1 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,440 Thank you very much again for downloading another episode. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,920 Of the chronic. Men podcast. 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,560 I hope you enjoy our conversation today as the 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,320 podcast still is in hiatus. I want to apologize to my good 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:25,920 friend Phil, who we had to cancel again on Friday. 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,360 So really sorry about that mate, but we'll have you back on next 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,800 month when things start getting back to normal again here at the 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,720 studio and I have more time to chat with these wonderful people 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,440 out there in the world talking about all aspects about the 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,920 hobby. So sorry again about about that, 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,600 Phil, But we'll have you back on next month, mate. 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,200 And along with a host of other people coming on to talk to you 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,160 guys, which would be great. So I look forward to hearing 14 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:53,960 their stories. But for today, this is a 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,040 flashback going back to one of our live streams I did with 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Jimmy and with Krell from the Old World Lives podcast. 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,360 If you haven't heard of it, please go and check it out. 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,000 It started off as a 6th edition Wham, a fantasy podcast, but now 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,440 it's sort of that plus the old world. 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,000 They talk a lot about the old world as well and about their, 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,480 their about product releases, about hobby. 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,440 They're into me converting, collecting, painting and their 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,200 shows go for a good one hour and a half or two hours long and 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,120 they're always a good listen. I, I enjoy the conversations all 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,920 of those guys have. There's about, there's a number 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,920 of number of people there, about 5 members, maybe four or five 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,960 members and maybe 3 regulars. But yeah, I've listened to them 28 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:42,640 for years and it was a great opportunity to have them on here 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,880 to talk to me about all different kinds of aspects of 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,680 different things. And we, we initially started 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,120 talking a lot about video games and I've edited that out. 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,520 So if you want to see the full video, you need to go to the 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Crown to Command Games channel and click on the live tab at the 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,600 top there. And you'll, you'll be directed 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,000 to all the live streams I've done with various past and new 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,520 guests for the for the show. And of course, Jimmy's been on 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,920 twice, talking about more time the second time and initially 38 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:21,240 talking about how we got into the hobby on the podcast. 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,360 So it's great, always great to have Jimmy on. 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,560 He's a great guy. They're both really wonderful 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,320 people and they they have a great passion for the hobby and 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,200 I think that comes out in many ways more ways than one in this 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,520 conversation. So I really enjoyed it. 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,720 We had a few beers and I think Jimmy had a fair few too many 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,240 whiskeys or something, I think, and I think Carl had one or two 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,720 too many coffees during that morning. 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,240 But I hope you guys enjoy it. Please sit back at your brushes 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,160 out you get your paints and miniatures out because I want 49 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,120 you to paint and do some hobby as you listen. 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:03:04,240 OK guys, so enjoy and take care. Can I, can I tell a story, Josh? 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,320 Don't you always tell stories? Scroll always. 52 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Feel like feel like an old man who did in darkness in like 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,360 basically some rough home scroll by the fireplace. 54 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,680 I have a story for your young adventurer of a time long 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,640 forgotten. No, because like one of the one 56 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:25,320 of the recurring tropes we found when we had a podcast was that 57 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,600 like people who sent us stories And like one of the recurring 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,800 stories that everybody had in like different variations was 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,120 like either they had like really fond members playing where I'm 60 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,400 fancy or they met like a really good friend or spouse playing 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,080 their hobby. And like, it's amazing how the 62 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,840 hobby itself has gone from a fringe activity into being 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,760 played by like Henry Cavill of all people. 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,160 But one of the recording stories we got like a trope is it always 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,600 starts like this. I went to a thrift sale against 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,600 my wish. So like they go to like a yard 67 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,120 sale or like a Rumbles. Do you know, like a jumbo sales. 68 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,280 It's like when everybody sells stuff from like schools because 69 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,440 their kids moved out or whatever. 70 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,280 And they can usually get get like back in the day you could 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,520 get like a 910 Nintendo 8 bit for like £5 or something because 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,160 you know, the parents don't want to have the stuff around or did 73 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,880 say like original transformer stuff for like pennies on the 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,240 dollar because nobody knew what was worth. 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,960 And Anthony wasn't around. And one of the stories we always 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,480 had just like we kept hearing and we all wanted to be part of 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,959 was basically I went to a yard sale and they bought like a bag 78 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,160 of old hammer for like pennies on the dollar. 79 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,360 And actually a couple of years ago, my kid would have been 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,200 sick. So it's two years he had been to 81 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,560 kickboxing and we went to eat Subway because he loves Subway. 82 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,400 And I just want to throw that in if anybody wants to eat Subway. 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,640 My kid loves it. Probably because the bread is 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,480 technically not allowed to be bred in France. 85 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,000 It's called sugar from story actually. 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,040 So like we went, it's not legally allowed to be bred. 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,520 That's true. That's not the joke. 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,080 So like we went to a yard sale that you have in the center of 89 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Stockholm every Sunday from way back in the 80s. 90 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,320 So you can basically put out whatever you want for sale. 91 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,880 And when I was younger, basically people used just flog 92 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,520 stolen goods there because there's no regulation. 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,560 So we went there one day and we walked among the table and tried 94 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,520 to explain to him, like, what's a George sale and what's 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,720 haggling? So we came to like a small 96 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,320 forgotten table way back in the corner where it's like a big 97 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Rastafari dude standing around, like nodding to invisible music 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,280 and like pointing at stuff like the stereo and like stuff. 99 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 And I saw like a weird box peeking out between a couple of 100 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,040 like, Persian rugs, which I presume were good ones. 101 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,800 But we're now like soiled beyond comprehension and like a 102 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,000 Garfield clock. And I was like, so it's like 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,840 walking like, you know, when you try, you know, Josh, when you're 104 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:31,920 trying to teach your kids and you have to talk like, you know, 105 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,320 everything in the world, like, son, when you do haggling, what 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,760 you want to do is like, and I live 1 and was peeking out 107 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,560 between the boxes was like, I have the box here. 108 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:45,120 It's an old like Apple Macintosh 2 video card box. 109 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,840 Oh wow. And next to it was, and I'm not 110 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:52,160 kidding, the original Rhino Mark two plastic box. 111 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,960 And it was like the Rhino Mark two screw two of them and then 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:03,840 the Apple two box and underneath it was the original Warhammer 113 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:05,640 Rogue Trader plastic Space Marine. 114 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,240 Box still. Oh nice. 115 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,120 So I brought it out and I checked and it was like 40-50 116 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,480 Marines still on spruce and the original box in really good 117 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,160 condition. So I tried like, feign interest 118 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,120 to this Rastafari guy and like, hey, what do you want for this? 119 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,840 And I'm sorry. And one is like, yeah, man, I 120 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:28,120 want to know what I want, but maybe that one, another one for 121 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,360 like €60. And I'm like, I don't know, man. 122 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,000 I had this as a kid and like, it's not complete. 123 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,320 And my kids like, but Daddy, you said. 124 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,920 It's an incredible find. Shut up. 125 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,040 And the Rastafari man was like, Nah, I wanna know what Adobe one 126 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,480 thought. And I'm like, well, I know like, 127 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,560 and I have to do the classic like you have to walk away a 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,080 bit. I'm like, I don't know, like £60 129 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,240 and I walked away and like I went back and just as I turned 130 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,120 my back, there was the man who was and I'm sorry again if I 131 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,920 found someone. The anthropomorphic 132 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,320 personification of a guy who collects trains like he was 133 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,600 bawling is like glasses. He has like he smelled of 134 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:15,120 perfume, but also underlying of regret and like brand and like 135 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,520 his wise and class stretched for the box. 136 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,200 And I'm like, well, it's not complete, mate. 137 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,160 And I could see a tasked and agreement in his eyes. 138 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,360 Like you and me may share you and I may share the hidden gold 139 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,320 within. But if this Rastafari man knows 140 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,160 it's actually worth, we're fucked because he's going to 141 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,640 take it to eBay. And he answered a nasally voice 142 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,200 from deep within his rat like face. 143 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,560 It's not complete and that greatly diminishes the value. 144 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,120 And Rastafari man looks like Oh well no, not one of them yet. 145 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,240 Or face. So I'm like, well, I can take 146 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,880 both of these boxes, but I don't need like the small rhino. 147 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,160 I don't know, it's called a rhino. 148 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,880 It's like a truck. He's just looking at like OK, so 149 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,120 I think I took like that Apple two box. 150 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,400 The cons can come back and like the Rogue Trader, like original 151 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,160 plastic marines still on screw. And like I sold. 152 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,320 I think I got all of them for like €40, which is like a really 153 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,800 good price. And I, I took the mark to Apple 154 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,880 box as it was so like I wasn't quite aware what's in it. 155 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,000 And I know like the Rhino got bought up by another collector, 156 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,240 really appreciates all stuff and actually sold. 157 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,200 I tried to go on the old hammer group and a mini hammer group 158 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,800 because I have like the original heavy weapon screw stealing 159 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,240 white lead and I have all stuff. But I want to sell it at a 160 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,640 decent price, but I also want to make sure that a collector got 161 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,440 it. So I forget the name now, but 162 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,679 the guy who bought it actually lives in Great Britain, and he 163 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,840 showed me a picture because he framed the original box. 164 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,240 He's a huge collector. I'm so happy he got it because 165 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,080 usually the people get these stories. 