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hobby chat, that sort of extended our regular.
Time in the interview. So I sort of cut that and pulled
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October entries and how that's going and also about the old
Hammer Dutch event that was held in 2022.
Just recently actually And DJ bring some interviews with that
as well. So hopefully you will enjoy the
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So until then guys enjoyed this episode and we look forward to
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Okay. Bye-bye.
Hello, everybody. It's GJ with an update for the
call of the crown painting challenge.
The October entries are in and although we do still have some
stragglers that are quickly catching up at the time of
recording, I can say that October has been a major
success. We have in total over 21,000
points that have been Ended up across well, almost 80 different
people. There have been some who have
either not yet submitted anything or who have had to use
that. First Mulligan, I'm going to
count them real quick. There's two, four five, five
people so far that have used their Mulligan and sadly, we
have already had to say goodbye to one of Of our contestants
Dave Galloway. He said that he was just too
busy with all the things going on in real life that even a
single Mulligan would not save him a said that he hopes to join
in next time. Dave made we wish you all the
best with the situation that you are in now.
In a little bit happier news, like I said, over 21,000 points
painted, and over a quarter of this, is just due to three
people. Several people have submitted
large amounts of points. We have, for example, Grim, dark
roast, who is submitted a 669 points of dwarfs we have Yep.
And Danny who submitted five hundred and sixty points of dark
elves. There's also a flogger who
submitted a single vampire, lord, flat front car Stein,
which costs you six hundred and eighty points, which is a great
way to rake up those points. But these are not the people
that I want to shout out the people, I do want to shout out
are those that have painted almost or upwards of 1,000
points. And these are urine hunt ler,
who is doing a Wood Elf Army urine has painted, let's see.
Where is he? 934 points of wood elves.
This does include a lot on a dragon which quickly reacts to
the points, but he still has a very nice starter Army that.
He is presented to us and I think that by the time you
listen to this recording I will have everything up on my blog at
the moment. I don't have that yet that's
just because I'm waiting for these final few stragglers to
comment. Some people have been delayed a
little bit. I'm not going to be too strict
on that lines but please don't take that as a leeway to slack
off. Let's see here.
Urine has Is Rudolph Force? Like I said, a lot of force
Dragon, he has scored a falconer, which he also
submitted for the war games, Orchards paint challenge for
October and he has a unit of a Glade guard with bows and a
command group. This is still a small force
compared to what the other two have submitted.
We have. Let's see.
Where is he in? My list, I'm trying to keep
track of everything in both an Excel file.
And I've got a Word document in which I collect all the entries
before I put them up on the website, we have Frozen orc who
is painting up tomb Kings and he submitted and an army of 1949
points. Not including magic items.
Sadly, it is not a legal Army because it's six addition you
need a tomb King to lead the I believe an eighth edition as
well to making or to Prints, but it's still a very impressive law
that he got here. He has to Bone Giants, he has to
tomb scorpions. He's got a casket of Souls 2
units of Cavalry that he managed to squeeze in last minute.
A couple of Lich priest, a screaming skull catapult and a
unit of skeleton archers for almost 2,000 points.
Very Well done. But he does not take top
position this month that goes to and I hope I pronounced your
name correctly, it's either I think's TN or tying, I'm
probably not Stein. It doesn't sound like an English
name as then I'm going with Stephen, please correct me if
I'm doing this wrong, he's painting skaven which is saying
something and that is upwards of twenty-five hundred points that
he said, It he doesn't know the exact points value because the
list he is using, is from a scenario that is.
I believe in the skaven Army book, but I'm not quite sure
about that. He has painted up a doom wheel,
and I'm going to call everything out.
I don't think I even recognize everything on this picture, just
because I have not painted. It's cave and myself, but he has
a doom, really, a storm Vermin. I see Clan rats in there.
Some rats, warms a lot of gutter Runners and assassin.
See has, let's check here if I am missing anything.
Well, you can also read it for yourself.
He wrote up a nice bit of text there.
So for all of the entries combined, Over 21,000 points.
I think that is a very, very good start to the challenge.
And I know that a lot of people start off with this challenge,
full of fervor. And then, towards the end to see
people not finding enough time having to drop out, maybe point
a painting less points, and some people are just at or just Just
around the bare, minimum for what they need to paint and they
will make up for it, hopefully, in later months, but let's see
if we can keep this up. Let's see if we can paint at
least twenty one thousand points in November.
Thank you very much. Everybody for listening.
