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Hello. 
And thank you very much for 

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downloading this episode of the 
crown of command podcast. 

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In today's episode, we're doing 
an interview with one of the 

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members in our community from 
around the world. 

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I hope you enjoyed our little 
interview and our discussions on

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the wonderful games that were 
from the gangsters of error in 

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the 90s, or maybe something that
was inspired by one of those 

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games from the 90s. 
Who knows, you'll have to wait 

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and see. 
But if you would like an 

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interview with me, at some point
in the future, please get in 

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touch with me through either 
through the ankle podcast, email

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address, or through the crown of
command podcast, at gmail.com 

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All through my YouTube channel, 
I look forward to hearing from 

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you. 
Okay, well let's get on with the

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episode. 
Okay here we go guys we are like

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we're here with Camp Fury. 
Can't is now incapacitated after

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a horrific. 
Was it a might mountain bike 

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accident because the mountain 
bike accident, but I was going 

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so fast. 
I got treated like a motorbike 

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accident. 
I bet ya looking the photos. 

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You sent me. 
I was like really quite shocked,

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so, yeah, it's made me feel 
sick. 

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Oh good, good, did you say the 
bone? 

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No, I didn't say the bone. 
Thank God. 

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I'm not looking at picture ever.
Oh, good good. 

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I like to share these photos. 
I was actually sitting in the 

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ER, awarded the emergency Ward 
and they give me so much 

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morphine and I'm just sort of 
sitting up and the the Doctor 

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Who's like a little intern sort 
of guide is like, all right. 

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I'm going to start scrubbing it 
now. 

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Do you want to look at it? 
And I'm like Yeah, I got feel a 

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thing, go for it and he's 
sitting there and he's scrubbing

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into it. 
He's like literally getting 

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tweezers and like pushing into 
my leg and then pulling out 

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twigs and pulling out stones and
Pebbles and I got so gross, but 

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also High didn't matter. 
Yeah, just ate my breakfast. 

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Thanks, Candice. 
Let's hope that's what I'm here 

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for moving, right along. 
So you're alive and you're 

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alive. 
Yeah, yeah, I'm here for you. 

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I'm here for you. 
That's right, that's right. 

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Right. 
Yeah, okay so let's get let's 

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jump into it. 
Can you give us a brief very 

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brief history on your one of my 
history. 

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Well, how many history, right as
a 40K DieHard until 1996 when I 

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was working for Games Workshop 
and they had a Warhammer staffed

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ornament to try and drive a bit 
of, you know, Warhammer type 

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sales in Games Workshop, and it 
was 1,000 points. 

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It was a 500-point, slow grow. 
So you had To paint up by 250 

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points. 
I Growers had to pay 250 points 

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per month and the end of it. 
We had a tournament, no magic 

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items know anything else. 
It was just raw armies. 

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So going to the I think that was
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goblins. 
And the High Elves is that right

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now that says fourth edition, 
fourth edition was on the go. 

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So that's what we were playing 
and I think it was because we 

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had 50 Edition coming with the 
britannian. 

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That was coming out very soon, 
so was it just released? 

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I don't know. 
Anyway, I everyone went off in 

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chose, you know, big super duper
armies and what sort of stuff 

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and I went. 
What's the most underrated Army 

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in the whole game and I'll an 
Empire went, right? 

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If I can build an Empire list 
and beat all the staff with 

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Empire. 
And yeah, we're talking dark 

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URLs with like, multiple shots. 
We're talking chaos. 

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Bloody, you know, Lord's running
across the field. 

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Udon Juggernauts, and this sort 
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And I went nuts. 
I'm going to create this Empire 

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list anyway. 
So long hard thoughts because, 

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as, you know, working Games 
Workshop. 

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You have some spare time to work
on your own ideas and projects. 

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Yeah, just a bit. 
I have lots of 

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this is before scenarios, really
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So every game was pretty much a 
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So, I developed this tactic with
my Empire Army, and it proved, 

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so successful that I ended up in
the Grand Final against the area

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manager of the time. 
I need an epic battle between 

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three Giants in 1000 point game.
By the most amazingly converted,

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awesome Giants, and Jimmy should
be very proud of those. 

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I came out the Victor, I was one
of the first tournaments over 

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actually fully one. 
And from that point on, I just 

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spent, you know, what, Empire 
for life I am now 100% Empire, 

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man. 
I pretty much gave up 40K that 

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day and spent the next. 
It wasn't 96 for makes 2000. 

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So 24 years. 
I've been playing Empire through

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every Edition since 4th edition.
And this Army that handsome. 

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So the Army you see, there is 
actually the original army Okay,

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so you just sent me there just 
scrolling through just before I 

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really like that. 
That light wizard, you did the 

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paint job on that looks really 
nice and the colors of the hero 

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on the Pegasus looks very nice 
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Yeah. 
So he was actually use a pretty 

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interesting model because I want
to left Games Workshop. 

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So I left Games Workshop in, I 
think 2000, just before 2000 and

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I had enough, I literally quit. 
What am I for almost 10 years? 

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And all I had left was so pretty
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I shouldn't since I played every
Edition, I miss 6 Edition pretty

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much and I never picked up a 
miniature until my first son was

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born and I painted that Pegasus 
Rider with my first son was born

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because I was bored. 
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my wife, never actually knew the
full extent of my nerdism. 

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She has all the time in all 
those things, and not knowing 

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how much it was. 
She's a silver. 

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He must be able to do awesome. 
Yeah but she's someone Surfin 

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Surfin. 
Yeah, that's awesome. 

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So that's what, that's what you 
want is you want to live in 

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Australia? 
Just come back from Australia. 

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This live in Japan. 
So I've been stuck here 

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otherwise. 
Yeah, otherwise makes you wanted

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to spend on the plane straight 
away to beat to live on the Gold

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Coast where I'm where I'm at, 
because it's like basically, the

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surface is the surfing Mecca. 
Well, you got the second one 

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which is your castle where I am.
Yeah, let's get some coffee with

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your place mat and go surfing or
something. 

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I'll just play with you. 
That's right. 

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That's fine. 
Tell me about you, mate. 

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How did you get into warmer? 
What hooked you I was her 

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request first. 
So got her request is like the 

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first-ever fantasy game and then
I was sort of my son like intro 

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into Games, Workshop through 
that board game sent away for 

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the pamphlet. 
As I think a lot of people did, 

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From my era and then got the 
catalog, little red catalog that

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came with it. 
So, it had all the Third Edition

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will hand it back in those days 
and all the, you know, the 1st 

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Ed Rogue Trader, 40K and epic 
and all that kind of stuff. 

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So, yeah, we now got a copy of 
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but of course, in those days was
just a book, like the box sets 

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later, came with all the 
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that came up, much more 
accessible, that you can now, 

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was it out of the game. 
Was that war have original book.

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Was that also, Out of a 
role-play book or they two 

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separate books. 
That's his total to you. 

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But they did have rules in like 
the role play book that if you 

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wanted to find a mass battle, 
you can. 

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They're all compatible based? 
All right, cool. 

