1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,080 About this, we make a lot of people happy mate, because I 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,720 know a lot of people have been asking about the when's the epic 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,200 series coming back and when are you and John going to do another 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,239 one? So put some smiles on those 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,840 dials mate. Good, good, that's nice. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:26,960 Nice to feel wanted. Yeah, yeah, but but have you, 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,520 have you and Sam been playing anything recently or not? 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Yeah, we've been diving back into kind of 5th and 6th edition 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,960 Warhammer, so getting a square bases on which has been really 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,040 good fun. So yeah, been been losing every 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,760 game with Yorks and gobos. That's nice Assistant failed to 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,040 do. You know how I feel. 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,760 That's good, yeah. So I like my attitude is as long 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,080 as I get my squeaks to explode across the battlefield at least 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,440 once a game, then it's all going good. 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,160 But yeah, no, Sam's been playing Scaven. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,280 She's been really enjoying the Scaven and yeah, she just 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,400 crushes me every single game. So that's crass. 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,320 So yeah, that's really, that's been where our hobby's been. 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,960 She's working on playing some Scaven. 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,960 I mean, like I've got 5 orcs on the workbench at the moment and 22 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:19,120 then I got a unit of Black Orcs and that'll be 2000 points fully 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,560 painted banners notwithstanding. So I was getting very close to 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,160 where I want them to be, which is great, but I'm just rebasing 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,280 everything at the moment onto the kind of the new old world 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,280 scale. So that's been quite fun as 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,360 well. Actually going back to square 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,120 bases. Other than that, lock Kingdom 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160 death mate. Lock Kingdom death for for good. 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,240 And I'll, I still don't know where I stand with that game. 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,320 I'm like 14 campaigns in now and I'm still not sure if I I enjoy 32 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:47,320 it or not but I keep throwing myself at it. 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,360 Well, I see. I've seen you, I've seen you 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,840 guys. Well, I've seen pictures of you 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,600 nicely painted models and stuff for it, so I know that you've 36 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,040 been playing it. Yeah, definitely. 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,520 It's it's an interesting. Like it's, it's one of those 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,920 things like I love the universe, I love the models, I love the 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,040 concept. And then you play the game and 40 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,759 you know, like, you know, who's the guy who makes it And like 41 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:10,000 the team, they're very much like, you know, the point is 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,200 you're supposed to lose. I'm like, yeah, that's a very 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,840 interesting angle to take on the game. 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,040 And you know, we've we've we've actually successfully completed 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,680 two of the campaigns, which is is quite an achievement. 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,960 I think. I think the majority of people 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,840 would never make it past about year 6. 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,360 But it's it's there are moments mate. 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,160 I've been tilted a few times. We just seem to have the most 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,200 diabolical luck, like one in 10,000 chances shouldn't happen 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,480 as many times as they do at my table, I'll say that. 52 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:39,440 But yeah, but that's good. How about you though what you've 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,320 been up to? Yeah, been trying to get some 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,200 games in when I can with the guys, but I think this early 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,600 this year it was kind of like nothing was happening. 56 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,720 It was just heads down, thumbs up kind of thing. 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,120 Just getting work done and keeping on top of it. 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,640 It's it's really strange. 2025 has been a weird one because it 59 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:02,120 basically the first five months have been a complete blur, like 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,120 it was only till April when it started slowing down a bit and 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,840 we could enjoy some holiday time and stuff like that. 62 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,720 But before that I can't really remember what we did. 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,480 I suppose we did some we did some stuff like Hero Quest and 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,640 advance here request. I did a lot of remote gaming, 65 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,360 but in person stuff it yeah, we didn't do much. 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,720 So yeah, I don't know, maybe people just get just busier 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,720 these days or our schedules haven't lined up or whatever. 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,480 So, I mean, it's nice that you and Sam, you know, 'cause you 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,200 obviously live together. So, you know, the the 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,040 opportunity of helping is increase. 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Yeah, I need, I need to convert. I need that partner. 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Yeah. We'll either have someone move 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,400 in or someone move next door. How was your lab? 74 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,600 Now like Shirley is getting into the window of like, you can 75 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,800 start to get him to the table. Yeah, he's, he's turning 9 this 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,120 year in August. But he, he does like your 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,120 request. But I think it's for those kids. 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,280 It's, it's because it takes so long before you, you get, you 79 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,200 know, because everyone has a turn and when you get back, it's 80 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,400 his turn. And then, you know, it just 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,960 takes too long. So the attention is just not the 82 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,880 attention span doesn't last that long. 83 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,960 So we've got this card game we play called Dungeon Mayhem. 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,920 And he, he played it with his friends today actually, after, 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,959 after clarity. And they absolutely love it. 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,240 So. And that's really quick and 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,720 furious and, you know, fast. So that's the kind of thing you 88 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,400 need for kids at that age. Yeah. 89 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,720 You don't. You don't want to bog them down 90 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,880 with Epic Space Marine or I. Mean that's the problem like 91 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,360 you, you, you know, I want to get Epic to the table all the 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,880 time and so I'm like, she does really enjoy epic, but once you 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,240 go above like 2-3 thousand points, it's just 5-6 hour game 94 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,600 and she's just like, this is too much. 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,560 So yeah, we, we sort of saved that for like, like Christmas, 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,440 whatever, kind of a swing Epic or just, yeah, when we're like a 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,160 good week off to take a good run at it. 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,920 Because it is, it's, you know, the kind of the 90s games. 99 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,520 It's kind of, you know, it's why we're playing a lot of 6th 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,720 edition over 5th. Like I really enjoy kind of 4th, 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,360 5th. I like the kind of just the, the 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,120 mayhem and the randomness and the kind of the extremes of it 103 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,400 all. Sixth, kind of just tone that 104 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,800 down a little bit and you can kind of turn over 2000 points to 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,360 6th Ed quite quickly, whereas if you go back to like the older 106 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,680 games, it can take a little bit longer. 107 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,480 And I think it's that I think for her, it's not so much an 108 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,320 essential part. It's just she gets really tired. 109 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,040 And I think, you know, like, I think back to my days of playing 110 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,120 in tournaments and doing like four or five games a day and I 111 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,040 just don't think my knees and back can take it anymore. 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,680 So, you know, being sitting at the table for like 4 or five 113 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,320 hours, you're like, oh, feeling my age a little bit now. 114 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,200 So it's a tough one really, because, you know, I mean, you 115 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,840 know, it's the reason we keep coming back to Epic to talk 116 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:41,200 about it. And you know, it's you know, so 117 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,640 I've, you know, I've moved everything around. 118 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,440 We've got some new cabinets, We've got some big old cabinets 119 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,560 and we've, you know, we've set up like, you know, how great my 120 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,240 partner is, like our master bedroom now is the gaming room. 121 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,080 So we've got 6 foot table in there and two massive cabinets 122 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,400 for the toys. And it's all, you know, lined 123 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,600 with with epic stuff. And I want to get it to the 124 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,120 table, But it is it's just that like because it's just got the 125 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,520 spectacle, you know, it's that's you know, when I think 40 Ki 126 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,920 think epic, I don't actually think 40K because I think 40K 127 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,880 just never had the the grand sweep like it does. 128 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,160 Yeah, it does what it does very well, but it's not quite the 129 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,280 same grand scale, which, like I said, that's why you and me just 130 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:19,040 keep coming back to this to talk about it because we do. 131 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,800 We do, you know it's. Crazy shout out. 132 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:28,320 Shout out to 8080 Wood and and Johnny Watson because 80 played 133 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,960 a game with Johnny over the week and I think they saw, I think 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,560 they did on Friday actually. So we've been coming. 135 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Yesterday I saw the photos. Yeah. 136 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,280 So that was really good to see It really inspired me because 137 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:42,920 I've got a few other guys in my discord and on Patreon that 138 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,880 really inspired me too, like Jim and Adam Madoom. 139 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,560 So I actually got to sit down after watching AD and Johnny 140 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,240 play in their photographs today, I thought I'm not going to work 141 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,560 today. I'm just going to just sit down 142 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,840 and paint epic. So I did. 143 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,200 So I, I really want to finish up. 144 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,240 I've got my, this new shelving cabinet here, I've got my Blood 145 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,600 Angels on it at the moment. So I'm sort of slowly getting my 146 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,880 way through that and I finished off the Land Raider company but 147 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,120 then I realized I need an extra 1 because. 148 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,240 OK, in the command tag, yeah. Sure, because it's all based on 149 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,400 the box set where you got initially the box set. 150 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,720 So on the sprues you just had like 12, not the 13th 1, the 151 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,680 elusive 1. So I need to get. 152 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,040 Oh, because you, so you've got like no, hang on. 153 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,720 Because it's was it on 9:00 and 1:00 and then the other two go 154 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,480 with your terminators for the Terminator card. 155 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,760 That's like 2 is it? I'm sure it. 156 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,480 Was only 12. Maybe I'm wrong, but I only had 157 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,480 12 so I. Yeah, but you only need, you 158 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,240 need 12 because you need you need 10 for the company because 159 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,400 it's it's three and three threes and A and a command and then the 160 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,040 extra 2GO with your terminators because it's 2 with four stands 161 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,280 of terminators for the Terminator card by hallucinating 162 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:57,960 that. Yeah, right. 163 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,720 OK, that'll be quick. I've got the Bible it. 164 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Depends. It depends which turns which 165 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,080 formation you're doing of course. 166 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,760 I'm talking about a company allowed Raiders and then a 167 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:17,200 Terminator sport card. 369100 You're right yeah, you're right 168 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,120 mate. So you're right. 169 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,840 OK, that's good. I don't do anything else. 170 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,000 I've just got to basically work. Yeah, that's good. 171 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,560 I I what I what I will enjoy doing is painting up the 172 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,960 Terminator ones with all the hazard stripes on the side and 173 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,800 that kind of stuff. They look cool and do the 174 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,039 banners with the the what do you call it again? 175 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:37,039 Crocs on it Crocs. On it as well. 176 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,039 Yeah. So that's cool. 177 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:39,159 OK, Thanks mate. That's great. 178 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,919 I'll need to repaint a couple of things, but that's OK. 179 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:44,400 I I don't mind. Got a good news bad news 180 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,160 situation. So that's great. 181 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,320 Yeah. Cool. 182 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,720 So, yeah, that's good, mate. So yeah, me too. 183 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,880 I'm really, really eager to get it back on the table. 184 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,680 I haven't played it this year and I'm feeling that, you know, 185 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,360 with the with the speed that 2025 is going at, I just need to 186 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,640 put the brakes on at some point. And one weekend I'm just going 187 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,680 to say we're going to, we're going to get that on my table 188 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:10,160 and just play it once. So but I am, I am working 189 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,200 towards painting up that particular battle report with 190 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,200 the Ala talk and Space Marines in it. 191 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,000 I think it was the very first space I. 192 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,240 Said it was very early on, wasn't it? 193 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,760 Because it was, they were kind of it was Jervis and was it 194 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Jervis and Andy? Was it the classic line up? 195 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,840 Yeah. And it feels like they were 196 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:34,520 still baking down the the cards. And so they they, they do line 197 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,600 up with what we know as the cards. 198 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,240 But there's a couple of things where you look at it and go, oh, 199 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,440 I don't know if that's quite the formation that ended up in the 200 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,000 book. Like I feel like it was almost 201 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,280 like a a beta test game. But yeah, it's an interesting 1, 202 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,480 isn't it? And it's a very like a very 203 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,320 classic hand drawn map, isn't it? 204 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,720 From memory, like a proper, like, yeah, it's just before 205 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,480 they started doing everything with the old computers. 