Do check out all the pretty pictures all the awesome paint
jobs on my blog on GJ's. Shop dot wordpress.com.
I'm pretty sure there will also be a link in the show notes in
the description. You can find all the info over
there. They October challengepost will
be right at the top of the page. It might take a little bit of
time to load because of all the pictures that you will depend on
your own computer and internet connection.
Thank you all very much for listening and to all the
contestants, thanks for Submitting such awesome photos
of your paint jobs and all the best of luck for this uncoming
month. Do you make of space, dog?
When I, when I play the Third Edition because my first set
right play Space hold the game, I wasn't overly.
Well, find the Marines is quite good.
I hated playing the Steelers. Okay.
I really just did not enjoy that experience of playing the
Steelers ago and it was quite boring, but the game was quite
good. I think it.
I think what sport it was, but we played a game mean a friend
of mine. At that time, we got to a point
in the certain moment of the game.
I think I was playing the Steelers, and I really wanted to
win and I think obviously, you know, he wanted to win as well,
and it came to like a rules. Crutch like something happened
is where it was like, very ambiguous and I had
interpretation habit interpretation.
And we've got quite heated about it, right?
Yeah. And there's moments of the night
is ambiguous rule set that then. Yeah, craze that, that friction
of the game done tonight. Because it's sort of sport.
My whole kind of memory space Hulk because it gets so intense.
It was such an intense game. It's not like Wonder you got to
laugh and have a fun have fun with.
It's not like, but like playing blood Bowl, it's like a really,
really intensive. You know, I have to think a lot
about what you are, you going to forward, think about so many
different moves and think that My problem with it is it's more
like a kind of a puzzle the game if that makes sense like useful
self a plan to finish the puzzle and then you kind of execute the
plan and if you got it right, it works.
If you got it wrong, you fail and there's not as much of that
kind of, you know, what I love in a war game is when you hit
like a moment of like, oh God, my plans once South and have to
quickly think of a solution and like pivot to a new strategy and
I just found with blood boil. You can't upload Bowie's, space
Hulk. You can't do that because you
don't have enough kind of resources and also its You know,
because it's all in tunnels which is very close.
Very a very key is very aliens, very cool.
But like you are in a tunnel with one way in and one way out,
and no maneuverability. So you can't be like, oh, you
know what? I'm going to refer you.
Ignore that flank and go down the other flank, or I'm going to
send these guys on a Mad Dash 0 because you're like, well, I'm
in the tunnel. I've just got slog my way out
again. And yeah, I don't know, man.
Like, it's, I got the, the blood angels version and again, like
didn't even build it. I don't think it just sat there
for years. And a couple of years ago, I was
probably more than a couple years ago now, and I think about
it like me and Sam played it, and I was just like this is
space Hulk. Like this is what everyone's
excited about like he just feels so like, like predictable, if
that makes sense like yes, of the Marines are going to go in a
line and the flamer will be at the back and the guy at the
front will be on OverWatch and each time you get to a section
one will peel off and start and it's just like, you just the
jeans to your player is just waiting for them to fail and
OverWatch role and jam their gun and then they've won, you know,
and I was like, that's not Testing to me that's to like
Saban Jamie, you know, very gamey game again, you know?
Yeah. Yes.
I was surprised because obviously it's you know like
when that box you were playing came out.
It was a kid in the noise also. Oh my God, I need this game,
like an interesting that you know, so talked about it before.
My first experience of seeing people play games, virtual game
was some guys playing. I think it was technically
Advanced base Crusades, but it's hard to know because I think
they'd sort of maybe could have even been 40K, but they were
playing it on a space Hulk board.
As my first ever live in a visual representation of 40K
was, was Orcs versus Space Marines playing on a space hog
board and I was like, that looks incredible.
You know, running through the tunnels and you know, I don't
think I've even seen alien at that point.
I was a kid but like yeah, visually it's brilliant.
Like the the concept is brilliant.
I just find the execution is not to my taste, shall we say?
But I know it's got fans. I'm you know I mean I'm the guy
that hates Blood Bowl so I'm the bad guy, I get it but it's
rendered service row. Both those games in the
dangerous actually. Originally sure, yeah, yeah,
yeah. If you want
but I appreciate minority live. So many people doing so many
amazing teams. Huge tournaments like so people
love, you know, but it is not a game for me.
I'll tell you that for nothing. Yeah, that's fair enough.
I'll tell you what that Chris has made me made me realize that
I think playing with the right person.
