14,060 --> 00:05:17,220 sort of terrain to make. Obviously, 103 00:05:17,380 --> 00:05:20,040 I'm biased and I really like 40k and I have to 104 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:25,099 mention Jamie was showing off some original golf orc 105 00:05:26,180 --> 00:05:30,140 plastics from the second ed 40k box set and it's gone 106 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:32,900 to a lot of effort to like paint on symbols and 107 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:35,820 stuff like that on the back of those golf orc 108 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:41,520 boys and for me for a cheap model that you got 109 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,140 in the base set they've got a lot of detail on 110 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:48,020 them and then because they're orcs you have the 111 00:05:48,020 --> 00:05:50,680 option to go really, really wild and put checker marks 112 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,100 and a little glyphs and stuff like that on them. 113 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:55,380 So some people get really, 114 00:05:55,380 --> 00:05:57,360 really out of control with the amount of detail they 115 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,080 put on them. It's always fantastic to see. 116 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,680 I'll also mention Jean Steelecult 117 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,720 has been sort of something that a lot of people have 118 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,460 been kicking around lately. So 119 00:06:07,460 --> 00:06:10,320 you've got Moody doing them in the Cowabunga challenge 120 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,660 and you'll see images of those on the discord, which 121 00:06:14,660 --> 00:06:18,420 is really, really cool. And then people like Tsuno also 122 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:23,780 showing off their Colt limo and Magus sort of like 123 00:06:23,780 --> 00:06:27,160 brings a purple tinge tier to my eye to see so much 124 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,660 Jean Steelecult going on in the discord. Very 125 00:06:29,660 --> 00:06:32,200 nice guys. Yep, nice and really cool stuff. 126 00:06:32,420 --> 00:06:34,040 I think the call of the 127 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,060 crown is wrapped up after a six month challenge. So 128 00:06:38,060 --> 00:06:41,320 congratulations to everybody who's contributed and who's 129 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,620 worked their butt off to produce some pretty amazing 130 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:49,080 work. So I think commendations go to 131 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,820 like old man, old hammer mad, Bry, another Aussie 132 00:06:53,820 --> 00:06:56,900 compatriot who's done this wonderful looking beastman 133 00:06:56,900 --> 00:07:01,220 army and then photographed it on, you know, with an 134 00:07:01,220 --> 00:07:04,920 amazing background and, you know, trees and beautiful 135 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,760 scenic kind of display here that's showing off his 136 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,080 fifth edition, it's like a fifth edition beastman army, 137 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,800 which is really, really cool. David 138 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,460 M with his really nice looking dark elf force as 139 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:21,480 well. He's actually got a YouTube 140 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,200 channel called fifth ed. So you can check out his 141 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,360 hobby progress and vlogs on there as well on YouTube. 142 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,980 And he's just uploaded uploaded 143 00:07:29,980 --> 00:07:33,040 his first battle report, which is basically like a 144 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,600 six edition skirmish with dark, I think dark elves 145 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,300 and empire. There's loads inspiration. Matthias 146 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:42,820 as well with his dark elves that he's working on. 147 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:44,480 And you can just scroll up and 148 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,740 keep going through and just, you know, in awe of, 149 00:07:46,740 --> 00:07:48,980 you know, the amount of work that's been poured 150 00:07:48,980 --> 00:07:51,600 into these armies and all these old models and stuff, 151 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:53,760 which is really, really amazing. Yeah, 152 00:07:53,780 --> 00:07:57,360 some of my favorite dark elf staff has been from, I 153 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,140 hope I'm saying this correctly, I like how now 154 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,240 that's a person with the avatar of a looks like 155 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,340 Shiva Inu in a cage. But they've been doing these 156 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:14,220 like fantastic dark elves with like really pallid 157 00:08:14,220 --> 00:08:17,060 skin with a purple tinge to them. Yes, 158 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,140 lots of details on the face and the armor 159 00:08:19,140 --> 00:08:22,500 obviously really, really impressive. Ted 160 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:26,560 as well. That's odd gets hot Ted. Really 161 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,360 big. Looks like a skink and well, 162 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,159 it's a Elizabethan force, but yeah, lots of great 163 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:34,980 color. And I think he's got people, 164 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:38,080 you know, sort of transfixed on these plants 165 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,960 that he uses. They're like, oh yeah, jungle, 166 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,580 jungle plants, like terrain plants. Yeah, 167 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:45,120 yeah. So he's really got a nice 168 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,680 thematic board there to represent his Lisbon on, 169 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:50,540 which is really cool to see. But 170 00:08:50,540 --> 00:08:53,980 yeah, I also like that particular painter's style 171 00:08:53,980 --> 00:08:56,140 for his dark elves as well. I 172 00:08:56,140 --> 00:08:59,140 think that's a really nice dark style that's very 173 00:08:59,140 --> 00:09:01,780 atmospheric. And there's a few people like 174 00:09:01,780 --> 00:09:05,620 that as well. I think Wraith Wisp is 175 00:09:05,620 --> 00:09:07,280 another one of my favorites. He 176 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,940 does also this sort of very dark atmospheric style 177 00:09:10,940 --> 00:09:14,100 and photography on his miniatures. There's 178 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:16,860 a voice trend that's Ryan who's done a death skull 179 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:18,980 squadron. It looks absolutely stunning. 180 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:19,980 Really nice. They're 181 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:22,680 really cool. Yeah, great non -metallic medals 182 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:26,000 on them. And we've got the Phoenician, 183 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,760 that's Jimmy doing 15 millimeter terrain for his 184 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,860 40 K second edition games he's playing in Sweden, 185 00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:32,840 which is really cool to see. Very 186 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,120 cute. And Highland Painting is always 187 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,800 knocking it out the park and it's also Ben whisking 188 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,780 wizards. And you know, you can just you 189 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:42,760 can just ramble off, you know, name after name after 190 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,420 name of really great inspirational painters out 191 00:09:45,420 --> 00:09:49,400 there. You know, so yeah, look, you 192 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,360 know, look, if you're not part of a discord, I'd 193 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,120 urge you to come in and check it out. At 194 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,600 least, you know, it's free. You 195 00:09:54,608 --> 00:09:56,740 can just jump in and and if it's not for you, you 196 00:09:56,748 --> 00:09:58,400 can jump out. That's no problem. But 197 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,400 yeah, it's it's a really cool place to hang out and 198 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,640 be inspired by people and our hobby. Now, 199 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:09,740 also today's guests are also two glorious people 200 00:10:09,740 --> 00:10:13,320 from Bavarian Germany. And they are part of the 201 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,620 Dicehammer YouTube channel. And 202 00:10:15,620 --> 00:10:18,520 I know Khanifex is one of their subscribers and fans 203 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,940 of their content. So Khanifex, how would you sum 204 00:10:20,940 --> 00:10:24,700 up the Dicehammer's channel to German guys in shorts, 205 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:29,600 play games in their basement and drink beer? 206 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,700 I'm actually drinking a German 207 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:37,860 beer now that I'm sure if I say try to pronounce it, 208 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,380 like a lot of people will giggle. So 209 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:42,040 it's something like Schofferhoffer. I 210 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,320 don't know. It's a Heffwies, some sort of 211 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,700 like beer. Nice. Yeah, some sort of wheat 212 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:50,180 beer. It's fantastic. I'm 213 00:10:50,180 --> 00:10:52,700 gonna love it better than Australian beer for that. 214 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Well, anything that's better than 215 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,060 Australian beer, actually, to be honest, mate. Yeah, 216 00:10:56,060 --> 00:11:00,280 really truthful. Exactly. And like these guys, they 217 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,680 play a real like big variety of games. But 218 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:05,360 obviously, as I mentioned before, I'm biased. I 219 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,840 love the 40k second ed stuff. They 220 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,460 do everything from tiny little skirmish games, which 221 00:11:10,468 --> 00:11:13,480 are actually pretty exciting because they can go either 222 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,300 way with some bad dice rolls. They've 223 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:19,200 played campaigns like proper campaigns, like the like 224 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,380 dark vengeance between the Dark Angels and the Orcs, 225 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,000 which is really crazy. They've 226 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,160 done their own campaign where like a randomly like 227 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,060 a war portal appears on the board and you've got 228 00:11:29,060 --> 00:11:31,480 to like rush towards and essentially take and hold 229 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,880 it like Codex Wars and things like that. Variety 230 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,460 of terrain, everything from like snow and like sort of 231 00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:41,540 more traditional like cardboard fortresses that 232 00:11:41,540 --> 00:11:42,960 you would have got in White Dwarf. So 233 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,020 always happy to see it. And 234 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:49,180 you know, I bug everyone who does a second ed 235 00:11:50,060 --> 00:11:53,680 battle report on YouTube by constantly like mentioning 236 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:55,880 rules that they've stuffed up and things like that. 237 00:11:56,380 --> 00:11:58,420 I'm like a real irritant to 238 00:11:58,420 --> 00:12:00,920 people. So but these these guys do 239 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,080 really well, really enjoy it. And 240 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,060 I love their style. Yeah, now the great guys, I 241 00:12:06,060 --> 00:12:08,460 really had a great talk with them today in this in 242 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:10,480 this interview. So I hope you guys enjoy it. 243 00:12:11,620 --> 00:12:14,240 So yeah, and please I urge 244 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,920 