1 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Thank you again for downloading the Chronic Command podcast. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,080 This is Josh, your host today in this interview as I have a 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:18,280 really entertaining conversation with Bart over in Wales and he 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,400 has his own YouTube channel and that's how I sort of discovered 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,000 him. The YouTube channel is called 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,480 Ryan Mouth Studios and I'll leave a link of course to 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,480 everything that we talk and discuss about in this interview 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,360 in the show notes of this podcast. 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,760 So you can go and check it out yourself. 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,640 And we talk about, you know, Bart's early, early footsteps 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,080 into tabletop wargaming. Like how he discovered 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,240 miniatures and this thing called Wargaming, and how that led him 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,680 to discover Futsal miniatures and the Barons War and his 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,320 passions behind that and why he decided to make this YouTube 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,640 channel. So I hope you find this 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,120 conversation entertaining as you do your painting and hobbying 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,600 this week, whatever it might be. Your old hammer, new hammer 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,120 miniatures, it doesn't really matter. 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,480 We're all-encompassing a great hobby that we have here that we 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,360 can share with others. So guys, look, take care this 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,800 week, enjoy your hobby, hope you get some games in. 22 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:15,880 Roll those sixes and we'll see you again next time. 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,920 OK. Enjoy the interview. 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,760 Yeah. So, but thanks very much for 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,680 joining the Credit Command podcast today. 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,560 I really appreciate you staying up a little bit later than 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,920 normal in the UK. There now are you in Wales, is 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,000 that right? I'm in Wales, yes, right. 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,840 I live in carefully, which is very close to Cardiff. 30 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:45,720 We have a beautiful castle, I think the second biggest in 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:51,000 Britain, just, I don't know, few meters away, 100 meters away or 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,640 so. So it's brilliant. 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Oh wow, OK, that's awesome because I've. 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,400 I see a lot of photographs on. Well, I don't really visit it 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,240 very much. The Twitter or X what it's 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,240 called down from my good friend Owen State and he lives, he's 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,480 obviously Welsh and lives in Wales and he's always, you know 38 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,880 entertaining us with lots of beautiful photographs of scenery 39 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,720 there in Wales. Looks like a beautiful place. 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,440 It is a beautiful place. I'm in love with it, for sure. 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,000 How did you actually make your way to Wales? 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,360 What? What was, what was the journey 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,600 like? How did you get connected there? 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,880 Because obviously you're not from Wales originally. 45 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:32,960 No, no, I I was born in Poland and I left Poland in 2005 for 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,240 adventure. I wanted to travel, travel the 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,320 world and photograph the world. That's that. 48 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:45,560 That was my aim and I did that for the first two years I I 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,960 worked in Wales, then just travelled a little and then I 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,520 found my now wife before. Before. 51 00:02:53,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Before that I I started to photo to study photography at 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:07,680 University of Wales Newport Documentary Photography and on 53 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,680 2nd year I met my wife. Well now wife. 54 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:17,120 And yeah, I just stayed family, children, everything. 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,880 You know what I mean? It's it started as an adventure 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,280 and became very kind of family orientated. 57 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,640 Stay all. Right, OK. 58 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,320 That's. Interesting like home in here. 59 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,440 Yeah, it's a bit like my journey to Japan, kind of the same 60 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,400 thing, you know, Got here. It's an adventure, yeah. 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Got married and had children and, you know, settled down and 62 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,440 never went back to Australia, basically. 63 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,720 So that's great, mate. Excellent. 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,120 Yeah. So yeah. 65 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Oh, I thought, I thought, I thought you you was originally 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,640 from the UK. No, no, I've got a very Aussie 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,400 accent, so. Yeah, well, you know, I I don't 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,440 recognize that. Well, I can tell you a Scottish, 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,120 I can tell you that this this person is Scottish and this 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,120 person is Welsh. But you know the rest. 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,120 You know it's still beyond me. Yeah, I know, mate. 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,640 I know. Yeah, I've got a very, very. 73 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Even though I don't consider myself to have an Aussie accent, 74 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,560 but when I listen back to myself on on podcasts or whatever, I 75 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,960 can certainly hear it in my voice. 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,399 It's just one of those I. Understand that for a long time 77 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:22,760 I didn't hear Polishness in my accent at all, and now when I 78 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 hear it, I'm just saying that that thing will never go away. 79 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,080 Exactly. That's good, mate. 80 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:35,240 OK, so now I discovered you through your YouTube channel and 81 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,800 I think by chance the algorithm gods popped them up on my my 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,920 feed and what was through Facebook group or whatever, 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:51,240 because you guys interviewed Andy Hobday and Paul Hicks, So 84 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,760 from football miniatures, yeah. Yes, yes. 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:01,240 I actually interviewed Paul Hicks in March last year and 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,480 that was initially on my other kind of more photography related 87 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,640 channel where I speak, when I speak, where I speak with people 88 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:18,600 whose stuff I enjoy and the 1st 2 speakers were photographers 89 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,120 like my childhood, childhood. Well, my first photographic 90 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,880 hero, Joseph Rodriguez, the guy who actually helped me to 91 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,800 understand how I want to photograph was there. 92 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,560 So that was I, I, I asked Paul to take part in that. 93 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,160 And recently when we started to do stuff with Mark Vance, you 94 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,960 know the rules with Mark for Barron's War, I was like, OK, 95 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,840 let's let's post it here for the new audience, the audience that 96 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:56,080 actually going to, you know, comes to the channel for stuff 97 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,000 like this. So I was like, OK, so let's put 98 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,360 that archival, let's let's, let's breathe new life in that 99 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,640 archival material, basically. Right. 100 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,800 Excellent. And and with Andy, we tried to 101 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,400 talk for a good year because I spoke with Paul in March and I'm 102 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,040 pretty sure that I asked Andy back then to talk to talk about 103 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,600 it. So I was very happy that we 104 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,640 finally managed during the Christmas break. 105 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Yeah, I really enjoyed both of those interviews. 106 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,440 And then I quickly stole Paul to get an under interview out of 107 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,240 him for the Crown of Command recently. 108 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,640 Yeah, he's really, really nice guy. 109 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,800 And not only is he this nice, nice guy to talk to, but we sort 110 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,360 of reconnected afterwards. And I said, hey, you know, I'm 111 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,360 sitting here working, you're sitting here there working and 112 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,640 if you want to talk, just give me a call, you know, and we'll 113 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,960 have a chat kind of thing, you know, talk about old Games 114 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Workshop days or whatever. And it's been really nice, so. 115 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,880 And he said, hey, you know, can you get me some nice candy or 116 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,760 sweets or chocolate for my daughter in Japan? 117 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,120 She was fascinated with Kit Kats and all the different flavors. 118 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,040 And I said, yeah, yeah, no problem, I'll, I'll have a look 119 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,920 for you. That, that that sounds great. 120 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,480 It's when I listen to you, you had loads of in common. 121 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:12,000 You knew all those places and you know your old old guard of 122 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Game Workshop guys, isn't it? Yeah, because he knows Marcus 123 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,000 Blackman. Marcus Blackman is my oldest, 124 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,760 best friends from Australia. We went to the UK together back 125 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,560 in 94 and Mark has already worked at Game Special previous 126 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,200 to that. And yeah, he worked with Paul 127 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,240 there at the Oxford Street store. 128 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,400 So yeah, so he's a lot of connections there. 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,200 That and people I know like Greg as well. 130 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,280 So it was really nice because I didn't really know that until I 131 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,400 started talking to him and he started talking about those kind 132 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,400 of things. So it was lovely. 133 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Boy, that's a long time ago now. But yeah mate, yeah, it's been 134 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,280 really good. So we're all sort of connected 135 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,440 to, in some, some respects, all us in our age group or whatever 136 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,080 are all connected to Games Workshop through the 90s. 137 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,240 Was that the same for you as well? 138 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,120 But like, were you also a gamer through the game Switcher hobby, 139 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,560 or how did you find? Well, yes, you have to say that, 140 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,240 I think, but it came very late in my life actually. 