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Yeah, Dave Gilson maid. 
Hagar matter right? 

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I'm fine. 
I'm doing well, I'm doing well. 

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It looks very red around you. 
They're in their room. 

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You got. 
You got lucky. 

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Yeah. 
It's actually in the living 

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room. 
I would have done that. 

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I would have done it in the 
shade but all the printers are 

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going. 
All right on the real occasion 

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that all working the same at. 
You must have it all set down 

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pat because I don't know how you
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hole. 
Like an array of different 

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printers printing off models 
constantly. 

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Yeah I do saw I've got three 
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where they keep, but some PCS 
from orders. 

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I've got the shared, feel all 
the printers are and what does 

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recently converted the Loft so 
that I can actually start making

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handmade diagram of scenery for 
people. 

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Wow. 
So that's the sobbing Katie do 

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Let me change because I'm 
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Saturday to expand the business.
Wow, - yeah, let's bring my 

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that's fantastic. 
I'm really Hayes is good but 

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like I said I couldn't do in the
shadow to be too noisy and all 

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the FTM front of the they are 
quiet. 

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What? 
When you've got six or seven in,

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I'm running at once and it 
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So yeah that works. 
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actually nice and warm in the 
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I don't have the problem as much
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foreigners. 
We're not being able to use them

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when it's called you to the 
fight for my fdm but there's a 

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little one. 
My shed is 1 so it works, you're

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pretty well. 
Nice man. 

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So right now, I'm plantain. 
I've got some comedy 2 comedy 

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Forge castles on. 
Yeah, I've got some Wheezy 

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forger scenery hurts, like 
really read your telescopes or 

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six most off and I'm using the 
other panels. 

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Just never went and got already 
cheap great pla from a guy and 

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I'm making it for before diorama
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BattleTech. 
I'm putting all that off just 

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now. 
So I've got about 300 Parks 

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different, wow. 
Or just to I'm going to fill up 

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with fuel board. 
And I've got our bottom work 

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done, for battle take, but it 
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go on it. 
Wow, nice, when people go past 

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and see the display board of she
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thing, so, yeah, the running 
24/7, everything's running 24/7.

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Yeah, right, or so it's really, 
really enjoying it. 

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Actually, quite enjoy it. 
It's a good for me. 

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I think it's part of it. 
If you enjoy your hobby, and 

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then it's less stress. 
And so, I quite enjoy my whole 

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being and putting things for 
other people and help promote 

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and things like that. 
And so, A good thing. 

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It may this goodness. 
Yeah, that's great, man. 

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Yeah. 
We sort of connected through 

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Facebook, I think initially 
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think. 
I think it's epic within middle 

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group year. 
Pick one as the main one. 

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Yeah. 
And then there's also that epic 

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for sale page and an obviously, 
you've had some products off me 

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yourself. 
I did. 

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Yeah, I do. 
A little one here. 

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The mega Gaga. 
Yeah, I don't like them. 

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Had some really interesting 
configurations when he came up 

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to see me, he said, oh probably 
you doing. 

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I said I'm putting my make a gun
together so he had like all 

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these really crazy mcboyd ideas 
of how things should be put 

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together, making some nice air 
might not hang on. 

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Let's load together as a 
dynamite Canal. 

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Disabled a white, let papa put 
it all together first and then 

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we can start gluing it together.
So we had some really good ideas

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of how to put stuff together, 
which is really funny but yeah, 

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wasn't the original metal 
gargan. 

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Because it's all parts to yeah 
and you needed three hands model

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super glue and your gold poured 
in it. 

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Trying to piece back together 
and pray to God, that actually 

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holds together. 
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Who's always that baby is really
coming to its for now. 

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I think many people have sort of
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border 3D printer or ordering 
stuff through 3D printing 

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services and I think it has a 
wealth of, you know, really 

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great products that people can 
tap into especially for the six 

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mil Market. 
Because, you know, people who 

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were interested in playing Epic 
and don't have the financial 

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resources of purchasing original
1992. 

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Epic Space Marine Miniatures and
I can totally That because it's,

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you know, I've been there 
myself. 

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It's not actually a cheap thing,
buying very small, miniature 

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metal Miniatures or plastic 
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be. 
So having a having alternative 

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out there is really good? 
Yeah, definitely. 

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And it's good for some markets. 
Some not so good, but for epic 

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has been absolutely blowing. 
But over game is also a battle 

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take for six Mill. 
But epic is a mean one. 

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I'd see pictures and see, it's 
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but I'll take Take but you see 
trying to get the models and 

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myself. 
I've been collecting since 1993.

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So from back in the day and 
going deaf by another thing in 

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all thing, and quite a large 
collection, though, of what 

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people guard, Army of about 
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quite one of each unit, one of 
each company, but some of the 

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models are really hard to get 
But I'm also what was in these 

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models. 
They don't go out media can some

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of the mental models I've got 
canned, the shadow swords and 

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they're being boys are back from
that you know and then they get 

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passed on to further Generations
from UC models go around again. 

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But there's still not enough 
sort of 3D printing Market. 

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There's definitely been good for
that definitely especially the 

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scenery some of the scenery just
know for the Epic is absolutely 

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but oh yeah. 
I really enjoy it. 

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It's very good, we use it. 
We epic. 

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Every two weeks here with a 
bunch of guys, forget to give 

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over two weeks or two weeks 
every few weeks. 