you to go and check out their YouTube channel, go 245 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,460 and check out their content. Yeah, 246 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,880 well, look, what keeps us all going is people like 247 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,520 Dysama who make content for us that we can view and 248 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,740 enjoy it's like sit back and enjoy when we've got 249 00:12:26,740 --> 00:12:28,860 spare time. So thanks for all the content 250 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:30,880 creators. Thanks to all the people in the 251 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,960 discord who even just show us dub work in progress 252 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,980 picks like it doesn't matter what it is or if 253 00:12:36,980 --> 00:12:39,460 you don't think it's great, we want to see it because 254 00:12:39,460 --> 00:12:41,720 someone will like it. Yep, absolutely. We 255 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,300 should do more of a community spotlight on 256 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:47,080 someone out there and other glorious bastard out there 257 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,520 in the community doing some pretty awesome work, either 258 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,380 as a YouTuber, podcaster, just an individual just 259 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:54,380 doing some really awesome stuff inspiring other 260 00:12:54,380 --> 00:12:57,400 people. Maybe a bloke called cutter who 261 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,700 seems to have a huge Auckland goblins army. Oh, 262 00:13:01,700 --> 00:13:03,760 really? Okay. Well, there you go. Okay, 263 00:13:03,820 --> 00:13:07,180 we'll have to, we'll have to, yeah, highlight his 264 00:13:07,180 --> 00:13:10,060 stuff at some point during one of our next live 265 00:13:10,060 --> 00:13:11,960 streams. Please check out the live stream 266 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,520 we did last weekend, which was really fun. It 267 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,400 was me, GM Cody and Kent fury talking all about 40k 268 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,740 second edition coming back into it how to get into 269 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:25,500 it. If you're new to second 270 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:28,160 edition 40k, and if you had played in the 90s and 271 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,440 you're wanting to get back into it, how it what would 272 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,300 be the best way. So we try to give you the 273 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:35,200 best tips and advice as we can. And 274 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,780 then we talk about the B dab system at the end. So 275 00:13:38,780 --> 00:13:41,080 if you haven't seen it, go check out that on my 276 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,520 YouTube channel that crown of command games in the 277 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,000 live section. But if you did you catch the 278 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,760 interview, don't make you did you listen to it? I 279 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,360 did. And I think that the the main 280 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,220 message of that whole stream is don't be a dick. 281 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,940 I think it's really good 282 00:13:57,940 --> 00:14:00,560 times. Yeah. Yeah, it was really good. 283 00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:02,120 Yeah, I really enjoyed that. It 284 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,720 was fun. So it was great. And 285 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,240 I'm glad that Kent got to to, yeah, just get that 286 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,620 off his chest. You know, some some things has 287 00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:13,700 been building up over time about the second really 288 00:14:13,700 --> 00:14:16,240 funny. I won't mention specifics, but 289 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,320 he does mention like some very dirty tactics someone 290 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,980 used and straight away on the second ed Facebook 291 00:14:21,980 --> 00:14:25,080 group, there was discussions about what had happened and 292 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,440 if he can even do that. So 293 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,140 it's very funny. Yeah, it's good that it's this 294 00:14:30,140 --> 00:14:32,420 controversial topic has brought a lot of people 295 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:36,180 out and you know, people just voicing their opinions, 296 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:39,860 you know, either either in either for or against the 297 00:14:39,860 --> 00:14:42,720 D bad system. So it's it's it's got not 298 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,260 divided the community, but it certainly made it a 299 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:47,320 little bit more controversial and people are 300 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,680 being very opinionated about how they feel about it. So 301 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,160 that's good. It's good to have a bit of 302 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,940 discussion about that and and what they think. But 303 00:14:54,940 --> 00:14:56,860 it's just, you know, like I said, it's just, you 304 00:14:56,860 --> 00:15:01,340 know, Kent's tournament structure that he uses and 305 00:15:01,340 --> 00:15:04,340 his club at Newcastle legions for his games that 306 00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:07,860 he organizes. So then if you wanted to play 307 00:15:07,860 --> 00:15:10,900 just pure second edition with all the, you know, 308 00:15:10,980 --> 00:15:12,820 warts and all, then go for it. But 309 00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:14,560 if you want to play something that's alternative 310 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,320 and try something new, then it's not such a big 311 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,240 diversion from the original game anyway. It's 312 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,900 just a few streamlined little set rules that allow 313 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,020 more friendly, friendly lists basically and more 314 00:15:28,020 --> 00:15:29,760 tactical play. I think that's what that what 315 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,340 he's trying to emphasize there after being a long, 316 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,460 long term player of second edition 40k. I 317 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:39,060 would highly recommend you give it a whirl. Yeah. 318 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,260 So links for that D -Bad system can be found in the 319 00:15:42,260 --> 00:15:45,320 second edition Facebook group. And 320 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,160 so I'll leave a link here in the show notes for the 321 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,640 podcast, if you want to check that out. And 322 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,940 yeah, and again, you're going to check out the the 323 00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:55,420 live stream from the man himself. He 324 00:15:55,420 --> 00:15:57,420 won't hold back. And that's what I like about 325 00:15:57,420 --> 00:15:58,700 Kent. I respect him totally for 326 00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:00,460 that. He doesn't care. He 327 00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:03,220 doesn't care who is going to offend or, you know, 328 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,540 who's going upset. He's just going to let it out 329 00:16:05,540 --> 00:16:07,460 and say how he feels. That's 330 00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:08,940 great. That's that's the Aussie spirit. 331 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,000 That's what I love about Aussies. 332 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,660 Very. Okay, man. All 333 00:16:12,660 --> 00:16:13,940 right. Well, look, I won't hold Japanese 334 00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:15,880 longer kind of exon. They need to get to bed, mate, 335 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,420 before you need to work tomorrow. So 336 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:22,380 until the next time, my friend, stay safe and enjoy 337 00:16:22,380 --> 00:16:24,480 your second. And it's good to see you 338 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,060 playing the the the Jean Seller Colt too recently as 339 00:16:27,060 --> 00:16:30,000 well. Yeah. Yeah, manage scraped scrape 340 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,480 to win. Very lucky. Could 341 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,120 have could have been completely obliterated by 342 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,660 orcs. You got to be careful. They've 343 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:39,820 got all vicious five hour. Well, 344 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,940 I can't wait to play you in person with my walks at 345 00:16:42,940 --> 00:16:45,040 some point against your chance to the Colt. That'd 346 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,800 be a lot of fun. Until then, mate, take it easy 347 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,180 and I'll catch you again next time. Yep, 348 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:58,020 I'll see you around. Thank you so much again for 349 00:16:58,020 --> 00:16:59,860 coming to the Chronic Command. Thanks 350 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:02,640 for being invited. Oh, my pleasure. My 351 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,420 pleasure, guys. So you're the men behind the 352 00:17:06,849 --> 00:17:09,880 the Dicehammer podcast, Dicehammer YouTube channel, 353 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,160 sorry. And you both are from Bavaria, 354 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,200 is that right? Yeah, exactly. Right, 355 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:16,900 great. Okay. And I think it's a 356 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:19,280 wonderful story that you started off playing 357 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,359 Warhammer 40 ,000 second edition when you were 358 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,300 young, and you've come back to play it again later in 359 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:29,620 life. So I really wanted to get you 360 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:31,600 on to talk about your hobby history. I 361 00:17:31,608 --> 00:17:34,340 mean, how did you get into gaming and tabletop 362 00:17:34,340 --> 00:17:36,500 miniatures and that kind of thing? Marcus, 363 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,400 would you like to start us off? Yeah, 364 00:17:38,820 --> 00:17:42,640 to be honest, we didn't come back to Warhammer 40k 365 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,620 second edition. We've been playing it for the 366 00:17:45,620 --> 00:17:48,460 last 30 years. Really? Wow. Okay. 367 00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:52,020 Whenever we entered a games workshop and talked to the 368 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:57,040 staff, they told us, well, the present edition is the 369 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,880 one which is closest to the old second edition one, 370 00:18:00,140 --> 00:18:02,400 just right out and buy some stuff and stuff like 371 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,280 that. But we never played another 372 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,540 edition. It was a lifelong bond with 373 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:14,200 the product. I was into fantasy and 374 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,380 science fiction. And one day at the age of, 375 00:18:17,420 --> 00:18:22,360 let's say, maybe 15, I bought a box of a Star 376 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:26,900 Quest, which was the German edition of Space Crusade, I 377 00:18:26,900 --> 00:18:30,780 think. And I bought the add -ons, the 378 00:18:30,780 --> 00:18:35,000 expansion sets. And then somebody told me this 379 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,340 was just part of a complete universe of a game 380 00:18:39,340 --> 00:18:43,340 of its own, which was sold in Britain. And 381 00:18:43,340 --> 00:18:50,300 then about one year later, my parents wanted me to do 382 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:53,800 a youth exchange. And I went to Britain for 383 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,360 three weeks. And during my time there, I 384 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:59,960 found the first games workshop and I was really 385 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:03,580 fascinated. And it was