166 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,040 Like I made a tremendous find in a yard sale. 167 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,400 They usually set it off. But sometimes you get it to like 168 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,120 a collector who you know was going to appreciate it. 169 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,960 Sorry I rambled again. I found two of my really old 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,920 boxes. So I found my Imperial Space 171 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:04,560 Marines. Yeah, yeah, it's a bit damaged. 172 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:12,320 I got this I got this baby full on sprue on on the gaming 173 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:20,880 convention Gothcon nothing like 2012 full box for like 300 174 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:30,920 Swedish krooner I believe should be around $30 ish and the this 175 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,840 box is in better condition. It's the Imperial Prince 176 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:40,600 authors, Imperial Dwarfs. I think I have like half the 177 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,760 units still somewhere in my bits box. 178 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,280 I did convert the command group. Well, so here, there we guys go. 179 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:55,480 The yeah, amazing regiments of renown. 180 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,400 They even had these little stories lower about the units on 181 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,520 the backside of the box. It was amazing. 182 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,960 Yeah. Rules, stats and everything. 183 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:18,320 So a lot of these guys I used up for a Morton project and I kind 184 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,520 of want to get more of these guys for my existing orc. 185 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:22,840 Orc. What? 186 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,680 What I'm saying, the Dwarf army, I'm a I'm a heathen now. 187 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,320 I'm drunk. I guess all short dwarfing all 188 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,680 short miniatures just look the same to me, Jimmy. 189 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,760 I mean, if if you think about it, if you think about it, the 190 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,760 dwarfs is the missing link between scathing and Night 191 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,600 Goblins. I mean, Night Goblins lives in 192 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,160 caves. They're small, scathing. 193 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,680 You need to drink more or less. I can't make up to my mind, but 194 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:52,760 like dwarfs up Roji, they're small. 195 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Ellipse in caves. Yosh this is another elgi scape. 196 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,800 Even or the goblins like the elves and dwarfs don't like the 197 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,640 elves. So basically when a scathing and 198 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,920 a night goblin meets up, the love child of that event is. 199 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,880 OK, so basically Jimmy, no, no, no. 200 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,680 Swedes are like the proud DA we we hold the grudges, we make 201 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:24,160 things of incredible beauty, and we do live next to the infested 202 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,880 haunted caves. Whoa, you play? 203 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:31,200 No, no 3D prom plays. War stone in. 204 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,840 Denmark. Denmark is basically a night 205 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,040 goblin. Haunted, crooked monary, small, 206 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,600 vicious, angry daggery every hand. 207 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Eating mushrooms by the Norwegians and the Norwegians, 208 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,960 they're they're just scaven. They're Chaos Dwarfs. 209 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,200 No, no, no man, That's the Finnish guys. 210 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,240 That's finished. How? 211 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,640 Dare you? The Finnish are the proud kids 212 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,920 left. They're like the bulwark in 213 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,240 chaos. But like the dude 3D foundry 214 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,560 plays war zone. War Zone is an amazing miniature 215 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:03,560 game from way back in the 90s, which they actually made a 216 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:06,120 collectible card game called Newton's Chronicles, which I 217 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,560 played when I was younger. And there's also a comic about 218 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:09,920 it and a set of role-playing books. 219 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,280 And like it's so it's so incredibly grim hammer. 220 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,200 Like it's so grim dark. Basically, mankind is run by 221 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,120 mega corpse and they started like doing space exploration and 222 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,720 then they went to Mars and they're like, hey, there's this 223 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:29,280 weird like inscribed gate thing. There's like a huge dark marbled 224 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,840 plate. We're just going to live it out. 225 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Oh God, it's Satan and literally a hell dimension open up on Mars 226 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,760 and all the mega corpse are like going from this is something's 227 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,960 rather upsetting. Chaps. 228 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,880 We have Britannica. I believe we should do something 229 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,960 too. Well, we here at the Capital 230 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,320 Company believe this is an amazing way to actually use hell 231 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,080 energy. And then you have like the robot 232 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,640 faction called cybernetics, like mankind is doomed. 233 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,320 Robots cannot feel fair. We shall use robots to fight 234 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,960 Satan. It will be great. 235 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,440 And then you have like traditional like Chinese, Asian, 236 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,400 which is known as Mishima. And they're like we are a 237 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,800 Cybatsu from 1980s. You fear us. 238 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,760 But also, we have Mecas. It's like the entire setting is 239 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,280 amazing. Also, somebody said we're going 240 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,320 to miss out on insulting Danes. No, no, like, no. 241 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,240 It's like breeding or like eating pickled herring. 242 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Is this something you always do? You could wake me up in the 243 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,520 morning and like, the Danes are coming. 244 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,720 The Danes are coming. It's like Russia invents Europe. 245 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,160 I sleep. The Danes cross the border. 246 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,280 Real shit. Yeah, my son, my son is watching 247 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,240 like this history show and it's like. 248 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,160 PP. What did Gustav Vasa do? 249 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,920 And he actually unified Sweden way back in 1523. 250 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,160 And I'm like, you saved us from wild profiler of the Danes. 251 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,240 Let me tell you, when Charles the 20th lit fire to attend for 252 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,320 our country just to fight the Danes to make sure they couldn't 253 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,240 live there. It's like PP what a bad people 254 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,200 per chance. Like it's important that we 255 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,720 don't judge them by model conventions, but they did kill a 256 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,880 lot of people. By people I mean mainly Danes. 257 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:12,640 So a OK son a OK like war zone is a great setting and game. 258 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,920 I still like if I go rumbling back there I still have them 259 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,320 because there is a faction known as the Brotherhood, which in 260 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,320 many way is the predecessor. I think to the Gray Knights they 261 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,640 are a monastic order. Jimmy, did you ever play like 262 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,160 Mutant Chronicles or like never did? 263 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,600 I saw I saw a lot of the models in the old hobby store, but I 264 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,080 never got into it. I was like, I don't know if you 265 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,920 read Manginum when you were younger, like the. 266 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,120 I did. I did. 267 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Yeah, I did. They had an entire comic arc 268 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,480 from Mutant Chronicles in there. Yeah. 269 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,680 Also, somebody said that fellow Swede, you're going to drop off 270 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,480 your kids and do our vault here off their own, he made. 271 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,240 Just. Get him out of there, take a day 272 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,720 off, get the kids out, put some Jew time in there. 273 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Oh God, I'm too drunk for this. As they told me when I fell 274 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,120 asleep as our my wife was giving birth to our son. 275 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,520 Nobody really asks the dad how he's doing. 276 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,200 So you got to think about yourself buddy. 277 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,560 Get the kids out of there. True story actually. 278 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,400 She'll never forget, no. So like the Danes are night 279 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,720 goblins, yes, and the Norwegians are Chaos Dwarfs, yes. 280 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,560 I guess the Finnish would be. The Finnish would be for the 281 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,360 troll country. No, no, no, the trolls are the 282 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,880 troll country. They're not. 283 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Trolls. They are no trolls. 284 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Do you know how much of A history of the death we have? 285 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,160 Defense. We love the trolls. 286 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Stop quoting your girlfriend and while you're dating. 287 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,960 So it says someone who played Mutant role-playing game back in 288 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,560 the days. Mutant Chronicles compares to 289 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,440 what AOS did to Warhammer Fantasy Battle. 290 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,360 So I dislike it on principle. Then they move. 291 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,880 The move was can't be fun though. 292 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Yeah, because Mutant was the role-playing game, which was 293 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,240 like it was you would have loved the Josh. 294 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,440 It was basically like, OK, so civilization is over and 295 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,360 sentient animals now run the world. 296 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,200 However they have the same issues as before, a role to make 297 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,560 a character. And like my first character was 298 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,880 a four armed platypus with a scorpion's tail who who glowed 299 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,560 in the dark because like when you make your character, you 300 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,280 roll everything on the table. Yeah, yeah, it's it's super fun. 301 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,480 It's super fun. It's it's basically the Realms 302 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,920 of Chaos and Pokémon merge together. 303 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,360 Yeah, yeah, kinda, kinda. I like, I like the descriptions. 304 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,840 So I when when I play the the old Mutant Chronicles, it was 305 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:46,320 like around 2000 and two 2001 or I believe, because all of us who 306 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,560 were into Mutant Chronicles, we were heavily into where I'm in 307 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,800 fantasy. So I so all the characters were 308 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,280 like kind of warhammery were like rat mutants. 309 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,240 So yeah, rogue like. So gave an assassin so to say. 310 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Quite fun to play, but. 311 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:12,720 I played. I played with Tom and my friends 312 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,359 Mold the Basement, he said. It was essential to get the 313 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,200 feeling to play the Mold the Basement, which was an old 314 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,800 bombard shelter. This is this checks out We we 315 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,720 used it on on old gums gourd to play our. 316 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,800 Youth center, like a rec center, Yeah. 317 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:35,400 Yeah, yeah, like all these old sofas, like you can smell the 318 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,200 Alcoholics to own this previously. 319 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Brilliant. Yeah, but yeah, but I mean, part 320 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,560 of the fun in Newton Chronicles was all the random tables 321 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,840 because you could roll up like when you find something you can 322 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:58,240 roll on tables. And I know we found like 4 decay 323 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,240 miniatures without they mentioning it was 4 decay 324 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,960 miniatures. It's like they mentioned it's 325 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,600 small figurines and they're like thoroughly explain what a space 326 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,640 marine is without calling it a space marine. 327 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,760 But all the other things in the game is also fun because I mean, 328 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,240 when you find something that the game master needs to explain 329 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,640 what it is without saying what it is, you find this. 330 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:35,400 It's a box and it lights up and there's this disc which spins 331 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,240 around inside it. It's a fucking microwave, guys. 332 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,720 It's a fucking microwave. There's this disc that spins 333 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,720 around inside the box and it lights up. 334 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,640 As Adm you you have a lot of fun about that because like 335 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,360 basically you have to treat you're like you have to treat 336 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:57,480 the players like toddlers trying to not walk in the barbed wire. 337 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,720 You see coils of a strange substance. 