141 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,920 I wasn't doing it like in 20s like most of you guys. 142 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,280 I mean, you know, when the game Games Workshop had that Lord of 143 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,720 the Rings magazine, you know, the the, the, the gaming 144 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,520 magazine that was actually translated to Polish and that's 145 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,200 this. I remember buying a lot of that 146 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,520 stuff and I still have like some of the metal miniatures from it, 147 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,159 but I never can. I was always fascinated by it, 148 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,520 but I didn't understand it and I didn't know how to do it. 149 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,360 So I remember once we tried to play a game with my brother and 150 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,000 it was just like, you know, role-playing, I would say like 151 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,520 no structure in there or anything like that. 152 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,400 Painting seemed very difficult to me. 153 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,000 I just couldn't focus on on on doing that. 154 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,880 So that was the first kind of thing. 155 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:09,200 And then I am asking you to the world of War gaming as the 8th 156 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,240 edition, because this is when I was like, OK, let me do it. 157 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,920 Let let me try, you know, let let let me see what it's all 158 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,600 about. Maybe maybe it's gonna be 159 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,520 something that I'll enjoy. And I I did, but at the same 160 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,920 time I was like, you know I get that a buyer frenzy I wanted 161 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,880 spaceful. So I bought the whole army and 162 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,840 then I had like army of grey and that's actually frightened me 163 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,360 like you know, in terms of I have to paint all this and I 164 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:46,680 never could really, you know and then Kill team came out and that 165 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:49,760 was very that that was gaming for me. 166 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,200 I was like, OK, I can do that, paint 5 to 10 miniatures, you 167 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,880 know, because I'm a very slow painter do that. 168 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,280 And then Necromanda came, the new Necromanda, I discovered new 169 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,000 Necromanda. I think that was the other way 170 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,760 around. But I was like, OK, that works. 171 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,080 What about this game? And I just fell in love with 172 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,360 that. And that was, that was it. 173 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,000 I painted my first gang and then slowly. 174 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Then I painted a Bolt Action Army and I only played two games 175 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,440 for it. And when I painted Bolt Action 176 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,120 Army because my group was playing actually, I was like OK, 177 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,480 I can paint armies now. So you know I'm I'm slowly I'm, 178 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:32,680 I'm I'm a I'm a baby when it comes to hobby. 179 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:35,080 If you think about it it's only it's only a few years. 180 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Really. Yeah. 181 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,240 One more Yeah. When was the 8th edition? 182 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,080 Well, what? What's that was in? 183 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,400 2010 or 2000, I don't really know. 184 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,320 It was a. Rap I'm a teenager. 185 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,800 I'm a working teenager now. Yeah, mate, you are. 186 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,960 Well, you're a very young man, a lot of gaming years ahead of 187 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:54,960 you. That's excellent to hear. 188 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,040 Yes, yes. OK. 189 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,120 So that's, so that's interesting. 190 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,160 So you did have your leading to like obviously Games Workshop 191 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,960 was a big influencer on you because you saw Lord of the 192 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,440 Rings and obviously that's their biggest intellectual property 193 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:11,200 they have and they'll probably have it forever. 194 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Why not? Because it's going to get a lot 195 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,160 of people in through their doors and you know, buying their 196 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,120 miniatures and playing their games because of the Lord of the 197 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Rings license they have, which is great. 198 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,720 I always look at, you know, people who come through games, 199 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,440 worship in two eras. It's either the the 90s era when 200 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,960 they came through the doors from Warhammer Fantasy Battle or Hero 201 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,680 Quest and then you had the Lord of the Rings era where they 202 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:39,400 captured a lot of the other young people coming through 203 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,560 through the through the films and then through the miniatures 204 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:45,240 and stuff like that. So you're in the later part. 205 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:52,840 Yeah you're the same I I think, I think that 8th edition as well 206 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,640 brought a lot of people to it. We you know I would certainly 207 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,200 few people that I know also like kind of started my brother as 208 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,120 well you know kind of joined at the same time. 209 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,440 So I think if Games Workshop is still obviously they are, they 210 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:18,240 are massive, they they will be bringing new crowd and then you 211 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,480 know everybody will find a niche for themselves. 212 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,440 For me it's it's smaller games and it's historical games more 213 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,240 than anything. Like, you know, I don't play any 214 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,320 any Games Workshop games at the moment. 215 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:39,040 The only one that I'm kind of constantly romancing with is 216 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:45,280 More Time and I do have band painted for it, but I still 217 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,680 didn't have a except I think I played it once or twice. 218 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:51,680 That's it. So I do have that in my in my 219 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:56,640 collection and that way it's to be, you know, rediscovered 220 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,120 again. But other than that I just moved 221 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,920 to like more historical gaming. I'm sorry, I'm playing Star Wars 222 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,760 Legion as well. I do that game too. 223 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,440 OK. I've heard. 224 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,320 I've seen it obviously it's it's again it's another massive 225 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,720 intellectual property will get people in and I think that's I 226 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,480 don't know maybe that's just my opinion. 227 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,520 But I think now current trends within gaming is that they try 228 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,280 to pick up a license from somewhere like either DC Comics, 229 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:32,200 Marvel, you know, Star Wars, and then they, you know, obviously 230 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:35,800 the price is pretty high, but they get the people in, they get 231 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,880 the young guys, people who play card games or they play 232 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,280 role-playing games. Look, there's a miniature game 233 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,520 based on the my favorite TV show or whatever characters or 234 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,000 whatever, and they get him in that way, which is a really good 235 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,960 tactic. Let let me tell you the amount 236 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,080 of times I was looking at Batman's miniature game. 237 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,840 But I I was like, you know what, No, let's just let's just stay 238 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:05,040 away because there's a lot of great stuff out there right now. 239 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,080 You can't have everything and you especially time wise, like 240 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,360 I'm struggling to you know to paint miniatures for for for 241 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,480 competitions, for tournaments and stuff. 242 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,840 So adding something on top of that is not the greatest idea 243 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,840 for me personally, especially that I'm still struggling with 244 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,480 like speed. I'm a very slow painter. 245 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,000 I'm trying my best with every miniature instead of, you know, 246 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:36,360 trying shortcuts, you know, I'm but I wouldn't call it New 247 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,880 Year's resolution. But I do want to paint retinue, 248 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:47,400 Viking retinue for Conquest. And I said that there's no way I 249 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,160 will be able to paint it traditionally. 250 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,280 So I'm just going to test the army painters. 251 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,680 Fast, fast paints. Sure. 252 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,760 Speed paint, Yeah, and and and paint them that way. 253 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:07,080 Probably you know some details. I'm going to touch it, you know, 254 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,200 But I I think the most of the work will be done with the speed 255 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,320 paints. I've got, I've got to admit, 256 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,320 like the other day I went to my local art store and I actually 257 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,640 went on behalf of Paul Hicks actually, because he was, he was 258 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,640 looking that procreate that material the the party uses to 259 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,640 create miniatures. And I said I'm sure they have it 260 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,640 at this massive art store. They've got everything there. 261 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,000 So I said, look, you know, I'm going to go there today. 262 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,080 I'm going to have a look for you mate. 263 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,400 So he said OK, so I walked in there and lo and behold, they 264 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,200 put a Citadel color stand in there. 265 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,880 So they put some so games workshops, actually got in 266 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,040 there, got their foot in there and they put a nice Citadel 267 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 color stand and some they put some box sets and miniatures and 268 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,040 stuff like that. Not interested in miniatures. 269 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,680 I just want to look at the paints and stuff like that. 270 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,640 They got there and I picked up the contrast medium. 271 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,360 It's it's a 24 mil pot which is just like a a whitish liquid 272 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,440 that if you add it to your paint or ink it turns it into a 273 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,880 contrast medium. Like it turns into a contrast 274 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,680 paint, which I thought was right, quite fascinating and I 275 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,640 thought I wanted to give it a go and I'm, I'm just like thinking 276 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,960 this is the best stuff ever. This is like liquid gold, this 277 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,560 stuff. I'm really, I'm really surprised 278 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,600 they actually released it because if you think about it, 279 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,680 the contrast paints cost like something like $10 here, a pot. 280 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,520 But you can buy for $10 a big part of that contrast medium. 