then the lifelong 386 00:19:03,580 --> 00:19:07,040 bond with their products. And 387 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,680 I never wanted to do or buy anything as... I 388 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,640 still remember the first blisters. I 389 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,540 bought the Chaos Terminator Captain, the one with the 390 00:19:16,540 --> 00:19:19,900 huge sword back then, the blister of warp spiders, 391 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:24,600 and a deathwing Terminator Squad and a box of 392 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,300 tactical plastic space marines. Because 393 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:32,180 back then, I thought these were just kind of 394 00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:36,880 additional forces for my copy of Star Quest. And 395 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,320 it was really exciting because I also, during the 396 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,720 three weeks in our guest family, there were two 397 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,940 trips to London. And during these two trips, I 398 00:19:47,940 --> 00:19:52,600 spent the whole day looking for books on 1 .40K. And 399 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,520 somebody told me back then, you didn't have mobile 400 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,280 phones and stuff like that, that there was a second 401 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,840 hand bookshop in a completely other district of 402 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,280 London where I might get them. So 403 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,840 I spent several hours on the tube asking people for 404 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,700 directions and stuff like that. And 405 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:10,840 when I arrived there, I really got a copy of Space 406 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,080 Marine and Deathwing. Oh, wow, nice. Fantastic, 407 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,900 mate. That's great. And 408 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:20,140 do you both live close to each other in your 409 00:20:20,140 --> 00:20:23,900 hometown? And now it has, yes. Of 410 00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:26,460 course, not the last 30 years. When 411 00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:29,480 we were pupils back then, of course, we live in the 412 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,080 same town, but we started our study in the same city 413 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,680 as well. But after that, I think I 414 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,300 moved to other towns in Marcus as well. But 415 00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:47,400 I think now, the last five to 10 years, we are both 416 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,740 living in the same town once again. Oh, 417 00:20:49,780 --> 00:20:51,500 right. You've been reunited. So 418 00:20:51,508 --> 00:20:54,700 Alex, do you have a very similar story to Marcus in 419 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:57,520 terms of finding Games Workshop games with Star 420 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,660 Quest? No, to be honest, not. I 421 00:21:02,660 --> 00:21:07,820 came first in contact with Games Workshop products in 422 00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:12,520 my school time. And at a young I played some 423 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,180 kind of role play. I actually don't know if the 424 00:21:16,180 --> 00:21:20,620 system is now known outside of Germany because it's 425 00:21:20,620 --> 00:21:23,840 called Das Schwarze Auge, the Black Eye. And 426 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:29,280 it's a German company which produced the game. And 427 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:35,160 I'm coming from the role play community. And 428 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:42,060 I think I was about 15, 16 when a friend of mine 429 00:21:42,780 --> 00:21:46,820 brought some Citadel catalogs back in school. 430 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,020 And we scrolled them beneath 431 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:51,880 the table during the lessons. And 432 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,860 there I saw the first time Space Marines and Elder and 433 00:21:57,860 --> 00:22:02,780 stuff like that. And then this was a group, I 434 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:05,280 think, of three or four people, including Marcus. 435 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:07,840 And then we really started 436 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,480 getting into the game. Excellent. 437 00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:11,460 And 30 years later, you're still playing it. It's 438 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:15,240 amazing. To be honest, it was a really 439 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:20,980 period of time between or within these 30 years where 440 00:22:20,980 --> 00:22:23,460 we didn't actually play that much. But 441 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:32,020 we still kind of spent a lot of time painting stuff, 442 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:36,480 especially Alex. I stopped for about took 20 443 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,860 years off painting, but still we're into 40k or 444 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:44,620 the universe, read lots of books, bought stuff, even 445 00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:47,800 newer stuff. And then and played a lot of 446 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,880 computer games. Yeah, exactly. Dawn 447 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,060 of War. I didn't know exactly it was 448 00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:58,320 some kind of Hacks based game. I 449 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,620 think it was elder against the Imperial Guard. Not 450 00:23:02,620 --> 00:23:06,300 final liberation. I can't remember the exact 451 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:08,520 name, but we played really a lot of computer games 452 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:15,160 focused on the GW. Was it rights of war? Yeah, 453 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,400 rights of war. Maybe you heard of it. I 454 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,120 heard about final liberation. Final 455 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:23,080 liberation. It was some kind of epic 456 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,820 based computer game. And we even started playing 457 00:23:28,679 --> 00:23:30,380 Warhammer Fantasy back then. I 458 00:23:30,388 --> 00:23:32,860 think it was the fifth edition. It 459 00:23:32,860 --> 00:23:38,640 was the box game with the Pritonians and Lizardmen or 460 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:45,180 Scaven on the title. But I started with Orcs and 461 00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:48,060 Goblins and Marcus with Wood Elves. And 462 00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:51,200 we bought a lot of Hacks then and went to a 463 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,000 convention and played our first game there. And 464 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,700 there were about 10 to 12 people at the table and 465 00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:02,740 everything. Everyone was talking to us. I 466 00:24:02,740 --> 00:24:08,780 have to move there. It was so frightening almost 467 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:12,420 that we never played Fantasy from this point on. 468 00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:14,740 So we put our armies in the 469 00:24:14,740 --> 00:24:21,220 cupboard and just discovered them maybe three to four 470 00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:24,260 years ago. It was kind of really 471 00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:27,180 disappointing and frustrating because we were advised by 472 00:24:27,180 --> 00:24:30,760 12 year olds. We hadn't read the rules 473 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,120 properly. So we tried a mixture of what 474 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:37,280 we thought the Fantasy rules really were and 475 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,300 Warhammer 40K rules. So it ended up in a complete 476 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:45,120 mess. And I I boxed my Wood Elves 477 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,560 for about at least 20 years. But 478 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,460 luckily I didn't sell them because right now it would 479 00:24:51,460 --> 00:24:53,340 be difficult to get to them. These 480 00:24:53,340 --> 00:24:55,800 beautiful old ones back. And 481 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:08,460 you have sold my Orcs and and again and about five 482 00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:13,040 years ago you told me you'd sold the Magic Box 483 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,140 because we don't play it at all. We 484 00:25:15,148 --> 00:25:17,140 didn't play it. Back in the fifth edition there 485 00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:21,360 was this red colored Magic Warhammer Magic Box of the 486 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:25,440 Fantasy universe. And I sold it back five years 487 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840 ago. And then I sold the main box. 488 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:30,640 And about three years ago Alex 489 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,540 said it would be a great idea to get back into one 490 00:25:35,540 --> 00:25:39,640 of Fantasy because many people sold the completely 491 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,460 wonderfully painted armies because the eighth edition 492 00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:46,420 was the last edition supported by against 493 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:50,379 Workshop because they replaced it with AOS. And 494 00:25:50,379 --> 00:25:52,980 I think it was a good time to get back into it 495 00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:58,460 because there were lots of stuff which you could get 496 00:25:58,460 --> 00:26:02,900 really cheap five years ago about. And 497 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:06,300 I have to admit the idea that there's a final 498 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:10,060 edition and you won't have to buy the next add -on 499 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:12,520 and add -on and the next version and edition of rule 500 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,580 books really appealed to me. So 501 00:26:14,580 --> 00:26:19,600 I said okay let's do some test games. And 502 00:26:19,608 --> 00:26:22,600 it took us quite a long time. We 503 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,540 were really grateful for every eighth edition video 504 00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:29,480 which could be found on the internet by then 505 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,620 because when we started we had to read page by page 506 00:26:34,420 --> 00:26:37,340 in order to get at least the rules for our first 507 00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:40,020 two armies. You came back with the vampire 508 00:26:40,020 --> 00:26:43,200 counts. I still had my wood elves 509 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,020 and then it was still a lot of time for the basic 510 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:49,280 rules and the army rules. And 511 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,480 even now we do lots of mistakes. That's 512 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,100 excellent guys. I'm really glad you found your 513 00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:00,160 love for fantasy again after all these years. And 514 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,000 you gave it another shot. And 515 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,280 I know you played eighth edition on your channel. 516 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,660 Any chance of you playing any 517 00:27:06,660 --> 00:27:09,320 of the early editions like fifth edition going back to 518 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:15,300 the old Horten version? We would like to do so but 519 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:19,120 at the moment we are still struggling to get the 520 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,780 eighth edition stuff done correctly. I 521 00:27:22,780 --> 00:27:25,340 think we would need a kind of gaming group. 