Hello everybody. Thanks again for tuning into the
Cranic Event Podcast. This is Josh, your host, and I'm
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of thing. So we'll bring him back.
In the next episode when we go through a big community shout
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So we've got lots of shout outs to do then.
So we can get straight into the interviews and today you are
going to hear from kind Effects because we're going to talk to
Stu from the Gold Coast talking about his one 40K second
edition. It's sort of a friendly
tournament sort of not too serious just to get together.
People playing games having fun. 16 people are signed up and he
we just I just wanted to talk to Stu about it so that people if
we if they were interested in traveling into state.
Or if they were in the Brisbane or Gold Coast region, they'll be
perfectly, you know perfectly able to go and attend on the day
to sign up and register and how to how to do that and what kind
of things they need to prepare for the event.
So it sounds really exciting and I, you know, we'll talk about
that in in just a moment with Stu, me, myself and kind of fix.
So look forward to that. So it's been an all Aussie
episode really because we've got.
My good friend Brett from solo old Hammer Gaming YouTube
channel. And we're gonna talk about old
Hammer and all the things that we enjoy about sort of the late
80s, that kind of era, very early 90s, that's sort of that's
sort of part of Gw's game game and miniature history so.
About collecting and that kind of thing.
So it's quite a long interview, so I hope you enjoy that with me
and Brett. So it's really nice to catch up
with him. Also to talk about what he's
been up to and how he started his channel and the content he's
delivering to people out there to get their nostalgic kick for
the day. So I hope you enjoy that guy.
So apart from that, hope everyone doing is doing well.
And thanks again for your support for the podcast.
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So without further ado, let's get on with the interviews guys
and take care and see it again on the other side.
Yeah, good. Stewart Stewart is it.
Yes, just choose. Fine whatever you prefer.
OK, Stu. Yeah.
Thanks again, mate for coming on.
Thank you for having me. Now, pleasure, mate.
No problem at all. So yeah, we we thought we'd
bring on and kind of fix our 40K Second Edition expert on to talk
about this, this. Also, event happening pretty
close to my home home city of the Gold Coast, but it's in
Brisbane isn't it Stu? Yeah, so it's just South of
Brisbane in Logan, But Logan, Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
So it's not too far from me. I'm on the Gold Coast as well.
So yeah, it's yeah, I think it'll be a really good event,
yeah, when it happens in October.
Right. I used to go to Logan a lot to
Irresistible force. That was my sort of game store
back in the day when Gavin was running.
It is the where is the actual event.
Yeah, it's actually, well, it's actually in Paddington, so.
But irresistible force is kind of like a hub for, it's still a
hub for local Warhammer players. So yeah, when was the last time
you were there? Mate, this is over 10 years.
I've been in Japan for 10 years now, so at least eleven years
ago. Wow, Okay, I didn't realize I'd
been around for that long, but yeah, I've played a few games of
Second Head there and some more time.
So yeah, it's still going strong.
Well, that's good. That's good to hear.
I see a lot of. The song was on fire and like 40
K, 9th edition or whatever being played there when they do take
photographs and post it on their social networks and stuff like
that. But yeah, I'm surprised they
played second edition there or you know that it actually is
played at all. Because when I was there, there
was nothing like that at all. No old games being played there
at all. It's all sort of modern stuff,
yeah. No, it's yeah, like pretty much
whatever. You know people wanna play
they're they're up for. So you know our little sort of
Southeast QLD 40 K, Second Edition group.
You know, I've played a couple of times there and yeah and
played quite a few different games there.
There's the the local Mordheim. Brisbane group which has played
some big events there quite a few times in recent years which
I've participated in. So yeah, they're keeping the old
Hammer Flame alive. Cool kinda fix.
You wanna shoot some questions to Stew about the tournament?
The tournament itself, mate. Yeah, I've got a lot of
questions. Hey, are you handing out
deodorant at the door? Just spray them.
Just spray them down in consent, you know, just.
You know, 40K games. Close them down.
You'd hope that everyone's like around our age or around like
30-40 years old and has a point, but yeah, just be.
Fair. Yeah, absolutely.
I think we're all. Yeah.
Yeah, we're all quite seasoned players by this time, so I think
we've kind of got the the deodorant angle figured out by
now. So yeah, I can't imagine that
will be a problem. So as far as rules go, is there
any restrictions or rule sets or what have you got in place?
Well, basically it's going to be very casual.
So you know it's a this is sort of it's the 30th anniversary of
2nd edition. So we're basically, you know,
it's a celebration of 2nd edition.
So it's not a tournament. People can come along.
It will be organized so we'll match players up.
So you know, people don't get left out.
But as far as restrictions go, it's going to be.
Pretty open the I think the at this stage the only thing that
we've kind of got restricted is the infamous virus outbreak
strategy card and virus grenades as well.
But anything else basically. I mean we had a look at the you
know the Kent Fury don't be a Dick rules but you know this
isn't a tournament so we just want people to come along.
And have a good time. There won't be awards for
winning. So very much encouraging, that
sort of casual kind of fun play. So yeah, basically it's just the
virus outbreak, virus grenades that are kind of restricted.
If people want to take vortex grenades, that's fine.
If people want to take, you know, special characters, that's
fine. Yeah.
So it's we're leaving it very open basically.
Nice Have you printed out the Battle Bible and all the facts
ready for the to be in a juice when people get a bit heated?
Yeah, no, we haven't got to that stage yet.
We will print out some rules because, you know, it's gonna be
a lot of people there who haven't played in a long time,
so everyone's gonna be a little bit rusty.
And that's fine. So yeah, we'll print out some
rules, rules, references, you know, anything to, to make the
day go smoother. Because yeah, there will be a
lot of people sort of referencing rules and trying to
figure out, you know, how the game plays after 30 years.
So yeah. Yeah, nice.
How about the psychic phase? So you prepared for that?
And. Like how do you have multiple
decks of Warp cards on hand? We are, yeah, we are sourcing
some copies of Dark Millennium and the Warp cards, so we should
have enough, I think, to to cover all the players.
But yeah, basically with the Psychic phase, we sort of did
discuss whether, you know, we should include that because it
can, as you would know, make the game take a little bit longer.
But you know, it's all, it's all part of 2nd edition.
You know it's it's celebrating what it is for all you know, the
good parts and the bad parts and all its little quirks and
whatnot. So yeah, we will be including
the psychic phase for sure, but ultimately, like I said, it is a
casual gathering of players, so. Yep.
If two players happen to get together and, you know, they
sort of mutually decide that they don't wanna have a psychic
phase, well, that's fine. But generally speaking, yeah, we
will have the psychic phase happening.
How have you gone sourcing tables and terrain?
Yeah, so that was one of the big challenges.
But thankfully we sort of, well, I say weird but.
Mostly it's been a fellow called Tim White, so shout out to Tim
who has done a lot of the legwork for this, including
booking the venue and sorting the tables and terrain.
So I don't know Josh, if you remember there used to be a club
called the Blind Pig Games Club here in Brisbane.
I do remember, yeah, a really horrible experience going there.
I went there once and I just, OK, so sadly, yeah.
But go okay. Well I haven't been myself so I
don't really know too much about them, but they have.
They've got a lot of history in Brisbane.
So anyway they've got a lot of tables and terrain which Tim has
got contacts with them and basically we'll be borrowing a
lot of that as well as Tim he. Himself has got like a lot of
old school terrain, so we will have some of the old cardboard
second edition terrain like the fire base and the, you know,
battle bunker and all those great old terrain sets.
We'll have those. We'll also be asking people to
bring along some terrain if they have it, you know, it'd be
amazing if it's sort of. 2nd edition theme, so I'll be
bringing my space cactus along cuz that's kind of iconic for
2nd edition, yeah. So I think we'll have enough
basically to cover all of the players there.
So yeah. That's cool.
Good. Bit of a shout out to Tim, He
does a 3D print service, so if you're in Australia and you need
something 3D printed. Tim White is on Facebook and you
can get in touch with him. He's very reliable and very
affordable and that is one of his customers.
So yeah, good on Tim for helping organize with the terrain and
stuff like that. That's one of the most important
parts of it, I think. Yeah, well, I mean, he's sort
of. He set up the Facebook page and
the event page and. Put together a little poster
graphic for it. So yeah, he's he's certainly
been the main organizer of things.
So yeah, it's been really good to have the help.
And you know, also the 2nd Edition SE Queensland group,
Facebook group, all those guys have been great with their
advice on what we should and shouldn't do because you know,
just kind of deciding on how we want to play this out.
Just reflect on the last. 30 years of.
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that's a good idea to
bounce off each. Other.
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, they've all been great
with the advice and everything. So it's really been a group
effort, which is awesome. Now do you live on a powerful
owl sanctuary? Because you got some, like
chronic owl activity in the background going on there?
Many people don't. Know you can hear that, huh?
Hear that through the microphone, but it's like, you
know. You doing running a Hogwarts
ranch or something? I wish.
No, it's I live sort of in the Gold Coast hinterland, so up in
the the mountains. So I've got quite a big tract of
bushland behind me. And yeah, there's owls and.
Wallabies and all sorts of snakes and things out there.
So yeah, right. Awesome.
So with the venue, is there places to like get food and
relax and stuff like that around there as well?