338 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,320 You get the immediate impression that this might be dangerous. 339 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,160 It's always like what that one guy is like I'm going to roll 340 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,600 into it and I'm like, you wish to roll into the coils of what 341 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,160 could be basically called razor like wire. 342 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Yes, you're stuck in the razor like wire and cannot move. 343 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,960 You're bleeding. Ah, this is unfair. 344 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,040 Why did the DM do that? Or like I have to explain 345 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,920 concrete a strange. Poor substance I remember. 346 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,000 Seems to be. I remember. 347 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,320 And they're like, I'm going to eat it. 348 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,280 I remember when our GM was explaining a portable home. 349 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,600 It was a fucking. Van. 350 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,680 It was so throw thorough. It's a portable van. 351 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,880 Everyone's like, I can fit this in my pocket now. 352 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,280 It's a fucking van, guys. But that's a portable home. 353 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,880 You will never know the pain of being like a native English 354 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,960 speaker in Sweden in the the early 2000s, when everybody 355 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,520 wanted the game to be fully done in English, but everybody wasn't 356 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,840 like, really great English. And I'm like, you walk into the 357 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,280 shed in the stillness of the darkness, you can see a scythe, 358 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,280 a shovel and a hole in the back. It sounds like, oh, there's a 359 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,240 hole in there. Can I talk to her? 360 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,800 I'm like, yes, there's a hoe. I grabbed the hoe. 361 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,440 You're currently holding a hoe. Oh, man, did you guys hear it? 362 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:27,480 I'm holding a hoe and I'm like, roll 2D6 for making a wig and 363 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,000 intuition test. Yes. 364 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,040 You now realize hoe is also the name of farming implement. 365 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,480 Oh, is it? Yeah, yeah. 366 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:42,200 I mean, Music Chronicles gives me a lot of good memories. 367 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,640 It's like if Josh heard the term bomb rush. 368 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Then it's like, oh, I don't know about that. 369 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,480 That seems right. Unpleasant. 370 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,400 It sounds like a bad. Curry to me. 371 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:59,240 Yeah, if we're, if we're really going to go off the deep end, 372 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,280 just really ask me about any. White. 373 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,640 Wolf game made in the early 2000s you're. 374 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,640 Uncontrollable, uncontrollable man. 375 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,760 You just go for. It man, you just go. 376 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,440 Go ahead, go ahead. So back in the. 377 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,440 Day. No. 378 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,320 So like one of my first rolling game experiences was the White 379 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,680 Wolf of Vampire and Masquerade. Because back in the day, like 380 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,960 you didn't know anybody else from the golf rock scene. 381 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,360 You basically had to go into the center of Stockholm and find a 382 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:29,560 dried out fountain. I think I've said the story 383 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,480 sometimes. And like, you had to approach 384 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,000 the people sitting around the trench coats and like, Hard Rock 385 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,520 T-shirts because it's like finding an Oasis in a desert or 386 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,720 like a stillness in a Russia in the Russian crowd because 387 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,760 they're like hip hoppers everywhere and trans people, 388 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,960 like reggaeton people. And then it's like a small 389 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,120 clique of black Khilad people in the middle of a sweltering 390 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:50,120 summer of 35°. Plus. 391 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:53,840 You're sitting around in black clothes trying to look cool in 392 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,440 both essences of the world while like, sweating. 393 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,200 This checks out. It does. 394 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,000 Yeah, I have no idea how you found like rock, golf or video 395 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,560 game people in javelin. I assume you just like grew up 396 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,440 together from being young mushrooms. 397 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,320 Being, I mean, you know, when I was, when I was a young lad of 398 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,880 13 years old, I went to last year a couple of times, you 399 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:21,840 know, you know, the big city. The rushing Knights confused 400 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,320 him. I remember the stairs move on 401 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,320 themselves. I remember the highlights of 6th 402 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,480 edition when I got to order my bits online and got to pick them 403 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,840 up on Games Workshop store in Stockholm because I couldn't get 404 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:42,840 them sent to me in Javelin, so I needed to go to Stockholm to 405 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,000 pick things up. We give them a lot of crap, but 406 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,640 Games Workshop staff were really kind in teaching me how to use a 407 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,480 fax. Because that's how you ordered 408 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,000 your spare. Parts Oh Jesus. 409 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Oh yeah, you find that I. Had like a hand dripping water 410 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,360 and my my penmanship is really weak, which is Josh can tell you 411 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:03,000 it was basically a floggable offense in the 90s like they 412 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,360 would they would like my teachers would always say like 413 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,880 emeritus flaw on my character, like I was born out of wedlock 414 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,480 in the 1800s. Like yes, young trans penmanship 415 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,160 is rather lacking. And they said in the sort of 416 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,600 scathing tones as if I was like, I don't know, I was born with a 417 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,480 red right hand or like a tail. Yes, your penmanship is rather 418 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,680 bald. And I'm like, but I speak two 419 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,040 languages and I know a lot about history. 420 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,400 And yet your penmanship leaves something to be desired. 421 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,120 So like, I went to game. Workshops. 422 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,320 I bet you're right-handed and right left-handed. 423 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,320 No, like I could write equally bad with both hands, which 424 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:45,800 always confused my teachers. And they're like, have you tried 425 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,400 writing with your other hand? And I was like Val Kilmer in 426 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,920 Tombstone. I'm your huckleberry. 427 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,560 And so right in my left hand, like it looks equally shit here. 428 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,160 I'm like, well, I'm actually right-handed. 429 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,080 This looks worse somehow. Well, I can use the other hand. 430 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,880 Yes. You have to get a pen license 431 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080 and you have to get, like a driver's license for doing math 432 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,200 back in the day when before they would let you step up a class, 433 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,560 you had to take a driver's license in, like, multiplication 434 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,200 and division. So they sat you down. 435 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,200 Yeah, Yeah, because they sat you down and, like, left you to your 436 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,000 own devices in like a corner where nobody could bother you 437 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,760 and you had to do, like, a test on time. 438 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,880 And if you did it like you, when you have like, the morning 439 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,440 assembly in the groups, you sit in a ring and they're like, and 440 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,240 the following kids have gotten to their driver's licenses in, 441 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,080 like, multiplication or addition. 442 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,960 And you got, like, a laminated card where you wrote your name. 443 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:40,400 Yeah. So you had to get your pen 444 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,000 license. And like, when when I went to 445 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,800 Games Workshop, I wanted to order like, the Spears Vendetta 446 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,640 because I was 13. I love vampires. 447 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,640 And the dude has skull mask. Like it wasn't easy to sell. 448 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,400 They're like, don't you want like the Birdman of Catraza, 449 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,720 they can fly and shoot. Something the Vampire Count army 450 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,080 is sorely lacking. Or maybe Braganza's besiegers. 451 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,400 Because in all earnestness, the heavy armor purveys and the PS4 452 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,680 shooting would greatly augment your No, I want the skull mask 453 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,200 man with the dagger and the clothes. 454 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,040 Sir, Sir, he has. Instead. 455 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,240 Mask pushed together, he causes fear and they're like, dude your 456 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,640 entire army causes fear yes, it would be dramatic Why? 457 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Why would a vampire hire mercenaries? 458 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,800 Because he doesn't want to do things himself. 459 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:34,920 He is A and you're like well, OK, like this fact sheet. 460 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,160 So they gave me like, yeah, like a Dane. 461 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,120 So I had to fill it out. And like you got like a soldier. 462 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,680 You had to fill it out with penmanship. 463 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,760 And my penmanship was so bad that GW stuff, like they took 464 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,720 pity on me and gave me a new sheet. 465 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,640 And so I wrote like a shaky hand very slowly as the, as the 466 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,040 winter storm raged outside, Vest Sparrows, Vendetta. 467 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,720 And then they faxed it in. And then you had to come in the 468 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,560 store like once a week to see if they got your order because they 469 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,800 send them out in like batches. So sometimes you got like your 470 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,760 you got your stuff in a week and sometimes took two or three 471 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,920 weeks. And I still remember I got like 472 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,920 in a small box with a flip of lid and you open it up and like 473 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,360 inside in, like naked white metal was the spares vendetta. 474 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,120 And that's how you ordered everything back in the day. 475 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,360 If you need like, a spare arm for something. 476 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,240 Yeah. They even gave you like, free 477 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,560 stuff. Like you came in and like, hey, 478 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,680 like my vampire account was missing a horse body, which mine 479 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,360 was. I didn't get like the entire 480 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:33,880 horse. I just got like the metal head. 481 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,240 I'm like, hey, but I like a year ago I bought like the phone 482 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,800 Carstein dude on the horse and like the horse body was missing, 483 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,040 which I know it sounds like complete bullshit, but I'm not 484 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,200 lying and just look at I'm like, no, I remember you. 485 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,480 So just gave you a new one and like here, take a conciliatory 486 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,480 jumble through the bit screw and they have like an entire box, 487 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,720 like a tool box of yes, like metal arms and hats. 488 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,480 Jesus did. You remember, I know this was 489 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,960 around 6th edition. I don't know if it was around 490 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:10,680 5th or and previous, but they had these, the box were, I don't 491 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,560 remember, it was like like a yard sale box. 492 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:22,600 So they had like random models of GW in a box and it was like 493 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,960 random miniatures. Did you ever buy one of those? 494 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,440 Yeah, but in the in Stockholm, we have like this local game 495 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,600 store called Tadi Home and it's all pretty much everything. 496 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Like it's all like they sold like, you know, fake magic 497 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,200 stuff. Fake, because obviously you get 498 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,160 the Newman arcane device. But. 499 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,680 Yeah. But also you can give them, you 500 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,480 can give them like 220, like 20 kroners or like 2 quids. 501 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,120 And then you could put your hand in the mystery box. 502 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,880 And the mystery box was like basically everything you got 503 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,800 from DW that was opened or like a blister and then you're going 504 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,560 to put it up. And I think DW had the same 505 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,200 thing. You could give them like 50. 