206 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,480 Yeah, yeah, man. So it's a good one. 207 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,160 It's a good one. I think this is where Andy said 208 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,280 that they had to. Well, I don't know if this is 209 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,880 completely true. I'm assuming this is before 210 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,040 desktop desktop publishing, but it feels like desktop publishing 211 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,720 was there, but it just had very very limited program. 212 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Capabilities, yeah. Yeah. 213 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,760 And I think it just got, it's got upped from there, you know, 214 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,680 But yeah, yeah, very simplistic designs on the maps and 215 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:27,400 everything. But yeah, it's, it's kind of the 216 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,760 the one of the classic battle reports between those two huge, 217 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,880 I was 6000 points. So that's what we usually play. 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,120 I mean, Paul, those big ones, because it does feel like that 219 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,840 grand epic game you're playing. So yeah, that all gives me good, 220 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,120 some good targets. And once I've done that, that 221 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,880 means I've got 2 very comprehensive lists for both 222 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,280 both armies then. So yeah, a lot of work between 223 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,400 now and then mate, that's for sure. 224 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,320 It's amazing how long it takes to paint such a tiny little 225 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,920 model, hey? It does. 226 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:01,240 Yeah, it's just like, hang on a minute. 227 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,640 But it's yeah, there's a lot of them. 228 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,000 No, I don't. I wrapped up my cult of speed 229 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,120 last year, so I think it was last year, probably looking at 230 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,400 it as 2023 and I'm just going to crumble to dust again. 231 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,120 But yeah, like I wrapped up my cult speed and that was a really 232 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,480 good, I think still not done my mega Gargan like I promised 233 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,840 myself last year. I was going to paint my own 234 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,960 prayer on my mega Gargan and I've not done it. 235 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,600 So I do need to get get on with them. 236 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,240 But yeah, we'll get there. But I'm in a kind of a chaosy 237 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,960 kind of place with, with epic at the moment. 238 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,840 So but I've, I've, I've got this new thing where I like, I'm just 239 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,880 not allowed because my problem is I've always got like 30 240 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,960 projects on the go. So I've got a board now and I 241 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,040 write I've got a white board like, so the moment I've got 242 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,400 five boards to finish. And I've been doing a lot of 243 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,200 terrain as well because, you know, I've got, there's so much 244 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,960 terrain lying around it, so little if it's painted. 245 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,640 So I'm like, right, I've got to get, you know, a set of terrain 246 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,520 painted so that we can play on a fully painted. 247 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,400 So I did all the forest last week, just did the fences. 248 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,080 And then Next up Sam bought me some really nice buildings a few 249 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,640 years ago, some really nice resin buildings. 250 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,360 And I'm like, you know, she's always like, when are you going 251 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,840 to Payless buildings? I bought, you know, my idea. 252 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,000 So like, but yeah, so like I can't put Epic on the board yet 253 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,640 because I'm like, I've got to get through what's on there, 254 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,000 which is fantasy because otherwise what'll happen is I'll 255 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,760 just pivot away from fantasy again and dive back into epic. 256 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,760 And I don't know, I just it's nice to have a little, you know, 257 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,560 mix up. I ask you, you're still are you 258 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:22,640 still paying Commission? I still see you doing stuff. 259 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,640 Yeah, mate, still there? So that gives you that like you 260 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,840 get a little bit of everything, don't you? 261 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,440 Like, I think you just did some wood elves and, you know, so you 262 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,200 did some wood elves and so you're doing your orcs last year 263 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,360 now. I think it's that nice. 264 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,560 I need that, that variation as well, 'cause so I try and do 265 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:40,520 like a unit or a company or, you know, a Titan or something. 266 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:42,200 Oh, 'cause that was the thing. I paid another Reeva. 267 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,880 So I'm 2 for three on my, my Reeva battle group now. 268 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,040 So I did, I did. I've been paying an epic. 269 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,720 I've just not been getting it to the table. 270 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,480 But yeah, I just, yeah, I'll do, I'll do like one card and then 271 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,760 I'll pivot into one unit for a Warhammer and then I'll pivot 272 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,080 into like, I don't know of Kill Team for 40K or whatever it may 273 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,840 be. And well, I'm just like, right. 274 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,200 I just need to pick one game and just do. 275 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,680 And that's why I'm trying to do the 2000 points of walks because 276 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:07,160 if I get to 2000 points of walks, that would be, and you 277 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,160 know, technically I'm already well passed it, but like the 278 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,800 2000 points I've won rather than the 2000 points I've got, which 279 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,840 is not quite the same thing. You know, that would be like a 280 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,560 really good kind of base point because then everything you add 281 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,240 only gets bigger, doesn't it? It's the same as like, you know, 282 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,200 if I get, and I think I can with study with my epic orgs, 283 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,120 probably gets about 3 or 4000 points painted quite easily. 284 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,960 And then that's a really nice point because then you get that 285 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,160 ability to like, oh, I'm going to take out this clan and put 286 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,720 this clan in. But yeah, don't, don't be like 287 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,160 us kids listening at home, like have a plan and stick to it and 288 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,200 do one army doesn't have 30 armies and paint one unit. 289 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Yeah, like I've got, yeah, multiple armies worth. 290 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,360 But it's one unit of this one unit and it's 1 unit of this. 291 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:48,880 And it's from totally different games and armies as opposed to 292 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,640 one army. And I'm like, yeah, it's pretty 293 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,760 stupid. But I don't know. 294 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,400 I like, I like the to mix it up. And you know, some days you're 295 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,360 in the mood to paint a Titan and some days you're new to paint an 296 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,200 orc. What do you do? 297 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,000 That's it. I mean, no, I'm totally with you 298 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,680 there, mate. It's good to have things to mix 299 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:04,240 it around. And I always have that sort of 300 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,560 Roundhouse kind of thing where I pick up stuff and painting it. 301 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:11,560 But yeah, like, yeah, like you, I really want to complete stuff. 302 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,560 I I don't want to necessarily start new things. 303 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,520 I want to complete the things that I've already started. 304 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,120 So I need to, I need you as my manager, mate, project manager. 305 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,360 And you need to outline exactly what weeks and how much need to 306 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,480 get painted. You know, as, as somebody who 307 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,080 manages painters, let me tell you about how deadlines, because 308 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,800 we're like, OK, guys, you've got two weeks to get this box and 309 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,840 four weeks later we're like, oh, there's a couple of bank 310 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,120 holidays in there. And then we had to do that 311 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,400 emergency job. But no, they wanted to do a 312 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,760 little bit more work to make it better. 313 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,840 So yeah, I'm, I'm the worst for it because I'm, I'm too soft on 314 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,240 my team. I'm like, no, it's all right, 315 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,320 guys, I'll give you a bit of exercise because I because I 316 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,000 want it to look good. You know, I want us to, to 317 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,200 really put a kick ass stuff. And it's quite interesting that 318 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,240 we're working on a six mil game at the moment. 319 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,480 So it ain't epic, but it's nice to be working at the scale at 320 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,840 least and being like. You know at. 321 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,000 Least it's in my wheelhouse so be coming soon. 322 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,280 It's really good. They did some incredible work 323 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,400 like again like you wouldn't think there were 6 mill models 324 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,600 for the of the blending and shading they've put into tiny 325 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,880 tiny tanks. So that's good. 326 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,480 Great. OK, that sounds exciting. 327 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,280 So that'll be great. Yeah, no, I didn't. 328 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,680 I didn't remember. I do remember seeing your Riva 329 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,000 Titan. I was really, really impressed 330 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,520 with that. So that were really, really 331 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,320 nice. So I have to put a link in for 332 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,960 your Instagram page so people can come and check it out. 333 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,560 And yeah, just sitting over there just to give my good 334 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,720 friend Scott a plug from my, my sponsor who's sponsoring this 335 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,160 podcast and all the videos that I make and everything I do at 336 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Chronic Command, Black Arrow Minis and that mail order blocks 337 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,640 down there that Games Workshop one from Maryland that's filled 338 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,720 with epic goodness. I I showed you some snapshots 339 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,160 there John, you showed. Me a shot. 340 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,320 It looks pretty pretty juicy. It looks like a juicy box of 341 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,840 toys. It is mate, it is yeah. 342 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,760 So I'm really, really grateful for that. 343 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,320 So I've got I finally got my Reba Titan, so I'm really, 344 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,760 really looking forward to to painting that at some point. 345 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,040 It's. The best Titan mate. 346 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,800 It's such a beautiful girl. Like it just holds up like Jess 347 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,520 Goodwin holds up so well. I love them. 348 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,160 I just I love Reba's, but. Did did you know? 349 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,960 Did you know, John? And this is something I didn't 350 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,720 know. And Scott had to point out to me 351 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:21,960 that in one of these battle reports here, the studio painted 352 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,320 Riva Titan has, I think it's like a Hunter killer missile on 353 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,120 the top of it. On the roof, yeah. 354 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Yeah, but apparently it's not a it's not a Riva Titan weapon. 355 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,640 It's from the like all the metal weapons were just like they're 356 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,080 designed at warlord scale. But it's same if you look at the 357 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,000 the one I did the other day, the melter gun on it is a warlord 358 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,640 melter off the plastic frame. I just did a cut and shunt on it 359 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,800 to shorten it down a bit. But they are, they're 360 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,400 technically, I mean the one of them's got a, in fact, this one 361 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,600 here on the on the back. That's the one. 362 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,720 That's it. Yeah, that's it. 363 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,520 The the arm is the plastic Gatling off the warlord spur as 364 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,200 well, but they they can absolutely take those weapons. 365 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,520 It's just you just use the, the, you know, the standard metal 366 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,319 parts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 367 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:08,839 Because I've got, I've got the the cluster missile to go on top 368 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:11,800 of one of mine. I'm doing a like a because so 369 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,760 the first one I did was yeah, the, the, the default, the 22 370 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,280 laser rifles and the missile pot on the roof. 371 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,240 That's like the vanilla river. This one I've just done is a is 372 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,400 a hunter. So he's got a chain fist to melt 373 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,040 a gun. And I converted a bolter, just 374 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,119 have a smaller bolt just kind of part sliding around. 375 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,040 But the next one, yeah, it's going to be like an orc clan 376 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,080 hunter. So he's going to have the the 377 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:38,520 twin twin ball was in the arms and then the the, you know, the 378 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,560 the D6 templates missile on the top of the one shot D6 missiles. 379 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,480 So that's going to be like, yeah, like an old clan hunter 380 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,360 just putting out as many shots as possible. 381 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,440 But yeah, no, it was very much you would just, yeah, you're 382 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,400 always supposed to just use those warlord parts if you 383 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,120 wanted that weapon load out. Yeah, it's, you know, in new, 384 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,880 new new epic Legion Imperialist in, in the the Titanicus, like, 385 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,840 yeah, they've, they've actually now got bespoke weapons that are 386 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,200 kind of more suited to the scale and more suited to the, the 387 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,880 style. But yeah, in in the old days, 388 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,720 mate, you just like I say that that guy's got a plastic weapon 389 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,200 and and as you say, the metal missile part on his on his roof. 390 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,000 They weren't, they were not chassis specific. 391 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,320 I mean, you could even technically stick them on the 392 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,720 side of a war hand if you really wanted to be wacky, but not sure 393 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,240 how that'd work out sometimes. But yeah, yeah, man. 394 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,080 I have to contact Scott and he'll to hopefully procure one 395 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,040 of those for me so I can actually make the authentic 396 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,280 looking one because I really wanted to match all the weapons 397 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,360 exactly. OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. 398 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,880 And in from the from the white Dwarves. 399 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,120 So. OK, well, thanks for letting me 400 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,960 know about that mate. I'll have to look into that a 401 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,840 bit further. But today we're looking at a new 402 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,800 faction that's in the Titan Legions book. 403 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,920 So this is the critics of Titanicus and it covers all the 404 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,240 You've got it there mate. Good on you mate. 405 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,400 I got it there mate, don't you worry. 