Yeah, so it's based in It's in Paddington, which is pretty
central to Brisbane for those who don't know Brisbane, it's
kind of in a city. It's it's in a place called the
Lavala Center. Which has got like a whole bunch
of rooms for rent. So the there's a group called
the Brisbane Independent Gamers who meet there regularly and
they play a whole variety of games.
But yeah, it's a it's a good event space.
It's close to, you know, everything, shops and food and
and whatnot. We're probably talking about
sort of organizing. To get a food delivery of some
sort during the lunch break on the day, just to save people
going out. We haven't quite organized that
yet, but yeah, look, there's there's plenty of options
nearby. Anyone who knows Paddington
knows that, yeah, the place is just full of great food shops
and and whatnot, so yeah. That's good.
Are there any particular armies you're really keen on seeing?
Like present themselves? Like squats, for example?
Oh yeah, that would be amazing. Yeah, look, that would be great.
We've we've got a bunch of awards ready to go and again
shout out to Tim to for organizing the the trophies for
this but. Yeah, we're going to have awards
for most retro army, most thematic army, excuse me, and
best painted. So we are certainly encouraging
people to bring along their old school 2nd edition era armies
and yeah, it's going to be amazing to sort of see those hit
the table. But you know, at the same time,
totally understand some people might wanna play who don't have
those old miniatures who will no longer have them.
And you know, a lot of the miniatures now are so hard to
get, hard to source, or just very expensive in general.
So if people wanna use more modern miniatures, that's fine.
Yeah. And that that's a.
I'm glad you brought that up because that was my next
question. Can people proxy some of the
newer stuff? And just, yeah, we're all set
because as you said, there's a bit of crazy price and
gatekeeping going on in the realms of eBay and things like
that, so. Yeah.
That's, you know, a bit of a little bit of backwards
compatibility there. Yeah, of course.
Yeah. Like, you know, we don't want to
gatekeep at all. We want as many people to come
along as. As possible and enjoy the you
know, the zaniness of the 2nd edition rule set and you know
not having the miniatures, that you know the era appropriate
miniatures. We don't want that to be a
barrier. So if people want to use newer
miniatures that's fine. But you know, at the same time
we would love to see some, you know, old school armies of
squats or you know, whatever. Hit the tables, that would be
cool too. Hell yeah.
So how many people have actually registered now, Stu?
Last I checked it was, I think it was about 16, which isn't a
bad number. Yeah, it's good, but we're
having for more. So yeah, I'm hoping this.
You know, you helping to get the word out very generously,
generously would be will help, you know, boost the numbers.
And we've got a few other ideas up our sleeve to try and boost
numbers. So yeah, we're just kind of
trying to get the word out there on Facebook and all the
different sort of social media sites and groups and whatnot.
Yeah, just trying to make people aware, so.
Yeah, we've had people from all over, you know, registering
their interest and people even down South around sort of, you
know, Sydney and Melbourne, they're they're not coming up
for it, but you know, they're, I believe some of those guys are
gonna actually hold their own events down there.
And actually I heard that, yeah, so there's like an event, 30th
anniversary event happening over in the UK with the Bringing
Battle guys something. Storied.
And I believe there's some happening in the US and yeah,
I've heard, I'm pretty sure it was down in Sydney somewhere.
They were gonna organize one, so yeah.
Mate. Yeah, I think word spreading and
people are realizing that it's kind of like a.
You know, good opportunity to, you know, enjoy the the 2nd
edition and yeah. And you are you like setting
like a certain points value like 2000 points?
Or, yeah. So we're going for 1500 points
and. That's good.
Yes. And that was basically we sort
of I'm denied about that, but. I think that will kind of allow
people to play more than one game on on the day.
So get a couple of games in, maybe one in the morning, 1:00
in the afternoon, or if they're quick even, you know, three.
But that's kind of seemed like the sweet spot for multiple
games. 2000, just I think it's just a bit too much for one day
maybe if you're having like a full weekend event.
That might be doable, but yeah, 1500 I think is a good spot for
2nd edition. Yeah, I have to agree.
And it allows you to take a decent variety of stuff.
Yeah. That can fit your brain too
much. Yeah, it can fit a few things in
there. A cycle or a tank, you know, a
couple of squads, just a bit of variety, So yeah.
Yeah, or about like 12 Chaos Miniatures.
You know, something like that. That sounds really good.
Let's do will there be like a sort of trade or you know, swap
by deal kind of stall there, Like people can bring their old
and they can trade or sell their old treasures to people and that
kind of thing. Will there be something like
that at the event? That is the plan, yeah.
So we're gonna have sort of a bringing by kind of thing where
people can bring along some of their old miniatures that maybe
they, you know, are tired of hoarding and gathering dust and
want to move on and yeah, and see what everyone else has got.
So yeah, they'll we'll definitely have some bringing by
there. Maybe sort of.
During the lunch break, people can kind of circulate and do a
bit of Wheeling dealing. So yeah, definitely.
Nice, mate. That's good to hear.
I'm sure they'll be very popular, actually.
That kind of thing is really seems to be quite a popular
thing amongst these kind of old nostalgia games.
They'd like to have these tables set up where people can just
bring their old stuff along and people can pick them up and swap
them or whatever. So it seems like a sideshow to
the whole event kind of thing, you know what I mean?
So people like it? Yeah, absolutely excited about
it. Picking up a bargain on the day.
Yeah, well, you know, beats eBay prices for sure.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
I just wanted to ask a few more annoying nitpicking questions.
Obviously so like and obviously this is something you can.
Like resolved by October or whatever.
But with regards like something myself and Brandy Dog have often
like being annoyed at ourselves lately was we didn't have we.
We've slowly realized we don't have all of the strategy cards
and mission cards that were released across like you know
thousands of issues of Bloody White Dwarf and supplements and
all this sort of garbage have you guys?
Sort of. Got a set of cards and missions
that you're going to spread out across all the tables.
Are you going to go on to like the Warhammer 40,000 Second
edition Facebook group and download like some of the PDF
copies and print some out like it, you know, Office works or
something like that? Yeah.
What are your comments on that, I guess?
Yeah, I think, I think between all of us in this local group,
we definitely have got all the missions and strategy cards
covered. So, but you know, as far as the
mission cards go, I know there were a lot of specific ones like
to do with like you know Bunker Assault and that kind of thing.
I think we'll probably keep it. We haven't finalized this yet,
but I imagine we'll probably keep it pretty basic just to
sort of the missions, the basic missions that were included in
the original box, which is I think about four possibly 6
missions and just to just because they're very basic and
simple we haven't sort of talked about.
You know, if someone's gonna bring along Tyranids, well, you
know, they've got some special missions there, so we haven't
really sort of discussed that yet.
So there might have to be some exceptions made for them.
Tyranid attack is a particularly horrific mission for both sides,
yeah. Yeah.
So we might have to look at limiting that.
But yeah, as as far as missions go, I think we'll stick to the
sort of basic ones. Nothing too crazy.
And especially we don't want it to take too long because we want
people to get a couple of games in.
And yeah, as far as strategy cards go, I think we do have
most of them. We probably will print them out
just so that people who don't have them, you know, can utilize
them. And but yeah, I'm not sure I'm
personally, I'm not really sure what the like if there were any
sort of crazy ones released later now that.
OK, there's there's two particular ones.
Like, don't get me wrong, the most powerful card in the whole
deck is saved because you go to all this effort to kill the
other. Yeah, I only for him to go.
Ah, no. Yeah, but you've got cards that
came later like. Napalm run and strafing run,
which just drop a heavy template onto a squad or two.
Auto cannons light up a squad like they're pretty, pretty
brutal. But I guess with regards to
bunker assault, it's something that a lot of people don't play
because they don't have bunkers, but now like on Cults 3D and all
of those. 3D printing repositories.
You've got some beautiful bunkers that people have made
directly based on the old cardboard ones.
So yeah, FDM printer or you've got access to a print service.
You can print them in plastic rather than resin and they look
good and they're quite sturdy. So just that's just a heads up
for I guess anyone who's playing 40K lately and comes across
bunker salt and goes, oh what the hell, I don't know, bunkers.
There are options for you out there, but yeah.
No. And yeah, they're really great
prints too. They look amazing.
And there's been a few of those sort of old cardboard train
pieces that have been sort of converted into STL files.
It's amazing. Yeah, they look really great.
But yeah, these are just the weird sort of things.
I guess as a 40K player I seem to think about because.
I really didn't play second edition tournaments when I was a
kid. I played third and onwards and I
could only imagine how insane I would have driven people playing
second as a cheesy little teenager.
It was bad enough at the games club making people not want to
play, so hopefully people are more in the spirit of look at my
shiny, brightly colored army and how goofy it is rather than.
I'm a 14 year old cheese Lord let me out of.
No 14, no 14 year olds allowed at this event.
So yeah, no, I think, yeah, most of the people who are attending,
you know, resolved old gamers who maybe enjoyed the cheese
back in the day but have grown as people.
I hope so. Maybe you can know just
particularly have your camera ready for when someone who puts
their 300 point Space Marine captain on a motorbike only to
have it blown up by some like Voltas.
You know, like you've got to be ready for these sort of
hilarious things. I think that's playing second
edition lately. You really hang out for the most
ridiculous results on tables and stuff.
Yeah, so the spirit of the game is to see how much goofy stuff
you can pull off. Yeah, absolutely.