You can have a really fun game of space whole and today was
like, the most memorable like this again, I'll never forget
like it was that good? It was like yeah, basically 15
minutes in. We're about to call it and say
mate, you know, I don't think I'm ever going to complete this
Mission and he was like, yeah, I don't think you're going to Do
it. The mods are just call it now
and just you know set another date to play it again and I said
okay well let's stick through it lipstick through another turn
and see how I go and man I just yeah I miraculously pulled it
off. I pulled off something that I
never be pulled off. And it's done Chris.
I can see you now because I was rolling.
Six as make you like, you wouldn't believe like over
again, you know, like just killing killing Steelers left.
Right and Center. Like, he got most of my guys, I
think, That's three guys left. But I completed the mission I
had to take had to take that cat.
It's the yeah, Remote device kind of thing trap thing.
I've got to carry it all the way from one end to the other.
And I managed to do it. So I stuck it away in divided
moment of inspiration from the emperor and yeah as I said the a
oh yeah but yeah but I talked about you a lot but yeah really
really good game old ever forget it and I'll say those really
good one. It really imprinted.
That's cool. I mean that's it like when you
when you get a game like it doesn't matter.
The rules is, when you get those moments where it just clicks and
everyone's having an amazing time when it's down to those,
like, clutch roles and like, oh, you know, didn't think people
are the bag? They are, they are great moat.
Like that's when gaming is at its best.
Yeah, and it's just so sad that happens.
So rarely, but man when it happens, it's a good game,
right? Yeah, Mike that's it.
Yeah, I mean, I could probably have a totally horrible
experience playing blood bowl. For example, with the wrong
person, I could have terrible dreams playing way over 40K with
the wrong person yet. I mean, so I think with the with
good P'nay, it just it just changes the reflection of the
game completely and yeah. So that's something that I took
away from that experience. Anyway.
And now I really want the space Hulk second edition because I'm
a Paul's came to play it too. Okay.
So I'll have to track it down at some point.
I'll get my hands on it, but yeah, it's good program.
How about you mate? Yeah.
Not too bad just we're sort of going away, elves.
I've paid 35 models and I've not even hit 1000 points here.
I got two more on the desk to Shadow and that will take me up
to 1000, but I've sort of cheated for the second thousand.
Don't put tie-in in there because I'm not, I just, I need
to get through this now. So, and that's actually, I've
actually paid quite a lot of time as well, so I'll get to
2000 lot faster, but it was just 25 stands a jet bikes man.
That's a lot of jet. 30 actually cuz I see the free card as well.
So yeah, 20 jet bikes dancing. 10 vipers is a lot of models to
paint like. That's like a Warhammer
regiment, right? Yeah.
Absolutely. Absolutely yeah, yeah.
Not too bad. So we're going to we're going to
talk about time, Eden's. We're going to talk about time
legion. So we had a bit of a Yeah, well
yeah, we sort of had a bit of a hobby, talk, what we've been up
to, so that's been good. But I know you've been, you
know, doing a lot of stuff like painting wise on Facebook.
Assemble your post their mate. So it's good that you're still
motivated to keep your tracks. And I think, to be honest,
that's kind of what reignited me jumping into epic.
So this was just I think I must've been just after we move
down here. So about five years ago I just
you know I do a build with my my epic epic for years years but
like I just started painting repainting, some of the models.
I've done them all up as death goals in silver and blue, but
like I really like Mucky murky color scheme is really crap.
So I grabbed a couple of models and start throwing some red on
them, as I, let's make an evil Sons actually.
So you had paid those two tracks, five years ago and I
just got every time I open the case, the other three were just
like, why don't you paint me John?
So what, right? I need a break from painting
read. So what we do is instead of
painting red Elder, I'm gonna paint, red or Hogs and so, yeah,
smashed out the rest of the card just as little palate, cleanser
between the the end of the jet bikes and the The start of the
vehicles. So yeah, that's good and yeah,
nearly hit thousand points of the older.
Can I push on and do the 3000 we shall see but getting that Leo,
getting at each other projects are calling out to me I'm
looking through my boxes. I'm looking at me oxacactus more
do some more bad moons because I need a second Clan pain it up
but I don't know like I'm very bad at sticking to the course
and getting something done so we'll see how it goes off to buy
some yellow paint today. So maybe that I'm about to jump
ship and jump on the bed now you're investing in paint, maybe
that's a good idea to get some bad ones painted up in there.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he's got me.
Some always said, no, no, no, that's not my jam.
No, I like to do my property. You know, the old school based
wash layer, layer out takes forever.
But I think it just gives a better finish.