522 00:27:26,380 --> 00:27:29,820 Unfortunately our old one has split up 523 00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:34,900 after school because the four to five of us went 524 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:38,100 to two completely different places. One 525 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:44,040 of us our first orc player went to Great Britain, went 526 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,280 to Scotland, then to London and now I think it's back 527 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,680 to Scotland. And maybe if we meet others 528 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,640 once we've been invited we were invited to a kind of 529 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,840 tournament near Ehrlangen -Hüchstädt, was it? About 530 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,520 100 kilometers from our current position. And 531 00:28:05,528 --> 00:28:08,860 then it's really a great atmosphere if you've got 532 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:13,700 four or five or even eight other players who can give 533 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:17,120 you a piece of advice and no older stuff or stuff we 534 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:21,240 did wrong. In such these circumstances I 535 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,260 think we'd be grateful to try out older editions. 536 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,660 Wonderful. I hope that's the case 537 00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:29,960 because yeah I love all your second edition content 538 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,400 especially. Now as you said you've never 539 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,180 stopped playing second edition for all these years 540 00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:38,000 but you sort of took a dip and you still stopped 541 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,500 playing for a while. But I did notice you have a 542 00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,820 lot of untacted miniatures in your in your in your 543 00:28:42,820 --> 00:28:45,400 videos. Famously so. Not 544 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,440 notes of them. Alex I'm rather lazy. During 545 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,160 the time we didn't actually play it was because both 546 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,260 of us had smaller apartments. We 547 00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:01,400 were in the same town but we didn't have kind of 548 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,460 room to put up table tennis set or stuff like 549 00:29:04,460 --> 00:29:07,840 that. And during this time Alex kept 550 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,320 on painting and painting and painting and even did 551 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,340 some kind of professional painting watching videos on 552 00:29:14,340 --> 00:29:17,820 painting buying lots of of colors and trying new 553 00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:21,680 techniques techniques and stuff like that. I 554 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,900 didn't paint anything and so there were truckloads of 555 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:31,760 older minis and when I started I was a really I 556 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,260 was a keen painter and everything had to be 557 00:29:35,260 --> 00:29:40,180 exactly the rate of the eye in the eye and not on 558 00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:41,780 the cheek or stuff like that. So 559 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:45,040 even back then it took me at least one week to do 560 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,720 model properly. One I've kept some of my old 561 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,420 models the inquisitor and the predecessor were among 562 00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:55,260 the first of them. I gave some of them to Alex 563 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:58,660 because I had blood anches back then one of my first 564 00:29:58,660 --> 00:30:03,220 armies. And now having come back after 565 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:07,520 20 years of this gap I'm still the same kind of 566 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,620 painting guy. I could move on quite faster 567 00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:13,480 but I said no let's come back oh there's still I 568 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,860 have to recolorate and I don't like this tone. I 569 00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:21,220 think I'll redo it and stuff like that. And 570 00:30:21,220 --> 00:30:26,060 so I have asked for help and found the first one it 571 00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:30,980 was an ad on Facebook and I've even phoned this guy 572 00:30:30,980 --> 00:30:35,900 he was very very nice but was honest and told me I 573 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:40,780 do kind of different stuff and different games. I 574 00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:45,260 wouldn't like to get into your kind of stuff and so 575 00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:48,940 I kept looking and I found somebody closer to us who's 576 00:30:48,940 --> 00:30:53,560 from Munich and I phoned its public and I phoned 577 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:59,640 him and I think he's a one man company and he was 578 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,880 really great. I showed him some pictures 579 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,040 and then sent my stuff to him and these are the Orcs 580 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,860 because Orcs are an army you need many more than 581 00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:15,780 five models and despite all my efforts because I've 582 00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:19,180 been painting Orcs for the last nearly 12 months I've 583 00:31:19,180 --> 00:31:22,100 only got about 15 models completed. So 584 00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:26,060 I sent about 30 of them including two vehicles to 585 00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:30,140 Patrick and within less than a week he's already 586 00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:33,660 got pictures of the painted menace on his homepage and 587 00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:38,200 the parcel is in transit is being delivered back to 588 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,520 me right now I've already seen pictures it's great. I 589 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,180 think this painting partnership will help us to 590 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:48,820 get at least as you might know we've got some 591 00:31:48,820 --> 00:31:53,940 standard lists of 1000 points 15 -2000 for our 592 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:57,380 fantasy and second edition stuff and this should help 593 00:31:57,380 --> 00:32:01,120 me to get at least the small army blocks for fast 594 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,080 games during maybe even under the week or at the 595 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,860 week and ready. Yeah I really enjoyed your 596 00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:09,440 tournament like a tournament series you did like very 597 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,820 small games facing like you did almost like a lottery 598 00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:16,600 where you'd have all the different lists and I think 599 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,740 that was some of your very first videos I really 600 00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:24,260 enjoyed that initial series you did and I think it's 601 00:32:24,260 --> 00:32:27,040 right to say that you have every single army for 602 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,040 second edition. I suppose so as even Marcus 603 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,860 it even got the old squads which are really really 604 00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:36,180 nice miniatures I like them really a lot but 605 00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:39,020 unfortunately I think it's the army which is 606 00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:42,260 completely unpainted or is there some maybe one two 607 00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:47,100 miniatures that is painted but I think it's quite 608 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,440 difficult especially these squads because they're so 609 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,180 small and our eyes are getting worse and worse 610 00:32:53,180 --> 00:33:00,080 every year so it gets every time more difficult 611 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,780 to paint the miniatures but the squads is a really 612 00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:08,600 cool army and even when I got back then I bought the 613 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,380 old Necron warriors and I've got three of the old 614 00:33:12,380 --> 00:33:15,320 destroyers and the scarabs and but the Necrons are 615 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,120 really easy to paint in my opinion I just primed them 616 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,260 in black and then tried crushed them with some 617 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:24,880 metallics and here and there are some dots of 618 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,240 maybe blue or red and it's finished have you actually 619 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,760 finished but yes you're right we all yeah you're 620 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,980 right but we have I think almost every army now yeah 621 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:40,120 in our asset have you actually finished painting 622 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,400 the Necron army Alex have you finished painting 623 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,300 completely a one destroyer is there to paint oh 624 00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:49,840 that's good three scarabs great like are you making 625 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,440 some good progress then that's great fantastic but 626 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,580 at the moment I'm painting five raith guards of the 627 00:33:57,580 --> 00:34:02,420 elder because in our 2000 points army list I think 628 00:34:02,420 --> 00:34:05,000 there's a squad of five raith guard that's my 629 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,480 actual project and we might need them for our great 630 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,100 maybe it's really the final one good versus evil elder 631 00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:19,820 versus chaos cult is a kind of series we haven't 632 00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:23,980 created a playlist of its own yet but there have 633 00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:27,880 already been several minor battles against the sisters 634 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,760 of battle in peregaard inquisition dog angels and 635 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,840 last time yeah one of them still survived the magus 636 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,139 magus and the blood thirst I think so we'd like to 637 00:34:40,139 --> 00:34:45,060 do a really large final maybe 2500 or maybe even 638 00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:48,659 3000 points of chaos cultists or maybe even 639 00:34:48,659 --> 00:34:52,980 demons against the elder wow that was a huge game 640 00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:57,000 yeah yeah particularly like the the cauldron of blood 641 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,480 you have for your chaos army I think it's a it's 642 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:05,260 a armor cast model yeah I really like those yeah 643 00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:10,000 they're great it was gifted to me by market I think I 644 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,120 think he gifted it me almost 10 years ago or 15 645 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,540 years ago to some birthday and it's a really cool 646 00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:23,020 model and and we really had a lot of armor cast 647 00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:28,180 stuff because we began to yeah to buy the first ones 648 00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:35,000 of them it was yeah around 2002 nobody liked to play 649 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,860 them because they weren't real official games workshop 650 00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:41,440 products and then I sold the first orc tanks later 651 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,860 on I bought some stompers elix bought two or three 652 00:35:45,860 --> 00:35:49,080 elder titans even the largest one the phantom 653 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,180 lord and I had a great gargant as well but around 654 00:35:53,180 --> 00:35:57,200 three or four years ago I sold many of them because 655 