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So I think typically epic and 
the sooner that getting the 

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scene at all card will buildings
were great but no to get them in

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3D print was absolutely 
brilliant and so yeah, nice make

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Society. 
You mentioned, you started 

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collecting in 1993 was epic, the
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Encountered. 
Yeah, it was it's funny before 

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that and I hadn't even recognize
that I'd actually played a 

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version of dungeon ball a few 
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London, had been at a party. 
And I don't know why, but this 

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guy pulled out a board game and 
that's what was the result. 

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And another funny video game, I 
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and then I forgot Orbiter and in
1992. 

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To an old friend of mine. 
I was actually thinking I'm 

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today is a guy called more 
coach, has his nickname, is at 

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least Hardman skinhead. 
Give me and he showed me one 

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Epic space when he's done and 
one rain or stand. 

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And that was it I got hooked and
then he gave me a box or bottle 

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force and with other models in 
it and I showed it to my pile 

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Gordon that time and I wasn't 
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we run through to Glasgow, dear 
God and is VG's. 

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And this year, I am only going 
to spend this and it was a false

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denied back in the day of pain 
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Wizard of Oz denied. 
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love or buts in peace. 
He's on a wedding and the shops 

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are filled with the door and 
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whole wage and buying everything
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empty out quite a bit. 
So yeah, we did that link 3 and 

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the 6 months would actually set 
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community doing epic and things 
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And it's so it just went on from
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just collect an overhang. 
I had a spare room, we actually 

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put a full Hold my spare room 
and me and all my mates would 

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get together and play. 
Epic wigs and competitions. 

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But we also do or what he space,
Hulk going to come to my house 

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at 7:00 at night. 
And we'll be there to form the 

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morning, Point space, Hulk. 
And I joined for being bored and

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the room and all that kind of 
stuff. 

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So, all different things like 
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it. 
It nice - so you've always been,

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like, a six mil purest. 
Basically, you never got. 

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Yeah, we'd find a key. 
From 2nd 4th edition and a 

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database. 
One more fun is he borrow. 

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But the things that we did by 
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whole ultramarine can things 
that are older be small, GW 

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board games going to be boxes, 
used to get them space Fleet and

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everything like that. 
Yeah so we've cleared all those 

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kind of things but will re-enter
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turkey but there was a few 
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Like I said, we started the club
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And within a year we had 120 
Forks, kids and everything. 

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From a 20-mile radius. 
Coming around to the corner 

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Saturday night. 
We actually did an epic game of 

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50,000 points. 
Wow, they'd Chaos versus 

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Imperial Garden space Moline and
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the Sunday night. 
It was absolutely brilliant, 

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obviously, the Imperial Garden. 
The Marines got hammered and 

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they can stop our 50,000 point 
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No matter how many shooting 
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And we used to do that kind of 
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It's just so ya can epic is 
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took a couple of years out and 
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wee break from a modern and up 
but it's always in the back 

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room. 
So yeah. 

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It's six mils, mark my 40, I 
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that's good right now. 
I'm willing, I'm really happy 

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that to hear that. 
You actually have a fortnightly 

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game group getting together and 
playing some games. 

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So I hear that you're playing 
tomorrow, is that right? 

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Yeah, I saw there was guys, I 
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quite a few of those got one, 
but getting them together was 

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hard, especially going to cover 
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glass, go guys. 
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doing in London. 
Sorry, P wave that say two 

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things and they get ranked in 
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world. 
So it's saying so I spoke to a 

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few of them and met them before 
three competitions. 

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And I just sat late, let's try 
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guys together and walkable 
community site to support them. 

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To get them to build up and 
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Edinburgh, Inverness or cook 
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Bones. 
But there's always two of the 

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players but they couldn't get 
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So we've been trying to arrange 
things to get together to go to 

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different venues around Scotland
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And we seem to have stumbled 
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in the Centre of Scotland, Roy 
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Glasgow. 
So we'll be meeting ever had one

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competition just before 
Christmas, which went to New, we

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will sow the seeds but they were
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And we'll try the different game
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Mostly we do epic am again, and 
but we're going to try different

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systems just to give people a 
wish or tomorrow. 

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I think we do mini getting. 
So it's 1,000 Point forces and 

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getting some new players come 
along and we provide that armies

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with provide the scenery. 
So it's saying and then some 

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will do not every two weeks and 
then we'll hook to start a 

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Scottish Nationals. 
Once every few months just for a

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bit of fun, nothing to see this 
but give a wee bit in Rankin and

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give people an opportunity to 
come together a bit more and 

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then do an open once a year for 
the UK of whatever whoever wants

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to come across. 
So yeah. 

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The two-week thing as good as a 
good, we do covers and so yeah, 

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so good. 
Nice Mater's. 

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Oh, that's awesome. 
So yeah, you talked about 

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Armageddon and I know that the 
Epic Community is quite 

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fractured in that. 
They have various different 

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editions, not so much fraction, 
but they had, you know, everyone

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has their own sort of choice 
game system of Epic six Mill. 

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They want to play in 40K, 
universe everything from first 

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edition epic. 
It's a second edition, which is 

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really the most beloved one that
people most got in probably had 

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their entry into epic 40, 40 K, 
and then it came to Third 

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Edition and then Armageddon 
after that. 

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So what is your preferred game 
system? 

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Do you think second edition 
already made? 

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Good on you Dave. 
Thank you. 

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You got to be and all what 
people see is really fragile, 

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because there was too many units
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less than that, but you know 
what? 

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I don't care. 
Yeah, and it was just absolutely

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blowing back in the day, and we 
stopped where I got into my 

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pulses and yeah, yeah. 
And we try to get together once 

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a month and play some second 
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We do obviously, it become again
to try and keep the rules. 

