1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,440 Hey, how you going, Scott? Hey, Joshua, how you doing? 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:12,200 You sounding a lot better. Great, awesome man. 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,520 Yeah, good to have you back on, mate. 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,280 Oh, thank you. Thanks for for inviting me on. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,320 I really appreciate it. Yeah. 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,160 How's your day going? Yeah, it's been a very rainy, 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,680 wet day, but everything seems to be fine. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,520 I'm getting some commissions almost complete now, which is 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,360 great, and starting on another article for the here Hammer 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,800 fanzine. Yeah, crack on with some other 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,480 stuff today. Now I'll finish off my battle 12 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,440 report for Man O War. That's on the editor at the 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,560 moment and it's almost done. I'm just doing all the voice 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,160 over work now for that, so when that's finished I'll get it 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,160 uploaded tonight so people can enjoy that on their Friday and 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,560 over the weekend. That'll be wonderful. 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,680 I don't know. You have to watch it. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,080 Yeah, yeah, I will. I'll watch it. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,560 With me in control of anything like an army or a fleet or 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,040 whatever, you know, you just know something, something's 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,400 going to go awry. So. 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,360 But but the time they listen to this interview though it, it'd 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,840 probably be well and truly up. And people have been watching 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,320 it, probably been watching the Second Battle Report, no doubt, 25 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:23,520 but great. Yeah, but me, it's been really 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,120 fun. How about you? 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,480 What have you been up to lately mate? 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Yeah, so that's hobby wise. I've so I've got this 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,320 interesting unit that I'm converting, converting over to 30 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:38,400 Spearman. It's an it's a unit of kind of 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:44,080 later edition Empire plastics. I think it's just the, what are 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,960 they called Empire soldiers, something along those those 33 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:49,040 lines. But so I got the these in a 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,120 collection. They're a little bit, they were 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,720 a little bit unusual. They are painted up in the 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,840 northern colors, but every this whole unit of maybe 40 soldiers 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,920 was they're all carrying sides and so. 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Sides, OK, that's. Weird. 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,479 Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty strange. 40 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:11,080 So I'm actually converting them over to Spearman because I, I 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,560 intend to sell them. But, you know, it's kind of an 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,240 unusual. I don't think there's much 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,960 demand for a, a northern army, a unit. 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,920 Everyone's carrying a side. I didn't know they could. 45 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,120 I didn't think they could. Oh, I suppose maybe, yeah, maybe 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,320 later on. Well, I'm sort of thinking about 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Brutonians, but I know that the peasant class warriors could 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,320 take probably a side like a farming equipment type of thing. 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,480 But the Empire, I've never heard of them taking a side and I I 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,720 suppose it's just like A2 handed kind of two handed weapon I 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,800 guess could. Be but they are maybe Spears. 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Yeah, I imagine, you know, maybe I was trying to figure out like 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,360 what this person had intended on maybe like a a fanatical 54 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:59,160 followers of more, you know, something along those lines. 55 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:02,240 You know, just happened to live in in New Orleans. 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,600 So I'm not sure. So anyway, that's that's kind of 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,480 what I've been working on hobby wise. 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Nice mate, that's good. You've got it. 59 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:13,520 You've got quite an unusual hobby because as we're going to 60 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,080 get alluded to later, but you're, you're in fact a, a very 61 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,560 busy man buying and, and well, not in the sense of collecting, 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,040 but buying lots of miniatures in order to categorize them, 63 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,840 photograph them and then put them onto your website, which 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,480 I'm looking at right now. And some amazing looking empire 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,080 models have popped up here for the my favorite unit, the 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Knights of the Blazing Sun. And I'm talking of course, about 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Black Arrow minis. It's a website to for people to 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,960 go and collect and buy their long lost or long sought after 69 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,200 models for not only Warhammer, but a whole host of different 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,320 ranges. So yeah, mate. 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,480 So would you like to share a little bit about that initially 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,840 maybe? Sure, sure. 73 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:12,400 So, yeah, I'd say I got back into the hobby about, I'd say 74 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:19,399 maybe three years ago and, and I have AI have a side business 75 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:21,360 like, well, I kind of had two side businesses. 76 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,000 Like one of them should turn into a main, the main business. 77 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,320 But I, I have another business doing timber framing and with 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,520 this business, you know, you know, I love history and I like 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,040 working with my hands. So I got into timber framing and 80 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,200 mostly as a timber frame designer, but later as I started 81 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,160 my own company and I would just have a lot some time between 82 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,440 those projects and I just need thought me and I just need 83 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,800 something else where it's kind of on a much smaller scale to 84 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,600 kind of fill in the gaps between projects that I could still I 85 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,640 could earn money. And I kind of, I thought, man, 86 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,440 if I could just sell miniatures, that would be kind of like a 87 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,760 dream job. So, so I, I, I first thought, 88 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:18,840 you know, maybe I could have an online store and, and, you know, 89 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:22,120 buy new products from a wholesaler and resell those. 90 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,760 But you know what, that's kind of, that's kind of in the back 91 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,240 of my mind. And, and then I stumbled upon 92 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:38,040 this, this ad on Facebook marketplace and it was a guy 93 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,200 advertising this, there are some pretty bad pictures, but it's 94 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,120 basically an entire room like stack full of boxes of 95 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,480 miniatures. And he was kind of listing off 96 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,840 some, you know, Games Workshop and, and a few different things. 97 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,960 And the asking price was pretty reasonable. 98 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,200 So I had a I got really excited. I was visiting my sister at the 99 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:08,320 time in St. Louis, MO and this ad was, I 100 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,480 mean, this was someone who's who lives hours away down in 101 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Tennessee. And it's probably, I think it 102 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,200 was maybe a 5 hour drive. But yeah, I actually text 103 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,840 message this guy middle of the night and he actually messaged 104 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:25,840 me back and he said, you know, I'm opening up it up for people 105 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:27,120 to come and take a look tomorrow. 106 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,240 And I, I was so excited I couldn't sleep that night and I, 107 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,960 and I drove like that five hours left at like 6:00 AM in the in 108 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,360 the morning and, and just drove straight there and and I, and I, 109 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,880 yeah, it was a great deal. So I bought that and that was 110 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,680 that was really what kicked off this business, this massive 111 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,440 collection. It was actually yeah, this a man 112 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:58,360 who had kind of a sad story. He is an an older man who I 113 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:04,200 think he had planned on maybe starting a a hobby store in his 114 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,200 retirement and and just kept buying all these things and 115 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:13,200 filling up his house was with different products and and I we 116 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,080 later found out they also had a storage unit as well. 117 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,040 But but he had actually gotten dementia sadly. 118 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,920 And so his wife was at home alone with all these miniatures. 