1 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,440 All right, so welcome back to the Crown of Command, and we've 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,520 got a very special guest here. We've got David Martin all the 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,240 way from the US talking about the call of the Crown Challenge 4 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:23,880 4. So it's back and better than 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,040 ever. Hey, David. 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,560 Hey Josh, thanks for having me on. 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Yeah, we, it certainly is back. And I, I hope better than ever. 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,360 I, I know GJ did wonderful things with it. 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,160 So I'm standing on the shoulders of the Giants here as I attempt 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,960 to bring the the Challenge into its fourth year. 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,560 Good on you mate. Now I'm glad you picked up the 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,800 mantle and taken it forward and made a lot of people happy. 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,640 There's a good number of contestants, I think 18 that are 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,160 participating, including yourself. 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,920 And we've just wrapped up a painting lesson just before 16 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,760 looking at doing non metallic metals on Heil. 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,280 So I wish you all the best of luck with that, David, 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,440 implementing all those techniques into your own army. 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,440 There's some pros and cons of doing it non metallic metal over 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,320 metallic paints. But as you know, but yeah, I 21 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:19,560 mean, I think everyone who's going to participate is bringing 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,120 something new, maybe a new army that they've never painted 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,960 before and incorporating some new techniques that they never 24 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:29,080 tried before. And it's really about pushing 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,480 your limits. It's not about, it's not a 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,920 really a painting competition at all in any sense. 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,800 It's more about challenging yourself to get those models 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,360 painted, get them on the table, hopefully to play with them and, 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,400 you know, doing something nice and thematic hopefully with your 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,520 army. So mate, let's let's talk about 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,880 it because I know it's already underway and it's kind of my 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,360 fault for not getting on earlier to notify people about it. 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,360 But then you've been really busy as well. 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,840 So and there's a number of painting challenges that's on at 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,680 the moment. But tell us, just tell us about 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,840 the actual challenge itself, how to get involved, if people can 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,160 get involved and what they need to bring mate. 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,720 So as you asked earlier this evening, we did kick off October 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,240 1st, but the challenge does allow you to use a Mulligan. 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,760 So if there's anybody out there who still wants to get in on the 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,560 action, you're welcome to. You can. 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Well, we'll say it's still not too late for you to join. 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,160 If you want to join in October and get something painted. 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,240 One of the nice things that we're doing this year is it's a 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,120 little more free flow. Basically you just commit each 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 month what you want to get painted for that month and 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,960 really the only rule for the first month is it's just got to 48 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,680 be 1 character plus any legal unit. 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,080 So if you're doing trolls I think that could be 3 models in 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,160 a character if you wanted to to really condense it down to to 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,360 the bare minimum. But most armies, it'll be 5 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,920 models, but that's still pretty manageable for most people. 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,600 I think. We're here recording on the 8th, 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,440 your time, Josh, October 7th, my time. 55 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,520 So there's still plenty of time if you want to get in, in and on 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,360 the action. I don't want to exclude anybody 57 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 just because you may not have heard about it or were late on 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,880 the draw and didn't get it in by October 1st. 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,040 We certainly want to make it as inclusive as possible. 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Great, mate. OK. 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,160 And so the first month is a character in a unit. 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,040 So that's going to be the first month and it goes. 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,560 And sorry, how long does it the the challenge go for? 64 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,960 Again, sorry. So we're going seven months if 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,640 my memory's not failing me here. So I think that'll put us into 66 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,800 to April or May. And basically each month what 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,800 I'll do is give a narrative prompt. 68 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,200 You can check that out. Mark and I are working together 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,160 to put together a little video on the YouTube channel each 70 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,960 month to kind of help you focus your painting. 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,320 And it's totally optional. Like if you want to just paint 72 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,920 what you want to paint, that's fine. 73 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,320 But if you kind of feel, if you're like me and you, you need 74 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,640 a little inspiration or motivation to get some painted, 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,040 I think it's a good way to kind of help you get excited, pick up 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 your brush and maybe get to something that you've been 77 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,440 putting off for a while. And so with that in mind, each 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,600 month we're going to we're going to give you a little narrative 79 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,920 prompt of something to paint this this opening month for 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,960 October. It's a character who's 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,480 essentially supposed to be you, but you know, you can take 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,640 whatever liberties you like with that and and then a unit of 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,520 troops that he or she could muster quickly and easily. 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,080 So I think kind of that the broad idea is, is kind of a core 85 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,080 unit, but you interpret what that means for you. 86 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,360 You know, for for my high elves this month I'm going to be doing 87 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,800 a unit of Bowman because it seems like that's something that 88 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:56,000 that might be on hand, the household guard of my particular 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,800 character perhaps. But for every person and for 90 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,560 every army, it's going to be a little bit different. 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,680 So I'm really looking forward to seeing what everybody comes up 92 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,240 with. And I've told people if you want 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,280 to throw in a few lines of narrative about what you're 94 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:13,920 doing and put that in with your submission each month, please do 95 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,320 that. And if I can find a way to work 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,560 that into our videos, I'm certainly going to do it. 