281 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,480 You can add it to anything and it becomes a contrast paint. 282 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,280 It's it's absolutely beautiful. So I was always trying to say 283 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,760 no, no, no, it's just a fad. I I I want, I don't want to get 284 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,040 into this whole contrast speed paints thing. 285 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,960 But now that I've tried it, I can see the the real potential 286 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,600 behind that. Yeah, yeah, 100%. 287 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,040 I I like the the way I think about it right now and I'm by 288 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,160 far you know you you are such an amazing painter but you know I'm 289 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,360 I'm I am trying my best with with painting too and I just see 290 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,320 it as it's just another tool isn't it. 291 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,320 It's another tool. Yeah, it's another tool. 292 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,040 And now I'm really interested in their other technical things 293 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,520 that they have there because they've got a name on it, but it 294 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,240 doesn't tell you what it does. Like this Lemian Lemian, Lemian, 295 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,440 whatever it's called, but it doesn't say what it does. 296 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,800 So I need to check what it does. So it's good because I'm now I'm 297 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,599 more interested in you know, looking at different kinds of 298 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,960 ways or or not not sort of ways, but basically just adding things 299 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:32,400 in that these more modernized formulas, additives if you like 300 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,920 to your paints. I think that's a really nice 301 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,680 idea. I've heard of like you know 302 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,880 things that increase your flow and you know thinning out your 303 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,360 paint, that kind of stuff. But I think this contrast medium 304 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,040 just so for me as a as a full time miniature painter, you 305 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,680 know, I've got to work quite quickly. 306 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,400 So to get things done each day I've got to, you know, I work on 307 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,400 a pretty tight schedule. So painting up some Jean 308 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,040 stealers the other day and some Jean stealer hybrids, yeah, for 309 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,200 those flesh tones, for their armor and that kind of thing. 310 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,440 That really helped me a lot in getting a lot of base coverage 311 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,480 done really quickly. And so, yeah, there is a lot 312 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,640 behind a lot of these, you know, obviously these paint companies 313 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,560 are making beautiful, you know, paints. 314 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:20,440 And how should I say it sort of extensions to your paint that, 315 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,600 you know, can help you get the results quickly. 316 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,400 And if my son was going to start miniature paintings, if he's 317 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,160 going to get interested later on, I'm definitely going to get 318 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,640 him into the speed paints or the contrast paints because it's 319 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,680 just a instant gratification, You know, you just put the paint 320 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,040 on. Wow, it looks amazing, That 321 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,600 effect, you know? So that's what it is. 322 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,720 It's really these paint effects they're adding now, which are 323 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,840 really interesting. Yeah. 324 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,320 Yeah. Yeah, I do like using some 325 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:58,320 animal washes and then I use a lot of grime from AKA 326 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,480 interactive. I paint base and then just slap 327 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,160 that on and then remove it and then pick it up a little bit. 328 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,040 I really like the feel of it. But that's again another tool in 329 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,480 the in the arsenal, isn't it? You know, it depends what you 330 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,200 want to do with it, of course. It's incredible how many paint 331 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,560 companies are out there at the moment, because when I started 332 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,560 in the hobby there was Humble Tamiya, which are terrible 333 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,440 paints. I mean, they're still selling 334 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,840 those things, but as a person who's just starting out and 335 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,160 painting, they're just horrible things to use because they're 336 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,360 all, you know, either well, the the Tamia ones were water based, 337 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,080 but they were never really, you know, beautiful things to work 338 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,120 with. And the hum rolls you needed 339 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:49,000 like thinners and stuff like that, they're really smelly and 340 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,960 just, you know, But nowadays you've got maybe 10 different 341 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,080 companies you can go do to buy paints from, which I think is 342 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,160 just incredible now. Yeah, I think it's a great time 343 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,760 to be a teenager. Yeah, exactly. 344 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,520 Yeah. Gaming teenager. 345 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,640 That's wonderful. So that's good. 346 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,360 Yeah. So yeah, painting is real. 347 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:11,160 Yeah. Pleasure of mine. 348 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,240 And I hope other people can enjoy painting. 349 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,040 So if contrast paints or speed paints or whatever they're 350 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,280 called gets you there, then that's great. 351 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,280 That's that's one one really good advantage I think people 352 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,000 have now. OK, So moving along. 353 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,280 So you discovered gaming or Games Workshop through Lord of 354 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,000 the Rings, and then you started playing 8th edition fantasy and 355 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,960 necromander, and you're sort of looking at wartime, but then 356 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,360 Baron's War came on your radar. How did that happen? 357 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:48,240 Well, quite accidentally I I guess, but it was a good 358 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,520 coincidence. I saw the new release of Welsh 359 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,840 miniatures, New Welsh miniatures from Futsore and I was like, oh 360 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,320 wow, this looks great and they send it to my gaming group who 361 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:08,680 back then was called Bolt Action Still because, you know, we kind 362 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,640 of created the group for like a Christmas game and I painted an 363 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:19,280 army for for that game specifically and never played it 364 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,880 until last Christmas. So I played it twice, but 365 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:30,120 anyway, I've sent it over there and Ian, who is actually the 366 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,560 marks opponent on the battle report that we did, Ian said. 367 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,160 You know what? I know a guy who knows, who 368 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,200 speaks of this game, who knows this game and I was chatting 369 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,320 about it. So you know, and should I invite 370 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,840 him to the group and stuff. So we invited him to the group. 371 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,240 We started to discuss before, before I knew everybody was like 372 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,920 saying oh what about this revenue? 373 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,320 They started to build a list. I said oh I'm not getting 374 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,960 involved in another game so and then like 2 days later everybody 375 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:03,600 was already buying stuff so so that was it. 376 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:12,560 And I had a game demo in in Cardiff when Mark was here and I 377 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,680 played Templar Retinue. He's Templar Retinue and I was 378 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:22,560 just hooked from the first moment the game felt very flow, 379 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,600 the flu, it flew very well. I mean you know there was, it 380 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,800 just felt natural, if that makes sense. 381 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,760 It was clever and it was, it was clever and easy at the same 382 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,600 time, if you know what I mean, The rule set, easy to pick up, 383 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:45,240 but you could do a lot, a lot strategically and obviously I 384 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,680 didn't know all that. I kind. 385 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,200 I think I felt it after that first game because I became a 386 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,720 much better player with time, obviously. 387 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,400 So I'm speaking from perspective of time, so kind of, you know, 388 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,480 but yeah, that was it. And I was hooked. 389 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,080 I was hooked and didn't look back. 390 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,400 I've been playing ever since, right? 391 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,640 I I think after that first demo, Mark organized the first ever 392 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:18,640 Baron Tour tournament somewhere. It was Revolt Sheffield, I 393 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,960 think. And I I bought the ticket 394 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,400 without even having my retinue like, you know what I mean? 395 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,320 I'm playing for it. So. 396 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,280 So I was like, you know, just dropped in the ocean and learn 397 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,560 how to swim, You know what I mean? 398 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Nice, mate. That's wonderful. 399 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,960 So yeah, you you have now if people don't know you and I 400 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,360 discover you through the a YouTube channel that you have 401 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,680 that's pretty much dedicated to Barrens War, would that be right 402 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,240 to say? I think you can say that. 403 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,240 You can say that definitely the most, the most stuff that is on 404 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,240 the channel is related to it. But I also love Blood and 405 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:05,400 Plunder game, and there will be stuff coming out for this as 406 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,240 well, up to my two favorite games, Barons War and Blood and 407 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,040 Plunder, and without a shadow of a doubt. 408 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:20,520 So definitely most of the stuff will be related to these two 409 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,000 games for sure. Nice now. 410 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,160 So for people who people are wondering what Baron's War is, 411 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,960 we're talking about Baron's War. What is Baron's War? 412 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,920 But what is Baron's? War, First of all, Baron's War 413 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:43,200 is great fun. It's a great, great game, you 414 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,120 know, focusing on the first Baron's War conflict, which is 415 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:53,680 2000, not 2012. Fifteen 1216 if I remember 416 00:24:53,680 --> 00:25:00,320 correctly, 13th century. Anyway, You know, to be honest 417 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:08,080 with you, like Barons war is great in learning about history 418 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,240 as well. You know, Barons War is just a 419 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:18,960 very good rule set and time well spent with your friends and a 420 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:25,120 lot of enjoyment of your approach of purchasing toys. 421 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,480 Violence War is just like really fun game, really fun thing to 422 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,720 do. And I would, you know, I would 423 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,800 say that whoever, whoever gets into it will find something for 424 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,240 themselves. That's what I believe anyway. 