119 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,840 And I had actually bought it from a an insurance claims 120 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,480 company who who did work on her house and she didn't have a way 121 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,360 to pay for everything. And she would actually, she had 122 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,800 actually traded all these miniatures for work on her 123 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,240 house. And that's who I actually bought 124 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,440 these from. And so kind of a sad, sad story, 125 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,320 but kind of also a lesson lesson for all of us collectors. 126 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,000 You know, it's like, make a plan. 127 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,280 Yeah. What to do with all these 128 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,000 miniatures? Yeah, yeah, I know that there 129 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 are a lot of us out out there who actually do have quite 130 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,000 substantial collections. So that that that really 131 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,680 launched this, this, this business. 132 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Since then, I, you know, like it's, it's kind of a fun, it's 133 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,560 actually a hobby, definitely a hobby within the hobby to, to 134 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,320 kind of be on the lookout for, for larger collections that 135 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,640 people are selling off and trying to get a good deal. 136 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,960 And then it's a lot of work though, you know, I'm still 137 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,000 working through that first collection that I bought. 138 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,240 But but he was, he was very, he was very much into epic. 139 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,320 Let's see, Warhammer Fantasy and they had a lot of different like 140 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,280 older Ralph Partha Bliss still in the blisters. 141 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,320 A lot of different stuff. More probably most of what you 142 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,840 see on my site came from that first purchase. 143 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:52,400 So, yeah, so that's kind of how I got started in this, but yeah. 144 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,360 Yeah, it's quite the rabbit hole mate, because yeah, I'm just 145 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,840 going through page after page after page on your website of 146 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,440 just the Empire alone. So yeah, it's it's quite a lot 147 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,160 of work to do that, to photograph it. 148 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,760 Obviously they have a website to host it and then to, you know, 149 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,360 to itemize everything with some kind of serial number and then, 150 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,360 you know, process all of that and then have it available on on 151 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:22,960 your website and I think on eBay as well. 152 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:25,560 That's right. Yes, yes. 153 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,680 So, So what I do actually, if anyone out there is interested 154 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:35,520 in doing something like this, really eBay is, is kind of your 155 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,640 only option. I have them on my own website, 156 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,640 but I try to direct, you know, people who buy things from eBay 157 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,320 off of me. I try to direct them to my 158 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,960 website. And there there is, there are 159 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,000 some companies out there, some some kind of third party 160 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,360 websites, companies where you can actually link your web, a 161 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,280 web store to eBay. And that's what I do. 162 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 And I actually have it just set up so that it automatically 163 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,320 takes 20% off of whatever the price is on eBay. 164 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,040 It's it's what my price on the store is 20% off of that. 165 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,880 So, you know, I try, you know, I'm the collector too. 166 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,800 So I try to, you know, help out other collectors that's still 167 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,560 still trying to keep the business going, you know, got to 168 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:24,040 make some money to, to keep, to keep buying more to yeah, to 169 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,480 keep it going. So absolutely. 170 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,640 So, but you see you mentioned you, you got back to the hobby 171 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:35,200 about 3 years ago, but before, before that you were primarily a 172 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,640 role like a board gamer mostly. Yeah. 173 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,760 So that's right. So I was actually living in 174 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:49,200 Korea, South Korea, and my wife's Korean and I had lived 175 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,640 there for six years and all three of our kids were born in 176 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,040 there. And, you know, when I was a 177 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,880 single guy, I could kind of get away with, you know, playing 178 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 some video games at night. And, you know, it's kind of like 179 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,080 that was kind of my hobby in Korea. 180 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,880 And after having my, our first kid, that that just wasn't going 181 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:17,440 to fly anymore, you know, so I, I didn't want, I want, you know, 182 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,200 wanted to keep the wife, the wife happy. 183 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,400 So I thought what's, what's something else that would be fun 184 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 to do and, and maybe get her involved also. 185 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,800 And so I started to get into board gaming. 186 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,200 And so I got my wife to, to play board games with me a little 187 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,400 bit. She doesn't do it too often 188 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:41,760 anymore, but but that eventually transitioned into miniatures. 189 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,160 A friend had giving me a board game. 190 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:53,800 It was the Dungeons and Dragons Legends of Dritz board game, 191 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,440 which is a great way to to get a lot of cheap miniatures. 192 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,520 I think. I think at the time it was 193 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,120 probably like a a $30 game and you get like almost, I don't 194 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,080 know, maybe almost 100 different miniatures a game. 195 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,440 They are the soft plastic, you know, minis. 196 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:17,920 So but I ended up painting all those and kind of came across 197 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,240 some rules to use those miniatures in skirmish games 198 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,640 that I could play with my son as he was getting a little bit 199 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:30,640 older. And so let's see, we we we 200 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,640 played Song of Blazing Heroes. Oh, right, I've. 201 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,560 Heard of that? Yeah, I've heard of it. 202 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:37,840 I've never played it. Yeah. 203 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,880 It's, it's pretty simple, you know, a good one to play with 204 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,240 kids. They have a, a basic set of 205 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,120 rules and then a more advanced set of rules, which, yeah, but 206 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,200 they're, they're pretty straightforward. 207 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,080 Great. First playing skirmish games of, 208 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:57,080 you know, fantasy genre. So yeah, I used those minis to 209 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,760 start playing that. And then and then that kind of, 210 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,040 yeah, the bug just really bit and there's no turning back from 211 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,960 there. Yeah, I can. 212 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,760 I can see behind you there, Scott. 213 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,440 You've got a lovely box of Dragon masters and the mighty 214 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,200 Empires set as well. And Battle Masters. 215 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,640 And battle masters, Yep, Yep. Let's see here. 216 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,960 It's yeah. So, so maybe it's, you know, a 217 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,920 lot of people dream of having like a the grand campaign, yeah, 218 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:38,000 the Warhammer battles. And so I, I got that with that, 219 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,520 you know, intending to do that eventually. 220 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:48,360 I haven't started it yet, but, and then, yeah, I got got a 221 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,000 pretty good deal on the Battle Master set too. 222 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,880 So that's up there. Eventually I'd like to make turn 223 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,880 that into a project, but it's pretty, it's pretty massive. 224 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,960 It's, it's, you know, I guess you just have to put it on the 225 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,960 floor. I. 226 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,840 Think it's bigger than a 6 by 4. It is bigger than 6 by 4. 227 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,720 Yeah, I think it's like 8. It's no, it might be like 6 by 228 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,240 5. I think it is. 229 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,560 I think it's just too wide. The length is OK for a 6 by 4, 230 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:22,240 but I think it's just too wide. Yeah, I got I got it for my son 231 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,560 quite a few years ago and we found a copy here through my my 232 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,960 good friend Justin at one of the stores in Japan. 233 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,360 It was selling a second hand, but it was a Japanese version, 234 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,040 which I thought that'd be great. You know, it'd be something 235 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,320 something unique and it was all complete, thankfully. 