That's all part of the charm of 2nd edition and we wanna sort of
encourage that kind of thing. The big crazy moments that
happened during the game every so.
Yeah, we don't, We don't want to restrict that kind of thing.
We want to, yeah, encourage it, if anything.
Awesome. Oh, that's great mate.
Now I actually got to say it's due to that.
It's good that you don't actually have it as a
tournament. It's more like an open day to
come and just play and enjoy. And you know, it's more of a
social thing. It's more of get together,
connect with people. Maybe they didn't know that they
had other people who played second edition who liked these
old games in their area. So it's a good way for people to
connect and get together again. And possibly engage in other
games further on apart from the event in the future and keep
together. And that's the way we keep these
old games alive. So I think it's a good, it's a
good move that you didn't make it a tournament because a lot of
people who approach things with the tournament tag, they're
confronted with a lot of. Bad memories I think from second
edition back in the day maybe, Yeah, and I think it's a good
move that you guys just decided to just make it like a friendly
day to get together, play a few like round Robin type events and
just have some fun. Yeah, I mean we the idea was
floated that maybe we'd have trophies for.
You know, the person who had won the most games or gain the most
victory points throughout the day.
But yeah, ultimately we decided that we did want this to be a
casual kind of friendly celebration of the game rather
than an actual tournament. And so that's kind of, yeah,
what we're going for. Just to, yeah, encourage people
to have fun and enjoy a game that they might not have played
for. 30 years and I think putting a whole bunch of
restrictions, you know, tournament star restrictions on
the game is just kind of gonna be a bit of a damper on the
event, really. So yeah, I think keeping it open
but friendly is the way to go. Yep, that's good, man.
That's good issue. That's great, fantastic.
Now if people are listening to this on the podcast and they
wanna get in touch with it to find out more about it and to
register, how would they do that?
Yeah. So basically we have a Facebook
page for the event, and can you put the link to that in the
Notes for the project tool? Yeah, basically the event's
called sustained fire. So if you search on Facebook for
sustained fire, hopefully that will come up.
And yeah, that will kind of give you the link to the event.
There's also an e-mail address where you can register and it
costs $10 basically, and you can register and pay via the e-mail
address on the event page. And yeah, that's probably the
best way to go about it. All right, cool, man.
I'm just looking at the page now on Facebook.
And you have these wonderful Timothy White awards of these
scaled Goff plastic, which is amazing.
I really like that. I love the whole upscale of the
old monopose figures. I think it's a really
interesting thing and I'd love to paint one of those big
bastards, actually. I think they're gorgeous.
Yeah, I think they're great. I think it's a really good thing
just to have it just on your just to have it like that as a
trophy. To have them to immortalize
these wonderful monoposed sculpts, I think it is awesome.
But yeah, lots of great stuff in there.
So it's really, it's really kicking off.
So I think people should go and just check it out.
Anyway, even if you can't attend the event, just help the guy,
support them and just get involved with what they're doing
because like Stu said, people are gonna make.
These events available in their capital cities in Australia and
around the world and that's only good to see and it's really a
positive thing that you know, people can get together and and
find a local place where they can come and attend these sort
of friendly, you know non tournament game days where they
can enjoy second edition not only in 2023 but in the future
as well. So yeah mate, I just want to say
you know lastly that I hope everything will be a great
success and if not well. You're just gonna have fun
anyway, eat good food and hopefully drink some good beer
and you know meet some new people that you haven't met in
your in your own city that you you just didn't know they were
gonna play. They they played Second edition
and it's gonna grow. It's gonna, it's gonna evolve
from there. So lastly, do you think that
this kind of event, if successful, will continue in the
future? Yeah, Basically we're hoping
that if, yeah, if it is successful this year and we get
enough people along, then yeah, it's something that we'd love to
see continue on an annual basis. You know, people are busy with
families and whatnot, but I think, you know, one day or even
a weekend, if you know, we get enough interest a year, that
would be definitely doable. So yeah.
Yeah, that's definitely something that we're looking at.
Cool, mate. What's?
Well, is there a cut off to register or is it just in the
last day? Or was there a particular time
frame that you're working on for registration?
No, no cut off. So yeah, continue please to
register your interests. Send us an e-mail, let us know
you wanna come along. The event is on the 7th of
October, so. There's plenty of time.
If you've got some old miniatures you wanna paint up,
by all means go for it. If you've got new miniatures you
wanna paint up, go for it as well.
So yeah, no cut off at all. Okay and it's a good time of
year too, so it's not too sweaty.
In October in Brisbane it's quite mild and comfortable, so
that's a good time to have it mate.
That's great. Yeah, just a light sweat.
Yeah, mate, yeah, that's that's that's excellent.
So everything was very positive. Everything was very good.
I wish I could attend it myself with my orcs, but you know I'll
have to praise to Gork that the lucky numbers of my lottery
ticket will come up at between now and then and I can make it
down there and and attend the event kind of fix.
Are we going to have to do a crown?
Fun crowd fun for you mate, to get you down there.
So I. Need to get you up there.
The money, money part of it's not the issue, it's the the time
part for me. Sure getting getting some days
off from work, you know. You got to make this happen,
mate, but at least it's going to be as well, so you'll be.
I'm Kane, man. I'm Kane.
Yeah, get you, get you and Brandy dog and you know in this
booze bust. A booze bust.
Not a booze bust. Booze bust up up from Sydney to
Brisbane. It'd be fine, guys.
Great. Yeah, you'd have to like hire
some people just to take care of his miniatures.
Yeah, wrap my. You can stay at my place and
cuddle up with the owls so. All kind of, yeah, excellent.
Well guys, thank you very much. Again, thank you against you for
coming on and thanks again kind effects for your wonderful
informative questions mate. I couldn't do this because I
know that you have you have the brain for 40K second edition.
I just don't work on that same wavelength.
So thanks again guys for coming on today and talking all about
it and I just hope. Stew that for you guys there in
Brisbane, that's gonna be a massive success and a lot of
people turn up and it continues on forevermore.
Yeah. Thanks very much, Josh.
Thanks to both of you for having me on.
And yeah, we'll definitely update the page and keep
everyone apprised of new developments.
And during the event there'll be heaps of photos and whatnot.
So, yeah, stay tuned. Yeah, good work, man.
Awesome Okay guys. Well, thank you very much again
for your time. I really appreciate it and we'll
catch you again later. Hopefully Stu will bring you
back after the event and me and Can't Fix have a chat to you
about how it all went and talk more about that.
It'd be really exciting. And yeah, all the best, mate,
take care. Great.
Thank you very much. Thanks guys.
Okay. Thanks mate.
See you later. So I just wanted to introduce
you to everybody in the Cranic Command, So this is Brett from
Solar Oldhammer, I should say Solar Oldhammer, the the YouTube
channel, OK, that I've been following and subscriber to and
and we've been enjoying your unboxings of all the nice
goodies you've been picking up from eBay.
Yeah, I just, um actually secured some squats today for
Epic. Wow, really?
Yeah, so yeah, happy with that. Can't wait for them to turn up
as well. I've been trying to message him
at You've been a really hard guy to get hold of because I said I
was trying to message you, say I'll send you some squats, mate.
I've got some spare here but you never replied, so I'm glad that
we finally made. Oh, OK.
Yeah, and I have those all arches you're after full your
your regiment because you're like only at 18 or something.
You need another two, but I think you've got those.
Now, haven't you? Yeah, yeah, pick those.
Those two up now. I'm watching a lot of goblin
lots at the moment. It's a it's a disease.
But this is yeah, this is this is a good part of our hobby,
isn't it? Like the collecting aspect of
it, don't you think? Oh, I love the collecting.
Love the collecting aspect of it and sport for choice now.
Nowadays, like with my Empire army, I'm using probably going
to use Perry's as well. I've got Warlord at the moment
for the hail bodies. That was one thing.
I should have checked the boxes. Zoe handers like 2 handed
swordsman. They they come with hail buds in
them, but only 12. I've got to get another box to
make up the 20. So that was a bit of a shock and
it was like, oh geez, I told everyone about this that comes
with hail buds and I didn't tell everyone that it was, it's only
12. Oh, that's good.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I really enjoyed those unboxings you had.
Like, what was it? Space Hulk and Epic?
And yeah, you found your old Blood Bowl collection of models
and yeah, it's been and that what was it the, the regiments
of for now, is it regiments renowned or regiments?
Yeah, Regiments renowned, yeah. The plastic box it all the that
you got, you got like 10. Yeah, well, Hammer Fantasy
regiments. Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, I love that set. That was my first set too,
actually. It's my very first set of
plastic. Yeah, same.
That's some There was about four of us in high school because.
I didn't start until 1988 was when I got my first like games
workshopping thing, and when I went to high school four of us
pretty much tagged onto it and that's what's kept us together
ever since we still game. We haven't had a game of 10th
edition yet. They're they're mainly 40K40K.
Gamers. So yeah, they've sort of fallen
out with the fantasy. But yeah, I've plotted along.
That's what. That's why it's solo on him a
gaming just none of me mates play it anymore so.
Yeah, yeah, but mate, what was the very was it the very first
thing you picked up then from Games Workshop?
But how did you first come in contact with Games Workshop and
the whole wyama fantasy thing? Well, I was born in Forbes.
Rights make bang in the middle of NSW and we moved to like
Sydney area, Amy Plains, Penrith area in 1988 and that was during
school holidays so I didn't know anybody.