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,760 That sounds great, mate. Yeah, we're going to talk about 98 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,440 your YouTube channel a little bit later on so that people can 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,760 a go and check that out first. Go and subscribe hopefully and 100 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:34,000 see the other 5th edition Warhammer Fantasy Battle content 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,480 you have there. I know our good, my good friend 102 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,240 Mastering of arms Justin over in Canada will be very happy to see 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,800 that if he's not already a subscriber, he's a big 5th 104 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,520 edition fan himself. And we want to get, we want to 105 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,680 beat the drum because we had Joe on before talk about a 5th 106 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,760 edition tournament in New Zealand there. 107 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,520 So we want to keep beating the drum of all these, the older 108 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,160 editions because I know a lot of people really love that and they 109 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,400 want to follow that not only in challenges, but obviously 110 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,840 hopefully playing the games and watching people play games if 111 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:10,600 that's not an option and being involved somehow. 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,720 Now I've got a, I've got an admission that I and A 113 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,360 confession that I actually haven't joined the call of the 114 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Crown. I did fail terribly in the last 115 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,080 one. I think it was number 3 when GJ 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:28,280 was running it and I had a lot of just, I just couldn't get 117 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:29,880 anything painted for whatever reason. 118 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,680 I can't remember what it was. Obviously it's just two at a 119 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,520 time and being very busy. So sadly I couldn't contribute 120 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,000 last time. I'd like to contribute this this 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,160 time if I can because I've got time to do it. 122 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,080 And but I am part of another challenge now we're going to 123 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,160 talk about the gathering of mighty painters. 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Maybe you're aware of it, David as well. 125 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,120 There seems to be about three of them at the moment, all cropped 126 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,080 up at the same time. And then I did opt to do that 127 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,400 one. But then why not, you know, 128 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,280 cross them, you know, have that like be part of one, but then 129 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,800 submit entries for the other ones as well. 130 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,200 There's no, there's no laws against that. 131 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,600 And what I thought of because, you know, you have a character 132 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,600 and a unit. Well, my first month is going to 133 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,120 be a unit, so I can pick a character that's going to be 134 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,640 matching my theme of my empire army, which would be Middenheim. 135 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,160 I've got the the white Lions that I have to not the white 136 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,840 lion, sorry, the Knights of the White Wolf that I have to paint 137 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,640 up for the first month. And I'll do the electric count 138 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,480 for the character and I can do a back story narrative for the 139 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Call of the Crown and still have those two painting competitions 140 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,240 still run them simultaneously to each other, but obviously 141 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,920 painting different things depending on the on the month 142 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,800 and what's required. But, you know, keeping one very 143 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,680 narrative themed, keeping the one, the other one sort of just 144 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,640 as part of the challenge and narrative if if it needs to be. 145 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Yeah. But there's no reason why you 146 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,120 can't do you can't cross them over. 147 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,200 You know what I mean? You can't. 148 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Yeah, and and that's absolutely correct, Jack, somebody 149 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,760 mentioned to me, I forget who it was in the discord asked, you 150 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,320 know, I, I already signed up for call the Crown 4, but I want to 151 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,120 do gathering of mighty painters. Do you mind if I do both with 152 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,480 the same minis? And I have absolutely no problem 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,680 with that. And I think somebody asked 154 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:29,200 Marcel in the Gathering of Mighty painters discord thread 155 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,080 if that was OK and he seemed to be OK with it. 156 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,720 So I, I think as long as both challenges are are OK with it, I 157 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,520 don't see a problem with it. I know I, I wanted call the 158 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,440 crown to be as open and inclusive as possible. 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,080 And, and kind of on that note, we did throw it open to, to non 160 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,160 GW miniatures. I think the, the guideposts 161 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,880 there that I gave was, was if it, if they're in the spirit of 162 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,000 hero hammer or old hammer and you feel like they kind of fit 163 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,760 that ethos, then then I say, and that's what you want to paint or 164 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,800 that's what you the only thing that you have to paint, but you 165 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,640 want to do the challenge, I say, please bring them in. 166 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,160 The more the merrier. We're, we're happy to have you. 167 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,680 And, and, and with that in mind, you know, our, our, it's kind of 168 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:23,160 1/3 through 6th edition kind of broadly kind of a challenge, 169 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,480 right? Like that's our, our, our, our 170 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,680 era, if you will, or, or era as I guess, plural. 171 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,440 It's kind of of the spirit that we're looking for with call the 172 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,600 crown for that. That's kind of what we're hoping 173 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,520 to, to recapture here as we, we paint up our minis. 174 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,680 And so whether it's it's all GW Citadel Marauders stuff from 175 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:46,280 those days, or if it's a different sculptor or even more 176 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,760 modern stuff that's that's not in that style that really speaks 177 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,800 to you and you want to join the challenge, bring it on in. 178 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,480 You know, we'd love it. We'd love to have you. 179 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,760 That sounds good, mate. I think that's a very welcome 180 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,480 invitation. Anybody out there who wants to 181 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,680 join in, however big or small the Army is, it doesn't really 182 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:07,360 matter as long as you're part of in, in getting involved with it 183 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,640 and participating, sharing your pictures around of all your 184 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,760 unpatted lead and then at the end of the challenge, showcasing 185 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,000 your wonderful array of painted models with a nice backdrop and 186 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,920 everything as well. Yeah, I think it's brought a lot 187 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,320 of joy and great, you know, involvement with a lot of people 188 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,080 across, across all parts of various continents around the 189 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,280 world. And it's been awesome to see and 190 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,800 it's still going, which is amazing. 