236 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,280 Everything was like, if you ever buy anything second hand in 237 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,400 Japan, everything's always complete and it's always in a 238 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,960 mint condition. And so I was very happy to find 239 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,600 that. And we tried it a couple of 240 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,200 times and me and Justin actually played through the campaign 241 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,040 ourselves, even though this is for my son. 242 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,560 But he's a little bit too young and he just, his attention span 243 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,400 wasn't there, you know, Sure. But he's keen to play it again. 244 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,280 And we've got some friends who who are keen to play it also 245 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,080 because he's never played a miniatures game. 246 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,520 And I was saying for your kids, this is the perfect gateway into 247 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,920 tabletop war gaming, you know? Mm hmm, definitely. 248 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Now, have you painted up all the minis in there? 249 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,920 I haven't. I haven't. 250 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,360 I was even thinking that if if I was going to start a chaos army, 251 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,040 I think I might. I saw someone do it recently and 252 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,400 I can't remember where it was exactly, might have been 253 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,000 Facebook, but they he had all the plastic Chaos Warriors and I 254 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,440 love those plastic Chaos Nights. I think they're the best models 255 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,920 they ever made for Chaos Nights. They are classic, kind of. 256 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,680 Yeah. The helmet design and it looked 257 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,120 like something from, you know, what's that movie called again? 258 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Willow, Willow. When you see the when you see 259 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,120 the the cows, those guys, and then the the arm or the skull 260 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,280 helmets and stuff like that. That's kind of like the 80s sort 261 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,480 of, you know, heavy metal looking dudes. 262 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,400 Yeah, on I love that. Yeah, I love all that kind of 263 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,920 stuff. And the basement are quite, 264 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,000 quite kind of goofy and yeah, I like it. 265 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,760 And you got the you got the Chaos thugs Archers and you 266 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,760 could play like a real, it's a real old hammer style game. 267 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,120 Definitely. Yeah, it's yeah, lovely model. 268 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,480 So. Yeah, I think for me personally, 269 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,720 I think if I were to do like a Chaos army, I would definitely 270 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,040 lean towards more of the kind of the old Barbarians along with 271 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,560 that type of the type of troops that we see in the the battle 272 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,800 masters. Yeah, yeah, for sure. 273 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,040 So, yeah, that's great. I've never seen, I've never seen 274 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Dragon Masters as an actual product. 275 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,040 I've never seen on the shelf anywhere. 276 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,560 Only seen like promos in White Dwarf magazine. 277 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,960 But that is kind of like the sister game to Mighty Empires. 278 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,480 It's kind of the easy basic version to get into it I think 279 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,640 from memory. Yeah, and I actually got that 280 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:07,680 because my my Battle Man or my Mighty Empire's box was missing 281 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,520 a few pieces. And that's a great. 282 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,440 I mean, they use a lot of the pieces are the same in in Dragon 283 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Masters. So like the cities. 284 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,960 Yeah. So that's actually why I got it. 285 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,200 And that's, and you know, if if you look on eBay, you can buy 286 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,280 the pieces, but they're pretty pricey. 287 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,920 But you can actually find Dragon Masters for pretty cheap. 288 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,200 I think I got that for like $30.00 on eBay. 289 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,160 Wow, that's great. Yeah, yeah, Yep, Yep. 290 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,560 That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, Yep. 291 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,800 I'll have, I'll, I'll yeah. I think Mighty Empires is a is a 292 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,560 interesting game, like you say, for a campaign, if you if you 293 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,400 build around a campaign. And I think Nick, a mate of 294 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,840 mine, he was thinking about doing that. 295 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:55,480 And I, I interviewed Mel Boasts from the terrain shooter. 296 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,040 You know, the terrain shooter. Yeah, he actually did that back 297 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,560 in the 90s. Had had Mighty Empires, Man O 298 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,240 War and 4th Edition fantasy and did the whole campaign thing 299 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,240 with his friends. Yeah, I think I remember that. 300 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,320 I remember the interview. Did he say he had like 2 two 301 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,120 sets or something like that? It must have been massive. 302 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,760 I can't remember now what exactly how many sets he had but 303 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,680 but at least he got to live the dream. 304 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,920 You know like a lot of us are still trying to catch or chase 305 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,840 after 30 odd years in the hobby. Right, right. 306 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,080 It's kind of that you want to somehow combine, combine like 307 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:37,520 the the RPG elements with kind of a telling a story through 308 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,640 your through your your battles. But it's really, it's really 309 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,520 hard to do. It just seems, Yeah, yeah. 310 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,200 And then I have a lot of treasures kind of hidden away 311 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,320 back there. Got the Empire War altar in the 312 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960 box. The first team tank. 313 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Let's see, War Wagon. Wow. 314 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,200 War wagon, right? Yeah. 315 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,080 Yeah, yeah. So that's, that's like the, the, 316 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,800 you know, usually what you'll see for sale on my website is, 317 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,040 is kind of like the product of me just searching for things I'm 318 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,560 interested in and then, you know, finding a, a deal where, 319 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,600 OK, it's a great deal, you know, and, and I'm interested in maybe 320 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,960 part of this, it's like kind of justify building my collection 321 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,440 like that. I'm, I'm, I'm quite a 322 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,680 cheapskate. Like when I first got back into 323 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,920 the hobby, it was like I was, I was sweating over buying a sprue 324 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,760 like a plastic spoon, you know? So, so this is kind of a it, it 325 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,960 kind of is a way to kind of like justify. 326 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,840 It's kind of dangerous because it is a way to like justify 327 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,360 adding to your own collection. Absolutely. 328 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,480 Try to kind of limit myself I I've got this one bookcase in my 329 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,120 office that I try to kind of limit myself to just everything 330 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:03,400 has to go in there but you know I kind of cheat quite a bit 331 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,600 actually too I've got some stuff stash away in my garage too but. 332 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,560 Just don't tell the wife, yeah? Yeah, Yeah, yeah, right, right, 333 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,320 right. Well, she's, she's being being 334 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Korean. She she just doesn't Yeah, this 335 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,440 is all this hobby is just like a massive shock to her, like she 336 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,120 does. There's nothing really 337 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:32,360 comparable to it in Korea. I guess like, you know, people 338 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,800 I, I guess Koreans are, are pretty, I guess pragmatic. 339 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Like they, you know, of course they have their hobbies, but 340 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,000 they're very focused on work. And if you're an adult, you 341 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,560 know, work and, and family and I think hobbies are probably 342 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,080 become becoming more and more popular. 343 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,720 But, you know, it's like South Korea has developed so quickly 344 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,320 in such a short time that, you know, they've really gone from, 345 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,960 you know, like, like my parent, my, my, my parents in law's 346 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,320 generation, you know, they were like, you know, working, you 347 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,160 know, maybe I'm exaggerating, but maybe something like 12 348 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,520 hours a day and just like working really hard just to 349 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,560 survive and, and build up the country. 