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So did I didn't really play 3rd 
Edition, I just really liked the

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look at the pictures and I love,
I fell in love with the dwarves 

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and and just just basically 
just, you know, Google doable, 

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all the pics and all the battles
and stuff that in there. 

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And it wasn't till 4th edition 
set came out that I really got 

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stuck into it. 
And found guys this is all pre 

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internet. 
Guy said, like this is way way 

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before the internet ever came 
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So it's basically looking at 
note boards and game shops in 

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Brisbane. 
Looking for people who played 

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this game and and trying to hook
up with them. 

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And so, I eventually did and 
found clubs and that kind of 

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stuff. 
And really got into the painting

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aspect of of the, of the Hobby 
and never look back mate. 

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Yeah, and your painting is like 
next-level. 

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You do know this, don't you No, 
it's very simple. 

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It's all right, honey. 
I'm not really start painting 

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Rosy noses and like, Cherry lips
and different colors in the 

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eyeballs, that puts you two 
different level and my friend. 

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It really does. 
It's honestly, it's not that 

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hard. 
Yeah, you're a painter. 

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We did the trader terminated for
another blog that I do, which is

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40k Harris e.com with three of 
my mates from Games Workshop. 

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And we came up with a 
Terminator, we will have the 

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Terminator Captain, we decided 
to have a paint off, and I put a

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lot of time into it and then, 
you know, you put a lot of time 

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into something and you just All 
right. 

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Now, III so self-critical. 
I was like, you know what? 

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It's going to suck because the 
main guy mix there, he's a 

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really good paint. 
He's a really clean crisp 

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painter and no matter how hard I
try, I'm not that crisp, I'm 

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very, I've got a more of a 
grungy style of painting and 

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like, it just annoys me but you 
need, you need someone like that

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because I had the same thing. 
Like, you know, I met Marcus 

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when I first got into like the 
Hobby and that kind of Of thing 

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and he's like, a really good 
painter. 

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And I was like, he was like, the
sort of The Benchmark that I 

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wanted to get. 
So it's good to have someone 

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around you. 
Like that money. 

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Makes it sort of ended. 
They don't teach you anything, 

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it's just like okay well that's 
sort of more a steaming to you 

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to get to that level and you 
sort of try and try and try 

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harder and harder until you get 
to. 

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I got my painting to a level 
where I was, I'm I would 

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classify myself in a top sort of
tear of painting, but then 

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there's literally like, now, 
with the internet, you look at 

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some of the other I say I 
consider myself a good painter 

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but then there's artists and I 
thought it's yards. 

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Are just a complete different 
sub genre from painters. 

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Yeah, yeah, that's right. 
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If you look at something like 
Dave, Sabo who's been around 

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since I was ever since I was in 
the hobby, like, back in the 

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night, like yeah, iits he still 
painting. 

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Now here's like a graphic, 
graphic designer for all these 

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Life as a professional. 
From graphic design and then he 

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quit, and then he went into full
time, she's 

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and still knocking those 
ministers out, and he's still 

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got the same level even higher 
than that, much higher. 

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Now, but the technique that guy 
has is just way beyond my ever 

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T. 
My, my expectations I could, and

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I think that's part of it as 
well as City your expectations 

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with Honey, as we get older, 
we've got more commitments and 

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you're not going to get as much 
time as you want on a single 

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miniature. 
And if you like me you want to 

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crank out Miniatures for armies 
and that's what I tend to do 

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now. 
But it is really nice. 

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Focus is to do. 
One miniature for a change. 

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It was actually quite nice to 
get that. 

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Yeah. 
But we my Empire Army. 

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I've painted a lot for ranks and
then I've gone back and read 

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done them and because I've had 
the Army for so long, like I 

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actually go back and repaint 
whole unit sometimes or just go 

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back and touch it up and make it
more fancy. 

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I love it. 
I can't stop seeing with it. 

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I'll go through and I'll do it 
too late. 

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Yeah, it's a good fun, you know?
And I always say to people like,

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you know, maybe you're not happy
with the certain standard you've

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got now, but you can always go 
back and and go over things that

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you're not happy with. 
So what was your main Army? 

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What was the army that just 
grabbed? 

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You that said that's the Army 
and I am this for life. 

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Instead dwarves. 
Yeah, it's quite sad to admit 

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that but I had to get the so 
costly that buying the ministers

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that have wanted at the time but
it was never an actual Army. 

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So always gain with the High 
Elves and I had a for. 

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I'll yeah me because you know 
because you just got This is in 

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the set and you just had to get 
the character models and what 

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kind of thing. 
So, I played with High Elves 

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until all the way through 4th 
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UK and work for Games Workshop. 
Then when I came back, I brought

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a whole chaos Army back with me 
for 40K and fantasy. 

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And then I eventually swap that 
and traded it for a night, 

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Goblin Army and that got me on 
the possession of night goblins 

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and as fell in love with them 
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And then I did have some dwarves
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We sold them or swap them or 
something like that was quite 

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tragic. 
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years ago that I went and then I
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hammer and this whole sort of, 
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thing started kicking in and I 
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Okay, that's it. 
I'm going to buy my dream dwarf 

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Army and I did, I'd spend about,
I don't know. 

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But $700 I think. 
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that. 
And dysport all the units and 

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all the models I've ever wanted 
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And now, but it also. 
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just absolutely love them. 
I've always loved the books, 

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I've always loved the law behind
them, it's just that I never 

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really got to got to them onto 
the table. 

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So but yeah, this is the best 
magician like fourth edition. 

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That fourth edition rulebook is 
the best addition to Clayton, 

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you know, I think So it was it 
always Empire for you. 

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Might like your Empire was like 
your, your dream Army that 

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you've collected and painted and
play with all these years. 

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If you've played, I don't know 
because you didn't really play a

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seventh and eighth, did you? 
I had two games of a tradition 

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or three, that three games a 
tradition with the guy in that 

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local store with my or God. 
Yeah. 

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Me and it just wasn't for me 
made it just didn't play six. 

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I didn't play seventh, so 
playing eight. 

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It just wasn't the same game. 
Now, it's a very different style

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of game but just to give you an 
idea, dwarfs got fast. 

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Yeah, so you could easily run. 
Infantry armies of dwarfs and 

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dwarfs became very maneuverable 
and it's just a really rock 

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solid Army. 
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but you could also get out there
and just get amongst it. 

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One of my one of my arch-nemesis
Daniel, he was he always played 

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dwarfs, I always played Empire, 
we'd play in tournaments, we'd 

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be both of us, would be sort of 
pushing up towards the top. 

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We meet each other in the 
middle. 

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And for four consecutive 
tournaments, he beat me. 

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I was always always going in 
red, hot favourite and I'll 

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always come out losing to him 
and I'm just like, for God's 

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sakes, things like my Cannons, 
all my cannons are blow up or, 

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you know, any key moment, my 
whole Army would run away, or 

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you know what I mean? 
Just just the Empire luck like, 

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it, just God. 
Like playing Empire sometimes 

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can be the most soul-destroying 
because you're always up against

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it with Empire. 
And that's one of the reasons 

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why I've always liked playing 
him because for me to be human, 

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in the Warhammer world was an 
image of absolute fear and 

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Terror you here you are standing
on the battle line with the hell

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bird. 
There's a light bit of tin on 

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your chest and here comes an 8 
foot or running a. 

