1 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,900 Hey buddy, then and thanks again for tuning in to another 2 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:25,500 episode. This is kind of like, annoying 3 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:31,800 9.5 before we lead into the the last and historic 100th episode. 4 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,700 It's a bit of an, a bumper issue with some bonus content. 5 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,900 We have a, some kind of a bit of a chat with me and John John 6 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:45,600 Webb when we did all the Epic reviews and we had a bit of a 7 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,200 hobby chat, that sort of extended our regular. 8 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,200 Time in the interview. So I sort of cut that and pulled 9 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,400 up on patreon for a while for people to listen to. 10 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,600 So I chucked it in there for you guys. 11 00:00:57,700 --> 00:01:01,000 And also we've got GJ talking about the call of the crown 12 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:07,100 October entries and how that's going and also about the old 13 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:12,100 Hammer Dutch event that was held in 2022. 14 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:17,300 Just recently actually And DJ bring some interviews with that 15 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:20,300 as well. So hopefully you will enjoy the 16 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:25,300 content in this, in this episode just to, you know, just to get a 17 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:28,300 fill in the gap between now and the big one we have with 18 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:30,500 antechambers talking about tyranids, which is really 19 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:33,000 exciting. It may just take a little bit of 20 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,200 time extra before we get that off the ground. 21 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:39,600 So until then guys enjoyed this episode and we look forward to 22 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,000 seeing you again next month for our 100th episode. 23 00:01:43,100 --> 00:01:44,000 So, take care. Care. 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:44,700 Okay. Bye-bye. 25 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:57,000 Hello, everybody. It's GJ with an update for the 26 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,900 call of the crown painting challenge. 27 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:05,900 The October entries are in and although we do still have some 28 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:09,400 stragglers that are quickly catching up at the time of 29 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,700 recording, I can say that October has been a major 30 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:20,600 success. We have in total over 21,000 31 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,100 points that have been Ended up across well, almost 80 different 32 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:30,100 people. There have been some who have 33 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:36,000 either not yet submitted anything or who have had to use 34 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,100 that. First Mulligan, I'm going to 35 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:44,400 count them real quick. There's two, four five, five 36 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,400 people so far that have used their Mulligan and sadly, we 37 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:54,100 have already had to say goodbye to one of Of our contestants 38 00:02:54,100 --> 00:02:58,200 Dave Galloway. He said that he was just too 39 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:04,100 busy with all the things going on in real life that even a 40 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:11,000 single Mulligan would not save him a said that he hopes to join 41 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,300 in next time. Dave made we wish you all the 42 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:18,600 best with the situation that you are in now. 43 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,300 In a little bit happier news, like I said, over 21,000 points 44 00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:34,700 painted, and over a quarter of this, is just due to three 45 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:38,000 people. Several people have submitted 46 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,800 large amounts of points. We have, for example, Grim, dark 47 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:50,200 roast, who is submitted a 669 points of dwarfs we have Yep. 48 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,800 And Danny who submitted five hundred and sixty points of dark 49 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,200 elves. There's also a flogger who 50 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:03,000 submitted a single vampire, lord, flat front car Stein, 51 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,200 which costs you six hundred and eighty points, which is a great 52 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,400 way to rake up those points. But these are not the people 53 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,900 that I want to shout out the people, I do want to shout out 54 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:20,399 are those that have painted almost or upwards of 1,000 55 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:26,000 points. And these are urine hunt ler, 56 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,300 who is doing a Wood Elf Army urine has painted, let's see. 57 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:37,200 Where is he? 934 points of wood elves. 58 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:41,200 This does include a lot on a dragon which quickly reacts to 59 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:47,200 the points, but he still has a very nice starter Army that. 60 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:53,800 He is presented to us and I think that by the time you 61 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,400 listen to this recording I will have everything up on my blog at 62 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,300 the moment. I don't have that yet that's 63 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:04,200 just because I'm waiting for these final few stragglers to 64 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,300 comment. Some people have been delayed a 65 00:05:06,308 --> 00:05:08,800 little bit. I'm not going to be too strict 66 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,000 on that lines but please don't take that as a leeway to slack 67 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,800 off. Let's see here. 68 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:20,200 Urine has Is Rudolph Force? Like I said, a lot of force 69 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,900 Dragon, he has scored a falconer, which he also 70 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:28,400 submitted for the war games, Orchards paint challenge for 71 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:34,600 October and he has a unit of a Glade guard with bows and a 72 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,500 command group. This is still a small force 73 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:42,800 compared to what the other two have submitted. 74 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,300 We have. Let's see. 75 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:48,300 Where is he in? My list, I'm trying to keep 76 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:51,200 track of everything in both an Excel file. 77 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,500 And I've got a Word document in which I collect all the entries 78 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:59,700 before I put them up on the website, we have Frozen orc who 79 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:08,000 is painting up tomb Kings and he submitted and an army of 1949 80 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,700 points. Not including magic items. 81 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:14,800 Sadly, it is not a legal Army because it's six addition you 82 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,900 need a tomb King to lead the I believe an eighth edition as 83 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:24,600 well to making or to Prints, but it's still a very impressive law 84 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,700 that he got here. He has to Bone Giants, he has to 85 00:06:29,700 --> 00:06:35,600 tomb scorpions. He's got a casket of Souls 2 86 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,700 units of Cavalry that he managed to squeeze in last minute. 87 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,200 A couple of Lich priest, a screaming skull catapult and a 88 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,800 unit of skeleton archers for almost 2,000 points. 89 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,900 Very Well done. But he does not take top 90 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:56,500 position this month that goes to and I hope I pronounced your 91 00:06:56,500 --> 00:07:02,200 name correctly, it's either I think's TN or tying, I'm 92 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:04,800 probably not Stein. It doesn't sound like an English 93 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,200 name as then I'm going with Stephen, please correct me if 94 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,900 I'm doing this wrong, he's painting skaven which is saying 95 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:16,800 something and that is upwards of twenty-five hundred points that 96 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,700 he said, It he doesn't know the exact points value because the 97 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:26,400 list he is using, is from a scenario that is. 98 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:30,800 I believe in the skaven Army book, but I'm not quite sure 99 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,400 about that. He has painted up a doom wheel, 100 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,300 and I'm going to call everything out. 101 00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:45,200 I don't think I even recognize everything on this picture, just 102 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,200 because I have not painted. It's cave and myself, but he has 103 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,800 a doom, really, a storm Vermin. I see Clan rats in there. 104 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Some rats, warms a lot of gutter Runners and assassin. 105 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,000 See has, let's check here if I am missing anything. 106 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Well, you can also read it for yourself. 