We moved up here or went with mom to the the local shopping
center and in the news agent there was a white dwarf and I
picked that up and. Yeah, about four pages in was
spread on Blood Bowl when it was like, Oh my goodness, like it
was Don Lane was pretty big on the ABC back then starting to do
the NFL. And I was, yeah, fascinated with
that, learned the game. And then I thought, Oh well,
Lord of the Rings for NFL can't get better than that.
So then. Mowed lawns, cleaned out fish
ponds and saved up money. And yeah, next thing I know
we've got a shiny copy of Blood Bowl from Galaxy Bookshop in the
city Back then, is it? Still around Galaxy Bookshop?
Yeah, it's still around. It doesn't have any Games
Workshop stuff anymore though, right?
That's. Just still there though.
That's. Amazing, mainly.
Mainly books. So, but yeah, it's I ducked in
there a while ago. It's moved since.
Since when I used to go in there like as a kid.
But yeah, nice mate. Still there, still there.
Lovely. So you got you got your Blood
Bowl set. Finally, after scraping all the
money together, what was your what were there any particular
teams that you really enjoyed like the Gauge eye or something
like that for the All Stars, All Stars that?
Was one too, Yeah, once I bought the Star Players book, the old
Star Players book. Then, yeah, it was Cats, All
Stars Morgue Signox. Duke, Lufilvan, Hawk Fire, Dirty
Dan, the Gobo. Like at one stage at high school
we had 2022 players. Wow.
Just. Just at lunchtime we we we used
to do like a little newspaper, the Blood Bowl Times and.
Brilliant. Yeah, 22 of us playing and we
made-up rules for the NFL. And yeah, so we could have downs
and that because they were in the companion rules.
But yeah, we ended up just doing our own thing.
So excellent, man. Excuse me.
I hope you still have those old classic Chaos All Star models,
because they're beautiful. Those original the original Jess
Goodwin Minis for Blood Bowl, weren't they?
Yeah, I've got me Original Morgue and Zonox and Dirty Dan
Jigglyphills and Hawk Fire. A few Chaos Humans.
For the team. And yeah, we went pretty full on
with like mixed teams then. So it was awesome.
It was good. Good times, good times.
Yeah, yeah, I miss it. Yeah, mate, Now you could.
You could probably play that remotely, couldn't you?
The old edition's a Blood Bowl. I don't see one.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, probably could.
Maybe Tabletop Simulator or something like that or.
There was on the old Hammer forum there was somebody trying
to set it up under with D20 or something I think.
But yeah, the Last Post for that was like 3 or 4 years ago.
So yeah, yeah. OK, mate but yeah, you're you're
sort of burning passion is third edition fantasy battle.
Would that be right? Yes.
Yeah, Third Edition Fantasy Battle.
That's that's the jam. And I'm I'm, I'm assuming that
you did actually play this back when you're playing group back.
Yep, yeah. In the hallway, on the floor.
Floor hammer on the corner. Yeah.
Yeah, floor hammer. The old niece can't take it now,
so upgrade to a table. I found, I found that out
playing battle masks again with my son, putting battle masks on
the floor. You know your body can't take it
anymore. He's he's OK.
My body. Yeah.
My knees handle anymore. But yeah, yeah, mate.
Yeah. That's how we all started.
We didn't have the flock tables that we had.
You know we saw on the page the white dwarf magazine or what
have you. Everything was on the car.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, definitely good. Good times though, like book,
book for a hill. And this book's a wood.
And around the corner of the hallway was where the elves
were. And good battles, especially
with that. That regiment set too, like,
because there was like four of us that played fantasy.
So yeah, 40 dwarves 4040 or 40 wood elves.
Some Dark hills and 111 of the mates he he carefully went into
like chaos Army so he had some Knights and stuff so and we
didn't really worry about points back then.
It was just whatever you had just choke on the table push
them around and roll some dice and.
Yeah, yeah, true. We did the same.
One, Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, where your group brave enough to fill out an order form
and send it to the UK with a silk like you know, like that
with the check or something like that to order your miniatures
from the UK directly? Or did you buy your stuff
locally? No, I've got it locally.
So once a month we've done save up whatever pocket money we had
in in the Galaxy Bookshop would go or Tin Soldier when it was in
the city. And yeah, just.
Go through all the blister packs and I miss blister packs.
I really do. Yeah, I love those.
I love those days. The the pilgrimage to, you know,
the to for me, Brisbane going to that big daily planet I think it
was called. I had a huge range of stuff
there and it was just awesome. I love those trips.
Yeah. Yeah, great memory.
Good memories, Good memories. When when you could actually
walk into like an independent game store.
And you don't have, you know, people don't have that kind of
experience so much nowadays, unfortunately.
Definitely, definitely. I can remember even Hobby Co in
the city used to have like dramas and cuz it was across the
road from Tin Soldier and as you'd walk down the stairs to
get to to Hobby Co there was dramas and everything in there
that was fantastic. They had a they had a little bit
of a selection there. Like Tin Soldier had a bigger
selection and Galaxy Bookshop did.
But yeah. Yeah.
Miss Miss those days. Lunch in the city.
Yeah. Good free blisters.
Come back with a new rule book. Yeah.
That was when I got Rd. Trader.
So yeah we played that. We.
Yeah, we flogged that for a wall.
Got the. Just to box it like the old
beekies and and that but yeah I did.
I didn't mind for I didn't mind Rd. trader and pretty much
played what whatever all my mates were playing but yeah it
was fantasy battle that was that was the that was the one that
got me. Me too, mate.
I I was the same. I I saw the catalogue.
From it would have been 898889898889 catalog.
Someone actually posted up in the 4th edition Facebook group
the other day. Actually, someone kindly posted
up that plus the painting guy. They were the first two things I
got after and that was the best mate for me.
That was just the greatest. Those ones.
That was true old Hammer. You know, like the first when
you open that page, it was third edition fantasy battles and you
saw these big regiments of chaos Knights and demons and all this
kind of stuff. And yeah, I was just like, yeah,
this is it for me. That was the best page, you
know? Yeah, yeah.
So I'm missing the even in the Army books and that now like I
missed the like the old they'd show you some of the staff's
armies like in the 3rd edition Army book, like Kev Adams's ones
there. I'm just about to do a video,
actually on the local Army review.
Yeah, but yeah, I really. Missed that even in White Dwarf
where you could buy a complete army for £100 or whatever.
Yeah, I really, really miss that.
You can send a check away. And yeah, yeah, we never did it
though because it was like pounds.
What the hell is that? Exactly.
I never did it either because it
would be just too scary a thing to do.
I don't think my parents would ever get into allow me to do
anything I need to get their check.
My father's chair. So I had to wait until I came to
Australia and then I finally put an order in.
But I don't know if I hand wrote it out or it was.
It was pre Internet. It was.
We didn't have Internet back then so we must have, must have.
The order form. Yeah, but we got it.
We got the stuff. So it must be.
Yeah, but. And we faxed it.
I think we faxed it then. Oh, OK.
Yeah, fax machines, you know. Oh.
Well, sure, it rage now. Yeah, I know mate.
Tell you what, Yeah, but I'm hoping, I'm hoping you can
actually play third edition in person with some.
There must be someone in Sydney, mate, because Sydney and
Melbourne are massive like in terms of like gaming culture,
you know, in terms of tabletop gaming culture, there are a lot
of guys there who who live and play there, so.
I'm surprised I found anybody locally in your area that you
can get together with and have a game with.
Yeah, not, not yet. I haven't found anybody yet.
But yeah, hanging out hope. So it'll be if you are in the
Sydney area please get in contact with us so.
Yeah, definitely. Touch with Brett some third
edition or play some second edition Blood Bowl or whatever.
You know, epic space. We've got 444 armies for. 3rd
Edition now so and pretty soon. Hopefully that'll be 6.
Wow. Only only 1000 pointers, but
yeah, like my undead I can filled out to about 4000 points
now yeah but yeah, the in the in the walks are slowly but surely
gathering. It's good, man.
That's excellent. Yeah.
I, I I don't know about you, but I found like I play 4th edition
primarily. That's my that's my kind of
edition but. I find 1000 points.
It's just a nice little afternoon, bit of fun, you know
what I mean? It's not, yeah, unwellly.
It's not. Doesn't take forever to play.
But 1000 points, this gets you what you need within a very
short time frame and still fun. Exactly.
Exactly, exactly like I saw. Was it Ian?
I'm standing on YouTube. He usually does a lot of epic
stuff, but he's done a couple of third edition battle reports
and. Absolute gold.
Yeah, I saw that. Good aren't.
They really, really good. Yeah, I thought to myself, oh, I
have to really pull my socks up, But that's well, I started the
channel to get more 3rd edition content out there because yeah,
that's the edition that I've always loved.
So yeah. You seem to be tattooed all over
the leg, probably. You need the solo old Hammer
Gaming tattoo just on your chest or something like that'd be
good. No room.
That should go somewhere. Else, Yeah, but that's good,
mate. That's good.
Yeah, because I yeah, that's what I enjoy about your
channels. Just, you know, I think most
people, even for my channel too, people just like looking at the
miniatures, like looking at the games and books and stuff like
that. Maybe the gaming is sort of a
secondary thing for them in in a lot of ways, you know, they just
love looking at the nostalgic aspect of the miniatures and
the, you know, the the physical parts of the game more than the
actual canical parts of it kind of thing, you know, Yeah.