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Are you just, you know, You're 
up against it. 

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It's just always up against it. 
I love that feeling for it and I

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remember will playing in a one 
of the very early warmer 

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tournaments over played in and 
it was a team tournament and it 

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was three player tournament. 
You had a first tier second tier

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third T, and we were coming in 
first and all I had to do was 

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win a game and all I had to do 
was not fail a break test at 

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8:00. 
I've failed twice. 

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So how long they are? 
Tell you I lost our entire 

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team's tournament based off one 
leadership role. 

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And I only only lost because it 
was a fee causing unit or 

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something. 
And I had to make a brake test 

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and I was like, and I was is no 
worries. 

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It's tonight. 
I've got my jaw go. 

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I gotta be as be here. 
I've got this. 

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I got that now worries filed the
first one. 

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No, no. 
She's right father segment. 

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Oh no. 
She's right. 

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That's gonna go. 
Okay. 

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That's all right. 
They'll run. 

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And I'll just regain, and 
they'll come back. 

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And then I rolled a two to run. 
You said about my role, that's 

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what my role. 
Also, whole tournament for art. 

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I'd say, just based off that you
like come on. 

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And the you know Empire of done 
that to me. 

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And then I've played the number 
one, Warhammer pyre in a 

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tradition. 
He later became the number-one 

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player in Australia at the time 
he wasn't but he was playing a 

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beastmen army and I beat him in 
the first term. 

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My cannons fired off. 
They rallied they they destroyed

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a few units which caused a 
simple taneous Panic across his 

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entire Army. 
One unit would flee the next 

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year, would flip it, and they 
all float off the ward. 

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He had nothing left. 
So, you know, you get your apps 

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to get you Downs. 
You know, it's one of those 

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things in one of my but yeah, I 
can see where you're coming 

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from. 
When you come from forth, only, 

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like, fourth is a great addition
and, you know, leading into what

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we're going to talk about today,
which is warm renascence and how

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they've brought in a lot of the 
different elements. 

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So you probably played a little 
bit more of it than I have and 

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I'm more of the history. 
So give us a bit of a spiel 

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about 100 renascence. 
Well, I just had a game 

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yesterday with a friend of mine 
that was it was done online. 

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So he was playing remotely. 
As you know, we're sort of 

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keeping to the social distancing
rules at the moment and it's the

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only way we can actually get a 
game. 

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I was like just I was just so 
I'm just so fed up with like you

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know being separated not be able
to go down to the club and not 

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be able to roll some dice with 
my mates. 

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So we said, okay well let's try 
it and see how it goes. 

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So we have look at the rules 
All's he will to the rules more 

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extensively than I did. 
We have more time to sit at home

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and do it. 
So, basically, to give a brief 

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overview, the person who wrote 
these rules is man from Denmark 

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and he has a, he's name is 
bolder, and he has his own 

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Facebook group on Facebook, 
Facebook group, on Facebook, 

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called one, a Renaissance. 
And I've been a member for, I 

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don't know, a good six months or
something, now, or more. 

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And I was just like, just Just 
looking at all the photos that 

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kind of thing. 
I didn't know much about the 

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game and it had it had an 
interview on the podcast with 

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him. 
And since that interview, I was 

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more interested in Keen to have 
a look at the rules. 

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So have a look at the rules. 
Basically, it is built on the 

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4th edition set of rules and 
mechanically. 

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But then he's added, a few rules
changes or modifications to the 

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mechanics from later editions 
that work better or work, you 

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know, maybe he was more here. 
I found that, you know, from 

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playing for through 28, that he 
found some elements of those 

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games where they just work 
better. 

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So he basically says it's a 
rewrite of the rules, but 

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essentially it's just wama as, 
you know it, it's just you need 

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to go through the rules more in 
depth to just check all the, any

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of the changes. 
So, so going past that we had a 

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game yesterday playing dwarves 
and night goblins. 

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Now, the, the Army books, Based 
on the fourth edition Army books

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and he's included some little 
additions. 

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Maybe units that weren't in 
those books but were later found

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in the sixth to eighth edition 
books. 

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So for example, dwarves have. 
Now golf ranges that can 

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Skirmish and that can scout. 
So that's awesome for me because

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I always wanted to play the 
Bergman ranges, but then they 

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weren't never, they'll never in 
fourth edition. 

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So I can actually Only play 
those guys. 

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Now, they've also got the minor 
rule. 

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So the miners do with minors, 
they can make up. 

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That's that they can tunnel and 
sort of pop up on those things 

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are. 
Vicious go for minors. 

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Are always vicious. 
Yeah. 

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Well, I don't actually have the 
models and I didn't but I 

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thought well, I'm not going to 
really play miners that much of 

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that think, but now I really 
want to get the get a unit of 

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those guys don't actually play 
them because they look really 

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hope your I'm sleeping all day. 
Going to cost you a fortune. 

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Maybe I had a chance to buy a 
whole unit of 20 for about 100 

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bucks Australian and I said to 
the guy at look I'll get back to

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you and then he quit this 
particular form that Isles. 

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I think 
the magic system is based on the

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fourth fish and magic set. 
Yeah. 

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Okay. 
Magic. 

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Okay, magic battle Magic. 
Well, battle magic Arcane magic.

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And yes battle magic and then 
yeah yeah yeah. 

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Yeah, yes they would do with a 
three male, three magic 

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supplements that there came with
fourth edition plus he's 

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included. 
Some added magic items that he's

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created himself. 
Maybe with his friends there and

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he's playgroup so essentially 
it's basically fourth edition 

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with some added components from 
other editions. 

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In that I went through some of 
the main hearing Through some of

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those magic items he hasn't made
him up there. 

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Just parts of other parts of 
older and newer ones. 

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Yeah, so I've been through it as
well. 

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I actually went through it. 
I always go through these things

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because after the death of 8th 
Edition, a whole group of guys 

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got together and built 9th 
Edition which was built off. 

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All the things that was good 
about 8 and then they went 

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about, they had the right 
intention. 

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They wanted to make the game, 
Tournament level game. 

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Therefore making everything Fair
even and very calculating, the 

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downside to it was reading the 
rule book was like reading a 

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engineering textbook All right, 
tell me about us or a guy down 

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down to that club. 
He brought that he bought that 

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man. 
Yeah, it was some kind of 

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biblical biblical proportions 
down to the car. 

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Yeah. 
And it really strangled for me 

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is strangled the life out of the
game, but it taught me a really 

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valuable lesson and that is that
built within the Games Workshop.

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How should we say, business 
model? 

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And whether they did it 
intentionally, Tension, Leah, 

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but I got a feeling. 
I didn't do it intentionally to 

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start with, but then they've 
worked it out over time. 

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And it took me a long time to 
realize this, that bringing in 

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an army book, that breaks the 
system is actually good for the 

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system. 
So everyone wins is about 

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overpowered armies, right? 
Leave you some is to overpower. 

