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Hello. 
And thank you very much for 

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downloading this episode of the 
crown of command podcast. 

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In today's episode, we're doing 
an interview with one of the 

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members in our community from 
around the world. 

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I hope you enjoyed our little 
interview and our discussions on

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the wonderful games that were 
from the gangsters of error in 

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the 90s, or maybe something that
was inspired by one of those 

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games from the 90s. 
Who knows, you'll have to wait 

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and see. 
But if you would like an 

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interview with me, at some point
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touch with me through either 
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All through my YouTube channel, 
I look forward to hearing from 

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you. 
Okay, well let's get on with the

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episode. 
Hello, Michael. 

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Hello. 
Thanks very much for coming on 

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today. 
I'm just trying to adjust the 

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volume here. 
And can you hear me? 

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Yeah, I can hear you perfectly 
made, okay. 

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All right. 
We're rocking home. 

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And then the time to come and 
talk to us. 

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It straight into it. 
I'm gonna give you the FloorMate

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so you can tell us all about 
your origin story. 

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How you actually got into this 
crazy hobby. 

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Okay, well I'm going to a few 
different things because I'm 

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pretty have a wide range of 
board gaming and miniature 

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gaming, and ccgs, and all that 
stuff tastes video games too. 

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So where do I start? 
I think. 

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So, first of all, I'm 46 right 
now. 

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So when I was a little boy, I 
remember always having board 

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games and for my birthday. 
And for Christmas. 

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And those special times I'd 
always ask for 44 games, didn't 

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really ask for much else, so I 
always had a closet filled with 

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them. 
My first Fantasy game thinking 

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back is probably a game called 
crossbows and catapults. 

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I don't know if you've ever 
heard about yes. 

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Yeah, it was fantastic. 
We had my my parents in their 

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basement that we had what's 
called a four-level split house.

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So in the very This meant, they 
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table tennis table, and it was a
custom one that my dad made. 

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And it was, it was massive. 
It was like four by six, maybe 

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six by eight. 
I can't remember how big it was,

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but we would take the net off 
and make sure it was joined 

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together and we would have these
massive battles of crossbows and

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catapults and and Carolyn rolls 
up and all that stuff. 

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So that was probably my very 
first Fantasy game but I wasn't 

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really really a fantasy or 
sci-fi guy at all. 

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Generally, I got a Cleco Vision.
I think it back in. 81, 82 83. 

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Whenever ColecoVision came out 
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played a lot of venture and that
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fantasy Style game at that point
fast forward to probably about 

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grade 5. 
I was sitting in a classroom and

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one of my friends, I think it 
was great five. 

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I might have my dates all all 
mixed up because it's so long 

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ago, but one of my friends 
sitting behind me during during 

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his kind of break was reading 
one of the Dragon, It's novels, 

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I can't remember which ones they
are but and pretty sure it was 

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the dragon. 
That's not the Forgotten Realms 

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and he lent me those books and I
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were fantastic and I didn't 
really follow up with that at 

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all. 
I didn't get into D and D at or 

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anything until probably around 
grade 7. 

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And then a friend, his name is 
Jeff and he introduced. 

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Well, he, we were in the same 
class and one day, he invited me

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over to his house for lunch 
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the school. 
All that we were going to. 

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And so we walked over to his 
house for lunch, and he had his 

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Commodore 64 and on it was a 
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So we started playing that game 
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led into an invite to come play,
Dungeons & Dragons. 

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I think my very first Dungeons 
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in a school library, just him 
and me, just one offing it over 

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lunch break. 
So then I was kind of got hooked

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in the game. 
He introduced me to access and 

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allies and and, and a few other 
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So at that point grade 7, I was 
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into fantasy. 
Where do we go next? 

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So, from there, so I played did 
a lot of role-playing and stuff.

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For the next few years, we 
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games like Titan and stuff like 
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When My friend, Jeff had always 
told me that he enjoyed 

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something. 
He really enjoyed was He would 

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go to when he was younger. 
He went to this gaming club and 

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he always was talking about this
gaming club that he went to and 

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how much funny hat. 
So when I graduated high school,

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I always had this in the 
bathroom line that I was. 

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Well, I'd always wanted to start
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probably did at that point, I 
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I want to tell us would be an 
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switched gears and college. 
But so we played tons of tons of

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board games. 
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I was 16, so I'm from Southern 
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And I was originally from a 
place called Medicine Hat, which

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is about two and a half hours 
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I'm sure most of you have heard 
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So I was really close to 
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When I got my license to drive a
bunch of us, would go up for the

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weekend and we go to this big 
massive store in Calgary and is 

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called the Sentry box. 
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just tiny because it had an 
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It is today. 
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of so this would have been about
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that time period. 
We were looking at the board 

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games section and I think my 
friend had purchased Cosmic 

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Encounter and then we had also 
purchased, he purchased 

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tightened and not, so you're not
tighten that Talisman. 

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And so then every kind of Friday
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have Talisman and would get, you
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together and point we're 
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playing tell. 
So that was kind of my first 

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introduction to Games Workshop 
itself could have been not. 

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So we continue to roleplay and 
do all that stuff and 1991 out. 

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I played tennis and I was 
playing tennis Summer Games in 

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Alberta and we're in this little
town and it was pouring rain the

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whole weekend. 
So I didn't get to all the 

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matches were cancelled, so I 
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Hey, I'm going to go to the 
local hobby store and that day 

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at that hobby store, Ashley 
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I saw this really cool game on 
the shelf and it was I don't 

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remember the price but But I was
with my ex my girlfriend at the 

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time and she became my ex-wife, 
but I bought it about blood-- 

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bull that that weekend and also 
a game called minion Hunter and 

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which is kind of an obscure 
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But I remember being in, kind of
the hotel room and I'm trying to

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read the rules of blood bullet. 
Just being like that. 

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Like a kid in a candy shop. 
I was, I was pretty enthused 

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about blood wall. 
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getting all my plate, all my 
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Was the second edition. 
So, you know, you play for three

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hours and basically everybody be
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Centre of the pitch and that 
would pretty much the whole 

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game. 
So, yeah, so we got into blood 

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pool at that point, and then I 
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of didn't really do it too much 
gaming, until about nineteen 

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ninety-one ninety-two. 
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I was kind of going to college 
and 92 and I decided to follow 

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up on my, my idea of starting a 
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So I started checking out books.
Locations and seeing how much it

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costs for the, you know, to rent
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So, I put out a feeler, we met 
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There's about 15 of us. 
The start, we started this game 

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club and my idea was that we'd 
play games like Titan and blood 

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bowl. 
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one guy reached out to me and he
was a chat from the United 

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Kingdom. 
His name was Dennis and he said,

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well, you play you play war 
hammer and or do you play epic 

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Space Marine and I'm like, I 
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talking about, so we can invite 
me over to his house and that 

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first time I had met Dennis him.
And another guy, I can't 

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remember the guys name because 
he disappeared, he was a 

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soldier. 
Basically in Medicine Hat, where

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we where I lived a bunch of the 
British soldiers, come every 

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year to train, dude, some dry 
land War training, I guess. 

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And I in a place called set 
field, it's one of our army 

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bases. 
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coming in and they're always 
kind of pawning off their games 

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that they brought over. 
So it was kind of a kind of a 

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cool thing. 
But Dennis had all this epic 

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space rain stuff and all this 
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and and basically that was it. 
I was after I got that. 

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I remember getting the first my 
first white dwarf copy probably 

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April 92 my guess I think it had
the white cover with but the 

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Empire Army book on it if I 
recall correctly and I was hope 

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that that way for sure. 
So Sir playing where Hammer with

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my friend, Dennis. 
And then I started this gaming 

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Club while I didn't start it 
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I probably started around 93 94 
and I was going to play all 

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these games, you know, all these
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But in 1994 magic came out and 
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because I remember going to this
game convention in Calgary who 

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was called calc aunt and my 
friend Jeff and I were going to 

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play, you know, we're gonna play
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and all these other scheduled 
maybe BattleTech and all these 

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Other schedule games and 
everything will schedule game 

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And everybody everywhere was 
pretty much playing Magic the 

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Gathering and we shut our 
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we're not going to play this, 
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play the label. 
So we did that and then kind of 

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regretted it because I think 
that was probably Veda cards at 

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that point or unlimited for sure
that were available. 

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So I started my club and then 
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As we started, Dennis came out, 
we played a little bit. 

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Hammer. 
But as magic kind of grew and 

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grew in our local area, you 
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getting 100, people at the 
gaming club and basically was 

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how it worked is every Tuesday 
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People would come. 
We managed to secure this 

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facility at the local Red Cross.
And the deal for the, for the 

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club was I would pay them $10 a 
month Canadian, which is absurd 

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when you think about it, they 
would set up all these tables 

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and chairs in a large kind of 
banquet room and we could Come 

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in as long as we'd kind of 
tidied up, we didn't have to put

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away the chairs or the tables or
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They took care of everything. 
So $10 a month and my decision 

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was okay, so everybody who comes
has to pay a dollar, and once we

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have fifty dollars in the pool 
will make a draw, but you have 

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to use that money to buy some 
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And then when Word of Mouth 
started, getting that we had all

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this, you know, this, this great
facility for gaming ever having 

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anywhere from 50 to 120 people, 
come on a Tuesday night, it was 

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it just kind of ballooned and, 
and it wasn't like, it wasn't 

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the, I didn't even make it a 
non-profit agent, but I just, I 

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just made an Excel spreadsheet, 
or probably wasn't excelled at 

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gun and just started tracking, 
all the money. 

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So, about a year in, we had all 
this, all these funds. 

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They actually transferred us to 
our bait, their basement and as 

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we're in the basement, and The 
the room is like double the size

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as before and Dennis kind of get
got mad at me because all these 

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magic people would be taking up 
all the space and we have no 

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place to put a Warhammer 
anymore. 

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So who's he was kind of? 
So as we got my to the basement 

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then we can start playing where 
Hammer again, but I remember 

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once going to to the store in 
Calgary, there was a gaming 

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store, love, local gaming store,
as well. 

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But we went there and I think I 
had like 1,200 dollars to spend 

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and we bought copies of Epic 
space. 

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In of Warhammer fantasy, you 
know, other board games, we were

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just basically picking stuff off
the shelves and one Saturday, we

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ran a bingo tournament. 
Like it was like two dollars for

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your bingo card and the winner 
would get like a copy of Epic 

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Space Marine. 
It was, it was just a Glory 

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Days. 
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there since 1997. 
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the province. 
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my girlfriend at the time, who 
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transition to fifth? 
What I met Dennis and played. 

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My first game of fantasy, it was
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games, two, maybe, three games. 
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there so sorry. 
Keep going listening to your 

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story, man. 
That's great. 

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So now, they need time. 
Like, I met my wife. 

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I know you threw your channel. 
You have any Michael Becker 

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Channel on YouTube? 
Yeah, I think I think the first 

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time I saw one of your video is 
was during the lockdown when 

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your Making those fourth edition
Battle reports with your son. 

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And when thank you, were the 
first person to ever make a 

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video battle port on 4th edition
fantasy. 

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overwhelmed to see someone 

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actually making these videos 
that I've been following you 

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ever since, and then the, and, 
you know, all the, all the 

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battle course, that came after 
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campaign you started, would you 
like to talk about what you've 

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been doing on the channel 
yourself, or those videos and 

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those games Earth. 
So originally when I started my 

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YouTube channel, I had no idea 
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I'd always decided I wanted a 
girl GoPro and I wanted to 

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fiddle around with that. 
So I bought a GoPro Hero 7. 

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I don't know if I can totally 
recommend that camera. 

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It's the battery overheats, 
unfortunately, so it can cause 

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problems. 
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of hobbies. 
So, other than games I like to 

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play lots of sports like tennis 
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hockey. 
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So, but what we were doing is we
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had as a kid but this was, we 
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Something called HO scale slot, 
cars. 