107 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,700 He wrote up a nice bit of text there. 108 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:18,700 So for all of the entries combined, Over 21,000 points. 109 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:24,200 I think that is a very, very good start to the challenge. 110 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,300 And I know that a lot of people start off with this challenge, 111 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:34,700 full of fervor. And then, towards the end to see 112 00:08:34,700 --> 00:08:41,700 people not finding enough time having to drop out, maybe point 113 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:47,400 a painting less points, and some people are just at or just Just 114 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:53,600 around the bare, minimum for what they need to paint and they 115 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,500 will make up for it, hopefully, in later months, but let's see 116 00:08:57,500 --> 00:09:01,700 if we can keep this up. Let's see if we can paint at 117 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:05,800 least twenty one thousand points in November. 118 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,200 Thank you very much. Everybody for listening. 119 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Do check out all the pretty pictures all the awesome paint 120 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:19,500 jobs on my blog on GJ's. Shop dot wordpress.com. 121 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:22,700 I'm pretty sure there will also be a link in the show notes in 122 00:09:22,700 --> 00:09:27,000 the description. You can find all the info over 123 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,200 there. They October challengepost will 124 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,500 be right at the top of the page. It might take a little bit of 125 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:37,400 time to load because of all the pictures that you will depend on 126 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,100 your own computer and internet connection. 127 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,500 Thank you all very much for listening and to all the 128 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:49,200 contestants, thanks for Submitting such awesome photos 129 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,300 of your paint jobs and all the best of luck for this uncoming 130 00:09:54,300 --> 00:10:06,200 month. Do you make of space, dog? 131 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,500 When I, when I play the Third Edition because my first set 132 00:10:11,500 --> 00:10:15,500 right play Space hold the game, I wasn't overly. 133 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,100 Well, find the Marines is quite good. 134 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,000 I hated playing the Steelers. Okay. 135 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,400 I really just did not enjoy that experience of playing the 136 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,800 Steelers ago and it was quite boring, but the game was quite 137 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,000 good. I think it. 138 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,700 I think what sport it was, but we played a game mean a friend 139 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:39,400 of mine. At that time, we got to a point 140 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,700 in the certain moment of the game. 141 00:10:41,700 --> 00:10:44,600 I think I was playing the Steelers, and I really wanted to 142 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,700 win and I think obviously, you know, he wanted to win as well, 143 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:50,600 and it came to like a rules. Crutch like something happened 144 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,700 is where it was like, very ambiguous and I had 145 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:55,500 interpretation habit interpretation. 146 00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:58,900 And we've got quite heated about it, right? 147 00:10:58,900 --> 00:11:00,300 Yeah. And there's moments of the night 148 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:03,600 is ambiguous rule set that then. Yeah, craze that, that friction 149 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:16,100 of the game done tonight. Because it's sort of sport. 150 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:20,300 My whole kind of memory space Hulk because it gets so intense. 151 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:22,900 It was such an intense game. It's not like Wonder you got to 152 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:24,600 laugh and have a fun have fun with. 153 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,300 It's not like, but like playing blood Bowl, it's like a really, 154 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,600 really intensive. You know, I have to think a lot 155 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,500 about what you are, you going to forward, think about so many 156 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:37,600 different moves and think that My problem with it is it's more 157 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,600 like a kind of a puzzle the game if that makes sense like useful 158 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,400 self a plan to finish the puzzle and then you kind of execute the 159 00:11:44,408 --> 00:11:46,800 plan and if you got it right, it works. 160 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,000 If you got it wrong, you fail and there's not as much of that 161 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,500 kind of, you know, what I love in a war game is when you hit 162 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:55,400 like a moment of like, oh God, my plans once South and have to 163 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,800 quickly think of a solution and like pivot to a new strategy and 164 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,500 I just found with blood boil. You can't upload Bowie's, space 165 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:03,100 Hulk. You can't do that because you 166 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:06,100 don't have enough kind of resources and also its You know, 167 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:07,600 because it's all in tunnels which is very close. 168 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,200 Very a very key is very aliens, very cool. 169 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:15,300 But like you are in a tunnel with one way in and one way out, 170 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,000 and no maneuverability. So you can't be like, oh, you 171 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,700 know what? I'm going to refer you. 172 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:20,700 Ignore that flank and go down the other flank, or I'm going to 173 00:12:20,708 --> 00:12:23,100 send these guys on a Mad Dash 0 because you're like, well, I'm 174 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:24,700 in the tunnel. I've just got slog my way out 175 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:27,000 again. And yeah, I don't know, man. 176 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,900 Like, it's, I got the, the blood angels version and again, like 177 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,800 didn't even build it. I don't think it just sat there 178 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,500 for years. And a couple of years ago, I was 179 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:39,500 probably more than a couple years ago now, and I think about 180 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:42,700 it like me and Sam played it, and I was just like this is 181 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:44,300 space Hulk. Like this is what everyone's 182 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:49,400 excited about like he just feels so like, like predictable, if 183 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,500 that makes sense like yes, of the Marines are going to go in a 184 00:12:51,508 --> 00:12:54,200 line and the flamer will be at the back and the guy at the 185 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,700 front will be on OverWatch and each time you get to a section 186 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:59,100 one will peel off and start and it's just like, you just the 187 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:01,300 jeans to your player is just waiting for them to fail and 188 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:04,700 OverWatch role and jam their gun and then they've won, you know, 189 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:08,300 and I was like, that's not Testing to me that's to like 190 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,400 Saban Jamie, you know, very gamey game again, you know? 191 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,900 Yeah. Yes. 192 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:15,200 I was surprised because obviously it's you know like 193 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,800 when that box you were playing came out. 194 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,900 It was a kid in the noise also. Oh my God, I need this game, 195 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:21,900 like an interesting that you know, so talked about it before. 196 00:13:21,900 --> 00:13:26,300 My first experience of seeing people play games, virtual game 197 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,700 was some guys playing. I think it was technically 198 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:30,800 Advanced base Crusades, but it's hard to know because I think 199 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,900 they'd sort of maybe could have even been 40K, but they were 200 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:35,800 playing it on a space Hulk board. 201 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,400 As my first ever live in a visual representation of 40K 202 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,100 was, was Orcs versus Space Marines playing on a space hog 203 00:13:42,100 --> 00:13:43,600 board and I was like, that looks incredible. 204 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,500 You know, running through the tunnels and you know, I don't 205 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:47,300 think I've even seen alien at that point. 206 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:49,200 I was a kid but like yeah, visually it's brilliant. 207 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,900 Like the the concept is brilliant. 208 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,600 I just find the execution is not to my taste, shall we say? 209 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,700 But I know it's got fans. I'm you know I mean I'm the guy 210 00:13:55,700 --> 00:14:01,500 that hates Blood Bowl so I'm the bad guy, I get it but it's 211 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,300 rendered service row. Both those games in the 212 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:13,000 dangerous actually. Originally sure, yeah, yeah, 213 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:13,900 yeah. If you want 214 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:34,700 but I appreciate minority live. So many people doing so many 215 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:37,500 amazing teams. Huge tournaments like so people 216 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:40,700 love, you know, but it is not a game for me. 217 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:43,600 I'll tell you that for nothing. Yeah, that's fair enough. 