406 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,480 Yeah, it's going to cover all of the wonderful. 407 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Well, Titan Legions or Knights, I suppose that would be called 408 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,560 the Knight Households and how we get to use them in our games of 409 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,000 Titan Legions. So firstly, have you actually 410 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,320 played this faction for? Have yes, so I've not played 411 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,040 massive games with them, but I've got he, unsurprisingly, 412 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,040 because my my ridiculous collection of epic, like I've 413 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,720 got pretty much everything in it. 414 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Of course he has and I've played quite a night heavy list, so 415 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,640 I've got full companies of the three. 416 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,680 Was it the Paladin, the Aaron and the oh God, what's the third 417 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,240 one? Pounding the Apple Errand and 418 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,040 the Lancer. So I've got four companies of 419 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,320 all of them. And then yeah, the two supports 420 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,760 which is the Castellan. Castellan, yeah. 421 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,360 Castellan and the Crusader, Yeah. 422 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,720 So I can, yeah, I can. Filled three companies of 423 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,920 Knights and the two support cards, and I have played them. 424 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,440 It's quite a challenging list of builders we'll talk about as we 425 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:10,440 kind of go through stuff. I've not gone massive in terms 426 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,360 of lots of Titans. Yeah, that's kind of yeah. 427 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:14,080 It's kind of why I'm working through these these cards 428 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,560 slowly. But I always find like, I think 429 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,720 we've spoken about it before, I love Titans, but they're quite 430 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,840 challenging to play at times. But yeah, it's it's certainly a 431 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:29,040 elite small number of units, quite tactically challenging 432 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,080 army to play, let's say that much. 433 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,320 How about you? Have you managed to you ever 434 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,440 gone to the table? I don't know, I can't remember. 435 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,600 I was talking to Chris about this, my mate that I used to 436 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,760 play it with back in the day. So shout out to my friend Chris 437 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,520 in Australia. And I don't know whether we if 438 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,040 we bought this or not because I know that from like my photo 439 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,240 from my banner for the channel is just me stint standing in 440 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,680 front of the epic stand and it had tight legions there. 441 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,600 So I'm assuming it was released before that before I got to the 442 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,480 UK. So I'm thinking we did buy it, 443 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,400 but we didn't really. I'm and I'm pretty sure we 444 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,000 played it. I'm pretty sure we played it and 445 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,840 I would have played the Knights, the knight households, but I 446 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,800 have absolutely no memory of it, to be honest. 447 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,720 But I'm sure we did. I'm sure we did get to play it 448 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,960 at some point of no memory though. 449 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,600 I think it's, you know, it's that thing like because it came 450 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,520 out in tight legions and tight legions wasn't around for the 451 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,960 hugest amount of time. Like, you know, I so I came in, 452 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,480 you know, we've spoken my first white dwarf. 453 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,120 We've done that episode like 1A a which was just in the kind of 454 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,960 the real like apex. It was just after the Tyranids 455 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,400 came out. But very quickly you saw like, 456 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,080 you know, 188 to kind of the early one 90s into episode issue 457 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,320 200. That was kind of the tail off of 458 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,800 epic. And so the window, I feel like 459 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,600 with the Tyranids, you know, we spoken when we did our Tyranid 460 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,720 episode about how like the window to buy and play Tyranids 461 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,760 was quite limited. It was kind of the same with the 462 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,520 Titans because of course these were not in I mean, the Titans 463 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,080 were in classic space Marine, but like the Knights scared the 464 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,560 history of Knights another day perhaps. 465 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760 But like this list didn't exist and these miniatures didn't 466 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,000 exist. And so I think yeah, like, you 467 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000 know, even though the the core box came with you got, you know, 468 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,400 you got your your knight household. 469 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,040 So you got, you know, it was 910 and 1212 power lens. 470 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,400 So you got a household of power lens and a sport card of power 471 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,600 lens and then the imperator. So if you were buying the the 472 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,280 core game, that would have been your your introductory army if 473 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,920 you're playing the good guys, quote UN quote. 474 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,480 But then kind of breaking out from that, there just wasn't 475 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,960 that time. And I think, you know, we we 476 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:39,920 sort of spoke before the show about are we going to do all the 477 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,720 White dwarf content? And I think plans to come back 478 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,200 to that. But like the whole list didn't 479 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,640 even make it into the book. And so I wonder if there was 480 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,080 this kind of longer term plan to do like the Tyranids, like a 481 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,560 standalone box of here's your, you know, your and I guess it 482 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,600 would kind of be a deaf Mechanicus almost or, you know, 483 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,600 deaf Titanicus spending how you think about it in terms of the 484 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,400 army. And so maybe there would have 485 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,440 been more. And you know, we know the 486 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,720 imprator had the upgrade kit, the warmonger, which you know, 487 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,040 I've, I've, I've got my warmonger that my cousin gave me 488 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,880 so many years ago and I've still only painted the head. 489 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,440 And one day it will have its time to shine. 490 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,160 Like the rules for that never even existed for 2nd edition. 491 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,280 I will always look at did anybody ever get the rules for 492 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,360 it? And I've seen rules for 3rd 493 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:20,520 edition. I've seen rules for 4th edition, 494 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,400 but I've never found second edition rules for warmonger. 495 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,920 So it feels like there was a lot more coming for them. 496 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,400 And like I said, I wonder if there was going to be an army 497 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,920 box and then just epic cells tape it off and they, you know, 498 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,720 discontinue the game and blah, blah, blah. 499 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,480 And so we never saw it. So I don't think you'd be a that 500 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,880 unusual in the idea of like I never really got to experience 501 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Knights and, and, you know, Titans and and the sport clads 502 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,120 because I just don't think they they had their time to shine, 503 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,360 which is a real shame because it's, it's such a you know, it's 504 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,400 it's that's the the majesty of epic. 505 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,520 That's why I love this game because it lets you do armies of 506 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,000 Knights and Titans. And yes, I know you can play 507 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,040 Knights in 40K now, but like, you can't play companies in 40K, 508 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,120 can you? You know, like you can't have 509 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,080 like 30-40 Knights running around with a couple of, you 510 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,680 know, warlord Titans and an imperator back in the mob. 511 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Like that's what epics for. I just think, yeah, it's a shame 512 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,840 that they just they never quite found their their place. 513 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,920 And you know, again, go back to that, you know, my first white 514 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,480 Dwarf and go and listen to the show, you know, check out Josh's 515 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,160 archives for for for, you know, hearing I think there's quite a 516 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,000 few of them out there now, aren't they? 517 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000 But like 188 was my first issue, and that was a Adeptus 518 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,600 mechanicus, sorry, Titan legions battle report featuring a 519 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,800 imperial Titan and and knight army. 520 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,360 Sorry, it wasn't Titan knight Titan tech guard army. 521 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,760 And so, you know, that is that's my defining, you know, entry 522 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,360 point into the hobby, seeing that and being like, OK, that's 523 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,600 cool. Like, you know, it's where I 524 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,360 fell in love with gargons. It's where I fell in love with 525 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560 impaired Titans. It's where I fell in love with, 526 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,200 you know, the imperial garden, the tanks and whatever. 527 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,240 And so you know that that battle report is quite interesting. 528 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,840 It's a 6000 point battle report because they got a mega Gargon 529 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,240 and a an imperator in there and a, you know, full Gargon 530 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,080 company, a full reaver company. And I think it's, you know, it's 531 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,720 epic at its absolute best. And I think AD played that one, 532 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,640 didn't he? He was the he was the guard 533 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,720 player. He won the battle. 534 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Spoilers for those of you spoilers for a 31 year old 535 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,680 battle report. Like apologies for everyone if 536 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,640 I'm just ruining that surprise. I think 31 years is enough time 537 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,680 to say the spoilers rules are could be broken. 538 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,480 But yeah, you know, like I think that like if if you want to know 539 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,160 where to start and where to get into this and then to be 540 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,760 inspired by it, go and grab issue 1A a have a read of it, 541 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,880 have a read of that battle report. 542 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,320 And yeah, like, and I think that really shows that whilst you can 543 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,920 play, you know, all Titans and all Knights, perhaps having that 544 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,960 mix and, you know, we'll talk about the tech guard in a 545 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,800 minute, like having that mix is perhaps a more tactically 546 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,600 flexible and sensible way to play. 547 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,720 I don't know. Yeah, But yeah, thank God. 548 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:03,160 Let's do this As ever, I'm just, you know, waffling on talking. 549 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,240 Yeah, that's good, mate. That's great. 550 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,480 But yeah, like I said, there's there's a lot of stuff to cover 551 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,360 and I just thought it would be just it would be just a very 552 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:13,120 bloated episode. If we if we can sort of condense 553 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,920 all those other articles from White Dwarf into sort of bite 554 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,120 sized podcasts and shows that we can, it's a good excuse for us 555 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,960 getting back in together and catching up again and, and 556 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,160 seeing what's been happening. Maybe the game in. 557 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,840 Yeah, maybe you've got a game in of Epic in between them and 558 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,800 maybe I do too, so we can talk about that as well. 559 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,400 So yeah, we're just going to cover the Knight households 560 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:42,240 about about them themselves, how to organize your forces and how 561 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,080 they actually play and look at their stats and everything for 562 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,080 this one. And we'll see how we go, mate. 563 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,280 All right, So shall I, shall I get us under way and read the 564 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,720 you do here on page 27. All right, here we go. 565 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,080 So looking at nights, the night world supply the teeming forged 566 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,200 worlds of the Adeptus Mechanicus with vital food and raw 567 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,800 materials. Most of the night worlds have a 568 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,280 number of major land masses covered with vast planes of lush 569 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,920 forests. Through the through these empty 570 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:17,000 wildernesses wander grazing herds of huge megasauruses, 571 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,360 dinosaur like creatures that either evolved naturally or were 572 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:23,600 transplanted to the planet in the dark age of technology. 573 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,760 Packs of Swift Oh here we go. Carnosaurs pursue the herds in 574 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,520 the night Warrior Knights in their armoured suits fight. 575 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,440 Allard suits fight to keep them at Bay. 576 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,880 The Knights must be constantly vigilant in order to keep not 577 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,200 only the cardosaurs, but also Raiders from the elder Exodite 578 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,080 clans at Bay. The servitor run strip mines in 579 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,480 the mountains must also be protected against rapacious 580 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,320 pirates in search of gold, silver and uranium. 581 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,000 Year long the nights battle and patrol until the great ships 582 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520 arrive from the forged world, bringing new night suits, 583 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760 weapons, tools and mining machinery. 584 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,920 They leave with their holds packed with oars and megasaw 585 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,600 meat. There you go. 586 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,720 Sometimes the warp storms are bad and the ships are delayed 587 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,920 for months at a time, leaving the Night World's teetering on 588 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,960 the edge of anarchy. When the tight legions March to 589 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,960 war, contingents from the Night World's fight with them. 590 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,000 Each noble family sends their own formation of armored 591 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,080 warriors called a Night Household. 592 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480 These households vie with one another in acts of valor and 593 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,840 heroism, Heroism on the battlefield, as well as the 594 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,200 spectacle of banners and individual heraldry emblazoned 595 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,080 on each suit. Well, there you go. 596 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,400 We've even got some dinosaur meat thrown in there, mate. 597 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,600 In the, in the. Yeah. 598 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Robots versus dinosaurs. Well, what do you want? 599 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,040 Yeah, it's a great, it's a great visual image. 