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Have you ever heard of this slot
car? 

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 
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and again, on our ping-pong 
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up, we would set up this track 
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ping-pong table. 
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probably an 78 79. 
In 77 so but I have friends over

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we play Rod hockey and we play 
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maybe a year and a half ago I 
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all these digital slot cars. 
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shop, local hobby shop, probably
getting balsa wood for, for some

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kind of train project or 
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And there was this Consignment 
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was 1/32 scale cars. 
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attrex cars, but it was 
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cars that. 
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to take all my board game 
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then I'm going to ask them if 
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league for four slot cars. 
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about 15 guys and we would get 
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and we'd race these lockers. 
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bought my GoPro 4. 
And that's originally kind of 

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all the videos were slot cars. 
And I decided to Branch. 

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Oh, I'm also the commissioner of
our local boy boldly. 

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And I've been doing that for 
about seven years, my interest 

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in blood Bowl, is this funny? 
It's really excited that it 

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wanes and then gets really 
excited. 

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So, I've been doing that and 
then I've done, I did some blood

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Bowl videos and tried with time 
lapse options and the videos are

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great. 
But I'm just, I'm learning and 

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I'm kind of a hack at all this 
stuff. 

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So then we started with the 
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My son and I were like, well 
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Like, I'd go play games with 
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We stopped doing that. 
So I'm like, look here and why 

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don't we start playing? 
We're Hammer fantasy battle and 

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and we had played in that group.
Mind ad was paid call. 

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Kim Bible and all those other 
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and other their style games and 
Karen was on board. 

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My oldest son of got a 72 year 
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don't really want to do that. 
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fourth edition which is kind of 
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it to be honest. 
Now that I've watched some of 

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your videos, Joshua. 
Fifth edition. 

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I kind of Wonder question. 
My choice was it the right thing

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to go to 4th edition? 
Probably not 5th edition is a 

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more comprehensive real set like
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I do like the fourth edition. 
Now, to accept do better. 

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The one thing I might change 
with magic is to just maybe tone

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down the magic because we're 
playing in small point games 

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and, and basically help how the 
format evolved of this kind of 

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mini campaign. 
And I hope to continue it, but 

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we're just having computer 
technical Problems lately with 

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DaVinci Resolve. 
I can't get it working on my 

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laptop so I need a new computer 
with with this whole kind of 

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format. 
Is when was that when did the 

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sixth edition? 
Who mowed? 

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I don't know. 
Probably 2004. 

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Yeah, tomorrow morning. 
So I'd like I was playing a lot 

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of board games like, you know, 
starting with Settlers of Catan 

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and just going through the gamut
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So so I'm kind of dabbling in 
Magic. 

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I'm dabbling in In Epic. 
And my didn't really play epic 

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for a long time. 
But dabbling in blood Bowl, 

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another miniature games and 
dabbling in lots of board games.

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So those are kind of kind of 
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those Hobbies. 
When I when I moved to Regina 

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here shortly after I had met, 
you know, a new group of people,

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I actually reform my gaming Club
here and we would meet at a 

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German club in the basement. 
We play board games, but around 

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2008 2009. 
I decided that I wanted to, I 

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was missing where a fantasy and 
I wanted to play it again so I 

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set up a club here and started 
playing we started playing I 

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think it was 6th edition so I 
made up this huge campaign 

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system and basically was taking 
stuff from neck, reminder Bible 

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and other kind of campaigns and 
wrote up the system, so that 

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somebody with a 500-point army, 
could play a game against the 

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1500 Point Army and hopefully 
have a competitive battle. 

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And you kind of use the blood 
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know, maybe stuff from mighty 
Empires and kind of every source

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that the generals compendium 
from other editions. 

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So I basically just pulled in 
every Source I had and started 

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making this this massive 
campaign being start with 500 

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points. 
Those base points would stay the

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same and then you'd also role 
for some territories and you'd 

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have territories kind of like 
like neck remind of first 

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edition maybe the most recent 
Edition as well you have some 

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territories, they Would bolster 
your forces and then when two 

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people played against each 
other, they would roll for a new

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territory and they both have to 
answer your territory and that's

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just going back to original 
magic for me, because I really 

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like the concept of Auntie. 
So yeah, you did. 

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And then the winner would get 
would get to pick whichever 

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territory they wanted, or they 
could keep their own, and then 

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the loser was supposed to get 
the other one. 

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So that's kind of the format 
we're going to use but it was, 

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It was kind of tweaked for sixth
edition and I kind of have to go

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back and revise it for four. 
Fifth edition and I haven't 

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quite done that. 
But I have tons of templates 

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like all the monsters, going 
back to even going back to some 

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of the Third Edition monsters. 
I like really being inclusive 

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when I made this league and I 
wanted to have as many people 

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filled as many different types 
of troops from all the ranges of

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where Hammer at that point. 
So so yeah, if you want to put a

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dragon in your skaven army, you 
know, if you got the right 

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territory, you can do so. 
So it's interesting, so glad 

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that you made this video. 
But no one's really representing

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these kind of Arrow of games on 
YouTube, which is really quite 

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strange. 
Because so many people like 

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yourself, like I'm the same age 
as you it. 

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So many of us came up through 
through Games. 

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Workshop at that time, playing 
Harry, he requests or board 

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games, and getting to the games 
which are hobby. 

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So, it's really quite strange 
that no one's actually picked up

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on that and then started playing
games on YouTube or on blogs or 

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something. 
Nothing, isn't that very little 

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content out there? 
I was on Facebook, of course. 

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We know there's some groups out 
there. 

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Now, that's sort of dedicated 
towards that kind of hobby, but 

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I think there's a bit of a 
Resurgence in the last six 

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months or so and more and more 
people sort of finding out about

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these kind of groups and these 
kind of videos and sort of 

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latching on and getting to play 
these old games. 

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Again, you find it so funny that
as well in your area as well. 

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Well, see, I haven't tried to 
actively recruit I met. 

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So I have dabbled. 
When, of course, when the old 

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world kind of Crashed and 
burned. 

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I didn't really play a lot of 
7th edition. 

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I think I played maybe one or 
two games, the 7th and I had not

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ever play Dave, even though I 
kind of can continue to collect,

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you know, the Army books and 
stuff like that. 

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Just as a fact, I have every 
edition of Warhammer from first 

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through eighth and a fantasy. 
I have a lot of 40K stuff but 

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it's funny. 
I didn't really ever get into 

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40K. 
I always liked that big way 

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better than 40 case, but yeah, I
totally, With you like these. 

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Like it was anti-facebook. 
I used to have a Facebook 

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account under my own name and 
then yeah I just said just close

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that off and then decided Well, 
you know what, I kind of miss, 

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you know, some of the groups and
some of the things that are 

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going on at Facebook and seeing 
what's going on in local scene. 

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So, I kind of created this 
ridiculous name and rejoined 

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Facebook, kind of no, no, no. 
And I really enjoy these, you 

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know, the old Hammer group, the 
middle Hammer group, Another 

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Hero, Hammer groups. 
They're just, they're great. 

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I love looking at him and 
saying, what everybody's doing 

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and painting, let's not get into
paint. 

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I think train. 
I'm not prolific. 

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I don't make a lot of train 
actually, but I just, I super 

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enjoy it if I sit down and like,
okay, I want to make a board 

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today, you know, A to B 2 foot 
board. 

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You know, I'll go and do it. 
And if done that for Lord of the

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Rings that done lots of big 
boards for blood blow and stuff.

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And I love making train but 
painting models. 

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I don't know if I'm lazy, I 
don't know if I'm I think what 

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it really boils down to is I 
loathe painting and it's not 

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like I'm a terrible painter but 
I think my standards for 

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painting or so high and I'm just
not willing to put the time and 

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effort into painting water to 
get it there. 

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I don't pay. 
A lot of my own figures but I 

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like using painted figures and 
nicely painted figures. 

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So that part of the Hobbies 
sometimes expensive. 

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There's a figure painter. 
I have he's, I have a lot of 

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guys that paint models for me 
off and on, as I have spare 

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cash. 
But there's this one painter, I 

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have and he lives in the United 
Kingdom and he sent me a note 

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the other day, which is kind of 
funny. 

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His actual name, is it okay for 
me to drop names and Catering? 

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So he's he goes by exhales 
painting in his name's James 

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brood. 
And and I think it was 11 years 

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ago, I first reached out to him 
and said I was kind of looking 

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for people to paint. 
Maybe a unit of I think was a 

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squad of blood Bowl to be 
honest. 

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My first kind of, I wanted some 
commissions and nice painters 

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and James reached out to me and 
I think he's been painting 

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models off and on on my Empire 
Army and blood pooling the other

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things through 11 or 12 years 
now. 

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So it's really cool. 
The only problem is Adding 

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anything from Canada, the United
Kingdom, right now is its, I 

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don't know what the cost of 
postage is just gone through. 

445
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,300
Like a, I can sympathize I like 
probably preaching to the choir 

446
00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:08,500
because you're I don't know what
the prices are in Japan, but I 

447
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,900
know you're from Australia and 
Lord, I had, I can't even 

448
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:15,200
imagine what the price is. 
There are compared to here, but 

449
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,500
yeah, it was crazy. 
My private part postage prices 

450
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:23,100
in Australia, crazy. 
Japan's really reasonable. 

451
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,200
Oh well, I think, yeah, really 
reasonable. 

452
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,500
Yeah. 
I was really quite surprised how

453
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:29,800
cheap it is actually to post up 
out of here. 

454
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:35,500
So so yeah, I don't paint a lot 
of my models that actually, you 

455
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:39,900
know, I was sitting on when 
kings of War launched when it 

456
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:42,800
was added almost 10 years ago 
to, I kind of bought in pretty 

457
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,900
heavy on the kickstarter. 
And I had this that the undead 

458
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:49,900
Army set. 
And so, I don't know, like, a 

459
00:25:49,908 --> 00:25:52,800
couple months ago. 
I finally took that box out of 

460
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,200
storage. 
Shin and built up, like not all 

461
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,100
of them. 
But most of these zombies and 

462
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:04,700
Google's and skeletons and I 
have to say I painted a 25 unit 

463
00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:08,400
of zombies, you know, I did a 
pretty quickly too and they 

464
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,400
don't look terrible. 
So that was kind of my last 

465
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,500
painting for a to be honest. 
So yeah, that's good. 

466
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,600
At least you got this guy sort 
of fully employed now in 

467
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,200
England. 
So it's going to be very happy 

468
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,700
about that incorrectly. 
Which I think is just 

469
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,100
hammering out and my son and I 
watched you paint the chaos Tour

470
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,600
ball Center the other day and 
all that stuff. 

471
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,800
So, yeah, your paintings, great,
thanks. 

472
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:56,200
This is really fantastic stuff 
out there, especially on the 

473
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,800
hero have a group so if people 
haven't or don't know anything 

474
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,200
about it and there is a group 
dedicated that Me Myself and 

475
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,200
Michael. 
And many other people are part 

476
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,600
of that has some really 
fantastic stuff every day, I 

477
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,600
feel every day. 
Something new is coming up there

478
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,500
and, and more, and more people 
are joining the group and 

479
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,600
showing off their Collections. 
And that sort of, that sort of 

480
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,500
things, it's really quite 
encouraging to see that. 

481
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,100
Yeah, it's awesome to see 
people. 

482
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800
I just want to play fifth 
edition and I watched your games

483
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,700
on the Warhammer Renaissance as 
well. 

484
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:31,200
You know, that game and and some
of your other games and and yeah

485
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,200
just just enjoying all the 
content. 

486
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,100
And you know, if people have a, 
you know, good cellphone or not 

487
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:40,300
even and and want to start doing
YouTube videos, go for it. 