218 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:47,200 I'll tell you what that Chris has made me made me realize that 219 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,000 I think playing with the right person. 220 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:53,300 You can have a really fun game of space whole and today was 221 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:55,800 like, the most memorable like this again, I'll never forget 222 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,200 like it was that good? It was like yeah, basically 15 223 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,300 minutes in. We're about to call it and say 224 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,000 mate, you know, I don't think I'm ever going to complete this 225 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Mission and he was like, yeah, I don't think you're going to Do 226 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,800 it. The mods are just call it now 227 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,700 and just you know set another date to play it again and I said 228 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:14,900 okay well let's stick through it lipstick through another turn 229 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:19,400 and see how I go and man I just yeah I miraculously pulled it 230 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,000 off. I pulled off something that I 231 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,400 never be pulled off. And it's done Chris. 232 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,400 I can see you now because I was rolling. 233 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Six as make you like, you wouldn't believe like over 234 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:33,700 again, you know, like just killing killing Steelers left. 235 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:35,700 Right and Center. Like, he got most of my guys, I 236 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:38,900 think, That's three guys left. But I completed the mission I 237 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:40,700 had to take had to take that cat. 238 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,000 It's the yeah, Remote device kind of thing trap thing. 239 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:47,600 I've got to carry it all the way from one end to the other. 240 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:53,300 And I managed to do it. So I stuck it away in divided 241 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:56,300 moment of inspiration from the emperor and yeah as I said the a 242 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:10,200 oh yeah but yeah but I talked about you a lot but yeah really 243 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,600 really good game old ever forget it and I'll say those really 244 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,100 good one. It really imprinted. 245 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:16,200 That's cool. I mean that's it like when you 246 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,700 when you get a game like it doesn't matter. 247 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:21,100 The rules is, when you get those moments where it just clicks and 248 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:23,100 everyone's having an amazing time when it's down to those, 249 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:25,700 like, clutch roles and like, oh, you know, didn't think people 250 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:27,300 are the bag? They are, they are great moat. 251 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:28,900 Like that's when gaming is at its best. 252 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Yeah, and it's just so sad that happens. 253 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,100 So rarely, but man when it happens, it's a good game, 254 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:35,800 right? Yeah, Mike that's it. 255 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,100 Yeah, I mean, I could probably have a totally horrible 256 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:41,300 experience playing blood bowl. For example, with the wrong 257 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:45,400 person, I could have terrible dreams playing way over 40K with 258 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,500 the wrong person yet. I mean, so I think with the with 259 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:51,100 good P'nay, it just it just changes the reflection of the 260 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:55,000 game completely and yeah. So that's something that I took 261 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,600 away from that experience. Anyway. 262 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,100 And now I really want the space Hulk second edition because I'm 263 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:01,500 a Paul's came to play it too. Okay. 264 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,900 So I'll have to track it down at some point. 265 00:17:05,099 --> 00:17:09,700 I'll get my hands on it, but yeah, it's good program. 266 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,099 How about you mate? Yeah. 267 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:15,700 Not too bad just we're sort of going away, elves. 268 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:21,599 I've paid 35 models and I've not even hit 1000 points here. 269 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:31,600 I got two more on the desk to Shadow and that will take me up 270 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,100 to 1000, but I've sort of cheated for the second thousand. 271 00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:37,100 Don't put tie-in in there because I'm not, I just, I need 272 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:39,700 to get through this now. So, and that's actually, I've 273 00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:42,900 actually paid quite a lot of time as well, so I'll get to 274 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:46,700 2000 lot faster, but it was just 25 stands a jet bikes man. 275 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,800 That's a lot of jet. 30 actually cuz I see the free card as well. 276 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,300 So yeah, 20 jet bikes dancing. 10 vipers is a lot of models to 277 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:54,600 paint like. That's like a Warhammer 278 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,000 regiment, right? Yeah. 279 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,200 Absolutely. Absolutely yeah, yeah. 280 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,100 Not too bad. So we're going to we're going to 281 00:18:02,108 --> 00:18:03,900 talk about time, Eden's. We're going to talk about time 282 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:06,500 legion. So we had a bit of a Yeah, well 283 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:10,000 yeah, we sort of had a bit of a hobby, talk, what we've been up 284 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,000 to, so that's been good. But I know you've been, you 285 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,700 know, doing a lot of stuff like painting wise on Facebook. 286 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,400 Assemble your post their mate. So it's good that you're still 287 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:27,100 motivated to keep your tracks. And I think, to be honest, 288 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:30,800 that's kind of what reignited me jumping into epic. 289 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,000 So this was just I think I must've been just after we move 290 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,400 down here. So about five years ago I just 291 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,700 you know I do a build with my my epic epic for years years but 292 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:47,300 like I just started painting repainting, some of the models. 293 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:52,700 I've done them all up as death goals in silver and blue, but 294 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:56,700 like I really like Mucky murky color scheme is really crap. 295 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,700 So I grabbed a couple of models and start throwing some red on 296 00:18:58,700 --> 00:19:00,500 them, as I, let's make an evil Sons actually. 297 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,100 So you had paid those two tracks, five years ago and I 298 00:19:03,108 --> 00:19:05,200 just got every time I open the case, the other three were just 299 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,200 like, why don't you paint me John? 300 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,900 So what, right? I need a break from painting 301 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:10,000 read. So what we do is instead of 302 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,300 painting red Elder, I'm gonna paint, red or Hogs and so, yeah, 303 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:15,100 smashed out the rest of the card just as little palate, cleanser 304 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:18,500 between the the end of the jet bikes and the The start of the 305 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:21,500 vehicles. So yeah, that's good and yeah, 306 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,400 nearly hit thousand points of the older. 307 00:19:24,700 --> 00:19:28,400 Can I push on and do the 3000 we shall see but getting that Leo, 308 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,800 getting at each other projects are calling out to me I'm 309 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,200 looking through my boxes. I'm looking at me oxacactus more 310 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:36,100 do some more bad moons because I need a second Clan pain it up 311 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:39,500 but I don't know like I'm very bad at sticking to the course 312 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:43,100 and getting something done so we'll see how it goes off to buy 313 00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:45,700 some yellow paint today. So maybe that I'm about to jump 314 00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:49,700 ship and jump on the bed now you're investing in paint, maybe 315 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:53,300 that's a good idea to get some bad ones painted up in there. 