600 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,120 Like, did I ever tell you I really don't like dinosaurs in 601 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,800 science fiction? I don't know what I don't know. 602 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,400 Yeah, I'm sorry. I must. 603 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560 I must be the only person out there who doesn't like it. 604 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,920 You don't love the idea of like, you know, 100 foot tall robot 605 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,480 just punching AT Rex in the face. 606 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,920 I really do. Really don't like it. 607 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Yeah, so so you're like the one person in the world is when 608 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,120 we're like, ohh, maybe this is the year we finally get the 609 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,960 elder exercise. You're like that they they could 610 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,200 stay in the history books. Yeah. 611 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Maybe it's maybe it's a lizardman. 612 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,320 Maybe that's what it's coming from. 613 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,960 Maybe I don't have. It was Jurassic Park and not 614 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,000 like a formative film for you like I. 615 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,280 Really didn't like the Jurassic Park films either. 616 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,720 Yeah, no, sorry Madam. So there is only one Jurassic 617 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Park film. There was the first Jurassic 618 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,480 Park. There are no other Jurassic Park 619 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,040 films. I don't know. 620 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,080 What you're talking about what the other Jurassic Park films? 621 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,840 There are no other Jurassic Park films. 622 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,920 OK. Oh, there you go. 623 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Well, there you go. I haven't missed out on much 624 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,160 then apparently. No, you've really not, mate. 625 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800 But no, Jurassic Park 1 is is an incredible film. 626 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,480 It's a perfect film. So maybe should, maybe should 627 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,240 watch it again. Maybe should watch it again. 628 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,160 Yeah, it's been a long time. And so yeah, I'm not, I'm not a 629 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,480 dinosaur, not today. I'm not a dinosaur boy, mate. 630 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,440 I know my son kind of looks likes looking at dinosaurs and 631 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,160 kind of interested about lizards and insects and all that kind of 632 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,760 stuff. And. 633 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,760 Is it because you grew up in Australia where there are just 634 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,560 actual dinosaurs running around trying to? 635 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,040 Eat it could be the could be the case. 636 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,320 It's not so cute when you're living it, mate. 637 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,080 Like I'm I'm safe over here in England where dinosaurs just 638 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,800 fossils, they're amazing. You're like, don't add to 639 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,800 wrestler T Rex on the way to the shops just to get a loaf of 640 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,800 bread like. And I'm not, I'm not a dinosaur 641 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,840 denier either. OK. 642 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,560 I don't think that all the bones and stuff like that are fake or 643 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,440 anything like that. But, yeah, I've never, just 644 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,640 never been attracted to to giant lizards in in science fiction 645 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,480 world. I don't know what it is, but 646 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,160 there you go. Fair enough. 647 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,840 All right. So how, how do we choose a 648 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,800 knight army, good Sir? Well, so the good news is this 649 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,760 is this is one of those armies that actually uses the army 650 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,520 building rules, as opposed to every example we've given 651 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,280 previously where like, so take the army building rules and 652 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,680 throw them in the bin. So the good news is it's built 653 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,960 around the classic thing where you get your, you get your 654 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320 company card and you're allowed your company card. 655 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,600 And there's a couple of different company cards. 656 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,960 So you can have companies of Titans, reavers or warlords or 657 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960 night households. And there's, there's one 658 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,760 included in the book, which is the, the Paladin card, which is 659 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,560 the one you get with the, with the, with the box set. 660 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,600 There are also, as I say, if you when we get into the white 661 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,720 dwarfs, you do also get Paladin errands and Lancers, but we'll 662 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480 deal with those in another show. So you get your, your one 663 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,400 company. You can also have tech guard 664 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,160 companies. So if you needed some infantry 665 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,760 and we'll talk about why you might want infantry down the 666 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,160 road. And then the other really 667 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,840 interesting thing was quite unusual is this is where we 668 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,680 discovered split cards, Although I think technically there's one 669 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,840 of the obviously Imperial boxes in there because there's the 670 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,160 Inquisitor. But yeah, so some Imperial Guard 671 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,480 companies can also be tech guard companies. 672 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,280 So in the box they give you Storm Blades and Lehman Russes 673 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,240 if you wanted some tanks to go with. 674 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,920 So you're allowed one of those. And for every one of those you 675 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,200 get up to five support cards. So we've got all the the five 676 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,760 flavors of night. So Lancer Aaron, Paladin, 677 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,640 Castello and Crusader or or hounds if you want some more 678 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Titans, sport some light scout Titans. 679 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,080 And then again, a bunch of imperial guard slash tech guard 680 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,480 support cards. So storm blades, bathless 681 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,920 chimeras, Lehman Russes, hydras, and then the actual tech guard 682 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,280 themselves, tech guard heavy. So that's you guys with your 683 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,840 last cannons in chimeras or on foot and then also manta Cause 684 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,600 so it's a weird, it's a weird mix of oh, and then obviously 685 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,600 then you get for every one of those, you get a special card as 686 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,720 well. And so you start with your 687 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,040 company, choose your company, add a bit of flavor with some 688 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,400 support, add a special card for the spice. 689 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,520 So that's your, your, your imperator, that's your solo 690 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520 reaver Titans. And again, all the other special 691 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,160 cards are equally applicable here. 692 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240 So if you've got obviously the imperium, if you've got the 693 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,840 spacing box, you can pull those in as well. 694 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,840 Or then the, the nice, the Baron, which is the the night 695 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,800 exclusive special card as well. So it's yeah, you know, you're 696 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,440 playing like a quote UN quote space for army. 697 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:07,640 So Space Marines, Imperial Guard and Titans all use this system. 698 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,200 The the actual system. Orcs technically do as well, 699 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,400 don't they? But you took the clad 700 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,000 restrictions. It's a slight flavor. 701 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,240 And squats are the other one that uses the quote UN quote 702 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,640 normal system. And everyone else has their own 703 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,560 variation on it or their own spin on it, Right. 704 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,040 I know maybe the elder are the same as well, but again, 705 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,240 restricted by. So yeah. 706 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,320 Anyway, so if you know how to build a space for an army, you 707 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,360 kind of know what you're doing. And I just think, yeah, the 708 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,880 difference here is the companies are 10 more towards the smaller, 709 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,280 heavier, more elites. So the the tight groups and the 710 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,720 night groups. But you do have access to the 711 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,240 the tech guard if you need those numbers. 712 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,480 And I think, you know, again, if you go back to that, that report 713 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560 in one a, a if you look at a lot about reports where the tides 714 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,360 popped up, you do tend to see the tech guard company, if 715 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,960 nothing else, because they fit perfectly into the legs of an 716 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,360 infrared tie. And it's almost like they 717 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,120 planned that or, you know, it's just good numbers. 718 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,240 So yeah, it's yeah, 1151. Those, those are numbers you've 719 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,960 got to remember. And then you just build out 720 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,760 until you've hit your your points cap. 721 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,440 Excuse me, That's it. Yeah. 722 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,639 Like you said, it's just just like building any out like a 723 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,199 Marine army, elder army. Very simple. 724 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:26,280 You know, you just need to take your mandatory, what do you call 725 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,080 it household card, I suppose for the Knights. 726 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,920 And then you have 5 detachments you can add to that and you can 727 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,280 take a special card if you want to or you don't have to. 728 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,920 So, but, but we'd like to take special cards now with the just 729 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,080 talking about that too with the Titan battle groups. 730 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,600 You can take battle groups in, in Titan legions. 731 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,880 And I discovered something with a, a friend of mine actually, 732 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,639 because he was keen to play Titan legions with me. 733 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,800 And I said, oh, that's great. And he's got some and and he's 734 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,320 got tons of Titans. So I said, oh, great. 735 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,080 OK, so you can make an army list easily. 736 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,040 I'll make a Eldar list. And you know, and I was going to 737 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,520 take one Titan. So he shows, he shows he can say 738 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,720 I made my list and I said, OK, give me a look at it. 739 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,400 So he had, he didn't say like just tons and tons of Titan, the 740 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,400 adult groups. And I think really can you can 741 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,760 you fit all those into like a like a 4000 point game? 742 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,880 He said, yeah, yeah, it's all legal. 743 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,120 So you sure? I said that doesn't look right. 744 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,400 So when they had look and sure enough you basically get one at 745 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,640 a discount, you pay for two. Like 2 get one free Yeah, yeah, 746 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,840 it's just. Insane. 747 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,560 Absolutely insane. So basically you're getting like 748 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,880 a, yeah, a 600 point or 900 point reduction depending on 749 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,160 what it is. And I'm saying that's that can't 750 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,680 be right. I mean that that looks really 751 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,040 broken. No, it's more thinking. 752 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,160 But then I'm. Thinking like OK so they have to 753 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,360 they have to sit within 6. Yes, centimeters of each other, 754 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,200 don't they? No. 755 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,320 So there's a slightly. Longer, isn't it? 756 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,560 I'd have to grab my rule book. So they get. 757 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,200 Slightly because I mean, you think this goes right the way 758 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,760 back to the orcs with the the Gargon mob. 759 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,880 The Gargon big mob is exactly the same. 760 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 And the joke about the Gargon big mob is, you know, you look 761 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,120 in white dwarf and people always go 2 great, 2 great Gargons and 762 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,240 a slasher. Actually, you just take 3 great 763 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,200 gargons. Like why would you ever take the 764 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,080 discount on you know, like take the free great Gargon. 765 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:16,360 So it was always in the game and you know, if you if you ever get 766 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,280 involved with net epic, they did change it. 767 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,880 So you did pay for the third chassis and they also put 768 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,160 weapons because that's the other thing as well. 769 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,840 There's no weapons points cost, so you can build the like the 770 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,160 apex predator Titan and it costs the same as an absolutely crap, 771 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,080 terrible loadout Titan. And that all got like, yeah, 772 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,600 that epic. The community decided they'd try 773 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,240 and bring a bit of balance into the force, but yeah, it's, you 774 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,000 know, you just, you just need yourself 3 phantom Titans, mate, 775 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,240 and then you'll be all right. And then you can. 776 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:46,880 Yeah. Like why do you get one free 777 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,720 yourself? Because yeah. 778 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,440 And, and, you know, I think it is that The thing is, you know, 779 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,440 the, they've got the, you know, the, the I think is it 10 780 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,960 centimeters or is it 15 centimeters? 781 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,320 They've got a slightly elongated spread, but they do have to stay 782 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,200 together. And I think the other thing as 783 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,360 well as, you know, as we talk about like tactics and playing 784 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,160 them, Titans are really good at killing stuff, but they are one 785 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,920 big target. So they're quite easy to pick 786 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:19,080 off if you focus fire and they struggle with like control. 787 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,000 So you know, they are going to struggle, I mean, and they can't 788 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000 enter, you know, woods and things like that as well. 789 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,680 So if a unit of inventory is running captured A objective, 790 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,720 they are going to struggle to shift that off. 791 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,080 So there is, you know, there is negative to them. 792 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,520 But as you say, if you're not aware of the buy 2 get one free 793 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,120 and you turn up for a happy friendly game of Epic and your 794 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,720 opponent's rocking like 50% or no, sorry, 33% more Titans than 795 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,920 you were expecting and it has not paid for those Titans, 796 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,600 you're going to feel pretty sore about it. 797 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,800 Like, I get that for sure. Yeah, no, I. 798 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,440 Just it just it on paper just didn't look a really enjoyable 799 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,520 game for me. So it's like we're going to get 800 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,320 you more infantry, you know, And so you said you're. 801 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,080 Playing elders. So what you do mate is you take 802 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,800 your orcs and you just buy as many cards of shark attack guns 803 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,520 as you can and then you just as your opponent's tight and stand 804 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,360 around doing nothing for the entire you don't kill them, you 805 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,640 just just shark attack them. The Chronicle Man is proud to 806 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,360 be. Sponsored by Scott and Black 807 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,160 Arrow Minis, Scott has a range of second hand miniatures from 808 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,360 several manufacturers which include Citadel, Grenadier, 809 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,440 Ralpatha, Battletech and many more. 810 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,680 Collections that I enjoy poring over are the old Perry Empire, 811 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,200 Ally Morrison's Marauder Dwarves, and the old metal 812 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,280 models for Epic Space Marine. So go take a look today and head 813 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:49,120 over to Scott's website at www.blackarrowminis.com. 814 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,480 Yeah, so we'll have to have to organize something else with 815 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,520 Max, with his army. Maybe I should give it a go and 816 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,640 just see how it goes. Maybe he he'll be quite 817 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,440 dissatisfied playing all those times and not having the 818 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,160 flexibility of having infantry and having mechanized infantry, 819 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,240 taking objectives and being fast because it'd be a lot slower as 820 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:10,960 well. So yeah, we should give it a go 821 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,960 and give it a try and see how it goes just so that you can 822 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,560 experience the game and and play it. 823 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,600 All right, so let's look at the special rules for Knights. 