Yep, yeah, definitely. But I love your battle reports
and I think really did. And the painting tutorials gold.
There'll be plenty more to come, Brett, Don't worry.
Plenty more to come, mate. So yeah, actually, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna do. I'm doing an old Hammer Chaos
warrior at the moment in pink. Doing a pink tutorial.
So. So that's true.
Old Hammer, mate. True.
Jez. Good.
Or yeah, 80 would be 9088, something like that.
Yeah, yeah, they're the best. Yeah.
The greatest. Marauder, marauder range of
Chaos Warriors were fantastic. And Jez's Chaos Warriors are
brilliant. Yeah, that they're they're the
golden age of chaos. I think that third edition, it's
just the best. Yeah, for me.
Definitely those Realm of Chaos books.
Bit daunting when you're. Satan.
Satan worshipping. When I when I first the 1st
edition playbook and that's a anagram and all this kind of
stuff under the magic section and stuff like that, they'll get
a bit worried about it because I thought, well, what's this is it
was pretty dark, wouldn't it? Oh yeah, it was.
It was dark, but. Now the the illustrations my
like John Blanche and just awesome awesome awesome stuff.
Well even the more Hammer army's book with the little
illustrations down the bottom like some Hawks running around
fighting some dwarves and up the side of the book and I think
they did that like 4th and 5th edition in the in the rule books
and the army books for that as well and.
Yeah, it's all those little things that when you when you
read it and then you reread it, that you might have missed the
first and second time. That's true.
Yeah, yeah, it's the yeah, it's the part of the stuff that I
love. Like I'm just looking at my book
collection now and I'm, I think I'm a bit obsessed because I've
got 4 copies of Warhammer Armies. 4 copies.
Yeah, 4 copies. You never know.
Four people might turn up to play if we all need a rule.
Book. Wow, that's mate.
That's great. You're building the library.
Don't rent a copy, you know? Yeah, yeah, I've got.
I only got one copy of Realm of Kale's books though, right?
I have to fix that. Yeah.
Yeah, see, probably Siege is my favorite book.
I think of the 3rd edition won the fantasy line lineup.
I think Siege was my favorite book.
Yep. Fascinated with warfare?
Never got to play it, but I love the book.
Yeah, well, say I've never, I've never played a siege battle as
well. I played siege battles in 5th
and 6th, Yep, but never ever in 3rd.
So I got the mighty fortress a while ago.
Always wanted that but never got it.
I had I've got the the plastic one that come out.
I think it was 6th edition. The plastic one came out and I
picked that up because I was working at amp in the city.
So payday straight down there picked up a fortress but yeah
never got the mighty fortress when it when it first came out
like the 80s early 90s. But finally got a copy of that
and that's what I'm. Painting towards Now I've got
the the wolves are finished. I want to do the scenario in the
in the back of the book, so that's what I'm painting towards
now. Nice, mate.
That's excellent. Yeah.
I think, I think maybe you and me of the same kind of mind that
we like the scenarios when I when I recreate the historical
battles. Really aren't they though, Oh.
Yeah, definitely. Well, I've got them.
Oh, was it bloodbath that? At Aux Rift Aux Rift Mcdeath.
I haven't got the terror of the leash master yet, but yeah,
keeping an eye out for for one of those.
But what? What's the different?
What's the bit like? Have you played second edition
Fantasy 1, the fantasy if you played it?
Never played, Never played second.
Is there a massive second difference between the two?
Isn't there's well? Is it the stat line?
Stat lines are. Differently, OK.
Very, very different. I think that they were even
still in letters back then, Some of them.
Or was that first edition? Yeah, maybe you're right.
There's like an ABC class or something like that, yeah.
That's the that's the bad thing too.
Like because I've been playing since 3rd and we went up until
8th and then once they once they ended it, don't want to talk
about that. Once they ended it, it.
Didn't bother me mate, because I was way out of it by.
Then, well, see, there was all these characters that I'd grown
up with, you know, and loved, and then all of a sudden they'd
been slaughtered. And I was like, what the?
How can you do this to me? I don't know.
It always seems to be like. Every time I I end up liking a
character in a in a novel or anything like that they always
seem to cark it. But just I liked Boron me.
Yeah. And the Rings and he carks it.
I loved Roy Foker in robotic and he carked it and it was like, ah
well, doesn't matter what character you like in warmer,
yeah. At least Patrick survived, and
he survived somehow. Yes, yes.
Yeah, that's been, yeah, listen to those a lot, doing a bit of
painting on, yeah, audio book, so.
Nice mate. Yeah, The Scavens Slayer.
I got that on audio book. I found it somewhere online.
Absolute classic. It's just so funny.
Hilarious. Trying to find the Conrad books
because they were the they were the first the first like
Warhammer novels that I that I ever read the IT was.
Like the Conrad Conrad trilogy boy.
Brian Craig, I think. Right, OK back then.
But yeah, that was that was that was pretty far out when they
first come in. It was like, holy moly, don't
have to just read little snippets in rulebooks anymore.
There's a whole novel. And it was quite good too.
Yeah, yeah, I was, I was, I was. Interested to see that, or
surprised to see that Rick Priestly even wrote some of the
short stories. Yeah, I think it was in
Wahhammer Siege. Was it Wahhammer Siege?
House Books. Yeah, he wrote, he wrote some
short stories in there. It's on.
It was on the the the podcast series The Odd Is it The
Oldhammer Fiction Podcast? Lewis Lewis.
Sort of recites these stories and and that kind of thing.
Yeah. He he did a whole, he did a
whole section on one of the third edition books.
I think it was Siege. And Rick Priestly wrote some of
the stories in it, which is really interesting.
Like he he's just done everything that guy.
He's worked in the mail order, sculpted models, painted them,
you know, in the studio and wrote stories, designed the
games. Yeah, I know.
It's unbelievable. He just did everything.
I could believe that. So yeah.
The picky's point for even 5 minutes would be just amazing.
Just to find out all the all the, yeah, all the things for
3rd edition that that didn't come out.
Like, I'm pretty sure they were planning like a Lustra
supplement, right? Second or third edition that
they were planning that, but my. Friend's this land?
Yes. Oh, if I could collect those.
If somebody's doing third party slam, please let me know.
Well, you probably want to see 10 per hours die hard miniatures
then. Oh, OK.
Die have miniatures. Yeah he's just, I saw in Twitter
too that he had he he does. I think he does more than the
models that I saw there. But I know he does a whole range
of like lizardman type slam, like proper slam old hammer slam
figures. And I know Kev Adams did some
too, he he designed some SLAM models as well for another
company. So yeah, you can find them.
I'm sure there's other people who do it too, but I can't think
of the top of my head who I saw it where I saw that on a
website. But yeah, you can find them at
near the old styles, you know? Cool.
Won't be checking them out of this for sure.
Yeah, yeah. Because you're you're not,
you're not like, you know you're open to.
Using third party models you're not sort of, you know some
people have you know in the Oldhammer community.
I think it's fair to say some people are like really picky
about it. You know they they only, you
know you can only use the real appropriate models that will use
at the time and there's nothing else you can use.
There's no if it's at later edition or is a third party
model they sort of you know stick the nose up to it kind of
thing. But you're also about using
anything. Yeah.
Yeah, Yep, definitely. Why I'd like to have I'd like to
have the miniatures from like the like the blue, the red and
the green and the black catalogs.
There's some, yeah. Sometimes the wallet says no.
Yeah, I know much. Yes.
But if I could pick them up in a lot.
Awesome you know But yeah, just yeah, just sometimes the.
You know what? Most of my purchases are bought
to you, boy, after pay. Sure.
Yeah, I know you mentioned that a lot.
For easy for easy payments, they should be sponsored by US way.
It's. A good system, then it breaks it
down, makes it, makes it, you know, makes those purchases a
little bit more safer and you know you can, you know, a bit
more ease of mind, really. You know, knowing that you can
pay it off over four time, over four months, that's good.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely do.
But then you just buy more. That's the that's the problem,
you know? Yeah, that is the problem.
That is the problem. You're blinking.
It's like, oh oh wow, yeah, men cannot survive on food alone.
And some noodles and bread made. That's it's the week.
That's right. It's all have a lost.
Definitely know it all too well. Know it all too well.
But yeah, I've. I don't know.
I don't know about you, but I've come to the realization that you
know, I'm really content and happy with what I've got.
And I'm just gonna keep painting the lead pile.
I saw this guy. I forget his name.
Sorry, it's hammer the backlog. Maybe you're familiar with this
channel on YouTube. Anyhow, commented on some of my
my video on the Britonian banner.
Tutorial and I thought, I'm going to check out his thing
because I saw his little logo and he has this plan.
He had this plan about a year ago where he took he said I'm
not going to buy any more figures.
I'm just going to go back paint all the stuff I've got in my
lead pile which is hence the name hammer the backlog.
And he quartered them off into four sections for four quarters
of the year And then he he's doing a video series of okay
after each quarter he will show you exactly what his progress is
on his painting and I think it's a really.
Good initiative. It's, it sounds like he's in a
board meeting like that's the way he's talking about.
It's OK. In the first quarter we're gonna
paint this lot, you know, da, da, da.
I tip my. Hat to him because yeah.