316 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,300 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he's got me. 317 00:19:56,300 --> 00:20:01,200 Some always said, no, no, no, that's not my jam. 318 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,500 No, I like to do my property. You know, the old school based 319 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:08,400 wash layer, layer out takes forever. 320 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,300 But I think it just gives a better finish. 321 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,700 I'm still, you know, I've dabbled with contrast. 322 00:20:12,700 --> 00:20:17,700 I've tried some things like I did use it to panel line, the, 323 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,000 the, the the Doom? Sorry, the war planners that I 324 00:20:23,008 --> 00:20:25,600 did. So, You know, I do use in places 325 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,300 but what I don't do is use it. Like it was designed to be used 326 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:29,900 by use it more. As like as you are, like a pin 327 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:33,400 wash or a panel wash because every time I've tried to do the 328 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,900 whole contrast thing, I think it's because I don't work over a 329 00:20:36,908 --> 00:20:40,300 white base coat, you know? And I've decided to your base 330 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:43,200 coat of the color and then try and use it like the initial wash 331 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,400 it kind of works, but actually I think with epic, you're better 332 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,200 off. Just precisely lining in your 333 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,000 edges for the shade and then highlighting up because it just 334 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 saves time. We'll see that. 335 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,700 We'll never use contrast myself at this, hip people swear by it 336 00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:59,700 for everything, I don't know. Yeah, but I've seen a lot of 337 00:20:59,708 --> 00:21:04,200 people do it and it does like painted definitely, you know, 338 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Prime and white him. You know, I wish I wish I could 339 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,700 be like that, you know, I wish I could be happy with that, 340 00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:12,900 because it does look great, you know, and you pick out a few 341 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,400 details, you're ready to go. It's like, you know, you read 342 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,400 the other books that I just paint Space Marines, in one 343 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,100 color, and then pick the boat was out and silver. 344 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:22,900 And I'm like, no, no, I can't do that, laughs just that's wrong. 345 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,600 So yeah, unfortunately it's my own hubris, gets in the way. 346 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,300 That means I take forever paint in tiny tiny elves when I could 347 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:33,900 be smashed them out with contrast, but we'll see. 348 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,700 Maybe when I'm sick of the Amy, I'll just do the last thousand 349 00:21:36,700 --> 00:21:39,800 points quickly and where you get them done late. 350 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,500 That's where you get them done. Like yeah, sure. 351 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,700 I take I take time with the vehicles. 352 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:46,000 I take time with the Titans I take time with all. 353 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,200 Those kind of things, the things that really matter Infantry. 354 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:55,500 Just two, three colors, maybe, what color light highlight. 355 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,700 That's it, you know, I'm not you still highlight and you can trim 356 00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:02,900 it. Look at your campus, still doing 357 00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:04,400 it, but I'm doing it very quickly. 358 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:08,800 I want to get that process finished as quickly as possible 359 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,800 because the way you're doing it might like it looks really nice. 360 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,800 But yeah, it just takes so long. I would just lose interest I'll 361 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,200 lose motivation after a while. I think I need to see you. 362 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,800 Do you do have the ability? But like know, in a kind of 363 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,100 sloppy way, just to like you have that like that Perfect 364 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:27,900 Blend of like, quality paint job with speed and I'd love to know 365 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:30,900 how you do it because you seem to like smash stuff out at 366 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:33,000 lightning speed but it looks phenomenal. 367 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:36,200 So yeah, you have to give us your secrets, one day, what is 368 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:51,300 the reason of DVD Justice? Absolutely I can't do that. 369 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,200 It's just it's his positioning like I like the sit back like 370 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,500 this and my chair. Yeah, fulfilled like that. 371 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:57,600 It's impossible. You know. 372 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,900 You need to be like the Duncan roads guy, you're going to be 373 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,300 sitting up, you know, in the ergonomic chair and Austria has 374 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,400 already braised fixed in one position. 375 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Yeah, that's the right way to do it. 376 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,200 I'm doing the wrong way. That's why I got a curved back 377 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,800 with like, bloody Hunchback of Notre Dame. 378 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,800 So don't don't do it my way. Frank would say do it like 379 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,800 Duncan roads does because that's the way to do it. 380 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,100 Yeah. To get yourself. 381 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:24,200 So your posture is good. Your back straight, I'll be 382 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,500 doing it for God. Nearly 30 years now. 383 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:31,200 So, you know, I can't change the way for us. 384 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,100 Right. Right, right. 385 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000 And I've done something. I've done some of those. 386 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000 A Song of Ice and Fire videos and I did it like that. 387 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,100 Like position might sort of hunched over table, it's not 388 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:44,000 easy to do. So I give a great a great amount 389 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,700 of credit for anybody who do really good painting tutorial 390 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:49,300 videos and there's so many not there, so many good ones out 391 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:51,400 there. I don't need to do anymore. 392 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:55,100 I humbly retire. Fair enough. 393 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:13,500 But yes, that I did some pictures on my 394 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:17,900 Discord Discord to shock people to shop and all people. 395 00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:21,800 And they were shocked and awed and also pretty good game, man. 396 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,500 Look, I've never played. This is a painted commission. 397 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:25,900 I'm doing for a guy in Japan, okay? 398 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:32,200 So it's been interesting because this is the very first time I've 399 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,900 actually well apart from painting, some of the underworld 400 00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:41,900 models, but the these are the first, you know, bracket bracket 401 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:44,600 war-cry age of supermodels and painting. 402 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,600 And it's been interesting process of. 403 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,900 I can't say that I have not enjoyed it. 404 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:54,100 I mean, they're, they're a bit weird and wonderful. 405 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:59,100 Lots of finicky details. Like especially assembly. 406 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:02,200 The assembly was like the super characters on a single sprue, 407 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,500 that's okay. But I think that taking the piss 408 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:06,300 because I reckon they're just born. 409 00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:10,300 Okay guys, we've got this side sprue and this is the model now, 410 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:13,600 you need to dissect this so that every single part fills the 411 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,000 entire screw, I think that's what they're being. 412 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:20,100 I told in the studio, right? So they're just a dissected 413 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:23,700 pieces. Well overlay and not to do this 414 00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:28,700 because obviously I have a bit of insight and knowledge. 415 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,400 So they work on our like you have X, they call them pads but 416 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,900 like call it, you know, space. So yeah, this Frame is to pass. 417 00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:37,600 This Frame is three pads on and so forth. 