824 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,520 So for closed combat. So I'm just gonna read this verb 825 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,840 by vibrating. OK, so just like vehicles, if 826 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,960 Knights have charge orders, they move up to double the distance 827 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,800 printed on their speed value and may enter close combat. 828 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,760 Some Knights have a special Lance attack. 829 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,120 If the knight detachment charges into close combat, then it 830 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,680 receives the benefit of using their lances. 831 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,600 See below. If the knight allows themselves 832 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,880 to be charged, then the close combat is resolved in the usual 833 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,840 way, as if the Knights were vehicles and using their basic 834 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,080 close assault factor. OK, so I think they've got some 835 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,520 kind of exploding Lance attack if they charge. 836 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,720 Yeah, it's it's. Interesting because the Lancer 837 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,200 has a Lance and it's talking about the Lance rule, but it's 838 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,080 not the Lance that they use. It's as you say, they kind of 839 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,320 like force project their Shields as like an energy wave. 840 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,240 So yeah, that's interesting, but no, it's you want to be charging 841 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,280 with Knights is the take away there for sure. 842 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,480 Okay, let's now read about. Their Shields. 843 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,680 So Knights carry a small but potential directional power 844 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,920 field generator. This works by creating a power 845 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,720 field across a 90° arc to the front of the knight by skilfully 846 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:30,000 manipulating the this field and knight tries to slow and deflect 847 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,800 enemy fire to represent this and he's hit scored on the front of 848 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,760 the knight received no save modifier, so the Knight's saving 849 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,600 throw to the front cannot be affected by weapon save 850 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160 modifiers. Shots which strike the knight 851 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,960 from the side or rear are allowed to use their save 852 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,520 modifier as usual. Now this This comes as an 853 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,480 interesting point because I kindly got gifted some Knights 854 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,920 from my good mate Adam Doom over in Denmark. 855 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,920 And when I received them, I had this little bar thing across the 856 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,080 front of the base and I was almost going to cut them off 857 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,520 John. I mean, I did like. 858 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,120 I I did mate, knowing what they were for, but I just, I like my 859 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,160 bases to be, you know. Yeah, I know enough. 860 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,440 But then I thought, I can see why now. 861 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,360 But then if you if you buy the metal ones, because it came in 862 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,040 plastic and obviously metal was the predominant types you need 863 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,520 to get because they had all the different class of Knights. 864 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,600 Well, they didn't have the same base. 865 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,240 So they kind of missed the missed it there a little bit 866 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,400 because they were a slot of base. 867 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,800 So they could have just sucked those in with the with the metal 868 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,400 miniatures, but they didn't. So it's just a bit of a trick 869 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,240 there for young players. I think it's because they. 870 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:45,200 The bases with the chilled marker on it were on the Paladin 871 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,080 frame, and so for every one of those you get one pilot in. 872 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,720 So they couldn't then pack them in with the. 873 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,600 But yeah, it's crazy that they they came up with a solution to 874 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,800 a problem that they created and then didn't figure. 875 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,680 Out, but you know again. It speaks to the work was said 876 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,680 yesterday, like the number of bases that are available from 877 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,320 workshop now, like it's crazy how many like you know, they're 878 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,760 like, oh, I didn't realize there was a night e-mail round and 100 879 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,000 mil round base. So but back in the day, you 880 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,000 know, we had 25 mils and 25 mil squares and 20 mil squares and a 881 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,520 40 mil square. And that was your loss. 882 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,560 So like they weren't at the point there where, yeah, they 883 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,320 would have, you know, told up. And of course, back when plastic 884 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,880 tooling was even more limited in its applicability that the days 885 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,600 of everyone having full plastic armies were a mere, you know, 886 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,360 twinkle in the eye of games were shot. 887 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,280 But yeah, so they just didn't spool up a frame that cast with 888 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,600 that that show marker, partly because I guess, you know, there 889 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,320 were five profiles in the entire history of games virtual that 890 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,400 used it. The five, well, six, the Baron 891 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,400 as well. So there were six night chassis 892 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,320 that existed at the time and they were the only ones that 893 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,880 would have needed that base. So I guess there was no point. 894 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,160 But yeah, it is crazy that the plastic Paladins have it 895 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,080 denoted. And then, yeah, maybe it's 896 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,520 partly because they were the, you know, the star set model. 897 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,560 It was to help on boarding, you know, because trying to work out 898 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,280 what's a, you know, a 90° cross section of a base. 899 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,360 It's, you know, the War machine used to have the same problem. 900 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,400 You need 180° line of sight markings and they didn't mark 901 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,640 them on the basis you had to manually mark them. 902 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,160 And it was always like, oh, you know, but it's a game of 903 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,120 gentlemen, isn't it? It's about, you know, it's about 904 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,880 being fair and open and honest and not trying to take advantage 905 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,800 of mechanical limitations. I can see this causing a lot of 906 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,800 a lot of arguments back in the day with young kids on the plane 907 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,880 on the carpet. But yeah. 908 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,440 OK. So it's got a diagram here on 909 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,920 page 28 here of the of that particular case where you've got 910 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,440 that 90° front unmodified save and -1 saved to the sides and -2 911 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,360 saved to the rear if they get shot there. 912 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,480 OK, so barrages are considered to hit the knight from the 913 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,240 direction the weapon is fired. This represents the Knight's 914 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,720 shield deflecting the fire before it passes him. 915 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,440 Indirect barrages are considered to come from the centre of the 916 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,680 burst template if the knight If the knight fails it's saving 917 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,240 throw, it is destroyed and removed from play. 918 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,160 As usual. You'll find that the knight 919 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,520 models in this box have a small lip on their bases across the 920 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,280 area which is protected by the shield. 921 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,320 To determine whether a shot hits from the front, the knight of 922 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,080 the knight place a straight edge, like a ruler, between the 923 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,240 fire and the centre of the Knight's base. 924 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,480 If it crosses the lip, it strikes the shield and OK, then 925 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,200 we're going to the shock Lance. The shock Lance is used by 926 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,520 Knights to deliver high voltage electromagnetic shocks to 927 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,160 enemies that are in close that they are close assaulting. 928 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,160 The engines of the Knight suit are fitted with huge Dynamos. 929 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,440 As the Knight builds up speed and charges into combat, the 930 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,720 Dynamo resolve. The Dynamos resolve, storing an 931 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:55,800 electronic charge in capacitators mounted on the 932 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,080 Knight suit's visor. When the new When the night 933 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,720 enters close combat, the charge in the capacitors is so great 934 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,600 that it can do nothing but earth itself, usually via the enemy 935 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,560 delivering A devastating electronic shock which can burn 936 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,920 infantry to the bone and short out weapon and control systems. 937 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,240 When an Imperial Night detachment equipped with Lancers 938 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,240 charges into close combat, it double S its close assault 939 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:21,160 factor for the first round of combat. 940 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,800 However, Knights may only assist each other in multiple combats 941 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,120 when fighting super, super heavy vehicles, Titans, or Gargons. 942 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,120 Otherwise they risk discharging the arcing electric electrical 943 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,800 energies from their lances on each other. 944 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,680 If 2 Knights end up fighting in a multiple combat against 945 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,040 vehicles or infantry, discount their Lance bonus and Knight 946 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,200 will not use his weapon under such circumstances. 947 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,240 Knights who are charged themselves receive no benefit 948 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:54,080 from their Lancers, as their Lancers will not be charged. 949 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,600 So there you go. You cannot. 950 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,200 You cannot pair them up, basically. 951 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,520 I think that's a nice like we've spoken about this before as like 952 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,880 it when a rule kind of reflects the narrative. 953 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,040 So like, is this kind of a nod to the idea that like each of 954 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,600 the Knights is kind of trying to be like the hero proving 955 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,000 himself? He's like, I'll take you know, 956 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,000 I'll solo charge. I'll I'll jewel this this, you 957 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:23,120 know, hated foe nobody else get involved because I've got this. 958 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,840 And so yeah, like they're all trying to, you know, constantly 959 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,480 one up each other and you can imagine them all like drinking 960 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,960 after the fact and telling the tall tales of how they fought 961 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,440 off this, that and the other. So it's you know, it's it's a 962 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,400 it's a nice it's a nice, you know, benefit for yeah, 963 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,280 encouraging you to to kind of, you know, be nightly be that 964 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,560 kind of heroic slash stupid fighter, like picking on an 965 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,160 enemy perhaps too big for him. So it's cool. 966 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,040 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 967 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,440 No, I do like. That rule because, yeah, I mean, 968 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,840 if you, if you did, if you'd sort of doubled up or tripled up 969 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,120 on a, a garg and or whatever, yeah, I mean that's, that's 970 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,680 going to be quite threatening to that garden because it, I think 971 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,240 mostly there are going to be a close assault factor. 972 00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:09,000 We'll look at those in a minute, but maybe 8 being the highest. 973 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,840 I think for most of them they double them on a charge. 974 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,000 So yeah, I mean, you know, that's almost as good as what, 975 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,000 mech boy Gargon or something like that maybe. 976 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,720 So, yeah, pretty good indeed. OK, so the Knights, the most 977 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,640 numerous form of Knight suit comes in two basic type, the 978 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,240 Knight Paladin and the Knight Errant. 979 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,800 These both use the same basic body from form with different 980 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,320 weapon arrays. This particular body form is 981 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,840 well liked for its flexibility on the battlefield, it's arm and 982 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,120 legs protected against marauding infantry units but still give it 983 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,160 speed and manoeuvrability to use it's deadly shock Lance. 984 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,520 Both of these types of Night are traditionally equipped with 985 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,160 special close combat weapons and are famed for their skill with 986 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,840 them charging into the enemy and delivering blows left and right 987 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,120 with their chain swords and power gauntlets. 988 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,840 This close combat capability is tempered with powerful range 989 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,240 weapons to blast enemy vehicles from a distance and bolters to 990 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,720 mow down inventory targets. There you go. 991 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,480 I'm sold on these now already. They sound. 992 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,840 They sound delicious. OK mate, you take it away with 993 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,280 the Night Paladin. Sure. 994 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,000 So Night Paladin's. The archetypal night suit armed 995 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,240 with a large caliber battle cannon, the giant Chain sword. 996 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,720 Such a machine is suitable for battling the steely fire 997 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:21,240 breathing monsters of the battlefield. 998 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,320 The battle cannon has an excellent range of 75 999 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,520 centimeters and is accurate, only needing to roll A4 or 1000 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,880 better to hit. I love that four up is 1001 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,960 considered accurate and epic. The battle can has -2 save mod 1002 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,040 means it can punch your even tighten armor. 