191 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,560 So now we know we've got about 18 participants, we'd like to 192 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:40,080 see some more as well. But you know, I'm not putting 193 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,720 too much pressure on you though, David, you know, don't overload 194 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,480 you with. I think the very first one we 195 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,840 did was crazy. I think it was like 60 people or 196 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,160 something that we did, I think back in that day, those days. 197 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,600 But of course, obviously, over time it sort of dwindled down a 198 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,480 little bit. But yeah, always get people 199 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,400 asking, you know, when's the next challenge going to be? 200 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,000 So hey, they've got quite a few to choose from now and they can 201 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,440 integrate those three. There's the four the Taylor 4th 202 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,440 Gamers that Dave Gilson is running on his Facebook group, 203 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,720 and then that's obviously the Call of the Crown and then the 204 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,520 the. What the? 205 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,320 What I say it was the mighty painters gathering. 206 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,560 Mighty painters. There you go. 207 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:21,280 There's so many. I can't, I can't remember all 208 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,520 the names now, the titles of them. 209 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,520 But yeah, there's quite a few to choose from. 210 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,960 And then I think there's the Old World Army Challenge. 211 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,200 That's true. So 1/4. 212 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,520 So yeah, there's so many now, which is great. 213 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:39,760 I mean, and so it should be. And so hopefully people can get 214 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,800 in touch with you about that. So what's the best best way of 215 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,280 getting in touch with you mate? To do that, so the very, very 216 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:52,680 best way is if you go to the call the crown channel on on the 217 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,440 on your Discord and just tag me in a message there. 218 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,480 I try to check that at least once a day. 219 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,600 So that's a good way. Or you can just PM me directly 220 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,080 on the Discord too. But if you want to be old 221 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,360 fashioned like me, you can also send me an e-mail. 222 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,680 I set up an e-mail at callofthecrown@gmail.com if you 223 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:18,000 want to fire off an e-mail. And we are using e-mail because 224 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,160 I'm old fashioned for all your official submissions. 225 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,000 So so anything official you want to submit to me for an entry, 226 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,440 send it. Send it there to call the 227 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,200 crown@gmail.com. But please, as I've told people, 228 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,240 don't let that discourage you from sharing all your pictures 229 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,720 and talking in the Discord. We, we love to see it. 230 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,640 It's just so many people are, are talking and sharing in there 231 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,400 that if I have to go back and, and scroll through to recapture 232 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,800 everybody's entry from there, it'll take me probably a whole 233 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,000 day to do that. So it's just makes my life a 234 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,440 little easier if it's all just sitting in my inbox there. 235 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,080 But but please do come on in and, and join the conversation. 236 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,040 There's some interesting stuff. People are already sharing what 237 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,520 they're working on, which is, which is great to. 238 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,280 Good on you, mate. OK, excellent. 239 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,920 So they've got the details there to contact you in two different 240 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,760 ways of doing so. Yeah. 241 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,120 Feel free to come and join our Discord group at the Crown of 242 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,800 Command to get involved either the panning challenges and 243 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,520 there's a host of other things you can see and get in get 244 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,160 involved with. So I hope you can do that. 245 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,200 So all the links for those will be in the podcast show notes, so 246 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,160 please check those out. So going back to your YouTube 247 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,760 channel, because I'm a subscriber to The Fifth Hammer 248 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,560 YouTube channel, I really enjoyed the battle reports 249 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,520 you've done solo that you played by yourself there, David, using 250 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,840 all your wonderful empire and and high off and orphan gobble 251 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,520 models. What brought this channel about 252 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,480 though? Well, I think it was something 253 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,440 of a, of a hobby project, just this kind of a way for me to 254 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,640 kind of record what I was doing with, with my painted minis and 255 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,160 stuff like that. And that kind of dawned on me 256 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 one day because I, I was kind of pushing around some models doing 257 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,840 a little solo game one night after the kiddos went down. 258 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,640 I was like, you know, it'd be kind of fun to just set my phone 259 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,000 up and just record this. And then if I ever feel like 260 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,320 looking back, I don't know what, what, what did I play last year 261 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,080 or two years ago, then it'd be there and I could go back and 262 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,360 look at it. And I thought, you know, hey, so 263 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,440 primarily I think I did it kind of for me just as a hobby, kind 264 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,400 of another outlet for the hobby. But I also did kind of think to 265 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,160 myself like, well, maybe there's some people out there who might 266 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,080 enjoy seeing it. And if they do, that's great. 