425 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,920 That's how I feel. It's it. 426 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,280 It's just a great game. Good. 427 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,520 OK, that's wonderful. That's a good. 428 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,680 That's a good preset to introduce people to the game. 429 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,080 Yeah. So it's a historical game. 430 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,520 It's not a fantasy game. It's based in history, as Bart 431 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,680 was alluding to. And it's set, yeah, during the 432 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,800 first Barrens War. So you'll you, you have, you 433 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,760 build a retinue, which is probably about 15 to 20 guys 434 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,680 maybe. So it's a. 435 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:18,560 Well level game you know I mean if if, if you you can play 436 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,880 bigger bigger battles as well. You know it depends how we how 437 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,320 how you feel it. It's great for people who were 438 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,680 scared by the big battle games. So you have like you said it can 439 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,480 be anything between 2030 miniatures. 440 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:41,240 It's a good number units of eight maybe 10 miniatures. 441 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:52,680 It's a game that have you know you're going to have to cut this 442 00:26:52,680 --> 00:27:00,120 out. I'm trying to find the words but 443 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,720 they they don't come. I basically it's a it's it's a 444 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,120 skirmish, skirmish game and player players alternate 445 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,840 activations. You know each group have one 446 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:18,840 activation per turn. Unless they are command groups 447 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,480 they they can have either three or two. 448 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:30,280 It's a fast-paced game for sure with a lot of detail put in 449 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,320 rules. A game that also requires a lot 450 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:41,800 of terrain because loads of rules, line of sight and so on 451 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,000 are kind of used better if there's lots of terrain on the 452 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:52,440 table you can hide from, from troops, from crossbows and stuff 453 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,440 that are very powerful otherwise. 454 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:00,280 So it's like almost like hide and seek type of game and you 455 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,160 just have to you know better your opponent. 456 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,040 I do. I do enjoy that stuff for sure. 457 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,560 And a maid of mine in America just ordered Baron's War in his 458 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760 first retinue, thanks to the interview with Paul Hicks. 459 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,520 So that's good. Another Baron's War player. 460 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Yes, yes, I'm happy to hear that. 461 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,080 I am actually like in terms of channel, Raymoff Studio had 462 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:42,440 barons, were it just I'm glad we did it when we did it because it 463 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,120 seems like a lot, a lot of people needed that, like the 464 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,120 comments that people actually mention oh you know, I was on 465 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,520 the edge with that game or blah blah blah. 466 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,000 The content is actually like very useful and that's a really 467 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,480 nice, I don't know if it's a surprise, but definitely like, 468 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,920 it's good to see that the game is gaining momentum. 469 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,560 And it seems like ever since, like we did these videos with 470 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,360 Mark, it's like so much content about Baron's War comes out on 471 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,280 YouTube, suddenly it's like I'm. So glad you did those because I 472 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,160 was waiting for someone to make any video based on how to play 473 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640 the game now. Yeah, I've never played Baron's 474 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,040 War. And people are saying, Josh, why 475 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,480 are you talking about Baron's War so much? 476 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,120 Because you've even never actually played it. 477 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,640 And I've just recently got my first miniatures and painted 478 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640 them, and I've loved them because I've been dreaming about 479 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,320 that. Just looking at those images, 480 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,480 you know, the game itself looks interesting to me and I know 481 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,280 it's a good game. The miniatures were just 482 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,520 beautiful and I just had, I just had to have them, you know, I 483 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,080 said to Paul, I just need those miniatures, mate. 484 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,000 I just need to paint those figures just to get out of my 485 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,600 system. And I'm really glad I did 486 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,040 because I'm, you know, I'm really, really happy with the 487 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,720 quality. You know, they're like old 488 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,880 school miniatures that really finely detailed. 489 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,240 Nice scale, Great. You've done such a great work 490 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,000 with it. When you post those pictures, I 491 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080 was like, oh wow, OK, you know what I mean? 492 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,960 You know when we speak about the HMV bench or however it's it's 493 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,400 called, I'm. I'm sorry if I take the the name 494 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,960 wrong but when I saw your stuff I was like wow man, it's like 495 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,600 it's different style but in quality. 496 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,560 There's like it's the same man, like you just need to photograph 497 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,080 them in a specific way. I need your. 498 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,480 Talents, man, I need your talents. 499 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,200 Man, listen, when I looked at them, I was like, this is 500 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,200 exactly what I always tried to do with my Templars. 501 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,480 And I never did. So I I was like, I was like, 502 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,640 wow, this stuff looks good. This stuff looks good. 503 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,920 I think they. Look fantastic. 504 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,280 I said to Paul, you know, you know, you can create these 505 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,560 beautiful models, but unless they're painted in a in a way 506 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,680 that shows people how beautiful these models are, it's really 507 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,920 important. And that person, Daniel Wegman, 508 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,680 I think his name is the person responsible for those really 509 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,320 beautiful images on their websites and in their books and 510 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,560 stuff like that. Yeah, that like I said to you 511 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,880 that that got me into the game and I said the pool the same 512 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,120 that that got me that note maybe noticed the game a lot more 513 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,000 because of the presentation and looking at these beautiful 514 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,320 models, how they painted and in modern sort of styles, you know, 515 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,720 historical gaming for me is always lacked in a lot of ways 516 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,360 because of presentation. The models look pretty, you 517 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,840 know, they weren't painted so well and you know, and you know, 518 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000 maybe the theme was not really my cup of tea. 519 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,080 I'm not a big World War Two guy. It's probably too close in 520 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600 history. My my grandparents were involved 521 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:46,360 in the World War 2IN in Holland so it doesn't really give good a 522 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520 good feeling to me. I I don't think maybe and the 523 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,760 Barons war is and you know anything to do with medieval 524 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,640 combat or medieval history is so far back in the past it's almost 525 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,320 has a mystique about it. Like we only know these because 526 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,360 of these records and it it has this and you know you you think 527 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,200 about a lot of fantasy games where it's all centered around 528 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,400 medieval times. You know I love the look at the 529 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,160 terrain I love look at the the boards because it's reflects 530 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920 warhammer and Warhammer basically is just medieval 531 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,920 combat with magic in a lot of sense. 532 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,800 It's just that that's what fantasy is in generally. 533 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,040 So Pretonians, for example, are basically just Knights of 534 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,560 medieval times, but they have, you know, sorcerers and, you 535 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,560 know, that kind of thing, and Dragons and Pegasus, Pegasi or 536 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,880 whatever. So that instantly brought me 537 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,120 into Baron's War because I just think, OK, well, that's 538 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,800 basically Warhammer, but in a historical sense, it got me into 539 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800 the history too. It got me, it got me interested 540 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,520 in the history. I thought, wow, OK, I really 541 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,440 want to know about this. And then when I looked at all 542 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,600 the heraldry, the color schemes, it, the freedom of all that, it 543 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,880 looks so cool, you know, the the all the different colors of all 544 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,080 the, you know, different. I suppose barons have this, 545 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,360 their own coat of arms and that would carry on through the 546 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,720 troops. But then you don't have to be 547 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,680 restricted by that. You could have 11 retinue 548 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,360 painted in a certain way with various different color schemes 549 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440 and coat of arms and another one in a different one. 550 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,920 So yeah, that gave a lot of interesting painting options, I 551 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,320 think for me as well. But I just looked those military 552 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,640 nights and I was like, OK, that's it, that I'm sold on this 553 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,480 whole Crusader thing, you know, Kingdom of Heaven, the movie 554 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,160 loved it, you know, And these miniatures just just call that 555 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,600 to me saying, yes, we've got to play this. 556 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,520 We've got to get this on the table. 