488
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:42,600
You know. 
Yeah I love that stuff. 

489
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,500
I think all of us. 
Yeah well I just keep saying to 

490
00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:47,600
people. 
I'm just using my iPhone. 

491
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,200
It's an idea Nate. 
I'm the most unfit. 

492
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,100
Unsophisticated guy with 
technology. 

493
00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:55,800
You know, I've said that many 
times, I don't know anything 

494
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,900
about it. 
It's surprising that everything 

495
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,800
sort of worked so far. 
Nothing sort of broken down to 

496
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,900
this point. 
But yeah, I'm sort of relying on

497
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,700
the kind of very Meek Tech that 
I've got here. 

498
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,700
So yeah, like anybody can do it.
I just bought like a ten-dollar 

499
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:13,900
stand. 
That's like a flexible sort of 

500
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:20,000
camera stand from Amazon and 
it's got a camera, you know, the

501
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,700
internet, you know, your sort of
all set really, and you can just

502
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:26,500
sort of do Anything you like no 
I think and I think social media

503
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:30,100
nowadays facilitates for people 
who want to do live streaming 

504
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:32,300
I'm just started doing live 
streaming ever done it before 

505
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:35,600
and it sort of has a she sort of
opened up a new world for me in 

506
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,100
that regard. 
And that I can do a lot more 

507
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:43,000
stuff for what longer less 
editing time, I can actually 

508
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,300
play games here, remotely now in
my room where I could never have

509
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:48,900
thought of doing that years and 
years ago. 

510
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:51,700
So, yeah, I mean, you know, 
hopefully, it's going to inspire

511
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:54,100
other people like yourself too. 
Michael that, you know, they're 

512
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:56,600
going to get their act together 
and think. 

513
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,400
Okay, well guys, we can do 
something like this. 

514
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000
We can do something in our own 
area and, you know, producing 

515
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,400
content for other people. 
So they get them inspired and we

516
00:29:04,408 --> 00:29:08,000
sort of get this sort of Rolling
Along slowly but surely and 

517
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400
then, you know, we're sort of 
building a big Community out 

518
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,100
there. 
Yeah, it's really good. 

519
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:16,000
Spewing, still scares me. 
I don't know how I do it. 

520
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:21,400
The problem is, is my house is 
man, I have so much game stuff 

521
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,700
and stuff. 
When I was married, I had an 

522
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:27,000
ounce of monster house and now I
have a house. 

523
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,200
So, third of this size and I 
don't have a dedicated table in 

524
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,600
my basement to, you know, to 
dedicates a game. 

525
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,000
So, it's our kitchen table. 
So we have to do a log 

526
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,900
everything upstairs, set it up, 
and it's a chore but it's been 

527
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,700
fun for sure. 
And I hope to 22. 

528
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:50,200
So currently we have I think six
RVs in play. 

529
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,200
I'm hoping to get it to nine 
soon, so, As soon as I get my 

530
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,900
technology issues sorted will 
start having out some games 

531
00:29:57,900 --> 00:29:59,700
again. 
And I know some of my friends 

532
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:03,300
are interested in maybe joining 
because they see you know they 

533
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:06,300
can always want to play. 
You know that battle for mug, 

534
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:09,100
Throne passed the came in the 
fourth edition starter. 

535
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,200
I think it was written by the 
element. 

536
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,500
We've went through that. 
But honestly, I've played that 

537
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:16,700
scenario. 
Probably, I don't know, probably

538
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:20,400
10 times in my life, at least 
I've played it with fourth 

539
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,000
edition, fifth edition sixth 
edition rules. 

540
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:26,100
Cause I didn't play seventh but 
I played it with even Kings of 

541
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,600
War rules. 
Like, I love that scenario and 

542
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,200
it's a low model, count infrared
for a convention, you know, to 

543
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,000
set up a quick game of 
Warhammer. 

544
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,100
It's perfect. 
It's, it's the perfect game I 

545
00:30:38,108 --> 00:30:41,400
think in the perfect scenario 
and, and I just love that 

546
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,000
scenario of yours on your 
channel. 

547
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,000
Yeah, I don't think from memory 
though, I never played it, so 

548
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,700
should you? 
Mushroom, maybe we can do it 

549
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:56,400
together. 
Remote play here. 

550
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,100
If you want to, as I was talking
to you before about doing a 

551
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:03,300
local Remote Play Session, maybe
we can do it here and I've got 

552
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,400
the oven gloves. 
I just need the High Elves. 

553
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,200
At some point. 
They went to get them paint up. 

554
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,600
We should do it. 
Together metal be awesome? 

555
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,100
Yeah, for sure. 
So, I've got a question for you.

556
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,400
I love board games, I've 
collected board games my whole 

557
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,200
life and and I do, you do play 
board games, trust fund. 

558
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,100
And if you do what favorite, 
well, that's a good question, 

559
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:27,000
actually, because, yeah, I 
actually got into this hobby 

560
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,900
through a board game, that was 
her request and proper, you 

561
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:33,800
know, about that most famous 
fantasy Dungeon Crawl ball. 

562
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Games are there is in history, I
think. 

563
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600
But that sort of got me, that 
was like, the gateway drug for 

564
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,800
me, into the whole gangs were 
shopping, painting minutes. 

565
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,300
Is and fantasy gaming. 
So I actually just recently 

566
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:50,800
acquired that know about a year 
and a half ago from a guy here, 

567
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000
locally. 
Yeah, so yeah. 

568
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,800
I was very, very happy to get 
that back again. 

569
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,000
So that's probably my all-time 
favorite game. 

570
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600
And I think S 2. 
That would be Advanced he 

571
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,600
requests. 
Okay. 

572
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,700
I've had the privilege of now 
playing twice in the last two 

573
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:09,700
weeks. 
I'm going to play again, 

574
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,700
tomorrow. 
Nice. 

575
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,900
Cuz I bought that game. 
I still remember I still vividly

576
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,600
remember walking into this the 
game store this is when it was 

577
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,700
first released. 
They had like a massive pile of 

578
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,200
it right in the middle of the 
store, like a huge stack of them

579
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,900
and I grabbed one of those 
bought. 

580
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:29,500
It took it home and the guys 
that I was gaming with their 

581
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:30,900
time, just weren't interested in
it. 

582
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:34,600
I just never played it. 
And I just hang, I hang on, hang

583
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,400
on to it for like, you know, 
many many years later and just 

584
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,100
sort of dreamed of playing the 
game. 

585
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Never got a chance. 
Then I started collecting Tingly

586
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,500
all the metal scape and models 
for the scenario for that shadow

587
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:49,700
down bullet. 
Right then painting, those are 

588
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,100
dreaming about playing at them. 
Got a couple guys, to calm them 

589
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,600
basically into playing with me. 
We played for a couple of 

590
00:32:56,608 --> 00:32:59,900
sessions and then we didn't 
least then adjust the band of 

591
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:02,100
the whole whole thing and we 
just didn't get back together 

592
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:05,400
again, so I'm finally playing it
after all these years with these

593
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,300
two guys or three guys. 
Now some really enjoying 

594
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,600
absolutely love that game. 
I think. 

595
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,300
Yeah. 
Think so I think dungeon crawls 

596
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,400
are probably my favorite. 
I've still got tell us one 

597
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,200
second edition here. 
Yeah that's probably worth an 

598
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,100
absolute Fortune out on eBay. 
If you have to do the plant and 

599
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,700
I think that's still holds holds
up for sure. 

600
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:27,800
So I don't know if you got that 
one or not which ones are the 

601
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,900
dragon expansion for second 
edition, was the phone with 

602
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:33,600
dodging that they launched. 
And I don't think many people 

603
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,900
own that coffee. 
So yes. 

604
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:46,700
Gin and I've got the Timescape 
one like the TSR dungeon. 

605
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:50,500
You mean Yeah. 
Oh no, dungeon for Talisman 

606
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:52,300
second edition. 
Yeah, for sure times. 

607
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:54,900
We've been bending. 
Yeah, this is the city. 

608
00:33:54,900 --> 00:34:05,100
And yeah, my favorite game is 
probably magically. 

609
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,300
Get another intern has probably 
going to make a lot of these 

610
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:12,900
your viewers grown, and I think 
like Ting. 

611
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:14,400
Well, I didn't collect right 
away. 

612
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:20,900
I got into magic and traditions.
So, And over the years, I kind 

613
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,000
of went back and try to build 
some nuts. 

614
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,900
So I have a little bit Alpha 
cards a little bit of beta 

615
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:30,400
cards, some unlimited and then 
have a lot of assets of the 

616
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,400
early days that I went back and 
got. 

617
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,300
So now just might be my favorite
overall game but my favorite 

618
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:40,199
board game is probably Euphrates
and Tigris. 

619
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:41,199
I don't know if you've heard of 
it. 

620
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:42,500
It's Bi-Rite Market needs. 
Yeah. 

621
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:45,100
These are very prolific game 
designer. 

622
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:49,199
Who is originally from Germany? 
I don't know if you know about 

623
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,600
his background that he was, I 
think he was the head of a 

624
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,900
German bank and he always 
dabbled in board games and he 

625
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:01,400
moved to the UK and I think quit
that job and became a full-time 

626
00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:07,100
board game designer, and very 
prolific in his game designs and

627
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:10,600
that's got to be probably my 
favorite board game. 

628
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:15,900
It's it came out. 
I think in 98 I still play it, 

629
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:20,000
whatever I can so but I have I 
have so many board games judge 

630
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,200
luck. 
I've been sold and purchased. 

631
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,800
And when I went through a 
divorce, I kind of started 

632
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,200
buying stuff on eBay, Germany. 
Like all this, there's a there's

633
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,900
a word for board games called 
this field. 

634
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:35,400
Ajar, and the torture Spiel pre 
and probably butchering those 

635
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,800
names, but I would follow 
everything on. 

636
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:42,900
I could on board games and would
buy them from Germany. 

637
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:44,600
EV Germany. 
I didn't say, I don't speak 

638
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:50,100
German, you know, my lunch. 
He's a translator and kind of do

639
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,100
English and German and both and 
they'd usually get the gist. 

640
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:56,000
The funny thing is with all 
these games in Germany and there

641
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,100
was kind of a gaming Renaissance
that flipped over to the to 

642
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:02,400
North America and Europe and 
board games really popular 

643
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,900
because of their early German 
games. 

644
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:08,100
To be honest, around 93 94, 95 
with especially when settlers 

645
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:11,600
blew up. 
And yeah, so I would buy the 

646
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,500
games because all these fields 
are winners, they they're kind 

647
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:17,100
of available in their 
brick-and-mortar stores and 

648
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,500
people buy them. 
They put them on eBay so I'd get

649
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:23,500
the game for like 100 back then.
And then over I remember it was 

650
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:28,800
always 1342 ship the game. 
So it's like 13 times more than 

651
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:31,900
just get the game here, but 
yeah, when I went through the 

652
00:36:31,908 --> 00:36:35,300
worst, that's, you know, I 
didn't I didn't do a lot of wild

653
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:36,800
things, but I bought a lot of 
fun. 

654
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:07,400
I'm going to give you a 
recommendation because I think 

655
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,200
you said Your son's three and a 
half. 

656
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,800
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

657
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,300
If you can find a game it's 
called Monster Factory. 

658
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:17,600
It's by the same person who 
made, I believe the same person 

659
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,200
who made Dominion. 
I don't know if you heard a 

660
00:37:19,207 --> 00:37:21,600
Dominion minions a colored 
building, you do. 

661
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:24,700
Yeah. 
Highly recommend that game. 