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,000 to be honest I've had them for about 20 years and 656 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,900 haven't even assembled them yet the chances of painting 657 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:08,680 them or using them one day were really slim so I said 658 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,000 I'd better sell them to somebody who really works 659 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,680 on paint wonders on them and maybe takes them to 660 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:21,280 tournament especially mostly larger armor cast miniatures 661 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,820 are rather in my opinion display miniatures because 662 00:36:24,820 --> 00:36:29,360 especially the huge titans are such overpowered I 663 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,420 think you didn't have a chance to harm them and if 664 00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:36,200 both armies have one titan and the first titan falls 665 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,400 then I think the remaining titan will vaporize the 666 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,740 army completely but we've kept some small ones elix 667 00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:49,780 has got a cool elder I think it's called warlock 668 00:36:49,780 --> 00:36:54,780 titan it's the smallest one now I think it's a wraith 669 00:36:54,780 --> 00:37:00,400 lord looks like he's got a sword over his slung over 670 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,840 his shoulder or was it kind of maybe we play with 671 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,480 this one because it's really a I think it's you 672 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,260 can call it upgrade red not maybe it's a little 673 00:37:11,260 --> 00:37:13,720 bit better characteristics a little bit better armor 674 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:18,080 values but I think it's a fair chance you can knock 675 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,940 him down with some less cans for example excellent 676 00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:22,660 and you've got one I think you've got one for the 677 00:37:22,660 --> 00:37:25,240 tyrannies too haven't you there's one for the tyranny 678 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,340 I've kept several smaller ones so the largest one 679 00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:33,260 I've got left I've sold my reval titan but I've 680 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,160 warhound left for the imperial forces and I've 681 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,080 got several tyranid and orc tanks left and I hope to 682 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,120 do at least one of these orc tanks myself because 683 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,480 one of them one of these gobs measures is already 684 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,520 painted there's another one a scratch build one because 685 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,340 in one of the white dwarfs there was a kind of a 686 00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:59,560 scheme which you could use to build one and I've got 687 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,960 at least one probably two or three of each of the 688 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,260 three tyranid ones they look great I like the 689 00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:09,040 models and I think I painted one or two for 690 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,500 them myself and they're at least one or two others 691 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:16,080 which are painted but they are not for competitive 692 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,480 games they look great yeah I think it's the exo prime 693 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,120 you painted by yourself and you have a malefactor and 694 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,760 how and how aspects I think these were the three 695 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,380 published for the tyranid forces but they actually 696 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:30,660 came with that when you bought those kits they 697 00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:33,420 actually came with a data facts sheet you actually 698 00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:37,020 had rules and everything I still have got some of the 699 00:38:37,020 --> 00:38:41,360 boxes these were white boxes and there was a 700 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,120 horrible white and black print on them showing Joini 701 00:38:45,580 --> 00:38:49,240 and blah blah USA and so on and there were green 702 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:55,380 green polystyrene stuff or flakes around them to 703 00:38:55,380 --> 00:39:00,920 protect them and then there was a folded data facts 704 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,060 included which was already folded so much that you 705 00:39:05,060 --> 00:39:09,460 could barely read and even the pictures were horrible 706 00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:15,400 because in one of these sets I found extra wattle 707 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,540 cards for orc vettels but back then the art of 708 00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:23,120 photocopying was so bad that they were mainly black 709 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,120 I uploaded them to the second edition book on a 710 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,920 group on facebook which is really great and I think 711 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,040 ergo fog will ask me where are they from because they 712 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,160 look so unprofessional well it doesn't get more 713 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,600 unprofessional than 1991 or whenever they were released 714 00:39:46,580 --> 00:39:48,700 it's amazing there's any print on them at all 715 00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:51,660 because usually photocopies fade to nothing you know 716 00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:54,660 there's nothing left after so many years but yeah 717 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,700 it's always interesting to see those on the tabletop 718 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:58,560 when you play them because I've never seen them on 719 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,660 the table ever I mean my friend Marcus has I think 720 00:40:02,660 --> 00:40:08,080 a revenant titan for elder and I know he's got a 721 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,860 warlock titan I think as well maybe but yeah I've 722 00:40:12,860 --> 00:40:15,640 never seen them actually played in second edition so 723 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,760 it's been quite fascinating to see them as it's like 724 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,920 a centerpiece model or people actually using them 725 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,740 in games so and much is the joy of 3d printing 726 00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:29,200 that you can do that now you can get these bigger 727 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,920 larger kits and use them in games if you wanted to 728 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,660 but then you know I play epic I play epic scale 729 00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:39,080 have you guys ever tried epic space marine? No 730 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,320 we would have liked to do so but as there are only 731 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,160 the two of us left out of our traditional gaming group 732 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:52,140 everybody had to own at least six or seven or 733 00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:55,660 eight different armies if that been the original five 734 00:40:55,660 --> 00:40:59,700 of us everybody maybe would have owned a 40k a fantasy 735 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:05,000 army an epic army or stuff like that but so as it is 736 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,040 our shelves are crammed with 40k second edition 737 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,260 stuff and some newer stuff and our five or new case 738 00:41:13,260 --> 00:41:16,900 six fantasy armies completely I was going to 739 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:19,280 say do you guys actually play any other games apart 740 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,340 from second edition and one of fantasy eighth edition 741 00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:24,020 are there any other games you play that you don't 742 00:41:24,020 --> 00:41:27,380 film? Yeah but to be honest not very 743 00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:32,040 often I bought a couple of years ago it's also a 744 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,360 miniature war game it's called free buddha's fate 745 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,680 it's I think a german company who developed this 746 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,040 game and it's mainly focused on a pirate setting 747 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,020 so you play a rather skirmish game so you have 748 00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:54,960 a small band of about five six seven pirates but with 749 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,080 a little bit touch of fantasy so they are goblins 750 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,220 goblins pirates and so on and I think we played it 751 00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:07,420 once or twice but never filmed it and I also own 752 00:42:07,420 --> 00:42:14,120 some club ball teams but actually never I think you 753 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,040 didn't even played it I played it with some other 754 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,120 guys no club ball but we never played it for the 755 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,140 channel up to now I was interested but I haven't 756 00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:30,880 read the rules yet and basically I think you've 757 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,300 got most of the teams or even no not much I have 758 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,940 the some different ones so human team or orc team the 759 00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:42,280 vampires no not not vampires okay um dark elves 760 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,940 so basically I have three teams the human team the 761 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:50,500 orc land raiders I think they're called and the dark 762 00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:53,420 elf team the negroth nightmares yep I think 763 00:42:53,420 --> 00:42:56,780 that's I think so yeah yeah okay cool that's good 764 00:42:56,780 --> 00:42:59,160 okay well at least at some point you can give blood 765 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,140 bowl a try the third edition of blood bowl I 766 00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:05,560 think is the most characterful the 90s 1993 767 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,740 version I think it was that's a very cool edition 768 00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:13,800 so now looking at 40k second edition as I know 769 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,080 it's is that your probably your favorite game yeah 770 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,240 that's right and what are your favorite armies do you 771 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:25,700 like to play I like them all it's all of the choice 772 00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:29,780 this is one one of the hardest questions to answer 773 00:43:29,780 --> 00:43:32,740 because if somebody asked me if I was allowed to 774 00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:36,380 keep only one single army I'd probably spend the next 775 00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:40,020 15 years thinking about which one it would be like 776 00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:43,680 them so much because for me it's maybe the elder 777 00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:47,500 because I put really a great effort in painting 778 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:52,340 the espectorious the last years and therefore it's a 779 00:43:52,340 --> 00:43:55,660 demon her ferret army and to be honest I think it's 780 00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:59,300 the most beautiful one and I think you won't need any 781 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:02,600 new models because you can't make them look much 782 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,240 better than them yeah even Mark Gibbons artwork is 783 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:14,860 