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Then for the duration, I've only
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about three months ago, I don't 
quite It just wasn't my thing 

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that I think it was true too far
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Titan, Regents, for me. 
And that's when I had actually 

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stopped waiting for a couple 
years. 

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So I came to miss actually 
pointing that. 

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So, it's okay, as a good be 
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edition. 
All the way and all these cards 

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and ordered units and just 
everything. 

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There's you can go crazy again. 
Yeah. 

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And some sometimes It was a bit 
dark. 

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And remember point, we 
competition of my house with 

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some of my pals and we always 
played six Frozen Point armies. 

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It didn't if we get me one or 
two thousand, six thousand 

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points and remember table, and 
Elder Army unfold, one point on 

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one then, wow, your tactics, 
right? 

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And there's this button and 
water and everything can and and

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this is all great stuff. 
Ken, it was just it was crazy 

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but that's what That is all 
about. 

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Can you wouldn't? 
It is a boot. 

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You cannot see what's cool for 
that. 

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So yeah, second edition is yes, 
my favorite. 

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Yeah, me too mate. 
I mean I came into second 

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edition in Epic and I find it so
hard to leave it. 

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And when you know, I've heard 
stories about Third Edition and 

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onwards and I looked at the 
Armageddon book and it just has 

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nothing, it doesn't have the the
soul or the core that second 

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dish in brought to a lot of 
Players and in the rules in the 

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the the themes of the Army's. 
It's just not there. 

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It's just very, very Bland. 
I think yeah that that is all 

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about and I think that's because
it's been designed as a fan base

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for more. 
Hope you see competition style. 

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Yeah, can to give an overall 
general focus and make it can 

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even if he couldn't Point second
edition. 

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Couldn't have do that. 
And two and a half. 

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I was you late right there. 
So I can see why the fruit that 

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structure in place. 
Yeah, till but you can play a 

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good game, two and a half hour 
or so. 

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As you only fuck competitive, I 
still like it. 

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I do like it then and I use my 
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apart form. 
The ones I heat is, Nick runs. 

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Absolutely detest. 
It comes in. 

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I will gift, I will give Third 
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Armageddon ago because I want to
give a good, you know, I want to

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give it a thorough reflection or
a thorough assessment of what I 

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think about the other systems. 
Comparing two second edition. 

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I think second edition was like,
the, you know, the ultimate 

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edition. 
I mean I don't think anybody 

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could top that, but I can 
understand your viewpoints. 

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And I understand the designers 
viewpoints in making these other

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editions where they had it had 
to make it, you know. 

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No, playable in a tournament 
sense but second editions, not 

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like that. 
It's kind of a it's it's so 

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expansive in its its rule sets 
in the Army's. 

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You can play and all the rules 
and everything like that. 

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Know, if you look if you 
actually look at the cover of 

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the second edition, blue box 
piece medium box with a laundry 

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that and all the troops and the 
Army has a mesh Marshall 

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everything. 
Yeah. 

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And that's its second edition 
dead, the offered the proceed go

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for it, feel for you want, do 
what you want. 

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You've got some restrictions on 
Syrian Army cards in that. 

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But give you give you such scope
to do all crazy stuff and I 

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thought that was just brilliant.
Canada is a good way to work it 

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and and it was like what an army
should be as not to sleep won't 

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work, unless we unity and that 
we unit area. 

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This is ignore everything 
especially if you're in Orcs. 

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And you might not. 
Yeah, thank you. 

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Couldnt chord but this 
absolutely not. 

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Okay. 
And for me, that was just and we

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boil really battle tower was an 
amazing weapon. 

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Yep, came. 
And you feel that again to start

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the back of the board 
surrounded, we are Clan and just

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waked anything that was in front
of it or, but it's a squat cycle

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up. 
So, I went to a game shop and 

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got in Glasgow in the Warhammer 
short. 

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And I've been Queen epic for 
quite a bit. 

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And if we just go against 
squats, another freedoms against

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bots in the process. 
A corpse. 

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Oh, and it took note a note in 
the tongue on one and I was 

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just, but bar, you can t do 
that? 

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You don't like to do that. 
But it was like I again, that's 

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it. 
I'm buying a cyclops. 

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Thank you very much. 
Thank you very much, Dave. 

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That's good sold. 
Yes, I don't have one yet. 

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So that's that's the next 
purchase I think. 

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I've got one. 
I got one. 

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India steam. 
So 

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let's see what when like when 
you first got into the hobby. 

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When you first discovered epic, 
what was the first Army that you

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sort of gravitated towards, what
was the first thing that really 

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appealed to you? 
It was Marines babies Marines 

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and he that's what you go to the
box. 

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You've got the Hawks and you go 
lll die. 

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Mommy. 
He got and he grabbed the the 

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Elder and hotdogs setting here. 
So we built that up between the 

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two of us and we just take tons 
about and a couple more than 

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meets got on board. 
So what we actually did was 

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Special, with the game's called 
was we had. 

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We used to collect armies for 
people who are coming into the 

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club and we had every Army for 
the Epic and for the key at the 

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time of, what are my fantasy and
we kept them in this cupboard in

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the club and people could come 
along and use them. 

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But for the Epic for me, it was 
always Marines to start with 

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Ken. 
That was really good. 

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I can never get a grasp, it 
chaos. 

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And and I still struggle with it
at times, especially with me 

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cards and that it just Just my 
her. 

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And I suppose I've been a bit 
lazy and learning that but for 

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me it's all been a marine man or
imperial guards. 

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Right thing. 
And I had a bit back and years. 

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I had a big 10,000 points of 
Marines within a year or just 

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collect that many models and 
system structure even. 