418 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,900 I shall gwa, sue me for giving me secret information now and so 419 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:42,800 they would know, right? We've got, you know, we've got 420 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,900 this much space to fill and the reason a minute, just a cut so 421 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:50,400 much now is so if you, you know, you think of a traditional metal 422 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,700 model Or a resin figure in a rubber mold. 423 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,700 The mold can deform when you pull them all out. 424 00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:02,000 So you do interesting posing. The probably plastic is it can't 425 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,100 Flex so it has to come out on a flat angle. 426 00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:10,100 So everything has to be drafted to between 1.5 23 degrees and 427 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:13,300 everything has to come out flat. And so what that means is if you 428 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:16,700 do low part counts, you end up with very flat miniature. 429 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,500 So You Think of, You Know, You and Me growing up in the 90s 430 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,000 with our plastic Miniatures, they're all, they're all like 431 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,600 that because they can come out the mold and if you look at the 432 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000 war cry stuff and the own a lot of, they just take my stuff and, 433 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,300 you know, some the 40K stuff. Now the posing as a lot more 434 00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:31,800 Dynamic and you Have Parts across the line. 435 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:35,100 So you've got that that layer from back everything, you know, 436 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,800 the the line of draft, everything falls away that way 437 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:40,300 and at the back Falls way that way. 438 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:42,900 And so what that means is no part can cross that line, 439 00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:45,800 because as soon as some across the line, it it it doesn't work. 440 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,000 You can't make it. So the more parts you car, the 441 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,300 more pieces, you have that can cross the line because they're 442 00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:54,800 all flat when they get cast but then when you assemble them 443 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,300 across the line. And so that's why you know, 444 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:01,900 every single arm headwear For even in some cases etcetera 445 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,500 because it means all of a sudden you could have pieces going in 446 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,900 different directions rather than just north-south. 447 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,500 But the downside is, it makes assembly quite a larger process 448 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,600 because all of a sudden you have all of those pieces where you 449 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,400 know, you and I would be used to a two-part plastic, it may be, 450 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,500 you know, like maybe the arm goes on separate. 451 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,700 You think the older the go for walks from the 4K s vision box, 452 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:23,900 you know, the the arm was separate because it allowed the 453 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:27,100 arms across the line and all the sudden he was doing that as 454 00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:30,500 opposed to that. People listening to this will 455 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:31,800 have no idea of the pose, I just pulled. 456 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,000 But I just, I just imitated a golfer or those playing along at 457 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,100 home. Yeah. 458 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:40,400 So so that you know, that's the problem is the more parts. 459 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,300 You had some more complicated guess and I think what's, you 460 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:45,300 know, what's clever? As well as you know, they as 461 00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:47,600 well as the kind of the knowledge that the team has, 462 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,200 they then obviously, they have the kind of the engineering 463 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,400 aspect as well, cause you got the sculptor and the engineer 464 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,800 who are two different teams. And then there's also, you know, 465 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,600 there's certain amount of the computer program, does some 466 00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:00,900 heavy lifting as well. And so, So they can part the 467 00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,800 frame out and, you know, program will be like, oh, you know, if 468 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,400 you do this here in this area and you know, this that the 469 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,100 other you'll get like ten percent more efficiency and it 470 00:28:08,108 --> 00:28:10,100 just allows them to fill the frames. 471 00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,300 Like it's hysterical. If you pick up, you know, what 472 00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:15,400 kind of a, when you and I were, were playing again in the kind 473 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,900 of 90's and 2000's. You look at frame from, then 474 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,700 there's so empty because that was all being done traditionally 475 00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,600 with, you know, with the human eye and the human mind. 476 00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:27,200 And so they were not really optimized. 477 00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:30,700 And now because they've got this whole extra level of, you know, 478 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,000 a knowledge from 20 years of doing and be this kind of this 479 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,300 at this technology that helps supplement their knowledge. 480 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:42,500 They can just increase the, like, the frame layout in such a 481 00:28:42,508 --> 00:28:46,000 way that you can put way, way more on, in way, way less space. 482 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,400 So, you know, think of the all the, the Falcon graph tank frame 483 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,500 is a really good example. That is a Barren frame when you 484 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:54,600 look at it compared to now where, you know, a vehicle 485 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,500 framework, both Squad frame is absolutely packed. 486 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,500 And so yeah it's really interesting but it I know what 487 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,100 you mean. Like there's that weird thing of 488 00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:07,500 I think you and I were talking earlier they like there was 489 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,900 something quite fun about your busting a blister pack. 490 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:14,400 Open grew in the models in the bases and Away you go and now 491 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,900 assembling the figure is almost like as much time as pain in the 492 00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:21,100 figure sometimes, because there's just so much going on, 493 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,700 but the single models and we're going to bring it back on the 494 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:27,500 going to back, get back on track and just a second. 495 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,800 Just to finish off with the single models are okay to put 496 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,100 together, don't mind those the multi-part kits where you got 497 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:36,600 like five to regiment. And each individual part is 498 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,400 suited for an individual model that just drove me nuts. 499 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,500 Make these bloody dinosaur. Looking Cavalry, things are 500 00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:46,700 writing those things put together with this enlightening. 501 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,700 So yeah, I'll be very happy when it's done and dusted and left 502 00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:52,300 behind it. Back to the guy and say thank 503 00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:56,400 you very much ever. Again, I I don't take missions 504 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,700 anymore because they Just get in the way of you penny for 505 00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:00,500 yourself. Like, there was a time when I 506 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:04,200 did it for various reasons, it was kind of how I generate my 507 00:30:04,208 --> 00:30:07,500 hobby money whatever. But you end up realizing, you 508 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:11,000 know, I painted for like three or four years and I had nothing 509 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000 to show for it because I know because why would I ever pay for 510 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,900 myself when there's a commission on the desk? 511 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,700 So it's one of the things like unless there is a, you know, a 512 00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:22,700 pertinent Financial reason for you to paint commission, do man, 513 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,300 like it's just not, it's never worth your time and you will 514 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:28,600 become your will come too. Isn't it? 515 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,700 So yeah like anyone the pains commission I you know, obviously 516 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,400 I work with various paintings around the world. 517 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,800 I take my hat off to them because I've been there, I've 518 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,900 done it. The money's not spectacular and 519 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:42,600 it just kills your hobby. So yeah, well I found a good 520 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,700 balance mate like I do I have today, I finished off Three Men 521 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:48,800 of War Noble ships in the cows Wizard Tower. 