I'm still, you know, I've dabbled with contrast.
I've tried some things like I did use it to panel line, the,
the, the the Doom? Sorry, the war planners that I
did. So, You know, I do use in places
but what I don't do is use it. Like it was designed to be used
by use it more. As like as you are, like a pin
wash or a panel wash because every time I've tried to do the
whole contrast thing, I think it's because I don't work over a
white base coat, you know? And I've decided to your base
coat of the color and then try and use it like the initial wash
it kind of works, but actually I think with epic, you're better
off. Just precisely lining in your
edges for the shade and then highlighting up because it just
saves time. We'll see that.
We'll never use contrast myself at this, hip people swear by it
for everything, I don't know. Yeah, but I've seen a lot of
people do it and it does like painted definitely, you know,
Prime and white him. You know, I wish I wish I could
be like that, you know, I wish I could be happy with that,
because it does look great, you know, and you pick out a few
details, you're ready to go. It's like, you know, you read
the other books that I just paint Space Marines, in one
color, and then pick the boat was out and silver.
And I'm like, no, no, I can't do that, laughs just that's wrong.
So yeah, unfortunately it's my own hubris, gets in the way.
That means I take forever paint in tiny tiny elves when I could
be smashed them out with contrast, but we'll see.
Maybe when I'm sick of the Amy, I'll just do the last thousand
points quickly and where you get them done late.
That's where you get them done. Like yeah, sure.
I take I take time with the vehicles.
I take time with the Titans I take time with all.
Those kind of things, the things that really matter Infantry.
Just two, three colors, maybe, what color light highlight.
That's it, you know, I'm not you still highlight and you can trim
it. Look at your campus, still doing
it, but I'm doing it very quickly.
I want to get that process finished as quickly as possible
because the way you're doing it might like it looks really nice.
But yeah, it just takes so long. I would just lose interest I'll
lose motivation after a while. I think I need to see you.
Do you do have the ability? But like know, in a kind of
sloppy way, just to like you have that like that Perfect
Blend of like, quality paint job with speed and I'd love to know
how you do it because you seem to like smash stuff out at
lightning speed but it looks phenomenal.
So yeah, you have to give us your secrets, one day, what is
the reason of DVD Justice? Absolutely I can't do that.
It's just it's his positioning like I like the sit back like
this and my chair. Yeah, fulfilled like that.
It's impossible. You know.
You need to be like the Duncan roads guy, you're going to be
sitting up, you know, in the ergonomic chair and Austria has
already braised fixed in one position.
Yeah, that's the right way to do it.
I'm doing the wrong way. That's why I got a curved back
with like, bloody Hunchback of Notre Dame.
So don't don't do it my way. Frank would say do it like
Duncan roads does because that's the way to do it.
Yeah. To get yourself.
So your posture is good. Your back straight, I'll be
doing it for God. Nearly 30 years now.
So, you know, I can't change the way for us.
Right. Right, right.
And I've done something. I've done some of those.
A Song of Ice and Fire videos and I did it like that.
Like position might sort of hunched over table, it's not
easy to do. So I give a great a great amount
of credit for anybody who do really good painting tutorial
videos and there's so many not there, so many good ones out
there. I don't need to do anymore.
I humbly retire. Fair enough.
But yes, that I did some pictures on my
Discord Discord to shock people to shop and all people.
And they were shocked and awed and also pretty good game, man.
Look, I've never played. This is a painted commission.
I'm doing for a guy in Japan, okay?
So it's been interesting because this is the very first time I've
actually well apart from painting, some of the underworld
models, but the these are the first, you know, bracket bracket
war-cry age of supermodels and painting.
And it's been interesting process of.
I can't say that I have not enjoyed it.
I mean, they're, they're a bit weird and wonderful.
Lots of finicky details. Like especially assembly.
The assembly was like the super characters on a single sprue,
that's okay. But I think that taking the piss
because I reckon they're just born.
Okay guys, we've got this side sprue and this is the model now,
you need to dissect this so that every single part fills the
entire screw, I think that's what they're being.
I told in the studio, right? So they're just a dissected
pieces. Well overlay and not to do this
because obviously I have a bit of insight and knowledge.
So they work on our like you have X, they call them pads but
like call it, you know, space. So yeah, this Frame is to pass.
This Frame is three pads on and so forth.
I shall gwa, sue me for giving me secret information now and so
they would know, right? We've got, you know, we've got
this much space to fill and the reason a minute, just a cut so
much now is so if you, you know, you think of a traditional metal
model Or a resin figure in a rubber mold.