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So you could go crazy with. 
I'm gonna be just the structure 

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of a whole game system that 
wasn't just about that. 

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For me, it was just about the 
structure, you can create an 

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army with a different positions 
and their tactics and things 

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like that and that is quite 
later and back in the D for Mia.

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Personally I suffered depression
and I was even as a young lad 

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had you about depression and the
game system, give me something 

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to focus on something outside of
what was happening in the world 

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and another issues in that That.
So that was something that that 

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game coming along result of your
life changer, for me and because

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Kenya had a new group of friends
and you can people took me into 

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their homes and treat me as 
family. 

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So playing these games, it's 
more about that side of it. 

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Been seeing this armies. 
The best army of that armies are

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based on me. 
Yeah, but yeah, I was always 

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been an old woman, he's man. 
And as far as I'm concerned, but

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there's no other space million 
Army and moisture. 

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Limiting in the well, you see 
the Trio's. 

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that's a really good point you 
made there about you know 

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because you suffered depression 
and you found the hobby recruit 

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gave you that in action two 
people and obviously it made you

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feel Are as a person and it just
got you through that difficult 

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time in your life. 
And I think for me to is being 

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very shy young guy, I think I 
found it very hard to connect 

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with people, you know, in a 
normal sense, kind of thing, 

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I've found gaming a really good 
way to connect with people and 

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communicate, and develop 
relationships and that kind of 

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thing. 
So, I think for gaming, it's 

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really good, but it's a really 
good thing, I think. 

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Yeah, it definitely is going 
back in the D. 

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I'm not. 
Should I go and I'm again the 

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room for stand up board, where 
and go nuts? 

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But back in the day, there was 
no control that I had the 

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patient. 
Can, I had to push myself out 

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and I went a bit much, but the 
game give me some structure. 

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Okay, definitely give that and I
think and I've seen it all three

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years, people with disabilities 
and things like that and it's 

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been good for them. 
And when we had that games 

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called back in the day and we 
had a committee would take the 

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the kids on the committee and 
bring them in and show them how 

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to be part of a committee and 
how to run clubs. 

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And we'll pack of the part of 
the Jew, cayendo Ward scheme, at

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the time. 
And had guys coming in to teach 

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them how to build scenery 
professionally. 

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And all this kind of thing, and 
it gives them a feeling of 

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self-worth. 
Can especially Kevin, you've got

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an illness or anything like 
that. 

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It's the hardest thing to do is 
to get to know people and to do 

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things within, it's an activity.
If it you can all enjoy and 

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share but we've it really helps 
people and communities and 

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things like that. 
So not sure we can speak to a 

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guy speaker but opening up a 
small club for people with who 

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have learning difficulties and 
things like that. 

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And communities are people, we 
suffered a patient and maybe 

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doing Something in the near 
future because it's can people 

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are certain they're getting tied
up in their houses, for squeal 

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was specially recorded can come 
and over that know, if I serious

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depression and the fat Nick 
mystical, okay, then definitely 

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please to go. 
But the one thing, but it's 

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happened, as gaming has 
increased in the homes and 

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people's homes because of the 
covid period. 

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So, most people will know stuck 
in her who she's coming out here

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called a looking for places to 
go and game. 

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So, looking at night, can you 
sing? 

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So it definitely helps people 
who have issues and needing 

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help. 
And I would recommend that 

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whether it's epic, well, it's 
for Tiki EG Sigma or anything to

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some board games. 
Yeah, get a new local church. 

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There's a bunch of guys there 
and there's a bit name them a 

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get together with a couple weeks
and they play board games all 

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the time and as a community 
activity, which is is great. 

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Yeah, it's really. 
A positive isn't, it's really 

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good thing actually? 
Yeah, I mean, I think for, for 

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most of us, I think maybe I 
think you know, for me, 

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especially Gaming's, being just 
a big social thing for me, you 

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know, it's like getting together
and meeting people. 

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And you can just chatting and 
playing games and enjoying that,

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of course, that aspect of the 
hobby as well. 

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But yeah, connecting a few, I 
think most of my friends, if not

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all of them are all Gamers. 
Yes, I've got quite a few 

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things, we aren't Gamers and 
they don't understand Kim. 

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Came when it till you're blue in
the face and I just look e is 

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have to see. 
Yeah, right. 

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Sure. 
See you later can. 

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My friends were outside the 
gaming thing, the actually, when

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I show them the 3D printing, 
what I'm doing, then they get on

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a better understanding of a 
gaming because when you take, 

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you describe a board game and a 
battlefield, no rest of it and 

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ice it and we'll come and have a
look at my Printing and see what

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I do. 
From a printing things out. 

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I'll show them the stuff like AA
and they're not open to trying 

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to gaming, so I think that's a 
good way of doing that. 

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Can watch your pretty well hand.
In hand we've off. 

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Definitely. 
Yeah I think that's that's 

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definitely good that way nice. 
I've got quite a few things and 

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I have to be honest and see but 
I don't have many things. 

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We fought the key of all 
aurageyser combo started going 

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to recently appointed for it 
again at a key party but it came

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at a good Bunch. 
Most other guys are no outside. 

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The hard work called guys before
take a at the Savoy them. 

450
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,500
Yeah. 
Really. 