557 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,960 We've got to make a desert table, palm trees, you know the 558 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,120 the Hospital of Fort that they released for Kickstarter is an 559 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,760 amazing piece of kit, you know, So I. 560 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,360 Actually filmed. I filmed building it. 561 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,000 Now it's time to paint it. So when it's all done, I I think 562 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,280 I'm going to do maybe not another tutorial. 563 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,120 I'm I'm not doing stuff like this, but kind of update and how 564 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,840 I felt about it and stuff because the kit is just, I'm 565 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400 telling you it's phenomenal. That thing presents itself so 566 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,080 well and it's wow, wow. When you have a chance you have 567 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,679 to get it. I'm telling you it's it's really 568 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,679 nice. It's really nice and size wise 569 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:22,320 as well, you know it's not too, it's not too big, but it does 570 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,520 have a presence on the table very nicely. 571 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,400 Everything works together beautifully, like you know, just 572 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,000 great stuff, really good stuff. And from what Andy was saying, I 573 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,159 think they will produce more and I really hope that some of it's 574 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:40,840 going to be full drummer as well. 575 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Yes, it sounds like there's a lot more planned. 576 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,040 It's not like just this is it. And because there's a different 577 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,080 theaters as well, you've got like Death and Taxes, which is 578 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,040 basically Robin Hood in Sherwood, that's. 579 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,840 That's where the first Templar retinue, actually first Templars 580 00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:00,360 rules are from. But like when I was getting into 581 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,320 Baron's War, you know, the the Ultramar Kickstarter was very 582 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,160 close to being fulfilled. So I I I I lived with Ultramar. 583 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,240 I I just won't. I I was obsessed with Ultramar. 584 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:16,720 I was looking for everything, but like books about it, read 585 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,120 about it. Like, you know, my he's by no 586 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,880 means an expert in in medieval history, but I know so much more 587 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,120 than I knew last, you know than I knew last year. 588 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,800 It's just incredible how so much you can have so much fun 589 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,560 learning. You know what I mean? 590 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,800 There's there's so many great strategies there for education. 591 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,520 You know, children like to teach children the history, there's so 592 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,680 many options over there and we just like, you know, doing all. 593 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,800 Anyway, let's not get into it. It's fantastic. 594 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,120 But I should fantastic. I should point out that the 595 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,840 author in their book how we're going to pronounce it, you you 596 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,880 said it really nicely. Actually. 597 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520 It actually has a lot of historic historical notes in it. 598 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,320 There's a lot of footnotes about history in it and talks about, I 599 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,320 think, the 2nd Crusade and the Third Crusade, and it talks 600 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,480 about the most, you know, obviously influential 601 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,440 characters, part of those conquests. 602 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,800 And then it goes into the retinues and you can have three 603 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,960 different styles of retinue. And then you can go like 604 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,440 completely Templar military, or you can go with the Frankish 605 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,200 forces, or I think there's another one. 606 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,920 Crusading France. That's right. 607 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,600 And you can talk about the, yeah, there's like several 608 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,720 Franks, all those crusading Franks. 609 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,200 And then you've got the Islamic forces as well that comprise 610 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,800 that entire book. What is beautiful in Ultramar 611 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,400 actually is like you can mix and match you can really do what you 612 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,440 want. But because each of these 613 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:58,440 specific types of revenues allow you to use troops from the other 614 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,480 groups. So you can have like if you if 615 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,120 you use settled francs retinue you can use 40% of you know 616 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,960 military orders in there as well. 617 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:12,240 So it really gives you opportunity to build retinue you 618 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:13,840 really want you passionate about. 619 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:19,200 So what I am very slowly building right now is military 620 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:26,480 order retinue and I aim to have I I aim to have all four 621 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,840 military orders there that are listed with different weapon 622 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,600 choices. So I'm building that slowly, but 623 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,600 I'm also looking at settled France because I was reading a 624 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,000 little bit about Polish presence in crusades. 625 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,800 And, you know, there's very little known, but there's enough 626 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,280 to, like you said before, you know, use your imagination and 627 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,800 create stories based on this, like one sentence written in the 628 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,400 13th century, you know what I mean? 629 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,880 Or that nameless night that's, you know it just opened so much 630 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,320 and then you can, you know, look about coats of arms. 631 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:14,000 Like from the time, OK, this guy's wolves from Silesia. 632 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,040 I can't even say Shlonsky in English. 633 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,840 But you can take stuff from there and use it in your you 634 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,520 know, in your retinue because nothing stops you from it. 635 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,040 And it's as historical as it can be because there's just not much 636 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,720 information about it. And that's what I love about 637 00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,880 this game. It gives you freedom and you 638 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,720 really learn history. And then when you finally get 639 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:45,600 that threat in you and it's time to play, the game is just, Oh my 640 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,840 God, cherry on the cake. You know what I mean? 641 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,000 It is. It is so well written and it's 642 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,880 so much fun. It's it's great. 643 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,000 Seriously. Like. 644 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,800 Yeah, let's talk about the gameplay because you you've got 645 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,240 a you've got a game report there with Mark Vance and another 646 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,960 Welsh gentleman there. Sorry, I forgot his name, but. 647 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:11,760 Ian Ian Jones. Ian playing the Welsh and Mark's 648 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,640 playing the English, I think in that one, yes. 649 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,960 Now, one thing I'll say about it, because I was really 650 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,960 interested in keen to see a battle report of Baron's War. 651 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,320 One thing I'll note about it, and I think you touched on it 652 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,320 before. It's very intuitive. 653 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,120 So you're not flipping through books. 654 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,160 It's just like they just you. You just filmed it and you 655 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,080 didn't stop. Like you just filmed everything 656 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,600 and that you didn't pause or you didn't edit it or anything like 657 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,240 that. Is this like 1 continuous stream 658 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:39,680 from turn to turn. So that was, that was. 659 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,800 The biggest thing This is the biggest compliment to my editing 660 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:50,360 I've ever had in my life. We did a fantastic. 661 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,240 Job No, we we did, we did we did two or three times pose but very 662 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:58,040 shortly. But yes, once you play this game 663 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,120 a few times you don't really you will look into rules obviously 664 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,960 every now and then just to confirm certain things. 665 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,360 But it it's it flows very well. It flows very well. 666 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,760 It is one thing that have to be said. 667 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,160 It might be slightly tricky at the beginning. 668 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,360 The setup of the book at times can be like you know you have to 669 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,160 look for stuff and until you get to know the book. 670 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,240 It may be tricky at the beginning but as soon as you 671 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:37,600 flip that and you just beautiful beautiful experience. 672 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,960 So actually the last game of the tournament that I play against 673 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,720 some bliss, that was just, it was just incredible. 674 00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:49,000 We were just like I I thought it was the shortest game, but also 675 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000 like the fastest game I ever had. 676 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,840 Because if you have players that's kind of played enough, 677 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,720 you just keep going and he'll remind you the rule. 678 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,280 You'll remind him the rule. And together it just like it was 679 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,920 flawless that probably one of the most enjoyable games I had. 680 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,640 Oh, that's wonderful man, That's great. 681 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,920 Now it's AD 10 system too. DD 10 based system Yes these six 682 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,320 is charging and I don't think you want to be charged by war 683 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,760 horses anytime soon because if a War Horse, if your command is 684 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,080 based on a War Horse or you have a War Horse unit in the game, 685 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,440 they look just absolutely devastating which. 686 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,840 Reflects. What they did, you know, it's 687 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,360 not like Warhammer where they just hit a solid brick wall and 688 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,840 then you know that's it. These will just go straight 689 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,480 through, you know? It is wonderful. 690 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,120 So I love seeing. Unless, unless you, unless the 691 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,160 unit is equipped in bills because they can cause 2 wounds 692 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,160 and the strength of war horses is actually that they they need 693 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:51,960 to be wounded twice in order to you know get the casualty. 