1003 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,280 The chainsawed improves the Paladin's already impressive 1004 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,840 close assault factor, making it as powerful as a War Hound Scout 1005 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,200 Titan when it charges into combat because it's armed with a 1006 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,240 specialist hand Tighten combat weapon and Night Paladin may 1007 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,840 attack even a Mega Gargon or an Emperor class Titan in close 1008 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,920 combat. So yeah, it's 20 centimeter 1009 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,920 move, which is is a good pace three up save with again, the 1010 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,880 previously noted shield from the front. 1011 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,480 So that's a bears a pretty decent save, especially when you 1012 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,280 ignore modifiers from the front. So a close sort of four, which 1013 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,120 is then double to 8 on the charge, which is great. 1014 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,480 And in the battle cannon, we love a 75 centimeter hitting on 1015 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,440 a 4 -, 2 save weapon. You know, we've spoken before 1016 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,920 about all battle cannons. We've spoken about leaving Russ 1017 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,760 is like it's a good solid gun. And then it's also got the 1018 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,600 defensive bolter. So this is quite common to a lot 1019 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,640 of Titans and knives. They get the 15 centimeter 1020 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,480 bolters just for kind of close, you know, dealing with infantry 1021 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,920 swarms and stuff, only hitting on a six. 1022 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,320 So don't expect miracles from it. 1023 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,120 But yeah, you know, the Paladin is the, I think you'd probably 1024 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,480 call it the tactical chassis. Decent on the charge, good 1025 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,080 shooting. Yeah. 1026 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,200 Like it'll, it'll plink away at times. 1027 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,560 It'll plink away at vehicles. I think it will struggle into 1028 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,120 infantry swarms. But yeah. 1029 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,840 And again, that's 75 centimeters range. 1030 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,120 You know, we've spoken before about like a lot of guns kind of 1031 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,680 fall off at 50 centimeters. So having that extra 25 1032 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,720 centimeters does give you that tactical flexibility to to just 1033 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:53,760 stay a little bit further back and pick your battles. 1034 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,440 So, you know, there's a reason it was the the one that came in 1035 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,680 the box. It's a reason that it's kind of 1036 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,640 the most, you know, standard night chassis and the standard, 1037 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,040 you know, it's the first, the plastic kit GW first hit for 40K 1038 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,080 as well was a Paladin slash errand. 1039 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,960 It's the classic knight, You know, it's cool. 1040 00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:12,880 Yep, Yep. It's good to mate, Yeah? 1041 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,240 It's a good all rounder really, isn't it? 1042 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,680 OK, let me. Go into the Knight Errant. 1043 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,240 Here, the Knight Errant is highly suited to attacking 1044 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:22,240 larger targets like Cows, Titans, and even Mega Gargens. 1045 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,360 The Knight Errant carries a fearsome thermal cannon cable of 1046 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,560 vaporizing steel or flesh with equal relish. 1047 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,080 In close combat, the Knight's power Gauntlet and Shock Lance 1048 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,800 may get capable of tearing gaping holes in its foes. 1049 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,840 However, the Knight Errant needs support from its companions 1050 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,160 because in closing with its opponents, it is vulnerable to 1051 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,600 attacks from the sides and rear. If a Knight Errant scores a hit 1052 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,600 on a Titan or Gargon in close combat, it's powerful gauntlet 1053 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,360 allows it to add +2 to the damage role. 1054 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,200 Because it is armed with a Specialist Hand in combat 1055 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,080 weapon, a Night Errant may attack even a Mega Gargon or an 1056 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,560 Emperor class Titan in close combat. 1057 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,600 Well, there you go. So it's got a movement of 20 1058 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,040 centimeters, saving throw of three, plus close up, close up 1059 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,600 factor of plus 3A Thermal cannon which is 25 centimeters range 1060 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,600 very short. 22 attack dice, 4 plus to hit with a -. 3 save 1061 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,200 modifier and bolters standard 15 centimeters, one attack dice, 6 1062 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,720 plus hit with 0 modifier. So thermal cannon, you got to 1063 00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:28,160 get it there basically better get the rain. 1064 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,440 That's going to be the hardest part, yeah. 1065 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,240 Like. It's it's a great, it's a great, 1066 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,840 yeah, like a heavy town hunter or Titan hunter. 1067 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,760 I don't know that I'd send them into megagorgons and Imperators, 1068 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,560 but you never know. Maybe if there's some damages 1069 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,480 have been done on the way in. But yeah, like it's it's 1070 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,000 absolutely it's the the archetypal melter profile that 1071 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,080 you've seen across, you know, different, different sizes and 1072 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,040 different scales, but it's always you've got to get up 1073 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,640 close. You've got to point blank. 1074 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:55,320 But if it hits, it hits hard. Yeah, yeah, Monastery safe mod, 1075 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,840 very nice. And then having that extra bonus 1076 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,320 on the the damage roll in close combat as well. 1077 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,080 It's interesting. It's only got a close sort of 1078 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,440 three. So the the power fist is not as 1079 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,760 good as the the chain sword in close combat. 1080 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,560 So even doubled on the charge to six. 1081 00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,080 Yeah, You know, I think it's that if you're going Titan 1082 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,840 hunting with them, you're probably going to lose the first 1083 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,400 one or two. But maybe the third one's the 1084 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,520 one that like heroically Avengers his fallen brethren and 1085 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,440 punches through the chassis. But and again, they, you know, 1086 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,920 they you can either get them in sevens or threes, like all, all 1087 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,800 these first three nights piled in the air and the lawn. 1088 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,160 So you can either have a household with seven or you can 1089 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,120 have a sport card of the three. So it's a good bit of 1090 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,480 flexibility there if you want to either, you know, make them the 1091 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,360 predominant force in your army or just have some support cards 1092 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,520 running around just kind of covering the flanks of your 1093 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,000 Titans or providing that kind of that extra support. 1094 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,520 So it's it's another cute chassis. 1095 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,400 I like it. Yeah, me too. 1096 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,480 I. Like it too actually, mate. 1097 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,080 Yeah, OK mate. Well, would you like to do the 1098 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,520 Night Lancer then? Sure. 1099 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,520 So the Lancer's. Weird in so many ways and shape. 1100 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,520 So the Night Lancer is a faster version of the standard Night 1101 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,160 suit. The agile Lancer is used to 1102 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,920 outflank the enemy, scout out their defenses, and distract 1103 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,760 hostile forces while slower units get into position to 1104 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,480 attack. The Lancer is armed with a 1105 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,320 battle cannon so it can duel at long range. 1106 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,280 It also has a special weapon called a Power Lance. 1107 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,920 The Power Lancer is a relatively simple upgrade to the standard 1108 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,480 Night Shock Lance. It works by intensifying the 1109 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,720 bottle of energy from the Shock Glance into a searing arc of 1110 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:20,480 lightning. Though the Power Lance has a 1111 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,760 very short range, its nature makes the Lance perfect for hit 1112 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,400 and run attacks. Like the Shock Glance, the Power 1113 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,440 Lance can only be used if the Lance was on charge orders, 1114 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,400 Though the Power Lance has a short range, so the Lance 1115 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,280 doesn't need to be in close combat to use it. 1116 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,760 The Power Lance is unusual because it's used at the very 1117 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,960 start of the close combat segment, before any close combat 1118 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,760 is resolved. It can be fired at a range of up 1119 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,680 to 15 centimeters, but if the Lancer is in close combat, it 1120 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,000 must be fired at an opponent the model is in combat it's caught 1121 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,600 in contact with. The Power Lance hits on a three 1122 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,520 or more, and is not subject to hit modifiers for cover. 1123 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,520 Hit from a Power Lance has a -. 3 saving through a modifier. 1124 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,400 Once the Power Lancer has fired off its Power Lance, continue 1125 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,960 with the close combat segment as normal. 1126 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,400 Using the Power Lance does not prevent the Lancer doubling its 1127 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480 close assault back through with the Shock Lance, though. 1128 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,160 The Lancer suit is not so well designed for close combat as the 1129 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,600 Night Powered in All the Night Errand. 1130 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,480 So we've got 25 centimeters move. 1131 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,080 So it's 5 centimeters faster, which makes you think it's a 1132 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,680 close combat model. It's got the same three up save, 1133 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,320 which is great. However, it's only got a close 1134 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,640 assault factor of 2. So even on the charge double to 1135 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,160 four that's actually not as high as you'd expect for something 1136 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,080 that's sort of built as a combat Jack. 1137 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,040 But question mark is it. It's got a battle cannon, so 1138 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,160 same as the knight paladin. Everything I've ever said about 1139 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,960 battle cannon supplies here. They are one of the best weapons 1140 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,760 in the game. But bolters again, we've 1141 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,000 discussed that and then it's got this interesting little power 1142 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,720 Lance. So even though it looks like a 1143 00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:46,040 close combat vehicle, it's not. It's kind of a very, very close 1144 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,280 assault, but don't actually get into a fight vehicle. 1145 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,360 So 15 centimeters range. So if you can shoot with a bolt, 1146 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,360 you can shoot with your power Lance hits on the three with the 1147 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,760 -3 save mod. So that's going to be an 1148 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,480 interesting thing of like jockeying for position and 1149 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,080 trying to like get close enough to shoot that off, but maybe 1150 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,640 without actually getting into combat. 1151 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,240 So it's a weird one because it looks like it's the the melee 1152 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:10,200 chassis, but actually the Night Paladin is better in melee. 1153 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,240 So it's it's very odd and it's, it's yeah, it's miniature wise, 1154 00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:17,240 it's taller, it's lanky. It's got this sort of strange, 1155 00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:20,200 like actual Lance sort of strapped to the side of it. 1156 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,080 Like it's a really weird, weird little chassis. 1157 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,800 It's the one I've not played with as much. 1158 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,000 So I think that's the yeah. Like if you're, if you're 1159 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,320 someone that's really good at distance and you're really, you 1160 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,680 enjoy that kind of movement and place, you know, placing your 1161 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,800 models in the right place, dance and you like that kind of high 1162 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,880 risk, high reward strategy. I think the Lance is for you. 1163 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,040 If, if you're a bit more like I like consistency and I like, you 1164 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,160 know, I like my, my, my tactical flexibility that the paladin is 1165 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,320 where it's at. So I think, you know, you'd 1166 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,360 always for my, my money, you'd start with the paladins. 1167 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,760 And then if there is a, you know, a specific mission you 1168 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,280 want to do, you know, that's where you go for the air. 1169 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,200 And, you know, if you get into high armour, if you're going for 1170 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,760 some sort of yeah, that that kind of real clever play the 1171 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,160 night Lancer. But that's definitely one that's 1172 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,760 that's playing on hard mode with the Lancers. 1173 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,240 For my my money, it's a bit more of a tactical. 1174 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,480 Yeah, OK. Yeah, I do agree they're. 1175 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,920 Kind of an awkward looking model. 1176 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,320 I don't particularly like them so much to be like, cynically 1177 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:19,960 they're not. They're not. 1178 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,920 They're not sort of very pleasing on the eye to be 1179 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,280 honest. OK, let's have a look at the 1180 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,960 Night Crusader. I like the name already. 1181 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,480 The heaviest types of the knight made of the forged worlds are 1182 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,960 the Crusader and the Castle, and although slower than the other 1183 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,240 Knights, these two types benefit from substantially increased 1184 00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:37,320 firepower and much thicker armor. 1185 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,560 Because of their great bulk, the Crusader and the Castle and 1186 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,920 cannot move fast enough to generate the charge needed to 1187 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,040 operate a shock Lance. Instead they used in fire 1188 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,240 support in a fire support role, providing heavy weapon cover for 1189 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:53,600 other Knights units to charge in whilst the Crusader and the 1190 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,520 castle and pick off threats to the main force from the rear. 1191 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,560 The common feature of both types in this is the huge shoulder 1192 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,880 mounted Quake Cannon, A modified Titan weapon that can destroy 1193 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,760 Titans and buildings alike. The Crusader supplements its 1194 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,360 Quake Cannon with a twin mounted last cannon for destroying 1195 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,240 armored targets at extreme range. 1196 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:13,600 Coupled with the Knights Crusaders excellent frontal 1197 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,440 shielding, this weapon combination makes a deadly 1198 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,120 support unit. Wow. 1199 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,400 So the night crusader here we go. 15 centimeters move. 1200 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,640 So yeah, quite, quite slow, but A2 plus saving throw, which is 1201 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,520 really good. A close salt factor of plus 1202 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,600 three, which is not bad. The last cannon has a 75 1203 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,600 centimeter range to attack dice 5 plus to hit -2 save modifier. 