522 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,500 So I did that, I'm sort of doing stuff of my own Plus in a his 523 00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,400 staff. I've got to do that other to 524 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,500 keep my keep my sanity. Otherwise I'll Go insane and 525 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:00,500 obviously I'm doing it for financial financial reasons. 526 00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,300 I've got bills to pay and I need your extra money through the 527 00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:07,200 year to cover those and I want to travel to Australia and I 528 00:31:07,208 --> 00:31:10,400 wouldn't pay for that. So all that committee painting 529 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,100 commission does come in handy plus when they when they come 530 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,500 up, I really can't say no, you know what I mean? 531 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,000 Like, I'll put down the price and say, okay, I'll paint it for 532 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,900 this much and if he says yeah then I'll go sir. 533 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:25,600 Okay, I will grab it with two hands and just take it and okay 534 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,200 you know it's painting. I mean it's not Working down in 535 00:31:28,208 --> 00:31:34,300 some wine, or something like that, you know, things but doing 536 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:39,900 something good for myself, doing some sort of time sharing that 537 00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:41,800 way. But, but hey, you know, it's an 538 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,900 experience, I'm taking as an experience and that way. 539 00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:48,100 I'm now, it's good. I can say, yes, I put together 540 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:50,200 my models. Yes, I painted them. 541 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Yes. Here's some photographs, you 542 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,100 need some samples for the future. 543 00:31:55,100 --> 00:32:00,600 And outside of your comfort zone or two to paint stuff that you 544 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,400 never would have, otherwise painted. 545 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,900 That's quite fun. Like, you know, I got to paint 546 00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:06,800 all sorts of crazy models. Like, you know, I was painting 547 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,900 bunch of infinity stuff and I wasn't really ever going to play 548 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:10,300 Infinity that much things like that. 549 00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:12,900 So, you know, there are advantages, but I just think 550 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,100 there's not enough, you know, there's only so many models I'm 551 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:17,400 going to paint before I die. And the more of them that are 552 00:32:17,408 --> 00:32:21,500 not mine, the bigger, my part of lead gets is this a different 553 00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:24,200 thing called things John yeah. Sorry I sort of bring it down on 554 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,500 the side. Before I die. 555 00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:40,500 Hello everybody. Its GJ, I am home again. 556 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:47,500 After a very nice long day of playing Warhammer watching some 557 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:51,200 games. Basically, I'm just reporting to 558 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,200 you from the Dutch old Hammer corn about the Dutch old hammock 559 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,200 or I should say although I have also been reporting from the 560 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,800 Dutch old Hammer con. I have been doing some 561 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,400 interviews with people playing some games and That has created 562 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,800 this segment. Joshua asked me if I could 563 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:16,100 interview, some people give you some Impressions from the Dutch 564 00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:17,200 old Hammer. Calm. 565 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,900 This was the first time this event was organised was 566 00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:24,100 organized by scheuer to. If you're a fan of the podcast, 567 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:27,300 you have already met. He has been on Joshua 568 00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:31,800 interviewed him a couple of weeks ago maybe few months ago 569 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:39,200 and today was the first time time that he organized a day. 570 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,800 We had 39 people joining us despite some people having to 571 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,900 cancel last minute because of work or because of sickness 572 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:56,500 health reasons. So all in all I must say, my 573 00:33:56,500 --> 00:34:04,100 Impressions have of this day have been quite overwhelming. 574 00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:09,800 It's Nice to see. So many people still caring 575 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,600 about these old games being in general that. 576 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,699 I was a very nice open atmosphere. 577 00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:23,000 People were happy to talk about the things that they moved 578 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,400 around a game. Looking at the tables sometimes 579 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,800 ask questions, some of them sat down for a little bit longer, 580 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,699 watching some games being played entirely, some people even 581 00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:36,199 participating in game. Eames. 582 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:42,699 So all in all it was a great success and that's not just me 583 00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:48,500 saying that I also interviewed shirt and he has confirmed this 584 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,699 that in his eyes. It was a success as well. 585 00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:57,100 Now I do apologize in advance for the Audio. 586 00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:01,900 I have a microphone that I use for podcasting, which is fine if 587 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,800 it's steady on the table, and if I don't move around too much, 588 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:10,300 But the audio sensitivity changes a bit. 589 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:16,000 So I have tried with my limited podcast editing skills to to 590 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,400 normalize the sound as best as I could. 591 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:24,300 But there are still sometimes that the sound of my voice is a 592 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:29,400 little bit too loud because I keep the mic closer to my mouth 593 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,600 then to that of the of the person I am interviewing. 594 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,900 So I do hope this does not Not distract you too much. 595 00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:42,800 Or damping your enjoyment. Let's go take a look around. 596 00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:50,300 The Dutch old Hammer. Calm I'm going to walk around 597 00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:53,600 for a bit, see who I can talk to. 598 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,900 We have here. A Warhammer quest game going on. 599 00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,500 We have a Warhammer fantasy. Third Edition game going on 600 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:04,700 gentlemen. Why from what are you playing? 601 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:11,200 Who's winning who's losing? My name is Jakob every war game 602 00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:15,600 since since the early 80s since the second edition we'll have 603 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,000 also Old old veteran playing with Arthur, we are playing in 604 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000 our Warhammer Quest and we're both winning because we're 605 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,200 playing against the system. So excellent. 606 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:32,000 And how about you after I've been a war game or since the 607 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,200 early 90s I think. And I discovered the Warhammer 608 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,300 in 1995. So yeah. 609 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:45,100 Been in the hole before quite a bit and yeah like you upset 610 00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,300 we're both winning. Awesome. 611 00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:48,600 You seem to be enjoying yourselves. 612 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,000 You have a very nice warm. A quest set here. 613 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,100 I see not all the Miniatures are painted yet, you guys are still 614 00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:03,800 actively playing or is it just for for this day that you dusted 615 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,800 off the set? And then came here? 616 00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:11,500 No, I'm still, it's after game after game, but yes, it's a 617 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:12,900 comment, you're constantly painting. 618 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:17,800 You're constantly expanding your set and On a weekly basis. 619 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,100 We are still gaining. So yeah. 620 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,400 Yeah, not a big group occurs from the other side of the 621 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,500 country. So I meet them only at 622 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:32,300 conventions and so forth. But I have a small gaming group 623 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:36,900 in the south of Holland. And every Wednesday night, the 624 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:42,600 dice are being rolled awesome. And how did you hear about this 625 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,800 day? How did you get here? 626 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,100 Well, well, it's all it's all shorts fault. 