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This is 2. 
This is 2. 

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This is 2. 
This but yeah, they are. 

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But that gives you the ability 
to then get creative with your 

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old army to try and overcome 
this new powerful theme. 

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It really makes you think. 
Okay, so like, for example, Dark

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Elves, when Dark Elves came out,
I think it was in 7th edition. 

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They were just so disgusting. 
It was ridiculous. 

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And in the hands of a good 
player, there are unbeatable 

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like they'll let your top tier 
Army for a very long time. 

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You have these hydras are under 
pointed running. 

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Across the field, flaming, 
everything, killing and 

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destroying and my God, he had 
like a Death Star Lord that 

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really couldn't be killed here. 
R2 plus Ward saved and another 2

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plus save. 
And then anyways, ridiculous, 

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but taking my humble Little 
Empire Army, I'll still able to 

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beat those armies. 
Yeah, I mean that gave you a 

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massive sense of Pride and 
enjoyment. 

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The fact that you actually were 
able to take on a top-tier 

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inverted, commas top-tier Army 
and then come up with a 

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strategy, a cunning strategy to 
beat that army or exploit their 

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bad deployment or the luck of 
the game. 

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Just got the better of it and 
your Cannon just snipe. 

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It is General in the first shot.
Yeah, I mean like that was the 

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sense of adventure for it and 
when you get a game like night 

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at Feels Like A Rang out all 
that Adventure. 

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Trying to shit on the geyser 
play 9th because they are really

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a bunch of good bunch of guys. 
Just the game just wasn't for me

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because the fun of it wasn't 
there anymore. 

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You know, this is very common 
because I've never played nine 

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tonight. 
I'm certainly not begrudging the

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that that system because it's 
obviously created for a bunch of

446
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,300
people who really enjoy it and 
get a lot of enjoyment as 

447
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:28,000
applying system is actually 
really good to play. 

448
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,900
It's just hard to learn, man. 
This is hard to read. 

449
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,900
It is. 
That's one thing I'll say about 

450
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:37,900
the Renaissance rules. 
It's all in black and white 

451
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,200
print. 
It's not the most aesthetically 

452
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,800
pleasing on the eye and it's 
quite difficult to get a look at

453
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,100
the stats and that kind of 
thing. 

454
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,800
So that usually just turns me 
off straight away. 

455
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,700
If I see black and white, you 
know, Word documents, I like, 

456
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:55,200
no, no thanks. 
I'll just stick with my color 

457
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,600
rulebooks. 
Thank you very much, even though

458
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,800
ironically the fourth edition. 
Yeah, but they were always good.

459
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:07,700
Rubeus always have a very good 
time, like the voice very light,

460
00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:10,300
they're very easy to read. 
The Riders were really good at 

461
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:15,200
doing it and I unfortunately, it
created terrible gray areas 

462
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,700
within the rules, which would be
exploited by rules lawyers, but 

463
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:22,500
at the same time, but at the 
same time played among 

464
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,800
gentleman, which is what all the
games were designed to be in the

465
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,600
first place. 
I'll never designed to be a 

466
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,200
tournament game. 
Play the monks gentlemen, it was

467
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,500
always easy. 
It was always nice and was 

468
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:33,800
always Pleasant. 
Aunt. 

469
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,700
And that they'll bring to my 
most important point, is that 

470
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:45,200
The when he wrote the rules for 
this, he wanted to bring a lot 

471
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,200
more clarity and take all the 
ambiguity. 

472
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,600
Yeah, that's fair enough. 
So basically, if he said you can

473
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,500
do this or you can't do this and
it's it's sort of cutting all 

474
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:58,100
the gray areas and it's cutting 
it all the arguments and cutting

475
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,900
out all the sort of doubters to,
you know, maybe this can do this

476
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:05,400
or yeah, bullshit out. 
And basically it's just giving 

477
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,500
you a much cleaner gaming 
experience and I think that's 

478
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:11,800
probably the main aim. 
Of yes, sir. 

479
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,700
Some of my mates actually had a 
game of it. 

480
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:17,200
The other night make make 
Kendall, who is actually the 

481
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,600
very first, you know, Kendall. 
He was like this one. 

482
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800
The Masters, would you believe 
it with an? 

483
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,600
It was an Empire Army. 
Would you believe? 

484
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:26,900
I do believe it. 
I've seen the guy play. 

485
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:30,300
He's freaking actually, he can 
actually table you when he's got

486
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:34,300
a grade 10, hangover and just 
vomited, then come out and still

487
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:42,400
beat you and be grumpy about it.
And he He's a monster. 

488
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,000
When it comes to these 
especially Warhammer he gets it 

489
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,200
on such an intimate level that 
watching him play is quite 

490
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,500
masterful, the poor unfortunate 
soul that played in got 

491
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:55,100
absolutely shredded but they had
a really fun game of about. 

492
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:59,400
I think 1500 points. 
You know, he plays his Empire. 

493
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,900
The other guys playing. 
As soon as she demon army, they 

494
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:04,300
had nothing but rave reviews 
around it. 

495
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:08,200
So that's a good sign. 
And like a place, like New 

496
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,700
Castle, Legions is where we're 
here. 

497
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:13,400
We hail from. 
I'm like that's how club with a 

498
00:31:13,408 --> 00:31:15,500
master's of resurrecting dead 
systems. 

499
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,100
We've resurrected every dead 
system known to man from epic to

500
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:26,600
Bloody War Hammer to 2nd Ed 40K.
You know if it's a dead system 

501
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:32,100
will find it and we'll play it. 
Can you can you reckon your 

502
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,100
resurrect old what's-his-name? 
Is it? 

503
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,100
Here's the old bloke there again
is. 

504
00:31:39,200 --> 00:32:09,300
Well yeah. 
One of the strongest Edition, I 

505
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:12,000
was on a podcast called Point 
Hammer, which was the first 

506
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,800
podcasting bloody war hammers 
show in the world. 

507
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,900
And we had a massive following 
and we were, you know, the guy I

508
00:32:19,908 --> 00:32:22,200
never got to go to tournaments 
at that stage because I was very

509
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,800
busy. 
But the guys that were also 

510
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,600
involved in the show Kendall 
being one of them went to every 

511
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,300
single tournament around 
Australia and they were washing 

512
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:31,700
face. 
So a really good at it. 

513
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,700
They're loving 7th edition 
they'll really going at it. 

514
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:40,200
Then we run a 24-hour podcast to
raise money for us to go over to

515
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,200
a depth of coin, on the release 
of eight division, we all played

516
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,900
it and half the crew, know 
two-thirds of the crew. 

517
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:50,800
Just went this game shit. 
We don't apply it and pull it 

518
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,900
out and just went that's it. 
And that was a death of the like

519
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:56,300
there was a death of Warhammer 
for those guys they never want 

520
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,200
to play one home ever again 
because I thought how dare you 

521
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,400
do that? 
Little did I know in three years

522
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,300
time äôs was going to come and 
destroy it even further, which 

523
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:09,200
is just a freaking mind 
boggling. 