662
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,900
I've introduced, I came to lots 
of children and probably from 

663
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:35,400
ages 4 through 15 and I guess 
teams and every single kid likes

664
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,000
that game and if they're not 
playing it they're taking the 

665
00:37:38,008 --> 00:37:41,200
tiles out and making monsters 
because that's kind of the theme

666
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,500
of the game. 
So, hot monster Factory is by 

667
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:47,100
Rio Grande games, and I 
recommend that one for children 

668
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:48,200
or chicken. 
Cha-cha-cha. 

669
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:51,000
But that's probably when your 
son gets just a little bit 

670
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000
older. 
So those would be really good 

671
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,400
children's game. 
I know. 

672
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,300
I know the the game develops was
listening to the D6, generation 

673
00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:02,300
for a long time here. 
Don't know those names, like Rio

674
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:03,900
Grande games and what kind of 
thing. 

675
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,100
So, yeah, the, the 
manufacturers, or the game 

676
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:10,500
designers ourselves, I know sort
of familiar with the names. 

677
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,400
I've not played it, but I know 
that, you know, board games in 

678
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,000
Japan, he's actually quite 
popular Hobby. 

679
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:20,500
Probably because of the space 
restrictions and that kind of 

680
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:22,900
thing in Japan. 
I think board games defensive, 

681
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:27,500
and, and a lot of a lot of those
games actually produced in 

682
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:30,300
Japanese or the translated in 
Japanese for the Japanese 

683
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:31,700
Market. 
Sure. 

684
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:35,000
I just haven't had the 
opportunity of actually going to

685
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,200
any of these big and board games
days is Big meetups 

686
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,700
unfortunately. 
But I think the last game The 

687
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:46,400
Last Kickstarter I did that was 
like really excited about 

688
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,700
getting and I finally got it. 
It was Joan of Arc and okay, 

689
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:54,700
definitely, that that wasn't was
that it does that by kill many 

690
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:58,200
or not, or was that b else it? 
We can't remember those point, 

691
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:07,500
we think it's interesting 
through my, through my game club

692
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:13,700
here, so it'd probably be about 
11 years ago. 

693
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:18,700
I went on a little camping trip 
in the summer and The winter 

694
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:21,000
place and it was it's called 
Fort wolves. 

695
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,200
And sorry my son's just in the 
background he's just rummaging 

696
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,800
through food because that's what
boys do click Karen. 

697
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,500
Okay. 
Anyways, so so we went to this 

698
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:37,100
place called Fort Walton and 
basically it was the history of 

699
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:47,100
basically, 1890, 1880s, kind of 
history in the Canadian once and

700
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,700
I And of we went on a tour and I
was kind of fascinated. 

701
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:54,800
So at that time, I was going to 
going through some problems and,

702
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,200
and when I came home, I had this
great at this idea. 

703
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,800
And I was going to make this 
game that was about the real 

704
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,100
history of western Canada and 
North and North kind of 

705
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:09,900
northwards the United States and
why I started doing a lot of 

706
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,800
research and it was basically 
the extraction of Sitting Bull 

707
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,700
from Canada back to the United 
States. 

708
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,300
So this would have happened 
after a tester, you know and all

709
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:19,500
that stuff. 
And I just became completely 

710
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:23,700
enthralled and in the activities
that went on and growing up in 

711
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:28,100
Canada, you know, there's maybe 
a few paragraphs of all this 

712
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:31,700
history, but it was so important
to the country and to our 

713
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:33,900
sovereignty as a nation and all 
this stuff. 

714
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:38,600
So, I created this game and it's
kind of tentatively labeled 

715
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,400
whiskey Traders because that's 
really was the Catalyst of all 

716
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000
this. 
When the United States, these 

717
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,000
Traders from the United States 
came to Canada, they were 

718
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,600
selling Whiskey to the First 
Nation people, because the to 

719
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,700
kind of loosen them up for 
trading and then they would kind

720
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:59,100
of swindall these bison hides, 
which they could ship back down 

721
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:02,100
to the States for immense 
profits. 

722
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:07,100
So, then something bad happened 
at this new. 

723
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:11,600
This fort Walsh. 
We're two of two of the Traders 

724
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,800
thought they had First Nation 
tribe. 

725
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,600
It stole some of their horses. 
They went into the camp and 

726
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200
slaughtered everybody. 
All this stuff. 

727
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,500
So I made this game called 
whiskey Traders. 

728
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:24,700
It's about the First Nations. 
But, yeah, I'm getting a game 

729
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,500
published, especially if it's 
kind of a mirror trash game. 

730
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:30,600
It's got kind of elements of 
blood bowl and Euphrates, and 

731
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,400
Tigris, and Robo, rally, and all
these kind of things. 

732
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,500
He's got a huge component count,
and it's very historical. 

733
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:38,700
And the game doesn't pull any 
punches at all. 

734
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:42,000
It's like, you know, it's got 
cards of smallpox in this stuff 

735
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,200
and, and getting it published as
it's hard. 

736
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,000
But the reason why I kind of 
went into that is because Was 

737
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:53,100
this man in my who was from 
Australia. 

738
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:56,300
He was living in Canada for a 
little while, and his son was 

739
00:41:56,300 --> 00:42:00,200
playing hockey in Australia, so 
he moved back to Australia and 

740
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,800
he told he told, one of the 
designers he was at, I think, is

741
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:11,500
it can Con in can find it so 
they can con and Matt? 

742
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,400
Oh man, I can't remember his 
name Peter. 

743
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,600
He's, he's made a whole I can't 
believe I forgot his name. 

744
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:21,300
Who is he mentioned this and 
then all of a sudden I Peter 

745
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:25,000
made Francis Drake is one of the
games. 

746
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,300
I can't remember the name of the
food because this is five years 

747
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:33,200
ago already but so Peters looked
at my game but he's a doctor 

748
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,800
also. 
So he kind of only publishes 

749
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,400
like so I've had it with, it's 
been in gmts hands and it's just

750
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,200
so hard to get published 
because, you know, I think 

751
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:47,300
Joshua if I could change my 
theme over to some kind of 

752
00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:50,600
space. 
Your fantasy isn't funny but it 

753
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,900
really, yeah, I don't want to 
tell this history and I think it

754
00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:58,800
needs to be told that especially
in the world today, you know, 

755
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,600
because their atrocities that 
happened, you know, in Canada 

756
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,300
and its with the Manifest 
Destiny, a lot of stuff and it's

757
00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:07,700
a game, you know, if you like 
two axes and allies, if you 

758
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:10,900
like, you know, those dice 
rolling games, you probably 

759
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:15,000
really like whiskey Traders. 
But again, I don't want to kind 

760
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,500
of kick start at. 
I don't think I want to go that 

761
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:18,700
route. 
But maybe someday. 

762
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:21,800
So it's just it's kind of been 
sitting on the back burner, I 

763
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,400
probably put 2500 hours into the
game, to be honest. 

764
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,700
And I've played test of the damn
thing about 130 times. 

765
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:32,600
I would say, over the years and 
the games, it's the two and a 

766
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,800
half to three hours, maybe to 
our 23, our game for 4 people. 

767
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:39,900
So it's a lot of a lot of time 
put into this game. 

768
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:49,300
Yes. 
Yes, for sure. 

769
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,400
That's interesting. 
Yeah, that's interesting. 

770
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,100
So not many people actually do 
that, don't know if you actually

771
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:56,200
make games, you know what I 
mean? 

772
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,400
Like it's such a you're going to
have some kind of spark or some 

773
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,000
kind of inspiration and passion 
for for making games and then 

774
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:09,400
have to go through all that huge
process like you've just gone. 

775
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:12,700
Like, you just explained about 
that would take a lot of courage

776
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:17,300
to do that but it was a way to 
fill the void in this in my life

777
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:19,200
at that time. 
So it was it was fantastic 

778
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,800
because a good journey. 
I'm glad I went through it. 

779
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:23,200
I learned a lot. 
Absolutely. 

780
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,500
Yeah. 
That would be brilliant. 

781
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:28,800
Well, hopefully it will get. 
You will still get picked up at 

782
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,300
some point. 
You know, don't don't give up 

783
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:31,800
hope on it. 
Like I said before, you know, 

784
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,500
don't you know, it's still 
there. 

785
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:37,400
It's still a thing is still a 
creation of yours, so it's still

786
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,400
still viable, it's still up, you
know, still an option somewhere,

787
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,500
maybe some kind of maybe if I 
could because like in Germany, 

788
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:45,400
like you taught before they 
Germany's, I just massive in the

789
00:44:45,408 --> 00:44:47,400
board games like they just 
produce anything. 

790
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,700
Now they're really the for the 
German mark. 

791
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:54,600
Second and, and is that there's 
a publisher called Academy games

792
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,200
that briefly looked at my game 
as well. 

793
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,800
There they do a lot of 
historical games. 

794
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,500
I think they did an underground 
Railway about the the black 

795
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:06,000
slave trade in the states. 
It's called Freedom, if I 

796
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,500
recall. 
But and then, you know, any game

797
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:15,600
with this theme it's really like
like a game like bang, which is 

798
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,000
a simple card game or dice dice 
rolling game, you know, that's 

799
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,800
kind of fine because Blade and 
easy, but any game of lots of 

800
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,000
components, a heavy theme like 
Germany's really gone to more of

801
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,400
a Euro style market and you know
where you play a game and it 

802
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,400
lasts an hour and there's, you 
know, maybe five to ten pages of

803
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,600
rules. 
Whiskey Traders is, is a lot 

804
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,900
more involved. 
So it's a tough sell, especially

805
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:46,000
with the theme because, you 
know, once you get any any First

806
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,100
Nations kind of for, you know, 
if you talk about atrocity in a 

807
00:45:50,107 --> 00:45:52,700
game, it's kind of like, well, 
do you know, I would just want 

808
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:54,900
to play a game to have fun? 
Do I really want to know this 

809
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:56,100
truck so? 
Yeah. 

810
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,800
Yeah, but you're right. 
Someday had, you know, if the 

811
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,800
cards are lines that something 
bad happened and if not, I'm so 

812
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,700
glad I made it home my friends, 
still time to take a break and 

813
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:09,100
haven't really played in New 
York last year and a half, but 

814
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,300
for a while we're playing it, it
often. 

815
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:15,100
And basically, you know, lots of
different play testers for the 

816
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,400
game and stuff. 
So, it was good, I've really 

817
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,300
enjoyed putting together clubs 
putting together. 

818
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:21,900
Leagues, kind of Organizing 
things. 

819
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:27,800
And I get a lot of satisfaction 
from doing it at school and I 

820
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,000
know you mentioned before you 
like playing blood bowl and 

821
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,700
that's something that it's a 
game that I'm actually really 

822
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:35,200
missed because I haven't played 
it for such a long time, but 

823
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,700
it's one of those really classic
board games that I think has 

824
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:42,600
been through the ages through 
decades, almost that it's had 

825
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,100
such a huge following and it's 
something that I'd want to 

826
00:46:46,107 --> 00:46:48,900
really bring back to the channel
at some point and actually get 

827
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:52,800
back into it. 
So Are you currently playing 

828
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,800
blood Bowl in your area there? 
So I had usually our league runs

829
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:03,100
from January till about April or
May, and so we got a late start 

830
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:06,400
this year so we probably didn't 
start till mid 10, February, and

831
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,100
then covid happens. 
So yeah. 

832
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:12,300
Basically, we have a website, 
it's real. 

833
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:15,800
Pretty cool, actually, I'm sure 
if you played neck reminding 

834
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,200
you've heard of what is that 
website? 

835
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,000
That has It hosts all the stuff,
man. 

836
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,100
I did. 
I'm just a doctor, is it? 

837
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:28,000
That it's not académica. 
It's oh man, I've got an account

838
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,100
there and it's been like a year 
since I played Doctor - I feel 

839
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:32,900
like forgot but there's inside. 
Yeah. 