694 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,520 So that unless the opponent have war horses and that happened at 695 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,920 the tournament as well. I had four war horses and the 696 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,800 guy had five war horses and I was like oh Oh my God, what is 697 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,920 going on here? I see. 698 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,800 Yeah, yeah, he feels fragile and stuff, but. 699 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,480 Then there's certain counters like you got Archers, you got 700 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,720 cross women, which can be really quite potent and deadly against 701 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,080 cavalry as well. So you've got. 702 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,840 Anything in Mail? Anything in in Mail? 703 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:24,080 Yeah. And anything in in in short 704 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,840 range specifically. But Speaking of war horses that 705 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,240 I think that's like my favorite rule of the game is related to 706 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:38,160 them because like you said, you know when war horses charge you, 707 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,000 let's say they win the battle, the the, the, the, the, the, the 708 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:49,840 skirmish, the defending group is being pushed off and then the 709 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,920 horses overcharge and they can while they overcharge, then they 710 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,320 can hit another unit and it it it can be funny. 711 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,800 But when they overcharge they can leave the table as well And 712 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,400 that will cause, you know, losing the units and you know if 713 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,480 that was your commander and you didn't have another one that can 714 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,680 cause you are gay. So it's beautiful. 715 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:19,960 And I think another very, very strong part, very strong thing 716 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,400 in rules is that no matter what you bring to the table, there's 717 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,160 something you can counter it with. 718 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,320 Like. You always can find a way to you 719 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,600 know you can you know you. You always can find a way to 720 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,320 defeat the odds, if you know what I mean. 721 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,040 And that's that's probably what's beautiful. 722 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,000 About it, there's a lot of flexibility too, so you can arm 723 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,520 your troops individually and you can give you can pay for 724 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,920 abilities as well. So you've got that added little 725 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,920 sweetener there. So every single time you play 726 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,280 you could play differently. So you could have one retinue of 727 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,880 of, you know, men at arms which have inherent abilities and then 728 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,560 you could pay for extra abilities for them. 729 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,720 Likewise for your cavalry. Likewise for your levee troops 730 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,080 or your arches, whatever they might be. 731 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,080 So you've got each it's not like a not like a true historical 732 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,760 game where they're just set in stone and you can't change them 733 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,080 at all. This is gives a lot of 734 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,760 flexibility to your units and the way you want to play. 735 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,360 So I find that really, really interesting as well. 736 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,680 Again, I must say I've not played Barron's Wall, but I can. 737 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,560 I can see just going through the rule book that it's a really 738 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,880 interesting looking game and that's something that I would, 739 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,240 it's more of a modernized historical game. 740 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,440 Let's let's put it that way. It's not DBM or these kind of 741 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,760 old fluffy wuffy type games where they're just really boring 742 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,840 and intricate movements and all that kind of stuff. 743 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,000 It's all pre measured. You can pre measure everything, 744 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,640 which is excellent. I think that's a really good way 745 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,360 of doing it. It makes it open to play 746 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,440 remotely too. So we could play a game through 747 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,000 Discord or through through, through Zoom or whatever, and 748 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,680 you can measure out and say, OK, Josh, you wanna move? 749 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,480 Yeah, I gonna move me again. It's there and I just roll the 750 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,240 dice. And you know, it sort of opens 751 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:08,680 up for that kind of thing as well because it's only a small 752 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,240 model count. Yeah, I found. 753 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,120 I found that interesting because I've seen you mention it on 754 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,960 social media here and there, and I think Nick mentioned it as 755 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,640 well. The Medieval War Gamer. 756 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,160 I'm I'm actually intrigued to see how that works. 757 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,320 Set it up. Set it up, Yeah, Because I'm not 758 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,880 going. I'm not going to Wales anytime 759 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,200 soon. So what do I need? 760 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:36,960 2 retinues, yeah. Is there 2 Red news, 2500 point 761 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,840 red news and away you go. Another another thing I'll say 762 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,680 about that's another great strength about the Barons war is 763 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,400 that they actually have an online army builder and this is 764 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,560 a big thing. So people who want to just tink 765 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,160 around the rules and just have a look at Red News, how to build 766 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,720 them, that kind of thing. You can go to warhost.com and 767 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,600 you can there's got like downloadable assets there like 768 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:06,240 STLS for terrain and you've got the army builder which is just 769 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:12,040 now in its in its sort of basic form just covering the Barrens 770 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,960 war book and the red news covered in there. 771 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,440 But I know that the other death and Taxes, Conquest and Altrima 772 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,440 will come out at some point in the future too. 773 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,080 So you can have in particular sort of retinues to build those 774 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,240 online as well and you can print out your lists and use those, 775 00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:32,080 which is really handy. So that's another great strength 776 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,840 that they've got there already, another good asset. 777 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,960 Yes, I think, I think it's world host dot online actually. 778 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,720 And yeah, I I just recorded in this morning, I've recorded a 779 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,160 very short video about how to use it. 780 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:55,440 It was more like showing an example of the my first revenue 781 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,840 that they built on that and how because I built my first retinue 782 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,800 and now I just tweak it for different you know use different 783 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,600 units for various things. So I did did something like 784 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,000 that, explain certain things like for example one thing 785 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:21,360 about, you know, range weapons is like it only shows like short 786 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,480 range over there, like what you can need to roll for short range 787 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,560 and just for people to remember that if they shoot from the long 788 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,600 range they have to add 1 on top of that. 789 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,320 So I explained those little bits and pieces over there and showed 790 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:40,640 really how easy it is. It's you know and you can really 791 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,480 play with it like you know nothing stops you. 792 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,840 You just update the numbers sorry the points you want to 793 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,360 play the game with you you want to build your retinue for and 794 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:56,320 then you just go ahead and it will tell you actually if you 795 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,920 have, if you crossed, if you if you have. 796 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,200 I think that the rule is that your command groups cannot be 797 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:10,160 more than 50% of your revenue and as soon as you go across you 798 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,720 will have message, OK, you're command groups are more than 799 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:16,320 50%, so. So it's very useful, very 800 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,560 helpful in that way for sure. And you're gonna have at least 801 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,640 10% green troops, so yes, inexperienced like farmers with 802 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,680 the with clubs and that kind of thing. 803 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,680 So yeah. The way I build my retinue or 804 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,800 like I didn't really. I think what's really got me 805 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,120 into that gaming is like storytelling because I'm kind of 806 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,240 storyteller in many, many ways and I love stories and I didn't 807 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,680 go to the book. I said all let me build the 808 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,200 greatest army already I can master from this. 809 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,280 No. I just was oh, I want Templars. 810 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:57,760 I really want Templars. I want they are massive great 811 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,760 Knights. Let me get like 4 war horses and 812 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,720 then I I need some like you know foot nights as well And I made a 813 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:09,480 group of foot nights and then I was like OK, I need some missile 814 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,360 weapons so get some you know. And I, I, and then I, the rest 815 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,440 of my retinue are monks. So I have literally I have I 816 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:25,000 have two strong groups a veteran, a veteran commander on 817 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,360 his war horses who came from Ultramar on the mission, you 818 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,760 know through Europe. You know they are veteran 819 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,680 because they not only fought in Ultramar, but during the mission 820 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,240 during you know they had their skirmishes. 821 00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,280 They are veterans. The Foot Knights are local 822 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,320 Templar Knights. You know, in England, you know 823 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,680 what I mean? They are just regular. 824 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:50,920 They they they experience, they've seen, you know, they've 825 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,920 seen conflict. But they didn't have that 826 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,360 journey. They haven't been in Ultramar. 