350 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,520 And so it's really just kind of our generation, kind of the 351 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,320 younger generations that that has the, you know, the leisure 352 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,840 to to get into hobbies. And it's, you know, now it's 353 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,400 like South Korea is more advanced I would consider than 354 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,400 America. And maybe it's the same in 355 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,200 Japan. Yeah. 356 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,080 Yeah. Or I think, I think you're 357 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,600 right. Yeah, they have like they've, I 358 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,800 think the same generation were just working so hard for so 359 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,680 long, they had no time for hobbies and recreational 360 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,720 activities. But of course, Japan had the big 361 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,240 boom in the 90s of console gaming and they became the 362 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,720 number one supplier and developer of, of games and 363 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,840 software for home entertainment. So there's always that. 364 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,640 But yeah, looking at that thing about Games Workshop, it was 365 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,200 never, as far as I know, it was it was catered for the Japanese 366 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,960 in the 90s when 5th edition came out and that kind of brought out 367 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,920 their own language editions and that kind of thing. 368 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:20,480 But I think that thing that was ever given to the the Koreans in 369 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,240 the same way, I don't think they have, I like to my 370 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,960 understanding, I don't think they actually had a Korean 371 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,280 language edition of Warhammer. No, I don't. 372 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,240 I don't think they they did. And it's really probably not 373 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:39,400 until very recently that that, you know, miniatures are, are 374 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,480 getting any exposure at all in South Korea. 375 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,960 I was there last year and I did stumble upon a website of a, 376 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,680 there's a, there's a store in Seoul that sells miniatures, but 377 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,640 I think that that may be the only one. 378 00:22:54,120 --> 00:23:00,880 And back when I was there, I got there in 2010 and I was coming 379 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:05,320 kind of coming in at the tail end of a fad of these board game 380 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,200 cafes. But I think by the time I got 381 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,360 there, they were kind of not. So yeah, kind of going out of 382 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:17,400 fashion. All right, OK, yeah, yeah. 383 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,200 But I suppose one thing going forward, like the big cities 384 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,720 like Seoul is that they have a lot of English speakers, a lot 385 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,360 of, a lot of South Korean speak English very well, especially 386 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,400 same with Japan in the big cities. 387 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,240 You got a lot of people who, who, who, if they do find this 388 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,840 kind of thing. Like I, I, I have a student 389 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,160 who's probably my age, bit older and he was playing D&D like he 390 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,280 was translating the D&D books a second edition in university for 391 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,680 his playing room. And he had, I think he had the 392 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,280 miniatures and everything from memory. 393 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,360 But yeah, if, if there's the will, there's a way kind of 394 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:55,640 thing. And they'll, they'll get around 395 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,240 it because they, they, they can, you know, literally they can 396 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,760 read and translate things rather well. 397 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,160 And I suppose maybe I've never been to Korea, I don't have 398 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,520 much, much contact with S Koreans personally, but I'd 399 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,960 imagine that'd be the same thing. 400 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,120 You know, a lot of the educated S Koreans would be able to read 401 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,600 English perfectly, probably not speak it so fluently. 402 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,680 But if they had the interest of gaming or board gaming or what 403 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,480 have you, they would just find a group that were equally as 404 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,800 passionate and then they'd they'd just translate it for 405 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,640 them and and to get to get around the language barrier. 406 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,640 Yeah, yeah. So I think probably since the 407 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:41,040 90s I believe English has been like a mandatory language that 408 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,840 you study throughout, you know, probably at least through, I 409 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,400 don't know if it's all the way through from K through, you 410 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,480 know, kindergarten through high school, but this definitely 411 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,840 mandatory for some of those years. 412 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:00,400 And so you'll find most, most Koreans at least can, can read 413 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,640 and understand English. And then, yeah, kind of a 414 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,360 growing number also have been, you know, sent to English 415 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:12,720 kindergartens for the spoken component as well. 416 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,960 So so yeah, I mean, I live, I mean, yeah, living in in South 417 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,040 Korea is very easy for English speakers. 418 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Like I, I've met guys who, who had lived there for 12 years and 419 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,280 they couldn't speak, you know, hardly any Korean at all. 420 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,320 And they're still able to be able to get by. 421 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,840 Yeah, Yeah. Well, that's good. 422 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,720 And, and and I suppose like me, you spent some time teaching 423 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,600 there as well. Yeah. 424 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,880 That's right. Yeah. 425 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:46,200 So, so I went there really with the intention of just spending a 426 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,000 year teaching. And so I taught at a, it's 427 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,320 actually a kindergarten in English, a private English 428 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,000 speaking kindergarten there. And, and I'd actually wanted to 429 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,880 go to Japan 1st. And that was my plan. 430 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,840 A friend of mine had recommended a school there and I, I called, 431 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,960 but they had just finished hiring all the teachers for, for 432 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,560 that coming year. So I was, I was like, well, I 433 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,200 don't want to wait in a whole other year. 434 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Another friend of mine had some connections in South Korea, so I 435 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,120 ended up going there instead. But it was a yeah, I think, I 436 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,160 think if I would have gone to Japan, I probably would have 437 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,840 been like you. I probably would have stayed 438 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,240 there just because I'm, I'm pretty fascinated by the 439 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,320 Japanese culture. And I think there are a lot of 440 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080 yeah, similarities. I mean, I think they they seem 441 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,000 to appreciate history quite a bit in tradition. 442 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,040 They do. They do. 443 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,280 Yeah, I'm just, you know, they seem to do everything at a very 444 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,600 high standard and pride themselves in that. 445 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Yeah, South Korea is quite different. 446 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:58,560 It's it's they have had a pretty like what they are considered a 447 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,600 pretty bad history. And so I what they would often 448 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,320 tell me is that they're always looking forward to the future 449 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,200 because their past was so pretty dark, you know, just a lot of 450 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,240 poverty and then, yeah, being, you know, taken over by Japan 451 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,520 and all that. Yeah. 452 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,880 So, so really, you'll go there and they do have their, you 453 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:31,680 know, historic tourist sites, but but it's very interesting 454 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,920 that the culture is very much about staying up to date with 455 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,600 the latest technology. You know, you'll, you'll go into 456 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,560 the, to the, you know, a tiny mom and pop restaurant and 457 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,360 they'll have the a brand new, like huge Samsung TV. 458 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,320 It's just kind of like, wow, yeah, interesting. 459 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,480 But yeah, that's, I guess, you know, it's a great way for their 460 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,640 economy just to, you know, stay, stay moving ahead. 461 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,320 So, so anyway, yeah, it's I I went there with just the 462 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,440 intention of staying for a year, but met my wife. 463 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,200 She was South Korean and she was actually just returning from 464 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,760 studying in America. And we met and pretty quickly 465 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,480 kind of realized that she was the one for me and we got 466 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,200 married there and I ended up staying there for six years 467 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,200 total. And I. 468 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,040 Don't, I don't know if it's the same in Japan, but when you go 469 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,720 there, you know, just just to go there to teach, you're there on 470 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,880 a work visa. And so you have to be sponsored 471 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,000 by a school. But once you're married, your 472 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,320 visa changes. And I became more a freelance 473 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:53,240 teacher. So, so kind of just, yeah, 474 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440 finding different teaching gigs any way I could. 