absolutely the best stuff and the models designed to 784 00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:19,960 this artwork so yeah I think you can't you can't 785 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,100 look at it and say oh it's kind of old fashioned 786 00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:25,540 and the new one looks looks much better and I 787 00:44:25,540 --> 00:44:29,120 really stand the test of time Mark to be honest the 788 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:34,680 new aspect for us which GW published I think they look 789 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,840 a little more dynamic but I look a little more 790 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,060 dynamic but I really they fit quite close to the 791 00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:42,600 older models in my opinion if you compare it to the 792 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,820 old space for instance and the primaries which are 793 00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:48,880 really a great difference in size and so on and I 794 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,600 think the new aspect for us are really close to the 795 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,360 old ones in my opinion the new striking scorpions or 796 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,060 the other stuff awesome okay yeah I really like 797 00:44:58,060 --> 00:45:01,900 you I really like your elder painted army Alex and 798 00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:04,140 I think it looks really nice and it Alex is it 799 00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:06,480 your dark angel army you feature on the channel too 800 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,960 is it yours the dark angel army is from Marcus Marcus 801 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,540 I really like that I think it's a really nicely 802 00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:15,920 painted army I really like that a lot and maybe you 803 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,940 can tell the story behind last one we presented our 804 00:45:20,940 --> 00:45:25,380 orc player with the storm of vengeance box set as a 805 00:45:25,380 --> 00:45:27,940 back then in the 90s during our time at 806 00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:31,880 university and then I had to because we planned to 807 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,920 play it then I really had to spend a university 808 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,720 university break I think three months painting dark 809 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,120 angels every day and I managed to do the five 810 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,280 most important characters the captain psychic tech 811 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:53,260 marine nemen for this one and and the chaplain as 812 00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:58,120 well as for squats I had scouts tactical marines 813 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,080 devastating and assault marines and I really 814 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,680 painted them according to the codex with the squad 815 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,920 markings army badge and and chapter markings and stuff 816 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,380 like that took quite a lot of time and I even did 817 00:46:11,380 --> 00:46:15,160 the dreadnought and the razor back and these are 818 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,460 really painted back in the 90s by Marcus the dark 819 00:46:17,460 --> 00:46:20,800 angels but they were among the the last models I 820 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,680 painted before the before the long end no they 821 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,680 certainly stood the test of time I think they look 822 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,120 really fantastic in terms of like the entire cohesive 823 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,520 look of the army it looks really really nice do you 824 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,000 actually have any of your all paints from the from 825 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,460 the 90s the old citadel hexpots do you have those 826 00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:42,040 I've got many of my really old ones the round ones 827 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:48,120 then the others are maybe hexpots with colors like 828 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,180 blazing orange and I bought some completely new ones I 829 00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:56,600 didn't find a cool replay I haven't found a cool 830 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,680 replacement for snake bite leather yet which I would 831 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,600 have needed for my ox for orcs 16 to 20 which I 832 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,160 still have to do but together with the force I 833 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,480 sent to patrick to silver ear painting I think I 834 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,500 should have between 500 and maybe even 1500 points for 835 00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:24,340 our usual levels of points we play and I'm really 836 00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:27,760 looking forward to seeing painted orcs against an 837 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,560 experience fully painted elder army and maybe Alex's 838 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:37,460 was during corona has succeeded in doing 2500 839 00:47:37,460 --> 00:47:42,460 point imperial guard army I own a really huge one but 840 00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:46,980 I haven't painted a single I've painted one cycle yeah 841 00:47:46,980 --> 00:47:50,140 but that's the only part out of these nine platoons 842 00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:55,040 yeah Alex is that a really cool painted catfish and 843 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,020 jungle find that themed army oh cool with you've 844 00:47:59,020 --> 00:48:01,940 got writers as well rough writers and red links but 845 00:48:01,940 --> 00:48:04,680 I think we never used them in games yet I painted the 846 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:09,220 five ethylene rough riders yeah I think we never used 847 00:48:09,220 --> 00:48:12,040 them in games so far they would be a cool opponent 848 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,240 against 1500 points of orcs maybe one day but for me 849 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:20,960 I don't have any of the old paints to be honest I 850 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,240 think I doing some movement in the past I think I 851 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:28,600 threw them away because most or some of them were 852 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:33,620 tried out and I thought okay let's put them into 853 00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:38,980 the trash bin and I only use newer paints but with 854 00:48:38,980 --> 00:48:43,020 one exception it's a newer paint but I don't know the 855 00:48:43,020 --> 00:48:47,880 company but it's from crease or creed they are 856 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,400 producing it's called nostalgia paint or some 857 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,400 kind like that and they're really really producing the 858 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,140 old stuff it's really similar yeah exactly those 859 00:49:00,140 --> 00:49:03,740 ones yeah yeah so this is it Marcus I bought a 860 00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:06,620 couple of them here a snake bite leather oh 861 00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:11,940 that's that's the one I need it's called serpent 862 00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:16,200 serpent bite leather now serpent bite leather okay 863 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,200 I'll send you a link to warcolors and then you can 864 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,000 get that more colors exactly that's the company's 865 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,280 name thanks I had the impression that if you 866 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,920 store them upside down at medium temperature and if 867 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,200 there's a lot of content left within these pots they 868 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,360 survive for 20 or 30 years there's a problem with the 869 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,680 metallic ones because they are probably bolt gun metal 870 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,660 they're probably of another consist these are the these 871 00:49:47,660 --> 00:49:52,220 are the old hey these are the old round nothing wrong 872 00:49:52,220 --> 00:49:56,140 with them and I've got about 20 of them left oh 873 00:49:56,140 --> 00:49:59,660 wow that's good man yeah some vintage yeah almost 874 00:49:59,660 --> 00:50:04,380 yeah okay we're gonna take it also very great yeah I 875 00:50:04,380 --> 00:50:06,960 bet we're gonna take a very quick advertisement 876 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,180 break and when we come back we can talk more 877 00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:11,360 about second edition and your love of the armies 878 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,840 and your maybe your favorite models next so 879 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,820 we're back in just a moment if you are enjoying 880 00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:19,900 this podcast and the content on the crown of 881 00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:22,460 command games youtube channel then please consider 882 00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:27,360 supporting me on patreon so check out patreon .com 883 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,180 forward slash the crown of command podcast yeah so 884 00:50:31,180 --> 00:50:34,200 serpent bite serpent bite leather that's what you 885 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,500 need Marcus this one and then yeah Alice can show 886 00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:39,840 you which website it is and how to get them okay 887 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,340 so and then you're you're I think they're really uh 888 00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:48,700 quite a good match yeah they're very good um and 889 00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:52,660 the Vallejo game color range is also a very good 890 00:50:52,660 --> 00:50:57,740 match for old school paints you know so they're very 891 00:50:57,740 --> 00:51:02,440 vibrant colors very rich colors so and uh but yeah 892 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,160 I've got I've got a lot of the wall color stuff 893 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,500 and it's it's pretty good it's not bad at all yeah 894 00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:12,080 so give them a go give me a try yeah but um yeah I 895 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,340 also have colors from different companies from 896 00:51:15,340 --> 00:51:19,900 Vallejo or from AK Interactive yeah etc that 897 00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:23,080 of course so it's a mixture it's not a single 898 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,360 brand I use um I think they're in colors which are 899 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,000 better from this company and other colors from the 900 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,040 other so I think it's really personal choice which 901 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,160 colors you use I think you can't say that this color 902 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,380 is best it's maybe for me best but um I think 903 00:51:41,380 --> 00:51:44,620 everyone has to you know figure it out for himself 904 00:51:44,620 --> 00:51:49,040 and back then I even put some paints because they 905 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,420 were really cheap I got some Iqor during my time 906 00:51:52,420 --> 00:51:55,120 at university I was looking for a color for the 907 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,120 imperial guard basic crime or stuff like that and 908 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,420 there was a company called Iqor I think and I still 909 00:52:02,420 --> 00:52:05,500 have one or two pots of them because I used them 910 00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:09,060 for my dark elder which I like very much they were 911 00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:12,620 not an official second edition race they came out 912 00:52:12,620 --> 00:52:15,920 at the end it was between second and third edition 913 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,260 but I like the models so much and the one codex we 914 00:52:20,260 --> 00:52:24,800 found on the internet is