524
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,600
I understand, I get it from a 
business sense that Warhammer 

525
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,900
was like two percent of their 
business and like 50% of their 

526
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:19,600
stock line. 
I getcha all right, I get you. 

527
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,800
But for god sakes, don't leave a
vacuum because you had, I 

528
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,900
remember seeing God burning his 
army in freaking on the YouTube 

529
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:36,300
like it's, it was astounding to 
me that you would There was such

530
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,200
a like the etcs are the biggest 
sort of event in the world, 

531
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,300
right? 
European Team Championships 

532
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:45,500
Warhammer was as big as 40K, 
right? 

533
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:49,900
As big Mighty 40K, might have 
been bigger, but etc' Warner was

534
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:54,900
as big and they were willing to 
Bulls to them for doing it. 

535
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400
Cut the whole bloody game off 
and go. 

536
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,400
You know what? 
We're destroying all of it. 

537
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:05,100
Screw you guys, you know, maybe 
you've been painting the same. 

538
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:09,600
Even 26 years, screw you. 
You can put them on round basis.

539
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,199
You'll be excited about that. 
I can guarantee it. 

540
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,600
No, I'm not excited about that. 
It's a shit idea and then the 

541
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,800
game mechanic was the same as 
40K. 

542
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,000
Fuck that. 
So I don't do you want to swear?

543
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:27,699
But I was so I was so goddamn 
dirty because I am literally 

544
00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:32,600
Rockland to the core like I'm 
the car friends, Fanboy of 

545
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,100
interna T. 
And the fact that he ascended 

546
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,000
Has to be a god awesome but not 
so awesome. 

547
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,300
The fact that I lost my right 
Glenn forever and so to the 

548
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:44,500
point where I was literally 
posting things on iOS web sites 

549
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:48,400
right Clan forever. 
Oh yeah, people will try to 

550
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,500
convert we have an ALS I just 
leave the comment right Clan 

551
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:55,900
forever you know you're going to
you know the passion that we all

552
00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:59,000
have for our armies and like I 
know all those guys in the pot 

553
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,200
and the days and myself and then
a whole bunch of other guys 

554
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,100
still have their treasured 
armies in display cases. 

555
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Cases waiting for something so 
they can pull it out, play it 

556
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,500
because we all love Warhammer 
like we just fucking love the 

557
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:18,300
gamer, right. 
It's just anyway. 

558
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,900
That that's just iOS. 
Like it was disastrous. 

559
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:23,400
They're going to breed bring out
old. 

560
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:29,200
Was it old old world? 
Is that the new one or It's like

561
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,400
there's yeah, Return of the old 
school, the old world. 

562
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,300
And I really like we're heading 
with it because it going, 

563
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:37,400
they're going almost think a 
thousand years back from the end

564
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,900
of times into the, it was the 
Battle of the counts. 

565
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,100
So, when the like Civil War was 
happening within the Empire, 

566
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,700
that's really cool. 
Really cool thing. 

567
00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:57,300
I just I I'm a bit scared. 
I'm a little bit scared. 

568
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:04,000
I just think that they're going 
to try and jam. 40K style rules 

569
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,700
into it. 
And even though it's going to be

570
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:12,000
a square base game, I just don't
think it's going to have what we

571
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:18,000
were after. 
Yeah, I think that's the general

572
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,400
consensus from people on that on
that Facebook group is that from

573
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,400
in from people in on the inside 
is basically not going to be the

574
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,200
same one. 
And what's the point of that? 

575
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,900
Previously? 
What is the point? 

576
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:32,900
What? 
I don't know. 

577
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:40,700
Yeah, I don't know what it's 
going to be and it's not it's 

578
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,200
not. 
It's just a square base, goddamn

579
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,900
game that we can all play. 9th 
Edition, try to tie it all in, 

580
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,100
to me. 
They failed because they are 

581
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:53,800
alienated a null whole. 
Yeah, they just split apart the 

582
00:36:53,808 --> 00:36:56,800
whole thing again, they would've
been better off saying. 

583
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,100
Now, we're just going to keep 
playing at 8:00. 

584
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:01,600
We're going to read, we're going
to bring out Errata, that's 

585
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,100
going to fix a cute few things 
for tournaments, but we're going

586
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:06,400
to keep it at 8:00. 
That's it. 

587
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,100
Go for it. 
Yeah, I mean like that would 

588
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,600
have just kept the scene going 
but instead, they split it 

589
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,400
again. 
And then, once you start 

590
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,000
splitting, an already split 
group, it gets worse and worse 

591
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,900
and worse. 
So I'm all on board for the 

592
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:24,400
wonderful world of Renaissance. 
I think that's awesome. 

593
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,100
I still think we're missing. 
I think it needs to be more 

594
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,200
broader. 
Going up to seventh edition. 

595
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,400
To bring more guys into it 
because you've got a big gap 

596
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,300
between fourth and seventh in 
terms of player pool, because 

597
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,700
it'd be a lot of people that 
would never played forth. 

598
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,900
But then you'll have more 
people. 

599
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,500
You have more people that played
shift to 7th, for example. 

600
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,700
So it's a more of a matte light 
even though the game didn't 

601
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:57,700
change much from 4th to 5th, 
that it changed quite a bit to 

602
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,200
6. 
And then 6 and 7 would pretty 

603
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,100
much the same but then eighth 
was a complete rewrite. 

604
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:12,500
Almost So I think you can still,
I still get rules wrong from 5th

605
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:17,100
edition and 7th edition, for 
example, and then I still bring 

606
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:22,600
in rules from 7th edition 282. 
Dishin But there needs to unite 

607
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,700
the Warhammer Community Games 
Workshop. 

608
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:29,800
If you ever listening, you need 
to let the community own, it 

609
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,700
just give us the freaking rules.
You can make money and just 

610
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:38,100
recreate the entire range in 
Forge World and do it as a 

611
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:41,700
pre-order type scenario and 
people will buy that shit. 

612
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:46,800
God damn it. 
Anyway, I'm all for warmer and a

613
00:38:46,808 --> 00:38:49,500
science. 
I've read it, I'm into it. 

614
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:53,500
I've had some a lot of questions
around the Empire because there 

615
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:57,600
seems to be massive chunks 
missing from the Army and some 

616
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,700
explanations that I need to 
have, but I'm so goddamn excited

617
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:04,400
that I can feel the war wagon 
again. 

618
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:08,800
I am an Aficionado of the Empire
war wagon and the six 

619
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,700
experimental weapons on the back
and having to roll different 

620
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:13,300
dice forever A single one of 
them. 

621
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:16,600
I think that's fantastic and I 
also think it's fantastic that 

622
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,100
you blow up a war wagon. 
I have a unit of six really 

623
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:21,900
weird dudes walking across the 
battlefield shooting things and 

624
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:23,300
catching things with my man 
catcher. 

625
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,200
Which is what everybody should 
have. 

626
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:32,500
It is, is an essential. 
You should have a man, catch up.

627
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,600
What, what, what, what wouldn't 
why wouldn't you have one? 