267 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,960 I know I've in a connoisseur of of many a Warhammer YouTube 268 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,960 page. I think probably starting with 269 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,120 yours, Josh, but but there are some some great ones out there 270 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,800 that I know that I just I love to tune into whenever I see them 271 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,560 come up. It's like an auto watch for me. 272 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,200 And so I thought, you know, maybe maybe there's some other 273 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,040 folks out there that really kind of came of age, I guess during 274 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,920 5th edition, you know, I kind of came into the hobby during 4th, 275 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,240 but but it was really 5th edition where I really kind of 276 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,520 really got into the games. I really had the money to start 277 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,520 buying more models to actually start playing real full games of 278 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,000 it. And so that was kind of the era 279 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,800 I wanted to go back and focus on. 280 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,760 And, and it was really the colorful era too. 281 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,000 So, you know, I thought, and, and I didn't see a lot of stuff 282 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,600 out there for 5th. I, I, you know, I kind of felt 283 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,560 like, well, you know, maybe maybe there's other other 5th 50 284 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,120 Amber fans out there like me who, who wanted a little channel 285 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,640 to, to check in at and scratch that itch and, and if I can be 286 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,120 that for them. And that's awesome because yeah, 287 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,600 I, I saw a lot of, there's a lot of stuff out there for 4th. 4th 288 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,960 gets a lot of love and I totally respect it. 289 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,440 I mean, 5th wouldn't exist without 4th. 290 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,600 It's, it's, you know, it's the, the father of the grandfather, 291 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,360 if you will, of my 5th edition that I love. 292 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,720 So, so not taking anything away from it. 293 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,240 And 6th is what it is. It has its lovers and it has its 294 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,880 haters, but fifth kind of got lost in the shuffle there, at 295 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,240 least on YouTube. And so I wanted to give it a 296 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,600 little love and, and kind of give it its due that it it held 297 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,760 in my heart. Good on you mate. 298 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,480 That's excellent. I'm glad you did, because I'm 299 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,480 always very encouraging anybody who wants to take up a camera 300 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,640 and start filming their hobby progress, whether it be like 301 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,480 models they're collecting or games they're playing. 302 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,440 Yeah, that's that's always great to see. 303 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,000 So I'm always looking forward to the next video mate, that you're 304 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,480 going to. Yeah, yeah. 305 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,840 And I'll give a little shout out to Mark too, who joined me for a 306 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,920 remote play and then chimed in with the narration that we did 307 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,200 for the little battle report on it. 308 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,240 So that was great, great fun to get him involved and he 309 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:05,119 definitely adds a level of dignity and class to my team. 310 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,760 I'm sure. Be very happy to hear that, 311 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Mark. Yeah, that's good. 312 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:11,800 Okay, that's wonderful. OK, David, Well, thank you so 313 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,000 much again for letting us know about the challenge. 314 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Again, I apologise to yourself and other people that we got 315 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,240 there a little bit too late and it's already started. 316 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,160 But hey, it's not too late. You can jump in and get involved 317 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,960 now and get your entries in. I'm going to start, you know, 318 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,120 getting my stuff together and send you an e-mail about that so 319 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:32,120 that. You'd be wonderful, wonderful to 320 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:34,560 have you in, Josh. Yeah, mate, yeah, definitely. 321 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,320 I feel bad about not being part of it. 322 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,200 And then then then, you know, betraying you by joining another 323 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,400 painting challenge. So it may make it up by by 324 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,040 coming back and joining the call of the crown. 325 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,920 But thanks again, David. I really appreciate your time 326 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,280 today mate And I hope you get a few more people coming through 327 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,520 to to enter the call of the Crown. 328 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,720 Absolutely. Thanks for having me, Josh. 329 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,240 OK, mate, I'll speak to you again soon, OK? 330 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:04,280 Well, thanks guys for coming at this hour of the day or night 331 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,480 for you guys to come on and talk with me about the challenge 332 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,720 because there are a few out there. 333 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,920 And I really wanted to get the voices of the people who are 334 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,280 organizing these wonderful painting challenges for us and 335 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,840 to to learn about, you know, how to enter if people are still 336 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,480 curious and keen to do it. Because we always get messages 337 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,200 from people who say, you know, when's the next challenge on 338 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,360 whether it'd be the Call of the Crown or something, something 339 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:32,960 else. And it's just at this point 340 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,880 where we have three that I know of. 341 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,240 We've got the Tale of 4th Gamers that Dave Gilland is running and 342 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,560 then you guys are doing the The Gathering of Mighty Painters. 343 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,080 This is the second time it's been ran now. 344 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:53,440 And we also have the Call of the Crown or so we've got some 345 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,280 consecutive painting challenges that have been picked up. 346 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,720 And it just happens to be at the same time. 347 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,320 Because when I talked to Marcel about it before, I had the 348 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,480 impression it was going to be like later on. 349 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,360 And I didn't realize it was going to be so soon. 350 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:10,040 So I was really happy to see it prop pop up on Facebook. 351 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,840 And I'm really glad to see so many people have got behind it 352 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,360 this time. So thanks, Marcel, and thanks 353 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:18,160 Chris for coming on to talk all about it. 354 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,200 And thanks for having us. Yeah, I guess. 355 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,720 I guess Marcel got sick of painting Britannians earlier 356 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:30,480 than he anticipated. And it's maybe because Chris, 357 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,320 you wanted to start early before you have to move to Scotland, 358 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,280 so. Yeah, yeah, the the time is a 359 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,480 ticking. Yeah. 360 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,680 All right. So yeah, it's just a brief chat 361 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,760 to talk about the actual challenge itself and the the 362 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,600 guidelines to it and basically how do people, you know, get in 363 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,440 touch with you guys to find out more about it and how to enter, 364 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,680 if and what to enter. So I might get Chris to just 365 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,920 give us a bit of an outline behind the challenge and what 366 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,680 exactly is it and what do you need and when? 367 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,920 Where can you go and what do you need to start? 368 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,800 Yeah. So I guess essentially it's a 369 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,280 Hero Hammer only painting challenge. 