The mold can deform when you pull them all out.
So you do interesting posing. The probably plastic is it can't
Flex so it has to come out on a flat angle.
So everything has to be drafted to between 1.5 23 degrees and
everything has to come out flat. And so what that means is if you
do low part counts, you end up with very flat miniature.
So You Think of, You Know, You and Me growing up in the 90s
with our plastic Miniatures, they're all, they're all like
that because they can come out the mold and if you look at the
war cry stuff and the own a lot of, they just take my stuff and,
you know, some the 40K stuff. Now the posing as a lot more
Dynamic and you Have Parts across the line.
So you've got that that layer from back everything, you know,
the the line of draft, everything falls away that way
and at the back Falls way that way.
And so what that means is no part can cross that line,
because as soon as some across the line, it it it doesn't work.
You can't make it. So the more parts you car, the
more pieces, you have that can cross the line because they're
all flat when they get cast but then when you assemble them
across the line. And so that's why you know,
every single arm headwear For even in some cases etcetera
because it means all of a sudden you could have pieces going in
different directions rather than just north-south.
But the downside is, it makes assembly quite a larger process
because all of a sudden you have all of those pieces where you
know, you and I would be used to a two-part plastic, it may be,
you know, like maybe the arm goes on separate.
You think the older the go for walks from the 4K s vision box,
you know, the the arm was separate because it allowed the
arms across the line and all the sudden he was doing that as
opposed to that. People listening to this will
have no idea of the pose, I just pulled.
But I just, I just imitated a golfer or those playing along at
home. Yeah.
So so that you know, that's the problem is the more parts.
You had some more complicated guess and I think what's, you
know, what's clever? As well as you know, they as
well as the kind of the knowledge that the team has,
they then obviously, they have the kind of the engineering
aspect as well, cause you got the sculptor and the engineer
who are two different teams. And then there's also, you know,
there's certain amount of the computer program, does some
heavy lifting as well. And so, So they can part the
frame out and, you know, program will be like, oh, you know, if
you do this here in this area and you know, this that the
other you'll get like ten percent more efficiency and it
just allows them to fill the frames.
Like it's hysterical. If you pick up, you know, what
kind of a, when you and I were, were playing again in the kind
of 90's and 2000's. You look at frame from, then
there's so empty because that was all being done traditionally
with, you know, with the human eye and the human mind.
And so they were not really optimized.
And now because they've got this whole extra level of, you know,
a knowledge from 20 years of doing and be this kind of this
at this technology that helps supplement their knowledge.
They can just increase the, like, the frame layout in such a
way that you can put way, way more on, in way, way less space.
So, you know, think of the all the, the Falcon graph tank frame
is a really good example. That is a Barren frame when you
look at it compared to now where, you know, a vehicle
framework, both Squad frame is absolutely packed.
And so yeah it's really interesting but it I know what
you mean. Like there's that weird thing of
I think you and I were talking earlier they like there was
something quite fun about your busting a blister pack.
Open grew in the models in the bases and Away you go and now
assembling the figure is almost like as much time as pain in the
figure sometimes, because there's just so much going on,
but the single models and we're going to bring it back on the
going to back, get back on track and just a second.
Just to finish off with the single models are okay to put
together, don't mind those the multi-part kits where you got
like five to regiment. And each individual part is
suited for an individual model that just drove me nuts.
Make these bloody dinosaur. Looking Cavalry, things are
writing those things put together with this enlightening.
So yeah, I'll be very happy when it's done and dusted and left
behind it. Back to the guy and say thank
you very much ever. Again, I I don't take missions
anymore because they Just get in the way of you penny for
yourself. Like, there was a time when I
did it for various reasons, it was kind of how I generate my
hobby money whatever. But you end up realizing, you
know, I painted for like three or four years and I had nothing
to show for it because I know because why would I ever pay for
myself when there's a commission on the desk?
So it's one of the things like unless there is a, you know, a
pertinent Financial reason for you to paint commission, do man,
like it's just not, it's never worth your time and you will
become your will come too. Isn't it?
So yeah like anyone the pains commission I you know, obviously
I work with various paintings around the world.
I take my hat off to them because I've been there, I've
done it. The money's not spectacular and
it just kills your hobby. So yeah, well I found a good
balance mate like I do I have today, I finished off Three Men
of War Noble ships in the cows Wizard Tower.
So I did that, I'm sort of doing stuff of my own Plus in a his
staff. I've got to do that other to
keep my keep my sanity. Otherwise I'll Go insane and
obviously I'm doing it for financial financial reasons.