628
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:46,500
Like I mean honestly, but yeah, 
I think, I think he's, you know,

629
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:50,400
and and going back to the point 
about the fourth edition, the 

630
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,900
main thing that you'll probably 
need and so essential, but it 

631
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:55,400
would be good to have. 
See this way. 

632
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,900
This is where you could have 
done better. 

633
00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:02,700
All right, because magic innate 
was, I think one of the best. 

634
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,300
It wasn't card-based and it was 
quite easy to deal with. 

635
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:11,600
And they ended up. 
I think it's going to 

636
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,200
be and some sleep cards and you 
got your whole Magic set in one 

637
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,500
go. 
The rule books are available as 

638
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:32,900
a PDF but you don't really, 
yeah. 

639
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:44,400
You can't be pulled and, you 
know, so it's yeah. 

640
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,800
So that's, that's my own. 
Yeah, well about that. 

641
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:51,500
And because the, once I get my 
goat once I get my leg working 

642
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:53,100
again, I'm definitely going to 
be. 

643
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:58,600
I've actually got a, I've got a 
hookup with to my mates. 

644
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:01,600
Another Empire and Goblin player
and a Wood Elf player. 

645
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,200
We are going to all have a crack
at this. 

646
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,800
And I will be reporting back to 
you. 

647
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,500
We all very old Warhammer 
players, so we should be able to

648
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:13,300
pick this up very quickly. 
Yeah. 

649
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:14,600
So I'm pretty excited about 
that. 

650
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:24,500
Oh that's good. 
More people are coming and 

651
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:26,700
joining the group more people 
are finding out about it. 

652
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:30,100
And I think it just essentially 
needs more play testing and each

653
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:32,400
pin, he wants more feedback from
the community as well. 

654
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,300
And from what he's going to get 
a three page update for the 

655
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:41,400
Empire Army. 
The manifesto of Fury from the 

656
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:45,400
and how The Empire should be 
rolling. 

657
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:47,900
What is this? 
Like there's, there's For me, as

658
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:50,400
an Empire players in play for 
someone's actually, glaring, 

659
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,200
mistakes in the empire waist. 
So it's and that's no fault of 

660
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,000
his own, because he's got a 
massive time to deal with, and 

661
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,900
you need many at you need many 
editors to make things work. 

662
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:05,200
What is the one advantage you 
have? 

663
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,100
Is that hit the Empire? 
Well then he's got no excuse in.

664
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,800
So what's he doing? 
If you listen to his podcast, 

665
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,500
what are you doing? 
Kitt. 

666
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:16,200
Can you please? 
Can you like it one note in your

667
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,100
Manifesto to add to, please 
include the this is like and 

668
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:22,600
he's stupid will freeze right 
Clyde? 

669
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,900
Right one far out. 
So for the list, good listeners 

670
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:29,100
that are listening. 
He's got something there which 

671
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,000
is actually from the 6th 
edition. 

672
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,100
And I might've been in fifth 
nothing sixth edition which is 

673
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:39,100
which he had fourth edition of 
fifth edition, had ripened foot 

674
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:43,500
nights awesome because I have a 
massive unit on my God like 38 

675
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:47,500
of the so Suckers right? 
All metal, all beautiful, all 

676
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:51,000
ready to rock. 
And I in later editions, I ran 

677
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,300
them as prey swords and I just 
made it cool. 

678
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:55,600
And then if I was playing 
friendlies, I'm that I tell my 

679
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,000
mates, I'm not taking great. 
Sort of take me Shields and 

680
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,100
they're all cool with that but 
he's got the rule in there, that

681
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,500
right? 
Oakland can only have you gone, 

682
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:09,900
only have one unit of Rockland 
footnotes or one unit of right 

683
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:14,300
Clem nights. 
Now, the knights actually cost 

684
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:17,800
three points more than all the 
other Knights Panthers and, and 

685
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,700
blazing Suns. 
Yet, they've got no stat 

686
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,500
difference or special rules so 
they cost three more points for 

687
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:24,300
being Reich. 
Wind, awesome. 

688
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,300
I'll pay that three points 
because it is Reich went. 

689
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,300
No other reason, but I'll pay 
that. 

690
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,400
But then for God's sakes, give 
me back. 

691
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,900
My buddy. 
Yeah, footnotes and my nights, 

692
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:38,500
cause I want to remind me of 
Rockland again, my Army Rockland

693
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:41,700
needs to write out and then the 
Vicodin foot nights aren't State

694
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,600
troops either. 
So there's another big bloody 

695
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:50,200
hole in the bloody thing. 
Well, it might look like I said,

696
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,700
everybody, if you've got 
concerns or questions, get them 

697
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:55,400
on my, bring the group page. 
I never could do some things and

698
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,500
group Pages because it creates 
an absolute shit storm of 

699
00:43:58,900 --> 00:44:01,400
opinion. 
I will put it to the Man himself

700
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:07,000
and then he can deal with it. 
Yeah, that's why I might look at

701
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:17,800
his baby. 
Exactly, exactly. 

702
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,700
He's put and he's done such a 
good job and I'm really, really 

703
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:26,900
happy with what he's got. 
So I'll play it. 

704
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:32,300
As is I promise except for his 
silly thing with the right one. 

705
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:34,800
I'm just going to choose. 
I never read that and I'm just 

706
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,100
going to well, can't look look 
do it this way. 

707
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,600
It's just these rules aren't set
in stone. 

708
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,100
They're just a Homebrew set of 
rules. 

709
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:46,500
You can tweak the number one is,
I couldn't find any rules or 

710
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:50,500
brace of pistols and I'd say 
he's assuming that we all know 

711
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:54,500
it. 
That's nice. 

712
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:57,600
So you wrote, he wrote the rule 
brace of pistols for pistol 

713
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,900
years, but there's actually no 
rule for brace of pistols, which

714
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:05,000
means that theoretically the 
manifesto is better than he's 

715
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,900
building. 
But I'm really the right one, 

716
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:15,200
but I'm going to share this 
about all the legion group and 

717
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,500
we might be able to resurrect 
some of this bad boy. 

718
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,500
I can see is definitely getting 
involved in it and having a bit 

719
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:25,100
of fun with it. 
And next time we speak, I Des I 

720
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:31,900
would had a few games of it. 
Perhaps, I might I saw I saw 

721
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:35,500
candles photos in the one 
renascence group so I'm really 

722
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:38,400
happy to see him actually 
playing like I said, with his 

723
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,900
with his friends and and that's 
all I need is we just need 

724
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:43,600
people to play, test it, you 
know, pick up things. 

725
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,300
You like, you don't like, and 
any concerns you have. 

726
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:48,900
I think God's sakes. 
We needed, buddy data file 

727
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:51,200
rules. 
Or whatever is someone had can 

728
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,100
build as a data file for yeah. 
Battle scribe. 

729
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:58,400
Goes easiest, one I do for is 
someone who was a battle file 

730
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,900
for. 
That would make Life. 

731
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:02,100
I just hate building army with 
some paper and Pen. 

732
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:06,400
Yeah, I hate it. 
Yeah, it's a city. 

733
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,900
I started Laborde. 
It's a laborious task. 