475 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,240 And we actually also start a little English school in our 476 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,080 apartment. Oh great, Which? 477 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,640 Which went OK for, for a while, but as we started having kids 478 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,160 and it became harder, you know, my, my, my youngest son, he was. 479 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,360 Yeah. He would once he was old enough 480 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,320 to start walking around and he would kind of, you know, be 481 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,240 banging on the classroom door saying, you know, it's not bad. 482 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,000 He did. So. 483 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,200 So I had to change that, change that up. 484 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,600 Yeah. I kind of did a lot of different 485 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,840 things. And he's like anything from 486 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:36,440 doing song and dance in front of kindergarten classrooms to, to 487 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,040 more corporate, you know, teaching adults. 488 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:41,920 Yeah. So. 489 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,960 So everything in between. Good on you mate. 490 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,920 Yeah, good experience for you anyway. 491 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Yeah. It was, it was, Yeah, Yep. 492 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,920 So we yeah. But I actually, I was listening 493 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,680 to your podcast that you did with David and quite a lot of 494 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,280 similarities. Yeah, so. 495 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,440 Yeah. Yeah, with the kind of the, the 496 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,080 burnout that comes I think with, with doing that full time. 497 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,480 So I, I got pretty burnt out on it. 498 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Just the constant, you know, trying to find new, new gigs. 499 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,360 And I'm kind of an introvert. Not, not so much that I don't 500 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,520 like being around people, but it just kind of, you know, take the 501 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040 energy out of me. But you know, so, so kind of 502 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,760 being, especially with kids kind of being the entertainer for 8 503 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,760 hours a day, it's, it's just quite draining so. 504 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Yeah, it's a bit of a circus sometimes, isn't it? 505 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,880 I know you're sort of on parade. You're this special thing that 506 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520 people want to talk to and look at. 507 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,760 Yeah, Yeah, I, I, I got that feeling too after a while. 508 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,960 Yeah, Even though I've still got 1 foot in the teaching, but one 509 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,080 foot out. But yeah, it's, it's always good 510 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,560 to fall back on. And it's an pretty much an 511 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,640 assured kind of, you know, career to to jump back into if 512 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:04,640 things go a bit, a little bit bit shaky here and there. 513 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Yeah. But yeah. 514 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360 But it's not, it's not the, you know, I think most people I've 515 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,680 met through in Japan too have sort of started that and then 516 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,600 gone on to something else. They've used that as a launching 517 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,120 pad to get into something else, maybe their dream job or dream 518 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400 career or what have you. Yeah. 519 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,640 So, yeah, they should. People should. 520 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,880 Well, then some people really love it, you know, and they, 521 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,320 they, they couldn't think of doing anything else, which is, 522 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,320 Yeah, great, you know, So. Yeah. 523 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,200 Yeah, now 11 great thing is if you can actually start playing 524 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,080 board games with your students, I I think you'd have mentioned 525 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,680 playing Talisman with your students, right? 526 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,440 Yeah, we did. Yeah. 527 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,400 It was great. They loved it, absolutely loved 528 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,480 it. And I, I, I introduced them to 529 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,720 hear request and they've never seen anything like that before. 530 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,360 Never like miniatures, you know, and painted miniatures for that. 531 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,400 And then, you know, this 3D dungeon and they really got into 532 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,040 it and it was really lovely to see. 533 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,960 And if I was, if I had thought about doing something myself as 534 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,360 opening a school or opening up a cafe, Yeah. 535 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,800 So some kind of English with board games with, with, you 536 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:15,080 know, younger kids and various different kinds of board games 537 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,640 that would appeal to them or for their age group or language 538 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,960 level. And yeah, make that some kind of 539 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,880 hangout place for, for people to come to probably near a 540 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,120 university. Because in scuba, not so far 541 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,280 from where we live, actually in that city, there's, there's 542 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,040 heaps and heaps of universities there. 543 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,200 So it'd be like the the perfect place to set up something like 544 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,400 that, where after after school, they can come down, ride their 545 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800 bike down, come in, have something to drink, play some 546 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,320 board games, hang out with their friends, interact with English. 547 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,440 And yeah, it'd be a really, really good thing to do, I think 548 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,200 if I was ever going to do something like that. 549 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,640 Definitely. Yeah. 550 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,040 Yeah. So. 551 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,840 But. You're going to enjoy that. 552 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,080 And you kind of get to the point where you're, you know, you can 553 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,960 hardly believe you're getting paid to play board games with 554 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,240 these kids. Yeah, you know. 555 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,840 I don't, you know, I don't think my, I don't think my company 556 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,720 really wanted me to do that. But yeah, it was good. 557 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680 Just just every now and again. And I had another guy and I had 558 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Shades, Shadespire, you know, that GW game, the board game. 559 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,600 Yeah. And I got him into it because 560 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,480 he, he was like a gamer and playing like Nintendo Switch and 561 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,560 that kind of stuff with his wife. 562 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,240 But I introduced him to board games and he absolutely loved 563 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,320 it. We did that, I think because we 564 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280 just thought, I thought, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm with this 565 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,360 guy for two hours and, and I just thought, you know, what the 566 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,320 hell, let's just play board games, OK, No problem. 567 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,400 I think we had like a four hour session or something, or 568 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360 something massive. So I said, OK, let's just play 569 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,360 board games. So he said, OK, yeah. 570 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,800 So we just did that for four hours. 571 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,240 It's brilliant. And yeah, we really enjoyed it, 572 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,360 I think. Yeah, it was great. 573 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,560 It was really good. And yeah, I like, I like 574 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,400 introducing people to, to games. I I quite enjoy that. 575 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,120 And if, if it was through teaching that I did that and I 576 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520 converted a couple of people into board games, board gamers. 577 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720 Great. And one of the young guys who 578 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:13,159 went off to university, he came in through the summer, summer 579 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:16,000 holidays and he wanted to say hello to me and, and he said he 580 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960 was bored. And I said, and I had that 581 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,360 shades by a game. I paid, I paid the most and 582 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,719 miniatures for it. I said, here you go mate, look, 583 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,199 just take it finds find some guys or girls in your college or 584 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,760 what have you. Get him to sit down and play and 585 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,199 play it with you. It's in English. 586 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:32,719 Unfortunately it wasn't in Japanese. 587 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,639 But you know, it's good for them to if they if they feel 588 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:41,080 motivated to learn. And, and I hope, I hope he's 589 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,719 still playing it. I hope he's still got it and 590 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,440 still using it and and playing it with his friends. 