506 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,760 Kroners and you just you got to put something on the box and 507 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,520 that could be like it could be anything. 508 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,840 It could be like a guy's good. Mike Fracker from like the the 509 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,800 online game was called the online game for Warren Fancy or 510 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,880 like you could get like a random flash git guy. 511 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,360 You could get anything in that. Box I remember I, I remember 512 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:23,960 buying one of these boxes and it was like 5 of the what are they 513 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,600 called the voland's vendors 5 normal guys. 514 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:35,800 So no command, no, no voland. It was like the full price of a 515 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,080 normal normal equivalent box from G dub. 516 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,560 So I didn't know what I bought until I opened the box. 517 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,120 And I love this thing because it was like the models are kind of 518 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,400 cheaper than buying the actual models. 519 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,120 But I randomly got everything and I just loved getting these 520 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,760 nights and was like, yeah, I had these five nights so. 521 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,880 I'm going to. Go ahead and buy the Vol 522 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,160 inventors command group and a couple of more guys. 523 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Then suddenly have a unit of 10 guys, which I regrettably sold 524 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:23,480 slash, traded for normal plastic knight goblins of the late 5th 525 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:29,360 slash, the 6th edition era. And I regret this whole trade. 526 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,840 I remember, I remember how I was all into this fucking night 527 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,920 goblins because I could feel fanatics and I love night 528 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,560 goblins and fanatics. And he was like, I mean, the Vol 529 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:49,400 inventors, they're a good unit either in 5th edition or in 6th 530 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,720 edition. They're a good cavalry units. 531 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,680 I mean they're kinda kinda kinda cheaper than buying the normal 532 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:04,760 heavy cavalry for 6th edition and I and I mean like in the in 533 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,440 5th edition Voland is a good guy. 534 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,360 I mean he he has good fighting stats and everything. 535 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:16,640 He's a hero level champion so to say for unit which is likable 536 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,040 anything. Yeah, as as you know, Josh being 537 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,640 a long time listener to the old Golden podcast and if somebody 538 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,120 want to listen to it, I'd really appreciate it. 539 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,320 Being a friend of Jimmy's and playing Warhammer Fantasy 6th 540 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,800 edition is basically less than being traumatized in every army 541 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,320 there is like Jim is like, oh, here's my nice night goblin army 542 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,040 and I'm like, well, OK, my skins going to blow up. 543 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,160 I just pretend you'd be a pleasant fellow. 544 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,560 You're a 55 fanatics. They're like. 545 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,680 I love phonetics, okay, And I love my problem. 546 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,440 You're getting a beast in the face over I mean. 547 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,320 And then Jimmy. I mean, he starts shooting 548 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120 himself in the foot and it's like, well, my shaman, who is my 549 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,960 general is now going to eat 15 mushrooms and then he flies away 550 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,400 like Team Rocket in the original Pokémon series. 551 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Or like you play against Gabe and you're like, OK, I know 552 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,040 scathing. You know, it's like and then I 553 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,360 summon an entire. Horde of rats. 554 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,000 To kill everyone on the field and like, and now you're 250 555 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,600 point vampires turned. It was scathing the slave and 556 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,200 I'm like, surely these are not the rules. 557 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,040 OK, they are the rules. And then you realize that Jim is 558 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,800 basically a glorified card shark. 559 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,240 It's like, hey, let's play a couple of nice games of gin 560 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,960 rummy and then you don't have any clothes on you. 561 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,520 Kinda, kinda. So don't listen to Krell too 562 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,680 much again. I'm gonna ask Guy. 563 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,280 I'm gonna ask Guy. Of course, Guy. 564 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,080 He said, drinking whiskey by the cup full from his turtles cup. 565 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,200 He drinks whiskey. What's you? 566 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,960 You can trust me. I'm drinking whiskey from a 567 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,280 Ninja Turtles cup. Very awesome. 568 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840 Yeah. Definitely, I think, I think I 569 00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:00,280 still have like the original TMNT 1987, Leonardo Donatello, 570 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800 Rafael Michelach, you know, action figures with all the 571 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,040 accessories somewhere in the box here. 572 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,280 I did have, I did have, I kid you not. 573 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:17,880 I did have the whole toy range. But The thing is, 1997, my house 574 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,400 burnt down and everything was lost. 575 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,120 Everything, yeah, was a bummer. Only thing that survived The 576 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,920 only thing that's ever survived was my NES and a couple of games 577 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,920 that I borrowed my to my cousins. 578 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,680 And somehow, mysteriously, all all of your brother's stuff. 579 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360 Yes. Survived exactly. 580 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:48,640 I mean you guys, I mean it was around 1997. 581 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,760 It was this toy called, I think it was called Armstrong. 582 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,880 It was like a Stretch Armstrong. Yeah, yeah, Stretch Armstrong. 583 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,600 And my, my, my younger brother was born the 1st of December. 584 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,400 And he got one of these toys. And I, like, clipped up one of 585 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:17,120 these, one of his arms to see what was inside and eventually 586 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,480 hid the toy belief beneath a pillow in our car couch. 587 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,920 And I, I was like, denying everything. 588 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,040 No, I didn't cut him, cut his arm off. 589 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,800 No, no, no, no, it wasn't me, but it was me. 590 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,880 And like five days later, our house burned down and which was 591 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,720 yeah, yeah. It's like, bloody hell. 592 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,920 The only toys that I had was like toys I brought with me to 593 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:53,560 school was like 10 or 11. So everyone brought their toys 594 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,240 to school, played during races. So that was the only things that 595 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,560 survived along with the NES that I borrowed to my cousins. 596 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:08,040 And yeah. The lengths you will go to to 597 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,000 not confess to burning. Like burning down your house 598 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,080 instead of telling you to cut up Stretch Armstrong. 599 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,040 Josh is going to Josh. You're going to like a trigger. 600 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,920 You're going to need a trigger warning on this. 601 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,480 Trigger warning. Has to vivid the descriptions of 602 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,480 self harm. What happened? 603 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:32,320 To Stretch Armstrong. I don't know, is listening to 604 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,280 type serial negative. Stretch Armstrong is wearing 605 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,040 like a black trench coat. He says he's cutting himself 606 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,320 just to make sure that he feels something. 607 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,560 I don't know, mom. He has a lot of darkness. 608 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,800 I remember my dad so vividly. What the fuck happened to this 609 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,400 toy? Someone cut it open and it was 610 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,560 like it's. Like a voodoo he was. 611 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,679 Asking. He was asking my brother, two 612 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,240 years younger than me. It's like, what the fuck did you 613 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:06,240 do to it that big? You're like PP per chance. 614 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,800 I aspired him because of Yonder Stretch Armstrong. 615 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,400 He missed a big guy. He would never lie about this. 616 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,440 Jimmy Junior. Yeah, I mean. 617 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,960 PP I fetched your switch. You may punish him with it, 618 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,480 Papa. I'm the older brother. 619 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,920 I would never hurt my younger brother ever. 620 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,840 Even though he's a favorite, I would never hurt him ever. 621 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,240 Forget for being loved by your parents, I mean. 622 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,560 This this is the first time ever of me confessing to this. 623 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,320 Yeah, I doubt. I doubt that my father, my 624 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,080 mother or my brother will ever see the video. 625 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,800 My girlfriend will see it, and she might bail on me. 626 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,680 She might bail on me. But we'll see. 627 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,840 We'll see. It's a lot. 628 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,640 It's a lot, Jerry's. There's a confession. 629 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,280 Time will, time will. Tell Josh I think that like get. 630 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,160 Loud of. This. 631 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,760 Don't the switch have to be proficient in eating sous 632 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,200 strumming? Yeah, we do. 633 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,280 But much like whittling and invading Denmark, it's a skill 634 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,840 we all master a young age. But then we tend to not use it 635 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,720 very much. Yeah, because like opening a can 636 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,000 of sous strumming is now actually it actually counts as 637 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,040 aggravated. Assault what? 638 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,120 What is it? What does it mean? 639 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,200 It's fermented. Herring. 640 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,480 Yeah, Fermented. Herring. 641 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,680 It's actually the fermented herring as well. 642 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,160 I. Remember, no, no, not picket 643 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,840 herring. I mean not picket Herring, this 644 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,280 is. The This is fermented. 645 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,680 It smells like shit. Yeah, it's actually illegal to 646 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,120 remember in public. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I bet some 647 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:44,000 of you guys know who brother Alpha Boo says he has the what 648 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,280 are they called? The he used to do the. 649 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,360 Emperor have a. Speech Emperor yeah, Emperor 650 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,280 yeah. He lives in Jabla and I visited 651 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,240 him once. We played all We played a couple 652 00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:01,800 of the of the new Unicramonda games and. 653 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,880 Drunk him is best. Jimmy. 654 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,040 Yeah, go on. Drunk him is best Jimmy. 655 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,240 And during one of those games we visited him during the summer 656 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:17,840 two or three years ago and it smelled horribly. 657 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,720 When its neighbors just opened the box of fermented herring, it 658 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:26,880 smelled like fucking shit. Death, my death. 659 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Yeah, yeah, it was like death and. 660 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,520 Died of the. Yeah, I used to work in like a 661 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,320 fish store and I'm. Trying to find the word for 662 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,120 this. I'm trying to find the word for 663 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,120 this but the only thing I can find is. 664 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,400 It's fucking horrible. Yeah, we have. 665 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,520 Like actually we have. Two houses away, two houses away 666 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,080 from his house and it smelled this fucking horrible. 667 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,360 Do you know, we think there's a Swedish word for, like, the all? 668 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,160 Yeah. Well, yeah. 669 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480 Basically rod and fish, but way worse because, like, there's a 670 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,760 word for the all permeating smell that, like, shuts down all 671 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,320 of your nasal functions, make you feel bad, your eyes water 672 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,400 up, you feel a bit nauseous, and you regret even being around. 