370 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,560 So we were a bit elitist in that we only wanted to see 4th and 371 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,920 well, 3rd to 5th edition. I still wanted to sneak some 372 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,840 third into there. So Hero Hammer with friends. 373 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,800 But I guess essentially just then, if you go onto any of the 374 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Hero Hammer Facebook pages, we have our own one set up for the 375 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,560 challenge called The Gathering of Mighty Painters 2 challenge, 376 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,560 which I think we spanned most of the the Hero Hammer pages with 377 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,320 to launch it. So yeah, you do have to join the 378 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,040 page to see all the rules and details. 379 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,520 So you didn't really want to post that a humongous long post 380 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,880 on all the the Hero Hammer pages. 381 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,440 You join it, you can read the rules, you can leave. 382 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,720 You're not going to hurt my feelings if you read the rules, 383 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,680 you don't like it and you leave. That's cool. 384 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,040 It just seemed an easier way of having everything that the 385 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,840 people who care about, it's in one spot and you can come and go 386 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,920 no problem. Yeah. 387 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,880 So essentially seven months painting challenge with a 388 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Mulligan, given that we have December in there, seemed 389 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,880 fitting to have, you know, one month where if you just fall 390 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,600 behind or, you know, got stuff on, you can stay in the 391 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320 challenge, which gives you six other months. 392 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,920 So then we'll do themed months, which I guess is something that 393 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,160 I really liked about the challenge, which, you know, was 394 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,440 initially invented by Peugeot and he didn't have time to do it 395 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,640 again. I kind of love the idea of like 396 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,200 us all painting the same kind of stuff together. 397 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,120 So there's three unit months, a monster month, character month, 398 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,280 and a war machine month. So I think it's kind of cool to 399 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,400 have like everyone working generally together on the same 400 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,600 stuff, albeit we'll be doing different armies, but all 401 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,400 working on the same things together. 402 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,600 You know, if you don't have a monster in your army, I'm not 403 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,760 going to make you get one, but we'll all be painting monsters. 404 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,560 But if you want to paint another unit, you don't have a monster. 405 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,920 Look, that's cool, that's fine. But certainly as I'm painting my 406 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,720 dragon, it would be great to see everyone else, you know, doing 407 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,800 similar and we all suffer together or, you know, excel 408 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,360 together. And it's always, you know, great 409 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:25,920 to see other people stretch their painting skills. 410 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,160 And as you're kind of testing yourself, it feels like that 411 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,400 camaraderie is really exciting. Yeah. 412 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,280 So seven months Hero Hammer only jump on the Facebook page. 413 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:39,240 I think we're up to 60 odd members now. 414 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,640 And 28 people have posted their their whole army shot. 415 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,800 So you would think they're pretty much set and others who 416 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,200 will get bits and pieces as they go and and join. 417 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,480 So we'll see how many people start, but yeah, really excited 418 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,840 to to see that many Hirohammer small armies all being created 419 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,880 simultaneously, all alongside one another. 420 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Excellent. OK, And who was the person who 421 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,360 came up with the idea of picking up the mantle and taking it 422 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,520 forward? Was it you, Marcel? 423 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,880 Did you want to start the gathering Mighty painters again? 424 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Now not not really other Chris and I were discussing that for a 425 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,560 couple of months now that we want to start a painting 426 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,880 challenge that would follow into the footsteps of Gathering of 427 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Mighty Painters because we really enjoyed painting 428 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:43,240 miniatures of that period. And there was no Because in all 429 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,240 the other painting challenges, it is allowed to include six 430 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,760 edition models or whatever. And I mean, that's totally fine. 431 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,880 I, I think you have enough painting challenges for every 432 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,800 taste for every painter. And that's totally cool. 433 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,320 But we wanted one that was filling our need. 434 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,960 And we have our kind of personal painting challenge here on on 435 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,440 the Crown of Command discord going on now for I guess a year 436 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,520 now. That is the barded demon 437 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,040 challenge because we were both afraid of painting our 438 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,960 Pretonians. And it was not an official 439 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,680 challenge. It was just a challenge between 440 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,600 both of us just to kick ourselves asses to keep moving 441 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,800 on and painting these bloody Pretonians. 442 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,440 And, and so we decided it would be really cool to have a 443 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,320 challenge, like an official challenge with more people 444 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,240 taking part. And what I really, really loved 445 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:57,600 about the challenge Ojo started, that was all the flavour and the 446 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,520 background about the armies. It's not mandatory, but it's in 447 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,120 the spirit of. So for example, I'm planning to 448 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:11,480 paint Skaden and so I will write a little background about them 449 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,080 for the beginning, like a little intro. 450 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,920 And then with every unit or, or or monster or war machine or so, 451 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:25,040 I will add something to the overall background of the army. 452 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,600 And that that is something I did with the last in in the last 453 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,560 painting challenges. And I really enjoyed it. 454 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,160 It's more something for me. I really enjoy doing that, but I 455 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,960 have the feeling that other people also enjoy reading it or 456 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,440 writing their own stuff about it. 457 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:47,600 And so we discussed that and then also about when we will 458 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,120 start. And in the beginning, I guess it 459 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:54,720 was more like January, and now it's November. 460 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,200 January was your timeline. Yeah, who cares? 461 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,240 We have to fight our lead piles nonetheless. 