And. He breaks it times and how many
hours he paints and how many minutes is it that can
realistically be, you know turn into reality at having painted.
And yeah, it's a really good approach though I I really like
that idea and we should do that more actually.
We should really start concentrating on finishing the
projects that we had. You know, years ago that we
started and if never finished, then we sort of picked up
something else and you know, we were all, we're all guilty of
that, I think. Oh yeah, I'll definitely guilty
of that. But I had that.
Um. Man Mangler and the Chariot turn
up the other day and I'm already on and off a so some other stuff
as well. It's like oh wow, it's Roller
Coaster Network 4 easy payments. That's right, four easy
payments. Well, even PayPal do one in four
now. Oh, really?
Did they OK? Yeah.
Yeah, that was that was a bad day, discovering that, actually.
Yeah, temptation, mate. It's dragging in.
Yeah, well, that got me me Mighty Fortress, So.
Yeah, actually I've got mine too, mate.
I've got mine the other day, not so long ago, about a month ago
now. Ah, yeah, yeah.
I had. I had the plastic fortress.
And I swapped it with some guy in the US for the mighty
fortress. So I was oh.
Very good. Cool.
That that plastic thing might just drove me nuts putting it
together, it was just insane. Like every time you every time
you put trying to put it together and glue it together,
it just wouldn't glue and it just come apart all the time.
And the plant and the foam one. I think I had one of those, you
know, many years ago, but 18 years ago I bought one off eBay.
And it's beautiful thing. It's a beautiful kit.
It's like, pull it out-of-the-box.
It's already assembled. It'll pull the doors.
You just stick in there. They can open up and shut.
You got little ladder trap doors and oh, mate, it's beautiful.
Gorgeous thing, yeah. Love it.
Absolutely Love it. I don't even.
I don't even know if I'm brave enough to paint it, you know?
Yeah, I'll see. That I'm forward about it.
I'm forward about it, but I don't.
Know I think I might just airbrush it.
I don't think I'll even. I think I'll just airbrush over
the straight over it because it's got that.
You know that sort of the texture to it because of the
foam, it's got some kind of texture to it.
I think just brushing it and you never really noticed the the
finer texture to it. You know it's got that kind of,
I don't know how you how you describe it but the polystyrene
has a certain kind of finish to it when they when they extract
it through those molds that kind of thing.
So you can see the little small round little.
Arcs on and that kind of thing. But you know.
Yeah. I mean, definitely.
As long as it's painted, it's okay, you know, even just
out-of-the-box in the light Gray.
It looks nice too. I don't think it.
Yeah, really. Well, that's probably how I'll
do my siege battle with it, I think.
Yeah. Yeah.
I haven't got the good jungers. The last thing I want to do is
start fighting it and then just watch the dissolve.
Yeah, no, yeah, that's exactly, definitely, definitely do not
hit it with an aerosol that's that's that big.
No, no, don't do that or melt so.
Oh yeah. That was a lesson I learned when
I was, what, 13? The second blood bulb picture
was like, oh. What do we do?
We did it. We all did it.
I'm sure we did so.
Or or. I stuck my hair request models
into some kind of hideous emulsion.
I don't know what it was. It was something.
Not acetone, but something. And it melted them, you know?
I didn't know. I had no idea.
You know, I try to strip the paint off from my original hair
request models. Put it into something and then
it just started melting. I was like, no.
And of course you can't replace it or you had to buy another
set. Yep.
You learn those things along the
You know when you climb that they'll have a mountain mate.
That's doing it. It's a big mountain, I think, or
the. I did an empire painting video
the other day and just nothing was going right.
Didn't matter which way I put my phone.
Yeah, black screens on the side. It was just like, Oh well I
didn't turn the phone off and then rebooted it and.
It was. Real.
Yeah. It was a.
It was a long it was a steep mountain that day, Yep.
But got there in the end. Staying cool.
Staying all there. Definitely, because I just saw
the the Britainian standard bearer the other day that
they've done. I don't know if I like, like the
premade banners. I don't know.
Yeah, I really don't know in the and it's in resin.
I don't know about resin. Baskets.
I mean, I really feel sorry for people getting into the hobby
and they have to deal with the resin.
Like their resin. Oh boy, that's just hell.
That would be hell, yeah. And then of course all those
really fine bits like the banner poles and and like lances and
anything like that, they make a resin or just snap.
Yeah. So easy.
So yeah, I do not, I do not. Do not envy anybody getting into
the games with your hobby. Deal with that's.
That's really terrible. It's a horrible way to start.
That's another reason why Old Hammer is so much better than
the old wood will ever be. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
And we're going to take a quick break and when we come back,
we're going to talk more old Hammer man.
So just bear with me. We're gonna take, we'll come
back in just a second and I'll ask you some more questions
about Old Hammer, because we're all very interested, you know
what I mean? Alright, we're back after a
break. So Brett now, mate.
Oldhammer, what's what's on the project desk right at this
moment? At this right at this moment
I've got. I've just finished 20 orcs with
hand weapons and full command I've got. 10 arches on the on
the painting table right now I need 10 arches. 10 walk arches.
Then I need 30 goblin arches. I think 3030 just like goblins
with hand weapons, but I've only got Spears.
But in the army book they come as they come with javelins, so
that's. A good point, because in the 3rd
edition Army book you had like. Requirements to fulfill like as
in a unit. You have to bring 20 of such,
you have to bring 30 of such. You know what I mean?
It's not like you can just pick and choose what you want.
It's like you have to bring a minimum of something and then up
to up to a maximum of something, Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
And I like that because that gives you the, the feel of the
Army. Like, yeah, well, employer has
to have at least 10 crossbowmen and 20 hail bodies.
Hawks was at least 2020, boys. I think it was 20 goblins with
what stickers and 2020 stabbers. So yeah, they come, they come
standard with hand weapon, shield and javelins right back
there. So that was a bit of a, that'll
be a bit of a nasty shock for me.
Norse I think. Yeah, getting ready to charge
and. Awesome 3rd edition?
Yeah, lots. Lots of good war machines too.
Like ball throwers. But yeah.
Then again, like. Can't fool war machines.
You can't go past the skull. The old skull chucker.
That's probably one of my favorites.
You did quite that thing, and you just take a fear test.
Yeah, That's right. Yeah.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and I think like fear and
terror was much more dominating back then I had.
I did a. 1000 points of Norse and undead and yeah, towards the
end it was it was the fear that that broke the Norse army and I
thought that wasn't really even because I didn't take characters
enough for the north army. But yeah, but even though like
the magic back in 3rd edition on, I prefer that the.
Everyone's got access to the same spells.
Like if you're a necromancy, you had to take at least one
necromatic level spell with each, like at each.
Yeah, I think I like that, but I've got like good memories of
like, I think it's called chasm. There's a spill called chasm or
something, so the ground just opens up OK Yep, mate was very,
very upset as these chaos nights come around the corner in the
hallway and my Empire wizard blasted them with that spill and
they all fell down it. It's quite upset because he just
finished. Paying them and I heard really
brutal stories about third edition magic and that you
couldn't dispel it. Is that right?
You couldn't dispel spells that are cast against you is.
That there was there was a spell that was like called dispelled.
That was that you could use after the fact.
But yeah, after it, OK. Yeah, some some of the most of
the time that you had that, if it was it was a spell that
affected you, like gave you a fear test or anything like that,
you could have a magic safe. But yeah, a lot of them just get
blew up in your face. But if you if you don't make it
too overpowered, then yeah. It evens it out a bit, and I
like it too because dwarfs had Wizards.
Yeah, yeah, they did. Yeah.
I've actually got one wizard dwarf that I have to paint up.
I was going to use them for advance your request, actually,
because in advance your request you can take dwarf Wizards.
Oh, sweet, yeah. Which is awesome.
That's probably. One of my.
That day of that era? That's probably my favorite
game. Advance your request.
Yeah, never played it at all. It off on the old Hammer
mountain, mate. It's gonna be up there at the
peak of the mountain 4. Easy payments, mate. 4 easy.
That could be that could be a good series, actually.
You'll love it cuz it's solo play, man.
This is the thing about that era.
A lot of those games are solo play.
So Master Request, solo play, Advanced Space Crusade solo
play. Yeah, and I think there were
quite a few other ones that had the solo RPG that mark on those
boxes, you know, so they had solo rules for them.
So you should definitely get into those because you can play
them solo and make videos on them.
That'd be great. Definitely be checking that.
Out. Yeah, they sent another purchase
on your horizon. Yeah, definitely.
I'm just going. Take some notes.
That's it. Take some.
Notes. Yeah, definitely.
I think, I think Jervis Johnson, like with Blood Bowl, I think
he's one of the the greatest game designers.
I mean, a lot of people, you know, talk about Rick Priestley
in game design. Of course he's a fantastic game
designer. But you know, looking at
Jervis's work, I mean he came up with some absolute classics.
Awesome, cool cuz yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, Epic. Well.
Even Block Ball was a whole, yeah, epic.
Space. We had a lot of involvement in
that. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, the games he designed were fantastic, you
know, really, really good. And they still held up in time
over all these years. People still play them.
Blood ball being probably the biggest one, yeah.
Yeah, Huge block. Well, computer games,
everything. Like, yeah, just expanding it,
but. We're definitely going to check
that out if they see. That doesn't get much better
than that. It's like 4 gritty heroes
against the Scaven in the in the original set.