827 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,800 They are not as experienced. And then I have just like green 828 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,360 the green monks who are like, you know, some local priests or 829 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:15,360 whatnot and and that it's somehow I managed to work quite 830 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,120 well. I mean play quite well with that 831 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,920 red in you. It works very well. 832 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,280 That power, you have a little bit of power and then you're 833 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,760 just surrounded by crowd and it seems to work. 834 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:36,560 It's great for getting losing. The words come on objectives, 835 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,480 here we go. It's very great to hold 836 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,560 objectives if you need to. It's very go to go and grab 837 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,080 objective if you need to. Because what I like about 838 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,520 Baron's War, it's not just, I don't like kill games. 839 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,640 I like, you know, specific scenarios and that brings joy to 840 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,760 me. You have to think, you know, 841 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,360 yes, your opponent may like almost destroyed your retinue, 842 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,560 but you hold what is the most important in that scenario and 843 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,480 that's your aim not to kill them. 844 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,080 You just want to and and that's what I love about it, you know, 845 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,560 you have that specific focus. Otherwise it would just get very 846 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,280 boring to me very quickly I think. 847 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,440 Yeah, that's really important to me too. 848 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,760 And that's another thing like about Test of Honor, it's got 849 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,560 like these linked scenarios in there. 850 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,200 So once if when you play the first one, it has consequences 851 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,600 for the second one and that has consequences for the third one. 852 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,760 And it sort of goes along like that. 853 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,360 And it's got a nice little footnote of the background of 854 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,960 the story. And it gives you sort of this 855 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,560 immersive feeling that you you know that you're actually 856 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,400 involved in something and it actually matters. 857 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,960 And I think Barons War does the same thing. 858 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,960 It gives you these different scenarios, maybe not linked, but 859 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,520 on that War host.com site, I'll leave a link in the show notes 860 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,840 for people to access that website because I might be 861 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,880 saying it wrong. But in there they've got like 862 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:04,640 downloadable campaigns. So you've got specific scenarios 863 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,960 or campaign games you can download and play. 864 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,720 So there's lots of options here. It's not just, it's not just sit 865 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:13,560 in one little shoe box. It's got quite a lot of 866 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,320 different, you know, branches leading out into different areas 867 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,440 and different theaters and that kind of thing as well. 868 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,720 So there's a lot to take in there. 869 00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:26,440 You know, it's not just Knights, you know, a crusading out in the 870 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,640 Middle East. It could be your your merry men 871 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,720 with Robin Hood fighting off the fighting off the Knights in the 872 00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:40,560 forests of of Nottingham, you know, or it could be you're just 873 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,600 a Baron fighting another Baron, you know, in a certain type of 874 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,680 scenario. So there's there's lots, lots to 875 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,920 like basically, you know, it's got something for everybody 876 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,040 there. And if I'm honest with you, like 877 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,960 that Robin Hood, that was a very clever move on the future site 878 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:02,400 because like the, you know, going back to that moment where 879 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,000 Ian started to talk about Mark and everything and we started to 880 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,240 look on the website and I was like, oh, and there's a little 881 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:11,320 Robin Hood too. I in the end, I never get it. 882 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,560 But I was like, oh man, you know what I mean? 883 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:21,120 And I and then some of our friends, John, who actually I 884 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,760 will be doing a video for another game as well because he 885 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:32,240 just produced a fun storm ship. Storm, no storm ship troopers. 886 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,080 Is that how? What's the movie called? 887 00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:38,400 Starship Troopers, I think. Starship Troopers here we go. 888 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,600 He created 6mm game and it looks beautiful and I will be filming 889 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,720 that for the channel as well on on Saturday. 890 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,240 And he got into barons were as well, and he got the merry man 891 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,080 and he actually won the first battle of Cardiff with them. 892 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,320 So like the little tournament that I organized in Cardiff. 893 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,960 So yeah, yeah, yeah. The Robin Hood is definitely a 894 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,600 clever, clever move from from the company. 895 00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:08,720 It's a beautiful like they've got an army deal on on futsal 896 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:12,000 miniature.com website and I was so tempted to get that because 897 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,200 it's like only 100 bucks and you get basically a huge 500 point 898 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,240 retinue. You get the books for free 899 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,800 because you like, you get the death and taxes book and then 900 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,080 you get the PDF for Barons War. I mean it's really good. 901 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,120 Like, it's really good and the quality of the sculpts are 902 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,200 beautiful, you know? And yeah, so you can find. 903 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,040 Any, any any of them of these boxes that they actually have 904 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,000 online are definitely worth worth getting. 905 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:44,640 Like, you know, I just had like the box of well, I, I, I, I did 906 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,080 kind of win it. But we are speaking about what's 907 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,080 inside. I just got the Vikings. 908 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,520 I thought because I I would like to get into Conquest and it's 909 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,240 just like the stuff that is in the box, that's it's like 50 lbs 910 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:05,240 in you know in EU KS money or like you know some, some are 60 911 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:06,800 or some. There are different things that 912 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,520 you can choose and it's definitely it's enough to start 913 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,640 playing and very, very good 100%. 914 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,040 Yep, Yep. So they're deals there, and a 915 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,320 lot of the deals have either books in physical form or PDF 916 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,360 form. Yeah. 917 00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:24,680 So you can you can get in there quite easily without a huge 918 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,200 expense and out huge outline especially if you look at the 919 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,480 new old world prices. I mean that's that's that's not 920 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,120 to turn anybody off war gaming I think. 921 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,720 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 100%. 922 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,520 And the miniatures are so you've got some really good quality old 923 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:42,640 school miniatures, all metal. And yeah, it's a good product. 924 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,880 I mean that's the only only reason why I'm sort of harping 925 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,200 on about and I'm sure some people out in the crank and man 926 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,120 think I'm going completely crazy maybe because I'm turning 50 927 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,640 this year and I'm sort of looking more to a historical 928 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,800 game. I'm getting older now. 929 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:59,240 Maybe that's why gems from, you know, really, you know and and 930 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:01,720 Futsal is a small operation. It's a small company. 931 00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:05,760 And he, I really urge people to go and check out your interview 932 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,640 you did with Andy talking very humbly about his experiences 933 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,240 forming well in partnership with Futsal and the difficulties they 934 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:17,320 have to overcome. And the expense it costs, you 935 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,960 know, the the enormous amount of money it costs to to make games 936 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,880 to make these miniatures, you know to produce something so 937 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,240 beautiful like this. It's not free. 938 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,560 It comes at a huge amount of expense and and a big risk, you 939 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,720 know. So he was very candid in his 940 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:35,200 interview about talking about that and his experiences with 941 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,760 it. I think 1 the the the massive 942 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,200 strength and something that's really that I really enjoy about 943 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,920 Futser is how community driven company it is. 944 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,680 I think I I I I don't think I witness anything like that in 945 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,720 gaming. Of course I'm a gaming teenager, 946 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,120 but you know what I mean? You know, they are open. 947 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,280 They are always there to answer questions and see, you know, 948 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,160 even the tournaments, like the comp tournaments. 949 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:11,240 I've done a tournament at Britt Gun in Nottingham actually last 950 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:17,560 August for them and spent a great evening with them, like 951 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,640 you know, just just just being out, having food and just 952 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,320 chatting about everything and how how much they supported the 953 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,640 tournament with the prizes they brought in. 954 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:33,400 It was just like, I mean I I had no words. 955 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,360 I still have no words. Just really, really great 956 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,040 community driven company and really nice guys. 957 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,160 Seriously. So yeah, definitely worth 958 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,600 looking into it and just like, you know, get involved because 959 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,000 it's it's, it's it's not only the amazing quality product, but 960 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,720 there is there are also great people behind it for sure. 961 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,840 Absolutely. And I really want to support 962 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,480 Futsal because, and for that reason, they were really good 963 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,480 guys and I really want to see them succeed because I know they 964 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:10,280 don't get a lot, a lot of sorry exposure online and social media 965 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,480 platforms. I've noticed on Instagram they 966 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,720 get very little likes or very little, you know, you just need 967 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,160 more eyes on their product, more people looking at this stuff. 