462 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,440 And, and so we decided, OK. And I asked Ojo, hey, can we use 463 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,000 your cool name in a gathering of mighty painters? 464 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,440 And he said, yeah, yeah, of course. 465 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,360 And luckily he, I, I think he joined. 466 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,240 The yeah, yeah. Great. 467 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,520 And I mean, that's, that's the best compliment you can get. 468 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,120 Yeah. And and here we are. 469 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,040 Oh great. What is he entering? 470 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,600 OJ, can you remember? I'll have to go and check his 471 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,280 post Chaos. OK, nice. 472 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,160 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's said chaos, yeah. 473 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,960 Yeah, I'm really, I'm really happy he's he's in taking part 474 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,640 in it. And it's been yeah. 475 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,080 One of the things I've really enjoyed about this coming back 476 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,320 is that on Facebook and I've got other people joining the group 477 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,480 as well, they're not participating as such. 478 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,120 They just want to see the models. 479 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:01,040 And I really enjoy that as well, seeing everyone lay out all 480 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,600 their figures and showing what they're going to paint for the 481 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,120 challenge. And like Chris says, it's got 482 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,400 that camaraderie about it. You've got all this group of 483 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,240 guys who love all this sort of stuff, love all the models, love 484 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,680 this era and really want to. And it's, it's always nice to 485 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,080 see and refreshing to see that people actually have a lot of 486 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,560 this stuff still sitting there. There's an army that you know, 487 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,040 every, every year you think, OK, everyone's finished painting all 488 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,840 their stuff, but the every year that someone has to pull out 489 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,680 another box of all bags and miniatures again. 490 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,600 So it's really good to see that they're still going. 491 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,400 And I really enjoy looking through everybody's posts and 492 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720 seeing what stuff they've got and what models they have, what 493 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,920 treasures they have, you know, in front of them. 494 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,680 So it's really nice to see. And following that on Facebook 495 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:50,800 would be really, really great. So yes, so I wish everyone. 496 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,920 All the 20 odds so. Participants who are entering, 497 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,960 entering this and it's going to start next month. 498 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,120 So what is the first entry, Chris? 499 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:01,680 They're going to paint or November. 500 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,560 A unit, we start with a unit. So when I was talking, I guess 501 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,240 see, having been in a couple of challenges, it seems that the, 502 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,840 the common thread is it's a lot of work for the organiser trying 503 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,480 to find everyone's posts, whether it be some someone 504 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,640 Discord, some people e-mail that others will just put on Facebook 505 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,160 and trying to reconcile because you don't want anyone to miss 506 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,040 out, you know, if you don't put the effort in to painting the 507 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,720 stuff for the month. So I guess we've got a slightly 508 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,160 different format than in theory to make my life easier to 509 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,680 reconcile at all, which I've stolen off another painting 510 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,480 group I'm in. But yeah, we'll start with a 511 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,080 unit next month. So we officially start next 512 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,920 month. And I guess the format we're 513 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,440 going with is we've just created 2 albums in the album section of 514 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,840 the Facebook group. So then you can record like a 515 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,800 pledge. So this is the unit I'm going to 516 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400 paint. So bearing in mind the unit is 517 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,880 just the minimum in the Army's book. 518 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,280 So generally five or three for monstrous things. 519 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,040 You can just put a picture of your 5 Chaos Warriors and then 520 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,080 if you paint 20, fantastic, you only have to paint 5. 521 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,520 So you just put in a picture of your pledge of your Chaos 522 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,640 Warriors you're going to paint and then you just have to have 523 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,480 that in by the start of the month to I guess officially be 524 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,240 in it. Look, if you get it in a week 525 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,080 later, it's not the end of the world. 526 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,440 It just means you've lost a week. 527 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760 But I guess we, we need a picture of it unpainted to know 528 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,920 it was indeed unpainted in the 1st place. 529 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,880 And then there's another album for the completed one to show 530 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,800 that you have actually completed it in the month. 531 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,520 That one will probably give you like 24 to 48 hours Grace in 532 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,240 that I'm in Australia, my cells in Germany. 533 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,600 I might get confused as to what is the 1st of November. 534 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,360 They've just worked better for everyone. 535 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,840 If there's a little bit of leeway, but you you don't want 536 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,320 too much otherwise, I guess you know, at that point, once we're 537 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,640 a few days past, once we've got all the the photos out, the 538 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,880 album, you know, you want to make a wrap for the month and 539 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,000 share it on on all the Facebook groups about all everyone's hard 540 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000 work. So if if you post yours, you 541 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,200 know, two weeks later, I guess you're still in the challenge, 542 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,200 but you're not going to be in any of I guess our publicity 543 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,880 because we can't wait forever for you. 544 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,000 But I guess we're trying to be a little bit loose. 545 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,160 Well, we are definitely looser than the original version. 546 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,600 You know, I don't want to be the guy that takes joy from your 547 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,000 hobby, but you can't have to somewhat fall in line to get the 548 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,120 full experience. But you know I'm not going to 549 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,680 break your balls if you're slightly late or slightly out of 550 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,440 kilter. You know it's not my job to make 551 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,040 your hobby less fun. Yeah, OK, now that's fair 552 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,680 enough. I've been there. 