But then you could they've got like you know all the the
monster matrix matrixes for everything, for Chaos warriors,
for demons, Chaos thugs and like oh it's just real old hammer,
you know it's it's in scenarios in the old white dwarf.
So you have against the orcs and goblins.
Yeah like Gotric and Felix they were like based on it was based
on a story by Bill King. One of the adventures they they
they went on this story in one of his novels when those those
short stories they actually answer your request scenario so
you guys yeah mate it's it doesn't get better than that I
think that's for me that the the the height of gaming for me
advance your request. Yeah, yeah.
Let me give that a go for. That's what I'll be doing now.
I'll be flogging that. You'll be on eBay.
Shut up Josh. I'm going to get eBay now and
have a look. Yeah, let's.
Get this interview right now. Definitely going to be doing
that, but that was that was. Thing that I did like about the
the older games and the older rules as well, they had these
they had these little addons like for Dungeon Bowl I think
they had Jervis Johnson did some rules for wandering monsters and
I found those rules in a old magazine called GM like that
wasn't even in a in a white dwarf.
I think it eventually came to a white dwarf but yeah I found it
in a GM magazine so. And that just added like giant
spiders. Oh ogres wiven as well I think.
But yeah, it was a heap of different monsters that you
could just Chuck in your dungeon that it just attack anybody.
So which which changed out and made it a different game, you
know. So yeah, didn't didn't mind
dungeon bowl either but. I've got I still play Blood
Bowl. But yeah, I missed the.
I missed second edition. I really do, really, really do.
Just the just the positions from all the players.
You know every team had throwers.
Every team had blockers. Every team had catches and
lineman like, yeah, missed that. Is that making teams rolling up
star players? That's pretty much ruined my HSC
Blood Bowl of Warhammer. We'd finish a day of school and
we'd be walking home and someone would say, oh, what are you
doing today? And he's got to study.
You know what? HSC is coming up.
So want to play Warhammer? Yeah, right.
Crash study the night before the exam.
I say, yeah, yeah, we did the same, mate.
I yeah, I was sort of, yeah. Once I got hold of Games
Workshop on White Dwarves, that was it for me.
That was, you know, education was lost, you know, don't even
bother educational materials. I could recall if I could recall
all the Warhammer information like the stuff for school could
be said, but. Yeah, my father said.
He said if you if you put as much time into studying as you
did with painting and and all your miniature gaming, that kind
of buddy genius by now, right too, because that's all I did,
you know, this is totally infatuated with it.
So yeah, couldn't help it, you know.
Yeah, so. And I've got the that'll get you
nowhere. Talk.
Yeah, yeah. And now look at it like.
Yeah, exactly. It's worth a fortune.
Yeah, that's right. Yep.
That's. Right, Yeah.
Did you have a stage where you just got rid of everything?
Was there a stage where you just got rid of everything, or did
you always keep your stuff and never sold it?
Kind of thing? No I I.
I started the I pretty much started the the YouTube channel
during a horrendous divorce. And yeah, I didn't know it at
the time, but yeah, by the buyer sold a lot of stuff to pay
bills. Yeah, so to speak back then and
then yeah, you get. Through that part and then
discovered because you got a joint account that didn't matter
how much overtime you did or because I've pretty much lived
at work for 16 years and yeah that was getting money was
getting siphoned off to a private account and it wasn't to
I went for the divorce that I that I found out about that.
So just so I was sold. 2 Two 4th edition Empire armies, a mass
massive space, Wolf army, Dark Elf Empire, Britainian and Dwarf
fleets for man War. Man War.
The box game itself, Second edition Space Hulk.
Few copies of Mighty Empires. These never ever parted with me.
Blood Bowl stuff though, and I never parted with the the rule
books or the Realm of Chaos. Stuff that was hidden.
I hid all that. Like a floor for higher
treasure, mate. That's it.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, that's pretty much why
I started the channel, because I.
Just moved out of Mum and Dad's again and I was renting a flat
and I was sitting there in the four walls and I was watching
watching YouTube a lot. I wasn't watching Free to Air
because there was no aerial. I was, yeah, I was watching a
lot of old hammer stuff and yeah, I wasn't in a I wasn't in
a good place and it was pretty much.
Painting and riding my motorbike that kept me here.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So let me see now. I thought, you know what,
Margaret, I'm going to give it a go and coming up like at a
bulleted gate, did a few, did a few uploads and then sort of
left it for a bit as I was going through the what, the whole
process and everything. Mediation and then the property
settlement and everything like that.
And then I was, I moved back to mom and Dad's because I couldn't
afford to, couldn't afford rent and all that child support.
And then when I moved into this place, I thought, you know what,
I'm going to pick it up again. And it has been more more
constant now I've got. One of the rooms I've got set up
is where me table is and everything.
I've got another spare room that nobody ever stays in.
So because Mike's older now, so yeah, yeah, so I just thought,
I'll bug it, I'll put a studio in here and then I can do do
some. Content and me painting and
everything in the one spot and game in the in the next room and
have everything set up ready to rock'n'roll.
So yeah, nice bit. Yeah, yeah, that's what that's
what, yeah, started all that, started the channel and then,
yeah, it's sort of become a hobby within a hobby, you know?
Yeah. Learning about editing and.
Sound quality because I know my sound quality's been bad.
That was something I had to work on big time.
I don't know because when I when I first did the introduction
thing for the channel, I wanted a warhorn and.
Yeah, I didn't realize that. Sometimes that's bloody
deafening. I had to learn how to turn it
down. So I've got a habit to habit of
talking really, really quiet. So don't want to bloody hear me,
'cause they turn it down for that stinking war.
Yeah, that Warhor might be going yet.
I don't know. I.
Don't like that. I like that part of it.
It's good. Yeah, I know what you mean.
I know what you mean. It's the it's the trials and
errors of, you know, of working at all this stuff that we're
not, we're not really accustomed to that kind of thing.
You know, maybe your kids generation, they're they're
just, you know, they're into it. You know, like my son too, he
just finds all this kind of stuff about it that I don't even
know about. You know what I mean?
Like they're just so tuned to it.
For me, it was really difficult getting into it because I had
never done anything like that before.
Never done. They had never done filming,
never done podcasting and that kind of stuff.
So yeah, for our for us that have not.
If we're not, it's not part of our daily job routine or
anything like that. It's something, you know, we're
learning new skills and we're sort of, you know, working it
out as we go along. But we're getting it, yeah.
Yeah, definitely. But that's what I would ask you
to feel like when you do your your videos and you've got like
the heavy lead. In the lettering?
From what? Back in the day?
How the hell do you do that? Oh, you just download it for
Freeman. I'll send a link.
Thank you. It's just a font.
Someone's got a font on there that you can just download, and
there's a whole range of them you can get for free online.
And yeah, you just, I'll show you.
I'll send you some, I'll send you some links and stuff so you
can improve. I've been sitting here trying to
draw that. I even went out and bought a
bloody a drawing tablet. Oh, wow.
OK. Oh, it's a font that you
download. Alright man, I didn't know
anything about this sort of stuff until people told me about
it. So we're all trying to help each
other and uh, and getting, you know, getting the assets and
stuff we need to make our videos look more authentic and that
kind of thing, but you know, looking.
Back at the, you know, looking at back at Advanced, he requests
all those old box sets before computer computers became a
thing in desktop publishing and that kind of stuff.
They, you know, if you and you had seen that too from from
pictures on from online, from Facebook, old Hammer artwork.
That guy in the UK, he sometimes publishes stuff that he gets
from artists that had been sent to him and you saw the graphics
that they would paint out, they would paint.
And draw out and paint them and then they would use that as like
a as like the logo for the box sets and they would have that.
They would actually put it like, I don't know, I'm not 100% on
the process, but basically it was outlaid on a screen or
something and then they'll have to take a photograph of that or
they would have to. I don't know, scan it somehow or
what have you use that for the front covers.
It wasn't done by computers. It's all done with paper sort of
on a on a some kind of layout kind of grid or whatever.
And they'll take photographs to it and they'll use that for the
front covers. Before it became before you
could actually scan things into a computer and do it that way.
So it's just amazing, isn't it? Like would you think about that,
how long it would take all the battle reports, you know, that
was done just with little. Yeah, have.
To put on a, you know, lay it out and take photographs of it
and all that kind of stuff, yeah, it's just insane when you
think about that. Even the old graphics and that
while I was watching someone the other day that was doing that,
he does a lot of 2nd edition 40K stuff.
He's got got the graphics and stuff.
For the old battle reports and the old pictures like
dreadnoughts and things on YouTube.
Taken Ed War Gaming Is it the guy from?
There. Yeah, I think of it.
I think it's him. Yeah.
There, that's.
Yeah, there's some nostalgia right there.
Yeah, yeah. So you know all that stuff
again, but but when I was doing those.
Some boxings. I didn't know if it was
nostalgia or boy degrading 1980s police story, and I wasn't sure
that could have been a problem. Yeah, maybe I should have better
guess my score. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
I think. And I'm gonna say, like the
packaging back then was much better than now because like
nowadays all I do. Yeah, for the modern sets, they
just throw the they just throw the spruce into a box and that's
it. Into a box?
Yep, that's it. You know like nice, you know
polystyrene trays and they put all the miniature pieces in this
different segments and your transfers will be in there.
Plastic spruce your arms and stuff like that would be great.