591 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,280 Yeah, that's awesome. But I, I had a very similar 592 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,440 experience where, yeah, I, I had a 2 hour lesson with, with kind 593 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,600 of a corporate guy. I was thinking what, what could, 594 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,800 what could I do with this guy for two hours? 595 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,000 You know, it's like, so I, I stumbled upon this, upon this 596 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,520 idea online where where you, you watch videos and you get them 597 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,920 and like the teacher is kind of like, not like not watching like 598 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,000 blindfolded. And they're describing what's 599 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,560 happening in the video to you. So, so they're kind of got this 600 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,920 constant, you know, narration of what's happening in the video. 601 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,680 And I made a mistake of, you know, I'd, I'd wanted this when 602 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,280 Games of Thrones was kind of. Coming out. 603 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,720 And I, I and I hadn't watched it yet, but but hey, this, this 604 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:41,720 looks like a pretty full show. So I chose that and you know, 605 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,480 you know, some of those scenes are pretty graphic. 606 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,400 Yeah, yeah. So he's, he, he's like starting 607 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,560 to narrate it to me and he, and he kind of stops what's going 608 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,480 on. You know, he's like, so it's, 609 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,840 it's a, you know, one of the, I think one of the first episodes, 610 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,280 if you remember, there was a, a scene of incest taking place. 611 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 612 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,120 So, so it's kind of like, OK, I don't maybe this is such a great 613 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,720 idea, but he told me later that he was hooked on the on the 614 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,480 series and he couldn't stop watching at home. 615 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:25,240 So I guess, I guess he was. I, I actually had an, a lady in 616 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:30,080 her, you know, I think her 60s, I'd say she's retired. 617 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,840 She was retired and really lovely lady. 618 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,960 And she told me one day I, I love watching the Game of 619 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,520 Thrones series. I said really, I see. 620 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,240 Well, I and I and I just thought it was just, it just didn't 621 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,040 match her. And I thought, what about all 622 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,880 those really intense sexual scenes and violence? 623 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,200 She's oh, yeah, I'll just skip through. 624 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,320 I'll just skip past those. And I said, yeah, sure you do. 625 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,920 Yeah. It's like, I bet you do. 626 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm sure there's more, more 627 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,120 sort of violent, violent stuff out there on on the in TV shows. 628 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,480 I, I think a lot of the earlier, I think I was talking to David 629 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,320 about that stuff you'd found in the 70s and 80s was just way 630 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,160 more, way more risque than that. But anyhow, mate, we're going 631 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,680 to, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be come back and 632 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,160 I want to discuss with you some of the armies you're collecting 633 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,280 and games you're playing nowadays. 634 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,160 And we'll be back in just a moment. 635 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,160 I'm excited to announce the return of the Hirohammer Fanzine 636 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,640 Issue 4, which is due in March of 2025. 637 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160 If you have never heard of the Hirahama fanzine, then please 638 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,480 visit hirahamahyphenfanzine.com to download your free copy of 639 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,640 the first three issues today. And thank you to all the people 640 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,440 that have reached out to help contribute to our hobby 641 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,040 magazine. Now let's get back to the show. 642 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,520 OK, We're back again after that short break. 643 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,640 Thanks again for joining me, Scott. 644 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,920 And yeah, what I really want to talk about now mate is about 645 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,960 your your collections, because you are collecting for different 646 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,920 purposes, one for yourself and one to fund your hobby and that 647 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,520 kind of thing and sell on other models. 648 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,440 But what actually do you actually have currently in your 649 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,600 collections? Oh my. 650 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,080 So like I said, it's pretty dangerous when you're, you know, 651 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,600 buying and selling because I do tend to pull out quite a bit to 652 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,680 keep. So, so when I first started, I, 653 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,120 I started some skirmish games with, with a Robin Hood theme. 654 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,240 This is something I thought would be fun with my kids and, 655 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,360 and I really enjoyed doing that. Starting out with kind of kit 656 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,560 bashing, you know, from different plastic kits to make 657 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,040 Robin Hood's band out of. Let's see. 658 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,400 Yeah, just just different screws I'd buy online and and now 659 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,280 recently, you know, with with the Baron's war, I know you're. 660 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,000 You're kind of, yeah. I like Baron's War too, yeah. 661 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,640 Too. You know, I'm kind of redoing my 662 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,320 My Sheriff of Nottingham's band. Oh nice. 663 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,360 From those miniatures I also picked up some of Claymore 664 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960 castings. I love those models. 665 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,520 Those are amazing. They're incredible. 666 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,880 Yep, Yep. So I think the, you know, 667 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,840 they're more for a later period, but with some of their Archers, 668 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,360 they they could fit kind of the like 13th century because 669 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640 they're not wearing a lot of plate armor, things like that. 670 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,560 So. Yeah. 671 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,600 Yeah, well, those poses. So yeah, they're kind of using 672 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,440 those to fill out Robin Hood's band and and, you know, use some 673 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,200 of those for the for the sheriff's as well. 674 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,360 And then something else that really caught my eye when when I 675 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,680 first. Got back into the hobby where 676 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,480 Mithril Miniatures Ireland, Right, right. 677 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,080 Yeah, I think the sculptor's name is, is it Chris Tubbs, 678 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,360 sculptor? And yeah, just just those, you 679 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,520 know, the, the sculpts that are actually, you know, based on, on 680 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:29,400 the books and from the Middle Earth role-playing game also 681 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,080 before the movies were out. So I really just like that 682 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,520 aesthetic. I wasn't so, so keen on like 683 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,240 games workshops, models, interpretation models. 684 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,080 They were, they were, they were based on the movies. 685 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,080 So so yeah, I started collecting those and you'll see on my side 686 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,960 I've got a lot of those blisters still in the blisters for sale. 687 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:02,760 So so yeah, I've got those. Eventually I think I'd like to 688 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,480 make some more bands and actually like use Games 689 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,600 Workshops rules but with those miniatures. 690 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,560 Right, OK, I'm just, I'm just looking at Mithril miniatures 691 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,560 because I, I remember them being available like when I got into 692 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,400 war gaming and and finding about discovering miniatures and that 693 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,000 kind of thing. But it looks like now it's sort 694 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:29,400 of evolved into 3D sculpting and all that kind of thing, yeah. 695 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,560 Yeah, so, so yeah, it's quite different. 696 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,760 I think they used to be like pretty reasonable, reasonable 697 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,840 price. They're they're pretty ordinary 698 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,720 looking old models. The old models are really 699 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,760 ordinary looking, but without any kind of definition or 700 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,960 anything like that. But the new ones certainly have 701 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,320 changed a lot. So it's the escape. 702 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,920 Same sculptor, but he does it. Yeah, digitally now. 703 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,080 And they, and they do, I think a lot of the collectors might be 704 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,680 kind of like turned off by this, but they do them in, in resin 705 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,720 now they sell them in resin. And you know, they have a 706 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:08,200 different, a kind of a different model where they have a, a club 707 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,280 and anyone can join. It's called the fellowship club 708 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,960 where you buy a certain miniature. 