really matches the other 915 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,600 ones yes I've seen those featured on your channel so 916 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,700 the dark yeah you said the dark elder they came out 917 00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:32,640 just at third edition didn't they so did they 918 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,660 actually get any kind of white dwarf rules for 919 00:52:35,660 --> 00:52:39,960 second edition at all no no I think the last ones 920 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,820 which got rules were the necron because the necron 921 00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:48,160 raiders destroyer necron destroyer was featured the 922 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,560 necron lord the warriors and the scarabs and I 923 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,160 think the first white dwarf published for the third 924 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,680 edition came out with a cabalit warrior on the 925 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,460 plastic model it's a gift I think it was the 926 00:53:01,460 --> 00:53:03,960 starting box a dark elder versus space for rings for 927 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,960 the third edition and so they didn't see any rules 928 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,740 official rules for the second edition yep you're 929 00:53:09,740 --> 00:53:12,520 right that's right yeah exactly wow that's going 930 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,480 back a long time ago now looking at your armies 931 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,160 looking at all the miniatures what what is 932 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,580 your favorite miniature do you think in your range or 933 00:53:20,580 --> 00:53:22,560 in the whole like if you just think about second 934 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,120 edition 40k maybe you have it already maybe you don't 935 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,020 have it already maybe it's on your wishlist what's 936 00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:31,720 your favorite miniature one of elix models I like very 937 00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:37,380 much is the slanesh champion on a snake tail I 938 00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:41,260 think it's a it's a fantasy model as well it's 939 00:53:41,260 --> 00:53:45,500 not a 40k model only with I think he's got more than 940 00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:48,400 two arms I think he's got two arms with swords and 941 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,660 one with a finger pointing and a ring or stuff like 942 00:53:50,660 --> 00:53:53,160 that it's a really cool one yeah it's a really 943 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,100 difficult question because there's so many 944 00:53:55,100 --> 00:54:00,600 transmenagers but if I have to name one I'd like maybe 945 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:07,800 most my old chaos terminator captain it's a 946 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,640 miniature which I got I think gifted from Argus or 947 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,640 the one I bought in Britain I think oh okay 948 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,960 and it's the old one with I think with some power 949 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,520 claw and a steaming sword in the other hand and I 950 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,860 think it was the first chaos space marine I 951 00:54:26,860 --> 00:54:31,920 painted by myself so and it's a really nice 952 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,980 miniature I think wonderful now what's on your wish 953 00:54:34,980 --> 00:54:37,400 list this year like in terms of if you're going 954 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,640 to think about purchasing miniatures to expand your 955 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,700 armies what's what's on your what's on your 956 00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:47,760 miniature radar this year no I'd rather like to get 957 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,200 some stuff painted than when bought but I I've got 958 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:58,680 I think I bought for more fantasy 20 fletcher lens to 959 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,980 be waiting to be painted I've got the pistol ears 960 00:55:02,980 --> 00:55:06,960 waiting to be painted and there's some really large 961 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,460 minis in my wood elves army left I've already 962 00:55:11,460 --> 00:55:14,740 mentioned I'd like to send another parcel to Patrick 963 00:55:14,740 --> 00:55:19,020 with my squats because they're another quite 964 00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:23,780 iconical second edition army and if I do another one 965 00:55:23,780 --> 00:55:26,720 it'll be probably the wood elves because I've got some 966 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:32,100 fake writers left and lots of the cool old I think 967 00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:35,280 their fourth or fifth edition and I think they 968 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:41,100 might be Harley Quinn the the spearmen and there was 969 00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:46,740 an old box which said scarlocks arches so around 970 00:55:46,740 --> 00:55:50,820 maybe 18 of them and they'd be a great addition 971 00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:55,080 to my forces but there are always a single newer 972 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,880 models which I like which are saying man this would 973 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,220 be a great addition to our old old second edition 974 00:56:01,220 --> 00:56:04,260 stuff and sometimes especially this especially 975 00:56:04,260 --> 00:56:08,260 in in case of the scaven when you see something on 976 00:56:08,260 --> 00:56:11,640 the internet and say wow I really need to have this 977 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,720 old one and back then these were really cool 978 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:17,600 models because there were several a single piece 979 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,800 metal models which can't break or get stuck or 980 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,340 stuff like that that's right yeah yeah for me I 981 00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:31,220 would like to add I've got a small Frateris militia 982 00:56:31,220 --> 00:56:34,660 band for the Sisters of Battle those old metal 983 00:56:34,660 --> 00:56:41,560 miniatures and I'd like to add some Frateris militia 984 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,020 with heavy stubbers but they were never published 985 00:56:44,020 --> 00:56:47,560 of course but I found some old necromanda miniatures 986 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,820 maybe the Asher girl with the heavy stubber or 987 00:56:55,460 --> 00:56:58,320 Goliath fighter with a heavy stubber I think they 988 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,760 would fit quite nicely to the Frateris militia from 989 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,500 the size and from the appearance so I tried to 990 00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:07,460 get some of these maybe this tier on the internet 991 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,520 wonderful and what's on the painting table I know 992 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,960 Marcus has sent off his miniatures to a to a 993 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,620 painter over there in Germany but Alex do you 994 00:57:17,620 --> 00:57:21,340 paint yeah yeah actually I'm painting my Wraith god 995 00:57:21,340 --> 00:57:26,760 for the elder range and of course then I have a lot 996 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,820 of options after that what's missing from my 997 00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:33,500 elder army is still the Rangers I just painted one 998 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:37,040 elder ranger and I've all I've got the old metal 999 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,040 models and I think there were seven or eight 1000 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,980 different ones and I've got one model each so that 1001 00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:47,120 would probably next and I think then I have almost 1002 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,440 finished at least the squats of the elder army 1003 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,540 then there are only the phoenix loads missing and 1004 00:57:53,540 --> 00:57:59,920 some exarks and I think then it's finished I think 1005 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,340 maybe the elder Rangers would be after the race 1006 00:58:02,340 --> 00:58:08,960 god next awesome Marcus again I'm I'm looking I'm 1007 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,340 looking forward to continuing the work on my 1008 00:58:13,340 --> 00:58:20,020 corn army and the dark elder while I hope 1009 00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:22,880 perfectly do some of the work on my wood elves 1010 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,680 which which are really delicate minis and my 1011 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,800 squats and afterwards there's so much left they 1012 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,900 haven't even thought about spending time on the space 1013 00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:39,320 wolves my imperial god and my elder because Alex has 1014 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,480 got a beautifully painted elder army so we felt okay 1015 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:49,260 come on snow hurry and who inspires you out there on 1016 00:58:49,260 --> 00:58:51,620 the internet like it maybe a youtube channel or 1017 00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:54,800 someone on the internet that really inspires you to 1018 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,640 keep keep going with your battle reports keep making 1019 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,360 these videos keep playing for the case second edition 1020 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,640 anybody out there that really motivates you at all 1021 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,480 you have a free the free channel which motivated us 1022 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,720 most during all these years were your channel of course 1023 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:17,620 crown of command then bring and battle is another great 1024 00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:21,620 one and second edition war gaming they don't have many 1025 00:59:21,620 --> 00:59:26,980 games or videos but all of them are high end if it 1026 00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:30,420 comes to terror painting and the models themselves 1027 00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:34,600 and there are lots of other channels I think 1028 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,580 bunker war gaming or a bunker gaming this is 1029 00:59:37,580 --> 00:59:42,020 playing often fantasy and the Scandinavian one more 1030 00:59:42,020 --> 00:59:48,040 fantasy a miscast table miscast and there are so 1031 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,000 many channels it's really incredible if you compare 1032 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,620 it to former times where you were on your own or 1033 00:59:53,620 --> 00:59:57,240 maybe meet some people on conventions but now you can 1034 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:03,120 can just open the browser and found so many other 1035 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,740 great channels that and if you subscribe them all I 1036 01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:13,520 was a few times in holidays and then you can 1037 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,660 back in the 90 new videos which you can you probably 1038 01:00:17,660 --> 01:00:21,960 so it's really awesome the content which you can 1039 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,680 consume no it's good isn't it it's great that people 1040 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,220 are making some great content out there for 1041 01:00:28,220 --> 01:00:31,980 second edition and some of these older games yeah I 1042 01:00:31,980 --> 01:00:36,000 hope I hope I like added mini so it does great 1043 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:41,540 videos as well and yes I really like the second ed 1044 01:00:41,540 --> 01:00:46,760 war gaming channel I really like his space fleet battle 1045 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,440 videos I think they're fantastic so I think maybe 1046 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,680 he's coming back to show some new videos with his 1047 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,920 elder new elder army he's painted up and