968 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,960 And and then of course people playing the games. 969 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,080 If people see them playing the games in the stores like they do 970 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,800 in your store in Wales, I think at Firestorm you guys play a lot 971 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,960 there people. Firestorm and the antics as 972 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,920 well. So there are two, two stores 973 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,640 that we, yeah. That's a big that's a big 974 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,880 motivator for people. If they see people playing it, 975 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,320 they get engaged with it. They find out what it's all 976 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,160 about and they go, oh cool, I'm I'll get a rent you then I'll 977 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,520 I'll see you next next weekend and have a game with you. 978 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,920 You know what I mean? So, and then the you know your 979 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,240 YouTube is a big help and I hope at some point in the future, 980 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,800 long, long in the future I suppose me getting my stuff 981 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,480 together and actually getting a game and filming it on the Crown 982 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,720 of Command channel, which would be really exciting. 983 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,480 But in the meantime, I can interview you guys talking about 984 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,760 it and getting me more motivated and hopefully inspiring other 985 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,040 people in our community to sort of have a look at it and picking 986 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,760 up their own starter set and start getting painting and start 987 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,840 getting yeah. 100 percent, 100%, that would be great. 988 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:23,120 We actually, we are meeting now on Wednesday and with Mark and 989 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,480 Ian. So we're gonna film a battle 990 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,240 report and more you know introduction to Baron's War 991 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,560 videos as well. So there will, there's 992 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,760 definitely more content coming for the game and I think with 993 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:44,720 we're going to do 700 points, continuation of of battle 994 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,040 reports. So again the same, you know, 995 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,000 Retinue Commanders will face off, but we're going to play 700 996 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:57,240 points game now instead of 500 to see how you know because 700 997 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,720 points, 500 points is great. This is the first, not the 998 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,240 first. The first game of my retinue 999 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,480 that I played was 500 points actually, with Ian at his place. 1000 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,440 Just because you know. You have to paint all stuff you 1001 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,920 have to you know, so and so 500 is great introduction, but the 1002 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:23,880 game feels amazingly at 7 hundred 750 points and that's I 1003 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,800 would say that this is the standard we kind of play now and 1004 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,760 700 seems to be standard for the tournaments that that are being 1005 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,280 organized. But yeah, and you know, with 1006 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,600 Ultramar, actually that 700 points doesn't necessarily gives 1007 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:45,160 you more miniatures, that your miniatures kind of can be more 1008 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,360 expensive if you know point wise. 1009 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,000 So yeah, definitely more content, definitely more content 1010 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,240 coming and we're gonna do Ultramar soon as well. 1011 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,480 Oh. OK, I look forward to that 1012 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,800 because that's really my of of of passion at the moment. 1013 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,360 Yeah, yeah. There, there's, there's, there 1014 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,640 are some things planned for Ultramar that we can't talk 1015 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,760 about, yeah. I'm very excited then. 1016 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,840 But definitely some battle reports coming from that. 1017 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,240 One now I'm really looking forward to seeing you a nice 1018 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,960 desert table with all the with the with the fortification, the 1019 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,360 hospital on there and the palm trees. 1020 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,360 Yes, yes. You know, that's my dream, 1021 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,960 that's my, that's my sort of layout. 1022 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,600 I'm going to try to work towards this year, everything going well 1023 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,680 and then getting my good friend Stephen up here to to play out 1024 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:38,680 the scenarios because he's got AI painted a massive saga army 1025 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,120 for him of all the Islam force forces. 1026 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,640 So he's got all the miniatures, basically. 1027 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,000 Brilliant for that. He would also need to 1028 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,720 concentrate on my Crusader army and then we're right, we're 1029 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,120 right way to go. So hopefully I'll get well. 1030 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,080 Here, Crusader, the army will look phenomenal. 1031 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,920 That's the one thing that I know already after seeing this first 1032 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,600 quarter miniatures. Well, I'll, I'll. 1033 01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:59,720 I'll. Work on it. 1034 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,320 I'll work on a painting video for doing the the military order 1035 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,920 commander, the foot soldier guy. So I'll release that on my 1036 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,760 channel at some point. Hopefully towards the end of 1037 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,200 this month. I'll have that up and so people 1038 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,480 can see how I'm painting them and you know. 1039 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:20,080 I will, I will try to, I will try to to do my best to imitate 1040 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:21,200 your. Style. 1041 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,120 I hope so, mate. Yeah, honestly, because the 1042 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,240 beauty of it and they'll yeah, the beauty of painting those 1043 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,760 miniatures because of the scale, because of the size. 1044 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,080 And of course I'm painting them all black because they're 1045 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,280 hospital at nights. Yeah. 1046 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,160 So it's it's kind of easy for me. 1047 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,360 So I can get them done pretty quickly because it's really just 1048 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,760 black. And then for their for their 1049 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,360 cloth, you know their cloaks and that kind of thing. 1050 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,520 Silver for their weapons and armor and then just brown for 1051 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,360 their belts and and that's kind of thing and that's really it. 1052 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,640 And the Shields and stuff like that. 1053 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,400 So it's not an enormous task, you know? 1054 01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:02,560 I think what I think what brings yours pops out is like you you 1055 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:08,880 you work a little bit gently on on edge highlights you know you 1056 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,320 you you I can see the mid tones there and then you know you have 1057 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,320 a highlight much brighter and I think that's that's the strength 1058 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,360 of it that that contrast actually and pops them out where 1059 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:24,520 when I paint mine I use much darker colors to bring get up a 1060 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,040 little bit. So if you look closer, you kind 1061 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,680 of see what's going on there, but from the distance you don't 1062 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,800 have it and yours are just like popping out and that's I think 1063 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,720 that may be something I I I I need to try. 1064 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,520 So I'm waiting for that. Well, I'll be coming soon, man 1065 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,360 for sure. For for for yourself and anybody 1066 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,400 else who's interested. And I hope then they can see 1067 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,960 what I'm doing with them with the barons wall miniatures and 1068 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,120 there'll be more to come and more content to come. 1069 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,200 So as I really feel passionate about this game and the 1070 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,880 miniature line and I think people should really give it a 1071 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,360 go and hopefully jump on board with us. 1072 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,080 OK guys so. But it's been a wonderful, 1073 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,960 wonderful chance to catch up with you now to talk with you. 1074 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,280 And I hope we can bring you back with Mark at some point in the 1075 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,920 future to talk about how you're going with your YouTube channel 1076 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,200 now. Your YouTube channel is called 1077 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:24,600 Rye Mouth. Yes, yes, it's, it's actually 1078 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,240 Boleswarf Chivoste. It is Ramov. 1079 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,880 It's it's it's the name of one of Polish kings from medieval 1080 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,880 times, and that's where that comes from. 1081 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,240 That's where. It comes from version of, I 1082 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,200 believe. I think Ramov is much easier to 1083 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:45,600 say than chivoste, so I thought I'll just call it like with the 1084 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,280 English meaning. OK, great. 1085 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,720 OK, that's nice. It's got a bit of history there 1086 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,080 too, in the name. That's nice. 1087 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,240 That's wonderful. I thought it was. 1088 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,240 I thought it was the the Township you lived in or 1089 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,400 something in Wales. So, OK, great. 1090 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,280 Yeah, I'll leave links for your YouTube channel. 1091 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,840 I'll leave links for Futsal Miniatures and the War Host 1092 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,040 website, so people can get in touch with that and then they 1093 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,400 can make up their own minds and have a look, even pick up the 1094 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,320 rule book as APDF. Just look through it and just 1095 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,160 check it out. You know it's not very 1096 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,920 expensive, so but for now mate, I'll let you go. 1097 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,320 You're probably really tired and want to go back to bed, so 1098 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,560 thanks again. We'll paint your miniatures, 1099 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,480 mate. That's all you need to paint 1100 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,440 your miniatures. I. 1101 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,280 Think it's great for that, but yeah, nice and great to talk to 1102 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,360 you. Thanks for inviting me. 1103 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,560 My pleasure, bud. Take care. 1104 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,400 Take care, mate. Thank you.