673 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:19,360 In Sweden we call that word Denmark this. 674 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,600 Isn't racist this isn't racist. This isn't just like we hate 675 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,880 we're Swedes, we hate Denmark. Denmark hates us. 676 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,600 It's. Like the thing. 677 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,800 The thing is, Danes that I meet, you go. 678 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,040 I go. Danes are Yeah, you go I. 679 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,240 Sorry. And it and it and. 680 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,800 It. We would never, we would never 681 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:49,320 in the face of a Dane say that we love their bear would never, 682 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,560 ever in our lives say, say to the face of a Dane we love your 683 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,720 beer, but we do. I mean, you're heard here. 684 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,760 We love Danish beer, but. Josh, have you ever done? 685 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,880 He said no and Denmark in the same sentence. 686 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,840 I feel kind of handed mute this, mute this, but you'll never hear 687 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,320 us ever saying. I was told this was the same 688 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,920 space you were Dame I. Didn't want to do. 689 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,680 That they were this waiting. But I will say one thing, like 690 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,440 from the Danish people I know, which are, which are great 691 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,640 people like Johannes, and from the By the Skulls podcast, yeah. 692 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,600 Oh, I bet they're great people. Wonderful. 693 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,880 But they're they're they're quite serious. 694 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,960 I know that the the demeanor is quite serious. 695 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,800 Like duck. Yeah, yeah, they. 696 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,520 Are. Dour people, but the Swedes seem 697 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,640 more fun and jovial and more. You know, Swedes are drunk, 698 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,160 beans are not. Beans are like like in in 699 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,320 Denmark, it rains most of the time. 700 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,240 Like when I'm talking to Johannes about it, it fucking 701 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,160 rains and it's cold and it's just bloody shit weather, you 702 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,360 know what I mean? So it it just just lowers their 703 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,320 demeanor down, like, you know, they're just down, you know what 704 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,680 I mean? But you guys seem to be much 705 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,360 more happy and jovial and laughing and we're. 706 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,560 That's. Yeah, yeah, I'm drunk. 707 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,320 And also we're between, we're we're stuck between the Danish, 708 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,760 the the Norwegian and the Danes. We need to like, put the mask 709 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,040 on. Do you know Josh? 710 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,800 You know why? Do you know why they're so 711 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,240 weird? This is actually true that the 712 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:27,720 Danish geographical topography is such that they don't have a 713 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,400 single mountain in Denmark. Oh, it's true. 714 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,000 Like the entire country doesn't have a single mountain because 715 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,120 like, they don't have, they don't have any mountain. 716 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,720 How do we have a country channel on? 717 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,480 How do you not have a country with a single piece of a 718 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,680 mountain on it? You know how you keep pissing 719 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,920 off the Germans? That's how you all your 720 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,320 mountains I. I hope I'm. 721 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,520 I'm pronouncing this right. Zhivago sistra. 722 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,040 I mean, this country starts just right up north above my country. 723 00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:01,080 Yeah, of. Course you pronounce Doctor 724 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,720 Zhivago. Yeah, it's like the book. 725 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,640 Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm drunk, OK, and I pronounce everything 726 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,640 wrong, but yeah. I can see drunk here in like 727 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,920 university bar like of course, and I speak Russian. 728 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,360 I'm a drunk sweet. Duh. 729 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,480 Sweet damn. Yeah. 730 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,680 Yes, goodbye. That's Zimba. 731 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,400 How old is it? I'm drunk. 732 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,640 Yeah. Come on, bro. 733 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,920 Come on. Thank you, thank you. 734 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:31,720 But yeah, the real search drumming community starts. 735 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,920 Right. Just slightly N above my where 736 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,240 where I live. Some people eat sue strumming 737 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,720 where I live and there are fucking abominations and they 738 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:47,880 don't. They don't deserve to live in my 739 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,000 county, but yeah. What? 740 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,800 Sorry, what is this? Is it? 741 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,960 Other fish. It's the firm, Yeah. 742 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,120 Herring. It's basically the herring, 743 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,520 yeah. Yeah, like you make the, you 744 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,280 used to make it by burying it underground and like a storage. 745 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,440 And it has to be birds long enough that, like the decay 746 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,280 process starts and it starts fermenting like an alcohol. 747 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,560 So back in the day, it was the only way to make sure that you 748 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,200 actually had nutritious food during like the dark months of 749 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,080 winter and autumn. Yeah, I mean normal. 750 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,840 It's like normal people would use salt on meat to keep their 751 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,760 meat like eatable. But as Scandinavians, we kept 752 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,000 fermenting like roughing our fucking fish. 753 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,280 But like, you know, it does have it does have an interesting like 754 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,360 nutritional aspect because in the same way, like Josh, you 755 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,600 live in Japan, you know, there's not to the fermented soybeans 756 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,440 and they have. NATO mate, this is it. 757 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,400 Mitto City, the capital. Yeah, I like NATO, particularly 758 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,440 if you have like the mustard on it, they usually get that. 759 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,400 Shit, it's like, terrible. I'm not. 760 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,200 Listen, you have veg, you're from Vegemite country. 761 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,880 I'd be really caught, Really caught. 762 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,760 You cannot be saying that that sort of stuff mate, come on. 763 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,960 Yeah, so like is there because it adds an added protein rich 764 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,840 part of an otherwise deficient diet. 765 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,040 Sushi drumming actually helps with the digestive tract and has 766 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,680 some additional nutritious like protein additions. 767 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,560 But in the modern world, you don't need suck is good, isn't 768 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,400 it? Modern world. 769 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080 But like, if you ever want to know anything about Denmark, 770 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,680 there's this beautiful song from the 1990s. 771 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,520 It's from the educational documentary called Pocahontas. 772 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,680 And the song is called Savages. So when they sing about the 773 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,600 dance, they say savages, savages, barely even human 774 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,960 savages. Savages. 775 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,840 Not like you and me. I think they're hardly people, 776 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000 which means they must be the drums of. 777 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,360 War. They're savages. 778 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,720 Savages. I fucking listened to this song 779 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,600 yesterday on YouTube. What's the fuck, man? 780 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,320 Synchronize definitely. What the hell? 781 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,680 Look, I think. I think 30 minutes ago, 30 782 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:07,560 minutes ago, Josh tried to show pictures of our armies to talk 783 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,000 about our projects. Rather be it refill, refill, 784 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,160 you're going to. Tell us a story starting. 785 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,480 Yes, or now. I remember the first time me and 786 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,440 Nicholas talked about starting a fantasy podcast. 787 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480 We were at a Horace Harris event and me and him were playing 788 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,160 armies. Jimmy wasn't there because as 789 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,280 you should have promised to go, but he flaked at the last 790 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,080 second, which is anybody knows Jimmy's and essentially Java 791 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,280 thing. They don't understand 792 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,880 complicated things like clocks or time or the concept of money. 793 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,200 There are simple, few simple values. 794 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:48,360 So me and Nicholas was like. Everything Krell is doing, it's 795 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,560 like being. Like being married. 796 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,960 So like basically me and Nicholas were playing like 1500 797 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640 points of where hammer horse. There's 4K and we're like 798 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,320 playing, playing. And I'm like, yeah, I shoot you. 799 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,400 And it's like, yeah, I can't. Charge you, I'm a fucking 800 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,520 alcoholic on a Friday morning. He's Swedish, so it's a part of 801 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,960 a culture. Me and Nicholas playing. 802 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,600 And then I was like cash, like Nicholas. 803 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,640 I saw there's like a retro game shop over there where they play 804 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,080 like I think they sell all 400 fancy managers if you're into 805 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,120 that. There's like Warhammer Fantasy, 806 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,760 you say a fantasy game. Well, yes, I do believe I'm 807 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,760 actually going to go buy some stuff. 808 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,960 And I'm like, yes, me too. So basically me and Nicholas 809 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,040 left a crowded event in middle of a game just to like fuck off 810 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:38,080 and run to old discount second hand miniature war game Plaza. 811 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,880 So we went in there and started digging through like old moving 812 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,960 cardboard boxes because they had everything in like boxes and you 813 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,000 pulled up like a sip lock bag and it said like €10 or 814 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,840 whatever. And was anything from like 815 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,240 metallic grave guard from 6th edition to like two hat first of 816 00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,640 the Nagash. So like me and Nicholas kept 817 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,040 digging out miniatures and we must have been in there for like 818 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,840 the better part of an hour. Like time flowed into itself. 819 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,440 It started congealing. We lost track of time. 820 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,080 Like I bombed into someone. I'm like, oh, sorry. 821 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,000 I'm looking for like 6th edition Warhammer fantasy miniatures 822 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,280 like. Oh. 6th edition Warhammer 823 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,360 Fantasy. I play 4th edition Scathan and 824 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,280 look what I found. And he showed me like he had the 825 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,880 4th edition like scathing cardboard cards because he did 826 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,720 cards play 4th edition and I'm like Oh my God 4th edition. 827 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,520 Isn't that essentially Hero hammer? 828 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,160 And something we do from the other part of the store 829 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,040 answered. A nasal voice is actually a 830 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,000 violently unmisunderstood concept that is Hero Hammer. 831 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,080 It's mainly dragon hammer. And like a fourth guy came up 832 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,240 like stuttering in like well actually. 833 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,760 And I think me and Nicholas were in there for an hour and like, I 834 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,360 came out with a fistful of like Warhammer Fantasy Undead 4th to 835 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,320 6th edition. And Nicholas managed to find 836 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,520 like some of the very first Chaos Dwarfs he got like the 837 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,440 bazooka dude and a couple of like the old Byzantine Pope 838 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,440 hats. So we went back to the event and 839 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,040 the guy ran the event, which is a good friend, and on another 840 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,400 podcast of men called The Brandy and Heresy Freddie. 841 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,080 So we came in and Freddie lived in Australia for an awful load 842 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,480 of years, but it's also Swedish, so he says things in Australian 843 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,480 vernacular but with a Swedish accent. 