451
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:39,100
Really avoid them and I don't 
know it just Used to bring you 

452
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,900
an aggressive sided. 
People can competitions agree, 

453
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:49,200
but you still want from me. 
But I've seen some awful things 

454
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,100
with for occasional, be, some 
guiding very aggressive towards 

455
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:54,000
others. 
As in people, keep in 

456
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000
competitions, I've seen 
organizers, cheating 

457
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,600
competitions, have seen all 
these kind of things, but it's 

458
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,100
not a point. 
So I tend to avoid that sided 

459
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,100
queers. 
Yeah, I find that most of our 

460
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,000
systems bottle. 
Take Epic. 

461
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:12,500
Ball action, even all these can 
systems even so you can be 

462
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:15,400
competitive. 
Most of the guys are pretty 

463
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,500
sound. 
Yeah. 

464
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:20,200
Really we say and yeah, so yeah,
it's still a stick to the games 

465
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,500
like that, but I'm all fat 
people that are fun be. 

466
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:31,400
So I'm going to try to hammer 
you and so, I was putting their 

467
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,300
ball last night. 
Uh, no. 

468
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,200
Boyhood the Bible with setting 
up a new. 

469
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,300
We going to Club as some of the 
guys. 

470
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,100
Guys are going to quit one or 
two games. 

471
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:43,900
So as I said well what's sure 
some of the guys give her a 

472
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:46,200
couple of we practice games 
going to help out. 

473
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,100
So I've been doing that but I 
felt really bad because we've 

474
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:55,700
been teaching them and about 
them for now I don't want to 

475
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,200
school and teach you how to play
the game. 

476
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:03,000
You have to think what you're 
doing but it is but there is no,

477
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,900
is that it was great. 
Kendall is no path. 

478
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:12,200
Fiona Burt over, half an hour, 
laughs, everything that was 

479
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,400
going on. 
And that says, the community in 

480
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,700
the game is especially needed. 
And it sorts of stimuli epic 

481
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,600
battle, take a lot of them ones 
to do. 

482
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:22,900
It's a great sense of community 
in that. 

483
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:25,700
Say to think so, absolutely, 
absolutely. 

484
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:29,300
Now you talked about your 
printers so that means you must 

485
00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:31,700
and you talked about like 
selling, you know, your 

486
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:33,600
Miniatures and that kind of 
thing that you producing. 

487
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,300
So let's talk about your 
business and talk about your 

488
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Your webshop and that kind of 
thing. 

489
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:45,200
Yeah. 
Well, okay, so I've got a 

490
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,300
printer. 
One print that I was speaking to

491
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:51,900
the wife last night when I first
started out in print button on 

492
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:55,500
like big businesses but I've got
a couple of grand or thousands 

493
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:58,600
of pounds and moderate. 
So it's a, I started with 200 

494
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,400
pounds. 
Yeah, yeah, 200 quid. 

495
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,100
I bought a secondhand 
refurbished end of three and a 

496
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:10,300
couple of screws or ple And I 
was planting stuff at home to 

497
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:16,900
sort, but some bits and pieces. 
And I'm the kinda guy like, to 

498
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:19,500
be honest, and upfront with 
everything I'm doing, whether 

499
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:23,200
it's 3D printing, or whatever 
businesses have been involved in

500
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,400
before, and I just dissing, you 
know what, I'm going to start to

501
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,300
be business. 
Some of my friends at last, 

502
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:33,200
we've seen a repentant and I 
stumbled across bottle take with

503
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,300
a steel Warriors Studio stuff, 
but she suddenly causing And I 

504
00:32:39,308 --> 00:32:42,200
just approached him and see, I'd
like to sell some of this in the

505
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,200
UK and it's a, yeah, give me a 
commission commission, based 

506
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,100
thing. 
And that was that what a couple 

507
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:54,100
more printers within a month. 
I was doing it for about nine 

508
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:57,100
months before I got my first 
raising printers because it was 

509
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:02,900
all just as the sexual scenery. 
And then I just got to do my 

510
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:05,400
shed. 
I've got a 16 foot by 8 foot 

511
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,700
shade and I just got it out. 
Put my planners are near and to 

512
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:14,300
started printing things. 
All right so and it's just grew 

513
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:18,700
bit by bit quite enjoy it, but I
it's been so sort of thing but 

514
00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:21,500
it is quite enjoyable, that's 
good, man, that's great. 

515
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,100
So where should people find you 
made? 

516
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,000
If they want to, if they don't 
have a look at your web store 

517
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,200
and they're kind of thing where 
we're this. 

518
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,400
Yeah, I saw meet you many's Yuki
Really should say may. 

519
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,200
I don't know the full address 
just now, but maybe many of you 

520
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:42,700
key Either on Facebook or what 
the website, there I do. 

521
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:44,600
What's this stuff I do? 
What? 

522
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:48,500
I don't do. 25 mil skill yet, 
right? 

523
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,600
It's all 46, milk to 10 mL or 1,
Master, things like that. 

524
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,400
And we're looking at doing 
space, Hulk mod, s. 

525
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:05,900
So, So as a LV 47 or 24/7, 
they've got a lot of this stuff 

526
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,600
I'm looking at doing days two 
hours. 

527
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,500
I've met a guy who is willing to
let me do his broad ball 

528
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:15,600
Miniatures, so I'm looking at 
doing that. 

529
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,800
So that's a skill up. 
Most of the stuff I do is 

530
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,300
Battle, take an epic for and one
master and I do them all the 

531
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:26,199
time. 
Again it's your Gustav. 

532
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,199
I'm actually putting like I 
said, let's start a full before 

533
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,000
diorama for battle. 
Take just now. 

534
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:35,300
So I'm building a shield more 
Cotton Bowl for later on the 

535
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,400
edge of the board, putting all 
the scenery in it, so yeah. 

536
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,199
Also, make it work, it's all 
good. 