627 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:52,300 He initiated this. And since we're both fan of 628 00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:57,100 older style Warhammer games. Yeah, I sort of volunteer to 629 00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:01,500 help him out and now we're here. Thank you very much, gentlemen. 630 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,200 Enjoy your game. Let's see. 631 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,900 Here, are some nice pictures being taken off a third edition 632 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,000 Warhammer battle. I see a lot of Undead and I see 633 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,400 some chaos and happy. That's a lot of India and not a 634 00:38:17,408 --> 00:38:20,200 lot of chaos. Well, there's also due to the 635 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,200 point of course, but you appear to be on the losing side, then 636 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,800 notnot yet. We'll see very quickly. 637 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,200 This is basically sort of end game of running campaign if we 638 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,200 playing for I think, launched two or three years. 639 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,100 Ready. With chaos first unit and there 640 00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:40,400 was a big escalation every time in what we were putting into the 641 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,500 battles. And this is the big day where 642 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,900 the the magic user from both sides. 643 00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,900 Try to get control to either sermon a demonic portal or cost 644 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,900 wind of death on the entire area and claim all the all the bodies 645 00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:56,900 for their own and neither has happened yet. 646 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,800 No it only happens with three objectives as soon as one player 647 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,300 has all three of them, at the end of the other players turn, 648 00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:06,400 it's now the medic win. Because then he has all the 649 00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:08,600 magical PowerPoints or otherwise. 650 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,300 It will be who has the most of these at the end of the game. 651 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,000 So there's no snow nothing. Helping you in your scaling 652 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,700 everything. Well, you win, of course because 653 00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:20,700 you have everything done, but the goal is just the PowerPoint. 654 00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:24,100 Awesome. And you've been playing this for 655 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:25,600 for two years. Just two of you. 656 00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:28,000 I'm coming over to the other side of the table for a bit. 657 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,100 You know, each other, you both live near each other. 658 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,700 We live about an hour drive away, but we know each other for 659 00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:38,100 a long time for over 20 years. So we have been playing this for 660 00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:43,500 really for for quite a while. Always want to start with warmer 661 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:48,100 Third Edition, and we finally made it happen, sometime ago, 662 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:54,200 it's a complex complex addition. And we we met we had to use some 663 00:39:54,200 --> 00:40:00,200 house rules and make some minor changes but overall it's a very 664 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:06,200 enjoyable game and why third edition specifically it's a most 665 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:12,100 elaborate I think not not in volume but most elaborate in the 666 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:16,700 number of options and rules and so it's very speaks a lot to the 667 00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:21,400 imagination, I think and also I really liked the artwork and the 668 00:40:21,408 --> 00:40:25,500 models from . Very good reasons, all of them. 669 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,900 Thank you very much, gentlemen. Enjoy your game. 670 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,400 Hello, meal long time. No, see, how are you doing? 671 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,700 Well, I'm playing my second game today with my newly painted, 672 00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:41,300 several charts. How's it going so far so good? 673 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,600 Dwarves, blew blew up for the account for turn one. 674 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,200 So I'm going to keep reminding it to him because he likes that 675 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,200 and the first game, I had a small loss with only one Victory 676 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,600 point. So that was close with some 677 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,700 frenzy Warlords. Killing a, lots, and lots of 678 00:40:56,700 --> 00:41:01,400 Shaving. Very nice and let's go over to 679 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,900 the dwarf side. Oscar, first time playing 680 00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:07,100 dwarves in a long time, very long time, but 25 years and 681 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:11,800 starting very well, not the storm I can on the first turn. 682 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:18,100 So yeah, let's see what happens. Well, we have you under table, 683 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:22,800 we have some, some Miniatures that people brought that are 684 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,600 basically whatever you want to pay for them. 685 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,300 You can pay. You can bid we have several 686 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:34,500 boxes with free Miniatures, free B people can just take whatever 687 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:39,900 they want, but at this set here, well, please do keep it polite, 688 00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:42,300 leave some stuff for all the others. 689 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,500 We also have here, a nice table with a lot of bits. 690 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,500 And we have someone looking through them. 691 00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:51,800 Hello, can I bother you for a few questions? 692 00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,300 What's your name? Yama Yama. 693 00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:57,300 Hi. Welcome to the ultimate con. 694 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,100 Thank you. What are you looking for? 695 00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:03,900 Yeah, just generally looking mostly at the games. 696 00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:08,500 I haven't played for a while so I want to get into it as well. 697 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,600 But yeah, just meeting people meeting lobbyists. 698 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,800 I've started like three years ago, after a break of for 15 699 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,000 years. So, So yeah, just getting into 700 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,800 it again, with a friend and which games do you play? 701 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,600 Where are my fantasy? Yeah. 702 00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:26,900 All right, now you're looking for Fantasy B to expand your 703 00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:28,400 armies. Yes yes, yes. 704 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,300 A friend of mine place a lizard man, so I took some lizard. 705 00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:36,400 Ben B for him as well. And I found a phonetic ball 706 00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,100 which I was looking for, so that's great. 707 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:41,800 Yeah, I can go and play yourself. 708 00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,900 Yeah, yeah. I play a six armies Orcs and 709 00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:48,600 goblins chaos. The Demons of chaos beastmen, 710 00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:52,300 Dark Elves and High Elves. So, yeah, it's getting out of 711 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:54,600 hand again. What is nice? 712 00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:01,200 Mix. Let's go see what else is going 713 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,900 on here. We have a very large nicely 714 00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:08,400 built, Nick Rimando table. What's your name playing? 715 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,100 Necro, Munda. How did you get here? 716 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:17,700 Oh, my name is Patrick, I'm a longtime collector for older 717 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:20,800 Games Workshop games, like neck removed languor, Kimura and 718 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,200 stuff like that. And we got an invite to host and 719 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,400 From under table here. And this is all your own stuff. 720 00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:31,200 Yes. Mine and Ian Williams. 721 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,400 Right looks beautiful. And well I don't know anything 722 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,800 about no comuna myself and I'm sure some of the listeners do 723 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,300 and some don't. But how is it going? 724 00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:46,000 I know and it's gang Warfare and you have three players I see 725 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,900 three different gangs. Yeah now we have chosen to take 726 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:56,000 three players, three gangs just a regular shootout usually you 727 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,500 try to play scenarios which makes the game a lot better but 728 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:04,700 for a demo Oh like this, we usually do just some shootout. 729 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:13,300 Yeah, it's a sort of a small gang fighting game which uses 730 00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:19,200 height and cover a lot. It's basically is a small 731 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:25,400 version of the 40K. We have also here a battlefleet 732 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,500 Gothic table which is not being played at the moment. 