I've got bills to pay and I need your extra money through the
year to cover those and I want to travel to Australia and I
wouldn't pay for that. So all that committee painting
commission does come in handy plus when they when they come
up, I really can't say no, you know what I mean?
Like, I'll put down the price and say, okay, I'll paint it for
this much and if he says yeah then I'll go sir.
Okay, I will grab it with two hands and just take it and okay
you know it's painting. I mean it's not Working down in
some wine, or something like that, you know, things but doing
something good for myself, doing some sort of time sharing that
way. But, but hey, you know, it's an
experience, I'm taking as an experience and that way.
I'm now, it's good. I can say, yes, I put together
my models. Yes, I painted them.
Yes. Here's some photographs, you
need some samples for the future.
And outside of your comfort zone or two to paint stuff that you
never would have, otherwise painted.
That's quite fun. Like, you know, I got to paint
all sorts of crazy models. Like, you know, I was painting
bunch of infinity stuff and I wasn't really ever going to play
Infinity that much things like that.
So, you know, there are advantages, but I just think
there's not enough, you know, there's only so many models I'm
going to paint before I die. And the more of them that are
not mine, the bigger, my part of lead gets is this a different
thing called things John yeah. Sorry I sort of bring it down on
the side. Before I die.
Hello everybody. Its GJ, I am home again.
After a very nice long day of playing Warhammer watching some
games. Basically, I'm just reporting to
you from the Dutch old Hammer corn about the Dutch old hammock
or I should say although I have also been reporting from the
Dutch old Hammer con. I have been doing some
interviews with people playing some games and That has created
this segment. Joshua asked me if I could
interview, some people give you some Impressions from the Dutch
old Hammer. Calm.
This was the first time this event was organised was
organized by scheuer to. If you're a fan of the podcast,
you have already met. He has been on Joshua
interviewed him a couple of weeks ago maybe few months ago
and today was the first time time that he organized a day.
We had 39 people joining us despite some people having to
cancel last minute because of work or because of sickness
health reasons. So all in all I must say, my
Impressions have of this day have been quite overwhelming.
It's Nice to see. So many people still caring
about these old games being in general that.
I was a very nice open atmosphere.
People were happy to talk about the things that they moved
around a game. Looking at the tables sometimes
ask questions, some of them sat down for a little bit longer,
watching some games being played entirely, some people even
participating in game. Eames.
So all in all it was a great success and that's not just me
saying that I also interviewed shirt and he has confirmed this
that in his eyes. It was a success as well.
Now I do apologize in advance for the Audio.
I have a microphone that I use for podcasting, which is fine if
it's steady on the table, and if I don't move around too much,
But the audio sensitivity changes a bit.
So I have tried with my limited podcast editing skills to to
normalize the sound as best as I could.
But there are still sometimes that the sound of my voice is a
little bit too loud because I keep the mic closer to my mouth
then to that of the of the person I am interviewing.
So I do hope this does not Not distract you too much.
Or damping your enjoyment. Let's go take a look around.
The Dutch old Hammer. Calm I'm going to walk around
for a bit, see who I can talk to.
We have here. A Warhammer quest game going on.
We have a Warhammer fantasy. Third Edition game going on
gentlemen. Why from what are you playing?
Who's winning who's losing? My name is Jakob every war game
since since the early 80s since the second edition we'll have
also Old old veteran playing with Arthur, we are playing in
our Warhammer Quest and we're both winning because we're
playing against the system. So excellent.
And how about you after I've been a war game or since the
early 90s I think. And I discovered the Warhammer
in 1995. So yeah.
Been in the hole before quite a bit and yeah like you upset
we're both winning. Awesome.
You seem to be enjoying yourselves.
You have a very nice warm. A quest set here.
I see not all the Miniatures are painted yet, you guys are still
actively playing or is it just for for this day that you dusted
off the set? And then came here?
No, I'm still, it's after game after game, but yes, it's a
comment, you're constantly painting.
You're constantly expanding your set and On a weekly basis.
We are still gaining. So yeah.
Yeah, not a big group occurs from the other side of the
country. So I meet them only at
conventions and so forth. But I have a small gaming group
in the south of Holland. And every Wednesday night, the
dice are being rolled awesome. And how did you hear about this
day? How did you get here?
Well, well, it's all it's all shorts fault.
He initiated this. And since we're both fan of
older style Warhammer games. Yeah, I sort of volunteer to
help him out and now we're here. Thank you very much, gentlemen.