1204 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,160 The quake cannon is 100 centimeters, one attack dice 3 1205 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,280 plus to hit 1 -, 3 save modifier. 1206 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,720 So yeah, that's a real Titan killer. 1207 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,560 And of course your regular bolt is 15 centimeters to attack 1208 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,160 dice, 6 plus to hit and 0 modify it. 1209 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,600 So I mean, these these things are as good as Magnus the red. 1210 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,640 You get three of them. So yeah, they're very good. 1211 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,960 Well, they're not as good as Magnus the red. 1212 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:04,280 Obviously no one can beat Magnus in terms of how cool that model 1213 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,680 is and the destructive power of his his all seeing eye. 1214 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,240 But yeah, but you know, they're they're pretty good. 1215 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,360 I like the models too. I really like the Crusader 1216 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,160 chassis. I think they look cool. 1217 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,560 Yeah, I'm I'm a. Big fan. 1218 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,560 So these guys don't come in companies, they only come in 1219 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,120 support cards. So you get the three, you don't 1220 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,960 get the the kind of the seven, but I think you know they're 1221 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,240 they're these are your devastators. 1222 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,560 So both the Castellan and the Crusader, you know, they're 1223 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,320 basically very similar profiles, very similar chassis 1 is more 1224 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,760 infantry Focus, 1 is more sort of tank killing, Titan killing 1225 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,080 focus. But they they can kind of do a 1226 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,920 bit of both. And yeah, you know, you just 1227 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,960 want, you know, a little little card of these guys hanging out, 1228 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,800 you know, with a bit of cover or just out on the flanks and just 1229 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,040 causing mischief at that really long range, you know, picking 1230 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,480 off chills, picking off, you know, important cards as the 1231 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,320 enemy closes with you. Yeah, I've used both. 1232 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,000 I love them. That two up save is great. 1233 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,880 And obviously with the shield bonus, they, they can kind of 1234 00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,560 soak up. But you, you feel every loss, 1235 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,760 every time one of these goes down, you feel it because 1236 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,640 they're, they're, they're pretty, yeah, they're pretty 1237 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,240 chunky. 450 points card. You feel that, you know, like, 1238 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,000 yeah, that's, that's, that's an expensive loss when that goes 1239 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,480 down. OK mate, how about the night? 1240 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,360 Castle and then so the castellan the the. 1241 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,960 The the anti infantry version of the above. 1242 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,600 So the external replaces. Oh there's a typo. 1243 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,640 Oh no, the Castellan replaces the Castellan's last cannon. 1244 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,720 I don't think it does, I believe. 1245 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,480 That's supposed to say the. Castellan replaces The Crusaders 1246 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,040 last cannon with a multi barreled autocannon for 1247 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,440 increased firepower. Although only short range when 1248 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,960 fired the hail of shells can cut a sway through the most infantry 1249 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,280 and light vehicle units or stripper Titan of shells in the 1250 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,800 instant. So yeah, it's same 50 centimeter 1251 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,760 move two up, save 3UP calf instead of the last cannon, it's 1252 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,840 got the autocannon. So that's a three shots of 50 1253 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,320 centimeters hitting on fives with a -, 1. 1254 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,440 So just good anti infantry, anti light vehicle. 1255 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,640 You know, if you've got a cult of speed coming out, you if 1256 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,440 you've got a, you know, swarm of hormones, no one's ever going to 1257 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,280 send a swarm of turbans that UC previous podcast. 1258 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,000 But yeah, like that's the kind of thing that's like just a nice 1259 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,440 juicy target or as it says, because it's got the most one 1260 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,960 safe mode, it can take Shields down. 1261 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,160 So if you've got Gargon coming out, you if you've got a Titan 1262 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,720 coming at you, knock those Shields off with the autocannon 1263 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,440 before following. Starting up with the the quake 1264 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,640 cannon for the the killing blow the the 1-2 punch and and again, 1265 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,720 neither of these guys get the Lance rule because they're too 1266 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,520 slow they can't they pull little legs don't move fast enough to 1267 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,480 generate the the energy. So don't throw them into close 1268 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,200 combat. You know close sort of 3 is not 1269 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,640 bad but if these guys are in combat, something's gone awry 1270 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,720 that's why I would say but yeah, I love them I love I love a big 1271 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,560 stompy robot with a massive gun on it. 1272 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,520 That's that's kind of my job. Yeah, yeah, I'm sold in the. 1273 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,040 Bank I'll order, I'll, I'll order, you know, 2 detachments 1274 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,000 of those no problem. And I know exactly the person 1275 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,760 who has them. So I'll have to get in contact 1276 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,440 with him about getting getting a nice night army at some point in 1277 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,880 the future. OK, so to round off with our 1278 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,720 final entry, that's the Baron. The Baron is a leader of a 1279 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:03,040 contingent of Knights and as status demands, every Baron has 1280 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,760 a specially constructed night suit to compliment his razor 1281 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,000 sharp warrior skills. In the field of combat, the 1282 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,280 Baron suit is armed with a power Lance and a rapid file rapid 1283 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,000 fire battle cannon. Its armor is thick and heavily 1284 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,760 worked with scrolling designs and bedecked with streaming 1285 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,000 pennants in the colors of the Baron's estates. 1286 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,600 In battle, the Baron leads and the charges of his Kingsman 1287 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,720 crashing through enemy lines like a bolt of lightning, with 1288 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,160 his followers battling around him with redouble pride and 1289 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,200 further further. So he comes in at a movement of 1290 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,880 25 centimeters, saving through 2 plus again. 1291 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,080 That's nice close off factor of +4. 1292 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,960 He is armed with a battle cannon, so just OK. 1293 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,120 So 75 centimeters to two attack dice, 4 plus to hit -2 save. 1294 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,000 Bolters 15 centimeters, two attack dice, 6 plus to hit with 1295 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,400 zero save, 0 modifier save, sorry. 1296 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,920 And a power Lance 15 seven is 1 dice, 3 plus to hit -3 save. 1297 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,000 So now he comes in as a special card, doesn't he mate? 1298 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,120 Yes, he does, yeah. So if you've, you know, if 1299 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,640 you're, I guess, if you're doing your, your true night household, 1300 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,560 you'd have your, your company of nights, you'd have your Baron as 1301 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,800 a special card. And then you'd pick up a couple 1302 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,720 of, you know, castellans and crusaders as your support cards, 1303 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,120 maybe with some infantry to, to back them up. 1304 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,200 And he's interesting because he's kind of like, what if we 1305 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,480 took a kind of a night paladin and then we stuck a night Lancer 1306 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,760 arm on the side and then we, we gave it the armor of a castella. 1307 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,000 And so he's a, he's a kind of, he nicely represents all the 1308 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,600 different pieces of the, of the, the, the, the different chassis. 1309 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,920 And it's, you know, it's nice to have a kind of, you know, he's 1310 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,960 the king, he's the king or the Baron of the, the castle. 1311 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,640 And he's got his, you know, his super super horse. 1312 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,240 This is like super suit of armor. 1313 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,800 So again, it's that that narrative coming into your list 1314 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,760 building, coming into your gameplay, you know, you can give 1315 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,520 a nice heraldry, a unique banner, you know, and it's it's 1316 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,960 very like, you know, if you paint Bretonians, Knights are 1317 01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:02,240 really good for that same thing of like having those nice big 1318 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,440 flat areas to paint those really cool. 1319 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,360 You know, maybe look up your family heraldry and and put your 1320 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,080 family heraldry onto your Knights and all that kind of 1321 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,480 stuff. So like they really, they really 1322 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,800 are a medieval army brought into the future. 1323 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,240 And instead of Knights on horses, it's Knights riding 1324 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,800 metal robots. But it's that definitely that 1325 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,240 same vibe. So I think they're just, they're 1326 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,360 really cool. And yeah, the Baron just really 1327 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,800 gives you that nice central focal point, that command 1328 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,240 figure. It's, it's interesting because 1329 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,280 like I say, visually it looks a little bit like each of the 1330 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,200 other chassis. It's kind of a little bit of 1331 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,160 everything. And yeah, it's just, it's cool 1332 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,040 to to have that kind of thematic leader center point. 1333 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,520 And he's quite punchy. You know, he's he's yeah, close 1334 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,520 to 4 doubled on the charge because of his Lance rule and a 1335 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,880 double barrel battle can as you get two shots off a battle can. 1336 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,040 And again, taking my favorite weapon and giving me two shots 1337 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,280 with it can only be a good thing. 1338 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,840 So yeah, I like him. I like him. 1339 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,040 Yep. No, he's cool. 1340 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,120 And it gives you like in terms of hobby, like you said, it 1341 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:04,560 allows you to give your models a bit of an elaborate paint 1342 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,800 scheme. You can treat them just like, 1343 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,960 you know, medieval Knights. So in the every metal pages, 1344 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,000 it's got like an imperial Knights section here looking at 1345 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,600 how house Crest and it's got some nice examples of how the 1346 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:23,200 studio did it with their different paint schemes. 1347 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,760 And each one is is looks to be different in some way. 1348 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,080 They've got like some, some differences in the freehand 1349 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,880 emblems and, and heraldry on their leg armor and stuff like 1350 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,640 that. So you can really go to town as 1351 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:41,120 a hobbyist and painter with some really nice unique designs, but 1352 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:46,760 keeping a very sort of cohesive paint scheme in mind and, and 1353 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,880 make your own household. You know, you can just go to 1354 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,160 town and be really creative with it as you would do with a like a 1355 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,000 medieval historical project. It's it's kind of very similar. 1356 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,760 So that's kind of something I'm really looking forward to 1357 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,920 because I do like my, my, my recent Baron's war game. 1358 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,280 So just painting those nights at bald the heraldry. 1359 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,040 This is kind of the same kind of thing. 1360 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,720 Yeah. If you like the Brutonians, 1361 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,520 you'd be, you know, you'd be in 7th heaven. 1362 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,160 I mean, this is just really what it is. 1363 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,920 It's just like Brutonium in Brutonia in Brutonia in space. 1364 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,240 Yeah, Brutonian space. With dinosaurs, With dinosaurs, 1365 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,400 what's it called? Some kind of dinosaur meat or 1366 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,960 something like that? So yeah, you can fry your. 1367 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,080 Steak on the. Barbecue and play your Knights 1368 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,920 and paint them at the same time and have a have a jolly good, 1369 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,760 good time on the battlefield. But are you, are you looking 1370 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,320 for, have you actually painted any of yours, mate? 1371 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,560 Or are you looking for? Yeah, so I've painted. 1372 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,480 My Paladin household and I've painted an extra support card of 1373 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,480 paladins. So I've I've basically I've done 1374 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,560 the equivalent of the the core boys. 1375 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,360 Well, I want to paint the imperator because I want to just 1376 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:58,040 do the the Titan agent core box. So what I did with mine is the 1377 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,320 household I've treated as if they were the kind of the junior 1378 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,200 knight. So the, the, the power of the HQ 1379 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,280 has his bespoke heraldry because he's, he's the, the kind of the 1380 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,000 maybe he's like an older knight that's been trusted to train the 1381 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,480 newbies up. And then the two detachments 1382 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,800 have some amount of his heraldry on their chassis, if that makes 1383 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,120 sense. So, so you know that they're 1384 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:24,280 like his Squires almost. So I red, obviously, because 1385 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,760 everything I paint is red and it's. 1386 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,520 Yeah, it's I'm trying to remember. 1387 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,960 It was so much easier when they were behind me in the cabinets. 1388 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,120 They're in the next room over now. 1389 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,560 But yeah, it's like so like each of them has got like one leg and 1390 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,160 I think one shoulder that's taken from him or something. 1391 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,840 I'll have to dig the photos out, but then my support card, that's 1392 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,400 the kind of the three Knights that are proven leaders. 1393 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:49,920 They've you know, they've they've earned their spurs. 1394 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,920 Maybe their companies got killed or whatever it may be. 1395 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,320 And what I've done with them is each one has then got its own 1396 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,440 unique heraldry because they're the more veteran, more, you 1397 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,880 know, headstrong with more independent Knights. 1398 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,400 And so each of them. And again, it's, you know, it's 1399 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,560 the same as it's the classic, you know, what I think of as the 1400 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,280 only colors for times, which is red with the hazard stripes be 1401 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,120 to be that black and white or yellow and black. 