709 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:22,680 I forget what was it. I think it's Aragorn holding up 710 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,360 the, the orb. I forget what it's called, but 711 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,760 anyway, you buy that miniature and then you can join the club 712 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,120 and then it's kind of a forum where you can vote on what will 713 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,320 be the next miniature for for Kristen Sculpt. 714 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,800 Right. It's kind of fun, but I think 715 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:46,240 it's it kind of also, you know, limits It's yeah, it's just, 716 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,240 it's just an interesting business model. 717 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,760 I don't, I don't know that they sell a whole lot and they might 718 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,240 just have a limited run of each miniature and they're pretty 719 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,960 pricey. I mean, yeah, you can see like 720 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,280 they're up to, you know, you know. €21.00 for one single 721 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,040 model in resin. That's that's something that you 722 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,880 gotta love them if you really want them. 723 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,520 Yeah, but that's kind. Of the fun part of of collecting 724 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,520 too is is just keeping an eye out for for great deals, you 725 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,600 know and snagging them up when they come you know you can you 726 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,360 can sometimes find you know people just getting rid of a a 727 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,800 lot of blisters all at once and you can get them at a pretty 728 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,320 reasonable price and then I don't know if you've ever seen 729 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,960 this, but there's a there's a Facebook page I think it's 730 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,480 called war gaming in Middle Earth, which. 731 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,960 I haven't seen it. It's it's pretty awesome. 732 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440 I'd recommend that to anyone who's interested in Tolkien. 733 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:49,640 It's basically people who play war games that are not, you 734 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,600 know, you know, based around Tolkien's works that are not 735 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:59,400 Games Workshop using different rules sets, but a lot of kit 736 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,040 bashing and a lot of amazing painting. 737 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,800 And and so a lot of the people in there play Oathmark. 738 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,680 It. It seems to be, you know, kind 739 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,080 of more geared towards Tolkien as well. 740 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:18,880 Like pretty low fantasy some also building up some armies to 741 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,560 play with Oathmark. OK, good. 742 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,040 I've got a a Hobbit army I'm working on eventually some elves 743 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,040 yeah, so so that's kind of a long term project. 744 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,240 Yeah, so. So have you dabbled in the old 745 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,520 world 'cause I can see them on your bookshelf behind you? 746 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,720 Have you dabbled on that yet? I have, yeah. 747 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:52,400 So so with with this first big collection I got it really I 748 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:59,400 wasn't planning on getting back into Warhammer, the game is 749 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:05,480 worse but but as a kid I did. I did have a period where 750 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:13,040 probably between like 12 and 17, I got the 4th edition box set 751 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,240 and a few other, you know, a few other minis. 752 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:22,160 And I was really into the high Elves and, you know, just and 753 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,600 yeah, just like the Dwarfs and the and the Empire. 754 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,800 I was just like, you know, always look through the catalogs 755 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,320 and just kind of like, you know, just just dream about owning all 756 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,040 these these miniatures and, you know, also seeing things like 757 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:43,760 like Epic and 40K. So yeah, this first collection 758 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:49,200 that I that I bought had a lot of that in it and especially 759 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,560 Epic. Yeah. 760 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,240 And the more I, I like I had these in my possession and I was 761 00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:01,800 like, oh, man, this is so tempting to just, you know, keep 762 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,160 them some of these for myself. And it, it just like kind of 763 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,160 wore on me. It just wore me down. 764 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,120 And then I just kind of like surrendered. 765 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,040 I was like, OK, I'm going to take everything out of here that 766 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,000 I would imagine myself wanting in the future. 767 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,720 And and so I'd say for the past year I've, I've been yeah. 768 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,320 And that's kind of grown into like kind of searching for more 769 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,840 and just building up my empire collection and my high health 770 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,640 collection. I kind of kind of got out of 771 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,920 control collecting the the Marauder Dwarfs because. 772 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,440 Oh yeah. Yeah, they're, they're amazing. 773 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,600 And the more you look at them and just the more you appreciate 774 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,680 them. And actually, before I had 775 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:47,400 bought that collection, I had come across the the older, like 776 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,000 third edition and it's like maybe even second edition the 777 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,320 the pre slaughter dwarfs, like the fantasy tribes and those are 778 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,000 just amazing too. But they're just, they're so 779 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,080 different from from the later sculpts. 780 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,640 You know, they're more maybe kind of like they look more 781 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,120 realistic. I guess you'd say that skinnier. 782 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,880 Yeah, that's right. Their heads are more in 783 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,160 proportion to their bodies. I think their arms and and legs 784 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,240 are kind of a little bit odd sometimes, but but they just 785 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,200 have a lot of character. So that's that was kind of like 786 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:23,440 what really got me first as far as like, yeah, from Games 787 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,040 Workshop, but to me. And it's like, yeah, it's kind 788 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,280 of gotten out of control. So I so I've got enough empire 789 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,320 models that I could pretty much do anything I would want with 790 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,440 them. Right and. 791 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:40,280 My, my and my thought first was a Marienburg army because my, my 792 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,160 thought there was, you know, especially looking at the, the 793 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,200 old Marienburg, I think Warhammer role-playing book, if 794 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,880 a great book that kind of goes in depth with in the city. 795 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,960 And, and, and so you could I, I thought, man, I could actually 796 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,600 have like dwarfs and elves in my empire army, you know, and you 797 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,320 know, of course, they're just proxy in for maybe, you know, 798 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,360 your elf spear and my, my proxy in for the empire spear. 799 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480 I mean, you have to kind of be kind of creative, but it's like, 800 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,840 you know, this, that can make it work. 801 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,320 And I'd only have to paint one army, but I'd get my, my empire 802 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,520 and dwarfs and, and elves. But that, you know, you know, 803 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,280 how it goes. Like as I started to think more 804 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,920 about the Elves and the Dwarfs in my collection, kind of it's 805 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,400 like, well, OK, I guess I'm doing all three armies. 806 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,640 That's good, mate. That's great. 807 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,360 That's excellent. Yeah. 808 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:33,240 And I see you've got a painting table behind you, so you do 809 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:35,400 actually paint the models that you do. 810 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,760 I do. I try to. 811 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,120 I haven't done it much for the past year or so. 812 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,040 I've been pretty busy with just, yeah, any free time. 813 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,560 I just try to try to work on the business aspect. 814 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,840 Yeah. And then, you know, you kind of 815 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,720 justify squeal up and searching for hours on it, searching for 816 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,240 deals that way I would have been doing it anyway, even if I 817 00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:59,280 didn't have a business. So. 818 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,320 So that's kind of the fun, some fun part of this too, starting 819 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:10,000 to kind of collect the older Marauder elves. 820 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,000 Oh. Yeah, Marauder Empire like have 821 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:15,800 so much. Character. 822 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,160 They're beautiful models. Really beautiful models, yeah. 823 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,760 Yeah, So, yeah. And then I also like the old 824 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,320 like fantasy, fantasy tribes, goblins, those have a lot of 825 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,160 character too. They're just just so different. 