Enjoy your game. Let's see.
Here, are some nice pictures being taken off a third edition
Warhammer battle. I see a lot of Undead and I see
some chaos and happy. That's a lot of India and not a
lot of chaos. Well, there's also due to the
point of course, but you appear to be on the losing side, then
notnot yet. We'll see very quickly.
This is basically sort of end game of running campaign if we
playing for I think, launched two or three years.
Ready. With chaos first unit and there
was a big escalation every time in what we were putting into the
battles. And this is the big day where
the the magic user from both sides.
Try to get control to either sermon a demonic portal or cost
wind of death on the entire area and claim all the all the bodies
for their own and neither has happened yet.
No it only happens with three objectives as soon as one player
has all three of them, at the end of the other players turn,
it's now the medic win. Because then he has all the
magical PowerPoints or otherwise.
It will be who has the most of these at the end of the game.
So there's no snow nothing. Helping you in your scaling
everything. Well, you win, of course because
you have everything done, but the goal is just the PowerPoint.
Awesome. And you've been playing this for
for two years. Just two of you.
I'm coming over to the other side of the table for a bit.
You know, each other, you both live near each other.
We live about an hour drive away, but we know each other for
a long time for over 20 years. So we have been playing this for
really for for quite a while. Always want to start with warmer
Third Edition, and we finally made it happen, sometime ago,
it's a complex complex addition. And we we met we had to use some
house rules and make some minor changes but overall it's a very
enjoyable game and why third edition specifically it's a most
elaborate I think not not in volume but most elaborate in the
number of options and rules and so it's very speaks a lot to the
imagination, I think and also I really liked the artwork and the
models from . Very good reasons, all of them.
Thank you very much, gentlemen. Enjoy your game.
Hello, meal long time. No, see, how are you doing?
Well, I'm playing my second game today with my newly painted,
several charts. How's it going so far so good?
Dwarves, blew blew up for the account for turn one.
So I'm going to keep reminding it to him because he likes that
and the first game, I had a small loss with only one Victory
point. So that was close with some
frenzy Warlords. Killing a, lots, and lots of
Shaving. Very nice and let's go over to
the dwarf side. Oscar, first time playing
dwarves in a long time, very long time, but 25 years and
starting very well, not the storm I can on the first turn.
So yeah, let's see what happens. Well, we have you under table,
we have some, some Miniatures that people brought that are
basically whatever you want to pay for them.
You can pay. You can bid we have several
boxes with free Miniatures, free B people can just take whatever
they want, but at this set here, well, please do keep it polite,
leave some stuff for all the others.
We also have here, a nice table with a lot of bits.
And we have someone looking through them.
Hello, can I bother you for a few questions?
What's your name? Yama Yama.
Hi. Welcome to the ultimate con.
Thank you. What are you looking for?
Yeah, just generally looking mostly at the games.
I haven't played for a while so I want to get into it as well.
But yeah, just meeting people meeting lobbyists.
I've started like three years ago, after a break of for 15
years. So, So yeah, just getting into
it again, with a friend and which games do you play?
Where are my fantasy? Yeah.
All right, now you're looking for Fantasy B to expand your
armies. Yes yes, yes.
A friend of mine place a lizard man, so I took some lizard.
Ben B for him as well. And I found a phonetic ball
which I was looking for, so that's great.
Yeah, I can go and play yourself.
Yeah, yeah. I play a six armies Orcs and
goblins chaos. The Demons of chaos beastmen,
Dark Elves and High Elves. So, yeah, it's getting out of
hand again. What is nice?
Mix. Let's go see what else is going
on here. We have a very large nicely
built, Nick Rimando table. What's your name playing?
Necro, Munda. How did you get here?
Oh, my name is Patrick, I'm a longtime collector for older
Games Workshop games, like neck removed languor, Kimura and
stuff like that. And we got an invite to host and
From under table here. And this is all your own stuff.
Yes. Mine and Ian Williams.
Right looks beautiful. And well I don't know anything
about no comuna myself and I'm sure some of the listeners do
and some don't. But how is it going?
I know and it's gang Warfare and you have three players I see
three different gangs. Yeah now we have chosen to take
three players, three gangs just a regular shootout usually you
try to play scenarios which makes the game a lot better but
for a demo Oh like this, we usually do just some shootout.
Yeah, it's a sort of a small gang fighting game which uses
height and cover a lot. It's basically is a small
version of the 40K. We have also here a battlefleet
Gothic table which is not being played at the moment.