553 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,000 I've been on the road of called the Crown and failing miserably 554 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,960 and given enough leeway to say OK, it's OK. 555 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,440 You know, you can come back next month or whatever and and then 556 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,840 fail the next month and then, you know, just ended up not 557 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,400 finishing it at all. So yeah, challenges can be a 558 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,200 challenge in the sense that, you know, you've got to be 559 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,240 disciplined, you've got to make sure you reach your targets, 560 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000 have a plan. You know, if you've got like, 561 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,000 for example, five nights to paint in a month, just have a 562 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,160 few hours a week, if more, if not more than to just sort of 563 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,120 tackle, you know, at least 1 1/2 per week and you're going to get 564 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,720 through OK. And make sure if you need to 565 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240 have that time to paint the banner and, and do the Shields 566 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,280 or what have you. So yeah, you need to manage it. 567 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,000 So it's probably good for people to sort of sit down and pencil 568 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,120 out what they have to paint each month and then work out of some 569 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,200 kind of time schedule that they can do that in. 570 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,840 As most of us are fathers or we have kids or we've got wives or 571 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,440 we've got, you know, jobs and, you know, all that kind of 572 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,360 stuff. So yeah. 573 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,400 But that's all part of them. And that's all the, I think the 574 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,720 enjoyment for me is getting those deadlines right to the 575 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,040 last day. I've always enjoyed pressure to 576 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,800 get that done at the last day and then having done anything. 577 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,080 Oh, thank God, I've got it done, you know, and it's, it's got the 578 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,040 photography in and I feel happy that I've actually finished a 579 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,520 unit or, or a character or something like that. 580 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,200 Yeah, I don't have the the breakdown of months in front of 581 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,840 me, but I'm pretty sure when I said it, I made sure that 582 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,720 December was war machines. So it's Christmas, you might go 583 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,760 away. You might work a lot. 584 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Anyone could do a war machine. So in a way that kind of saves 585 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,800 you that December Mulligan. That's always the risk. 586 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,960 So if I didn't do that, I apologize. 587 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,960 But I'm pretty sure I made a concerted effort since I work in 588 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,600 retail, so the amount of time off I'm going to get is nil. 589 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,720 So I I've got to keep myself in the challenge into the new year 590 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,960 at least. Right. 591 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,240 And of course these are minimum. So like, you know, if it's got 592 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,920 like a unit, you can paint one unit, you can paint 2 units, you 593 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,600 can paint 3 units, you know, whatever you want to do 1 war 594 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,240 machine, 2 war machines, what have you. 595 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,640 So it's really up to you how you know how much stress you want to 596 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,480 put yourself under basically in the challenge. 597 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,280 So what are you guys taking, Marcel? 598 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,120 What's your arm you're taking for the challenge? 599 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,040 Oh, I can show you. Hopefully I'm not dropping any. 600 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:10,400 Yeah, here. I'm I'm preparing these now for 601 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,160 the challenge Scaven. Beautiful So. 602 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:20,240 Kind of an hot army and I have also more miniatures in the 603 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,440 mail. So I think I will add up as we 604 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,160 go with the challenge. And I I think I will also, for 605 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,680 example, if I have paid a war machine and then maybe on top of 606 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:42,560 that, some plan rats or so. So you, you can also paint more, 607 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,320 but it doesn't have to be like more war machines in the war 608 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,960 machine one month or more characters in the character 609 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,720 month doesn't matter. It's just like a bonus. 610 00:33:53,600 --> 00:34:00,560 And for example, I think I don't have monsters, so I will paint 611 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,040 another war machine in the monster month. 612 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,920 At least that's my plan for now and I hope I will not burn out 613 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,760 because Skaven can also be a challenge, but I chose Skaven. 614 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,560 Besides that they are a beautiful models and a fun army 615 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,520 to play. And they have no mounds, so no 616 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,719 horses or or wolves or whatever. So that's a relief coming from 617 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,120 the plutoniums. Yeah, for sure mate. 618 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,080 It's going to give you lots of fur textures and those kind of 619 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,600 things, and probably a bit more looser painting style with the 620 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,840 Scaven, you know, So I hope you enjoy that. 621 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,880 That's great. How about you, Chris? 622 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,000 What are you taking mate? I guess just quickly something 623 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,880 Marcel then touched on is I guess with the format of just 624 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,000 uploading your photo at the start of the month, it allows 625 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,880 you then the freedom that you don't have to post a picture of 626 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,920 what your entire army will be beforehand. 627 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,560 So you can start with an army and then, you know, hit the 628 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,320 Facebook groups and eBay and build it as you go along, which 629 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,280 I think is, is a great way of, of getting you to kind of slow 630 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,280 growth. If if you're one of those weird 631 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,360 people out there that doesn't have 50 years worth of 632 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,520 miniatures in your cupboard, you can add as you go. 633 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,560 Myself, because I am a lunatic, I did briefly consider after 634 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,600 painting Brutonians for a year, painting another lot of 635 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,000 Brutonians for six months because I still have more. 636 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,560 But no, I couldn't do that to myself. 637 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,960 So I guess what I'm doing is, is my best friend passed away last 638 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,680 year and he was a high off player when we first started 639 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,440 playing. That was his. 640 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,200 His shtick was high elves and I was the dark elf guy. 641 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,800 So he didn't paint at all. He I think we probably had about 642 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,760 100 to 200 painting nights together over the journey and 643 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,400 I've never seen him paint a single miniature. 