537
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,300
I quite enjoy it again. 
And the good thing is is I don't

538
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:50,199
charge for time by the way, what
if people will be surprised that

539
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,699
this people with a recharge, for
taming the prince? 

540
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,600
I don't charge for time because 
I'm a hobbyist and I want 

541
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,300
scenery, but I know what it's 
like not be able to afford that.

542
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:03,300
Yeah. 
All right. 

543
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:07,800
Can some great seen earlier and 
but being 60 quid full of old 

544
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,100
them but just kind of do it, 
that's what I don't expect, 

545
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:15,200
other people to do it and if I 
can always bring in a cup of 

546
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,600
Excellence for people to have a 
move because of hobbyists seem 

547
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,600
as myself. 
So again, if you're short on, 

548
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,700
will be back in was a guy came 
to me recently. 

549
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:26,700
As you know, is what if we epic 
reason audio? 

550
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:31,600
So one must always Wadi had some
models going spill over the 

551
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,300
customers. 
So I said, normal people plenty 

552
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:38,500
some more, and that just forming
some water, I'm not going to 

553
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,900
make money, it's just like to 
help remove your name, your own 

554
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:44,500
bloody great, get your watiam or
you go there. 

555
00:35:44,500 --> 00:36:01,500
Something, 
I'm really happy that it's 

556
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:04,600
really going well for you. 
I've and on wish you all the 

557
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,600
success in the future between 
23, mate. 

558
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,100
I hope my team in its UK really 
lifts off, and we're going to 

559
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,700
leave links in the show notes. 
People can check it out. 

560
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:16,400
I know you got a new website 
under construction and, you 

561
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,600
know, adding photos and that 
kind of thing to it. 

562
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,600
So people can find you there. 
If they go to the show notes and

563
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,600
they can check out your catalog 
of all the different kinds of 

564
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,100
six people, 20 ml, and scenery 
products. 

565
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,600
You've got there available and 
hopefully they'll do the right 

566
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,700
thing and purchase Some stuff 
off you, mate. 

567
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Yeah, what she said, helps me, 
whatever. 

568
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,100
It's as simple as that. 
You're not in business to make a

569
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:45,500
war and a hobby and things being
a good thing. 

570
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,700
So what jet business up front? 
So it's all good like that. 

571
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,500
So yeah, come on, speak to me. 
What's that? 

572
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:57,400
Me speak to me again? 
I'll wait to speak to the guys 

573
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,200
who are buying the stuff. 
I'm always up front with folks 

574
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,500
and Marissa. 
So, thanks very much. 

575
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,900
Having me back to meet you. 
My it's been wonderful to be 

576
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:07,800
Dave, it's been really good in 
life. 

577
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,100
I've been a customer of yours 
like buying some bits and pieces

578
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:12,100
of my epic stuff. 
So I can definitely vouch for 

579
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,000
you to say to it. 
Legit guy or a good guy and 

580
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,300
doing it all for the right 
reasons. 

581
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:18,000
So, thanks again. 
Maybe help me out mate. 

582
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,900
It's been brilliant. 
Excellent. 

583
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,400
And thank you. 
Well, what you call? 

584
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,600
And I'm going to head off, mate.
Take care. 

585
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,900
Thanks again David all the best,
see you mate. 

586
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:55,600
Happy New Year, everyone. 
It's GJ with another call of the

587
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:02,300
crown painting challenge update.
I am very glad to report that we

588
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:08,100
have had a lot of response, very
many, pretty pictures, despite 

589
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:11,000
the December month. 
We did have some people who 

590
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,800
unfortunately had to either take
a mulligan or even drop out all 

591
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,800
together for different reasons 
but despite Quite a few 

592
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,900
casualties. 
The painting challenge is 

593
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:30,200
continuing as strong as ever. 
I think I can confidently. 

594
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,600
Say we have in. 
Maybe there's still some 

595
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,500
stragglers. 
What? 

596
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:38,100
I'm recording. 
This. 

597
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:42,700
I don't think I've heard from 
everybody yet, but we have a 

598
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:47,500
total of at the moment. 
Twenty thousand seven hundred 

599
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:50,700
and seventy two and a half 
points. 

600
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:57,100
So this month, which is even 
more than in November, I think 

601
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,200
that's because a lot of people 
had to take a mulligan in 

602
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,300
November because of illness the 
flu going around. 

603
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:11,600
However, it's very encouraging 
to see that even in December 

604
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,100
with Christmas and with all 
kinds of family, obligations and

605
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:17,600
other stuff that takes away, 
time from the hobby, would not 

606
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,200
to say that it's bad or 
something. 

607
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:27,300
But well, you know, how it goes 
life can sometimes get in the 

608
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:35,400
way of doing a hobby stuff and 
despite all that, we have more 

609
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,400
points painted this month. 
And then we had last month or I 

610
00:39:40,408 --> 00:39:43,200
should say more points painted 
last month that we had the 

611
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:49,500
previous month we have now in 
total over sixty three and a 

612
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:52,700
half thousand points that have 
been submitted. 

613
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:56,300
And we are not even halfway 
through the challenge. 

614
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,900
So I've already had people 
asking me if it was, all right, 

615
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:06,200
if they added some more stuff to
what they had originally 

616
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,900
pledged, Awesome. 
People that said, I might have 

617
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:14,700
to turn down a little bit or 
otherwise I might not make it. 