840
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:34,500
Really. 
They host there. 

841
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,200
You can build your list on there
from classic edition or the 

842
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,800
newer Edition, then 17, or 18 or
whatever. 

843
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,000
And and you can basically create
your Army in, it'll kind of 

844
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,800
track your campaign. 
Whatever. 

845
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:56,400
And this guy, and I think he's 
in Denmark, he created, he 

846
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,000
could, he did a lot of his own 
programming, and he created his 

847
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,900
own, kind of Hosting site for 
blood bowl, and it's fantastic. 

848
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:08,100
Because one of the problems with
reading a blood Bowl League or 

849
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:10,800
kind of any league is, you know,
how you going to track all the 

850
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,400
dice rolls after the game, you 
know, our people cheating. 

851
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,500
It's not like, you know, do you 
really care if they're cheating?

852
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:17,800
It doesn't really matter. 
We're not playing for for big 

853
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,700
bucks here, it's not a big 
tournament or anything. 

854
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:23,000
But you know, how do you track 
all the roles? 

855
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,100
You know, how do you maintain 
it? 

856
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:28,000
How do you arrange games? 
And this this site that we so 

857
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,500
basically we pay about I think 
it's approximately 100 euros, 

858
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:33,700
110 Euros. 
Okay. 

859
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:37,300
I made every year and basically 
all the members of the club kind

860
00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:40,100
of split it up and so we pay 10 
bucks each for whatever it is. 

861
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,500
And and we basically have our 
own site for blood boil, and it 

862
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:47,500
tracks all of our games and 
tracks and all of our 

863
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:50,500
statistics, it does. 
The dice rolls Scallops. 

864
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:54,000
It's just it's brilliant. 
I think, if, if somebody could 

865
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,100
do that for Warhammer, you know,
for Fantasy the older versions 

866
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,800
or, you know, it's like this 
like the neck, reminder, like 

867
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,700
it's just for every single 
tournament there or the gore 

868
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:07,200
campaign that you run. 
If there could be something like

869
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,900
this now. 
I think it would it would 

870
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:13,100
generate some income. 
So it's, it's brilliant and I 

871
00:49:13,107 --> 00:49:16,400
can't imagine playing blood bowl
without this, you know, a league

872
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,900
without the software now. 
And I'll maybe give you the link

873
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:23,000
to our Website because it's got 
seven years of history and 

874
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,300
statistics and all that stuff. 
If you want to check it out 

875
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:28,200
sometime, it's called the 
rechargeable flatland blood Bowl

876
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,400
League. 
Cool sounds great. 

877
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:37,000
I'm definitely looking to get 
back into at some point because 

878
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,100
even some of the guys here in 
Japan the foreign guys anyway he

879
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:44,500
liked playing it. 
So it's something that's it's 

880
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:48,100
sort of like a game that sort of
alive, but it's in, in this new 

881
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:49,800
iteration, so who are you 
playing? 

882
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:53,900
A Third Edition rules or are you
playing the current edition of 

883
00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:58,000
blood blister? 
So yeah, so I still remember 

884
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,300
that, it's probably what 96 sesh
when the Third Edition rules 

885
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:04,400
came out. 
And I remember reading those 

886
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,500
rules and saying, oh my Lord, 
this is, this is good and yeah, 

887
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:11,800
back then. 
And 96-95, I can't remember when

888
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,800
blood boil came out back then, 
but I had my, my gaming club and

889
00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:19,700
I think of that point we may had
25 30 people playing blood pool.

890
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:22,400
And that was 3rd Edition and it 
wasn't very balanced back. 

891
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,200
Then, but as Games Workshop, you
know, Des was specialist games, 

892
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,800
they ignore it for a little 
while and then the community 

893
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:33,000
really picked up the slack. 
So I think right now the main 

894
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,100
real said is the it's called the
CRP or the living real book, six

895
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:38,600
or seven. 
I'm not really sure can't 

896
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,000
remember which number it is but 
that's probably the real said I 

897
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,800
would play. 
I know the Games, Workshop 

898
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,800
relaunched it, but, you know, 
the thing I like about Third 

899
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,600
Edition where Hammer is, they 
had a Our Hammer armies book I 

900
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,500
collect models from every range.
I hate buying Army books. 

901
00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:59,700
Like I'd left the fourth edition
books I have them but I bought 

902
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:02,900
them all for the 6 Edition than 
for an 8th Edition and 7th 

903
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:04,700
edition. 
I'm kind of tired of by an army 

904
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:07,300
books and that's what they've 
done with blood Bowl Games 

905
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:09,600
Workshop. 
So you know some people love the

906
00:51:09,607 --> 00:51:11,300
new rule set. 
It's pretty much the living 

907
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:14,200
rulebook real said. 
There's some tweaks and changes 

908
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:16,600
but they have a lot of splat 
books out. 

909
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Now like there's the annuals and
stuff and honestly The game's 

910
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:26,700
worship is so much my money. 
I have been waiting me Frank, I 

911
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:30,400
just, I kind of try to stick 
with the living rule book but 

912
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,400
but I know what's it. 
Like, people can play whatever 

913
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,400
kind of rules they want in their
in their match as long as we get

914
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,500
an end result rate. 
So so yeah, so we play The 

915
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,400
Living little book rules but but
the new rules were pretty much 

916
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,400
the same. 
Okay so yes, don't think Third 

917
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,300
Edition like, you know, going 
back to the nostalgic sort of 

918
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:51,400
Timeline. 
I think I think just the 

919
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,500
straight Third Edition walls are
probably what I'm going to be 

920
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,200
playing. 
This will be that the thing with

921
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,500
interviews with with Third 
Edition is there's no kind of 

922
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:04,500
there's no inducements. 
Like, if one person has like, if

923
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:08,600
you play a game and seven people
are are injured for next game. 

924
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:13,000
You might only have three people
on the line versus a 12-man 

925
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,300
roster, whatever. 
So that's kind of the problem 

926
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,200
with Third Edition rules. 
You could have a game that you 

927
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,600
have no hope, but maybe that's 
part of It's charm to maybe 

928
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,800
maybe yeah I think I think the 
cards and all that kind of 

929
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,800
thing. 
I love games the cars in it, you

930
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,000
know the the death zone 
expansion, had all those 

931
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,200
different various cars that you 
play through the game. 

932
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,600
It just made a really wacky and 
fun. 

933
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:38,200
I suppose is one off one of 
games that might be okay. 

934
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,700
But I guess I can understand 
where you're coming from with 

935
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:44,700
like, 4 a.m. if you're playing 
like and tournement or, you 

936
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,800
know, a series of matches, the 
illegal something, maybe that 

937
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,400
will be quite Quite 
disheartening for players have 

938
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,400
crushed it. 
Some point where they can 

939
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,400
actually field in you guys in a 
gang or something like that. 

940
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,800
Have you played this Sigmar 
Joshua? 

941
00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:03,300
I haven't right now. 
I haven't been I haven't either 

942
00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:06,700
which is, you know I friends 
here like it's not super big 

943
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:11,000
here but I have, you know, some 
friends who have played War 

944
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,600
Hammer with me over the years 
and and kings of war and and 

945
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,300
they they really like they just 
like my real set. 

946
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:21,000
But I just I haven't I haven't 
gone in, I haven't tried it, I 

947
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,100
don't know. 
There's something about storm 

948
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:25,500
casted turtles that it just 
don't work for me, but some 

949
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:36,700
people love them to death. 
So yeah, basically Games 

950
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:42,500
Workshop and not getting a cent 
out of me like now or never you 

951
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:48,100
know, that I loved growing up 
with and then buying the 

952
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,900
necessary. 
The games of people secondhand 

953
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:53,700
of that kind of thing. 
Like, for me personally and it's

954
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:55,900
not nothing against Games 
Workshop, I'm just not 

955
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:57,600
interested in what they're doing
nowadays. 

956
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,200
It's not, it's not the same 
company. 

957
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,200
Even though some of the old old 
crew is still there. 

958
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,800
Like Gervais Johnson actually 
wrote the rules for age of 

959
00:54:03,808 --> 00:54:48,700
Sigma, which is, which is a boy,
well, I can tell you, I know my 

960
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:52,400
my Son's friends that, you know,
they'll come over and see the 

961
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,800
models kind of on my table or 
you know on our Shelf and 

962
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,900
they're like you know I think I 
could maybe get a new generation

963
00:54:59,900 --> 00:55:04,400
of kids around a lot care and 
we're having if I want to do and

964
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,800
yeah it's cool. 
Like there's something about 

965
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,600
that first game you play a 
miniature. 

966
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,700
Is it just and it's just there's
something special about, you 

967
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:16,100
know, nicely painted figures on 
a table or or on a floor or 

968
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:18,900
however you do it, right? 
So it's drugs. 

969
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,800
Yeah. 
I have an interesting story 

970
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,200
about about dungeon Quest 
because that was that when that 

971
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,500
came out and I played a lot of 
dungeon question, I still play 

972
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:35,500
it to this day. 
We you know we and this is the 

973
00:55:35,508 --> 00:55:38,600
original like 87 version I think
of a bookshelf. 

974
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,000
I've got I think I've got almost
every bookshelf game that games 

975
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,500
were shot made during that era 
because I've just been 

976
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:50,800
collecting stuff throughout the 
years but In my gaming Club, 

977
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,100
when you're in, this was kind of
fun. 

978
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:55,900
We didn't request. 
If you've never played it, it's 

979
00:55:56,500 --> 00:56:00,300
for people can play it at once 
and it's got a very high death 

980
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:02,100
rate. 
So have you ever played dungeon 

981
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,000
Quest Joshua. 
I'm just trying to think. 

982
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:12,600
Is that the one with the dragon 
in the city that we have such a 

983
00:56:12,607 --> 00:56:18,300
high death rate, but what we 
would do is we had a games day. 

984
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:22,700
This was Way back in the 90s we 
had a game is a and basically it

985
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:26,600
was like a Perpetual on a 
dungeon Quest that the board was

986
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,500
set up. 
Almost everybody in the club 

987
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:31,900
knew how to play the game 
because I was a champion of it 

988
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:34,000
and it's completely random. 
I get it. 

989
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,300
A lot of people don't like the 
luck in it, but I think it's 

990
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:39,800
just, it's just funny. 
And every day, every person who 

991
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,600
went through would have paid a 
dollar and I think by about 2:00

992
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,200
a.m. this, we started. 
I think most games days, we 

993
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,000
started around nine o'clock in 
the morning. 

994
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:52,700
So it people have been playing 
it non-stop for the whole day 

995
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:55,100
and I think we had over a 
hundred dollars in the pool and 

996
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:57,800
half of the money would go to 
the person who came out and got 

997
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,900
to the dragons chamber and came 
out and so it get half the money

998
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:04,200
of him. 
The other half went to the 

999
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,900
gaming Club, to pay for the 
rent, at that point, because we 

1000
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:11,300
had changed locations, and we're
paying a higher end, but we kept

1001
00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:12,800
playing it. 
We're like, we got to beat this 

1002
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,700
kid. 
Like everybody had laughed and 

1003
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:17,100
it was just like, wherever 
friends, like we were playing it

1004
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:19,100
over and over. 
We got to beat this kid because 

1005
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:22,500
I Came out with like 5,000 
crowns of treasure something. 

1006
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:24,100
And I've never seen that happen 
before. 

1007
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:27,300
I think we played until 3:00 or 
4:00 a.m. and we didn't feed it.

1008
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:32,700
So we just kept adding this kids
I think it was 70 or 80 bucks, I

1009
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:36,000
think because because we were 
gambling on Denton classes for 

1010
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:48,900
his kind of into me into playing
with me and yeah, I in the very 

1011
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:51,400
first Game we played. 
I actually made it to the center

1012
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:55,300
and actually got back out of the
dungeon with some treasure, but 

1013
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:58,300
it's yeah, I really remember the
playing that game and it was 

1014
00:57:58,300 --> 00:58:00,200
really, really fun. 
I just feel it's really sad. 