1402 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,560 And it's actually it's house Raven, which is one of the 1403 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,200 houses that's from, if you look into the 40K nights, that's one 1404 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,360 of the houses from there. But I've painted them, like I 1405 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,760 say, the three, the sport cut each one is, is is unique in his 1406 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,960 heraldry. And I've then also done those 1407 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,080 same three nights in Titanica scale. 1408 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,800 So new epic scale for one of a better term. 1409 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,920 I've also then repainted this so exactly the same color scheme 3 1410 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,480 nights palled in for that and I do own 340K scale nights which I 1411 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,920 still haven't even built the damn things. 1412 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,840 If I ever get to doing them, they will also then be paid at 1413 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,800 the same heraldry. So I like that kind of through 1414 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,000 thread of what I could play them in epic. 1415 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,080 I can play them in tight legion. So maybe one day I'll play them 1416 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,080 in 40K. And like I say, it's the idea of 1417 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,960 because they're they're more experienced, they have their own 1418 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,920 personal heraldry, whereas the ones in the households are like 1419 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:01,400 the Squires and the younger Knights. 1420 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,600 And so they haven't earned the right to have their own heraldry 1421 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,760 yet. So they wear their Lord's 1422 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,320 heraldry. That's my kind of thinking on 1423 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,480 how that works. I haven't painted the the other 1424 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,120 Knights yet. Like I, I was like saying at the 1425 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,960 start of the show about having my board and I'm not allowed to 1426 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,479 put stuff on it. I just want to go and paint 1427 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,279 nights. Now I'm like, well, I can't just 1428 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:20,960 throw all the orcs in the bin and just paint. 1429 01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:22,960 It's like what have you. Done. 1430 01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:25,160 Yeah, No, I won't. But like, it would be really 1431 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,000 good to to kind of crack on because, you know, the good news 1432 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,080 is it's not a huge amount of models to paint. 1433 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,319 You know, seven nights for a household, three nights for a 1434 01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:35,720 sport cut. It's not a huge amount. 1435 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,120 The bad news is they're not a lot of models on the table. 1436 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,200 And so like I say, like, you know, when I played with them, 1437 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,520 every single night that you lose, you feel that loss because 1438 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,319 it's such a huge chunk of your force that gets ripped away. 1439 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,040 But yeah, definitely if you're someone that likes your free 1440 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,439 hand, if you like, you know, really inventive color schemes, 1441 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,160 as you're saying, if you like painted Brutonians or historical 1442 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,040 nights, like I think you'll get a real kick out of having that 1443 01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,720 ability. And what's really nice as well 1444 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:04,399 is that the kind of that link between the knight households 1445 01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:06,120 that then serve the Titan groups. 1446 01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,920 So there's, you know, all again, because I can only paint red 1447 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,920 because red is the best colour. Like all my all my Titans are 1448 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,439 legend of Metallica because obviously they're legend of 1449 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,359 Metallica. And I then, you know, partnered 1450 01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:23,560 that with house Raven, who are the Red Knights with the same 1451 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,760 colours. And I like that idea of like you 1452 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,880 can have them match their Titans or if you want instead. 1453 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,479 So, you know, if you look into, you know, the, as you said in 1454 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,880 the color section, the house crossed, they're blue, but they 1455 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,439 are still aligned to Legio and Metallica so that, you know, a 1456 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,920 Legio could have more than one night household attached to it. 1457 01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:43,279 So you can come up with a really, you know, nice 1458 01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,359 contrasting color scheme or just to get that flexibility. 1459 01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:46,680 We are OK. You know, my Titans are in one 1460 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,760 color, my knives are in a different color. 1461 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,160 And you can even go, you know, really wild. 1462 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:55,320 And every single night could be its own completely you like, if 1463 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,080 you want to go for that traditional like 5th edition 1464 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,560 Brittonian thing where every single Brittonian knight had its 1465 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,280 own heraldry in its own colors, you could absolutely do that and 1466 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,160 have an absolutely, you know, riot of color, a really cool 1467 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,280 thing. And I really like that, again, 1468 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,880 the idea of like, each one of these Knights has his own story 1469 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,600 or her own story because they're absolutely female Knights as 1470 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,240 well, has their personal heraldry. 1471 01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:16,960 And you'd kind of, you know, again, like, like the 1472 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,720 fraternities, you'd weave their story into their heraldry. 1473 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,120 So maybe this guy killed a Gargon. 1474 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,480 And so we'd have like, I don't know, a boar's head to represent 1475 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,400 the orc or something like that. And or, you know, he'd killed a 1476 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:28,160 Chaos knight and that would be a dragon. 1477 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,520 And you'd be able to weave that into the heraldry and tell the 1478 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,120 story of that Knight's journey to becoming a knight through the 1479 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,560 colors in the army. So it's definitely a painter's 1480 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,680 army. And yeah, if you know, if you're 1481 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,960 someone who's like, I can't face any more orc clans, I can't 1482 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,560 paint any more tiny little orc teeth, maybe pick up some knives 1483 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:53,560 and do some knives because you're going to be painting 2530 1484 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,840 models. It's a much smaller army. 1485 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,440 And also, yeah, if you've already done a bunch of Titans, 1486 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,960 this is a really good way of. Yeah, I always love that when 1487 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,320 you can paint like half an army and get a whole new army out of 1488 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,480 it because you can bring some of your old army. 1489 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,600 And so you can have your Titans and then supplement them with 1490 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,120 like some small amount of nights. 1491 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,360 And then as you build a build and build slowly, you might 1492 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,560 replace those Titans and go full night, or you might go for the 1493 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,120 combined arms. So yeah, it's just, oh, it's a 1494 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,560 cool army, isn't it? Look what you've done. 1495 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,600 Look what you've done. Josh, you've got me going again. 1496 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,440 I'm your muse there, John, so painting up. 1497 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:28,520 Some nights this. Weekend. 1498 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,800 But yeah, like I say, you can you can import into your squad 1499 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,480 arm you can get because Imperial armies include squad space 1500 01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:40,080 marines, Imperial Guard, so you could have those in your forces 1501 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,120 as well. They're probably the most 1502 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:46,120 flexible armies of the entire game in their in their 1503 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,800 versatility that way. So you could just pick up a 1504 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:55,000 household as a company card and stick that into your into my 1505 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,960 blood Angels, for example, and away I go. 1506 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,800 I can have those. So I think personally, I think 1507 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,400 that's probably the way I'm going to handle it because you 1508 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,880 know, you could look at it like it, it being the space Marine 1509 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,600 army, like you say. I mean, they're even scale at 28 1510 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,360 mil, you know, you know what I mean? 1511 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,320 So when you lose 1 if you, if you play second edition of space 1512 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,320 40K and you lose a space Marine, that hurts, you know, and it's 1513 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,320 the same way with these guys. I wish, I wish space winds had 1514 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,040 like a force field that would never reduce their armour save. 1515 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,080 That would actually be very interesting. 1516 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,080 Isn't it when you when you play? 2nd edition outfit you're like 1517 01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:29,880 why does nothing have an armour save? 1518 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,320 Why does everything just die? Why does the space wind die just 1519 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,720 as quickly as it all like what is happening? 1520 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,920 Yeah it is. It is nice to actually have an 1521 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,040 armour save role, but it almost makes it worse because, yeah, 1522 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,560 like it's have an armour save role that's like not modified 1523 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,040 from the front as well. And then you still roll that one 1524 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,120 and your your cast Ellen goes down and you're like, oh, it's 1525 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,600 150 points just wiped out in one hit. 1526 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,880 Like it's pretty sad. But yeah, man, it is, man. 1527 01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:58,480 Well, John? John, I really appreciate your 1528 01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,520 time on your on your Saturday, mate, coming to talk. 1529 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,640 Don't bother at all. Every all our listeners here. 1530 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,720 I know we've been we've been, you know, itching to get some 1531 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,440 epic on the podcast again. I I really enjoy talking to you 1532 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:14,120 mate, as you know, and we're going to end this segment now 1533 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,400 and we'll come back at another time in the future, we'll 1534 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,160 organize something else we can talk about. 1535 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:24,960 I don't think we've covered the Did we cover the Imperative 1536 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:29,960 Titan before? I don't think we have we. 1537 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,280 Did mega guard so no. We no, in fact, I don't even 1538 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,480 think we've done mega gargons. So yes, we've got mega gargons 1539 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,520 and then also the tech guard, which is the other sort of piece 1540 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,160 of this. So we'll come back to definitely 1541 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,480 those. So yeah, like, yeah, maybe 1542 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,440 people like, say, mini episodes to go. 1543 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,080 I need a podcast. Manager so I need a podcast 1544 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,560 manager so I can ask them a question. 1545 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,800 Have we covered this before in an early episode and they can 1546 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,360 just say yes we have. So this is a. 1547 01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,480 This is a call out to the the The Crown of Command fan base. 1548 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,400 Who's running the Crown of Command wiki? 1549 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,920 Yeah, one of your. Fans must be running a. 1550 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,280 Wiki and has a every time every one of your guests has appeared 1551 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,760 and what they spoke about and where we've got in the book and 1552 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,920 if they haven't thrown down a challenge somebody in the crown 1553 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,120 of command community get on it and start the wiki. 1554 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,320 What's the point of having a fan base if not to create win? 1555 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,920 You don't need a life you. Just need the crown come in. 1556 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:25,360 I mean, it's welcome to the club, but war games made we 1557 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,680 don't have. Lives, what are you talking 1558 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,640 about? So we've got that to cover. 1559 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,160 We've got. The, the, because now we talk 1560 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,160 about battle groups, we've got the tight mission cards. 1561 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,640 We can go through all the mission cards and and go through 1562 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:35,920 all that. And we've got the the crew 1563 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,360 experience, which I'm really interested in in exploring at 1564 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,280 some point with Paul as well. Doing that as a campaign. 1565 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've, we've, we've got, yeah, 1566 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,240 we've got sort of untouched rules and ground to cover there 1567 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,440 in terms of that. And it's very exciting because I 1568 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:54,200 think that's probably the biggest components that Tight 1569 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,520 Legions brought players of Space Marine. 1570 01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,640 They brought you the scope of campaign play and how you can 1571 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,880 increase your tighten experience and make them even even better. 1572 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:05,880 So you've got one for free and then you get you get extra 1573 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,120 bonuses on top of that. Yeah. 1574 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,720 So there you go. You know, I think you need to 1575 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,400 have a word with. AED and be like, what were you 1576 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,760 guys going over there? Like what's Well, actually free 1577 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,720 Titans actually you. Yeah, AED doesn't like Titan. 1578 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,800 Legends, he didn't like Titan Legions, really. 1579 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,640 Yeah, he's been quite publicly open about that. 1580 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,920 He he really loved the Space Marine rules, the original 1581 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,360 rules. And when that Titan Legions came 1582 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,240 in it, it sort of just threw things out. 1583 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,840 And maybe that's probably one of the reasons why he didn't like 1584 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,280 it. All the bigger, bigger, bigger 1585 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,200 Titans and stuff like that gave me a little bit silly. 1586 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,320 But anyhow, look, running out of time and I don't want to be cut 1587 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,440 off again by the Zoom gods. So John, I'm gonna I'm gonna end 1588 01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:44,040 it here, mate. Thank you so much again for your 1589 01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,440 time. I I really appreciate it. 1590 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:48,400 Going to start painting some some some night errands or 1591 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,560 something. Absolutely Post them up on 1592 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,640 Instagram, mate. OK, cool. 1593 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,880 But until next time a friend take care. 1594 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,440 Always a pleasure, mate. Thanks for inviting. 1595 01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:59,200 Me and I can't wait to speak to you again soon about more tiny 1596 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,760 tanks. All right, my friend. 1597 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:01,960 OK, well take. Care until then. 1598 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,800 OK, bye bye, bye bye. 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