618
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,200
Well, that's all right. 
I think it will even out in the 

619
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,000
end. 
I believe it was estimated that 

620
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:27,500
we had around 160,000 points, 
pledged at the beginning of the 

621
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:30,600
challenge. 
So if that's true, then we are 

622
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,500
still very much on schedule 
despite having to say goodbye 

623
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,700
to. 
I Think about it doesn't 

624
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:45,800
participants at the moment. 
We have some very lovely 

625
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,800
painting pictures that that have
been submitted. 

626
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:54,500
By the time you will hear this, 
this will be on my blog. 

627
00:40:54,500 --> 00:41:01,000
If you go to GJ's Workshop, dot 
wordpress.com, it will be the 

628
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:06,500
topmost post there, the call of 
the crown December update there,

629
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:10,900
you will see all the pretty 
pictures and I have to say it is

630
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:15,700
a joy to organize this. 
Challenge, just to see how 

631
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:22,100
committed people are to 
finishing their pledges to, to 

632
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,900
make it work, despite maybe 
having some things get in the 

633
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,100
way, or maybe things not turning
out, the way they planned. 

634
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:35,200
And I have to say the quality of
the stuff that submitted is, is 

635
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,900
really amazing. 
I'm looking at, for example, a 

636
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:45,300
unit of arches returning arches 
Painted by Bobby Patterson. 

637
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:52,900
Very nice crisp, blue and yellow
with a nice black contrast in. 

638
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:59,600
There, we have some beautiful 
Empire, help dies command from 

639
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:04,000
Blue in VT. 
I'm just going to pick out some 

640
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,600
entries at random, then I'm 
going to call out clearing 

641
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,200
Griffith. 
He is doing Orcs and goblins and

642
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,700
skaven this Monte Payne. 
It's um since cave and some 

643
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:19,000
rats, giant rats, red ogres cup 
of weapon teams. 

644
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,500
The very nice purple and greens 
color scheme. 

645
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:27,700
Their works really well. 
With skaven covering fire. 

646
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:31,800
That painting chaos dwarfs 
painting, AC submitted the unit 

647
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,200
of blunderbuss dwarves very high
quality of painting. 

648
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,800
We have what we have so much, 
great stuff. 

649
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,000
I really can't go through them 
all. 

650
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Couple of Empire cannons by 
Gordon, ins the fourth edition, 

651
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,600
hell Blossom, Vale gun. 
I've always liked that one. 

652
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,100
It is only I don't have the 
model but I do have that 

653
00:42:56,500 --> 00:43:00,500
Leonardo da Vinci standing on 
the on the cannonballs. 

654
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,500
He's a very nice model. 
I think I'm just going to use 

655
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:10,500
him as Leonardo. 
That me rightly, a no for the 

656
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:14,000
dogs of war. 
We have Heinrich learned 

657
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,400
back-painted a whopping 1705 
points, but it's mostly chaos 

658
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,400
and dragon ogres. 
So that's let me go into your 

659
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,200
real quick. 13 models, five 
chaos nights, I see skill. 

660
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,600
I see a general on a horse. 
I think that's a called hell 

661
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,500
Bruns there. 
And yeah, like I said, a couple 

662
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:44,000
of dragon Olga's. 
So we have a That, that rakes on

663
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,000
the points really quickly, I'm 
going to contrast that to 

664
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,700
header. 
Roy, who said he was not 

665
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:53,000
feeling. 
Well, I might not even finish 

666
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,800
this month's challenge, but he 
did submit a loan Goblin 

667
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,200
champion at 38 points, not going
to count the points here but it 

668
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600
is a very beautiful paint job is
goddess. 

669
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,500
Snotty nose. 
What I believe that's all on a 

670
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:15,000
Model but it is mated to a 
standard that I could not even 

671
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,700
dream to achieve. 
So even if you are like me and 

672
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:23,800
you just going quality of 
quantity than I think, just 

673
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,700
looking at these pictures will 
be really inspiring. 

674
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,000
We have a couple more I wanted 
to shout out. 

675
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,100
We have Joseph Justice who 
submitted a few units of dark 

676
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:41,800
elves, a sorcerer and unit of 
crossbowmen and of Swordsmen. 

677
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,200
We have zero quick Marcel 
muscle. 

678
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:53,100
You're from Germany with a group
of dwarf, Miners and dwarf 

679
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:55,500
crossbowmen. 
He wrote a nice little story 

680
00:44:55,500 --> 00:45:01,300
about them, taking back their 
ancestral whole, I believe it 

681
00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:02,900
us. 
It's been a while since I read 

682
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:04,400
it. 
So sorry myself, I don't do 

683
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,500
represent your writings 
correctly here. 

684
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:12,000
You can go see for yourself. 
Of course, Mark Muirfield from 

685
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,500
The back to the have a Blog with
a whole bunch of lizard, man. 

686
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,700
He has been putting out a lot of
models both quality wise and 

687
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:26,300
quantity wise and there's some 
people have just submitted a 

688
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:30,200
single model, Maxwell can with 
the white dwarf, problem 

689
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,000
brindle, very nice model. 
The one where he is holding his 

690
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,800
helmet upside down and as beer, 
foaming out of it. 

691
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:45,600
Let's see here, I got a couple 
of very Black Orcs with one of 

692
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,200
them has a. 
I think the Blackhawk General It

693
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,500
Is by Rick Beyond. 
Oh, he's got a sword painted in 

694
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:57,400
metallic metals which contrasts 
really well with the metallic 

695
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,500
metals on the other axis. 
And the armor I have to say that

696
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:05,600
is going to be a magic sword. 
I don't know how else you can 

697
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,600
feel that. 
We have rulon's a friend of mine

698
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,000
from here from the The 
Netherlands with a chaos 

699
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,200
sorcerer, a cinch sorcerer by 
the looks of it. 