1015
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,100
That I'll never get to play much
after that and I think I sadly 

1016
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:05,500
sold it after that I think. 
Yeah. 

1017
00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:07,100
That's what happened to me. 
Yep. 

1018
00:58:07,300 --> 00:58:11,100
Oh sorry. 
That was my phone. 

1019
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:23,500
So when you are, when it, what 
are your goals for the next year

1020
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,800
or so with with the Warhammer 
hobby, what do you hope that I 

1021
00:58:27,808 --> 00:58:31,200
know you're doing lots of live 
kind of streams which are 

1022
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,600
fantastic. 
And I listened to your last when

1023
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:38,600
your latest interviews with 
we'll both with was a balder. 

1024
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:43,100
I'm not sure how well they have 
a Renaissance and then I saw the

1025
00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:46,400
issue with Robert which I 
thought was fantastic and kind 

1026
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,200
of how you guys both kind of 
grew up on hero. 

1027
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,700
Us and stuff. 
And yeah, I like what, what kind

1028
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:56,000
of army do you want to kind of 
create next and kind of what are

1029
00:58:56,008 --> 00:58:59,100
your plans over the next few 
months or the next year of for 

1030
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:01,200
Hammer? 
Well, that's a very good 

1031
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,900
question, Michael, thank you for
asking and it's gonna probably 

1032
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:10,800
take a very long answer, so, you
know, hopefully, I can continue 

1033
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,100
this live stream as it was, we 
just sort of started this and I 

1034
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,500
need to refine it. 
I think to get it to where I 

1035
00:59:17,508 --> 00:59:21,800
need it to be. 
Be in order for it to be like in

1036
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,600
high definition and it to be 
very interactive with the 

1037
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,600
community. 
Yeah, that's one thing that I 

1038
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,900
can work on sort of in my spare 
time and it doesn't really take 

1039
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:37,300
a lot of time for me to do it, 
which is, which is good and in 

1040
00:59:37,300 --> 00:59:39,800
and it and it's really good in a
way that I can reach out to the 

1041
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,700
community. 
Like, you know, members like 

1042
00:59:41,700 --> 00:59:45,000
yourself or other people that 
I've met online that we can play

1043
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,100
games remotely. 
So that's really good. 

1044
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:49,600
So that's that's a sort of 
Little benches on to the working

1045
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,600
on. 
Now, they'll be like a main part

1046
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:56,600
of the part of the channel but 
also, like, Army wise, I'm sort 

1047
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,300
of now, as I'm talking to you 
painting up some scape and 

1048
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:04,900
because I'm playing a game on 
Monday with, with Rob one of the

1049
01:00:04,900 --> 01:00:09,400
guys in the channel. 
And then after that, I hope to 

1050
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,000
start my high Elf Army and sort 
of get that to it like about 

1051
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,100
1000 or 1500 points. 
And and basically sort of 

1052
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:22,100
collect all the fourth edition 
armies, I think I'm still really

1053
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:25,800
happy with the fourth edition 
especially those models of that 

1054
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,800
era and those are my books. 
I really really love with 5th 

1055
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,700
edition not so much to be honest
even though I do play through 

1056
01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:35,900
division like as a game but I'm 
quite happy with just the fourth

1057
01:00:35,900 --> 01:00:39,900
edition armies but man, there's 
so much stuff, you know, 

1058
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:42,600
Michael, there's so much stuff I
want, you know, like like I was 

1059
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,000
just so envious of that that 
huge haul of Epic stuff that you

1060
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,000
got from. 
This is it, the guy that? 

1061
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,900
Yeah. 
Yeah, that crazy. 

1062
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:56,100
Like, like I remember when model
don't I remember when games 

1063
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:58,800
worked up first kind of launched
in the United States because I 

1064
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,000
think that would have been 
around that time when when the 

1065
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,500
fourth edition box that came out
and see Dennis because he was a 

1066
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:08,100
soldier and the United Kingdom 
and came over to Canada. 

1067
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:11,300
He could leverage that that 
ability because he was a 

1068
01:01:11,308 --> 01:01:15,300
soldier, he could have stuff 
shipped over for, I think, for a

1069
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:18,300
cheap cheap. 
So we would be getting the lead 

1070
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:22,000
blisters, which still had I 
think five. 

1071
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,600
I'm going back in my Tove only 
been four, but maybe it had five

1072
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:30,200
six models in it and then the 
new ones coming from from Games.

1073
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,700
Workshop, Baltimore are the 
United States, but have pewter 

1074
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:36,000
and I think it was like two or 
three models, right? 

1075
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,000
So we were Dennis was just like 
his. 

1076
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,800
He was consumed by war, hammer 
and epic and like, you didn't 

1077
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,800
get into magic, you didn't roll 
playback that he It's 

1078
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,800
interesting data 74 and like 
yeah, so he was a soldier in the

1079
01:01:51,808 --> 01:01:54,500
unit in Medicaid. 
Demand came over to Canada and 

1080
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:58,800
met his wife and and just just 
was a he's you know, he got me 

1081
01:01:58,808 --> 01:02:02,400
in a Miniatures and you know his
health is unfortunately failing 

1082
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,800
these days a little bit and so 
he's trying to to part out his 

1083
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,900
collections and the stuff that 
he has most of its kind and 

1084
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,500
unfortunately I didn't live in 
Medicine Hat. 

1085
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:15,800
My hometown. 
So I didn't I didn't know he was

1086
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,700
selling all you know? 
His Warhammer armies. 

1087
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:22,000
But I managed to get his dwarfs 
from him, which is great, 

1088
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,500
because he doesn't replace a 
little bit. 

1089
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:26,900
A jar Sigma or no, but, you 
know, he's, it's great like he 

1090
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:30,000
role plays weakly plays, fifth 
edition Dungeons & Dragons, It's

1091
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,200
just like like the 74. 
It's like, fantastic. 

1092
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,900
Is that the best thing you've 
heard, right? 

1093
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:43,400
So he has very interesting and 
his book collection was he was 

1094
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,200
crazy and just sold this house 
because his wife Slay, a few 

1095
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:52,000
years ago so let's but glad to 
have a friend. 

1096
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,900
You know, I've got a lot of 
friends for life and that's 

1097
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:59,300
pretty cool. 
So it's sad that he has to sell 

1098
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:02,500
his collection but I know he's 
he's giving it to you so you 

1099
01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:04,200
know, it's going to be in good 
hands. 

1100
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,500
He never get rid of it and that,
you know, enjoy it with your, 

1101
01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:08,800
with your kids. 
And that kind of, you knows me 

1102
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,800
pretty well. 
Like, do I sell board games? 

1103
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,600
I don't usually have a 
miniature. 

1104
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:23,100
But it's because I have so many 
of those old box that's like I 

1105
01:03:23,107 --> 01:03:25,600
do have some of the regiment's 
of renowned that are stolen 

1106
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,500
shrink down in a box, somewhere 
downstairs. 

1107
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:31,500
And I bet they have hundreds and
hundreds of blister packs, but 

1108
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:36,800
I'm thick sedition and Pad. 
People then like just well, this

1109
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,700
not that I do. 
I'm probably never gonna pay 

1110
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:41,200
traits. 
So landowners anyway. 

1111
01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:53,700
Yeah, that's what I need to do. 
I actually just picked up some 

1112
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:57,700
really nicely painted Dark 
Elves, but there's not a lot of 

1113
01:03:57,700 --> 01:03:59,300
them. 
So I'm hoping to add dark else 

1114
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:03,800
to our to our campaign, hoping 
to add a little bit of skaven as

1115
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,200
well and slowly but surely my 
not figure painter in the United

1116
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,000
Kingdom. 
James is he's really busy now. 

1117
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,000
He painted some Lord of the 
Rings models and I think the 

1118
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,300
whole gbh elk Crowd has been a 
setting a model so he's really 

1119
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:22,100
busy these days and I can't even
get him to paint my Vegas. 

1120
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:50,900
Like I just love the old fantasy
models, like, and I wanted to 

1121
01:04:50,908 --> 01:04:53,400
maybe you you answer this on a 
previous podcast, but I can't 

1122
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,400
remember. 
What did you have a favorite 

1123
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,000
model for Warhammer? 
That's it. 

1124
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,900
That's a hard one, right? 
That's so difficult. 

1125
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:12,700
I think we got to the door. 
To narrow it down to one model, 

1126
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:16,400
that's going to be really, 
really difficult because there's

1127
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,800
just so many and I could say 
that that different other ranges

1128
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,600
as well. 
Like, not even just say that or 

1129
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,000
Marauder. 
But yeah, but if is sit on 

1130
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,000
broader, I'll tell you what, 
I'll give you one for broader 

1131
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,500
and I'll give you one for 
Citadel. 

1132
01:05:28,900 --> 01:05:32,700
Sure. 
All the Miniatures will have to 

1133
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:39,700
be the klansmen with a Like a 
flail, he's one of but his 

1134
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:42,600
basically I could just one of 
the regular klansmen guys, I 

1135
01:05:42,607 --> 01:05:46,500
think they changed later in the 
catalogs as one of the long 

1136
01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:50,300
beards. 
I just recently picked him up 

1137
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:54,300
not too long ago, but he's 
holding a flail and he's got it,

1138
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:58,800
Mike rally round over it like 
over his shoulder and just just 

1139
01:05:58,900 --> 01:06:02,000
just the way he's been sculpted 
and designed and the motion of 

1140
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,800
it and everything like that. 
I think this is one of the most 

1141
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,700
classic dwarf men. 
Pitches I've seen as so many of 

1142
01:06:07,707 --> 01:06:10,400
the marauder Miniatures. 
All I would say I have to 

1143
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,600
include all the dwarves, I can't
just narrow it down to one. 

1144
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,200
So all the only ones who 
designed orbs of that era are 

1145
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,600
just my favorite all-time 
favorite as love all of them. 

1146
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:24,600
And you know I cherish painting 
them to is day so and I'm still 

1147
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,600
I'm still doing that. 
I'm still painting a lot of 

1148
01:06:26,607 --> 01:06:30,400
those Miniatures. 
So yeah it narrowed down as a 

1149
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,200
collection. 
Yeah. 

1150
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:38,600
Definitely the dwarves for 
Marauder and for Citadel I'm 

1151
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,900
gonna have to go with my 
goblins, my night goblins as a 

1152
01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:42,200
range. 
I can't narrow it down to one 

1153
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,600
figure. 
Something I have to say all the 

1154
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,700
cab Adams fourth edition Orcs 
and goblins are my favorites. 

1155
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,200
Yeah, they're awesome. 
Yeah, when Kev Adams, left games

1156
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:53,600
worship, it was a sad day. 
This is 

1157
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:37,600
Europe. 
Now, they kind of look like a 

1158
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:43,000
bit of a troll and a bit of thin
ogre kind of somewhere in the 

1159
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,500
mix there but they're not 
anything. 

1160
01:07:45,500 --> 01:07:49,100
That Bob Ali did back then was 
and I guess he you know I can 

1161
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:51,600
use that answer because he did 
work for Games Workshop for a 

1162
01:07:51,607 --> 01:07:54,400
long time so her for a while and
a couple of years. 

1163
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,200
Anyway so I love Bob. 
Ali troubles there. 

1164
01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:00,200
They're just brilliant in my 
opinion. 

1165
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:08,500
You know I like all models like 
like I have like figures from 

1166
01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:10,800
every single range. 
I have figures from the early 

1167
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,500
80s, you know, all the way 
through to present. 

1168
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:15,800
And, you know, I don't the 
thing. 