826 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,400 You know, it's it's almost like if you have you almost it'd be 827 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520 hard to mix those and make it look good, like mix the the 828 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,440 older preslotta models with with the more modern, like like the 829 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,160 90s model. So I I think I'll I'll probably 830 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,680 stay more on the pre slot as far as the goblins go. 831 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,440 But yeah, those are those are pretty incredible too. 832 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,000 Like the old the old knight goblins. 833 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,720 Also this is yeah, they're so cool. 834 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,920 Wow, OK. I don't think I've ever ever 835 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,920 seen those models so. Yeah, that's going way back. 836 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,400 And then the they also have like, like chaos goblins. 837 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,320 Have you ever seen those like mutated goggles? 838 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:22,200 Very cool, Very cool. Yeah, there was just a lot of 839 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,440 very interesting, like different concepts, I guess in Games 840 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,320 Workshop at that time, it kind of evolved into something 841 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,040 different, I think. But but like listening to oh, 842 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,720 what's it called the the other podcast, the old Hammer. 843 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,640 Fiction Podcast. Yes, the only yeah, yeah, like 844 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,360 going into those old stories, you kind of get a kind of a feel 845 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,200 for how Warhammer used to be like kind of before the 4th 846 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,960 edition. I think that's a little bit 847 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:56,200 different, yeah. And then I also, there's a local 848 00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,760 group that plays Ned Epic Armageddon. 849 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,080 So so I've I've started playing that. 850 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,480 That's great. That's some imperial guard. 851 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,440 I've been an imperial guard painted army. 852 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:18,440 I painted up an Eldar army for my son to use and then 853 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,320 eventually some Tyranids and squats also. 854 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,880 Fantastic. Yeah. 855 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,200 Oh, good, 'cause that that was going my next question. 856 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,760 Like, you know, you've got the miniatures. 857 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,200 Do you actually people to play with? 858 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,320 So it sounds like you do. Yeah. 859 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,840 Local club there that's active. That's great. 860 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,280 Yeah, now, now, I did give Old World a a try. 861 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,480 And for me personally, it was, I didn't really enjoy it. 862 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:52,400 And I think I'd probably enjoy, I've been, I've been looking at 863 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,520 Warhammer Renaissance rules and those look awesome, more 864 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,160 streamlined, which is kind of what I'm looking for. 865 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,720 I'm looking for a simplified, more simplified game, you know, 866 00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:10,360 where it's not like I guess I like ideally I'd like a little 867 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,040 bit of variety in the games that I play, but it seems like a lot 868 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,560 of the people that I know who play old world, that's like 869 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,400 their main game, you know, so it just it just takes so much time, 870 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,280 I think to to get familiar with the rules and but a lot of 871 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,240 people enjoy it, which is great. You know, I think it's good for 872 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,400 getting people back into into war him. 873 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,600 But for sure mate. Yeah. 874 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,240 Our question of the month for November 2024 is what's your 875 00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:40,560 relationship with miniature painting? 876 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,960 Is it the main aspect of your hobby and something that you 877 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,280 strive for mastery or recognition? 878 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,760 And is it something you enjoy and find relaxing without 879 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,880 worrying too much about perfectionism? 880 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,240 Or is it something you'd rather not do at all, but you see as a 881 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,240 means to an end to getting those little guys on the table? 882 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,320 Send down your answer by going to 883 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,040 bedroombattlefields.com/voicemail and I need them in by Friday the 884 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,520 29th of November. That link again is Bedroom 885 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,720 battlefields.com/voicemail. And now, back to the show. 886 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,440 But yeah, I think Warhammer Renaissance looks pretty 887 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,160 amazing. Give it a go mate, it's all free 888 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,120 to download. You know, all the rules are free 889 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:23,480 and it's all based on 4th edition. 890 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,760 Get the they've got the wonderful spell cards if you got 891 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,200 if you can get those or print them out. 892 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,720 Yeah, I absolutely love it. We, we, we've, we, we play that 893 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,920 religiously now. So that's. 894 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,520 Great. Yeah, it's it's our main fix for 895 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,800 Warhammer really. And everyone seems happy, you 896 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,360 know, new you're like old and young. 897 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,120 So everyone seems to be very content with it. 898 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,840 So I'm glad that you're finally discovering that. 899 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,720 And the Empire army will be put to good use, that's for sure. 900 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,520 Yeah, yeah. Now something I, I would, I 901 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,920 wonder, excite, I, I don't know if anything is this like 902 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,560 Warhammer Renaissance for the for Warhammer 3rd edition? 903 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,760 Because I think the army list in 3rd edition are so interesting. 904 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,960 And I wonder if something like that could be kind of ported 905 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,880 over into Warhammer Renaissance. You know, like, like you've got 906 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,920 like the high elf army list is so different where they got like 907 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:26,600 Kiff, which are like elf villagers, merchant companies. 908 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,280 Yeah. And then a lot of similarities 909 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,120 to, to like 4th edition and onward. 910 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,360 But a lot of these units like like what are they called? 911 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,640 I got the book right in front of me here. 912 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,880 I see elf ward answers. Man, I'd like to have ward 913 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,400 answers in my IL army, you know, so, so I think, I think that's 914 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,360 one of my projects too. I'd I'd love to to paint up, I'd 915 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,800 like to use a lot of the older wood elf models, but paint them 916 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,360 models or yeah, Yep. But painting them up as more of 917 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,800 a high elf, like kind of envisioning like the regular 918 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,840 high elves that might be in a village, you know, like a 919 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,440 village militia or a town militia and maybe use them for 920 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,640 using the wood elf profiles, but but have them just kind of look 921 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,080 more high Elfie. Yeah, good, good. 922 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,960 Anyway, why not? Yeah, Yep. 923 00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:25,440 I would look forward to seeing that. 924 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,880 And I'm sure I think Boulder has kind of tried to tried to 925 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,520 squeeze in some of like the the wood elves in Renaissance has 926 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:37,400 like a has like more of a, a feral kind of, you know, tree, 927 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,680 tree hugging tribe of wood elves. 928 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,080 And he had more of the traditional sort of 4th edition 929 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,360 style of what else? So you've got a bit of a mixture 930 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,680 of both. And I tried, he's tried to 931 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,520 blend. You got like a Norse list in 932 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,680 there as well. So if you got like the old Norse 933 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,440 figures, which are practically Vikings, you could use those. 934 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,520 So I think he has tried to squeeze a bit of the old, old 935 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,560 hammer 3rd edition love into the list as well where he can. 936 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,080 That's. Great. 937 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,520 Awesome. Yeah, so have fun with that 938 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,240 mate, with you with and I hope you find someone out there in 939 00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:10,520 Texas where you are to enjoy that with you mate. 940 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,840 So but Scott, thanks very much again for your time today. 941 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,280 I really appreciate you coming on and to tell your story to us 942 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,840 and for for me to enjoy and listen and I know my listeners 943 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,760 would enjoy that too mate. So long may you prosper in the 944 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,000 buying and selling collecting of miniatures mate. 945 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,760 Thanks a lot, Joshua. Thanks for having me on.