700
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,100
What else a normal sport? 
A lot of chaos. 

701
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:29,000
We have some people who added 
some more stuff to their 

702
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,700
December pledge. 
For example, we had Steve Quinn,

703
00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:36,800
who's doing wood elves. 
He submitted a group of War 

704
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,600
dances and then he said, well, I
had already planned on doing 

705
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,900
Orion for Worried. 
But he was so much fun to paint.

706
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:50,800
I squeezed him in in December 
and it is a beautiful model of 

707
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,500
course but also a very nice 
paint job going for the box out 

708
00:46:56,500 --> 00:47:00,800
there and definitely to a 
standards that that I would say 

709
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:07,400
is at least on par with what you
might expect in. 

710
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,100
Yeah, let's let's just say in 
the white dwarf and In other 

711
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:19,700
gaming magazines. 
So like I said I really want to 

712
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:23,900
shout out all of these but sadly
I can't. 

713
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:28,300
So I really have to invite you 
to go over to the website, GJ's 

714
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:33,400
Workshop, dot wordpress.com, you
will find all of these pictures 

715
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,600
there and everything that people
wrote about them. 

716
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,300
If people did run some to write 
about them, not everybody is 

717
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:42,200
writer. 
I enjoy right. 

718
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,200
My own story and making it a 
continuous story. 

719
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,100
I did it for the Gathering of 
Mighty painters challenge as 

720
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:55,000
well, so my, my baseman feels 
weird shouting on myself but I'm

721
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,900
going to do it anyway. 
My Beast Man is a, my general, 

722
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:03,500
which I painted in the first 
month, he's just going to track 

723
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:07,600
around, visit. 
All those legendary, beastmen 

724
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,800
heroes, and that gives me an 
excuse to paint all those 

725
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,900
special. 
Characters. 

726
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:16,800
I'm not sure if I mentioned that
before, but if I have, I'm sorry

727
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,600
about the double information 
here. 

728
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,600
So yeah, I like writing, I like 
writing up stories and some 

729
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,100
people just say, well, this is 
what I painted and others say, 

730
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:31,300
this is what I painted and this 
is what, what happened during 

731
00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:34,400
the painting, or this is what I 
bumped into. 

732
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,800
This is what went. 
Well and some people just 

733
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,100
submitted a photo and a points 
value and what it's all good. 

734
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:47,500
It's Is what you want. 
I am also I've been thinking 

735
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:51,000
about putting this out there or 
not, but at the start of the 

736
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:57,400
challenge I said everybody gets 
one Mulligan and I think for an 

737
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,100
eight-month challenge one, 
Mulligan that might be a bit too

738
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:04,200
harsh. 
So some people have already 

739
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,100
said, oh I'm sorry I have to 
drop out. 

740
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:09,700
I wanted to stay in but I 
already used my Mulligan and now

741
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:13,300
I have to use another one. 
I'm not going to Be too strict 

742
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:16,100
on that. 
So I will always ask you, if you

743
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:19,700
are saying, I want to drop out, 
is this really what you want or 

744
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:24,700
is this just because of the 
rules because in that case I 

745
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:29,900
will happily bend the rules a 
little bit to keep you aboard. 

746
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:37,000
The goal of this challenge is to
slay, the gray to get rid of 

747
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,500
your pile of shame or at least 
to reduce it a little bit and 

748
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:47,100
Also to have fun doing so and to
be inspired by others and also 

749
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:54,900
to inspire others by your work. 
I myself, I'm really happy about

750
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,400
the way this challenge is going.
It does a lot of work and I 

751
00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:04,900
don't think that this is 
something that I want to do 

752
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:10,100
every year but organizing a 
challenge like this is very 

753
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:12,200
rewarding more so than I had 
expected. 

754
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:18,700
Expected when I started it. 
So this is me saying a big thank

755
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:23,300
you to everybody who has 
participated so far, everybody 

756
00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:27,500
who is still in the challenge 
and also everybody who had to 

757
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:31,500
drop out for, but whatever 
reason, it might have been. 

758
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:39,600
I am really grateful to all of 
you to response and basically 

759
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,700
just do the way that this is 
going. 

760
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:45,800
And I see On Facebook and on, on
the crown of command Discord, I 

761
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,700
see people encouraging each 
other, don't remember who it 

762
00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:54,000
was. 
But somebody said I might have 

763
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,500
to drop out or I might not be 
able to submit something. 

764
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:01,700
And then somebody else said, 
well I just made a character and

765
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:05,700
then you'll get there and then 
you can paint all the units. 

766
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:09,700
When you have two little bit 
more time, these little tips and

767
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:14,300
tricks, some people have made 
complete schedules of what they 

768
00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:18,100
want to paint each month. 
If that's something that can 

769
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:22,700
help you, then then go for it. 
And also don't hesitate to ask 

770
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:29,200
other people for advice. 
I know that the pressure of a 

771
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,500
challenge can be quite helpful, 
but it can also be a little bit 

772
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:37,900
daunting. 
And it should remain fun, and it

773
00:51:37,900 --> 00:51:42,200
should remain something that you
that will help you. 

774
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:48,100
You enjoy painting about help 
you get your units done, get 

775
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:52,400
them on the table, for whatever 
you want to go play at this 

776
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,900
summer. 
Thank you everybody for 

777
00:51:55,900 --> 00:52:01,000
listening and I will see you 
again next month with another 

778
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,100
update. 
When we are at the halfway point

779
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:07,800
of the goal of the crown. 
In addition to