644 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,040 He was just always assembling while I was painting away. 645 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,960 So I've accrued a a 4th edition high off army. 646 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,320 So then the the plan is to paint that I guess in his honour to 647 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,560 paint the army that he never could or would or what have you. 648 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,280 But like his dream army, so I guess it kind of then has the 649 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,560 benefit of like I really want to finish it for him. 650 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,400 So that will spur me on. But also I never wanted a high 651 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,320 off army. I was a dark elf player. 652 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,920 So it'll there will be some dog days trying to trying to get 653 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,520 these guys done without the love of them. 654 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,280 But I guess the love of the project will hopefully get me 655 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,400 through and, and maybe it'd be one of those things where as 656 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,040 you're painting it, you know, I might fall in love with them and 657 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,720 all their gemstones when I when the paintbrush hits the model. 658 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,160 But yeah, it it was one of the last armies on board. 659 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,480 OK, well I hope you have fun with that and it's sad to hear 660 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,960 that someone is so young has passed away recently. 661 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,960 So yeah mate, he'd be looking down on you and probably 662 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080 assembling as you paint like he used to do in the in the old. 663 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Yeah, well, at least at least I know he won't judge me if I 664 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,280 don't get the if I don't make it get done. 665 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,200 But. You need, you need to set like 666 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,440 another chair aside next to you with some modelling tools and 667 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,360 everything for him so you can sit there and and do that as you 668 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,960 paint along stuff there. So that sounds great now and 669 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,560 recently and probably is, is there still is a treasure chest 670 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,640 of miniatures travelling around the world all the way from 671 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:31,000 Europe to Australia, the US and North America and back over to 672 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,720 to the UK. So Marcel, how's, how's the 673 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,640 treasuring trove going? The treasure trove. 674 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:45,040 Yeah, it's now in the Netherlands and will soon come 675 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,560 back to Germany and from Germany making a brief stop in Poland 676 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,800 and then coming back to me as the final stop in Germany. 677 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,840 So I'm really, really happy that so many people take part in it. 678 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:08,800 And we did it a couple of years ago for the first time. 679 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:14,880 And that was only Europe, including the UK, sadly, it was 680 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:23,120 right in the middle of Brexit. And so we had to tackle here 681 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,880 with custom declaration and so on. 682 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,080 But it, it, it worked out fine. So, and we really enjoyed doing 683 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,720 that. And then people asked me, hey, 684 00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:37,800 can we do that again? And of course, over the years, I 685 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,240 collected more miniatures. I have no use for, for whatever 686 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:44,680 reason. And, and so I packed a huge bag, 687 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:52,280 I think it was almost 10 kilos. And I counted them because for 688 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,320 custom declaration roughly around 250 miniatures. 689 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,200 And I sent them to here Chris, in Australia. 690 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,240 That was the first stop. And from there it went to the US 691 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:08,720 and then the UK and then now to the Netherlands. 692 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,640 And it's really, really astonishing. 693 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:17,800 What people are putting in, and we have the one rule is you post 694 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,320 a picture what you will take out and you will post a picture what 695 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:28,920 to add so that it is roughly a fair exchange. 696 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,320 Because not everyone knows the value of miniatures. 697 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,240 And if someone says, hey, that miniature you took is really, 698 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:39,720 really rare, can you please add up some or add some more 699 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,680 miniatures to to make it fair? That's totally fine. 700 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,240 But so far we had no problems at all with it. 701 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,680 And it's really great to see what miniatures people still 702 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,560 have. So for example we have some orcs 703 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:01,240 and skate and blisters and also a complete what's the name, 704 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,120 Cauldron of Blood for the Dark Hours still in the box. 705 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,840 So that's really, really great, and it's a nice way for people 706 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,880 to complete their collections or even start new collections, I 707 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,360 guess. Yeah, that's really wonderful. 708 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,840 Yeah, Sally, I didn't participate this year because I 709 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,280 don't, I actually don't have anything. 710 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,680 So I feel bad if to get something and then not be able 711 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,720 to put something back in. So hopefully next year I'll have 712 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:30,680 some extra surplus stuff lying around so that it might be 713 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,560 useful to somebody out there who knows. 714 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,160 But it's a great idea, great initiative. 715 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,400 And I'm really happy to see and follow on our Discord people 716 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,720 picking up these treasures, taking them out and putting 717 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,920 their own stuff, unwanted stuff that other people might want. 718 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,600 So it's it's a great, great, great community initiative guys. 719 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,800 So that's really nice. OK guys. 720 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,760 Well, I just want to say finally, I wish you all the very 721 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,840 best in the challenge. I hope everyone can pull through 722 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,440 all the participants who enter and they can see their army 723 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,640 realize at the very end, that's the that's the gratification you 724 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,120 get when you finish, finish a challenge. 725 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,760 So yeah, all the best to you guys. 726 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,840 Thanks. Thank you. 727 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,080 OK, guys, thanks very much again and we'll speak again soon. 728 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,960 Maybe after the challenge, we'll get you guys back on to talk 729 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,080 about how it all went and and maybe share some nice images of 730 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,120 the final contestant, you know, army shots and that kind of 731 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,440 thing. I think that'd be really nice to 732 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,760 see their efforts in maybe a live stream. 733 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,960 I think that'd be a good idea. Yeah. 734 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,040 Gathering a mighty Paint a live stream, that'd be nice. 735 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,880 So if you guys are willing to do that, I'll see you in seven 736 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,200 months. Yeah. 737 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,400 Sure. OK. 738 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,280 OK, guys. Thanks very much. 739 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:44,720 Yeah.