1169
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,800
The thing that I kind of don't 
like is with the only thing, I 

1170
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,200
really like the HSA horoscopes 
are fantastic. 

1171
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,399
I think that the scale creeps 
gone up a bit and I don't really

1172
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:26,800
care for that. 
Like, if you take a look at a 

1173
01:08:26,808 --> 01:08:30,100
birdman large today versus the 
old Vermin, Lord, or the old 

1174
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:33,000
greater Demons of Chaos versus 
the ones today, there's so much 

1175
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,100
bigger and they just, you know, 
getting them to fit into My 

1176
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:39,600
aesthetic is hard on the table 
but you know, I guess we can 

1177
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:44,700
suspend belief as well but and 
it just all those old ranges. 

1178
01:08:44,700 --> 01:08:47,600
I remember getting that 1987 
golden demon. 

1179
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,600
It's that red book with kind of 
the golden demon painting on the

1180
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,100
front getting out and going 
through all of the and all the 

1181
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:56,600
all the entries for the Goldman,
demon words back then and the 

1182
01:08:56,608 --> 01:09:01,100
colors they the painters. 
Use is just so, so awesome. 

1183
01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:04,500
And that Third Edition, you 
know, that hardback third 

1184
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:07,600
edition book is just Just my 
favorite Warhammer book of all 

1185
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,700
time. 
Seeing that table that I think 

1186
01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:12,100
it was Michael and Ellen 
parodies table like in. 

1187
01:09:12,899 --> 01:09:14,899
I don't know if it was the cover
spread, I can't remember. 

1188
01:09:14,899 --> 01:09:17,899
I haven't looked at that book in
a little bit but you know, just 

1189
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:22,200
those old figures and seeing 
antechambers skaven like those 

1190
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,600
old skaven rub models, you know,
are just so good, like but are 

1191
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,700
they beastmen? 
Are they rats, you know, where 

1192
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:30,600
do they fit? 
It, kind of made it a little bit

1193
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,500
and you could probably do, you 
know, switching either ways, but

1194
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:37,399
just the whole concept of having
Mix chaos Army, you know, where 

1195
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:41,800
you can have Orcs and goblins, 
and skaven and, you know, 

1196
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,399
greater demons and and lesser 
demons and all that stuff for 

1197
01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:48,500
make your own thing for Third 
Edition, you know, the slaves, 

1198
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:52,399
the darkness books, you know, 
man, the realm of chaos bucks, I

1199
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:55,000
guess, you know, those, those 
books are just fantastic. 

1200
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,900
They're my favorites. 
Yeah, that's right, man. 

1201
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:03,100
Yeah, that's probably the most 
did definitive sort of error for

1202
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:06,600
a lot of people especially the 
our age group, you're probably 

1203
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,800
getting into war hammer at that 
point in time and then just 

1204
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,800
being blown away. 
But with all these amazing 

1205
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,500
photographs, that was really old
collection of Miniatures now, 

1206
01:10:15,500 --> 01:10:17,200
anyway nowadays. 
But yeah. 

1207
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:18,500
But I think, I think you're 
right. 

1208
01:10:18,500 --> 01:10:20,200
I think a lot of The Minister's 
back then had a lot of 

1209
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,100
character, and I think they 
still do like metal Miniatures. 

1210
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:28,900
Anyway, designed by hand as A 
lot of these 3D designs that 

1211
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:33,100
were going around today, but I 
mean, I can, I can certainly 

1212
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:38,100
appreciate a lot of the 3D stuff
in some regards, but I would be 

1213
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:43,300
certain, you know, buying stuff 
from Kev Adams from Nightmare 

1214
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:46,600
games, for example, because I 
know he's he's a master at his 

1215
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,200
craft and he's, you know, worked
all these years to perfect his 

1216
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,900
art and and you know, you just 
can't get that kind of character

1217
01:10:54,900 --> 01:10:59,900
in 3D design. 
I'm not following weeks ago. 

1218
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,600
I posted on one of it. 
You think it was the old Hammer 

1219
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,600
group? 
I'm like, I'm like this because 

1220
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,000
I have a second edition copy of 
those Reaper roles that were 

1221
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,500
originally, designed made by 
holywell, and, and Priestley. 

1222
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:18,200
And I bought that years and 
years ago on eBay, I didn't have

1223
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,600
it when I was a kid, of course, 
I bought it, but I was like, 

1224
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,800
does anybody have this the first
edition rules? 

1225
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:28,200
And I just put a post on 
Facebook and then One of the 

1226
01:11:28,208 --> 01:11:30,500
people who recently interviewed 
red Priestley. 

1227
01:11:30,700 --> 01:11:34,500
I don't remember, I'm so bad 
with names and fortunately, but 

1228
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:42,500
he saw my post and he said, led 
me to Rick Priestly contacted me

1229
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:45,700
for a copy of these rules. 
He's like, hey, I don't have the

1230
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:48,000
reaper rules anymore. 
Could you give me a scam? 

1231
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,300
So I was like, yeah. 
I could, you know, that's the 

1232
01:11:50,308 --> 01:11:52,800
least I can do for you. 
I'll scan those rules up for 

1233
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,000
you. 
I'm right. 

1234
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:59,800
Yeah, that was really the The 
precursor to Warhammer fantasy, 

1235
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,800
right? 
Was these Reaper rules there 

1236
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:06,100
now, they're cool. 
You know, it's just see how long

1237
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,700
and how far we've come, I guess 
in a Warhammer hobby. 

1238
01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:14,200
But it's just, you know, and 
it's so many good designs and so

1239
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,300
thankful that, you know, 
probably Dungeons & Dragons, led

1240
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:20,000
to all this stuff and, you know,
it's just been a lifetime of 

1241
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:26,200
love. 
Yeah, - it's it's it's it was a 

1242
01:12:26,208 --> 01:12:29,800
very special time. 
I think in that era of Games 

1243
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,700
Workshop, with all these people 
somehow all coming from 

1244
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:37,900
Nottingham, I don't know how or 
why, but always very, very 

1245
01:12:37,900 --> 01:12:43,500
talented, guys, artists and game
designers and miniature painters

1246
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,400
and all that kind of thing. 
So, yeah, I think it's just a 

1247
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,700
very, very special time. 
I don't think we're going to see

1248
01:12:48,700 --> 01:12:52,300
something like that again. 
Anytime Too soon. 

1249
01:12:52,300 --> 01:12:54,400
I think to sort of comes out, 
comes around if you want 

1250
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,300
everyone in every now, and 
again, sorry. 

1251
01:12:57,300 --> 01:12:59,400
So like Rackham. 
I think if you're familiar with 

1252
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,200
rack and the confrontation line,
I think that a very similar kind

1253
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:08,900
of sort of generation of really,
really, really good artists all 

1254
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:15,600
in one place at one time, about 
inclusive, legal trade, they 

1255
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,800
produce something really special
to into Did you have that box? 

1256
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,100
That the first one? 
And I think some of the wolf 

1257
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:24,900
kind of they're like they look 
like almost like route ogre kind

1258
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:28,200
of wolf models that kind of but 
I do remember what they're 

1259
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,700
called. 
Unfortunately but yeah. 

1260
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:36,100
I've got some of those. 
Yeah. 

1261
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:40,300
But many good memories at some 
point soon. 

1262
01:13:40,300 --> 01:13:43,300
Get together to have a game 
together because I'd really like

1263
01:13:43,300 --> 01:13:45,700
that because I've been following
your channel and watching all 

1264
01:13:45,700 --> 01:13:47,800
your fourth edition Battle 
report. 

1265
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,900
Sir be nice. 
Just to play a game before the 

1266
01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:51,100
dishes. 
Because I don't think I've 

1267
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:53,600
actually played fourth edition 
like straightforward addition 

1268
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:58,600
since it was around. 
So, to play fourth edition 

1269
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,300
again, just fourth edition as it
is, just nothing changed. 

1270
01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:04,900
Just as it is out of the box, 
out of the book, will be 

1271
01:14:04,900 --> 01:14:07,500
something really like a real 
good trick so hopefully we can 

1272
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:10,500
do that sometime in the future 
man you better that's it. 

1273
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:12,200
Let's do it. 
And this is I just wanted to 

1274
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,900
thank you personally for 
everything you're doing for 

1275
01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:16,400
this. 
Haunt me, it's great. 

1276
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,300
It's like those videos that you 
put together. 

1277
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,600
Together where you, you know, 
are showcasing, you know, all of

1278
01:14:21,608 --> 01:14:24,400
the stuff that you've, I'm not 
on Instagram, but maybe I should

1279
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,800
be, you know, all these armies. 
You know, nice leap attorneys. 

1280
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,100
And, you know, just just 
Gathering, you know, people who 

1281
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:35,300
are, you know, and hearing their
stories of, you know, a lot of 

1282
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:37,800
us are similar. 
We kind of got in at the same 

1283
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,200
time kind of followed the same 
kind of game path, career path, 

1284
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,400
whatever. 
But it's I just love love that 

1285
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,300
stuff and in my spare time 
listening to it, it's fantastic.

1286
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,300
Mastic. 
When I first got white dwarf, I 

1287
01:14:52,300 --> 01:14:55,200
don't remember the year, I'm 
hoping maybe somebody if you're 

1288
01:14:55,200 --> 01:15:00,000
listening and you could help me.
I so, I knew about, I think it 

1289
01:15:00,008 --> 01:15:03,600
was probably after the fourth 
edition Army book our fourth 

1290
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,600
edition box that came out. 
But my first edition, I wanted 

1291
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,100
to a two-year subscription, I 
live in Canada and to your 

1292
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:14,000
subscription for white dwarf 
and, you know, back then when 

1293
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,800
you signed up to white dwarf you
got like you got rewards that 

1294
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,600
dude. 
Did you ever sign up for white 

1295
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,900
dwarf, back? 
Then I never did right - no. 

1296
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,700
So the reward for me, signing up
to white dwarf for the two years

1297
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:29,800
was Warhammer fantasy. 
Roleplay, I think the first 

1298
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,700
edition was kind of on its way 
out. 

1299
01:15:31,700 --> 01:15:34,400
So this is probably ninety two 
ninety, three ninety one summer 

1300
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,900
in there and I you know all 
those classic books from fantasy

1301
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:41,900
roleplay that was like I 
remember getting this big box 

1302
01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:46,200
and it was just every you know, 
Shadows over Bogan have Bogan 

1303
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,300
Hoffman or however you say it, 
you know, and The Empire within 

1304
01:15:49,300 --> 01:15:52,400
campaign and Terror of the lift,
you know, all these all these 

1305
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,600
modules, that was my reward for 
white dwarf and that can you 

1306
01:15:55,608 --> 01:15:58,200
imagine that today? 
Like it would just it was like a

1307
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,600
gold mine back then. 
So my doors certainly changed. 

1308
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,600
But, you know, I didn't fall 
away to our for a long time but 

1309
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,300
going back in there, doing a lot
of stuff that they did years and

1310
01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:10,100
years ago. 
And it's kind of cool to see 

1311
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:12,600
that, you know, they're going 
back to really cool battle 

1312
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,000
reports and making it more 
interactive. 

1313
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:18,100
I kind of like the new Games 
Workshop you know, compared to 

1314
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:23,000
the The beaker be era. 
But, you know, it's interesting 

1315
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,900
what they're going to do with 
the, with the old world. 

1316
01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:29,100
Now, I guess next rate so and I 
don't play total war war hammer 

1317
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:31,800
but my oldest son, got into it 
showed it to me the other day 

1318
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,200
and and he's playing it. 
And and I'm like you know it 

1319
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,800
uses a lot of the names of these
characters that were familiar 

1320
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,400
with from fourth and fifth 
editions. 