844 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,280 So we came in. It's like, where the fuck if you 845 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,680 can't spin? It's a game going on that I'm 846 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,920 trying to sell the fucking scores mites. 847 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,360 I'm like, oh, we just went to find the fancy stuff. 848 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,520 I know all about the fucking fantasy miniature you're buying 849 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,800 drunk now, but you have to finish the game, don't you? 850 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,360 I'm like, I'm sorry but. Like I believe I won over 851 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,600 Nicholas like an hour ago. Well, well, I don't care about 852 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,480 winning. You have to go to point if I can 853 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,800 skins, don't you find you? I can't yes, yes, yes. 854 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,000 And we went and I'm like click this. 855 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,080 I think I won over. You would like 15 to one. 856 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,440 It's like right wherever you want. 857 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,080 And we have like sat in corners looking at old stripped metal 858 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,240 minis. Jimmy, do you remember when 859 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:55,760 Nicholas was going to do Chaos Wars? 860 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,360 I remember, yeah, Nick, Jimmy muted himself. 861 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,120 John, I think if if you want to move on, we should probably 862 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,440 start looking at the pictures of God of armies like Jimmy's 863 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,840 Wyvern and stuff. Yeah, Jimmy, I think your Jimmy, 864 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,920 your sounds muted, dude. You're not coming. 865 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,880 No. That's how I prefer him. 866 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,520 You're muted. You must have muted yourself. 867 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,720 Or something. I don't know what's going on, 868 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,320 but let Jimmy sort that outlet's go to the Glorious Bastards 869 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,320 section now, where we can see you're wonderful. 870 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,000 Hey, you got a picture of me? That's it. 871 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,280 You'll feel the mail order troll mate, which you're you're faxing 872 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,200 to basically. And Phil was packing your 873 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,520 orders, mate. He was picking and packing your 874 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,960 orders. Packing, Phil, We owe. 875 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,360 This country owes you a debt of gratitude we cannot repay. 876 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,920 Thank you for your service, Phil. 877 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,360 So we've got some epic stuff here now, Yes, go through this 878 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:48,760 mate. What? 879 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,560 What are you doing mate? This is actually the stuff I got 880 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,120 way back in 2015 when I bought it by the bucket loads. 881 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,320 So what you can see to write is the old Imperial robots which 882 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,440 later on become the dreadnoughts. 883 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,480 These are the Rogue Trader RTB 01 robots that you can see and 884 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,320 in the middle you have what used to be like a dreadnought command 885 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,640 section. He used to come with a banner 886 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,160 and everything, but if you look at him in the key night viewer 887 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,080 will notice that in fact, what you do get is the Imperial 888 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,720 robots and then initial outcast of the very first dreadnought 889 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,400 area, least in fact we call him the eggnog. 890 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,160 The guy in the middle to the left you will see a command 891 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,040 section with a library in the middle and another two plates of 892 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,280 infantry. Then unfortunately what you're 893 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,360 seeing are the newer models for what's called as the Jonas 894 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,880 imperialists. They're slightly bigger in cast, 895 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,520 but what that means is that actually with the upscaling of 896 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,000 the vehicles, the infantry actually look like you get 10 897 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,160 into Rhino. You also have some craters tank, 898 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,200 which is a new thing, and I painted all of them in the Tommy 899 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,640 a Red Classical Red Thousand Sun scheme because I really like 900 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,520 doing metallic schemes. I guess I. 901 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,200 Mean, they look good, dude. I mean, I really like all of 902 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,000 these, these original dreadnoughts from like Space 903 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,120 Crusader, like that design. Yeah, they're fucking awesome. 904 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,120 Yeah, they are. They are. 905 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,240 Do you play Epic at all, Josh? Epic man, I like epic dude. 906 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:13,200 It was my first game man. Like from apart from fantasy, I 907 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,760 couldn't ever afford fantasy. So I played Epic Space Queen 908 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,440 like solidly every weekend with Chris. 909 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,360 Every every every weekend we're playing. 910 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,360 Like I was playing chaos, he was playing Orcs or Elder. 911 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,840 It's my favorite all time game. Then I have something in here 912 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,720 that you might like. It is the original Metallic 913 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,680 Reaver Titan. Oh. 914 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,800 I got it for like 15 kroners or something, it's hard to see 915 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,400 here. Rastafarian or what? 916 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,040 That's. Dude, that's super cheap. 917 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,360 Yeah, like I got it because the guy only had the pieces, so I'd 918 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,840 like to find the pieces in 15 boxes, but I got them on here. 919 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,440 I also have like one of their very first metallic Knights in 920 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,440 here. I like a bracelet too mate. 921 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,360 That's. Cool. 922 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,720 Oh, thanks. My daughter made it for me. 923 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,680 So when I go to the gym in the morning, even if I by myself, I 924 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,400 don't have to be alone. Yeah, she's 4, so you know. 925 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,320 Oh. That's nice. 926 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,520 She has a complete understanding. 927 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:18,040 This is my Malcador tank. This is from like I think a 2002 928 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,520 cast that they did entirely in resin. 929 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,160 It's for my Siege of Racks campaign. 930 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,200 We're playing the old Imperial armor books. 931 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:29,080 So I think this Imperial Army armor 789 really sometime in the 932 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,000 early 2000s. So this is the racks renegade 933 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,040 militia. Basically it's an entire 934 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,000 campaign book about an armor world rising in rebellion 935 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,200 against Emperor. So they have the entire like 936 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,320 line of basically, I guess you could call them Chaos Imperial 937 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,360 Guard if you want to like be read reductionist. 938 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,040 And for this one, I experimented a lot with like oils, which you 939 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,680 could do in the older books for fortune mouse class and a bunch 940 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,080 of pigments for the tracks. I'm actually kind of happy with 941 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,040 the way this turned out, which I'm trying to stay in a way 942 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,920 without sounding smuggler than I usually do. 943 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:03,600 But if you see there's a bunch of decals and then I tried to 944 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,160 hit the fine line with in shipping it a lot and putting 945 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,400 oils, But sure, still making sure that you can see the 946 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,120 majority of the decals. It says five O 1 because my 947 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,560 entire armoured company is the 500 and fighting first. 948 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,600 Nice, that's good. I think it's a really nice solid 949 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,840 paint job because when I you know, with with with weathering 950 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,080 and that kind of thing, you've got a, you've got a fine line 951 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,320 between it looking like complete shit, like it's covered in or 952 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,240 it's actually, you know, like a realistic kind of weathering 953 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,080 job. So I think you did a really nice 954 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,040 job in that one actually. Well, it's like a fine thanks 955 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,200 your entire right, because you could either use weathering one 956 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,160 a few ways. The first one is to cover up a 957 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,840 bad paint or cast job, which is fully acceptable. 958 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,560 The second one is just going crazy because then you're not 959 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,800 going to see anything of what you did in previous stages. 960 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,400 And the third one is basically accentuating what you have 961 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,000 without trying to drown out what's there. 962 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,640 Because if you have a good model, which the macro tank and 963 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,800 it weighs like a kilo, if you hold it in your hand, it's a 964 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,000 good exercise. What you want to do is 965 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,000 accentuate like the rivets and the tranks and just the 966 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,280 indenture details. No, I think you do a solid job. 967 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,400 This was really nice. Very, very. 968 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,000 Thanks, it means a lot coming for people like you and you me. 969 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,800 This is for Adeptus Titanicus which is the mini game which I 970 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,880 would recommend as stellar miniatures on this one. 971 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,240 This is sort of where my ambition overreached my common 972 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:28,520 sense because if you look at the Warhound Titan in the left hand 973 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,360 corner and the Reaver Titan behind them. 974 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,320 I want to do marbling on the Carapus and details. 975 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,360 So basically half of all the armor plates I had I did 976 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,680 marbling on. The issue was the marbling and 977 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,200 the metallic blue did complement each other. 978 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,400 However you can barely see it towards the bottom model because 979 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,120 I need to do a lot of dust pigment. 980 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,560 Also for the reaver Titan I want to show that they have some 981 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,560 types in mechanicum so they have mechanic in red for the weapon 982 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,880 systems themselves. But on the main corpus, as well 983 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,560 as what we can only call the crotch plates and the toe 984 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,560 plates, we have marbling and blue. 985 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,960 So these are going to work to fight next to my father and 986 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,720 sons. And it's from one of the Horse 987 00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,200 Heresy books that they actually have a Titan house that fought 988 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,600 alongside them that. Was really good. 989 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,320 If you're doing transfers and you want to use microsets, 990 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,080 Microsoft do it because it allows actually the decal itself 991 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,960 to mold itself around the rounded surface of a pauldron. 992 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,840 Yes, I've actually started learning more about decals 993 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,040 because I never really used them in the 90s. 994 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,040 And then I think progressively I started doing freehand a lot, 995 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,120 freehand a lot more. So now I'm sort of, you know, 996 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,240 not perfect, but I'm pretty proficient at doing like, you 997 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:42,480 know, certain designs and that kind of thing, like freehand. 998 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,880 But yeah, obviously for like if you're going to do like 15 Blood 999 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,040 Angel insignias on shoulder pads, you want decals and you 1000 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,920 want them to look really nice and perfect. 1001 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,640 So yeah, there's a bit of an art behind decals now, I think, you 1002 00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,000 know, now in the modern age, you have all these kind of additives 1003 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,400 to add to them, to soften them and bend them and that kind of 1004 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,040 thing. Like your freehand is insane. 1005 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,360 Like I've seen it looks amazing. I've done it so many times and 1006 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,120 I've been for years and years, like all my black, all my Dark 1007 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,560 Angels had all the insane. I didn't have decals because 1008 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:18,880 when the, when the plastics first came out for, for sorry 1009 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,440 for the terminators, there were decals. 