733 00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:32,400 Although there's someone browsing through the book. 734 00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:34,000 Hello, can I ask you a few questions? 735 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,500 Well, what's your name? How did you get here? 736 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,800 And what is your connection to battlefleet Gothic? 737 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,100 My name is Nils. I come from Belgium, I got you 738 00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:49,300 by car, but we are club from Belgium. 739 00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:52,400 We used to play. That'll freak, go take back in 740 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,400 the day. And when we saw the advert for 741 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,300 an Dutch old-timer, calm. We were like, let's go there and 742 00:44:58,300 --> 00:45:02,100 let's bring battle Fleet feel good thing because probably it's 743 00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:04,200 one of the least things represented here. 744 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,600 Because you see is the only table that's here. 745 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,300 So, that's a, that's how I why we came here to show of 746 00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:13,000 battlefleet Gothic. This is my, don't think it's 747 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,100 very much known to a lot of people. 748 00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:18,400 So how long did it take you to get here? 749 00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:20,800 We drove for about two and a half. 750 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,400 Hours. That's dedication. 751 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,400 Mate. Yeah. 752 00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:29,800 And have you played already or because I see only you here to 753 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,600 table at the moment. Yeah, my opponent is just 754 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,100 grabbing a drink, and a phony. So I think. 755 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,100 Yeah, we are in the middle of turn, three, I think. 756 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,700 And yeah, it's a, the black Templars the Empire which is 757 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:49,700 played by me against chaos, the iron Warriors and it's not going 758 00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:55,700 good for the black tank flush. So far Gil sees is a is a doing 759 00:45:55,700 --> 00:46:00,500 his best slaughtering slaughtering the Empire which 760 00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:05,300 sucks. But hey, here we are as long as 761 00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:07,700 you're having fun right scales rocks. 762 00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:14,100 Yeah, they have it folks. Well gentlemen, enjoy your game. 763 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,000 Good afternoon. What are you playing playing 764 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,200 Rogue Trader. Rogue Trader. 765 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,000 Awesome. First edition 40K. 766 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,100 Well, actually, no addition for the gauges Rogue Trader for it. 767 00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:32,700 Okay. Well, I'm not a 40K player, but 768 00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:35,000 I know that after Oak trailer came second edition. 769 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,200 So to me, it sounds like first, what was being played here? 770 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,500 We're playing extermination scenario in which the necrons 771 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,400 are just swarming over the field and their degree. 772 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,900 In the forces that there are and their objective is to run across 773 00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:56,200 the field as quickly as possible. 774 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,200 Eliminating everything in their progress, my victory condition 775 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,500 is mainly that I have to take out more of his than I'm worth. 776 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,200 And in which case, I stole the attack for long, long enough to 777 00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:12,200 be able to claim a victory. Also my hip pain, either way, 778 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,900 either way most of my guys are gonna die. 779 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,700 Yeah, I lost an scenario, right? So and I take it, you're playing 780 00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:21,900 Imperial Guard Then we're playing Imperial forces because 781 00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:25,000 there's a guard, there's half a company of space means to 782 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,400 devastate our squads three, tacticals some command scattered 783 00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:31,600 around. And there is a tiny little group 784 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,900 hidden of inquisitorial us with their assassins that are, if you 785 00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:41,000 can spot them to there, and three over there, and that's 786 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,900 basically what I have. And how many points is this? 787 00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:50,000 Because you have a rather large table, it's let me think you're 788 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,800 real quick. 160 cm by 2, m 40. I think something like that. 789 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,600 We just put the thing together that with the tables that we 790 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,400 were allotted. I'm not even sure how many 791 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,800 points had. I had two days to write a 792 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,500 scenario for this and then my friend had to go to hospital and 793 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:11,500 I was taking care of his cat and walking into his house. 794 00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:13,800 I realized I had to spend those two days. 795 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,600 The next two weeks, getting his house back in order. 796 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,800 So the scenario became and against the odds thing so that 797 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,200 he can play with everything that he's that he's got. 798 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,500 And when a unit gets destroyed, he can cycle it back. 799 00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:33,400 So that's how he gets enough power to walk over the board. 800 00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:40,300 I'm heading out to the organizer of the first Dutch old hammered 801 00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:45,800 a shirt should very busy looking at some of the nice Miniatures 802 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,400 on display here that he may or may not take home. 803 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,800 Should how do you look back on this day? 804 00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:55,300 It was a very successful day. What made it successful? 805 00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:58,800 Well, nice atmosphere. Lots of people coming. 806 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,000 I really enjoyed myself. And so most of us did of offers 807 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,400 that, hey, I saw you also So participate in some games 808 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,400 Necromancer, I believe, yes, Nick Rimando. 809 00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:14,000 First time I was it. I'm not system, I need to buy a 810 00:49:14,008 --> 00:49:22,300 new game and I think we have a, some breaking news here. 811 00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:26,300 I heard you say that this was the first Dutch Alzheimer day, 812 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,300 but there will be, there will be a next one. 813 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:33,400 Next year, even bigger, even better probably bigger as there 814 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,600 was a lot of enthusiasm from some other organized. 815 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,600 From events that not only with us. 816 00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:43,600 So there might be a large upgrades and how did you 817 00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:47,500 experience the whole process of organizing this day? 818 00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:50,200 What I need things that you would do differently next time. 819 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,100 I'm not sure yet. We have to see, we do some, 820 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,000 well, look, back on the day and see what happens, a lot of info 821 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,200 from people around and till now. Well, I think everything went. 822 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,200 Well, we did our best and it instance, it was as a gaming 823 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,100 day, it turned out a bit bigger. So yeah. 824 00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:12,800 Yeah. Well I have heard no negative 825 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,000 feedback from anyone here. Everybody has I think has 826 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,500 enjoyed themselves immensely. We are nearing the end of the 827 00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:24,300 day, 15, more minutes or so I believe. 828 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,800 All right, so that means that I have to see if I can finish up 829 00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:36,000 the campaign and back up again. Sure. 830 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,500 Thank you very much for organizing this day. 831 00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:42,900 I had a blast and I hope that next year, we will get some some 832 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:45,100 more of the podcast listeners here as well. 833 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:53,000 So as soon as we know a date, we will mention it and then you can 834 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,800 start booking your trips to the Netherlands. 835 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,600 How does that sound? Sounds like a marvelous idea 836 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,600 just come over and join join. Join the fun. 837 00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:03,500 All right. Thank you very much, shoot.