1321
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:43,600
So it's kind of cool that way 
too so it doesn't have the new 

1322
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,800
all thorian and grown like a 
patch or something or some kind 

1323
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,500
of Downloadable content for it 
now. 

1324
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,100
Yeah, I'd have to ask my son. 
He's not here right now, but he 

1325
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:54,000
would for sure. 
No. 

1326
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,700
But I don't, I I'm not very good
with those games that I know 

1327
01:16:57,700 --> 01:16:59,000
Mike. 
My laptop. 

1328
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,300
Absolutely cannot handle that 
game, so he has it on his 

1329
01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:11,900
computer and I don't really go 
out as configurable a desktop 

1330
01:17:11,900 --> 01:17:13,600
PC. 
I don't play any of those. 

1331
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,400
I've never played any of those 
games before. 

1332
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,900
It's just, someone just uploaded
like a YouTube, pretty view of 

1333
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,300
pharaoh and Grandma thought, 
wow. 

1334
01:17:22,300 --> 01:17:24,700
Okay, that's that's pretty 
impressive, right? 

1335
01:17:24,700 --> 01:17:27,700
Back on the timeline there, so 
that's cool. 

1336
01:17:27,700 --> 01:17:31,000
It's good to see those kind of 
new interations of those old 

1337
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,700
characters that we, you know, 
we're familiar with. 

1338
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:39,500
But again, you know, being an 
oldie as myself, I like to put 

1339
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:41,800
them in issues on the table and 
roll the dice and that kind of 

1340
01:17:41,808 --> 01:17:43,500
thing. 
I think computer games just 

1341
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:47,300
frustrate the hell out of me 
after a while ago, I still get 

1342
01:17:47,300 --> 01:17:49,100
bored with him and they did. 
Frustrating. 

1343
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:57,100
So the one thing I absolutely 
love with them. 

1344
01:17:57,300 --> 01:17:58,900
You know I'll be totally 
addicted to them. 

1345
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:01,500
Yeah. 
So I can definitely see the 

1346
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:03,000
attraction. 
Yeah prize. 

1347
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,000
Well that'll probably lasts so 
long until the girls take over 

1348
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,600
maybe. 
But yeah, the last last kind of 

1349
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,000
Games Workshop, computer game 
like I have blood Bowl 2 but I 

1350
01:18:12,008 --> 01:18:13,800
haven't really played it. 
I'm not very good with the 

1351
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,100
interface some so I don't and I 
don't play fumble and Bible but 

1352
01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:20,400
I think the last couple Computer
game I had from Games, Workshop 

1353
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,500
might have been the the 93 space
Hall, which was kind of a 

1354
01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:27,000
real-time game and and I 
remember that being super 

1355
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,100
intense but probably I don't 
know if they still make a game 

1356
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:31,700
like that anymore. 
Not no idea. 

1357
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:37,700
So yeah, yeah, I remember 
getting the like the, the last 

1358
01:18:37,700 --> 01:18:40,100
limited edition space Hulk 
because I never actually played 

1359
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:43,200
the game before. 
Oh, I've been painting all the 

1360
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,700
Miniatures spending ages, doing 
it and look really good. 

1361
01:18:45,700 --> 01:18:48,200
And then I went out to my mates 
place to play. 

1362
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,100
It with him. 
And we sat down, I think it took

1363
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:54,200
about 15 minutes and I think he 
was playing the space rings. 

1364
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,900
I was playing the genestealers. 
Any deceit is got this huge 

1365
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:01,800
migraine if you said I'm sorry, 
I just can't, I just can't play 

1366
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,600
this anymore. 
He's when he crashed out, he 

1367
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,700
took some medicine went to bed 
and I think it was the last time

1368
01:19:06,700 --> 01:19:08,500
I ever played. 
I think I sold it after that. 

1369
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:13,200
Oh, dude, it's one of those 
games. 

1370
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:18,200
I think it's, it's just not for 
you, I think. 

1371
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:21,200
And in the end, I think, in the 
end, I like games where you can 

1372
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,800
have, like, like it's a 
multiplayer where you can have, 

1373
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:28,400
lots of different guys fighting 
as the AI, or it's like three or

1374
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,300
four different Adventures 
fighting against the GM with. 

1375
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:32,200
Yeah. 
With space Hulk. 

1376
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,000
It's kind of like chess 
bitterness in it. 

1377
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,300
Like a spaceship kind of thing. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1378
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,400
The drill through the space 
reasons for sure. 

1379
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,600
I just thought I just got a copy
of the Third Edition in the 

1380
01:19:44,608 --> 01:19:46,800
mail. 
Somebody in one of the local 

1381
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,700
groups had had a Be in there 
from Quebec. 

1382
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:54,800
So I think Montreal and sold me.
This copy is space Hulk. 

1383
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,800
But the cool thing about it is 
every tile that was in the game 

1384
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,100
has been reproduced with her 
starts moves. 

1385
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,900
I don't know if you're familiar 
with her. 

1386
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,500
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so her starts 
molds and and so it was this 

1387
01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:11,200
massive box and I've got all 
these her start molds that have 

1388
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,200
the corridor tiles. 
Like it's like kind of almost 

1389
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,100
that somewhere between 2D and 
3D. 

1390
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:20,900
So, there's A little tiny walls 
but they look like corroded 

1391
01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:23,600
pipes and stuff around it and 
then it's got the corridor time 

1392
01:20:23,700 --> 01:20:27,200
on it and it's fantastic. 
So I think that might be one of 

1393
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,300
our, you know, a video we do 
soon because the Miniatures are 

1394
01:20:31,300 --> 01:20:33,800
painted pretty nice. 
And there's not a lot of space 

1395
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,100
whole content of it. 
Like a lot of those old games, 

1396
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:38,600
like Nana were and that stuff, 
there's not a lot of stuff on 

1397
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,100
there and then would call more 
people do it. 

1398
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:50,700
There's two videos that I've 
seen Actually, I'm just it's 

1399
01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:52,400
just a shame. 
Those guys didn't follow through

1400
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,300
and make more videos on them 
because I know that they're 

1401
01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:55,600
really passionate about the 
game. 

1402
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,000
That is definitely follow 
through and make any more 

1403
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,600
videos, but yeah, that's another
game. 

1404
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,800
I've just recently bought, 
actually matter was a new game 

1405
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,000
for me because I did play it 
back in. 

1406
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:10,200
Wales in England, with a guy was
living with and I played it once

1407
01:21:10,300 --> 01:21:13,200
and I bought a fleet of fully 
painted professionally, painted 

1408
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:18,300
Fleet from my boss at the at the
store at the time and I don't I 

1409
01:21:18,308 --> 01:21:23,700
know why, but I just bought it 
and, and then you had one game 

1410
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:25,800
really enjoyed it, but just 
never played it after that. 

1411
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,900
So I sort of sort of, missed out
on that, whole entire error. 

1412
01:21:29,500 --> 01:21:33,600
So remember that too heavy into 
Manowar because but I just 

1413
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,600
didn't because I had other 
interests at the time, but those

1414
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,600
old models like yeah, if they 
weren't quite so expensive. 

1415
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,800
I do have man of war, but I 
don't have a painted, so that's 

1416
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,800
kind of my I like playing with 
painted models. 

1417
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,000
But I guess maybe I could just 
push around someone painted 

1418
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:48,900
ones. 
Try it. 

1419
01:21:48,900 --> 01:21:50,100
I didn't get a copy of dread 
sweet. 

1420
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:53,400
I know a lot of people hate it 
but that's a what off quick 

1421
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,400
game. 
And my copy was at a friend who 

1422
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,300
passed away, so I bought his 
copy. 

1423
01:21:58,300 --> 01:22:02,500
He had it professionally, 
painted, and this copy of dread 

1424
01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:06,400
Fleet is just gorgeous. 
It's like it's so good and I 

1425
01:22:06,407 --> 01:22:10,200
can't wait to play with my son 
to or whoever else. 

1426
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:14,500
Yeah, just all these good games 
that you know just too many 

1427
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:17,000
games not enough time. 
That's it. 

1428
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,300
My yeah. 
I'm sort of sort of try To 

1429
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:21,800
narrow down, just to those core 
games from gangs Worship in the 

1430
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,100
nineties. 
And I'm sort of just, you know, 

1431
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,300
I think I'm quite happy in this 
space. 

1432
01:22:26,300 --> 01:22:28,600
Maybe you are too, but I know 
you've got a lot of board games 

1433
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:29,900
and other games as well, you 
play. 

1434
01:22:29,900 --> 01:22:33,500
But yeah, I'm quite, I'm quite 
happy, just in this and this 

1435
01:22:33,500 --> 01:22:35,200
are. 
And I think I could, I could, 

1436
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,200
you know, potentially spend the 
next, you know, 10, 15 years, 

1437
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,500
just painting miniatures for 
these games and just being 

1438
01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:46,200
happy, just playing them. 
Yeah, but who Philadelphia? 

1439
01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:51,000
Be a playing these games now 
than I ever have done with all 

1440
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,200
the other modern games out there
now, to be quite honest. 

1441
01:22:54,300 --> 01:22:56,500
Yeah. 
Well then you know, it's there's

1442
01:22:56,500 --> 01:23:00,500
things that Target us and dry 
said and we should really 

1443
01:23:00,500 --> 01:23:02,100
Embrace those things. 
I think so. 

1444
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:05,400
Absolutely - yeah. 
So hopefully hopefully yeah we 

1445
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:09,100
can see some more great videos 
from you and you playing games 

1446
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:13,200
with your son or the other 
friends in the future, maybe 

1447
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,900
even Dennis if Dennis Dennis is 
health is you know getting 

1448
01:23:16,900 --> 01:23:21,000
better if you Great to see you 
guys playing Epic Space Marine 

1449
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,600
at some point. 
Yeah that's a great idea. 

1450
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:28,000
I don't get to go home as often 
as they like it's about a 

1451
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,000
five-hour Journey which I guess 
for a lot of people you know may

1452
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,200
be traveling Halfway Around the 
World to get home but I don't 

1453
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,000
get get home and quite as often 
as I like but you know, I really

1454
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,500
that's a great idea. 
I should really you know give 

1455
01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:44,100
some tribute to the guy who got 
me in for sure. 

1456
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,700
Yeah that'd be wonderful to see 
if that ever happens every 

1457
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:49,300
great. 
I think he'll, I think he would 

1458
01:23:49,300 --> 01:23:53,100
love that too. 
I think he would to be honest. 

1459
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,000
I definitely think he would for 
sure. 

1460
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,700
Or Michael. 
I think we might have to wrap it

1461
01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:01,300
up tonight, so it's been 
absolutely a pleasure to talk to

1462
01:24:01,300 --> 01:24:04,800
you finally. 
And and I just wish you all the 

1463
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,600
best for the channel That You're
producing. 

1464
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:12,500
And hopefully, we can catch up 
very soon to play a game 

1465
01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:15,200
remotely here on the channel and
vice versa. 

1466
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,800
You can host a game for me and 
we can play something at your 

1467
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:19,800
placement. 
That be great. 

1468
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,400
That would be awesome. 
Well, thank you again for the 

1469
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,000
invite and yeah, continue to put
out the great content. 

1470
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,200
I appreciate the Interview and 
it was a lot of fun and just 

1471
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,600
keep up the great work. 
Thank you. 

1472
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,600
Like I might not my pleasure. 
Thank you very much, take care. 

1473
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,700
Thank you, once again for 
listening and downloading 

1474
01:24:42,700 --> 01:24:45,100
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command podcast. 

1475
01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:48,100
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1476
01:24:48,108 --> 01:24:52,000
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1477
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,900
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1478
01:24:55,900 --> 01:25:00,600
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1479
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:05,200
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1480
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:10,000
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So until next time guys, take 

1481
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,700
care. 
And I'll say the next one. 

1482
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:12,500
Okay, bye.