734
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:10,300
I do it. 
When you can do it. 

735
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,000
A busy man and I'm a busy man 
shit. 

736
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:27,800
I gotta do. 
Well, hopefully, someone who's 

737
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,600
They'll be in the pipe Works. 
Maybe he's a well. 

738
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,200
After this conversation, I'll 
spend half an hour and I'll 

739
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,700
write down my Manifesto. 
But I will play tested before I 

740
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:54,100
send him stuff because this is 
rude to send things before you 

741
00:46:54,107 --> 00:46:57,300
actually. 
Maybe I'll play it as is except 

742
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:00,100
for my to tweaks to the rules to
make my right Clan a bit more 

743
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,700
acceptable and palatable for my 
liking it. 

744
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:09,700
Now, this pack was working in 
yesterday's game. 

745
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:13,200
For instance, for as an example,
we had the guy that the dwarf 

746
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,400
car and hot. 
Dogs are a cocktail. 

747
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,300
You want to pronounce it? 
It came up on the flank. 

748
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:24,900
Are you gonna Smash in that 
battle, by the way, you're 

749
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:28,700
playing the scenario, which is 
yeah, yeah, yeah. 

750
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:34,100
The towels in the center of the 
table and basically the both 

751
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:36,500
armies are set up in their 
12-inch deployment Zone. 

752
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,200
Own and they have to race into 
that towel. 

753
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,700
How are you going to hell? 
You going to flush out dwarfs. 

754
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:47,200
You can't, you can't basically 
it was with the scouting rule. 

755
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,800
They just get in there and I 
definitely owe different. 

756
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:58,100
I would definitely say that 
Scouts can't imagine. 

757
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,800
Trying to root out. 
The second one would be 

758
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,400
something like dark elf cross 
famine or something like chaos 

759
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,300
Warriors. 
Oh my God. 

760
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:13,300
Yeah, just trying to get cars 
where he's out of the house. 

761
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:17,500
Yeah. 
Yeah, that's right. 

762
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,800
So but anyhow we have better 
good fun playing the game. 

763
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,900
But in my point is that the 
ghayra, the gyro copter? 

764
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,000
Yeah. 
The steam, Cannon. 

765
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,900
Yeah. 
So in the fourth edition rule 

766
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:31,400
book, it states that you know 
you can move 12 inches and then 

767
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,200
fire the steam Cannon. 
But in this in this Edition you 

768
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,100
can move 10 inches and 5 steam 
Cannon. 

769
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:37,900
Yeah. 
But in the fourth edition one, 

770
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:41,700
you place the template and then 
anything under the template like

771
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:45,300
at least half under the 
template, you roll a diet and on

772
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:49,400
for plastic They hit, but in 
this version anything that's 

773
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,000
half of. 
Yeah. 

774
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,200
That was actually a real device 
part of the rules. 

775
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:55,000
Yeah. 
Yes, yes. 

776
00:48:55,500 --> 00:49:01,900
I was it in later Editions. 
Well man, that is so sensitivity

777
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:04,500
of spells and how overpower they
are man. 

778
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:07,800
You have two of those things on 
your flanks and your armies as 

779
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,400
comfort. 
You couldn't double up on units.

780
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,900
Well looking, if you'd like if 
you have two of those onto to 

781
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:20,300
our year but that's going to be 
the snowman is steam tank 

782
00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:22,000
feature. 
It's gonna be the same way. 

783
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:25,900
Like your goblins are your army 
was so fluffy and delicious. 

784
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:27,800
I took one. 
Look at it and went, you're 

785
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,600
going to get absolutely 
pummeled. 

786
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:41,800
Yo, yo, that's what they brought
in the big Spider-Man. 

787
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,500
Like that's like, I don't know 
whether they, they are awesome. 

788
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,900
They are. 
I was a hater at first until I 

789
00:49:48,908 --> 00:49:52,900
started playing against him and 
they give the aux so much flavor

790
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:57,800
so much flavor and they're 
actually fantastic models. 

791
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,300
And they're so found fun to play
against because you get this 

792
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,200
idea even though Those photos, I
sent you. 

793
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,300
You can post one up. 
Is my Empire guys. 

794
00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:09,400
Like from eye level looking up 
at this spider and it is epic. 

795
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,800
It is totally Epic Man. 
The only only way I'm ever going

796
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,800
to play one of those things is I
can I just get those ones you 

797
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:24,800
Beast? 
Well, if you like Kevin has 

798
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,100
been, you need have spotted 
spider calves. 

799
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,900
Because yesterday they got 
poison, you need to have your 

800
00:50:30,908 --> 00:50:37,000
doom divers because they are 
just yeah, you can you do but 

801
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:45,900
your arms but it was basically 
To play Bank back and 5th 

802
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:48,100
edition. 
I display, you can do that, what

803
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:51,300
you did was fine but you need to
add more toys. 

804
00:50:52,600 --> 00:51:01,100
Yeah. yeah, I know, I'm pumped 
wagons 40.5 maggots and Yeah, 

805
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:03,200
there's something I've done 
that's going to cost you $80. 

806
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,500
Yeah, we'll see how we go. 
You know, I'm not a not in the 

807
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:21,300
massive rushes to get lots of 
stuff to paint up for us anyway.

808
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:25,200
So I've got a bolt thrower and 
some walk arches and what kind 

809
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,500
of stuff yet. 
So, and I think some make my yep

810
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:30,700
from the old world leaves 
podcast and Jimmy. 

811
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Yeah, he's got some nice gesture
in the screen for you. 

812
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,100
You can use it for Champion. 
Yeah. 

813
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:44,300
Thanks man. 
Yeah. 

814
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:46,500
I don't know. 
I might Yeah. 

815
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:49,200
My diffuser was just like little
side character, put on the side 

816
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,300
of the board's like to cheer 
people on or use. 

817
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:53,900
The squeeze is like one of the 
caves wigs and use the gesture 

818
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:58,600
as like a pretty cool. 
Like a familiar familiar to an 

819
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,600
orc orc Wizard or something like
that, something like that. 

820
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Yeah. 
Oh another thing to maybe, you 

821
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,100
know about this but in the in 
this Renaissance rules for the 

822
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:13,100
one magic is handed a little bit
differently for my fourth 

823
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:16,500
edition. 
You know your Caster would have 

824
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,000
to make that wire test in both 
phases. 

825
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,300
Okay, well it's the same in this
Edition as well but you know, 

826
00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:29,400
you would have to make a dice 
roll and your level to it. 

827
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:32,900
Yeah. 
And if that number was more than

828
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:37,200
that, Than the, the amount of 
Auburn units around you, at 

829
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,000
least 10 strong from aux, and, 
20-strong. 

830
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,100
From the Goblins, you would pass
the test and everything be okay.

831
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,700
But in this Edition, you roll 
the dice for all you shamans. 

832
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:49,800
If you roll a one, they can't 
cast magic. 