1010 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,480 You didn't get a decal sheet, so everything had to be done 1011 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,560 freehand. So I did all, all the every 1012 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,120 single and seeing that all in freehand. 1013 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,120 So it was a good nice sort of learning experience doing that. 1014 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,880 But here we go. We've got Jimmy's project now, 1015 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,920 which is the Wyman. It's the classic world of Wyman 1016 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,440 with the shaman on top there. But these wings, Jimmy, which 1017 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,760 wings did you use for this, mate? 1018 00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:46,720 Jimmy, you're still you're still not coming through buddy Audio, 1019 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:47,280 can you? Hear me now? 1020 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,480 Yes. Can you hear me now? 1021 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,320 Yeah, yeah. Can you hear me good? 1022 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:58,480 Good so the wings are from the I think it's either it's late 7th 1023 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:05,280 or early or rather 8th edition black dragon wings. 1024 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:11,080 So that's where the wings come from it's on a Sharif base it's 1025 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,120 the more older shaman on org wagon. 1026 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:22,240 So what I did here is I wanted bigger wings because the old 1027 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:29,520 wings were quite small. And so I just added bigger wings 1028 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:35,400 and sculpted the scales to make them more mesh in with each 1029 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,360 other. Yeah, yeah. 1030 00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:42,480 Just can't wait to paint the model. 1031 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:49,600 Yeah, yeah. I I almost have the my almost 1032 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:55,360 have my 20. I think it's 20, yeah, 20 man 1033 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,640 unit of the Kev Adams or sculpts. 1034 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:04,080 It's a mix of the big guns and the and the orc boys that he 1035 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:09,000 made. So can't wait just to finish 1036 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:15,440 these guys up. I think I have five guys fully, 1037 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:21,840 completely painted and there's about 1515 of them have them 1038 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,200 here. You are really fucking pissed, 1039 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,280 baby. Yeah, I'm I'm fucking pissed. 1040 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,640 I'm fucking pissed. But fifteen of the guys almost, 1041 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:39,480 almost just yeah. So we see on the screen now is 1042 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,720 the two two normal voice finished. 1043 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:50,080 So I'm, I'm doing all the Shields free hand, which is 1044 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,240 super fun, but also challenging as fuck. 1045 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,480 I need to make yeah, because I need to make all the Shields 1046 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:05,880 different, which is like I said, it's at least challenging. 1047 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,240 Yeah. Anything. 1048 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,240 Yeah. Can I say something about this 1049 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,760 you mean? So what I want to say about this 1050 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:20,520 is it's a bit, if you guys know what slap shop is, do you know 1051 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,280 about about the slap shop? Paid slap shop? 1052 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,280 Yeah. So, yeah. 1053 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:34,720 So I, I primed these guys black followed with a 45° of what is 1054 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:40,560 called this greasier. Yeah, sentence all 45° of 1055 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,640 greasier. And then I go around with the 1056 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:52,840 let's see here I have the the skin is Militarum green followed 1057 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:59,080 with built on green, which is a wash on all the creases around 1058 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:04,040 the skin. Yeah, the game Air because I 1059 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:10,120 love the air paint range because it's it's it's, let's say it's 1060 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:17,920 quite watery, it's creamy. So I do a goblet green 1061 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,920 highlight. Creamy. 1062 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,160 Yeah, it's creamy. It's creamy. 1063 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,920 It's like, it's like, we can do this. 1064 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,200 You can say it is Swedish and I'll translate it for you if 1065 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,680 that helps. Nah Nah, that's fine. 1066 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,240 It's fine. Also there's a screamer skull 1067 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,920 highlight which would be the what would the old skull? 1068 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,920 I don't remember the old paint range but the screaming skull 1069 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,280 highlight like the the edges of the muscles. 1070 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:55,360 Then I do a flesh glaze on all the knuckles, ear tips, lips, 1071 00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,240 cheeks, eyebrows, elbows and knees with the contrast medium 1072 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,840 with the P3. This is an old range of paint 1073 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,440 range P3 medium flesh on all the. 1074 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:16,640 All the uprised edges and then I do a very, very washed down 1075 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,200 Imperial Fist which is a contrast paint range on all the 1076 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,080 green areas. So it's like fits in with all 1077 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:35,000 the greens. The iron I paint with, it's an 1078 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,800 air black. It's like a very watered down 1079 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:45,320 black paint with air silver. I think these are, let's see 1080 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,160 here, I don't have them here, but I think they're army paints 1081 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:56,160 arranged the water down. So I go with a very dark irons 1082 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:03,800 base and I just edge highlight all the all the edges with the 1083 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,720 same air silver, which is a very bright silver. 1084 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:14,560 And then I add the rust of the what's called The Dirty down 1085 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,000 rust. I don't know the paint range to 1086 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,160 be honest. It's like it's like a 1087 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,120 Washington. It's it's so I just added down 1088 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,520 on all the recesses, add some water to bring out the effect of 1089 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:36,080 the rust and if you look carefully on the pictures on the 1090 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,360 screen. Yeah. 1091 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,640 There's on all the recesses, all the recesses, there's rust. 1092 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:49,120 Otherwise it's just like the black iron feel that you get 1093 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,960 from like, well, burnt iron. Yeah. 1094 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,800 Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to get all the old snake back 1095 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:05,240 leather feel on all leather. There's not much, there's not 1096 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,640 much leather seen on these guys because the belts are on the 1097 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:15,200 back of the guys. So but yeah, get the you get the 1098 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,120 feel. I just got to say something 1099 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,080 about these like it's like drowning a citrus fruit. 1100 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,760 It's a sublime because. Thanks. 1101 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,560 Thanks. It's. 1102 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,400 It's sublime. Drowning a citrus fruit. 1103 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,960 Sublime. Sorry, weird. 1104 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,960 And there's so much care and love that's gone into this. 1105 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,960 They just look amazing. Jimmy, I don't think I've told 1106 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,640 you they're so good looking. All the Shields and the banners 1107 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:44,040 are going to be free handed using like 3rd to 4th edition 1108 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,560 feel on the miniatures. I mean, this whole unit is going 1109 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,000 to be 4th edition miniatures. I want to I want to bring some 1110 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,400 of the 3rd edition feel back to them. 1111 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,440 Yeah, and I think, I think I love that banner, man. 1112 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,840 Fucking hell. That's yeah it. 1113 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,040 Looks insanely good. Yeah, thanks. 1114 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:06,440 I love it. Yeah. 1115 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,960 Really nice, man. I love, I love that shield. 1116 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,480 Those Shields are just beautiful. 1117 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,320 They've got that little deep Crimson red, but then they've 1118 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,880 got the face like where it's got that sort of illumination where 1119 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,080 right on the aspects of the eyes and around the the brows and the 1120 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,640 lips and that kind of thing. That's really nice and 1121 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,720 highlighted. But the rest is sort of recessed 1122 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,800 back into shadow, which is really nice. 1123 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,720 I really like that. Thanks. 1124 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,800 Thanks. So sorry to all the listeners 1125 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,160 and watchers who are watching this. 1126 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:42,200 I'm it's early, I haven't had a couple of drinks, but. 1127 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,680 The term free sheets, the wind come to mind. 1128 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,760 Jimmy. Yeah. 1129 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,320 I mean crow. You got to start drinking next 1130 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,760 time with this mate, because I'd love to see that we're seeing 1131 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:54,280 you sober. I. 1132 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,560 I already started. You think this was just coffee? 1133 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,320 I have made some sort of. Whiskey in here from the start. 1134 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,040 It's just like unlike Jimmy, I spent most of my like formative 1135 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,560 years working in the bar and the restaurant industry, which, as 1136 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,560 anyone can tell you, is a good way to get a cast Irons gullet. 1137 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,600 I rarely drink beer, but I do drink pure Jimmy seen it usually 1138 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:23,800 has to drink vodka. Like I drink like drinks like 1139 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,440 I'll make a half vodka, half Red Bull and there's keep pouring 1140 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,560 Red Bull in for a while because like that's how we raised. 1141 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,360 No, like Jimmy's works are a great throwback to like the 1142 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,800 great the golden days. And I do feel humbled sitting 1143 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,600 here with the both of you because you're both amazing 1144 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,680 painters and I'm glad to be around for the ride. 1145 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,720 I somehow just got into doing stuff like military modeling 1146 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,800 because I like doing like old school vehicle vicular tanks. 1147 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,600 I like the old imperial armor but you guys are like true 1148 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,600 artisans and skillful artists when it comes to like doing the 1149 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,760 golden days use of heavy metal. And like I don't know if I ever 1150 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,520 told you guys and Jim is drunk so you'll forget it anyway. 1151 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,120 But like your guy your work is inspirational and exceptional. 1152 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,880 Well done. Thanks mate, like I said your 1153 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,360 your Reba Titans and your epic stuff. 1154 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,120 It looks bloody amazingly honestly. 1155 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,800 No thanks. Really good I. 1156 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,560 Think it's the best stuff you've ever painted I've seen that 1157 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,040 you've had no thanks. The other thing is really, 1158 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,480 really good, mate. Honestly, those, those 1159 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,200 especially the Titans, the, the, the neatness and the transitions 1160 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,760 of the colors and everything, the transfers and the weathering 1161 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,840 you've done the, that now that stippling effect you did for 1162 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,840 the, the armour plates. That's really hard to do. 1163 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,280 That's really hard to pull off. And I think he did a really 1164 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,640 better job. I think he did it better than I, 1165 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,560 I can do because I, I, I, I tried it and it's bloody really 1166 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,040 hard. So I think he did a really nice 1167 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,560 job on it so. I actually came up with a sheet 1168 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,520 on how to do it a couple of weeks back and I'll show you how 1169 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,640 to do it. As long as you haven't, I'll 1170 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,320 show you, see. I did it by by bloody trial and 1171 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,720 error mate. I need that CHEAT SHEET now. 1172 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,480 Give me the CHEAT SHEET. And like Jimmy, the game is 1173 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,840 drunk, so we should probably ask him what he really thinks about 1174 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,520 a bunch of people in the gaming industry, no? 1175 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:07,240 No, don't, don't. Jimmy, what do you really think 1176 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,560 about Math Ward's impact in Warhammer Fantasy? 1177 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:15,520 Be frank, Be frank. Yeah, that's Jimmy. 