he showed 1048 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,880 in he showed a pick in the second edition group it 1049 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,060 was I showed it to you around months ago of a 1050 01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:10,160 huge squad force assembled so I thought wow this 1051 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,220 would be a match up the the elder the outweigh 1052 01:01:13,220 --> 01:01:16,120 against the squads yeah it sounds like he has sounds 1053 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,140 like he has a lot of a lot of models in his 1054 01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:20,280 collection actually he's collected over the years 1055 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,700 since the 90s and of course yeah rich and Jason 1056 01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:26,640 at bringing battle do great battle reports a lot of 1057 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,440 fun so it's nice we're living in a good time now 1058 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,520 for second edition I think maybe there's more people 1059 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,980 playing it now than there ever was or I'm playing 1060 01:01:36,980 --> 01:01:39,720 games I've ever did when I when I played in the 90s 1061 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,200 so it's a good time to be around and getting into it 1062 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,940 so yeah great great guys now also about white dwarf 1063 01:01:46,940 --> 01:01:50,740 magazine now when it was released in Germany you had 1064 01:01:50,740 --> 01:01:52,920 a different edition it sort of started sort of reset 1065 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,600 down to number one two three and that kind of 1066 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,600 thing did you did you experience white dwarf in 1067 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,200 Germany at some point yeah they were they were really 1068 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:06,460 great I still remember owning a copy of citadel 1069 01:02:06,460 --> 01:02:10,020 miniatures catalog and this together with the white 1070 01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:16,380 dwarfs were sources of inspiration we've spent lots 1071 01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:20,340 of lessons just looking at the minis under our desks 1072 01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:24,960 we were looking at the new minis in bed and thinking 1073 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,620 when shouldn't I start this army or which mini can I 1074 01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:33,400 buy next with the the money grandmark gives me 1075 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,360 for Christmas or stuff like that and there are many 1076 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,280 pictures I have still on my mind even pictures of 1077 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,300 terror which I saw there for the first time that's 1078 01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:47,420 the great thing about this universe back then when I 1079 01:02:47,420 --> 01:02:51,580 was a child and a cool movie ended I thought well 1080 01:02:51,580 --> 01:02:56,360 that's it now you're back back to reality but when 1081 01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,240 the 40k never ends even after you've finished a 1082 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,820 finished a battle report it's still on your mind 1083 01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:05,960 and you think okay next time Alex next week bring 1084 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,580 bring along another 500 points or maybe add a red 1085 01:03:09,580 --> 01:03:15,220 dot or a librarian and but you're right there was a 1086 01:03:15,220 --> 01:03:19,600 separate german numbers for the german white dwarf but 1087 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:25,340 I think our fantasy shops always have both editions 1088 01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:30,060 available so you can choose which to buy and I have I 1089 01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:35,880 think about 12 13 issues still at home from the 90s 1090 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:44,820 some german and some in english and really I don't 1091 01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:48,840 know I've read them maybe twice tries but you always 1092 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,440 scroll the pages and those great guys Adrienne Wood 1093 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,300 and service Johnson and how they called and their 1094 01:03:57,300 --> 01:04:01,260 battery ports and it's really might make me was a 1095 01:04:01,260 --> 01:04:04,200 painter back then and it's a really great inspiration 1096 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,800 if you see the pictures and the paint shops back 1097 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:13,480 then and I also if you just mentioned a mike we I 1098 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,980 think he published a book second edition for decay 1099 01:04:16,980 --> 01:04:21,380 painting the painting guide and it's really a great 1100 01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:25,520 book as well even today because it's very in depth 1101 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:30,600 explanation of how to mix colors and fade out the 1102 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,020 colors and highlighting and so on and so forth it's 1103 01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:38,620 really a great book yeah now talk about terrain you 1104 01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:41,360 have quite a unique terrain set up with your ice table 1105 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:47,640 like it's an Antarctic all styrofoam terrain on a 1106 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,740 white sheet or something it's quite quite something 1107 01:04:49,740 --> 01:04:52,760 I've never seen anything like it but you always 1108 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,400 come up with some interesting sort of table 1109 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,440 setups when you play second edition and I think the 1110 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,260 ice terra I think they started it was back then 1111 01:05:01,260 --> 01:05:03,680 during the university I think it's almost 20 years 1112 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,500 old my girlfriend and me moved to a really it was 1113 01:05:08,500 --> 01:05:12,800 really a hobby it was bad but there was a huge there 1114 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,380 was a huge garden and within the garden there 1115 01:05:16,380 --> 01:05:19,880 were garages which couldn't be used because of of a 1116 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:25,320 fence preventing cars from entering the property and 1117 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:30,960 so therefore we bought lots of polystyrene and even 1118 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,760 spent 20 euros maybe back then on a polystyrene knife 1119 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:40,760 and then started to do the ice and deserts terra we 1120 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:47,600 still own and we had a kind of we've we already 1121 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:53,240 had painted tables back then but during moving from 1122 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,620 one place to another we threw them away probably 1123 01:05:56,620 --> 01:06:02,040 and one of the sites was painted in yellow for our 1124 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,760 desert terra whereas the other one was painted white 1125 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,880 for our ice terra because of the loss of these 1126 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,500 pieces of wood we just moved on to using blankets 1127 01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:18,260 which are much cheaper and easy to transport but 1128 01:06:18,260 --> 01:06:23,680 originally we planned to do some painting and even 1129 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,920 highlighting our ice terra during summer maybe this 1130 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,460 summer we're planning to schedule some days more 1131 01:06:31,460 --> 01:06:37,180 painting or or doing other because we've bought a lot 1132 01:06:37,180 --> 01:06:41,060 of terra recently I still remain it's it's three deep 1133 01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:45,080 printed stuff I remember having bought a really cool 1134 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,880 dark elder tower which we could use in fantasy as 1135 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:55,120 well as in 40k as a watch tower and a corn like gate 1136 01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:00,500 and two official games workshop buildings one of 1137 01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:06,360 them is kind of an elder a portal with a waterfall 1138 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,240 is going the wrong way and the other one looks like a 1139 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,800 dragon's cave the dragon's heads and there's a cave 1140 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,500 beneath it but we'll have to do we'll have to paint 1141 01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:17,480 all of it one day you have to paint it in summer 1142 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,020 well I'm watching you drinking a beer and are 1143 01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:22,340 you playing 40k second edition today of course 1144 01:07:22,340 --> 01:07:26,100 only a short game 400 points core hammer game 1145 01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:29,740 because tomorrow I have to leave for one week to 1146 01:07:29,740 --> 01:07:34,860 Denmark so actually I have no not too much time today 1147 01:07:34,860 --> 01:07:38,660 but we play a short game after this yeah it's kind 1148 01:07:38,660 --> 01:07:42,660 of disappointing we wanted to do 2000 points of chaos 1149 01:07:42,660 --> 01:07:48,240 versus chaos corn and myrtle against slain and 1150 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,160 cinch but it would have taken too long we basically 1151 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,040 have to play right now then I'll do the video 1152 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,360 take it to Alex and he'll try to upload it before 1153 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,900 leaving for us getting there tomorrow in the 1154 01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:04,260 morning okay well I don't want to keep you guys 1155 01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:06,820 waiting I thank you so much again for coming onto 1156 01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:08,960 the Krammenkameen podcast I really appreciate the time 1157 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,200 and I want you guys have a great game that's what 1158 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,320 it's all about but thank you very much thanks for 1159 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,000 your time and my pleasure thank you very much for 1160 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,979 sharing your story it's been fascinating I'm really 1161 01:08:18,979 --> 01:08:21,720 glad that you guys had a friendship over 30 years 1162 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,640 playing second edition 40k and you never argue about 1163 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:30,040 it that's amazing yeah that's after the better we 1164 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,460 can't argue because otherwise we won't have 1165 01:08:34,460 --> 01:08:40,200 anybody left to be able to pack up your models and go 1166 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,300 home and say I'm never playing with you again and 1167 01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:45,700 it's impossible isn't it yeah it's good you guys 1168 01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:48,460 play with a good spirit and I really enjoy your 1169 01:08:48,460 --> 01:08:51,660 videos and long base share I hope they will continue 1170 01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:54,479 for a long time in the future and I'm sure you've 1171 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,680 got some great stuff planned for terrain and 1172 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,240 armies and getting stuff painted I'd love to look 1173 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,939 forward to the orc army when it's finished when it 1174 01:09:00,939 --> 01:09:03,840 comes back from the from the commission painter and 1175 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,720 yeah interesting closing guys thank you very much 1176 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,260 for coming on today thank you very much yeah thanks 1177 01:09:08,260 --> 01:09:10,920 a lot okay see you