Although there's someone browsing through the book.
Hello, can I ask you a few questions?
Well, what's your name? How did you get here?
And what is your connection to battlefleet Gothic?
My name is Nils. I come from Belgium, I got you
by car, but we are club from Belgium.
We used to play. That'll freak, go take back in
the day. And when we saw the advert for
an Dutch old-timer, calm. We were like, let's go there and
let's bring battle Fleet feel good thing because probably it's
one of the least things represented here.
Because you see is the only table that's here.
So, that's a, that's how I why we came here to show of
battlefleet Gothic. This is my, don't think it's
very much known to a lot of people.
So how long did it take you to get here?
We drove for about two and a half.
Hours. That's dedication.
Mate. Yeah.
And have you played already or because I see only you here to
table at the moment. Yeah, my opponent is just
grabbing a drink, and a phony. So I think.
Yeah, we are in the middle of turn, three, I think.
And yeah, it's a, the black Templars the Empire which is
played by me against chaos, the iron Warriors and it's not going
good for the black tank flush. So far Gil sees is a is a doing
his best slaughtering slaughtering the Empire which
sucks. But hey, here we are as long as
you're having fun right scales rocks.
Yeah, they have it folks. Well gentlemen, enjoy your game.
Good afternoon. What are you playing playing
Rogue Trader. Rogue Trader.
Awesome. First edition 40K.
Well, actually, no addition for the gauges Rogue Trader for it.
Okay. Well, I'm not a 40K player, but
I know that after Oak trailer came second edition.
So to me, it sounds like first, what was being played here?
We're playing extermination scenario in which the necrons
are just swarming over the field and their degree.
In the forces that there are and their objective is to run across
the field as quickly as possible.
Eliminating everything in their progress, my victory condition
is mainly that I have to take out more of his than I'm worth.
And in which case, I stole the attack for long, long enough to
be able to claim a victory. Also my hip pain, either way,
either way most of my guys are gonna die.
Yeah, I lost an scenario, right? So and I take it, you're playing
Imperial Guard Then we're playing Imperial forces because
there's a guard, there's half a company of space means to
devastate our squads three, tacticals some command scattered
around. And there is a tiny little group
hidden of inquisitorial us with their assassins that are, if you
can spot them to there, and three over there, and that's
basically what I have. And how many points is this?
Because you have a rather large table, it's let me think you're
real quick. 160 cm by 2, m 40. I think something like that.
We just put the thing together that with the tables that we
were allotted. I'm not even sure how many
points had. I had two days to write a
scenario for this and then my friend had to go to hospital and
I was taking care of his cat and walking into his house.
I realized I had to spend those two days.
The next two weeks, getting his house back in order.
So the scenario became and against the odds thing so that
he can play with everything that he's that he's got.
And when a unit gets destroyed, he can cycle it back.
So that's how he gets enough power to walk over the board.
I'm heading out to the organizer of the first Dutch old hammered
a shirt should very busy looking at some of the nice Miniatures
on display here that he may or may not take home.
Should how do you look back on this day?
It was a very successful day. What made it successful?
Well, nice atmosphere. Lots of people coming.
I really enjoyed myself. And so most of us did of offers
that, hey, I saw you also So participate in some games
Necromancer, I believe, yes, Nick Rimando.
First time I was it. I'm not system, I need to buy a
new game and I think we have a, some breaking news here.
I heard you say that this was the first Dutch Alzheimer day,
but there will be, there will be a next one.
Next year, even bigger, even better probably bigger as there
was a lot of enthusiasm from some other organized.
From events that not only with us.
So there might be a large upgrades and how did you
experience the whole process of organizing this day?
What I need things that you would do differently next time.
I'm not sure yet. We have to see, we do some,
well, look, back on the day and see what happens, a lot of info
from people around and till now. Well, I think everything went.
Well, we did our best and it instance, it was as a gaming
day, it turned out a bit bigger. So yeah.
Yeah. Well I have heard no negative
feedback from anyone here. Everybody has I think has
enjoyed themselves immensely. We are nearing the end of the
day, 15, more minutes or so I believe.
All right, so that means that I have to see if I can finish up
the campaign and back up again. Sure.
Thank you very much for organizing this day.
I had a blast and I hope that next year, we will get some some
more of the podcast listeners here as well.
So as soon as we know a date, we will mention it and then you can
start booking your trips to the Netherlands.
How does that sound? Sounds like a marvelous idea
just come over and join join. Join the fun.
All right. Thank you very much, shoot.