1178 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,400 PP Tree, isn't that? Isn't that private to kill this 1179 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,320 game? Yeah. 1180 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,280 It is. It is. 1181 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,920 That's a good segue. What what do you guys take? 1182 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,520 Like I haven't listened to listen to last podcast you did, 1183 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,080 I can't remember, but obviously you must have talked about the 1184 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,240 old world. I know, I know. 1185 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,080 It's been sort of building up over the last. 1186 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,480 Was it 4 years now, three or four years now when it's 1187 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,720 becoming to the conception to now realization, when they've 1188 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,560 actually released it now into the world. 1189 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,800 What do you guys take on it? What do you what do you guys 1190 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:42,960 think about? It. 1191 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,160 I fucking love it. I mean, for, for a modern game, 1192 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,400 for a good modern game, it brings all the all the good 1193 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,680 aspects of all the old games into one game, right? 1194 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,760 And I, and I just love it for it. 1195 01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,640 I just love it. Oh, that's good man. 1196 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,240 I'm glad you're really happy about it, girl. 1197 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,680 What do you think, man? I played it, I've only had like 1198 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,200 two games in so far and I've had a lot of fun with it. 1199 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,240 Like every army feels different. It has a distinctual feel to all 1200 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,120 of it, like it's a compromise between the best of 6th and 8th. 1201 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,920 The one thing I miss, and this is just my personal pet peeve 1202 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,400 and it's going to be so petty and granular, I miss having dice 1203 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,560 for magic. So now in the old world, it's 1204 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,800 kind of like, OK, I have a spell and I need this number, and I 1205 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,160 roll the two dice and I add my power level to it and I get to 1206 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,920 succeed. And then maybe you have one 1207 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,000 dispel to cast during the game. Is this kind of really 1208 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,520 disrupting what the magic phase is in this new edition? 1209 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,600 Is it kind of balanced? Is it unbalanced? 1210 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,360 It is balanced because now you do magic in different phases. 1211 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,200 Like some of them go off in the movement phase. 1212 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,640 So I'm going to go off in the shooting phase and go, some go 1213 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,560 off and like in the close combat phase and like dispelling has 1214 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,360 been reduced. But like, but like now you only 1215 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,800 have like a characteristic test. You have your leadership and you 1216 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,800 roll over it and then you add. But for me, you know, 4th 1217 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,040 edition is the ultimate magic edition of Warhammer and I don't 1218 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,160 know if you if you ever experienced 4th edition or 1219 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,640 Warhammer Warhammer Renaissance. I haven't played it. 1220 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,279 I've read the rules but I've never played it. 1221 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:21,359 I've played 4th edition at 5th edition as is and like the cards 1222 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:24,160 and the dice to me have the same feeling because it's something 1223 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,920 visual and it's a meta game, so like it's incredible. 1224 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,200 It feels good just holding the magic cards and magic items. 1225 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:34,560 OK, So Nick says it's not really like Furt at all, OK? 1226 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,840 So. Because I've never played Furted 1227 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,560 so well. I'll never played third edition 1228 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,240 too. And me and Nick, Nick actually, 1229 01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:44,160 Nick's actually in Japan here. He's my good friends who plays 1230 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,040 One Raisins with me and a few other guys here and he organizes 1231 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,040 events here. So I think we are talking about 1232 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,399 playing third edition at some point. 1233 01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:53,960 So I really want to experience that edition for the first time 1234 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,200 in my life. I've I've sort of played it. 1235 01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:59,160 This is my edition when I got into Warhammer. 1236 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,720 This is the, this is the era where third edition was actually 1237 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,080 prevalent then and they sold the books and stuff like that. 1238 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,240 But I never actually got it to the table, so to speak. 1239 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,800 We did it in an experimental game where we had like all the 1240 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,359 minutes that we had on the on the floor because it was like 4 1241 01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:17,640 hammer back then. There were no tables, there were 1242 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,000 no grass flocked, you know, beautiful kind of scene boards 1243 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,120 or anything like that, which is like basically like on the floor 1244 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:26,399 of your living room on that kind of stuff. 1245 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,760 When you have like a green bedspread or like a sheet and 1246 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,840 you have to put it on like a piece of books and stuff. 1247 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,680 Yeah, you can do like a felt sheet or whatever to make up for 1248 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:40,160 your your battlefield. So what does it say here? 1249 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,640 More like Kings of War now. OK, so that's what it's like. 1250 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,880 OK, gotcha. I don't believe that. 1251 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,600 So I can't really say for the Kings of War community what 1252 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,840 that's like, but magic's basically like that in the old 1253 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,600 world. But yeah, I mean, you know, 1254 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,960 obviously it's going to take some influences from old, from 1255 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,640 the older editions and then some from modern games now from rank 1256 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,760 playing modern games as well to make up this old world game. 1257 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,680 But I'm, I'm really glad that you guys are playing it and 1258 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,280 enjoying it. So that's great. 1259 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,080 And like I said, you know, before, like, you know, I, I 1260 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:18,520 don't think I'll ever get to play it as much, if ever, but 1261 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,880 I'm just happy that if everyone's really excited about 1262 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,960 the old world and they're buying miniatures and they're painting 1263 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,040 models and that's what it's really all about, you know, 1264 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,880 whatever addition you're into, I mean, it's, it's just nice that 1265 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,640 we're enjoying this hobby together. 1266 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,680 So that's good. Yeah. 1267 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,920 I mean all hobbies good hobby. It's like I might not agree with 1268 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,600 you speak more as a system, but like it doesn't mean I'm allowed 1269 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,440 to track to them having fun. It doesn't like it's not like 1270 01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:46,120 the day age of Sigma was released like Jack booted GW 1271 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,680 people like a rabbit. Fans broke down my door and 1272 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,560 confiscated on my square bases start beating with nightsticks. 1273 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:57,560 I mean, that happens man. Stop, stop having found the 1274 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,400 wrong Sir, just right here the nightstick. 1275 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,360 The way I look at the guys is like if if people are willing to 1276 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,800 invest the time in, in buying and painting these things and 1277 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,400 assembling them, putting on this table and actually playing with 1278 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,640 the game with another person. I mean, you know, video games, 1279 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,520 as we talked about earlier, is just the easy solution. 1280 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,400 Isn't it used by the game? You just download it or 1281 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,680 whatever, You just play it and that's it. 1282 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,080 It's all done for you. There's no preparation. 1283 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,640 There's no work involved in getting that onto the table. 1284 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,640 It's like it's just done everything for you. 1285 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,200 You know what I mean? You get a history of 1286 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,760 qualification, whereas Warhammer's a massive 1287 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,640 investment. You know, it's, it's years and 1288 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,160 years in the making. And when you get to the table, 1289 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,640 it's like that gratification of like, yeah, I did this. 1290 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,680 I painted this bloody army and it's awesome. 1291 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,080 And I love it when I build up the units, the theme, the the 1292 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,920 names of the characters, the names of the regiments even. 1293 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,000 And you know, I'm playing this amazing game with my friend and 1294 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,480 I'm rolling dice and having fun, having a few beers and just, you 1295 01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:54,960 know, just enjoying it and having a laugh. 1296 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,160 Give us a social aspect to it, like there's a creative aspect 1297 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,920 and a social aspect and a gaming aspect to get a strategic part 1298 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,000 in there too. And if you're with Warhammer, 1299 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,640 I've people have played with since like high school and like 1300 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,560 some of them don't have finished armies and it's the same army 1301 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,560 they ran back when we ran into high school. 1302 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,080 And I'm like, why don't just paint your freaking shit? 1303 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,920 And they're like, I don't enjoy painting. 1304 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,440 And I'm like, OK, like they do enjoy the other parts of the 1305 01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:20,800 hobby. And I suppose that's the 1306 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,280 difference. You can't pick up a video game 1307 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,960 be like, I like everything except for pushing the buddies 1308 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,920 under controller or like I like the plot but not the game. 1309 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:29,480 Then you can just pick up another game. 1310 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,760 With Warhammer, there's a social aspect and like some people 1311 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,960 struggle with the social skills and aspect of Warhammer because 1312 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,000 it doesn't differ and require something different from like 1313 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,880 video games. But the sheer passion and joy, 1314 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,120 you can see people playing it and just hanging out. 1315 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:50,200 And I think if you're a bit more introverted, like, I am sorry, 1316 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,720 no, if you're introverted like it's a good way to challenge 1317 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,400 yourself because you do get out there, but it's something you're 1318 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,120 passionate with. So you will have like a shared 1319 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,040 point. Really, honestly, I mean, it's 1320 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,160 great to have you both on at the same time. 1321 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:07,000 I love you both. I think the the podcast is a 1322 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,200 fantastic listen and I think anybody who hasn't listened to 1323 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,440 the Old World podcast, you should go and check it out. 1324 01:13:13,480 --> 01:13:16,280 You know, just just put in your in your search browser in the in 1325 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,240 the whatever bloody podcast thing you're using or go and 1326 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:21,880 check out the links in the show description. 1327 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,160 Go and check it out. Click on that. 1328 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,240 Get to the old world podcast, old world lease podcast and 1329 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,480 check it out because it's awesome. 1330 01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:29,040 You talk about lots of different things. 1331 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,840 You have a big hobby chat about what's happening now, revelant 1332 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,560 this, you know to today, what's coming out, what leases, what 1333 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,080 molds you can use six position games or whatever. 1334 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,680 And I'm just happy that you guys can come on and have a chat and 1335 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,240 we have a bloody good laugh and a few drinks at the same time. 1336 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,680 So cheers guys. Thank you. 1337 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:49,040 Yeah, and thanks very much. I'm like a lot of fun. 1338 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,280 Same same. And I think thank you and 1339 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,320 girlfriends, OK, Thank you very much for giving you time up for 1340 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,080 this meeting all. Right. 1341 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,560 And keeping them apart from each other? 1342 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:58,760 Absolutely. Absolutely.