You know nowadays is just chucked in the box and that's
it. See you later and the.
So there's very minimal packaging then.
But yeah, no, I think we, and you know, I seen the other day
that people getting to the hobby now, we have never, ever seen a
metal model, may have never have a have, you know, had to use a
metal model, have to buy it or put it together, prep it and you
know, that kind of thing. You know, we're coming to an era
where people never have ever seen them, never held them.
That's amazing. Well, I can still remember when
they went over to white metal cause.
Yeah. Let is bad.
Yeah, yeah, You're not eat this product.
Tell that to all the fishermen that are making sinkers, you
know? Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Yeah. Yeah.
Never even thought about it. Just oh wow, new miniature.
Yeah, Well, I think that like the guys in the foundry, they
would smoke, smoke cigarettes. And then what was he saying?
They used to smoke or something like that.
And then they, that's right, they they were touching the lead
and going out a cigarette and of course they would in the lead,
the through the through the butt of the cigarette and get
poisoning. That's one of the issues back in
the day. Yeah.
So smoking and being a a mold maker or caster or miniatures
good profession basically they're not a good mix.
Was it a Baker in the Middle Ages?
Yeah. Yeah.
Then, yeah, white metal came in, as you said, white metal, which,
which was better for the larger kits, the larger models, yeah.
You know what I mean? No more droopy necks or wings or
things like that because I would just sag after a while, yeah.
I remember that I can't find him, but I used to have the old
Marauder giant, don't know where he is.
I don't think I ever sold him, but he's just yeah, one of those
one of those miniatures that seems to.
Cracks. Yeah, I know.
It's like huge. I'd definitely like to get that
one again, yeah. Otherwise 4 easy payments Brett.
4 easy. That's right, always 4 easy
invites. Problem is when if your 4 easy
payments account to two grand a week.
Yeah, that's the problem. That's the catch.
Yeah, wow. I don't.
I think my wife would have a a new set of testicles to.
Pin up on the wall out here at the southern back on as Basil
faulty would have to say. You know that's right.
Coffee, can't you? Yeah, those days are long gone
for me, my friend. But like I said, I'm happy.
I'm really content. It's it's an age of contentment
now. I'm at, I'm at the, I'm at the
top of that. I'm at the end of the pinnacle
of the Oldhammer Mountains. Yeah, I've got my collections
now and now it's just the process of painting everything.
Yeah, painting stuff for other people now.
Basically painting their their glorious leg piles and stuff
like that. So that's been a good good fun
too. But but mate, you get your work
cut, cut out for you because you go like epic now.
To do, yeah, epic. Yeah.
Did you play Epic back in the day?
I had one game of Epic at a Games Workshop store.
No, no. In Sydney.
And yeah, never really got into it after that because we were
fantasy battling and 40K, but it was always something that was
that I wanted to do. And yeah, when I started the
channel and I saw, I got a couple of sets for pretty good,
pretty good deal and I thought. Yeah, why not Now I just got to
get the supplements and yeah, slowly but surely tracking,
tracking those down, I got the the last one the other day, the
oak one. I was lucky in that one of the
the starter boxes that I got it had the tyranny attack and the
the imperial. Wow, you got the tyranny attacks
it. Yeah, that's one of the most
rarest, highly sought after supplements.
If that's complete. You just made-up all your money
there mate, and just that one box.
That's alright. Well, I'll never part with it.
Never. Part with it.
Otherwise come and see me. Yeah, I don't part with stuff
now. The other on divorce, that's. 4
easy payments, 4 easy payments, £50 a month.
Definitely. But yeah, no, that's really,
really rare. That that said, because it was
the last one they brought out was the last supplement.
Oh, OK. And it was it.
So the circulation of that particular set is in very low
quantities. So to and then find it, complete
with all the tokens and stuff in it.
It is very, very rare. So if you got it mate, that's
great, fantastic, good for you, I'm happy.
For you, I'll have to sit down and double check that see if
it's complete. Because it when it came, it came
inside the no box, but it was in the second edition starter box
and all the cards for it were in one Ziploc bag and the Imperial
one was in the other Ziploc bag. So right.
But already know, which I mean I'll be doing for the epic up.
Try to squat. So it'll be orcs and then my
beloved space walls. Right.
Well, that's good because space walls have some unique rules
apart from the other Marines. So they're probably the coolest
ones, actually, because, yeah. That's what I like about them
space Vikings that have got like, yeah, different stuff.
Like, how can you go wrong? You can't.
That's a good choice. Choice nice.
Yeah, I have to guess. Baseballs.
Anyway, I've got them tatted all over me.
I'm so I can't play an army I haven't got a tattoo for.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Nice mate.
That's wonderful. Well, you got, you got your work
cut out for you mate. So we've got plenty of videos to
come up soon then of you playing maybe a siege battle, which
would be excellent. Really looking forward to that.
Yeah, I'm chipping, chipping away, chipping away.
But yeah, work schedules, a bit of a sniffer at the moment.
So yeah, but every, every opportunity I get on sitting at
this table now listening to the podcast or yeah, yeah,
definitely the podcast. I yeah, sat down and listened to
a couple episodes yesterday while I was painting.
So that was, that was good. Or an audio book or yeah.
Just chipping away, but I'm really, really looking forward
to that. I wanna, I wanna get that siege
battle out because that doing the siege battle will give me
the the grounding for a dwarf army and a Auckland goblin army
as well. So then I can get them on the on
the field of battle as well. Then how are you?
Gonna go about siege towers. Then I'd probably have to
scratch build those, yeah? I think I'll scratch build them.
I think I'll have to do those same, yeah.
Yeah, I had. I did see a couple on on eBay,
but I need my kidneys. So that expensive?
Yeah, the old 5th edition plastic ones.
Yeah, one of them was like 3-4 hundred dollars.
Oh, you're kidding. That's crazy.
You can just read them, 3D print them.
Yeah, that's right. Now that that that should be on
the cars, there should be 4 easy payments you can.
Print as many as you like, yeah? Maybe a satin two or something?
Yeah, that's it, That's it. I mean, for that kind of stuff,
I think 3 printing is, is that this the way to go?
You know, especially like even the and I love all these old
plastic skeletons, you know, the original 3rd edition skeletons,
but. Yep.
Well, that plastic, it's 30 years old.
It's brittle as hell. Miles, miles are just printing
them out. You know what I mean?
You know? That's my undead army.
Is all those all from the like the what was it the skeleton
skeleton army box set that come with like 24, yeah eight horses
or something, 2 Chariots and. Yeah, I love that army.
Yeah, that's awesome. Maybe they're okay.
It depends. Depends on the quality.
It depends if they've been in sunlight, you know, for long
periods of time of their lifespan.
If they've just been in boxes, they should be fine.
But yeah, I think, I think you know the the ebaying kind of
route or getting stuff on the second market, you've got to be
really careful, especially and metals and that kind of thing
for just the aging aspect of it. But yeah mate, you looks like
you've got your work cut out for.
I really look forward to your videos for solo old Hammer
gaming and and I think people should go and check you out if
they haven't already and and stuff like that babe.
Because yeah, I like all those unboxings and you know you
playing the games the 3rd edition, because I think you're
the only person doing it. I think you're the only guy I've
I've seen on YouTube doing 3rd edition stuff so it should be
celebrated mate. Cheers.
Thanks everyone. Good to meet up with you mate.
It's been really nice to chat with you today.
Sorry mate, I was, yeah, I was pretty chuffed when you asked me
to come on and have a chat because I've been watching your
channel for. Songs I love, I love your
channel. I love the painting tutorials,
the battle reports, some of the whole Man of war stuff that,
yeah, that brings back some memories.
I love that game. Put it.
Down your notebook, Man of war mate.
Man of war is the next one to get apart.
From Advanced Hero Quest I think will be the next big purchase I
think. Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, the solar games, I think,
yeah, if that's your if that's your thing, I think you'll be
really loving that. And I'm gonna do that soon too.
The advanced, your request solar play series.
Sweet. So yeah, yeah.
So stay tuned for that. I want you to do the same,
though. I really want to see your
adventures in the old world, The proper old world, mate.
I'll have a wrong world. I love it.
But yeah, don't have to be a solo old hammer channel like.
Yeah, if anyone in Sydney area wants to get together for a
battle by all. Means please, no please, please
just e-mail me and I'll get in touch with you.
But what's your e-mail mate? Well, how do they contact you?
Solo Oldhammer SO S OL0 0LD HA double m.er@gmail.com.
Easy mate, that's great. Soalltime@gmail.com Easy.
So yeah, people want to get in touch with Brett, and even if
you don't live in Sydney, but you're going to visit Sydney or
we have family there or something like that or whatever,
Yeah, get in touch. And exactly stay at the Long
House for a game. You got it.
Yeah, you got you got to stay bed or just sleep.
Sleep under the gaming table. That's even better.
You know just for that. That's right.
It's all Dick effect. Yeah.
Sleep on the floor under the gold and the gaming table next
to the 90 Fortress. And that's right.
McDonald's for dinner and give your right.
That's. It all right, buddy?
Will you take care of yourself? OK.
And you too, mate. You climbing that old Hammer
Mountain? I will, mate.
I'll be staying cool. I'll be staying old.
Good on you, buddy. Take care, OK?
See you. Bye.
Thanks Josh. See you.
Bye, bye.