833
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,100
They can't use, dispel scroll. 
They can't use any magic items 

834
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,300
that basically screwed. 
Then you've got to roll it, a 

835
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:57,700
toughness test. 
And if you roll over your 

836
00:52:57,700 --> 00:53:02,200
toughness, you suffer a wound. 
And in addition to that, if 

837
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,900
there are units of 12 or more 
strong log mobile units within 

838
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:11,700
12, I don't know about that. 
I think all the armies of all 

839
00:53:11,700 --> 00:53:21,400
the armies were hindered by 
silliness its York's Yeah, and 

840
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,200
that this got he said Give an 
example like drinking all the 

841
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,400
additions. 
Old always have these built-in 

842
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,600
floors, all the way through, all
right. 

843
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,500
And then finally by a tradition,
they managed to get it to a 

844
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,800
fairly reasonable point. 
Where also could be more 

845
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,400
manageable and they became 
Fierce. 

846
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,300
Like they literally became the 
feared Army that they should be 

847
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,700
by Big Blocks of oxwas. 
God damn scary. 

848
00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:48,200
Like you would literally shit 
yourself seeing a Huge in a 

849
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,000
Savage York's coming at you 
because there's nothing really 

850
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,500
was going to stop them. 
And I think I think the the 

851
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:58,500
terror walks needs to be, I 
don't know. 

852
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:03,700
They, they overcomplicated the 
silliness mechanic of them, and 

853
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:07,000
I think the animosity should be 
dealt better. 

854
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:11,500
Yeah. 
Because you think about it. 

855
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:15,000
Yeah. 
Chaos has no MM built problems. 

856
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:22,400
Right, chaos, Warriors, chaos, 
War, rodders, chaos, all across 

857
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,400
the board, really don't have 
anything in build bad about him.

858
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,700
Same with High Elves. 
Same with even Empire, they 

859
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:32,500
don't have anything that 
actually will jolt their army 

860
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:35,100
and actually staggered the way. 
They actually come at you. 

861
00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:39,600
All right. 
Now aux do yet. 

862
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,200
They're not as powerful as say 
an elf and a chaos Warrior. 

863
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:51,100
So what an AUX get penalized for
being an awk and if they do get 

864
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:55,000
penalized, they should be 
appropriately costed for being 

865
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,700
penalized. 
So there should be slightly 

866
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:58,000
cheaper. 
Therefore, there's going to be 

867
00:54:58,008 --> 00:55:00,700
more of them but that never 
quite happened because they're 

868
00:55:00,700 --> 00:55:03,700
be costing mechanic stay the 
same across their entire 

869
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:06,800
Miniatures and care across the 
entire armies. 

870
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:10,100
So the point costing of an org 
is actually slightly more than a

871
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:11,900
human because of their High 
toughness. 

872
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:16,000
But theoretically the cost even 
talk should actually be on par 

873
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,300
with a human, which is that 75 
points for human, should 

874
00:55:19,300 --> 00:55:22,000
actually be on par with a human,
if not a little bit less because

875
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,900
you have built-in deficiencies. 
I don't know, maybe I'm thinking

876
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:30,600
too deep. 
Well. 

877
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:53,300
Now, do you can't what? 
Yeah, yep. 

878
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:56,500
And then, you know, if you take 
as able slaughterer, you know, 

879
00:55:56,500 --> 00:56:00,300
nothing suffers animosity within
18 inches of him and you've got 

880
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:03,600
Banners, To clil animosity. 
You've got obviously the 

881
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,000
Blackhawks as well. 
So it's running all OG list, you

882
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,700
just add a walk Blackhawk boss 
in it and then you've just 

883
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:13,500
mitigated all the animosity 
checks and that kind of thing. 

884
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,400
But yeah, no, I take your point.
You know, it's just one of those

885
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:17,800
things. 
Yeah. 

886
00:56:17,900 --> 00:56:20,200
And having said that, like, we 
Fair Is able to take an all, 

887
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,800
come your way through to the 
Masters. 

888
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:27,000
So it very much comes in and 
then he ran what we used to call

889
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:33,000
the orc gun line. 
So there was basically I think 

890
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,900
for crossbow, like heavy heavy 
bolt throwers in his army, you 

891
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:40,600
know, you got Doom divers in his
army, you've got catapults in 

892
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,400
his army and basically even 
though the completely random and

893
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,400
very hard to hit, when they 
start hitting things and picking

894
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,000
things off, that makes a big 
difference. 

895
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,600
When the, when the big bad, Boys
suck come into play. 

896
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,200
There's nothing scarier than 
nothing scarier than a 

897
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,500
Blackhawk, you no charge. 
Yeah. 

898
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,300
If every time I plan a bloody 
black or and run away, they 

899
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:06,900
always run away. 
The horse fell there, the 

900
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:17,600
creative Community, it'd be fun.
It's always the answer and this 

901
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,500
in this Edition. 
It's not, that's good. 

902
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:24,400
Fun. 
And I like some of the, I like a

903
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,500
really do likes. 
What? 

904
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:27,700
He's done with some of the magic
items like the Rune Fang is 

905
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:30,700
nowhere near as bad as it used 
to be and it doesn't cost as 

906
00:57:30,700 --> 00:57:32,200
much. 
And it's, you know, for me, 

907
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,000
that's, it's, as it should be, 
you know, sort of hundred-point 

908
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,600
item. 
Where's, it's now, one thing is 

909
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,500
70 point item. 
Future Point item. 

910
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:43,300
Remember anyway, I can't wait 
down a couple of games, and 

911
00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:44,700
we'll have another conversation 
about it. 

912
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,700
Yeah, definitely can't tonight 
and mate on that note, I think 

913
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:54,300
we'll end our wonderful 
interview today, has been 

914
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:57,000
wonderful to talk to you and I 
hope you guys can get in it. 

915
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,800
Obviously, you get back on your 
feet and get healthy again and 

916
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:00,400
stuff. 
Yeah. 

917
00:58:00,500 --> 00:58:05,000
Some games and get some feed by 
Willa and back to Boulder over 

918
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,500
in Denmark and hopefully get 
your crew down. 

919
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,300
Yeah, the nice. 
And that's the football team 

920
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:14,900
when Legion the might think 
themselves. 

921
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:29,000
Okay, put it in the manifesto in
a minute. 

922
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:45,100
No, no, I created 
Wet suits and stuff. 

923
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:03,700
And it's been really interesting
to hear about about your 

924
00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:07,200
history. 
And yes, your feelings. 

925
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:15,200
That's it. 
That's the way. 

926
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,900
Thank you, once again for 
listening and downloading 

927
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:35,400
another episode of the crown of 
command podcast. 

928
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:38,400
If you enjoyed enjoyed this 
episode and you would like to 

929
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,000
contact us with some questions 
or feedback, please get in 

930
00:59:42,008 --> 00:59:45,300
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931
00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:51,000
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email address or on my YouTube 

932
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,300
channel under the same name and 
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933
00:59:55,300 --> 01:00:00,200
Twitter, Instagram on Facebook. 
So until next time guys, take 

934
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:00,700
care. 
Care. 

935
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:01,900
And I'll see you in the next 
one. 

936
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:00,700
Okay, bye. 
Care. 

937
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:01,900
And I'll see you in the next 
one. 

938
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:02,600
Okay, bye.